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thomasian
March 14th, 2006, 08:55 AM
nice pics... ;)


gosh.. MoA is so plain white... it will get dirty soon...

MoA's mettalic-silver-white alubond cladding is actually easy to clean, the only problem will be the painted parts of MoA which, thank God, is not white, except for that footbridge which is white and painted.

anyways, wheres the footbridge connected??

The footbridge connects the Entertainment Mall of MoA to PRA Esplanade, crossing Seaside blvd.

3cr
March 14th, 2006, 08:56 AM
^ No prob ate Mhe-Ann. May story pa nga yung pagpunta ko sa MoA, kasi sobrang feeling depressed na ako that Sunday kaya naisip ko na pumunta na lang kami sa Esplanade para makapagpahangin naman ako sa tabing-dagat, masama talaga kasi ang pakiramdam ko noon dahil nga ang dami-dami kong problema, tapos parents ko pa ang cause nung halos lahat ng problema ko nung time na yun. Kaya medyo madilim na nung nakapag-take ako ng MoA pics kasi kinailangan ko muna munang magpalipas ng sama ng loob sa seawall at manood ng sunset, kaya nung medyo okay na feeling ko, dun ako kumuha ng pics. :( Pagkatapos nun, binuhos ko na lang sa pagkain ang lahat ng sama ng loob ko, halos kalahati nung meat-lovers pizza sa Pizza Hut @ Blue Wave yung nakain ko. Wala naman kasi akong nakakausap eh, kaya kung saan-saan ko na lang ibinubuhos ang sama ng loob ko. :cry:

Aaron, Bakit di mo tinawagan si Fhoy? Eh di sana may nakasama ka di ba! :)

normandb
March 14th, 2006, 09:00 AM
anyways, wheres the footbridge connected??


sa esplanade pare..parang ordinary footbridge lang sya kasi they are expecting heavy traffic in that area once maging operational na..kaya may footbridge para di na tatawid sa kalsada..

Dvorak
March 14th, 2006, 09:14 AM
sana nilagyan nila nang escalator paakyat nang footbridge.. kasi ang mangyayari dyan.. tatamarin lang yung mga tao na umakyat.. tatawid na lang don sa baba..

thomasian
March 14th, 2006, 09:23 AM
Yeah, wala ngang escalators. It also looks like there's even no provisions for the installation of one.

Mukha ngang this will be a case of the pedestrians using the underpass (no, no the underground thingy but "under the overpass" :D ) to cross the road.

Delikado pa naman yung Seaside blvd. kasi ginagamit yun na drag racing venue dahil nga sobrang straight nung seaside stretch niya saka malapad pa siya. That means maraming matutuwa na magpatakbo dun ng mabilis pag open na ang MoA so delikado nga unless they'll be imposing some speed limits.

_zner_
March 14th, 2006, 09:25 AM
^^ i hope the guards would do something about it..

c0kelitr0
March 14th, 2006, 09:48 AM
Aaron, Bakit di mo tinawagan si Fhoy? Eh di sana may nakasama ka di ba! :)

napag usapan na namin yan ni Aaron sa YM!

normandb
March 14th, 2006, 10:03 AM
sana nilagyan nila nang escalator paakyat nang footbridge.. kasi ang mangyayari dyan.. tatamarin lang yung mga tao na umakyat.. tatawid na lang don sa baba..

buti pa yong mga footbridge sa Las Piñas merog mga escalators..

JAMAICUS
March 14th, 2006, 10:15 AM
Within that blue circular lobby, is that a chandelier?

thomasian
March 14th, 2006, 10:31 AM
^^ Nope, there's none. Siguro yung lightpost yung sinasabi mong chandelier. :D Pero within the superbowl (that's how they labeled that blue thingy in the renderings) I saw the sign "Movietime" pero it's not visible in the pics. They also have floodlights (focused on the ceiling) lining the circumference of the superbowl.


napag usapan na namin yan ni Aaron sa YM!

So sigurado nang tayo ang magka-cut ng ribbon sa opening ha. :jk: :D

normandb
March 14th, 2006, 10:59 AM
^^ pwede ba kami magdala ng champagne tapos pokpok namin sa ulo nyo :D kasabay ng pag cut ng ribbon

JAMAICUS
March 14th, 2006, 11:02 AM
May sumubok bang pumasok at tingnan ang loob? I hope somebody broke the law and took pictures of the interior :) :)

_zner_
March 14th, 2006, 11:17 AM
^^ haha.. pede ring magpretend na nagwowork ka dun.. hehe

MyNameIsJonathan
March 15th, 2006, 02:28 AM
haha talaga. mahigpit ba ang security sa MoA?

_zner_
March 15th, 2006, 11:55 AM
eist, sabi ng friend ko, may bumagsak daw na concrete or glass sa gitna ng moa... he's dad works there btw... archi yung dad nya.. kaya sabi ng dad nya, advice nya daw kami wag daw dun pumunta pag holidays, weekends, or basta maraming tao for our safety daw...

thomasian
March 15th, 2006, 12:36 PM
^ Ows, nakakatakot naman yan.

Anyway...

03.05.06 - Last installment of pics

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/MoA_000_0024.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/MoA_000_0023.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/MoA_000_0022.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/MoA_000_0021.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/MoA_000_0020.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/MoA_000_0019.jpg

bustero
March 16th, 2006, 04:30 AM
This is true, there is an ongoing engineering audit on the structure of MOA. This is a very big problem for them. They're trying to keep it as muzzled as possible, baka kumalat ang tsismis and knowing the public they will not assess this very intelligently. Apparently major structural augmentation is on going hence the delay.

I'm sure though that with SM they will make sure it will be perfectly fine, hindi iyan magtitipid, it will only cost a few million dollars, which is nothing for a company which made 140 million $ last year, ther reputation is much more important than saving a few million dollars with untold repurcussions.


excerpt from Manila Standard - February 27, 2006
> >>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>> >> > Cracks endanger Pasay's Mall of Asia
> >>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>> >> > THE Mall of Asia at the reclamation area in Pasay City is
> >>>>>> mysteriously
> >>>>>> >> > vibrating and city engineers fear that it may collapse
because
> >>>>>> of huge
> >>>>>> >> > cracks underneath the structure.
> >>>>>> >> > The city hall's engineering department inspected the mall
over
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> >> > weekend to determine the source of vibration and city
engineer
> >>>>>> Edwin
> >>>>>> >> > Jabarubyas warned that the cracks may affect the stability
of
> >>>>>> the entire
> >>>>>> >> > building.
> >>>>>> >> > The Mall of Asia is scheduled to be opened on March 3 but
the
> >>>>>> city hall
> >>>>>> >> > decided to postpone the opening until the vibrations are
fixed
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> >> > cracks are repaired by its contractors.
> >>>>>> >> > A multimillion-peso project, owned by SM Malls owner Henry
Sy,
> >>>>>> it has
> >>>>>> >> > several contractors like DSL Construction Corp., Malaysian
> >>>>>> Contractor
> >>>>>> >> > and two other foreign builders.
> >>>>>> >> > The engineering team that inspected the area said the
cracks
> >>>>>> underneath
> >>>>>> >> > the mall were caused by the continuous digging which
affected
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> >> > reclaimed land.
> >>>>>> >> > The vibration of the mall is definitely due to the cracks
> >>>>>> underneath,
> >>>>>> >> > the Pasay City engineering team said.
> >>>>>> >> > The cracks are located in front of the building along C-5
Road.
> >>>>>> One
> >>>>>> >> > crack measures around 5 to 10 meters and the other one 3
> >>>>>> meters.
> >>>>>> >> > The engineering team said that if the cracks deteriorate,
it
> >>>>>> could cause
> >>>>>> >> > the building to collapse.
> >>>>>> >> > Jabarubyas recommended the immediate repair of the
reclamation
> >>>>>> area and
> >>>>>> >> > suspended the March 3 inauguration of the mall until
another
> >>>>>> inspection
> >>>>>> >> > is conducted that will attest the safety of the mall to
> >>>>>> operate.
> >>>>>> >> > Mall of Asia is considered the largest mall in Asia and the
> >>>>>> city
> >>>>>> >> > engineer said it is very important that it be safe before
it is
> >>>>>> opened
> >>>>>> >> > to the public.
> >>>>>> >> > Mall of Asia originally occupied more than 6,000 sqm of
> >>>>>> reclaimed land
> >>>>>> >> > in Pasay City but another 3.5 hectares was added.

onyx88
March 16th, 2006, 07:19 AM
hello everyone!!

im planning to franchise a coffee shop in SM mall of asia. would you think it will still be wise to invest in that mall considering that there are rumors about its stability?

daks2003
March 16th, 2006, 07:37 AM
rumors lang yan... :)

hello everyone!!

im planning to franchise a coffee shop in SM mall of asia. would you think it will still be wise to invest in that mall considering that there are rumors about its stability?

_zner_
March 16th, 2006, 08:42 AM
sayang ang MoA kung hindi nila maayos yung prob dun... baka ipasara nalang toh... wag naman sana...

3cr
March 16th, 2006, 09:24 AM
hello everyone!! im planning to franchise a coffee shop in SM mall of asia. would you think it will still be wise to invest in that mall considering that there are rumors about its stability? SM MOA should be OK once fixed since it's not a highrise structure. Yan talaga ang sakit ng mga large structures built on reclaimed area so just like any other investment there is always a risk involved though I think it will be minute in MOA's case. Tama si Bustero, they will spend the money to fix it than take the risk after all what's a couple of million when they have already invested as well as can earn so much more with a safe MOA.

This is true, there is an ongoing engineering audit on the structure of MOA. This is a very big problem for them. They're trying to keep it as muzzled as possible, baka kumalat ang tsismis and knowing the public they will not assess this very intelligently. Apparently major structural augmentation is on going hence the delay.

I'm sure though that with SM they will make sure it will be perfectly fine, hindi iyan magtitipid, it will only cost a few million dollars, which is nothing for a company which made 140 million $ last year, ther reputation is much more important than saving a few million dollars with untold repurcussions.

onyx88
March 16th, 2006, 09:33 AM
thanx guys!!!

just continue updating us regarding the mall.

actually, up to now, no response from the mall's leasing department.

kennethologist
March 16th, 2006, 01:20 PM
SM MOA should be OK once fixed since it's not a highrise structure. Yan talaga ang sakit ng mga large structures built on reclaimed area so just like any other investment there is always a risk involved though I think it will be minute in MOA's case. Tama si Bustero, they will spend the money to fix it than take the risk after all what's a couple of million when they have already invested as well as can earn so much more with a safe MOA.

actually may isang airport sa japan built on recclaimed land with the same fate katulad ng sa MoA... what they did was put hydraulics sa ilalim ng structure to keep the stucture leveled. maybe they could do that sa MoA.

to date this is the second SM mall na nagkaroon ng issues sa integrity ng structure niya.. first was ung SM San Lazaro w/c had a similar design sa MoA.

OtAkAw
March 16th, 2006, 05:01 PM
^^Well, we can only hope that this problem is not going to turn bigger and bigger since we've all been waiting for so many years for this mall!!!

daks2003
March 16th, 2006, 07:34 PM
first lease mo ba to sa SM? kelangan kulitin mo sila at dapat persistent ka...sa pagkakaalam ko paspasan din ang construction ng mga tenants ngayon... :)

thanx guys!!!

just continue updating us regarding the mall.

actually, up to now, no response from the mall's leasing department.

JustHorace
March 17th, 2006, 02:07 AM
One E-com Center unveiled

The Philippine STAR 03/17/2006

The groundbreaking ceremony for OneE-comCenter was recently held at the SM Central Business Park last March 8.

The groundbreaking ceremony was attended by SM Investments Corp.’s first executive VP Hans Sy, SM Investment vice chairman Henry Sy Jr., Pasay City Mayor Hon. Wenceslao Trinidad, representatives and children of Senator Ramon Revilla Sr. Strike Revilla, who is the director of Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office, and Philippine Reclamation Authority head executive assistant Andrea Bautista, and CEO/general manager Silvestre Bello III, and SM Investments Corp.’s president Jess Lucas. This new project is right next door to the 381,000-square meter Mall of Asia which happens to be the biggest shopping mall of the SM Group and was considered as the centerpiece of the SM Central Business Park.

The E-comCenter, which is scheduled for completion by July 2007 is a 94,000 square meter OneE-com Center, a 10-story ecommerce building that was designed by international firm Arquitectonica and Architect Felix Lim. OneE-com Center will provide cutting edge facilities to meet the growing needs of technology-based companies and will be more than just a call center facility plus it will have a total of 67,900 square meters available for lease. More than that is that it offers the best of both worlds – the highly accessible location with an advanced telecommunications structure that is ideal for 24/7 operations and a refreshing work environment.

Owing to its strategic location is the One-EcomCenter’s ability to tap the grade A market and its being right across the SM corporate headquarters, which is already home to US-based Teletech. And like Teletech, tenants of this E-comCenter will also enjoy tax incentives with an application with the Philippine Economic Zone Authority and companies that will locate at OneE-comCenter will be entitled to investment perks such as a four or six-year income tax holiday and duty-free importation of equipment and raw materials.

Aside from this project, SMIC will also break ground on a 46,000-square meter exhibition and convention center by this month which is the MAITRADE Expo and Convention Center which will be the country’s first privately-run exhibition and convention center as it is expected to cost P900 million. It envisioned to become a favored venue for major conferences and trade exhibits, as well as for other international and local events.

Other developments being planned include corporate headquarters for one or two conglomerates, hotels, office, and residential clusters, a coliseum for sporting events and entertainment shows as well as a ferry terminal.

OneE-comCenter, Maitrade Expo and Convention Center, and the Mall of Asia are just a prelude to what the SM Central Business Park will become in the future. And it is expected that over the long term, the SM Central Business Park will emerge as the foremost and only central business district (CBD) in the country by the bay, integrating business park facilities with entertainment shows as well as a ferry terminal.

"The SM Central Business Park project is a long-term commitment for creating urban centers in the Manila Bay Area that will stand side by side with the notable waterfront business districts of Asia," says Sy adding that this is where people will converge and have a sense of community.

Edmundtanso
March 17th, 2006, 06:12 AM
cool.....glad the SM group got arquitectinica to design this e-com center....would love to see a rendering of it.

JustHorace
March 17th, 2006, 06:31 AM
^^There's a rendering on today's Philppine Star

Dvorak
March 17th, 2006, 06:52 AM
I hope they hold it in SM MOA...

Manila to host World 9-Ball Championships

The Philippine Star 03/17/2006

The world’s finest cue masters, led by reigning champion Wu Chia Ching, bring their act to Manila in November as they clash with the country’s best billiard players, led by 1999 titlist Efren "Bata" Reyes, in the World 9-Ball Championships.

Top officials of Matchroom Sport and ESPN Star Sports executives are expected to arrive here next week to meet with their local counterparts and finalize details of the championship, a surefire hit in a country blessed with so many talents on the green felt table.

They include Reyes, a byword in pool circles here and abroad whose 1999 conquest paved the way for the emergence of billiards as one of the most popular sports in the land, Alex Pagulayan, winner of the event in 2004, former world No. 1 Francisco "Django" Bustamante and fast-rising stars Marlon Manalo and Dennis Orcollo.

The foreign challenge is expected to be led by Wu, the 16-year-old wonder who won last year in Taiwan, host of the annual event the last two years, and the likes of Mika Immonen, Ralf Souquet, Johnny Archer, Steve Davis and Earl Strickland along with the emerging stars from Taiwan, Japan and Korea.

Support to the event is expected to come in handy with the country’s top companies, such as San Miguel and PLDT, likely to come in full force to ensure the successful staging of this event.

ESPN Star Sports, the worldwide leader in sports, will serve as host broadcaster, according to AzBilliards.com.

The total prize money is expected to surpass the previous pot of $350,000 with Wu taking home the top $75,000 purse.

No venue has been mentioned although sources said among those being considered are the Philippine International Convention Center, the World Trade Center and the SM Mall of Asia.

Chris2pher
March 17th, 2006, 07:27 AM
If those rumors of instability around that area of the reclaimed land were indeed true, it doesn't seem sound to still have that 10-story structure build up.

thomasian
March 17th, 2006, 07:34 AM
^^ I think they've learned from their mistakes and will be building this one better.
Reclaimed land is not that bad, many cities around the world have built cities and even supertalls on reclaimed land.

JAMAICUS
March 17th, 2006, 09:08 AM
Who else have SM mall of Asia pics?

thomasian
March 17th, 2006, 09:14 AM
I saw some poster near MoA which says something like... "SM Hypermarket, now hiring...".

What if a forumer pretends to be an applicant just to be able to take pics inside MoA? :D

Sinjin P.
March 17th, 2006, 09:24 AM
^^ Who dares? :D

Francis20
March 17th, 2006, 09:46 AM
I saw some poster near MoA which says something like... "SM Hypermarket, now hiring...".

What if a forumer pretends to be an applicant just to be able to take pics inside MoA? :D

Why not? but what if we get hired?

onyx88
March 17th, 2006, 10:11 AM
daks2003,

if it will push through it will be my second. i have a cart in one of SM's new malls.


mbassy,

SM mall of asia seems like they are really facing some shortcomings while sm san lazaro's case was all plain rumors.

sm san lazaro used the POST TENSION DESIGN CONCEPT wherein slight movements or vibrations are its characteristics. this concept has been used in buildings, bridges, and flyovers.

_zner_
March 17th, 2006, 12:22 PM
Why not? but what if we get hired?


extra income, why not... haha..

OtAkAw
March 17th, 2006, 03:39 PM
Don't waste ur energy, let's just wait for its opening, it's not that far away...

The Cebuano Exultor
March 17th, 2006, 04:29 PM
SM Mall of Asia looks extremely tacky and hurriedly constructed. I was imagining it to be way better when it was still a proposal.

Things that look tacky:
1.) The red-colored [ASIA] sign with a yellow arc beneath it...
2.) That blue-colored decorative circular-skeleton

thomasian
March 18th, 2006, 02:59 AM
^^ I guess it would have been better if it was designed by Arquitectonica from scratch.

Sinjin P.
March 18th, 2006, 03:16 AM
^^ So, including the exteriors?

richpol
March 18th, 2006, 07:38 AM
honestly, i don't believe any of these rumours. The fact that there are lots of tenants already setting up inside the mall means that it is still safe. And i also can't believe that a two-storey building as massive as MOA would vibrate..

rustyboi
March 18th, 2006, 07:54 AM
SM Mall of Asia looks extremely tacky and hurriedly constructed. I was imagining it to be way better when it was still a proposal.

Things that look tacky:
1.) The red-colored [ASIA] sign with a yellow arc beneath it...
2.) That blue-colored decorative circular-skeleton

well, size doesn't matter. this mall could have been better. i think shoppers would still prefer going to a "high satisfaction rating" medium-sized mall than an "average satisfaction rating" super-sized mall.

for SMoA, i hope they'll make bawi on the interiors. this mall excites pinoy shoppers and is highly anticipated by SSC forumers too. :) let's hope for the best.

thomasian
March 18th, 2006, 08:04 AM
honestly, i don't believe any of these rumours. The fact that there are lots of tenants already setting up inside the mall means that it is still safe. And i also can't believe that a two-storey building as massive as MOA would vibrate..

If ever it's true, I think the affected buildings are the North Parking Building and the South Parking building since they are the only massively-multi-level buildings of MoA.

The Main Mall and the Entertainment Mall is most likely not affected (I hope) as richpol said because they only have two levels and no rooftop unlike the two parking buildings which has two mall-levels and four parking levels (3 levels plus the rooftop parking level)

JAMAICUS
March 18th, 2006, 10:12 AM
Will SM Mall of Asia have a garden park/area like greenbelt?

richard24
March 18th, 2006, 01:27 PM
^^ dunno... but it should have. :)

OtAkAw
March 18th, 2006, 02:55 PM
^^It definitely should have since we Metro Manila is very polluted, people would always look for a place that has clean air and beautiful surroundings, and plants and flowers do that justice.

rustyboi
March 18th, 2006, 04:09 PM
^^in addition to that, the Manila bay and sunset is already a big plus for shoppers.

_zner_
March 19th, 2006, 03:56 AM
its not yet to late for MoA to put greenery stuffs in the mall..

JAMAICUS
March 19th, 2006, 06:21 AM
so is that a no?

richard24
March 19th, 2006, 08:03 AM
^^ we havent seen whats inside... so we're still not sure,.. malay natin... may garden sa loob? oh san ka pa? :lol:

thomasian
March 19th, 2006, 12:37 PM
^ As far as I know, it doesn't have a garden inside, really.

But I do believe that the Timog Mall (the open space between the South Parking Building and the Main Mall) and the Hilaga Mall (the open space between the North Parking Building and the Main Mall) will have some greenery.

I'm not sure about West Drive though (the open space in-between the Entertainment Mall and the whole stretch of the three other buildings namely the South Parking Building, Main Mall, and North Parking Building) because it is a road. If ever there will be some greeneries there, it's most likely very minimal, but there could be more if the West Drive will become something like the MegaStrip of Megamall.

thomasian
March 20th, 2006, 08:44 AM
cool.....glad the SM group got arquitectinica to design this e-com center....would love to see a rendering of it.
^^There's a rendering on today's Philppine Star

Anyone with the newspaper to scan? It was dated March 17.

MarkiiBoi
March 20th, 2006, 09:44 AM
i dont know if this has been posted already... ;)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9275/mallofasia013ax.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1087/mallofasia020vt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

From Wikipedia..

rockwell baller
March 22nd, 2006, 02:20 AM
nice shots from wikipedia updated talaga sila!

ryanr
March 22nd, 2006, 02:24 AM
i wont be surprised if the person who wrote wikipedia's MOA page got their information from us (SSC).;)

_zner_
March 22nd, 2006, 04:14 AM
i love the lights..

JAMAICUS
March 22nd, 2006, 07:52 AM
Any new pics on those condos/apartments being built near SM MALL OF ASIA?

jbkayaker12
March 22nd, 2006, 12:32 PM
Feb 19,2006

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c363/flashlight_/Feb19052.jpg

:)

This kind of landscaping is not acceptable if you ask me. I don't know what standards SM has but this definitely is something worth fixing especially if this mall is their flagship development.

Pearl of the Orient Seas - The Philippines (http://community.webshots.com/user/jbkayaker12)

JustHorace
March 22nd, 2006, 02:50 PM
^^ There's none actually. Doon lang sa Asiaworld City.

OtAkAw
March 23rd, 2006, 04:56 AM
^^ I agree with you, I expected something that would definitely become great and not just good, the best and not just ok. This mall should be the best in the country since it sports the "BIGGEST" title!.

dancethingy
March 23rd, 2006, 05:48 AM
Its a testament to the kind of shitty development that comes out of their asses

Dueller23
March 23rd, 2006, 06:02 AM
Structural faults caused delay of Mall of Asia


By CAI U. ORDINARIO, The Manila Times Reporter

SM Prime Holdings Inc., the Philippines’ leading mall developer, postponed the opening of its biggest mall to date due to the collapse of its main entertainment area, sources familiar with the matter told The Manila Times.

After postponing the launch a third time, the mall administrator told tenants of Mall of Asia that the entertainment area sunk by 1.5 meters, a tenant said.

The mall administrator blamed the collapse on the area’s soft foundation, the source said.

The yet-to-open mall is sitting on a 60-hectare reclaimed portion of the Manila Bay near Roxas Boulevard.

The whole complex runs to 386,000 square meters and consists of four buildings—the Main Mall, the North Parking Building, the South Parking Building, and the Entertainment Center Building—linked by elevated walkways.

Sought for comment, Hans Sy, SM Prime president, explained that the delay was caused by the need to redo all the floor tiles of the main mall.

Besides the rehabilitation, few tenants were ready to open before May, he said.

"We are changing all the floor tiles due to the quality of the work and there were few tenants willing to open before May," he said, adding, "Our announcement may have created a wrong impression."

In any event, the mall already secured a certificate from the Pasay City Engineers’ Office, giving the shopping center a "clean bill of health," he said.

The SM Prime executive said the mall will open by the middle of May this year and will have around 70 percent of its tenants, or some 400 stores opened by that time.

The Main Mall will include shopping and dining establishments, the Food Court, and the country’s first Olympic size ice-skating rink. The North Parking Building will house the SM Department Store and half of the 5,000 parking spaces, while the South Parking Building will include the SM Hypermarket and more dining areas.

One of the mall’s main attractions is the Entertainment Center Building, which will offer a spectacular view of Manila Bay from its row of trendy restaurants, and house bowling and billiard facilities, and 10 theaters including a Director’s Club and the country’s first IMAX theater.

JustHorace
March 23rd, 2006, 06:07 AM
^^what a headline (or headLIE i must say)!! The story disproves the headline. Manila Times talaga...

Dueller23
March 23rd, 2006, 06:43 AM
Hopefully its just a lie...:)

Check this out...http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=33483

JAMAICUS
March 23rd, 2006, 08:19 AM
^^ What do you think I was refering to? Of course the one in Asiaworld city.

thomasian
March 23rd, 2006, 08:48 AM
^^ What do you think I was refering to? Of course the one in Asiaworld city.

My parents went there recently to meet with a client.
Sana pala sumama ako para nakakuha ako ng pics, up-close pa. :(

JAMAICUS
March 23rd, 2006, 08:51 AM
^^ So that means it is still not completed.

JAMAICUS
March 23rd, 2006, 09:00 AM
This kind of landscaping is not acceptable if you ask me. I don't know what standards SM has but this definitely is something worth fixing especially if this mall is their flagship development.



I don't think that is the landscaping of SM MALL OF ASIA. I think it will be change because that kind of landscape is seen throughout the bay area which most probably means that that kind of landscape is set up by the gov.

jbkayaker12
March 23rd, 2006, 09:24 AM
^^^Regardless of who is responsible, this should not escape the eyes of SM management and should not be ignored.

JAMAICUS
March 23rd, 2006, 02:03 PM
Since SM Central Business Park is part of Bay City :

Philippines SM Investments Building PHP900M Expo Center

MANILA (Dow Jones)--SM Investments Corp. (SM.PH), the flagship company of retail tycoon Henry Sy, started construction Thursday on a PHP900 million ($17.5 million) convention and exhibition center.

The 46,647-square meter, three-story building is scheduled for completion in June 2007.

The center is part of a masterplan for SM Investments' SM Central Business Park, a 60-hectare reclaimed property along the coast of Manila Bay. The business park now hosts several call centers and the Mall of Asia - the country's largest shopping mall by floor space.

SM Investments first executive vice president Hans Sy said in a statement that the capital investments being made by the group "are a testimony to our confidence and trust in the growing Philippine economy."

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/060323/5/2hu2x.html

tyronne
March 23rd, 2006, 09:45 PM
Philippines SM Investments Building PHP900M Expo Center
Thursday March 23, 2006, 7:21 pm


MANILA (Dow Jones)--SM Investments Corp. (SM.PH), the flagship company of retail tycoon Henry Sy, started construction Thursday on a PHP900 million ($17.5 million) convention and exhibition center.

The 46,647-square meter, three-story building is scheduled for completion in June 2007.

The center is part of a masterplan for SM Investments' SM Central Business Park, a 60-hectare reclaimed property along the coast of Manila Bay. The business park now hosts several call centers and the Mall of Asia - the country's largest shopping mall by floor space.

SM Investments first executive vice president Hans Sy said in a statement that the capital investments being made by the group "are a testimony to our confidence and trust in the growing Philippine economy."

-By Cris Larano, Dow Jones Newswires; 632-848-5051; cris.larano@dowjones.com

-Edited by David Bottomley

source (http://au.biz.yahoo.com/060323/18/m5do.html)

richpol
March 24th, 2006, 03:28 AM
sheesh, so many people are already complaining and the mall isn't even open yet! hehe. If you ask me, it can't be the best in all aspects. as an example, obviously, it can't compete with Greenbelt when it comes to landscaping especially since the "theme" of the Greenbelt mall is "GREEN." I think MoA's selling point is its entertainment/dining complex and i think it's coming out to be the best in that aspect (what mall can beat IMAX and Olympic-sized skating rink and of course, dining by that bay??)

anyways, here are some low-quality pics of the convention center being constructed beside the parking building

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/rich_168us/Image005.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/rich_168us/Image006.jpg

JustHorace
March 24th, 2006, 04:02 AM
^^nice! thanks richpol!

JustHorace
March 24th, 2006, 04:06 AM
this is what i found about that expo

http://www.megatrade.com.ph/images/maitradeimage1.gifhttp://www.megatrade.com.ph/images/maitradeimage2.gifhttp://www.megatrade.com.ph/images/maitradeimage3.gif

Maitrade Expo is the newest and world-class venue for international exhibitions, large-scale local trade events and corporate functions, meetings and product launches. Its location inside Asia’s BIGGEST shopping and entertainment destination promises to be its unexcelled advantage.

We provide you a unique space from a simple meeting of 20 persons to a large convention of 6,000. Experience our personalized customer service to respond to your every need. Located at the SM Mall of Asia, Bay Blvd., Bay City, Pasay City.

http://www.megatrade.com.ph/maitrade.htm

_zner_
March 24th, 2006, 07:52 AM
^^ thats a good one.. any pics of the building?

jbkayaker12
March 24th, 2006, 08:03 AM
[QUOTE=richpol]sheesh, so many people are already complaining and the mall isn't even open yet! hehe. If you ask me, it can't be the best in all aspects. as an example, obviously, it can't compete with Greenbelt when it comes to landscaping especially since the "theme" of the Greenbelt mall is "GREEN." I think MoA's selling point is its entertainment/dining complex and i think it's coming out to be the best in that aspect (what mall can beat IMAX and Olympic-sized skating rink and of course, dining by that bay??)

It's all about presentation and how a company wants to promote its product. In this case, it is the whole experience of not only the shopping/entertainment aspect in the mall but also the surrounding area within its perimeters. Greenbelt has a nice park around its mall but that doesn't mean SM cannot have a nice and decent landscaping. :)

ThisFire
March 24th, 2006, 08:08 AM
^ I LOVE Glorietta/Greenbelt and Ayala projects! Anyways, about SM MOA, when is it going to open? It's been pushed back so many times now. BTW, can this also be a semi-SM thread? Because I have something to say about SM, I went to the new SM City Santa Rosa and it's nice and nicely designed. The architecture outside even looks modern filipino because of those window styles that we have in our past and present buildings. I forgot what they're called but they're open slots made of glass. It's like the new SMs are results of learned mistakes or need-to-improves. The parking and driveway area is so much improved from older branches.

richard24
March 24th, 2006, 08:10 AM
ey they started construction of maitrade.... nice... :)

thomasian
March 24th, 2006, 08:11 AM
SMIC breaks ground on Expo and Convention Center
2006/3/24 - SMIC

Two weeks after breaking ground on a 10-story ecommerce building, SM Investments Corporation (SMIC) begins construction of a convention and exhibition center at the SM Central Business Park. The two projects, along with the Mall of Asia, the Philippines’ biggest shopping mall, are aimed at positioning the SM Central Business Park as the country’s new premiere business district. The 60-hectare SM Central Business Park is located right at the heart of Manila, against the backdrop of the famous Manila Bay sunset and a stone's throw away from the international airport and key seaports.

The groundbreaking for MAITRADE Expo and Convention Center was held on March 23, 2006. The project, which is expected to cost P900 million, is scheduled for completion in June 2007. It will become the country’s largest privately-run exhibition and convention center. The 46,647-square meter building will have three floors and basement parking with a total leasable area of 19,800 square meters featuring large exhibition areas and function rooms.

"MAITRADE is envisioned to become a preferred venue for major conferences and trade exhibits as it will offer more modern facilities and larger floor areas for international and local exhibitions, conferences, events and functions," said SMIC Executive Vice President Jess Lucas. "It incorporates a contemporary look and world-class design that raises the level of prestige and exposure of trade exhibitors."

The building’s design allows for maximum use of space, giving exhibitors flexibility and options in terms of their specific area requirements. The exhibition area at the ground level will have a floor area of 9,000-square meters, which can be divided into four halls. Commercial shops will be located along the perimeter. A bridgeway on the second level will connect MAITRADE to the Mall of Asia, the SM group’s biggest shopping mall. The third level will have a total floor area of 8,730 square meters, which can be divided into six halls for functions and conventions, along with nine meeting rooms.

This early, organizers of both local and international events have already signified their interest in using MAITRADE as their venue. "There is a strong market, even locally. The number of trade fairs and exhibits is growing, but organizers have been complaining that they’re running out of venues because hotels are either fully-booked or do not have big function rooms," said Dexter Deyto, Assistant Vice President for Shopping Center Management Corporation (SCMC), the operator of MAITRADE. "We plan to undertake an international marketing campaign and tap the market for medical conventions."

Mr. Lucas said that with MAITRADE, SMIC aims to help the country become one of the "international exhibition cities" in the future. "Integration of complementary land and building uses is key to a successful central business district. A convention and exhibition center is an activity and business generator that will reinforce the mall and office developments," he explained.

Earlier this month, SMIC also broke ground on OneE-comCcenter, a ten-story multi-purpose building that will cater mostly to technology-based companies engaged in software development and business process outsourcing (BPO) such as contact centers, animation, and medical transcription. OneE-comCenter will also accommodate financial services, consulting, and even tourism-related offices.

OneE-comCenter, MAITRADE Expo and Convention Center, and the Mall of Asia are just a prelude to what the SM Central Business Park will become. Other developments being planned include corporate headquarters for one or two conglomerates, hotels, office and residential clusters, a coliseum for sporting events and entertainment shows as well as a ferry terminal.

Over the long-term, the SM Central Business Park will emerge as the foremost business district (CBD) in the country, integrating business park facilities with entertainment, recreational, tourism, and residential land uses.

SMIC First Executive Vice President Hans T. Sy said "Beyond a typical business district, SMIC's vision is to transform the SM Central Business Park into an urban landmark that represents the modern Philippines, a new master-planned financial, commercial, leisure and tourism district by the Bay. SMIC’s capital investment on these building projects are a testimony to our confidence and trust on the growing Philippine economy."

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A note from the cute mod (oops :D ) : This thread is growing and had to accomodate other projects within the 60-hectare SM Central Business Park like OneE-comCenter, MAITRADE Expo and Convention Center, and other future projects within the future bay-district of SM CBP.
I had it renamed to "SM Central Business Park; SM Mall of Asia, MAITRADE Center, OneE-comCenter -Thread IV", it's now the official thread for SM Central Business Park. :okay:

thomasian
March 24th, 2006, 08:27 AM
^^ Thanks, but I had the SM Mall of Asia thread renamed to "SM Central Business Park; SM Mall of Asia, MAITRADE Center, OneE-comCenter -Thread IV", it's now the official thread for SM Central Business Park and all other projects within it. :)

JAMAICUS
March 24th, 2006, 11:40 AM
^^ But still SM Business Park is part of the Bay City Project.

JustHorace
March 24th, 2006, 01:33 PM
^^ thats a good one.. any pics of the building?
wala nga eh...lihim ni henry sy na yun

OtAkAw
March 24th, 2006, 03:10 PM
^^This is another box, I could just predict...

richard24
March 24th, 2006, 03:35 PM
^^ wag naman sana,. pangit naman kung tatabihan nila ang MoA ng isang shoebox. :lol:

thomasian
March 25th, 2006, 06:05 AM
^^ I think it deserves a thread of it's own owing to the number of structures that will be built there in the future.

KiBeN
March 27th, 2006, 03:30 AM
Sana naman gandahan nila yng design, para attractive sa mga foreigners. kakasawa din yung puro shoebox shape.

Culiat
March 27th, 2006, 03:38 AM
Sana naman gandahan nila yng design, para attractive sa mga foreigners. kakasawa din yung puro shoebox shape.
1st post? welcome to SSC KiBeN!!! :)

JAMAICUS
March 27th, 2006, 04:06 AM
BY RAOUL J. CHEE KEE,, Senior Reporter

The reclaimed area
The next "in" place?
Until recently, that stretch of road parallel to Roxas Blvd. nearer Manila Bay was just a shortcut motorists took if they wanted to escape the traffic. With the opening of the Blue Wave Mall a little over a year ago, sleepy Macapagal Blvd. suddenly perked up.

Now, more commercial spaces are opening including SM’s sprawling Mall of Asia that officials say will open by the middle of the year. If it clicks, the entire area could very well become the next "in" place.

Blue Wave Mall might seem tiny compared to the Ayala Center and SM Megamall down the road but it caters to a different crowd, one that appreciates drinking and dining al fresco. The complex is designed in such a way that the restaurants and bars open out into an atrium that on Wednesday, Friday and Saturday nights turns into a venue for small concerts and performances.

Tenants include Gerry’s Grill, Kimono Ken, Pizza Hut, Shakey’s, Max’s Fried Chicken, Krua Thai, Hot Shots, Big Buddha and Icebergs, among others. There are also non-food establishments offering services like photo developing, photocopying, and dermatological and salon treatments.

Although the establishments usually open by midday, the heat is hardly conducive for long, leisurely lunches. Most patrons choose to stay indoors where it’s airconditioned even if stretched tarpaulins have been set up over the all-weather tables and chairs.

On the afternoon we dropped by, the only people hanging around the atrium were uniformed students from the nearby Manila Doctors College and job applicants at one of the restaurants.

Instead of cruising down Macapagal Blvd., our group decided to check out the Mall of Asia designed by the international firm Arquitectonica. Once completed, the mall, which is situated on a lot measuring a little over 30 hectares, will consist of four separate buildings connected by elevated walkways.

Some of the mall’s more notable features are the country’s first IMAX Theater with a seating capacity of 650; a special Director’s Club screening room for exclusive film viewings; and seven more cinemas with a total seating capacity of 4,200. It will also house the Philippines’ first Olympic-sized ice skating rink; an indoor theater for live performances that can seat 1,000; health and wellness facilities; and a Seawall Park where mall-goers can enjoy the breeze blowing in from the bay.

In the meantime, that’s one thing worth checking out. Although it’s only open to the public for three hours in the morning and on weekends and holidays, the promenade just behind the Mall of Asia is -- for the moment -- clean, wide and wind-swept.

Back on Macapagal Blvd., we went further down the road towards the World Trade Center where we spotted several complexes that were still in the finishing stages, ready for occupancy or already fully operational.

The HK Night Market and Boat Show complex as well as the HK Sun Plaza beside the Philippine National Bank (PNB) were still unoccupied although we did see several speedboats on display in front of the former.

Across it is Seafood Paluto where customers can shop for fresh seafood and vegetables that they can then have grilled, sautÇed or cooked as a soup at any of the restaurants arranged neatly in a row. Next to the mini market is Changgi Ave., a covered space yet to be fully filled with stalls selling clothes and gift items.

The Hobbies of Asia complex located next to Changgi Ave. was still under construction when we dropped by but once completed, it is supposed to have specific areas for pet lovers and weekend gardeners, among others.
The Blue Wave Mall caters to a different crowd

Across the PNB building and beside Hobbies of Asia is a small building with a sign that reads Dae Woon Acupuncture and not much else. Part of the first floor houses a coffee shop with darkly tinted windows -- the better to shield customers from the unrelenting afternoon sun.

If you do decide to check out the area, it’s best to go late in the afternoon when it’s not too hot. After enjoying the sunset at the promenade, you can then have dinner and drinks at either Blue Wave or Seafood Paluto.


http://www.bworldonline.com/Weekender030306/main.php?id=focus1

KiBeN
March 27th, 2006, 04:08 AM
Thanks.

KiBeN
March 27th, 2006, 04:12 AM
Teka, i think there wud be a problem about moa, last december, yung competition ng fireworks. it was too trafic, almost an hour bago kami makaalis sa lugar ng edsa extension, what if nagbukas na ang moa and those upcoming projects? Super traffic nun... hehe.

richpol
March 27th, 2006, 02:43 PM
the traffic jam was caused by thousands of vehicles parked sa road. so walang traffic yan especially since sobrang laki ng 2 parking buildings ng MoA

thomasian
March 27th, 2006, 07:57 PM
I agree on that, the traffic jam was only caused by too many vehicles parked on the road, all trying to get out of SM-CBP at the same time.
Besides, only the main roads like Seaside Blvd., Simbahan drive, Bay Blvd., and the road along the SM offices are open during that time, the other roads although already built have not been opened by SM for public use.

KiBeN
March 28th, 2006, 04:35 AM
posible bang i-extend yung MRT up to MOA, astig yun!!! lahat ng stations ng mrt madaraanan ang halos lahat ng malls kada station, sm north edsa, cubao-gateway etc, greenhills (kaso maglalakad pa), SM Megamall, Shangrila, Star mall, Edsa Central, Robinson's Gateway sa tapat ng G.A., Glorieta mall. may namiss ba akong mall? hahaha... pwede na mag-mall hopping. Or kung ayaw naman nila i-extend ang taft station papuntang sm moa, edi elevated walkway na lng, i-aircon na nila, tapos lagyan ng (anung tawag dun sa airport kapag papuntang gate, may escalator na deretso?) bastah yun, or kung ayaw naman nila ng elevated walkway, monorail na lng, iikutin nung monorail ang buong bay city, with future stations. Isa pang solusyon, add more parking buildings, lalo na kung may special occasyons like the world-pyro-olymipcs, yung fireworks tuwing december. 2 years ago, nasa baywalk kami nun, pero last year, nasa grass na lng kami, outside the sm, near kfc, super daming tao na kasi, inadvertise kasi eh, parang nagkamping kami nun, super traffic pa, out of stock pa yung mga foods sa tabing restaurant, dapat talaga mga 3pm, nandun na. or stay sa mall or parking lot. para maganda ang view.

awdie
March 28th, 2006, 04:39 AM
(anung tawag dun sa airport kapag papuntang gate, may escalator na deretso?)

i guess walkalator yata yun.. but generally your entire proposal is somewhat too costly but its worth it nman cguro :)

KiBeN
March 28th, 2006, 05:03 AM
awdie -- sabagay, sawang sawa na kasi ako eh, gusto ng changes talaga. Kung nagagawa ng ibang bansa, bakit tayu? hindi ba natin kayang gawin yun? I know na balang araw, magagaw din yan, at may makakaisip din niyan. (Sana...) hahaha

Sinjin P.
March 28th, 2006, 05:06 AM
i guess walkalator yata yun.. but generally your entire proposal is somewhat too costly but its worth it nman cguro :)

I dunno, as far as I know walkalators are those in the supermarkets that have magnetic flooring. :dunno:

KiBeN
March 28th, 2006, 05:52 AM
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/4035/walkalator21uz.jpg

2nd trial

KiBeN
March 28th, 2006, 05:53 AM
tinayp ko walkalators sa google, ganyan yun lumabas.

Matteo
March 28th, 2006, 07:15 AM
sa amerika yata moving walkways ang tawag

JustHorace
March 28th, 2006, 07:15 AM
Travelators in some places

ryanr
March 28th, 2006, 07:17 AM
they also call them travelators.

richard24
March 28th, 2006, 04:10 PM
cguro its called travelators pag mahaba... :)

bustero
March 29th, 2006, 04:45 AM
beam me up scotty

heard some tsismis that the problems of MOA is more serious than it's let on. Serious settlement issues affrecting the foundation plus with their long spans, bumagsak talaga iyung slab. Lots of problems this one. Anyway they're working day and night to do rectification, changing some of the concrete spans to steel. Retrofiting is going to be expensive.

thomasian
March 29th, 2006, 06:35 AM
So whose gonna shoulder the cost of retrofitting MoA? The contractor?
It's their fault anyway, so all retrofitting being done should be at no cost to the developer of the mall, right?
And besides, they're making the developer lose lots of money because of the delays in opening and all those money being spent just to keep the press people's mouth shut, add to that the toll that it will take on the reputation of SM when word spreads that their biggest mall to date, Mall of Asia, is unsafe. Quite literally panira talaga 'yang issue na 'yan, kainis. So whose the contractor again?

Sinjin P.
March 29th, 2006, 06:40 AM
I'm guessing that the opening date will further be moved to December 2006.

thomasian
March 29th, 2006, 06:45 AM
^^ Wala namang ganyanan, nananakot ka eh. :hilarious

Sinjin P.
March 29th, 2006, 06:49 AM
Hindi naman ako nananakot. What I'm trying to say is, if the problems on the structure of the mall are serious enough then we might as well expect for further delays in the opening. If it opens in May with still high risk, I won't regret if I won't go there. :D

3cr
March 29th, 2006, 07:27 AM
beam me up scotty
heard some tsismis that the problems of MOA is more serious than it's let on. Serious settlement issues affrecting the foundation plus with their long spans, bumagsak talaga iyung slab. Lots of problems this one. Anyway they're working day and night to do rectification, changing some of the concrete spans to steel. Retrofiting is going to be expensive. Bustero,
Yikes this is bad news if true. What's your take on the root of this settlement problem, do you think MOA's cracking/crumbling foundation is caused by a sinking landfill, bad piling job, plainly too massive of a structure or all of the above? Suspetsa ko kasi it is the landfill that is the culprit which is being aggravated by MOA's massive structure. Regardless madugo at mahal aabutin itong MOA before it can be safely opened later to the public. Naku ano pa kaya ang mangayari diyan pagnasipagtayuan pa ng bagong structures in the area as proposed. :ohno:

JAMAICUS
March 29th, 2006, 07:54 AM
So, any new pics?

KiBeN
March 29th, 2006, 12:09 PM
Hindi naman ako nananakot. What I'm trying to say is, if the problems on the structure of the mall are serious enough then we might as well expect for further delays in the opening. If it opens in May with still high risk, I won't regret if I won't go there. :D

hahaha, sana di ma-delay, sobrang excited na kasi ako sa opeing ng Moa eh, kay tagal ko 'tong hinintay... :)

onyx88
March 29th, 2006, 01:00 PM
nakakaawa yung mga maliliit na negosyante na naglease sa MOA. dahil sa delay na yan napako yung investment nila. ang pangit pa ng image ng mall.

nagulat nga ako na pati mga tauhan ko na walang access sa internet or newpapers e alam yung situation ng mall of asia. iba iba pa nga version ng story. so imagine niyo nalang ang POWER ng word of mouth.hehe

onyx88
March 29th, 2006, 01:07 PM
may search engine ba tong forum?

gusto ko sanang magresearch e.

thanx

_zner_
March 30th, 2006, 10:23 AM
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OMG... im the top poster of this thread... hehe

thomasian
March 30th, 2006, 10:48 AM
^^ Im two posts close to you. :D
But seriously, do we really have to make a big deal out if this?

Sinjin P.
March 30th, 2006, 10:55 AM
^^ Im two posts close to you. :D
But seriously, do we really have to make a big deal out if this?

I guess it could be posted when the thread gets full so that we would know and we won't be surprised of the number of posts deducted from our post count upon the archiving process. :D

thomasian
March 30th, 2006, 11:19 AM
^^ Philippine mods actually have a way of archiving threads that we won't lose postcount.
It's actually GreyX's secret, I'm not sure though if Ryan has also shared it with Renell.

Matteo
March 30th, 2006, 06:49 PM
do you guys really care about your post counts that much? hmmm....
anyway, whats up thomasian
any new mall of asia photos from you?
can you see the cracked or collapsed whatever part of the mall from the outside?

ryanr
March 30th, 2006, 10:11 PM
^^ Philippine mods actually have a way of archiving threads that we won't lose postcount.
It's actually GreyX's secret, I'm not sure though if Ryan has also shared it with Renell.

I told renell, but i dont do that practice anymore since the Philippine forums already has the biggest postcount by a mile.

Sinjin P.
March 31st, 2006, 02:16 AM
do you guys really care about your post counts that much?


No, just clarifying since some forumers get surprised if their post counts decreases much. But for me, it's okay if my post count gets zero. :)

_zner_
March 31st, 2006, 06:15 AM
^^ Im two posts close to you. :D
But seriously, do we really have to make a big deal out if this?

not really... im just suprised with the post counts.. hehe

framp21
March 31st, 2006, 01:52 PM
question lng, bakit ung pagguho sa naia 3 is natelevise sa mga news programs at hindi ung sa moa (if ever na 22o nga ung tsismis)? pareho lng nmn clang structures na d pa nagoopen.

richard24
March 31st, 2006, 02:08 PM
SM is a private company... they reserve the right not to let anyone know about anything.

NAIA 3 is a (future) public utility.

3cr
April 1st, 2006, 04:23 AM
question lng, bakit ung pagguho sa naia 3 is natelevise sa mga news programs at hindi ung sa moa (if ever na 22o nga ung tsismis)? pareho lng nmn clang structures na d pa nagoopen.
Damage Control para huwag matakot ang mga prospective leasing customers as well as future shoppers sa MOA. SM can do this kasi di naman open to public while in construction yung MOA and private property ito (no trespassing) until it is opened to the public.

KiBeN
April 1st, 2006, 05:06 AM
ngayun ba yung groundbreaking??? ng Sm convention center?

OtAkAw
April 1st, 2006, 07:02 AM
Im so far away sa mga developments dyan sa MM, kakainggit...

JAMAICUS
April 1st, 2006, 07:45 AM
My dad told me that SM MAll of Asia is already partialy open!? He just went there yesterday. He told me that he would bring the family there tomorrow! Can anybody confirm this?

Sinjin P.
April 1st, 2006, 08:19 AM
Couldn't he have mistaken it to Blue Wave?

JAMAICUS
April 1st, 2006, 08:26 AM
Nope. He knows Bluwave and SM MAll of Asia are different. I'll check tomorrow. I might take pics of the SM Mall of Asia or the bay area if the SM MAll of Asia is truly close.

Sinjin P.
April 1st, 2006, 08:29 AM
^^ Thanks in advance for the pics. :D lol

KiBeN
April 1st, 2006, 10:48 AM
I hope it looks great inside too, :hahaha:

richard24
April 1st, 2006, 11:41 AM
My dad told me that SM MAll of Asia is already partialy open!? He just went there yesterday. He told me that he would bring the family there tomorrow! Can anybody confirm this?

bring the whole family? can i be your brother? hehehe... :)

gosh. na-inggit daw ako. :)

KiBeN
April 1st, 2006, 12:25 PM
me too, I wanna be yur little bro, hahaha :jk: panong half open? bukas na ba din yung 8 floor high Imax? sana bukas na....

Sinjin P.
April 1st, 2006, 12:41 PM
me too, I wanna be yur little bro, hahaha :jk: panong half open? bukas na ba din yung 8 floor high Imax? sana bukas na....

If it was half-open or partially open, I bet the IMAX isn't open yet. I guess SM would want a grand launching for the country's 1st IMAX theatre. ;)

richard24
April 1st, 2006, 02:28 PM
siguradong released sa press kung open na ung imax.

oh ano jamaicus...? ready na ung mga kapatid mo dito.. kelan tayo dadalhin ni dad sa MoA? :) :) :)

JAMAICUS
April 1st, 2006, 02:34 PM
Pupunta muna kami sa Grand Hyatt Hotel.

thomasian
April 1st, 2006, 03:18 PM
not really... im just suprised with the post counts.. hehe

Okies. :D

question lng, bakit ung pagguho sa naia 3 is natelevise sa mga news programs at hindi ung sa moa (if ever na 22o nga ung tsismis)? pareho lng nmn clang structures na d pa nagoopen.

Kasi ang SM may pera pampatahimik ng press, ang gov't natin nakurakot na lahat ng pera. :D

chris_d
April 2nd, 2006, 05:49 PM
The mall is still closed. I work in an office in one of the buildings of the Mall of Asia, all the stores I've seen are still closed even if they are already prepared to open with short notice.

I asked one of the SM employees, the reason the opening is delayed is bec. the tiles inside are being redone. (I did see the flooring being redone)

thomasian
April 3rd, 2006, 07:01 AM
^^ Thanks, at least the press release of the re-tiling is true, and not just a cover-up for something else.

awdie
April 3rd, 2006, 08:10 AM
Hindi naman ako nananakot. What I'm trying to say is, if the problems on the structure of the mall are serious enough then we might as well expect for further delays in the opening. If it opens in May with still high risk, I won't regret if I won't go there.
I had this funny thought na nasa deathbed q na raw ako... then when my ECG went flat doon pa lang nabalitang nagbukas ang MOA... waaaa ill hate myself :bash:

iyah_lujille
April 4th, 2006, 01:03 PM
http://www.travel-to-philippines.blogspot.com/

richard24
April 4th, 2006, 02:55 PM
^^ diba bawal mag-advertise? :lol:

normandb
April 4th, 2006, 03:34 PM
http://www.travel-to-philippines.blogspot.com/

i saw your post in different threads.

3cr
April 5th, 2006, 08:29 AM
Jamaicus,
Anong balita sa field trip niyo sa MOA? Give us an update naman kung natuloy kayo.

richard24
April 5th, 2006, 08:34 AM
oo nga noh.
mico, how was ur trip to MoA... is it really partially open?

JAMAICUS
April 5th, 2006, 09:37 AM
Yes we went there because my dad I think was doing business related yet the family were not allowed. My dad is the only one who went in yet he only talked to this person near the entrance and he was finished. Sayang nga.

normandb
April 5th, 2006, 09:41 AM
^^pag pupunta ka don kuha ka ng piktyur sa loob ha ;)

tyronne
April 6th, 2006, 09:05 PM
here's the article that bustero mentioned in the proposal and u/c thread. it gives us a bigger picture of what to expect at the MOA complex.

SM Investments to build second IT hub for P5.6B
source (http://www.itmatters.com.ph/news.php?id=040606a)

SM Investments Corp., the holding company of mall magnate Henry Sy, will spend at least P5.6 billion to develop its second information technology (IT) hub in Bay City in Pasay City, to be called SM iCITY 2.

With total land area of 119,261 square meters, SM iCITY application’s for IT zone status has already approved by the Philippine Economic Zone Authority (PEZA) last March 28, allowing future locators to avail of tax cuts and incentives.

In a telephone interview, Noel Sanchez, SM Investments assistant vice-president, said the company is targeting completion of SM iCITY 2 in the next five years. He said SM Investments is already preparing to construct the first office building, expected to be completed by June 2007.

To be called the One E-comCenter, it will be a 10-storey building with total floor space of 94,000 square meters. Total leasable area is 67,900 square meters, with seven floors allotted for office space, two and a half floors for parking, and the ground floor for commercial uses.

"In our plan, we expect SM iCITY 2 to host four buildings. One E-comCenter will be our first building within SM iCITY 2. The exact timetable for the construction for the second building will depend on the lease take up of the first building. It could be before June 2007 or immediately after," Mr. Sanchez said.

Succeeding buildings could be higher than the first building. These will be called Two E-comCenter to Four E-comCenter.

"The minimum investment for the first building that has ten floors is about P1.4 billion. The investments for the succeeding buildings could be higher since we target the three buildings to have more than ten floors," Mr. Sanchez said.

The four buildings in SM iCITY 2 will primarily cater to the office requirements of business process outsourcing (BPO) firms, particularly call centers, and other service companies.

The first IT hub of SM Investments in Bay City is the 6.9-hectare SM iCITY 1. This now hosts the 7,000 square meter and single-floor building of US-based call center firm TeleTech Customer Care Management Phils.

"But we might use the remaining 5.2 hectares in SM iCITY 1 for other purposes (non-IT)," Mr. Sanchez said.

Mr. Sanchez said the earlier announced Maitrade Expo and Convention center -- envisioned to become a "favored" conference and trade exhibit venue -- will not be constructed within the SM iCITY 2 but rather beside it.

The convention center will have two floors, a mezzanine and basement parking with a total leasable area of 17,800 square meters featuring large exhibition areas and function rooms.

The two IT hubs, SM iCITY 1 and 2, are located beside the 381,000-square meter SM Mall of Asia, designed to become the country’s largest shopping complex.

Inside the Mall of Asia, computer maker Dell, Inc. is already operating a 13,470.5-square meter call center in the north parking building. The facility employs some 300 people who provide technical assistance to Dell clients in the United States for its desktop and notebook products.

The 60-hectare SM Central Business Park, where all these developments are taking place, is being developed by SM Investments to be the "foremost and only central business district in the country by the bay, integrating business park facilities with entertainment, recreational, tourism, and residential land uses."

Aside from office buildings, other developments planned for the SM Central Business Park include residential clusters, a coliseum for sporting events and entertainment shows and a ferry terminal.

SM Investments is a conglomerate with interests in retail merchandising, shopping malls, banking and financial services, real estate development and tourism.

JAMAICUS
April 7th, 2006, 03:07 PM
^^ Isn't there an old computer rendering of the area? Can anybody find it in the old SM Mall of Asia threads?

JAMAICUS
April 8th, 2006, 02:52 PM
^^ Still part of BAY CITY though!

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DEVELOPMENT BY ISLAND

Cultural Center of the Philippines
The 77 hectare CCP Complex is under the jurisdiction of two cities, Manila and Pasay. Along the Roxas Boulevard, the complex is divided into two zones, an Art Zone and a Commercial and Entertainment Zone. The general objective is for the Commercial Zone to generate income that would subsidize the Art Zone. Current locators in the area aside from the CCP are the Manila Film Center, Folk Arts Theatre, Philippine International Convention Center, Philippine Plaza Hotel, Coconut Palace, Ferry Terminal and Star City among others.

Financial Center Area Complex
The 77 hectare area is where the GSIS/Senate Complex, PNB Complex and World Trade Center are located. Other landowners in the area include SSS, DTI and PNCC. Some of the interim uses include the site for the Boom na Boom and some restaurants in the area.

Central Business Park, Island A
CBP 1 A located across the busy Baclaran area covers a total area of about 200 hectares. The major property owners are SM, Inc., Metrobank Group of Companies, MBDC and PEA.

In the SM property, the sprawling SM Corporate Offices which can accommodate some 3,000 employees had been completed and now occupied mostly by SMI’s employees. In the adjacent area, foundation works for the Mall of Asia had been completed and almost completed is the construction of the parking buildings in the north and south wings of the mall. The installation of electrical facilities including park lights in the promenade near the bay is on-going. SM constructed the Shrine of Jesus Church.

In the Metropolitan Park owned by the Metrobank Group of Companies, the newest establishment is the Manila Doctor’s College, a nursing and allied medical training/educational institution. The school which could accommodate some 3,000 students was completed in March 2004 and started operations in May 2004. Other establishments in the area include the Toyota Showroom, Le Pavilion, Metrobank Branch, `Bay Garden Condominiums, Petron Gas Station and the Blue Wave complex of restaurants and eateries.

In the 5 hectare area of MBDC, almost complete and ready to operate is the Jetti Gas Station.

PEA has allowed the use of its Promenade for selected affairs, such as Pyrotechnics Display, drag races, affairs of other government offices, i.e., Supreme Court. The Promenade is open to the public in the mornings during weekdays and for the whole day during week ends.

Central Business Park, Islands B & C
The 204 hectare area is predominantly for commercial use with recreational, residential, institutional, parks and promenades and utilities usage. Current locators are PriceMart and Shell Gas Station. Some 64 hectare area was turned over to the Department of Finance through a MOA. DOF’s area will be the location of the new Nayong Pilipino. The developer of the property is R-1 Consortium.

Central Business Park 11
This 43 hectare area was sold by PEA to the Manila Bay Development Corporation through public bidding in 1988. Current locators in the area include the Uniwide Coastal Mall and Petron Gas Station.

Asiaworld (First Neighborhood Unit)
The 183 Marina Properties is divided into four sections, the low density residential areas of Marina East and South, mixed use high density residential/commercial area and low rise townhouse development. The centerpiece of its development is the Golden Bay Condominium Project. Tan Yu’s Asiaword Properties, Philippines acquired the Marina Properties from NDC in 1988.

Centennial City (Three Island)
The vision for the area is to develop the three islands into an up-market townhouse subdivisions and mid-rise residential blocks and subdivisions which will be complimented by retail arcades, recreational and office developments on the site. The planned recreational facilities include a championship golf course and a main waterfront development.

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^^ As we can see, SM Business Park is part of the Bay City Project.

KiBeN
April 8th, 2006, 03:01 PM
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/817/mybuildings20168bm.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1883/mybuildings20188me.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8775/mybuildings20193bz.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5552/mybuildings20202pq.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6391/mybuildings20219pz.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2360/mybuildings20221ex.jpg

SM MAITRADE CENTER and Convention Center

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1229/mybuildings20246dc.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8629/mybuildings20261yd.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/799/mybuildings20270uz.jpg

MarkiiBoi
April 8th, 2006, 03:51 PM
^^they could have built fountains around the globe. it looks boring with no effect at all. :D

richard24
April 8th, 2006, 04:33 PM
nice updates on MoA... thanx keb. :)

OtAkAw
April 8th, 2006, 04:46 PM
I am quite disappointed with the final constructed structure, it looks so simple and bland! It exceeds way below my expectations. It has alot of potentials but I see that those potentials were never fully realized.

Yung poste lang ng IMAX ang gusto ko.

richard24
April 8th, 2006, 05:19 PM
^^yeh... i really liked that poste ng IMAX...

but i think MoA's exterior exceeded my expectations... coz i never really expected anything grand with 'SM'... but we cannot say anything about the interiors yet... maybe (and i hope) that the interiors would compensate for what you describe as a the bland and simple exterior...

amras
April 8th, 2006, 05:25 PM
kinda like "dont judge the shoes by its box"

hehehe :bash:

JAMAICUS
April 8th, 2006, 05:27 PM
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2292/mybuildings20143lq.jpg

What buildings are these in the Bay City area?

richard24
April 8th, 2006, 05:38 PM
kinda like "dont judge the shoes by its box"

hehehe :bash:


this joke fits most SM malls... hehehe... nice one.... :)

master_pakjwan
April 8th, 2006, 05:50 PM
maganda siguro kung series of low rise building for offices,lodging,hotels na lng itayo sa reclaimed area. or THEME PARK, hehehe.

dudz
April 8th, 2006, 06:14 PM
here's the night view from luneta...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/imagesaver1206/bay%20area/moa/1ad7500e.jpg

wonder how this side would look like at night when they turn on all the lights.

richard24
April 8th, 2006, 06:23 PM
wooohoo... that looks so sweet... and its not even open yet..., :)
hope they open this agad... and no more delays, please.

JAMAICUS
April 8th, 2006, 06:25 PM
here's the night view from luneta...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/imagesaver1206/bay%20area/moa/1ad7500e.jpg

wonder how this side would look like at night when they turn on all the lights.

NICE PICS KUYA DUDZ!!! NOW I KNOW WHY THE ALUMINUM CLAD IS WHITE!

tyronne
April 8th, 2006, 06:39 PM
it looks "bland" to some coz it's not open yet. wait until you see thousands of people and cars converge in that area, i'm sure you'll be enticed to visit that place as well :)

dudz
April 8th, 2006, 07:09 PM
i'm sure it's goin to be pretty impressive!

bagel
April 8th, 2006, 09:07 PM
^^they could have built fountains around the globe. it looks boring with no effect at all. :D

Here's another globe (this one found in New York) with fountains around it. It's the centerpiece of a public park.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9638/300pxunispherecc6xw.jpg
This one I like better than MOA because the globe is tilted correctly.

Ganda no? Kung ganun lang yung sa Mall of Asla, mas malaki nga ang effect.

ryanr
April 8th, 2006, 09:40 PM
What buildings are these in the Bay City area?

yeah, and what are those buildings that are u/c?

ryanr
April 8th, 2006, 10:30 PM
Yeah, the MOA globe is very unattractive. the continents are made out of cheap looking aluminum, its not tilted correctly, Philippine bais (understandable, but irritating) and no fancy fountains or whatever around it.

But at least the IMAX signage is nice:)

amras
April 9th, 2006, 12:31 AM
Here's another globe (this one found in New York) with fountains around it. It's the centerpiece of a public park.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9638/300pxunispherecc6xw.jpg
This one I like better than MOA because the globe is tilted correctly.

Ganda no? Kung ganun lang yung sa Mall of Asla, mas malaki nga ang effect.

that globe is not correct either, coz earth doesnt have rings around it... hehe wala lang...pinagtatanggol lang MOA... :bash:

bagel
April 9th, 2006, 01:03 AM
Haha... Oo dapat pagtanggolin ang MOA. Kawawa naman kasi eh.. di pa bukas, nag collapse na ang floor. Anyway, here's what I found out about the one in New York. It's made of stainless steel. Yung rings...

Three large orbit rings of stainless steel encircle Unisphere at various angles. These orbit rings represent the tracks of Yuri Gagarin, the first man in space, John Glenn, the first American to orbit the Earth and Telstar, the first active communications satellite. America was at the height of the Space Age when Unisphere was constructed, and the rings serve as reminders of America's early space achievements. (from Wikipedia: Unisphere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unisphere))

diz
April 9th, 2006, 01:48 AM
^^ someone fill me up here... what floor collapsed?

bagel
April 9th, 2006, 02:43 AM
^ well, we're all in the dark really. But the rumors are that the reason why it hasn't opened yet was because there are major foundation issues (perhaps as a result of landfill settling? who knows?). That is according to Bustero in a post above (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=7807090&postcount=382). SM said that it delayed the opening because they're laying tiles. And as a private corporation, they don't have to tell us anything. So they may be telling the truth that they're laying down the tiles again, but the reason why is anybody's guess.

rockwell baller
April 9th, 2006, 05:01 AM
gusto ko na mkita interiors ng MOA sana impressive ang gawa ng arquitectonica.. maganda ung interiors nung greenhills mall(hindi yong tiangge-an un bagong gawa na kinalalagyan ng chapel) when going to blue-wave nglalakad kami papunta MOA ayos naman. yung globe intayin na lang natin ung lighting effects baka mgbgo impression natin sa globe.

rockwell baller
April 9th, 2006, 05:04 AM
i noticed also that there is an underpass constructed sa tapat along the highway am i right or it's just for an exhaust??

JAMAICUS
April 9th, 2006, 03:57 PM
Wear Your Sneakers In May
By Carmela Fonbuena

You think you’ve seen it all. On weekends, you can negotiate Glorietta, Megamall, or Greenbelt with eyes closed. You can picture every corner in your mind—on which floor your favorite shoe shop is, where you can buy those inexpensive cheongsams, at which corner the gadgets store is. Why, you can even visit two giant malls in a day without a sweat.

The truth is, you haven’t seen all. You haven’t seen the Mall of Asia.

In February, we did an ocular visit of Henry Sy’s latest business venture and it took us two hours of brisk walking to see the entire mall. And to think that the shops were empty at the time! The Mall of Asia has a floor area of about 400,000 square meters, which hosts an Olympic size skating rink, the country’s first IMAX theater, and a fleet of restaurants, among others.

There’s been a lot of buzz about the mall by the Manila bay. After all, its opening has been delayed many times. Now, the mall will finally open on May 19, at the height of the summer break.

Sy seems to have exercised a lot of business prudence in his latest venture. The 1997 financial crisis scaled down what was to have become Asia’s biggest mall. Instead of a high-rise building, SM decided on a sprawling two-story mall. It was supposed to open last December. But SM said that bad weather delayed the delivery of construction materials. March this year was supposed to be the new opening date, but Sy wasn’t happy about opening his multibillion-peso project with only an occupancy rate of 52 percent.

Mall of Asia general manager Steven Tan said: Sy wants to open with a bang. So they moved their calendars again, this time to May. By that time, at least 80 percent of the tenants are expected to join the launch.

When Sy opened his first mall in North EDSA in 1985, he didn’t mind the brewing political unrest that led to the first People Power revolt a year later. He continued building Megamall while the country was beset by coups in the following years. At the height of the 1997 Asian financial crisis he opened two malls. So why the delays this time? “It’s different when you open a mall this size. It’s complicated compared to the regular malls,” said Millie Dizon, SM’s marketing executive.

A Complete Mall

SM promises to make up for the delays.

The mall follows the same box-type format of SM malls. Designed by Arquitectonica—the same designing firm that did the US Federal Courthouse and Podium—the Mall of Asia consists of four buildings interconnected by walkways: the Main Mall, Entertainment Mall, and the North and South Carpark Buildings. It is so big there will be a 20-seater tram to make it easier for shoppers to go around. The management’s priority is to make sure shoppers will not get lost inside the mall. There will be two concierge desks—one in the Main Mall and another in the Entertainment Mall. Maps will be given out, and there will be signs aplenty.

While new malls in China have eclipsed its record, the Mall of Asia remains one of Asia’s biggest malls. When the shops are ready in May and one tries to visit all 700 shops in the mall for just five minutes each, it will take almost two and half days to complete the rounds. That does not include checking out the cinemas, theaters, and the skating rink.

The property is positioning itself as a family mall and a complete mall. “Whenever you have anything to celebrate you go to the Mall of Asia,” Tan said. This comes from the understanding of the Filipino shopper. “In Singapore and Hong Kong, people go to malls to buy things immediately. Here in the Philippines, they go to the mall to hang out the whole day.”

A shopper will find the regular SM mall in the Main Mall, where brands like Our Home, ACE Hardware, SM Appliance Center, Bench, and French Baker shop will be found. Parallel to the Main Mall and along the bay is the Entertainment Mall where the cinemas, theaters, and restaurants are. Unlike in regular SM malls, the main dining place is not the Food Court. Restaurants like Tagaytay Highlands will be along the bay. There’s also a boardwalk where shoppers can enjoy the bay after meals or the weekly fireworks. The supermarket is in the North Carpark Building and the department store is in the South Carpark Building. On the third and fourth floors of the two Carpark buildings are 5,000 parking slots.

Grand Plan

The Mall of Asia is the 27th mall of taipan Henry Sy. He has 14 malls (including the Mall of Asia) in Metro Manila, seven in Luzon, four in Visayas and Mindanao, and two in China.

His is a rags-to-riches success story that started in a shoe store in Carriedo Street, Sta. Cruz, Manila, in the 1940s. Sy is a “very detailed person,” said Tan. “I’ve always worked with foreign companies before. Foreign companies are more lax in spending. SM is a bit too organized. But then at the end of the day, it really matters. The 10 cents that we’d be able to save, if we put it all together, becomes a big deal.”

Sy’s business acumen now puts his net worth at US$1.5 billion (approximately P77.1 billion), making him the world’s 512th richest man, according to the Forbes billionaires list. The SM group earns from rent income from leases in mall stores and food courts, cinema ticket sales, and amusement income from bowling, ice skating and others. Sy is also into banking and real estate.

The Mall of Asia is just an arm of the tycoon’s “grand plan” for the 60-hectare SM property in Pasay. Right now it’s just the mall. But in no time, there will be buildings around it.

A groundbreaking ceremony was recently held for a 10-story call center building beside the mall. SM is also planning to build a trade hall bigger than the World Trade Center in Makati City and a sports arena that will rival the Araneta Coliseum in Cubao. It’s a long term development plan, Dizon said. Henry Sy is also thinking about hotels, villages, and condominiums in the site. ■

http://www.newsbreak.com.ph/newsbreak/story.asp?ID=87

ryanr
April 10th, 2006, 03:31 AM
^^ Very informative article:) I didnt know that there will be a "20 seater tram" inside the mall.

I'm looking forward to seeing the interior, hope it doesnt disappoint as much as the exterior.

bagel
April 10th, 2006, 04:22 AM
I'm kind of worried about the lack of daylight inside the mall. I think once you enter that world, if you do not have a watch, you will experience total sensory deprivation as far as knowing what time of day it is. It's going to be such an artificial environment because you're in such an immense indoor space and you have no sense if the weather outside is good, or if there's sun out, or if it's nighttime. Some of the cooler malls have skylights that let natural daylight in... but in MOA, you will either have to be in the southern side or the northern side in order to see any daylight. (that is, judging from the aerial photos posted earlier).

Of course, I can't really criticize until I see what the inside really is like, but my overactive imagination is getting the better of me.

Sinjin P.
April 10th, 2006, 05:23 AM
Now, the mall will finally open on May 19, at the height of the summer break.

Oh my goodness, just 2 days before I leave Manila!

The mall follows the same box-type format of SM malls. It is so big there will be a 20-seater tram to make it easier for shoppers to go around. The management’s priority is to make sure shoppers will not get lost inside the mall. There will be two concierge desks—one in the Main Mall and another in the Entertainment Mall. Maps will be given out, and there will be signs aplenty.

Cool, a tram. But, 20 seaters only? Oh no, all the uziceros (including me) will create a stampede for the tram ride. :hilarious

There’s also a boardwalk where shoppers can enjoy the bay after meals or the weekly fireworks.

Interesting.

richard24
April 10th, 2006, 06:25 AM
"It is so big there will be a 20-seater tram to make it easier for shoppers to go around. "

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Oh My God!!!! this made me jump up and down...!!!! ahhhhhh...

its the first time i'm gonna see a mall with a tram inside... ignorante ako eh. :)

*but why only 20? they should at least make it around 50 or something... but still wonderful news...

JAMAICUS
April 10th, 2006, 06:27 AM
Hey, I'm sure there will be a lot of trams. You all are talking like there will only be one tram.

Sinjin P.
April 10th, 2006, 06:34 AM
Hey, I'm sure there will be a lot of trams. You all are talking like there will only be one tram.

Ofcourse because your article states that there will be A 20-seater tram converging around the mall. A is used for singular nouns right? :D

But I guess that one 20-seater tram is still EXPERIMENTAL. If the management sees the necessity to add more trams then they would.

JustHorace
April 10th, 2006, 06:36 AM
Thanks Jamaicus. Love the article and can't wait for the mall to open!

JAMAICUS
April 10th, 2006, 06:39 AM
Ofcourse because your article states that there will be A 20-seater tram converging around the mall. A is used for singular nouns right? :D

But I guess that one 20-seater tram is still EXPERIMENTAL. If the management sees the necessity to add more trams then they would.

I guest you are right. But who knows, there maybe a lot of them.

JustHorace
April 10th, 2006, 06:40 AM
They should make sure it won't affect the mall's views, passages and those who rather walk.

JAMAICUS
April 10th, 2006, 06:42 AM
^^ Those trams may have there own elevated roads.

bagel
April 10th, 2006, 06:43 AM
I wonder if it's like those extended golfcarts in international airports (yung may sirena at yellow lights) for the old passengers and people with little kids. I have a hard time picturing an actual train inside the mall.

Nai-imagine ko na ang mga tambay na gusto lang sumakay upang maka joyride sa loob ng mall.

Sinjin P.
April 10th, 2006, 06:44 AM
Or maybe like Festival Mall's. Biglang may haharang sayo, para ka talagang nasa railroad. :D

richard24
April 10th, 2006, 06:45 AM
oo nga.... sana hindi naman sa gitna ng daan ung riles ng tram,..

grabe naman kung mailagay sa news...

lalaki nasagasaan ng tren sa loob ng mall
it would sound like a joke. :lol:

JAMAICUS
April 10th, 2006, 06:46 AM
^^ I'm sure it won't be that fast that it can kill a person.

Sinjin P.
April 10th, 2006, 06:51 AM
OT: Have you guys went to Festival Mall?

JAMAICUS
April 10th, 2006, 06:53 AM
Wait, there are a lot of renderings of SM MALL OF ASIA in the SM website right? I think one of the renderings shows one interior with a tram in it. Can anybody check it out. I can check it out but my PC refuses me to go to the site.

JustHorace
April 10th, 2006, 06:53 AM
Several times. Why?

richard24
April 10th, 2006, 06:53 AM
may taong namamatay sa bangga ng pedicab, tram pa kaya?
sana lang wla itong tram sa daan...

ewan ko kung matatawa ako oh maaawa kung marinig ko ang ganyang news..

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and another thing.. i was actually disturbed abou the description kung saan you'd take more than 2 days para lang ikutin lahat ng shops... kailangan nga nila maglagay ng hotel sa malapit sa MoA... or else i'll camp outside the mall... :lol:

richard24
April 10th, 2006, 06:55 AM
i'll check it out mico. w8 lang.

Sinjin P.
April 10th, 2006, 06:55 AM
Several times. Why?
Wala lang, gusto ko lang yung experience ko dun na may tren. lol

JustHorace
April 10th, 2006, 06:56 AM
haha...eh di ba kiddie ride yun? dati meron sa SM North Edsa.

JAMAICUS
April 10th, 2006, 06:57 AM
and another thing.. i was actually disturbed abou the description kung saan you'd take more than 2 days para lang ikutin lahat ng shops... kailangan nga nila maglagay ng hotel sa malapit sa MoA... or else i'll camp outside the mall... :lol:
Building a hotel is part of the plan for that area of bay city. I think they will connect it to it like Oakwood to glorieta.

richard24
April 10th, 2006, 07:01 AM
yep i knew that... it just proves that the hotel is feasible and there may be a real demand for it. :)

-----btw. ang bagal ng site ng SM. i'll post some pix here... w8 lang...

Sinjin P.
April 10th, 2006, 07:02 AM
haha...eh di ba kiddie ride yun? dati meron sa SM North Edsa.

Yeah, mas gusto ko yung sa Festival Mall (when I'm not on it) because if papalapit na siya, biglang may tutunog na horn, lol at may bumababa na harang kesa naman dito sa SM Cebu, may kiddie train rin pero walang tracks! (Eww) And mabibigla ka lang 'pag may tutunog na malakas na bell sa likod mo... It's so unsafe diba, what if may batang biglang tatakbo at di makikita nung nag-ooperate ng tren? lol

Anyway, back to the topic... SM Mall of Asia, I'm excited to be one of the first few to step on you and baptize you with my bare feet. :hilarious

richard24
April 10th, 2006, 07:09 AM
http://i1.tinypic.com/v4402x.jpg
in this pic... it seems like they will make gaya-gaya the promenade in greenhills... with all those all time artist on the walls.

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wait lang po... sobrang bagal ng site nila eh... may 2nd installment pa yan... :)

Sinjin P.
April 10th, 2006, 07:12 AM
Let me quote a negative reaction on SMMoA development and other opinions by Mr. Snoeck

I agree that a lot of your politicians are not doing a good job (to say it diplomaticaly). But it also strikes me (as an outsider) that whatever is done in this country it is criticized.

The SM Mall of Asia is not good because it is a huge ugly box. I agree, but you find them everywhere in the world. Those ugly malls were not invented by Sy senior. He just imported the idea. In the meantime it is good for the economy (and of course for Sy's bank account)and there are additional positive (not only negative!) changes for the neighbourhood. (See what happened in Ortigas with MegaMall)

Ok, those Pasay lights are not beautiful. But beside those lamps (which I consider a detail), can't we find something positive to tell? Is this neighbourhood better than before? Are we moving in the right direction?

Do you remember (one year ago) the Plaza Calderon in front of the Binondo Church? There was a little park (?)full of squatters where the statue of Pipin is located. It was a scary place. Now they cleaned the whole Plaza Calderon. It is far from perfect and with the same money it could have been done in a better way. But it is MUCH MUCH better than before. Do I hear a voice of praise somewhere? (I don't think this was done to please foreign investors.)

What about Rizal avenue between Plaza Fair and Recto? Is this not better looking now?

What about some stretches along the Pasig river? Even the water seems a bit cleaner...

I came in Manila for the first time (as a short time visitor) in 1989 and I live here since mid 2003. And I saw many positive changes in this city and I really have the impression efforts are done to make this city a better place.

It is far from perfect. There is still so much to do but don't forget it is not a small city of 100.000 souls. You have more people in Manila than in the whole of Belgium (population of Belgium +-10 million)

richard24
April 10th, 2006, 07:12 AM
next pic...

http://i1.tinypic.com/v442nt.jpg
pagitan siguro to ng 2 buildings... ganda,.. how refreshing.

http://i1.tinypic.com/v4436x.jpg
ito rin cguro... (sana loob to kaso mukhang hindi,..)

------------------------meron pa. w8 lang.,

richard24
April 10th, 2006, 07:18 AM
http://i1.tinypic.com/v444zr.jpg
cinema lobby.

http://i1.tinypic.com/v44612.jpg
how nice naman ang interiors... may trees! sang ka pa.? hehehe... :)
(EDIT!:) ito daw ay skating rink (?) ayon sa file name.


-------------------meron pa... w8 lang.

richard24
April 10th, 2006, 07:26 AM
http://i1.tinypic.com/v44802.jpg
weird.. the file name says "square court" but the sub-title says "oval court"
ANO BA TALAGA? nalito daw ako dun ah! kamusta naman. :lol:

http://i1.tinypic.com/v4494j.jpg
Seafront perspective...(baba)
bowl daw (ung nasa taas)...

http://i1.tinypic.com/v44bb4.jpg
performance bowl... (ayon sa file name.)

KiBeN
April 10th, 2006, 07:26 AM
Wala lang, gusto ko lang yung experience ko dun na may tren. lol

hahaha, that's my favorite ride sa festival mall nung bata ako, pati na rin yung racing, carosel, bastah, pang-bata :)

KiBeN
April 10th, 2006, 07:29 AM
about the pic at SM, it looks beautiful on the renderings, sana ganun din ang itsura pag natapos na, sana mas maganda pa nga eh... diba may terminal daw na gagawin sa tapat ng Moa, pano yun?

richard24
April 10th, 2006, 07:30 AM
i only pasted pix of the "unseen" parts of the mall..

i cant see any trams..

richard24
April 10th, 2006, 07:32 AM
about the pic at SM, it looks beautiful on the renderings, sana ganun din ang itsura pag natapos na, sana mas maganda pa nga eh... diba may terminal daw na gagawin sa tapat ng Moa, pano yun?

do you mean the ferry terminal? or transpo terminal? all i know is the ferry terminal and i think they're gonna start soon.. (or nagsimula na sila?)

JAMAICUS
April 10th, 2006, 07:32 AM
^^ You know, when I was still lurking, somebody from the old SMOA thread posted a rendering with a tram. It think It does not belong to the SM website.

richard24
April 10th, 2006, 07:34 AM
oohh... okie... i'll try to google some...
if you found something post it here too. :) :)

KiBeN
April 10th, 2006, 07:38 AM
kasi, rinig ko sa chismis.... hahaha LOL :jk: , na yung terminal daw na iyon, mag-kakaroon ng ferry connecting to HK, at yung tao sa HK is going to land at the Moa, yung terminal sa may baywalk(promenade), sa likod ng Moa diba? Saan na kaya ilalagay yung Fireworks etc tuwing Dec.?

JAMAICUS
April 10th, 2006, 07:40 AM
^^ Actualy, the ferry terminal is true. There was an article but it was in the old threads.

richard24
April 10th, 2006, 07:43 AM
may rendering nung buong complex ng MoA na pinost sa dating threads... and the terminal is not in any way going to interfere with the promenade... if i'm not mistaken nasa gilid nga un eh...

KiBeN
April 10th, 2006, 07:49 AM
nakita ko sa ibang sites, may kasama pang 4 na high rise? ewan ko, tagal na nun eh.

KiBeN
April 10th, 2006, 07:55 AM
gusto ko nga lagyan nila ng super laking TV sa labas, parang sa mega, pero mas malaki!!! :) tapos yung globe, lagyan ng lighting effects and dancing fountain, some colorful plants around it, Mas maganda... :)

amras
April 10th, 2006, 07:56 AM
check out the older threads and all the renderings of the area are there. :)

richard24
April 10th, 2006, 08:03 AM
gusto ko nga lagyan nila ng super laking TV sa labas, parang sa mega, pero mas malaki!!! :) tapos yung globe, lagyan ng lighting effects and dancing fountain, some colorful plants around it, Mas maganda... :)

i'm sure they will ldo such when the whole complex is complete... lalo na at magiging completo dun... commercial, residencial and business... so this is going to be a busy place in the years to come... then we can see tall electronic billboards.. although ngaun palang gusto ko na makita na pagandahin pa nila ung globe...

rockwell baller
April 10th, 2006, 09:42 AM
may 19 wala nang atrasan!

JAMAICUS
April 10th, 2006, 09:52 AM
^^ Yes, please anyone, can somebody answer our question?

JustHorace
April 10th, 2006, 10:00 AM
I'm not sure. I think it's the Mactan building of the Bay Gardens(?) condo near Le Pavilion .

OtAkAw
April 10th, 2006, 10:34 AM
We can only look forward to that! Excited nako kahit na hindi ko siya makikita agad!

pau_p1
April 10th, 2006, 10:35 AM
gusto ko nga lagyan nila ng super laking TV sa labas, parang sa mega, pero mas malaki!!! :) tapos yung globe, lagyan ng lighting effects and dancing fountain, some colorful plants around it, Mas maganda... :)

I passed the MoA last Friday night and saw that it looks good lighted at night.... the globe has colored lights that changes every few seconds....

rockwell baller
April 10th, 2006, 11:26 AM
wow sayang when i last passed moa the globe isn't lighted!

rockwell baller
April 10th, 2006, 11:30 AM
i'll make sure i'll see it hahay! dapat may mga laser lights! they should also light the whole mall like using floodlights lighting it walls it would be great and will make it look bigger at night! :eek2: :nocrook: :righton:

bagel
April 10th, 2006, 11:37 AM
Guys, I wouldn't hold my breath for a real tram on rails or anything advanced like that. You will just be disappointed. I really wouldn't be surprised if this "tram" is just golf carts na pinahaba. They even have them in most big airports.

JAMAICUS
April 10th, 2006, 11:44 AM
Well, thanks for the encouragement... . . . . . .

JAMAICUS
April 10th, 2006, 11:45 AM
I found website for the SM Central Business Park :

http://www.sminvestments.com/business_interest.php?bType=4&bID=13

richard24
April 10th, 2006, 12:05 PM
ayon sa website na binigay mo... "Adjacent to the SM Mall of Asia, a two-hectare area has been allocated for the site of a 16,000-capacity multi-purpose coliseum/arena for sporting events, concerts and entertainment shows.


--okie, lets compare..---
"At the center of the area is the 50,000 capacity Araneta Coliseum, a popular site of many musical concerts and basketball games and once was world's largest coliseum."
-nodeworks

Seating capacity
16,500

-wikipedia

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ano ba talaga... :lol: i think wiki is much more credible.. (i think)
i bet this is going to be more grand than araneta... (lalo na kung di pa nila sisimulan ang devlopments sa araneta...)

wala lang just a comparison.

normandb
April 10th, 2006, 12:31 PM
ayon sa website na binigay mo... "Adjacent to the SM Mall of Asia, a two-hectare area has been allocated for the site of a 16,000-capacity multi-purpose coliseum/arena for sporting events, concerts and entertainment shows.


--okie, lets compare..---
"At the center of the area is the 50,000 capacity Araneta Coliseum, a popular site of many musical concerts and basketball games and once was world's largest coliseum."
-nodeworks

Seating capacity
16,500

-wikipedia

-------------------------------------------------
ano ba talaga... :lol: i think wiki is much more credible.. (i think)
i bet this is going to be more grand than araneta... (lalo na kung di pa nila sisimulan ang devlopments sa araneta...)

wala lang just a comparison.

wiki is not credible. you can actually edit the data in that website, try it ;)

check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuteness#Characteristics, they said I'm cute ncbmandy.

JAMAICUS
April 10th, 2006, 12:34 PM
^^ Never knew that! A lot of articles must have underwent a lot of revisions!

Sinjin P.
April 10th, 2006, 01:02 PM
SM Mall of Asia - Thread V
The Preopening Thread

SM Mall of Asia Thread I (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=248848) |SM Mall of Asia Thread II (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=289000) |SM Mall of Asia Thread III (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=315200) |SM Mall of Asia Thread IV (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=314173)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/michaelsinjin/Malls/SMMallofAsia.jpg

...SMPH will also open its biggest shopping mall next month. The Mall of Asia will hold its GRAND LAUNCH on May 19, 2006 with SM anchor tenants such as the SM Department Store, the SM Hypermarket, regular tenants and the country’s first I-MAX theater ready to welcome the public.

Sinjin P.
April 10th, 2006, 01:04 PM
Wear Your Sneakers In May
By Carmela Fonbuena

You think you’ve seen it all. On weekends, you can negotiate Glorietta, Megamall, or Greenbelt with eyes closed. You can picture every corner in your mind—on which floor your favorite shoe shop is, where you can buy those inexpensive cheongsams, at which corner the gadgets store is. Why, you can even visit two giant malls in a day without a sweat.

The truth is, you haven’t seen all. You haven’t seen the Mall of Asia.

In February, we did an ocular visit of Henry Sy’s latest business venture and it took us two hours of brisk walking to see the entire mall. And to think that the shops were empty at the time! The Mall of Asia has a floor area of about 400,000 square meters, which hosts an Olympic size skating rink, the country’s first IMAX theater, and a fleet of restaurants, among others.

There’s been a lot of buzz about the mall by the Manila bay. After all, its opening has been delayed many times. Now, the mall will finally open on May 19, at the height of the summer break.

Sy seems to have exercised a lot of business prudence in his latest venture. The 1997 financial crisis scaled down what was to have become Asia’s biggest mall. Instead of a high-rise building, SM decided on a sprawling two-story mall. It was supposed to open last December. But SM said that bad weather delayed the delivery of construction materials. March this year was supposed to be the new opening date, but Sy wasn’t happy about opening his multibillion-peso project with only an occupancy rate of 52 percent.

Mall of Asia general manager Steven Tan said: Sy wants to open with a bang. So they moved their calendars again, this time to May. By that time, at least 80 percent of the tenants are expected to join the launch.

When Sy opened his first mall in North EDSA in 1985, he didn’t mind the brewing political unrest that led to the first People Power revolt a year later. He continued building Megamall while the country was beset by coups in the following years. At the height of the 1997 Asian financial crisis he opened two malls. So why the delays this time? “It’s different when you open a mall this size. It’s complicated compared to the regular malls,” said Millie Dizon, SM’s marketing executive.

A Complete Mall

SM promises to make up for the delays.

The mall follows the same box-type format of SM malls. Designed by Arquitectonica—the same designing firm that did the US Federal Courthouse and Podium—the Mall of Asia consists of four buildings interconnected by walkways: the Main Mall, Entertainment Mall, and the North and South Carpark Buildings. It is so big there will be a 20-seater tram to make it easier for shoppers to go around. The management’s priority is to make sure shoppers will not get lost inside the mall. There will be two concierge desks—one in the Main Mall and another in the Entertainment Mall. Maps will be given out, and there will be signs aplenty.

While new malls in China have eclipsed its record, the Mall of Asia remains one of Asia’s biggest malls. When the shops are ready in May and one tries to visit all 700 shops in the mall for just five minutes each, it will take almost two and half days to complete the rounds. That does not include checking out the cinemas, theaters, and the skating rink.

The property is positioning itself as a family mall and a complete mall. “Whenever you have anything to celebrate you go to the Mall of Asia,” Tan said. This comes from the understanding of the Filipino shopper. “In Singapore and Hong Kong, people go to malls to buy things immediately. Here in the Philippines, they go to the mall to hang out the whole day.”

A shopper will find the regular SM mall in the Main Mall, where brands like Our Home, ACE Hardware, SM Appliance Center, Bench, and French Baker shop will be found. Parallel to the Main Mall and along the bay is the Entertainment Mall where the cinemas, theaters, and restaurants are. Unlike in regular SM malls, the main dining place is not the Food Court. Restaurants like Tagaytay Highlands will be along the bay. There’s also a boardwalk where shoppers can enjoy the bay after meals or the weekly fireworks. The supermarket is in the North Carpark Building and the department store is in the South Carpark Building. On the third and fourth floors of the two Carpark buildings are 5,000 parking slots.

Grand Plan

The Mall of Asia is the 27th mall of taipan Henry Sy. He has 14 malls (including the Mall of Asia) in Metro Manila, seven in Luzon, four in Visayas and Mindanao, and two in China.

His is a rags-to-riches success story that started in a shoe store in Carriedo Street, Sta. Cruz, Manila, in the 1940s. Sy is a “very detailed person,” said Tan. “I’ve always worked with foreign companies before. Foreign companies are more lax in spending. SM is a bit too organized. But then at the end of the day, it really matters. The 10 cents that we’d be able to save, if we put it all together, becomes a big deal.”

Sy’s business acumen now puts his net worth at US$1.5 billion (approximately P77.1 billion), making him the world’s 512th richest man, according to the Forbes billionaires list. The SM group earns from rent income from leases in mall stores and food courts, cinema ticket sales, and amusement income from bowling, ice skating and others. Sy is also into banking and real estate.

The Mall of Asia is just an arm of the tycoon’s “grand plan” for the 60-hectare SM property in Pasay. Right now it’s just the mall. But in no time, there will be buildings around it.

A groundbreaking ceremony was recently held for a 10-story call center building beside the mall. SM is also planning to build a trade hall bigger than the World Trade Center in Makati City and a sports arena that will rival the Araneta Coliseum in Cubao. It’s a long term development plan, Dizon said. Henry Sy is also thinking about hotels, villages, and condominiums in the site.

http://www.newsbreak.com.ph/newsbreak/story.asp?ID=87

Sinjin P.
April 10th, 2006, 01:07 PM
LATEST PHOTOS
SM Mall of Asia

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/imagesaver1206/bay%20area/moa/1ad7500e.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/817/mybuildings20168bm.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1883/mybuildings20188me.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8775/mybuildings20193bz.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5552/mybuildings20202pq.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6391/mybuildings20219pz.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2360/mybuildings20221ex.jpg

SM MAITRADE CENTER and Convention Center

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1229/mybuildings20246dc.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8629/mybuildings20261yd.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/799/mybuildings20270uz.jpg

*Credits: dudz and KiBeN

JAMAICUS
April 10th, 2006, 01:09 PM
Another SM Mall of Asia thread. CAN'T WAIT FOR MAY 19!!!

Sinjin P.
April 10th, 2006, 01:32 PM
SM Central Business Park (SM Mall of Asia Preopening) Thread V: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=337031

JustHorace
April 11th, 2006, 10:17 AM
I didn't know we have another thread na. Hope to see opening pictures soon. :D

Sinjin P.
April 11th, 2006, 11:29 AM
Yeah, we have a new thread but SM Prime still hasn't updated it's website. (Latest article is dated March 16, how pathetic... ) Anyway, I hope there'll be no more delays on the opening.

KiBeN
April 11th, 2006, 05:21 PM
hala, sana di umabot sa 7 (swerte daw?) baka maging malas, gusto ko na kasi mag-open, final na ba ang May 19 ba?

_zner_
April 12th, 2006, 05:34 AM
the other pics arent working... anyways, some of those pics that ive seen is beautiful..

rockwell baller
April 12th, 2006, 07:45 AM
siguro tuloy na kahit 80% lang ang target occupancy sa opening date kasi pangit din naman kung bubuksan tapos halos walang laman.. may 19 should do it!

JAMAICUS
April 12th, 2006, 07:47 AM
The opening would be the perfect belatedr birthday gift ehehehehehehehehe

_zner_
April 12th, 2006, 12:44 PM
i hope they are going to repaint the dull white paint..

JAMAICUS
April 12th, 2006, 12:47 PM
^^ It's an aluminum clad! If they pain it, it won;t be that good. They used white clad because they are planning something.Just wait for the opening.

LhexiMont
April 12th, 2006, 02:53 PM
Yung website ng SM , may bago bang updates? March 16 pa kasi yung nakikita ko na latest

KiBeN
April 12th, 2006, 03:08 PM
most of my new pics are not working, bakit kaya? :? :gaah: :lol:

thomasian
April 13th, 2006, 01:11 PM
i hope they are going to repaint the dull white paint..

Yes, like what Jamaicus said, it's cladding, and it's not really white, it's somewhat a metallic silver-white. Maganda siya pag nasisinagan ng araw.

_zner_
April 13th, 2006, 01:19 PM
^^ hehe.. ok... lets just hope for the best.. its our alternative to siam paragon... though siam is far better...

JAMAICUS
April 13th, 2006, 02:39 PM
^^ hehe.. ok... lets just hope for the best.. its our alternative to siam paragon... though siam is far better...

HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT? SMOA IS NOT EVEN OPEN YET!Sorry, but it makes
me sad when we always like foreign before ours!And the SMOA is not yet open.

May I quote frome Rizal's prediction article, "A Century Hence":

Then began a new era for the Filipinos. They gradually lost their ancient traditions, their recollections, -- they forgot their writings, their songs, their poetry, their laws in order to learn by heart other doctrines, which they did not understand, other ethics, other tastes, different from those inspired in their race by their climate and their way of thinking. Then there was a falling-off, they were lowered in their own eyes, they became ashamed of what was distinctively their own, in order to admire and praise that was foreign and incomprehensible; their spirit was broken and they acquiesced.

Sorry for being an ultranationalist about this but I just needed to say this.

OtAkAw
April 13th, 2006, 03:16 PM
^^Perhaps we should take Siam Paragon as part of the ASEAN "rivalry", competitions are always good!

Sinjin P.
April 13th, 2006, 03:41 PM
most of my new pics are not working, bakit kaya? :? :gaah: :lol:

They're now working.

rockwell baller
April 13th, 2006, 09:37 PM
i'm getting irritated when i hear that siam paragon mall in bangkok! they just wait for greenbelt 7 or moa!