I just visited Manila, and saw the Mall of Asia being built, as there were construction workers and cranes moving about. I thought the MoA project was cancelled? Anyone have any official informaiton on it?

It was never cancelled, a family friend of ours even worked on it last year. They just scaled down the plans.

actually there are offices already in the Mall of Asia... a brother of a friend works there in a Call Center... plus SM's main office is there already...

:jk: latest news regarding this matter(mall of asia) or picture!!!

Thanx all, but does that mean it is not going to be the largest mall in the world anymore?

I just heard that the Philippines will be getting its very first IMAX Theater at SM Mall of Asia.

Fourth Quarter 2005.

I thought they're gonna open an IMAX theatre at Fort Bonifacio Q4 2004?

I thought Gateway Mall will have an Imax Theatre?

I don't know about the Fort IMAX Theater. 4th Quarter 2004 is just around the corner and I haven't heard anything about its construction.

Don't know if the Gateway Mall IMAX Theater also pushed through.

One thing's for sure, it will be a mad-scramble for first-mover advantage.

i never really liked imax theaters. do you guys really think imax will make it big in the phils?

(must have been because the first movie i watched in imax was a rollercoaster movie. i got really dizzy)

any current photos of this sm mall? thanks

Man, I shouldve taken pictures when I visited! Sayang!

The latest ad of SM Malls in the current issue of Fortune Magazine says "Soon to Open: SM City Batangas, SM Mall of Asia"

I saw the u/c the other day.... I'll take pictures next time i go to the reclaimed area.

I think Gateway Mall Araneta Center will have Imax theatres...

The latest ad of SM Malls in the current issue of Fortune Magazine says "Soon to Open: SM City Batangas, SM Mall of Asia"

Is it near tagaytay?

At least almost every city is getting an SM... hehe

The latest ad of SM Malls in the current issue of Fortune Magazine says "Soon to Open: SM City Batangas, SM Mall of Asia"

Talaga? wow. May SM na kami. :lol:

Is it near tagaytay?

No, Batangas City is far from Tagaytay. Maybe the SM that you are referring to is the one located in Dasma, Cavite. :)

I went to the SM Mall of Asia website and it says that it will be opened late 2005. I'm actually excited with the planning of this mall. Parang maganda. Lol. Here are some images, kaso sketches lang. :p

http://www.smprime.com.ph/uploads/images/square%20court.jpg
http://www.smprime.com.ph/uploads/images/mall%20of%20asia.jpg

^ Look at the second picture, puros branded na companies pa! Lol :)

Theres a website?!?! Link please!

Here's the website about it:

http://www.smprime.com.ph/supermalls_.php?id=25

:)

Cool renderings! They could have been larger though, I had to squint my eyes just to see the details. But beautiful nonetheless. I hope that it'll hold the title as the biggest mall in Asia for years to come.

Cool, a Prada store in SM.

nice! they finally relaunched/updated their website. the old had next to nothing in it. MOA does seem to have been scaled down. wasn't it supposed to be 500,000+ square meters? it's only 360,000+ now... but that's ok... how big is the world's biggest mall?

I Googled for "world's largest mall" and I found out that it's the West Edmonton Mall in Alberta, it's 493,000 sq. m. The Mall of America in MN, on the other hand, is 391,000 sq. m.

oh... so we're around 130,000 sq. m away! hehehe... but that's only phase one. hopefully,the rest will push through in the future. including the hotels and theme parks and stuff. I also tried searching and saw this under construction mall in dubai thats set to become the world's largest by 2006 at 9,000,000 sq feet! that's just crazy... hahaha!!! HUGE! how many square meters would that be? it's 836,127 sq. meters... I used some conversion calculator on the internet. haha...

If that Dubai mall pushes through, they'll not only have to import Filipino workers, but also Filipino SHOPPERS.

If that Dubai mall pushes through, they'll not only have to import Filipino workers, but also Filipino SHOPPERS.

hahaha!! yeah...

SMprime website doesn't work for me... : (

too bad they SM scaled down the project. maybe they would have a phase 2 in the future =)

hmm... i leaned from their site its opening 2005, i already saw the facade of the mall (from the perspectives) and it looks like a deformed version of the megamall... it reminded me alot of the opera house in austrailia.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/MoA.jpg

Exactly how many levels will SM - Mall of Asia have?
By 2005 it will open , with its far location , will shoppers really flock to the area ? Is the area which is a portion of reclaimed land fortified enough to contain malls of that size and tall buildings , remember the recent collapse of SAI building. I hope they will really look into its design / construction and make sure its really strong . The area is very precarious when strong typhoons comes and with big waves that pounds the seawall , I myself would not dare to go there when rainy season comes . SM Baguio was recently clobbered( flooded ) by a recent typhoon that struck the area so they should not let that happen again in SM - Mall of Asia.
Uniwide Coastal Mall , which is very much nearer in location did not really took off and its practically empty of shoppers and tenants .

i think a mall like that would be enough to attract people. remember that the biggest mall in the world (west edmonton mall) is also located in the middle of nowhere. at least the mall of asia is not really in the middle of nowhere. it's in the heart of manila's future business district. :D

SM Malls always attracts shoppers, so maybe MoA will still attract people and it could also spur development in that area.
Uniwide Coastal Mall is really (really) ugly thats why it failed to attract shoppers and tenants. Hope they renovate it.

I think the extension of the MRT all the way to the Bay City would be a big boost for SM Mall of Asia.

Most Metro Manilans, especially those that come from the Northern areas, think of the Bay area as being "too far". With the overhead rail system extending all the way to Roxas Boulevard, people can be drawn to the Mall of Asia and the Bay City Complex using this one convenient mode of transport.

I think the extension of the MRT all the way to the Bay City would be a big boost for SM Mall of Asia.

Most Metro Manilans, especially those that come from the Northern areas, think of the Bay area as being "too far". With the overhead rail system extending all the way to Roxas Boulevard, people can be drawn to the Mall of Asia and the Bay City Complex using this one convenient mode of transport.

Can you tell me more about the planned MRT Bay City extension?

Not so sure about the nitty-gritty of the plans but I think it's part of the MRT/LRT long-term plans extending the system southward to Cavite. I think a part of the plan involves extending the MRT from its current Taft Avenue edge onward to Roxas Boulevard.

Can you tell me more about the planned MRT Bay City extension?

extending the current MRT-3 with its at-grade alignment at the intersection of EDSA and Taft is gonna be difficult (through-traffic across EDSA at Taft Ave. would have to be closed-off or they would have to completely overhaul the station design and elevate it to the top of the LRT-1 alignment)

I can see two options:

1 - develop a spur line coming from MRT-3 going on top of the LRT-1 alignment and towards the bay area

or

2 - develop a spur line coming from the LRT-1 Extension Line at the point which it transverses the Roxas Blvd. and goes towards the bay area

I think the 2nd option is more viable.

"remember that the biggest mall in the world (west edmonton mall) is also located in the middle of nowhere."

right.....because Edmonton (1,000,000) and its major nearby markets of vancouver, calgary, sasksatoon, Northern US states dont contribute to the 22,000,000 visitors the mall sees each year.

BTW- West Edmonton Mall is about to embark on a Phase 5 project with:

-3rd level for more than 200more stores
-6000-8000 seat convention centre
-3 levels more of parkade
-another highrise hotel
-an office tower
-a seniors/apartment tower.

WHoa, Vancouver and Calgary are too far away!

But 22 mil, how do they get that? :runaway:

calgary is 2.5hrs south by car.

vancouver is 1hr by plane

as for 22million.....im sure that includes all visitors, local or outside of Edmonton....as it works out to about 60,000 people a day...

another way is they transverse the MRT line underground or at ground level and just cut off the taft ave...

Awesome mall!! Finally they updated their website! Looks great, but too bad they scaled it down. SM is really starting to develop nice looking malls for a change.

Anyways, as previously mentioned SM malls have no problem attracting shoppers. I'm sure people are more than willing to go to the Mall of Asia. As for the LRT/MRT connection to the bay area, i read somewhere before that the LRT 1 extention will go to the reclaimed area somewhere near the Mall of Asia. And when that happens, MOA will be busy.

The website says that the gross area is 360, 907 square meters.

Yes, as far as SM is concerned, if they build it, they will come. It's a bit ironic though that one of their not-as-succesful malls, the former Centerpoint and now SM Sta. Mesa, is the one which can be said to have the most strategic location.

In-mall transport?
NOT BUSINESS AS USUAL By Margaret Jao-Grey
The Philippine Star 09/30/2004

Did you know 1: When it opens, SM Group’s Mall of Asia in the Manila reclamation area will be three times the size of Megamall, prompting talks that majority stockholder Henry Sy is seriously consi-dering the use of some mode of transportation within the mall itself to bring customers with flat feet (and others who can’t walk very far) from one block to the next.

like said in the mega mall thread, a monorail is good. if too expensive, walkalators. like those in airports. :yes:

Cool..that would be quite interesting. I'd like to know more, some kind of light rail monorail kinda thing?

hmm... that would be nice.. very unique for a mall.. at least here in the country...:D

cool renderings of sm mall of asia! frank gehry wanna be =) who is the architect? anyone knows? also, looks like there would be towers on the corners of sm. looking forward to see it finished!

lol, deformed Megamall indeed. but nothing like the Opera House:D

I think they're also buidling an IT zone in that SM Mall of Asia compound. It's already registered under PEZA, it's called SM itCity located at the SM Central Business Park at the Bay Area, it's massive with 26.97 hectares of total floor area.

Theme Park Manila is also registered under PEZA, it's in the same Bay City Project by PAGCOR with a more bigger space at 119.80 hectares of total floor area!

I hope these projects pushes thru.

^ Sounds good...yeah hopefully they get built

Theme Park Manila?? Sounds interesting. What is this about? :)

regarding LRT/MRT to Mall of Asia, if it will be going to SM, the Sy's would have to fund the extension, like they've done to MRT Line 7, which has jumped the start, ahead of Lines 4 5 and 6. But like discussed before, the route would be hard if MRT remains on-grade.

or maybe an SM Monorail from the Taft and EDSA stations of Lines 3 and 1. :D

an IT zone sounds cool. maybe it will lead to a couple more high-rises there.

Theme Park Manila? What's that about? Isn't there also supposed to be a Nayon Pilipino II themepark in the reclamation area to replace the one lost to airport development?

Theme Park Manila? What's that about? Isn't there also supposed to be a Nayon Pilipino II themepark in the reclamation area to replace the one lost to airport development?

yeah, there was supposed to be one. nothing was heard of it though ever since it got demolished

The theme park I believe is related to PAGCOR's plan to build casinos in the bay area.

Excerpt taken from the PEA website:

“Adding a glint in the development of the other islands in Central Business Park 1 is the 204-hectare property known as the Aseana Business Park. Projected to be the biggest investment within Aseana, is the ongoing negotiation between PEA and the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation (PAGCOR) for the development of the $ 15-B Entertainment City or E-City project.
The 63-hectare E-City project is expected to boost the country's bid to become the Pacific region's entertainment capital. It will have three casinos and six theme parks of three themes - a 10.5-hectare tropical rainforest, beach and lagoon; a 5-hectare tropical marina and sports complex, and a 7.4-hectare shopping mall and winter park. Linking all the three casinos together is the rainforest theme park, which is also the centerpiece of the entire development plan.”

i dont want to sound too pessimistic, but is this going to materialize? :sleepy:

Hope so, it will only if the developers of these projects are unlike our country's leaders, daldal ng daldal, wala namang nagagawa. Entertainment Capital of the Pacific? Siguro medyo malabo yon, Japan is a prime spot for entertainment diba? At lam ko gagawa sila ng disneyland sa hongkong at universal studios sa shanghai, mahirap talunin yon in fairness...

If Its 15usdbillion Worth Is Would Certainly Rival The Disneyland Project In Hongkong And The Universal Studios In Shanghai

Unfortunately, even with 15 billion USD of funding (which in the Philippines, I highly doubt-- not being pessimistic, just being real) a homegrown themepark has little in the way of competition for such established names like Disney or Universal. If it were Six Flags, maybe people will come. Like every other thing nowadays, imported ideas with famous names are unstoppable. Add to this the traffic trhat Hongkong and Shanghai already get from tourists, the Philippines has an uphill battle.

That said, I hope something like this materializes. Even something 1/15th the funding of the proposed project would be gigantic.

Definitely not local investors are being eyed on this. One of the rumors that I read is that Caesar's World/Entertainment, owner of Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas and several Entertainment Casinos all over the world is one of the potential investor. Either it's true or not, this kind of project definitely needs a big time player. And if I'm not mistaken, I read awhile back that GMA wants this project to push through (big $$$$$$ for the gov't), we'll see once PAGCOR gets the govertment approval.

I found the article about this Caesar World rumors:

US casino firm eyes two projects with Pagcor
Mabuhay News Service; 4/17/2004

MANILA—Ceasar’s World, a big-time casino company in the United States and operator of the world-famous Ceasar’s Palace in Las Vegas, is reportedly planning two joint venture projects in the country with state-run Philippine

Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor).
The US casino operator reportedly plans to buy into existing Pagcor casinos: one in Manila and another in a new resort to be put up by Pagcor with the SM Group.

But both Pagcor and SM denied having anything to do with Ceasar’s World, even if it reportedly finished recently a due diligence on the casino and a feasibility study on the planned resort.

In a report, consulting firm The Innovation Group said it conducted the studies for Caesar’s World. It also said its client likewise sought an in-depth analysis not only of the Philippine gaming market but also of the gambling industry in the Asia-Pacific region, including Australia, Malaysia and Macao.
"[This is] to forecast regional junket and tourist market revenues," the company said.

But Pagcor public relations and advertising director Edward King insisted Pagcor was not mulling "any partnership" with Caesar’s World. "We don’t know anything about that. This could be another cheap political gimmick in light of the elections," he said.

However, he confirmed that Pagcor has an existing lease agreement with the SM Group for the operation of the Taal Vista Lodge casino in Tagaytay City, a mountain resort town in Cavite just south of Metro Manila.
"But we don’t have any existing relationship with Caesar’s World nor are there plans to enter into one," King added.
A senior official of the SM Group, meanwhile, said the company would put up a big resort in Batangas, the province adjacent to Cavite, but it would "not have a casino component."
"Pagcor will not be involved" in that resort project, he said.

Preconstruction work on the resort, tentatively called Hacienda Looc, will start next month. It will be owned and managed by Manila South Coast Development Corp., which is also majority-owned by the Sy family.
The construction of the resort was previously delayed by right-of-way issues.
Caesar’s World, an internationally recognized brand name, boasts of a portfolio of premier gaming assets.

Aside from Caesar’s Palace, Caesar’s World operates casino properties such as Caesar’s Atlantic City, Caesar’s Tahoe, Glory of Rome riverboat in Indiana, and the Sheraton Casino & Hotel in Mississippi. These are all gaming businesses targeting the high-end market.
It also manages slot operations at Dover Downs Racetrack in Delaware. The company also has joint ventures, and real estate and management contract interests in Halifax, Sydney, and Nova Scotia in Australia; Windsor and Ontario in Canada; and Gauteng Province in South Africa.
In 1999, New York Stock Exchange-listed Park Place Entertainment acquired Caesar’s World from Starwood Hotels and Resorts for $3 billion.

The high-end gaming business is capital-extensive and King himself admits that Pagcor cannot finance huge casino establishments. Thus, as in its planned Disneyland-type entertainment center along Roxas Blvd., foreign investors are invited to put in much-needed funding. (MNS

could this lead to more skyscraper-resorts/casinos? that would be cool. good for tourism too:D

I see , SM allowed a casino ( Taal Vista Hotel ) , is that wholesome and family oriented?

Hopefully , SM mall of Asia have best cinemas , they seem to not to put priority in it , amenities-wise. Are they going to nix showing all sexy/violent films foreign or local ?

Imax. The Philippines needs Imax.

[QUOTE=boybaha]Unfortunately, even with 15 billion USD of funding (which in the Philippines, I highly doubt-- not being pessimistic, just being real) a homegrown themepark has little in the way of competition for such established names like Disney or Universal. If it were Six Flags, maybe people will come. Like every other thing nowadays, imported ideas with famous names are unstoppable. Add to this the traffic trhat Hongkong and Shanghai already get from tourists, the Philippines has an uphill battle.

That said, I hope something like this materializes. Even something 1/15th the funding of the proposed project would be gigantic.[/QUOT

well they say its going to be like a gambling entertainment project, not family or children oriented sort of imo this massive project targets those who wants to gamble and at the same time offerring world class entertainment jst like in las vegas

http://www.smprime.com.ph/uploads/images/cinema%20entrance.jpp http://www.smprime.com.ph/uploads/images/eye%20level%20rotunda.jpg
http://www.smprime.com.ph/uploads/images/cinema%20lobby.jpg http://www.smprime.com.ph/uploads/images/mall%20of%20asia.jpg http://www.smprime.com.ph/uploads/images/mall%20of%20asia%202.jpg
http://www.smprime.com.ph/uploads/images/oval_ice%20rink_sq%20crt%20pers.jpg
http://www.smprime.com.ph/uploads/images/seafront%20&%20per%20bowl%20pers.jpg
http://www.smprime.com.ph/uploads/images/square%20court.jpg

Cool...very cool!

Ceasar's investing in the philippines is good as it will bring in tourism & investment. But too many casinos in the philippines is a little concerning.

Imax. The Philippines needs Imax.
You're damn right.

Here we go again with the premature "too many" talk. :) Even if you count all the casinos in the Philippines they'd still be outnumbered by the number of casinos on a single street in Las Vegas.

what would be very concerning about it? helps tourism, and money go around doesn't it? or are you thinking of the Sim City theory that casinos increase crime?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/MoA.jpg
http://www.pea.gov.ph/images/CBP1A-with-pics-ver2---espl.jpg
http://www.pea.gov.ph/images/mallofasia.jpg

Has anybody here actually visted the reclamation area??
Are all the roads built like Fort Bonifacio?

It looks to me that the Mall of asia has 4 floors rather than 2, or is this rendering old? It looks kidda like the current rendering without the 4 skyscrapers.

im just curious, is it true that there will also be a PBA coliseum built there?

ok, im seeing two different designs here. which is which? :dunno:

I have been to the reclamation area and saw the Mall of Asia site. It looks pretty good as of now. The roads are like Fort Boni, very wide and smooth.

I have been to the reclamation area and saw the Mall of Asia site. It looks pretty good as of now. The roads are like Fort Boni, very wide and smooth.

do u have an idea whether it's going to look like the rendering with curved facade or like the other design as shown by the model posted above? thanks.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/member.php?u=14508
can you enlarge the photos in the map?

Yeah, Bay City's roads are very wide and smooth, especially Diosdado Macapagal Avenue (allegedly overpriced).

Thanks for posting this: It is very helpful
http://www.pea.gov.ph/images/CBP1A-with-pics-ver2---espl.jpg

I wonder how the proposed MetroBank HQ will look like.

@ tyronne and a00556425 - I think this rendering is the correct one:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/MoA.jpg

The other one is the old one. Sweet! I didnt know there will be skyscrapers on top of MOA!! Guess they will include it in later phases.

@ tyronne and a00556425 - I think this rendering is the correct one:


oh ok, thanks :)

it seems SM got the lion's share of the lots available at the bay area.

it seems SM got the lion's share of the lots available at the bay area.
nope...SM's 40 hectare lots doesn't compare to asiaworld's 150 ha

do u have an idea whether it's going to look like the rendering with curved facade or like the other design as shown by the model posted above? thanks.

Yeah, it looks very much like the model, very wide building with the curved facade. :)

nope...SM's 40 hectare lots doesn't compare to asiaworld's 150 ha

asiaworld, what exactly is it? or in it?

i know it's related to Michael Jackson's concert when he was in mnl

well, i don't know very much only that it's owned by the tan yu s

well, i don't know very much only that it's owned by the tan yu s

ya asiaworld is the name the real estate company of mr. tan yu a filipino chinese billionaire. he owns lands, hotels , commercial and residential buildings in the usa (i believe he owns the largest land in the city of houston), taiwan, and the philippines. he already died years ago and his vast estate is now managed by his children and siblings. they do have several buildings in makati and ortigas i beleive and they won the bid to buy the reclaimed area in manila bay, hes supposed to turn that like a mini hongkong with numerous concentrated highrises, but the political fallout cozed by several failed coup d etas against during the aquino adminstration scared him and his partners dealt a blow to that very ambitious plan, he was really having a big plans for the philippines and he even owned the fuga island located near taiwan, hongkong and the batanes islands, he also planned to turn that island like hongkong with residenial and commercial highrises. i really dont have news about what are the plans and projects of asia world now, mr tan yu during the early 90's was one of the richest men in asia owing to his huge portfolio of real estate properties around the world.

he was in fact # 10 in the world's riches during the early 90s

Check it out...i think this is SM-Mall of Asia in the background

http://photos.e46fanatics.com/data/500/16882PBMW_3.jpg

Photo source: e46fanatics - ACT's BMW 325i

YES! It is ;) It looked like that when I past by there... I should have brought my digicam when I went ;(

I think it is the SM MoA but that picture is quite old since MoA is I think on the 5th level now.

Yeah...its not a recent picture. A few months old, i think it was taken in July.

have you read the recent heard through the grapevine talk bout SM...

since they have low earnings...they added to their rental of 20,000 per sq meter with 15-20% of the gross income of that store to spruce up their earnings...

grabe ang swapang naman talaga ni henry sy....parang sila na lang ang kumikita a....

woah...! that shot looks like it'd come straight out of a BMW TV commercial...!!! hahaha! I dunno why, but that's the first thing that came into my mind when I saw it.

I've overheard a lot (mostly from my dad and his friends - from people they know) of people ranting about the swapang and basically madaya practices of the Sy's in the management of their malls. lalo na sa department stores - when they have sales and stuff daw. I'm not really too sure what goes in there, but yeah...

anyway... here are some pretty recent aerials with the SM-MoA in them. and parts of the reclmation area. I think that's the MoA. hehehe... not too sure. they're from philskies.

http://www.philskies.net/library/Jaime%20U./RP-C1513/IMG_1009_11.jpg

http://www.philskies.net/library/Jaime%20U./RP-C1513/IMG_1014_1.jpg

http://www.philskies.net/library/Jaime%20U./RP-C1513/IMG_1012_1.jpg

that area is begging to be developed!! haha...! I hope the MoA will spur construction there. maybe they could turn it into a huge IT-hub like they have in Malaysia or Singapore...

The Church encircled in this picture is The Shrine of Jesus, the way, the truth and the life. Whew... ang haba ng name niya.

Anyway, I think it is also SM owned or at least SM built it. And I think it is also planned as a part of MoA.
http://www.philskies.net/library/Jaime%20U./RP-C1513/IMG_1009_11.jpg

absent minded what can you say bout the squatters area right opposite the pricesmart...will they be able to remove it

:eek2: WOW...thanks for those aerials! The whole area is huge...and MOA is pretty big itself...and hopefully they will still expand it, since there are lots of room!

The Shrine of Jesus was built by the Sy's to show its appreciation to the Filipino people for its support of the SM chain of malls.

The Philippines surely know how to reclaim land just by looking at the pictures above. Wonderful pictures!

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Yeah ang galing ng pagkaka-reclaim... perfect na perfect, flat na flat, para lang silang floating islands, ang cute tignan. :colgate:

Mas expansive pala ang pagka-reclaim nitong SM Business Park at yung adjoining island kaysa sa CCP complex. Is it EDSA extension the road with the roundabout fronting the SM MoA ?
May wider version pa ng baywalk , it really looks beautiful , sana ma-developed agad ng mabilis yung entire stretch because its good for our tourism . Iba talaga ang appeal ng bay cities , may charm at magic pa rin.

i like the film center viewed from the air... it looks like Lincoln Memorial...

Is it EDSA extension the road with the roundabout fronting the SM MoA ?


Yes.

And the reclaimed area has high quality roads and a good layout.

Are those stick-like things standing in a row between MoA and the bay trees? Does that mean this will be a bayfront linear park? Sana nga! Ganda siguro nito when the trees are fully grown!

What's that bright white building at the very end of the road in line with the church?

I heard may coliseum or stadium na itatayo near SM MoA. Hope this will trigger lots of developments in the area. Kasi yung ibang development dito parang di ganon ka successful like CCP , Coastal Mall , AsiaWorld . Kahanay din ba nito yung Centenial City?

How many floors does the mall of asia have?

In an article it says two floors but in the picture it looks like there might be four floors

:eek2: ganda! punuin na yan ng tall buildings, dali!!!!!!! :D

looks good, after the mall, i bet sm would start building condos in that area

yeah a new stadium would be nice in that area

I heard may coliseum or stadium na itatayo near SM MoA. Hope this will trigger lots of developments in the area. Kasi yung ibang development dito parang di ganon ka successful like CCP , Coastal Mall , AsiaWorld . Kahanay din ba nito yung Centenial City?

perhaps for the SEA games or future sporting events? (stadium or sport facility)

personally, i prefer large museums, stadiums, malls, etc. to be placed here rather than skyscrapers. :)

yeah, I've also heard about this coliseum that will be built beside MoA, from what I have read before, it will be larger and more modern than Araneta Coliseum.

perhaps for the SEA games or future sporting events? (stadium or sport facility)

personally, i prefer large museums, stadiums, malls, etc. to be placed here rather than skyscrapers.
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Yah , same here ...a few notable skyscrapers will do but mas okay nga if coliseum/stadium , museum and entertainment halls ang mailagay dito to complement with a breathtaking view of a bayside park , although just nearby is the CCP complex which is being refurbished.

Are those stick-like things standing in a row between MoA and the bay trees? Does that mean this will be a bayfront linear park? Sana nga! Ganda siguro nito when the trees are fully grown!


Yes. Again, a picture from e46fanatics (ACT's BMW):
http://photos.e46fanatics.com/data/500/16882PBMW_2.jpg

Yah , same here ...a few notable skyscrapers will do but mas okay nga if coliseum/stadium , museum and entertainment halls ang mailagay dito to complement with a breathtaking view of a bayside park , although just nearby is the CCP complex which is being refurbished.

I agree with you, a combination of parks, IT centers, a stadium, MOA, musuems, more parks and highrises/skyscrapers will be cool.

Here's the master plan from Palafox... though it seems like a cut-out
http://www.palafoxassociates.com/images/moa_site.gif

there are so many different plans and renderings for the SM MoA. haha...!

I really hope development of the Centennial City will begin soon. the economy still needs a big, big boost for this to happen though. the reclamation area for some reason seems more fit to be developed as a mostly cultural hub - with stadiums and convention centres and museums and parks as you guys have said with an IT-center alongside a few mid/high-rise residentials and commercial areas like the MoA. the rest of the scrapers could go to BGC. haha... and oh, I'd love to see the little yacht club thing they had in those renderings...

don't celebrate just yet guys...if you look closer at the second picture...the lot beside roxas boulevard, the one directly opposite the price smart store is already infested by a squatter colony...and they ain't moving....they already built a mosque...they say demolishing it would be equal to religious altercation....so....mukhang papangit ang bay city na to...

don't celebrate just yet guys...if you look closer at the second picture...the lot beside roxas boulevard, the one directly opposite the price smart store is already infested by a squatter colony...and they ain't moving....they already built a mosque...they say demolishing it would be equal to religious altercation....so....mukhang papangit ang bay city na to...

They should have demolished the squatter's area a long time ago, preventing construction of the mosque, or fencing the area in the first place :bash: . Anyway, it's not really a big deal if they demolish the mosque. It just takes "management" will and "political" will if situation gets worse. :cheers:

wheres the most expensive highway in the world a.k.a diosdado macapagal

don't celebrate just yet guys...if you look closer at the second picture...the lot beside roxas boulevard, the one directly opposite the price smart store is already infested by a squatter colony...and they ain't moving....they already built a mosque...they say demolishing it would be equal to religious altercation....so....mukhang papangit ang bay city na to...

I cant find it...coz i dont know where to look:D Is it near Coastal Mall?

wheres the most expensive highway in the world a.k.a diosdado macapagal

Here it is, I placed arrows on the whole stretch of PDMA.

http://www.geocities.com/ofngol/IMG_1012_1x.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/ofngol/IMG_1014_1x.jpg

@Thomasian - I think that building is the GSIS building

thanks for pointing out DM Ave. haha... it's actually pretty long. I've been on it once and it is very good quality, but definitely not worth P6++B... haha!

if that roundabout thing fronting SM MoA is still EDSA like GreyX has said, then there are now three SM Malls situated along that single highway!! grabe.. hahaha! it's either EDSA is really, really long or SM is really that big. I think it's latter. no doubt. two (well, soon..) of their largest malls are on that stretch...!!

@Dvorak - I think thomasian was pointing out the end of DM Ave. hehe... but yeah, I think that's the GSIS compound. CCP would be the greyish concrete buildings further to the left behind that nice small white building with those cool pillars...?

how are they refurbishing the CCP, btw?

Thanks thomasian...i was about to do that:D Can you also point out where pricesmart and the squatter settlement are?

@ absent - Yeah, that roundabout is the end of EDSA. So SM has SM-City on the northend, Megamall in the middle and MOA in the south of EDSA.

@absent-minded, I've seen renderings of the CCP Complex facelift in the Palafox website. But if you're referring to the building itself, I'm not sure if it will be part of the complex facelift, it was only a 2D photo.

yeah and like greyx i don't see the squatters either:D and is that the where the Senate convenes, in that building where the first pale brown line is?

Yes, the senate building is the one Thomasian pointed out. Its the grey/brownish building. Its actually a pretty nice building.

@absent-minded, I've seen renderings of the CCP Complex facelift in the Palafox website. But if you're referring to the building itself, I'm not sure if it will be part of the complex facelift, it was only a 2D photo.

okay... thanks. haha! I wonder if they're taking on the project designed by Palafox for the whole complex (the one you posted, right?) or if they're just refurbishing the concert halls and stuff right now.

Yes, the senate building is the one Thomasian pointed out. Its the grey/brownish building. Its actually a pretty nice building.

oh..! so it's not the GSIS compound... hahaha.... okay...

Hey Thomasian Is That The Terminal 3 And The Naia Runway I See At The Top Of The Last Stretch Of The Pdmh

Hey Thomasian Is That The Terminal 3 And The Naia Runway I See At The Top Of The Last Stretch Of The Pdmh

oh yeah... it is NAIA-3! haha..! really blurry though..

Hey Thomasian Is That The Terminal 3 And The Naia Runway I See At The Top Of The Last Stretch Of The Pdmh

i wanted to ask that, too! kung yun nga, ang lapit pala nya sa coast ano? well, honestly, i really have no sense of direction in the manila area since i never really lived there.

Yes, the senate building is the one Thomasian pointed out. Its the grey/brownish building. Its actually a pretty nice building.

It's not really the Senate or GSIS building that I pointed out, it's the end of Diosdado Macapagal Ave. that I am pointing at.

oh yeah... it is NAIA-3! haha..! really blurry though..

so when the plane lands on that runway youll see sm moa to your right and if your plane lands on the other runway coming from roxas blvd you also see sm sucat?? to your right, jst like when you land in davao airport youll see sm davao from above, sm is jst everywhere!!!!

Hahaha... the whole Metro is being invaded by SM. :colgate:

i thought SM Makati was also in EDSA.

i thought SM Makati was also in EDSA.

it's in Ayala Center right...? or whatever that shopping center is called. haha...! but it might also be on EDSA. does the MRT-3 run along EDSA all throughout it's route...?

so when the plane lands on that runway youll see sm moa to your right and if your plane lands on the other runway coming from roxas blvd you also see sm sucat?? to your right, jst like when you land in davao airport youll see sm davao from above, sm is jst everywhere!!!!

hahaha...! that is just absolutely crazy. don't forget SM Manila just a few kilometers away from MoA. even though it can't be seen on approach. but still... SM Malls in Metro Manila are almost competitors of each other...!! hahaha..! dami kasi eh...

i thought SM Makati was also in EDSA.

Yeah, SM Makati's Annex is.

Oh yeah, thats right. You can see NAIA's secondary runway and T3. i didnt notice.

MRT-3, as it currently is doesn't run throughout EDSA. Only up to SM North EDSA. But construction is supposed to start next year.

I cant find it...coz i dont know where to look:D Is it near Coastal Mall?
ok can you see the arrow on thomasian's modified picture...on the 5th arrow to the right...the white building on the right of the arrow is the pricesmart...while the squatter colony is just opposite it...left of the arrow...gets?

Yeah I see it now thanks

how do you get rid of them? simple, build one of them usual housing settlements for them. maybe use their labour too, so that they get paid for what they will live on. Though I'm not sure of its feasibility;)

Alright i see it. Its not a big squatter area, but still should coz trouble for the development.

btw, thats pricesmart? I thought it was uniwide Coastal Mall? Or did they replace the dying uniwide?

No, PriceSmart is right in front of Baclaran. Uniwide Coastal Mall is near Airport Road, close to Sucat.

SM Manila is around 7-9 kilometers away from SM MoA, malayu-layo rin, ma-traffic pa ang route. SM Makati is actually nearer. But the closest SM to SM Moa would be SM Harrison.

So is that white building Uniwide Coastal Mall or Pricesmart? Coz im pretty sure its Coastal Mall.

No, PriceSmart is right in front of Baclaran. Uniwide Coastal Mall is near Airport Road, close to Sucat.

SM Manila is around 7-9 kilometers away from SM MoA, malayu-layo rin, ma-traffic pa ang route. SM Makati is actually nearer. But the closest SM to SM Moa would be SM Harrison.

But just like the nearby SM Makati, SM Harrison is also a purely Department Store SM.

Yeah I see it now thanks

how do you get rid of them? simple, build one of them usual housing settlements for them. maybe use their labour too, so that they get paid for what they will live on. Though I'm not sure of its feasibility;)
the problem with this settlement is that it's a muslim settlement...meaning it's more dangerous....last time the MMDA made a clearing operation at baclaran, one of their operatives died

Alright i see it. Its not a big squatter area, but still should coz trouble for the development.

btw, thats pricesmart? I thought it was uniwide Coastal Mall? Or did they replace the dying uniwide?
ang alam ko sa coastal mall it's a little further south

hmmm...im pretty sure its Coastal Mall though.

SMoA would attract so many people from the south and north luzon, but still (I lived in Sta. Maria Bulacan) still transportation will also give a big boost to it, meaning increasing the number of people/hrs or people/day (can you see if i can look around window shop 50 butiques in just an hour, so atleast im just spending an hour for shopping and got home for just 15 min. isn't that amazing? and we are having an enormous number of people in just 15mins, and in just a min you can earn millions of pesos because of huge number of shopper) i don't know if its possible but thats my theory regarding on evestments for interconnected suburban to urban cities... interconnected by railstations having a fast train "Bullet trains" this is a must for fast growth... if we can just get some more foreign investments for this mode of transportion surely it will contribute a big growth to our economy. what do you think?? ( is to sa mga ipinasa ko na thesis research hindi na binasa ng prof ko kasi pina photocopy ko yung original---> yung original nabasa kaya napunit)

Tsaka isa pa nakakapagod talaga magbyahe ng matagal, nasa jeep ka pa, bilasa ka pagdating mo sa destinasyon mo, if only PNRC have done its job maintaining and securing its property (squatters squatters occupied the "riles") asus, very bad talaga PNRC!!!! then all the TITANIUM maid railroads are stealed (the stealers make a fortune out of it, they called PANDAY whoaaah?? they make a sword out of it... isn't that nice? i heard a rumor they sell it for P12,000.00-UP one of their buyers are from the movies of "Lord of the Rings" and so some collectors of swords, hay buhay...... I think Titaniums are very expensive... its not that abundant you know.

Faster transportation, will be a lot of help! kaya lang they will prevent skyscrapers, why? because if bullet train will exist, travel time is just 15 mins... so i dont need to buy a condo unit or stay and rent an apartment right?

Faster transportation ( for Increasse number of people/day on that area), other than the activities given and shared by this SMoA - theaters, leisure park, or maybe casinos, plus more etc. activities (not uniform) that will make the entire reclamation area or the entire bay area a busy place -----------> may be convert it into a 24 hour place like the baywalk....... baywalk damn its so beautiful it is 24 hours used!!!!!

(someone mention about the LRT in EDSA)
MRT on EDSA? i think they got problems on how to connect LRT monumento station to MRT edsa station, Coz you know in monumento caloocan there is a obelisk statue(bonifacio shrine) there... they are thinking of ways how they can route it around that focal point (statue- it got history) plus the building there, its too tall to pass over.... :(

i heard a rumor they sell it for P12,000.00-UP one of their buyers are from the movies of "Lord of the Rings" and so some collectors of swords, hay buhay...... I think Titaniums are very expensive... its not that abundant you know.


that's really not good. that's why nakakainis yung report about the derailing of the old PNR trains lately kasi di ba one reason of the accident was the poor maintenance of the railways tapos yung mga nagnanakaw ng parts ng riles tapos binebenta. sana makonsensya sila.

about the Lord of the Rings, though, i read a different story about it. the one that i read said that a filipino businessman who makes use of the Lahar to produce novelty/collectors' items made big money when his lahar-made Lord of the Rings swords were noticed by foreign investors. and from there he was able to increase his production for export to other countries. i can't remember it well but i think the article was saying like that.

then all the TITANIUM maid railroads

Hehehe, "made" pala...

I think Titaniums are very expensive... its not that abundant you know.
yeah. its very expensive. I think it's a light but hard metal. a friend's watch made of titanium is very expensive, same as his moutain bike.

2005 kaya ito matatapos?

This development will be very interesting.

i heard from a family member that the mall of asia will be opened within the year..

yah, they're targeting the completion of its first phase this year.

Hi Whyte, I'm no mod but I was just wondering what's up with all your posts containing only a single smiley face - :)

Pardon my bluntness, but if its not an efffect of some computer glitch, then I have to say that its not very amusing and its beginning to get annoying, especially when some of us use our limited free time to check here for new posts just to find out that all you've contributed is a smiley face. On other forums you might be suspected of post padding and be reprimanded for wasting forum resources. I encourage you to post as much as you'd like, just please be a bit more substantial, at least include a few words with the smiley face. You can use smileys all you want, but we'd appreciate them better though if they weren't the only thing written in your posts. Thanks.

SM Mall of Asia looks all set for this year. Going with how fast SM Malls go up, phase 1 will be done in a few months.

New renderings from SM Prime's website.

Notice the addition of color in the facade.
http://www.smprime.com.ph/uploads/images/perspective.jpg

http://www.smprime.com.ph/uploads/images/perspective%20side.jpg

http://www.smprime.com.ph/uploads/images/bowl%20elevation.jpg

@Jude, I would consider it spamming. I'm sorry, but like you said a post needs to contain at least a couple of words.

To the topic, yeah that is an interesting addition. What would be that contraption in the 3rd photo? Didn't we see it u/c in the last MoA photos we had

Whyte...JudeD and renell are right. Try not to spam like that:)

Anyways...nice new renderings, thomas.

thanks for that thomasian, got a bigger image?

yah, they're targeting the completion of its first phase this year.

phase 1 would be how big, i mean in terms of floor space

And which is first phase again? The left part in the first photo? Or both of the "wings"? :?

and how many phases are there, are they going to stick with the original 500,000 sq meters??? of floor space of they have decided to scale down to 350,000 sq meters????

And which is first phase again? The left part in the first photo? Or both of the "wings"? :?

"the wings" ;)

wow ang ganda nya,may nabasa ako na magtatayo din sila ng hotel sa sm mall of asia

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid160/p99c6bc324b79e4d7ec378a4e3b7d82f4/f4e92742.jpg
View of Mall of Asia from domestic airport

Anybody been to the reclamation area lately? I bought a detailed map of Metro Manila showing locations of SM malls, hotels, and the LRT 2 and it shows that Centenial City has already been reclaimed, anybody know if this is true or does it depict the future of the bay area?

It makes sense since AMARI wants compensation from the government for it's work, so it must have been reclaimed already, unless they were the ones who reclaimed the Mall of Asia land.

omg its so huge

wow ang ganda nya,may nabasa ako na magtatayo din sila ng hotel sa sm mall of asia

Now I haven't heard of that before. Sa tabi ng Manila Bay, like Westin Philippine so it's not a bad idea.

the baywalk at the side of mall of asia is very wide. This could be the venue of future events in metro manila when we are going to compare it in the baywalk of malate this is way too wide and very spacious i hope it will remain like that.

cool...although not very clear, you can still see that it is pretty huge. And that is just phase I!:D

Developer Beats SM, Wins Bay City Project
Business World - 03/22/05

Businessman Mariano Nocom won the
right to develop a nine-ha. commercial park
at the Bay City in Roxas Boulevard, beating
the only other bidder, Henry Sy, Sr....

...Meanwhile, SM and PRA are looking
into a possible partnership to develop a
middle-income condominium within Bay
City. PRA will over its land as capital. As
part of the deal, SM will build PRA’s building.
The project is expected to be finished
in eight years.

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Any news or updates about the said condo in Bay City?
Could it be one of these towers?

http://www.geocities.com/aaron_ofngol/moa_aerial.jpg

Damn. That would look massive. Though with the massive amount of space in the reclaimed land, I don't see why they make good use of it, like in BGC.

At least they could make use of the bare land right now by hosting concerts and other events like what has been done in BGC Open Field holding concerts even for international artists. That way they generate income and the people also get to know the places in the reclaimed area.

wow. they should also make use of land by making a huge park, like an extension of Rizal Park/Luneta for people to go to (citizens, tourists) and a sports park with football fields complete with goals, basketball courts, badminton, tennis and a nice playground for the kiddies. And make use of the tropical plants the phils has and blend in old colonial philippine looks to it. Manila will really be happening now.

Here's some constuction photos from Yahoo news.

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050321/i/r3355083431.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050321/i/r1290218313.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050321/i/r2350726891.jpg

Filipino construction workers are seen at the construction site of the Philippines' biggest shopping centre, called Mall of Asia, owned by SM Investments Corp. near Manila Bay March 21, 2005. Shares in SM Investments Corp. (SMIC) are expected to rise five to 10 percent when they debut on Tuesday following the Philippines' largest IPO, driven by strong demand and confidence in its prospects. REUTERS/Erik de Castro

Oh, thanks Skyblade, I saw those pictures when SSC was under maintenance. :)
And I totally forgot to post them when SSC went back.

There's five of them actually, heres the other two.

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050321/i/r2181019615.jpg
Construction work goes on at the site of the Philippines' largest shopping centre, Mall of Asia, owned by SM Investments Corp (SMIC), near Manila Bay March 21, 2005. Shares in SMIC are expected to rise five to 10 percent when they debut on Tuesday following the Philippines' largest IPO, driven by strong foreign demand and confidence in its prospects. REUTERS/Erik de Castro

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050321/i/r3766204854.jpg
Manila's skyline is seen at the construction site of the Philippines' largest shopping centre, Mall of Asia, owned by SM Investments Corp (SMIC), near Manila Bay March 21, 2005. Shares in SMIC are expected to rise five to 10 percent when they debut on Tuesday following the Philippines' largest IPO, driven by strong foreign demand and confidence in its prospects. REUTERS/Erik de Castro

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Will there be a light-rail passing through the mall? If so, where exactly? It's looking good so far!
http://www.philskies.net/library/Jaime%20U./RP-C1513/IMG_1009_11.jpg

/\ That church looks out-of-place, or maybe because it's the only structure built there so far. :D

I didn't know there was two other pics in the series. Thanks for adding on, thomasian! :)

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The church, The Shrine of Jesus, the way, the truth and the life (whew... haba ng pangalan.) is part of the masterplan for the mall or at least for the 60-ha. SM-CBP.

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http://www.philskies.net/library/Jaime%20U./RP-C1513/IMG_1014_1.jpg

i wonder why they left a canal in between reclamation lands....hope metrobank also develop it's headquarters there same as SM

purpose of that canal could be for flood control. actually that canal looks romantic. aside from baywalk, ganda rin gawing promenade ang riverbanks or "canalbanks".

Tapos lagyan din nila ng mga gondola yung canal saka mga foot bridges na kamukha nung mga nandun sa venice.

Yeah, since its reclaimed land they need some kind of flood control.

Great u/c photos. Are those towers in the renderings, residential? One can clearly see that there is lots of space for them as seen from those aerials.

jst asking regading envoronmental issues dont u think that tha sm mall of asia and all these constructions in the reclaimed area have any effect on manila bay, like it will pollute manila bay more i mean jst imagine the tons of waste water that will go there once the mall becomes operational, im sure thats already been factored in when the plan the mall i.e. waste water treatment, garbage collection and control etc

of course, all reclamation project would destroy natural habitat of fishes and marine life as a whole. but since that area is considered highly-urbanized with commercial and industrial zoning, i believe its given environmental clearance, however, with some provisions... like proper waste disposal... well, depending on how the city officials and denr spell proper waste disposal and how obedient or compliant are the mall operators & other investors.

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a lot of potential

Yeah, since its reclaimed land they need some kind of flood control.
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They need flood control with someting by the sea?! Wow, lol, the trademark of the Phils is really bad drainage systems! Lol

They need flood control with someting by the sea?

maybe yes. not for the reclaimed area tho but siguro para sa likurang parte.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/sleepwalker_uno/dc/baycity2.jpg

of course, all reclamation project would destroy natural habitat of fishes and marine life as a whole. but since that area is considered highly-urbanized with commercial and industrial zoning, i believe its given environmental clearance, however, with some provisions... like proper waste disposal... well, depending on how the city officials and denr spell proper waste disposal and how obedient or compliant are the mall operators & other investors.

Yes, exactly. Thats why i'm opposed to larger reclamation projects as pinpointed by someone earlier.

@ lotrfan - Of course they need drainage systems for reclaimed land. That land is not natural, so the natural processes of infiltration to ground water wont occur like it would normally. The canals are very important. Venice (which is reclaimed) and Singapore's reclaimed land has canals, so its standard procedure.

guys how do you attach an edited photo in this forum

on posting pics, tyronne is good teacher.

anyway, heres the basic. u need an image-hosting site such as photobucket.com, upload a pic there. then, u copy the img below the pic and paste it on ur post.

@greyx: yeah, tama pala. every piece of land need proper drainage system... even reclaimed areas.

ako sa geocities ko ina-upload pics ko. tapos copy the link here ;)

this could be the most beautiful sm mall ever i envision there will be lots of trees, they could probably build a park and of course theres already a church, so i beleive sm is making the mall something like more of a shopping, dining and entertianment experience

guys how do you attach an edited photo in this forum
you can check "Paano Magpost Ng Pix?" Thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=200800) for simple instructions in posting photos.

sleepie, prinomote mo pa ako ha hehe :D

thanks.

nice construction pictures... I didn't see them til now. haha...

I hope SM will, for once, make the MOA something truly innovative - apart from size - like Ayala did with Greenbelt a couple years ago! and yeah... it would also be nice to develop the baywalk behind it, but I believe that is the one they lost the bidding for. I guess SM has something good planned for it, which is why they are trying to strike a deal with the winning bidders...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/ronnaveth/IMG_1014_1.jpg
too bad a squatter colony has already encroched the opposite lot of S&R

what, that whole big structure has squatters in it?:?:D

anyways i'm sure they can be easily relocated...maybe in the reclaimed land itself.

theyre lucky to be relocated in that area

relocating them could bring about both political and religious challenges... they already built a mosque down there...

Paalisin sila!

Paalisin sila!
that won't that easy....remember it's not just an ordinary squatters colony....it's a muslim squatters colony....meaning they'll say it's religious discrimination if we demolish their mosque

but i guess it could be done since they're standing in the part owned by metrobank...cause a bank would be very determine in getting the value of their assets

How about if the bank sells it to them? :?

Di na kailangan paalisin kasi nasunog na mga bahay nila..ang dapat lang ay mabantayan ang lugar at ng di na sila makabalik...irelocate na lang sila..

Bad News but this is the answer to all your question about the squatters colony in Bay city

Fire gutted 200 houses at a reclamation area in front of Baclaran Redemptorist Church in Parañaque City early Tuesday.

Firefighters said they are verifying reports that a toppled candle sparked the fire at the house of a certain Tessie Berto at 5 a.m.

Authorities said about 2,000 families lost their homes in the fire, which was put out at 5:30 a.m.

Damage was estimated at P4 million.

I saw that yesterday too... is that the squatter colony circled in the picture in the last page?

I saw that yesterday too... is that the squatter colony circled in the picture in the last page?

yes thats them...

How about their mosque? That was damaged too?

Yeah I hope they get properly resettled. Thing is, the government only really acts when they want to use that lands e.g. Northrail. It's like a kid with a bib, waiting for his mum to open his mouth for him and feed him....:D

How about their mosque? That was damaged too?

Yeah I hope they get properly resettled. Thing is, the government only really acts when they want to use that lands e.g. Northrail. It's like a kid with a bib, waiting for his mum to open his mouth for him and feed him....:D

haha!!

umm, I think the mosque was damaged too... I'm not entirely sure though. I know heard something about the mosque on the report on TV Patrol...

I also think the mosque was damaged, but I saw on TV the top part with the crescent moon on it so probably only some parts were damaged because the dome with the moon still stands.

I really have nothing against the muslims because they're good people anyway, it's just that some of them chose to be terrorists. I'm really saddened by the fire that razed their community but I also want them out of that area not because they're muslims but because they are squatters. I hope they get properly resettled.

How about if the bank sells it to them? :?
malabo to kasi....mahal siguro ginastos nila sa reclamation

I also think the mosque was damaged, but I saw on TV the top part with the crescent moon on it so probably only some parts were damaged because the dome with the moon still stands.

I really have nothing against the muslims because they're good people anyway, it's just that some of them chose to be terrorists. I'm really saddened by the fire that razed their community but I also want them out of that area not because they're muslims but because they are squatters. I hope they get properly resettled.


That's well said. There's a difference between being a community and a squatter.

That's well said. There's a difference between being a community and a squatter.

just a note:

the use of the word "sqatters" is not allowed on governement documents and such. kase daw ang the word squatters is so demeaning that it actually means an unwelcomed, oucasted individual residing illegaly. ang panget naman daw pag filipino squatter sa sariling bayan... so the term "informal settlers"

demolishing informal settlers is not an easy job. they are protected by the "lina law" passed in 1992, it stated na hindi puwedeng mag demolish ng structure ng informal settlers until may siguradong malilipatang lugar. so until the time the government produces a relocation site para sa kanila... di sila puwedeng paalisin. (ano ba yan! sobrang pasanin sa budget naten..)

so it seems like they are there to stay... don't worry... may shanty area din namang malapit sa makati at ortigas... nakikiuso lang ung reclamation area :)

but isnt it that squatting on a land not theirs is illegal or tolerated

well yes it is illegal but kicking them out with force only makes things worse.

that reclamation area is not a charitable project and squatting is illegal. i suppose they are "professional" squatters... making squatting as their profession. here it goes... babayaran sila or they will be relocated. after a couple of weeks, ibebenta ang rights ng relocation nila... then squat na naman... a vicious cycle.

that reclamation area is not a charitable project and squatting is illegal. i suppose they are "professional" squatters... making squatting as their profession. here it goes... babayaran sila or they will be relocated. after a couple of weeks, ibebenta ang rights ng relocation nila... then squat na naman... a vicious cycle.

Thats their profession wala tayong magagawa dyan...Mas malaki kasi ang boto na nakukuha pag eleksyon sa mga squatter kaya inaalagaan sila ng mga mayors :D

i beleive urban poor are protected by our laws in their particualar case ileal suatters against eviction without relocation, politicians realized how big their clout is during elections

Thats their profession wala tayong magagawa dyan...Mas malaki kasi ang boto na nakukuha pag eleksyon sa mga squatter kaya inaalagaan sila ng mga mayors :D

Meron tayong magagawa...actualy marami... per your Phil Democracy thread...

i beleive urban poor are protected by our laws in their particualar case ileal suatters against eviction without relocation, politicians realized how big their clout is during elections

that is why mas napalala ang sitwasyon. its like "oh, lets squat... a new relocation site await us", then on a huge billboard: "this project is though the initiative of congressman or mayor ". our politicians never realized the effects of giving fish to its constituents.

that won't that easy....remember it's not just an ordinary squatters colony....it's a muslim squatters colony....meaning they'll say it's religious discrimination if we demolish their mosque

i guess that mosque is part of their strategy...

but i guess it could be done since they're standing in the part owned by metrobank...cause a bank would be very determine in getting the value of their assets

another non-performing asset by metrobank? was it acquired through dacion en pago or foreclosure?

i guess that mosque is part of their strategy...

another non-performing asset by metrobank? was it acquired through dacion en pago or foreclosure?
ganun naman palagi ang move ng mga muslim groups....i remember in one telecast bout the faith of christianity after the pope's death by CNN, they mentioned: when a muslim community goes to a christian country, they demand to have equal rights...equal status....say they want a mosque establish in the capital of a european country; but when a chrsitain community goes to a muslim country, they ban it...like in saudi arabia...you could be imprisoned just by having a bible......i believe it's their overall strategy to take over the world.....

.i believe it's their overall strategy to take over the world.....

Thats really ignorant...

There ARE Churches in SA, UAE, Iran, etc....

But in backwards uber-conservative countries that our country somehow came to be, some people belive Muslims are trying to "take over the world".(Christian propaganda?) Actually I think Catholics are trying to take over the world... in the bible it says were supposed to throw our religion down people's throughts.

Sorry for the little outburst here.

... i prayed for world peace... actually, Christians or Muslims have equal rights on constructing whatever they wish provided it is within their legal property.

so, what about SM?

Thats really ignorant...

There ARE Churches in SA, UAE, Iran, etc....

But in backwards uber-conservative countries that our country somehow came to be, some people belive Muslims are trying to "take over the world".(Christian propaganda?) Actually I think Catholics are trying to take over the world... in the bible it says were supposed to throw our religion down people's throughts.

Sorry for the little outburst here.
ok...so there's churches there....big deal.....you know what i'm pointing....it's that there's an inequality of standards by a muslim country when a christian sect tries to establish at thier country than when a mosque is being built in a christian country......that's just my point.....with that inequality....it's ineviatble that islam would gain an advantage.....that's all....all i'm pointing out is that there's inequality

Thats really ignorant...

There ARE Churches in SA, UAE, Iran, etc....

Have u been to Saudi? I have, and I was subjected to physical check all the way to openning my bags and luggage for them to find the typical things Christians have, bible, rosary, etc. I didnt bring those coz I was already forewarned. But Some of the pinoys who were there with me, all their things that relate to Christian faith were sequestered. Yes there are churches in Saudi...BUT (big but) they are underground coz if u practice ur faith there other than Islam. Kalaboso ka. And mind u pinoys who practice Faith there are not Catholics...Mostly are of Christian (Non-Catholic) denomination. Roman Catholicism faith is based on 'convenience' not in 'Faith'. So most RC's like I was once are afraid to practice their faith there.

So it's true that they have a biased look at the practice of faith specially in Saudi. Other Mid-east countries are ok. In Christian Countries they are welcome to come and build their Mosque...and most Christians didnt until they started bombing the world in the name of their Quran....hmmm....Have u heard of Christian Spreading Terror in the name of 'Jesus'....

Anyway we are discussin Mall of Asia here...Y dont they build a mosque in the mall of asia grounds...rather that just RC chhurch...They can also build a Taoist Temple, Bhuddist temple, Anyway its 'Mall of Asia' isnt asia comprised of different religions....

GO BACK TO THE TOPIC - SM MALL OF ASIA

or i will close the thread...

Will SM MOA have a theme park, like Berjaya Times Square?

GO BACK TO THE TOPIC - SM MALL OF ASIA

or i will close the thread...

Will SM MOA have a theme park, like Berjaya Times Square?
ok ok....relax k lang

yeah berjaya times square in kuala lumpur i think they have the biggest indoor roller coaster there???, i beleive its also in the planning of smoa

Well, MoA also has a planned Coliseum supposedly bigger, better and more modern than the current one in Araneta Center. Other proposals like a theme park is also possible since the SM CBP is 60 ha. big so there's a lot of space for all of those.

my brother who goes to the SM head offices said that they are planning to finish the Mall of Asia by the end of the year.. to rake in ther money from the christmas season i guess.. kaya 24 hours na raw ang shifts on the construction site

Cool, another indoor stadium eh? I don't know who will use it though, there's quite a lot going around in MM. Isn't there one nearby in Pasay or near Rizal Memorial?

Looks like SM is set to build a city for itself:D

a self contained with shopping l, entertainment, sports??? amusement???, leisurely parks, church, we got it all for you

Was it here that someone was saying they're putting an IMAX in Mall of Asia? Any confirmation if this is correct that would be real neat for the city.

a self contained with shopping l, entertainment, sports??? amusement???, leisurely parks, church, we got it all for you

Retailers like to entrap the unassuming consumer by providing everything in a "one-stop" place to rake in the profits. Disney World here in Orlando is like that. :)

Was it here that someone was saying they're putting an IMAX in Mall of Asia? Any confirmation if this is correct that would be real neat for the city.

At first, we heard it would be in Gateway Mall. But obviously, they didnt install one. Then, we heard it would be in SM-Mall of Asia. I havent heard if it is confirmed or not.

Glad to hear that SM is speeding up the project:)

very recent photo from boardwalk. just a bit hazy

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/imagesaver1206/bay%20area/IMG_0567c.jpg

looks almost complete from the outside. really huge

Grabe, ang laki na talaga!

wow, thats huge, is that the parking lot?

Looks like it, but it'd be ridiculous if the whole thing was parking only. Perhaps the upper floors are parking (the levels with the strip lines) and the lower levels the proper mall. And there's more to come :eek: :master:

holy freaking crap...!! Mall of Asia is huge!! that is just absolutely jaw-dropping...! haha!! the long side on that angle is the back side, right? wow... and it's going amazingly fast too!

SM should really put up a cool new mini-city there with the hotels and convention centers and stuff.

btw, thanks for posting, dudz!

can't wait to see SM Mall of Asia once it starts operating .... thanks for the pix!

x mas shopping will be awhole lot of fun this year

x mas shopping will be awhole lot of fun this year

ahahahaha!!! lucky for you guys in the Philippines! the main mall here is probably barely even the size of one MOA parking level...!

and where is that

and where is that

oh... haha! in Richmond... it's like another city right beside Vancouver in BC in Canada. mini-HK/Asia, if you will... haha!

All they have in Richmond are strip malls that are only 1-2 stories high. Asian malls are much better than North American ones, imo:)

Lance, you live in Richmond? I might live there in a year's time. First, we will get a house in Vancouver before buying a house either in Richmond, Coquitlam or Burnaby. sorry for going off-topic, maybe absent can reply thru pm:D

Looks like it, but it'd be ridiculous if the whole thing was parking only. Perhaps the upper floors are parking (the levels with the strip lines) and the lower levels the proper mall. And there's more to come :eek: :master:

The side buildings will have 4 levels of parking, three levels plus the rooftop level.

The two lower floors will be for the mall. It could even be three stories if there's an underground level.

The Mall of Asia was featured in a TM (Touch Mobile) advertisement.
I don't know if was recent or was it the mall of asia? Please confirm :)

All they have in Richmond are strip malls that are only 1-2 stories high. Asian malls are much better than North American ones, imo:)

Lance, you live in Richmond? I might live there in a year's time. First, we will get a house in Vancouver before buying a house either in Richmond, Coquitlam or Burnaby. sorry for going off-topic, maybe absent can reply thru pm:D


I agree. Well not counting the world famous West Edmonton Mall in Edmonton, Alberta here in Canada, it is true, Asian malls like the Philippines malls are just much better than the ones in both Canada and USA. Much more character, better goods and a joy to be in.

The Mall of Asia was featured in a TM (Touch Mobile) advertisement.
I don't know if was recent or was it the mall of asia? Please confirm :)

The "piso" commercial of TM is indeed the MoA.
And it shows a lot, and I mean a lot of construction workers.

BTW, passed by roxas blvd yesterday and I noticed that the MoA area is full of lights so construction could indeed be 24 hrs.

When is ther MoA scheduled to open?

December '05