^^

Yes, CB and SB has different target markets.
Basi sa Robi na gid man ma open ang SB. hmm :)
or Amigo?

supposed to be didto near sm city.. it was supposed to be a stand-alone store. kso, as what our fellow forumer mentioned, nagka problema ang starbucks sa sm management.. so they have to relocate. the best tani kung didto guid nila guin butang sa sm, kay damu didto tao and lapit sya sa smallville.. but now, they have to thing other possible sites.. could be amigo also. future BPO building na and exactly a downtown area.. :banana:

^^nami guid man tani kung lapit sa SM city ang SB. but, will just wait and see where they will be located.

You know what I find weird...

The global banking sector is actually falling but Malayan Bank is actually opening new banks.

Something to think about regarding Iloilo...;)

Syimpre nakita man nila ang negosyo sa iloilo, wala untat ang opening sang mga small and medium nga negosyo. In just 3 months daw 5 gid ka banks nag open dire. Ga boom gid ya ang negosyo sa iloilo, ang maayo lang dire sa aton wala naga ka close, naga expand pa gani. :banana::banana:

^^nami guid man tani kung lapit sa SM city ang SB. but, will just wait and see where they will be located.

ang akon assessment, if indi ang SB kag ang SM maka renegotiate.. daw sa amigo guid na ang tupa san SB.. didto ang second best option nila. daw alang alang man ang location sang robinsons.. :lol:

COFFEEBREAK VS STARBUCKS
- i think they have a clientele of their own and i think they can exist even side by side since CB has already carved it's own niche (and expanding like mushrooms) while starbucks may bank on its "name" plus the fact that it creates excitement even with just rumours of it's wentry in the city long before

as i've mentioned before, VIENNA KAFFEEHAUS at robinsons place already has closed shop. their location at that mall is almost a perfect one for starbucks
- near one of the main doors
- can have it's own doors for it to open independently from the mall
- size good enough for a cafe

but its the location of the mall itself that would be a big question though rumours has it na the mall is also being considered as another location. only time will tell


Coffee Break Valeria Now Open...

ara ko kahapon Coffee Break Gen Luna from 4pm-1230am, damu damu tawu, puno gid, laban bi ga tuluon te tamaby lang ko eh upod miga ko ky ga tuon siya ya kag dinner ko sa Fort Manokan, namit ila manok... hehe...:bash::lol:


hambal kahapon sang migo ko na ga ubra sa Amigo Hotel, ng backout man gd ang Starbucks pero ang ga bidding subong na coffee shop, Bluejay and Figaro, amu ma lang na hambal niya, regarding sa shops, wala pa gid siya idea kun anu ma open pero ang mall kunu ma open last week of October or November..:)


para sakon ready na ang Iloilo for Starbucks, basta ang sa Rob tuod gid na didto sila tani ky my mga shops ng close dayun ng re open man and amu mana hambal sng mga tawu pa libot da galing nag backout man...:)

what's your reaction to this? another symptom of filipino "crab mentality"? hahaha :lol: these leaders should learn to promote the interest of the filipino people as a whole and not the other way around.. i was surprised that governor nava, was one of the signatories. :nuts:

STOP ANTIQUE COAL MINE FIRST
Iloilo City leaders tell Antique Gov. Perez
October 11, 2008

By Francis Allan L. Angelo


Antonio
OTHER local government officials must respect the Iloilo City government and the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) for allowing the construction of the proposed coal-fired power plant in LaPaz district.

This was the reaction of city officials to a report that five Western Visayas governors signed a position paper urging the DENR to withdraw the environmental compliance certificate issued to project proponent Global Business Power Corp. (GBPC).

Iloilo City officials were one in saying that their counterparts in other provinces should observe inter-local government unit courtesy in this issue.

Iloilo City Mayor Jerry Treñas said he did not even comment on the geothermal power plant expansion project in Negros Occidental, which is also being opposed by environmentalists, even if it will mean additional sources of cheap and reliable energy for the region.

“Negros is lucky because they have geothermal. We don’t have anything here. What if we tell Negrenses to stop the expansion because it will destroy the forest? What if we tell Governor Perez to stop coal mining in Semirara, how would she feel? It doesn’t make sense” he added.

Treñas said the city needs the project to bring in more investors and employment to Ilonggos.

“We need it badly. We have seen the renewed interest and confidence of investors in the business processes outsourcing upon learning that the power plant will be constructed,” Treñas said.

The mayor said other LGUs should respect Iloilo City “because this is our need and we know what we want.”

“They should not undermine us because we studied everything carefully. We are growing very fast and we need power. Our growth rate is even higher than the national average,” Treñas said.

Treñas said he was also surprised because Governor Nava signed the position paper “when we are partners in the Metro Iloilo Guimaras Development Council that will benefit from the project.”

Liga ng mga Barangay president Irene Ong said the five governors should “walk their talk” and refrain from commenting on the policies and programs of other LGUs.

Ong said that if coal is dangerous, “then Antique Governor Perez should (first) stop coal mining in Semirara Island.”

“That would be hypocritical of them if they oppose the plant but the mining continues. What do they know about the needs of the city?” Ong said.

The Liga is one of the staunch supporters of the project along with business groups and other sectors in the city.

Iloilo City Rep. Raul Gonzalez Jr. said the project will not only benefit the city and province of Iloilo but the entire island of Panay.

Gonzalez said other provinces should support the coal-fired power plant project “if they want the region to develop.”

“This (project) is something the city needs for development. The project will result in lower power rates aside from stable and reliable source of electricity. This particular project is good for one generation,” Gonzalez said.

Gonzalez also emphasized that other LGUs “have nothing to do with issues in the city” and they should not underestimate the intelligence of Iloilo City officials.

“We don’t question the initiatives of other LUGs in their own jurisdictions. This is basic courtesy to another LGU. If other provinces are concerned with the environment, maalam man ang atun city officials and they know how to address these concerns,” he added.

Iloilo City Vice Mayor Jed Patrick said the governors should refrain from interfering from the affairs of the city and dictating its direction.

“Anu labut nila? How would they feel if Iloilo City tells them to stop doing their own policies and plans? They should respect the independence of each local government unit,” Mabilog said.

Mabilog said they have carefully studied the project and heard both sides of the issue.

“They should not underestimate us because we are all elected officials. We have our own understanding and right now all we know is that we need power to spur our economy,” he added.

its not weird or something that would put ILOILO in particular at the forefront.
it's just our country's banking sector is among least affected

just like in some places in the world, the is hunger/starvation/famine while kita diri sa iloilo almost within a few minutes walk may mang inasal :lol: or any other restos or food in fact

or naga gyera sa iban nga lugar while sa smallville it's party all night long (though may trouble man)

besides our country's and city's participation in these finances even before this trouble can be considered negligible so trouble man sila we may still be in the "negligible side"

Yes i agree, we have enough supply of basic commodities. Inde dali dali ma aapektuhan, remember nga isa kita sa producer sang rice. Bisan gani mga mangunguma daw inde man apektado tungod sang maayo nga harvest subong. Kadto ka sa mga malls, daw wala lang gutom, kadto ka sa smallville halos puno sang tawo.

Coffee Break Valeria Now Open...

ara ko kahapon Coffee Break Gen Luna from 4pm-1230am, damu damu tawu, puno gid, laban bi ga tuluon te tamaby lang ko eh upod miga ko ky ga tuon siya ya kag dinner ko sa Fort Manokan, namit ila manok... hehe...:bash::lol:


hambal kahapon sang migo ko na ga ubra sa Amigo Hotel, ng backout man gd ang Starbucks pero ang ga bidding subong na coffee shop, Bluejay and Figaro, amu ma lang na hambal niya, regarding sa shops, wala pa gid siya idea kun anu ma open pero ang mall kunu ma open last week of October or November..:)


para sakon ready na ang Iloilo for Starbucks, basta ang sa Rob tuod gid na didto sila tani ky my mga shops ng close dayun ng re open man and amu mana hambal sng mga tawu pa libot da galing nag backout man...:)

ready na guid man ang iloilo for starbucks migs.. daw damo naman daan ang coffee drinkers sang iloilo and they learned to drink it in style too.. let's just hope, everything will go ahead as planned for starbucks, iloilo :)

Coffee Break Valeria Now Open...

ara ko kahapon Coffee Break Gen Luna from 4pm-1230am, damu damu tawu, puno gid, laban bi ga tuluon te tamaby lang ko eh upod miga ko ky ga tuon siya ya kag dinner ko sa Fort Manokan, namit ila manok... hehe...:bash::lol:


hambal kahapon sang migo ko na ga ubra sa Amigo Hotel, ng backout man gd ang Starbucks pero ang ga bidding subong na coffee shop, Bluejay and Figaro, amu ma lang na hambal niya, regarding sa shops, wala pa gid siya idea kun anu ma open pero ang mall kunu ma open last week of October or November..:)


para sakon ready na ang Iloilo for Starbucks, basta ang sa Rob tuod gid na didto sila tani ky my mga shops ng close dayun ng re open man and amu mana hambal sng mga tawu pa libot da galing nag backout man...:)

May nag open na kuno nga resto sa Avenue? Ano ang updates sang Waterpark kag Ice bar? Mas maayo kon sa smallville na lang SB kag kon mag fully develop na ang Boulevard, mas maayo pa gid kon along river sya.

what's your reaction to this? another symptom of filipino "crab mentality"? hahaha :lol: these leaders should learn to promote the interest of the filipino people as a whole and not the other way around.. i was surprised that governor nava, was one of the signatories. :nuts:

STOP ANTIQUE COAL MINE FIRST
Iloilo City leaders tell Antique Gov. Perez
October 11, 2008

By Francis Allan L. Angelo


Antonio
OTHER local government officials must respect the Iloilo City government and the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) for allowing the construction of the proposed coal-fired power plant in LaPaz district.

This was the reaction of city officials to a report that five Western Visayas governors signed a position paper urging the DENR to withdraw the environmental compliance certificate issued to project proponent Global Business Power Corp. (GBPC).

Iloilo City officials were one in saying that their counterparts in other provinces should observe inter-local government unit courtesy in this issue.

Iloilo City Mayor Jerry Treñas said he did not even comment on the geothermal power plant expansion project in Negros Occidental, which is also being opposed by environmentalists, even if it will mean additional sources of cheap and reliable energy for the region.

“Negros is lucky because they have geothermal. We don’t have anything here. What if we tell Negrenses to stop the expansion because it will destroy the forest? What if we tell Governor Perez to stop coal mining in Semirara, how would she feel? It doesn’t make sense” he added.

Treñas said the city needs the project to bring in more investors and employment to Ilonggos.

“We need it badly. We have seen the renewed interest and confidence of investors in the business processes outsourcing upon learning that the power plant will be constructed,” Treñas said.

The mayor said other LGUs should respect Iloilo City “because this is our need and we know what we want.”

“They should not undermine us because we studied everything carefully. We are growing very fast and we need power. Our growth rate is even higher than the national average,” Treñas said.

Treñas said he was also surprised because Governor Nava signed the position paper “when we are partners in the Metro Iloilo Guimaras Development Council that will benefit from the project.”

Liga ng mga Barangay president Irene Ong said the five governors should “walk their talk” and refrain from commenting on the policies and programs of other LGUs.

Ong said that if coal is dangerous, “then Antique Governor Perez should (first) stop coal mining in Semirara Island.”

“That would be hypocritical of them if they oppose the plant but the mining continues. What do they know about the needs of the city?” Ong said.

The Liga is one of the staunch supporters of the project along with business groups and other sectors in the city.

Iloilo City Rep. Raul Gonzalez Jr. said the project will not only benefit the city and province of Iloilo but the entire island of Panay.

Gonzalez said other provinces should support the coal-fired power plant project “if they want the region to develop.”

“This (project) is something the city needs for development. The project will result in lower power rates aside from stable and reliable source of electricity. This particular project is good for one generation,” Gonzalez said.

Gonzalez also emphasized that other LGUs “have nothing to do with issues in the city” and they should not underestimate the intelligence of Iloilo City officials.

“We don’t question the initiatives of other LUGs in their own jurisdictions. This is basic courtesy to another LGU. If other provinces are concerned with the environment, maalam man ang atun city officials and they know how to address these concerns,” he added.

Iloilo City Vice Mayor Jed Patrick said the governors should refrain from interfering from the affairs of the city and dictating its direction.

“Anu labut nila? How would they feel if Iloilo City tells them to stop doing their own policies and plans? They should respect the independence of each local government unit,” Mabilog said.

Mabilog said they have carefully studied the project and heard both sides of the issue.

“They should not underestimate us because we are all elected officials. We have our own understanding and right now all we know is that we need power to spur our economy,” he added.



the author is the governor of antique na naman...hay ka bwi__t klase tigulang :ohno: hilabtera. na ano na siya man? last time gusto niya man nga islan ang name sang iloilo airport and now ang coal power plant naman?


:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:

^^i hope man... notice ko my mga movements sa sm city iloilo sa sulod sa my surplus ayun, my nag transfer na shop sa piyak dayun ang isa nag transfer ma lang sa higad sang original place niya, basta daku ang vacant na lugar na gin halinan, i just hope another shop ma open or hi end tani ky mostly kun hi end na shops daku na lugar ila gina kuha...:)

May nag open na kuno nga resto sa Avenue? Ano ang updates sang Waterpark kag Ice bar? Mas maayo kon sa smallville na lang SB kag kon mag fully develop na ang Boulevard, mas maayo pa gid kon along river sya.


oo "Bauhinian, A Filipino Cusine" basta amu na ang ngalan kg hambal sng waiter ka gabeh na taga CB open na kunu... wala gid ko kapa lapit sa Smallville subong na week pero labay lang kag second floor na ang gina himu na building sa likod MO2...:)

what's your reaction to this? another symptom of filipino "crab mentality"? hahaha :lol: these leaders should learn to promote the interest of the filipino people as a whole and not the other way around.. i was surprised that governor nava, was one of the signatories. :nuts:

STOP ANTIQUE COAL MINE FIRST
Iloilo City leaders tell Antique Gov. Perez
October 11, 2008

By Francis Allan L. Angelo


Antonio
OTHER local government officials must respect the Iloilo City government and the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) for allowing the construction of the proposed coal-fired power plant in LaPaz district.

This was the reaction of city officials to a report that five Western Visayas governors signed a position paper urging the DENR to withdraw the environmental compliance certificate issued to project proponent Global Business Power Corp. (GBPC).

Iloilo City officials were one in saying that their counterparts in other provinces should observe inter-local government unit courtesy in this issue.

Iloilo City Mayor Jerry Treñas said he did not even comment on the geothermal power plant expansion project in Negros Occidental, which is also being opposed by environmentalists, even if it will mean additional sources of cheap and reliable energy for the region.

“Negros is lucky because they have geothermal. We don’t have anything here. What if we tell Negrenses to stop the expansion because it will destroy the forest? What if we tell Governor Perez to stop coal mining in Semirara, how would she feel? It doesn’t make sense” he added.

Treñas said the city needs the project to bring in more investors and employment to Ilonggos.

“We need it badly. We have seen the renewed interest and confidence of investors in the business processes outsourcing upon learning that the power plant will be constructed,” Treñas said.

The mayor said other LGUs should respect Iloilo City “because this is our need and we know what we want.”

“They should not undermine us because we studied everything carefully. We are growing very fast and we need power. Our growth rate is even higher than the national average,” Treñas said.

Treñas said he was also surprised because Governor Nava signed the position paper “when we are partners in the Metro Iloilo Guimaras Development Council that will benefit from the project.”

Liga ng mga Barangay president Irene Ong said the five governors should “walk their talk” and refrain from commenting on the policies and programs of other LGUs.

Ong said that if coal is dangerous, “then Antique Governor Perez should (first) stop coal mining in Semirara Island.”

“That would be hypocritical of them if they oppose the plant but the mining continues. What do they know about the needs of the city?” Ong said.

The Liga is one of the staunch supporters of the project along with business groups and other sectors in the city.

Iloilo City Rep. Raul Gonzalez Jr. said the project will not only benefit the city and province of Iloilo but the entire island of Panay.

Gonzalez said other provinces should support the coal-fired power plant project “if they want the region to develop.”

“This (project) is something the city needs for development. The project will result in lower power rates aside from stable and reliable source of electricity. This particular project is good for one generation,” Gonzalez said.

Gonzalez also emphasized that other LGUs “have nothing to do with issues in the city” and they should not underestimate the intelligence of Iloilo City officials.

“We don’t question the initiatives of other LUGs in their own jurisdictions. This is basic courtesy to another LGU. If other provinces are concerned with the environment, maalam man ang atun city officials and they know how to address these concerns,” he added.

Iloilo City Vice Mayor Jed Patrick said the governors should refrain from interfering from the affairs of the city and dictating its direction.

“Anu labut nila? How would they feel if Iloilo City tells them to stop doing their own policies and plans? They should respect the independence of each local government unit,” Mabilog said.

Mabilog said they have carefully studied the project and heard both sides of the issue.

“They should not underestimate us because we are all elected officials. We have our own understanding and right now all we know is that we need power to spur our economy,” he added.

Si Perez nga ina halin pa ina sang una pasaway ya. Ngaa ga pahilabot gid na sya man. Sya man na nag oppose sang una kon ano ipa ngalan sa Airport sa Sta Barbara. Permi ko lang nina batian sa Bombo ngalan ya, no 1 sa opposition. :ohno::bash:

oo "Bauhinian, A Filipino Cusine" basta amu na ang ngalan kg hambal sng waiter ka gabeh na taga CB open na kunu... wala gid ko kapa lapit sa Smallville subong na week pero labay lang kag second floor na ang gina himu na building sa likod MO2...:)
Wow hasta na second floor gali? Ano plano ni Ong sa building nga ina man? Bati ko daw himuon nga ala Embassy. Grabi pag expand sang MO2 sa Iloilo ba. MO2 complex na gid na ya. Amo lang gid ni ipa bugal sang mga taga Iloilo sa iban kay SOlid gid ang night life dira, hambal gani sang friend sang gf ko nga taga davao daw small quezon kuno ang smallville kay ka modern sang mga structure. Sang una lapta lapta ang mga night life subong ara na sa isa ka lugar kag class pa ang dating, inde na kinahanglan mag kadto pa sa kon diin nga buho kon tak an ka sa isa ka lugar. Amo na ang maayo organize na ang iloilo. Kon gusto mo kaon kg malinong kadto ka sa Delgado kg Valeria, kay didto maayo ang ambiance. :banana::banana::banana:

^^i hope man... notice ko my mga movements sa sm city iloilo sa sulod sa my surplus ayun, my nag transfer na shop sa piyak dayun ang isa nag transfer ma lang sa higad sang original place niya, basta daku ang vacant na lugar na gin halinan, i just hope another shop ma open or hi end tani ky mostly kun hi end na shops daku na lugar ila gina kuha...:)
Close naman gali ang cinema 1,2,3,4 sa Sm city kay under renovation naman. Kanami sang ila bag-o nga flooring, siguro subong tapos na. Daw bag-o lang nag open ang Sm tungod sang ila renovation.:)

Hypocrisy
Francis Allan Angelo
RONIN

GOVERNMENT officials should learn to be consistent with their words and actions lest they will be labeled hypocrites.

And the governors who signed a position paper against the construction of the coal-fired power plant in LaPaz, Iloilo are in danger of being labeled as such.

Of the five governors who signed the position (which I suppose is a last-ditch effort of anti-coal forces that have been discredited by the Iloilo community), Salvacion Perez of Antique sticks out like a sore thumb.

This lady governor, who was transformed overnight into an environmentalist and advocate of renewable energy sources after learning that a hydropower venture will enter their province, actually benefits from coal.

Yes, Perez is shouting to high heavens, “No to coal!” But right in her backyard, coal mining is a burgeoning business.

In fact, DM Consunji, Inc., which operates coal-mining activities in Semirara Island, Antique, is the number one taxpayer of Antique. This means that Antiqueños get to build new roads, hospitals and schools thanks to revenues from the Semirara coal mine.

Coal from Antique is burned in other power plants in the country which produce cheap and stable electricity. It is also being exported to other countries. Businesses in these areas are burgeoning and people get employed.

Antique, on the other hand, is still a backwater province thanks but no thanks to the bickering of their political leaders including Perez herself.

Perez is concerned that Panay and the rest of Region 6 will be polluted if the coal plant operates more or less two years from now. But she is not concerned with the safety of other communities running on power produced by Semirara coal.

Iloilo City has been regaining investors’ confidence after the groundbreaking of the coal-fired power plant project. The latest in the list of interested investors is Ayala Corp. which plans to build a business processes outsourcing facility in the city.

Perez and the rest of the governors want to stymie Iloilo City’s development by stopping the project. But she does not lift a finger against coal mining in her own province because she stands to lose a lot of money.

Maybe she wants the city to draw electricity from her hydropower plant which might dry out during summertime.

Worse, the position paper of Perez and the other governors (except Iloilo’s Niel Tupas Sr.) undermines the capability of the majority of Ilonggos to protect the environment while striving for progress.

Maybe Perez thinks we are dumb because we approved the coal plant project without scrutinizing its perceived effects on the environment and human health. But in the words of Iloilo City Rep. Raul Gonzalez Jr., these governors should not underestimate Ilonggos because this issue was thoroughly debated and studied by local and national officials.

Perez should first stop coal mining operations in her province before she opposes coal-fired power plants in Iloilo. If she fails to do so, I’ll be tempted to call her a hypocrite.

Lucky for Negros Occidental because they have geothermal power sources but some Negrenses are opposing its expansion for fear of destroying Mt. Kanlaon. Just the same, Panay needs its own inland baseload power plant.

Iloilo, which has no indigenous energy sources and can actually benefit from the geothermal expansion project, did not comment for or against the expansion project. Ilonggo leaders kept their peace out of courtesy to other local government units. They should afford the same to Ilonggos because we don’t invade their respective jurisdictions.

But do these governors really know the needs of Iloilo City? Do they know that we need ample and cheap electricity to keep our businesses running and employ more Ilonggos? Are they aware that the progress of Iloilo will mean development cascading to their own jurisdictions?

When Cebu expanded its coal-fired power plant, not one among the local officials of Region 7 raised hell. They know that the project is safe and will usher in development. Cardinal Ricardo Vidal was wise enough not to raise much fuzz on the project knowing that the clergy has no business dabbling in secular matters.

This position letter against the coal-fired power plant might be another case of crab-mentality.

If other provinces want to languish in darkness, please spare Iloilo City because we already see the light at the end of the tunnel.

source: The Daily Guardian ILOILO (http://thedailyguardian.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9951&Itemid=53)

^^^^ totally AGREE. Why would other provinces of the region dictate us of what we need to do and what we need to improve. This is a classic form of Filipinos' crab mentality. To say the least, the Province of Antique (governor), with the main industry of coal has been the one leading the quest.

As for me, this is unacceptable for Iloilo and Ilonggos to be dictated by these so called crabs. If ever we stop the construction, then it will be us "ILONGGOS" who will decide the fate of the plant.

For Iloilo City officials to call Perez a hypocrite is just apt and well-deserved. We would loved to support Antique and its development, and so the rest of the region BUT with this kind of attitude they are showing us Ilonggos, then it's another story to make in the days to come. We never bothered them what projects they want for their provinces BUT why would they want to get involve in the city's affair? Are they nuts? What are they hoping to get from this one? A minute support from anti-coal lobbyists?

Also, I wonder why Nava of Guimaras signed the petition as well. Trenas is right when he says, Nava is part of MIGEDC, which highly support and has been consulted with the coal plant. Why there's a sudden change of windblow? Maybe this could be a lesson for Iloilo City, MIG and Iloilo Province as a whole. This is something that Trenas needs to assess and be mindful of. I hailed Tupas for its stand and knows his jurisdiction.

Again, a great lesson for us ILONGGOS.

Si Perez nga ina halin pa ina sang una pasaway ya. Ngaa ga pahilabot gid na sya man. Sya man na nag oppose sang una kon ano ipa ngalan sa Airport sa Sta Barbara. Permi ko lang nina batian sa Bombo ngalan ya, no 1 sa opposition. :ohno::bash:

As if she needs to say something. One thing I learned from Perez a a nd other governors is why are they meddling with Iloilo projects, decisions, etc.

Remind me, if ever we voted them last election or what?

I never knew that Iloilo City has been run by Governors of other Western Visayas provinces including Iloilo itself. Iloilo City is by all means independent with other provinces so maybe they know where the boundary is.

It's a big insult in our part as Ilonggos if we let these people from other corners of the region run our very own city. Though Iloilo City is the regional capital, it does not mean that all other provinces could meddle in all its affairs.

Perez should start looking at her province, and make good laws before meddling with us in Iloilo and so with other governors. No wonder people in Antique do not want to go back and live there cos of derailed mind of their governor. Such a hypocrite indeed ... in all sense of the word.

^^ A great lesson indeed. Its not bad to source out renewable energy sources as well but out of courtesy, why don't they STFU?! Mind their own businesses because its not just for Iloilo City that would bring progress because of this.

I know their concern with the environment's cause but something has got to give in the name of progress, something has to be compromised. Geothermal energy in Negros has also to "damage" several portions of forest in order to create stable energy. Waay man ta nanghilabot sa ila nga desisyon kay kabalo man ta nga makabenepisyo man kita sa Panay sa enerhiya halin sa Negros kag sa Leyte!

I laud Cebu's leaders for their stand for progress. They have several coal power plants (and even have its own indigenous source) but I didn't heard any complain (or if there is, its minimal and doesn't make noise) not even the clergy which is lead by Jaime Cardinal Vidal...Cardinal na, indi lang arsobispo! I laud Iloilo City and Province's stand about this, good thing they are replicating the stand which Cebu did before. Sang pagpatukod ang mga coal power plants, nanghilabot ayhan ang mga gobernadores sa Katungaang Kabisay-an?

Of course not to damage the environment also, pero ang daw ginapagwa sang mga gobernadores daw kita mga Ilonggo mango sa aton nga ginhimu kag desisyon. Gintuonan ni sing maayo kag indi lang ni basta basta.

But again, something has got to give. Europe passed being dirty during the Industrial Revolution and now look at them! Look at their civilization!

And as for Al Gore, he did supported "clean-coal technology."

Hay, Pilipinas....land of the hypocrites and crabs! :bash: :bash:

the author is the governor of antique na naman...hay ka bwi__t klase tigulang :ohno: hilabtera. na ano na siya man? last time gusto niya man nga islan ang name sang iloilo airport and now ang coal power plant naman?


:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:
absolutely TRUE. She is more concerned with Iloilo City than her poorest province. We make her past with her controversial dip in renaming of Iloilo Airport into a Western Visayas Airport or Lopez Jaena Airport in the past, this time is a different subject na naman.

Imagine, siya taga-Antique, iya problemahon ang iya sang ciudad sang Iloilo? Indi ko masakyan iya gusto.

I think the city of Iloilo needs to lobby for a change of the region's RDC Chairman as she is not doing her job properly. She needs to be replaced before the region will become like Antique in terms of economy.

here we go again, wala gid na pulos si Perez, tani bala ang atun, atun, ang iya, iya lang bala...:ohno::bash:toink:lol:

Actually in fairness to Tiya'y Sally (nga ginbungguan ko last year accidentaly sa isa ka conference, hehe!!)
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her concern with the environment is noble....but she has to look also what's going on in her own backyard...coal mining. If her intention is indeed genuine, therefore she has to stop the coal mining at Semirara, which is the source of the coal powered plants. Without coal, there would be no coal plants.

^^ A great lesson indeed. Its not bad to source out renewable energy sources as well but out of courtesy, why don't they STFU?! Mind their own businesses because its not just for Iloilo City that would bring progress because of this.

I know their concern with the environment's cause but something has got to give in the name of progress, something has to be compromised. Geothermal energy in Negros has also to "damage" several portions of forest in order to create stable energy. Waay man ta nanghilabot sa ila nga desisyon kay kabalo man ta nga makabenepisyo man kita sa Panay sa enerhiya halin sa Negros kag sa Leyte!

I laud Cebu's leaders for their stand for progress. They have several coal power plants (and even have its own indigenous source) but I didn't heard any complain (or if there is, its minimal and doesn't make noise) not even the clergy which is lead by Jaime Cardinal Vidal...Cardinal na, indi lang arsobispo! I laud Iloilo City and Province's stand about this, good thing they are replicating the stand which Cebu did before. Sang pagpatukod ang mga coal power plants, nanghilabot ayhan ang mga gobernadores sa Katungaang Kabisay-an?

Of course not to damage the environment also, pero ang daw ginapagwa sang mga gobernadores daw kita mga Ilonggo mango sa aton nga ginhimu kag desisyon. Gintuonan ni sing maayo kag indi lang ni basta basta.

But again, something has got to give. Europe passed being dirty during the Industrial Revolution and now look at them! Look at their civilization!

And as for Al Gore, he did supported "clean-coal technology."

Hay, Pilipinas....land of the hypocrites and crabs! :bash: :bash:
A big slap in our face indeed ILONGGOS!

It's an indirect way of saying that we did a poor decision in the coal plant's approval. It's ridiculous!

And if ever this will not be addressed properly, we in ILOILO and ILOILO CITY will always live in a cloud of doubts regarding our situation because in any given time, people of other provinces will dip their hands in our projects and affairs. We might as well have a Western Visayas Union to run for the city of Iloilo.

Perez is really mad. She's a cuckoo for doing such appeal.

Actually in fairness to Tiya'y Sally (nga ginbungguan ko last year accidentaly sa isa ka conference, hehe!!)
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her concern with the environment is noble....but she has to look also what's going on in her own backyard...coal mining. If her intention is indeed genuine, therefore she has to stop the coal mining at Semirara, which is the source of the coal powered plants. Without coal, there would be no coal plants.
and Antique will end up poorer than poor.

Ipokrita gid tuod nga tigulang.

Bacause she knows that there will be a hydro plant nga ipatindog sa Antique, gusto niya blockingan ang iya sang Iloilo City para didto kita makuha sa ila sang aton enerhiya. Simple man lang siya. Pero may itom siya nga tintuyo. I'm glad people pick this up early pa lang. And I hailed media of Iloilo featuring this news. Without them basi wala lang ta kabalo kung ngaa wala madayon ang coal plant. Now, everyone is vigilant. We know kung sin-o ang "sawa" sa aton di. When things are triggered, the real score, identity and colour really manifested. This is such a classic example of it.

here we go again, wala gid na pulos si Perez, tani bala ang atun, atun, ang iya, iya lang bala...:ohno::bash:toink:lol:

now, you can't trust the face of the old lady.

Wow hasta na second floor gali? Ano plano ni Ong sa building nga ina man? Bati ko daw himuon nga ala Embassy. Grabi pag expand sang MO2 sa Iloilo ba. MO2 complex na gid na ya. Amo lang gid ni ipa bugal sang mga taga Iloilo sa iban kay SOlid gid ang night life dira, hambal gani sang friend sang gf ko nga taga davao daw small quezon kuno ang smallville kay ka modern sang mga structure. Sang una lapta lapta ang mga night life subong ara na sa isa ka lugar kag class pa ang dating, inde na kinahanglan mag kadto pa sa kon diin nga buho kon tak an ka sa isa ka lugar. Amo na ang maayo organize na ang iloilo. Kon gusto mo kaon kg malinong kadto ka sa Delgado kg Valeria, kay didto maayo ang ambiance. :banana::banana::banana:

is MO2 expanding? Daw last year man lang sila nag-expand sang ila annex? Any more expansion ongoing in Smallville area?

DPWH completes repair of E. Marcos Bridge

THE Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) finally opened to traffic the E. Marcos Bridge (Amerang Bridge) in Maasin, Iloilo which was was damaged by typhoon Frank on June 21, 2008.

The bridge is an RCDG Bridge that has a total length of 180 meters. Six of its 12 spans were totally damaged by the flashflood spawned by typhoon Frank.
The bridge is very vital as it connects the towns of Maasin, Cabatuan, Sta. Barbara, and Pavia to Iloilo City.

It is also part of the major road from Alimodian to the new Iloilo Airport in Cabatuan.

The completion of the bridge ended the difficulty experienced by the public who took a longer alternate route to reach Iloilo City.

source: The Daily Guardian ILOILO (http://thedailyguardian.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9935&Itemid=2)

is MO2 expanding? Daw last year man lang sila nag-expand sang ila annex? Any more expansion ongoing in Smallville area?
Yup nag expand pa gid sila sa ila daku nga bakante sa likod, expansion sang ila convention center, waterpark kag MO2 ice bar.

^^^^ that's nice to hear. Three expansions/additions in one go:

a. convention center (capacity?)

b. water park (what could be the possible structures inside the park once finished?)

c. Ice Bar (any idea how it'll look like?)

:banana::banana::banana:

Financial experts to brief bizmen on impact of US economic woes
By Maricar M. Calubiran

Local businessmen will have a glimpse of the impact of the financial crisis in the United States in the region in today's economic briefing initiated by the Iloilo Business Club (IBC).

Ma. Victoria Lara, executive director of the IBC, said Dr. Emilio Antonio, Jr. from the University of Asia and the Pacific and famous financial expert Francisco Colayco, author of the bestseller book, Wealth Within Your Reach Series, will talk on financial possibilities.

The concerns of the business sector is expected to be addressed with the insights coming from the financial experts. The economic briefing will also be attended by regional directors of the National Economic Development Authority, Ro-Ann Bacal; Agriculture, Larry Nacionales; Tourism, Edwin Trompeta; Trade and Industry, Dominic Abad; Labor and Employment, Aida Estabillo; Public Works and Highways, Rolando Asis and Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas, Job Nepomuceno.

Lara said the seven regional directors will provide the local business community, the academe, local government units, civic clubs and professional organizations with information on the regional situationer. The economic briefing will center on the theme "Challenging Times, Discovering Opportunities."

The proximity of the topic in the present financial crisis in the US will give the attendees insights on the impact and same time on the possible opportunities it will bring. The economic briefing will be held at the Sunset Terrace of the Grand Ballroom of Hotel del Rio.

source: The News Today (http://thenewstoday.info/2008/10/10/financial.experts.to.brief.bizmen.on.impact.of.us.economic.woes.html)

^^^^ very apt and timely for Iloilo and the region. I hope our officials, etc could learn something from this. In the same way, they could help implement strategies that could benefit us in terms of crisis.

^^^^ that's nice to hear. Three expansions/additions in one go:

a. convention center (capacity?)

b. water park (what could be the possible structures inside the park once finished?)

c. Ice Bar (any idea how it'll look like?)

:banana::banana::banana:

Ice Bar is just like an ordinary bar same as MO2 aquarium, but the area is thrice the size of the MO2 aquarium bar. Well see pag nag open na sila this end of November. Waterpark is a small park inside the Complex with waterfalls and fountains sorrounded with tables and chairs, good for coffee and tambayan.

absolutely TRUE. She is more concerned with Iloilo City than her poorest province. We make her past with her controversial dip in renaming of Iloilo Airport into a Western Visayas Airport or Lopez Jaena Airport in the past, this time is a different subject na naman.

Imagine, siya taga-Antique, iya problemahon ang iya sang ciudad sang Iloilo? Indi ko masakyan iya gusto.

I think the city of Iloilo needs to lobby for a change of the region's RDC Chairman as she is not doing her job properly. She needs to be replaced before the region will become like Antique in terms of economy.



SALVACION iya name pero doesnt concede sa iya true meaning.

she is the "salvacion" nga wala salvacion

Ice Bar is just like an ordinary bar same as MO2 aquarium, but the area is thrice the size of the MO2 aquarium bar. Well see pag nag open na sila this end of November. Waterpark is a small park inside the Complex with waterfalls and fountains sorrounded with tables and chairs, good for coffee and tambayan.
we have Ice Bar here in London so I may have different POV. Anyhow, I am looking forward for this Waterpark. I really, really like the idea. I hope they'll make it bigger, too. The idea of fountains and waterfalls just made me curious. It's kinda European in nature. I can't wait for these projects to finish. Thanks for the info, Collin.

SALVACION iya name pero doesnt concede sa iya true meaning.

she is the "salvacion" nga wala salvacion
somebody needs to put her foot in a proper shoe, I guess. She might be suffering of dementia when she thinks Antique is right in the midst of Iloilo City. Caprice!

nag kadto ko gina smallville, dako gali ang expansion sang MO2, bi ko didto lang ayun sa may punta gali asta pa di sa picture
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg212/steadyasweroll/10112008-1.jpg
Steak House di kuno ma open (Formerly Flow)
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until midnight ni ang shop kun fridays and saturdays...,
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Times Square Building & Mc Chicken sa side formerly Mundo Restaurant
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Coffee Break Gen Luna @ Night
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http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg212/steadyasweroll/10072008001-1.jpg

SALVACION iya name pero doesnt concede sa iya true meaning.

she is the "salvacion" nga wala salvacion

hahaha! :lol:

nag kadto ko gina smallville, dako gali ang expansion sang MO2, bi ko didto lang ayun sa may punta gali asta pa di sa picture
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg212/steadyasweroll/10112008-1.jpg
Steak House di kuno ma open (Formerly Flow)
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg212/steadyasweroll/10112008001-1.jpg

nice new pics from iloilo city.. thanks iloilo based forumers :banana:

Steak House di kuno ma open (Formerly Flow)
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg212/steadyasweroll/10112008001-1.jpg

I think ang steak house nga na iya sang al dente..kay daw nakta ko man ang media launching nila kgpon sa Robinsons..IM BACk...!:banana::banana:

ang Coffee Braek sa Valeria in front of SM Delgado Annex..nag-open na kgpon...hehehe..ang site nga gn-ocupy gli nila..formerly Oxens nga cafe..hehehe:cheers:

until midnight ni ang shop kun fridays and saturdays...,
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http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg212/steadyasweroll/10112008006-1.jpg

@steady..swak man ang prices??:lol:

heehehee..im planning to buy a second hand camera..sin-o may ara???kay daw indi ko katiis nga wala ipost nga picz...hehehe..just tell me kung mayara available and cheap lang...:lol::lol:

Hypocrisy
Francis Allan Angelo
RONIN

GOVERNMENT officials should learn to be consistent with their words and actions lest they will be labeled hypocrites.

And the governors who signed a position paper against the construction of the coal-fired power plant in LaPaz, Iloilo are in danger of being labeled as such.

Of the five governors who signed the position (which I suppose is a last-ditch effort of anti-coal forces that have been discredited by the Iloilo community), Salvacion Perez of Antique sticks out like a sore thumb.

This lady governor, who was transformed overnight into an environmentalist and advocate of renewable energy sources after learning that a hydropower venture will enter their province, actually benefits from coal.

Yes, Perez is shouting to high heavens, “No to coal!” But right in her backyard, coal mining is a burgeoning business.

In fact, DM Consunji, Inc., which operates coal-mining activities in Semirara Island, Antique, is the number one taxpayer of Antique. This means that Antiqueños get to build new roads, hospitals and schools thanks to revenues from the Semirara coal mine.

Coal from Antique is burned in other power plants in the country which produce cheap and stable electricity. It is also being exported to other countries. Businesses in these areas are burgeoning and people get employed.

Antique, on the other hand, is still a backwater province thanks but no thanks to the bickering of their political leaders including Perez herself.

Perez is concerned that Panay and the rest of Region 6 will be polluted if the coal plant operates more or less two years from now. But she is not concerned with the safety of other communities running on power produced by Semirara coal.

Iloilo City has been regaining investors’ confidence after the groundbreaking of the coal-fired power plant project. The latest in the list of interested investors is Ayala Corp. which plans to build a business processes outsourcing facility in the city.

Perez and the rest of the governors want to stymie Iloilo City’s development by stopping the project. But she does not lift a finger against coal mining in her own province because she stands to lose a lot of money.

Maybe she wants the city to draw electricity from her hydropower plant which might dry out during summertime.

Worse, the position paper of Perez and the other governors (except Iloilo’s Niel Tupas Sr.) undermines the capability of the majority of Ilonggos to protect the environment while striving for progress.

Maybe Perez thinks we are dumb because we approved the coal plant project without scrutinizing its perceived effects on the environment and human health. But in the words of Iloilo City Rep. Raul Gonzalez Jr., these governors should not underestimate Ilonggos because this issue was thoroughly debated and studied by local and national officials.

Perez should first stop coal mining operations in her province before she opposes coal-fired power plants in Iloilo. If she fails to do so, I’ll be tempted to call her a hypocrite.

Lucky for Negros Occidental because they have geothermal power sources but some Negrenses are opposing its expansion for fear of destroying Mt. Kanlaon. Just the same, Panay needs its own inland baseload power plant.

Iloilo, which has no indigenous energy sources and can actually benefit from the geothermal expansion project, did not comment for or against the expansion project. Ilonggo leaders kept their peace out of courtesy to other local government units. They should afford the same to Ilonggos because we don’t invade their respective jurisdictions.

But do these governors really know the needs of Iloilo City? Do they know that we need ample and cheap electricity to keep our businesses running and employ more Ilonggos? Are they aware that the progress of Iloilo will mean development cascading to their own jurisdictions?

When Cebu expanded its coal-fired power plant, not one among the local officials of Region 7 raised hell. They know that the project is safe and will usher in development. Cardinal Ricardo Vidal was wise enough not to raise much fuzz on the project knowing that the clergy has no business dabbling in secular matters.

This position letter against the coal-fired power plant might be another case of crab-mentality.

If other provinces want to languish in darkness, please spare Iloilo City because we already see the light at the end of the tunnel.

source: The Daily Guardian ILOILO (http://thedailyguardian.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9951&Itemid=53)

^^^^ totally AGREE. Why would other provinces of the region dictate us of what we need to do and what we need to improve. This is a classic form of Filipinos' crab mentality. To say the least, the Province of Antique (governor), with the main industry of coal has been the one leading the quest.

As for me, this is unacceptable for Iloilo and Ilonggos to be dictated by these so called crabs. If ever we stop the construction, then it will be us "ILONGGOS" who will decide the fate of the plant.

For Iloilo City officials to call Perez a hypocrite is just apt and well-deserved. We would loved to support Antique and its development, and so the rest of the region BUT with this kind of attitude they are showing us Ilonggos, then it's another story to make in the days to come. We never bothered them what projects they want for their provinces BUT why would they want to get involve in the city's affair? Are they nuts? What are they hoping to get from this one? A minute support from anti-coal lobbyists?

Also, I wonder why Nava of Guimaras signed the petition as well. Trenas is right when he says, Nava is part of MIGEDC, which highly support and has been consulted with the coal plant. Why there's a sudden change of windblow? Maybe this could be a lesson for Iloilo City, MIG and Iloilo Province as a whole. This is something that Trenas needs to assess and be mindful of. I hailed Tupas for its stand and knows his jurisdiction.

Again, a great lesson for us ILONGGOS.

those governors who signed that petition are all hypocrites and a bunch of losers.. why on earth are these so-called "instant" environmentalist interfere with iloilo's decisions? are they really that concerned with the environment or or are these people just sour losers bent on hindering iloilo's progress? if this governor from antique is really concerned with the environment, why is semirara coal mining still in operation? maybe she should clean her own backyard first before poking in other LGU's business? these bunch of losers are anti-progress. instead of inter-provincial cooperation for the common good of all, they resorted to this "crab mentality" behaviour in the guise of righteousness. these people really underestimated us ilonggos. maybe they think we are idiots or morons and that we need their "divine guidance" for our own good.. gracious me! these people cant even uplift the lives of their constituents but still they try to lecture us on how to do things that dont affect them anyway. they failed to see that all people of panay will benefit in iloilo's progress and also the people of negros.. to the officials of iloilo and iloilo city, im proud that you stood firm on your decisions. after all, we have nothing to lose.. even the most advanced nations used coal to propel their society to the industrial age? so why cant we? unless these stupid, bunch of losers wanted to bring us development by using carabaos and stones for the rest of our lives.. :nuts:

Steak House di kuno ma open (Formerly Flow)


I think ang steak house nga na iya sang al dente..kay daw nakta ko man ang media launching nila kgpon sa Robinsons..IM BACk...!:banana::banana:

hehehe welcome back migs! indi namit ang steak ang al dente. gusto pa nila mag take two? grabe nga fighting spirit sang al dente ba hehehe :lol:

until midnight ni ang shop kun fridays and saturdays...,
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http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg212/steadyasweroll/10112008006-1.jpg


guina baligya man na babaye sa picture migs? amu lang na ya ang baklon ko ah.. hahaha :lol:

hahaha..wla pa man ko katilaw ah..poh mas namit ang sa bourbon nga steak..hehhe:lol:

nag kadto ko gina smallville, dako gali ang expansion sang MO2, bi ko didto lang ayun sa may punta gali asta pa di sa picture
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg212/steadyasweroll/10112008-1.jpg
Steak House di kuno ma open (Formerly Flow)
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg212/steadyasweroll/10112008001-1.jpg


mayong gab.i Iloilo


kanami sang Smallville.....:):

Daw kanami sang atmosphere,,,


nice pix

nag kadto ko gina smallville, dako gali ang expansion sang MO2, bi ko didto lang ayun sa may punta gali asta pa di sa picture
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg212/steadyasweroll/10112008-1.jpg
Steak House di kuno ma open (Formerly Flow)
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg212/steadyasweroll/10112008001-1.jpg
wow amo na ine ang expansion sang mo2? mga december pa ina siguro matapos. Kanami na gid sang smallville:banana::banana::banana:

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KAPIDECO, Diversion Road and Megaworld.

good evening iloilo! i hope somebody here could get a chance to photograph the florete tower!

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our banking system in the philippines is not that affected as long as our banks didnt invest big on those US financial institutions that were bailed-out by the US government.. that's how i see it :)

yup. the phil banking system is not that big enough to be directly "hit" by the world financial crisis. we may be indirectly hit pero very negligible.
just like during the asian financial crisis, we were one of the less affected since obviously our richer neighbours were the ones more exposed.

^^

Speaking of which... hows the update on the proposed convention center by the Provincial Capitol.

Since Mayor Jerry declared that more infra is needed for BPO... hows the update right now on the proposed IT Park by Provincial Capitol... now is the right to start building this... then once this is operational sige sige na ang kita sini... pwede na ipadayon ang Convention Center. :)

the provincial ceonvention center project is still on the clearing stage, as of the last news. physical and maybe legal clearings pa. hopefully this convention center project will also house some offices and hostel to make this building still alive/usabale during non-convention days :lol: plus the fact that it will compete with the proposed convention center sang megaworld.

re: it park, daw wala man balita though maybe full swing ina when the nabitasan complex will be in full swing. side-dy-side development

^^
Yes, CB and SB has different target markets.
Basi sa Robi na gid man ma open ang SB. hmm :)
or Amigo?

i was expecting nga by december pero daw indi gid madayon.kung sa robinson's they should negotiate for the location vacated by vienna kaffeehaus

supposed to be didto near sm city.. it was supposed to be a stand-alone store. kso, as what our fellow forumer mentioned, nagka problema ang starbucks sa sm management.. so they have to relocate. the best tani kung didto guid nila guin butang sa sm, kay damu didto tao and lapit sya sa smallville.. but now, they have to thing other possible sites.. could be amigo also. future BPO building na and exactly a downtown area.. :banana:

actually both sm and smallville are ideal locations.even if these places have an SB branch im sure it will have their own crowd. the place vacated by pancake house would also be good pero ara sya sa sulod sang mall

^^nami guid man tani kung lapit sa SM city ang SB. but, will just wait and see where they will be located.

yup lets wait and see.at least we know COMING SOON na gid sya

ang akon assessment, if indi ang SB kag ang SM maka renegotiate.. daw sa amigo guid na ang tupa san SB.. didto ang second best option nila. daw alang alang man ang location sang robinsons.. :lol:

whichever mall/area hosts the first branch of SB. im sure makadto ang mga tawo dira for whatever reasons though hopefully i wont see people bringing some chicken mcdo meals inside SB for the sake of being there :lol:

BRIDGING THE GAP
Henry F. Funtecha, Ph.D.

Questions and puzzles regarding Ilonggo & Bisayan ethnic identity
The ethnic mix of people living in the Visayas today consists of the Boholanos, Cebuanos, Ilonggos and Warays. There is also a sprinkling of the so-called traditional communities like the Ati, Panay Bukidnon, Karol-anon and others. The Ilonggos are found in Panay and Negros Occidental, while the Warays inhabit Samar and some sections of Leyte. The question though is at what point of time did these people start calling themselves these various ethnic labels.

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Looking at documentary evidence, beginning with 1570, the Spaniards were already using Vizaya to refer to, at least, the inhabitants of Panay. The Povedano scripts of 1572 and 1578 also applied the name Vizaya to the people and language of Panay and Negros. ...

In more recent times, knowingly or unknowingly, the Cebuanos have expropriated the name Bisaya to refer only to them. The others are excluded from the label and are called as Ilonggos, Bol-anons (Boholanos) and Warays. Even in language, Cebuano has become synonymous with Bisaya while the others are Ilonggo (Hiligaynon and Kinaray-a), Binol-anon and Waray. This certainly needs correction and the Cebuanos have to undergo some kind of re-orientation.

As one can see, there are still many questions and puzzles on Ilonggo and Bisayan ethnic identity. More researches have to be done in order for the Ilonggo Bisaya to really understand who and what they are vis-a-vis the other Bisayan groups.

http://www.thenewstoday.info/2008/10/10/questions.and.puzzles.regarding.ilonggo.and.bisayan.ethnic.identity.html

I have already encountered this confusion with my Visayan identity.

In my younger years, I used to think that Visayan people are those living in the Visayas region. That I am a Bisaya and I eat Bisaya nga manok.

However, when I studied here in Manila, I observed that Bisaya relates to people who speaks Cebuano language. I even encountered people from Mindanao, who call themselves Bisaya. I felt like I was robbed with my identity. In addition to that, Manila culture stereotyped Bisaya as maids or houseboys. From then, I began to dissociate myself from being Bisaya. :ohno:

Coffee Break Valeria Now Open...

ara ko kahapon Coffee Break Gen Luna from 4pm-1230am, damu damu tawu, puno gid, laban bi ga tuluon te tamaby lang ko eh upod miga ko ky ga tuon siya ya kag dinner ko sa Fort Manokan, namit ila manok... hehe...:bash::lol:

hambal kahapon sang migo ko na ga ubra sa Amigo Hotel, ng backout man gd ang Starbucks pero ang ga bidding subong na coffee shop, Bluejay and Figaro, amu ma lang na hambal niya, regarding sa shops, wala pa gid siya idea kun anu ma open pero ang mall kunu ma open last week of October or November..:)

para sakon ready na ang Iloilo for Starbucks, basta ang sa Rob tuod gid na didto sila tani ky my mga shops ng close dayun ng re open man and amu mana hambal sng mga tawu pa libot da galing nag backout man...:)

* dasig ang COFFEEBREAK ba. i'm sure they are beating other cafes in that area esp sa amigo though maybe they will open another branch there. naga pakontes sa damo rbanches ang coffeebreak sa mang inasal :lol:

* maayo kay hamba mo NAMIT ang manok sang fort manukan. dira ak osunod makadto hehehe. have yu tried CRAMMERS CAFE? okay man?

* hopefully figaro can have a "permanent" branch unlike sa stall nila sa sm. they have a much better sweets selection compared iban nga coffeeshops. though i think pwede man sila mag coexist sang bluejay within amigo esp if the mall will have BPO's as main tenants

* yup ready na gid man kita. though some coffeeshopsshops have closed it doesn't mean that iloilo city residents cannot sustain them.

ready na guid man ang iloilo for starbucks migs.. daw damo naman daan ang coffee drinkers sang iloilo and they learned to drink it in style too.. let's just hope, everything will go ahead as planned for starbucks, iloilo :)

ang iban tambay man lang sa mga shops and not actual coffeedrinkers so ambiance play a good part on the coffeeshops survival.

May nag open na kuno nga resto sa Avenue? Ano ang updates sang Waterpark kag Ice bar? Mas maayo kon sa smallville na lang SB kag kon mag fully develop na ang Boulevard, mas maayo pa gid kon along river sya.
oo "Bauhinian, A Filipino Cusine" basta amu na ang ngalan kg hambal sng waiter ka gabeh na taga CB open na kunu... wala gid ko kapa lapit sa Smallville subong na week pero labay lang kag second floor na ang gina himu na building sa likod MO2...:)

abaw dasig mag open ba. few sundays ago daw walap ma nunod ang bauhinia tapos open na sya gali any reviews?

actually as porjected in a few years times the boardwalk and smallville will become on BIG entertainment center not only nightspot. and to think 2 CB branches are almost stine throw's away from each other yet they survive how much more kon magalapad na gid ang area.basi 1SB each sa smallville kag sa boardwalk.plus this area will also be part of a much bigger CBD to include megaworld and sm city :banana:

Wow hasta na second floor gali? Ano plano ni Ong sa building nga ina man? Bati ko daw himuon nga ala Embassy. Grabi pag expand sang MO2 sa Iloilo ba. MO2 complex na gid na ya. Amo lang gid ni ipa bugal sang mga taga Iloilo sa iban kay SOlid gid ang night life dira, hambal gani sang friend sang gf ko nga taga davao daw small quezon kuno ang smallville kay ka modern sang mga structure. Sang una lapta lapta ang mga night life subong ara na sa isa ka lugar kag class pa ang dating, inde na kinahanglan mag kadto pa sa kon diin nga buho kon tak an ka sa isa ka lugar. Amo na ang maayo organize na ang iloilo. Kon gusto mo kaon kg malinong kadto ka sa Delgado kg Valeria, kay didto maayo ang ambiance. :banana::banana::banana:

I have already encountered this confusion with my Visayan identity.

In my younger years, I used to think that Visayan people are those living in the Visayas region. That I am a Bisaya and I eat Bisaya nga manok.

However, when I studied here in Manila, I observed that Bisaya relates to people who speaks Cebuano language. I even encountered people from Mindanao, who call themselves Bisaya. I felt like I was robbed with my identity. In addition to that, Manila culture stereotyped Bisaya as maids or houseboys. From then, I began to dissociate myself from being Bisaya. :ohno:

When I worked in Manila, I always corrected those misinformed :lol: and now they know :lol:

Syempre how can my officemates ignore my pasalubong and my occasional pancit molo :lol:

Hypocrisy
Francis Allan Angelo
RONIN

GOVERNMENT officials should learn to be consistent with their words and actions lest they will be labeled hypocrites.
And the governors who signed a position paper against the construction of the coal-fired power plant in LaPaz, Iloilo are in danger of being labeled as such.

Of the five governors who signed the position (which I suppose is a last-ditch effort of anti-coal forces that have been discredited by the Iloilo community), Salvacion Perez of Antique sticks out like a sore thumb.

This lady governor, who was transformed overnight into an environmentalist and advocate of renewable energy sources after learning that a hydropower venture will enter their province, actually benefits from coal.

Yes, Perez is shouting to high heavens, “No to coal!” But right in her backyard, coal mining is a burgeoning business.

In fact, DM Consunji, Inc., which operates coal-mining activities in Semirara Island, Antique, is the number one taxpayer of Antique. This means that Antiqueños get to build new roads, hospitals and schools thanks to revenues from the Semirara coal mine.

Coal from Antique is burned in other power plants in the country which produce cheap and stable electricity. It is also being exported to other countries. Businesses in these areas are burgeoning and people get employed.

Antique, on the other hand, is still a backwater province thanks but no thanks to the bickering of their political leaders including Perez herself.

Perez is concerned that Panay and the rest of Region 6 will be polluted if the coal plant operates more or less two years from now. But she is not concerned with the safety of other communities running on power produced by Semirara coal.

Iloilo City has been regaining investors’ confidence after the groundbreaking of the coal-fired power plant project. The latest in the list of interested investors is Ayala Corp. which plans to build a business processes outsourcing facility in the city.

Perez and the rest of the governors want to stymie Iloilo City’s development by stopping the project. But she does not lift a finger against coal mining in her own province because she stands to lose a lot of money.

Maybe she wants the city to draw electricity from her hydropower plant which might dry out during summertime.

Worse, the position paper of Perez and the other governors (except Iloilo’s Niel Tupas Sr.) undermines the capability of the majority of Ilonggos to protect the environment while striving for progress.

Maybe Perez thinks we are dumb because we approved the coal plant project without scrutinizing its perceived effects on the environment and human health. But in the words of Iloilo City Rep. Raul Gonzalez Jr., these governors should not underestimate Ilonggos because this issue was thoroughly debated and studied by local and national officials.

Perez should first stop coal mining operations in her province before she opposes coal-fired power plants in Iloilo. If she fails to do so, I’ll be tempted to call her a hypocrite.

Lucky for Negros Occidental because they have geothermal power sources but some Negrenses are opposing its expansion for fear of destroying Mt. Kanlaon. Just the same, Panay needs its own inland baseload power plant.

Iloilo, which has no indigenous energy sources and can actually benefit from the geothermal expansion project, did not comment for or against the expansion project. Ilonggo leaders kept their peace out of courtesy to other local government units. They should afford the same to Ilonggos because we don’t invade their respective jurisdictions.

But do these governors really know the needs of Iloilo City? Do they know that we need ample and cheap electricity to keep our businesses running and employ more Ilonggos? Are they aware that the progress of Iloilo will mean development cascading to their own jurisdictions?

When Cebu expanded its coal-fired power plant, not one among the local officials of Region 7 raised hell. They know that the project is safe and will usher in development. Cardinal Ricardo Vidal was wise enough not to raise much fuzz on the project knowing that the clergy has no business dabbling in secular matters.

This position letter against the coal-fired power plant might be another case of crab-mentality.

If other provinces want to languish in darkness, please spare Iloilo City because we already see the light at the end of the tunnel.

source: The Daily Guardian ILOILO (http://thedailyguardian.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9951&Itemid=53)

^^^^ totally AGREE. Why would other provinces of the region dictate us of what we need to do and what we need to improve. This is a classic form of Filipinos' crab mentality. To say the least, the Province of Antique (governor), with the main industry of coal has been the one leading the quest.

As for me, this is unacceptable for Iloilo and Ilonggos to be dictated by these so called crabs. If ever we stop the construction, then it will be us "ILONGGOS" who will decide the fate of the plant.

For Iloilo City officials to call Perez a hypocrite is just apt and well-deserved. We would loved to support Antique and its development, and so the rest of the region BUT with this kind of attitude they are showing us Ilonggos, then it's another story to make in the days to come. We never bothered them what projects they want for their provinces BUT why would they want to get involve in the city's affair? Are they nuts? What are they hoping to get from this one? A minute support from anti-coal lobbyists?

Also, I wonder why Nava of Guimaras signed the petition as well. Trenas is right when he says, Nava is part of MIGEDC, which highly support and has been consulted with the coal plant. Why there's a sudden change of windblow? Maybe this could be a lesson for Iloilo City, MIG and Iloilo Province as a whole. This is something that Trenas needs to assess and be mindful of. I hailed Tupas for its stand and knows his jurisdiction.

Again, a great lesson for us ILONGGOS.

Ang mahambal ko lang. Ang kay Jerry kay Jerry. Kaluta lang inyo katol ah. I'm disapppointed with Nava... thats why MIDC was replaced with MIGEDC to include and improve his province which used to be a part of Iloilo.... what a shame! But still I have nothing against Guimaras... Just with the governor's actions. hay! Kalampay! :lol:

^^ A great lesson indeed. Its not bad to source out renewable energy sources as well but out of courtesy, why don't they STFU?! Mind their own businesses because its not just for Iloilo City that would bring progress because of this.

I know their concern with the environment's cause but something has got to give in the name of progress, something has to be compromised. Geothermal energy in Negros has also to "damage" several portions of forest in order to create stable energy. Waay man ta nanghilabot sa ila nga desisyon kay kabalo man ta nga makabenepisyo man kita sa Panay sa enerhiya halin sa Negros kag sa Leyte!

I laud Cebu's leaders for their stand for progress. They have several coal power plants (and even have its own indigenous source) but I didn't heard any complain (or if there is, its minimal and doesn't make noise) not even the clergy which is lead by Jaime Cardinal Vidal...Cardinal na, indi lang arsobispo! I laud Iloilo City and Province's stand about this, good thing they are replicating the stand which Cebu did before. Sang pagpatukod ang mga coal power plants, nanghilabot ayhan ang mga gobernadores sa Katungaang Kabisay-an?

Of course not to damage the environment also, pero ang daw ginapagwa sang mga gobernadores daw kita mga Ilonggo mango sa aton nga ginhimu kag desisyon. Gintuonan ni sing maayo kag indi lang ni basta basta.

But again, something has got to give. Europe passed being dirty during the Industrial Revolution and now look at them! Look at their civilization!

And as for Al Gore, he did supported "clean-coal technology."

Hay, Pilipinas....land of the hypocrites and crabs! :bash: :bash:

Me too Berns.. I'm proud of Tupas' Stand! :banana:

absolutely TRUE. She is more concerned with Iloilo City than her poorest province. We make her past with her controversial dip in renaming of Iloilo Airport into a Western Visayas Airport or Lopez Jaena Airport in the past, this time is a different subject na naman.

Imagine, siya taga-Antique, iya problemahon ang iya sang ciudad sang Iloilo? Indi ko masakyan iya gusto.

I think the city of Iloilo needs to lobby for a change of the region's RDC Chairman as she is not doing her job properly. She needs to be replaced before the region will become like Antique in terms of economy.

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Definitely Agree with you Space! :banana:

here we go again, wala gid na pulos si Perez, tani bala ang atun, atun, ang iya, iya lang bala...:ohno::bash:toink:lol:

Hambala pa! Tani ang iya na lang katol iya kaloton. Nugay siya panggarit-garit kay Jerry kag Raul... basi pa lang bla haw! :lol::bash:

those governors who signed that petition are all hypocrites and a bunch of losers.. why on earth are these so-called "instant" environmentalist interfere with iloilo's decisions? are they really that concerned with the environment or or are these people just sour losers bent on hindering iloilo's progress? if this governor from antique is really concerned with the environment, why is semirara coal mining still in operation? maybe she should clean her own backyard first before poking in other LGU's business? these bunch of losers are anti-progress. instead of inter-provincial cooperation for the common good of all, they resorted to this "crab mentality" behaviour in the guise of righteousness. these people really underestimated us ilonggos. maybe they think we are idiots or morons and that we need their "divine guidance" for our own good.. gracious me! these people cant even uplift the lives of their constituents but still they try to lecture us on how to do things that dont affect them anyway. they failed to see that all people of panay will benefit in iloilo's progress and also the people of negros.. to the officials of iloilo and iloilo city, im proud that you stood firm on your decisions. after all, we have nothing to lose.. even the most advanced nations used coal to propel their society to the industrial age? so why cant we? unless these stupid, bunch of losers wanted to bring us development by using carabaos and stones for the rest of our lives.. :nuts:

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you said it all TrueBlue... daw amo gid ni nabatygan ko sang nabasa ko ini! Nugay da sila panghilabot man... kung naba-an lang nila kung ano inagyan sini. Sus pagkadamo-damo nga public consultation kag studies... tapos i undermine lang nila? Can't they see the whole point nga tanan sa Panay kag sa Guimaras maka agum man kag makabenepisyo sini nga COAL PLANT? kag amo man ang COAL PLANT sa CONCEPCION?

tsk tsk tsk... I rest my case...mga mga Panayanon... kabalo na kamo sang dapat obrahon sa 2010. TIME FOR REAL CHANGE! As for ILOILO CIty come 2010, I am so happy sang mga line up. :) GO VM Jed! GO Mayor Jerry! (for Mayor and Congressman respectively.

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As I predicted BPOs will continue to grow since its still in the "infancy" here:

The BPO industry includes:

call centers
office works (back office I suppose)
medical and legal transcriptions
software development
architecture and animation using state-of-the-art computer technology


so far daw may ara na gid sang amo sini nga BPO sa Iloilo, not just callcenters...

Callcenters like Teletech, E-PLDT Ventus, CallBox etc

Medical Transcription so far may ara sa JOHN B kag sa Ledesma (sa Maria Clara Building (forgot the name though)

Software development may ara gid not sure of the names but there are several.

Animation - yes as well... (Packet Switch?)

mga kasimanwa buligi gid ko pang add diri. If you know some info please add so that we can monitor. :banana:

and hopefully KPOs in the near future. :D

^^

Again, because of the slowdown in US economy BPOS stands to gain more: read on.. this is good for Iloilos Growing BPOs as well:

Local BPO industry to triple by 2009, says BPAP exec

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abs-cbnNEWS.com | 10/10/2008 12:52 PM

The local business process outsourcing industry could double or triple by next year as more US companies outsource jobs to take advantage of lower cost of labor in the Philippines, an official of the Business Processing Association of the Philippines said Friday.

Jonathan de Lezuriagga, BPAP executive director for industry affairs, said some experts are predicting the P30-billion call center industry to double or triple by 2009 because of the global economic crisis.

Lezuriagga also believes that with the US companies struggling to stay afloat, "the most logical action for them" is to turn to outsourcing and look for countries that offer cheaper services.

He said the 420,000 to 430,000 call center agents in the Philippines, may also increase even before the end of the year. "We don't see it (US economic crisis) as alarming for the local call center industry," he said.

Catanduanes Rep. Joseph Santiago said the $500 a month salary of a call center agent in the Philippines is much cheaper than the salary being provided by BPO companies in the US.

"A call center agent's monthly salary in the Philippines is only equivalent to a three-day salary in the US," he said. "They (US-based companies) will be forced to close down or tighten their belts. They will go to the Philippines."

More call center agents to go to US?

Former budget secretary Benjamin Diokno, meanwhile, said the US government may implement a new policy to gain its losses.

"We (economists) think the US will use a new policy that will increase its exports and lessen its imports to cut its losses," Diokno said.

Diokno said one of the industries that may be affected by the new policy is the call center industry. He said the possible part of the new policy is bringing Filipino call center agents, employed by US-owned companies, to America.

"The US government may issue temporary visas to Filipino call center agents and bring them to the US," he said. He added that bringing more people to US is like recruiting more people to patronize US-made products.

"The workers will buy US goods. This is one way of making the economy lively again," Diokno said.

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Asus kung ako ko to ya dal-on maawol ako kag mangita iba nga obra hehehe :lol:

-dp-

Can I join the forum? But I can not wait for the response of the group before I can post this question because this might become irrelevant after few pages.

I remember in the past when Prof Landa Jocano, who is from Cabatuan refuted the story of the 10 Bornean Datus who landed in Panay. And as much as I can remember to what he purported, there is no written record to prove that this really happened, making thus, the coming of the Spaniards the earliest documented event in the country.

I also read an opinion in the Inquirer years ago that what Iloilo had were just "hearsays" which on my part was a big slap to my face because what I knew in the past, starting in grade 1 was the the story of the 10 Bornean Datus and the other story on the anger god of the Madia-as mountain and the quakes which the god has caused to the land. In fact I learned to read starting with this material from the Department of Education decades ago.

I still agree that Panay has the he write of oldest and the colorful history in the country. May be the write up of Dr. Functecha should be disseminated / published in all national dailies for everyone to know the real score. I too am feel robbed of my true Visayan origin. Sabi nila hindi ako Bisaya kundi Ilonggo. . .

^^ Actually it was Prof. Landa Jocano along with William Henry Scott who declared "The Maragtas" of Monteclaro and Santaren as folklore or a hoax after all. I think most if not all UP professors have agreed that "The Maragtas" legend is either a folklore and not as a hard history as it was suggested a few years ago.

The basis was lack of evidence, ethnographic/anthropological research and archaeological finds. This is pre-Hispanic Philippine history where it is not as clearly documented as the Spanish colonial era onwards are well documented.

In the realm of historiography, nothing seems to be permanent or a constant fact because it may be refuted by later historians because of different perspective, a scrutinizing research and mounting evidences. Even the identity of Bonifacio and Rizal are still being debated much to this day.

Some historians may disagree on this but with regard of the Ten Bornean Datus, I think majority of the academe in Panay would dismiss it as a folklore instead of a hoax. As they say, folklore may not be true per se but it still has some traces of history behind it.

The stories of the traditional Sulod Bukidnon with their Hinilawod and the folklore of the Atis may be the most genuine of all folklores that we may have.

And with regard to Sir Henry (who is my thesis adviser and mentor), he still gives us this: research and research more. Sometimes it may hit us hard but this would really gives us the true meaning of our identity.

And from Leoncio Deriada, "We Ilonggos are destined for greatness. For we are anchored by our history." Remember that Greeks despite the greatness of their civilization, still has mythology amidst their culture. I guess this is part of us in answering who we are and why we are here, human instincts.

Wow hasta na second floor gali? Ano plano ni Ong sa building nga ina man? Bati ko daw himuon nga ala Embassy. Grabi pag expand sang MO2 sa Iloilo ba. MO2 complex na gid na ya. Amo lang gid ni ipa bugal sang mga taga Iloilo sa iban kay SOlid gid ang night life dira, hambal gani sang friend sang gf ko nga taga davao daw small quezon kuno ang smallville kay ka modern sang mga structure. Sang una lapta lapta ang mga night life subong ara na sa isa ka lugar kag class pa ang dating, inde na kinahanglan mag kadto pa sa kon diin nga buho kon tak an ka sa isa ka lugar. Amo na ang maayo organize na ang iloilo. Kon gusto mo kaon kg malinong kadto ka sa Delgado kg Valeria, kay didto maayo ang ambiance. :banana::banana::banana:

Amu mana hambal sang migo ko, Quezon City, Libis type ang Smallville…:) BTW, ma four years ang Smallville subong na October, Flow Krua, Bluejay, daw my party naman ni dako, got it from Iloilo Events Magazine...:)


@steady..swak man ang prices??:lol:

Affordable ang price, P200 – P500…:)


mayong gab.i Iloilo


kanami sang Smallville.....:):

Daw kanami sang atmosphere,,,


nice pix

thanks…:)


wow amo na ine ang expansion sang mo2? mga december pa ina siguro matapos. Kanami na gid sang smallville:banana::banana::banana:

nami gid eh, siguro ang sa my punta na daw balay na duwa ka floors club pa gid na guro ang sa my likod annex, wla ko bi na kwaan pic…:)




• maayo kay hamba mo NAMIT ang manok sang fort manukan. dira ak osunod makadto hehehe. have yu tried CRAMMERS CAFE? okay man?

Fort San Pedro man ila style sang manok… basta kun diin my manok, ara gid ko, dugangan pa gid chicken skin, ga dugang pa gid namit kag mag kinamot, hehe… :lol:

Crammers okay man, na lipat nako sng style sang ila coffee, daw tsokolate bla, basta gina himu pana kunu sa Sara ky naka sturya ko ang manager da sang una, gin pa testingan pa gani niya ang mga gina himu nila na bago na mga coffee sakon te pasakay man ko eh pro oks man… hehe…:lol::bash::)


abaw dasig mag open ba. few sundays ago daw walap ma nunod ang bauhinia tapos open na sya gali any reviews? ok ang lugar, nami my mga painting sa sulod, cousin kona gali nag himu... tried kahapon lunch, as usual namit naman eh, galing ang total sng bill mu my 10% pa na service charge, tani gin upod na lang nila sa pricing sang mga foods para wala na plus plus sa punta...:):lol:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/iloilolib2.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/iloilolib.jpg

Captioned as Plaza Libertad in Iloilo but I'm not sure if it's correct. Maybe some of our forum members like those from Iloilo can verify the photo.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/iloilolibertad.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/iloilolibertad1.jpg

Amu mana hambal sang migo ko, Quezon City, Libis type ang Smallville…:) BTW, ma four years ang Smallville subong na October, Flow Krua, Bluejay, daw my party naman ni dako, got it from Iloilo Events Magazine...:)




Affordable ang price, P200 – P500…:)




thanks…:)




nami gid eh, siguro ang sa my punta na daw balay na duwa ka floors club pa gid na guro ang sa my likod annex, wla ko bi na kwaan pic…:)





Fort San Pedro man ila style sang manok… basta kun diin my manok, ara gid ko, dugangan pa gid chicken skin, ga dugang pa gid namit kag mag kinamot, hehe… :lol:

Crammers okay man, na lipat nako sng style sang ila coffee, daw tsokolate bla, basta gina himu pana kunu sa Sara ky naka sturya ko ang manager da sang una, gin pa testingan pa gani niya ang mga gina himu nila na bago na mga coffee sakon te pasakay man ko eh pro oks man… hehe…:lol::bash::)


ok ang lugar, nami my mga painting sa sulod, cousin kona gali nag himu... tried kahapon lunch, as usual namit naman eh, galing ang total sng bill mu my 10% pa na service charge, tani gin upod na lang nila sa pricing sang mga foods para wala na plus plus sa punta...:):lol:

Daw gina gutom man ako sang inyo gina isturyahan ba. Huo 4 years naman ang Smallville pero sige gyapon ang construction dira wla untat daw inde na pwede tawgon nga smallville kay ka lapad na gid. Basta damo kwarta sige gyapon dagsa sang nag bar hopping sa smallville kg Boardwalk. Dining grabi man kay halos puno mga restaurant dira not only in smallville but the whole downtown llike valeria and delgado, gen luna pa gd. Live na live gyapon ang syudad, unlike sa iban nga lugar nga DEAD na ang night life, syimpre mangita gyapon ang mga tawo sang class nga lugar. :banana::banana::banana::banana:

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[QUOTE=steadyasweroll;26490008]Amu mana hambal sang migo ko, Quezon City, Libis type ang Smallville…:) BTW, ma four years ang Smallville subong na October, Flow Krua, Bluejay, daw my party naman ni dako, got it from Iloilo Events Magazine...:)QUOTE]

Sa sunod inde lang Libis kg Quezon..THE FORT na.:banana::banana::banana:
Sa pamatyag mo ma invest bala si Ong dire sang additional nga 2 storey building kon mahina ang negosyo ya dire sa ILOILO? Syimpre nakita ya nga grabi ang demand kag daku ang kita ya sa Iloilo...amo na gina tawag nga CONFIDENCE. Laban laban Big Party na naman ni. Sang pag open sang Flow gali grabi man ang Party kag Red Carpet pa daw ala Embassy. Amo na ginatawag nga wala ga ka fade naga expand pa gani. Kon na purga ka na sa isa ka lugar syimpre tak-an ka na mag balik balik, amo man na sa putahe kon tak an ka na mangita ka naman sang bag-o. Syimpre kon patay na ang negosyo kag naga tigulang nga wala improvement syimpre lugi hasta nga mag close na. kag then makadto naman sila sa iban nga parte sang lugar kag didto naman patindog kay syimpre didto ang damo tawo. amo na ga katabo sa iban nga lugar subong, thats why lapta lapta na sila. Kon bala daw langka langka nga manok nga kon diin lng. Maayo pa gani ang manok kay bisan diin lang may Inasal:nuts::nuts::nuts::lol::lol::lol:

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Sa sunod inde lang Libis kg Quezon..THE FORT na.:banana::banana::banana:
Sa pamatyag mo ma invest bala si Ong dire sang additional nga 2 storey building kon mahina ang negosyo ya dire sa ILOILO? Syimpre nakita ya nga grabi ang demand kag daku ang kita ya sa Iloilo...amo na gina tawag nga CONFIDENCE. Laban laban Big Party na naman ni. Sang pag open sang Flow gali grabi man ang Party kag Red Carpet pa daw ala Embassy. Amo na ginatawag nga wala ga ka fade naga expand pa gani. Syimpre kon patay na ang negosyo kag naga tigulang nga wala improvement syimpre lugi hasta nga mag close na. kag then makadto naman sila sa iban nga parte sang lugar kag didto naman patindog kay syimpre didto ang damo tawo. amo na ga katabo sa iban nga lugar subong, thats why lapta lapta na sila. Kon bala daw langka langka nga manok nga kon diin lng. Maayo pa gani ang manok kay bisan diin lang may Inasal:nuts::nuts::nuts::lol::lol::lol:

Daw gina gutom man ako sang inyo gina isturyahan ba. Huo 4 years naman ang Smallville pero sige gyapon ang construction dira wla untat daw inde na pwede tawgon nga smallville kay ka lapad na gid. Basta damo kwarta sige gyapon dagsa sang nag bar hopping sa smallville kg Boardwalk. Dining grabi man kay halos puno mga restaurant dira not only in smallville but the whole downtown llike valeria and delgado, gen luna pa gd. Live na live gyapon ang syudad, unlike sa iban nga lugar nga DEAD na ang night life, syimpre mangita gyapon ang mga tawo sang class nga lugar. :banana::banana::banana::banana:

hehe... tyakto gid, na hulat tana lang ang Meg mag sugod develop sang ila lugar ky ma connect gid na tanan na lugar sng syudad sa ila, one thing na notice ko ka nami gid sng location sng Smallville... add up mupa ang opening sang Amigo nami gid nada ang delgado valeria kag iznart street...:)

I have a different experience from you rapuy. Here, people view me as bisaya though I am from Iloilo. I have nothing against cebuanos but i just am very comfortable in asserting my ilonggo identity and distancing it from the term bisaya. This is not because i am ashamed of what the term bisaya connotes, rather i just wanted to outline the differences and similarities between the two ethnicities so that manilenos will know who is who.

And i agree with you that the term bisaya is derogatory here because of the maids and houseboys.

One time, i was eating in a carinderia here and one of their servants made a mistake of gathering a customer's half finished meal who only happened to go to the counter to get ketchup. when he returned, he was surprised to find out that the dishses half eaten food were now being placed on top of each other, gathered by the servedora. He fumed and demanded to the owners to replace his meal since he was not finished, he just went to get ketchup. So the owners obliged. Then one of them took the servedora aside and scolded her to first ascertain if the customer has left. Then the other owner told co-owner to understand the servedora because she is a bisaya. Other customers were also murmuring "bisaya kasi kinuha nyo, ayan tuloy, sakit sa ulo" but when i heard her talk in tagalog she had a very heavy ilonggo accent. The customers and owners of the carinderia however viewed her as bisaya because for them, iloilo is in the visayas hence this ilongga is a bisaya hence baduy.

I didn't know if she was from negros or iloilo province but i am very certain she was ilongga. I didn't know what to do to be honest. I was in a room full of tagalogs and perhaps i was the only ilonggo customer, and i really felt degraded. These tagalogs really do feel they are superior to you just because they speak tagalog. I guess that's another motivation for us guys to help in the development and contribution of our hometown and province.

Another experience was that of my friend who when she applied for a job, the interviewer asked her if she knows what a TV is and what it does because after all, she was from the province. Not just any province, but a province in the visayas. Do you notice how tagalogs deal with provincianos? If its a provinciano from lets say, laguna, cavite or bulacan, they're looked down for being provinciano but their admittedly held in higher regard than provincianos based in the visayas who are in addition, looked at with contempt and silent degradation.

Even the bulakeños and caviteños look down at as because my mother was in a wedding where some of the guests were from those two provinces. At the reception, she heard (she was in another table) them say that they're surprised to find out there are also cars here in iloilo city.

How did it come to this? Is there a way to uplift our image?

I'll tell you why. THESE people never even travelled... my safe assumption is that maybe the farthest they ever travel is the boundaries of their town/province or within Luzon but not beyond that... add to that stories in movies/comics/radio about people in the province and what it looks like... so here we go... it started with these notions until it became a STEREOTYPE!

No theres nothing with being ILONGGO or being from ILOILO or from any othe provinces... THESE peopl you refer to are SO IGNORANT... they should travel... you learn from reading/listening BUT TRAVELING IS entirely different thing. YOU LEARN the culture and all.

I'll tell you my story 7-8 years ago. First time I'm here in Manila for training I was able to befriend the "Alogs" their initial impression of me was BADUY, hehehe which I am not. So ok... they thought ILOILO was this backward... carabao transpo, no cell phones, no cell sites, no malls in short nothing of the sort that you can see in Manila (that time I'm using 3210 mo pa ni uso kag sikat)... I explained look at my cell, I've been using this to text people back home... (ila gani 5110 lang :lol: ) I explained we have 3 SM's (which surprised them) we have same amenities with Manila (though in a lesser degree) BUT with less traffic, less pollution and less squatters, less dirt in the city streets and told them as well that Robinson's Mall is being built. Then they asked me what transpo I used to get there... I told them "sumakay sa eroplano" (courtesy of the company) hehehe SHOCKED mga alog sila kuno wala pa gani kasakay eroplano! Ay te! sus ginoo! Daw hambalon ko nga mo na mo wala kamo ya ga travel, wala kamo ka learn whats outside the confines of manila/luzon.

te my question is who's at fault? hehehe not me certainly! Not being from the visayas, being from ILOILO, being an ILONGGO!

Now that is my ANSWER to your question KALTEHITZE... its all about IGNORANCE and some superiority complex and a dash of pride. :lol:

Can I join the forum? But I can not wait for the response of the group before I can post this question because this might become irrelevant after few pages.

I remember in the past when Prof Landa Jocano, who is from Cabatuan refuted the story of the 10 Bornean Datus who landed in Panay. And as much as I can remember to what he purported, there is no written record to prove that this really happened, making thus, the coming of the Spaniards the earliest documented event in the country.

I also read an opinion in the Inquirer years ago that what Iloilo had were just "hearsays" which on my part was a big slap to my face because what I knew in the past, starting in grade 1 was the the story of the 10 Bornean Datus and the other story on the anger god of the Madia-as mountain and the quakes which the god has caused to the land. In fact I learned to read starting with this material from the Department of Education decades ago.

I still agree that Panay has the he write of oldest and the colorful history in the country. May be the write up of Dr. Functecha should be disseminated / published in all national dailies for everyone to know the real score. I too am feel robbed of my true Visayan origin. Sabi nila hindi ako Bisaya kundi Ilonggo. . .

YOU ARE MOST WELCOME to Join ILONGGO-AKO!
Right now this is considered a "legend" or as Berns mentioned "folk lore" but I believe there is always a hint of truth in those stories/legend. Time will tell.

As for me I consider this stories the myths of our Race.... like the Greeks/Romans. Theres a hint of truth here but until all is proved... I still regard this stories as the INCOMPLETE truth of our TRIBE (Ilonggo/Hiligaynon) :)

DPWH completes repair of E. Marcos Bridge

THE Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) finally opened to traffic the E. Marcos Bridge (Amerang Bridge) in Maasin, Iloilo which was was damaged by typhoon Frank on June 21, 2008.

The bridge is an RCDG Bridge that has a total length of 180 meters. Six of its 12 spans were totally damaged by the flashflood spawned by typhoon Frank.
The bridge is very vital as it connects the towns of Maasin, Cabatuan, Sta. Barbara, and Pavia to Iloilo City.

It is also part of the major road from Alimodian to the new Iloilo Airport in Cabatuan.

The completion of the bridge ended the difficulty experienced by the public who took a longer alternate route to reach Iloilo City.

source: The Daily Guardian ILOILO (http://thedailyguardian.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9935&Itemid=2)

^^
This is one great news as the importance of this bridge is so HIGH since it connects:

The bridge is very vital as it connects the towns of Maasin, Cabatuan, Sta. Barbara, and Pavia to Iloilo City.

It is also part of the major road from Alimodian to the new Iloilo Airport in Cabatuan.

Sa diin gid ni siya dampi man? So parte pa ni gali sang Alimodian... may pic sang bridge nga ini?


nag kadto ko gina smallville, dako gali ang expansion sang MO2, bi ko didto lang ayun sa may punta gali asta pa di sa picture
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg212/steadyasweroll/10112008-1.jpg
Steak House di kuno ma open (Formerly Flow)
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg212/steadyasweroll/10112008001-1.jpg

Steady thanks for the pictures update! Astig na gid ang Smallville Complex!
More restobars / coffee shops/ and shops pa gid for 2009!

If you please update man kami sang ginaobra da sa Amigo kung ano na ang hitsura/ progress! :)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/iloilolib2.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/iloilolib.jpg

Captioned as Plaza Libertad in Iloilo but I'm not sure if it's correct. Maybe some of our forum members like those from Iloilo can verify the photo.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/iloilolibertad.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/iloilolibertad1.jpg

Im not sure if I am right but as I see it, to me looks like really Plaza Libertad (orig church) but in some aspects it kinda resembles the Molo Church and the Jaro... since the picture is quite faded. Hope it helps somehow.

You know what, i think if there is ever a rivalry in terms of coffeeshop business here in iloilo, it is between bluejay and coffeebreak. Both started at about the same year, both are iloilo brands, both cater to the same clientele, both have numerous brances and both have about the same prices offered. I think rivalries are good for business, keeps them on their toes and forces them to offer more value to the customers.

i remember the days when there were also rivalries in other areas of business, like in the restaurant business, there was a rivalry between mr. lee garden restaurant (now closed) and dainty house. Summer house was still an upstart. In the boutique business, there was a rivalry between china arts and china rose, in the siopao business, there is still the rivalry of kong kee and roberto's. In terms of malls, Payless and Atrium.

I can relate to these... you forgot Commoner & Seven-Seven Trading!
Ernings Manokan & Tatoys Manokan & Nenas Manokan.
Ledi Supermart and Iloilo Supermart! :)

Those were the old days...

Daw gina gutom man ako sang inyo gina isturyahan ba. Huo 4 years naman ang Smallville pero sige gyapon ang construction dira wla untat daw inde na pwede tawgon nga smallville kay ka lapad na gid. Basta damo kwarta sige gyapon dagsa sang nag bar hopping sa smallville kg Boardwalk. Dining grabi man kay halos puno mga restaurant dira not only in smallville but the whole downtown llike valeria and delgado, gen luna pa gd. Live na live gyapon ang syudad, unlike sa iban nga lugar nga DEAD na ang night life, syimpre mangita gyapon ang mga tawo sang class nga lugar. :banana::banana::banana::banana:

Patawa ka talaga lola collin.kelan pa nagkaron ng nightlife ang iloilo?with your city's high crime rate.7pm pa lang,your city is literally DEAD.yan ang totoong dead.lolz!ang baduy pa ng crowd sa smallville.if meron man nightlife,pag weekend lang.pero Mon-Thursday,its like ghost town in iloilo.walang wala kesa ibang cities sa vizmin.NAPAG IWANAN na siyudad nyo.

Im not sure if I am right but as I see it, to me looks like really Plaza Libertad (orig church) but in some aspects it kinda resembles the Molo Church and the Jaro... since the picture is quite faded. Hope it helps somehow.

The second set of photos looks like Plaza Libertad. But the first set, the facade looks different and looks similar to Malabon Church.

.......

Captioned as Plaza Libertad in Iloilo but I'm not sure if it's correct. Maybe some of our forum members like those from Iloilo can verify the photo.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/iloilolibertad.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/iloilolibertad1.jpg

I think these are photos of Plaza Libertad. The house located at the left of the church looks similar to the house that still stands there today. :)

As promised:

Mang Inasal in Sta Lucia Mall:

http://i34.tinypic.com/2413z94.jpg

Kumbinsing!

Took this pic while falling in line.

Namit gid man ila manok. Daw sa Iloilo lang JUICY but not OILY!

Loved the chicken oil plus the rice (unlimited!)

yummy!

I think these are photos of Plaza Libertad. The house located at the left of the church looks similar to the house that still stands there today. :)

Now that reminds me of the house near the Dunkin Donuts factory, or is it that house now? Thanks Oboi for clearing that up!

as promised:

mang Inasal in Sta Lucia:

http://i34.tinypic.com/2413z94.jpg

Kumbinsing! :banana: :banana: :banana:

Mang Inasal - Ongpin Street, Manila. Not sure if it's in Sta. Cruz or Binondo portion of Ongpin basta sa Chinatown.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h141/oboi_1/manginasal.jpg

Im not sure if I am right but as I see it, to me looks like really Plaza Libertad (orig church) but in some aspects it kinda resembles the Molo Church and the Jaro... since the picture is quite faded. Hope it helps somehow.

not sure but it do looks like plaza libertad, the church seems like san jose church in plaza libertad, as well as the big banga(jar) which are placed around the plaza...

I have a different experience from you rapuy. Here, people view me as bisaya though I am from Iloilo. I have nothing against cebuanos but i just am very comfortable in asserting my ilonggo identity and distancing it from the term bisaya. This is not because i am ashamed of what the term bisaya connotes, rather i just wanted to outline the differences and similarities between the two ethnicities so that manilenos will know who is who.

And i agree with you that the term bisaya is derogatory here because of the maids and houseboys.

One time, i was eating in a carinderia here and one of their servants made a mistake of gathering a customer's half finished meal who only happened to go to the counter to get ketchup. when he returned, he was surprised to find out that the dishses half eaten food were now being placed on top of each other, gathered by the servedora. He fumed and demanded to the owners to replace his meal since he was not finished, he just went to get ketchup. So the owners obliged. Then one of them took the servedora aside and scolded her to first ascertain if the customer has left. Then the other owner told co-owner to understand the servedora because she is a bisaya. Other customers were also murmuring "bisaya kasi kinuha nyo, ayan tuloy, sakit sa ulo" but when i heard her talk in tagalog she had a very heavy ilonggo accent. The customers and owners of the carinderia however viewed her as bisaya because for them, iloilo is in the visayas hence this ilongga is a bisaya hence baduy.

I didn't know if she was from negros or iloilo province but i am very certain she was ilongga. I didn't know what to do to be honest. I was in a room full of tagalogs and perhaps i was the only ilonggo customer, and i really felt degraded. These tagalogs really do feel they are superior to you just because they speak tagalog. I guess that's another motivation for us guys to help in the development and contribution of our hometown and province.

Another experience was that of my friend who when she applied for a job, the interviewer asked her if she knows what a TV is and what it does because after all, she was from the province. Not just any province, but a province in the visayas. Do you notice how tagalogs deal with provincianos? If its a provinciano from lets say, laguna, cavite or bulacan, they're looked down for being provinciano but their admittedly held in higher regard than provincianos based in the visayas who are in addition, looked at with contempt and silent degradation.

Even the bulakeños and caviteños look down at as because my mother was in a wedding where some of the guests were from those two provinces. At the reception, she heard (she was in another table) them say that they're surprised to find out there are also cars here in iloilo city.

How did it come to this? Is there a way to uplift our image?

Amo na lang ni ginahambal ko:
"Aber, good luck sa kuryente't tubig nyo kasi Ilonggo din nagpapatakbo nyan dito sa Maynila! Good luck din sa NBI clearances nyo kasi Ilonggo ang secretary ng DOJ! And oh by the way, yung asukal nyo sa kusina, baka galing din sa amin yan...at saka yung Kapamilya channel? Tas yung Gateway din pala and the likes...." :lol: :lol:

Yeah, in a way it feels derogatory that they look upon Ilonggos as that, but I'll do it the Ilonggo way....silence is a killer. Just wait if they pressure you to flaunt your culture. This way, I won't feel degraded by some myopic Tagalogs or someone else..

But I really do have to ask why we Ilonggos don't tend to be very agressive and very competitive against Manilenos or Tagalogs?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/iloilolib2.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/iloilolib.jpg

Captioned as Plaza Libertad in Iloilo but I'm not sure if it's correct. Maybe some of our forum members like those from Iloilo can verify the photo.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/iloilolibertad.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/iloilolibertad1.jpg

The old belfries of Iglesia de San Jose de Placer is still there, and so is the Casa Ancestral de Lacson and Botica Lacson. Its really in Plaza Libertad. The second set is confirmed Kuya Bogs. :okay:

But the first set of pictures looks similar to that of Malabon's Church.

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/12/photos/50/600x600/15/OldIloilo00003.jpg?et=vIZvCzphipmZHkl3jsJgqg&nmid=41576748
The old San Jose de Placer Church in front of Plaza Libertad

And here it is now: The Casa Ancestral de Lacson and the San Jose de Placer Church
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/31/photos/43/600x600/1/Image00064.jpg?et=ru0yNThimCnuk6DutBKA%2CA&nmid=41040636

^^ Sa studies mo Masterial, do you came along The known written language came from Western Visayas? It was introduced in my elementary years history class.

About the ignoramus tagalogs, the best answer is tell them, why don't you visit Visayan cities before you make your comments.

It is a similar situation as some Americans do asked me.

^^ Sa studies mo Masterial, do you came along The known written language came from Western Visayas? It was introduced in my elementary years history class.

About the ignoramus tagalogs, the best answer is tell them, why don't you visit Visayan cities before you make your comments.

Nong Fred, actually it didn't. Even professors in Western Visayas is already refuting the legend of Maragtas although itself has an anthropological history of the Visayan or Filipino people despite being declared as a hoax or a folklore.

Well, I believe some Tagalogs are but not all. ;)

Good day Iloilo! It's my first time to post in your thread, though I've visited it several times already. I was born in Bacolod but my roots are from Iloilo; i'm currently working outside. I have cousins working and living there, so next home ko guid ang Iloilo. Lipay guid ko makita ang madasig nga pag-uswag sng Iloilo kag amo man ang Bacolod.

Quite interesting ang topic nyo bout "Ilonggo" and "Bisaya" thing. Many of us Ilonggos could relate to the experience to @kaltehitze above while in Manila or even outside the country. Coz these "mis-informed" tagalogs tend to look down on us just because kung maghambal ta kuno daw gakanta kag lugar ta sng mga katulong. Kag bisan ano ta nga tadlong hambal naton, budlay gid ya bag-ohun accent ta. Example na lang Mirriam Santiago, in all her brilliance, Ilonggo gid ya gihapon ang accent. So, instead of avoiding or trying to change it, we should better accept and enjoy it.

In my own experience in Manila and here outside of the country, people will respect us not because of our ethnicity but because of our character and performance. Respect is not forced or bought but earned. Before the tagalogs used to taunt me "bisaya ka to, dugay ka na sa Manila tunto ka man gihapon" at first daw mangutus na gid ko. But instead I tried to establish myself in our workplace, so ang iban subong daw indi na katulok derecho sa mata ko kay sila ya amo man gihapon. I don't care tawgon ko nila bisaya coz I am indeed one. But now they know me as certain "XX" nga Ilonggo nga taga-Bacolod. I think they now forget my accent, hehehe.

Good day again. Hope my small piece has been relevant.

Good day Iloilo! It's my first time to post in your thread, though I've visited it several times already. I was born in Bacolod but my roots are from Iloilo; i'm currently working outside. I have cousins working and living there, so next home ko guid ang Iloilo. Lipay guid ko makita ang madasig nga pag-uswag sng Iloilo kag amo man ang Bacolod.

Quite interesting ang topic nyo bout "Ilonggo" and "Bisaya" thing. Many of us Ilonggos could relate to the experience to @kaltehitze above while in Manila or even outside the country. Coz these "mis-informed" tagalogs tend to look down on us just because kung maghambal ta kuno daw gakanta kag lugar ta sng mga katulong. Kag bisan ano ta nga tadlong hambal naton, budlay gid ya bag-ohun accent ta. Example na lang Mirriam Santiago, in all her brilliance, Ilonggo gid ya gihapon ang accent. So, instead of avoiding or trying to change it, we should better accept and enjoy it.

In my own experience in Manila and here outside of the country, people will respect us not because of our ethnicity but because of our character and performance. Respect is not forced or bought but earned. Before the tagalogs used to taunt me "bisaya ka to, dugay ka na sa Manila tunto ka man gihapon" at first daw mangutus na gid ko. But instead I tried to establish myself in our workplace, so ang iban subong daw indi na katulok derecho sa mata ko kay sila ya amo man gihapon. I don't care tawgon ko nila bisaya coz I am indeed one. But now they know me as certain "XX" nga Ilonggo nga taga-Bacolod. I think they now forget my accent, hehehe.

Good day again. Hope my small piece has been relevant.

X'former Welcome to Iloilo thread!

experience ko dri kung mankuton ko nila taga diin ako sa pinas, hambal ko iloilo, masabat sila dayun a bisaya ka gli, ako mn gasabat mn dayun indi ilonggo ako ya, wehehe.. and when they asked te balo ka gli mag bisaya, sabat ako kadyut hehe, tapos nahambalan ko sila na ang language natun is hiligaynon...

siguro try ta na i educate mga tao na mameet ta thinking this way..if they get so mean then siguro thats the time maresbak ta, aw sus a, inaway gid ya...joke lng

Thanks @Overtureph for the pics and Welcome to SSC-Iloilo @X'former.

d/p

Welcome to the Philippines!
Our national animal is: crab/talangka.
Our national fruit is: starfruit/balimbing.
Our national symbol: crocodile

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RP scientist named ‘hero of environment’


By Nestor P. Burgos Jr.
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 02:55:00 10/12/2008


ILOILO CITY, Philippines—“It’s not for me. It’s for the mangroves.”

As always, Jurgenne Primavera thought about her advocacy first before her achievements.

The retired Iloilo-based scientist has been featured by Time magazine in its Oct. 6 special issue on “Heroes of the Environment.” She was among 30 activists, scientists, celebrities, innovators and financiers all over the world who were cited for their contribution to environmental protection.

What they have in common is the passion and resourcefulness to confront environmental threats, Time said.

“They cannot solve climate change alone or save endangered species single-handedly. But by their example, by their willingness to dedicate themselves to what too many still dismiss as a hopeless case, these heroes of the environment provide light in the darkness.”

Primavera, 61, was lauded for her “groundbreaking studies” on the life cycle of tiger prawns in the country which “helped galvanize an aquaculture revolution.”

The magazine cited her campaign for sustainable fish-farming in order to protect the mangrove forests that act as a fish nursery and a crucial buffer zone between land and sea which help block floods and tsunamis.

Recognition

Primavera, who has already received various awards, honors and citations from the academe and scientific community, including an honorary doctorate from the Stockholm University in 2004, said she was happy to be among Time’s choices because this would bring her campaign to a wider audience.

“It’s not I and my peers who will ultimately save the environment. It’s the laymen, the common folk, who will,” she said.

She also hopes that the fame will inspire young people to take up marine biology and focus on mangroves. She stressed the importance of educating children about environmental issues and preservation efforts.

“Start with the children because the values they learn will stay with them for a lifetime, the same way my experiences shaped my beliefs,” she said.

She remembered growing up surrounded by native trees in her hometown in Buenavista, Agusan del Norte. She would spend hours with her siblings climbing mango, avocado and other tropical trees in their backyard.

But she also recalled the yearly floods caused by rampant logging that denuded forests in her province and often made roads impassable.

And on the day she took a scholarship examination of the National Science Development Board in 1961, floodwaters damaged or destroyed many bridges in Agusan del Norte, forcing her and her father to cross rivers on coconut trunks or bamboo poles to get to the testing center.

Her fondness for nature and experiences helped develop her interest on sciences and the environment. She eventually took zoology at the University of the Philippines in Diliman under an NSDB scholarship and graduated cum laude in 1966.

Primavera said her college life was mostly field trips for her course. “I was surprised that I couldn’t find a photo of me in a party. They were all taken in the field,” she said, laughing.

After graduating, she decided to go back to Mindanao and teach biology at the Mindanao State University in Marawi City until 1975. She enjoyed her work and going back to her roots and a pristine environment, and bringing her students to field trips.

“Teaching was a high point in my life,” Primavera said.

She developed her awareness of the environmental impact of development projects, especially those in Lake Lanao.

Passion

Her passion was also greatly reinforced by her participation in the United Nations Conference on the Human Environment in Stockholm in 1972.

But the intensifying armed conflict between government troops and Moro rebels in the 1970s prompted her and several other scientists in Mindanao to relocate to Iloilo and join the Southeast Asian Fisheries and Development Center (Seafdec).

She spent her early years in the center back in its field station in Leganes town, spending hours on fishponds to work on brood stocks and study mangroves.

A few years later, she obtained a master’s degree in zoology at the Indiana University.

In 1990, she was granted a scholarship for her doctorate studies by the Philippine Council for Aquatic and Marine Research and Development. Her thesis at UP Diliman focused on the impact of aquaculture on mangroves which also shaped her lifetime commitment to the preservation of mangroves.

While working on her thesis, she spent two years researching on Guimaras Island, which has one the richest varieties of mangrove species in the country.

After her studies, Primavera returned to research work at Seafdec, focusing on environment aquaculture.

She spoke out on threats of the booming shrimp and prawn industry on mangroves, and pointed at the destruction of mangrove areas or their conversion to fishponds.

She also expressed concern over the adverse impact of fishponds on municipal fishing, the means of livelihood of the majority of fishermen.

At a time when aquaculture was booming, Primavera rang warning bells on the perils of unregulated shrimp farming.

She has pushed for the maintenance of a health balance between areas developed for aquaculture and those preserved for mangroves. For every unit area developed for ponds, there should be at least four unit areas for mangroves (1:4) to help protect the environment.

She admits being ostracized in aquaculture circles for her advocacy but she was later vindicated by the impact of the boom-and-bust nature of the shrimp industry that brought long-term damage to the environment.

Her work on mangroves was given a significant boost in 2004 with the publication of the “Handbook of Mangroves in the Philippines-Panay,” which she coauthored with other scientists and mangrove specialists. The manual was released to help students, nongovernment organizations and environmentalists better appreciate the country’s mangrove resources.

“We wanted people to look at mangroves through our eyes,” Primavera said.

Active in retirement

Now a grandmother of two, she remains one of the most active advocates of the protection of mangroves and the conservation of natural resources.

She cited the alarming state of mangroves, with only a fifth remaining from the 500,000 hectares at the turn of the 20th century. On the other hand, brackish water ponds have increased almost fourfold, from 61,000 ha in 1940 to 230,000 ha.

In between giving lectures and speeches, attending conferences here and abroad, and joining causes, Primavera tends to a nursery of native trees she has started to developed.

But she said bringing environmental issues to the common folk can be challenging. “People would always say at first that the issues we advocate are ‘indi makaon’ (not edible) and that economic and immediate needs should be prioritized.”

People would, however, easily make the connections between the environment and its impact on their lives when they attend workshops.

“The real challenge lies in changing the mind-set of policymakers and politicians,” Primavera said.

With the recent destruction brought by natural calamities, discussing the importance of taking care of the environment has become easier, she said. But she fears that the increase in awareness may not keep pace with the escalation of degradation.

“We need a few well-placed fearless fighters for our environment,” Primavera said.

www.inquirer.net

Patawa ka talaga lola collin.kelan pa nagkaron ng nightlife ang iloilo?with your city's high crime rate.7pm pa lang,your city is literally DEAD.yan ang totoong dead.lolz!ang baduy pa ng crowd sa smallville.if meron man nightlife,pag weekend lang.pero Mon-Thursday,its like ghost town in iloilo.walang wala kesa ibang cities sa vizmin.NAPAG IWANAN na siyudad nyo.

the incurable kibitzer is here again.:lol:

International Schools - Iloilo Alternatives
For the foreigner with children considering relocation to the Philippines, a key consideration is finding good schools for them. Often this means living in Manila or Cebu City where there are well-regarded international schools. That’s fine for the corporate employee whose employer will foot the $5,000 to $10,000 tuition and who have to live in the cities for their work.


The international schools essentially create enclaves; secure, air-conditioned, English speaking cocoons of first world standards and values. Fellow students are a mix of the children of foreign businessmen, diplomats, NGO directors and the indulged offspring of the Filipino elite. Soccer fields replace basketball courts. The students are being prepared for admission to universities in Europe, the United States and Japan and readmission to life in the first world. The whole point of the international schools is to isolate their children from the Philippines.

Maybe you can’t afford the tuition to an international school. Maybe you don’t want or need to live in congested, polluted Manila or Cebu City. Here’s another alternative to consider. Iloilo has a very large, influential, and well-integrated Chinese-Filipino population. Early on, Iloilo’s Chinese community wanted to preserve its children’s connection to Chinese language and culture. It founded and supported several thriving “Chinese schools” including the Iloilo Chinese Commercial School, which was founded in 1911 and the nearby Sun Yat Sen High School.

Today these Iloilo Chinese schools welcome foreign students. They can be a good alternative for foreigners who want to prepare their kids for opportunities in Asia or back in the US or Europe working for employers doing business in Asia. The kids can grow up in Asia, speak multiple languages including English, Tagalog and Mandarin. They can be comfortable with life in Asia and be imbued with an Asian cultural literacy unobtainable in the US or Europe. After graduation, they can go on to college in the Philippines or elsewhere.


I have a retired American friend who settled in Iloilo City so that his son could attend ICCHS and learn Mandarin. So far, he’s happy. The cost is about $1,000 per student per year. Don’t expect more than adequate facilities at these schools. The facilities are a big step above public schools but still will seem quite basic to most foreigners.

Another good possibility are the elite Catholic schools of Iloilo City. The one that I am most familiar with is Assumption Iloilo. The facilities and location is more upscale than the Chinese schools. There is an English-only rule in class. Students may have to pay a fine if they lapse into the local dialect, Hiligaynon. This works. Every Ilongga I know speaks English well. We’ve spent a great deal of time with a Filipino family whose daughter attends Assumption. She an impressive young lady, poised and accomplished. We also know several other adult Assumption graduates including our landlady and our attorney. All are educated, well-spoken, urbane and decent people. Assumption is not only strong on academic skills, it also insists on discipline and teaching basic values, but not in an overly austere way. I’m not a Catholic but I would not hesitate to choose Assumption for my daughter if I had one. Assumption does accept boys in the elementary grades but is primarily a girl’s school.

Please feel free to suggest corrections or additions. There are many other private schools in Iloilo City. I’ll try to add information and photos as I get them.

By Robert Hammerslag
http://goiloilo.com/international-schools-in-iloilo/

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Bob, sorry for posting without your permission, just wanted to share it.


i noticed the schools mentioned are expensive ones. well, for a foreigner considering relocation, they likely are within reach financially.

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Daw gina gutom man ako sang inyo gina isturyahan ba. Huo 4 years naman ang Smallville pero sige gyapon ang construction dira wla untat daw inde na pwede tawgon nga smallville kay ka lapad na gid. Basta damo kwarta sige gyapon dagsa sang nag bar hopping sa smallville kg Boardwalk. Dining grabi man kay halos puno mga restaurant dira not only in smallville but the whole downtown llike valeria and delgado, gen luna pa gd. Live na live gyapon ang syudad, unlike sa iban nga lugar nga DEAD na ang night life, syimpre mangita gyapon ang mga tawo sang class nga lugar. :banana::banana::banana::banana:

Boring gid ang nightlife sa ciudad nyo. I was there last friday sa pinalangga mo na ciudad and bit disappointed sa nightlife nyo dira, boring gid. Mayo lang kay may nag sugat sa akon na friend ko dira kag nag watch na lang kami dvd sa house nila. and one thing i notice sa ilo-ilo, mag lagaw ko sa big malls nyo da la ko ka kita pretty girls.:ohno: Unlike sa dumaguete kag sa Bacolod ga anaw ang mga gwapa sa mall. Sige lang basi next time damu na.:):cheers:peace!

Boring gid ang nightlife sa ciudad nyo. I was there last friday sa pinalangga mo na ciudad and bit disappointed sa nightlife nyo dira, boring gid. Mayo lang kay may nag sugat sa akon na friend ko dira kag nag watch na lang kami dvd sa house nila. and one thing i notice sa ilo-ilo, mag lagaw ko sa big malls nyo da la ko ka kita pretty girls.:ohno: Unlike sa dumaguete kag sa Bacolod ga anaw ang mga gwapa sa mall. Sige lang basi next time damu na.:):cheers:peace!

basi libat mata mo.:ohno:Toto you're welcome gid sa iloilo a.

naga baha na naman ang mga hisa-on kag tikalon, hay.

sige lang a.it's his/her lonely negative opinion among infinite positive feedback.daw dunot nga kamatis sa iban nga maayo.kalolooy man nga tinuga.gapasaga-saga gid a.

^^well that's true. let's focus on the positives and go back to more salient discussions instead.

kon sin-o ma na siya tani nakabalo bala siya sang golden rule nga" donot do unto others if you do not want others do unto you".

@robusta, maybe your friend who is supposed to entertain you is somewhat a loner. That is why you do not appreciate the city you visited.

I have never been to Iloilo City, Bacolod City or to any Cities in the Philippines except from Laguna, Cavite up to Pampanga in Luzon. I like to visit Western Visayan cities hopefully next year. My late parents always tell me visit Iloilo City and around Panay Island. They used to live in San Jose, Antique and Iloilo City right before WWII. This is the reason I always visit Iloilo City thread so I will be oriented a bit.
I was born and raised in Cebu City. Currently living in New York.

Boring gid ang nightlife sa ciudad nyo. I was there last friday sa pinalangga mo na ciudad and bit disappointed sa nightlife nyo dira, boring gid. Mayo lang kay may nag sugat sa akon na friend ko dira kag nag watch na lang kami dvd sa house nila. and one thing i notice sa ilo-ilo, mag lagaw ko sa big malls nyo da la ko ka kita pretty girls.:ohno: Unlike sa dumaguete kag sa Bacolod ga anaw ang mga gwapa sa mall. Sige lang basi next time damu na.:):cheers:peace!
Amo ni gina tawag nga strike 2 :lol::lol::lol: bal-an mo gid ang mga guilty eh ga ginuwa sa ila longga. Hinay hinay lang, ga react bala dayon haw. Hay naku napaka defensive nyo naman. Inde kamo mag react kay naga gwa nga obvious na gid kamo kaayo, naga guwa nga inde kamo mahilig sa gina tawag nga class, kay naanad kamo sa binuki kag binadoy nga lifestyle. Duling ka siguro pag kadto mo sa iloilo, amo na.:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: One thing, basi inde pretty girls hanap mo mig, gusto mo HUNK?

sige lang a.it's his/her lonely negative opinion among infinite positive feedback.daw dunot nga kamatis sa iban nga maayo.kalolooy man nga tinuga.gapasaga-saga gid a.
Korek ka gid dira migo! Amo gi na kon HIsa na eh. Advice ko lang sa imo TOTO nga inde ka mag pasaga saga kay ga guwa nga obvious na kaayo, paminsar anay bag-o mag post para bala inde ka mag gwa nga amo ni oh :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: ti kuha mo na? panghilam-os ka anay basi may hang over ka pa. Pa check-up ka anay basi bala na troma ka sang pag kadto mo sa Iloilo haw, ang maayo dira balik ka to anay sa ginhalinan mo basi pa man lang magbalik ang katinu-an mo IHO.:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:

Boring gid ang nightlife sa ciudad nyo. I was there last friday sa pinalangga mo na ciudad and bit disappointed sa nightlife nyo dira, boring gid. Mayo lang kay may nag sugat sa akon na friend ko dira kag nag watch na lang kami dvd sa house nila. and one thing i notice sa ilo-ilo, mag lagaw ko sa big malls nyo da la ko ka kita pretty girls.:ohno: Unlike sa dumaguete kag sa Bacolod ga anaw ang mga gwapa sa mall. Sige lang basi next time damu na.:):cheers:peace!

He he he. . . you are correct, pag wala ka pera para mag-enjoy. Ako pag-wala pera, nasa bahay rin lang ako.

I have visited practically all cities in the Philippines and even small cities have places that will make you enjoy. . . of course you need to have money in your pocket!

Taga saan ka ba? In big metropolis, like New York, London and Tokyo you find few people in the streets at night roaming because most are inside bars and other establishments. In Manila and Jakarta, you will notice that there are a lot roaming in the streets.

From this, what can you conclude?

My friends who all can afford to enjoy a nightlife in Iloilo have never told me a boring nightlife in Iloilo.

Isa pagid gali @robusta kag sa isa ka bag-uhanon nga forumer nga pispis nga mababa ang lipad: Pag nag post kayo, wag nyo naman eh mention ang name ng ibang CIty kasi obvious na eh. Ngapanago ka na gani ga gwa pa buli mo.

Boring gid ang nightlife sa ciudad nyo. I was there last friday sa pinalangga mo na ciudad and bit disappointed sa nightlife nyo dira, boring gid. Mayo lang kay may nag sugat sa akon na friend ko dira kag nag watch na lang kami dvd sa house nila. and one thing i notice sa ilo-ilo, mag lagaw ko sa big malls nyo da la ko ka kita pretty girls.:ohno: Unlike sa dumaguete kag sa Bacolod ga anaw ang mga gwapa sa mall. Sige lang basi next time damu na.:):cheers:peace!


ay toto, diin ikaw nga miya-ok kang Iloilo nagkadto man?? ukon Iloilo gid man gin kadtuan mo??

kon waay ikaw ti mayad nga ihambal sa isa ka lugar, palihog kipota baba mo kay bahu!

ngaa nagapanago kaw sa imo nga username haw? abi pakilala kaw kag panindugi ang imo nga mga ginapanghambal...ano kaw? talaw?

ano ku-on mo? bacolod? dumaguete? purya gaba! indi gani mag-umpisa ha...basi magbalik kanimo ginapanghambal mo!

He he he. . . you are correct, pag wala ka pera para mag-enjoy. Ako pag-wala pera, nasa bahay rin lang ako.

I have visited practically all cities in the Philippines and even small cities have places that will make you enjoy. . . of course you need to have money in your pocket!

Taga saan ka ba? In big metropolis, like New York, London and Tokyo you find few people in the streets at night roaming because most are inside bars and other establishments. In Manila and Jakarta, you will notice that there are a lot roaming in the streets.

From this, what can you conclude?

My friends who all can afford to enjoy a nightlife in Iloilo have never told me a boring nightlife in Iloilo.
Thats right, @ robusta next time you visit Iloilo please let me know ok, I can owe you some money, para maging masaya naman ang visit mo, kasi sayang naman eh, wasting of time kung pupunta ka na walang pera...hinde mo ma enjoy ang night life, yon siguro sinundo ka ng friend mo dahil siguro kahit pamasahe sa taxi or jep man lang wala ka. Kunting ingat lang baka next time pupulutin ka na lng sa Yulo street:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Thats right, @ robusta next time you visit Iloilo please let me know ok, I can owe you some money, para maging masaya naman ang visit mo, kasi sayang naman eh, wasting of time kung pupunta ka na walang pera...hinde mo ma enjoy ang night life, yon siguro sinundo ka ng friend mo dahil siguro kahit pamasahe sa taxi or jep man lang wala ka. Kunting ingat lang baka next time pupulutin ka na lng sa Yulo street:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

ay korek! waay guro ti inugplete...pahulama gani to' collin.:lol::lol::lol:

sagad ka pa saga-saga sa Iloilo waay man lang gali ti kwarta...tapos mag adto dya sa thread nga dya kag mag wakal nga boring kuno...haayy maan tu lang!

Hmmm....why spend your time replying in some useless posts?
Its better you do not destroy your momentum. Anyway, the forumer himself is also uhmm...also pessimistic in what he sees in his hometown (check his posts using the username profile) so I wouldn't wonder why he posts like that. ;)

Much better if we try to understand the cultures of different localities...how can we take advantage of this?

Anyway, there are more things to discuss rather than divulging with night life. Again, Iloilo is still a newbie in its night life status, at least amo na gid aton nga mabaton...nga indi pa ni comparable sa iban nga cities na may established night life na. Knowing the culture, we are reserved and would prefer to enjoy life in a different way. Changing a culture would take years to take. ;)

And for a city that tasted night life in its exuberance before World War II, I wouldn't need to defend whether our night life is boring or not...because before they have it, we already had it. Its just a matter of time and rise and fall, cyclical. :)

I remember one Jesuit priest said, "Your ideas are already above the clouds, have yourself and your ideas touch down the earth."

dp

Hmmm....why spend your time replying in some useless posts?
Its better you do not destroy your momentum. Anyway, the forumer himself is also uhmm...also pessimistic in what he sees in his hometown (check his posts using the username profile) so I wouldn't wonder why he posts like that. ;)

Much better if we try to understand the cultures of different localities...how can we take advantage of this?

Anyway, there are more things to discuss rather than divulging with night life. Again, Iloilo is still a newbie in its night life status, at least amo na gid aton nga mabaton...nga indi pa ni comparable sa iban nga cities na may established night life na. Knowing the culture, we are reserved and would prefer to enjoy life in a different way. Changing a culture would take years to take. ;)

I remember one Jesuit priest said, "Your ideas are already above the clouds, have yourself and your ideas touch down the earth."

well Bernie...in view of his derogatory comments, of course, people tend to be defensive especially kon ginapakanubo na ang isa ka bagay nga importante sa ila.

If he want to be pessimistic, he can be as pessimistic as much as he want but posting such comment would only initiate this kind of reply...may ara gid na nga mabalus...

he he he ... funny comments.

Anyhow, tama na hambal mo Collin. If you don't have enough money to splurge in Iloilo, by all means you will not enjoy the nightlife in the city. Unless you go bar hopping in Smallville with ample of cash in hand, maybe then, it'll be different view in some ways.

Somehow, we are moving well sa aton nightlife sa ciudad. Just please spare Iloilo City by comparing it with other cities. Cos really, it's not worth comparing at all. :)

He he he. . . you are correct, pag wala ka pera para mag-enjoy. Ako pag-wala pera, nasa bahay rin lang ako.

I have visited practically all cities in the Philippines and even small cities have places that will make you enjoy. . . of course you need to have money in your pocket!

Taga saan ka ba? In big metropolis, like New York, London and Tokyo you find few people in the streets at night roaming because most are inside bars and other establishments. In Manila and Jakarta, you will notice that there are a lot roaming in the streets.

From this, what can you conclude?

My friends who all can afford to enjoy a nightlife in Iloilo have never told me a boring nightlife in Iloilo.
absolutely. Nightlife is not a walkathon nor a picture-taking brouhaha. It's how you spend the night enjoying proper bars, discos, theatres, cinemas, fine dining, resto-hopping, etc that makes the difference.
Maybe we have different views of what nightlife is.
Unless begging in the streets, cigarette selling, prostitution, dingy bars, etc are the nightlife we are talking about here.

Isa pagid gali @robusta kag sa isa ka bag-uhanon nga forumer nga pispis nga mababa ang lipad: Pag nag post kayo, wag nyo naman eh mention ang name ng ibang CIty kasi obvious na eh. Ngapanago ka na gani ga gwa pa buli mo.
:lol::lol::lol: i-compare ba naman sa atin. he he he

WHY PAVIA IS ALWAYS NO. 1

ACCORDING to the latest 2007 population census released by the National Statistics Office, the town of Pavia, Iloilo got the highest percentage increase in population. Covering years 2000 – 2007, it jumped from 32,824 to 39,275.

There is a big increase of 19.65 percent.

Under the sterling leadership of Mayor Cadio Gorriceta, four big subdivisions have been developed in Pavia with three more to be established.

The cost of power is also cheap in Pavia. ILECO-1’s electricity is almost half the cost of PECO.

Pavia also has the highest economic growth rate for the last five years.

A friendly town, many businessmen and investors go to Pavia because of the enticing management and leadership of the progressive town.
Congrats to Super Mayor Cadio!
May your tribe increase.

source: Panay News (http://www.panaynewsphilippines.com/lapsus.htm)

^^^^ any update from Iloilo town ranking from NCSB?

Boring gid ang nightlife sa ciudad nyo. I was there last friday sa pinalangga mo na ciudad and bit disappointed sa nightlife nyo dira, boring gid. Mayo lang kay may nag sugat sa akon na friend ko dira kag nag watch na lang kami dvd sa house nila. and one thing i notice sa ilo-ilo, mag lagaw ko sa big malls nyo da la ko ka kita pretty girls.:ohno: Unlike sa dumaguete kag sa Bacolod ga anaw ang mga gwapa sa mall. Sige lang basi next time damu na.:):cheers:peace!

Patawa ka talaga lola collin.kelan pa nagkaron ng nightlife ang iloilo?with your city's high crime rate.7pm pa lang,your city is literally DEAD.yan ang totoong dead.lolz!ang baduy pa ng crowd sa smallville.if meron man nightlife,pag weekend lang.pero Mon-Thursday,its like ghost town in iloilo.walang wala kesa ibang cities sa vizmin.NAPAG IWANAN na siyudad nyo.


haters! haha... ay ahay, ka loner gid guro sa inyo, your life is full of hatred, toink... nami lang na sila kun naka talikod ka, pero kun naka tubang, mga sipunon ma lang gali, gin dalahig pa ang iban na syudad, iloilo wouldn't compete sa iban ah, it has his past present and future, ups and down na mapa bugal mu, amu na kun gina hambalan ma lain ang iloilo, talgsa lang ko ga react, tigulang naman ta, kabalo naman ta mg inchindi... ako sa ila just STFU & Bac the Fac Up, Flat out (,/,)(,\,)... just playin... one time...:bash::lol::)

As promised:

Mang Inasal in Sta Lucia Mall:

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Kumbinsing!

Took this pic while falling in line.

Namit gid man ila manok. Daw sa Iloilo lang JUICY but not OILY!

Loved the chicken oil plus the rice (unlimited!)

yummy!


nice pic... try ko pic ang MI sa Monumento nex time ky bago mana, last month bala ng open...:)

I have a different experience from you rapuy. Here, people view me as bisaya though I am from Iloilo. I have nothing against cebuanos but i just am very comfortable in asserting my ilonggo identity and distancing it from the term bisaya. This is not because i am ashamed of what the term bisaya connotes, rather i just wanted to outline the differences and similarities between the two ethnicities so that manilenos will know who is who.

And i agree with you that the term bisaya is derogatory here because of the maids and houseboys.

One time, i was eating in a carinderia here and one of their servants made a mistake of gathering a customer's half finished meal who only happened to go to the counter to get ketchup. when he returned, he was surprised to find out that the dishses half eaten food were now being placed on top of each other, gathered by the servedora. He fumed and demanded to the owners to replace his meal since he was not finished, he just went to get ketchup. So the owners obliged. Then one of them took the servedora aside and scolded her to first ascertain if the customer has left. Then the other owner told co-owner to understand the servedora because she is a bisaya. Other customers were also murmuring "bisaya kasi kinuha nyo, ayan tuloy, sakit sa ulo" but when i heard her talk in tagalog she had a very heavy ilonggo accent. The customers and owners of the carinderia however viewed her as bisaya because for them, iloilo is in the visayas hence this ilongga is a bisaya hence baduy.

I didn't know if she was from negros or iloilo province but i am very certain she was ilongga. I didn't know what to do to be honest. I was in a room full of tagalogs and perhaps i was the only ilonggo customer, and i really felt degraded. These tagalogs really do feel they are superior to you just because they speak tagalog. I guess that's another motivation for us guys to help in the development and contribution of our hometown and province.

Another experience was that of my friend who when she applied for a job, the interviewer asked her if she knows what a TV is and what it does because after all, she was from the province. Not just any province, but a province in the visayas. Do you notice how tagalogs deal with provincianos? If its a provinciano from lets say, laguna, cavite or bulacan, they're looked down for being provinciano but their admittedly held in higher regard than provincianos based in the visayas who are in addition, looked at with contempt and silent degradation.

Even the bulakeños and caviteños look down at as because my mother was in a wedding where some of the guests were from those two provinces. At the reception, she heard (she was in another table) them say that they're surprised to find out there are also cars here in iloilo city.

How did it come to this? Is there a way to uplift our image?
infairness to other Tagalogs, I haven't heard anything derogatory about Ilonggos. I have worked in Manila for more than 4 years before moving to Europe but none of your experiences, natabo sa akon. And I haven't been called Bisaya as well cos I am an Ilonggo. They knew the difference though. Besides, if ever they'll call you a Bisaya, what's wrong with it? Though I would rather be known for my heritage and an Ilonggo than generalise Bisaya term. Also, I do agree sa inyo that the term Bisaya in Manila has been used in a lot of ways to look down on some people from Visayas and Mindanao. Well, everyone has its own points of view. Depende lang ina siguro. :)

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

ari tsismis sa Iloilo:


PREGNANT WITH INTRIGUES

THE recent luncheon meeting of Iloilo mayors was held at the Iloilo Golf and Country Club at Sta. Barbara.

“Sosyal ha?” one of the mayors hollered.

First-class food was served to the delight of the hardworking mayors.
It turned out that the lunch was “sponsored” by Fil-Estate Company, also known as Toti Mabunay Cariño’s company.

Keen observers interpret this sudden generosity as:
1) Fil-Estate is making PR to mayors because of its future expansion in the province;

2) Because it has ongoing projects in Pavia and Sta. Barbara, both 2nd District towns;

3) Because Toti Mabunay Cariño is ALREADY starting to establish rapport with 2nd District mayors.

“Sadya dya,” said a Karay-a speaking mayor.
Mayor Mulong “dies-dies” laughing.
Say mo, Primo Mayor Beloy?

source: Panay News (http://www.panaynewsphilippines.com/lapsus.htm)

SM Prime to open two more malls in China, 14 more locally
CEBU — Mall operator SM Prime Holdings, Inc. plans to open one or two more malls in China even as it continues to expand its mall network in the Philippines over the next five years.

Expansion in China would be initially slow as the company tries to build its brand, strengthen its organization and gather financial strength, SM Prime President Hans T. Sy said.

"Our China direction mirrors our growth story," Mr. Sy said on the sidelines of a project launch.


He noted that when the company went public in 1995 it had only four malls. The company now has 31, but the last 17 malls were built in the last five years, he pointed out.

Last week, the mall operator launched its SM City Cebu Northwing, the annex building that provides an additional leasable area of 17,677 square meters. The SM mall in Cebu, which has a total leasable area of about 130,000 square meters, is the fourth largest in the country.

China, however, is the next logical site for expansion when SM Prime completes its targeted 45 malls in the Philippines, Mr. Sy said.

The company’s 31 SM malls nationwide have a gross floor area of nearly three million square meters. Its biggest is the Mall of Asia in Pasay City and the newest is SM Marikina, which was opened last month.

"We’re looking at 45 [malls] here... What comes next? That’s where China comes in. But we need to build up our brand there first. Here, everybody knows SM. But not many know about SM in China," Mr. Sy said.

SM recently acquired three malls in China and is building a fourth mall in Chongqing, the commercial capital of southwest China. The existing malls are in Xiamen, Jinjiang and Chengdu.

The Chongqing mall will be completed in two years. In the meantime, Mr. Sy said, they are keeping their radars for other opportunities in China.

SM Prime is eyeing growth of 5% to 10% and is proceeding with its expansion plans this year despite the financial crisis in the US and Europe.

To fuel growth, SM Prime is banking on Filipinos working abroad and their relatives, as well as on shoppers who may have to stay in the country instead of going to Hong Kong and other shopping destinations overseas.

"I was in Hong Kong and I assured and reassured our investors that we are very much on track and we are still continuing with our expansion program. We’re not affected by the crisis," Mr. Sy said.

SM Prime is scheduled to open malls in Pangasinan and Bulacan and expand SM Megamall and SM Fairview later this year.

Mr. Sy said they have kept communication lines with the Cebu City government open for a planned mall at the South Road Properties, a 300-hectare greenfield development in the southern part of the city. SM Prime is also looking for properties in the northern part of Cebu.

There are four SM malls in the Visayas — one in Cebu, one in Bacolod City and two in Iloilo City. The plan is to build three or four more, Mr. Sy said.
Meanwhile, SM Investments Corp., the holding company of the Sy family’s SM Group, does not plan to list unit SM Land, Inc. on the stock exchange.

"I don’t think that is the plan. We’re just consolidating all property assets in SM Land," said Mr. Sy, who is also the first executive vice-president of SM Investments Corp.

SM Group consolidated its property assets under Shoemart, Inc. last year. Shoemart has been renamed SM Land as the company tries to be more transparent and unlock the value of its assets.

Mr. Sy said SM Land is on the lookout for properties to develop outside Luzon. SM Land projects are all in Luzon, including Hamilo Coast, a 5,700-hectare network of coastal resort communities in Nasugbu, Batangas. — Marites S. Villamor

tani ma dugangan pa gid ta isa di...:lol: 3 Sm Supermarkets and 1 Savemore Supermarket gali diri sa Iloilo, tani ang Sm City himuon nila Hypermarket pra daw complete...:)

well Bernie...in view of his derogatory comments, of course, people tend to be defensive especially kon ginapakanubo na ang isa ka bagay nga importante sa ila.

If he want to be pessimistic, he can be as pessimistic as much as he want but posting such comment would only initiate this kind of reply...may ara gid na nga mabalus...

he he he ... funny comments.

Anyhow, tama na hambal mo Collin. If you don't have enough money to splurge in Iloilo, by all means you will not enjoy the nightlife in the city. Unless you go bar hopping in Smallville with ample of cash in hand, maybe then, it'll be different view in some ways.

Somehow, we are moving well sa aton nightlife sa ciudad. Just please spare Iloilo City by comparing it with other cities. Cos really, it's not worth comparing at all. :)

absolutely. Nightlife is not a walkathon nor a picture-taking brouhaha. It's how you spend the night enjoying proper bars, discos, theatres, cinemas, fine dining, resto-hopping, etc that makes the difference.
Maybe we have different views of what nightlife is.
Unless begging in the streets, cigarette selling, prostitution, dingy bars, etc are the nightlife we are talking about here.

Just let him be if he wants to say that. It may be derogatory but really its not worth the time and effort if we are to be defensive. Might as well give them the benefit of the doubt because really, night life is not the basis of one's economic prowess.

And these people have nothing to do but to make crabs out of themselves.

At least the night life in the city has been moving out from once "convent-curfewed" Iloilo City. This sector is also enjoying its rebirth after several decades of dormancy.

On my point of view, Iloilo City has tasted this kind of exuberant night life during the late 19th Century and most especially during the Commonwealth Era. Bars, restos, Casino Espanol, brothels, bodabil, theatres or anything that a night urbanite creature would want to entertain himself. So why bother that Iloilo City is backward? We have to be glad that she is making a come back one step at a time. :)


WHY PAVIA IS ALWAYS NO. 1


ACCORDING to the latest 2007 population census released by the National Statistics Office, the town of Pavia, Iloilo got the highest percentage increase in population. Covering years 2000 – 2007, it jumped from 32,824 to 39,275.

There is a big increase of 19.65 percent.

Under the sterling leadership of Mayor Cadio Gorriceta, four big subdivisions have been developed in Pavia with three more to be established.

The cost of power is also cheap in Pavia. ILECO-1’s electricity is almost half the cost of PECO.

Pavia also has the highest economic growth rate for the last five years.

A friendly town, many businessmen and investors go to Pavia because of the enticing management and leadership of the progressive town.
Congrats to Super Mayor Cadio!
May your tribe increase.

source: Panay News (http://www.panaynewsphilippines.com/lapsus.htm)

^^^^ any update from Iloilo town ranking from NCSB?


Not IRA dependent and most of its money comes from local income.
Town with most number of industrial establishments in the region (not boasting and to confirm call DTI).
Cheaper power (ILECO provided)
Between the city and the airport
A more gentle climate
Accessibility has gone up unlike before.
Small town but has some good projects by the LGU.
LGU has been supportive with the investors, despite RAIC not been successful but it has made its impact in how to treat investors.
Catch basin of urban core of Iloilo City.

However, there are some things that they need to improve such as:


Flood control (well I hope that when the flood control project is finished, it would help augment the perennial flooding).
Increase road infrastructure.
Reliable power.
Attract more investors.

Boring gid ang nightlife sa ciudad nyo. I was there last friday sa pinalangga mo na ciudad and bit disappointed sa nightlife nyo dira, boring gid. Mayo lang kay may nag sugat sa akon na friend ko dira kag nag watch na lang kami dvd sa house nila. and one thing i notice sa ilo-ilo, mag lagaw ko sa big malls nyo da la ko ka kita pretty girls.:ohno: Unlike sa dumaguete kag sa Bacolod ga anaw ang mga gwapa sa mall. Sige lang basi next time damu na.:):cheers:peace!

i dont think so... actually, ang mga gwapa sa amon ciudad inde pareho sa mga girls nyo da... both are unique.. pero mas hamot gid ya ang mga babayi di sa iloilo... but actually.. indi nightlife ang basehan if economic dynamism pagaistoryahan... iloilo may not be like cebu, manila, or davao... or your city... in terms of nightlife.. or not as lively as u said... but we have our own uniqueness which ur city doesnt have.... indi kinahanglan sang mga gwapa diri magpasayang-sayang sng itsura nila sa malls... indi batasan sng mga ilonggo (nga taga-iloilo) ang magpasikat... feeling rich kumbaga. What is important wla ka galukdo sako kag gatrabaho lng sa kampo.... and thnx na recognize mo ang mga bigmalls diri sa iloilo... much bigger compared to ur city... madamu pa nga mga butang/bagay ang wla sa ciudad mo..nga ari na di sa amon... and besides... bacolod or dumaguete (nga hambal mo) or ur city..is nothing compared to iloilo city... (no offense ha).. damu pa kamu dapat idevelope bag-o nyo maabot status sng iloilo.. like first-class infra, level of education, tourism (festivals, resorts), transportation/accessibility, agriculture-aquaculture supply and most of all.. professional behaviour... sa itsura pa lng cguro sng mga jeepneys..waay na ibuga ang syudad mo.. diin ka kita jeep nga design nya starex? diri lng sa iloilo noy... basi sa inyo puro pa pagalpalon... and.. nightlife gid lng pwede mapabugal sng city nyo?.. sa amon damu... iloilo (bisan buki panan-awan mo) is the foodbasket of south philippines (one of the top producer of land and sea products). indi mo na pwede ma deny...kay basi ang bugas nga ginakaon mo, halin pa di sa amon, kag ang bangrus nga sud-an mo diri ginbunit sa amon.. nagalagas man kami in terms sa BPO ang istoryahan.. we have produced lots of ilustrados.. since spanish era.. Lopez-jaena..sa present.. businessmen like lopezes, florete (of bombo radyo)... and senators, justices and cabinet members.. nakaproduce kamo sina?..... actually, cebu ang ginalagas namon..vying/gaininng for our lost crown as the queen.... and, wla kami dapat lagson sa city mo... lastly..pls never underestimate us ilonggos...basi mamus-on ka garab...heheheh:nuts:

^^ haha... tawa gid ko sa comment mo, amu na ya...:lol::lol::lol: BTW duganng mu pa gid seven ka justices halin sa Molo ang naka labot sa national scene, batian ko na ky JOE III sa programa niya na Tatak Ilonggo duagay na...:)

Guys I think we should be discussing more on our side rather than comparing and bashing. Because for one, I would prefer not to concentrate my efforts with these insecure people. After all, we cannot please all people. But please let us be mature and show professionalism in our posts, just avoid comparisons and the like...let us show our urbanidad please.

Thanks! :)

Patawa ka talaga lola collin.kelan pa nagkaron ng nightlife ang iloilo?with your city's high crime rate.7pm pa lang,your city is literally DEAD.yan ang totoong dead.lolz!ang baduy pa ng crowd sa smallville.if meron man nightlife,pag weekend lang.pero Mon-Thursday,its like ghost town in iloilo.walang wala kesa ibang cities sa vizmin.NAPAG IWANAN na siyudad nyo.

actually amigo.. centralized ang nightlife sa iloilo... some other places are more on restos, kapehan and ihawan.. and mas prefer ng mga ilonggo ang kumain.. kumain..at kumain..kasi maraming pagkain dito.... at, amoy pinipig mga girls dito... sa inyo? amoy durian? soweee:ohno:

^^ By the way Ralph, Dabawagila I believe is not a forumer from Davao. I have confirmed this with some forumers there. I also requested some monitoring.

Sorry if I'm annoying but please don't let your emotions consume you with these trollish posts.

Guys I think we should be discussing more on our side rather than comparing and bashing. Because for one, I would prefer not to concentrate my efforts with these insecure people. After all, we cannot please all people. But please let us be mature and show professionalism in our posts, just avoid comparisons and the like...let us show our urbanidad please.

Thanks! :)

My sincere apology migs... na highblood lng ko..hehehehe... pero..tsakto ka... xensya na po..

originally postedby:ROBUSTA

Boring gid ang nightlife sa ciudad nyo. I was there last friday sa pinalangga mo na ciudad and bit disappointed sa nightlife nyo dira, boring gid. Mayo lang kay may nag sugat sa akon na friend ko dira kag nag watch na lang kami dvd sa house nila. and one thing i notice sa ilo-ilo, mag lagaw ko sa big malls nyo da la ko ka kita pretty girls. Unlike sa dumaguete kag sa Bacolod ga anaw ang mga gwapa sa mall. Sige lang basi next time damu na.peace!



TO ROBUSTA


nga-a taga diin ka gid nga manghikay ka?

Guapo ka gid haw!!!! post ko abi ang imo nawong kay lantawon ko kun maayo ayo gid?

Thats right, @ robusta next time you visit Iloilo please let me know ok, I can owe you some money, para maging masaya naman ang visit mo, kasi sayang naman eh, wasting of time kung pupunta ka na walang pera...hinde mo ma enjoy ang night life, yon siguro sinundo ka ng friend mo dahil siguro kahit pamasahe sa taxi or jep man lang wala ka. Kunting ingat lang baka next time pupulutin ka na lng sa Yulo street:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

actually naglakat lang sila kay wala gid sila wawarts....hay louy man....mayo lang wala sila ma "PANATANG MAKABAYAN BA" hahahahahaha:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Boring gid ang nightlife sa ciudad nyo. I was there last friday sa pinalangga mo na ciudad and bit disappointed sa nightlife nyo dira, boring gid. Mayo lang kay may nag sugat sa akon na friend ko dira kag nag watch na lang kami dvd sa house nila. and one thing i notice sa ilo-ilo, mag lagaw ko sa big malls nyo da la ko ka kita pretty girls.:ohno: Unlike sa dumaguete kag sa Bacolod ga anaw ang mga gwapa sa mall. Sige lang basi next time damu na.:):cheers:peace!

daw si Tom Cruise maghambal eh!

wala ka may nakita nga gwapa that day kay bal-an nila nga wala man gwapo sa mall that time! peace man ah!

as promised:

mang Inasal in Sta Lucia:

http://i34.tinypic.com/2413z94.jpg

Kumbinsing! :banana: :banana: :banana:


May mang inasal din sa bagyo... kunan ko pic next time...

:applause::applause::applause:i dont think so... actually, ang mga gwapa sa amon ciudad inde pareho sa mga girls nyo da... both are unique.. pero mas hamot gid ya ang mga babayi di sa iloilo... but actually.. indi nightlife ang basehan if economic dynamism pagaistoryahan... iloilo may not be like cebu, manila, or davao... or your city... in terms of nightlife.. or not as lively as u said... but we have our own uniqueness which ur city doesnt have.... indi kinahanglan sang mga gwapa diri magpasayang-sayang sng itsura nila sa malls... indi batasan sng mga ilonggo (nga taga-iloilo) ang magpasikat... feeling rich kumbaga. What is important wla ka galukdo sako kag gatrabaho lng sa kampo.... and thnx na recognize mo ang mga bigmalls diri sa iloilo... much bigger compared to ur city... madamu pa nga mga butang/bagay ang wla sa ciudad mo..nga ari na di sa amon... and besides... bacolod or dumaguete (nga hambal mo) or ur city..is nothing compared to iloilo city... (no offense ha).. damu pa kamu dapat idevelope bag-o nyo maabot status sng iloilo.. like first-class infra, level of education, tourism (festivals, resorts), transportation/accessibility, agriculture-aquaculture supply and most of all.. professional behaviour... sa itsura pa lng cguro sng mga jeepneys..waay na ibuga ang syudad mo.. diin ka kita jeep nga design nya starex? diri lng sa iloilo noy... basi sa inyo puro pa pagalpalon... and.. nightlife gid lng pwede mapabugal sng city nyo?.. sa amon damu... iloilo (bisan buki panan-awan mo) is the foodbasket of south philippines (one of the top producer of land and sea products). indi mo na pwede ma deny...kay basi ang bugas nga ginakaon mo, halin pa di sa amon, kag ang bangrus nga sud-an mo diri ginbunit sa amon.. nagalagas man kami in terms sa BPO ang istoryahan.. we have produced lots of ilustrados.. since spanish era.. Lopez-jaena..sa present.. businessmen like lopezes, florete (of bombo radyo)... and senators, justices and cabinet members.. nakaproduce kamo sina?..... actually, cebu ang ginalagas namon..vying/gaininng for our lost crown as the queen.... and, wla kami dapat lagson sa city mo... lastly..pls never underestimate us ilonggos...basi mamus-on ka garab...heheheh:nuts:


:lol::lol::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

Guys, can we just stop this bashing and response with the troll thingy? Because its just not worthed. I hope your listening even if I myself am not a moderator. Madamu pa ta pwede idiscuss indi lang na ina. Tani we keep our emotions at bay. I hope we don't act as immature kids.

Thanks!

OK Peace lets move on! pero mamalakpak ko anay ah:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

:bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::lol::lol::lol::lol::)

Boring gid ang nightlife sa ciudad nyo. I was there last friday sa pinalangga mo na ciudad and bit disappointed sa nightlife nyo dira, boring gid. Mayo lang kay may nag sugat sa akon na friend ko dira kag nag watch na lang kami dvd sa house nila. and one thing i notice sa ilo-ilo, mag lagaw ko sa big malls nyo da la ko ka kita pretty girls.:ohno: Unlike sa dumaguete kag sa Bacolod ga anaw ang mga gwapa sa mall. Sige lang basi next time damu na.:):cheers:peace!

I think this is the reason why Stabucks has plans to put up 2 branches in iloilo and one branch in bacolod. The market research done by starbucks (this was told to me by my ilongga contact in the said company) revealed that the market cannot support more than one branch because the market's middle class is too thin, like paper, and cannot support the brand if it would open more than one branch. Concededly, the upper class there is far wealthier and far numerous than in iloilo, however, many of them are now in the states and only the mansions are now left there. In iloilo, the market research concluded that the market could support the brand because of the presence of numerous banks and schools, thus more students and profesionals who could patronize the brand.

The relation to nene robusta's comment is that, starbuck's market research found the market there to be spenders not savers. Where they get their money however to spend comes from debt. That's not my opinion, that's a coffeechain's conclusion. Anyway, since majority of the market there borrow heavily to spend and pretend, to the extent that they are already drowning in debt, starbucks has decided to put up one branch. In iloilo, the market is considered to be savers and not spenders to the extent that there is wealth, but this is not however flaunted and spent mindlessly. The good news is, the level of debt is low and therefore the middle class and upper class is standing on solid ground and can therefore support 2 branches of the brand.

With regard to ilonggas not being pretty, it is my two cents worth of opinion that the brilliant and good looking people of iloilo are found in manila and abroad (particularly in california) to pursue college education if not higher education because. It is only right that the people could send its most goodlooking to manila to study because being savers, we have that much moolah, that much capacity to spend. In the other city, since they borrow heavily, they cannot afford to send their beautiful people to topnotch and elite institutions abroad, only a minority could do it. That explains why there are many pretty girls in nene robusta's place. The pretty girls there don't have cash to afford an elite education.

One examply we have is berns. Now berns is an ilonggo, and good looking, but you cannot find his good looking persona in iloilo right now because he is in the ateneo the manila to pursue masteral studies and he isn't even rich, he's middle class, but because his parents are savers, he could afford an elite education.

One last thing, i think it is only right that the forumers here have risen to the occasion to defend our hometown because by their comments, it is a big slap to our faces because this is our forum and not theirs, they are only guests and for guests to come inside our house and slap our face is a great indignity which we must not tolerate. If this were a crime, there is already the aggravating circumstance of dwelling (wherein the victim is inside the house and the perpetrator is an outsider who went inside to kill the owner of the house) which would increase the penalty. At any rate then, i think that if this happens again, i think we should react the same way because if we keep on being meek, they will expect us to keep on being meek and keep on attacking us in our house, or in this case, in our thread.

ralph fiennes, di bala sa Baguio ka subong? I'm here at Baguio galagaw-lagaw. Ngita ko di' gwapa kay wala kuno gwapa sa Iloilo.

ralph fiennes, di bala sa Baguio ka subong? I'm here at Baguio galagaw-lagaw. Ngita ko di' gwapa kay wala kuno gwapa sa Iloilo.

OO migs.... gapalumot di sa apartment... day-off mo.. welcome sa baguio pre.. enjoy mo lng stay di ah... damu di gwapa.. pero di ko type ila odor:ohno:, although mahamot cla, pero lain gid ya ang smell ka ilongga... gusto mo makakita gwapa? lagaw ka karon sa gab-i... damo gwapa sa session road, very alive ang baguio sa gab-i kag sa bisan kaagahon... hambal lng kun ano nga place gusto mo makaita gwapa..kun medyo disente ka.. damu da sa SM city..pero kun iban pa.... tudluan ta ka kun diin...:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I think this is the reason why Stabucks has plans to put up 2 branches in iloilo and one branch in bacolod. The market research done by starbucks (this was told to me by my ilongga contact in the said company) revealed that the market cannot support more than one branch because the market's middle class is too thin, like paper, and cannot support the brand if it would open more than one branch. Concededly, the upper class there is far wealthier and far numerous than in iloilo, however, many of them are now in the states and only the mansions are now left there. In iloilo, the market research concluded that the market could support the brand because of the presence of numerous banks and schools, thus more students and profesionals who could patronize the brand.

The relation to nene robusta's comment is that, starbuck's market research found the market there to be spenders not savers. Where they get their money however to spend comes from debt. That's not my opinion, that's a coffeechain's conclusion. Anyway, since majority of the market there borrow heavily to spend and pretend, to the extent that they are already drowning in debt, starbucks has decided to put up one branch. In iloilo, the market is considered to be savers and not spenders to the extent that there is wealth, but this is not however flaunted and spent mindlessly. The good news is, the level of debt is low and therefore the middle class and upper class is standing on solid ground and can therefore support 2 branches of the brand.

With regard to ilonggas not being pretty, it is my two cents worth of opinion that the brilliant and good looking people of iloilo are found in manila and abroad (particularly in california) to pursue college education if not higher education because. It is only right that the people could send its most goodlooking to manila to study because being savers, we have that much moolah, that much capacity to spend. In the other city, since they borrow heavily, they cannot afford to send their beautiful people to topnotch and elite institutions abroad, only a minority could do it. That explains why there are many pretty girls in nene robusta's place. The pretty girls there don't have cash to afford an elite education.

One examply we have is berns. Now berns is an ilonggo, and good looking, but you cannot find his good looking persona in iloilo right now because he is in the ateneo the manila to pursue masteral studies and he isn't even rich, he's middle class, but because his parents are savers, he could afford an elite education.

One last thing, i think it is only right that the forumers here have risen to the occasion to defend our hometown because by their comments, it is a big slap to our faces because this is our forum and not theirs, they are only guests and for guests to come inside our house and slap our face is a great indignity which we must not tolerate. If this were a crime, there is already the aggravating circumstance of dwelling (wherein the victim is inside the house and the perpetrator is an outsider who went inside to kill the owner of the house) which would increase the penalty. At any rate then, i think that if this happens again, i think we should react the same way because if we keep on being meek, they will expect us to keep on being meek and keep on attacking us in our house, or in this case, in our thread.

^^nice info... this what i like sa taga iloilo, ky hipos hipos lang na pro damu kwarta gali sa bangko, indi pa manol...:)

I will still choose ilongga...and I already have one indi na pwede buslan pa sang iban. :)
I went to SM City a while ago and I'm now at Bus Terminal going back to Manila.

Found out that there is already Mang Inasal here in Baguio.


OO migs.... gapalumot di sa apartment... day-off mo.. welcome sa baguio pre.. enjoy mo lng stay di ah... damu di gwapa.. pero di ko type ila odor:ohno:, although mahamot cla, pero lain gid ya ang smell ka ilongga... gusto mo makakita gwapa? lagaw ka karon sa gab-i... damo gwapa sa session road, very alive ang baguio sa gab-i kag sa bisan kaagahon... hambal lng kun ano nga place gusto mo makaita gwapa..kun medyo disente ka.. damu da sa SM city..pero kun iban pa.... tudluan ta ka kun diin...:lol::lol::lol::lol:

^^^^ he he he ... the bitchiness of Ilonggos indi gid matago. "Haler" kuno hambal sang upod ko di. Gakadlaw siya kay gaguluwa gid ang binatasan niyo nga duna sa aton. he he he.

I totlally agree with Kaltehitze gid. Amo ina iya! :bash::bash::bash:

Boring gid ang nightlife sa ciudad nyo. I was there last friday sa pinalangga mo na ciudad and bit disappointed sa nightlife nyo dira, boring gid. Mayo lang kay may nag sugat sa akon na friend ko dira kag nag watch na lang kami dvd sa house nila. and one thing i notice sa ilo-ilo, mag lagaw ko sa big malls nyo da la ko ka kita pretty girls.:ohno: Unlike sa dumaguete kag sa Bacolod ga anaw ang mga gwapa sa mall. Sige lang basi next time damu na.:):cheers:peace!

Patawa ka talaga lola collin.kelan pa nagkaron ng nightlife ang iloilo?with your city's high crime rate.7pm pa lang,your city is literally DEAD.yan ang totoong dead.lolz!ang baduy pa ng crowd sa smallville.if meron man nightlife,pag weekend lang.pero Mon-Thursday,its like ghost town in iloilo.walang wala kesa ibang cities sa vizmin.NAPAG IWANAN na siyudad nyo.

these biased comments never affect me at all. when we came home to iloilo last may we brought a friend from california and 2 friends from bataan with us. they have nothing but praises for their iloilo experience-the food, heritage houses, smallville and most especially the warmth of the ilonggos.

No Knowledge, No Progress: 11th Knowledge Development Center opens in Iloilo

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WB Country Director Bert Hofman,
Chairman of CPU Mancon Dr. Agustin
Pulido, KDC Iloilo chair Prof. Victory
Dionio, Mayor Jerry Treñas, Alfonso Uy
and Gov Niel Tupas Sr.

What's going to happen to the world when people lack knowledge? There won't be any progress, of course.

One of the important aspects of progress is having a know-how of things around us, for such knowledge can be used to pursue a country's ideals. Acquiring knowledge requires resources and for those areas that are lacking of such, thankfully, there are organizations that are concerned enough to provide this.

The World Bank is one example. Many think that the WB is about lending money. Little did they know that this organization embarks on several projects that could uplift the community. One of these projects is the Knowledge for Development Center (KDC). A KDC is a hub for dialogue and research on development issues and implemented by the WB together with educational institutions in key cities in the country. These centers are user-friendly, easily accessible for everybody, without cost.

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Atty Zacarias Bedona, dean of CPU
College of Law and company.

The 11th KDC is in Iloilo City, specifically at the Central Philippine University's Henry Luce III Library. The KDC here is a library that is filled with vast materials as well as tables and lounges where one can feel relaxed while doing research. The KDC is open from Monday to Friday, at 8 am to 12noon and 1 to 5 pm.

Even before the KDC had been established in CPU, Prof. Victoryu Dionio, KDC chairperson, said that the university had been a depository of print materials and online resources of the WB. "This is not just a site for knowledge or sharing sessions with others but an avenue for students to develop skills in a holistic environment. These students can help change the country and the world as well," she added.

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Booth of CPU's Institute of Packaging
Professionals.

Mayor Jerry P. Trenas expressed happiness with the launching of KDC, considered as the first in Western Visayas. "Knowledge is important so we can make intelligent decisions on matters that are important to us," he said. He also informed those present that WB's help in the city had been extensive, apart from KDC. Potable water and computerization programs of the city had been made possible through the WB, too.

source: The News Today (http://thenewstoday.info/2008/10/13/no.knowledge.no.progress.html)

^^^^^^ CPU did it again! :banana::banana::banana: The University Library, apart from being the depository of WHO, WB is also banking several research materials, etc. Indeed, CPU and CPU's Henry Luce III Library has gone a long, long way. Another first in WVs schools and universities. Hala Bira! :banana::banana::banana::banana:

Sin-o na sya, space? Kilala ko? Haler man!!! hehehe! Pakabuot na ko budlay na mautdan 'ta manoy!

Enjoy lang ko 'ya kaun sang Mang Inasal sa SM City Baguio...wala ko sapak mga gwapa kay gutom ako....hehehe!

^^^^ anhon ta guwapa kung wala ibuga ... iya na lang ina. he he he.
Enjoy Baguio, Lewdsaint. I was there 5 years ago. I'm sure damo na nagbag-o sa ila, just as many good things happened (and are happening) in Iloilo as well.

phrase to share: "Catch Us If You Can!" :banana::banana::banana:

Here's few more things for Ilonggos to INDULGE in terms of EDUCATION!

from WVCST Official Website:

Five World Links Centers to be established

Five educational institutions will receive a technology and professional development grant from the Philippines to become regional centers for ICT-curriculum integration. Chosen by FIT-ED, the partner in the Philippines of the international NGO World Links after a rigorous selection process were the following:

1. College of Education, Mariano Marcos State University in Laoag City

2. College of Education, Saint Louis University in Baguio City

3. Western Visayas College of science and Technology in Iloilo City

4. Department of Education Schools Division of Cebu Province in Cebu City; and

5. College of Education, Mindanao State University – Iligan Institute of Technology in Iligan City

The World Links Centers started operating in May 2008 and will serve as a resource hub for teacher educators, education researchers, and students in their respective regions. Each center has developed a three-year program that includes delivering teacher pre-development workshops on designing and implementing ICT-supported learning activities and tellecollaboration projects, developing and disseminating ICT supported instructional materials, pedagogical support and mentoring to local teachers; supporting research activities in the area of technology use and initiating community outreach activities.

The World Links Philippines program is part of the Southeast Asian program of World Links, with extensive experience in Africa, Latin America, and the Arab Region in developing local capacity in curriculum integration. The Southeast Asia Programs is funded by a grant from the World Bank, Japan Social Development Fund. Other countries covered by the grant are Cambodia, Indonesia and Vietnam. mcg ( A reprint from http://fit-ed.org/news/php )

^^^^ it means, for WVCST, it's not only for specific college BUT the entire WVCST! Grabe! :banana::banana::banana::banana:

The Queen Mother of the South
By Tessa C. Mauricio

“Welcome to the Queen City of the South!”

A visitor to Iloilo City is bound to receive this greeting several times—at the airport tarmac, even in quaint, little pastry shops where the city’s famed barquillos and galletas are made.

Eight out of 10 such visitors would then most likely scan the immediate vicinity and check if the plane had landed in Cebu instead. And when the visitor is finally convinced that the sights and sounds are distinctly Iloilo’s, the inevitable question would follow: “How could there be two Queen Cities of the South?”

“The original Queen City is really Iloilo; not Cebu,” says the first-ever woman Tourism secretary of the Philippines; a true-blooded Ilongga by the name of Narzalina Z. Lim. And the manner by which she and her kababayans would make the claim— in the typical melodious Ilonggo voice and an amiable smile—can well, in fact, settle the matter immediately. But of course, facts need to be laid down, lest a conflict ensues between the two Visayan cities.

Iloilo’s reign
Iloilo, or Irong-Irong as it was called before the Spanish invasion, has always been a prosperous province. Its rich agricultural lands and numerous ports have been the major factors toward its continued progress. By the mid-1800s, Iloilo emerged as the biggest center of commerce and trade in the Visayas and Mindanao; second only to Manila.

Fast forward to the 1900s—the establishment of roads, a railway line, an airport, and the surge of the sugar industry in between—Iloilo rightly received her crown as the Queen City of the South. And not only did she prosper in agriculture and commerce, but she also regaled the rest of the nation with grand architectural structures, superior educational establishments, the most glittering of socials, and lively cultural festivities.

Soon, Her Majesty’s able sons became the country’s most important business pioneers,
among them, Eugenio Lopez, Gregorio Araneta, and a host of other prominent family names, who reaped sweet success from sugar planting. Iloilo, of course, was proud of her children, but there was a price to be paid.

While these entrepreneurs and hacienderos continued to spread their wings—whether to find more land in Bacolod, or to set up industries in Cebu and Manila—the dynamic progress that had long been synonymous to Iloilo eventually plateaued, and dulled the luster of Her Majesty’s crown. Thereafter, Cebu was anointed as the new Queen of the Visayas.

Her glorious past, alive and well
Despite Iloilo’s “dethronement,” a visit to the former Queen City of the South would explain why her sons and daughters refuse to let go of her previous title. She is still majestic, what with rich remnants of her glorious past that stand proud to this very day.

If Luzon boasts of Vigan as its Heritage City, then the Visayas should do the same of Iloilo. Spread around the province are ancient churches and vintage homes dating as far back as the 1800s.

Her churches. Truly breathtaking—and perhaps Iloilo’s greatest treasure—is the Miag-ao Fortress Church. Built in 1786, the church is included in the Unesco World Heritage List, and remains to be one of the most photographed landmarks in the Philippines.

While Miag-ao’s yellow stone structure is reminiscent of the great temples of Aztec art, the church’s details are unique for they bear touches of the local culture. The facade, for example, displays an intricate carving of St. Christopher with the boy Jesus on his shoulders, enjoying the shade of a bountiful palm tree. This very Filipino setting is guarded by two dissimilar bell towers, which according to history, once served as lookout points for piratical attacks in the province.

The church of Sta. Barbara is another well-restored old-world structure outside the city proper, while the cathedrals of Molo and Jaro near the center are also crowd drawers. They too are architectural feats, made more interesting by unique concepts: Molo Cathedral is home to 16 statues of all-female saints, while Jaro houses an all-male counterpart.

Her homes. The old world feel of Iloilo does not end with her numerous churches. The Jaro District, which gave birth to the country’s first-ever millionaire’s lane, delights tourists with vintage houses at every corner. Most enchanting is the 200-year-old Javellana ancestral home, whose ownership is passed on to the eldest child of every succeeding generation.

Now under the care of solar power entrepreneur Robert “Panchito” Lopez Puckett, the restored Spanish house of wood and stone is referred to as “Casa Mariquit”—Mariquit being Panchito’s grandmother, a third-generation Javellana and wife to former vice president Fernando Lopez Sr.

Panchito employed the services of restoration experts from Intramuros when he inherited the house in the late eighties, and they did excellent job in polishing Mariquit’s dark wood floors and balustrades, her wrought iron ventanillas, and colorful stained glass windows.

Lining Jaro’s main road, meanwhile, is Nely’s Garden, whose long, tree-lined drive leads to a decades’ old white mansion, the ancestral home of the wealthy Lopez clan; as well as the Boat House, a multilevel art-deco-inspired abode, which serves as the vacation house of the late Eugenio Lopez Sr.’s brood.

Her story. What enhances the pleasure of visiting Iloilo’s ancient treasures are the stories that her children are always eager to share at every destination. How Miag-ao became home to refugees during the war; the miracle of Molo Cathedral’s Virgin Mary when El Niño hit the province; and how Panchito’s grandfather happily leased the beautiful Javellana home to a school for a mere P300 in the mid-eighties.

These and more are the stories that have sparked a renewed vigor in the Ilonggos to give back the city her crown. “When we look around us,” they say, “we realize she never did lose her crown for Iloilo continues to be as rich as ever.” What she is, without a doubt, is the Queen Mother of the South. She gave birth to many economies in the Visayas, and she has, all these years, kept her treasures alive and well.

The city’s sons and daughters
More than ever, the Ilonggos are hopeful that they will soon restore their beloved city to her old glory. They find inspiration in the work of reelected mayor Jerry Trenas, who since his first term has left no stones unturned in ensuring that Iloilo continues to prosper.

Trenas has rightly identified tourism as a potent force in furthering the city’s economy, and restoring the distinction she once had in the Visayas.

Thus far, the forward-thinking mayor has fueled an equally dynamic group of Ilonggos to promote Iloilo as a rich tourist destination, as well as a city that can ably host international and national conventions. Formed only in the beginning of the year, the Iloilo City Convention Bureau (ICCB) already shows much promise in fulfilling the task with Ma. Teresa S. Sarabia, Ph.D as president, former Tourism secretary Narzalina Lim as marketing representative and consultant, and representatives from Iloilo’s major hotels as members.

“The group is working together to come up with competitive rates and packages that will entice both tourists and those looking for convention sites to consider Iloilo, for the city truly has a lot of potential,” Lim asserts. “We have the facilities to cater to large convention groups, who after business is out of the way, can savor the original La Paz Batchoy; shop for lace and sinamay; visit the old churches and houses; enjoy young attractions like Casa Fiametta where they can go horseback riding or trekking; or even as a starting point for a trip to the beaches of Guimaras and Boracay.”

Gifted with such inviting possibilities, the ICCB and the people of Iloilo City are all set to welcome visitors to the province, and put her back on the proverbial map. And with sons and daughters like the members of the ICCB, there should be no reason why the original Queen City of the South cannot shine as bright as before in the island of Visayas.

The ICCB would like to thank Cebu Pacific for sponsoring the recent media familiarization tour to Iloilo City.

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Sorry I don't have the original link, but I've had this article saved for a long time.

World Bank is now in CPU

10 June 2008 by infocenter



CPU through separate memoranda of agreements entered
into partnerships with World Bank for the following:

1. Designation of CPU as depository of formally published
print publications and CD-ROM products and a collection
of on-line databases.

2. Establishment of a Knowledge for Development Center
(KDC) program at CPU for the promotion of knowledge
sharing. The University will organize and facilitate dialogues, consultations and knowledge-sharing sessions with the academe, media, government, NGOs, and other stakeholders in the area. Last April 21-25, the Annual KDC Meeting was held at St. Paul University Philippines, Tuguegarao City. The World Bank invited the President Dr. Juanito M. Acanto, Director for Libraries Prof. Victory Dionio and Development Planning office Director Engr. Dimpna Castigador to join the participantsfrom other KDCs.

The meeting included discussions/workshops with World Bank representatives, existing KDC presidents and officers, Skype session with a World Bank-Washington DC expert, and visit to Brgy. Tagga, the 2003 Konrad Adenauer Medal of Excellence (KAME) awardee barangay for best-managed barangay in the Philippines. (Please see pictures)
The World Bank has already sent CPU several equipments including a TV, LCD projector, two computers, printer and other related devices. The initial delivery of books on
various development topics has also been received at the Henry Luce Library. For the physical renovation and center furnishings, the World Bank has sent P500,000.00 to
CPU.

CPU will locate the KDC at the Ground Floor of the Henry Luce Library. Targeted to be launched to the public in June 2008, it will be the 11th KDC in the Philippines and the
only one in Western Visayas. (Dimpna Castigador)


http://www.cpu.edu.ph/archives.php?type=1&id=1213078062

Just let him be if he wants to say that. It may be derogatory but really its not worth the time and effort if we are to be defensive. Might as well give them the benefit of the doubt because really, night life is not the basis of one's economic prowess.

And these people have nothing to do but to make crabs out of themselves.

At least the night life in the city has been moving out from once "convent-curfewed" Iloilo City. This sector is also enjoying its rebirth after several decades of dormancy.
Crushed the crabs! Crushed the crabs! he he he ... actually manamit ang kalampay. he he he

might as well give a little bit of backslap para makabugtaw. Frankly speaking, I used to have this curfew thing in the past. Ka-strikto gid sang gid sang una. Unlike now, gee, ang mga bata gab-i na magpululi. Kis-a sa balay pa sang iban matulog eh.


On my point of view, Iloilo City has tasted this kind of exuberant night life during the late 19th Century and most especially during the Commonwealth Era. Bars, restos, Casino Espanol, brothels, bodabil, theatres or anything that a night urbanite creature would want to entertain himself. So why bother that Iloilo City is backward? We have to be glad that she is making a come back one step at a time. :)
there's always a good room for improvement and development and I'm glad that Iloilo is making 2one" great step at a time. Maayo kay nakabugtaw na. Medyo nahimasmasan na diutay. :)





Not IRA dependent and most of its money comes from local income.
Town with most number of industrial establishments in the region (not boasting and to confirm call DTI).
Cheaper power (ILECO provided)
Between the city and the airport
A more gentle climate
Accessibility has gone up unlike before.
Small town but has some good projects by the LGU.
LGU has been supportive with the investors, despite RAIC not been successful but it has made its impact in how to treat investors.
Catch basin of urban core of Iloilo City.

However, there are some things that they need to improve such as:


Flood control (well I hope that when the flood control project is finished, it would help augment the perennial flooding).
Increase road infrastructure.
Reliable power.
Attract more investors.

more than anything else, this one caught my attention gid iya. How come Pavia is positioning itself as a no.1 municipality where in fact Oton has bigger income by far, more populous than Pavia, more ecomically expanding / higher growth rate than Pavia?

Last year, Pavia is no.10 in ranking. Is there any indication that Pavia beats other top 9 municipalities last year in terms of income and population growth?

Siguro bwas may news na regarding the city hall land swap versus megaworld.

ralph fiennes, di bala sa Baguio ka subong? I'm here at Baguio galagaw-lagaw. Ngita ko di' gwapa kay wala kuno gwapa sa Iloilo.
Grabi ka migs wla ka gid ka pabatyag nga lagaw ka da baguio ba. Nakalab-ot ka dira ka pangita gwapa?:lol:Puli ka Iloilo bala this weekend kay mapuli man ko sa Friday, upod ta mangita gwapa sa smallville sa Flow kay dira gid damo sosyal nga gwapa. tapos ma:cheers:ta.

I will still choose ilongga...and I already have one indi na pwede buslan pa sang iban. :)
I went to SM City a while ago and I'm now at Bus Terminal going back to Manila.

Found out that there is already Mang Inasal here in Baguio.
Syimpre Mang Inasal na ya Pre....bisan diin daw Jollibee man. Dire gani sa Recto may ara man dira ko ga panyapon. :)

BIG NEWS!

Heard it from a businesswoman/friend who works near the area.
The owner of the big piece of land (Jamora) has sold his estates, e.g. Marymart Mall and the surrounding lands to Henry Sy.

Can I see SM City Delgado rising? :)

Regarding the comment na wala gwapa sa Iloilo...

My reply: :lol: libat guro ay...

Syimpre Mang Inasal na ya Pre....bisan diin daw Jollibee man. Dire gani sa Recto may ara man dira ko ga panyapon. :)

Diin factory sang Mang Inasal man?

SM Prime to open two more malls in China, 14 more locally
CEBU — Mall operator SM Prime Holdings, Inc. plans to open one or two more malls in China even as it continues to expand its mall network in the Philippines over the next five years.

Expansion in China would be initially slow as the company tries to build its brand, strengthen its organization and gather financial strength, SM Prime President Hans T. Sy said.

"Our China direction mirrors our growth story," Mr. Sy said on the sidelines of a project launch.


He noted that when the company went public in 1995 it had only four malls. The company now has 31, but the last 17 malls were built in the last five years, he pointed out.

Last week, the mall operator launched its SM City Cebu Northwing, the annex building that provides an additional leasable area of 17,677 square meters. The SM mall in Cebu, which has a total leasable area of about 130,000 square meters, is the fourth largest in the country.

China, however, is the next logical site for expansion when SM Prime completes its targeted 45 malls in the Philippines, Mr. Sy said.

The company’s 31 SM malls nationwide have a gross floor area of nearly three million square meters. Its biggest is the Mall of Asia in Pasay City and the newest is SM Marikina, which was opened last month.

"We’re looking at 45 [malls] here... What comes next? That’s where China comes in. But we need to build up our brand there first. Here, everybody knows SM. But not many know about SM in China," Mr. Sy said.

SM recently acquired three malls in China and is building a fourth mall in Chongqing, the commercial capital of southwest China. The existing malls are in Xiamen, Jinjiang and Chengdu.

The Chongqing mall will be completed in two years. In the meantime, Mr. Sy said, they are keeping their radars for other opportunities in China.

SM Prime is eyeing growth of 5% to 10% and is proceeding with its expansion plans this year despite the financial crisis in the US and Europe.

To fuel growth, SM Prime is banking on Filipinos working abroad and their relatives, as well as on shoppers who may have to stay in the country instead of going to Hong Kong and other shopping destinations overseas.

"I was in Hong Kong and I assured and reassured our investors that we are very much on track and we are still continuing with our expansion program. We’re not affected by the crisis," Mr. Sy said.

SM Prime is scheduled to open malls in Pangasinan and Bulacan and expand SM Megamall and SM Fairview later this year.

Mr. Sy said they have kept communication lines with the Cebu City government open for a planned mall at the South Road Properties, a 300-hectare greenfield development in the southern part of the city. SM Prime is also looking for properties in the northern part of Cebu.

There are four SM malls in the Visayas — one in Cebu, one in Bacolod City and two in Iloilo City. The plan is to build three or four more, Mr. Sy said.
Meanwhile, SM Investments Corp., the holding company of the Sy family’s SM Group, does not plan to list unit SM Land, Inc. on the stock exchange.

"I don’t think that is the plan. We’re just consolidating all property assets in SM Land," said Mr. Sy, who is also the first executive vice-president of SM Investments Corp.

SM Group consolidated its property assets under Shoemart, Inc. last year. Shoemart has been renamed SM Land as the company tries to be more transparent and unlock the value of its assets.

Mr. Sy said SM Land is on the lookout for properties to develop outside Luzon. SM Land projects are all in Luzon, including Hamilo Coast, a 5,700-hectare network of coastal resort communities in Nasugbu, Batangas. — Marites S. Villamor

tani ma dugangan pa gid ta isa di...:lol: 3 Sm Supermarkets and 1 Savemore Supermarket gali diri sa Iloilo, tani ang Sm City himuon nila Hypermarket pra daw complete...:)

2 in Iloilo? So that includes SM Delgado. Go go Iloilo. This must be the expansion of their land occupying Marymart.

Wow! Booming Iloilo! Na-miss ko man ni ba. Ano pa guid bi ang area dira kung tapos na ang Amigo sang ila renovation...haay kanami. Tapos basi ma expand pa ang Robinson's kay nag kadto gina, puno naman sang tao.

One examply we have is berns. Now berns is an ilonggo, and good looking, but you cannot find his good looking persona in iloilo right now because he is in the ateneo the manila to pursue masteral studies and he isn't even rich, he's middle class, but because his parents are savers, he could afford an elite education.


Umm...excuse me? Good looking ko? Ummm....ahhh....uhhmmm....speechless ako!!!! :nuts::nuts: :lol: :D Weee! Hearthrob na gali ko! :lol: :lol:


more than anything else, this one caught my attention gid iya. How come Pavia is positioning itself as a no.1 municipality where in fact Oton has bigger income by far, more populous than Pavia, more ecomically expanding / higher growth rate than Pavia?

Last year, Pavia is no.10 in ranking. Is there any indication that Pavia beats other top 9 municipalities last year in terms of income and population growth?
Hmmm....I could only explain by the local income in ratio of the population and consumer spending. I don't know the technical economics of it but the real estate boom and being the industrial center of Panay has made it one of the best in economic expansion.

Diin factory sang Mang Inasal man?

Ang kabalo ko ang warehouse nila ara sa Diversion Road, higad St.Joseph School. :D

2 in Iloilo? So that includes SM Delgado. Go go Iloilo. This must be the expansion of their land occupying Marymart.

Wow! Booming Iloilo! Na-miss ko man ni ba. Ano pa guid bi ang area dira kung tapos na ang Amigo sang ila renovation...haay kanami. Tapos basi ma expand pa ang Robinson's kay nag kadto gina, puno naman sang tao.

As far as what one friend of mine from SM told me,

SM Prime is of SM City Iloilo (familia City malls, MOA, Megamall, etc)
SM Department Store is of SM Delgado (Makati, Cubao, etc)

Different companies under one brand, one owner. :D

2 in Iloilo? So that includes SM Delgado. Go go Iloilo. This must be the expansion of their land occupying Marymart.

Wow! Booming Iloilo! Na-miss ko man ni ba. Ano pa guid bi ang area dira kung tapos na ang Amigo sang ila renovation...haay kanami. Tapos basi ma expand pa ang Robinson's kay nag kadto gina, puno naman sang tao.
Wow good news for Iloilo

Umm...excuse me? Good looking ko? Ummm....ahhh....uhhmmm....speechless ako!!!! :nuts::nuts: :lol: :D Weee! Hearthrob na gali ko! :lol: :lol:


Hmmm....I could only explain by the local income in ratio of the population and consumer spending. I don't know the technical economics of it but the real estate boom and being the industrial center of Panay has made it one of the best in economic expansion.



Ang kabalo ko ang warehouse nila ara sa Diversion Road, higad St.Joseph School. :D



As far as what one friend of mine from SM told me,

SM Prime is of SM City Iloilo (familia City malls, MOA, Megamall, etc)
SM Department Store is of SM Delgado (Makati, Cubao, etc)

Different companies under one brand, one owner. :D

Kung lapit St. Jo, teh gamay lang siya gali noh. Tapos kaya ya man i-ship sa bilog nga Pinas.

Regarding SM, maybe Henry Sy has plans to merge SM Delgado and Marymart into Iloilo's 2nd megamall. :) GO!

But anyway, bad news....Asian Spirit would not fly to Iloilo anymore..........















..............but Zest Airways will. :D
No schedules yet but there is a big possibility that they would continue their flights for Iloilo. Asian Spirit was recently bought by the Zest-o magnate and renamed it Zest Air. :)

Just look at their website at www.zestair.com.ph. No schedule for it though, they may be still waiting for their Airbus A320s. :)

dp

^^ :lol:

Didn't fool me there...:P

Who owns Zest Airlines?

Sin-o na sya, space? Kilala ko? Haler man!!! hehehe! Pakabuot na ko budlay na mautdan 'ta manoy!

Enjoy lang ko 'ya kaun sang Mang Inasal sa SM City Baguio...wala ko sapak mga gwapa kay gutom ako....hehehe!

yup! i saw that mang inasal in sm baguio when i went there last may of this year.

I have a different experience from you rapuy. Here, people view me as bisaya though I am from Iloilo. I have nothing against cebuanos but i just am very comfortable in asserting my ilonggo identity and distancing it from the term bisaya. This is not because i am ashamed of what the term bisaya connotes, rather i just wanted to outline the differences and similarities between the two ethnicities so that manilenos will know who is who.

And i agree with you that the term bisaya is derogatory here because of the maids and houseboys.

One time, i was eating in a carinderia here and one of their servants made a mistake of gathering a customer's half finished meal who only happened to go to the counter to get ketchup. when he returned, he was surprised to find out that the dishses half eaten food were now being placed on top of each other, gathered by the servedora. He fumed and demanded to the owners to replace his meal since he was not finished, he just went to get ketchup. So the owners obliged. Then one of them took the servedora aside and scolded her to first ascertain if the customer has left. Then the other owner told co-owner to understand the servedora because she is a bisaya. Other customers were also murmuring "bisaya kasi kinuha nyo, ayan tuloy, sakit sa ulo" but when i heard her talk in tagalog she had a very heavy ilonggo accent. The customers and owners of the carinderia however viewed her as bisaya because for them, iloilo is in the visayas hence this ilongga is a bisaya hence baduy.

I didn't know if she was from negros or iloilo province but i am very certain she was ilongga. I didn't know what to do to be honest. I was in a room full of tagalogs and perhaps i was the only ilonggo customer, and i really felt degraded. These tagalogs really do feel they are superior to you just because they speak tagalog. I guess that's another motivation for us guys to help in the development and contribution of our hometown and province.

Another experience was that of my friend who when she applied for a job, the interviewer asked her if she knows what a TV is and what it does because after all, she was from the province. Not just any province, but a province in the visayas. Do you notice how tagalogs deal with provincianos? If its a provinciano from lets say, laguna, cavite or bulacan, they're looked down for being provinciano but their admittedly held in higher regard than provincianos based in the visayas who are in addition, looked at with contempt and silent degradation.

Even the bulakeños and caviteños look down at as because my mother was in a wedding where some of the guests were from those two provinces. At the reception, she heard (she was in another table) them say that they're surprised to find out there are also cars here in iloilo city.

How did it come to this? Is there a way to uplift our image?

ako ya.. eveytime people from manila ask me my province, i would say proudly that im from iloilo. im not a regionalist but damu guid ya nga mga taga manila mga "buknol", short for buki kag manol.. hahaha. :lol:

I think this is the reason why Stabucks has plans to put up 2 branches in iloilo and one branch in bacolod. The market research done by starbucks (this was told to me by my ilongga contact in the said company) revealed that the market cannot support more than one branch because the market's middle class is too thin, like paper, and cannot support the brand if it would open more than one branch. Concededly, the upper class there is far wealthier and far numerous than in iloilo, however, many of them are now in the states and only the mansions are now left there. In iloilo, the market research concluded that the market could support the brand because of the presence of numerous banks and schools, thus more students and profesionals who could patronize the brand.

The relation to nene robusta's comment is that, starbuck's market research found the market there to be spenders not savers. Where they get their money however to spend comes from debt. That's not my opinion, that's a coffeechain's conclusion. Anyway, since majority of the market there borrow heavily to spend and pretend, to the extent that they are already drowning in debt, starbucks has decided to put up one branch. In iloilo, the market is considered to be savers and not spenders to the extent that there is wealth, but this is not however flaunted and spent mindlessly. The good news is, the level of debt is low and therefore the middle class and upper class is standing on solid ground and can therefore support 2 branches of the brand.


Regarding Starbucks, is it really confirmed on how many shops would be constructed here and there?

Actually if some people from the other side lurk here, IMO this is the reality and at the same time the stereotyping of cultures. I wouldn't be shocked about the description of Ilonggo Panayana as buki and Negrense as tikalon. These have all their basis most especially in economic culture of one's city. The former is reserved because of its old world civilization is still attached to its culture while the latter would be more like a new civilization who are seeking good life away from the old world and searching for an identity of their own. Just think about Britain and American relationships here. But I think if we view it regional-wide, this what makes Western Visayas market a special place for investment and finances. We are savers, they are spenders and these are not passive. If we are to utilize them both, then that would be an advantage. This is how the money circulates in the region.

There are some things in ourselves that is "reality" and I hope we have to swallow our prides from time to time. Tani indi his-anay sa tagsa tagsa ang aton nga idevelop sa aton diri sa SSC, it would be very immature of anyone of us (all applied) to think like a crab.

Also they have a lot of things that they have to learn from us and us we have to learn from them. They talk and act. We save and conserve. I wouldn't wonder why the Ilonggo nation cannot be underestimated.

But when you go to Mindanao, there is no such thing as Panayanon and Negrense, only Ilonggo regardless of origin, because they are Ilonggo Cotabateño.

BPO is our strength – Treñas (http://www.panaynewsphilippines.com/main%20news%201.htm)

By DAVID ISRAEL SINAY

ILOILO City – A “sunrise industry,” business process outsourcing (BPO) is “our strength,” declared Mayor Jerry Treñas.

BPO involves the contracting of the operations and responsibilities of a specific business function to a third-party service provider. In this city, this is more evident in the mushrooming of call centers.

Treñas said BPO provides employment opportunities and investments. The Ayala group of companies, he revealed, plans to put up an information technology (IT) park in a two-hectare property along the Diversion Road here.

With the IT park, Treñas sees more BPO players entering Iloilo City.

This capital city has what it takes to become the Philippines’ next “cyber corridor,” said Rex Drilon, president of the Iloilo Economic Development Foundation Inc., citing vast opportunities in the field of communication and information technology (IT).

“This is a fantastic time to invest in Iloilo,” said Drilon during last month’s Information Technology Week.

He said the cities of Cebu, Bacolod, Davao and the National Capital Region are getting overcrowded with information and communication technology (ICT) investments.

There are already 12 call centers and business process outsourcing companies operating here.

In terms of human resources, the province and city of Iloilo is producing over 17,000 college graduates annually in seven universities, six colleges and 14 IT-related training providers, Drilon said.

The IT industry is one of the fast growing industries in the country. It directly employs 3,000 people in the city and province of Iloilo, bring in some P30 million a month in salaries alone.

Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) Regional Director Dominic Abad said the industry has caused some P100-million worth of income circulating in Iloilo every month if rentals and other payments are included.

This year, around seven call center companies have visited the office of Treñas, Gov. Niel Tupas, DTI and even learning institutions, signifying their interest to relocate in Iloilo.

“We have already seen the economic impact of the ICT. I do hope that we all appreciate this because it is very important that we have this in mind when we prepare and make Iloilo ready for these companies to come in,” Abad said.

He emphasized the need for readiness of human resources and support services for possible investors.

“Seriously, we should look at this because this is our future and we are building our future in IT. I do hope that we would see our individual roles in making ourselves and our place ready for these companies,” he stressed./PN

ABC chief to guvs: Mind your own business (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ilo/2008/10/14/news/abc.chief.to.guvs.mind.your.own.business.html)

By Lydia C. Pendon and Erwin Cabarles

THE president of the Liga ng mga Barangay Captains (ABC) reacted strongly against the position of five provincial governors of Western Visayas who asked the President to revoke the Environmental Clearance Certificate (ECC) given to a coal-fired power plant in Iloilo City.

Barangay captain Irene Ong, ex-oficio member of the City Council, told the governors to "mind their own business and concentrate their time and energy in their respective provinces by not interfering in the activities of the city which is a separate local government unit from the provinces."


Ong said all the Liga city districts have already issued their positive position in having a coal-fired power plant at Barangay Ingore, La Paz district to help lift up the socio-economic development of Iloilo City by having sufficient and sustainable power supply.

Iloilo City has no alternative sources of energy and the coal-fired power plant using the modern clean-coal technology can help a lot in the growth and development of the city, the barangay chiefs said.

Ong specifically pointed to Antique Governor Salvacion Z. Perez "not to be a hypocrite but should be development-oriented." She said the people of Iloilo are not dumb and uneducated not to know about and understand the effects and benefits of the coal-fired power plant.

Perez led the governors, namely Governor Carlito Marquez of Aklan, Victor Tanco of Capiz, Isidro Zayco of Negros Occidental and Felipe Hilan Nava of Guimaras in asking the President to revoke the ECC issued last September 1, 2008 to Global Business Power Holdings to put up a 180 MW power plant in the city designed to augment the very limited power supply in the city and province of Iloilo.

Governor Niel Tupas of Iloilo did not sign the governors' position paper.

The governors said: "The ECC undermines the dangers and impacts of the coal fired power plant to human health and the environment. They said the selection of the plant site within a thickly populated area in the city puts at risk the health and lives not only of city residents but also of thousands of provincial constituents who are in the city as students or workers."

Similarly, La Paz Liga district president Carlos Guarin said the governors should give a chance to the coal-fired power plant currently being constructed within the compound of the Panay Power Corp.

The barangay chief also said the governors should and must respect the opinion of city residents, especially city officials and business leaders who wanted a sustainable power supply here.

The power plant proponent has met all the necessary requirements in establishing a power plant here.

Iloilo City Mayor Jerry Treñas also expressed disappointment on the governors' collective move against the coal-fired power plant.

"I am disappointed with them. They didn't even talk or discuss to me their petition against the coal-fired power plant filed to the office of the President," he said.

He added that the five governors did not understand the help that the coal power plant will give to the city, its residents and even to the people from the nearby provinces.

"If we abandon the coal power plant project, the charges for electricity consumption will remain high and even increase. If we are not able to match the need for more energy in the city, we might lose investors. We want our city to develop further and the public to get rid of the burden of high electric bills," Treñas said.

He said he does not consider the "environmental impacts" of the project as cited by Governor Perez in an interview as the real deal of opposing.

‘Slashed typhoon fund should
prioritize roads, dams, schools’ (http://www.panaynewsphilippines.com/main%20news%203.htm)

ILOILO – The rehabilitation of roads, dams and school buildings should remain the priority of the slashed fund for the typhoon-hit provinces of Western Visayas, said Gov. Niel Tupas Sr.

Typhoon “Frank” devastated parts of the region on June 21 and 22.

The original P15-billion rehabilitation budget has been reduced to P8.6 billion.

“We are an agriculture county, we need to maintain and restore our dams,” the governor contended.

He said the restoration of the irrigation canals and dams is necessary for improved rice production.

The other day, the governor’s son, Cong. Junjun Tupas of the 5th District, said Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez Sr. has no business leading a commission that will be distributing the multi-billion peso Panay Rehabilitation Fund (PRF).

“Illegal kag unconstitutional inâ,” said Cong. Tupas of the plan to make Gonzalez the Panay fund commission chief.

Under the law, according to the solon, Cabinet members like Gonzalez are not allowed to hold other government positions unless these are related or extensions of their post.

“Ano man ‘ya ang labot abi sang Panay Rehabilitation Fund sa hustisya (What’s the business of the Justice department in the Panay Rehabilitation Fund)?” asked Tupas.

Typhoon “Frank” hit Panay in June 21, killing 125 persons, according to the Office of Civil Defense (OCD).

The island lost billions of pesos in infrastructure and agriculture, it reported.

Tupas warned that the fund might be misused.

“Gamiton lang inâ ni Justice Secretary Gonzalez sa pamulitika niya kag sang iya grupo, (Gonzalez might use it to further his political plans and those of this group),” Tupas warned.

The task of overseeing the Panay Rehabilitation Fund should be given to a non-politician, he stressed./PN

‘POWER STRUGGLE’
PECO, PPC face raps for ‘abuse of market power’ (http://www.panaynewsphilippines.com/headline.htm)

ILOILO City – An umbrella organization of consumers is filing a complaint against the Panay Electric Co. (PECO) and Panay Power Corp. (PPC) for gross incompetence, inefficiency and abuse of market power.

The Responsible Ilonggos for Sustainable Energy (RISE) said residents here are suffering because of the high electricity rates, and are being unjustly made to shoulder PECO’s systems loss.

RISE will file the complaint at the Energy Regulatory Commission (ERC). Under the Electric Power Industry Reform Act (EPIRA) of 2001, it said power distribution utilities are obliged to supply electricity at “the least cost” to its captive market but in this city, PECO is charging almost P14 per kilowatt hour (kWh).

Other power distribution companies in Western Visayas are charging their consumers from P6 to P7 per kWh only, stressed RISE.

“This (high electricity rate) hampers the growth and development of Iloilo City,” said Melvin Purzuelo of Green Forum – Western Visayas and one of the initiators of the complaint.

RISE is asking ERC for the following:
• order PECO to make PPC pay for the shortfall in its delivery obligations in the amount equal to the cost, plus the transmission cost of energy bought from the National Power Corp. (NPC);
• order PECO to stop the payment of energy and capacity fees to PPC for electricity bought from NPC; and
• reimburse consumers the PPC’s energy and capacity fees PECO charged for electricity bought from NPC since June 2007.

If the ERC grants these, RISE said this will save PECO consumers more than P60 million each month.

COMPLAINT DETAILS
According to RISE, the following will be made known to the ERC vis-à-vis PECO and PPC’s business conduct:

1. The generation rate of P9.2377 per kWh for September 2008 charged by PECO violates Republic Act No. 9136 or the (EPIRA). Section 23 o the Act states: “...Any distribution utility shall have the obligation to supply electricity in the least cost manner to its captive market…”

2. The systems loss of P1.1080/kWh charged by PECO on consumers in September 2008 was not the least cost but the highest in the country and could be one of the highest all over the world.

3. PECO and PPC had cross-ownership when they signed a Power Purchase Agreement (PPA) on January 24, 1997 that provided for very high “take and pay” arrangements.

4. The Minimum Guaranteed Electrical Quantity (MGEQ) stipulated in the PPA is very high compared to actual demand. The ERC has in fact approved, in its March 10, 2006 decision, the lowering of the MGEQ between PECO and PPC from 511,560,000 kWh/year to 373,032,024 kWh/year.

5. The “Plant” referred to in the PPA provision are all diesel power plants that are more appropriate for peaking loads rather than base load plants. Using these diesel power plants for base, mid-range and peak load demands, and the very high MGEQ with “take and pay arrangement” resulted to a very inefficient energy mix, and expensive generation cost of electricity.

6. PECO unilaterally and without consultation with its affected consumers, disconnected from the Cebu-Negros-Panay Grid, thus isolating its franchise area and depriving consumers of affordable base load supply, ancillary, reserve and other services that could provide consumers with reliable and competitively priced electricity

7. While the then Energy Regulatory Board (ERB) approved the PPA between PECO and PPC, it was with the condition that PPC should provide electricity at substantially lower rates than the prevailing grid prices of the NPC, but PPC is now charging more than triple the NPC effective rate for the Visayas at P2.9934 per kWh.

8. PPC’s inappropriate use of the diesel power plants for base load demand caused the diesel engines to breakdown, causing unscheduled and prolonged outages in the middle part of the year 2005 and in April this year 2008, thus depriving PECO consumers of the essential electrical services and hampering the economic and social activities of Iloilo City.

9. The price of diesel fuel has been going up, making the generation cost of diesel power plants very prohibitive and uncompetitive while there is available cheaper indigenous and renewable energy in the Cebu-Negros-Panay (CNP) Grid coming from geothermal and biomass energy sources.

10. The ERC acknowledged that the isolation of PECO from the island grid continually exposes its consumers to electric crisis situations. Hence, the ERC decision dated December 14, 2005 gave PECO provisional authority to raise its rates.

11. The Visayas System Supply and Demand Condition prepared by NPC Corporate Staff Specialist A, Mosses M. Red on April 23, 2008 and used by the Department of Energy (DOE) during a presentation with stakeholders in Iloilo City on May 8, 2008 showed that the Rated Capacity of PPC is only 61.4 MW. With that capacity and using good engineering practice pegging the capacity factor of diesel power plants at 30 percent, PPC is capable of providing only 159,148,800 kWh per year or 13,262,400 kWh per month. This condition results to huge shortfall and recurring brown-outs in Iloilo City.

12. The January 24, 1997 Power Purchase Agreement between PECO and PPC provides: “The sum of the Monthly Delivery Obligations in any Contract Year shall equal the Minimum Guaranteed Electrical Quantity...In the event the SELLER fails to deliver the Monthly Delivery Obligation in any calendar month due solely to SELLER’s fault or negligence and in breach of SELLER’s obligations hereunder (“Shortfall”), SELLER shall pay PECO an amount equal to the difference in cost of energy purchased from NPC...”

13. To cover for the shortfall of PPC’s delivery obligations, PECO has been purchasing 15 megawatts (15 MW) baseload capacity from NPC since June 2007 equivalent to about 10 million kWh per month at NPC’s effective rates for the Visayas, which is very much cheaper than that of PPC rates.

14. PECO did not directly reconnect with the CNP Grid as ordered by the ERC but utilized the existing transmission lines of PPC with NPC where PPC charges energy and capacity fees of about P3/kWh of electricity bought by PECO from NPC supposedly because this electrical quantity is still within their ‘take or pay’ agreement.

15. Instead of compelling PPC to abide by its obligations to pay for the shortfall in its delivery obligations, PECO rather collects from consumers multiple charges in terms of payment for NPC’s generation cost, transmission costs and the PPC’s energy and capacity fees./PN

City college, a thug of war: lawyer (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ilo/2008/10/14/news/city.college.a.thug.of.war.lawyer.html)

THE passage of the proposed Iloilo City Public College is a thug of war between the groups of Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez - the protagonists - and that of Mayor Jerry Treñas - the antagonists, in the City Council.

Lawyer Leopoldo Causing, an active supporter of the pushed public college, said the battle though is only between the supporters and not between Treñas and Gonzalez, who were political allies for several years.


Causing said the councilors identified with Gonzalez, whose son-representative is Raul Gonzalez Jr., promised to set aside P20 million fund for the project should a law is passed pertaining to the creation of the project, are very active in supporting the proposed school.

However those who were identified with Treñas, who earlier expressed the lack of funds and the unpreparedness of the City Government to build a college of its own, remains "cool" and very relaxed on discussions of the Iloilo City Public College Ordinance.

An ordinance pertaining to the creation of a public college needs the approval of the City Council before the project gets started.

Causing identified nine "pro-Gonzalez councilors" who are supporting Councilor Jeffrey Ganzon's proposed college. The rest of the members in the council are "for Treñas."

While the pro-city college councilors are working double time on the approval of the project, Causing alleged that anti-city college are "delaying" it by referring the ordinance to various committees for "further study.

Causing claimed further that the proposal is now placed under the scrutiny of the committees led by "anti-city college and pro-Treñas councilors" such as Eduardo Peñaredondo of the Committee on Legal Matters, Jose Espinosa III on Appropriations Committee and Julienne Baronda on Education.

Pro-city college and pro-Gonzalez councilors like Eldrid Antiquiera, Irene Ong, Lyndon Acap, and Ganzon, among others, are, however, rallying behind the said proposed ordinance.

Mayor Jerry Treñas on Monday, on the other hand, said he will meet with City Councilors Jeffrey Ganzon and Julienne Baronda -- the councilors who were locked in battle in the recent City Council session on the city college issue.

Ganzon was reportedly fuming after his proposed city college ordinance did not get proper referral during the session, Baronda said.

She added that the councilor threatened to kick her.

The councilors argued when the city college ordinance was tackled on the floor.

Councilor Ganzon, the proponent, was reportedly enraged when his proposal was referred back to Baronda's Committee-Education, when it was previously referred to the same committee for study report and recommendations.

Ganzon was made to think Baronda does not pay enough attention to his proposal. (JDB/EC)

^^ Wow, Iloilo's own MERALCO. :D

I will still choose ilongga...and I already have one indi na pwede buslan pa sang iban. :)
I went to SM City a while ago and I'm now at Bus Terminal going back to Manila.

Found out that there is already Mang Inasal here in Baguio.

Basta ako ya ilongga gid ya piliun ko, anu pa, basta ilongga ga lupok gid naya, gwapa na coke bottle pa, hot hot hot pa…:)



BIG NEWS!

Heard it from a businesswoman/friend who works near the area.
The owner of the big piece of land (Jamora) has sold his estates, e.g. Marymart Mall and the surrounding lands to Henry Sy.

Can I see SM City Delgado rising? :)

Regarding the comment na wala gwapa sa Iloilo...

My reply: :lol: libat guro ay...

Ang bilog gid da or basi ang SM Delgado lang ky diba 20 years na ang ila rent da?:)



Kung lapit St. Jo, teh gamay lang siya gali noh. Tapos kaya ya man i-ship sa bilog nga Pinas.

Regarding SM, maybe Henry Sy has plans to merge SM Delgado and Marymart into Iloilo's 2nd megamall. :) GO!

Basi para lang na sa Iloilo ang warehouse ky diba sa Manila lapit sa airport my warehouse man da ang Mang Inasal…:)

BPO is our strength – Treñas (http://www.panaynewsphilippines.com/main%20news%201.htm)

By DAVID ISRAEL SINAY

ILOILO City – A “sunrise industry,” business process outsourcing (BPO) is “our strength,” declared Mayor Jerry Treñas.

BPO involves the contracting of the operations and responsibilities of a specific business function to a third-party service provider. In this city, this is more evident in the mushrooming of call centers.

Treñas said BPO provides employment opportunities and investments. The Ayala group of companies, he revealed, plans to put up an information technology (IT) park in a two-hectare property along the Diversion Road here.

With the IT park, Treñas sees more BPO players entering Iloilo City.

This capital city has what it takes to become the Philippines’ next “cyber corridor,” said Rex Drilon, president of the Iloilo Economic Development Foundation Inc., citing vast opportunities in the field of communication and information technology (IT).

daw gina excited na gid koni sang iya ka Ayala, balantayan gid na da ang lugar sa my Manduriao...

guys, visit The Guardian website. Ara input naton tanan sa re: coal plants... he he he

Ilonggos fume against Inday Sally (http://thedailyguardian.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9974&Itemid=53)

yehey! We're being heard gid iya! Tuloy ang kampanya! :banana::banana::banana::banana:

^^^^ Believe me, Gov Perez of Antique is two-faced:

ANTIQUE GUV FIRST
TO EMBRACE COAL
By Francis Allan L. Angelo

WAS Antique Governor Salvacion Perez suffering from amnesia when she wrote and signed a petition letter urging President Gloria Arroyo to revoke the environmental compliance certificate issued to the coal-fired power plant proposed by Global Business Power Corp. in Iloilo City?

Defending the petition letter, Perez said over Aksyon Radyo-Iloilo that she has been against the establishment of coal-fired power plant “a long time ago.”

“It is not correct to say that we are opposing this project only now. We have been against this for a long time now. We need to develop renewable sources of energy because no matter what we say, coal is coal,” Perez said.
Perez said they could come up with a compromise with Iloilo City Mayor Jerry Treñas not to allow the coal power plant to be established in the city but in a place far from thickly populated areas.

The lady-governor said she and the four other governors in Region 6 are concerned with the effects of the plant on their constituents who are working and studying in Iloilo City.

Perez also cautioned Treñas not to be “onion-skinned and arrogant” over the issue lest he earns the ire of the five governors.

She also denied that they are after political mileage and popularity in coming up with the anti-coal letter.

The four other governors who signed the petition letter were Felipe Nava of Guimaras, Carlito Marquez of Aklan, Victor Tanco Sr. of Capiz, Isidro Zayco of Negros Occidental.

KEPCO PROJECT

Apparently, Perez forgot that she signed a document endorsing a coal-fired power plant in her home province.

Sometime in 2003, Korean Electric Power Corp. (Kepco) proposed to build a 100-megawatt coal-fired power plant in Tibiao, Antique.

Five years ago, President Gloria Arroyo announced that Perez, in behalf of the Antique provincial government, signed a memorandum of understanding with Kepco Philippines Corp.

President Arroyo made the announcement in her speech before a meeting with rice farmers, irrigators associations, and the trade and agri-business sector in Panay April 1, 2003 at the Kalantiaw Hall of Sarabia Manor Hotel and Convention Center in Iloilo City.

“So I am very pleased to let you know that this morning a memorandum of understanding was signed into... by and between the provincial government of Antique led by Sally Perez and Kepco Philippines, our representatives from Korea, Mr. Lee Gilbo, President and Chief Executive Officer of Kepco Philippines Corporation, with the presence of Korean Ambassador Son Sang Ha, to construct and set up a 100-megawatt circulating, fluidized bed combustion power plant using the Semirara coal of Caluya in Antique.

The President’s speech can be downloaded from this link: (http://www.op.gov.ph/speeches.asp?iid=314&iyear=2003&imonth=4)

But the Kepco project did not push through as the proposed location did not pass the soil stability test even as environmentalists opposed the project.

Kepco later transferred to Ajuy then to Banate, Iloilo.

Iloilo provincial administrator Manuel Mejorada told this paper that Governor Perez “even lobbied for the Iloilo provincial government to reject coal so that Kepco will be forced to invest in Antique.”

But opposition from environmentalists forced the Korean firm to move to Cebu where it finally established two 50-MW coal-fired power plants in Naga, Cebu.

source: The Guardian ILOILO (http://thedailyguardian.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9954&Itemid=31)

^^^^ very, very bad motive!:ohno::ohno::ohno:

WV joins RP world-record
bid in anti-poverty drive

ILOILO City – Western Visayas is joining the country’s bid to the Guinness Book of World Records to have the most number of people who stand up against poverty.

Presidential Assistant for Western Visayas Raul Banias said communications have been sent out to various local government units (LGUs) in the region, encouraging their constituents to enroll and commit their support to the program.

“Every year, we are counting the people who stand up against poverty. The people have themselves enrolled that they are one with the initiative,” Banias said.

The program, with the theme ‘Stand Up Against Poverty,’ is being facilitated by the National Anti-Poverty Commission (NAPC).

This month, the country is celebrating “programs and efforts to overcome poverty,” to be highlighted on October 17.

“We call on everyone to stand up against poverty because we are now vying for the Guinness Book of World Records in the number of people who will get involved in this massive fight,” Banias said during the People’s Day celebration in the municipality of Cabatuan recently.

He lauded the officials of the municipality under Mayor Ramon Yee for facilitating the activity as he stressed that the effort was one important strategy to address poverty.

“This initiative gives voice to our people in the rural areas, giving them the chance to air their concerns and influence local policy. Empowerment and participation is a very strong component if you want to address poverty,” he said. (PNA)

WV backs RP’s Guinness bid on anti-poverty

WESTERN Visayas is joining the country’s bid to the Guinness Book of World Records to have the most number of people who stand up against poverty.

Presidential Assistant for Western Visayas Raul Banias said communications were already sent out to various local government units (LGUs) in the region to encourage their constituents to enroll and commit their support to the program.

“Every year we are counting people who stand up against poverty. The people have themselves enrolled that they are one with the initiative,” Banias said.
The program with the theme ‘Stand Up Against Poverty’ is being facilitated by the National Anti Poverty Commission (NAPC), Banias added.

Banias said this month the country is celebrating “programs and efforts to overcome poverty” that will be highlighted on Oct 17.

“We call on everyone to stand up against poverty because we are now vying for the Guinness Book of World Records if how many people will get involved in this massive fight against poverty,” Banias said during the People’s Day celebration at the Municipality of Cabatuan on Friday.

He lauded the officials of the municipality under Mayor Ramon Yee for facilitating the activity as he stressed that the effort was one important strategy to address poverty.

“This initiative gives voice to our people in the rural areas; giving them the chance to air their concerns and influence local policy. Empowerment and participation is a very strong component if you want to address poverty,” he said. (PNA)

source: The Daily Guardian ILOILO (http://thedailyguardian.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9964&Itemid=2)




Region 6 fares well in ‘leisure and wellness fair’ in Russia

ILOILO City – The Department of Tourism (DOT) here took pride in the good showing of Western Visayas delegates to the Leisure and Wellness Fair in Russia recently.

Regional Director Edwin Trompeta said the experience was “very educational, productive and enlightening for the private sector property owners or representatives.”

Along with Trompeta, the region was represented by five premier resorts and one wellness spa in Boracay Island to the annual international travel fair that was also a selling mission for tourism destinations.

Trompeta said about 130 countries worldwide participated in the event.

“The more than 30 private sector property owners (from the Philippines) who went there practically met not only their quota (for sales) but even beyond it,” Trompeta enthused.

Delegates traveled to Moscow, Kosovo and Vladivostok to showcase their different destinations to the Russian market, whom Trompeta described as “rich.”

He said Russia is a very good market, although they are seasonal tourists, having only vacations during winter.

“The Russians have money to spend. Their lifestyle showed they’re ready for the (tourism) market,” he said.

Trompeta noted that through the years, Russian tourists have been increasing and registering as one of the highest arrivals in the country.

Tourism Assistant Regional Director Helen Camarista-Catalbas said participating in international travel fairs such as the one in Russia means a lot to the tourism industry in the region since Western Visayas is a resort destination.

“Wellness and spa centers are also flourishing here, as well as our natural attractions,” Catalbas added.

She said the Russian market is fairly new to the region, but through the Leisure and Wellness Fair, it is hoped they come and visit the destinations in Western Visayas. (PNA)

source: Panay News (http://panaynewsphilippines.com/main%20news%206.htm)

^^^^ Go ILOILO! Go Boracay! Go Western Visayas! :banana::banana::banana::banana:

guys, visit The Guardian website. Ara input naton tanan sa re: coal plants... he he he

Ilonggos fume against Inday Sally (http://thedailyguardian.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9974&Itemid=53)

yehey! We're being heard gid iya! Tuloy ang kampanya! :banana::banana::banana::banana:

kita ko mig... post na di... wee...:)

^^^^ we need to utilise media to show our support and air our grievances.

Hala Bira! :banana::banana::banana::banana:

guys, visit The Guardian website. Ara input naton tanan sa re: coal plants... he he he

Ilonggos fume against Inday Sally (http://thedailyguardian.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9974&Itemid=53)

yehey! We're being heard gid iya! Tuloy ang kampanya! :banana::banana::banana::banana:


Andam lang si Inday Tara sa akon!!!! Ngaa ara didto sa column man?! :nuts::nuts::lol::lol::lol:

See, told you...we may be small but we have found a way to reach those people who are into policy making and media. ;)

Padayon lang ta! :okay:

Originally Posted by steadyasweroll: kita ko mig... post na di... wee...

Originally Posted by spacewagon1 guys, visit The Guardian website. Ara input naton tanan sa re: coal plants... he he he

Andam lang si Inday Tara sa akon!!!! Ngaa ara didto sa column man?!
amo ni sya guro nahambal ni space nga basahon..hu:lol: e post ko nalang...

Ilonggos fume against Inday Sally

INTERNET forums and blogs are bristling with negative comments against Antique Salvacion Perez for her call to revoke the ECC of the proposed coal-fired power plant in Iloilo City.

Here are some of the unedited comments lifted from www.skycityscraper.com forum and faaviews.wordpress.com:

* Totally AGREE. Why would other provinces of the region dictate us of what we need to do and what we need to improve? This is a classic form of Filipinos' crab mentality. To say the least, the Province of Antique (governor), with the main industry of coal has been the one leading the quest.
As for me, this is unacceptable for Iloilo and Ilonggos to be dictated by these so called crabs. If ever we stop the construction, then it will be us "ILONGGOS" who will decide the fate of the plant.

For Iloilo City officials to call Perez a hypocrite is just apt and well-deserved. We would loved to support Antique and its development, and so the rest of the region BUT with this kind of attitude they are showing us Ilonggos, then it's another story to make in the days to come. We never bothered them what projects they want for their provinces BUT why would they want to get involve in the city's affair? Are they nuts? What are they hoping to get from this one? A minute support from anti-coal lobbyists?

Also, I wonder why Nava of Guimaras signed the petition as well. Trenas is right when he says, Nava is part of MIGEDC, which highly support and has been consulted with the coal plant. Why there's a sudden change of windblow? Maybe this could be a lesson for Iloilo City, MIG and Iloilo Province as a whole. This is something that Trenas needs to assess and be mindful of. I hailed Tupas for its stand and knows his jurisdiction.

Again, a great lesson for us ILONGGOS. (By spacewagon1, posted in www.skycityscraper.com forum, October 11, 2008, 8:17pm)

* Ang mahambal ko lang. Ang kay Jerry kay Jerry. Kaluta lang inyo katol ah. I'm disapppointed with Nava... thats why MIDC was replaced with MIGEDC to include and improve his province which used to be a part of Iloilo.... what a shame! But still I have nothing against Guimaras... Just with the governor's actions. hay! Kalampay! (Ilonggo Supremacy, posted in www.skycityscraper.com forum)

* A great lesson indeed. It’s not bad to source out renewable energy sources as well but out of courtesy, why don't they STFU?! Mind their own businesses because its not just for Iloilo City that would bring progress because of this.

I know their concern with the environment's cause but something has got to give in the name of progress, something has to be compromised. Geothermal energy in Negros has also to "damage" several portions of forest in order to create stable energy. Waay man ta nanghilabot sa ila nga desisyon kay kabalo man ta nga makabenepisyo man kita sa Panay sa enerhiya halin sa Negros kag sa Leyte!

I laud Cebu's leaders for their stand for progress. They have several coal power plants (and even have its own indigenous source) but I didn't heard any complain (or if there is, its minimal and doesn't make noise) not even the clergy which is lead by Jaime Cardinal Vidal...Cardinal na, indi lang arsobispo! I laud Iloilo City and Province's stand about this, good thing they are replicating the stand which Cebu did before. Sang pagpatukod ang mga coal power plants, nanghilabot ayhan ang mga gobernadores sa Katungaang Kabisay-an?

Of course not to damage the environment also, pero ang daw ginapagwa sang mga gobernadores daw kita mga Ilonggo mango sa aton nga ginhimu kag desisyon. Gintuonan ni sing maayo kag indi lang ni basta basta.

But again, something has got to give. Europe passed being dirty during the Industrial Revolution and now look at them! Look at their civilization!

And as for Al Gore, he did supported "clean-coal technology."

Hay, Pilipinas....land of the hypocrites and crabs! (Posted by habagatcentral1 in www.skycityscraper.com forum)

* Those governors who signed that petition are all hypocrites and a bunch of losers.. why on earth are these so-called "instant" environmentalist interfere with iloilo's decisions? are they really that concerned with the environment or or are these people just sour losers bent on hindering iloilo's progress? if this governor from antique is really concerned with the environment, why is semirara coal mining still in operation? maybe she should clean her own backyard first before poking in other LGU's business? these bunch of losers are anti-progress. instead of inter-provincial cooperation for the common good of all, they resorted to this "crab mentality" behaviour in the guise of righteousness. these people really underestimated us ilonggos. maybe they think we are idiots or morons and that we need their "divine guidance" for our own good.. gracious me! these people cant even uplift the lives of their constituents but still they try to lecture us on how to do things that dont affect them anyway. they failed to see that all people of panay will benefit in iloilo's progress and also the people of negros.. to the officials of iloilo and iloilo city, im proud that you stood firm on your decisions. after all, we have nothing to lose.. even the most advanced nations used coal to propel their society to the industrial age? so why cant we? unless these stupid, bunch of losers wanted to bring us development by using carabaos and stones for the rest of our lives. (Posted by true blue Ilonggo in www.skycityscraper.com)

* All I can comments with respect to the governors who opposed the coal power plant is mind your own business. Iloilo doesn’t interfered with what you are planning to do with your province, now why the sudden interest in our province? You governors are just insecure that you will be left behind too far and eating the dust when Iloilo go full speed ahead. Its CRAB MENTALITY. We Filipinos were doing it again. Kaya mabagal tayo umasenso. (Originally posted by Reynaldo Ledesma, in faaviews.wordpress.com, October 12, 2008 at 11:19 pm) Guardian

^^ Juice Mio Marimar! Mapanago na gid ko....yikes! :nuts: :runaway: :lol:
First we have NTB, then TotoPurz, then the media...who's next? Mayor Treñas and Sally in the forums? :lol: :lol:

E post kolang ang nag kalabilin ko na mga pics sng last week:lol:
kag kon makapuli ko di liwat sa city next week Tuesday off..basi makakuha ko bag o na pics sa city:lol: kay Roxas City bag o kag temporary ko na assignment, Hopefully by December back to normal naman liwat sched ko diri sa City:banana:

General Luna St.
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^^nice pics....:)

gud morning...can anybody help me... pano ko ma-access ang mga previous thread... for example ang thread 1.... since previously lng ako nag member... indi ko makita...:ohno:

Students of SPU went to SM City Cebu last week...saw busload of students

gud morning...can anybody help me... pano ko ma-access ang mga previous thread... for example ang thread 1.... since previously lng ako nag member... indi ko makita...:ohno:

liwat liwat lang...daw may problema ang system ka SSC

Ay teh....sakam guid sang mga Gobernador nga nagapasilabot! Sigeha nyo pah!!!:bash:

amo ni sya guro nahambal ni space nga basahon..hu:lol: e post ko nalang...

Ilonggos fume against Inday Sally

INTERNET forums and blogs are bristling with negative comments against Antique Salvacion Perez for her call to revoke the ECC of the proposed coal-fired power plant in Iloilo City.

Here are some of the unedited comments lifted from www.skycityscraper.com forum and faaviews.wordpress.com:

* Totally AGREE. Why would other provinces of the region dictate us of what we need to do and what we need to improve? This is a classic form of Filipinos' crab mentality. To say the least, the Province of Antique (governor), with the main industry of coal has been the one leading the quest.
As for me, this is unacceptable for Iloilo and Ilonggos to be dictated by these so called crabs. If ever we stop the construction, then it will be us "ILONGGOS" who will decide the fate of the plant.

For Iloilo City officials to call Perez a hypocrite is just apt and well-deserved. We would loved to support Antique and its development, and so the rest of the region BUT with this kind of attitude they are showing us Ilonggos, then it's another story to make in the days to come. We never bothered them what projects they want for their provinces BUT why would they want to get involve in the city's affair? Are they nuts? What are they hoping to get from this one? A minute support from anti-coal lobbyists?

Also, I wonder why Nava of Guimaras signed the petition as well. Trenas is right when he says, Nava is part of MIGEDC, which highly support and has been consulted with the coal plant. Why there's a sudden change of windblow? Maybe this could be a lesson for Iloilo City, MIG and Iloilo Province as a whole. This is something that Trenas needs to assess and be mindful of. I hailed Tupas for its stand and knows his jurisdiction.

Again, a great lesson for us ILONGGOS. (By spacewagon1, posted in www.skycityscraper.com forum, October 11, 2008, 8:17pm)

* Ang mahambal ko lang. Ang kay Jerry kay Jerry. Kaluta lang inyo katol ah. I'm disapppointed with Nava... thats why MIDC was replaced with MIGEDC to include and improve his province which used to be a part of Iloilo.... what a shame! But still I have nothing against Guimaras... Just with the governor's actions. hay! Kalampay! (Ilonggo Supremacy, posted in www.skycityscraper.com forum)

* A great lesson indeed. It’s not bad to source out renewable energy sources as well but out of courtesy, why don't they STFU?! Mind their own businesses because its not just for Iloilo City that would bring progress because of this.

I know their concern with the environment's cause but something has got to give in the name of progress, something has to be compromised. Geothermal energy in Negros has also to "damage" several portions of forest in order to create stable energy. Waay man ta nanghilabot sa ila nga desisyon kay kabalo man ta nga makabenepisyo man kita sa Panay sa enerhiya halin sa Negros kag sa Leyte!

I laud Cebu's leaders for their stand for progress. They have several coal power plants (and even have its own indigenous source) but I didn't heard any complain (or if there is, its minimal and doesn't make noise) not even the clergy which is lead by Jaime Cardinal Vidal...Cardinal na, indi lang arsobispo! I laud Iloilo City and Province's stand about this, good thing they are replicating the stand which Cebu did before. Sang pagpatukod ang mga coal power plants, nanghilabot ayhan ang mga gobernadores sa Katungaang Kabisay-an?

Of course not to damage the environment also, pero ang daw ginapagwa sang mga gobernadores daw kita mga Ilonggo mango sa aton nga ginhimu kag desisyon. Gintuonan ni sing maayo kag indi lang ni basta basta.

But again, something has got to give. Europe passed being dirty during the Industrial Revolution and now look at them! Look at their civilization!

And as for Al Gore, he did supported "clean-coal technology."

Hay, Pilipinas....land of the hypocrites and crabs! (Posted by habagatcentral1 in www.skycityscraper.com forum)

* Those governors who signed that petition are all hypocrites and a bunch of losers.. why on earth are these so-called "instant" environmentalist interfere with iloilo's decisions? are they really that concerned with the environment or or are these people just sour losers bent on hindering iloilo's progress? if this governor from antique is really concerned with the environment, why is semirara coal mining still in operation? maybe she should clean her own backyard first before poking in other LGU's business? these bunch of losers are anti-progress. instead of inter-provincial cooperation for the common good of all, they resorted to this "crab mentality" behaviour in the guise of righteousness. these people really underestimated us ilonggos. maybe they think we are idiots or morons and that we need their "divine guidance" for our own good.. gracious me! these people cant even uplift the lives of their constituents but still they try to lecture us on how to do things that dont affect them anyway. they failed to see that all people of panay will benefit in iloilo's progress and also the people of negros.. to the officials of iloilo and iloilo city, im proud that you stood firm on your decisions. after all, we have nothing to lose.. even the most advanced nations used coal to propel their society to the industrial age? so why cant we? unless these stupid, bunch of losers wanted to bring us development by using carabaos and stones for the rest of our lives. (Posted by true blue Ilonggo in www.skycityscraper.com)

* All I can comments with respect to the governors who opposed the coal power plant is mind your own business. Iloilo doesn’t interfered with what you are planning to do with your province, now why the sudden interest in our province? You governors are just insecure that you will be left behind too far and eating the dust when Iloilo go full speed ahead. Its CRAB MENTALITY. We Filipinos were doing it again. Kaya mabagal tayo umasenso. (Originally posted by Reynaldo Ledesma, in faaviews.wordpress.com, October 12, 2008 at 11:19 pm) Guardian

^^

what do u mean?

Don't mind him! Nagpapansin lang 'yan!

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aLTHough hindi pa ako nakapunta sa cebu... i think its a nice city... i have lots of classmates working there... Mitsumi, lexmark.. and the other world-class semicon, Fairchild.... what we lack in Iloilo are semicon companies... indi lng dapat BPO ang focus naton... we have lots of engineering grad here (ECE's, Comp Eng, and Packaging Eng. sng CPU) but mostly, sa out-of-the- province sila ga work..like me..nakalab-ot ko di sa bagiuo..a lot of my co-workers ask me if we have semicon company too.. i said, "mostly sa cebu lng nakabase ang mga semicon sa visayas..in iloilo, we focus more on small and medium enterprise, and other forms of busines... maybe another more yrs... basi may ara na..hope and pray..:)

aLTHough hindi pa ako nakapunta sa cebu... i think its a nice city... i have lots of classmates working there... Mitsumi, lexmark.. and the other world-class semicon, Fairchild.... what we lack in Iloilo are semicon companies... indi lng dapat BPO ang focus naton... we have lots of engineering grad here (ECE's, Comp Eng, and Packaging Eng. sng CPU) but mostly, sa out-of-the- province sila ga work..like me..nakalab-ot ko di sa bagiuo..a lot of my co-workers ask me if we have semicon company too.. i said, "mostly sa cebu lng nakabase ang mga semicon sa visayas..in iloilo, we focus more on small and medium enterprise, and other forms of busines... maybe another more yrs... basi may ara na..hope and pray..:)

Yeah sayang guid ang mga human resources naton nga puro lng sa gwa gaobra.

Budlay bal-an sa semicon industry, kinanglan sang support industries and logistics, like gas, chemicals and other materials sa pagprocess sang semicon, which is wala kita diri sa Iloilo.

Isa pa prospects on semicon is not that good. Even some companies in Calabarzon are closing down. It is also a volatile industy which is heavily dependent on the demand from other countries.

I think we should focus more on food processing, afterall, we are mainly an agricultural province. Syempre pati na rin BPO!

amo ni sya guro nahambal ni space nga basahon..hu:lol: e post ko nalang...

Ilonggos fume against Inday Sally

INTERNET forums and blogs are bristling with negative comments against Antique Salvacion Perez for her call to revoke the ECC of the proposed coal-fired power plant in Iloilo City.

Here are some of the unedited comments lifted from www.skycityscraper.com forum and faaviews.wordpress.com:

* Totally AGREE. Why would other provinces of the region dictate us of what we need to do and what we need to improve? This is a classic form of Filipinos' crab mentality. To say the least, the Province of Antique (governor), with the main industry of coal has been the one leading the quest.
As for me, this is unacceptable for Iloilo and Ilonggos to be dictated by these so called crabs. If ever we stop the construction, then it will be us "ILONGGOS" who will decide the fate of the plant.

For Iloilo City officials to call Perez a hypocrite is just apt and well-deserved. We would loved to support Antique and its development, and so the rest of the region BUT with this kind of attitude they are showing us Ilonggos, then it's another story to make in the days to come. We never bothered them what projects they want for their provinces BUT why would they want to get involve in the city's affair? Are they nuts? What are they hoping to get from this one? A minute support from anti-coal lobbyists?

Also, I wonder why Nava of Guimaras signed the petition as well. Trenas is right when he says, Nava is part of MIGEDC, which highly support and has been consulted with the coal plant. Why there's a sudden change of windblow? Maybe this could be a lesson for Iloilo City, MIG and Iloilo Province as a whole. This is something that Trenas needs to assess and be mindful of. I hailed Tupas for its stand and knows his jurisdiction.

Again, a great lesson for us ILONGGOS. (By spacewagon1, posted in www.skycityscraper.com forum, October 11, 2008, 8:17pm)

* Ang mahambal ko lang. Ang kay Jerry kay Jerry. Kaluta lang inyo katol ah. I'm disapppointed with Nava... thats why MIDC was replaced with MIGEDC to include and improve his province which used to be a part of Iloilo.... what a shame! But still I have nothing against Guimaras... Just with the governor's actions. hay! Kalampay! (Ilonggo Supremacy, posted in www.skycityscraper.com forum)

* A great lesson indeed. It’s not bad to source out renewable energy sources as well but out of courtesy, why don't they STFU?! Mind their own businesses because its not just for Iloilo City that would bring progress because of this.

I know their concern with the environment's cause but something has got to give in the name of progress, something has to be compromised. Geothermal energy in Negros has also to "damage" several portions of forest in order to create stable energy. Waay man ta nanghilabot sa ila nga desisyon kay kabalo man ta nga makabenepisyo man kita sa Panay sa enerhiya halin sa Negros kag sa Leyte!

I laud Cebu's leaders for their stand for progress. They have several coal power plants (and even have its own indigenous source) but I didn't heard any complain (or if there is, its minimal and doesn't make noise) not even the clergy which is lead by Jaime Cardinal Vidal...Cardinal na, indi lang arsobispo! I laud Iloilo City and Province's stand about this, good thing they are replicating the stand which Cebu did before. Sang pagpatukod ang mga coal power plants, nanghilabot ayhan ang mga gobernadores sa Katungaang Kabisay-an?

Of course not to damage the environment also, pero ang daw ginapagwa sang mga gobernadores daw kita mga Ilonggo mango sa aton nga ginhimu kag desisyon. Gintuonan ni sing maayo kag indi lang ni basta basta.

But again, something has got to give. Europe passed being dirty during the Industrial Revolution and now look at them! Look at their civilization!

And as for Al Gore, he did supported "clean-coal technology."

Hay, Pilipinas....land of the hypocrites and crabs! (Posted by habagatcentral1 in www.skycityscraper.com forum)

* Those governors who signed that petition are all hypocrites and a bunch of losers.. why on earth are these so-called "instant" environmentalist interfere with iloilo's decisions? are they really that concerned with the environment or or are these people just sour losers bent on hindering iloilo's progress? if this governor from antique is really concerned with the environment, why is semirara coal mining still in operation? maybe she should clean her own backyard first before poking in other LGU's business? these bunch of losers are anti-progress. instead of inter-provincial cooperation for the common good of all, they resorted to this "crab mentality" behaviour in the guise of righteousness. these people really underestimated us ilonggos. maybe they think we are idiots or morons and that we need their "divine guidance" for our own good.. gracious me! these people cant even uplift the lives of their constituents but still they try to lecture us on how to do things that dont affect them anyway. they failed to see that all people of panay will benefit in iloilo's progress and also the people of negros.. to the officials of iloilo and iloilo city, im proud that you stood firm on your decisions. after all, we have nothing to lose.. even the most advanced nations used coal to propel their society to the industrial age? so why cant we? unless these stupid, bunch of losers wanted to bring us development by using carabaos and stones for the rest of our lives. (Posted by true blue Ilonggo in www.skycityscraper.com)

* All I can comments with respect to the governors who opposed the coal power plant is mind your own business. Iloilo doesn’t interfered with what you are planning to do with your province, now why the sudden interest in our province? You governors are just insecure that you will be left behind too far and eating the dust when Iloilo go full speed ahead. Its CRAB MENTALITY. We Filipinos were doing it again. Kaya mabagal tayo umasenso. (Originally posted by Reynaldo Ledesma, in faaviews.wordpress.com, October 12, 2008 at 11:19 pm) Guardian


talk about being catalysts for change, here they are!;)

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Region 6 fares well in ‘leisure and wellness fair’ in Russia

ILOILO City – The Department of Tourism (DOT) here took pride in the good showing of Western Visayas delegates to the Leisure and Wellness Fair in Russia recently.

Regional Director Edwin Trompeta said the experience was “very educational, productive and enlightening for the private sector property owners or representatives.”

Along with Trompeta, the region was represented by five premier resorts and one wellness spa in Boracay Island to the annual international travel fair that was also a selling mission for tourism destinations.

Trompeta said about 130 countries worldwide participated in the event.

“The more than 30 private sector property owners (from the Philippines) who went there practically met not only their quota (for sales) but even beyond it,” Trompeta enthused.

Delegates traveled to Moscow, Kosovo and Vladivostok to showcase their different destinations to the Russian market, whom Trompeta described as “rich.”

He said Russia is a very good market, although they are seasonal tourists, having only vacations during winter.

“The Russians have money to spend. Their lifestyle showed they’re ready for the (tourism) market,” he said.

Trompeta noted that through the years, Russian tourists have been increasing and registering as one of the highest arrivals in the country.

Tourism Assistant Regional Director Helen Camarista-Catalbas said participating in international travel fairs such as the one in Russia means a lot to the tourism industry in the region since Western Visayas is a resort destination.

“Wellness and spa centers are also flourishing here, as well as our natural attractions,” Catalbas added.

She said the Russian market is fairly new to the region, but through the Leisure and Wellness Fair, it is hoped they come and visit the destinations in Western Visayas. (PNA)

source: Panay News (http://panaynewsphilippines.com/main%20news%206.htm)

^^^^ Go ILOILO! Go Boracay! Go Western Visayas! :banana::banana::banana::banana:

russian oligarchs and oil magnates and their entourage are known to be conspicuous spenders whenever and wherever they travel. from western made fast cars, tailor-made bespoke suits, to debeers crafted diamonds, these moscow noveau rich readily gooble them up. they built a reputation in recent years for the wild and lavish parties they conduct in just about every hotel they choose to stay. russians are also hearty eaters and strong drinkers. a reputation which boracay, as one of premier summer destinations can take advantage everytime those wealthy russians escape those bitter moscow winters and decide to vacation in boracay. vodka, anyone?

You know what, i think if there is ever a rivalry in terms of coffeeshop business here in iloilo, it is between bluejay and coffeebreak. Both started at about the same year, both are iloilo brands, both cater to the same clientele, both have numerous brances and both have about the same prices offered. I think rivalries are good for business, keeps them on their toes and forces them to offer more value to the customers.

i remember the days when there were also rivalries in other areas of business, like in the restaurant business, there was a rivalry between mr. lee garden restaurant (now closed) and dainty house. Summer house was still an upstart. In the boutique business, there was a rivalry between china arts and china rose, in the siopao business, there is still the rivalry of kong kee and roberto's. In terms of malls, Payless and Atrium.

while one is having branches like mushrooms the other is just taking it more slowly.yet this seem to do well. though i have the impression that both have a different clientele :lol:

both coffeeshops will endure the entry of SB or any other coffeeshop since there is a what we call a modern coffee culture sweeping the city :cheers:

rivalries
- chinese restos rivalries are always a classic bisan diin nga city but ours seem to be a friendly rivalry and i hope one can start making an overhaul towards modernity prompting the others to follow suit.

- those "china" stores we sort of mini dept stores and both wer just stone throws away (the one at amigo and the one near queenbank building across the street). china arts had the bigger advantage being located in a mall though

- sio pao is always synomous with kong kee while its hamburger for roberto's but it seems the latter made some splash with their king and queen sio pao lately.

- it could have been a 3-way fight between iloilo supermart-payless and sm delgado but payless seemed to have surrendered while the other two kept on :bash: until now. :lol:

DENR says ECC for Iloilo coal-fired power plant stays
By Nestor P. Burgos Jr.

The Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) has bucked calls of five Western Visayas governors to revoke a government permit for a coal-fired power plant in Iloilo City.


"We respect the position of the governors. But I hope they listen to the side of the DENR," Environment Secretary Jose "Lito" Atienza said in a telephone interview on Monday.

Atienza said the environmental certificate of compliance (ECC) for a coal-fired power plant will remain unless there is a violation of any provisions of the permit.

The governors have written to President Macapagal-Arroyo and issued a manifesto calling for the revocation of the ECC issued by Atienza to Panay Power Corp. (PPC) and the Metrobank-subsidiary Global Business Power Corp. (GBPC) for the construction of a 164-megawatt coal plant at the PPC site in Barangay Ingore in La Paz District here.

They said the project poses health and environmental risks to residents of Western Visayas. Those who signed the manifesto include Governors Salvacion Zaldivar-Perez of Antique, Carlito Marquez of Aklan, Victor Tanco Sr. of Capiz, Felipe Nava of Guimaras and Isidro Zayco of Negros Occidental.

But Atienza said DENR engineers have thoroughly examined the technology to be used based on a similar plant in Taiwan.

"There is such thing as clean technology for the use of coal and we will closely monitor (the project) from construction to operation," he said.

Atienza said the governors should also look at the perennial power shortage in Iloilo and consider the needs of Iloilo and Panay Island.

"We should keep an open mind on this and not deprive ourselves of coal technology while the wealthy nations use it abundantly," said Atienza.

Iloilo City Mayor Jerry Treñas has scoffed at the governors for issuing the manifesto calling it a "violation of inter-local government unit (LGU) courtesy."

"Every community and LGU has the right to decide on its own on issues that affect their community. They should leave us alone because we don't interfere in their affairs," he said in a telephone interview.

The mayor said the coal plant is the only viable option for additional sources of power because there are no indigenous sources in Iloilo.

But environmental groups lauded the stand of the governors.

"This petition shows that Iloilo is fast becoming isolated on this issue. The province and city of Iloilo both want to remain in a dirty energy age by embracing coal while its neighbors are embracing a clean energy future. Governor Tupas and Mayor Treñas should join the flock and heed the call of its neighbors," said Jasper Inventor, International Climate and Energy Campaigner of Greenpeace International.

Greenpeace called on the President to declare the entire Western Visayas a "coal free zone" and a regional model for renewable energy development.

"The people of Region 6 has chosen to embrace clean energy sources, it is time that all region’s leaders, including the national government, should follow the will of the people," said Inventor in a e-mailed statement.

The Madia-as Ecological Movement (MEM) also supported the governors' call.

"We will complement their call with protest actions. Indeed, global warming caused mainly by coal emissions have reached an alarming state," said MEM convenor Ma. Geobelyn Lopez.

The Great Flow Opening
By Nonoi D. Ybiernas


Steven, Katrina Loring, Lauren Uy and
JR Bondoc.The symbol of; Iloilo City's premiere nightlife partying FLOW Super Club opened recently their latest and most sophisticated; party shrine ever, to accommodate their already overflowing nightly guests with a great gig that the city's party animals have never seen before.; Located a few meters across their old site, the new super club is bigger, beautifully furnished and equipped with the state of the art; sound system and lightings. This makes them truly the trendsetter in music and lifestyle.

Owned by the Loring family of the famed Hotel del Rio, the owners has long been exposed to the hospitality business, making them specialists in providing the socially active Ilonggos with fantastic entertainment, quality food; and good service. The super club was officially opened by the dashing Vice Mayor of Iloilo Jed Patrick Mabilog and entertainment; and showbiz columnist Ms. Dolly Anne Carvajal assisted by Flow's Cedric and Engel Loring.


On its opening night, all came in their white ensembles following the dictates of the invite and glided their way on to the red carpet and into the portal of the new shrine. The energetic and very good looking disc jockey DJ Jay Villaruz of Team Switch-Manila was ruling over the music board with the Embassy SuperClub Ledge Dancers pumping up the heat. Everyone was awed by what they saw…it was incredibly dazzling!

Expect more cutting–edge entertainment and theme parties now that Flow Super Club has taken clubbing experience into the next level.



^^mayu gid man ang bago na Flow subong, apat gid LCD's nila... more to come pa sa Smallville, patterned na dan sa Libis...:)

^^^^ hail the DENR! I give my full support to our Department of Natural Resources for maintaining the ECC and not be swayed by these crabs. They need to accept change if they want to progress. No wonder Antique is economically-deprived due to its "balimbing" governor. Sala sa init, sala sa lamig. Pati DENR's decision, questionon pa nila. What do they think of DENR's experts and scientists. Mas maalam pa sila.

Go ILOILO! Go ILONGGOS!

Show your support to the Clean Technology Coal fired Power Plant in Iloilo City and Iloilo Province!

Hala Bira!

Imagine how HYPOCRITE SALLY PEREZ:

GMA's '03 speech bares change of tune for Antique gov on coal-fired power plant issue (http://thenewstoday.info/2008/10/14/gmas.03.speech.bares.change.of.tune.html)

from The News Today

plastic gid na si Perez...:hammer: kun diin na plantsado na, dira man saya iya nag kontra, nanu man... toink...:bash:

btw, labay ko gina Amigo, tugnaw pag labay ko sa my mall ayun kag my mga suga na sila gina pa siga kag ok na mga ceilings nila based sa guwa mag lantaw ka...

bwas naman ah, tambay ko anay CB Gen Luna...:):lol:

ay toto, diin ikaw nga miya-ok kang Iloilo nagkadto man?? ukon Iloilo gid man gin kadtuan mo??

kon waay ikaw ti mayad nga ihambal sa isa ka lugar, palihog kipota baba mo kay bahu!

ngaa nagapanago kaw sa imo nga username haw? abi pakilala kaw kag panindugi ang imo nga mga ginapanghambal...ano kaw? talaw?

ano ku-on mo? bacolod? dumaguete? purya gaba! indi gani mag-umpisa ha...basi magbalik kanimo ginapanghambal mo!

^^i love to read your posts @alimol, naga ragumo guid ya, hehehe.

The Queen Mother of the South
By Tessa C. Mauricio

“Welcome to the Queen City of the South!”


Fast forward to the 1900s—the establishment of roads, a railway line, an airport, and the surge of the sugar industry in between—Iloilo rightly received her crown as the Queen City of the South. And not only did she prosper in agriculture and commerce, but she also regaled the rest of the nation with grand architectural structures, superior educational establishments, the most glittering of socials, and lively cultural festivities.

Soon, Her Majesty’s able sons became the country’s most important business pioneers,
among them, Eugenio Lopez, Gregorio Araneta, and a host of other prominent family names, who reaped sweet success from sugar planting. Iloilo, of course, was proud of her children, but there was a price to be paid....
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Sorry I don't have the original link, but I've had this article saved for a long time.

^^ gracias por el artículo @Atx! ¿Que tal? are you still in Texas?

amo ni sya guro nahambal ni space nga basahon..hu:lol: e post ko nalang...

Ilonggos fume against Inday Sally

INTERNET forums and blogs are bristling with negative comments against Antique Salvacion Perez for her call to revoke the ECC of the proposed coal-fired power plant in Iloilo City.

Here are some of the unedited comments lifted from www.skycityscraper.com forum and faaviews.wordpress.com:

* Totally AGREE. Why would other provinces of the region dictate us of what we need to do and what we need to improve? This is a classic form of Filipinos' crab mentality. To say the least, the Province of Antique (governor), with the main industry of coal has been the one leading the quest.
As for me, this is unacceptable for Iloilo and Ilonggos to be dictated by these so called crabs. If ever we stop the construction, then it will be us "ILONGGOS" who will decide the fate of the plant.

For Iloilo City officials to call Perez a hypocrite is just apt and well-deserved. We would loved to support Antique and its development, and so the rest of the region BUT with this kind of attitude they are showing us Ilonggos, then it's another story to make in the days to come. We never bothered them what projects they want for their provinces BUT why would they want to get involve in the city's affair? Are they nuts? What are they hoping to get from this one? A minute support from anti-coal lobbyists?

Also, I wonder why Nava of Guimaras signed the petition as well. Trenas is right when he says, Nava is part of MIGEDC, which highly support and has been consulted with the coal plant. Why there's a sudden change of windblow? Maybe this could be a lesson for Iloilo City, MIG and Iloilo Province as a whole. This is something that Trenas needs to assess and be mindful of. I hailed Tupas for its stand and knows his jurisdiction.

Again, a great lesson for us ILONGGOS. (By spacewagon1, posted in www.skycityscraper.com forum, October 11, 2008, 8:17pm)

* Ang mahambal ko lang. Ang kay Jerry kay Jerry. Kaluta lang inyo katol ah. I'm disapppointed with Nava... thats why MIDC was replaced with MIGEDC to include and improve his province which used to be a part of Iloilo.... what a shame! But still I have nothing against Guimaras... Just with the governor's actions. hay! Kalampay! (Ilonggo Supremacy, posted in www.skycityscraper.com forum)

* A great lesson indeed. It’s not bad to source out renewable energy sources as well but out of courtesy, why don't they STFU?! Mind their own businesses because its not just for Iloilo City that would bring progress because of this.

I know their concern with the environment's cause but something has got to give in the name of progress, something has to be compromised. Geothermal energy in Negros has also to "damage" several portions of forest in order to create stable energy. Waay man ta nanghilabot sa ila nga desisyon kay kabalo man ta nga makabenepisyo man kita sa Panay sa enerhiya halin sa Negros kag sa Leyte!

I laud Cebu's leaders for their stand for progress. They have several coal power plants (and even have its own indigenous source) but I didn't heard any complain (or if there is, its minimal and doesn't make noise) not even the clergy which is lead by Jaime Cardinal Vidal...Cardinal na, indi lang arsobispo! I laud Iloilo City and Province's stand about this, good thing they are replicating the stand which Cebu did before. Sang pagpatukod ang mga coal power plants, nanghilabot ayhan ang mga gobernadores sa Katungaang Kabisay-an?

Of course not to damage the environment also, pero ang daw ginapagwa sang mga gobernadores daw kita mga Ilonggo mango sa aton nga ginhimu kag desisyon. Gintuonan ni sing maayo kag indi lang ni basta basta.

But again, something has got to give. Europe passed being dirty during the Industrial Revolution and now look at them! Look at their civilization!

And as for Al Gore, he did supported "clean-coal technology."

Hay, Pilipinas....land of the hypocrites and crabs! (Posted by habagatcentral1 in www.skycityscraper.com forum)

* Those governors who signed that petition are all hypocrites and a bunch of losers.. why on earth are these so-called "instant" environmentalist interfere with iloilo's decisions? are they really that concerned with the environment or or are these people just sour losers bent on hindering iloilo's progress? if this governor from antique is really concerned with the environment, why is semirara coal mining still in operation? maybe she should clean her own backyard first before poking in other LGU's business? these bunch of losers are anti-progress. instead of inter-provincial cooperation for the common good of all, they resorted to this "crab mentality" behaviour in the guise of righteousness. these people really underestimated us ilonggos. maybe they think we are idiots or morons and that we need their "divine guidance" for our own good.. gracious me! these people cant even uplift the lives of their constituents but still they try to lecture us on how to do things that dont affect them anyway. they failed to see that all people of panay will benefit in iloilo's progress and also the people of negros.. to the officials of iloilo and iloilo city, im proud that you stood firm on your decisions. after all, we have nothing to lose.. even the most advanced nations used coal to propel their society to the industrial age? so why cant we? unless these stupid, bunch of losers wanted to bring us development by using carabaos and stones for the rest of our lives. (Posted by true blue Ilonggo in www.skycityscraper.com)
, Guardian

^^ palagpat guid ni bala si inday sally mo. flip lopper, get a backbone!

^^ Juice Mio Marimar! Mapanago na gid ko....yikes! :nuts: :runaway: :lol:
First we have NTB, then TotoPurz, then the media...who's next? Mayor Treñas and Sally in the forums? :lol: :lol:

^^wow, starring si toto berns kag si trueblue, :cheers2:
Its good to know that our discussions here about our city and province can get the attention of the media and the government. Before pictures lang ang guina kuha sang media diri courtesy of our intrepid photographers (i.e. chymera, IAMME, Bernie) now its our views and opinions, which is what should actually be lifted out of the forum. sako guro si totopurz and NTB ay, i havn't seen them post for a long time.

let us continue with more intelligent discussions and ignore distractions.

gud morning...can anybody help me... pano ko ma-access ang mga previous thread... for example ang thread 1.... since previously lng ako nag member... indi ko makita...:ohno:

^^ @ralph, you can find the old iloilo threads in the archives section of the philippine forums. I think its just under the samahan thread.

thread 4 --> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=277073
thread 5 --> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=257299

Yeah sayang guid ang mga human resources naton nga puro lng sa gwa gaobra.

Budlay bal-an sa semicon industry, kinanglan sang support industries and logistics, like gas, chemicals and other materials sa pagprocess sang semicon, which is wala kita diri sa Iloilo.

Isa pa prospects on semicon is not that good. Even some companies in Calabarzon are closing down. It is also a volatile industy which is heavily dependent on the demand from other countries.

I think we should focus more on food processing, afterall, we are mainly an agricultural province. Syempre pati na rin BPO!

^^yes, i agree, Agriculture is iloilo's bread and butter. We can develop other industries (BPO's, tourism) but let us not loose our focus on Agriculture. let us continue to be the bread basket of the south.

:banana::banana::banana:
@robusta, maybe your friend who is supposed to entertain you is somewhat a loner. That is why you do not appreciate the city you visited.

I have never been to Iloilo City, Bacolod City or to any Cities in the Philippines except from Laguna, Cavite up to Pampanga in Luzon. I like to visit Western Visayan cities hopefully next year. My late parents always tell me visit Iloilo City and around Panay Island. They used to live in San Jose, Antique and Iloilo City right before WWII. This is the reason I always visit Iloilo City thread so I will be oriented a bit.
I was born and raised in Cebu City. Currently living in New York.

^^ @ambutlang, new yorker ka gle? ari man lang ko diri sa jersey ah. 45 mins. drive lang ara na ako sa NYC.

The Great Flow Opening
By Nonoi D. Ybiernas


Steven, Katrina Loring, Lauren Uy and
JR Bondoc.The symbol of; Iloilo City's premiere nightlife partying FLOW Super Club opened recently their latest and most sophisticated; party shrine ever, to accommodate their already overflowing nightly guests with a great gig that the city's party animals have never seen before.; Located a few meters across their old site, the new super club is bigger, beautifully furnished and equipped with the state of the art; sound system and lightings. This makes them truly the trendsetter in music and lifestyle.

Owned by the Loring family of the famed Hotel del Rio, the owners has long been exposed to the hospitality business, making them specialists in providing the socially active Ilonggos with fantastic entertainment, quality food; and good service. The super club was officially opened by the dashing Vice Mayor of Iloilo Jed Patrick Mabilog and entertainment; and showbiz columnist Ms. Dolly Anne Carvajal assisted by Flow's Cedric and Engel Loring.


On its opening night, all came in their white ensembles following the dictates of the invite and glided their way on to the red carpet and into the portal of the new shrine. The energetic and very good looking disc jockey DJ Jay Villaruz of Team Switch-Manila was ruling over the music board with the Embassy SuperClub Ledge Dancers pumping up the heat. Everyone was awed by what they saw…it was incredibly dazzling!

Expect more cutting–edge entertainment and theme parties now that Flow Super Club has taken clubbing experience into the next level.



^^mayu gid man ang bago na Flow subong, apat gid LCD's nila... more to come pa sa Smallville, patterned na dan sa Libis...:)


it's been like 2 years since i went to the FLOW. it seems this new branch will be a new night haven. hope to visit the place one of these nights.

^^gid eh, ma four years na sila this Oct28 bala, still bangin' gyapon club nila...:dance:

^^
wow...OK gid gakatabo diri a....maintain the positive attitude

Andam lang si Inday Tara sa akon!!!! Ngaa ara didto sa column man?! :nuts::nuts::lol::lol::lol:

See, told you...we may be small but we have found a way to reach those people who are into policy making and media. ;)

Padayon lang ta! :okay:

Yes padayon! Ignore the trolls... maisog lang sa Forum mag post kag magamit pa alyas! Hoy! kung sino ka man hambal lang kung gusto mo pabalhas ta! Ari lang ko di ah!

Wehehehe! Mayo man kay Ilonggo Supremacy gin gamit sa inForum name ko hehehe. Its nice to be heard! This Forum is being heard! This serves more than outlet of our aspirations and frustrations to our beloved City... serve as a vehicle of ideas for change as well!

Cheers to us all!:cheers::cheers::cheers:

aLTHough hindi pa ako nakapunta sa cebu... i think its a nice city... i have lots of classmates working there... Mitsumi, lexmark.. and the other world-class semicon, Fairchild.... what we lack in Iloilo are semicon companies... indi lng dapat BPO ang focus naton... we have lots of engineering grad here (ECE's, Comp Eng, and Packaging Eng. sng CPU) but mostly, sa out-of-the- province sila ga work..like me..nakalab-ot ko di sa bagiuo..a lot of my co-workers ask me if we have semicon company too.. i said, "mostly sa cebu lng nakabase ang mga semicon sa visayas..in iloilo, we focus more on small and medium enterprise, and other forms of busines... maybe another more yrs... basi may ara na..hope and pray..:)
Nakapunta na ako ng Cebu, theyre nice and the SSCers are really accomodating. Regarding this new guy....nag papansin lang.:)

@incognito rn, Sa NYC Transit maintenance ako. May pamangkin ko O.R.rn sa a Pert Amboy Hospital, NJ. Nakita ko ang pictures mo sa Samahan Thread ang pag punta no sa Niagara falls.

Governors of Adjoining Provinces of Iloilo has no business meddling its affair especially the Coal power plant Generator. Cebu Province was struggling in the early 90's, with 2 hours brown out everyday until the Coal power plants was constructed in Naga City.

amo ni sya guro nahambal ni space nga basahon..hu:lol: e post ko nalang...

Ilonggos fume against Inday Sally

INTERNET forums and blogs are bristling with negative comments against Antique Salvacion Perez for her call to revoke the ECC of the proposed coal-fired power plant in Iloilo City.

Here are some of the unedited comments lifted from www.skycityscraper.com forum and faaviews.wordpress.com:

* Totally AGREE. Why would other provinces of the region dictate us of what we need to do and what we need to improve? This is a classic form of Filipinos' crab mentality. To say the least, the Province of Antique (governor), with the main industry of coal has been the one leading the quest.
As for me, this is unacceptable for Iloilo and Ilonggos to be dictated by these so called crabs. If ever we stop the construction, then it will be us "ILONGGOS" who will decide the fate of the plant.

For Iloilo City officials to call Perez a hypocrite is just apt and well-deserved. We would loved to support Antique and its development, and so the rest of the region BUT with this kind of attitude they are showing us Ilonggos, then it's another story to make in the days to come. We never bothered them what projects they want for their provinces BUT why would they want to get involve in the city's affair? Are they nuts? What are they hoping to get from this one? A minute support from anti-coal lobbyists?

Also, I wonder why Nava of Guimaras signed the petition as well. Trenas is right when he says, Nava is part of MIGEDC, which highly support and has been consulted with the coal plant. Why there's a sudden change of windblow? Maybe this could be a lesson for Iloilo City, MIG and Iloilo Province as a whole. This is something that Trenas needs to assess and be mindful of. I hailed Tupas for its stand and knows his jurisdiction.

Again, a great lesson for us ILONGGOS. (By spacewagon1, posted in www.skycityscraper.com forum, October 11, 2008, 8:17pm)

* Ang mahambal ko lang. Ang kay Jerry kay Jerry. Kaluta lang inyo katol ah. I'm disapppointed with Nava... thats why MIDC was replaced with MIGEDC to include and improve his province which used to be a part of Iloilo.... what a shame! But still I have nothing against Guimaras... Just with the governor's actions. hay! Kalampay! (Ilonggo Supremacy, posted in www.skycityscraper.com forum)

* A great lesson indeed. It’s not bad to source out renewable energy sources as well but out of courtesy, why don't they STFU?! Mind their own businesses because its not just for Iloilo City that would bring progress because of this.

I know their concern with the environment's cause but something has got to give in the name of progress, something has to be compromised. Geothermal energy in Negros has also to "damage" several portions of forest in order to create stable energy. Waay man ta nanghilabot sa ila nga desisyon kay kabalo man ta nga makabenepisyo man kita sa Panay sa enerhiya halin sa Negros kag sa Leyte!

I laud Cebu's leaders for their stand for progress. They have several coal power plants (and even have its own indigenous source) but I didn't heard any complain (or if there is, its minimal and doesn't make noise) not even the clergy which is lead by Jaime Cardinal Vidal...Cardinal na, indi lang arsobispo! I laud Iloilo City and Province's stand about this, good thing they are replicating the stand which Cebu did before. Sang pagpatukod ang mga coal power plants, nanghilabot ayhan ang mga gobernadores sa Katungaang Kabisay-an?

Of course not to damage the environment also, pero ang daw ginapagwa sang mga gobernadores daw kita mga Ilonggo mango sa aton nga ginhimu kag desisyon. Gintuonan ni sing maayo kag indi lang ni basta basta.

But again, something has got to give. Europe passed being dirty during the Industrial Revolution and now look at them! Look at their civilization!

And as for Al Gore, he did supported "clean-coal technology."

Hay, Pilipinas....land of the hypocrites and crabs! (Posted by habagatcentral1 in www.skycityscraper.com forum)

* Those governors who signed that petition are all hypocrites and a bunch of losers.. why on earth are these so-called "instant" environmentalist interfere with iloilo's decisions? are they really that concerned with the environment or or are these people just sour losers bent on hindering iloilo's progress? if this governor from antique is really concerned with the environment, why is semirara coal mining still in operation? maybe she should clean her own backyard first before poking in other LGU's business? these bunch of losers are anti-progress. instead of inter-provincial cooperation for the common good of all, they resorted to this "crab mentality" behaviour in the guise of righteousness. these people really underestimated us ilonggos. maybe they think we are idiots or morons and that we need their "divine guidance" for our own good.. gracious me! these people cant even uplift the lives of their constituents but still they try to lecture us on how to do things that dont affect them anyway. they failed to see that all people of panay will benefit in iloilo's progress and also the people of negros.. to the officials of iloilo and iloilo city, im proud that you stood firm on your decisions. after all, we have nothing to lose.. even the most advanced nations used coal to propel their society to the industrial age? so why cant we? unless these stupid, bunch of losers wanted to bring us development by using carabaos and stones for the rest of our lives. (Posted by true blue Ilonggo in www.skycityscraper.com)

* All I can comments with respect to the governors who opposed the coal power plant is mind your own business. Iloilo doesn’t interfered with what you are planning to do with your province, now why the sudden interest in our province? You governors are just insecure that you will be left behind too far and eating the dust when Iloilo go full speed ahead. Its CRAB MENTALITY. We Filipinos were doing it again. Kaya mabagal tayo umasenso. (Originally posted by Reynaldo Ledesma, in faaviews.wordpress.com, October 12, 2008 at 11:19 pm) Guardian
Natalupangdan gid man ang SSC, amo na gina tawag nga naga kuha kita source sang mga news sa ila, subong sila naman naga kuha sang mga hibo bon-ot sang mga Iloilo SSC forumers. At least bisan paano naka contribute kita para sa aton kasimanwa. Congrats sa inyo Pre! Batyag ko sang pag basa ko daw media man kita eh:lol::lol::banana::banana::banana:

The Great Flow Opening
By Nonoi D. Ybiernas


Steven, Katrina Loring, Lauren Uy and
JR Bondoc.The symbol of; Iloilo City's premiere nightlife partying FLOW Super Club opened recently their latest and most sophisticated; party shrine ever, to accommodate their already overflowing nightly guests with a great gig that the city's party animals have never seen before.; Located a few meters across their old site, the new super club is bigger, beautifully furnished and equipped with the state of the art; sound system and lightings. This makes them truly the trendsetter in music and lifestyle.

Owned by the Loring family of the famed Hotel del Rio, the owners has long been exposed to the hospitality business, making them specialists in providing the socially active Ilonggos with fantastic entertainment, quality food; and good service. The super club was officially opened by the dashing Vice Mayor of Iloilo Jed Patrick Mabilog and entertainment; and showbiz columnist Ms. Dolly Anne Carvajal assisted by Flow's Cedric and Engel Loring.


On its opening night, all came in their white ensembles following the dictates of the invite and glided their way on to the red carpet and into the portal of the new shrine. The energetic and very good looking disc jockey DJ Jay Villaruz of Team Switch-Manila was ruling over the music board with the Embassy SuperClub Ledge Dancers pumping up the heat. Everyone was awed by what they saw…it was incredibly dazzling!

Expect more cutting–edge entertainment and theme parties now that Flow Super Club has taken clubbing experience into the next level.



^^mayu gid man ang bago na Flow subong, apat gid LCD's nila... more to come pa sa Smallville, patterned na dan sa Libis...:)
T diin sila da? Hulata pa gid ang opening sang MO2 Ice Bar. :banana::banana::banana::banana::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

plastic gid na si Perez...:hammer: kun diin na plantsado na, dira man saya iya nag kontra, nanu man... toink...:bash:

btw, labay ko gina Amigo, tugnaw pag labay ko sa my mall ayun kag my mga suga na sila gina pa siga kag ok na mga ceilings nila based sa guwa mag lantaw ka...

bwas naman ah, tambay ko anay CB Gen Luna...:):lol:
Lapit na lang gali mag open:)

^^i love to read your posts @alimol, naga ragumo guid ya, hehehe.



^^ gracias por el artículo @Atx! ¿Que tal? are you still in Texas?



^^ palagpat guid ni bala si inday sally mo. flip lopper, get a backbone!



^^wow, starring si toto berns kag si trueblue, :cheers2:
Its good to know that our discussions here about our city and province can get the attention of the media and the government. Before pictures lang ang guina kuha sang media diri courtesy of our intrepid photographers (i.e. chymera, IAMME, Bernie) now its our views and opinions, which is what should actually be lifted out of the forum. sako guro si totopurz and NTB ay, i havn't seen them post for a long time.

let us continue with more intelligent discussions and ignore distractions.



^^ @ralph, you can find the old iloilo threads in the archives section of the philippine forums. I think its just under the samahan thread.

thread 4 --> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=277073
thread 5 --> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=257299



^^yes, i agree, Agriculture is iloilo's bread and butter. We can develop other industries (BPO's, tourism) but let us not loose our focus on Agriculture. let us continue to be the bread basket of the south.

:banana::banana::banana:


^^ @ambutlang, new yorker ka gle? ari man lang ko diri sa jersey ah. 45 mins. drive lang ara na ako sa NYC.

it's been like 2 years since i went to the FLOW. it seems this new branch will be a new night haven. hope to visit the place one of these nights.
Hope to visit the bar this friday:banana::banana::banana:

^^gid eh, ma four years na sila this Oct28 bala, still bangin' gyapon club nila...:dance:
Yes dungan gid na sila open sang Sunburst kaso nag close naman.


Yes padayon! Ignore the trolls... maisog lang sa Forum mag post kag magamit pa alyas! Hoy! kung sino ka man hambal lang kung gusto mo pabalhas ta! Ari lang ko di ah!

Relax Pre!:lol::lol:

Wehehehe! Mayo man kay Ilonggo Supremacy gin gamit sa inForum name ko hehehe. Its nice to be heard! This Forum is being heard! This serves more than outlet of our aspirations and frustrations to our beloved City... serve as a vehicle of ideas for change as well!

Cheers to us all!:cheers::cheers::cheers:[/QUOTE]
Skycityscraper.com?:lol:

Just got a text that those posts were published in today's paper "The Daily Guardian."

It goes to say that our opinions don't go nowhere and instead attracted some particular personages that some controversial and others in power and policy making.

Those who said no to the coal plant: Crabs.

Regarding the Queen City of the South, well basically, we're not that anymore. However, if we think about it, I haven't heard of a queen taken her title away from her. History will always tell her as a Queen. :)

^^ Actually its perpetual not unless the royal family of Spain would revoke it. Anyway, since majority of the historians in Iloilo are not ultra-nationalistic when it comes to historiography so I think there would be less chances of having it removed (the title given by Queen Regent in the 19th Century).

Anyway, let the title be. There are other things in life that we can focus.

Anyways, how I missed Iloilo.
Just went to my alma mater (INHS).

I also noticed traffic management got stict. This is in a way, nice. :)

Anyways, how I missed Iloilo.
Just went to my alma mater (INHS).

I also noticed traffic management got stict. This is in a way, nice. :)

hey:)..batch ano ka migs? ur from inhs huh...batch 2001 ako, by 2011 my grand reunion daw kami... i bet ur not in regular class... u maybe from special sci or arts?.... i miss my alma mater too....


By the way, to all forumers.. hows the development in the old mandurriao airport?..excited na ko mabal-am amg balita da...

^^ Special Science gid sya migs. :)

Anyway, can someone post a pic of The Flow Superclub? I'm a bit intrigued and curious about the utilization of the term "superclub" as it may have been at par with The Embassy and Dolce of Manila.

hot sang pihak nga thread ah

^^ Just mind our own business here Aeriz. If they intend to do it, then fine. We have to discuss our own things here hopefully without comparison or hikaay or anything.

ok... well its good to be back

elow,,Guys,,.long time naman wala ko ka post di bah..Busy beh sa school kay sa Roxas na ko gaschool..Btw,Lapit na lang matapos ang Home Depot lapit Pag-ibig..Its quite Big.

I think we should stop this fighting whatsoever or pabati-bati bala.
Lets do something good like...reporting good news without any reference or emphasizing comparison or pabati-bati.

This way, we could avoid potential CvCs between the 2 threads.
Will you agree with this?

Regarding sa vacant lot sa likod Atrium,u/c na siya subong pero indi pa gid clear kung ano ang ipatindog didto..About sa Amigo naman lapit nalng matapos renovation nila kag na gid tulokon.

OK. I can see that there are posts here that might lead to confrontation.

Before any arguments could start, may I remind everyone to avoid these kind of conversations. And if you feel offended by someone, please report it to me ASAP.

Thank you.

And the forum also discourages anyone to type in all caps, bold and big letters. Please read the forum rules in the SSC Philippines home page.

nakita ko last time ang sa may atrium ayun

daw commercial building man ubrahon

though wala pa rendering

U/C

- Home Depot near pag-big
- Commercial building at the side of Atrium
- SPICE
- Mo2 Icebar, convention center, and park
- Biscocho House (Pavia)
- Commecial building (near airport)
- Commercial complex near airport road (Sta. Barbara)
- Subdivision near airport road?

Recently completed
- Townsville (4-storey building?)

On-going Renovation
- Amigo Terrace Hotel and Mall

Please add/revise

OK. I can see that there are posts here that might lead to confrontation.

Before any arguments could start, may I remind everyone to avoid these kind of conversations. And if you feel offended by someone, please report it to me ASAP.

Thank you.

And the forum also discourages anyone to type in all caps, bold and big letters. Please read the forum rules in the SSC Philippines home page.

The QUEEN has spoken. Everybody must behave or else you get a whipping! :colgate:

Seriously, let us have a healthy discussion here and as much as possible let us not be offending with our posts whether directly or indirectly to others. :)

I tenk you. Bow.

Capiz guv apologizes to Iloilo mayor
By Lydia C. Pendon | Sunstar Iloilo

CAPIZ Governor Victor Tanco is asking an apology from Mayor Jerry P. Treñas for not telling him directly the governors' plan to petition for the revocation of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) environmental clearance certificate (ECC).

The certificate was reportedly issued to a power firm planning to put up a coal-fired power plant in Iloilo City.

Tanco said "Mayor Treñas is a good friend and whatever his decision is, I am going to respect it. I am not against the coal-fired power plant but only on the ECC issued for a coal plant to be built in a very populace area within the city of Iloilo."

Earlier, Treñas expressed disappointment over the petition of the governors opposing the coal-fired power plant in the city, saying he had met Governor Salvacion Perez and the other governors in Manila last week but they never told him about their petition.

Tanco also wanted a dialogue with city officials in Iloilo to thresh out whatever misunderstanding that occurred and may occur further regarding the establishment of the first coal-fired power plant in Panay Island.

Last week, five governors of Western Visayas -- Carlito Marquez of Aklan, Tanco of Capiz, Perez of Antique, Felipe Hilan Nava of Guimaras, and Pedro Zayco of Negros Occidental -- sent a petition to President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo requesting revocation of the ECC issued to Global Business Power Corp., proponent of the P18 billion coal fired-power plant in Iloilo.

The governors, except Governor Niel Tupas of Iloilo, claimed that the coal power plant is hazardous to health and the environment and that it could affect their own constituents residing in Iloilo as students and workers.

However, several city barangay chiefs in Iloilo City slammed the governors' petition, saying they (governors) have not even seen the area proposed to host the first coal-fired power plant in Panay.

The plant is at the outskirt of the city along a coastal area at the end of Barangay Ingore, La Paz which not overly populated as claimed by the governors. It is also far from the city proper where most students and workers reside.

However, DENR Secretary Lito Atienza earlier said the proponent had met all the necessary requirements, including on health and environmental issues, prompting the issuance of the ECC last September 1, 2008.

He said the ECC stays unless there is a flagrant violation of the permit.

Atienza said the governors should also look at the power shortage in Iloilo and consider the power needs not only of Iloilo but the whole Panay Island as well.

The DENR chief added that coal power is widely used in the Americas, Europe and Asian countries like Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, Korea, Japan and China, adding that these countries are not solely dependent on fossil fuel for its power needs.

Meanwhile, Governor Tupas reiterated his full support to the coal-fired power plant as necessary to attract business investors in the city and province of Iloilo.

Tupas said that although he respects the move of the governors against the ECC of the coal-fired power plant, he is looking into the future benefits of Iloilo having additional power supply.

The governor said the province has a new and modern airport of international standards, but having frequent power brownouts would not attract the investors to come in.

Open bidding up for city hall property
From: Sunstar Iloilo

NO MORE land swap deal and the City Government in Iloilo is opening up a bidding for the high prized city property along Plaza Libertad that would sell the 2,100 square meter lot within the appraised value.

City Mayor Jerry P. Trenas announced this Tuesday after a land swap negotiation with Megaworld Corp. reached its end last weekend.

The ad hoc committee created by Treñas last month and headed by Vice Mayor Jed Mabilog submitted a report on this date regarding its study and recommendations on the Megaworld offer to host the new city hall.

However, Trenas said that Megaworld can still bid with the property estimated to have an appraised value of more than P24 million at P11,000 per square meter.

Megaworld can also bid in the construction of the new city hall provided that the Philippine Contractors Accreditation board accredits it.

The city is also planning to buy a 4,500 square meter lot offered by Megaworld within the old airport area in Mandurriao district valued at P3,000 per square meter or some P10.7 million. The new city hall will be built in this area, Trenas said.

Iloilo City is also planning to buy an additional 2,500 square meters from the Megaworld property to add to the land area where it is planning to build the new city hall.

The new city hall, designed by foremost architect William Coscolluela, will be eight storeys high and will have ample space for parking and other amenities for a city hall of a highly urbanized city.(LCP)

Iloilo City continues to prepare for BPO investors amid economic slowdown

October 14, 2008 1:44 pm by pna (http://news.balita.ph/author/pna/)

ILOILO CITY, Oct. 14 – Iloilo City continues to position itself as a strategic site for business process outsourcing (BPO) companies even with the economic recession happening in the United States now.

Iloilo City Mayor Jerry P. Treñas said except for those that cater to banks that have been affected by the economic recession in the United States, the BPO industry remains a sunshine industry.
”We acknowledge that Iloilo City has great potentials for BPO that can provide the necessary job opportunities for graduates,” Treñas said as he anchored his views on the presentation made by Dr. Emil Antonio, the president of the Center for Research and Communication Foundation, Inc during the recent economic briefing here.

He added that investments that would prepare the city for BPOs are starting to come in.
Aside from the Megaworld Corporation, the Ayala Group of Companies is also looking at establishing a two-storey building that will cater only to information technology investments.

Dr. Antonio during his presentation here shared that only about four percent of the BPO market has been tapped at present.

“BPO is a booming industry. There will be large portion that still has to be tapped that can drive the growth as long as we remain competitive,” he said.

Aside from the BPO industry, other industries that are growing faster according to Antonio are exports of semi-conductors, education and communication.

Nonetheless, Treñas urged everyone to be prudent and that both private and government sectors must observe good fiscal management.

“We are in for hard times because the US is one of our strongest partners,” he said. (PNA)

^^so final na nga sa Megaworld property ma construct sang new City Hall? 8 storeys guid man?

Open bidding up for city hall property
From: Sunstar Iloilo

NO MORE land swap deal and the City Government in Iloilo is opening up a bidding for the high prized city property along Plaza Libertad that would sell the 2,100 square meter lot within the appraised value.

City Mayor Jerry P. Trenas announced this Tuesday after a land swap negotiation with Megaworld Corp. reached its end last weekend.

The ad hoc committee created by Treñas last month and headed by Vice Mayor Jed Mabilog submitted a report on this date regarding its study and recommendations on the Megaworld offer to host the new city hall.

However, Trenas said that Megaworld can still bid with the property estimated to have an appraised value of more than P24 million at P11,000 per square meter.

Megaworld can also bid in the construction of the new city hall provided that the Philippine Contractors Accreditation board accredits it.

The city is also planning to buy a 4,500 square meter lot offered by Megaworld within the old airport area in Mandurriao district valued at P3,000 per square meter or some P10.7 million. The new city hall will be built in this area, Trenas said.

Iloilo City is also planning to buy an additional 2,500 square meters from the Megaworld property to add to the land area where it is planning to build the new city hall.

The new city hall, designed by foremost architect William Coscolluela, will be eight storeys high and will have ample space for parking and other amenities for a city hall of a highly urbanized city.(LCP)


^^so final na nga sa Megaworld property ma construct sang new City Hall? 8 storeys guid man?

looks like it :banana::pepper:

but still the same design? though it look more modern pero still it can be lost within the megaworld property. pero at last things are getting brighter :banana:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/headers/15.jpg

Imagine ILOILO CITY looking like this as viewed from GUIMARAS :lol:

hehehe

maybe MANG INASAL will have 100 branches by 2010 :banana:

Counting already existing and soon to open Mang Inasals, there will be 89 of them spread around the country. :)

@incognito rn, Sa NYC Transit maintenance ako. May pamangkin ko O.R.rn sa a Pert Amboy Hospital, NJ. Nakita ko ang pictures mo sa Samahan Thread ang pag punta no sa Niagara falls.

Governors of Adjoining Provinces of Iloilo has no business meddling its affair especially the Coal power plant Generator. Cebu Province was struggling in the early 90's, with 2 hours brown out everyday until the Coal power plants was constructed in Naga City.

^^wow, that's cool, so you're in NYC. hope to see you one of these days. I frequent NYC, i love going to broadway and the MET. :)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/headers/15.jpg

Imagine ILOILO CITY looking like this as viewed from GUIMARAS :lol:

hehehe

^^i'd love to see the bridge connect both islands. One can be the leisure/tourist destination (Guimaras) the other for business and commerce (iloilo). :okay:

Capiz guv apologizes to Iloilo mayor
By Lydia C. Pendon | Sunstar Iloilo

CAPIZ Governor Victor Tanco is asking an apology from Mayor Jerry P. Treñas for not telling him directly the governors' plan to petition for the revocation of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) environmental clearance certificate (ECC).

The certificate was reportedly issued to a power firm planning to put up a coal-fired power plant in Iloilo City.

Tanco said "Mayor Treñas is a good friend and whatever his decision is, I am going to respect it. I am not against the coal-fired power plant but only on the ECC issued for a coal plant to be built in a very populace area within the city of Iloilo."

Earlier, Treñas expressed disappointment over the petition of the governors opposing the coal-fired power plant in the city, saying he had met Governor Salvacion Perez and the other governors in Manila last week but they never told him about their petition.

Tanco also wanted a dialogue with city officials in Iloilo to thresh out whatever misunderstanding that occurred and may occur further regarding the establishment of the first coal-fired power plant in Panay Island.

Last week, five governors of Western Visayas -- Carlito Marquez of Aklan, Tanco of Capiz, Perez of Antique, Felipe Hilan Nava of Guimaras, and Pedro Zayco of Negros Occidental -- sent a petition to President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo requesting revocation of the ECC issued to Global Business Power Corp., proponent of the P18 billion coal fired-power plant in Iloilo.

The governors, except Governor Niel Tupas of Iloilo, claimed that the coal power plant is hazardous to health and the environment and that it could affect their own constituents residing in Iloilo as students and workers.

However, several city barangay chiefs in Iloilo City slammed the governors' petition, saying they (governors) have not even seen the area proposed to host the first coal-fired power plant in Panay.

The plant is at the outskirt of the city along a coastal area at the end of Barangay Ingore, La Paz which not overly populated as claimed by the governors. It is also far from the city proper where most students and workers reside.

However, DENR Secretary Lito Atienza earlier said the proponent had met all the necessary requirements, including on health and environmental issues, prompting the issuance of the ECC last September 1, 2008.

He said the ECC stays unless there is a flagrant violation of the permit.

Atienza said the governors should also look at the power shortage in Iloilo and consider the power needs not only of Iloilo but the whole Panay Island as well.

The DENR chief added that coal power is widely used in the Americas, Europe and Asian countries like Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, Korea, Japan and China, adding that these countries are not solely dependent on fossil fuel for its power needs.

Meanwhile, Governor Tupas reiterated his full support to the coal-fired power plant as necessary to attract business investors in the city and province of Iloilo.

Tupas said that although he respects the move of the governors against the ECC of the coal-fired power plant, he is looking into the future benefits of Iloilo having additional power supply.

The governor said the province has a new and modern airport of international standards, but having frequent power brownouts would not attract the investors to come in.

this is a welcome public apology coming from the governor of the province of Capiz. I hope the other 4 governors will follow soon.

Again, I am very happy with the staunched stand of Gov Tupas of Iloilo regarding the issue. Well done, Gov Tupaz! :banana::banana::banana:

DENR says ECC for Iloilo coal-fired power plant stays
By Nestor P. Burgos Jr.

The Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) has bucked calls of five Western Visayas governors to revoke a government permit for a coal-fired power plant in Iloilo City.


"We respect the position of the governors. But I hope they listen to the side of the DENR," Environment Secretary Jose "Lito" Atienza said in a telephone interview on Monday.

Atienza said the environmental certificate of compliance (ECC) for a coal-fired power plant will remain unless there is a violation of any provisions of the permit.

The governors have written to President Macapagal-Arroyo and issued a manifesto calling for the revocation of the ECC issued by Atienza to Panay Power Corp. (PPC) and the Metrobank-subsidiary Global Business Power Corp. (GBPC) for the construction of a 164-megawatt coal plant at the PPC site in Barangay Ingore in La Paz District here.

They said the project poses health and environmental risks to residents of Western Visayas. Those who signed the manifesto include Governors Salvacion Zaldivar-Perez of Antique, Carlito Marquez of Aklan, Victor Tanco Sr. of Capiz, Felipe Nava of Guimaras and Isidro Zayco of Negros Occidental.

But Atienza said DENR engineers have thoroughly examined the technology to be used based on a similar plant in Taiwan.

"There is such thing as clean technology for the use of coal and we will closely monitor (the project) from construction to operation," he said.

Atienza said the governors should also look at the perennial power shortage in Iloilo and consider the needs of Iloilo and Panay Island.

"We should keep an open mind on this and not deprive ourselves of coal technology while the wealthy nations use it abundantly," said Atienza.

Iloilo City Mayor Jerry Treñas has scoffed at the governors for issuing the manifesto calling it a "violation of inter-local government unit (LGU) courtesy."

"Every community and LGU has the right to decide on its own on issues that affect their community. They should leave us alone because we don't interfere in their affairs," he said in a telephone interview.

The mayor said the coal plant is the only viable option for additional sources of power because there are no indigenous sources in Iloilo.

But environmental groups lauded the stand of the governors.

"This petition shows that Iloilo is fast becoming isolated on this issue. The province and city of Iloilo both want to remain in a dirty energy age by embracing coal while its neighbors are embracing a clean energy future. Governor Tupas and Mayor Treñas should join the flock and heed the call of its neighbors," said Jasper Inventor, International Climate and Energy Campaigner of Greenpeace International.

Greenpeace called on the President to declare the entire Western Visayas a "coal free zone" and a regional model for renewable energy development.

"The people of Region 6 has chosen to embrace clean energy sources, it is time that all region’s leaders, including the national government, should follow the will of the people," said Inventor in a e-mailed statement.

The Madia-as Ecological Movement (MEM) also supported the governors' call.

"We will complement their call with protest actions. Indeed, global warming caused mainly by coal emissions have reached an alarming state," said MEM convenor Ma. Geobelyn Lopez.

^^^^best stand "ever" coming from the Department of Environment and Natural Resources. Well done, Atienza.

By the way, it's odd to note that some groups are planning protests, etc in response to ECC approval. I don't know that protest and mass actions are still very "in" the Philippines to date? Do you think, we might as well take our energy by looking for means to provide our families with food than joining this rally? EDSA died ages ago. And after several attempt in the capital lately, no individual in his right mind will waste their time or day to succumb into revolution. It's the same thing in Iloilo. Have you heard any plotical rally in Iloilo lately unless it's a "check attendance" rally by students? Daw pareho lang balahambal sang driver namon haw .. "mangita na lang ko kinawara ko kesa mag-entra sa rally. Wala man in kapulos-pulos kung tan-awon mo".

Iloilo City continues to prepare for BPO investors amid economic slowdown

October 14, 2008 1:44 pm by pna (http://news.balita.ph/author/pna/)

ILOILO CITY, Oct. 14 – Iloilo City continues to position itself as a strategic site for business process outsourcing (BPO) companies even with the economic recession happening in the United States now.

Iloilo City Mayor Jerry P. Treñas said except for those that cater to banks that have been affected by the economic recession in the United States, the BPO industry remains a sunshine industry.
”We acknowledge that Iloilo City has great potentials for BPO that can provide the necessary job opportunities for graduates,” Treñas said as he anchored his views on the presentation made by Dr. Emil Antonio, the president of the Center for Research and Communication Foundation, Inc during the recent economic briefing here.

He added that investments that would prepare the city for BPOs are starting to come in.
Aside from the Megaworld Corporation, the Ayala Group of Companies is also looking at establishing a two-storey building that will cater only to information technology investments.

Dr. Antonio during his presentation here shared that only about four percent of the BPO market has been tapped at present.

“BPO is a booming industry. There will be large portion that still has to be tapped that can drive the growth as long as we remain competitive,” he said.

Aside from the BPO industry, other industries that are growing faster according to Antonio are exports of semi-conductors, education and communication.

Nonetheless, Treñas urged everyone to be prudent and that both private and government sectors must observe good fiscal management.

“We are in for hard times because the US is one of our strongest partners,” he said. (PNA)

very good news para sa aton sa Iloilo. This shows how resilient Iloilo and Iloilo market is. I hope that we can diversified more and not only focus our means for BPOs. Iloilo City and Iloilo Province has a lot to offer. We are still at very young are when it comes to tourism. We need to do more on tourism as well. Also, our manufacturing sectors and services needs to be upgraded, developed and diversified as well. Rightly, we are hitting every corners of development. All we need to do is continue promoting Iloilo as the best alternative site for investors to invest and put up their businesses after Manila.

Open bidding up for city hall property
From: Sunstar Iloilo

NO MORE land swap deal and the City Government in Iloilo is opening up a bidding for the high prized city property along Plaza Libertad that would sell the 2,100 square meter lot within the appraised value.

City Mayor Jerry P. Trenas announced this Tuesday after a land swap negotiation with Megaworld Corp. reached its end last weekend.

The ad hoc committee created by Treñas last month and headed by Vice Mayor Jed Mabilog submitted a report on this date regarding its study and recommendations on the Megaworld offer to host the new city hall.

However, Trenas said that Megaworld can still bid with the property estimated to have an appraised value of more than P24 million at P11,000 per square meter.

Megaworld can also bid in the construction of the new city hall provided that the Philippine Contractors Accreditation board accredits it.

The city is also planning to buy a 4,500 square meter lot offered by Megaworld within the old airport area in Mandurriao district valued at P3,000 per square meter or some P10.7 million. The new city hall will be built in this area, Trenas said.

Iloilo City is also planning to buy an additional 2,500 square meters from the Megaworld property to add to the land area where it is planning to build the new city hall.

The new city hall, designed by foremost architect William Coscolluela, will be eight storeys high and will have ample space for parking and other amenities for a city hall of a highly urbanized city.(LCP)

I totally agree with this one. I think by bidding the site, Iloilo City "will probably" gain more than just a land swap. I hope to hear more developments re the new city hall of Iloilo in the next few weeks.

nakita ko last time ang sa may atrium ayun

daw commercial building man ubrahon

though wala pa rendering

Regarding sa vacant lot sa likod Atrium,u/c na siya subong pero indi pa gid clear kung ano ang ipatindog didto..About sa Amigo naman lapit nalng matapos renovation nila kag na gid tulokon.
i hope if this one is commercial indi siya gutok tan-awon nga daw crammed na. The area beside the Atrium looks really small to me to host commercial establishment unless it is an extension or expansion of the Atrium Mall itself. Anyhow, we'll see and know about this in the days to come. Cheers to te update, Aeriez and Kianshi.

Natalupangdan gid man ang SSC, amo na gina tawag nga naga kuha kita source sang mga news sa ila, subong sila naman naga kuha sang mga hibo bon-ot sang mga Iloilo SSC forumers. At least bisan paano naka contribute kita para sa aton kasimanwa. Congrats sa inyo Pre! Batyag ko sang pag basa ko daw media man kita eh:lol::lol::banana::banana::banana:
it's high time na gid man that Ilonggos-on-web will be recognised and will be entitled to share their opinions. We are the voice of Ilonggos communities outside the province and the city.

Anyway, I am very grateful to The Daily Guardian, its editor/s for featuring and incorporating our opinions for the Ilonggo public to read and see. Salamat guid nga dako sa inyo!