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demonoid724
April 28th, 2011, 07:21 AM
Damo ko paryente sa Bacolod which is why I just ignore the insinuations here. It's purely blabber coming from the other side.

I'm just wondering though ngaa kon kaisa some of the people I meet there answer back to me in Tagalog when I'm talking to them in Hiligaynon. :D

^^amo gid man na ya basta mga tisoyon.. gakasal-an nga taga manila :lol::lol::lol:

sa amon di ya, kada may mangayo nga paryente inugplete papuli sa negros or abuloy sa ila namatyan or gusto mangutang ginagaan namon, no questions asked but we are very much aware sg ginapanghambal nila against sa amon behind our backs so ila na ina ya galing karga de kunsensya, not ours. ara na gid na ya sa ila kultura ang pagkamahisa-on so intiendiha na lang.

ralph fiennes
April 28th, 2011, 07:33 AM
Amu na lang masiling ko, "We're like Brits and Yankees, North and South Koreans." :nocrook:
^^ or English and Scots..:)

angelkirk89
April 28th, 2011, 07:42 AM
is it just me or ka hinay sang April? hehe gadali man ko ma tapos and maka tapak sa May na, big things ahead!! :banana::banana:


haha...pareho ta...ngaa kahinay sang April man...? May oh May...:cheers:
^^amo gid man na ya basta mga tisoyon.. gakasal-an nga taga manila :lol::lol::lol:

sa amon di ya, kada may mangayo nga paryente inugplete papuli sa negros or abuloy sa ila namatyan or gusto mangutang ginagaan namon, no questions asked but we are very much aware sg ginapanghambal nila against sa amon behind our backs so ila na ina ya galing karga de kunsensya, not ours. ara na gid na ya sa ila kultura ang pagkamahisa-on so intiendiha na lang.

grabe man tawa ko ah.,..abuloy gid ya...

kasadya lang subong ACADEME naman ang na storyahan... ang ma comment ko lang

Basta didto ka dapat eskwela sa tood nga eskwelahan nga di pwede kabakal grades kag wala damu anomaliya...di ba PRC? di bala Dir. Baldago? :lol:

Basta may Kwarta may Diploma...:nuts:

4threich
April 28th, 2011, 07:47 AM
^^ or English and Scots..:)

more appropriate would be

we are dogs
and they are cats

we say AWO! AWO! AWO! go bordz!
they say meow, meow,meow...

:nuts:

eonynx
April 28th, 2011, 08:07 AM
^^:lol::lol::lol:

ronie
April 28th, 2011, 08:09 AM
its their job pre..mandated sila by law, kon wala NEDA approval nungka maghulag ang mga major impact nga project.

http://www.neda.gov.ph/about/legal_mandate.htm

in the regional level, let us not forget about the Regional Development Council which is the highest policy-making body in the region with NEDA as the secretariat. the council regularly meets at least once every quarter.

http://www.neda-rdc6.ph/a/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=51&Itemid=87

Pao_hotiee_20
April 28th, 2011, 08:09 AM
Solon works out P276-M additional city infra projects

ILOILO CITY, April 27 (PNA) – A second batch of major infrastructure projects amounting to P276 million for this southern city was included in this year’s regular budget of the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH).

City lone district Rep. Jerry P. Treñas said he had already submitted the second batch of projects that will hopefully upgrade the city to become more competitive and investment-friendly.

The first batch of projects worth more than P200 million is currently being worked out by DPWH. These were submitted by Treñas late last year and the projects include the circumferential and radial roads, road widening from Jaro to Leganes, rehabilitation of the Jaro Montinola Bridge, among others.

The second batch of projects include the P60 million seawall rehabilitation of Fort San Pedro, P49 million for Ticud Bridge construction and P32 million for bridge approaches, P25 million for diversion road widening, P50 million for Dungon Bridge rehabilitation and widening and P50 million for the rehabilitation of coastal road from La Paz area to the boundary of Leganes, Iloilo.

Treñas said he has filed a bill converting 19 city roads into national roads and that he is championing a bill for the upgrading of Western Visayas College of Science and Technology into a full-fledged university.

The solon’s bill was already submitted to the office of Senator Edgardo Angara, chairman of the Senate Committee on higher education for the Senate version before it is jointly approved as a law.

Similarly, the congressman’s bill calling for the redistricting of Iloilo City into two congressional districts is already at the office of Senator Ferdinand Marcos Jr, chairman of the Senate Committee on local governments. Hopefully, a law will be enacted before the end of 2011 for two Iloilo City congressional districts. (PNA (http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=&nid=2&rid=343164))
DCT/LAP/LCP/vlo

^^
Another GOOD NEWS! :applause::okay:

^^^^^^ Bro... Good news na naman.... Ah Ka nami lang basabasahon ah..... BTW, regarding sa redistricting bala......, sa aton ya sa province wala gin na plano ang 5 ka congressmen ta nga ma reapportion or ma redistrict man kita from 5 Legislative Districts into, let say 7 or 8 Legislative Districts... ang population naton I think sa last census 2010 daw lab-ot na bala 2,000,000 plus, I think it is high time nagid nga ma redistrict naman ang province, additional Legislative seats, additional voice to the house of reperesentative, Additional PDAF.......:)

vaatzhoy
April 28th, 2011, 08:11 AM
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/39716_141142945917121_100000642486492_266453_4504988_n.jpg

^^Basta indi ko magpa-apekto sa banat sang PN kag ni Ynion kay JPM kag JPT labi na gid may makita ka nga amo sini kanami nga building....diin ni siya ayon Hawili man? Daw namag-uhan ako sang katahum ka building kag katinlo sang alagyan.

vaatzhoy
April 28th, 2011, 08:14 AM
:master::master::master:^^^
I have a confession to make..indi ko tani pag gub on ang poll kay too early pa, sorry guys...lol
why i vote Austria

http://www.neda.gov.ph/odamon/ProjectProfile.asp?ProjectId=1759
PROJECT PROFILE
Title : Panay Railways in Visayas
Implementing Agency : DOTC
Funding Source : Austria - Soft Loan Facility
Sector/Subsector : INFRA/Transportation
Region/Location : 06 - Western Visayas
Sub-Regions : Panay Island

^^You are such a reliable person with this great kind of news

Haldir07
April 28th, 2011, 08:18 AM
^^Basta indi ko magpa-apekto sa banat sang PN kag ni Ynion kay JPM kag JPT labi na gid may makita ka nga amo sini kanami nga building....diin ni siya ayon Hawili man? Daw namag-uhan ako sang katahum ka building kag katinlo sang alagyan.

that's the masonic building sa Plaza Libertad

vaatzhoy
April 28th, 2011, 08:19 AM
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/39214_141106402587442_100000642486492_266232_3217510_n.jpg

SANTA MARIA CHURCH

^^Amo ni ang gindonate sang mga Lopezes nga duta patindugan kapilya tapos nangin simbahan. Pagkatapos nagpatindog sang gamay nga eskwelahan para sa mga bulilit, dayon may elementary kag high school and the rest is history Ateneo De Iloilo na! Dako pa kita nya sa UI. What a feat!

vaatzhoy
April 28th, 2011, 08:21 AM
that's the masonic building sa Plaza Libertad

^^Tahum kaayo sa iya gali no, abi ko indi na sa Iloilo....sorry amo ini ang epekto sang dugay wala ka bakasyon.:lol::lol::lol:

eonynx
April 28th, 2011, 08:22 AM
Don't peek into Bacolod thread! You'll be disappointed with comments of Rick. . .
to avoid negative reactions!!! and don't comment any further and make your thread a scrap! Thanks!

Just remember "Desiderata!" Cheers!!!

i think most of us here seldom do that for a long time! i kind appreciate what you probably feel right now. seeing that the frequent dwellers of that thread are far removed from being the best representatives of your hometown, your giving us a heads up in this thread could be an effort to somehow give your fellows their wake up call on how low some of them have become.

but sorry to disappoint you! this well-intentioned effort of yours would fall on many deaf ears and blind eyes. history in these forums speaks for itself time and again. rest assured most of us here treat the issue not with old-style chemotherapy that kills the good as well as the bad cancer cells, but selective criticisms that weed and highlight the bad guys from the good ones.
cheers!

Pao_hotiee_20
April 28th, 2011, 08:23 AM
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/40089_142317699132979_100000642486492_273602_5876805_n.jpg


^^^^^^^^ My Alma mater.. The John B. Lacson Foundation Maritime University... Dubbed as the First And Only Maritime University In the whole of South East Asia and In the Philippines..... and the only maritime institution that has been grated the level 4 accredited and re-accredited status By the PACUCOA or Philippine Association of Colleges and University commission on Accreditation and Granted Full Autonomous Status by Commission on Higher Education...... thanks For posting gali... Hawili Hurom....:banana::banana::banana:

demonoid724
April 28th, 2011, 08:27 AM
^^Amo ni ang gindonate sang mga Lopezes nga duta patindugan kapilya tapos nangin simbahan. Pagkatapos nagpatindog sang gamay nga eskwelahan para sa mga bulilit, dayon may elementary kag high school and the rest is history Ateneo De Iloilo na! Dako pa kita nya sa UI. What a feat!

^^this property, the whole Sta.Maria campus will be returned to Archdiocese of Jaro.

may bag-o na nga chapel sa new AdI campus?

vaatzhoy
April 28th, 2011, 08:29 AM
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/39051_140852295946186_100000642486492_264759_4654858_n.jpg

PASEO DE ILOILO

:applause::applause:WOW super tinlo pag nag-ulan kag ang tiles sang Robinsons gapamuyayaw sa dalan. Thanks for the pics Hawili daw naglagaw lang ko sa Rob subong ba.

vaatzhoy
April 28th, 2011, 08:31 AM
^^this property, the whole Sta.Maria campus will be returned to Archdiocese of Jaro.

may bag-o na nga chapel sa new AdI campus?

^^Damu naman ni properties gali sang mga pari eh kag exempted sa tax:ohno::ohno:

irong206
April 28th, 2011, 08:35 AM
maayong adlaw kag mainit init nga klima sa Iloilo.kadasig gid sang thread.damo gid man balantayan nga mga development sa Iloilo.watch kag lurking mode lang ako anay samtang nagahulat hulat sang mga explosive news halin sa aton a.i just finished back reading sang thread kag based sa present pictures of our city she's getting a lot prettier each day.katinlo gid kag damo improvent.ba if i will compare the pictures of the city 5 years ago than today the cleanliness and beuatification is well applauded.i bet to say kon may most clean and green city contest subong our city is on the top.although damo mga spaghetti wires sa my clle real nga naga palaw-ay at least indi man lang ta may amo pero ang talalupangdon amo ang pag pagkaorganisado sang traffic sa may iznart-delgado,valeria Gen. luna sts.,jm basa kag ginaimplementar gid ang anti jaywalking kag at least masling ko nga ang mga overpass may mga serbisyo na gid man nga matood tood sa mga tawo kag in fairness beautifully painted kag ang motto daw makahatag gid bugal sa tagsa tagsa ka mga Ilonggo.just my personal observation and opinion lang a.siguro ang aton mga iloilo base forumer makapamatoud gid sini

Pao_hotiee_20
April 28th, 2011, 08:41 AM
i think most of us here seldom do that for a long time! i kind appreciate what you probably feel right now. seeing that the frequent dwellers of that thread are far removed from being the best representatives of your hometown, your giving us a heads up in this thread could be an effort to somehow give your fellows their wake up call on how low some of them have become.

but sorry to disappoint you! this well-intentioned effort of yours would fall on many deaf ears and blind eyes. history in these forums speaks for itself time and again. rest assured most of us here treat the issue not with old-style chemotherapy that kills the good as well as the bad cancer cells, but selective criticisms that weed and highlight the bad guys from the good ones.
cheers!

^^^^^^^^ hey Bro. eonynx..... Sakto ka da.. nag kadto ko didto...... baw grabe waswasanay to ah... wala ko ya mag intra... bal-an mo ang naga pangnuya nga na... insecure lang...... wala pa di sya guro ka kadto sa lilo para mag hambal sya sang amu sina..... hehehe.. pabay-eh lang ah...... ...:)

princejuan
April 28th, 2011, 09:04 AM
grabi gid na ang issue about sa tabok ta noh? wla gid gakamatay.ga multo multo every now and then....amo gid man na ang culture nila amo na kung pwedi pasensyahan ta nalang ina.intindihon ta nalang ah.i spent my college life there and work there for couple of years..i mingle with them...some have been closed to my heart pero amo gid na kultura nila perti ka T_ _ A _ _ N.expression bala na " kaon pa kamo damo, indi kamo huya huya kadamo pa kan-on didto sa kaldero ah " dukot nalang gali bilin.hayzzz..amo na bisan balik balik lang ang gina present na tourist attraction & projects tagalumapaw gihapon ang sugid kay man amo na gid na ang kultura mo.pero tani kita diri kag ang taga tabok amo na ang mag suportahanay kay man kung binagbinagon daw sugpon lang ni aton mga pusod mo.we should be proud of each others success.galing kay ambot lang.......hahahayzzzz....

april@aries
April 28th, 2011, 09:10 AM
is it just me or ka hinay sang April? hehe gadali man ko ma tapos and maka tapak sa May na, big things ahead!! :banana::banana:

haha...pareho ta...ngaa kahinay sang April man...? May oh May...:cheers:


its because ari lang ko di.. waay ko gadalagan... kalakat lang...amu kahinay:lol::lol::lol:

Pao_hotiee_20
April 28th, 2011, 09:16 AM
IF the Railway will be completed.... Roxas might have direct flights from taiwan and korea.. soon, roxas city airport will become roxas city international airport making panay island as the tourism capital of the world? naks.


^^^^ Yeah I hope so... but first roxas city.. should first take into consideration that operations of a flight be it local or international is always depended on the passenger demand of the location or route .....to create such passenger demand roxas city shall attract investors to stimulate it's local economy....... i know roxas city is still classified as a component city... of the province of capiz..... I think the first step for roxas city to become a Highly Urbanized City Like Iloilo and Bacolod is as what i have said before, attract investors to stimulate it's local economy.:)

wiljamesc1979
April 28th, 2011, 09:20 AM
grabi gid na ang issue about sa tabok ta noh? wla gid gakamatay.ga multo multo every now and then....amo gid man na ang culture nila amo na kung pwedi pasensyahan ta nalang ina.intindihon ta nalang ah.i spent my college life there and work there for couple of years..i mingle with them...some have been closed to my heart pero amo gid na kultura nila perti ka T_ _ A _ _ N.expression bala na " kaon pa kamo damo, indi kamo huya huya kadamo pa kan-on didto sa kaldero ah " dukot nalang gali bilin.hayzzz..amo na bisan balik balik lang ang gina present na tourist attraction & projects tagalumapaw gihapon ang sugid kay man amo na gid na ang kultura mo.pero tani kita diri kag ang taga tabok amo na ang mag suportahanay kay man kung binagbinagon daw sugpon lang ni aton mga pusod mo.we should be proud of each others success.galing kay ambot lang.......hahahayzzzz....

Ang himuon ta na lang sa sini nga bagay nga indi na magbasa sa thread nila didto... What we would expect are all negatives comments about our beloved city... Kung amo na gid na batasan mo budlay na na islan... Just stick with our present development here... In the end, wala naman makapugung sa pag uswag sa Iloilo... Diin bala makadto ang mga investors para mag invest... Of course, sa area with stable electricity, kag sa regional capital... Let's just wait na magsugud na ang Panay railway kag other big projects, sa sini malayo na gid ang distinction...

Pao_hotiee_20
April 28th, 2011, 09:24 AM
grabi gid na ang issue about sa tabok ta noh? wla gid gakamatay.ga multo multo every now and then....amo gid man na ang culture nila amo na kung pwedi pasensyahan ta nalang ina.intindihon ta nalang ah.i spent my college life there and work there for couple of years..i mingle with them...some have been closed to my heart pero amo gid na kultura nila perti ka T_ _ A _ _ N.expression bala na " kaon pa kamo damo, indi kamo huya huya kadamo pa kan-on didto sa kaldero ah " dukot nalang gali bilin.hayzzz..amo na bisan balik balik lang ang gina present na tourist attraction & projects tagalumapaw gihapon ang sugid kay man amo na gid na ang kultura mo.pero tani kita diri kag ang taga tabok amo na ang mag suportahanay kay man kung binagbinagon daw sugpon lang ni aton mga pusod mo.we should be proud of each others success.galing kay ambot lang.......hahahayzzzz....

^^^^ Hey princejuan.... bay-ini lang...... Ako sa Imo pag nakita mo tirada nila sa Lilo Simle Ka nalang Ti-mayami.......:)

Ang Naga tira sa lilo to.. nga bloger.. newbiee sya.. ti mainit pa na dugo nya.... hehehehe..... Understand mo nalang.....:lol::lol::lol:

anthraxx
April 28th, 2011, 09:27 AM
grabi gid na ang issue about sa tabok ta noh? wla gid gakamatay.ga multo multo every now and then....amo gid man na ang culture nila amo na kung pwedi pasensyahan ta nalang ina.intindihon ta nalang ah.i spent my college life there and work there for couple of years..i mingle with them...some have been closed to my heart pero amo gid na kultura nila perti ka T_ _ A _ _ N.expression bala na " kaon pa kamo damo, indi kamo huya huya kadamo pa kan-on didto sa kaldero ah " dukot nalang gali bilin.hayzzz..amo na bisan balik balik lang ang gina present na tourist attraction & projects tagalumapaw gihapon ang sugid kay man amo na gid na ang kultura mo.pero tani kita diri kag ang taga tabok amo na ang mag suportahanay kay man kung binagbinagon daw sugpon lang ni aton mga pusod mo.we should be proud of each others success.galing kay ambot lang.......hahahayzzzz....

took a peak there, grabe ang flaming, bating and bangayay didto...sad really....:ohno::ohno::ohno:

spacewagon0001
April 28th, 2011, 09:36 AM
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/39051_140852295946186_100000642486492_264759_4654858_n.jpg

PASEO DE ILOILO

like this pic -- ano na ang mga restos diri sa Paseo subong?

irong206
April 28th, 2011, 09:38 AM
san-o ayhan suguran ang Iloilo esplanade man?i am just imagining how it will be beautiful kon matapos na ini .another thing of beauty sa syudad ta besides being a tourism potentials. .baw kon matabo gwapa gwapa nagid ang iloilo river .

princejuan
April 28th, 2011, 09:38 AM
"dies dies" laughing nalang ta ah...back to our topic.we have a lot of things to tackle here in regards to our very own Iloilo. mangkot lang ko gani guys..ano update sa recall campaign againts mayor JPM? budlay gani kung damo ka project kay damo gusto mag guba sa imo ngalan.

spacewagon0001
April 28th, 2011, 09:38 AM
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/38807_141152489249500_100000642486492_266498_1381221_n.jpg

FORT SAN PEDRO

really needs to be rehabilitated ASAP !! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Trigonometry101
April 28th, 2011, 09:40 AM
grabi gid na ang issue about sa tabok ta noh? wla gid gakamatay.ga multo multo every now and then....amo gid man na ang culture nila amo na kung pwedi pasensyahan ta nalang ina.intindihon ta nalang ah.i spent my college life there and work there for couple of years..i mingle with them...some have been closed to my heart pero amo gid na kultura nila perti ka T_ _ A _ _ N.expression bala na " kaon pa kamo damo, indi kamo huya huya kadamo pa kan-on didto sa kaldero ah " dukot nalang gali bilin.hayzzz..amo na bisan balik balik lang ang gina present na tourist attraction & projects tagalumapaw gihapon ang sugid kay man amo na gid na ang kultura mo.pero tani kita diri kag ang taga tabok amo na ang mag suportahanay kay man kung binagbinagon daw sugpon lang ni aton mga pusod mo.we should be proud of each others success.galing kay ambot lang.......hahahayzzzz....

Well after reading mga posts nila to nag conclude na ako kon ngaa diri sila ga kadto magiskwela kag mga wala ka pasar di example sa SpUI wala kapasar sa west negros ga saylo. Bisan katapos na, ang ila nga batasan daw iya man gihapon sang amo kag ido. Waswas lang hambal sang wala polos kag tinikal. Amo gid na ya basta nahisa. Manuya nalang :lol::lol:

spacewagon0001
April 28th, 2011, 09:41 AM
san-o ayhan suguran ang Iloilo esplanade man?i am just imagining how it will be beautiful kon matapos na ini .another thing of beauty sa syudad ta besides being a tourism potentials. .baw kon matabo gwapa gwapa nagid ang iloilo river .

same here .. so looking forward for ESPLANADE. i hope we can have a glimpse of the project looks like.

irong206
April 28th, 2011, 09:41 AM
like this pic -- ano na ang mga restos diri sa Paseo subong?

kon indi ako magsala ara da ang first branch sang mooon cafe mo tapos nag branch out sila sa south point sm kay damo gid costumer.

Pao_hotiee_20
April 28th, 2011, 09:44 AM
really needs to be rehabilitated ASAP !! :lol::lol::lol::lol:


^^^^^^ Hey Space.... I hope that the planned jetty port will be verry good looking gid.... BTW any news sa lobok port expansion....... kag sa guimbal port project...?:)

spacewagon0001
April 28th, 2011, 09:48 AM
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/38909_141364232561659_100000642486492_268228_1858351_n.jpg

CENTRAL PHILIPPINE UNIVERSITY

my ALMA MATER ... Central, My Central

ano ayhan nga mga physical development ang iga-put up ni Pres Robles?

irong206
April 28th, 2011, 09:49 AM
same here .. so looking forward for ESPLANADE. i hope we can have a glimpse of the project looks like.

in my opinion is one of the best asset of the city ang iloilo river to be as one of the most beautiful city in the country.:)

Pao_hotiee_20
April 28th, 2011, 09:52 AM
Well after reading mga posts nila to nag conclude na ako kon ngaa diri sila ga kadto magiskwela kag mga wala ka pasar di example sa SpUI wala kapasar sa west negros ga saylo. Bisan katapos na, ang ila nga batasan daw iya man gihapon sang amo kag ido. Waswas lang hambal sang wala polos kag tinikal. Amo gid na ya basta nahisa. Manuya nalang :lol::lol:


^^^^ Hey Bro. Trigonometry....... Patikala lang na sila ah.... ang importante.... kita ya mag Sulod sa Mall simple lang kag daw sa wala lang mag purma pero kung magguwa na ta sa mall ga biriringkit kita sang mga gin pang shopping ta.... kag ang aton nga pitaka kapalkapal..... kumparar mo naman sa ila..... kung mag sulod sa mall abi mo sin-o gid nga mangaranun.... kay gali mapaaircon lang ah......

well as what they are saying reality bites...... well this is reality......... end of story.......:)

ronie
April 28th, 2011, 09:57 AM
the front of our office. :-)

april@aries
April 28th, 2011, 10:07 AM
grabi gid na ang issue about sa tabok ta noh? wla gid gakamatay.ga multo multo every now and then....amo gid man na ang culture nila amo na kung pwedi pasensyahan ta nalang ina.intindihon ta nalang ah.i spent my college life there and work there for couple of years..i mingle with them...some have been closed to my heart pero amo gid na kultura nila perti ka T_ _ A _ _ N.expression bala na " kaon pa kamo damo, indi kamo huya huya kadamo pa kan-on didto sa kaldero ah " dukot nalang gali bilin.hayzzz..amo na bisan balik balik lang ang gina present na tourist attraction & projects tagalumapaw gihapon ang sugid kay man amo na gid na ang kultura mo.pero tani kita diri kag ang taga tabok amo na ang mag suportahanay kay man kung binagbinagon daw sugpon lang ni aton mga pusod mo.we should be proud of each others success.galing kay ambot lang.......hahahayzzzz....

Ang himuon ta na lang sa sini nga bagay nga indi na magbasa sa thread nila didto... What we would expect are all negatives comments about our beloved city... Kung amo na gid na batasan mo budlay na na islan... Just stick with our present development here... In the end, wala naman makapugung sa pag uswag sa Iloilo... Diin bala makadto ang mga investors para mag invest... Of course, sa area with stable electricity, kag sa regional capital... Let's just wait na magsugud na ang Panay railway kag other big projects, sa sini malayo na gid ang distinction...

^^^^ Hey princejuan.... bay-ini lang...... Ako sa Imo pag nakita mo tirada nila sa Lilo Simle Ka nalang Ti-mayami.......:)

Ang Naga tira sa lilo to.. nga bloger.. newbiee sya.. ti mainit pa na dugo nya.... hehehehe..... Understand mo nalang.....:lol::lol::lol:

Well after reading mga posts nila to nag conclude na ako kon ngaa diri sila ga kadto magiskwela kag mga wala ka pasar di example sa SpUI wala kapasar sa west negros ga saylo. Bisan katapos na, ang ila nga batasan daw iya man gihapon sang amo kag ido. Waswas lang hambal sang wala polos kag tinikal. Amo gid na ya basta nahisa. Manuya nalang :lol::lol:

^^^^ Hey Bro. Trigonometry....... Patikala lang na sila ah.... ang importante.... kita ya mag Sulod sa Mall simple lang kag daw sa wala lang mag purma pero kung magguwa na ta sa mall ga biriringkit kita sang mga gin pang shopping ta.... kag ang aton nga pitaka kapalkapal..... kumparar mo naman sa ila..... kung mag sulod sa mall abi mo sin-o gid nga mangaranun.... kay gali mapaaircon lang ah......

well as what they are saying reality bites...... well this is reality......... end of story.......:)


Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

AMU RA INI ANG MAIKAHAMABL KO..... Let them choose diin sanda sa above mentioned nga mga TYPE SANG TAWO for us long as we know kun ano kita... indi don damu nga storya...... kay kun ang AYAM KILALA KAW INDI NA MAG SIGE BARK....:nuts::nuts::nuts:

princejuan
April 28th, 2011, 10:08 AM
to all SSC iloilo members : pasensya na sa tanan sa gin post ko na comment about sa taga tabok.i know it's not healthy to post unpleasant comments againts anybody or anybody's culture and place.medyo nadulas lang ah.balik na ta sa topic ta diri.

Pao_hotiee_20
April 28th, 2011, 10:11 AM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

AMU RA INI ANG MAIKAHAMABL KO..... Let them choose diin sanda sa above mentioned nga mga TYPE SANG TAWO for us long as we know kun ano kita... indi don damu nga storya...... kay kun ang AYAM KILALA KAW INDI NA MAG SIGE BARK....:nuts::nuts::nuts:


^^^^^^Sakto Gid na Miga april@aries.... Amu na gani.. enough na ako ya... hehehe...............:)

BTW May news ka regarding Lubok port planned expansion... kag regarding sa guimbal port.. musta na ato....?

april@aries
April 28th, 2011, 10:16 AM
^^^^^^Sakto Gid na Miga april@aries.... Amu na gani.. enough na ako ya... hehehe...............:)

BTW May news ka regarding Lubok port planned expansion... kag regarding sa guimbal port.. musta na ato....?

waay pa man so far....

Pao_hotiee_20
April 28th, 2011, 10:17 AM
waay pa man so far....

^^^^^^ Ti regarding ang port sa dumangas ya.... musta na ato....?

april@aries
April 28th, 2011, 10:30 AM
^^^^^^ Ti regarding ang port sa dumangas ya.... musta na ato....?

i wish i can answer you directly but sad to say im not so sure:lol:

nguwerng
April 28th, 2011, 10:32 AM
san-o ayhan suguran ang Iloilo esplanade man?i am just imagining how it will be beautiful kon matapos na ini .another thing of beauty sa syudad ta besides being a tourism potentials. .baw kon matabo gwapa gwapa nagid ang iloilo river .


Wala pa gd ya sang render and Iloilo River Esplanade Project?
Excited na ko....:banana::banana:

tinz
April 28th, 2011, 10:35 AM
Wala pa gd ya sang render and Iloilo River Esplanade Project?
Excited na ko....:banana::banana:

daw may ara na bala. wala pa galing sang may naka post diri. looking forward for the latest photos. :) sa pag padayon...:banana:

JollyGypsy
April 28th, 2011, 10:35 AM
in my opinion is one of the best asset of the city ang iloilo river to be as one of the most beautiful city in the country.:)

...and Fort San Pedro area kon marehabilitate. Fort San Pedro will look like Roxas Boulevard kon ma-develop na dira! Ang mga illegal settlers dila dapat kinahanglan hatagan sang ciudad sang ila nga relocation site para man nga ma-develop ina dira, ASAP! Ortiz and Veteran's Village amo ang mga lugar nga kon sa di-in ocupado sang mga eskuaters dira. Dapat may relocation site na inang duha para man masugudan ang pag-develop sina dira.:)

4threich
April 28th, 2011, 10:42 AM
...and Fort San Pedro area kon marehabilitate. Fort San Pedro will look like Roxas Boulevard kon ma-develop na dira! Ang mga illegal settlers dila dapat kinahanglan hatagan sang ciudad sang ila nga relocation site para man nga ma-develop ina dira, ASAP! Ortiz and Veteran's Village amo ang mga lugar nga kon sa di-in ocupado sang mga eskuaters dira. Dapat may relocation site na inang duha para man masugudan ang pag-develop sina dira.:)

Ipaalington ta ina kay ynion, daw gapahamot man siya sa taho..kon matinloan ya na da sang iskwater halin sa Zamora pakadto Fort, kon mapadalagan siya mayor botohon ko gid siya katatlo...

true blue ilonggo
April 28th, 2011, 10:50 AM
maayong adlaw kag mainit init nga klima sa Iloilo.kadasig gid sang thread.damo gid man balantayan nga mga development sa Iloilo.watch kag lurking mode lang ako anay samtang nagahulat hulat sang mga explosive news halin sa aton a.i just finished back reading sang thread kag based sa present pictures of our city she's getting a lot prettier each day.katinlo gid kag damo improvent.ba if i will compare the pictures of the city 5 years ago than today the cleanliness and beuatification is well applauded.i bet to say kon may most clean and green city contest subong our city is on the top.although damo mga spaghetti wires sa my clle real nga naga palaw-ay at least indi man lang ta may amo pero ang talalupangdon amo ang pag pagkaorganisado sang traffic sa may iznart-delgado,valeria Gen. luna sts.,jm basa kag ginaimplementar gid ang anti jaywalking kag at least masling ko nga ang mga overpass may mga serbisyo na gid man nga matood tood sa mga tawo kag in fairness beautifully painted kag ang motto daw makahatag gid bugal sa tagsa tagsa ka mga Ilonggo.just my personal observation and opinion lang a.siguro ang aton mga iloilo base forumer makapamatoud gid sini

hehehe. hulat ka lang pre... pag mag groundbreaking na ang megaworld, ma sibad pa guid na ang thread ta. :cheers::cheers::cheers:

grabi gid na ang issue about sa tabok ta noh? wla gid gakamatay.ga multo multo every now and then....amo gid man na ang culture nila amo na kung pwedi pasensyahan ta nalang ina.intindihon ta nalang ah.i spent my college life there and work there for couple of years..i mingle with them...some have been closed to my heart pero amo gid na kultura nila perti ka T_ _ A _ _ N.expression bala na " kaon pa kamo damo, indi kamo huya huya kadamo pa kan-on didto sa kaldero ah " dukot nalang gali bilin.hayzzz..amo na bisan balik balik lang ang gina present na tourist attraction & projects tagalumapaw gihapon ang sugid kay man amo na gid na ang kultura mo.pero tani kita diri kag ang taga tabok amo na ang mag suportahanay kay man kung binagbinagon daw sugpon lang ni aton mga pusod mo.we should be proud of each others success.galing kay ambot lang.......hahahayzzzz....

Well after reading mga posts nila to nag conclude na ako kon ngaa diri sila ga kadto magiskwela kag mga wala ka pasar di example sa SpUI wala kapasar sa west negros ga saylo. Bisan katapos na, ang ila nga batasan daw iya man gihapon sang amo kag ido. Waswas lang hambal sang wala polos kag tinikal. Amo gid na ya basta nahisa. Manuya nalang :lol::lol:

wala man na problema nga tikalan nila ang iban nga mga probinsya kag syudad ah? ang problema, kay ila pa ya tikalan ang mga taga iloilo. nga kung tan-awon mo, sang uma pa lang na ya ang negros sang una, kag mga katutubo pa lang na ya sila, ang mga taga iloilo ya, mga hacienderos na kag naga tour na sa europe. ano ambi puro kutso-kutso ang opisyo nila, biskan gamay nga history wala guid sang may nalung-ungan. hehehe. :laugh: :hilarious: :lol:

^^amo gid man na ya basta mga tisoyon.. gakasal-an nga taga manila :lol::lol::lol:

sa amon di ya, kada may mangayo nga paryente inugplete papuli sa negros or abuloy sa ila namatyan or gusto mangutang ginagaan namon, no questions asked but we are very much aware sg ginapanghambal nila against sa amon behind our backs so ila na ina ya galing karga de kunsensya, not ours. ara na gid na ya sa ila kultura ang pagkamahisa-on so intiendiha na lang.

sus si oboi pa... tisoy guid na ya. halo daan sang chinese kag kastila? mayo lang gani guina sabat sya sang tagalog... problema kung guina sabat sya sang spanish or chinese. :lol::lol::lol:

more appropriate would be

we are dogs
and they are cats

we say AWO! AWO! AWO! go bordz!
they say meow, meow,meow...

:nuts:

:hilarious: :laugh:

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/35970_140885202609562_100000642486492_264915_1424537_n.jpg

PARA MAIBA NAMAN... TUBA NAMAN IMNON TA SA ATON PAGKILIT-ANAY PARA MAS SADYA PA GID... HAHAHA

baw... kanamit mag inum inum tuba, sabay internet kag mag log in sa ssc ba. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

hehehe, basi ang mga parts pa sang train bala GLOCK ang tatak, ok guid...

hahaha! :lol: ako ya pre, biskan JERICHO na lang ah... :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Damo ko paryente sa Bacolod which is why I just ignore the insinuations here. It's purely blabber coming from the other side.

I'm just wondering though ngaa kon kaisa some of the people I meet there answer back to me in Tagalog when I'm talking to them in Hiligaynon. :D

basi feeling nila pre, ara sila sa tagalog region pre? hahaha. :lol: :hilarious:

Amu na lang masiling ko, "We're like Brits and Yankees, North and South Koreans." :nocrook:

or the brits and the irishmen... :)

spacewagon0001
April 28th, 2011, 10:54 AM
Wala pa gd ya sang render and Iloilo River Esplanade Project?
Excited na ko....:banana::banana:
same here :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: San-o ayhan nila ipaguwa ang plano?

spacewagon0001
April 28th, 2011, 10:56 AM
...and Fort San Pedro area kon marehabilitate. Fort San Pedro will look like Roxas Boulevard kon ma-develop na dira! Ang mga illegal settlers dila dapat kinahanglan hatagan sang ciudad sang ila nga relocation site para man nga ma-develop ina dira, ASAP! Ortiz and Veteran's Village amo ang mga lugar nga kon sa di-in ocupado sang mga eskuaters dira. Dapat may relocation site na inang duha para man masugudan ang pag-develop sina dira.:)
:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:
would loved to see Fort San Pedro coast lined with restos, hotels, etc

xytherion
April 28th, 2011, 11:08 AM
:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:
would loved to see Fort San Pedro coast lined with restos, hotels, etc

AGREE! :banana:

bulabog jalaur
April 28th, 2011, 11:30 AM
SINADYA SA SUBA

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jBnCfWiKoFs/Ta27j-UpS-I/AAAAAAAAABo/6jDpYbLTfQM/s320/185772_165403333512380_144560688929978_364107_2964396_n.jpg


ILOILO CITY, April 19 (PNA) – The city government here, in partnership with the Bantay Suba, an organization that works on the rehabilitation and protection of the Iloilo River, are preparing to launch the first festival by the river initially slated May 20-21.

Dubbed as "Sinadya sa Suba," the activity has three major components - the cleanup of the Iloilo River, first inland angling competition and the "Konsyerto sa Suba" or the Music Festival by the River.

The activity initially aimed to raise funds for the Bantay Suba likewise to raise public awareness and participation in the protection of the Iloilo River.

Funds generated will be used to construct pumpboats that the organization will be utilized in its river rehabilitation and protection campaign.

Also being proposed to add color to the event is the food festival by the river in partnership with the Iloilo Hotels, Restaurants and Resorts Association (IHRRA).

A group of local artists is also planning to float lanterns at the Iloilo River in honor of former Constitutional Commission delegate Ephrain Trenas.

The city government is now working on the rehabilitation of the Iloilo River. Its projects recently won a gold award from the International Awards for Liveable Communities 2010 (LivCom).


Source (http://allaboutiloilophilippines.blogspot.com/2011/04/iloilo-city-govt-initiates-sinadya-sa.html)



Bag-o na naman ni nga festival sa iloilo?:):cheers::banana:

IMPRESARIO
April 28th, 2011, 11:32 AM
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/40488_141368469227902_100000642486492_268286_2461001_n.jpg

^^dapat mag transfer na ining PRC to a much bigger and better place to better serve the populace, same goes with LTO,NSO and NBI.

tani tingubon na lang sila sa isa ka dako nga building with ample parking, ano say mo mayor Jed?

nguwerng
April 28th, 2011, 11:36 AM
...and Fort San Pedro area kon marehabilitate. Fort San Pedro will look like Roxas Boulevard kon ma-develop na dira! Ang mga illegal settlers dila dapat kinahanglan hatagan sang ciudad sang ila nga relocation site para man nga ma-develop ina dira, ASAP! Ortiz and Veteran's Village amo ang mga lugar nga kon sa di-in ocupado sang mga eskuaters dira. Dapat may relocation site na inang duha para man masugudan ang pag-develop sina dira.:)

Share ko lang...
lupad sang paminsaron ah...hehehe :banana::banana:

Idea lang ni nga himo himo ko sa isip ko:

Fort San Pedro Area:
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr190/cpparreno/trippinglang.jpg


pwede man ni nga extend asta gid sa fishing port ang land reclaimation kag ang boulevard...

:banana::banana::banana:

4threich
April 28th, 2011, 12:01 PM
mang garitgarit grabe, kon patulan gani, indi man kaisrot...lol
gin try ta nga mangin mayu kag magsuggest sa iban to focus, I do my part I expect others to do too.

Tao lang po senor, Ipakigbato ang dapat ipagkigbato.
cant help myself but piss on your piss because some shithead threw stones to someone esp. Hawili who doesn't talk much except flood us with pictures of Iloilo's everyday life..
heck i won't even bother back kon ako man lang atakehon niyo.
peace and get laid baby...!! LMAO

ronie
April 28th, 2011, 12:04 PM
Fort San Pedro Area:
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr190/cpparreno/trippinglang.jpg

very nice guid if they can clear fort san pedro of illegal structures. the L shape building with the blue roofing is our office. :-)

itlogo
April 28th, 2011, 12:11 PM
^^^^ Hey princejuan.... bay-ini lang...... Ako sa Imo pag nakita mo tirada nila sa Lilo Simle Ka nalang Ti-mayami.......:)

Ang Naga tira sa lilo to.. nga bloger.. newbiee sya.. ti mainit pa na dugo nya.... hehehehe..... Understand mo nalang.....:lol::lol::lol:

daw aswang gali nga bag-ong yanggaw pre eh no? hehehe

kasan-o ka nag graduate sa john b meg? kay didto man ko nag graduate... sa college nga indi sikat sa USA ahh. sa mga ship owners lang...

itlogo
April 28th, 2011, 12:19 PM
^^^^^^ Hey Space.... I hope that the planned jetty port will be verry good looking gid.... BTW any news sa lobok port expansion....... kag sa guimbal port project...?:)

ang guimbal pre, daw tapos naman to. last holyweek nag puli ko to. indi man guid tama ka daku ah, but i heard sa mga naga pamunit didto, nga ma locate kuno didto ang PAG-ASA, kag nag survey daw didto ang isa ka bag-o lang nag daku nga gas supplier, daw seaoil bala o total.

ma butang daw sila depot nila didto, daku bal-an ang na reclaim nga lupa pag himo sang dike. tapos ang punta sang dike, ginhimo port. so maybe amo to ang consideration nga gin survey para himuon petroleum depot.

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 12:21 PM
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/38905_140630422635040_100000642486492_263732_7572251_n.jpg

JD BAKESHOP - GEN. LUNA ST. BRANCH

itlogo
April 28th, 2011, 12:24 PM
^^^^^^ Ti regarding ang port sa dumangas ya.... musta na ato....?

ang port sang dumangas meg, mahambal ko nga isa na sa strategic port sang lilo, kay tama guid na ka saku, even sang holy week, damo ko kasakay sa roro nga mga cebuano ma pa bora. ang iban ga commute lang, ang iban may salakyan dala. wala gani ko kasal-ot sa 4:30am trip halin sa tabok pa lilo kay tama guid ka buta ang roro... take note, motor lang na akon dala.:nuts::nuts::nuts:


hay, tani may directa guimbal na nga roro kay tapos na ang port. para pag naug ko, 3km nalang balay ko na. hehehe........

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 12:26 PM
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/39160_140625005968915_100000642486492_263718_3105158_n.jpg

JARO BELFRY

4threich
April 28th, 2011, 12:27 PM
Fort San Pedro Area:
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr190/cpparreno/trippinglang.jpg

very nice guid if they can clear fort san pedro of illegal structures. the L shape building with the blue roofing is our office. :-)

^^^ taga NEDA ka?

IMPRESARIO
April 28th, 2011, 12:32 PM
No more imported rice for W. Visayas - NFA
Thursday, 28 April 2011 00:47 iloilonewstoday.com

The National Food Authority (NFA) 6 will no longer accept imported rice this year even as it is already planning to dispose its more or less 10,000 metric tons or 200,000 bags of buffer stocks that arrived in Western Visayas in 2010.

NFA 6 Regional Director Tomas Escarez said he has informed Agriculture Secretary Proceso Alcala during the DA chief’s recent visit in Iloilo that the region has enough local rice to be milled and distributed to consumers.

He explained the NFA is mandated to have food security stock good for not less than 30 days at the end of June 30 and the existing buffer stock is actually good only for 25 days.

Nonetheless, Escarez said the buffer stock mostly imported from Vietnam, although more than a year old, is still “very fit for human consumption” which he credited to the efficient storage management of the NFA.

He admitted though that the disposal of rice stocks in May and June maybe slow because the next two months are not lean period yet.

One option they are considering, he said, is sale through market determined price (SMDP) but they don’t want to explore it yet present because they “don’t want to dampen prices” in the market.

Agriculture Regional Executive Director Larry Nacionales said the instruction of Alcala to start the unloading of the stocks the soonest time possible is in preparation for the next procurement season.

Nacionales said the region has higher production in this year’s dry season compared to last year’s.

This year the NFA will expand its local procurement to include rice with moisture content of up to 18 to 20 and not just 40, he added.

“Western Visayas is a rice-sufficient region,” he said, adding that the disposal of rice stocks could also cover the rice deficit in other regions.

NFA 6 has among the biggest and best warehouses in the country situated in the cities of Iloilo and Bacolod.

These warehouses host rice stocks not only for Western Visayas but also for Mindanao and Eastern Visayas, Nacionales said.*PNA


Read more about Iloilo by iloilonewstoday.com

itlogo
April 28th, 2011, 12:35 PM
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/38905_140630422635040_100000642486492_263732_7572251_n.jpg

JD BAKESHOP - GEN. LUNA ST. BRANCH

halapitan ko guid ni kung mag puli ko, damo daan ga bilin sang ila, monggo ensaymada kag egg cracker kag ang daw buku nga square na bala, hehehe, lipat ko ngalan ya...

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 12:42 PM
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/39876_140624395968976_100000642486492_263716_6876002_n.jpg

JARO CATHEDRAL

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 12:44 PM
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/39752_140435072654575_100000642486492_262796_3242189_n.jpg

JARO PLAZA

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 12:50 PM
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/39758_140431672654915_100000642486492_262794_4047280_n.jpg

anthraxx
April 28th, 2011, 12:53 PM
Hawili who doesn't talk much except flood us with pictures of Iloilo's everyday life..

i admire HH for this and his shots are top notch as well. It helps a lot of Iloilo City forumers reminisce the city even from afar. :applause:

nguwerng
April 28th, 2011, 12:56 PM
Fort San Pedro Area:
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr190/cpparreno/trippinglang.jpg

very nice guid if they can clear fort san pedro of illegal structures. the L shape building with the blue roofing is our office. :-)

Kinanlan may reloc anay ang mga naga istar sa illegal structures...luoy man sila kung madulaan istaran

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 01:12 PM
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/59117_148674515163964_100000642486492_307067_2115732_n.jpg

Gcorneja
April 28th, 2011, 02:07 PM
^^ I toured a friend from SSC Manila last Saturday. Kibot ko sang nakita ko nga may port naman gali sa Guimbal. May mga crane man didto.

Ang Bearland Resort sa Tigbauan owned by a German is still not open for public. Only few individuals are allowed to enter the vicinity of the resort. Ilicenxa pa xa danay sa owner. The whole resort is equipped with CCTVs. Live streaming siya sa Germany. Overnight sa isa ka suite P6,000.

ken_7
April 28th, 2011, 02:13 PM
Ang ulugtasan nga PRC...:nuts:...nami mamuyayaw da mu...:lol:...sano pa ni makayo mga regional offices man? waay gid sila mas dako nga building to cater the whole of Region 6...?...to think professionals gina serve nila pero daw ginamos kamu da ya mag process...hay...:ohno:

ginpamangkot koni last week pagpamasyar ko da sa babaw.. Suno kay baldago "hindi ka asi2x saylo or pakayo sang PRC VI kay daw haluson tanan nga budget ara lang sa luzon, kung kami mag request damu na rekubikos kag haluson nana ma grant ang budget" :bash:

nguwerng
April 28th, 2011, 02:24 PM
ginpamangkot koni last week pagpamasyar ko da sa babaw.. Suno kay baldago "hindi ka asi2x saylo or pakayo sang PRC VI kay daw haluson tanan nga budget ara lang sa luzon, kung kami mag request damu na rekubikos kag haluson nana ma grant ang budget" :bash:

tsk tsk....dba bal daw ga arkila lang da sila sa building nila sbng?

METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 02:26 PM
Thanks to @metro @space @ken @angelkirk for the PMs.


Regarding sa SM, i had a talk with angela and they say Southpoint isn't cutting it and they need a bigger space for expansions. And she said they are looking into creating more al fresco experiences for Ilonggos.

And an SSI company wants 3 spaces in SM Iloilo kaso its full na. And as of now, wala pa sang ma back out nga store so I don't know whats the deal with that.

^^
SSI? Could you tell me more about it? What about?
Shoot me a PM if you would like. :)

I smell something "old" "frail" and "royal" pushing the rear of this big fatso.
I miss the days when PN actually bashes a "king"..

UAP Hamili, I pity the organization...ginagamit na sa politika.
Si Arch. bi nagpadalagan konsehal kag pirmi pierdi bi moh.. tsk tsk tsk..

Sen. Frank dies dies laughing



-Seasoned Architect always advises their clients one thing, if you want the best design you have to pay extra coz it wont come cheap..
may mga arkitekto ga ma advise sa imo bakal ka sang tiles 0.60x0.60 made in China, tag 135 isa. may arkitekto nga maadvise sa imo nga bakal ka sa tig 300. sa diin ka? ako pilion ko ang 300 pesos, kay ang 135 pesos ang isa ka box labanlaban may bingkong gid na. indi pa pareho ang sizes.

dri lang dapat ang balantayan dira
kon ang gindeliver sa site ang 135 peso nga tiles kag nakabutang sa resibo 300 peso nga tiles. kag ginbaton ni Engr. kag nagpabulagbulag si Arch.

these past few posts of LAPSUS is a chess game, first comparing a condotel to a government center, an orange and an apple..
daw telenovela lang..ari na kita sa tunga tunga sang storya..
i won't succeed.

^^
Agree on the last line.
DF of PN & Ynion will not succeed. :)
Kapaslawan gahulat sa ila.

^^^
I have a confession to make..indi ko tani pag gub on ang poll kay too early pa, sorry guys...lol
why i vote Austria

http://www.neda.gov.ph/odamon/ProjectProfile.asp?ProjectId=1759
PROJECT PROFILE
Title : Panay Railways in Visayas
Implementing Agency : DOTC
Funding Source : Austria - Soft Loan Facility
Sector/Subsector : INFRA/Transportation
Region/Location : 06 - Western Visayas
Sub-Regions : Panay Island

^^
Aww! There you go. :D
If its Austria, rest assured the quality is of high standard. :okay:

I knew sooner or later you will post this. :okay:
Anyway the main purpose of the POLL is to get the pulse of the people here in SSC ILOILO. That is why, 'If you can have it your way' ;)

So for those who haven't voted yet, they can still cast their votes. :D

its their job pre..mandated sila by law, kon wala NEDA approval nungka maghulag ang mga major impact nga project.

http://www.neda.gov.ph/about/legal_mandate.htm

^^
I see. TY for this explanation. :)

it will not go away pre... and you're right it will always become a vicious cycle. some people just can't accept the reality and the fact that iloilo is the regional center of western visayas, and tapos ang usapan. hehehe. :lol: :wave: :laugh:

it will end the moment those people from the other side, would stop cursing and wishing for our bloody downfall. the problem is, that downfall will never happen, and so are the curses. hehehe. :cheers:

^^
Hahaha spot on Pre. :okay:
TRUTH hurts! :bash::bash::bash::bash::lol:
Kung si Impresario pa, 'Deal with it!' :lol:

Kag ma-pride guid ya mga taga-SSC Iloilo kag SSC Bacolod mu. No wonder. :colgate:

^^
Huh? You talk as if defending our pride is to be blamed. Look back...
Who started it all? Did we initiate or did they? Which side are fond of biting more than they can chew?

PRIDE? Everybody has one, and if that pride is stepped upon, would you not react? Or dare to even protect it?

They throw crap, we dock, we evade, heck, we sometimes deflect it back to them. When we try to engage them in intellectual discussions, to which requires some large amount of neurons to burn, they would result to personal attacks? Why? Simply because they cannot attack our arguments, so they attack us personally! Ain't that the case? Ask Ken, Kiddo, Samwise, Zynet, Yeinjee, True Blue, Tagoy and Kalilo. (Do I have to include myself? :lol:)

For the longest time that I am here, we minded our own business, the hell I care about them unless of course they tried to intrude our turf to cause havoc or throw insults (Does Dinho, Duke U, Jing, SUV, Jayjay, Juicy etc ring a bell?). Can't they just mind their own? Is their thread that boring enough or lacking intellectual merit that they will make an excuse of thrash talking us, or campaign negatively about our place so that their place would stand out, or downplay our progress and developments intead?

This will only stop if they stop minding our business and start minding their own! Period.

My 0.02.

Kon maayo pa man ang pondasyon okay lang ina. I-restore guid sang maayo ang sulod kag gua sang building. The building is really good for Boutique, Souviner Shop, Beauty Salon for men and women, ala Vanity Fair ang dating.:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

^^
I certainly agree! Very good suggestion Maam! :okay:

batchoy lng ya akon... Deco's or Ted's? :lol:

^^
Nats or Inggos? :D

more appropriate would be

we are dogs
and they are cats

we say AWO! AWO! AWO! go bordz!
they say meow, meow,meow...

:nuts:

^^
:laugh::hahaha::lol::rofl::hilarious

^^^^^^ Bro... Good news na naman.... Ah Ka nami lang basabasahon ah..... BTW, regarding sa redistricting bala......, sa aton ya sa province wala gin na plano ang 5 ka congressmen ta nga ma reapportion or ma redistrict man kita from 5 Legislative Districts into, let say 7 or 8 Legislative Districts... ang population naton I think sa last census 2010 daw lab-ot na bala 2,000,000 plus, I think it is high time nagid nga ma redistrict naman ang province, additional Legislative seats, additional voice to the house of reperesentative, Additional PDAF.......:)

^^
I am not sure if there is. Maybe in the pipeline? :)
Your guess is as good as mine.

habagatcentral1
April 28th, 2011, 02:34 PM
^^
Huh? You talk as if defending our pride is to be blamed. Look back...
Who started it all? Did we initiate or did they? Which side are fond of biting more than they can chew?

PRIDE? Everybody has one, and if that pride is stepped upon, would you not react? Or dare to even protect it?

They throw crap, we dock, we evade, heck, we sometimes deflect it back to them. When we try to engage them in intellectual discussions, to which requires some large amount of neurons to burn, they would result to personal attacks? Why? Simply because they cannot attack our arguments, so they attack us personally! Ain't that the case? Ask Ken, Kiddo, Samwise, Zynet, Yeinjee, True Blue, Tagoy and Kalilo. (Do I have to include myself? :lol:)

For the longest time that I am here, we minded our own business, the hell I care about them unless of course they tried to intrude our turf to cause havoc or throw insults (Does Dinho, Duke U, Jing, SUV, Jayjay, Juicy etc ring a bell?). Can't they just mind their own? Is their thread that boring enough or lacking intellectual merit that they will make an excuse of thrash talking us, or campaign negatively about our place so that their place would stand out, or downplay our progress and developments intead?

This will only stop if they stop minding our business and start minding their own! Period.

My 0.02.

Are we not human to have pride to protect? ;) Of course, it boils down with pride. Simple. Can't explain further. It depends on how you perceive the word.
Basta, its impossible that pride isn't there. That's simple. No need to explain elaborately. :)

Personalan? Hmmm, sorry. Much as I would like not to stoop down to that level. Ako aminado ko nga I sometimes go to that point, especially when having a heated argument--something that I would like to control. Urges are there. To err is to be human. But to be insulted, is something else.

Insakto gali ang siling sa akon ni Citykid a long time ago. Kid, I owe you. :okay:

gustokiddo
April 28th, 2011, 02:37 PM
@Metro

I agree! Before, i admit i get affected kung personal comments na. Subong kadlaw na lang ko, bal an ko wala na siya may masabat.


Speaking of Ynion, do you guys know nga indi na dali dali ma agyan ang Ynion avenue sa puerto real? Residents cannot freely walk on that street anymore. We were jogging at about 5 am and gin harang kami sang guards niya hambal " di lang di sir mag agi, mangakig si boss" tapos gin try man namon mag agi by car basi pwede, still the same, di man pwede.

anthraxx
April 28th, 2011, 02:40 PM
@Metro

I agree! Before, i admit i get affected kung personal comments na. Subong kadlaw na lang ko, bal an ko wala na siya may masabat.


Speaking of Ynion, do you guys know nga indi na dali dali ma agyan ang Ynion avenue sa puerto real? Residents cannot freely walk on that street anymore. We were jogging at about 5 am and gin harang kami sang guards niya hambal " di lang di sir mag agi, mangakig si boss" tapos gin try man namon mag agi by car basi pwede, still the same, di man pwede.


Aba? did he buy the right of way? :nuts: dapat sina sa iya tap-naun na while gamay palang basi sobra pa ina ka poderoso sa former "king" sang Iloilo.

demonoid724
April 28th, 2011, 02:46 PM
^^see.... gaamat-amat na gid unfold tanan nga galibot sa PM right before our very own eyes..... :bash: :bash: :bash:

METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 02:49 PM
maayong adlaw kag mainit init nga klima sa Iloilo.kadasig gid sang thread.damo gid man balantayan nga mga development sa Iloilo.watch kag lurking mode lang ako anay samtang nagahulat hulat sang mga explosive news halin sa aton a.i just finished back reading sang thread kag based sa present pictures of our city she's getting a lot prettier each day.katinlo gid kag damo improvent.ba if i will compare the pictures of the city 5 years ago than today the cleanliness and beuatification is well applauded.i bet to say kon may most clean and green city contest subong our city is on the top.although damo mga spaghetti wires sa my clle real nga naga palaw-ay at least indi man lang ta may amo pero ang talalupangdon amo ang pag pagkaorganisado sang traffic sa may iznart-delgado,valeria Gen. luna sts.,jm basa kag ginaimplementar gid ang anti jaywalking kag at least masling ko nga ang mga overpass may mga serbisyo na gid man nga matood tood sa mga tawo kag in fairness beautifully painted kag ang motto daw makahatag gid bugal sa tagsa tagsa ka mga Ilonggo.just my personal observation and opinion lang a.siguro ang aton mga iloilo base forumer makapamatoud gid sini

^^
Pre, I share you personal observation. Iloilo City improved by leaps and bounds over the last few years. :okay:

Ang himuon ta na lang sa sini nga bagay nga indi na magbasa sa thread nila didto... What we would expect are all negatives comments about our beloved city... Kung amo na gid na batasan mo budlay na na islan... Just stick with our present development here... In the end, wala naman makapugung sa pag uswag sa Iloilo... Diin bala makadto ang mga investors para mag invest... Of course, sa area with stable electricity, kag sa regional capital... Let's just wait na magsugud na ang Panay railway kag other big projects, sa sini malayo na gid ang distinction...

^^
Aw, damo naman na lain boot! Ang kahisa tood no? Diin ka na kita ya nga gamayo kahimtangan sang imo ungod balay, tapos ikaw imo ya, malain imo boot kag suyaan mo pa? :bash::bash::bash:

Kag sang nabahaan imo ingod balay, makalipay ka pa? Duplaan mo pa? Te, ulobrahon lang na ya sang Demonyo!:bash::bash::bash:

Tapos mangabay ka pa ingod blay mo mabahaan, malinogan etc etc? :bash:
Demonyo gid! :bash:

^^^^ Hey Bro. Trigonometry....... Patikala lang na sila ah.... ang importante.... kita ya mag Sulod sa Mall simple lang kag daw sa wala lang mag purma pero kung magguwa na ta sa mall ga biriringkit kita sang mga gin pang shopping ta.... kag ang aton nga pitaka kapalkapal..... kumparar mo naman sa ila..... kung mag sulod sa mall abi mo sin-o gid nga mangaranun.... kay gali mapaaircon lang ah......

well as what they are saying reality bites...... well this is reality......... end of story.......:)

^^
Daw damo gid ko na nakit-an mo... diin to gani man? :D:lol::bash:

Ipaalington ta ina kay ynion, daw gapahamot man siya sa taho..kon matinloan ya na da sang iskwater halin sa Zamora pakadto Fort, kon mapadalagan siya mayor botohon ko gid siya katatlo...

^^
Grabe ba. Ma-flying voter ka gid ya Pre? :lol:
Bilib ko sa iya kung mapahalin ya da mga alipores sang mga Espinosa esp sa Zamora area. Take note, ang last name sang Vice Mayor ta subong. Kung matinloan ya ang bilog nga Fort San Pedro area, time na para ma-resign na ako sa SSC ah. :lol:



wala man na problema nga tikalan nila ang iban nga mga probinsya kag syudad ah? ang problema, kay ila pa ya tikalan ang mga taga iloilo. nga kung tan-awon mo, sang uma pa lang na ya ang negros sang una, kag mga katutubo pa lang na ya sila, ang mga taga iloilo ya, mga hacienderos na kag naga tour na sa europe. ano ambi puro kutso-kutso ang opisyo nila, biskan gamay nga history wala guid sang may nalung-ungan. hehehe. :laugh: :hilarious: :lol:

^^
Pre samtang gatigulang, galanglang! :lol::bash:
Kung diskusyunanay na gani nga mayo, di na kaisrot!
Maan! :lol:

SINADYA SA SUBA

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jBnCfWiKoFs/Ta27j-UpS-I/AAAAAAAAABo/6jDpYbLTfQM/s320/185772_165403333512380_144560688929978_364107_2964396_n.jpg


ILOILO CITY, April 19 (PNA) – The city government here, in partnership with the Bantay Suba, an organization that works on the rehabilitation and protection of the Iloilo River, are preparing to launch the first festival by the river initially slated May 20-21.

Dubbed as "Sinadya sa Suba," the activity has three major components - the cleanup of the Iloilo River, first inland angling competition and the "Konsyerto sa Suba" or the Music Festival by the River.

The activity initially aimed to raise funds for the Bantay Suba likewise to raise public awareness and participation in the protection of the Iloilo River.

Funds generated will be used to construct pumpboats that the organization will be utilized in its river rehabilitation and protection campaign.

Also being proposed to add color to the event is the food festival by the river in partnership with the Iloilo Hotels, Restaurants and Resorts Association (IHRRA).

A group of local artists is also planning to float lanterns at the Iloilo River in honor of former Constitutional Commission delegate Ephrain Trenas.

The city government is now working on the rehabilitation of the Iloilo River. Its projects recently won a gold award from the International Awards for Liveable Communities 2010 (LivCom).


Source (http://allaboutiloilophilippines.blogspot.com/2011/04/iloilo-city-govt-initiates-sinadya-sa.html)


Bag-o na naman ni nga festival sa iloilo?:):cheers::banana:

^^
Daw mayo haw?
Nayka, daw may kulang haw? Wala Bikini Open? :naughty::lol:

Share ko lang...
lupad sang paminsaron ah...hehehe :banana::banana:

Idea lang ni nga himo himo ko sa isip ko:

Fort San Pedro Area:
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr190/cpparreno/trippinglang.jpg


pwede man ni nga extend asta gid sa fishing port ang land reclaimation kag ang boulevard...

:banana::banana::banana:

^^
Very good suggestion Pre. Hopefully matalupangdan ini sang aton LGU.

mang garitgarit grabe, kon patulan gani, indi man kaisrot...lol
gin try ta nga mangin mayu kag magsuggest sa iban to focus, I do my part I expect others to do too.

Tao lang po senor, Ipakigbato ang dapat ipagkigbato.
cant help myself but piss on your piss because some shithead threw stones to someone esp. Hawili who doesn't talk much except flood us with pictures of Iloilo's everyday life..
heck i won't even bother back kon ako man lang atakehon niyo.
peace and get laid baby...!! LMAO

^^
Amo gid Pre!
:laugh::hahaha::lol::rofl::hilarious

ang guimbal pre, daw tapos naman to. last holyweek nag puli ko to. indi man guid tama ka daku ah, but i heard sa mga naga pamunit didto, nga ma locate kuno didto ang PAG-ASA, kag nag survey daw didto ang isa ka bag-o lang nag daku nga gas supplier, daw seaoil bala o total.

ma butang daw sila depot nila didto, daku bal-an ang na reclaim nga lupa pag himo sang dike. tapos ang punta sang dike, ginhimo port. so maybe amo to ang consideration nga gin survey para himuon petroleum depot.

^^
Daw mayo haw?
Kung madayon this is good for Guimbal! Padayon Iloilo. :okay:

ang port sang dumangas meg, mahambal ko nga isa na sa strategic port sang lilo, kay tama guid na ka saku, even sang holy week, damo ko kasakay sa roro nga mga cebuano ma pa bora. ang iban ga commute lang, ang iban may salakyan dala. wala gani ko kasal-ot sa 4:30am trip halin sa tabok pa lilo kay tama guid ka buta ang roro... take note, motor lang na akon dala.:nuts::nuts::nuts:


hay, tani may directa guimbal na nga roro kay tapos na ang port. para pag naug ko, 3km nalang balay ko na. hehehe........

^^
Are there any plans to expand the Dumangas Port?

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 02:50 PM
@Metro

I agree! Before, i admit i get affected kung personal comments na. Subong kadlaw na lang ko, bal an ko wala na siya may masabat.


Speaking of Ynion, do you guys know nga indi na dali dali ma agyan ang Ynion avenue sa puerto real? Residents cannot freely walk on that street anymore. We were jogging at about 5 am and gin harang kami sang guards niya hambal " di lang di sir mag agi, mangakig si boss" tapos gin try man namon mag agi by car basi pwede, still the same, di man pwede.

Not a good indication. . . for a future politician (?)!

detdat
April 28th, 2011, 02:53 PM
^^see.... gaamat-amat na gid unfold tanan nga galibot sa PM right before our very own eyes..... :bash: :bash: :bash:

can somebody share me that PM too?after all the progress in projects both from the private and from government.i also want to have shade of that PM talks circulating here.thanks in advance:cheers:

demonoid724
April 28th, 2011, 02:53 PM
ang port sang dumangas meg, mahambal ko nga isa na sa strategic port sang lilo, kay tama guid na ka saku, even sang holy week, damo ko kasakay sa roro nga mga cebuano ma pa bora. ang iban ga commute lang, ang iban may salakyan dala. wala gani ko kasal-ot sa 4:30am trip halin sa tabok pa lilo kay tama guid ka buta ang roro... take note, motor lang na akon dala.:nuts::nuts::nuts:


hay, tani may directa guimbal na nga roro kay tapos na ang port. para pag naug ko, 3km nalang balay ko na. hehehe........

^^very busy kay dira man daan ang mga dulungkaan sg mga aswang kuno... later ko na lang ya gle na figure out nga ang mga aswang gle ya nga natumod nila dira are those GROs and sex workers nga gatabok2 via dumangas, gaabot by night then larga naman at the break of dawn via RORO. :lol:

METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 02:59 PM
Are we not human to have pride to protect? ;) Of course, it boils down with pride. Simple. Can't explain further. It depends on how you perceive the word.
Basta, its impossible that pride isn't there. That's simple. No need to explain elaborately. :)

Personalan? Hmmm, sorry. Much as I would like not to stoop down to that level. Ako aminado ko nga I sometimes go to that point, especially when having a heated argument--something that I would like to control. Urges are there. To err is to be human. But to be insulted, is something else.

Insakto gali ang siling sa akon ni Citykid a long time ago. Kid, I owe you. :okay:

^^
Read the first and last line of my 0.02. It all boils down to that. ;)

@Metro

I agree! Before, i admit i get affected kung personal comments na. Subong kadlaw na lang ko, bal an ko wala na siya may masabat.


Speaking of Ynion, do you guys know nga indi na dali dali ma agyan ang Ynion avenue sa puerto real? Residents cannot freely walk on that street anymore. We were jogging at about 5 am and gin harang kami sang guards niya hambal " di lang di sir mag agi, mangakig si boss" tapos gin try man namon mag agi by car basi pwede, still the same, di man pwede.

^^
RE Ynion:
Whoa! :eek:
Tsk tsk tsk... This is bad! :ohno:

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 03:06 PM
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/47710_149233401774742_100000642486492_309593_2167442_n.jpg

anthraxx
April 28th, 2011, 03:08 PM
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/47710_149233401774742_100000642486492_309593_2167442_n.jpg

PECO should really do something about their cables....:bash::bash:

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 03:09 PM
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58402_149232268441522_100000642486492_309590_8032526_n.jpg

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 03:12 PM
^^very busy kay dira man daan ang mga dulungkaan sg mga aswang kuno... later ko na lang ya gle na figure out nga ang mga aswang gle ya nga natumod nila dira are those GROs and sex workers nga gatabok2 via dumangas, gaabot by night then larga naman at the break of dawn via RORO. :lol:

ha ha ha. . . the new breed of witches; using the boat not the broom. . . ha ha ha. . .

Pero normal lang ina sa mga sex workers; galibot libot lang ina sila kag very adventurous - or else no papay. . .

demonoid724
April 28th, 2011, 03:15 PM
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58402_149232268441522_100000642486492_309590_8032526_n.jpg

^^inde lang man na da totally iya ka PECO ah... those wires nga may mga box belongs sa isa ka telephone company. not only those telcos add to the mess pati man ang mga cable tv companies... ang iya di gani ka Sky cable nga linya sa tubang balay namon daw pwede na pakabitan sg hinalay kay ga loyloy na gid ya. :bash:

another bad practice of these companies is that, once madisconnect na ang subscriber nila bay-an na lang da nila ang linya as if bwas mapa-reconnect liwat ang subscriber.. matuigan lang ga dugang lang nga gadugang ang wires kay man mga matamad ila lineman mangkakas.

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 03:17 PM
@Metro

I agree! Before, i admit i get affected kung personal comments na. Subong kadlaw na lang ko, bal an ko wala na siya may masabat.


Speaking of Ynion, do you guys know nga indi na dali dali ma agyan ang Ynion avenue sa puerto real? Residents cannot freely walk on that street anymore. We were jogging at about 5 am and gin harang kami sang guards niya hambal " di lang di sir mag agi, mangakig si boss" tapos gin try man namon mag agi by car basi pwede, still the same, di man pwede.

Poderoso? Eh, siguro ginapensar nya nga ngalan nya ang avenue so may karapatan sya nga pilion o i-stop ang naga-agi. . . lol

Bantay Ilonggos. . . basi kon sya mayor na, indi na kamo kasaka sa city hall, basi asta lang kamo sa kalye o sa hagdan; basi pa gani magbutang na sya sang helipad sa ibabaw sang city hall! he he he. . .

Basi kon mangayo kamo ilonggos sang bulig, imbes nga ihatag sa inyo sa kamot, ihaboy na lang sa inyo sa idalom sa kalye. . . he he he. . .

Well, indi malayo nga matabo kag posible pa iban nga indi maayo nga scenario kon sya na ang nagapadalagan sa syudad!!! ha ha ha. . .

anthraxx
April 28th, 2011, 03:19 PM
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58402_149232268441522_100000642486492_309590_8032526_n.jpg


abaw ti!! :bash::bash::bash: and those delapidated posts!! :ohno::ohno:

demonoid724
April 28th, 2011, 03:24 PM
^^daw nami ini i-post nga pic sa FB wall ni mayor para madiparahan ya man ang mga spaghetti wires sa ciudad.

the city government should do something about this.

oboi
April 28th, 2011, 03:27 PM
Regarding sa SM, i had a talk with angela and they say Southpoint isn't cutting it and they need a bigger space for expansions. And she said they are looking into creating more al fresco experiences for Ilonggos.

And an SSI company wants 3 spaces in SM Iloilo kaso its full na. And as of now, wala pa sang ma back out nga store so I don't know whats the deal with that.

SSI? Hmm... 3 spaces?
would it be... A/X, Gap, Marks & Spencer, Lush, CK, Zara.... in the future? :D

detdat
April 28th, 2011, 03:31 PM
Salamat gd Pre metro for the info and to the rest of you Guys. More Power SSC-Iloilo.:)and this is how all the HH being forwarded. swear this is my first time to recieve. Manol:nuts: anyway since im now more familiar with it i ll do my share also in case ako naman may source. sa liwat salamat.

oboi
April 28th, 2011, 03:34 PM
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58402_149232268441522_100000642486492_309590_8032526_n.jpg

Noodles caboodles of wires - this is very much prevalent throughout the country. Dapat may competition kung ano nga lugar ang may pinaka-grabe nga gual sang kuryente kag cable sa bug-os nga Pilipinas. Basi malakip pa sa Guinness Book of World Records. :D

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 03:38 PM
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58402_149232268441522_100000642486492_309590_8032526_n.jpg

Law -ay law-ay gid tan-awon. . .

Suggestion ko na lang sa city government, may be sa public service (?) and to Mayor Jed himself:

= di blah ang PPP is working well in Iloilo? May be the city should initiate the move to bury these cables. Strategies nga himuon?
1. call all companies using the posts - with cables, for a meeting, of course agenda is about those cables.
2. discuss the objectives / plan of the city to beautify / clean the city of those ugly cables;
3. solicit their solutions if they have; if none, then give recommendations;
4. have them make their plans - in black and white / nakasulat dapat sa papel - with timelines
5. get everyone's commitments (to remove those cables / bury those posts & cables); make them sign in their commitments;
6. monitor according to their plans / timelines and make kulit once in a while.

note: there should be a designated office to do these activities.

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 03:48 PM
Noodles caboodles of wires - this is very much prevalent throughout the country. Dapat may competition kung ano nga lugar ang may pinaka-grabe nga gual sang kuryente kag cable sa bug-os nga Pilipinas. Basi malakip pa sa Guinness Book of World Records. :D

Sadya ina! Daw contest. . . "Ang Pinaka. . . kalye or district" lol

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 03:52 PM
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/41303_148214181876664_100000642486492_305000_4273601_n.jpg

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 03:54 PM
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58854_148213425210073_100000642486492_304999_4296952_n.jpg

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 03:55 PM
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METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 03:55 PM
Law -ay law-ay gid tan-awon. . .

Suggestion ko na lang sa city government, may be sa public service (?) and to Mayor Jed himself:

= di blah ang PPP is working well in Iloilo? May be the city should initiate the move to bury these cables. Strategies nga himuon?
1. call all companies using the posts - with cables, for a meeting, of course agenda is about those cables.
2. discuss the objectives / plan of the city to beautify / clean the city of those ugly cables;
3. solicit their solutions if they have; if none, then give recommendations;
4. have them make their plans - in black and white / nakasulat dapat sa papel - with timelines
5. get everyone's commitments (to remove those cables / bury those posts & cables); make them sign in their commitments;
6. monitor according to their plans / timelines and make kulit once in a while.

note: there should be a designated office to do these activities.

^^
:applause::okay:

Impressive! Well laid out and detailed too! :yes:
We can actually forward this to Mayor JPM and we can include that pic as an (bad) example. :okay:

nguwerng
April 28th, 2011, 04:05 PM
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nami ni sya paguba ang outer walls kag ang iban na structures, tapos i palibotan sang garden...kag maghatag space for parking,tapos hmuon nga museum ang main nga old rehab building..:)

METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 04:09 PM
SSC ILOILO 'POLLSO' sang MASA!

As of today: April 28, 2011 10:09 PM PST

Country----Voters----Percentage
Austria-----4-----7.41%
China------ 1-----1.85%
Germany---14----25.93%
Japan------20----37.04%
Korea------15----27.78%

Voters: 54.

^^
Japan is still leading. While Germany is almost neck and neck with Korea for the 2nd place! :)
If you haven't voted yet, now is the time to cast your vote. ;)

anthraxx
April 28th, 2011, 04:12 PM
SSC ILOILO 'POLLSO' sang MASA!

As of today: April 28, 2011 10:09 PM PST

Country----Voters----Percentage
Austria-----4-----7.41%
China------ 1-----1.85%
Germany---14----25.93%
Japan------20----37.04%
Korea------15----27.78%

Voters: 54.

^^
Japan is still leading. While Germany is almost neck and neck with Korea for the 2nd place! :)
If you haven't voted yet, now is the time to cast your vote. ;)


dont forget to include insights regarding your vote! :okay:

habagatcentral1
April 28th, 2011, 04:14 PM
^^
Read the first and last line of my 0.02. It all boils down to that. ;)

Its just my observation. I'm not the one who is going to judge what kind of "pride" do we have but it somehow has a dual face on its own. That's what fuels naman sa SSC regional thread, and that has been fueling SSC since its ancient days. :)

METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 04:16 PM
Ilonggo tops Chemical Engineering board exam

ILOILO CITY, April 28 (PNA) - Economic deprivation has failed to dampen a poor, young man's desire to free himself from the shackles of poverty.

Twenty-two-year-old Luther Tabano from the town of Zarraga, in the province of Iloilo has proved that indeed his character is tough as bricks and hard as nails when he emerged first overall in the recent Chemical Engineering Board Examinations given by the Professional Regulation Commission (PRC).

Tabano, whose parents tend a small farm in Barangay Dawis confessed that even as a child he knew that his family was severely impoverished, hardly able to make ends meet.

But the economic hardships he suffered early in life became the driving force behind his unflagging resolve to conquer poverty, goading him to work hard as a student at the University of the Philippines in Diliman, Quezon City.

And finally, in a fitting recognition of his dogged efforts to rise from obscurity, Tabano bested 157 others in the Chemical Engineering Board Examinations with a rating of 84.60 percent.

Indeed, the young and the destitute Filipinos can draw inspiration from Luther Tabano, the humble, country boy from rural Iloilo. (PNA (http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=&nid=2&rid=343414))
LAP/ELTorrecampo/vlo

^^
Kudus! May your TRIBE increase! :applause:

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 04:20 PM
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METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 04:21 PM
Its just my observation. I'm not the one who is going to judge what kind of "pride" do we have but it somehow has a dual face on its own. That's what fuels naman sa SSC regional thread, and that has been fueling SSC since its ancient days. :)

^^
Exactly! Now that is better than the way you post it in an oversimplistic manner previously. Its better this time. It doesn't sound condescending too. :yes:

You've seen my point. I have seen yours. Lets leave it at that. ;)

Moving forward! :D

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 04:21 PM
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readytogo
April 28th, 2011, 04:22 PM
- Hala ano ni ang ginamo natabo man?. Bay-i niyo nalang na sila ah. Mga taga SSC-Bacolod malang na ang ga tikal2x. Dire actually sa amon sa JPMC (NET PLAZA), mapisan katama mga taga bacolod. Mostly ara sila sa Buzzing Area, Panglimpro CR, pero may ipalihog ka gani na bala sila hindi man sila tikalon ya. Para sa akon. Patikala niyo da sila tudo ah...amo ma lang na ang may ara sila kuha-on kag agawon pa naton sila?. Hayyyy.......

anthraxx
April 28th, 2011, 04:24 PM
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nugun ang mansion nga ni, the place is tilting and unstable due to the excavations done on its foundations.:ohno::ohno:

habagatcentral1
April 28th, 2011, 04:24 PM
^^
Exactly! Now that is better than the way you post it in an oversimplistic manner previously. Its better this time. It doesn't sound condescending too. :yes:

You've seen my point. I have seen yours. Lets leave it at that. ;)

Moving forward! :D
I prefer to say it simple and straightforward...since I was running late already. ;)

METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 04:25 PM
Ilongga student bags ‘Outstanding Journalist of the Philippines’ award

ILOILO CITY, April 28 (PNA) -- Jinnah Mae Villanueva, a graduating pupil of SPED (Special Education)-Integrated School for Exceptional Children in Iloilo City was awarded as the “Outstanding Journalist of the Philippines” after she won first place in the Filipino editorial writing, besting 50 contestants in the National Schools Press Conference held in Butuan City recently.

Villanueva’s mother, Sofia, who is a teacher, served as coach to her 13-year-old daughter.

Prior to her award, the young Villanueva was awarded as the Most Outstanding Elementary Pupil of Iloilo last March 11 at the Division of Iloilo which was sponsored by the Outstanding Students Circle of Iloilo (OSCI). In the same competition, she bagged also first place in copy reading, headline writing, news writing, and third place in Filipino editorial writing.

Also, Villanueva was proclaimed as the overall Highest Pointer during the Regional Schools Press Conference held in Punta Villa Resort in Arevalo, Iloilo City December last year.

On the other hand, the Western Visayas team bagged third place in technical application in radio broadcasting (secondary level) also in Butuan City.

The team was composed of Krizia Marie Queque of Ateneo de Iloilo, Angelo Estrella, Jasper Vijar, Aserina Baladjay, Jason Segovia, Grace Catipay, all of Iloilo National High School and Charice Sentina of Sipalay City. (PNA (http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=&nid=2&rid=343428))
LAP/LAM/ MGCaoyonan/vlo

^^
Kudus! May your TRIBE increase! :applause::okay:

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 04:30 PM
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virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 04:30 PM
nami ni sya paguba ang outer walls kag ang iban na structures, tapos i palibotan sang garden...kag maghatag space for parking,tapos hmuon nga museum ang main nga old rehab building..:)

May ara sang nagligad nga post nga nagsuggest sang museum for transportation. . .

Suggestion ko sini diri: Convert na lang sya museum for the transportation. So butangan nila sang:
1. kalesa
2. train nga ara sa Lapaz, transfer nila da
3. old models sang mga kotse
4. carrosa nga ginagamit sang una
5. old jeeps nga himo sa Lilo
6. etc.

Kung pwede ng daw hisotry ang gwa niya like: History of transport facilities / equipment used in Iloilo / Panay / WV.

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 04:34 PM
Ilonggo tops Chemical Engineering board exam

ILOILO CITY, April 28 (PNA) - Economic deprivation has failed to dampen a poor, young man's desire to free himself from the shackles of poverty.

Twenty-two-year-old Luther Tabano from the town of Zarraga, in the province of Iloilo has proved that indeed his character is tough as bricks and hard as nails when he emerged first overall in the recent Chemical Engineering Board Examinations given by the Professional Regulation Commission (PRC).

Tabano, whose parents tend a small farm in Barangay Dawis confessed that even as a child he knew that his family was severely impoverished, hardly able to make ends meet.

But the economic hardships he suffered early in life became the driving force behind his unflagging resolve to conquer poverty, goading him to work hard as a student at the University of the Philippines in Diliman, Quezon City.

And finally, in a fitting recognition of his dogged efforts to rise from obscurity, Tabano bested 157 others in the Chemical Engineering Board Examinations with a rating of 84.60 percent.

Indeed, the young and the destitute Filipinos can draw inspiration from Luther Tabano, the humble, country boy from rural Iloilo. (PNA (http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=&nid=2&rid=343414))
LAP/ELTorrecampo/vlo

^^
Kudus! May your TRIBE increase! :applause:

I highly appreciate these kind of people. . . Godspeed and the best of luck!!! :applause::applause::applause:

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 04:36 PM
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mark anthony
April 28th, 2011, 04:38 PM
Nice ready to go...('',)

Hi everyone! ('',) been here since 2009 sadya2x lang basa basa... add nyo lang ko da sa group ah! I've been talking a lot of Iloilo when i was in the U.S., shared pix and they got inlove with our beautiful city. Nxt yr some of my American friends and classmates will be visiting our beloved Iloilo, just in time nga damo na development cgurado. ('',)

METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 04:40 PM
I prefer to say it simple and straightforward...since I was running late already. ;)

^^
Hehehe I would love to argue that... there is a huge gap between keeping things simple and oversimplifying things... but I guess it would be better debated outside the confines of this thread (over a bottle of Tequilla perhaps? :lol:). For one, its hard to distinguish the nuances of the language here, the typewritten words doesn't completely reflect or represent the emotions that goes with it, these emoticons can only present a limited aspect of that emotion/gesture (if not the whole gamut of it.) Unless of course one is a very good mind reader, which I am not, that is why I would react to really squeeze out what you really mean. Well, since you are pressed for time, and I am not. I will end it here. All is well.
Just take this as one of those random ramblings of mine. Or just disregard all I said above and consider it a psycho babble. :D:lol:

readytogo
April 28th, 2011, 04:44 PM
Nice ready to go...('',)

Hi everyone! ('',) been here since 2009 sadya2x lang basa basa... add nyo lang ko da sa group ah! I've been talking a lot of Iloilo when i was in the U.S., shared pix and they got inlove with our beautiful city. Nxt yr some of my American friends and classmates will be visiting our beloved Iloilo, just in time nga damo na development cgurado. ('',)

- Welcome to the thread!. Actually delayed reaction ako sa kagamo di masyado busy....hehehe :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 04:45 PM
Iloilo mandates all employees to green city

ILOILO CITY, April 28 (PNA) -– Mayor Jed Patrick Mabilog is mandating the city's some 4,000 employees, including casuals and job hires to plant trees, especially fruit trees along the roads and vacant areas to help green the city.

The city mayor said he will also ask all barangay officials and Sangguniang Kabataan members numbering some 1,000 to join in the massive tree planting activity.

Mabilog said he was inspired after witnessing the “Tanum Kahoy” project initiated by the Iloilo City Urban Poor Affairs Office (ICUPAO) at Barangay Banuyao, La Paz district on Thursday, April 28.

The mayor said the massive planting project of more than 5,000 trees will hopefully take off on the month of June as the city’s contribution to the environment and mitigating response to climate change. (PNA (http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=&nid=8&rid=343412))
scs/LAM/LCPendon/vlo

^^
Padayon lang Mayor JPM! We are all behind you! :okay:

METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 04:50 PM
Nice ready to go...('',)

Hi everyone! ('',) been here since 2009 sadya2x lang basa basa... add nyo lang ko da sa group ah! I've been talking a lot of Iloilo when i was in the U.S., shared pix and they got inlove with our beautiful city. Nxt yr some of my American friends and classmates will be visiting our beloved Iloilo, just in time nga damo na development cgurado. ('',)

^^
Welcome back to SSC ILOILO @ mark anthony. :)

Be counted HERE (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=380308&page=121).

Just feel free to share your POVs, sentiments and suggestions to help improve our City and Province. ;)

Post if you have time to spare. :)

RE BOLDED Sentence:
That is great! Keep on promoting our beloved ILOILO! :okay:

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 04:57 PM
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Ngaa may excavation haw? Treasures? lol

I think the Iloilo City cultural. . . ek ek. . . should do something about this. Amo in bala nga ginapabay-an na lang tungod nga mas damo kita heritage buildings as compared to other cities kag bisan sa WV lang, iloilo has the most number. Pabay-an na lang? Please ICCCCCC. . . MOVE ASAP. . . SAVE WHAT CAN BE SAVED!!!

I am proud of my rich cultural heritage and be proud too, my dear ICCCCC Officials, aren't you!

oboi
April 28th, 2011, 04:58 PM
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The Archbishop's Residence should be restored/renovated. The structure was built in 1948 and designed by Juan Nakpil, the first National Artist for Architecture (1973).

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 05:00 PM
Iloilo mandates all employees to green city

ILOILO CITY, April 28 (PNA) -– Mayor Jed Patrick Mabilog is mandating the city's some 4,000 employees, including casuals and job hires to plant trees, especially fruit trees along the roads and vacant areas to help green the city.

The city mayor said he will also ask all barangay officials and Sangguniang Kabataan members numbering some 1,000 to join in the massive tree planting activity.

Mabilog said he was inspired after witnessing the “Tanum Kahoy” project initiated by the Iloilo City Urban Poor Affairs Office (ICUPAO) at Barangay Banuyao, La Paz district on Thursday, April 28.

The mayor said the massive planting project of more than 5,000 trees will hopefully take off on the month of June as the city’s contribution to the environment and mitigating response to climate change. (PNA (http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=&nid=8&rid=343412))
scs/LAM/LCPendon/vlo

^^
Padayon lang Mayor JPM! We are all behind you! :okay:

A good move by the mayor. . . Hope the soonest Iloilo city and hoping other provinces in Panay will be adopt the mandate. . . so that Panay will become green as well!

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 05:04 PM
Where else aside from SCC Forum can we bring our suggestions so that our city officials can read and take heed to some, if not all? FB ba? Thanks!!!

We have a good number of people in the forum, experts in their own rights and professions. . . they can give good suggestions. . . .

anthraxx
April 28th, 2011, 05:04 PM
Ngaa may excavation haw? Treasures? lol

I think the Iloilo City cultural. . . ek ek. . . should do something about this. Amo in bala nga ginapabay-an na lang tungod nga mas damo kita heritage buildings as compared to other cities kag bisan sa WV lang, iloilo has the most number. Pabay-an na lang? Please ICCCCCC. . . MOVE ASAP. . . SAVE WHAT CAN BE SAVED!!!

I am proud of my rich cultural heritage and be proud too, my dear ICCCCC Officials, aren't you!

yup! the heir thought there were... :cheers::cheers:

buhi pa mga heirs sina, dira pa sila naga istar despite nga unstable ang structure.

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 05:06 PM
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habagatcentral1
April 28th, 2011, 05:07 PM
Ngaa may excavation haw? Treasures? lol

I think the Iloilo City cultural. . . ek ek. . . should do something about this. Amo in bala nga ginapabay-an na lang tungod nga mas damo kita heritage buildings as compared to other cities kag bisan sa WV lang, iloilo has the most number. Pabay-an na lang? Please ICCCCCC. . . MOVE ASAP. . . SAVE WHAT CAN BE SAVED!!!

I am proud of my rich cultural heritage and be proud too, my dear ICCCCC Officials, aren't you!
I can't see it. Can someone please send it to my email habagatcentral[at]gmail[dot]com. Thanks.

BTW, regarding the number of heritage sites in one locality in WV, its not Iloilo who holds it although the density is the highest.

Where else aside from SCC Forum can we bring our suggestions so that our city officials can read and take heed to some, if not all? FB ba? Thanks!!!

We have a good number of people in the forum, experts in their own rights and professions. . . they can give good suggestions. . . .
Facebook is another way...since the IT team is so active to answer your queries...but just be careful about SORRY SIR, GUBA AMON KEYBOARD thingy. :lol:

mark anthony
April 28th, 2011, 05:08 PM
Thanks readytogo...enjoy enjoy gani..('',) Boss ko si Ma'am El gani ga enjoy man basa ka thread.. From time to time na update namon si Sen Frank re development sang Iloilo City. Brother sang boss ko bi si Sen and 1st cousin nila si mayor jed.... Panami-on nya gid and Iloilo amo na bati-an ko permi sa ila talk...('',) Kaya Iloilo city-Its your time to shine... Exited na si Sir Frank Balik sa Pinas From Panama cgurado attend guid ko sa meeting nila re Iloilo river this may. Sin o gusto ma upod?

Metropolitan Iloilo Thanks man ('',)

METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 05:18 PM
Thanks readytogo...enjoy enjoy gani..('',) Boss ko si Ma'am El gani ga enjoy man basa ka thread.. From time to time na update namon si Sen Frank re development sang Iloilo City. Brother sang boss ko bi si Sen and 1st cousin nila si mayor jed.... Panami-on nya gid and Iloilo amo na bati-an ko permi sa ila talk...('',) Kaya Iloilo city-Its your time to shine... Exited na si Sir Frank Balik sa Pinas From Panama cgurado attend guid ko sa meeting nila re Iloilo river this may. Sin o gusto ma upod?

Metropolitan Iloilo Thanks man ('',)

^^
I would love too but I will be somewhere else by May (prior commitments). If its not too much to ask, you can send me a PM regarding the talk (if its quite sensitive or classified) or you may share it in this thread for everyone to know. :okay:

Also, if you could squeeze it, we can send you a suggestion/recommendation for the City (we'll we can pool ideas here quite fast ;)) and you may try to hand it over to Toto Frank & Mayor JPM, what say you?

habagatcentral1
April 28th, 2011, 05:20 PM
Thanks readytogo...enjoy enjoy gani..('',) Boss ko si Ma'am El gani ga enjoy man basa ka thread.. From time to time na update namon si Sen Frank re development sang Iloilo City. Brother sang boss ko bi si Sen and 1st cousin nila si mayor jed.... Panami-on nya gid and Iloilo amo na bati-an ko permi sa ila talk...('',) Kaya Iloilo city-Its your time to shine... Exited na si Sir Frank Balik sa Pinas From Panama cgurado attend guid ko sa meeting nila re Iloilo river this may. Sin o gusto ma upod?

Metropolitan Iloilo Thanks man ('',)

Would like to. Hehe! But I'm in MNL. BTW, welcome to SSC! :wave:

ken_7
April 28th, 2011, 05:20 PM
Ngaa may excavation haw? Treasures? lol

I think the Iloilo City cultural. . . ek ek. . . should do something about this. Amo in bala nga ginapabay-an na lang tungod nga mas damo kita heritage buildings as compared to other cities kag bisan sa WV lang, iloilo has the most number. Pabay-an na lang? Please ICCCCCC. . . MOVE ASAP. . . SAVE WHAT CAN BE SAVED!!![/B]

[B]I am proud of my rich cultural heritage and be proud too, my dear ICCCCC Officials, aren't you!

:okay: . They thought that there was treasure buried in front of that Ledesma Mansion and started to dig. As a result, the facade of the mansion collapsed... I think mga kano ni nag rent sang mansion sang una coz they're perfectly believed nga may treasures sa dalum sang mga columns :bash: correct me if i'm wrong :)

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 05:24 PM
I can't see it. Can someone please send it to my email habagatcentral[at]gmail[dot]com. Thanks.

BTW, regarding the number of heritage sites in one locality in WV, its not Iloilo who holds it although the density is the highest.


Facebook is another way...since the IT team is so active to answer your queries...but just be careful about SORRY SIR, GUBA AMON KEYBOARD thingy. :lol:

Kaw naman!!! he he he. . . I said "other cities" naman eh!!! BTW, who holds it? Ignoramus ako. . . sorry!!! Alam ko Vigan lang and I'm not even sure of Cebu. TY

Ha ha ha. . . "Sorry sir guba amon keyboard!" There's always an alternative. . . indi lang naman isa ang computer sa office nila, di ba?

angelkirk89
April 28th, 2011, 05:26 PM
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Lots of good memories in this house. We had the chance to shoot our movie project here back in HS(Noli Me Tangere)...:cheers:...First choice namun was Montinola Mansion galing gin lagas kami sang ido...:lol:

super antigo na gid ya sa sulod...kululbaan kay daw ma guba siya ya...:lol:

habagatcentral1
April 28th, 2011, 05:32 PM
:okay: . They thought that there was treasure buried in front of that Ledesma Mansion and started to dig. As a result, the facade of the mansion collapsed... I think mga kano ni nag rent sang mansion sang una coz they're perfectly believed nga may treasures sa dalum sang mga columns :bash: correct me if i'm wrong :)
Ah, Don Joaquin Ledesma Mansion...since it is a private property, the state doesn't have any right--except if they would impose "eminent domain." As far as ICCHCC is concerned, it is their dilemma to have limitations since their scope of power is just concentrated in Calle Real CBD and the six plazas. All of the implementation of heritage conservation in Iloilo City as per mandated by the state/local government is concentrated on these areas only. The rest, as of the moment, is at the mercy of its private owners. The good thing though is that these private owners, especially in Jaro, are still keen in taking care of their heritage--but again, we may encounter things like what happened to the Locsin House in Molo, wherein ICCHCC was powerless to take action.

The Cacho Building--well, understandable since it is really unstable, lack of money and it has killed a person during an earthquake.

Kaw naman!!! he he he. . . I said "other cities" naman eh!!! BTW, who holds it? Ignoramus ako. . . sorry!!! Alam ko Vigan lang and I'm not even sure of Cebu. TY

Ha ha ha. . . "Sorry sir guba amon keyboard!" There's always an alternative. . . indi lang naman isa ang computer sa office nila, di ba?
:lol: Won't say it na lang kay basi ano pa matabu di since cultural mapping hasn't been done yet.

Actually, kon nabasa mo tong guinpost ko to, namangkot ko sa iya kon ngaa ALL CAPS sya kag akig sya. Ti, amu na sabat nya eh. :lol:

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 05:32 PM
Thanks readytogo...enjoy enjoy gani..('',) Boss ko si Ma'am El gani ga enjoy man basa ka thread.. From time to time na update namon si Sen Frank re development sang Iloilo City. Brother sang boss ko bi si Sen and 1st cousin nila si mayor jed.... Panami-on nya gid and Iloilo amo na bati-an ko permi sa ila talk...('',) Kaya Iloilo city-Its your time to shine... Exited na si Sir Frank Balik sa Pinas From Panama cgurado attend guid ko sa meeting nila re Iloilo river this may. Sin o gusto ma upod?

Metropolitan Iloilo Thanks man ('',)

Wish i could!!! Recommend ko ang members sang SCC nga ara sa Lilo to attend, or may be kung si Habagat maka-attend the better. . . lol. Si Metro, si 4threich, anthraxx, demonoid, Ilove . . . who else? basta mas damo mas merrier and a much better suggestions and interaction with Sen Frank. . .

TY

Hawili Hurom
April 28th, 2011, 05:32 PM
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mark anthony
April 28th, 2011, 05:39 PM
@ Metropolitan Iloilo - Yeah! that would be great ('',) I could do that and sure he'll be glad reading it too. Ya'll guys could make it formal recommendations and i'll hand it in to my Boss. Para mahatag nya sa Bro nya. I bet that would be a great idea then... ('',) just see my office then pag ready na papers..Pakilala taka dayon sa boss ko.

('',)

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 05:40 PM
:lol: Won't say it na lang kay basi ano pa matabu di since cultural mapping hasn't been done yet.

Actually, kon nabasa mo tong guinpost ko to, namangkot ko sa iya kon ngaa ALL CAPS sya kag akig sya. Ti, amu na sabat nya eh. :lol:

Sorry, my thought processing is quite slow. . . having colds now. . . can't get ya so clearly. . . A I've said I'm ignoramus, again sorry. . . Anyways, PM me if you could. Thanks again.

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 05:43 PM
@ Metropolitan Iloilo - Yeah! that would be great ('',) I could do that and sure he'll be glad reading it too. Ya'll guys could make it formal recommendations and i'll hand it in to my Boss. Para mahatag nya sa Bro nya. I bet that would be a great idea then... ('',) just see my office then pag ready na papers..Pakilala taka dayon sa boss ko.

('',)

I'm not in iloilo at the moment. . . I'm somewhere outside Philippines but within earth!!! Muchas gracias!!!

ken_7
April 28th, 2011, 05:43 PM
Ah, Don Joaquin Ledesma Mansion...since it is a private property, the state doesn't have any right--except if they would impose "eminent domain." As far as ICCHCC is concerned, it is their dilemma to have limitations since their scope of power is just concentrated in Calle Real CBD and the six plazas. All of the implementation of heritage conservation in Iloilo City as per mandated by the state/local government is concentrated on these areas only. The rest, as of the moment, is at the mercy of its private owners. The good thing though is that these private owners, especially in Jaro, are still keen in taking care of their heritage--but again, we may encounter things like what happened to the Locsin House in Molo, wherein ICCHCC was powerless to take action.

The Cacho Building--well, understandable since it is really unstable, lack of money and it has killed a person during an earthquake.


:lol: Won't say it na lang kay basi ano pa matabu di since cultural mapping hasn't been done yet.

Actually, kon nabasa mo tong guinpost ko to, namangkot ko sa iya kon ngaa ALL CAPS sya kag akig sya. Ti, amu na sabat nya eh. :lol:


Yes, that Don Joaquin Ledesma Mansion is well taken care of..sa sulod lang galing:lol: Mas ginagaan nila importansya ang old house nila sa likod na sang Mansion and usually every friday gina besitahan sang bilog nga family ledesma halin Ledesco ang old house nila dira sa likod Mansion..

oboi
April 28th, 2011, 05:50 PM
I find it odd that despite Iloilo having a lot of these ancestral houses and American period structures only a few were declared by the National Historical Institute now the National Historical Commission of the Philippines as heritage structures.

IMPRESARIO
April 28th, 2011, 05:53 PM
Akon idea ya is tani may foundation ining mga old and grand houses/mansions sa iloilo, kinda like the Newport mansions here in Rhode Island. (http://www.newportmansions.org/)

http://members.bostonusa.com/includes/images/Listings//newportmansions.gif

where it come be an income generating for these places. it can help them improve their houses and let the people, local and foreign tourist see these private houses personally. they can make a schedule in which when tourists are only allowed and to what extent they can explore,since some of these places are still occupied or lived on by the owners.

METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 05:58 PM
Wish i could!!! Recommend ko ang members sang SCC nga ara sa Lilo to attend, or may be kung si Habagat maka-attend the better. . . lol. Si Metro, si 4threich, anthraxx, demonoid, Ilove . . . who else? basta mas damo mas merrier and a much better suggestions and interaction with Sen Frank. . .

TY

^^
Actually I am here in MLA. If only the meeting/talk is here in MM. I would give an arm and a leg to go there, heck I will even skip work. :D

@ Metropolitan Iloilo - Yeah! that would be great ('',) I could do that and sure he'll be glad reading it too. Ya'll guys could make it formal recommendations and i'll hand it in to my Boss. Para mahatag nya sa Bro nya. I bet that would be a great idea then... ('',) just see my office then pag ready na papers..Pakilala taka dayon sa boss ko.

('',)

^^
Errrr... actually, I wouldn't be able to meet you in person, yet, locationwise. I am MNL based. But since we have this FORA, maybe, we can POOL our ideas for the CITY (or even include the Province) and have it collected and sent thru email or we can give them the LINK here. We have done this kind of things before with regard to giving suggestions to improve the website of Iloilo City (even correct a National Ad on TV). And WE can do this again here, right here, right now.

To start the BALL ROLLING here are two of the best suggestion/recommendation/vision for today so far:

1.

Share ko lang...
lupad sang paminsaron ah...hehehe :banana::banana:

Idea lang ni nga himo himo ko sa isip ko:

Fort San Pedro Area:
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr190/cpparreno/trippinglang.jpg


pwede man ni nga extend asta gid sa fishing port ang land reclaimation kag ang boulevard...

:banana::banana::banana:

2.

Law -ay law-ay gid tan-awon. . .

Suggestion ko na lang sa city government, may be sa public service (?) and to Mayor Jed himself:

= di blah ang PPP is working well in Iloilo? May be the city should initiate the move to bury these cables. Strategies nga himuon?
1. call all companies using the posts - with cables, for a meeting, of course agenda is about those cables.
2. discuss the objectives / plan of the city to beautify / clean the city of those ugly cables;
3. solicit their solutions if they have; if none, then give recommendations;
4. have them make their plans - in black and white / nakasulat dapat sa papel - with timelines
5. get everyone's commitments (to remove those cables / bury those posts & cables); make them sign in their commitments;
6. monitor according to their plans / timelines and make kulit once in a while.

note: there should be a designated office to do these activities.

^^
So how do you find these two suggestions/ideas/visions for starters?

We can actually GIVE you MORE. And we can collect all these.
Habagat will be the one to collect all these, edit if necesary, and present it in a professional manner.:yes:

What say you?

If YES? then give us 24-72 hours and we will flood you with all sort of ideas from simple to its complicated kind of thing. Seriously!

Are you up for it?

mark anthony
April 28th, 2011, 06:11 PM
('',) nice idea Metro... i like it!..A1..and im glad to be of help. aton naguid ni! ('',) Just introduce me to the group then, so that when the superb docs for recommendation/presentation for the big man is ready then and then ill get through...

habagatcentral1
April 28th, 2011, 06:19 PM
I find it odd that despite Iloilo having a lot of these ancestral houses and American period structures only a few were declared by the National Historical Institute now the National Historical Commission of the Philippines as heritage structures.

Since they are of private ownership. Many wouldn't opt to have it "safeguarded" by the national government since it may be a disadvantage over potential plans of the family.

With regard to churches...well, the clergy may insist on this, "the church and the state are separate." Then here comes other issues of the state and...:lol: Ang pari namon gani sa Pavia, he doens't like to have Pavia Church be declared as a national historical site or else it would be another headache just like Miag-ao's kuno.

However, I do agree though that despite the numerous numbers of institutions in Iloilo, it was rather slow for them to create the initiative to have it labeled as national heritage or historical treasures.

Calle Real for one, can be declared as a national historical treasure, one step of bringing help from the national government in restoration and conservation efforts. However, as of last time, no news about it yet.

Lets take a look on Carcar (http://www.ivanhenares.com/2006/07/when-will-nhi-declare-carcar.html), another heritage town in the Visayas.

As of the moment, the official national heritage towns and cities are: Silay City, Negros Occidental; Pila, Laguna; Taal, Batangas; Dapitan City, Zamboanga del Norte; and of course Vigan City, Ilocos Sur.

METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 06:20 PM
('',) nice idea Metro... i like it!..A1..and im glad to be of help. aton naguid ni! ('',) Just introduce me to the group then, so that when the superb docs for recommendation/presentation for the big man is ready then and then ill get through...

^^
Okay then! Its a deal. ;):okay:

Calling ALL SSC ILOILO FORUMERS! Now is the time for our IDEAS, VISIONS, DREAMS, SENTIMENTS, SUGGESTIONS & RECOMMENDATIONS to be heard. :

Just post it here in our THREAD: Make sure you PUT a TITLE on top with these WORDS: For Submission (check above example)

We only have 24-72 hours to do this starting tomorrow. Go go go! :D

mark anthony
April 28th, 2011, 06:21 PM
Thursday, April 28, 2011
More infrastructure projects for Iloilo this year
A SECOND batch of major infrastructure projects amounting P276 million for Iloilo City was included in this year's regular budget of the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH).

Congressman Jerry P. Treñas said the projects he submitted will help the city become more competitive and investment-friendly.

The projects include the seawall rehabilitation of Fort San Pedro, Ticud Bridge construction and bridge approaches, diversion road widening, Dungon Bridge rehabilitation and widening, and rehabilitation of coastal road from La Paz area to the boundary of Leganes which will have a combined budget of more than P260 million.

Treñas said he has filed a bill converting 19 city roads into national roads.

Treñas also won a bill for the upgrade of Western Visayas College of Science and Technology into a university.

The first batch of projects worth more than P200 million submitted by Treñas late last year is currently being worked out by DPWH. The projects include the circumferential and radial roads, road widening from Jaro to Leganes, rehabilitation of the Jaro Montinola Bridge, among others.

Go Iloilo ('',)

oboi
April 28th, 2011, 06:32 PM
Since they are of private ownership. Many wouldn't opt to have it "safeguarded" by the national government since it may be a disadvantage over potential plans of the family.

With regard to churches...well, the clergy may insist on this, "the church and the state are separate." Then here comes other issues of the state and...:lol: Ang pari namon gani sa Pavia, he doens't like to have Pavia Church be declared as a national historical site or else it would be another headache just like Miag-ao's kuno.

However, I do agree though that despite the numerous numbers of institutions in Iloilo, it was rather slow for them to create the initiative to have it labeled as national heritage or historical treasures.

Calle Real for one, can be declared as a national historical treasure, one step of bringing help from the national government in restoration and conservation efforts. However, as of last time, no news about it yet.

Lets take a look on Carcar (http://www.ivanhenares.com/2006/07/when-will-nhi-declare-carcar.html), another heritage town in the Visayas.

As of the moment, the official national heritage towns and cities are: Silay City, Negros Occidental; Pila, Laguna; Taal, Batangas; Dapitan City, Zamboanga del Norte; and of course Vigan City, Ilocos Sur.

Actually some of them pale compared to the "unofficial" heritage structures of Iloilo since I've been to all the places mentioned above. ;)

habagatcentral1
April 28th, 2011, 06:35 PM
Here are the guidelines and criteria for declaration and marking of historic sites and structures in our country as per NHCP (formerly NHI).

I. CRITERIA FOR IDENTIFICATION OF HISTORIC SITES AND STRUCTURES. The following set of criteria shall be applied in identifying important historic sites and structures:


Properties strongly associated with important historical events or personages and other illustrious Filipinos or whose owner had achieved an enduring contribution toward the enrichment of Philippine history and heritage:
Properties of architectural, artistic, historical, scientific and social significance, including those that depict local aesthetic values or their builders, and those related to a significant historical and cultural experience of the Filipino people;
Properties that bear strong foreign historical or period influences such as Chinese, Spanish, Mexican, American or Japanese and those with strong evidences of an active political, social, economic and cultural relations with neighboring countries;
Properties such as gates, walls, forts, towers, bastions, ramparts, parapets, bridges or palisades that stand out as monuments to the artistry, craftsmanship and industry of Filipino artisans and laborers who were responsible for their construction and serve as mute witnesses to the heroic spirit of the Filipinos of yesteryears;
Properties which were the sites of first establishments in the Philippines such as the site where the first printing press was built, first commercial house, first theater, first school, first transport system, first distillery, etc.; and,
Groups or clusters of buildings or structures, or a whole precinct, district, town center, including plazas, gardens, landscapes, historic ruins, streets, pathways, stairs, bridges, fences, visual corridors, vista points and other open spaces and town plan patterns, and the immediate environs that are given importance because of the homogeneous quality of the whole setting, and not due to their individual elements or characteristics.

II. CLASSIFICATION OF HISTORIC SITES AND STRUCTURES. Under existing Procedures, the framework adopted by the Commission in the classification of historic sites and structures for preservation consists of five categories as follows:


National Shrines – hallowed sites or structures and honored for their history or association, e.g.: Rizal Shrine-Calamba, Laguna; Rizal Shrine-Fort Santiago, Intramuros, Manila; Aguinaldo Shrine, Kawit, Cavite; Pinaglabanan Memorial Shrine, San Juan, MM; Quezon Memorial Shrine, Quezon City; and, Mabini Shrine, Tanauan, Batangas;
National Monuments – objects, structures or sites dedicated to memorialize or give reverence to special historic personage or event, e.g: Rizal National Monument, Rizal Park; A. Bonifacio National Monument, Caloocan City; Juan Luna Monument, Intramuros, Manila; and, Quezon Memorial, Quezon City;
National Landmarks – sites or structures that are associated with important event, achievement, characteristic, or modification that makes a turning point or stage in Philippine history, e.g.: Paoay Church Historical Landmark [also a World Heritage Site], Ilocos Norte; Miagao Church Historical Landmark [also a World Heritage Site], Iloilo; P. Burgos Elementary School, Pasay City; Sheik Mahkdum Historical Landmark, Tawi-Tawi; Taal (Town Center) Historical Landmark; Vigan (Town Center) Historical Landmark [also known as Vigan Heritage Village, a World Heritage Site]; and, Pila (Town Center) Historical Landmark, Pila, Laguna.
Heritage Houses – houses of ancestry with notable historical and cultural significance, e.g.: Syquia Mansion, Vigan City, Ilocos Sur; Houses in Silay City, Negros Occidental.
Historic Sites or Historic Structures – are also considered Important Cultural Properties (RA 10066), and those that do not fall under the above four (4) categories are marked and listed as Historic Sites or Historic Structures, and recorded in the NHCP’s National Registry of Historic Sites and Structures. Historic Sites – are natural areas or places with historical significance, and places recognized, marked or declared as such by the National Historical Commission of the Philippines’ predecessor agencies like: the National Historical Institute, the Philippine Historical Research and the Markers Committee, the Philippine Historical Committee, and the National Historical Commission, e.g: Mehan Gardens, City of Manila; Biak-na-Bato, San Miguel, Bulacan; Pamitinan Cave, Montalban, Rizal; Bessang Pass in Ilocos Sur. Historic Structures – are buildings, ruins, or other built-structures that have met the CRITERIA set by the NHCP, but have not been declared/classified as national shrines, monuments, landmarks, or heritage houses during the time of consideration.

Structures and sites under this classification may be re-categorized to National Landmark, National Shrine or National Monument status in the future if the criteria set by the NHCP are satisfactorily met, subject to the review and approval by the NHCP Board.

III. GUIDELINES FOR THE DECLARATION AND MARKING OF HISTORIC SITES AND STRUCTURES.


All sites and structures must fall within the NHCP Criteria for Identification of Historic Sites and Structures. In the identification procedure, all structures must, at least be 50 years old and 70 percent authentic to qualify for consideration. All structures 50 years or older are automatically listed as IMPORTANT CULTURAL PROPERTY (RA 10066). Those declared under the first three categories under the CLASSIFICATION OF HISTORIC SITES AND STRUCTURES qualify for financial support, technical assistance and protection by the government. All other sites and structures classified are extended technical assistance and protection.
All sites and structures that have passed the NHCP Criteria, and have been classified either as National Historical Shrine, National Historical Monument, National Historical Landmark, or Heritage House, shall be officially DECLARED through an NHCP Board Resolution, and installed with a MARKER. The declaration shall be stated in the NHCP Board Resolution and in the text of the marker. The cost of the marker fabrication shall be borne by the NHCP.
Standard Marker texts are in our national language (Pilipino). The fabrication and installation of a second marker in English or any major local dialect shall be borne by the proponent. The translated marker text shall be reviewed and approved by the NHCP prior to marker installation.
The standard marker shall be made of cast iron material, having a molded text plate/panel where the title and brief historical account are embossed. The official Republic Seal with the NHCP name and year the marker was installed, is placed at the top center of the marker. The Marker is normally attached at an eye level on the wall, either on the right or left side of the front door of the building, or it may be installed on a separate pedestal at an appropriate location at the front of the building. It may also be installed on any section of the building façade where it can be best viewed by the public, or at the front gate, when the previous options are not possible.
The acceptance of the NHCP marker/declaration will also include the responsibility of the owner of the historic property/marker recipient to maintain not only the historical marker but also the historic property itself.
Whenever a declared historic property is acquired from the previous owner, the responsibility to maintain, preserve and protect the historic property will be automatically transferred to the new owner. This should be included or made part of the terms and conditions of the deed of sale.
The Marker cannot be removed from the original site or structure which the marker signifies, nor be transferred to another site or location without prior written permission from the NHCP Chairperson.
Replacement marker to a lost marker shall be fabricated to retain the Republic Seal with the year of original installation and the original Agency which installed the marker.
When an historic structure is authorized to be relocated with valid justifications, the marker goes with the structure (if the relocation site is established to be the actual site, not the first site of installation).
When an historic structure is authorized to be relocated because the structure can be better preserved and appreciated in the new site, the old marker goes with the structure and a simple replacement marker indicating the old site as the original site, may be installed.
Local governments requesting NHCP to recognize, declare and mark significant historic sites and structures situated within their area of jurisdiction, shall present a copy of their Board Resolution stating their petition and supporting documents for appropriate action of the NHCP Board.
Petition to declare and mark historic sites and structures may also come from local historical societies, individuals, or owner/s of the property.
It shall be the responsibility of the local government units to document and inventory their local historic heritage sites and structures, and provide protective and fiscal measures.
The NHCP may, in the future, consider the declaration of any historic or heritage sites/structures as national shrines, national monuments, national landmarks, or heritage houses, if their present merits have already complied with the NHCP CRITERIA.
Historic sites and structures, which were already declared by National Museum of the Philippines as Important Cultural Property (ICP) or National Cultural Treasure (NCT) may also be marked and declared by the NHCP as National Historical Landmarks whenever these sites or structures have qualified under the NHCP CRITERIA and CLASSIFICATION. Likewise, there are existing significant sites and structures with dual or multiple declaration, e.g.: The Church of Miagao in Iloilo and the San Agustin Church in Intramuros, Manila have been declared National Cultural Treasure, National Historical Landmark, and World Heritage Site.

IV. GUIDELINES FOR DELISTING DECLARED/MARKED HISTORIC SITES OR STRUCTURES

Declared/marked historic sites or structures listed in the National Registry of Historic Sites and Structures in the Philippines may be ordered by the NHCP Board for delisting and/or marker removal if:


The NHCP found new evidence and proof that the subject site or structure does not really possess the historical significance which the previous declaration or marking was based;
The NHCP found new evidence or proof that points to another site or structure, instead of the subject site or structure;
The owner refuses to accept the declaration or marking of the subject site or structure;
There is negligence on the part of the owner to preserve, maintain and protect the subject site or structure, allowing damages and degradation (physical or visual) to occur. In this case, the historical significance of the subject site or structure is diminished;
The owner or occupant has intentionally violated the prescribed use or reuse of the subject historic site or structure. Improper utilization of the historic site or structure will cause accelerated deterioration and eventually, permanent losses;
The owner or occupant has intentionally made alterations, incompatible additions and changes, subtractions or demolitions that jeopardize the historical character, values and significance of the subject site or structure; and
There is any valid petition by the owner to delist the subject historic site or structure.

All provisions of this document shall be in consonance with R.A. 10086 and R.A. 10066 and their corresponding Implementing Rules and Regulations.

The NHCP shall follow due process in the implementation of these guidelines, and may opt to convene panels of experts to resolve issues and recommend Board actions for the best interests of the historic sites and structures.

Source: The National Historical Commission of the Philippines (http://www.nhi.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=2&func=startdown&id=395)

habagatcentral1
April 28th, 2011, 06:39 PM
Actually some of them pale compared to the "unofficial" heritage structures of Iloilo since I've been to all the places mentioned above. ;)
Indeed. However, it is the local government and the community's initiative that made them a head start. Iloilo was late. Silay's story was of vigilance of their citizenry during the times when a former mayor of theirs wanted to demolish the old houses to make way for the national highway--the residents refused--from then on, the city was declared in order to protect the national cultural treasures. Dapitan is more historical, rather than heritage, since it is where Rizal spent his days in exile. Pila has many old houses, and so is Taal. All of the towns mentioned have their own heritage councils way before ICCHCC even came.

But how come Iloilo has such number of heritage structures in a highly-urbanized setting, didn't initiated it? If they can do it, why can't we? ;) That is why cultural mapping is already a start, albeit late in such city full of heritage sites.

I just wonder why the previous administrations, long before Treñas' term (since ICCHCC was formed under his administration sometime in 2000) haven't thought of this? We got a lot of heritage structures yet was it either the local government or the community lacks the guts to have Iloilo declared as a heritage city or were we too busy with other things "that are far more important" than history?

Again, it still boils down to the local community whom initiative should start, not with the national government. The good thing though, the LGU here has initiated it--but news about the upcoming heritage month's activity is "naalanganin" because of money issues.

METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 06:45 PM
Actually some of them pale compared to the "unofficial" heritage structures of Iloilo since I've been to all the places mentioned above. ;)

^^
Upon saying that, I AGREE with you, Mr. Voyager! :okay:


Indeed. However, it is the local government and the community's initiative that made them a head start. Iloilo was late. If they can do it, why can't we? ;) That is why cultural mapping is already a start, albeit late in such city full of heritage sites.

I just wonder why the previous administrations, long before Treñas' term (since ICCHCC was formed under his administration sometime in 2000) haven't thought of this? We got a lot of heritage structures yet was it either the local government or the community lacks the guts to have Iloilo declared as a heritage city or were we too busy with other things "that are far more important" than history?

Again, it still boils down to the local community whom initiative should start, not with the national government.

^^
Ahhh.... it has been my siggy eversince. 'The Emerging Museum City' :D

habagatcentral1
April 28th, 2011, 06:47 PM
^^
Ahhh.... it has been my siggy eversince. 'The Emerging Museum City' :D
Siguraduhin lang nila yan...whoever sits in the City Hall, basta magpadayon guihapon ang ina nga causa. We should have been declared as a heritage city, long before. Problema lang, kalawlaw sang initiative sang comunidad ta. It takes the guts of the state to have it started.

Anyway, if I could get a copy of the ordinance of Calle Real and 6 plazas, I could share this to you folks here, to understand the dynamics that heritage conservation is never an easy "DO THIS ASAP! BURY THIS ASAP! ASAP! ASAP!" (I'm quite irked about that "commanding ASAP!" thing when it comes to heritage structures). Try talking to the owners and tenants themselves, and see who wouldn't get irked about some of their hard-headed-ness or "abi, tagai kami kwarta pangpinta!" mindset. :doh:

METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 28th, 2011, 07:05 PM
Siguraduhin lang nila yan...whoever sits in the City Hall, basta magpadayon guihapon ang ina nga causa. We should have been declared as a heritage city, long before. Problema lang, kalawlaw sang initiative sang comunidad ta. It takes the guts of the state to have it started.

Anyway, if I could get a copy of the ordinance of Calle Real and 6 plazas, I could share this to you folks here, to understand the dynamics that heritage conservation is never an easy "DO THIS ASAP! BURY THIS ASAP! ASAP! ASAP!" (I'm quite irked about that "commanding ASAP!" thing when it comes to heritage structures). Try talking to the owners and tenants themselves, and see who wouldn't get irked about some of their hard-headed-ness or "abi, tagai kami kwarta pangpinta!" mindset. :doh:

^^
BOLD GREEN : We'll they should or else! :bash::bash::bash:

BOLD RED : SuperLIKE! :banana::cheers:
I think aside from the City of Love (nothing against it), being known as an emerging Museum City of the Philippines is something we can all be proud of. Agree? :)

BOLD BLUE : LAME! :bash::bash::bash:

Maybe Mayor JPM can do something about the BOLD BLUE to give them more police powers or teeth to implement the guidelines? What do you think?

ASAP? You hate ASAP? What about PP? :lol: Just kidding! Peace Brotha! :chill:


Lastly, let me end this post with a quote:

"A society is defined not only by what it creates, but by what it refuses to destroy."

Good night ILONGGOs. http://www.laymark.com/i/o/66.gif (http://www.laymark.com)

habagatcentral1
April 28th, 2011, 07:08 PM
^^ No, its not just ICCHCC who handles heritage conservation, it takes the whole community, from the elite to the tenants to the poor, to cooperate. Police power is not enough if the state doesn't have enough resources to make "sampal" to the private owners.

oboi
April 28th, 2011, 07:11 PM
^^I guess many prominent Ilonggo families are not so keen in declaring their ancestral houses/properties as something "heritage." Although the recognition by the NHCP is something glamorous and it gives them the privilege of having some bragging rights, I suppose, it's not enough to convince them to give up full control of their respective properties since they have guidelines/rules to follow. Another thing is the bureaucracy that one has to deal with after that.

oboi
April 28th, 2011, 07:14 PM
^^
Upon saying that, I AGREE with you, Mr. Voyager! :okay:


^^
Ahhh.... it has been my siggy eversince. 'The Emerging Museum City' :D

Darn! forgot that my user title says "voyager." :lol:

I very much agree with your siggy! :okay:

oboi
April 28th, 2011, 07:18 PM
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h141/oboi_1/2011/ledesma.jpg

habagatcentral1
April 28th, 2011, 07:31 PM
^^I guess many prominent Ilonggo families are not so keen in declaring their ancestral houses/properties as something "heritage." Although the recognition by the NHCP is something glamorous and it gives them the privilege of having some bragging rights, I suppose, it's not enough to convince them to give up full control of their respective properties since they have guidelines/rules to follow. Another thing is the bureaucracy that one has to deal with after that.
Here's another one from NHCP, just for the FYI of everyone.
GUIDELINES ON THE DECLARATION OF HERITAGE HOUSES

...
II. CRITERIA FOR HERITAGE HOUSES


Age. These houses are esteemed for their age and for having well withstood the ravages of time. These houses must be at least fifty (50) years old to qualify.
Site. The site or setting may be urban, suburban, upland, lowland, or rural, and may be of environmental, historical, cultural, and/or artistic importance.
Representative of Development or Styles in Architecture. These are houses which represent a particular architectural style, form, or milestone development, revolutionary technology, relating to a significant historico-cultural experience of the Filipino people. In considering particular architectural characteristics of the period, the development of architectural styles should be taken into account: 1. Initial development/s; 2. Full development
Authenticity. The house should not have undergone any major renovation or modification that has altered its form, character, and style. A house, in order to be declared a Heritage House, should have at least seventy five percent (75%) of the original structure and materials.

III. PRIVILEGES FOR BEING A HERITAGE HOUSE

The owner of a Heritage House is entitled to certain privileges. Such privileges and legislation should be coordinated and tied-up with government finance agencies, such as the Department of Finance and the Bureau of Internal Revenue.


Tax Incentives. These could come in the form of reduced realty tax or tax deductions from income for repairs and maintenance of the Heritage House.
Government Assistance. The government could help finance the repair or maintenance of a declared Heritage House. It can also provide technical advice on how to carry out preservation and restoration works.
Status of a Heritage House. The house is declared a Heritage House signifying its significance, and is identified as such by a plaque installed by the National Historical Commission of the Philippines.
Privacy and Public Access to the Property. Public accessibility for the purpose of historical education and the level of owner privacy shall be arranged between the NHCP and the Owner/s in a Memorandum of Agreement prior to the declaration of the house as a Heritage House.

IV. RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE OWNER OF THE HERITAGE HOUSE


Preservation of Houses. Heritage Houses should be well-maintained and in good condition. They should not be allowed to deteriorate. There should be no major alterations, especially of the exterior, the immediate surroundings, and the major rooms in the house. Any repair, addition, alteration, renovation, restoration or reconstruction must have written permission of the NHCP Chairperson, and should make use of conservation or construction methods which are technologically accepted by conservationists and restoration architects. Furniture and interior architectural ornaments should likewise be well-maintained as they are important decorative components of the Heritage House.
Ownership of the House. The owner retains private ownership of a house officially declared as a Heritage House by the NHCP. If a property (lot), wherein a declared Heritage House is located, should be used for some other purpose, the owner has the option to dismantle the Heritage House and transfer it to another site. New structures should not compete, dominate, or obstruct, but rather shall be made to harmonize with the Heritage House.
Access to Visitors. Visits to the Heritage Houses may be conducted in close coordination with owner/s, and in accordance with the MOA between the NHCP and the Owner/s.
Assumption of Responsibility. The heirs of the owner assume responsibility for the Heritage House upon the demise of the owner. In case the house and the property are sold, the government shall be given the first priority of purchase. When the new owner assumes possession of the house and property, responsibilities are passed on to him.
Non-Agreement among the Legal Owners. In case one or more of the owners does/do not want to preserve the house, but instead, they want to sell/dispose of the property for monetary reasons, the owner who would like to retain and preserve the property may buy out the shares of the disagreeing party/ies.



Source: NHCP (http://www.nhi.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=2&func=startdown&id=396)

true blue ilonggo
April 28th, 2011, 07:37 PM
Nice ready to go...('',)

Hi everyone! ('',) been here since 2009 sadya2x lang basa basa... add nyo lang ko da sa group ah! I've been talking a lot of Iloilo when i was in the U.S., shared pix and they got inlove with our beautiful city. Nxt yr some of my American friends and classmates will be visiting our beloved Iloilo, just in time nga damo na development cgurado. ('',)

welcome mark anthony... time to share your ideas in support for our beloved city's development. :) :cheers:

Thanks readytogo...enjoy enjoy gani..('',) Boss ko si Ma'am El gani ga enjoy man basa ka thread.. From time to time na update namon si Sen Frank re development sang Iloilo City. Brother sang boss ko bi si Sen and 1st cousin nila si mayor jed.... Panami-on nya gid and Iloilo amo na bati-an ko permi sa ila talk...('',) Kaya Iloilo city-Its your time to shine... Exited na si Sir Frank Balik sa Pinas From Panama cgurado attend guid ko sa meeting nila re Iloilo river this may. Sin o gusto ma upod?

Metropolitan Iloilo Thanks man ('',)

my request for the big man? is for him to use his personal and political connections to invite more investors to do business in our city. my other request? that he and his allies (mabilog and trenas), will counter the threat of some "emerging evil forces," that could herald iloilo's return to the dark ages. kilala nyo naman na cguro ah. :ohno: :bash:

^^


^^
Pre samtang gatigulang, galanglang! :lol::bash:
Kung diskusyunanay na gani nga mayo, di na kaisrot!
Maan! :lol:


^^
Are there any plans to expand the Dumangas Port?

kung sa ibang salita pa, "tumatanda ng pa-urong ah." :colgate: :laugh:

^^ I toured a friend from SSC Manila last Saturday. Kibot ko sang nakita ko nga may port naman gali sa Guimbal. May mga crane man didto.

Ang Bearland Resort sa Tigbauan owned by a German is still not open for public. Only few individuals are allowed to enter the vicinity of the resort. Ilicenxa pa xa danay sa owner. The whole resort is equipped with CCTVs. Live streaming siya sa Germany. Overnight sa isa ka suite P6,000.

6 thousand? mahal man ah? by the way, thanks sa info pre... :cheers:



^^
Hahaha spot on Pre. :okay:
TRUTH hurts! :bash::bash::bash::bash::lol:
Kung si Impresario pa, 'Deal with it!' :lol:



^^
Huh? You talk as if defending our pride is to be blamed. Look back...
Who started it all? Did we initiate or did they? Which side are fond of biting more than they can chew?

PRIDE? Everybody has one, and if that pride is stepped upon, would you not react? Or dare to even protect it?

They throw crap, we dock, we evade, heck, we sometimes deflect it back to them. When we try to engage them in intellectual discussions, to which requires some large amount of neurons to burn, they would result to personal attacks? Why? Simply because they cannot attack our arguments, so they attack us personally! Ain't that the case? Ask Ken, Kiddo, Samwise, Zynet, Yeinjee, True Blue, Tagoy and Kalilo. (Do I have to include myself? :lol:)

For the longest time that I am here, we minded our own business, the hell I care about them unless of course they tried to intrude our turf to cause havoc or throw insults (Does Dinho, Duke U, Jing, SUV, Jayjay, Juicy etc ring a bell?). Can't they just mind their own? Is their thread that boring enough or lacking intellectual merit that they will make an excuse of thrash talking us, or campaign negatively about our place so that their place would stand out, or downplay our progress and developments intead?

This will only stop if they stop minding our business and start minding their own! Period.

My 0.02.



^^

Your guess is as good as mine.

truth really hurts pre... basta ako ya, depensahan ko lang ya ang thread ta ah. no matter what. :cheers::cheers::cheers::lol:

@Metro

I agree! Before, i admit i get affected kung personal comments na. Subong kadlaw na lang ko, bal an ko wala na siya may masabat.


Speaking of Ynion, do you guys know nga indi na dali dali ma agyan ang Ynion avenue sa puerto real? Residents cannot freely walk on that street anymore. We were jogging at about 5 am and gin harang kami sang guards niya hambal " di lang di sir mag agi, mangakig si boss" tapos gin try man namon mag agi by car basi pwede, still the same, di man pwede.

basi kung mag mayor sya, tanan nga dalan sang iloilo sya lang ang may right of way ha? this is not a good sign. gamay pa lang gani nga poder, abusado na... how much more, kung ara na sa public office? hmmmm. :lol::nuts:

mang garitgarit grabe, kon patulan gani, indi man kaisrot...lol
gin try ta nga mangin mayu kag magsuggest sa iban to focus, I do my part I expect others to do too.

Tao lang po senor, Ipakigbato ang dapat ipagkigbato.
cant help myself but piss on your piss because some shithead threw stones to someone esp. Hawili who doesn't talk much except flood us with pictures of Iloilo's everyday life..
heck i won't even bother back kon ako man lang atakehon niyo.
peace and get laid baby...!! LMAO

wala opisyo ah... kung di mag kutso-kutso kag mamamantay ah. ambot kung ga dugang ila kwarta sa amo na nga opisyo nila? :lol::lol::lol:

zephyr11
April 28th, 2011, 07:41 PM
It's a fact - ang iban nga taga pihak indi ka sustener sang argumento. Makaluluoy kag kaladlawan. Kun indi matapna delikado. Basi mag spontaneous combustion. Puno abi ka "hot air" ang iban. Tsk tsk tsk.

true blue ilonggo
April 28th, 2011, 07:42 PM
mga miembro sang tribo ni dagoy, mauna ko tulog... tuyo na ako. :ohno: good night lang ah. daw ma damguhan ko na naman ni karon ang ground breaking sang megaworld, ang theme park, richmonde hotel, park medical center, etc... hayyy. daw kanami magtulog lang pirme ah. hehehe. :lol: :wave: :laugh: :nuts:

oboi
April 28th, 2011, 09:06 PM
A comprehensive Direction Signs for Iloilo City is deemed lacking.

Being the regional center of Western Visayas and a city of festivals it is expected that there are a lot of non-locals who will be coming to the city. It is only apt that city will provide them with Direction Signs. It shows courtesy and that we value them. Isn't it exasperating when you don't know which goes where?

My suggestion is we come up a comprehensive and informative direction sign within the city.

Here's of an example of what I have in mind. Such sign is helpful to both drivers and commuters.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h141/oboi_1/2011/directionsign.jpg

A direction sign should at least show, if possible:
1. police station
2. fire station
3. hospital
4. points of interest
5. location
6. possible destinations
7. malls/commercial center/town center
8. transport terminal

Also, I hope more gantries are built for road signs.

------

An earlier suggestion of habagatcentral1 of having uniform street signs throughout the city is also a must.

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 09:23 PM
Indeed. However, it is the local government and the community's initiative that made them a head start. Iloilo was late. Silay's story was of vigilance of their citizenry during the times when a former mayor of theirs wanted to demolish the old houses to make way for the national highway--the residents refused--from then on, the city was declared in order to protect the national cultural treasures. Dapitan is more historical, rather than heritage, since it is where Rizal spent his days in exile. Pila has many old houses, and so is Taal. All of the towns mentioned have their own heritage councils way before ICCHCC even came.

But how come Iloilo has such number of heritage structures in a highly-urbanized setting, didn't initiated it? If they can do it, why can't we? ;) That is why cultural mapping is already a start, albeit late in such city full of heritage sites.

That is the question! But still, better late than never. Heritage consciousness has just dawned among Ilonggos, particularly among the SCC Forumers!

I just wonder why the previous administrations, long before Treñas' term (since ICCHCC was formed under his administration sometime in 2000) haven't thought of this? We got a lot of heritage structures yet was it either the local government or the community lacks the guts to have Iloilo declared as a heritage city or were we too busy with other things "that are far more important" than history?

Again, it still boils down to the local community whom initiative should start, not with the national government. The good thing though, the LGU here has initiated it--but news about the upcoming heritage month's activity is "naalanganin" because of money issues.

I guess, because of so much politics of those days of yore, so much corruption was there that practically only one man was so powerful - just crossing my fingers that history will not repeat itself in the person of the king elephant - that Ilonggos ventured in the big city became very affluent but have become less patriotic to their place of origin.

The now generation of educated Ilonggos, patriotism/ loyalty to Iloilo is coming back. Knowing the bulk of SCC forumers who are educated / intellectuals, strong support should come from among ourselves.

Anything we can do?

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 09:33 PM
Since they are of private ownership. Many wouldn't opt to have it "safeguarded" by the national government since it may be a disadvantage over potential plans of the family.

With regard to churches...well, the clergy may insist on this, "the church and the state are separate." Then here comes other issues of the state and...:lol: Ang pari namon gani sa Pavia, he doens't like to have Pavia Church be declared as a national historical site or else it would be another headache just like Miag-ao's kuno.

However, I do agree though that despite the numerous numbers of institutions in Iloilo, it was rather slow for them to create the initiative to have it labeled as national heritage or historical treasures.

Calle Real for one, can be declared as a national historical treasure, one step of bringing help from the national government in restoration and conservation efforts. However, as of last time, no news about it yet.

Lets take a look on Carcar (http://www.ivanhenares.com/2006/07/when-will-nhi-declare-carcar.html), another heritage town in the Visayas.

As of the moment, the official national heritage towns and cities are: Silay City, Negros Occidental; Pila, Laguna; Taal, Batangas; Dapitan City, Zamboanga del Norte; and of course Vigan City, Ilocos Sur.

I have visited these cities / places and talked with local officials, not security guards or janitor - lol, sorry, but just my own personal observation, because I saw them with my own eyes, Iloilo has more to offer when it comes to heritage structures.

So I think, though it's late (is it?) Iloilo should apply for it too. . . Again, sorry, if I'm showing here my ignoramity (he he he. . . new word!)

mark anthony
April 28th, 2011, 09:48 PM
@True Blue Ilonggo ('',) Thanks.. Nice 1!

alheaine
April 28th, 2011, 10:12 PM
A comprehensive Direction Signs for Iloilo City is deemed lacking.

Being the regional center of Western Visayas and a city of festivals it is expected that there are a lot of non-locals who will be coming to the city. It is only apt that city will provide them with Direction Signs. It shows courtesy and that we value them. Isn't it exasperating when you don't know which goes where?

My suggestion is we come up a comprehensive and informative direction sign within the city.

Here's of an example of what I have in mind. Such sign is helpful to both drivers and commuters.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h141/oboi_1/2011/directionsign.jpg

A direction sign should at least show, if possible:
1. police station
2. fire station
3. hospital
4. points of interest
5. location
6. possible destinations
7. malls/commercial center/town center
8. transport terminal

Also, I hope more gantries are built for road signs.

------

An earlier suggestion of habagatcentral1 of having uniform street signs throughout the city is also a must.

^^
nice2x..dapat lang guid may amu cni..maski aku gasala pa sa iloilo city maski almost 5yrs lng nka stay..:bash::bash::lol::lol::lol:

alheaine
April 28th, 2011, 10:16 PM
^^:lol::lol::lol: hayz! liwat2x tuod aton di discussion, it's becoming a broken record.


^^Left behind? Lantawa subong Iloilo kag bacolod. Sino ang left behind?
answer: Iloilo City

^^ok this is what I've got to say to you, let two cities compliment each other for a greater Western Visayas...nan may e commentar ka pa da hehehe:lol::lol::lol:

-end-
:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts: oooppppsssss

habagatcentral1
April 28th, 2011, 10:25 PM
That is the question! But still, better late than never. Heritage consciousness has just dawned among Ilonggos, particularly among the SCC Forumers!

I guess, because of so much politics of those days of yore, so much corruption was there that practically only one man was so powerful - just crossing my fingers that history will not repeat itself in the person of the king elephant - that Ilonggos ventured in the big city became very affluent but have become less patriotic to their place of origin.

The now generation of educated Ilonggos, patriotism/ loyalty to Iloilo is coming back. Knowing the bulk of SCC forumers who are educated / intellectuals, strong support should come from among ourselves.

Anything we can do?
This is just here, how about the next generation. We should spread the word of Ilonggo history and heritage conservation thru education. Start it with elementary or high school--not just in college. And as Ben Jimena said, we should go beyond Dinagyang as something that labels as Ilonggo--which is isn't at all.

Actually, the schools have fostered Ilonggo pride thru Dinagyang, although the culturality itself is "artificially-made." The true Ilonggo heritage and history doesn't also dwell ONLY with that notoriously debated topic of "Queen City of the South" title, which in the first place, the only perpetual title that was bestowed to Iloilo by Spain was La Muy Leal y Noble Ciudad. That's not enough--we're skipping the details. A lot doesn't know who Nazaria Lagos or Pura Villanueva or what transpired here in Iloilo during the revolution and what made it as once the second most important city in the country--but people, just bathe into defending that title--like I know some.

SSC is not enough. It needs to be spread forward to the rest of the society, to the masses--not just policy makers.

I have visited these cities / places and talked with local officials, not security guards or janitor - lol, sorry, but just my own personal observation, because I saw them with my own eyes, Iloilo has more to offer when it comes to heritage structures.

So I think, though it's late (is it?) Iloilo should apply for it too. . . Again, sorry, if I'm showing here my ignoramity (he he he. . . new word!)
Iloilo has many heritage structures, although under private property and are individually managed. In the province though, there are few to none heritage towns that exist...thanks to our seemingly "burning culture" and arson during the wars. Whims and caprices of the private owners make heritage buildings vulnerable--just like the Locsin house in Molo.

Only just now that the ordinance was passed and finally the guidelines that is being implemented bit by bit. Yet if only we have started more than a decade ago, we could've been declared already as a heritage site--which would put the city under the rules that I mentioned by NHI--advantages and also more financial backing for heritage structures. Prestige only comes next.

In the end, it is still US as part of the local community, to take the initiative to have Iloilo City declared as a heritage city, not the national government. That we can learn from those places that I have mentioned. Good news is that, if we are successful in preserving cultural heritage within our area, we are then to be a model of heritage preservation and urban planning on a highly-urbanized area.

Money is also needed at the same time.

Siling gani ni Katy Perry,
"...Do you know that there's still a chance for you
Cause there's a spark in you
You just gotta ignite the light
And let it shine
Just own the night
Like the Fourth of July..."

:D

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 10:47 PM
This is just here, how about the next generation. We should spread the word of Ilonggo history and heritage conservation thru education. Start it with elementary or high school--not just in college. And as Ben Jimena said, we should go beyond Dinagyang as something that labels as Ilonggo--which is isn't at all.

Actually, the schools have fostered Ilonggo pride thru Dinagyang, although the culturality itself is "artificially-made." The true Ilonggo heritage and history doesn't also dwell ONLY with that notoriously debated topic of "Queen City of the South" title, which in the first place, the only perpetual title that was bestowed to Iloilo by Spain was La Muy Leal y Noble Ciudad. That's not enough--we're skipping the details. A lot doesn't know who Nazaria Lagos or Pura Villanueva or what transpired here in Iloilo during the revolution and what made it as once the second most important city in the country--but people, just bathe into defending that title--like I know some.

SSC is not enough. It needs to be spread forward to the rest of the society, to the masses--not just policy makers.


Iloilo has many heritage structures, although under private property and are individually managed. In the province though, there are few to none heritage towns that exist...thanks to our seemingly "burning culture" and arson during the wars. Whims and caprices of the private owners make heritage buildings vulnerable--just like the Locsin house in Molo.

Only just now that the ordinance was passed and finally the guidelines that is being implemented bit by bit. Yet if only we have started more than a decade ago, we could've been declared already as a heritage site--which would put the city under the rules that I mentioned by NHI--advantages and also more financial backing for heritage structures. Prestige only comes next.

In the end, it is still US as part of the local community, to take the initiative to have Iloilo City declared as a heritage city, not the national government. That we can learn from those places that I have mentioned. Good news is that, if we are successful in preserving cultural heritage within our area, we are then to be a model of heritage preservation and urban planning on a highly-urbanized area.

Money is also needed at the same time.

Siling gani ni Katy Perry,
"...Do you know that there's still a chance for you
Cause there's a spark in you
You just gotta ignite the light
And let it shine
Just own the night
Like the Fourth of July..."

:D

Calling Mayor Jed!!! Please pay attention here. . . more BACKING PLEASE!!! ASAP!!! I'm sure like I, you want Iloilo City, just the city only because that in the province have been lost already, to be declared a heritage city. . . . wow!!! I am more proud of my city and my past!!!

habagatcentral1
April 28th, 2011, 11:11 PM
Calling Mayor Jed!!! Please pay attention here. . . more BACKING PLEASE!!! ASAP!!! I'm sure like I, you want Iloilo City, just the city only because that in the province have been lost already, to be declared a heritage city. . . . wow!!! I am more proud of my city and my past!!!

With regard to the ecclesiastical heritage such as the Church, I can only cross my fingers that Archbishop Lagdameo's team for Cultural Heritage of the Church would be responsible enough to retain most of the aspects of the their churches...and not overly-modifying it as according to the whims of some of the parish priest.

I can still remember the "heated exchange" between NCCA/NHI (NHCP today) and Monsignor Sale in Miag-ao Church due to the construction of the sacristy
behind the church. It alarmed the state officials as it may have been a ticket of de-listing Miag-ao Church from the UNESCO World Heritage Site. Since it is also declared as a national historical treasure/site, the state has the right to intervene in "what ons" at Miag-ao Church.

The cemeteries, by the way, are one of our best cultural assets that we have. I applaud the San Joaquin Municipal Government and its people in restoring and maintaining the Camposanto and the old cemetery itself. Janiuay on the other hand is a big dissapointment--as if it is not properly taken care of despite having its claim as "one of the most beautiful cemeteries" in the country.

Again, its never too late.

virginmonkey
April 28th, 2011, 11:30 PM
With regard to the ecclesiastical heritage such as the Church, I can only cross my fingers that Archbishop Lagdameo's team for Cultural Heritage of the Church would be responsible enough to retain most of the aspects of the their churches...and not overly-modifying it as according to the whims of some of the parish priest.

I can still remember the "heated exchange" between NCCA/NHI (NHCP today) and Monsignor Sale in Miag-ao Church due to the construction of the sacristy
behind the church. It alarmed the state officials as it may have been a ticket of de-listing Miag-ao Church from the UNESCO World Heritage Site. Since it is also declared as a national historical treasure/site, the state has the right to intervene in "what ons" at Miag-ao Church.

The cemeteries, by the way, are one of our best cultural assets that we have. I applaud the San Joaquin Municipal Government and its people in restoring and maintaining the Camposanto and the old cemetery itself. Janiuay on the other hand is a big dissapointment--as if it is not properly taken care of despite having its claim as "one of the most beautiful cemeteries" in the country.

Again, its never too late.

Thank you! I know Pag-asa is alive!!!

eli.eli
April 28th, 2011, 11:35 PM
Hi! I just want to share my Iloilo City photo taken last night..
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I had it reduced so it wont take much space..:)^^

habagatcentral1
April 29th, 2011, 12:40 AM
LAPSUS CALAMI | Panay News (http://panaynewsphilippines.com/lapsus%20calami.htm)

PAVIA NO. 1 IN GOOD GOVERNANCE
THE National Statistical Coordination Board recently named the Top Municipalities in Western Visayas with the highest “Good Governance Index.”
Pavia topped the list in the province of Iloilo.
Out of 117 towns in the region, Pavia is ranked No. 3 – after Malay, Aklan and Pulupandan, Negros Occidental.
Congrats to super Mayor Cadio Gorriceta!
Pavia is always a winner.
This is the result of hard work and honesty.
More power to the people of Pavia!

MEA CULPA
YESTERDAY, we wrote an item here that popular businessman Joe Santos donated two units of classroom buildings – one in Brgy. Lapuz and the other one in Brgy. Arevalo, Iloilo City – under the auspices of Aklat, Gabay, Aruga tungo sa Pag-angat at Pag-asa (AGAPP) Foundation Inc. headed by presidential sister Pinky Aquino-Abellada.
The correct fact is that Mr. Santos donated only one in Arevalo. The one in Lapuz is built by AGAPP itself.
We stand corrected.

P2 LESS AT TOTAL STATIONS
TOTAL gas stations all over Iloilo and other places in Panay will give P2 discount on all gas products tomorrow, Saturday, April 30.
All types of vehicles can avail themselves of the discount – the first time ever because it is part of the joyous celebration of Joe Santos’ birthday.
Joe, as he is popularly called by kith and kin, is 75 years old. But he looks 10 years younger than his age.
Kudos!

THE FAKE ‘EDWIN LACIERDA’
WE were hoodwinked by “Sec. Edwin Lacierda” yesterday when our Manila office urgently called us up to contact the “secretary.”
His cell phone number was 09163186956.
When we called him, he wanted us to introduce him to Alfonso Tan, Mayor Cadio Gorriceta, Gov. Art Defensor Sr., Gov. Alfredo Marañon Jr., Joe Santos, Henry Chusuey and Rommel Ynion.
He told us that he got their names in Panay News and in the Philippine Star, and that he wanted to talk to them about important matters.
“Sec. Edwin Lacierda” later called and asked for sponsorship for a tournament – the last prize of P10,000. We then began to suspect his shenanigans.
Later, Gov. Marañon called us up saying he checked with Malacañang and the latter told him that the person was a fake and there was no such tournament which the real Sec. Lacierda is involved with, and that the latter is not asking for any donation from the public.
We were really innocent, and we’re so sorry that we subjected friends to so much trouble.
There are many con men, tricksters, swindlers and assholes in our midst nowadays. Beware!

BOARD DEMY SONZA
BOARD Member Demy Sonza of the Iloilo Provincial Board is tasked to introduce the keynote speaker during the 30th Anniversary of Panay News tomorrow, Saturday, at 6 p.m., Sarabia Manor Hotel and Convention Center, Iloilo City.
A highly recognized historian and book author, Demy has written about 20 books on history and social sciences, excluding scores of articles that enrich our local and national history.
He will introduce keynote speaker Gov. Arthur Defensor Sr., another brilliant and quintessential Ilonggo, during the evening program.

PLUNDER CASE TO PUSH THROUGH
AFTER our banner headline yesterday that Rommel Ynion is set to file plunder charges against Cong. Jerry, Mayor Jed, contractor FF Cruz and other officials involved in the highly overpriced and anomalous P710-million new Iloilo City Hall, this corner has received ambivalent reactions.
Many said they are happy that somebody courageous and civic-minded is protecting public interest as it is a vital moral crusade.
A few of them are doubtful that Ynion can finish his mission to expose the alleged shenanigans.
Well, what we know is that Rommel is a man who does not promise anything he cannot fulfill.
As sure as the sun rises, he means what he says.
Abangan ang mga susunod na kabanata!

:D

JollyGypsy
April 29th, 2011, 12:56 AM
Ilonggo tops Chemical Engineering board exam

ILOILO CITY, April 28 (PNA) - Economic deprivation has failed to dampen a poor, young man's desire to free himself from the shackles of poverty.

Twenty-two-year-old Luther Tabano from the town of Zarraga, in the province of Iloilo has proved that indeed his character is tough as bricks and hard as nails when he emerged first overall in the recent Chemical Engineering Board Examinations given by the Professional Regulation Commission (PRC).

Tabano, whose parents tend a small farm in Barangay Dawis confessed that even as a child he knew that his family was severely impoverished, hardly able to make ends meet.

But the economic hardships he suffered early in life became the driving force behind his unflagging resolve to conquer poverty, goading him to work hard as a student at the University of the Philippines in Diliman, Quezon City.

And finally, in a fitting recognition of his dogged efforts to rise from obscurity, Tabano bested 157 others in the Chemical Engineering Board Examinations with a rating of 84.60 percent.

Indeed, the young and the destitute Filipinos can draw inspiration from Luther Tabano, the humble, country boy from rural Iloilo. (PNA (http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=&nid=2&rid=343414))
LAP/ELTorrecampo/vlo

^^
Kudus! May your TRIBE increase! :applause:

I dunno you Luther Tabano, BUT I am so PROUD of you, young man! Ikaw ang ROLE MODEL sang mga batan-on nga nagatinghuha nga mapauswag ang pangabuhi sa pala-abuton!!!!!! From rugs to riches ikaw Luther! Keep up a good work! GOD bless, and Mabuhay ka! ;):cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

maurosomodio
April 29th, 2011, 01:06 AM
Good morning, ga enjoy guid ako basa sang mga developments dira...kag manami guid kay ang mga Ilonggo sa bilog nga kalibutan, nagahatag guid input sa buasdamlag sang aton banwa. Mau ini Brisbane, Australia.

virginmonkey
April 29th, 2011, 01:09 AM
Hope that some of our youths are also reading the SCC Iloilo thread. . . because they'll also be inspired and motivated!!!

Kaltehitze
April 29th, 2011, 01:16 AM
LAPSUS CALAMI | Panay News (http://panaynewsphilippines.com/lapsus%20calami.htm)

THE FAKE ‘EDWIN LACIERDA’
WE were hoodwinked by “Sec. Edwin Lacierda” yesterday when our Manila office urgently called us up to contact the “secretary.”
His cell phone number was 09163186956.
When we called him, he wanted us to introduce him to Alfonso Tan, Mayor Cadio Gorriceta, Gov. Art Defensor Sr., Gov. Alfredo Marañon Jr., Joe Santos, Henry Chusuey and Rommel Ynion.
He told us that he got their names in Panay News and in the Philippine Star, and that he wanted to talk to them about important matters.
“Sec. Edwin Lacierda” later called and asked for sponsorship for a tournament – the last prize of P10,000. We then began to suspect his shenanigans.
Later, Gov. Marañon called us up saying he checked with Malacañang and the latter told him that the person was a fake and there was no such tournament which the real Sec. Lacierda is involved with, and that the latter is not asking for any donation from the public.
We were really innocent, and we’re so sorry that we subjected friends to so much trouble.
There are many con men, tricksters, swindlers and assholes in our midst nowadays. Beware!

Red highlighted part: Nan! Kay man, ma pa sipsip pa tani si Danny Fajardo kay lacierda. Waay ya gid gin background check sa mga contacts nya sa manila. Minango gid tuod kag gullible si DF ah. I will never buy panay news again. I'll stick to the Daily Guardian if this is the case.

Blue Highlighted part: Assholes? Wow, this is very professional for a newspaper. Kids who may happen to read this particular column would take the wrong idea that it is alright to use profanity. Way to go Danny Fajardo, that was very responsible journalism.


LAPSUS CALAMI | Panay News (http://panaynewsphilippines.com/lapsus%20calami.htm)
PLUNDER CASE TO PUSH THROUGH
AFTER our banner headline yesterday that Rommel Ynion is set to file plunder charges against Cong. Jerry, Mayor Jed, contractor FF Cruz and other officials involved in the highly overpriced and anomalous P710-million new Iloilo City Hall, this corner has received ambivalent reactions.
Many said they are happy that somebody courageous and civic-minded is protecting public interest as it is a vital moral crusade.
A few of them are doubtful that Ynion can finish his mission to expose the alleged shenanigans.
Well, what we know is that Rommel is a man who does not promise anything he cannot fulfill.
As sure as the sun rises, he means what he says.
Abangan ang mga susunod na kabanata!

:D

Danny Fajardo can kiss my ass! Ay, waay ako gali sang inugbayad sa iya na SUV, luxury car or rolex watch man lang. Maybe someday ah, kung may kwarta ako, hatagan ko sya sang damo nga salakyan para man na ma sulat man siya sang nagmi nga article sa akon, or sa aton tanan sa SSC-Iloilo, hehehe....

JollyGypsy
April 29th, 2011, 01:17 AM
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/58402_149232268441522_100000642486492_309590_8032526_n.jpg

Man amo guid ini ang naga-PALAW-AY ka ciudad kang ILOILO, ang PECO's NASTY WIRINGS! Daw naga-ugtas ako sang sale ka tulok. San-o pa ini ayhan maresolbar man???!!:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

Kaltehitze
April 29th, 2011, 01:20 AM
Good morning, ga enjoy guid ako basa sang mga developments dira...kag manami guid kay ang mga Ilonggo sa bilog nga kalibutan, nagahatag guid input sa buasdamlag sang aton banwa. Mau ini Brisbane, Australia.

Welcome to SSC-Iloilo sir! Mankot lang ah, kung si metro iloilo pa, informal survey, sa diin ka based subong and ano ang nature or field sang work mo? =)

JollyGypsy
April 29th, 2011, 01:23 AM
^^inde lang man na da totally iya ka PECO ah... those wires nga may mga box belongs sa isa ka telephone company. not only those telcos add to the mess pati man ang mga cable tv companies... ang iya di gani ka Sky cable nga linya sa tubang balay namon daw pwede na pakabitan sg hinalay kay ga loyloy na gid ya. :bash:

another bad practice of these companies is that, once madisconnect na ang subscriber nila bay-an na lang da nila ang linya as if bwas mapa-reconnect liwat ang subscriber.. matuigan lang ga dugang lang nga gadugang ang wires kay man mga matamad ila lineman mangkakas.

Sa ikauunlad ng ating bayan, kooperasyon ang kailangan! Attention: PECO, CABLE STAR, AT&T nga kon mahimo TADLUNGON MAN NINYO ANG INYO NGA MGA "PANSIT" NGA NAGAWAGAYWAY SA KALANGITAN KAY KAHIGKO GUID KATAMA LANTAWON! SALAMAT GUID SA WALA PA!:ohno::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

Kaltehitze
April 29th, 2011, 01:26 AM
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/38971_140128722685210_100000642486492_261182_844191_n.jpg

This is probably the only police station in the philippines that can be a tourist attraction due to its (1)age, (2)architecture and (3)historical importance

1. Built in the 1920's if i'm no mistaken

2. Art Deco design, prevalent during the american colonial era

3. Formerly the municipal hall of Jaro city.

METROPOLITAN_ILOILO
April 29th, 2011, 01:29 AM
Good morning, ga enjoy guid ako basa sang mga developments dira...kag manami guid kay ang mga Ilonggo sa bilog nga kalibutan, nagahatag guid input sa buasdamlag sang aton banwa. Mau ini Brisbane, Australia.

^^
Wew! Nong Mauro, welcome to SSC Iloilo! I'm glad you joined us here, finally! :yes:

@Kalte, based ni sya sa Australia, upod ni sya namon sa Dinagyang Forum since 2006. :)

I think damo ka di ma-contribute Nong Mau. Padayon ta di. Feel free to share your POVs, sentiments and suggestions for our beloved City & Province. :okay:

Any plans for Dinagyang 2012? :D

JollyGypsy
April 29th, 2011, 01:30 AM
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/59291_148212375210178_100000642486492_304998_4308820_n.jpg

Ti kita mo lang ini! Dawsa kanami mang UTOD kamot ah! Dapat ang madakpan, ipadilap guid ining graffitti sa kon sin-o man da sa ila hasta nga maglipiyo ang ila nga guin vandal da sa wall!:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

virginmonkey
April 29th, 2011, 01:59 AM
This is probably the only police station in the philippines that can be a tourist attraction due to its (1)age, (2)architecture and (3)historical importance

1. Built in the 1920's if i'm no mistaken

2. Art Deco design, prevalent during the american colonial era

3. Formerly the municipal hall of Jaro city.

Tapos ang sa likod sini kag ang nagakoridas nga balay dira, di ko kabalo sang kalye, Democracia? mga heritage structures man. Bisan gani ang sa atubang sang public health clinic, heritage structure man gali.

Ang sa Lapaz, ang maternity clinic and hospital ara pa? Old structure man ina sya, daw amo na sya ang counterpart sang sa Jaro.

Kaltehitze
April 29th, 2011, 02:06 AM
Nice ready to go...('',)

Hi everyone! ('',) been here since 2009 sadya2x lang basa basa... add nyo lang ko da sa group ah! I've been talking a lot of Iloilo when i was in the U.S., shared pix and they got inlove with our beautiful city. Nxt yr some of my American friends and classmates will be visiting our beloved Iloilo, just in time nga damo na development cgurado. ('',)

Thanks readytogo...enjoy enjoy gani..('',) Boss ko si Ma'am El gani ga enjoy man basa ka thread.. From time to time na update namon si Sen Frank re development sang Iloilo City. Brother sang boss ko bi si Sen and 1st cousin nila si mayor jed.... Panami-on nya gid and Iloilo amo na bati-an ko permi sa ila talk...('',) Kaya Iloilo city-Its your time to shine... Exited na si Sir Frank Balik sa Pinas From Panama cgurado attend guid ko sa meeting nila re Iloilo river this may. Sin o gusto ma upod?

Metropolitan Iloilo Thanks man ('',)

@ Metropolitan Iloilo - Yeah! that would be great ('',) I could do that and sure he'll be glad reading it too. Ya'll guys could make it formal recommendations and i'll hand it in to my Boss. Para mahatag nya sa Bro nya. I bet that would be a great idea then... ('',) just see my office then pag ready na papers..Pakilala taka dayon sa boss ko.

('',)

('',) nice idea Metro... i like it!..A1..and im glad to be of help. aton naguid ni! ('',) Just introduce me to the group then, so that when the superb docs for recommendation/presentation for the big man is ready then and then ill get through...

^^
Okay then! Its a deal. ;):okay:

Calling ALL SSC ILOILO FORUMERS! Now is the time for our IDEAS, VISIONS, DREAMS, SENTIMENTS, SUGGESTIONS & RECOMMENDATIONS to be heard. :

Just post it here in our THREAD: Make sure you PUT a TITLE on top with these WORDS: For Submission (check above example)

We only have 24-72 hours to do this starting tomorrow. Go go go! :D

Op, daw mayo haw. Welcome to the thread pre mark anthony!

Baw, daw ka nami mag undergo internship kay Big Frank ba, para mas ma facilitate ang mga ideas, perspectives and solutions sang mga Forumers diri. I mean, you know, pwede ko ka himo memo summarizing the ideas and solutions proposed by the members of this forum, to big frank mismo. Isa pa, I've prior experience with another senator, internship man ato, mga one month.

At any rate, pre anthony, mangkot lang ako, is big frank aware of the existence of this forum?

maurosomodio
April 29th, 2011, 02:10 AM
^^
Wew! Nong Mauro, welcome to SSC Iloilo! I'm glad you joined us here, finally! :yes:

@Kalte, based ni sya sa Australia, upod ni sya namon sa Dinagyang Forum since 2006. :)

I think damo ka di ma-contribute Nong Mau. Padayon ta di. Feel free to share your POVs, sentiments and suggestions for our beloved City & Province. :okay:

Any plans for Dinagyang 2012? :D

Noy, good morning, ma-final search na kami sang G/Bb Australia 2011, sa July 2, 2011. Ang madaog sini, amo na ang malakat sa Iloilo, sa Dinagyang 2012. Ready na ang Head sang delegations sa 2012, taga Baguio ini sia, kag first time nila makadto sa Iloilo. We are looking for Guimaras Island as the extension of the 2012 delegations to spend the rest of their holidays. Subong pa lang ga booking na kami sang ila airline tickets. Ang mga finalists sadya kay halos may mga Ilonggo blood, Ang Western Australia, San Carlos City, Victoria, Bacolod City, NSW, Capiz, Qld, South Cotabato, pamilya halin man sa Iloilo. Anyhow...let the judges do their job ...Kumusta lang sa tanan Metro... Pasyal pasyali nio man ang www.dinagyang.com

virginmonkey
April 29th, 2011, 02:14 AM
Op, daw mayo haw. Welcome to the thread pre mark anthony!

Baw, daw ka nami mag undergo internship kay Big Frank ba, para mas ma facilitate ang mga ideas, perspectives and solutions sang mga Forumers diri. I mean, you know, pwede ko ka himo memo summarizing the ideas and solutions proposed by the members of this forum, to big frank mismo. Isa pa, I've prior experience with another senator, internship man ato, mga one month.

At any rate, pre anthony, mangkot lang ako, is big frank aware of the existence of this forum?

Yes, good idea. Kay daw nalipat na ko sang ako mga ideas kon kis-a. . . he he he. . . there are soooooooo. . . . many good ideas here!!! :applause::applause::applause:

Kung pwede mo pa i-append and pics ni Hawili, the better!!!

Kaltehitze
April 29th, 2011, 02:22 AM
^^:lol::lol::lol: hayz! liwat2x tuod aton di discussion, it's becoming a broken record.


^^Left behind? Lantawa subong Iloilo kag bacolod. Sino ang left behind?
answer: Iloilo City

^^ok this is what I've got to say to you, let two cities compliment each other for a greater Western Visayas...nan may e commentar ka pa da hehehe:lol::lol::lol:

-end-


Assuming left behind gid man ang iloilo, ti, indi gid ya gali pwede mag rise up? Kilanlan gid kita ya punggan?

Ga himakas man ta diri na mag uswag ang iloilo city pero gina suyaan kag gina kadlawan nila ang developments ta diri, na kuno fake ang mga developments ta diri (ang megaworld ya? fake, ang injap tower? fake, ang iloilo boulevard? fake), pati si SUV11 nag wish pa gani na ma bagyohan kag maglinog sa iloilo para maguba ang cuidad ta. Ti, ano na lang na abi?

Kung indi ina dinalok kag mapintas na pinamatasan, I don't know what is. Probably na anad na sila guro mag abuso kag magpamintas sa ila na mga sacada didto that is why pati kita pintasan man. Ti indi gid ya gali ya gali pwede mag uswag ang iloilo just because na nag stagnant and nag deteriorate sang una? so dapat gali ma remain na lang na stagnant? Indi ayhan batasan ina sang isa ka kasag?

Kilanlan gid kita lasakon para magtinir sa dalum? para ila na lang tanan?

virginmonkey
April 29th, 2011, 02:32 AM
Assuming left behind gid man ang iloilo, ti, indi gid ya gali pwede mag rise up? Kilanlan gid kita ya punggan?

Ga himakas man ta diri na mag uswag ang iloilo city pero gina suyaan kag gina kadlawan nila ang developments ta diri, na kuno fake ang mga developments ta diri (ang megaworld ya? fake, ang injap tower? fake, ang iloilo boulevard? fake), pati si SUV11 nag wish pa gani na ma bagyohan kag maglinog sa iloilo para maguba ang cuidad ta. Ti, ano na lang na abi?

Kung indi ina dinalok kag mapintas na pinamatasan, I don't know what is. Probably na anad na sila guro mag abuso kag magpamintas sa ila na mga sacada didto that is why pati kita pintasan man. Ti indi gid ya gali ya gali pwede mag uswag ang iloilo just because na nag stagnant and nag deteriorate sang una? so dapat gali ma remain na lang na stagnant? Indi ayhan batasan ina sang isa ka kasag?

Kilanlan gid kita lasakon para magtinir sa dalum? para ila na lang tanan?

Bay-i na lang ina, palasaka na lang sila sang gusto nila. . . crab eh!!! he he he. . . And don't they know nga ang mga officials sang city kag ang iban pa nagabasa sang thread naton? Wla sila kabalo nga sa paglasak ila, these officials will strive more to bring progress to the city? Kaya okey lang. . . he he he. . . palasak lang sila ah! kadlaw lang kita ya kag mag-enjoy sa thread naton. . . cheers!!!:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:

Kaltehitze
April 29th, 2011, 02:33 AM
Man amo guid ini ang naga-PALAW-AY ka ciudad kang ILOILO, ang PECO's NASTY WIRINGS! Daw naga-ugtas ako sang sale ka tulok. San-o pa ini ayhan maresolbar man???!!:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

I suggest, pinatahan na lang na ang mga wirings in the same color sa mga buildings na kung sa diin ini ga latay para mag blend or mag camouflage. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

^^
Wew! Nong Mauro, welcome to SSC Iloilo! I'm glad you joined us here, finally! :yes:

@Kalte, based ni sya sa Australia, upod ni sya namon sa Dinagyang Forum since 2006. :)

I think damo ka di ma-contribute Nong Mau. Padayon ta di. Feel free to share your POVs, sentiments and suggestions for our beloved City & Province. :okay:

Any plans for Dinagyang 2012? :D
Thanks for the heads up metro

Tapos ang sa likod sini kag ang nagakoridas nga balay dira, di ko kabalo sang kalye, Democracia? mga heritage structures man. Bisan gani ang sa atubang sang public health clinic, heritage structure man gali.

Ang sa Lapaz, ang maternity clinic and hospital ara pa? Old structure man ina sya, daw amo na sya ang counterpart sang sa Jaro.

Gani, damo gid da sa area nga ina. Pwede mahimo complex.

Yes, good idea. Kay daw nalipat na ko sang ako mga ideas kon kis-a. . . he he he. . . there are soooooooo. . . . many good ideas here!!! :applause::applause::applause:

Kung pwede mo pa i-append and pics ni Hawili, the better!!!

Yup, plus, ang mga illustrations na ronie (nice one pre!) and zynet, nami to sang mga illustrations nila, gives you a bird's eye view of what a particular area will look like kung ma butangan bridge or ma reclaim ang duta. And Hawili's (also that of zynet, steadyasweroll,bernie, ken_7, lewdsaint and haldir) pics can provide perspectives on the ground.

Nami gid tani kung maka internship didto kay big frank ah. Pwede kita mahimo ni sen. frank na daan na focus group. And I don't think that we lacking in qualifications, sa manila based SSC-Iloilo pa lang, damo na: rapuy's expertise is energy and power generation, oboi: business, True blue and metro: medical and health care, Bernie: history and heritage conservation, ralp fiennes: semiconductors, etc and damo pa ah...

Isa pa, an intern can be an additional manpower but without the additional cost, for the senator, kay waay man sang bayad ang intern. tinapay lang. :lol:

lewdsaint
April 29th, 2011, 02:38 AM
Good morning, ga enjoy guid ako basa sang mga developments dira...kag manami guid kay ang mga Ilonggo sa bilog nga kalibutan, nagahatag guid input sa buasdamlag sang aton banwa. Mau ini Brisbane, Australia.


Nice to see you here, Nong Mau.

Nakaintra ka gid man diri sa amon bah...kalabanan diri member man sang dinagyang.com.

Madamo ka diri masagap nga mga balita parte sa Iloilo.

virginmonkey
April 29th, 2011, 02:52 AM
I suggest, pinatahan na lang na ang mga wirings in the same color sa mga buildings na kung sa diin ini ga latay para mag blend or mag camouflage. :lol::lol::lol::lol:


Thanks for the heads up metro



Gani, damo gid da sa area nga ina. Pwede mahimo complex.



Yup, plus, ang mga illustrations na ronie (nice one pre!) and zynet, nami to sang mga illustrations nila, gives you a bird's eye view of what a particular area will look like kung ma butangan bridge or ma reclaim ang duta. And Hawili's (also that of zynet, steadyasweroll,bernie, ken_7, lewdsaint and haldir) pics can provide perspectives on the ground.

Nami gid tani kung maka internship didto kay big frank ah. Pwede kita mahimo ni sen. frank na daan na focus group. And I don't think that we lacking in qualifications, sa manila based SSC-Iloilo pa lang, damo na: rapuy's expertise is energy and power generation, oboi: business, True blue and metro: medical and health care, Bernie: history and heritage conservation, ralp fiennes: semiconductors, etc and damo pa ah...

Isa pa, an intern can be an additional manpower but without the additional cost, for the senator, kay waay man sang bayad ang intern. tinapay lang. :lol:

You see completo!!! And my observation, they think, act and talk professionally!!! They are true professionals!!! honestly and modesty aside. . . upod ka na da!!!

angelkirk89
April 29th, 2011, 03:05 AM
:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts: oooppppsssss

Please avoid na lang naton quoting from the other thread....madugang lang na sa gamo...kag maskin mag lumpat pa kita sa babaw Iloilo Business Hotel, waay man na gihapon ma change sa ila panumduman about sa Iloilo..so be it na lang...chill lang ta ya...:lol:...peace...:)

Good morning, ga enjoy guid ako basa sang mga developments dira...kag manami guid kay ang mga Ilonggo sa bilog nga kalibutan, nagahatag guid input sa buasdamlag sang aton banwa. Mau ini Brisbane, Australia.

Welcome to SSC Iloilo Nong Mau, lurker gid ako sa Dinagyang up to now especially sa CPU thread...Anyway, Good Luck sa CPU Global Grand Reunion 2012 sa Australia ...:)

itlogo
April 29th, 2011, 03:09 AM
^^very busy kay dira man daan ang mga dulungkaan sg mga aswang kuno... later ko na lang ya gle na figure out nga ang mga aswang gle ya nga natumod nila dira are those GROs and sex workers nga gatabok2 via dumangas, gaabot by night then larga naman at the break of dawn via RORO. :lol:

toud ni? hala, mahilig ko bala mag byahe sa kaagahon, kung maka puli ko liwat manilag ko bala, para may angkason man ko. hehehe

4threich
April 29th, 2011, 03:18 AM
toud ni? hala, mahilig ko bala mag byahe sa kaagahon, kung maka puli ko liwat manilag ko bala, para may angkason man ko. hehehe

kon sipat imo ilong pre mapanimahoan mo gid na sila. hhha

blueguy
April 29th, 2011, 03:24 AM
^^

mga migo indi kingahanglan mag quote pan diri halin sa piyak nga thread... anyway be confident lang that our city will always be the city we wanted it to be...

it's just normal for one to be defensive about their locality--- ika nga pride of place....

what's important is that the stores that recently opened in our city are doing very well beyond expectations....simply shows that there is really a market for these brands. That is why a lot are following suit. And we will be expecting expansions in the near future if business is doing well...

itlogo
April 29th, 2011, 03:25 AM
Kaw naman!!! he he he. . . I said "other cities" naman eh!!! BTW, who holds it? Ignoramus ako. . . sorry!!! Alam ko Vigan lang and I'm not even sure of Cebu. TY

Ha ha ha. . . "Sorry sir guba amon keyboard!" There's always an alternative. . . indi lang naman isa ang computer sa office nila, di ba?

daw may onscreen keyboard man? IT man bala sila? wala options haw?

jayjay6100
April 29th, 2011, 03:31 AM
Wahahahahhahaaha Kalo-oy man sa LiLo no Kay ginalasak pa gid suno sa IMO.Recall mo Lang ang ginhimo sang taga LILO sang Wala pa nag uswag ang Bacolod Kay grabe nga pagput down,paglasak kag pagpakita nga kamo gid ang superior.Anu expect mo ang balik mangirit Lang kag mayuhum-yuhum.Wahahahahaha Think,Think kag Think pa gid.WahahahahahahaAssuming left behind gid man ang iloilo, ti, indi gid ya gali pwede mag rise up? Kilanlan gid kita ya punggan?

Ga himakas man ta diri na mag uswag ang iloilo city pero gina suyaan kag gina kadlawan nila ang developments ta diri, na kuno fake ang mga developments ta diri (ang megaworld ya? fake, ang injap tower? fake, ang iloilo boulevard? fake), pati si SUV11 nag wish pa gani na ma bagyohan kag maglinog sa iloilo para maguba ang cuidad ta. Ti, ano na lang na abi?

Kung indi ina dinalok kag mapintas na pinamatasan, I don't know what is. Probably na anad na sila guro mag abuso kag magpamintas sa ila na mga sacada didto that is why pati kita pintasan man. Ti indi gid ya gali ya gali pwede mag uswag ang iloilo just because na nag stagnant and nag deteriorate sang una? so dapat gali ma remain na lang na stagnant? Indi ayhan batasan ina sang isa ka kasag?

Kilanlan gid kita lasakon para magtinir sa dalum? para ila na lang tanan?

habagatcentral1
April 29th, 2011, 03:37 AM
So the public may know (http://www.iloilonewstoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1308:so-the-public-may-know&catid=98:local-news)
By Mayor Jed Patrick Mabilog

The volume of prose that appeared in the local dailies over the last few days imputing wrongdoing in erecting an allegedly grossly overpriced and anomalous New Iloilo City Hall made me think that perhaps people do not have a clear knowledge of the total picture. Perhaps, I have not fully explained, and confused people the difference of a credit line from a loan. What the city government got from Land Bank of the Philippines was actually a P710-million credit line and so far a P193.87 million loan for the construction of the New City Hall building.

I do not want the people to start believing the New Iloilo City Hall undertaking is fraught with irregularity so, to set the record straight, I would like to make crystal the prominent points of the project.

It would be best to start from the beginning for everyone’s edification.
First, the construction of the eight-storey edifice went through a transparent bidding during the term of then Mayor now Congressman Jerry P. Treñas. Four firms competed to take on the project but, eventually, the P368 million bid of the FF Cruz Corporation, which is the lowest tender, prevailed.

Before the bidding, the city government applied for and got a P455-million credit line from the Landbank precisely to be used for the construction.

Second, the P368-million FF Cruz Corporation bid covers practically everything that can be seen in the picture design of the building placed in front of the construction site. However, the P368 million does not include office furniture and furnishing, air-conditioning, and without the usual niceties you would expect from a modern structure. The building will also be painted inside out, will have lights and have vinyl tiles for floors. The P368 million bid also misses the generator, transformer, cafeteria, among others.

Third, the P368 million would be for an eight-storey building with a floor area of 14,481.66 square meters that would translate to a cost of P25,411.45 per square meter. This means that the amount would fall within the price range of other buildings constructed in the city.

Fourth, initially there was a P455-million credit line that was applied by the city government and approved, from Landbank. This amount is a credit facility that remained at the bank to be used ONLY for the intended project, so no City Hall official – appointed or elected – is able to dip his or her hands into the fund.

Fifth, of the P368 million project cost, only P193.87 million net (taxes were withheld by the city government) has so far been paid by the city government to the winning contractor. Let me elaborate on this. The city pays the contractor on a progressive billing. On completing a construction phase, FF Cruz Corporation presents a bill and Landbank issues a credit memo to the City Treasurer who then disburses a check payment to the contractor only AFTER inspection of the technical representatives from Landbank, Commission on Audit, and the city government for the veracity of the work (based on specifications) done.

The P193.87 million already paid by the city to the contractor are as follows:



Advance payment June 1, 2010 – P54,924,000.00 net
Advance payment June 1, 2010 – P276,000.00 net
1st Progress Billing October 13, 2010 – P57,172,180.89 net
2nd Progress Billing November 10, 2010 – P16,517,504.03 net
3rd Progress Billing (received December 6, 2010) – P5,549, 950.34 net
4th Progress Billing (received February 7, 2011) – P22,065,778.77 net
5th Progress Billing (received March 11, 2011) - P37,512,496.69 net

Sixth, since only P368 million will be loaned from the P455 million Landbank credit line, what happens to the remaining P87 million? Ten per cent of this amount is reserved for variation and change order. The rest of the amount is for construction contingencies. If there are no contingencies, then the amount is not drawn at all.

Seventh, the issue on the absence of or lack of easement or setback area of the new building raised by some quarters is no issue at all. The Iloilo City Zoning Board of Adjustment and Appeals passed Resolution No. 92, Series of 2009 granting exception on the setback requirement to the city government on the proposed New City Hall Building.

Now, let’s tackle the matter relevant to the extra P260 million as an additional credit line from Landbank. The amount will be used to purchase those that are not included in the P368 million New City Hall building. This is to ensure that our new building be fitting seat of government for a vigorously burgeoning and flourishing city like ours.

The additional credit line, already authorized and confirmed by the honorable members of the Sangguniang Panlungsod, is intended for office equipment, office furniture, generators, additional elevators, airconditioning system, fire exits, modular system furniture, power cables, distribution transformers, voice and data system, unlimited power supply, server rooms, fire suppression system, pumps, motors, pressure tanks, CCTV camera, two additional passenger elevators, cafeteria space, roll-up blinds, replacement of vinyl tiles to ceramic tiles, dental chairs and examination beds, storage rooms, sanitary plumbing/works, vault, solar panels, drainage outfall, insulation, and others. We intend to procure reasonably-priced quality equipment and the acquisition process will be transparent and will strictly adhere to COA standards and procedures.

Because of our desire to inaugurate the building come August 25, 2011, we ensured the standby loan of additional P260 million from Landbank to be available the soonest possible time needed for the additional purchases. Like the P455 million credit line, the total actual purchases maybe less than the total amount loaned. In this case, the excess amount shall not be drawn from the bank.

The New City Hall building will also self-liquidate and hopefully pay for itself in 25 to 30 years time because half of the ground floor of the new edifice will be leased. The entire third floor of the building, originally designed as the parking area, will also be rented out. As so with the cafeteria-food court, all three with a total estimated floor area of 3,000 square meters, will be let to national government regional offices and food concessionaires.

The income to be generated by the new building gives me the confidence that our investment does not burden our local taxpayers. Instead, two or so decades from now, hopefully the New City Hall will have paid for itself.

With the entire third floor on lease, the designated City Hall parking area will temporarily be at Ortiz Street between the New City Hall and the old Kerr & Company property.

I would like to assure everyone that our administration is meticulously complying with Republic Act 9184 or the Government Procurement Act as well as COA rules and regulations with regards to all transactions and procurements involving the New Iloilo City Hall Building.

The city government has many plans to fulfill, and most of them are contrived to make Iloilo City a place where everyone will love to be at. Our dream is not to sink our beloved city in the morass of debt. Our dream includes everyone and this dream is all about making Iloilo City THE place to live, THE place to work, THE place to be, THE place we all could be proud of.

We work for the Total Transparency of this project from the beginning of our term, and we will continue to do this till the end of our three-year term.

And with your help, we can make this dream a reality sooner than we think. Dakbanwa sang Iloilo, Bugal ko! My City, My Pride!*
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The irony is, where was this published? [URL="http://www.iloilonewstoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1308%3Aso-the-public-may-know&catid=98%3Alocal-news"]Click here to know (http://www.iloilonewstoday.com/)....:D

lewdsaint
April 29th, 2011, 03:38 AM
Hayag nga ginapakita mo ang imo nga batasan diri. Kaluoy man sa imo.:ohno:

Hope na wala may mapatol sa post mo.


Wahahahahhahaaha Kalo-oy man sa LiLo no Kay ginalasak pa gid suno sa IMO.Recall mo Lang ang ginhimo sang taga LILO sang Wala pa nag uswag ang Bacolod Kay grabe nga pagput down,paglasak kag pagpakita nga kamo gid ang superior.Anu expect mo ang balik mangirit Lang kag mayuhum-yuhum.Wahahahahaha Think,Think kag Think pa gid.Wahahahahahaha

Hawili Hurom
April 29th, 2011, 03:42 AM
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http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/39686_141144849250264_100000642486492_266478_2933325_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/38645_141144342583648_100000642486492_266476_158211_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/40082_141143902583692_100000642486492_266475_6909632_n.jpg

lewdsaint
April 29th, 2011, 03:44 AM
Nakayuhum man ko ba! Daw indi ko magpati. Si JPT man lang siguro ang kontra nya. lol!

The irony is, where was this published? Click here to know (http://www.iloilonewstoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1308%3Aso-the-public-may-know&catid=98%3Alocal-news)....:D

Hawili Hurom
April 29th, 2011, 03:44 AM
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/40517_141143572583725_100000642486492_266472_3744650_n.jpg

4threich
April 29th, 2011, 03:44 AM
The irony is, where was this published? Click here to know (http://www.iloilonewstoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1308%3Aso-the-public-may-know&catid=98%3Alocal-news)....:D

the floors is yours Mr. Ynion, sir.

Hawili Hurom
April 29th, 2011, 03:48 AM
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/39101_140365129328236_100000642486492_262580_7009865_n.jpg

NA DEMOLISH NA INI?

habagatcentral1
April 29th, 2011, 03:50 AM
Nakayuhum man ko ba! Daw indi ko magpati. Si JPT man lang siguro ang kontra nya. lol!

the floors is yours Mr. Ynion, sir.
Kasadya sa Iloilo ba. May developments na, may telenovela political pa. News and entertainment all in one channel. :okay:
Ti, diin pa ta? :D

Hawili Hurom
April 29th, 2011, 03:50 AM
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/40636_140120809352668_100000642486492_261161_895901_n.jpg

Kaltehitze
April 29th, 2011, 03:51 AM
Wahahahahhahaaha Kalo-oy man sa LiLo no Kay ginalasak pa gid suno sa IMO.Recall mo Lang ang ginhimo sang taga LILO sang Wala pa nag uswag ang Bacolod Kay grabe nga pagput down,paglasak kag pagpakita nga kamo gid ang superior.Anu expect mo ang balik mangirit Lang kag mayuhum-yuhum.Wahahahahaha Think,Think kag Think pa gid.Wahahahahahaha

See? hambal ko gid eh. This is Bacolodnon-Negrense naga-lasak sa akon subong, an ilonggo. Precisely what I was talking about in my prior post, he just illustrated it mismo.

Bantayi nyo lang kay mang-lasak naman ini liwat. Lasak-lasakon nya gid ako asta sa kulang na lang, dupla-on nya ako para mapakita nya kung ano siya ka taas kag ano ako ka nubo.

Oh well, that's why ang mga sacada didto imol gyapon, ang manggaranon ga hamapang polo gamit ang kwarta halin sa income sang kalamay na gin pangabudlayan sang mga sacada na halin sa antique. That aristocratic behavior of laughing at us, pushing us down, taunting us, like what vajayjay (sang baboy) is doing to me right now is, will never change. That's what wealth does. Gotta live with it.

Anyway, moving on...

4threich
April 29th, 2011, 03:53 AM
Para Patas.. Article (http://www.iloilonewstoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1309:new-city-halls-upgrade-to-cost-p2945m&catid=98:local-news)

may ginaharumahum ako nga so called "expert" kon sin o ini..sus kaladlawan gid ni siya ya...

habagatcentral1
April 29th, 2011, 03:54 AM
See? hambal ko gid eh. This is Bacolodnon-Negrense naga-lasak sa akon subong, an ilonggo. Precisely what I was talking about in my prior post, he just illustrated it mismo.

Bantayi nyo lang kay mang-lasak naman ini liwat. Lasak-lasakon nya gid ako asta sa kulang na lang, dupla-on nya ako para mapakita nya kung ano siya ka taas kag ano ako ka nubo.

Oh well, that's why ang mga sacada didto imol gyapon, ang manggaranon ga hamapang polo gamit ang kwarta halin sa income sang kalamay na gin pangabudlayan sang mga sacada na halin sa antique. That aristocratic behavior of laughing at us, pushing us down, taunting us, like what vajayjay (sang baboy) is doing to me right now is, will never change. That's what wealth does. Gotta live with it.

Anyway, moving on...
I haven't met that kind of true hacendero by the way. You'll be surprised in who's the most down to earth people in their society. ;)

jayjay6100
April 29th, 2011, 03:54 AM
Bay-i na lang ina, palasaka na lang sila sang gusto nila. . . crab eh!!! he he he. . . And don't they know nga ang mga officials sang city kag ang iban pa nagabasa sang thread naton? Wla sila kabalo nga sa paglasak ila, these officials will strive more to bring progress to the city? Kaya okey lang. . . he he he. . . palasak lang sila ah! kadlaw lang kita ya kag mag-enjoy sa thread naton. . . cheers!!!:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:

And you belibid gid nga ginalasak sang Bacolod ang LILO?very foolish beat of your Thingking.Wahahahahahah Infacto go back to the rooting of all the happenings para ma intsindis de sitwisiones.Oki?!When ga start pa Lang magflourishneszzz Ang mga businesisezzzz sa Baycowload sin-o gaquestion sang mga creditbilities sa Bacolod,sin-o gapangita mga proofnessisezzzzzzz,sin-o gaharakhak sa mga ginadiscuss sa Baycowload and taranatantanan no other elsesesiszzzz kundi ang neighbor mismo,ang mga tags LILO.So who are the Kasag.wahahahahahahhahaah....haha!Sin-o ang Dalok-Dalok.Just look and see sa Panay,Ang distribution sang deves concentrate Lang sa LILO.Baycowload Kag the rest sang Negros Provinsya are working together thier azezzzzezizzz and the evident.Think and lookey lookey.Wahahahahahhaahhaah

habagatcentral1
April 29th, 2011, 03:56 AM
Para Patas.. Article (http://www.iloilonewstoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1309:new-city-halls-upgrade-to-cost-p2945m&catid=98:local-news)

may ginaharumahum ako nga so called "expert" kon sin o ini..sus kaladlawan gid ni siya ya...
Let me post it here...kabudlay subong magpost halin The News Today...

New city hall’s ‘upgrade’ to cost P294.5M (http://www.iloilonewstoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1309:new-city-halls-upgrade-to-cost-p2945m&catid=98:local-news)
By Junep Ocampo | The News Today

Contrary to earlier reports, the revisions that will be done to the new city hall will not cost P260 million but exactly P294,508,419.32 as recommended by a consultant hired by the city government.

A two-page document prepared by Conrado Goco of the Pacific-Orient Consultants and Management Company and approved by Iloilo City Mayor Jed Patrick Mabilog specified all the revisions in the ongoing construction of the city hall. It contains 30 items of varying degrees of importance, ranging from the creation of offices for future city officials, transfer of key offices from one floor to another, and many other things, including the seemingly less important purchase of roll-up blinds and ceramic floor tiles.

A major revision in the city hall as recommended in the list is the conversion of the whole third floor of the new city hall from a parking area into offices for two congressmen and four councilors. This is apparently in anticipation of the approval of the proposed law that will divide Iloilo City into two congressional districts.

The said change will cost, at a glance, a mere P4.2 million but this revision will leave the city with no parking space, hence the need to construct a parking building on the adjacent lot. The proposed parking building was labelled in the list as “on hold.”

COSMETIC UPGRADE

Looking into the list item-by-item, observers said many of its contents were merely “upgrade,” “cosmetic in nature” and “may not be totally necessary.”

“And for sure, even without these so-called upgrades, the city hall can start operating,” said one construction expert interviewed for this report.

One glaring example of the so-called cosmetic upgrades is the change in floor tiles from the original vinyl tiles to homogenous ceramic tiles. According to the document obtained by TNT, the city would be spending more than P15 million for the homogenous ceramic tiles. The document even noted that the executive offices would have “top of the line” tiles and the mayor’s office would have carpet tiles.

Another upgrade listed in the document is the seemingly trivial installation of roll-up blinds for all windows which will cost a far-from-trivial P11.1 million.

One glaring item in the document was the allocation of P55 million to upgrade the furnishing of the city hall into “modular system” with “seating system and lateral cabinets.”

“Obviously, whoever recommended that is more concerned over form rather than function,” said one observer who requested not to be named.

LESS PRIORITY

The new city hall is being constructed, first and foremost, for service. Hence, in the original plan, the city health office, senior citizens office, as well as the city hall library, have been placed on the ground floor, easily accessible to those who need them.

But in the proposed revisions, these very important facilities are now being transferred to the second floor to the tune of more than P12 million to give way for a “bank space” on the ground floor.

Mayor Mabilog, in a telephone interview earlier this week, said he intends to make the city hall “self-liquidating” through rental fees collected from concessionaires.

He did not mention about the bank on the ground floor but he said the entire eighth floor, which is the roof deck, will be used as a food court and rented out to local restaurants.

“This city hall will pay for itself in 25 years,” he said.

Mabilog did not say in the interview that he had approved more than P15 million to turn the roof deck into a “cafeteria with counter and seating system and provide additional areas for executive use, complete with folding wall partition.”

All along, he made it sound that the entire eighth floor would be retrofitted by concessionaires.

‘OVER, OVER’

Meanwhile, a couple of things listed in the proposed revisions were labelled as “over-over” by some experts.

One of these is the upgrade of the city hall’s closed-circuit television system (CCTV) to use pixel-type camera which would cost P4.5 million; the upgrade of the voice and data system for P16 million; and the proposal to buy an additional two elevators and to upgrade the original two at the cost of P13.85 million.

Mabilog earlier said the present city hall only generates foot traffic of 1,000 people a day. This number, according to one expert, can very well be serviced by two elevators.

One more thing the experts consider as “over-over” is the proposal to put storage racks in the storage room. In the document obtained by TNT, it was said that these racks would cost P8.7 million.

Another glaring item in the proposal was the allocation of P10.7 million for “movable furniture” for executive offices, meaning for the offices of the mayor, vice mayor and councilors.

“Over-over talaga ito,” one observer said.

NECESSARY BUT OVERPRICED?

Experts interviewed for this report said the recommendation to upgrade to an inverter type airconditioning system and provide pump motors and pressure tanks for water distribution are all necessary given the high cost of electricity and problematic water supply in the city.

Ditto with the upgrading of all lighting fixtures to T5 fluorescent lamps and the installation of solar panels as well as the upgrade of the power cable, distribution transformers and generator sets, which are definitely needed in anticipation of additional load.

However, spending P55.964 million for the upgrade to inverter-type aircon units; P9.696 million for water pumps and tanks; P2 million for T5 lighting upgrade; and P18.743 million for upgrade in power cables and gensets “look overpriced,” said these experts.

“We are really doubtful if these prices have been bid out to various suppliers,” they said.

On top of everything, the proposed “upgrades” in the city hall would cost the city another P9 million in fees to architects and engineers who would implement them.*

Kaltehitze
April 29th, 2011, 03:56 AM
The irony is, where was this published? Click here to know (http://www.iloilonewstoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1308%3Aso-the-public-may-know&catid=98%3Alocal-news)....:D

Kung waay ini sa Panay News....hm...does this mean that RY is much more credible as a publisher than DF of PN? And to think that the latter is a puppy of the former... hmm... :)

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/40517_141143572583725_100000642486492_266472_3744650_n.jpg

Heritage structure man ini berns?

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/39101_140365129328236_100000642486492_262580_7009865_n.jpg

NA DEMOLISH NA INI?
@zynet, may updated photos ka sini?

4threich
April 29th, 2011, 03:57 AM
Kasadya sa Iloilo ba. May developments na, may telenovela political pa. News and entertainment all in one channel. :okay:
Ti, diin pa ta? :D

it only shows that the system works, democracy is bright..politics is dynamic.

Kaltehitze
April 29th, 2011, 03:58 AM
Let me post it here...kabudlay subong magpost halin The News Today...

New city hall’s ‘upgrade’ to cost P294.5M (http://www.iloilonewstoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1309:new-city-halls-upgrade-to-cost-p2945m&catid=98:local-news)
By Junep Ocampo | The News Today

Contrary to earlier reports, the revisions that will be done to the new city hall will not cost P260 million but exactly P294,508,419.32 as recommended by a consultant hired by the city government.

A two-page document prepared by Conrado Goco of the Pacific-Orient Consultants and Management Company and approved by Iloilo City Mayor Jed Patrick Mabilog specified all the revisions in the ongoing construction of the city hall. It contains 30 items of varying degrees of importance, ranging from the creation of offices for future city officials, transfer of key offices from one floor to another, and many other things, including the seemingly less important purchase of roll-up blinds and ceramic floor tiles.

A major revision in the city hall as recommended in the list is the conversion of the whole third floor of the new city hall from a parking area into offices for two congressmen and four councilors. This is apparently in anticipation of the approval of the proposed law that will divide Iloilo City into two congressional districts.

The said change will cost, at a glance, a mere P4.2 million but this revision will leave the city with no parking space, hence the need to construct a parking building on the adjacent lot. The proposed parking building was labelled in the list as “on hold.”

COSMETIC UPGRADE

Looking into the list item-by-item, observers said many of its contents were merely “upgrade,” “cosmetic in nature” and “may not be totally necessary.”

“And for sure, even without these so-called upgrades, the city hall can start operating,” said one construction expert interviewed for this report.

One glaring example of the so-called cosmetic upgrades is the change in floor tiles from the original vinyl tiles to homogenous ceramic tiles. According to the document obtained by TNT, the city would be spending more than P15 million for the homogenous ceramic tiles. The document even noted that the executive offices would have “top of the line” tiles and the mayor’s office would have carpet tiles.

Another upgrade listed in the document is the seemingly trivial installation of roll-up blinds for all windows which will cost a far-from-trivial P11.1 million.

One glaring item in the document was the allocation of P55 million to upgrade the furnishing of the city hall into “modular system” with “seating system and lateral cabinets.”

“Obviously, whoever recommended that is more concerned over form rather than function,” said one observer who requested not to be named.

LESS PRIORITY

The new city hall is being constructed, first and foremost, for service. Hence, in the original plan, the city health office, senior citizens office, as well as the city hall library, have been placed on the ground floor, easily accessible to those who need them.

But in the proposed revisions, these very important facilities are now being transferred to the second floor to the tune of more than P12 million to give way for a “bank space” on the ground floor.

Mayor Mabilog, in a telephone interview earlier this week, said he intends to make the city hall “self-liquidating” through rental fees collected from concessionaires.

He did not mention about the bank on the ground floor but he said the entire eighth floor, which is the roof deck, will be used as a food court and rented out to local restaurants.

“This city hall will pay for itself in 25 years,” he said.

Mabilog did not say in the interview that he had approved more than P15 million to turn the roof deck into a “cafeteria with counter and seating system and provide additional areas for executive use, complete with folding wall partition.”

All along, he made it sound that the entire eighth floor would be retrofitted by concessionaires.

‘OVER, OVER’

Meanwhile, a couple of things listed in the proposed revisions were labelled as “over-over” by some experts.

One of these is the upgrade of the city hall’s closed-circuit television system (CCTV) to use pixel-type camera which would cost P4.5 million; the upgrade of the voice and data system for P16 million; and the proposal to buy an additional two elevators and to upgrade the original two at the cost of P13.85 million.

Mabilog earlier said the present city hall only generates foot traffic of 1,000 people a day. This number, according to one expert, can very well be serviced by two elevators.

One more thing the experts consider as “over-over” is the proposal to put storage racks in the storage room. In the document obtained by TNT, it was said that these racks would cost P8.7 million.

Another glaring item in the proposal was the allocation of P10.7 million for “movable furniture” for executive offices, meaning for the offices of the mayor, vice mayor and councilors.

“Over-over talaga ito,” one observer said.

NECESSARY BUT OVERPRICED?

Experts interviewed for this report said the recommendation to upgrade to an inverter type airconditioning system and provide pump motors and pressure tanks for water distribution are all necessary given the high cost of electricity and problematic water supply in the city.

Ditto with the upgrading of all lighting fixtures to T5 fluorescent lamps and the installation of solar panels as well as the upgrade of the power cable, distribution transformers and generator sets, which are definitely needed in anticipation of additional load.

However, spending P55.964 million for the upgrade to inverter-type aircon units; P9.696 million for water pumps and tanks; P2 million for T5 lighting upgrade; and P18.743 million for upgrade in power cables and gensets “look overpriced,” said these experts.

“We are really doubtful if these prices have been bid out to various suppliers,” they said.

On top of everything, the proposed “upgrades” in the city hall would cost the city another P9 million in fees to architects and engineers who would implement them.*

Ngek. I spoke too soon.

4threich
April 29th, 2011, 04:00 AM
I haven't met that kind of true hacendero by the way. You'll be surprised in who's the most down to earth people in their society. ;)
yeah i definitely agree, but not to further fan the flamewar, i'll stop at that.

4threich
April 29th, 2011, 04:02 AM
Ngek. I spoke too soon.

it's okey bord, wait for the rebuttal.. i tell you they won't succeed.
ngaa ang oposisyon lang may mga technical advisers haw?

angelkirk89
April 29th, 2011, 04:03 AM
^^

mga migo indi kingahanglan mag quote pan diri halin sa piyak nga thread... anyway be confident lang that our city will always be the city we wanted it to be...

it's just normal for one to be defensive about their locality--- ika nga pride of place....

what's important is that the stores that recently opened in our city are doing very well beyond expectations....simply shows that there is really a market for these brands. That is why a lot are following suit. And we will be expecting expansions in the near future if business is doing well...

I like that, expansions...:lol:

Hipos hipos lang mga Ilonggos pero may ibuga gid...Look at SB, manug one month na nag open pero ang crowd daw sang opening day lang...:lol:

Kaltehitze
April 29th, 2011, 04:05 AM
Para Patas.. Article (http://www.iloilonewstoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1309:new-city-halls-upgrade-to-cost-p2945m&catid=98:local-news)

may ginaharumahum ako nga so called "expert" kon sin o ini..sus kaladlawan gid ni siya ya...

Interesting insight pre...um...can you PM me kung sino na ayhan and kung ngaa kaladlawan siya? is it about his qualifications?

I haven't met that kind of true hacendero by the way. You'll be surprised in who's the most down to earth people in their society. ;)

down to earth, yup. But that's a different matter from how the sacadas are utilized to till the land.



yeah i definitely agree, but not to further fan the flamewar, i'll stop at that.

I agree, there are other, weightier things to talk about in this thread that have a direct impact on us or our family and friends back in iloilo. Tama na ina nga deviation sa mga iloilo-related topics ah.

@virginmonkey: Naks! hehe...

Kaltehitze
April 29th, 2011, 04:08 AM
it's okey bord, wait for the rebuttal.. i tell you they won't succeed.
ngaa ang oposisyon lang may mga technical advisers haw?

Amu gid, it will be about a battle of evidences dayon. Kag pa tayog tayog sang presentations dayon.

Problema gid galing kay ang media, which is in the position to articulate the positions of both parties without any favor, is controlled by RY and DF.

Can the Daily Guardian and Sun.Star Iloilo counterbalance the two aforementioned? abangan....

habagatcentral1
April 29th, 2011, 04:13 AM
down to earth, yup. But that's a different matter from how the sacadas are utilized to till the land.

Sorry for the OT but that depends on what management, cabo, middleman or hacienda they are tending to (may mabuot, may malupit man). Because without the sacada, their whole economy would break down. Tending vast hectares of sugar plantation is not sufficient with its dumaan "home-based" manpower alone. Therefore the sacada.

On the other hand, the sacadas themselves were the ones who chose to go there since most of them are either tenants or no job at all at their hometown. It is seasonal, hence the "migratory farmers." They need money to tend their families.

Sacadas are not exclusive to Negros. We have also here in Iloilo, in Batangas, Tarlac and Bukidnon.

4threich
April 29th, 2011, 04:15 AM
Amu gid, it will be about a battle of evidences dayon. Kag pa tayog tayog sang presentations dayon.

Problema gid galing kay ang media, which is in the position to articulate the positions of both parties without any favor, is controlled by RY and DF.

Can the Daily Guardian and Sun.Star Iloilo counterbalance the two aforementioned? abangan....

^^^JPM posted his in Ynion's paper.

Panay news, kon mag blue na ang uwak.
Sunstar pwede pa..

Plunder is an easy word to say but hard to prove in courts.
asta man lang ini sa tagholanay..
people will eventually know the deal, both sides of the coin and choose what truth to believe in..

jayjay6100
April 29th, 2011, 04:18 AM
Wahahahahaha Kita mo na kaugalingon nga "tumatandang paurong!"wahahahahahaha .Ran awa sa miror,miror on the wall before ka magcomment sa iban.Wahahahahha Basi bala may MUTA.Daw kadali Lang sa inyo magcommand sa mga politiko.Abi Kay kabalo kamo magpadalagan sang mayo nga gobyerno,padalagan Ka bi start ka anay sa Baranggay Tanod para bal-an mo ang systema.Wahahahahahhaha just bware basi may matapakan ka kag magpoof ka Lang gulpi.Wahahahhaahwelcome mark anthony... time to share your ideas in support for our beloved city's development. :) :cheers:



my request for the big man? is for him to use his personal and political connections to invite more investors to do business in our city. my other request? that they he and his allies (mabilog and trenas) counter the threat of some "emerging evil forces" that could herald iloilo's return to the dark ages. kilala nyo naman na cguro ah. :ohno: :bash:



kung sa ibang salita pa, "tumatanda ng pa-urong ah." :colgate: :laugh:



6 thousand? mahal man ah? by the way, thanks sa info pre... :cheers:



truth really hurts pre... basta ako ya, depensahan ko lang ya ang thread ta ah. no matter what. :cheers::cheers::cheers::lol:



basi kung mag mayor sya, tanan nga dalan sang iloilo sya lang ang may right of way ha? this is not a good sign. gamay pa lang gani nga poder, abusado na... how much more, kung ara na sa public office? hmmmm. :lol::nuts:



wala opisyo ah... kung di mag kutso-kutso kag mamamantay ah. ambot kung ga dugang ila kwarta sa amo na nga opisyo nila? :lol::lol::lol:

maurosomodio
April 29th, 2011, 04:20 AM
Nice to see you here, Nong Mau.

Nakaintra ka gid man diri sa amon bah...kalabanan diri member man sang dinagyang.com.

Madamo ka diri masagap nga mga balita parte sa Iloilo.

Noy, thanks for welcoming me here...I would like to suggest....nga ang forumer naton sa bilog nga kalibutan, ma-promote guid sang iloilo. Ang tourism daku guid nga business sang Iloilo, kon tani ma promote lang sang kada colleges and universities sa ila alumni, nga magbalik-bisita sila...ay abaw daw ano kadaku mabulig sa aton local economy. Kay kon ang alumni maguli...may bitbit nga mga friends...

Kaltehitze
April 29th, 2011, 04:24 AM
Sorry for the OT but that depends on what management, cabo, middleman or hacienda they are tending to (may mabuot, may malupit man). Because without the sacada, their whole economy would break down. Tending vast hectares of sugar plantation is not sufficient with its dumaan "home-based" manpower alone. Therefore the sacada.

On the other hand, the sacadas themselves were the ones who chose to go there since most of them are either tenants or no job at all at their hometown. It is seasonal, hence the "migratory farmers." They need money to tend their families.

Sacadas are not exclusive to Negros. We have also here in Iloilo, in Batangas, Tarlac and Bukidnon.

You have a valid point, but I will rebut the points you raised, in private. If I reply to you here in public, ma deviate na gid ni ang gina pang discuss ta, sige sige na ini na OT, therefore, not quality posts.

Wait for my PM.

apocryphal
April 29th, 2011, 04:24 AM
patay na ang sunstar iloilo.

4threich
April 29th, 2011, 04:24 AM
Wahahahahaha Kita mo na kaugalingon nga "tumatandang paurong!"wahahahahahaha .Ran awa sa miror,miror on the wall before ka magcomment sa iban.Wahahahahha Basi bala may MUTA.Daw kadali Lang sa inyo magcommand sa mga politiko.Abi Kay kabalo kamo magpadalagan sang mayo nga gobyerno,padalagan Ka bi start ka anay sa Baranggay Tanod para bal-an mo ang systema.Wahahahahahhaha just bware basi may matapakan ka kag magpoof ka Lang gulpi.Wahahahhaah

bro kon pwede PM mo na lang? try ta na lang compromise ah, ako even if i want to post my reply in your thread, i am respecting your thread. so i don't, pls. do too,
I am asking nice..i think everybody read your posts here already and got your point..could you pls. delete it na lang and try to restraint yourself?

:cheers::)

habagatcentral1
April 29th, 2011, 04:27 AM
You have a valid point, but I will rebut the points you raised, in private. If I reply to you here in public, ma deviate na gid ni ang gina pang discuss ta, sige sige na ini na OT, therefore, not quality posts.

Wait for my PM.
Nah, no need. Better tell that next time we meet, por favor. I might eat some kansi somewhere in Makati. Meet-up? That includes everyone who's based here in Manila. ;)

Kaltehitze
April 29th, 2011, 04:29 AM
patay na ang sunstar iloilo.

Welcome to the thread pre.

Sang sano pa nag close ang sunstar pre? how about ang visayan daily star?

bro kon pwede PM mo na lang? try ta na lang compromise ah, ako even if i want to post my reply in your thread, i am respecting your thread. so i don't, pls. do too,
I am asking nice..i think everybody read your posts here already and got your point..could you pls. delete it na lang and try to restraint yourself?

:cheers::)

Pre, ga balos lang na si jayjay kay si gustokiddo nag sawsaw didto. That's why indi gid malikawan na mag post ni sya sa aton.

For us long as anybody from here may mag sawsaw didto, may ma sawsaw man na diri.

But I agree with you, sa PM na lang na tani.

4threich
April 29th, 2011, 04:30 AM
Article (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/iloilo/local-news/2011/04/28/new-city-hall-has-no-setback-area-152512)

ILOILO City Mayor Jed Patrick Mabilog admitted that the new seven-storey City Hall building currently being constructed at its old site fronting Plaza Libertad has no setback area.

Mabilog said the City Council passed a resolution in 2009 allowing no setback area for the new City Hall since the building will be constructed with seven storeys in more than 1,000 square meters lot.

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The mayor is reacting to criticisms that the new building to house all City Government offices is violating existing rules of the National Building Code regarding the need for a setback area and a parking lot.

Mabilog said the new building can accommodate all offices, including some unused portions to be leased to private individuals and other National Government agencies.

The parking lot is also being eyed at the property of nearby Ker and Co., which the city is planning to buy at P35 million. The amount is included in the second loan of P260 million from Land Bank of the Philippines.

City Government vehicles can also use the side street behind the City Hall as parking area, including those vehicles of visitors, the mayor said.

Mabilog is reacting to criticisms of the United Architects of the Philippines (UAP) Hamili chapter, which said violations of the building code and discrepancies in the construction of the new City Hall.

The UAP has bid out as contractor of the new City Hall but it lost to winning bidder FF Cruz.

If they really wanted to build the new building, they could have lowered their bidding price, Mabilog said.

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your reply UAP Hamili?

Kaltehitze
April 29th, 2011, 04:30 AM
Nah, no need. Better tell that next time we meet, por favor. I might eat some kansi somewhere in Makati. Meet-up? That includes everyone who's based here in Manila. ;)

Baw ah, mang kansi naman ta!? count me in! Pwede ako anytime sa month of may!

habagatcentral1
April 29th, 2011, 04:33 AM
Baw ah, mang kansi naman ta!? count me in! Pwede ako anytime sa month of may!
Ngek! Not on May 15...I'll be out for Pahiyas de Lucban. Ti basi gusto nyo maupod sa akon? May 8 I'll be in Los Baños. Basi May 21 I'm somewhere...south. :D

virginmonkey
April 29th, 2011, 04:34 AM
OMG!!! Both the negative and positive signs and symptoms of schizophrenia are there:
1. paranoia
2. delusion
3. flight of ideas
4. ideas of reference
5. apathy
6. perseveration
7. associative looseness

A psychiatrist is badly needed here. . . there's a high risk for suicide. . . ha ha ha. . .

Kadlaw gid ko ah!!! indi ko gid mapunggan kay daw gulpi lang gid nag-ulhot! ha ha ha. . . Kag dumduman ko dayon sang sa Passi ako nga may isa ka babae bala nga nagalakat sa dalan, sagad lang sya ya wakal nga wakal, ti wala man gasapak sa iya. . . Buhi pa sya? Lakat na sya halin Passi pakadto San Enrique sige na ina iya singgitan tapos balik naman sa Passi gasinggit man gihapon. Tapos one time siguro kinapoy man, eh nagpundo sa Rumagayray sa atubang sang sugar central tapos gin-istorya ko, abaw gin-singgitan ako. . . ha ha ha. . . kibot ako pero wala ako nahadlok kay ti dako lawas ko, gamay sya ya eh. . . isa ko ka inomol sigurado tumba sya. . . kag kumpyansa man ako nga indi nya ako kusion kay ti gwapo ako. . . ha ha ha. . . ti sigurado gid eh, wala. . . hehehe. . . (pang ice breaker lang ini ah!)

4threich
April 29th, 2011, 04:35 AM
Interesting insight pre...um...can you PM me kung sino na ayhan and kung ngaa kaladlawan siya? is it about his qualifications?


won't name names, but let's just say, paisol ni siya magpanumdom...
the city needs less of these kinds of professionals, they ned to avail an early retirement package..lol
I bet my half ass grabe man ni binoringot ya parte pagkuha ni Drilon kay
Arch. Paolo A. sa river esplanade...

virginmonkey
April 29th, 2011, 04:36 AM
Ngek! Not on May 15...I'll be out for Pahiyas de Lucban. Ti basi gusto nyo maupod sa akon? May 8 I'll be in Los Baños. Basi May 21 I'm somewhere...south. :D

Maganda ang pahiyas. . .you will see the display of harvests and products of the community. . . pero mas nami maglantaw kung bispera kay fresh pa ang mga harvests nila.

apocryphal
April 29th, 2011, 04:39 AM
mga almost 3 years na nag fold up sunstar iloilo. may corres lang na sila for sunstar network.

ang headlines, buhi pa ... iya na ni fiscal baldago. buhi pa na nga dyayro pero wala na influence sa iloilo.

Hawili Hurom
April 29th, 2011, 04:41 AM
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/230925_179768952075818_144560688929978_449731_6432518_n.jpg

jayjay6100
April 29th, 2011, 04:42 AM
bro kon pwede PM mo na lang? try ta na lang compromise ah, ako even if i want to post my reply in your thread, i am respecting your thread. so i don't, pls. do too,
I am asking nice..i think everybody read your posts here already and got your point..could you pls. delete it na lang and try to restraint yourself?

:cheers::)
PLEASE RESPECT BACOLOD also.Disciple your own people first before OTHERS......THANK YOU!Long time na nga amo ni ginapakita sang mga kaupod mo towards sa mga taga Pihak. not all Wala ko ginarespect diri.Only a few nga ginrespect ko diri.Ang gusto magparespeto syempre respetuhon.

itlogo
April 29th, 2011, 04:48 AM
Wahahahahhahaaha Kalo-oy man sa LiLo no Kay ginalasak pa gid suno sa IMO.Recall mo Lang ang ginhimo sang taga LILO sang Wala pa nag uswag ang Bacolod Kay grabe nga pagput down,paglasak kag pagpakita nga kamo gid ang superior.Anu expect mo ang balik mangirit Lang kag mayuhum-yuhum.Wahahahahaha Think,Think kag Think pa gid.Wahahahahahaha

ohh! may nag inagi?

maski mag ano ka di, indi kami mag apin sa imo... wala man traidor di...:nuts::nuts::nuts:

Hawili Hurom
April 29th, 2011, 04:49 AM
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/39488_140003349364414_100000642486492_260458_5078521_n.jpg

PARC REGENCY - UNGKA, PAVIA

Hawili Hurom
April 29th, 2011, 04:51 AM
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/38779_140000422698040_100000642486492_260450_3165826_n.jpg

VILLA BEACH - AREVALO, ILOILO CITY

virginmonkey
April 29th, 2011, 04:53 AM
bro kon pwede PM mo na lang? try ta na lang compromise ah, ako even if i want to post my reply in your thread, i am respecting your thread. so i don't, pls. do too,
I am asking nice..i think everybody read your posts here already and got your point..could you pls. delete it na lang and try to restraint yourself?

:cheers::)

I'm sorry, I dont want to be your DISCIPLE, if really you are looking for them!!! lol. Tama gid man, indi kaisrot!!!

4threich
April 29th, 2011, 04:54 AM
PLEASE RESPECT BACOLOD also.Disciple your own people first before OTHERS......THANK YOU!Long time na nga amo ni ginapakita sang mga kaupod mo towards sa mga taga Pihak. not all Wala ko ginarespect diri.Only a few nga ginrespect ko diri.Ang gusto magparespeto syempre respetuhon.

likewise pre, really don't have a grudge with Bacolod, akon lang kon may ara da nga indi man mapunggan maghaboy ti tawo man ta, tindogan ta man aton eh, pareho man sa imo ah.. i go there more often than you think sa Bacolod, kinanglan ko pa di iwaragwag sa forum ginahimo ta sa adlaw2?
the point is, somebody called me out there too. out of respect it was prudent not to reply, but i really did what i proposed.
ugaling may ara gid nga instances, gusto kiddo was going there to discuss things he thinks he wants to have with you guys. its fun, pero kon daw wala na padulongan ti pwede ta man guro ma untat indi bla?


wala ko di disipulo pre kay myembro man lang ako..suggestion lang ni..

4threich
April 29th, 2011, 04:59 AM
I'm sorry, I dont want to be your DISCIPLE, if really you are looking for them!!! lol. Tama gid man, indi kaisrot!!!

just trying to bridge the gap hombre.. :)
after the battle you pick up the wounded, and bury the dead...

whyte
April 29th, 2011, 05:03 AM
Guys, check out the latest issue of MEZZO MAGAZINE.
It doesn't look nor feel like a LOCAL magazine ...

http://i55.tinypic.com/2yubl0x.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/3129unt.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/20sj405.jpg

Pero syempre sa food ako nakatoka :lol:
Ang favorite ni HARDBALL

http://i54.tinypic.com/qsmptl.jpg

ronie
April 29th, 2011, 05:05 AM
^^^ taga NEDA ka?

yes but i'm with the operations division specifically the finance section. the technical divisions handle the other functions of NEDA such as project evaluation, policy formulation, project monitoring and knowledge management.

Hawili Hurom
April 29th, 2011, 05:07 AM
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/39670_139999426031473_100000642486492_260449_621906_n.jpg

BIR BUILDING - MOLO

itlogo
April 29th, 2011, 05:08 AM
likewise pre, really don't have a grudge with Bacolod, akon lang kon may ara da nga indi man mapunggan maghaboy ti tawo man ta, tindogan ta man aton eh, pareho man sa imo ah.. i go there more often than you think sa Bacolod, kinanglan ko pa di iwaragwag sa forum ginahimo ta sa adlaw2?
the point is, somebody called me out there too. out of respect it was prudent not to reply, but i really did what i proposed.
ugaling may ara gid nga instances, gusto kiddo was going there to discuss things he thinks he wants to have with you guys. its fun, pero kon daw wala na padulongan ti pwede ta man guro ma untat indi bla?


wala ko di disipulo pre kay myembro man lang ako..suggestion lang ni..

grabe man nga pasensya imo pre ba, isa ka samga idol ko di. ipod kay hawili.......

4threich
April 29th, 2011, 05:09 AM
grabe man nga pasensya imo pre ba, isa ka samga idol ko di. ipod kay hawili.......

ang mga ido di may kaalam man pre, may time managhol, may time mangagat, may time magtulog...hehehe