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KulasKusgan
July 30th, 2006, 01:55 AM
I think competition between building companise and materila distibutures are a solution to high prices. We are a "nanny" country, we do pay alot of taxes here to make sure all have right to a free medical care and shools are free and open for all children and if possible no one has to starve .and many more helping programs..that is why we pay so much taxes all the time on our work and on everthing we buy. I do not mind helping out that way when it helps all, I gladly pay my taxes really for the benefit of us all in the society.


I guess we need to pattern our tax collection system with your country.

Here in the Philippines, most people complain alot relative to basic social services but pay a little or even evade in paying taxes. They complain because basic social services are lacking like education, housing and medical services but not helping the govt by paying the right taxes.

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 02:38 AM
One of them is my neighbor here and he must be busy with work. lol

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 03:31 AM
The building will rise up with it's exact replica, not bad!

kunoL8
July 30th, 2006, 04:26 AM
at least the new building isn't that much different from the old one.

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 04:42 AM
at least the new building isn't that much different from the old one.

right

Davao Japan Link
July 30th, 2006, 05:18 AM
Hello Everyone Its good to hear nga naay people who really love Davao coz i belong to the same group as you. i usually read Davao thread and hope to hear a lot about Davao coz all of my plans belong to Davao. I have lots of dream and vision about this place. My colorful history started in Davao. I hope to hear a lot more and exchange new developments about this City in my Heart. :)

Hello Silicon Gulf . kita lang ta bai.

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 05:27 AM
Hello Everyone Its good to hear nga naay people who really love Davao coz i belong to the same group as you. i usually read Davao thread and hope to hear a lot about Davao coz all of my plans belong to Davao. I have lots of dream and vision about this place. My colorful history started in Davao. I hope to hear a lot more and exchange new developments about this City in my Heart. :)

Hello Silicon Gulf . kita lang ta bai.

Welcome DavaoJapan Link. Keep posting here. You must be in the IT yourself. Indeed, there's a lot you can do to help our beloved Davao. Everybody here shares the same spirit like you have.

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 07:56 AM
the malaysian witch hunt continues!!!

habagatcentral1
July 30th, 2006, 07:57 AM
Ey, nagkaroon na ba ng SSC meet ang Davao?

Matteo
July 30th, 2006, 08:28 AM
^^ i think they had one before, not too many of them though.
they went to jacks ridge i think it was

dinabaw
July 30th, 2006, 08:56 AM
Originally Posted by scandinavian girl
I think competition between building companise and materila distibutures are a solution to high prices. We are a "nanny" country, we do pay alot of taxes here to make sure all have right to a free medical care and shools are free and open for all children and if possible no one has to starve .and many more helping programs..that is why we pay so much taxes all the time on our work and on everthing we buy. I do not mind helping out that way when it helps all, I gladly pay my taxes really for the benefit of us all in the society.

It would be nice if countries could work together on programs for the benefit of alot of people in the world and create an exchange of skills and knowledge. A dream that might fullfill in the future. Then we have to get active dinabaw and go of this computer and work for a better world...

Thats very true the law of supply and demand. I hope eco-housing will be "common " in building trend . coz supply will be abundant and in competitive price .
It's a good thing that Sweden pays tax religiously even its a "high price" to pay, you have the benefits thats unthinkable to other country just like ours But how do you solve a country with people mostly can't even have a decent meal for a day ? A country 80% poverty w/ a population that is 86 million??A country that the "rich getting richer and poor getting much poorer"?Well maybe we have start reforming our govermnment ,birth control and the big difference in wealth distribution.
Hope you have a nice and wonderful day min askling :hi:

dinabaw
July 30th, 2006, 09:06 AM
Oi mga dodong hastang pildiha jud ninyo kung nag pusta mo sa ako , Gravy 1 ka case na ??? :D

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 09:22 AM
kinsa jud kaha..malaysia umamin ka na!nanana..napaplibutan ka na namin!minminmin hehe

check out my avatar boys!

Rajah_Soliman
July 30th, 2006, 11:59 AM
kinsa jud kaha..malaysia umamin ka na!nanana..napaplibutan ka na namin!minminmin hehe

check out my avatar boys!

basig ako ng malaysia? :runaway:

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 12:54 PM
waaaah si rajah si malaysia!

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 02:19 PM
the malaysian witch hunt continues!!!

I'm sticking to my wild guess. lol

Asa na kaha to si bai Junax... Bai Junax, witch ka daw este si Malaysia ka raw? Wawa naman, hard-core defender nang Davao ginawang witch ni Gravy :jk: .

Basta si Gravy ka rin don Boyet...LOL. :)

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 02:27 PM
basig ako ng malaysia? :runaway:

Hey, what's with the 2 apostrophes?

BTW, I PMed you just today. Have fun Jude.

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 02:28 PM
check out my avatar boys!

look ma, they're big!

scandinavian girl
July 30th, 2006, 03:00 PM
Ey, is Talikud Island still has no electricity? Because when I last went there (1997) wala pa. I like the virgin beaches! Very clean kaayo ang tubig! clear kaayo! You can walk right through the corals during low tide! I like it there and looking forward to go back.

Hi berniemacksouthcentr.:) walk right through the corals during low tide, thats nice. I have never been there but will enjoy going there when in Davao. What I "heared" about this island is so tempting that I have to visit it.

scandinavian girl
July 30th, 2006, 03:12 PM
Sorry about that Lena and all forumers ...
I am shocked! :bash:

Konsehal I have a friend who often says "life is brutal remember that Lenalee", so do not feel bad Konsehal, this is life, to be shocked by terrible suprises.

Maybe other buildings in Davao will be preserved and one thing here is that the new building looks alot alike the old one. So when I settle in Davao in the future I can tell my children to be, when visiting the muséum "this is how the old house that stood here once, almost used to look like.".:)

scandinavian girl
July 30th, 2006, 03:14 PM
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check out my avatar boys![/QUOTE]

gravy, gravy you haven´t seen notthing yet......:D

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 03:20 PM
hey thats intriguing..lols

scandinavian girl
July 30th, 2006, 03:32 PM
basig ako ng malaysia? :runaway:

rajah hi :) like your quote "laughing at our own life can lenghten........"
Nice.

Skyblue_Navyblue
July 30th, 2006, 03:36 PM
curious ako kang malaysia!
sino yan siya??

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 04:11 PM
^^ ikaw man sky diba?! nag PM ka pa nga sa akin na ikaw si malaysia...

Rajah_Soliman
July 30th, 2006, 04:22 PM
waaaah si rajah si malaysia!


hep....i am not malaysia...actually...i'm still trying to find my way into that istorya.net forum....postings mo pa lang so far ang nabasa ko (greenbelt park)...der suche nach malaysia geht weiter (<-@ inday lena...please translate, thanks) :)

Skyblue_Navyblue
July 30th, 2006, 04:26 PM
AKO GRAVY??

hoy! tudlo pa gyud ka ug uban na super innocent nako!! :no:

joke lang uy! magpalamig ka muna! :cheers:

dili daw ako! :angel1:

lagi! for sure!

and FYI, kani lang na forum ang akong gi-typan ug maayo! :righton:

and lastly.... dili ako si malaysia.

I'm Skyblue with the capital S

whhheeeee!!!

Rajah_Soliman
July 30th, 2006, 04:29 PM
rajah hi :) like your quote "laughing at our own life can lenghten........"
Nice.

that's the bitter reality inday lena ...we are allowed to laugh at our own mistakes but now at others :bash:

scandinavian girl
July 30th, 2006, 04:32 PM
hep....i am not malaysia...actually...i'm still trying to find my way into that istorya.net forum....postings mo pa lang so far ang nabasa ko (greenbelt park)...der suche nach malaysia geht weiter (<-@ inday lena...please translate, thanks) :)

Rajah of course...:) the search for malaysia continues....I know who it is :) lalalala wont tell...my lips are seald as is common to say in the politics....

KulasKusgan
July 30th, 2006, 04:51 PM
Intermission:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z92QMMtKI_s

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zip6KvZMKys

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV81NaWJb4w

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Goodnight!

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 04:55 PM
Rajah of course...:) the search for malaysia continues....I know who it is :) lalalala wont tell...my lips are seald as is common to say in the politics....

awww if you know who malaysia is..then ive got a clue who he is now! hahaha

scandinavian girl
July 30th, 2006, 05:03 PM
awww if you know who malaysia is..then ive got a clue who he is now! hahaha

I follow your thought pattern but is not so gravy ....sorry it is not Don....:)

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 05:05 PM
ahhh another miss..hehe

dinabaw
July 30th, 2006, 05:08 PM
clue : somebody not posting today :hammer: ohhh gravy a beer bottle please!!!

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 05:10 PM
^^ my guess..JUNAX, DAVE or PAULKRPS

KulasKusgan
July 30th, 2006, 05:10 PM
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<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/6nRU5ORqev4"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/6nRU5ORqev4" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

dinabaw
July 30th, 2006, 05:15 PM
maybe ?but lots of guys not posting today :D

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 05:18 PM
ahh until junax says it isnt him hes my suspect..lols

KulasKusgan
July 30th, 2006, 05:21 PM
^^ my guess..JUNAX, DAVE or PAULKRPS

once lang ko nakapost didto. og wala nako nibalik.

wild guess: xzibit? tj_brewed?

aw, goodnight na diay sa tanan.

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 05:25 PM
TJ uses tj_brewed..

KulasKusgan
July 30th, 2006, 05:28 PM
TJ uses tj_brewed..

aw, tama.

baka alter-ego ng isa sa mga forumers.

basta ako si kulaskusgan.

dinabaw
July 30th, 2006, 05:31 PM
oi kadagugay pud ninyo naka kuha isang tingin ko lang i got it!!! :D
hahaha kulaskugan kaila pud ko ana!!!

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 05:37 PM
kinsa ba jud? :D

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 05:38 PM
ahh until junax says it isnt him hes my suspect..lols

basta kung dili si Don, wa nay lain, si Junax na ..lol

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 05:40 PM
oi kadagugay pud ninyo naka kuha isang tingin ko lang i got it!!! :D
hahaha kulaskugan kaila pud ko ana!!!

isang tingin lang sa pics, very Junax na pero wait, dali ra man to i repost ang mga pics from one thread to another... whew! it's mind-boggling.

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 05:41 PM
si apocusp..kinsa kaha..hmmmmm bwahahaha

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 05:45 PM
redundant

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 05:46 PM
Kinsa tong band na murag taga UM kay all scenes in the video were shot in UM and McArthur Highway, very nice. Very catchy ang lyrics ng kanta nila. Ganda ng UM campus!

KulasKusgan
July 30th, 2006, 05:54 PM
Mao Kaha Kini Ang Gugma by Thavawenyoz - Awit awardee for the song "Hubag"

dinabaw
July 30th, 2006, 05:55 PM
di ba mysterious pud si sunguk.suk ba to??? :D

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 05:56 PM
Mao Kaha Kini Ang Gugma by Thavawenyoz - Awit awardee for the song "Hubag"

thanks Dave. ikaw kaha kini si Malaysia? lol

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 05:58 PM
di ba mysterious pud si sunguk.suk ba to??? :D

wa lagi ko kabasa sa iya didto, basin lurker pud lang siya, like me.

KulasKusgan
July 30th, 2006, 06:01 PM
thanks Dave. ikaw kaha kini si Malaysia? lol

yay! imposible.

dinabaw
July 30th, 2006, 06:02 PM
hahaha lurker?! kidder ka jud ai joker diay davaoeagle

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 06:03 PM
LOOK AT THE BANNER..CHONQING LOOKS LIKE MANHATTAN!

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 06:04 PM
hahaha lurker?! kidder ka jud ai joker diay davaoeagle

LOLS!

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 06:06 PM
yay! imposible.

joke lang Dave oi, balo ko sober na ka since PEX. peace brother Dave!!!!!!!!!

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 06:07 PM
LOOK AT THE BANNER..CHONQING LOOKS LIKE MANHATTAN!

which banner. unsa bay CHONQING. Rotterdam pa lagi akong banner diri.

KulasKusgan
July 30th, 2006, 06:10 PM
abi ko chowking.

joke lang Dave oi, balo ko sober na ka since PEX. peace brother Dave!!!!!!!!!

tama si don, kidder jud.

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 06:11 PM
ni lurk ko balik didto, unya si XANOR kay murag clueless pa sa na achieve na truce didto. Maayo na lang kay gi explain ni Gravy.

I hope Junax will come out to clear the air, PM na lang para covert gamay...lol

dinabaw
July 30th, 2006, 06:12 PM
gravy ilike your brains :D

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 06:13 PM
which banner. unsa bay CHONQING. Rotterdam pa lagi akong banner diri.
city in china..wel basi tungod kay naa ka sa canada and dili pa july 31 dira..

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 06:15 PM
gravy ilike your brains :D

:rofl:

wish i had a girl with such pair of brains..always had a fetish for "brains" :D

dinabaw
July 30th, 2006, 06:18 PM
oi Dave final date and place of the meeting???

gravy i am not pertaining to your avatar its how you solve who's apocusp :D

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 06:25 PM
^^ really now?? LOLS

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 06:28 PM
city in china..wel basi tungod kay naa ka sa canada and dili pa july 31 dira..

mao guro. well, daghan na gyud kaayo mga modern cities ang China. Ang Shanghai daw kay pildi na ang New York sa kadaghan ug skyscrapers, as in half ra daw nang naa sa NY compared to Shanghai's. Kuyaw noh?

KulasKusgan
July 30th, 2006, 06:29 PM
oi Dave final date and place of the meeting???

gravy i am not pertaining to your avatar its how you solve who's apocusp :D

date: friday or saturday. preferably aug 11, 12, 18 or 19.
venue: buy1 take1 pizza sa picobello or eat all you can sa iron horse. then videoke pagkahuman kay mokanta si gravy.

any more nominations?

WawaY[625]
July 30th, 2006, 06:31 PM
IRON HORSE NA LANG PARA MAS INATO UG BARATO :D

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 06:34 PM
abi ko chowking.



tama si don, kidder jud.

abi pud nako chowking pud he he

dinabaw
July 30th, 2006, 06:35 PM
picobello sa Gaisano?ok lang ai naay utang na sa ako si gravy 1 ka botelya.... hehehe iprefer on the 19th kay wal si gravy sa 12th ingon nya

KulasKusgan
July 30th, 2006, 06:35 PM
IRON HORSE NA LANG PARA MAS INATO UG BARATO :D

ok ko diha kay walking distance lang.

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 06:36 PM
date: friday or saturday. preferably aug 11, 12, 18 or 19.
venue: buy1 take1 pizza sa picobello or eat all you can sa iron horse. then videoke pagkahuman kay mokanta si gravy.

any more nominations?

Maglaway man pud ta ani ninyo oi. (sabay tulo ang luha sa kamingaw sa davao).

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 06:38 PM
ok ko diha kay walking distance lang.

naa diay ka sa Rizal dapit Sleep?

KulasKusgan
July 30th, 2006, 06:38 PM
o, picobello sa gaisano kay makita ang skyline sa davao.

time sa, murag nabuntagan ko... matulog nako kay trabaho pa sayo ugma.

ganiha pako sigeg goodnight hangtud karon sige pag post. tinuod na ni.

KulasKusgan
July 30th, 2006, 06:40 PM
naa diay ka sa Rizal dapit Sleep?

sa calinan ko. buot mog walking distance lang sa akoa ang rizal-calinan. atik lang. sa claveria bitaw ko trabaho.

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 06:42 PM
o, picobello sa gaisano kay makita ang skyline sa davao.

time sa, murag nabuntagan ko... matulog nako kay trabaho pa sayo ugma.

ganiha pako sigeg goodnight hangtud karon sige pag post. tinuod na ni.

ha ha, paningkamot diha ug tulog Dave. Makabuang man ni SSC oi. Ako pud kay gareview pero mas daghan review sa SSC posts ang nahimo. Mag conenstrate na ko...LOL

dinabaw
July 30th, 2006, 06:42 PM
ayaw na ka tulog Dave buntag na pag suot na lang sa pangtrabaho nimo !hehehe

KulasKusgan
July 30th, 2006, 06:42 PM
Maglaway man pud ta ani ninyo oi. (sabay tulo ang luha sa kamingaw sa davao).

why not mag-online pud ta during sa meet...

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 06:45 PM
sa calinan ko. buot mog walking distance lang sa akoa ang rizal-calinan. atik lang. sa claveria bitaw ko trabaho.


BIG LOL... bugoy gyud ni si Dave ba. Tama, kalimot ko Clinan pud ka way cligo pareha nako. Miss na pud ang Calinan.. whew!

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 06:47 PM
why not mag-online pud ta during sa meet...

ha ha, kung puede lang ba ..lol

KulasKusgan
July 30th, 2006, 06:47 PM
ayaw na ka tulog Dave buntag na pag suot na lang sa pangtrabaho nimo !hehehe

wa pa ra ba koy tulog sukad sabado sa gabii. anemic nako.

final na gyud ni. maayong buntag sa tanan.

dinabaw
July 30th, 2006, 06:50 PM
oi murag zzzzzzzzzz naman pud si gravy diba gravy yard shift na siya !!! bai panghatag pud ug redhorse :D

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 06:57 PM
wa pa ra ba koy tulog sukad sabado sa gabii. anemic nako.

final na gyud ni. maayong buntag sa tanan.

ayaw na ni basaha Dave ha para di na ka katubag...OOOPS, no peeking!

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 06:59 PM
oi murag zzzzzzzzzz naman pud si gravy diba gravy yard shift na siya !!! bai panghatag pud ug redhorse :D

Mata pa na kay night owl man na ..lol. gilibot pa niya tanang threads sa SSC unya ikalat niya iyang avatar ug signature..LOL. :jk: Graves

dinabaw
July 30th, 2006, 07:04 PM
zzzzzzzzz na pud ko bai kay wa koy trabaho ugma hehehe anyway have a nice day apocusp ooops davaoeagle diay :D

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 07:08 PM
Monday, July 31, 2006
Mayor described as city's top tourist attraction

CITY Mayor Rodrigo Duterte is currently Davao City's number one tourist attraction, aside from his being a strong magnet to investors.

This was Vice Mayor Luis Bonguyan's frank description of the mayor, saying he doesn't mind being called the mayor's number one fan.

Bonguyan described his boss in glowing terms in a speech he delivered before some 50 businessmen attending the 6th Davao City Business Conference Annual Policy Forum at Davao City Convention and Trade Center last week.

The vice mayor was, delivering for Duterte, the mayor's response to the resolutions of the Davao City business sector at the end of the annual business conference.

He also mentioned Duterte being chosen as the 2005 Pinoy of the Year by a national daily tabloid publication.

"Many of our visitors, especially those from Luzon who have heard so much about the exploits and controversial statements of Mayor Duterte, admit that they came here primarily to see the mayor in person," Bonguyan bared.

City Tourism Officer Edmundo "Id" Acaylar confirmed the vice mayor's statement.

"During the Asean Tourism Forum, other conventions and the Lakbay Aral trips of local government officials here, most of the delegates would want to meet and have pictures taken with the mayor," he said.

In his speech with the businessmen, Bonguyan relayed Duterte's appreciation to the support of the business sector, led by the Davao City Chamber of Commerce and Industry, for his administration's programs and projects.

"We truly value your partnership especially in the areas of tourism and investment promotion, environment, transparency and public accountability, youth development and gender mainstreaming," Bonguyan quoted Duterte as saying.

"Indeed, Davao City is now poised to sustain the gains we have made in our local economy. When the rest of the country is in bad financial shape, our city continues to post a positive balance of trade, sound fiscal administration, and increased private and public investments," he said. (AMA)


For Bisaya stories from Davao. Click here.

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 07:10 PM
zzzzzzzzz na pud ko bai kay wa koy trabaho ugma hehehe anyway have a nice day apocusp ooops davaoeagle diay :D

LOL.. I wish I were Apocusp, for real! Goodnight Malaysia este Don diay.. kitakits sa Istorya err.SSC Davao diay. LOL

scandinavian girl
July 30th, 2006, 07:15 PM
zzzzzzzzz na pud ko bai kay wa koy trabaho ugma hehehe anyway have a nice day apocusp ooops davaoeagle diay :D

dinabaw so it is here you have been all the time when I was trying to talk to you about important matters...:poke:

Well, now it is my turn, so what`s up guys??? :) Did you solve the mysterious malaysia case yet??:)

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 07:17 PM
This is very Davaoeno pouring his heart out for beloved Davao and a space here it so deserves...

Monday, July 31, 2006
Missing Davao terribly
By Miguel Antonio Lizada
Kuya's Chair

WHEN I go home some time this October, I will have spent seven months in Manila. This for me is pretty long already. I left Davao last April for summer school to complete my minor in Filipino Literature.

When summer school ended, I decided to stay until the start of the regular semester. My reason? Apart from finishing my school org obligations, I wanted to explore Manila. You see, usually I arrive here in Manila one or two days before the start of classes; and then I leave immediately the day after my last final exam. I wanted to experience Manila without thinking about papers, exams, homework (and dorm curfews). It was a good experience but in the end, I still miss Davao.

What exactly do I miss in Davao? I will start of course with my family: Mr. Papa's Table, Miss Belly Dancer, Mr. Orange and Mr Basketball Dude. I miss Saturday masses and dinner with the family. I miss hopping over stores to buy not-so-original DVDs and then watching them over popcorn and chips. I miss the corny Chinese movies Mr. Papa's Table obliges us to watch. I miss breakfasts in either McDo or Marco Polo.

By missing the family, I also mean missing the Castillos. Even though I have a handful of cousins now here at the dorm (each one making their mommies and daddies proud, I assure you dear titas and titos), I still miss the clan in general. I miss the Sunday lunches and the boisterous laughter that go with them.

I miss the "tsismis". I miss the conversations on the simple yet fun things in life. Most of all, I miss the people that matter to me the most, the people who make me truly understand the meaning of family.

I miss durian. I miss passing by Magsaysay Park and inhaling the stinky durian smell penetrating the windows of our car.

I miss the light traffic of Davao. I miss the idea of being able to go from one end of the city to the other in less than twenty minutes. I miss the taxis in Davao. I miss the 25-peso flag rate and the 1 peso per kilometer fare (here in Manila its 2.50/kilometer). I miss getting the exact change down to the last centavo.

I miss the clean water. I miss the fact that I do not get a lot of dung in my nose at the end of the day due to air pollution.

I miss Paradise Island, Pearl Farm and the fact that it only takes some good minutes to get to an excellent beach. I miss Eden nature Park, the cooling breeze and the breathtaking view. I miss Royale House and the best fried chicken ever.

I miss the Ateneo de Davao High School. I also miss Saturday masses at the Ateneo de Davao Jacinto campus and meeting old classmates while being there.

There are so many things more that I miss in Davao. And I guess what I realize is that after "exploring" in Manila- its nightlife, its culture, environment and everything -- Davao is still my home. It is where my family is, where the places and things I love are.

And nothing, no Embassy, no Ponticellos, no Puerto Galera can ever replace that.

I return to Davao City on October with that conviction. For now, my thesis demands attention.

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 07:22 PM
dinabaw so it is here you have been all the time when I was trying to talk to you about important matters...:poke:

Well, now it is my turn, so what`s up guys??? :) Did you solve the mysterious malaysia case yet??:)


Not yet Lena, maybe you yourself could "out" him for us here..LOL

scandinavian girl
July 30th, 2006, 07:38 PM
Not yet Lena, maybe you yourself could "out" him for us here..LOL

Are you sure it is a man?? Is he/she even from Davao? Evidence show it is a person form Davao, maybe not always stationed there but definitly a Davao person. About gender, well it is a mixed up situation...if I did not know I would believe it is a woman due to certain evidence in this forum but it is a man he himself said so once asked about it.. Have you investigated carefully? If, you have found clues, yes, that point in that direction ----------> look carefully at photoes precented here and in the istorynet. Then you will know who it is. That is all I say in this matter. I admire Malaysia for all his courage and he is a nice person and very, very wise especially in some matters regarding competition in here between cities from various islands.....maybe I am wrong but all clues lead to this person....so gentlemen of Davao and outside it to, wishing you a very nice night and a good tomorrow! :) :) :)

:goodbye:

Rajah_Soliman
July 30th, 2006, 07:45 PM
..so gentlemen of Davao and outside it to, wishing you a very nice night and a good tomorrow! :) :) :)

:goodbye:


Polysemic !!!!! :lol:

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 08:07 PM
Are you sure it is a man?? Is he/she even from Davao? Evidence show it is a person form Davao, maybe not always stationed there but definitly a Davao person. About gender, well it is a mixed up situation...if I did not know I would believe it is a woman due to certain evidence in this forum but it is a man he himself said so once asked about it.. Have you investigated carefully? If, you have found clues, yes, that point in that direction ----------> look carefully at photoes precented here and in the istorynet. Then you will know who it is. That is all I say in this matter. I admire Malaysia for all his courage and he is a nice person and very, very wise especially in some matters regarding competition in here between cities from various islands.....maybe I am wrong but all clues lead to this person....so gentlemen of Davao and outside it to, wishing you a very nice night and a good tomorrow! :) :) :)

:goodbye:

Ha ha, I can pretty much deduce from your statement who really is Malaysia. I hope HE would be reading this post and came out to clear the air..or maybe we shall just respect his choice to remain incognito just like we would like to leave apocusp remain masked up until now ..at least to some..Gravy seems to have a clue who apocusp is.

scandinavian girl
July 30th, 2006, 08:13 PM
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scandinavian girl
July 30th, 2006, 08:21 PM
Polysemic !!!!! :lol:

rajah, just accept my simple monosemic :hug: :)

Can a definiton of a word transend or progress beyound it´s reference? Isn´t it really the case that we are trapped by the circular nature of words and their definicitons? Can we ever transend or widen this dilemma in communication? Can a monosemic hug transend this circular argument of definition? Or should we just commit ourselves to silence and keep on hugging? What would Ludvig W say?:laugh:

:goodbye:

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 08:44 PM
thanks for finding this music of the great Davaoeno artist-Joey Ayala. It reminds me of my college days when this song swept us all off our feet.

scandinavian girl
July 30th, 2006, 09:47 PM
Ha ha, I can pretty much deduce from your statement who really is Malaysia. I hope HE would be reading this post and came out to clear the air..or maybe we shall just respect his choice to remain incognito just like we would like to leave apocusp remain masked up until now ..at least to some..Gravy seems to have a clue who apocusp is.

apocusp? Are there more mysterious men in here :runaway:
apo, apo cusp...apo the mountian or the apo in Australia (sorry MtApo just exploring in my mind:) )cusp does cusp mean something in ceubano or filipino???Apocusp??? Who is it, any clue guys???'gravy, gravy...helloooo put down the Red Horse :cheers: now and tell me please, who is it???:) Oh, I know who apocusp is... it is....it is... DON!!! He is so good at masking himself ...I know for sure....dinabaw :jk: du är en toppenkille tycker jag.. :)

Or maybe your are right davaoeagle...these people deserve their right to be incognito.....I will no longer guess who is who, all I know is, I am me :D

second or 3d time I say :goodbye: tonight...

scandinavian girl
July 30th, 2006, 10:15 PM
Polysemic !!!!! :lol:

:) I mean tomorrow Monday am to tiered and mixed up these days to extend it to a better tomorrow, I mean a good future of the world..even if I in my heart wish for this...did not even realise it is polysemic until you pointed it out to me ...thanks!!! Always nice with a linguist around :)

Now it is definitly :goodnight:

Rajah_Soliman
July 30th, 2006, 10:36 PM
rajah, just accept my simple monosemic :hug: :)

Can a definiton of a word transend or progress beyound it´s reference? Isn´t it really the case that we are trapped by the circular nature of words and their definicitons? Can we ever transend or widen this dilemma in communication? Can a monosemic hug transend this circular argument of definition? Or should we just commit ourselves to silence and keep on hugging? What would Ludvig W say?:laugh:

:goodbye:


very nice rebuttal inday lena :)... I respect wittgenstein's philosophical dialectic (but i have never been a fan of the vienna circle) ...yeah perhaps we just have to continue on hugging (conversely bashing) each other without understanding why we hug (or bash)....anyway that's the case most of the time...now to make this thread a bit sticky, a picture for you Inday Lena

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b226/cinemapicadizo/Pelikula%20at%20Titus/DSC00122.jpg

this is where gravy_addict presumably spends most of his time after office hours :laugh:

tj_brewed
July 30th, 2006, 11:05 PM
How i wish we can have this in the future as an additional facility and tourist destination:


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/_espla7.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/_espla3.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/_espla2.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/_espla1.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/_espla6.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/_espla8.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/dayview_fullerton.jpg

The Esplanade complex- famous for their spiky roofs-which resemble the king of all fruits (famous and endemic both in Singapore and Davao), the Durian.

The Esplanade is an entertainment and theatre complex with restobars and shops. Venues include: concert hall, recital studio, outdoor spaces, theatre studio, theatre, hospitality spaces, rehearsal & pratice rooms and visual arts space.

Here in Davao - the Sta Ana Wharf is being eyed to become a tourism marina complex. I hope investors can fully develop this site and build our very own Davao Esplanade by the Gulf! :)

One of the investment projects being marketed by Davao City Investment Promotions Center DCIPC (http://www.davaocity.gov.ph/doingbusiness/investmentopportunities.htm) is the Sta Ana Waterfront Development.

"From this area will rise amenities such as conference facilities, hotels, shopping center, fisherman’s wharf, commercial buildings, amusement facilities and parks. Left riverbank will be converted to a green area including commercial establishments. The coastal road and a few access roads will be connected with the reclamation area. This is estimated to cost around 12 billion pesos " from Davao City's Official Site.

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 11:08 PM
very nice rebuttal inday lena :)...
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b226/cinemapicadizo/Pelikula%20at%20Titus/DSC00122.jpg

this is where gravy_addict presumably spends most of his time after office hours :laugh:

No, this one is Blue Gre in either Landco or MTS. Gravy frequents POPS Resto and Bar at Wheels and More enclave.

tj_brewed
July 30th, 2006, 11:12 PM
pagbalik ko...I will conquer POPS! bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha!

Does POPS have a ledge? :scouserd:

Rajah_Soliman
July 30th, 2006, 11:12 PM
No, this one is Blue Gre in either Landco or MTS. Gravy frequents POPS Resto and Bar at Wheels and More enclave.

ah okay...btw, do they serve hot calamansi or green mango juice at blue gre? hindi ako nag-kakape eh :)

tj_brewed
July 30th, 2006, 11:14 PM
No, this one is Blue Gre in either Landco or MTS. Gravy frequents POPS Resto and Bar at Wheels and More enclave.

That's BLUGRE Cafe (more expensive than STARBUCKS) in Matina Town Square. Here are some pix of it:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/_blugre2.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/_blugre3.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/_blugre.jpg


Good morning!

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 11:15 PM
@TJ
I wish we could build something like that in the future. You're right, The Sta. Ana Pier would be a perfect place to erect this structure.

tj_brewed
July 30th, 2006, 11:16 PM
@TJ
I wish we could build something like that in the future. You're right, The Sta. Ana Pier would be a perfect place to erect this structure.

pag ako ang binoto nyo! i will build that! bwahahahahahhahahaha :scouserd: just kidding! Soon, how i wish we can have our own ESPLANADE!

we're almost there......I remember that news released after the Ambassador of China came....he said na there are alot of chinese interested to invest in our LRT..wehehehehehehehehe....then I hope mapansin din nila to!

We have a lot of developments that would ensure a brighter future for Davao. Too many to mention, let's just take the opening of direct flights to other major destinations and economic powerhouses for instance.

Go Davao! :)

Rajah_Soliman
July 30th, 2006, 11:17 PM
That's BLUGRE Cafe (more expensive than STARBUCKS) in Matina Town Square.

Good morning!

bon jour! may starbucks na ba sa davao?

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 11:18 PM
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/_blugre.jpg[/CENTER]

Good morning!

Yeah this is BG at MTS and these ladies got their picture taken at the al fresco (veranda) part of the coffe shop facing the other covered court.

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 11:21 PM
wrong picture quoted, my bad. it should be the closer shot with the ladies.

tj_brewed
July 30th, 2006, 11:22 PM
bon jour! may starbucks na ba sa davao?

wala pa! I guess they're underestimating Dabawenyos...d lang nila alam...Kape nila cost cents para sa mga Dabawenyos! bwahahahahahhaha! mas mahal kaya sa Blu Gre than Star Bucks yet ang daming Blu Gre addicts!

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 11:24 PM
bon jour! may starbucks na ba sa davao?

I've read in other threads from a guy who works with SM, SB is coming to SM Davao and other undisclosed sites in Davao within the year.

We have Figaro too- a rather high end coffee shop pioneered in the capital city by a Filipino. They have just opened franchises elsewhere in the world such as China and US.

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 11:30 PM
pag ako ang binoto nyo! i will build that! bwahahahahahhahahaha :scouserd: just kidding! Soon, how i wish we can have our own ESPLANADE!

we're almost there......I remember that news released after the Ambassador of China came....he said na there are alot of chinese interested to invest in our LRT..wehehehehehehehehe....then I hope mapansin din nila to!

We have a lot of developments that would ensure a brighter future for Davao. Too many to mention, let's just take the opening of direct flights to other major destinations and economic powerhouses for instance.

Go Davao! :)

Yeah, Davao is in for more big time. Fly high mighty eagle!

Rajah_Soliman
July 30th, 2006, 11:36 PM
Yeah, Davao is in for more big time. Fly high mighty eagle!


and that is WITH or WITHOUT starbucks :) ...hurrah Davao! good night...zzzzzz

tj_brewed
July 30th, 2006, 11:37 PM
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/duriandavao.jpg

Durians here i come! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa August na! 16 days to go! anjan na ako!!! I will feast on the Durians and Lanzoneses!!! yum yum yum! I'm so excited!!!! moligid jud ko sa yuta sa Davao pagabot nako! ehehehehehehehoh mah God....basi pag abot nako sa airport ma heart attack ko sa ka excited! ahihihihihihihihihihih :runaway:

tj_brewed
July 30th, 2006, 11:45 PM
How i wish we can have this in the future as an additional facility and tourist destination:


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/_espla7.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/_espla3.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/_espla2.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/_espla1.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/_espla6.jpg


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/_espla8.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/dayview_fullerton.jpg

The Esplanade complex- famous for their spiky roofs-which resemble the king of all fruits (famous and endemic both in Singapore and Davao), the Durian.

The Esplanade is an entertainment and theatre complex with restobars and shops. Venues include: concert hall, recital studio, outdoor spaces, theatre studio, theatre, hospitality spaces, rehearsal & pratice rooms and visual arts space.

Here in Davao - the Sta Ana Wharf is being eyed to become a tourism marina complex. I hope investors can fully develop this site and build our very own Davao Esplanade by the Gulf! :)

One of the investment projects being marketed by Davao City Investment Promotions Center DCIPC (http://www.davaocity.gov.ph/doingbusiness/investmentopportunities.htm) is the Sta Ana Waterfront Development.

"From this area will rise amenities such as conference facilities, hotels, shopping center, fisherman’s wharf, commercial buildings, amusement facilities and parks. Left riverbank will be converted to a green area including commercial establishments. The coastal road and a few access roads will be connected with the reclamation area. This is estimated to cost around 12 billion pesos " from Davao City's Official Site.

I'm bringing this to the next page...ala lang! DAVAO IN THE NEAR FUTURE! Impossible? Noway! Tell that to the men a decade ago who used to think that Davao was hopeless.....They were wrong...Dead Wrong....

Look where Davao is now! and see where Davao will go! :) Soar High Davao!

davaoeagle
July 30th, 2006, 11:52 PM
Sige TJ, tawgan nato daan ang 911 para ready to come to your rescue pag ma heart attack ka..LOL

tj_brewed
July 31st, 2006, 12:10 AM
Sige TJ, tawgan nato daan ang 911 para ready to come to your rescue pag ma heart attack ka..LOL


ahahahahahha!atleast makaexperience nako sa serbisyo sa 911! ehehehehehhe ei ok kaau ang promotions sa Kadayawan Foundation. Not that grand but I could say its efficient enough. Here in Cebu, there are shops and boutiques na naay posters sa Kadayawan Festival 2006. Ok kaau ang ilang promotional ad! It depicts na pang world class ang Kadayawan! :)

davaoeagle
July 31st, 2006, 01:06 AM
It's nice to know TJ that there are efforts like that by the Kadayawan Foundation. It's high time promotions of that magnitude is employed if only to bestow to Kadayawan a global attention it truly deserves.

davaoeagle
July 31st, 2006, 01:24 AM
ah okay...btw, do they serve hot calamansi or green mango juice at blue gre? hindi ako nag-kakape eh :)

Yes, in fact hot or cold calamansi juice is my favorite concoction from Blue Gre. I'm no caffeine addict either. I'm even allergic to some coffee blends especially the one served here by Tim Horton's-Canada's homegrown coffee shop now part of the Wendy's Conglomerate.

You should try Blue Gre's tummy fillers as well e.g pasta / macaroni ala baked spag with lots of thinly cut frankfurters in it. A real meal to die for.

Skyblue_Navyblue
July 31st, 2006, 03:29 AM
Morning! wala lang!

whheeee!!!

WawaY[625]
July 31st, 2006, 03:48 AM
@TJ

Re;Ledge sa pops..LEDGE KA DYAN!! lols

Ady001
July 31st, 2006, 05:31 AM
So you're saying they should've shelved the UP Mindanao plan? If we are to enumerate all the missed targets and things done wrong, then we will flood this thread with dissapointments and anger. Why not be thankful that the plan finally materialised? (albeit after a few decades) And besides, isn't it better late than never?

I was an INB too, UP Los Baños, and we did have loads to complain about. You're lucky you get to use NEW facilities, not to mention LB profs since a lot of them moved to UPMin. I lived in one of the residence hall in LB, and everytime there it rained quite a bit, the electricity would go out... and out with it the water supply as well... I've been to the new residence halls in UPMin, and they have bloody PCs!!

Give it time, mate. The university is still quite young, a freshman. When it comes to budget allocation, of course it can't compete with the upperclass campuses. The bigger ones will continue to receive a better slice of the pie, until UPMin is strong enough to square it oof with the rest of the gang. I totally agree with the Habal-habal though, an ex, who teaches in UPMin, used to say na matagtag iyang matris everytime musakay siya ug habalhabal. I must admit i find it a bit adventurous riding HH, in a purely innocent kind of way...

i appreciate man god bay, but it would've been better kung naa na'y UP mga 1970s pa. Not that I want UP shelved, but UP made earlier.

Ady001
July 31st, 2006, 05:45 AM
Paspasa ninyo mag-post oi! I'm almost left in the news!

Anyway, about the Japanese thingie diay, I have the agree that the Japanese really needs to be lauded jud at least sa statue sa may Sangunian. not that I'm pro-Japanese or anything, but I think the Japanese really did something for the city.

Puyde mam pod Spanish and American and Chinese, but were it not for the Japanese (and their maverick style of hardship) Davao might have not the prestige today.

Wala ko gahagit og away... :D

Ady001
July 31st, 2006, 05:47 AM
Condolence Lena, I know you may not know me, but my deepest condolences.

I always wanted to go to Sweden to meet Ingmar Bergman, or go to Trollhatan and watch the makers of Saab.

Davao is very unlike Sweden. No old buildings, but what makes Davao unique is its cosmopolitan atmosphere, lovely beaches and friendly people.

Ady001
July 31st, 2006, 05:48 AM
^^ I first saw the ledge dancers near the autoshop bar, and boy how secluded the place! People were dancing, girls were on the top, and I could do nothing but shake my booty. :D :D :D

Ady001
July 31st, 2006, 05:50 AM
BTW, any updates about the Kadayawan?

If there are 2 places that need a renovation in Davao, it would be the:

A. Magsaysay Park
B. Victoria Plaza

Places of my childhood. I remembered skating in Magsaysay.
Victoria has still some charm, but its drawing power isn't the same as before.

Animo
July 31st, 2006, 07:16 AM
WHEN Pearl Farm Resort's general manager Juan Roca came to Davao in 2004 to assume his new role of managing the Fuego Hotels, I was one of his first few friends from the media.

Lifestyle writer Jinggoy Salvador and I first introduced him around the nightspots of Davao and friend. The first term he liked was "ginpom." Little did he know what awaited him in the future.

I remembered my interview with him about his plans for the resort. Though quite young at 28 back then (Fuego Hotels are known for their young and skilled managers), he had a good command of responsibilities, coming from an impressive background of a family hotel business in Spain with his Dad as boss. Of course, with a Bachelor's degree in Business and Tourism Administration, he wanted to see more of the world, and flew to Dominican Republic to manage a beach resort.

Eventually, the offer of Fuego Hotels for him to work in an unfamiliar territory in the Philippines was too tempting to resist. This is how he landed at Pearl Farm two years ago, and what he saw of Davao impressed him immediately.

Since then, Juan is no stranger to Dabawenyos. He has easily adapted to our culture and traits, and with his down-to-earth personality, has made more friends than most foreigners who have lived here longer. I have warned him of the Filipina's endearing qualities of charm and character that mysteriously pull foreigners in (Former GM Xavi Gimeno also married a beautiful Samaleña).

Fast forward to the present. Juan majestically towered in his all-white ensemble, barefooted during a reception, which was slightly interrupted by evening showers. It did not diminish the beauty of the special affair as Juan gazed into the eyes of his equally statuesque Filipina wife, Joan Caf‚. He has finally married the girl of his dreams in a foreign land. Crooners Bimbo Cerrudo and Pinky Marquez sang serenades in the background.

Apart from his beloved family flying in from his homeland, the impressive and exclusive guest list of the resort chic-inspired wedding included Doña Nenita
Floirendo, Ricky Floirendo, Marco Polo GM Stanley Lau, Heni Smits, Mikel Arriet, John Gayoso, Dr. Albert Pinggoy, Dr. Charles Sutter, Susan Salcedo, Liza Morales, Araceli Pe Benito, Pinky Marquez, Bimbo & Reena Cerrudo, Robert & Anna Utley, Oscar & Claudia Garcia, Mr. & Mrs. Geoffrey Linkemer, Mr. & Mrs. Jimmy Gomez, Mr. & Mrs. Claude Le Neindre, Mr. & Mrs. Cacho, Mr. & Mrs. Jose Miguel Cortes, the Pattraka family, to name a few.

The wedding entourage is composed of Alfredo Roca and Ulla Pattraka (groom's parents); Ethelbert Caf‚ and Victoria Caf‚ (bride's parents); Principal sponsors Albert Ancla, Alfredo P. Roca, Alma Garduque, Ana Balcells; Maid of Honor Christine Marie Caf‚; Best Man Ignacio Saenz; Bridesmaids Lacely June Encarnacion and Jessa Elaine Ancla; Groomsmen Brenstone Allen Ancla and Christian Lester Caf‚; Sponsors Alfredo Roca and Venus Ancla; Veil Sponsors Alex Groizard and Audrey Felyn Garduque; Cord Sponsors Mark Lemuel Caf‚ and Krysta Andrea Sempio; Flower Girls Julianne Ariel Garduque and Alyssa Gwen Garduque; Ring Bearer Kyle Gabriel Caf‚ and Coin Bearer Andre Simon Caf‚; Bible Bearer Rency Corales.

The night sky was illuminated by fireworks, a fitting start to a fairytale marriage, when bride and groom shared a kiss under an umbrella. Thank you Juan, for inviting me on your special day (he fondly calls me Bruja because of the La Bruja chocolate bars I collect), and to Joan, may you remain to be the gently quiet and supportive beside your man for always.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/dav/2006/07/21/life/a.blend.of.two.cultures.html

Animo
July 31st, 2006, 07:19 AM
Places of my childhood. I remembered skating in Magsaysay.
Victoria has still some charm, but its drawing power isn't the same as before.

I believe I have only been to Magsaysay once or twice in the early 90's. I know that it got a bit ugly. Victoria Plaza is a little bit down, since the opening of Gaisano Mall.

WawaY[625]
July 31st, 2006, 07:35 AM
@ least Gaisano Mall is undergoing a "sort of" renovation..notice the new shops and how they have the same stoire fronts? plus i think G-mall's interior were repainted

tj_brewed
July 31st, 2006, 08:28 AM
@ least Gaisano Mall is undergoing a "sort of" renovation..notice the new shops and how they have the same stoire fronts? plus i think G-mall's interior were repainted

thank God...it's bout time! :) :)

@Ady001 - ei lil bro...be thankful na naay UP sa Davao oi... BETTER LATE THAN NEVER!!!!!!!! balik balika na! pasalamat ka...kay sa tibuok Mindanao.....Naa ang UP Campus dinha sa Davao......1970s? intawon, ayaw pud pag expect ana ka sayo bro oi......

just be thankful okie dokie! i really hate ur philosophy..katong gotta do with Better Not Made than Made Late...unsa ba to...ambot kalimot ko! If mao nay philosophy sa mga tao...Way moprosper!

anyway...hope to see ya when i visit Davao! Take care!

scandinavian girl
July 31st, 2006, 08:43 AM
Condolence Lena, I know you may not know me, but my deepest condolences.

I always wanted to go to Sweden to meet Ingmar Bergman, or go to Trollhatan and watch the makers of Saab.

Davao is very unlike Sweden. No old buildings, but what makes Davao unique is its cosmopolitan atmosphere, lovely beaches and friendly people.


Ady001 Thank you for your friendly thoughts. I apreciate them.
Do you like Ingmar Bergmans movies? He did a few very good onse. Like "Whispers and cries","Persona", "the 7th seal"<--(not the animal :) the onse in the Bible, in Revelation it is about a chessplayer and his play with death) Ingmar Bergman also supported and inspierd many good actor and actresses like Liv Ullman, Max von Sydow, and many less international known preformers. He is still active, over 80 in age but he does not filmamaking he works only with stageplays now, on our big theater in Stockholm, named Dramaten. Did you see the movie "Fanny and Alexander" his last movie? I really like that one.
The makers of Swedish Saab did unfortunatley sell out to an American compay, General Motors. Still the car is a good one and rated as a good safe familycar.
Yes I "heared" so much good and also interesting about Davao, it will be a joy to see and experience your city. I hope you get to go to Sweden some day. My country is also nice, but in another way then the Philippines of course. Maybe we can be your guide here in the future!You are always welcome.:)
BTW i really like your artistic avatare:) Nice.

Nice to "meet you" Ady001:)

tj_brewed
July 31st, 2006, 08:44 AM
BTW, any updates about the Kadayawan?

If there are 2 places that need a renovation in Davao, it would be the:

A. Magsaysay Park
B. Victoria Plaza

Places of my childhood. I remembered skating in Magsaysay.
Victoria has still some charm, but its drawing power isn't the same as before.

The local government can never touch Magsaysay Park..its under Philippine Tourism Authority!

Victoria Plaza? sana..............

updates about Kadayawan? www.kadayawan.com

Hi Lena.....I've heard the news...I'm so sorry bout what happened.....

tj_brewed
July 31st, 2006, 08:51 AM
@TJ

Re;Ledge sa pops..LEDGE KA DYAN!! lols


Ledge! Ledge! Ledge! :bleep: :bleep: I wanna be on the ledge! :bleep: ehehehehehehhe

The first time i got drunk....was on the ledge! ehehehhe but to set the record straight! D na me umiinom ah..that was the first and last!

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/vudu.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/tj_brewed/Mypix/vudu2.jpg

Kadayawan here i come! Party! Party! Party! Davao is one heck of a PARTY CAPITAL!

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 09:04 AM
Are you sure it is a man?? Is he/she even from Davao? Evidence show it is a person form Davao, maybe not always stationed there but definitly a Davao person. About gender, well it is a mixed up situation...if I did not know I would believe it is a woman due to certain evidence in this forum but it is a man he himself said so once asked about it.. Have you investigated carefully? If, you have found clues, yes, that point in that direction ----------> look carefully at photoes precented here and in the istorynet. Then you will know who it is. That is all I say in this matter. I admire Malaysia for all his courage and he is a nice person and very, very wise especially in some matters regarding competition in here between cities from various islands.....maybe I am wrong but all clues lead to this person....so gentlemen of Davao and outside it to, wishing you a very nice night and a good tomorrow! :) :) :)

:goodbye:
oright! now you're closing in to ***? hahaha
let me guess the shortlisted names in your mind, hmmm...
stationd in london now..., germany...., philippines..., usa...., canada..., aust..., nooooope. close to sweden! hahaha.

all i know..., :D
if you're a christian, he's one of jesus' guests in the last supper. (unsa connection? none:D


roll of forumers in ?random:D

bustero
huistenmark
rajah
hezron
xzibit
garvy addict
ady
problemsolver
melon
davao eagle
junax
junex
tj
sleepwalker
dinabaw
mtapo
simplyme
dvocity
abskess
scandinabawenya girl
kinsa pa... hahaha

... what if maalaysia is not a scc forumer. think again lena! hahaha.




Maayong Hapon Davao!









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junax
July 31st, 2006, 09:04 AM
^^ good day davao!

i was out for 2 days (as i've said, monday-friday shift ako hehehe), and my goodness! thread 17 is already halfway there. and also (as i browsed thru pages) there was this "malaysian" search thing going on. hmmmm, i don't know if i will be complimented or otherwise vanished if i will humbly say... yes! i am the malaysian warrior who went to battle in some forums to defend my homeland, ready to die for it but with the true intention of informing others and creating peace instead of some bloody sunday. thank god, peace prevailed and it produced winners instead of losers, we're all filipinos afterall. i love davao city but i can not showcase davao without loving other cities too, i'd rather be noble than braggart. to gravy, dinabaw, sleepwalker, davaoeagle, raja, tj, scandinavian and the rest of the gang, no need to wonder anymore, i am ready for punishments you will impose upon me, tagsa tagsa lang ha, pwede ko ninyo kusion pero ayaw lang sa may ilok dapit kay gilok hehehe.

and to scandinavian, for mentioning malmo in one of my posts, here's one of the reason why i love sweden too, abi nimo si dinabaw ray ganahan? ahahaha :) sweden is indeed a very beautiful country.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f142/kododoy/malmosweden.jpg




:):):)

davaoeagle
July 31st, 2006, 09:22 AM
:cheers: So the witchhunt is concluded, Junax is Malaysia and Malaysia is Junax. A round of applause please for the display of bravery by Junax. I tip my hat off to you for fighting tooth and nail for Davao and the immense prudence for eventually letting peace and quiet be the rule of the day for said forum.

Asa ra to si Gravy kay ang 1 round of red horse for all who placed their bets...LOL

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

davaoeagle
July 31st, 2006, 09:26 AM
Here's another hunt for us Davaoenos..the hunt for the name of the Davao Greenbelt....

Duterte wants PTA named after donors
By Romeo R. Braceros Jr.

MAYOR Rodrigo Duterte has asked city government officials to name the PTA grounds after its donors. "We are still evaluating what to name the park," said City Administrator Wendel Avisado, pointing out that the mayor is insisting that the area, which the city government is converting into a primary family park, be named after the donors.

The park was donated by the Monteverde family, although some members of the family tried to wrest its ownership from the city government. In a court battle, the city government prevailed over the Monteverde family.

In the television program “Gikan sa Masa, Para sa Masa” over ABS-CBN, Avisado revealed that the city government has yet to intensify the transformation of the PTA grounds into a park because the Land Bank of the Philippines has yet to release the loan for the project.

"Slowly we are continuing our construction of the PTA into a park through some funds provided by the city government," Avisado said. Avisado said he expects the release of the loan by early September as the city government intends to open it to the public before the end of the year.

Duterte and other local officials will also attend the tree planting activity at the park today, he said. Avisado said aside also attending the activity is lawyer-industrialist Jesus Ayala, chair of the Regional Development Council, who donated the seedlings for the activity.

scandinavian girl
July 31st, 2006, 09:30 AM
very nice rebuttal inday lena :)... I respect wittgenstein's philosophical dialectic (but i have never been a fan of the vienna circle) ...yeah perhaps we just have to continue on hugging (conversely bashing) each other without understanding why we hug (or bash)....anyway that's the case most of the time...now to make this thread a bit sticky, a picture for you Inday Lena

this is where gravy_addict presumably spends most of his time after office hours :laugh:

rajah, thank you for the mental gymnastics. I have a question. Inday=girl? I have understood through some communication earlier in a previous Davao thread that inday can mean different things. Would you like to explain to me:) I did not clearly understand what is what? I guess it is that reference business again:)? Do you think I could find the meaning of these terms in Hempel´s "Fundamentals of Concept Formation in Emperical Science"? The meaning of meaning is driving me crazy :laugh:

Perhaps it is the warmth and human touch that underling our conversation which is the real dialectic, polysemics or Wittgenstein aside? I like hugs more then bashing:)I am after Plato and Kepler a lover of the harmony of the spheres and when these planets move through space there accures silent tones in a harmony to each other and tó the whole, like these planets we make noice moving through space seaking a "sensus communis".Your thougths and the group here as a whole moving through space are music to my ears. :angel:

Rain in Sweden today so, so nice , but as you said in your e-mail, hot weather is on it´s way back. Time again for alot of mineralwater :booze:

scandinavian girl
July 31st, 2006, 09:49 AM
^^ good day davao!

i was out for 2 days (as i've said, monday-friday shift ako hehehe), and my goodness! thread 17 is already halfway there. and also (as i browsed thru pages) there was this "malaysian" search thing going on. hmmmm, i don't know if i will be complimented or otherwise vanished if i will humbly say... yes! i am the malaysian warrior who went to battle in some forums to defend my homeland, ready to die for it but with the true intention of informing others and creating peace instead of some bloody sunday. thank god, peace prevailed and it produced winners instead of losers, we're all filipinos afterall. i love davao city but i can not showcase davao without loving other cities too, i'd rather be noble than braggart. to gravy, dinabaw, sleepwalker, davaoeagle, raja, tj, scandinavian and the rest of the gang, no need to wonder anymore, i am ready for punishments you will impose upon me, tagsa tagsa lang ha, pwede ko ninyo kusion pero ayaw lang sa may ilok dapit kay gilok hehehe.

and to scandinavian, for mentioning malmo in one of my posts, here's one of the reason why i love sweden too, abi nimo si dinabaw ray ganahan? ahahaha :) sweden is indeed a very beautiful country.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f142/kododoy/malmosweden.jpg




:):):)


Junax :applause: as I said in my presentation of mysterious Malaysia you are a man of courage and for that I admire you also for your good will of keeping peace in this forum :)

Thanks for putting nice pictures of Malmö in here. I live outside the city and my home is very close by the bridge to Copenhagen..seen on the picture you posted...the bridge I mean.

A very nice day to you Junax!:)

junax
July 31st, 2006, 10:00 AM
^^ thank you davaoeagle and lena. hmmm, with all that betting, i guess somebody's gonna pay for my beer this coming davao ssc meet. hahaha. when and where? the first meet at SM, i was almost there, almost for being there but not quite. ang gulo no? hehe, niadto man gud ko pero wala ko niduol sa ila kay sige ko pangita sa SSC banner unya wala man nako nakita, naunhan ko sa kaulaw, ni shy away na lang ko, pero sa next meet. i'm game!

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 10:21 AM
^^ thank you davaoeagle and lena. hmmm, with all that betting, i guess somebody's gonna pay for my beer this coming davao ssc meet. hahaha. when and where? the first meet at SM, i was almost there, almost for being there but not quite. ang gulo no? hehe, niadto man gud ko pero wala ko niduol sa ila kay sige ko pangita sa SSC banner unya wala man nako nakita, naunhan ko sa kaulaw, ni shy away na lang ko, pero sa next meet. i'm game!
bai junax: incognito no more! thanx for putting a face to malysia:D :applause: :applause: :applause:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h73/davao_world/avatar1.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h73/davao_world/avatar95799_11.jpg




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junax
July 31st, 2006, 10:31 AM
^^ hehehe nice face there mtapo, for gravy's body.... we need arms, who's apocusp? :)


for the PTA park name:
1. greenbelt de monteverde
2. the berde park (greenpark hahaha)
3. monteverde park
4. ???

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 10:44 AM
^^ hehehe nice face there mtapo, for gravy's body.... we need arms, who's apocusp? :)


for the PTA park name:
1. greenbelt de monteverde
2. the berde park (greenpark hahaha)
3. monteverde park
4. ???
apocusp is not mtapo. but the name is loud and clear:D, i guess haha
ask gravy, looks like he knew him:D


4. mt apo millenium square garden



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Bagani
July 31st, 2006, 10:49 AM
Greetings from Dubai! I'm a Davaoeño now based here in Dubai. This is my first time to post a message and still familiarizing myself with Skyscrapercity. I've been following the thread since Thread 10 pa yata. I hope welcome ko dinhi sa forum.

I'd like to share some info about Magsaysay Park. I was a member of the technical team that conceptualized for the development of the Park in 1991. There was an agreement between the City Government and the Philippine Tourism Authority (PTA) to lease the site for 25 years and develop it into a premier waterfront park. Part of the agreement was for the City to clear Isla Verde (?) from illegal settlers so that there'll be an unobstructed view of Samal Island, and.f course, to clean the area. But it did not happen. After all voters din ang madi-displace.

The 2-storey building at the southeast corner is the restaurant building with a balcony as area for al fresco dining. Pero Kanaway of the Biraogo's lang ang nisukol sa rent sa space which at that time mahal na. That explains ngano gi-convert na lang ang uban spaces into offices (DOT XI, PTA, DFA and PIA). Kanaway survived for a number of years with the al fresco dining area rarely used kay ang view from the balcony, instead of Samal Island, ang squatters. I learned from a friend who used to work in City Hall, nga ang Isla Verde gi-turnover na sa mga informal settlers. Meaning, they are already legally occupying the area. Sad.

Magsaysay Park was heavily subsidized by PTA. It wasn't earning but the City already asked for its share of the profit as agreed. Losses pwede pa. So, in 2005, PTA and the City amicably terminated the lease contract. Magsaysay Park is now with the City Government. So, hopefully, after Greenbelt and Chinatown, dapat Magsaysay Park na. It could be integrated either in the Chinatown Development or the Marina Development in Sta. Ana.

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 11:01 AM
Greetings from Dubai! I'm a Davaoeño now based here in Dubai. This is my first time to post a message and still familiarizing myself with Skyscrapercity. I've been following the thread since Thread 10 pa yata. I hope welcome ko dinhi sa forum.

I'd like to share some info about Magsaysay Park. I was a member of the technical team that conceptualized for the development of the Park in 1991. There was an agreement between the City Government and the Philippine Tourism Authority (PTA) to lease the site for 25 years and develop it into a premier waterfront park. Part of the agreement was for the City to clear Isla Verde (?) from illegal settlers so that there'll be an unobstructed view of Samal Island, and.f course, to clean the area. But it did not happen. After all voters din ang madi-displace.

The 2-storey building at the southeast corner is the restaurant building with a balcony as area for al fresco dining. Pero Kanaway of the Biraogo's lang ang nisukol sa rent sa space which at that time mahal na. That explains ngano gi-convert na lang ang uban spaces into offices (DOT XI, PTA, DFA and PIA). Kanaway survived for a number of years with the al fresco dining area rarely used kay ang view from the balcony, instead of Samal Island, ang squatters. I learned from a friend who used to work in City Hall, nga ang Isla Verde gi-turnover na sa mga informal settlers. Meaning, they are already legally occupying the area. Sad.

Magsaysay Park was heavily subsidized by PTA. It wasn't earning but the City already asked for its share of the profit as agreed. Losses pwede pa. So, in 2005, PTA and the City amicably terminated the lease contract. Magsaysay Park is now with the City Government. So, hopefully, after Greenbelt and Chinatown, dapat Magsaysay Park na. It could be integrated either in the Chinatown Development or the Marina Development in Sta. Ana.
welcome to the thread bagani. keep posting and if you have time, please join in the discussions:) share your knowledge anything about davao that we don't know. kanang good news nga makakuyapan mi! enjoy your stay here



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WawaY[625]
July 31st, 2006, 11:44 AM
.............lurking..............

welcome to SSC BAGANI

dinabaw
July 31st, 2006, 11:50 AM
^^Oi gravy ang beer ha ! hehehe .... 1 pa ka beer kinsa si apocusp :cheers:

welcome bagani !!!

WawaY[625]
July 31st, 2006, 11:51 AM
haha..naa ka 1 shot sa akoa..haha

Bagani
July 31st, 2006, 11:59 AM
Thank you, Sir.

Maybe I could start with the Chinese investors through there Philippine counterpart that I helped touchbase with Davao decision-makers. I was approached in early 2005 by a friend of mine who is the country manager of an Australian consultancy firm - huge company, as in bigtime. We were discussing then Panglao Airport in Bohol because their Chinese partners signified interest in cornering the contract - from pre-feasibility, feasibility, detailed engineering, to construction. I told her, why not convince your Chinese partners to invest in Davao. She said, dapat not less than US$10M. I wanted so much for Davao City to have a sewerage treatment plant (STP). So, gi-suggest nako. Pero gamay daw. Gidungag nako coastal road. Go na daw. All they asked was for the City to write a letter to the Chinese inviting them to explore the City to check investment sites. I used my connections, for love of Davao, and I was able to secure a letter and subsequently got a reply from the Chinese. First step was for their pinoy counterpart to meet with City Hall first to arrange details of the visit, pero walay nahitabo. Kung unsa'ng reason, wala nako kahibalo. Kung kinsa sa City hall ang responsible? Not the Mayor, but somebody who heads one of his departments. And the trip was never scheduled. Sayang.

Bagani
July 31st, 2006, 12:02 PM
Thank you, mga amigos!

dinabaw
July 31st, 2006, 12:05 PM
Oi heard about greenbelt park (berde park as Junax coined) gina patugtugan daw ug kanta " i will survive " hahaha ...ummmm wawa naman pag di magsurvive and mga puno!

WawaY[625]
July 31st, 2006, 12:09 PM
Thank you, Sir.

Maybe I could start with the Chinese investors through there Philippine counterpart that I helped touchbase with Davao decision-makers. I was approached in early 2005 by a friend of mine who is the country manager of an Australian consultancy firm - huge company, as in bigtime. We were discussing then Panglao Airport in Bohol because their Chinese partners signified interest in cornering the contract - from pre-feasibility, feasibility, detailed engineering, to construction. I told her, why not convince your Chinese partners to invest in Davao. She said, dapat not less than US$10M. I wanted so much for Davao City to have a sewerage treatment plant (STP). So, gi-suggest nako. Pero gamay daw. Gidungag nako coastal road. Go na daw. All they asked was for the City to write a letter to the Chinese inviting them to explore the City to check investment sites. I used my connections, for love of Davao, and I was able to secure a letter and subsequently got a reply from the Chinese. First step was for their pinoy counterpart to meet with City Hall first to arrange details of the visit, pero walay nahitabo. Kung unsa'ng reason, wala nako kahibalo. Kung kinsa sa City hall ang responsible? Not the Mayor, but somebody who heads one of his departments. And the trip was never scheduled. Sayang.

awwww..classic example of some of our local officials pagka SMART..as in smart wifulos..

how many times has things like this happened na? if not for those "SMART" guiys we have layo na siguro ng narating ng Davao...sino ba yang mga kubrador na yan sa City Hall at Sanggunian?


Oi heard about greenbelt park (berde park as Junax coined) gina patugtugan daw ug kanta " i will survive " hahaha ...ummmm wawa naman pag di magsurvive and mga puno!


haha..mabhui unta oi..si FLOATER (aka JC) ako gipa station sa may Camus para if naa makuyapan nga punoan iya i mouth to mouth.haha

Bagani
July 31st, 2006, 12:22 PM
awwww..classic example of some of our local officials pagka SMART..as in smart wifulos..

how many times has things like this happened na? if not for those "SMART" guiys we have layo na siguro ng narating ng Davao...sino ba yang mga kubrador na yan sa City Hall at Sanggunian?

When I was still in the Philippines, even if I'm Manila-based, daghan gihapon kaayo ko nadungog nga "urban legends". I'll refrain first from sharing horror stories. I'll think of something positive to say. I hope na-a.

scandinavian girl
July 31st, 2006, 12:35 PM
^^Oi gravy ang beer ha ! hehehe .... 1 pa ka beer kinsa si apocusp :cheers:

welcome bagani !!!

I say welcome bagani to :)

Dinabaw long time not seen ummmmm mooooaaahhhhh***:kiss:... dinabaw. missed you min älskling. När ska du komma och hämta mig här i Sverige så vi får vara tillsammans ???:)

dinabaw
July 31st, 2006, 12:36 PM
Hi Lena yeah your busy in sky ... ok give you a :kiss: and :hug: sorry boys just hugs for you!!!

Wow thats s a big lost Bagani STP is one of the mayors project , maybe you better approach the mayor then , you can still convince the Chinese to build an STP?

dinabaw
July 31st, 2006, 12:44 PM
nice video sleep !!!ai kulaskusgan diay ...:okay:

habagatcentral1
July 31st, 2006, 01:04 PM
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/dvogold.jpg

KulasKusgan
July 31st, 2006, 01:08 PM
The local government can never touch Magsaysay Park..its under Philippine Tourism Authority!

Victoria Plaza? sana..............

updates about Kadayawan? www.kadayawan.com

Hi Lena.....I've heard the news...I'm so sorry bout what happened.....

Ive heard the Philippine Tourism Authority turned over the administration of Magsaysay Park to Davao City govt. Same with Sta Ana Wharf, from Phil Ports Authority to City Govt.

KulasKusgan
July 31st, 2006, 01:22 PM
^^ hehehe nice face there mtapo, for gravy's body.... we need arms, who's apocusp? :)


for the PTA park name:
1. greenbelt de monteverde
2. the berde park (greenpark hahaha)
3. monteverde park
4. ???


4. mt apo millenium square garden
.

5. Kapitan Tomas Park

^^ good day davao!

i was out for 2 days (as i've said, monday-friday shift ako hehehe), and my goodness! thread 17 is already halfway there. and also (as i browsed thru pages) there was this "malaysian" search thing going on. hmmmm, i don't know if i will be complimented or otherwise vanished if i will humbly say... yes! i am the malaysian warrior who went to battle in some forums to defend my homeland, ready to die for it but with the true intention of informing others and creating peace instead of some bloody sunday. thank god, peace prevailed and it produced winners instead of losers, we're all filipinos afterall. i love davao city but i can not showcase davao without loving other cities too, i'd rather be noble than braggart. to gravy, dinabaw, sleepwalker, davaoeagle, raja, tj, scandinavian and the rest of the gang, no need to wonder anymore, i am ready for punishments you will impose upon me, tagsa tagsa lang ha, pwede ko ninyo kusion pero ayaw lang sa may ilok dapit kay gilok hehehe.

and to scandinavian, for mentioning malmo in one of my posts, here's one of the reason why i love sweden too, abi nimo si dinabaw ray ganahan? ahahaha :) sweden is indeed a very beautiful country.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f142/kododoy/malmosweden.jpg




:):):)

:eek2: what a beautiful place! modern at the same time historical, clean and green.

Lena, youre so lucky.

Bagani
July 31st, 2006, 01:26 PM
Wow thats s a big lost Bagani STP is one of the mayors project , maybe you better approach the mayor then , you can still convince the Chinese to build an STP?

I'll be in Manila in December. I'll try to get in touch with the Chinese's pinoy counterpart. If the STP materializes, if I'm not mistaken, it would be the 5th in the country - after Manila, Baguio, Boracay (newest), and Zamboanga (vintage - built by the Americans). It should be a major component of the Davao Gulf conservation effort. By the way, I made a short technical paper on Davao Gulf Coastal Zone Development while in Australia 12 years ago.

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 01:58 PM
I'll be in Manila in December. I'll try to get in touch with the Chinese's pinoy counterpart. If the STP materializes, if I'm not mistaken, it would be the 4th in the country - after Manila, Baguio (newest), and Zamboanga (vintage - built by the Americans). It should be a major component of the Davao Gulf conservation effort. By the way, I made a short technical paper on Davao Gulf Coastal Zone Development while in Australia 12 years ago.
can yougive us the highlights of what's in that paper bai bagani. and curious here to know waht happened next and where is it now. salamat





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KulasKusgan
July 31st, 2006, 02:05 PM
Greetings from Dubai! I'm a Davaoeño now based here in Dubai. This is my first time to post a message and still familiarizing myself with Skyscrapercity. I've been following the thread since Thread 10 pa yata. I hope welcome ko dinhi sa forum.

I'd like to share some info about Magsaysay Park. I was a member of the technical team that conceptualized for the development of the Park in 1991. There was an agreement between the City Government and the Philippine Tourism Authority (PTA) to lease the site for 25 years and develop it into a premier waterfront park. Part of the agreement was for the City to clear Isla Verde (?) from illegal settlers so that there'll be an unobstructed view of Samal Island, and.f course, to clean the area. But it did not happen. After all voters din ang madi-displace.

The 2-storey building at the southeast corner is the restaurant building with a balcony as area for al fresco dining. Pero Kanaway of the Biraogo's lang ang nisukol sa rent sa space which at that time mahal na. That explains ngano gi-convert na lang ang uban spaces into offices (DOT XI, PTA, DFA and PIA). Kanaway survived for a number of years with the al fresco dining area rarely used kay ang view from the balcony, instead of Samal Island, ang squatters. I learned from a friend who used to work in City Hall, nga ang Isla Verde gi-turnover na sa mga informal settlers. Meaning, they are already legally occupying the area. Sad.

Magsaysay Park was heavily subsidized by PTA. It wasn't earning but the City already asked for its share of the profit as agreed. Losses pwede pa. So, in 2005, PTA and the City amicably terminated the lease contract. Magsaysay Park is now with the City Government. So, hopefully, after Greenbelt and Chinatown, dapat Magsaysay Park na. It could be integrated either in the Chinatown Development or the Marina Development in Sta. Ana.

Welcome Bagani!

Ive heard Palafox wanted to develop a marina in that area.

Are you a/from Palafox?

KulasKusgan
July 31st, 2006, 02:08 PM
nice video sleep !!!ai kulaskusgan diay ...:okay:

kinsa na si sleep? :hahaha:

WawaY[625]
July 31st, 2006, 02:12 PM
Ive heard the Philippine Tourism Authority turned over the administration of Magsaysay Park to Davao City govt. Same with Sta Ana Wharf, from Phil Ports Authority to City Govt.

uhhmmm and maybe in 25 years the sta ana pier will be developed..

just an info

Pier is perpendicular to the shore line
wharf is parallel

hence sta. ana pier and sasa wharf...:D

Bagani
July 31st, 2006, 02:45 PM
can yougive us the highlights of what's in that paper bai bagani. and curious here to know waht happened next and where is it now. salamat .

It was a school requirement. The highlight is very appropriate in this Thread - the wastes in the highlands will surely find their way to the islands. Protection of the Davao Gulf should be integrated with watershed protection, agricultural activities regulation (i.e. use pesticide, etc.), erosion control in the highlands, urban solid and sewerage collection, treatment and disposal, etc. If you want coastal tourism to prosper, protect the Gulf by protecting the highlands.

If you read it, it's like an Executive Brief of an in-depth study. But it was meant to jumpstart a major government effort to save the Davao Gulf, and this study was connected with the Ekran Berhad resort in Kaputian. I was sent to Australia because of the Samal Island development. I was supposed to apply some conservation concepts in the development, pero na-politika ko. Long story. In short, when I came back from my study, di na ako involve sa Samal. And if you check RDC XI, you'll know kung gaano kapalpak ang ginawa ng gov't sa infra component ng Samal devt. Dili ko mahuman diri kung i-istorya nako tanan.

If there are more queries on Samal out there, kung alam ko, I'll be happy to provide the info.

paulkrps
July 31st, 2006, 02:51 PM
welcome diay bagani. post away.

Bagani
July 31st, 2006, 02:56 PM
Welcome Bagani!

Ive heard Palafox wanted to develop a marina in that area.

Are you a/from Palafox?

Thank you, Sir.

No, I'm not from Palafox. But I've read the study made by Palafox. Very ambitious but realistic. Palafox is just the master planner, but investments will come from Europe. Money was ready then. One reason why it didn't take off is the ownership of Sta.Ana. It's still not Davao City's property. PPA pa gihapon ang tag-iya but just given the City control over the management but it prohibits the City to enter into a contract with a 3rd party to develop it. A Presidential Proclamation was drafted purposely to declare Sta. Ana as a tourist zone. Not just a tourist zone but a tourism enterprise zone with the same concept as the Export Processing Zones. The PD, supposedly, will transfer total ownership to the City. Again, same old story, napolitica, na-abtan ug election.

Bagani
July 31st, 2006, 02:57 PM
welcome diay bagani. post away.
Thank You, Sir.

WawaY[625]
July 31st, 2006, 02:58 PM
haaaay palitan na lagi nang mga politiko nato..ibilin lang si konsehal..ug si bonguyan..ug si id acaylar..hehe

paulkrps
July 31st, 2006, 03:13 PM
Thank you, Sir.

No, I'm not from Palafox. But I've read the study made by Palafox. Very ambitious but realistic. Palafox is just the master planner, but investments will come from Europe. Money was ready then. One reason why it didn't take off is the ownership of Sta.Ana. It's still not Davao City's property. PPA pa gihapon ang tag-iya but just given the City control over the management but it prohibits the City to enter into a contract with a 3rd party to develop it. A Presidential Proclamation was drafted purposely to declare Sta. Ana as a tourist zone. Not just a tourist zone but a tourism enterprise zone with the same concept as the Export Processing Zones. The PD, supposedly, will transfer total ownership to the City. Again, same old story, napolitica, na-abtan ug election.

i dunno if it's politics or the laws that's complicating many things in our country. fact is that these are the same that's hindering us from moving forward. imagine this, by the time a baby come's out of his/her mother's womb, it will be a struggle between city/municipal or provincial or national? before kinahanglan kag birth certificate adto lang ka sa city hall or munisipyo. karon, pati nso apil na, and the wait is endless. so now, kay it was ruled that the national id is consitutional, guess how long will the implementation be? and just imagine the documention needed para ka lang makakuha sa imong id. just imagine kung kinsay responsible motype ana. just imagine kinsay moaprob sa sa logo. just imagine sa asang jurisdiction morelease sa id. just imagine unsang klaseng colour sa id. just imagine kinsay mo laminate. just imagine kinsay moangkon sa credit. just imagine, hayyyyy, imagina na laaaaaaanggggggggg.

paulkrps
July 31st, 2006, 03:19 PM
thanks for finding this music of the great Davaoeno artist-Joey Ayala. It reminds me of my college days when this song swept us all off our feet.

yup. best love song ever - walang hanggang paalam.

dinabaw
July 31st, 2006, 03:49 PM
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MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 03:53 PM
It was a school requirement. The highlight is very appropriate in this Thread - the wastes in the highlands will surely find their way to the islands. Protection of the Davao Gulf should be integrated with watershed protection, agricultural activities regulation (i.e. use pesticide, etc.), erosion control in the highlands, urban solid and sewerage collection, treatment and disposal, etc. If you want coastal tourism to prosper, protect the Gulf by protecting the highlands.

If you read it, it's like an Executive Brief of an in-depth study. But it was meant to jumpstart a major government effort to save the Davao Gulf, and this study was connected with the Ekran Berhad resort in Kaputian. I was sent to Australia because of the Samal Island development. I was supposed to apply some conservation concepts in the development, pero na-politika ko. Long story. In short, when I came back from my study, di na ako involve sa Samal. And if you check RDC XI, you'll know kung gaano kapalpak ang ginawa ng gov't sa infra component ng Samal devt. Dili ko mahuman diri kung i-istorya nako tanan.

If there are more queries on Samal out there, kung alam ko, I'll be happy to provide the info.
ok thanks bai. wanna ask agin if you have any idea why was samal davao suspension bridge project shelved. was it because of negative environmental impact? there was report last year about resurrecting the project study by ?another group. there was a rumor too the project was blocked by big resort owners of samal? are there big infrastructure components in your study. i mean something with engineering or architectural impact on davao that can become a landmark something.





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MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 03:59 PM
Thank you, Sir.

No, I'm not from Palafox. But I've read the study made by Palafox. Very ambitious but realistic. Palafox is just the master planner, but investments will come from Europe. Money was ready then. One reason why it didn't take off is the ownership of Sta.Ana. It's still not Davao City's property. PPA pa gihapon ang tag-iya but just given the City control over the management but it prohibits the City to enter into a contract with a 3rd party to develop it. A Presidential Proclamation was drafted purposely to declare Sta. Ana as a tourist zone. Not just a tourist zone but a tourism enterprise zone with the same concept as the Export Processing Zones. The PD, supposedly, will transfer total ownership to the City. Again, same old story, napolitica, na-abtan ug election.
is presidential proclamation and PD the same?

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 04:03 PM
haaaay palitan na lagi nang mga politiko nato..ibilin lang si konsehal..ug si bonguyan..ug si id acaylar..hehe
id acaylar is the local counterpart of tourism secretary?






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WawaY[625]
July 31st, 2006, 04:08 PM
sort of..he (or she..hehe) is head of tourism comtee ata.. but does an ok job of prmoting davao

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 04:11 PM
i dunno if it's politics or the laws that's complicating many things in our country. fact is that these are the same that's hindering us from moving forward. imagine this, by the time a baby come's out of his/her mother's womb, it will be a struggle between city/municipal or provincial or national? before kinahanglan kag birth certificate adto lang ka sa city hall or munisipyo. karon, pati nso apil na, and the wait is endless. so now, kay it was ruled that the national id is consitutional, guess how long will the implementation be? and just imagine the documention needed para ka lang makakuha sa imong id. just imagine kung kinsay responsible motype ana. just imagine kinsay moaprob sa sa logo. just imagine sa asang jurisdiction morelease sa id. just imagine unsang klaseng colour sa id. just imagine kinsay mo laminate. just imagine kinsay moangkon sa credit. just imagine, hayyyyy, imagina na laaaaaaanggggggggg.
guess both are complicating the flow of the system. laws were adulterated to become flexibe to accommodate personal interest. i mean they were politicized laws. if there is such a thing. pardon me for being me :bash:



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paulkrps
July 31st, 2006, 04:15 PM
id acaylar is the local counterpart of tourism minister?
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yups, heads the city tourism office. a very colourful character. worked with him in several theatre productions way so many years ago.

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 04:17 PM
sort of..he (or she..hehe) is head of tourism comtee ata.. but does an ok job of prmoting davao
then let's pray for id acaylar to become mayor. what do you think how konsehal would react to this. hahaha. konsehal is still the prme candididate. i guess.





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WawaY[625]
July 31st, 2006, 04:22 PM
my vote would still be for Bonguyan...

speaking of voting..i'm 26 and havent registered yet at COMELEC..hence im not yet a registered voter..ooooooppppssss

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 04:24 PM
sort of..he (or she..hehe) is head of tourism comtee ata.. but does an ok job of prmoting davao
so he is a sheish. so he is a big contrast to duterte's toughie image as mayor to sit in the office






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dinabaw
July 31st, 2006, 04:25 PM
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WawaY[625]
July 31st, 2006, 04:31 PM
contrast would be an understatement....LOLS

but yeah (s)HE could be an ok mayor too..

note the term "ok" rather than great :) but hed make a better tourism secretary than ACE durano..whom i despise to the heavens

scandinavian girl
July 31st, 2006, 04:31 PM
KulaKusgan....dave Thanks for the comments about my city. Many cities in Europe are like this old and new, more or less. It is nice to see history meet the future in harmony. :) Yes, some part of the year my city is green and nice even very hot with high temperatures up to +35C, but long periodes of time it is grey, dark, icy, snowy and froozen. Sweden has a hard climate and you have to almost be a Swede to like it and stand it...:)

Nice evening dave:)

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 04:33 PM
my vote would still be for Bonguyan...

speaking of voting..i'm 26 and havent registered yet at COMELEC..hence im not yet a registered voter..ooooooppppssss
since your voting age? that's a shame gravy. sorry but imo, you're curtailing your right somehow to chose a leader you want. your 1 vote may not count a lot but could make the difference.




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dinabaw
July 31st, 2006, 04:34 PM
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MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 04:38 PM
contrast would be an understatement....LOLS

but yeah (s)HE could be an ok mayor too..

note the term "ok" rather than great :) but hed make a better tourism secretary than ACE durano..whom i despise to the heavens
ok there's gender insensitivity there. got it.






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WawaY[625]
July 31st, 2006, 04:43 PM
ok there's gender insensitivity there. got it.






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that wasnt cos he was a (s)HE..i just dont think he knows much abot politcs still as most of his backgound is on tourism and events...

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 04:43 PM
KulaKusgan....dave Thanks for the comments about my city. Many cities in Europe are like this old and new, more or less. It is nice to see history meet the future in harmony. :) Yes, some part of the year my city is green and nice even very hot with high temperatures up to +35C, but long periodes of time it is grey, dark, icy, snowy and froozen. Sweden has a hard climate and you have to almost be a Swede to like it and stand it...:)

Nice evening dave:)
hi lena. is that you in the avatar? hahaha
looks like big brother's to me. hahaha. joke! :bash: :bash: :bash:


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dinabaw
July 31st, 2006, 04:46 PM
ai salamt wala nay malaysia apocusp nalang :D

Ohhh BTW speaking of voting ,can we "text vote" for position on our public officials, is it feasible? we vote thru texting ! buying voting machine is expensive and contorversial tignan na lang ninyo yung voting machine natin baggong bili controversial na!!! para text ka na lang ng text hehehe !!!!

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 04:48 PM
that wasnt cos he was a (s)HE..i just dont think he knows much abot politcs still as most of his backgound is on tourism and events...
is that the general rule? hahaha joke.






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scandinavian girl
July 31st, 2006, 04:48 PM
so he is a sheish. so he is a big contrast to duterte's toughie image as mayor to sit in the office






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Hi friend , nice to see you! You have a day off, nice to rest to I´ll bet? I wonder are you....are you possibly...are you perhaps...or maybe... are you.....:colgate:....are you apocusp :runaway: The beer in Austraila must be really something MtApo because you, you see me as a bro, me a guy? Really MtApo you had enough beer now??? :jk:

Nice nite mate

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 04:54 PM
Hi friend , nice to see you! You have a day off, nice to rest to I´ll bet? I wonder are you....are you possibly...are you perhaps...or maybe... are you.....:colgate:....are you apocusp :runaway:

Nice nite mate
big no lena trust me. you would have known it from the start.
my name is mt apo. and not mt apocusp. hahaha
so remove me from your list. haha




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scandinavian girl
July 31st, 2006, 05:03 PM
big no lena trust me. you would have known it from the start.
my name is mt apo. and not mt apocusp. hahaha
so remove me from your list. haha




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:jk: MtApo I am no longer solving mysteries of "strange men in black". I hope your day off is nice and you had a real nice day.

:goodbye:

WawaY[625]
July 31st, 2006, 05:04 PM
i know who apocusp is but i wont tell..ehehehe

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 05:06 PM
Hi friend , nice to see you! You have a day off, nice to rest to I´ll bet? I wonder are you....are you possibly...are you perhaps...or maybe... are you.....:colgate:....are you apocusp :runaway: The beer in Austraila must be really something MtApo because you, you see me as a bro, me a guy? Really MtApo you had enough beer now??? :jk:

Nice nite mate
hahaha. do you drink beer too? big brother eye of the reality tv show. is there swedish edition of BB? we have here, oz edition and grand finale had just finished cou[le of hours ago! hahaha


thank you friend and nice nite to you same



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mydavaocity
July 31st, 2006, 05:06 PM
they will never tell the public of the benefits of a federal or parliamentary form of gov't...
nearly 90% of the world's governments are either federal or parliamentary type... pity talaga ang mga pinoy :ohno: ... always kept in the dark! :mad:

I don't think the One Voice Ad with the children eating the cake is about the corruption in/by LGUs and is no way referring to the federal system. Rather, it depicts the scenario when there is a parliament run by the current set of corrupt and self-serving politicians. The ad is trying to point out that the power to elect a president and other such powers will be the sole responsibility of the members of the parliament.

mydavaocity
July 31st, 2006, 05:09 PM
I think ID Acaylar might be a good contender as mayor, but I'm not sure if he is ready and willing to be mayor. Also, I don't think he can easily garner votes in the second and third districts.

dinabaw
July 31st, 2006, 05:14 PM
OI kung si Id and mayor color pink ang color sa City Hall unsaon na fud ng iyang mga adviser ..ummm wa na lang ko say :jk:

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 05:15 PM
I think ID Acaylar might be a good contender as mayor, but I'm not sure if he is ready and willing to be mayor. Also, I don't think he can easily garner votes in the second and third districts.
how bout if he becomes the choice of mayor duterte? will it make any chage in the end?

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 05:16 PM
error




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paulkrps
July 31st, 2006, 05:22 PM
^^ don, i was thinking of installing solar panels for my house. when i checked about the costs, cheapest one would set me back by about $10k cdn. wow, how i wish i could do it. it would save quite a bit in power and gas.

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 05:23 PM
OI kung si Id and mayor color pink ang color sa City Hall unsaon na fud ng iyang mga adviser ..ummm wa na lang ko say :jk:
hmmm... :eek2: :bash:


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MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 05:32 PM
:jk: MtApo I am no longer solving mysteries of "strange men in black". I hope your day off is nice and you had a real nice day.

:goodbye:
hahaha. let's just wait until he comes out

thank you. i had a nice day friend. just a nice day:) and i hope your day is good. really good.





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mydavaocity
July 31st, 2006, 05:35 PM
how bout if he becomes the choice of mayor duterte? will it make any chage in the end?

I think it will definitely earn him a lot of votes. But remember that not all of duterte's choices have won (ie llamas). And I think Duterte will choose somebody more experienced in politics such as councilor Acosta.

mydavaocity
July 31st, 2006, 05:43 PM
is presidential proclamation and PD the same?

I think Presidential Proclamation (or PP) is the term used now. Such as GMA's PP1017 or the declaration of a State of National Emergency.

Meanwhile, PD or Presidential Declaration (I think) was the term used during Marcos' time, such as PD 1081 declaring martial law.

But essentially, the functions/effectivity of the two are the same.

MtApoStandard
July 31st, 2006, 05:56 PM
I think Presidential Proclamation (or PP) is the term used now. Such as GMA's PP1017 or the declaration of a State of National Emergency.

Meanwhile, PD or Presidential Declaration (I think) was the term used during Marcos' time, such as PD 1081 declaring martial law.

But essentially, the functions/effectivity of the two are the same.
ok thanks dvocity






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WawaY[625]
July 31st, 2006, 06:03 PM
I think it will definitely earn him a lot of votes. But remember that not all of duterte's choices have won (ie llamas). And I think Duterte will choose somebody more experienced in politics such as councilor Acosta.


OMFG..for a while i read acosta and thought Angging..nyiiiiiiii

JoeyIncali
July 31st, 2006, 06:29 PM
I think Presidential Proclamation (or PP) is the term used now. Such as GMA's PP1017 or the declaration of a State of National Emergency.

Meanwhile, PD or Presidential Declaration (I think) was the term used during Marcos' time, such as PD 1081 declaring martial law.

But essentially, the functions/effectivity of the two are the same.
Marcos called it Presidential Decree.

mydavaocity
July 31st, 2006, 06:49 PM
OMFG..for a while i read acosta and thought Angging..nyiiiiiiii

Librado yata yun... who's also a contender according to some local pundits.

mydavaocity
July 31st, 2006, 06:51 PM
Marcos called it Presidential Decree.

Oh, yeah... tama pala. Sorry for the mistake.

franz235
July 31st, 2006, 08:17 PM
it's been quite q hile since i post here!!!!
i miss back home!

franz235
July 31st, 2006, 08:19 PM
hope to be back on december for christmas...i hope the greenbelt park is already finished by that time and the traffic lights will be operational!hehehe

Rajah_Soliman
July 31st, 2006, 11:53 PM
Greetings from Dubai! I'm a Davaoeño now based here in Dubai. This is my first time to post a message and still familiarizing myself with Skyscrapercity. I've been following the thread since Thread 10 pa yata. I hope welcome ko dinhi sa forum.

Assalamalaikum how's the palm island project doing? are you involved in that project too?

Part of the agreement was for the City to clear Isla Verde (?) from illegal settlers so that there'll be an unobstructed view of Samal Island, and.f course, to clean the area. But it did not happen. After all voters din ang madi-displace.

I learned from a friend who used to work in City Hall, nga ang Isla Verde gi-turnover na sa mga informal settlers. Meaning, they are already legally occupying the area. Sad.

would you mind mentioning...whose bailiwick is isla verde? (PM mo lang kung di pwedeng sabihin in public )


Magsaysay Park was heavily subsidized by PTA. It wasn't earning but the City already asked for its share of the profit as agreed. Losses pwede pa. So, in 2005, PTA and the City amicably terminated the lease contract. Magsaysay Park is now with the City Government. So, hopefully, after Greenbelt and Chinatown, dapat Magsaysay Park na. It could be integrated either in the Chinatown Development or the Marina Development in Sta. Ana.

thanks for the infos....continue on posting stories like these :)

davaoeagle
August 1st, 2006, 01:30 AM
^^ thank you davaoeagle and lena. hmmm, with all that betting, i guess somebody's gonna pay for my beer this coming davao ssc meet. hahaha.

Ikaw pud ba si MOSIMOS? I remember when Mosimos was gone, Malaysia entered.

davaoeagle
August 1st, 2006, 01:33 AM
^^ hehehe nice face there mtapo, for gravy's body.... we need arms, who's apocusp? :)


for the PTA park name:
1. greenbelt de monteverde
2. the berde park (greenpark hahaha)
3. monteverde park
4. ???

Monte Verde Park would be nice if there was a mountain inside the park..lol.

davaoeagle
August 1st, 2006, 01:45 AM
Greetings from Dubai! I'm a Davaoeño now based here in Dubai. This is my first time to post a message and still familiarizing myself with Skyscrapercity. I've been following the thread since Thread 10 pa yata. I hope welcome ko dinhi sa forum.

I'd like to share some info about Magsaysay Park. I was a member of the technical team that conceptualized for the development of the Park in 1991. There was an agreement between the City Government and the Philippine Tourism Authority (PTA) to lease the site for 25 years and develop it into a premier waterfront park. Part of the agreement was for the City to clear Isla Verde (?) from illegal settlers so that there'll be an unobstructed view of Samal Island, and.f course, to clean the area. But it did not happen. After all voters din ang madi-displace.

The 2-storey building at the southeast corner is the restaurant building with a balcony as area for al fresco dining. Pero Kanaway of the Biraogo's lang ang nisukol sa rent sa space which at that time mahal na. That explains ngano gi-convert na lang ang uban spaces into offices (DOT XI, PTA, DFA and PIA). Kanaway survived for a number of years with the al fresco dining area rarely used kay ang view from the balcony, instead of Samal Island, ang squatters. I learned from a friend who used to work in City Hall, nga ang Isla Verde gi-turnover na sa mga informal settlers. Meaning, they are already legally occupying the area. Sad.

Magsaysay Park was heavily subsidized by PTA. It wasn't earning but the City already asked for its share of the profit as agreed. Losses pwede pa. So, in 2005, PTA and the City amicably terminated the lease contract. Magsaysay Park is now with the City Government. So, hopefully, after Greenbelt and Chinatown, dapat Magsaysay Park na. It could be integrated either in the Chinatown Development or the Marina Development in Sta. Ana.

Welcome to this interesting thread Bagani, You are a perfect addition to the hard core Davaoenos here who hunger for development of any sort for the beloved Davao.

I personally like to be in the know of some covert issues about Davao and I think your background really fits the bill. I don't expect you though to be pouring out everything here as that should be left on your discretion and I would appreciate it if you could shed light on some issues which the common tao of Davao have no wind about.

Again, welcome to the SSC Davao thread. Madayaw!

Rajah_Soliman
August 1st, 2006, 02:05 AM
Ikaw pud ba si MOSIMOS? I remember when Mosimos was gone, Malaysia entered.

Junax is Malaysia......so tapos na yoong "witch-hunt" ni Gravy addict....

btw, i still couldn't find the postings of Malaysia in that said forum :hahaha: ...parang ang gulo ng set up (interface) ng istorya net ....

bon nuit :) zzzzzzzzzzzzz

davaoeagle
August 1st, 2006, 02:16 AM
The 2-storey building at the southeast corner is the restaurant building with a balcony as area for al fresco dining. Pero Kanaway of the Biraogo's lang ang nisukol sa rent sa space which at that time mahal na. That explains ngano gi-convert na lang ang uban spaces into offices (DOT XI, PTA, DFA and PIA). Kanaway survived for a number of years with the al fresco dining area rarely used kay ang view from the balcony, instead of Samal Island, ang squatters. I learned from a friend who used to work in City Hall, nga ang Isla Verde gi-turnover na sa mga informal settlers. Meaning, they are already legally occupying the area. Sad.


I used to bring my clients to Kanaway at MP too and they loved it there for the food and excellent service, (Mr. Biraogo is known for pioneering high level entertainment in Davao) the only BIG fly on the icing though was the foul smell of the breeze of which the culprit was the informal settlers.

There were some hush, hush that the waterfront property would be reclaimed by the local gov't and the settlers relocated somewhere.
From what I've read in the local dailies, the plan was to extend the park from its present site/size up to the Bucana area. They wanted to copy the famous waterfront/beachside park of other countries similar to the Rodeo Walk in LA or something to that effect.

However, further talks and negotiations failed and the project fizzled. The only reason they could muster to say and I've heard was that PTA and LGU of Davao didn't agree on some conditionsin the contract. Both sides lost steam and the project gathered dust in their cupboards.

Good thing though is that the Sta. Ana pier waterfront dev't plan caught the attention of some investors and looks like they're keen at pouring in investment into it. Of late, these so called interested parties went on to do ocular inspection of the place and the proponents got their nod of approval. It's just a matter of time that we see this plan come into fruition

junax
August 1st, 2006, 02:28 AM
^^ good morning davao city...

Ikaw pud ba si MOSIMOS? I remember when Mosimos was gone, Malaysia entered.

nope bai am not mosimos, malaysia there and junax here, no more no less.

some updates:
napadaan ako sa may toril-matina area, traffic lights are U/C pa. in agdao area, some lights are already installed but i have to confirm this pa. honda showroom in front of nccc mall is on its 3rd floor already. philhealth XI is the new locator of karpentrade building, just beside the U/C honda showroom, ecoland building is still being used by the admin. heard that the 6th level of g-mall (main atrium area) is already being used as gaming area.

davaoeagle
August 1st, 2006, 02:31 AM
my vote would still be for Bonguyan...

speaking of voting..i'm 26 and havent registered yet at COMELEC..hence im not yet a registered voter..ooooooppppssss

OK man pud unta si Bonguyan pero..la lang!

Si Id Acaylar, sus pagka smart. Hurot akong believe sauna katong work pa ko sa NGO based in Manila. We had a project in Davao and Id was hired as one of the resource persons while I did the documentation in his class. For the whole time, (at least 2 weeks) the participants (Phil Coconut Auth personnel coming from all parts of the country) was all agog with his wit and eloquence with the subject. Naluya sila tanan pati kami mga facilitators, documentators and project managers pag human sa contact ni Id. Kita gyud nako unsa siya ka maayo sa iyang field. The more I respected him when he was handpicked by the good mayor to head the local tourism body kay alive kaayo ang Davao karon. Kung sa Mayoral position murag di sa ko sa iya pero oks kung naa siya sa city council.

davaoeagle
August 1st, 2006, 02:36 AM
Tuesday, August 01, 2006
P300M circulates yearly in city due to fish port

ABOUT P300 million circulates annually in the city due to the operation of the Davao Fishport in Daliao, Toril.

Fish port manager Mario Malinao said Davao is the only transhipment fish port in the country.

Being a transhipment port, he said, the Toril fish port can accommodate ships that either unload their catch here or merely pass by and load provisions of crew in the city.

Malinao said of the eight fish ports in the Philippines, only the Davao fish port is allowed to do such.

For this, he said, the city also earns substantial income from the foreign fishing vessels that dock in the Toril fish port.

Since the start of their operation in 1995, Malinao took pride of the fact that the Davao fish port is earning.

Last year, they posted a gross revenue of P30 million, next to the Zamboanga fish port with P60 million income and General Santos City with an P80 million annual revenue. (BOT)

davaoeagle
August 1st, 2006, 02:40 AM
Lawmakers urged to donate for dev't of Forest Park

DAVAO City Councilor Susabel C. Reta is urging congressmen and other interested individuals to become donors and contribute in the development of the PTA grounds into an Urban Forest Park.

Reta said the city embarked on the project not only to beautify the city, but also to provide a place where city residents can enjoy their free time with nature even if they are in the heart of the city.

"This is for everybody, so I am urging interested individuals to donate. Congressmen can donate for the setting up of a fountain," Reta said Monday during the launching of the PTA Park Development Project.

If completed, City Administrator Wendel E. Avisado said the park will be divided into several recreation areas -- the tropical rainforests, shady plaza, open plaza, great lawn or green theater, promenade, water garden, greenhouse museum and gallery, fantasy themed children's park and dancing fountain.

Facilities to be constructed in the park include a visitors' center, restrooms, perimeter fence with distinct designs, lampposts and a cooling station, Avisado said.

He said the project is estimated to cost 70 million.

Based on the project description, a detailed survey of the PTA grounds and initial tree planting activities has already been undertaken.

Regional Development Council chair Jesus V. Ayala, who donated 70 African Tulip trees that have already been planted in the area, suggested that it would be better to have music playing at the park.

"I hope there will be music -- pastoral, soft music -- so that the people can relax," Ayala said in a separate interview.

Ayala said a tree costs him P2,000 to P3,000. (BRQ)

davaoeagle
August 1st, 2006, 02:48 AM
^^ good morning davao city...



nope bai am not mosimos, malaysia there and junax here, no more no less.

some updates:
napadaan ako sa may toril-matina area, traffic lights are U/C pa. in agdao area, some lights are already installed but i have to confirm this pa. honda showroom in front of nccc mall is on its 3rd floor already. philhealth XI is the new locator of karpentrade building, just beside the U/C honda showroom, ecoland building is still being used by the admin. heard that the 6th level of g-mall (main atrium area) is already being used as gaming area.

Thanks bai Junax. I can't ask for more. :cheers:

davaoeagle
August 1st, 2006, 02:49 AM
Tuesday, August 01, 2006
Mindanao halal products to be launched in Saudi

A FIVE-day Mindanao Trade and Investment Mission to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) is currently being planned by a number of private and public agencies to sustain business ties with the Arab country.

Moreover, the mission is aimed at strengthening further the interest of the Arabian businessmen who visited Mindanao, particularly Davao, during the first quarter of last year.

The Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) in Southern Mindanao, Mindanao Economic Development Council (Medco), Mindanao Business Council (MinBC), local government of the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (Armm), and the local chambers are jointly undertaking the said mission.

The organizers are keen on conducting meetings with the various chamber and business organizations in KSA, launching Mindanao halal products, as well as market sensing and business-matching sessions, among others.

DTI regional director for Southern Mindanao Merly M. Cruz said the mission will not only continue the interest of Arabian businessmen in Mindanao but it will also open up a window of opportunity for the local products to be promoted and have its niche in the KSA market.

Interested participants have until August 8 to enlist themselves. For inquiries and reservation, please contact Engineer Edwin Banquerigo or Ms. Lani Catalan at (082) 224-0511.

davaoeagle
August 1st, 2006, 02:50 AM
Tuesday, August 01, 2006
Jags-CT readies shipment of products to Indonesia

GLAN, Sarangani -- Traders in Jags-CT, an economic cooperation triad of coastal towns in Sarangani and Davao del Sur provinces, were set to ship out goods to Tahuna-Bitung, Indonesia in October.

To be viable, a voyage to Indonesia requires a hundred metric tons of cargo. This would in return bring the same amount of load back to Jags-CT, officials said.

Jags-CT is Jose Abad Santos-Glan-Sarangani Cooperation Triangle, a cluster of towns formed in 2003 in support to the Brunei-Indonesia-Malaysia-the Philippines East Asean Growth Area (Bimp-Eaga).

Jose Abad Santos and Sarangani towns belong to Davao del Sur, while Glan is Sarangani province's oldest town and port.

Jags-CT aims to increase trade, tourism and investments within the cooperation triangle by enhancing cross-border linkages with the northern provinces of Indonesia.

"We are opening up opportunities for the private sector," Sarangani Governor Miguel Dominguez said.

Among other commodities, Sarangani businessmen would trade paints and electronic products with their Indonesian counterparts, according to Nenita Barroso, trade and industry provincial director.

The NHU Customs Brokerage and Shipping Agency would render the required shipping services between JAGS-CT and Indonesia utilizing its vessel, M/L Aljamar.

On December 12, a memorandum-of-understanding was forged by Jags-CT, NHU and the CIQS (customs, immigration and quarantine services) agencies for the shipping linkages with Indonesia.

Local traders and officials of Jags-CT gathered in Glan Thursday to work out the maiden voyage to Tahuna-Bitung.

Glan Mayor Enrique Yap Jr. reported that during his May visit to Indonesia, he held preliminary arrangements with the Indonesian business sector and local authorities for the Jags-CT and Tahuna-Bitung shipping services.

The shipping services will look on many things to sustain trading relations between the two countries.

Among them is frequency of travel, the chamber of commerce's participation on trade, volume and type of cargo to be shipped, booking, cross border business matching sessions, aggressive marketing and CIQS.

Transportation and trade thru strengthening of CIQS mechanisms were among the "priority areas" identified during the 2nd Bimp-Eaga Leaders' Summit on December 11, 2005 in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

The 1st Bimp-Eaga Transport Ministers Meeting on June 5 in Brunei Darussalam also discussed the "feasibility of selected domestication of shipping services in Bimp-Eaga."

The existing intra-Eaga sea linkages between the Philippines and Malaysia are Zamboanga-Sandakan and Zamboanga-Tawi-tawi-Sandakan.

The establishment of Makassar-Bitung-General Santos Shipping Services and Glan-Tahuna-Bitung Shipping Services was agreed during the Transport Ministers Meeting.

dinabaw
August 1st, 2006, 05:26 AM
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Bagani
August 1st, 2006, 07:08 AM
ok thanks bai. wanna ask agin if you have any idea why was samal davao suspension bridge project shelved. was it because of negative environmental impact? there was report last year about resurrecting the project study by ?another group. there was a rumor too the project was blocked by big resort owners of samal? are there big infrastructure components in your study. i mean something with engineering or architectural impact on davao that can become a landmark something..

Thanks, bai.

I don't have any update on the bridge. But I have some views that I commonly shared with some tourism thinktanks in the govt.

First, the bridge will surely promote enormous economic activities to the island as well as Davao City. It will provide "weather-proof" transport link for tourists, goods and services. Utility lines such as power, communications and water won't use submarine infra anymore. It will make the Florendo's dream of transforming the island into an economic zone a reality. Kuyaw, di ba? But that's one thing.

Second, if you talk about tourism, specifically island tourism or coastal tourism, the bridge will likewise impact on it. You don't like another Boracay, or uncontrolled devt to happen here. Boracay gani nga wala'y bridge connected to Caticlan ug wala'y major service or financial center, or an international gateway nga tapad (like Samal and Davao), wala man gani na-control sa govt ang development. What more ang Samal? Maybe Mactan is an exception. What I'm saying is, the govt should set its priority. Unsa man dyud gusto nila? Island Garden City or Subic-type Special Economic Zone. Maybe they could co-exist. Ready ba ang govt to put development contols in place before any devt should take place? I hope dili na mag-conflict sa DOT tourism development guidelines nga gi-adopt sa former Municipality of Kaputian. For the info of everybody, Ekran Berhad only developed a tenth of the 2,500 hectare tourist zone in Kaputian. Dako pa kaayo ug potential ang Samal unya maguba lang sa wrong or conflicting priorities sa govt. As a sensible alternative, I suggest the people of Samal should look into the establishment of a Tourism Enterprise Zone which the PEZA and DOT jointly crafted. It's a novel tourism concept - duty-free importation of capital equipment for hotels and resorts. Investors could bring in jetskis, yachts, fastcrafts, sea planes, etc.tax-free direct from Europe.

Pasensya ka na, bai. I've been aching for a long time to share these ideas. I'll save some for last.

Bagani
August 1st, 2006, 08:30 AM
OK man pud unta si Bonguyan pero..la lang!

Si Id Acaylar, sus pagka smart. Hurot akong believe sauna katong work pa ko sa NGO based in Manila. We had a project in Davao and Id was hired as one of the resource persons while I did the documentation in his class. For the whole time, (at least 2 weeks) the participants (Phil Coconut Auth personnel coming from all parts of the country) was all agog with his wit and eloquence with the subject. Naluya sila tanan pati kami mga facilitators, documentators and project managers pag human sa contact ni Id. Kita gyud nako unsa siya ka maayo sa iyang field. The more I respected him when he was handpicked by the good mayor to head the local tourism body kay alive kaayo ang Davao karon. Kung sa Mayoral position murag di sa ko sa iya pero oks kung naa siya sa city council.


You are right. Dili pa sya pwede as mayor. He's the head of the City Tourism Council and he's doing a good job. But I don't think he is successful in developing the full potential of tourism in the City. Tourism is not just events, and definitely not just beautification. Tourism is not a GRO job, meeting VIPs and putting leis. I think he has to deepen his understanding about tourism. If the City wants tourism to become one of the major economic engines, then Mr. or Ms. Id should go beyond what he is doing now. It's high time that the tourism council should be transformed into a full-fledged Department and not just an office attached to the Office of the Mayor.

I've been part of a number of teams that formulated tourism master plans for provinces in the Visayas and Mindanao. And always, the Plan recommends for the creation of a superbody in the LGU - the Tourism Department. One function: The Dept, in addition to the already established destinations, should identify other potential sites and tourism assets, and come up with a plan (infra, financial, management, etc.). If you browse websites on Davao City attractions, what you see 10 years ago, would likely be the same today. Well, if you consider, nightspots and restos as attractions, surely may nadagdag nga.

But judging to what I personally witnessed 4 years ago in Davao, I don't think the Council has enough competent people to do the job. Example: Tourism Sec Gordon challenged the audience in a tourism forum - "Why not develop agri-tourism? You have a lot of banana plantations here." Somebody from the Tourism Council stood up and said, "Meron ba tayo n'yan dito sa Dabaw?" Stupid! How can you promote Davao if the ones doing the promotion doesn't even know Davao by heart? I know the Council can't do it by themselves. But by transforming it into a Dept, they are empowered to call on other departments to assist them without question. Example: The Tourism Department discovered a picturesque 30-meter waterfalls with a 100-square meter natural pond ideal for swimming somewhere in Marilog District, they could direct the City Engineer to conduct survey, check on the terrain, distance from the nearest barangay, etc., the City Planning or City Architect to come up with a plan that will identify best areas for picnic or camping, CENRO to conduct EIA, or coordinate with Davao Light to provide power, and so on and so forth. The Tourism Department should be the "Boss." Walang pera? Then you can sell your ideas and plans to investors for BOT. Daghan kaayo options. You just have to be creative. And this is just one of the functions.

Again, sorry. I could go on forever.

Bagani
August 1st, 2006, 09:12 AM
Assalamalaikum how's the palm island project doing? are you involved in that project too?

would you mind mentioning...whose bailiwick is isla verde? (PM mo lang kung di pwedeng sabihin in public )

thanks for the infos....continue on posting stories like these :)

Alaykumussalam! Keif al hal?

No, I'm not involved with The Palms project. The man-made islands are now visible from the beach area. The huge dredging boats that pump sand into the islands are likewise attractions. My company is one the 3 biggest real estate development companies in Dubai owned by the Sheikh. Our projects are mostly overseas. We are going into southeast Asia but not the Philippines. Palitan daw muna natin si GMA bago sila pumasok.

Bailiwick? Let's say that the Mayor's bailiwick is the whole City.

Sayang. Isla Verde could be a perfect expansion area of Magsaysay Park and eventually link to the development in Sta. Ana. And Yes, Philippine Tourism Authority was supposed to expand it but somehow napunta ang priority sa "mas makabuluhang" proyekto ng Pangulo.

Maasallama, My friend!

KulasKusgan
August 1st, 2006, 09:35 AM
Sayang. Isla Verde could be a perfect expansion area of Magsaysay Park and eventually link to the development in Sta. Ana. And Yes, Philippine Tourism Authority was supposed to expand it but somehow napunta ang priority sa "mas makabuluhang" proyekto ng Pangulo.


Yan talaga ang matagal ko ng pangarap... to have Davao a neat coastal & riverbank areas. Marina complex from Sta Ana Wharf to Bucana. and River Park from Bucana to Diversion Road.

Also in my wishlist is a monument or landmark that would truly represent Davao. If Sydney = Opera House, NYC = Statue of Liberty, Paris = Eiffel Tower, Singapore = Merlion. I think bagay sa Davao isang malaking monumento ng Bagobo holding a durian like this:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/sleepie_uno/random%20pics/IMAG0091.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/sleepie_uno/random%20pics/IMAG0090.jpg

Rajah_Soliman
August 1st, 2006, 09:46 AM
Alaykumussalam! Keif al hal?

No, I'm not involved with The Palms project. The man-made islands are now visible from the beach area. The huge dredging boats that pump sand into the islands are likewise attractions. My company is one the 3 biggest real estate development companies in Dubai owned by the Sheikh. Our projects are mostly overseas. We are going into southeast Asia but not the Philippines. Palitan daw muna natin si GMA bago sila pumasok.


I would be glad if you can PM me your company's name so that I can include you in my databank (don't worry I won't mention your name...I'm handling fund investments) :)

Bailiwick? Let's say that the Mayor's bailiwick is the whole City. that explains it......i should say isla verda was part of the political compromise...hmmmmm


Sayang. Isla Verde could be a perfect expansion area of Magsaysay Park and eventually link to the development in Sta. Ana. And Yes, Philippine Tourism Authority was supposed to expand it but somehow napunta ang priority sa "mas makabuluhang" proyekto ng Pangulo.

ano-anu yoong mga "makabuluhang" projekto ng pangulo?

btw, re: samal davao bridge-- do you think they will be able to realize the project within 5 years? (i need to know something about this since I'm "speculating" .... you're in the real estate, perhaps you know what I mean :hilarious )


salam

Bagani
August 1st, 2006, 10:29 AM
I would be glad if you can PM me your company's name so that I can include you in my databank (don't worry I won't mention your name...I'm handling fund investments) :)

that explains it......i should say isla verda was part of the political compromise...hmmmmm

ano-anu yoong mga "makabuluhang" projekto ng pangulo?

btw, re: samal davao bridge-- do you think they will be able to realize the project within 5 years? (i need to know something about this since I'm "speculating" .... you're in the real estate, perhaps you know what I mean :hilarious )

salam

Loud and clear. I know exactly what you mean. But I'm in the planning and design component of the real estate business.

With my BIG mouth, I could, unintentionally, give away my identity. Hulat lang, Habibi. We'll get into the details later. Our company is so huge. Our annual budget is US$20B. It's = PhP1T. Pero gamay ang sweldo.Corporate confidentiality issues, bai. Check the internet. Basi'g makita nimo company namo.

About the bridge, honestly, wala ko'y idea sa new plans nila, bai. But it's common knowledge kung asa nila ibutang - the narrowest portion of the Strait - less than 800 meters lang yata - somewhere between the boundary of Bajada and Panacan. It would require a cloverleaf interchange on both sides. Based on international standards, it would eat up a kilometer radius of space including approaches and turns. Make sure that you don't "speculate" in these areas. You'll surely be victimized by the police power of the government - expropriation.

Bagani
August 1st, 2006, 10:52 AM
Yan talaga ang matagal ko ng pangarap... to have Davao a neat coastal & riverbank areas. Marina complex from Sta Ana Wharf to Bucana. and River Park from Bucana to Diversion Road.

Yes! Big dream for Davao.

Go north from Sta. Ana all the way to Insular. But intelligent planning is very important. And Davao has the brains to do that. Imagine a promenade bordered by a wide green space, coconut or nipa grove, mangrove, and the Davao Gulf on the east, and a coastal road, wide green space, and a strip of hotels, retail and shopping, entertainment, etc. on the west. Beautiful! But is it Doable? Yes!

First question? How do you remove all the eyesores along Davao City's coastline without receiving subpoena from the Human Rights Commission or the communists? Time, planning, political will, economic instruments and creativity. Malabo ba sagot ko? Next posting na lang.

SiliconGulf
August 1st, 2006, 10:55 AM
Also in my wishlist is a monument or landmark that would truly represent Davao. If Sydney = Opera House, NYC = Statue of Liberty, Paris = Eiffel Tower, Singapore = Merlion. I think bagay sa Davao isang malaking monumento ng Bagobo holding a durian like this:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/sleepie_uno/random%20pics/IMAG0091.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/sleepie_uno/random%20pics/IMAG0090.jpg

What about something modern? Ok ang cultural representation, but it might make foreigners outside think more that we're still composed of tribes and fruit growers. Opera House = arts/culture, Statue of Liberty = freedom, Eiffel Tower = architectural mastery. What can be a symbol for us? The soaring Philippine Eagle perhaps?

SiliconGulf
August 1st, 2006, 11:02 AM
Example: The Tourism Department discovered a picturesque 30-meter waterfalls with a 100-square meter natural pond ideal for swimming somewhere in Marilog District, they could direct the City Engineer to conduct survey, check on the terrain, distance from the nearest barangay, etc., the City Planning or City Architect to come up with a plan that will identify best areas for picnic or camping, CENRO to conduct EIA, or coordinate with Davao Light to provide power, and so on and so forth. The Tourism Department should be the "Boss." Walang pera? Then you can sell your ideas and plans to investors for BOT. Daghan kaayo options. You just have to be creative. And this is just one of the functions.

Again, sorry. I could go on forever.

Coming from Manila, one of the first things I did here was to check out the scuba diving industry. It's in a sad state. Sayang. Local divers believe that Davao Gulf has enough diving attractions to make it a favorite like Anilao, Batangas. It's still considered a "secret" up to now. Up to now, we only have a handful of PADI certified dive shops. The lack of foreigner divers coming (due to Mindanao's travel advisory warning) prevents the local diving industry to flourish. Sayang talaga. Ang ganda pa naman ng Davao Gulf for diving. It's something to be proud of, and should be promoted alongside Eden, Malagos and Crocodile Farm.

Rajah_Soliman
August 1st, 2006, 11:15 AM
Corporate confidentiality issues, bai. Check the internet. Basi'g makita nimo company namo.



i'm aware of that :) it could be that you are already in my databank if that's the amount of project portfolio you're handling...still just give me a clue...kahit na acronym lang (pm mo lang)....

Bagani
August 1st, 2006, 12:11 PM
Coming from Manila, one of the first things I did here was to check out the scuba diving industry. It's in a sad state. Sayang. Local divers believe that Davao Gulf has enough diving attractions to make it a favorite like Anilao, Batangas. It's still considered a "secret" up to now. Up to now, we only have a handful of PADI certified dive shops. The lack of foreigner divers coming (due to Mindanao's travel advisory warning) prevents the local diving industry to flourish. Sayang talaga. Ang ganda pa naman ng Davao Gulf for diving. It's something to be proud of, and should be promoted alongside Eden, Malagos and Crocodile Farm.

3 years ago, i assisted a Davao hyperbaric doctor to link with govt officials in Manila for funding for the purchase and the setting up of a decompression chamber and hyperbaric medicine center. Marami din kasing use in medicine ang chamber. Not just for diving sickness and accidents. So, double purpose sana. I think there are only 5 in the Philippines - one in Cebu inside Camp Lapu-Lapu, one in Subic, Batangas City, V.Luna in Quezon City and in one of the military camps in Manila. Wala sa Mindanao. Sa Davao Medical Center sana ilalagay. The doctor was just asking for a reconditioned chamber, and not a new one kasi mahal nga. Importante, calibrated sya and certified by Lloyds of London. In short, walang govt official ang naniwala sa importance ng chamber. It could have been a boost to the diving industry in Davao because divers will feel safer kasi alam nila malapit lang ang tatakbuhan kung may diving accident, and they don't have to wait for several hours before they could board a plane kasi pwede na sila magpa-decompress right after the dive. Additional income yon for the City who will eventually operate it. Again, what can I say? Sayang na pud.

bustero
August 1st, 2006, 12:30 PM
hmmm malapit na naman matapos tong thread, time to make it STICKY

Oy mods konting serbisyo, make this Thread sticky as it should be!

Bagani
August 1st, 2006, 12:34 PM
i'm aware of that :) it could be that you are already in my databank if that's the amount of project portfolio you're handling...still just give me a clue...kahit na acronym lang (pm mo lang)....

DH (Delta-Hotel). That's the acronym of our mother company. Our company is not just into real estate. We're also into media, education, health, energy, property and hotel management, and technology. Give away na yan, bai.

Bagani
August 1st, 2006, 12:36 PM
hmmm malapit na naman matapos tong thread, time to make it STICKY

Oy mods konting serbisyo, make this Thread sticky as it should be!

Apologies for my ignorance, Bustero. Rookie kasi ako dito. What is "Sticky"?

KulasKusgan
August 1st, 2006, 02:06 PM
@ Bagani: A sticky thread is a thread that always shows at the top of the threads listed in a forum. See the main Phil forum, theres a word "sticky" attached on sticky threads. hehe.

What about something modern? Ok ang cultural representation, but it might make foreigners outside think more that we're still composed of tribes and fruit growers. Opera House = arts/culture, Statue of Liberty = freedom, Eiffel Tower = architectural mastery. What can be a symbol for us? The soaring Philippine Eagle perhaps?

or both. One modern - yong tipong Calatrava & one cultural - yong tipong Kublai Millan. The soaring Philippine Eagle maybe stands for economic devt. What about "Monkey-Eating" Eagle (like the one at the entrance of Phil Eage Center)? maybe for peace and order. Eagle = DDS, monkey = criminals. But still I prefer a Bagobo, like you said, we are composed of tribes & fruit growers.

The modern one will be placed at the center of Marina complex or maybe at the Green Park. The cultural one will be installed at the mouth of Davao River, the site of Datu Bago settlement or the Port of Datu Bago.

Sinjin P.
August 1st, 2006, 02:08 PM
^^ Wow @sleepwalker, you got your name changed. Kanus-a pa na nahimong KulasKusgan? Wa ko kabantay :D

KulasKusgan
August 1st, 2006, 02:14 PM
^^July 30, 2006 nagrequest ko... og sa dihang pagkaugma July 31 (kagahapon)... granted dayon.

Skyblue_Navyblue
August 1st, 2006, 02:31 PM
oi! excited na ako sa new projects sa davao!!

whhhheeeeee!!!!!!!!

KulasKusgan
August 1st, 2006, 02:44 PM
Mindanao History: Confronting the Legacies of Colonial Rule and the Continuing Search for Peace
By Macario D. Tiu

First, a clarification regarding positionality. In viewing Philippine history in general, and Mindanao history in particular, I take, what I believe, is a Filipino position. It works this way. When there is a conflict
between foreign colonial powers and Filipinos (or Philippine tribes), I take the side of the Filipinos or Philippine tribes. No ifs, no buts. That is my positionality.

History is a complex process, and I find that many situations call for a more careful positioning. For example, what if it is a matter of two Philippine tribes or clans fighting each other, and one of the tribes asks the assistance of a foreign power to fight the other tribe?

We are all familiar with this tactic. That was how colonial powers operated, and continue to operate: divide, then rule. All colonialists are masters of the art. They exploit local conflicts, dynastic wars, and ethnic rivalries to advance their colonial projects. They don’t care who is right or wrong. All they want is to weaken, crush, and subjugate their targets of colonization. And they will use any method to achieve their ends: lie, cheat, bribe, and attack.

A colonial project is a brutal and vicious project of landgrabbing and plunder. The colonialists find all sorts of justification for colonialism: true religion, real democracy, war on piracy or terror, and whatnot. But
nobody should be fooled: the ultimate objective of colonialism is ruthless oppression and exploitation of subjugated peoples.

Now let us complicate the matter. What if the colonialists happen to side with the oppressed tribe against an oppressor tribe? That is how standard Davao historiography depicts the conquest of Davao. Most local history books celebrate the conquest of Davao by Jose Oyanguren who wrested it from Datu
Bago. Datu Bago is described as a pirate and an oppressor getting tribute from the other tribes. And the Samals, the books say, went over to the Spaniards to get back at the Moros at Bankerohan.

That is an example of seeing history through Spanish eyes. I take a different view. To me, Datu Bago is the hero. Davao was the last territory in the Philippines to be conquered by Spain, and Datu Bago valiantly
defended Davao Gulf against Spanish colonial expansion. Oyanguren was an adventurer, a landgrabber, a colonial state-sponsored pirate. He is not my hero; he is the hero of the Spaniards. He did what was good for Spain, expand its colonial territory.

As for the Samals, we have here a case of divide and rule, bribery, and lying.To seize Davao Gulf, the Spaniards divided the Kalagan Moros and the Samals. I do not know if the Spaniards used other coercive methods, but to get the Samals to their side, the Spaniards promised that they would liberate the Samals from the Moro tribute, and that the Spaniards would not impose the tribute on them. This is a simple case of bribery to secure collaboration. But once the Spaniards won, they reneged on their promise to the Samals and tried to collect tribute from them. Lying is a tool of colonialism.

In some cases, the Spaniards did keep their promise to reward certain groups of people for their collaboration, creating a privileged class among the local tribes. But for the majority, it means vassalage of the worst kind. The Spaniards imposed the tribute on the conquered people, forced them
to work and to fight for them.

This is not to obscure the fact that there were real conflicts between and among the tribes, and that the Kalagan Moros, with their Magindanaw allies, dominated the other Davao tribes. This internal system of domination is something we also need to recognize. The intertribal conflict was a weakness exploited by the Spaniards. The tribes failed to realize that they needed to unite against a common enemy.

And so the Spaniards gleefully used one tribe to fight another tribe. In 1609 Pampango troops were sent to garrison Tandag in old Caraga. In 1648 Christian Lutaws (Samals) were used to suppress the Sumuroy revolt of Samar. The Zamboanga volunteers were highly praised by the Spaniards for helping
conquer “Jolo, Cotabato, Parang-parang, and Lanao in Mindanao,” and the suppression of rebellions in Luzon, Negros, Cebu, Cotabato, Tucuran, and Tumbao.”

All this exacerbated mutual hostility that characterized the relationship between and among the tribes which later narrowed down to hostility between the Christianized north and the Moro south. As the Spaniards relentlessly expanded their territory by using Christianized native troops, the Moros
retaliated with attacks on Spanish-controlled settlements. The Christians have genuine grievances against the Moros, and the Moros have genuine grievances against the Christians, with the Spaniards emerging victorious.

In Mindanao, the first areas to be colonized by Spain was in the north, such as Dapitan, Butuan, and Surigao. They tried to make Cotabato an encomienda in 1596, but this failed, with the head of the Spanish expedition, Esteban Rodriguez de Figueroa, killed by the Magindanaws under Silongan. We know that the Spaniards failed to defeat the Moros throughout much of Spanish rule in the Philippines, although they succeeded in reducing Moro territory over time. They did this by using the attack-negotiate-then attack strategy. The Spaniards were definite about their objective: colonize. When Moro power was weak, they would extort territorial concessions from them.

It should be stressed that the Lumads also fought the Spaniards but were generally overwhelmed, and those who refused subjugation simply vanished into the interior.

From Surigao the Spaniards continued to advance south by garrisoning east coast towns in the old Caraga District; while in 1635, they fortified Zamboanga which they used as their base in attacking Jolo and Magindanaw. To control the Moros, the Spaniards thought of diluting the indigenous Mindanao
population with settlers from the conquered tribes who would act as their frontline troops. This is an ancient colonial strategy used by many colonial powers: transfer people to a hostile territory, make the different tribes fight one another, and they would then be easy to control by the colonizing power.

This is what I call civilian warfare. Make civilians fight civilians. In a letter addressed to the Jesuit Superior and to the Governor General of the Philippines, Valeriano Weyler, Jesuit priest Pablo Pastells suggested that the policy to follow with regard to the Moros was to isolate them completely in the interior by means of (Catholic) missions and military posts, and establish villages “formed, either with people living in the locality, or by fomenting the immigration of people from Bohol or from Ilocos.” Married soldiers and deportees were also encouraged to settle in these territories.

From the 17th century up to the end of Spanish rule, 60,000 persons from Luzon and the Visayas were deported to Mindanao or the Marianas. These deportees had either criminal or political cases. Many of them were prisoners. There were also soldiers, called disciplinarios, who committed some offenses like desertion. In most cases, these deportees, prisoners, and disciplinarios were in the frontlines in suppressing the uprisings of the Moros and Lumads.

The Revolution of 1898 also affected Mindanao, and many Christianized natives, deportees, and disciplinarios also took part in the fight against Spain. This is a significant development because these persons coerced to defend Spanish rule in Mindanao finally turned their guns on the hated
Spaniards. During this glorious period of our history, the Muslims, the Lumads, and the Christians were finally fighting a common enemy.

But we know what happened to our revolution. The Americans came, saw, and conquered. This is another part of our history that needs retelling. They were very successful colonizers. They lied, cheated, bribed, and attacked. And they succeeded in making us their friends, in making us think and talk like them. In short, we became the perfect colonial subjects.

To be sure, our forefathers put up a good fight, but American superior firepower was just too much. To make us believe their good intentions, they cannonaded and burnt our towns, massacred entire villages, tortured and watercured guerrillas, and conducted germ warfare to frustrate our aspirations for freedom and independence.

When the Americans saw Mindanao, they were simply amazed at the fertility of the soil. They called Cotabato the “land of promise,” and Davao the “garden of the gods.” Some 200 American adventurers descended on Davao, grabbed the land of the natives, and established abaca and coconut plantations. They also forced the Lumads to work in the plantations, so that by 1905, unrest was sweeping Davao Gulf.

On 6 June 1906 Davao District Governor Edward C. Bolton was assassinated in Lacaron, Malita, Davao del Sur by Mangulayon, the deputy leader of the Tagakaolo Tribal Ward. The Americans retaliated with a terrible huwes de kutsilyo in the Malita area not mentioned in our history books. All that the Americans met they killed, whether old or young, women or children, Kaolo, Blaan, Manobo, cat or dog, according to the Lumads of Davao del Sur. The Americans would only stop the massacres when Mangulayon was reported killed in August 1906.

According to the Kalagans of Hagonoy in Davao del Sur and Lupon in Davao Oriental, the Americans also conducted mass poisoning in Davao Gulf affecting mostly the Kalagans. I have reason to believe it was germ warfare. Its objective was to decimate the native population, and thus facilitate American ownership of Davao land.

What the Spaniards failed to do in fifty years in Davao, the Americans succeeded in only ten years. They established their hegemony and exploited the land by expanding the abaca and coconut plantations. As there was an acute shortage of labor in Davao, the Americans began to import labor, including Japanese labor.

Abaca made Davao what it is today, particularly during the time when the Japanese dominated the industry. Settlers from various parts of the country flowed into Davao in search of work and land. In the 1930s, some 10,000 settlers were arriving in Davao every year, and soon the demographic profile
of Davao changed in favor of the settlers, principally the Cebuanos.

The same was happening in other parts of Mindanao during the American colonial period. Settlers established villages deep in Moro and Lumad territory. Soon, the original inhabitants of Mindanao became the minorities in their own land. What Pastells had suggested to isolate the Moros had finally become a reality. And that situation is the root cause of the conflict in Mindanao today.
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Mindanao became a battleground because of its rich land and abundant resources. Colonial powers coveted the island; and since the Spaniards and the Americans could not fully garrison it, they used civilian warfare to control the land and the resources. So today even if the colonialists are no longer around, Mindanao remains a battleground. But the problem has assumed new dimensions, making it a highly complicated problem.

If this were a matter between foreigner and Mindanawnon, then my positionality on the issue would be simple. But the problem is not that simple anymore. There are now three local players: the Moros, the Lumads, and the Christian settlers. We don’t have foreign troops anymore, we have troops of the armed forces of the Philippine Government. But let us not forget the foreign element. They are represented by big agro-corporations and mining firms who exploit our land and resources.

We know that there is so much unhappiness in the relationships among the various ethnokinship groups in Mindanao. The original inhabitants have many grievances. They are the least developed in the country and the least educated. They do not enjoy the benefits of progress that the other groups enjoy. And as they look around them, they are now constricted to a very limited territory. Listen to this lament of the Mandaya:

“All our land is gone/ O gone is our pristine world… Our dignity is trampled upon/ O we have become worthless/ O they have become powerful/ These aliens in our land.”

Many Lumads can only lament, although some have waged pangayaws to seek justice. But their rebellions have been short-lived, and their minoritization and marginalization continue.

However, in the case of the Moros, their rebellion has persisted, and we continue to experience war until today. We have tens of thousands of evacuees in Mindanao. According to the Department of Social Welfare and Development (DSWD), as of January 20034, there were 69,000 families who have been displaced, representing 355,000 persons in 68 municipalities, 3 cities and 12 provinces. You can just imagine the social costs and human misery of unpeace. Some people have become so desperate they have resorted to terroristic means to get even, making our communities unsafe.

In the meantime, among the settlers, not all is well among them. They also have their own complaints that feed insurgency in the countryside.

As peace advocates, how do we deal with the issues raised by the Moros, Lumads as well as the settlers? How do make Mindanao a zone of peace?

Obviously it is not an easy matter. To make Mindanao a zone of peace, we must confront the tensions and conflicts that divide us. It is easy for us to call each other brothers, and fellow Filipinos, but unless we are able to make our relationship just and equitable, the rhetoric is empty. We must therefore open our minds and our hearts in a dialogue that seeks to achieve a just peace, a just peace that respects all the interests of the stakeholders in the development and progress of Mindanao.

First, an observation. The present situation has entrenched the settlers, and they now consider themselves Mindanawnons. As Rudy Rodil puts it, the three of us now share the land. Is this a matter also accepted by the Lumads and Moros?

I am aware of the privileged position of the settlers in Mindanao. My question to the majority is: how far are we going to give back some of the privileges we have gained in Mindanao? What is the hati-hating kapatid as applied to the Mindanao situation so that we can live together in peace, all
of us enjoying the bounty of the land?

As we are a product of a vicious colonial project, we must recognize past injustices and correct them where possible. We should have the courage to rearrange and modify power relations within Mindanao so that all of us are empowered. Then we can bring the past to a close, and we can proceed to build a better future where all of us will enjoy genuine peace and development.

dinabaw
August 1st, 2006, 03:17 PM
City, environment agency ink pact to protect watersheds
By Barbara Carla R. Quiero

THE Davao City government and the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) have signed a co-management agreement that will bring about partnership in protecting, rehabilitating, and conserving the city's watersheds.

City Mayor Rodrigo R. Duterte and DENR regional executive director for Southern Mindanao Ricardo L. Calderon signed the agreement at the Conference Room of the City Hall Monday afternoon.

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The agreement provides that the two parties shall jointly undertake the conduct of ground delineation, survey and boundary demarcation of co-management watershed areas -- the 2,723-hectare Tamugan-Panigan in Baguio District and the 497-hectare Tagurano-Eden in Toril Distict.

After signing the agreement, the DENR and City Government have agreed to draft a Watershed and Management and Development Plan within six months from the signing of the agreement.

City Administrator Wendel E. Avisado said that with the agreement, the city has the responsibility to provide financial, technical, and operational manpower support within approved budget to operationalize and manage the watershed areas covered by the agreement.

"Through the agreement, the city will be clothed with authority to conserve, protect and preserve the said areas," Avisado said Monday.

The agreement also states that it is the responsibility of the city to jointly prepare with the DENR the development plan "for review and recommendation to the City Council, through the City Development Council, for approval."

The DENR is also mandated to provide technical and manpower assistance in the implementation of the agreement, help the city in preparing the development plan and deputize selected personnel of the city to enforce environment laws and regulations in the co-managed areas.

Calderon said watersheds, being critical areas, should be protected to preserve and maintain the quality and quantity of the water.

"But critical areas do not necessarily mean ugly but this mean that these areas need protection as they sustain irrigation projects," Calderon said in a separate interview.

According to him, having well-preserved and protected watersheds is one of the reasons why investments are pouring in the city.

Rajah_Soliman
August 1st, 2006, 03:24 PM
Apologies for my ignorance, Bustero. Rookie kasi ako dito. What is "Sticky"?


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dinabaw
August 1st, 2006, 03:48 PM
Originally Posted by Bagani
I'll be in Manila in December. I'll try to get in touch with the Chinese's pinoy counterpart. If the STP materializes, if I'm not mistaken, it would be the 5th in the country - after Manila, Baguio, Boracay (newest), and Zamboanga (vintage - built by the Americans). It should be a major component of the Davao Gulf conservation effort. By the way, I made a short technical paper on Davao Gulf Coastal Zone Development while in Australia 12 years ago.

Manila has STP? how big ? how about Bagiuo ? I saw a documentary that a secondary city in China became a huge success because they start cleaning their environment from sewage to pollution , c'mon guys the future 21st century cities is about cleaning our sorrounding and investment will surely follow. gusto diyud nako ma tangal ng mga squatters in Isla verde and boulevard area i am not against them but it really hinders the development of the city ,political will lang dyud kailangan dinha .I just hope STP would materialize in Davao City or it is included in the on- going sewage project of the city . Can you submit or talk to councilor Leo Avila your Davao Gulf Coastal Zone Development study he is also a member /officer of Save Davao Gulf .

mydavaocity
August 1st, 2006, 03:56 PM
^^July 30, 2006 nagrequest ko... og sa dihang pagkaugma July 31 (kagahapon)... granted dayon.

Paano po mag-request?