Hamas on Saturday released a rare videotape of a man it said is the bombmaker pursued by Israeli security forces for more than a decade.

The man, identifying himself as fugitive Mohammed Deif, described Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip as a victory for armed resistance, rejected calls for his group to disarm, and vowed to continue attacks on Israel until the Jewish state is erased from the map.

"You are leaving Gaza today in shame," he said. "Today you are leaving hell. But we promise you that tomorrow all Palestine will be hell for you, God willing."

Opponents of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon have criticized the Gaza pullout as a surrender to Palestinian violence, and many fear that Hamas will use Gaza as a base for continued attacks after Israel completes the pullout in the coming weeks.

The tape was released in the middle of the night on Shabbat, and officials could not immediately be reached for reaction.

Deif, widely believed to be at the top of Israel's most-wanted list, is responsible for the deaths of dozens in suicide bombings.

He has been living underground since 1992 and has escaped at least two alleged assassination attempts, among them a missile strike in 2002 in which he lost an eye.

In the video, Deif sat in a chair, wearing a dark shirt and waving his hand as he spoke in a deep voice, but the high quality of the video - stamped with the logo of the Hamas military wing - and the similarity of the voice to his previous recordings would appear to indicate that the tape is authentic.

Hamas members delivered the tape to The Associated Press office in Gaza City, and said recently that a video of Deif would soon be released. Hamas also posted a transcript of his comments on its website.

In the speech, Deif praised the hundreds of terrorists who have died in attacks against Israel, and said the violence had driven Israel out of the Gaza Strip.

"Without this jihad and this steadfastness, we did not achieve the liberation of the Gaza Strip," he said.

In messages to Palestinians living in the West Bank and Arabs inside Israel, he vowed to continue the group's violent efforts until it expels Israel from the West Bank and ultimately eliminates the state.

"We will not hesitate, and we will not rest until we liberate our holy land fully," he said.

Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas has called on Hamas and other terror organizations to lay down their weapons once the withdrawal is complete, though he so far has rejected Israeli demands to confront the terrorists with force. Abbas wants to resume peace talks with Israel.

Deif rejected calls to disarm, but said any differences between Palestinian factions should be resolved peacefully.

"We warn against touching these weapons, and want to keep them as an effective element to liberate the rest of our homeland," he said. "We want to use dialogue to solve any differences in order to protect our Palestinian blood and our national achievement."

Hamas and Abbas' Fatah movement are in a bitter struggle over who should receive credit from the Palestinian public for the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.

The two parties are set to compete in Palestinian legislative elections in January. Hamas is expected to make a strong showing, particularly in its Gaza stronghold.

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The man, identifying himself as fugitive Mohammed Deif, described Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip as a victory for armed resistance, rejected calls for his group to disarm, and vowed to continue attacks on Israel until the Jewish state is erased from the map.

"You are leaving Gaza today in shame," he said. "Today you are leaving hell. But we promise you that tomorrow all Palestine will be hell for you, God willing."



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It shows that, Palestinians people dont want to have peace until Jewish State is erased from the map... Palestinian People = selfish, bad, and stirring problems in the world...!!! :bash:

"You are leaving gaza in shame"

said the 15-year FUGITIVE.. :lol:

shame there are no caves in gaza, he can go hide in tora bora with his budies.. he forgets we are not america, here when we really want to catch a terrorist we do it very quickly - no wonder he has resorted to tapes, what a hero :lol:

He too shall pass.

He is a nothing. His murderous episodes have earned him what .... being a fugitive? happiness? More like self destruction and decaying spirit.

He was nothing when he started and he remians nothing. What he says is less important than whisps of smoke blown away on the breeze. The actions of beasts in the wilderness have as much meaning as his.

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Palestinian People = selfish, bad, and stirring :bash:

Or maybe the paletinian people are angry because the Israelis:

*been bombing their country for the last fifty years
*killed 1000s of palestinians
*made the whole world think their terrorists
*destroyed the palestinian economy
*made many palestinians live in poverty
*walk in and out of palestine whenever they like
*get to choose what land is for the palestinians and what land is for the Israelis
*chose our leader (which is a jewish pretendiong to be palestinian)

And sure, if the palestinian did this to the jews, we all know the jews wont react and will live in peace.

AN44588,I think you should pay attention to the thing you say before you say them,especially if they are not correct:

*been bombing their country for the last fifty years
what country?they live in our country if you didnt notice. and you see that no other arabian country wants them is their land and you dont see jewish people go into jorden or egypt and take 35% of their land and claim it as theirs.

*killed 1000s of palestinians
do you know how many israelis died from terror attacks?over 600!!and most of the dead palestinians tryed to kill israelis and died while trying.

*made the whole world think their terrorists
well how would you call a palestinian going into a bus full of israelis and blow himself in there just to kill the people inside?a freedom fighter?you wont see israelis go into a palestinian market and trys to shoot everyone in it.

*destroyed the palestinian economy
oh we didnt destroy their economy,the terror and the "battle" between the terror organizations destroyd it.

*made many palestinians live in poverty
again, the terror organizations and the corrupted goverment took all the money that other countrys gave them to rebuild their citys and to support their people so the fault is theirs

*walk in and out of palestine whenever they like
wrong again. as you may be aware of the israeli army evacuated all the jewish settlement beyond the Green Line so there are no more jewish people moving in and out of the gaza strip and beside who would want to go in there anyway?

*get to choose what land is for the palestinians and what land is for the Israelis.
well its our country not the palestinians and therefore i belive we have the right to choose where they would live. and the gaza strip is in one of the best spot in israel!!

*chose our leader (which is a jewish pretendiong to be palestinian)
im not even gonna comment on that,only a fool will claim such a stupid thing

And generaly, i don't think Palestinians are bad or selfish or whatever, i think that they are just influenced by the wrong people, the terror leaders that claim that israel is the enemy and futilely accuse her in the poverty and all the problems in their community.

Or maybe the paletinian people are angry because the Israelis:

*been bombing their country for the last fifty years
*killed 1000s of palestinians
*made the whole world think their terrorists
*destroyed the palestinian economy
*made many palestinians live in poverty
*walk in and out of palestine whenever they like
*get to choose what land is for the palestinians and what land is for the Israelis
*chose our leader (which is a jewish pretendiong to be palestinian)

And sure, if the palestinian did this to the jews, we all know the jews wont react and will live in peace.
Hey liar, are you back again. Are you here to make up more quotes from people? Are you here to spew whatever wretches up from your depths some more? You have no place here. You have the gall to make up quotes from forumers and then you have the additional brazenness to come back again. Go back to your mud hole and play. You are not needed here.

So it is clear to people what a liar you are, here is the thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showt...38&page=9&pp=20.

In the thread, post #156 you posted a fictitious quote. If you have not changed or edited it yet, here is what you made up:

"AN44588
Registered User
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 41 Quote:
Originally Posted by everythingisone
na na na na i am a terrorist na na na na na"

Nobody needs you here, whoever you are and whatever your nam de plume is today.

Maybe your right my jewish friend. All I ask for is the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Although what I am hearing people want the Jews to stay their. One minute everybody supports Sharon because he supports the war against palestinians and now everybody against him because he is trying to stop it.

Maybe what I am hearing was wrong. I am here to learn.

Maybe your right my jewish friend. All I ask for is the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Although what I am hearing people want the Jews to stay their. One minute everybody supports Sharon because he supports the war against palestinians and now everybody against him because he is trying to stop it.

Maybe what I am hearing was wrong. I am here to learn.
That is not all what you are asking for. It has never been all what you have asked for. If so, you never would have attacked the Jews in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, and unendlessly since then.

You will have no intelligent and logical response to this. There is none.

And you are not here to learn. You are here to spin the truth, to manipulate the truth, and to lie. Just go away.

gilad500 - welcome to Israeli forum :)

Welcome to Skyscrapercity forum gilad500.
My advice to you is to ignore people like everythingsone as he is racist and clearly hate all arabs. Although I was trying to have a mature conservation, he does not seem to want me around. Maybe because I am an Arab or a Muslim.
I am not a racist like everythingsones and have many great Jewish friends myself.

That is not all what you are asking for. It has never been all what you have asked for. If so, you never would have attacked the Jews in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, and unendlessly since then.

You will have no intelligent and logical response to this. There is none.

And you are not here to learn. You are here to spin the truth, to manipulate the truth, and to lie. Just go away.

You are accusing him in these attacks?i dont belive he was even born yet.
I agree that terror and killing are a horrible and revolting means but you should understand that it is not his fault but the terror organizations fault.
It shows that both sides must overcome many obstacles and prejudices in order to live in peace with each other,and hopefully this will happen soon.
i don't think AN44588 support terror anymore then we do and as he said,he is here to learn.

^^ Or maybe its because you make up lies and use them as arguments. No one here is racist and excuse me for not believing you about your "great jewish friends". Anyway, everythingisone never said anything racist.

You are accusing him in these attacks?i dont belive he was even born yet.
I agree that terror and killing are a horrible and revolting means but you should understand that it is not his fault but the terror organizations fault.
It shows that both sides must overcome many obstacles and prejudices in order to live in peace with each other,and hopefully this will happen soon.
i don't think AN44588 support terror anymore then we do and as he said,he is here to learn.
You are still 'young' and you didnt see the horrors of these discussions. you are wrong if you think that anas annani does not support terror. just stick around and see for yourself. He isn't 'learning'..

well to be honest I didn't really took time to check out the old post on this forum and I really don't know that "anas annani" that you mentioned here a few tims before so forgive me of been gullible....

I am a man of peace and only speak with great wisdom. I am against any terrorist organisation such as hamas, al qaeda and nazis. I know as I have many jewish friends myself, that all Jews would like a seperate Jewish state, which they have gained called Israel. For me, I just want a palestinian state where all palestinians can leave in peace.

I've had 'Humas' at arabic hotels, and its yummy. :D

I am a man of peace and only speak with great wisdom. I am against any terrorist organisation such as hamas, al qaeda and nazis. I know as I have many jewish friends myself, that all Jews would like a seperate Jewish state, which they have gained called Israel. For me, I just want a palestinian state where all palestinians can leave in peace.
Finally some words of reason on your part. I think we can all agree on that.

PS. “.. and only speak with great wisdom” LOL! That’s a strange thing to say about yourself. :lol:

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It shows that, Palestinians people dont want to have peace until Jewish State is erased from the map... Palestinian People = selfish, bad, and stirring problems in the world...!!! :bash:

what??
are u talking about jewish people i think you made a mistake there.. right?
i think you were gonna say israel people= selfish, bad, and stirring problems in the world. but thats ok people do mistakes.


AN44588,I think you should pay attention to the thing you say before you say them,especially if they are not correct:

*been bombing their country for the last fifty years
what country?they live in our country if you didnt notice. and you see that no other arabian country wants them is their land and you dont see jewish people go into jorden or egypt and take 35% of their land and claim it as theirs."

what country? their land and their country..
how old is your country?
57 years?
ooh look!! how many years!... since you guys occupied Palestine
also its the youngest country in the world!!

how old is Palestine?
4000 years.

budy wake up stop lying at each other and say the truth for once for god sake. i wanna be simple with you because i know all jewish are dumb! how come all the countries around israel are arab except israel?. i mean by that is israel was Palestine(arabic country) and u guys went there and took from them.

Also, how come Palestinians dont have guns or tanks or anything for fight and they took your land, even if you guys have guns and tanks! and almost all kinds of fighter planes. here is my question. how did Palestinians took your land(as u said) if u have all that power and they don't have anything?

how come the oldest building in palestine refer to Palestinians and for islam and there is nothing refer to jewish like the dome of the rock?

and there is lots and lots of facts says that Palestine is for Palestinians and no body else...

u guys will start to hate me but i dont care. also i know your going to respond with some lies. but hey tell you what i am not going to believe what are saying becasue i really know the truth and all the books say the truth and i am reading old books like the bible. and the bible says that Palestine was Palestine and israel was Palestine.

^ uh huh... That's full of bullshit... It is so sad that u believe in like these lies.......

^^if i don't believe my eyes, the maps and the holy books, who should i believe? or maybe you want me to believe you, and throw the bible away.

and really grow up and start some effective work for Palestine.

I am a changed man. I was a hardline right wingy to a softy left wingy because I learnt one thing, we are all human. Its what Islam is all about, make peace with your neighbours whether they are muslim or non-muslim.

P.S I still think the americans are trying to rule the world

Welcome to Skyscrapercityforum, the truth.

what country? their land and their country..
how old is your country?
57 years?
ooh look!! how many years!... since you guys occupied Palestine
also its the youngest country in the world!!

how old is Palestine?
4000 years.

budy wake up stop lying at each other and say the truth for once for god sake. i wanna be simple with you because i know all jewish are dumb! how come all the countries around israel are arab except israel?. i mean by that is israel was Palestine(arabic country) and u guys went there and took from them.

Also, how come Palestinians dont have guns or tanks or anything for fight and they took your land, even if you guys have guns and tanks! and almost all kinds of fighter planes. here is my question. how did Palestinians took your land(as u said) if u have all that power and they don't have anything?

how come the oldest building in palestine refer to Palestinians and for islam and there is nothing refer to jewish like the dome of the rock?

and there is lots and lots of facts says that Palestine is for Palestinians and no body else...

u guys will start to hate me but i dont care. also i know your going to respond with some lies. but hey tell you what i am not going to believe what are saying becasue i really know the truth and all the books say the truth and i am reading old books like the bible. and the bible says that Palestine was Palestine and israel was Palestine.

Well!we have yet another skeptic!!well I will have no choice but to explain you why the things you say,are not only not true but also very stupid....

First of all no body hates you...every one have the right to say his opinion, and now for the things you said:

Well you see...the jewish state was established much before there was any such thing as Muslim or Christian, and the people who were living in the country were called "Plishtim", and they have no connection to today Palestinians, and the jewish fought and died for this country only to be exile by the Babylonian king, Nevocadether.the Babylonians destroyed the "first Temple" that was the most sanctified place for the jewish.
and that by the way is written in the bible.

and from that time untill the greeks time the country was in the hands of the Babylonian empire, that was defeted by Alexander The Great and than became a part of the Macedonian empire.
After the death of Alexander, the empire was splitted and the Talemai family(later on the Egyptian empire) rule it for some more years untill the time of the Roman empire.
and just for clear things out, there were no Muslim or Christian yet,only jews.
whan the roman empire came, came also Empror Hordus that builded the jews that were living in the country a "Second Temple" that was located exactly were the dome of the rock is located this days. so you see now,that israeli archeologists want to dig in the surroundings of the dome of the rock,and the Palestinians wont let them to, because they know that if they will find anything there that will prove that Jerusalem was belong to the jews all along and they couldent claim anything as theirs.

and just for you to know, when the country was established on 1948 there were no Palestinians in the country, only after the War of Independence the Palestinians, refugees of the neerby defeted countris settled on Gaza, and the Israelis as a gesture of good will let them live there!only to find out that they are worst than the Arabic soliders!!!!!
and that is the most of this.....next time you read the bible make sure this is a REAL copy of it....

LOL. Wherever you dig in Israel you will find remains from the Jewish civilization. Not only that the Arabs came only in the 7th century AD, thousands of years after Jewish presence was established, they also didn’t build much! They neglected this land which flourished until then under all kind of rules and turned it to what it was in the 19th century when Jews started arriving in masses to find desert.

“The truth”! show me evidence that there was arab presence in Israel before the 7th century!

Show me any historic document which mentions the Palestinians as a nation!

“All Jews are dumb” huh? That’s both a racist and a very stupid thing to say. So stupid we are that we shaped the western culture.

Whoever reads the bible or any holy book knows that all the monotheists religions say Palestine is the promised land of the Jews so I find it hard to understand how a religious man says otherwise. I wonder what do you consider to be a holy book?

The reason that the Muslim world opposes Israel is because in the Islam point of view, which is a religion oriented on expansion, any piece of land that was Muslim controlled must say Muslim controlled and therefore you hear voices of extremists that want a Jihad against Spain because they re-conquered Iberia from the Muslims in the late 15th century.

i said several times NOT OPEN POLITIC THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!