hey guys, what is the reason for the never ending, repeating, annoying structure of 80% of the threads opened here?
The only themes are: which city is the biggest, tallest, richest, most populatet etc
And then all this rankings and combats and weird stuff like this.
We are talking about city´s, buildings, places to life and for identity, culture, flair, purpose.
What is the matter of rankings? We should talk about several interesting features of cities, architecture, urban developments and try to learn more about towns we don´t know yet. And perhaps to put things next to instead of under or ahead of other things.
Instead of this, everybody is promoting his favourite cities like a fan at a football match :bash:
so nothing to learn...
just much to beat...
so long
sad

Your probably going to be bashed by some for your comments, so I'll just say that I have always agreed with your line of thought. I came to this website to learn new things and be inspired, not to compete with every city in the world.

On the other hand, competition (which involves ranking) can be healthy, if it does'nt result in blind stubborness which does tend to happen as the thread gets longer.

If we have nothing to bitch about then there's no point in a forum. :(

i think 80% of the people visiting this sub-section are nationalistic, over-opinionated pricks, 15% are plainly stupid and the rest are people with great minds/ideas (mostly geographers over 20 years old)

if open thsoe topic make people annoy,this forum should be closed to avoid people annoying and nationalist :cheers:

comapre which city has more .less of something,thats can improve people debating and source collecting skills,and learn more knowledge of city,although those topic are simple,but its easily to make every people understand,
its not the university/specified college forum ,we are not in university lecture room,we dont need much topic that is so professionalize :)

Its fun and interesting to debate issues and express opinions, basicly it what seperates us from the Animals. Thats the point of a forum, otherwise you can urban development news from Google News.

hey guys, what is the reason for the never ending, repeating, annoying structure of 80% of the threads opened here?
The only themes are: which city is the biggest, tallest, richest, most populatet etc
And then all this rankings and combats and weird stuff like this.
We are talking about city´s, buildings, places to life and for identity, culture, flair, purpose.
What is the matter of rankings? We should talk about several interesting features of cities, architecture, urban developments and try to learn more about towns we don´t know yet. And perhaps to put things next to instead of under or ahead of other things.
Instead of this, everybody is promoting his favourite cities like a fan at a football match :bash:
so nothing to learn...
just much to beat...
so long
sad

I couldn't agree more... but if that's what floats their boats...

The nature of this forum begets comparison, that in turn, begets debate, which is the cornerstone of this forum. Comparison is implicitly promoted on a branch of this forum called: "City vs City." And if you'll excuse me, I'll shamelessly promote my favorite city below.

hey guys, what is the reason for the never ending, repeating, annoying structure of 80% of the threads opened here?
The only themes are: which city is the biggest, tallest, richest, most populatet etc
And then all this rankings and combats and weird stuff like this.
We are talking about city´s, buildings, places to life and for identity, culture, flair, purpose.
What is the matter of rankings? We should talk about several interesting features of cities, architecture, urban developments and try to learn more about towns we don´t know yet. And perhaps to put things next to instead of under or ahead of other things.
Instead of this, everybody is promoting his favourite cities like a fan at a football match
so nothing to learn...
just much to beat...
so long
sad


But this is just one subforum (Citytalk and City vs City), if you want to learn about cities there is 95% of the forum left (project-threads, photo-threads, construction-updates,infrastructure,portals....). I wouldn't judge Skyscrapercity based on this one section. :)

Well all the comparispon threads should be moved to city vs city (the most boring subforum ever) so the Citytalk can become what it should be.

Iwano:
hey guys, what is the reason for the never ending, repeating, annoying structure of 80% of the threads opened here?
The only themes are: which city is the biggest, tallest, richest, most populatet etc
And then all this rankings and combats and weird stuff like this.
We are talking about city´s, buildings, places to life and for identity, culture, flair, purpose.
What is the matter of rankings? We should talk about several interesting features of cities, architecture, urban developments and try to learn more about towns we don´t know yet. And perhaps to put things next to instead of under or ahead of other things.
Instead of this, everybody is promoting his favourite cities like a fan at a football match
so nothing to learn...
just much to beat...
so long
sad

I totally agree with you.
Somewhere I read that the "first law" of journalism is: if you don't know what to say, just make a ranking. People will always like rankings, eventhough they are useless (sometimes).

Anymodal:
i think 80% of the people visiting this sub-section are nationalistic, over-opinionated pricks, 15% are plainly stupid and the rest are people with great minds/ideas (mostly geographers over 20 years old)

Thanks! I am a geographer and 23 years old :tyty: It would be interesting to know who else studies (or has studied) geography.

Another question I already asked in another thread which I can't find anymore:
How can I make a quote so that the name of the guy I am quoting appears? Everybody can do it, except myself.

Another question I already asked in another thread which I can't find anymore:
How can I make a quote so that the name of the guy I am quoting appears? Everybody can do it, except myself.


instead of using the "Reply"button you click on the "Quote" button of the post you want to quote (every post has a quote-button) :)


or you could enter the name in the quote yourself [QUOTE=insertname] instead of [QUOTE]

cool, thanks!

I am a geographer and 23 years old

So am I !
I am a geographer and I am 23 years old. ;)

I think debate, statistical comparisons, and number-crunching has to be tempered by a vision of city life that goes beyond the numbers. To debate issues is fine so long as it is self-evident that there are usually no clear-cut answers/rankings to these things. Most of all, debate must be enlightened by a good knowledge and appreciation of other cities. A city is not cold statistics; it is a living and unique organism. And it is the people, not the buildings, that ultimately inform us of its inner life and richness.

So am I !
I am a geographer and I am 23 years old. ;)

:eek2:

I get tired of the same damn threads all the time.

"What are the top 4 cities in the world?"

So am I !
I am a geographer and I am 23 years old. ;)

Don't think you count as having a great mind GM;)

I get tired of the same damn threads all the time.

"What are the top 4 cities in the world?"

Thing is that question is obvioas, so no need for so many threads:yes:

Don't think you count as having a great mind GM;)

C'est gentil ces politesses. Qu'est-ce que je t'ai fait exactement ?

^^Nothing GM, I'm just messing:happy:

hey guys, what is the reason for the never ending, repeating, annoying structure of 80% of the threads opened here?
The only themes are: which city is the biggest, tallest, richest, most populatet etc
And then all this rankings and combats and weird stuff like this.
We are talking about city´s, buildings, places to life and for identity, culture, flair, purpose.
What is the matter of rankings? We should talk about several interesting features of cities, architecture, urban developments and try to learn more about towns we don´t know yet. And perhaps to put things next to instead of under or ahead of other things.
Instead of this, everybody is promoting his favourite cities like a fan at a football match :bash:
so nothing to learn...
just much to beat...
so long
sad
I completely agree.
And as a newly appointed mod to this section, I'm definately looking to change this forum into something better...

I think debate, statistical comparisons, and number-crunching has to be tempered by a vision of city life that goes beyond the numbers. To debate issues is fine so long as it is self-evident that there are usually no clear-cut answers/rankings to these things. Most of all, debate must be enlightened by a good knowledge and appreciation of other cities. A city is not cold statistics; it is a living and unique organism. And it is the people, not the buildings, that ultimately inform us of its inner life and richness. :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

There is no comparison:

The only one:

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Do not accept expensive imitations white of mobile telephony like this:


http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/reuters_ids/20050829/06/290661038.jpg

Thanks Panamaniac.

I don't know about poetry, but I do love cities.

I think comparisons are good because we can appreciate cities more. However, there is a distinct line between comparing and trolling.

There is no comparison:

The only one:


Ein Rudi Völler, es gibt nur ein Rudi Völler, ein Rudi Völler!

I dont think anyone has an issue with using cities to compare off eachother as it in facts does liven up debate. But I think everyone here can agree that more often than not, instead of having intelligent debate, it becomes a ramble. No logic is used, far off statistics are pulled up or even conjured up, ideas are reduces to guesses, and eventually the actual intention of the thread is lost.

Comparing is good to either inspire new ideas or work on finding the best in each city so others can learn off them.
Comparing is horrible when it's used to simply brag.

Anyways, who wants to compare NYC to LA now? lol

I don't even go the City vs City section, b/c I think it's just childish to be comparing cities all the time.

Ein Rudi Völler, es gibt nur ein Rudi Völler, ein Rudi Völler!

Seems to be a nostalgic friend of german football... :cheers:

People like to compare stuff. Cities are no exception.

People like to compare stuff. Cities are no exception.
...usually just US Americans give this answer...don´t know why, perhaps it´s just your national sport? ;-)

I don't even go the City vs City section, b/c I think it's just childish to be comparing cities all the time.

haha, it is.. and the cities repeat like every week

human's ego explains all this.. i believe so.

because we like comparing and its fun yaaaay yipee jump for joy!!! and the ultimate goal is to make skyscrapercity.com the biggest forum on the Internet and have like a billion people on it and then the City vs City threads will go crazy and everyone will turn on each other and start wars and go nuts and it will be the end of mankind as we know it!!! we are all doomed!!!DOOOMED i tell you!! So the apocolypse will be brought about as a result of this website...yaay. Ok so now that my pointless "not so sane" rant is done ill come back to reality..now all i have to say is....is...reality sucks im going back into my dream world. dont go crazy, dont go crazy, dont go crazy, dont go crazy, dont go crazy, dont go crazy, dont go crazy........

ok im actually sane but seriously i think the VS threads are very informing and interesting, and i always like hearing other people's opinions even if they are as dumb sometimes as my rant up above, and if we are all sane and hopefully mature then i dont see why any VS threads should be a problem.

I really hate city vs city now, Think about it, London is loosing against Chicago, once won against BA by 1 and generally looses due to ignorant people branding all Brits as trolls and jealousy, put it this way, it's fucked up.

I really hate city vs city now, Think about it, London is loosing against Chicago, once won against BA by 1 and generally looses due to ignorant people branding all Brits as trolls and jealousy, put it this way, it's fucked up.
I wouldn't take these poll results too seriously. This is just a forum for skyscraper geeks, after all.

In the real world, the vast majority of people accept that London is one of the Big Four major world cities (along with NY/Tokyo/Paris).