View Full Version : SYDNEY: Zenith - 30st/108m/res (Kings Cross)


spazpecker
February 13th, 2003, 11:16 PM
The Millenium, high on the hill at the top of William St in Kings Cross, is another of Sydney's 'uglies' about to be transformed !
It is one of the most high profile towers in Sydney, given its elavation above sea level an ofcourse the Coke sign at its base.
There is a nice render of it in today's AFR along with some good info on the project.
I will post it later today if no-one has in the meantime.....

finn
February 14th, 2003, 12:11 AM
Yeah, I found out about this last week when I was staying at The Elan in Kings Cross - but didn't have any time to get photos before I came down here to Melbourne!

The display suite was being constructed last weekend, and was open on the Sunday - they have a pretty big model and lots of renderings and info in the centre - the tower will be vastly improved by the renovation/conversion/refurbishment!

If anybody is in the area to check it out, the display centre is in the base of the tower itself, pretty much on the corner of Victoria St and Kings Cross Rd and below the big Coke sign.

The building will have the most amazing two storey penthouse, with a huge spa/pool on the roof, and amazing views!

Kings Cross
February 14th, 2003, 01:22 AM
Cool! Thanks for the info guys! I heard about it happening but wasn't 100% sure that it would go ahead. I'll check it out since its in my neighbourhood! :)

SinCity
February 14th, 2003, 02:05 AM
Excellent, another prominent retro fugly to disappear. I still cannot wait for that wretched UTS on Broadway to disappear, this has now got to be the last to go!

The Millenium or former "Hyatt Kingsgate" looked like some ghastly Hong Kong highrise slum. Good riddance! :D

finn
February 14th, 2003, 02:10 AM
I forgot to mention as well, the name of the converted tower will be - ZENITH! :)

Avatar
February 14th, 2003, 04:17 AM
I like it the way it is... what does the refurbishment look like?

spazpecker
February 14th, 2003, 04:29 AM
I have taken a digi pic of the render but it just isn't turning out- not worthy of posting it. Can someone else do it with a half fucking descent camera !!!! :)

Kiat Sipattapone (?) is doing the refurb for the owner, Kingsgate International, at a cost of $98m.
It becomes the 12th hotel in the east to be coverted over to full or part residential.
Zenith will see 97 of the hotels 240 rooms converted to apartments, the rest will stay as hotel.
Believe it or not there was much debate over whether the facade should be refurbed and thank christ they decided to reskin it - at a cost of $4m - beleiving it would boost sales! Fuck oath it would ! :)
Views from the top are sensational with the penthouse expected to fetch $9m+.
All rooms will have floor to ceinling windows allowing for amazing 360 degree views from the hexagonal tower, built in 1970.
Level 11 will have a bar, water features, gym, sauna and lounges.

FYI the 32 floor tower is 95m tall to roof and 135m above sea level.
One bedders will go for $465 -735k.
Two bedders from $945k- $1.9m.


The renaissance of William St has started ! The tunnel is underway and now the buildings along it are being done up, bring it on !

Fabian
February 14th, 2003, 05:23 AM
Good to see this tower been done up. It really needs a refurbishment.

But I'm sad to see a further loss of hotel rooms, another sign of Kings Cross losing it's significance as a tourist attraction.

Muse
February 14th, 2003, 10:26 AM
Being inspired by spazpecker's initial post on the Millenium's $98 million of its 240-room hotel suites conversion to at minium 97-unit refurb., I went to my local Broadway Shopping Centre Newsagent to buy the Fin. Rev..

If all goes well with the conversion, it should bring more life to an apparently floundring area.

In the same article, it mentions that the Coke Neon @ it's base is heritage listed, which is a start.

The Coke neon (apparently the largest neon in the Southern Hemisphere) @ the base of the pre-converted Mill. Hotel:

___________________http://www.hotels-sydney.com/millennium/millennium_hotel.jpg

Noonos
February 14th, 2003, 11:44 AM
finally! this tower is soooo ugly.

CULWULLA
February 14th, 2003, 12:31 PM
The Hyatt kingsgate was Australia's tallest hotel when completed in 1970! At 95m/32st, it surpassed Sydney's Wynyard Travelodge (now Corus) and was the tallest for 3 or so years when in 1974 handed over the reigns to Sydney Hilton Hotel which is also undergoing a refurb!
Ill be happy with what ever they do to the external treatment of the tower.,
:D

Muse
February 14th, 2003, 12:54 PM
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We will all be happy with both its internal and external refurb., because in its present form, it is now a renduntant tower!!

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True Noonos, the Millennium Hotel in its present form is a real fugly.

Nightime image of the Heritage listed Coke neon:

_________http://www.eframes.com/sizedimage.asp?uid=539898098&image=23518.jpg&path=c%2Fchris%5Fglory%5Fhotmail%5Fcom&maxedge=260

More images of the fugly Millennium Hotel, with the heritage listed Coke neon @ its base:

__________http://www.boxercox.com/photoalbums/SYDNEY/thecross.jpg

Muse
February 15th, 2003, 12:40 AM
In this weekend's Sydney Morning Herald in the Domain Apartment liftout, it gives the flash website for Zenith @ http://www.zenithliving.com/.

The site gives side elevations, an artist impression of Zenith, views from certain floors, interiors plus more.

Good viewing!

Muse
February 15th, 2003, 03:28 PM
Called into the sales office for Zenith @ the base of the Millennium Hotel today located on site in the Kingsgate Shopping Centre.

i was informed that the hotel will close the first week of April. After this, the conversion will start in the first half of April or at the very latest, the beginning of May.

If all goes smoothly, the anticipated completion for the conversion will be June 2004.

Already out of the 97 apartments, 25 of them have been pre-comitted, as of today.

Fabian
February 15th, 2003, 10:45 PM
I had a look at the website. It looks completely different to what it is now. Looks much more impressive too. I also like the roof and it's spire.

Avatar
February 16th, 2003, 05:20 AM
I have looked at the site and I was fortunate to goto the Millenium Hotel on Saturday and venture inside the rooms and foyer, etc.

It needs a makover but I believe what we have now looks better aesthetically on the outside than what they intend to do with it. I hate the new styles they are perpetuating nowdays... lots of clear glass... have they never heard of tinting... I alo hate round shaped buildings... they should leave it with a geometric square faced appearance IMO

Muse
February 16th, 2003, 11:56 PM
Was that you in Zenith's sales office i saw hassling the sales person Mr "Glass" Avatar ;) ?

I thought would have liked the multitudes of glass of the conversion over the rendundant, brown, 70s fugly of the Millenium.

Just IMHO, the rounded glass-chockered Zenith will be smoother than the sharp-edged hexagonal hotel :( . I hope that Zenith will be as transluscent i.e. almost clear, as it appears in the rendering.

SinCity
February 17th, 2003, 12:52 AM
MuseumB, thanks for the link to the flash site on Zenith.

I think that the new look will be great and it definately has been a long time overdue.

The old Hyatt Kingsgate/Millenium is far to ugly for such a highly prominent location ...... it just had to go in its current form.

I am glad the "Coke" sign stays, its just a pity we don't have more of this similar illumination around the place. It would definately be a great location to create a "Times Square" atmosphere!

RMM
March 7th, 2003, 10:17 AM
Fabian: "Good to see this tower been done up. It really needs a refurbishment.

But I'm sad to see a further loss of hotel rooms, another sign of Kings Cross losing it's significance as a tourist attraction".



Fabian not so much that the Cross is losing it's significance: more so the build up to the Olympics saw a major supply of hotel rooms come on line in the city.

Once the Olympics were over, there was an oversupply. Hotel occupancy dropped, hotel room rates decreased, hence a very competitive market.

Premium five star hotels in the CBD were offering very attractive rates, that drew alot of business into the CBD.

Hotels in the cross could not compete and lost business. Returns to institutional investors dropped off, hence the train of thought of getting into the residential market.

Regards
RMM

Bulwara
March 7th, 2003, 12:36 PM
I've gotta say, I'm gonna like this one when it's done. The lighter, softer finish is much need for this area. The roof alteration is good, as well as added spire.

Although reading this line in from the website can be a little misleading

"rising from the absolute summit of Potts Point"

Potts Point is a little further down the road last time I looked.

I guess it sounds nicer if you're sitting on your new designer balcony looking down on junkies OD in Potts Point gutters, because Kings Cross gutters are positively awful

Who are they trying to kid, I ask you

finn
March 7th, 2003, 01:44 PM
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>I've gotta say, I'm gonna like this one when it's done. The lighter, softer finish is much need for this area. The roof alteration is good, as well as added spire.

Although reading this line in from the website can be a little misleading

"rising from the absolute summit of Potts Point"

Potts Point is a little further down the road last time I looked.

I guess it sounds nicer if you're sitting on your new designer balcony looking down on junkies OD in Potts Point gutters, because Kings Cross gutters are positively awful

Who are they trying to kid, I ask you</td></tr>
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Well, they get to say Potts Point because officially there is no Sydney suburb named Kings Cross! Kings Cross is just considered to be a "locality" or a "neighbourhood" - like something the locals may refer to, but the Geographical Names Board does not recognise.

"Zenith" is actually officially located in Potts Point - just. Across the street is Darlinghurst and less than 100m to the east (at the end of the block) is Rushcutters Bay!

Bulwara
March 9th, 2003, 06:08 AM
Well there you have it



On another note ...

I was just reading the Sunday Telegraph and came across this little article. It reads :




A non-paying boarder at Sydney's Millennium Hotel seems to be up to her old tricks.

A guest recently awoke in a room on the 12th floor to find "a female spirit completely overpowering him".

The man reported his frightening experience to Sydney clairvoyant June Cleeland.

"It was hovering about eight inches in front of his face," Ms Cleeland says. "He said it was terrifying, with bright red eyes and had a glow all around it."

It's not the first time a ghost has booked into the Millennium. In 1987, tennis star Pat Cash reported something invisible hanging around his room.

John Farnham has also experienced this phantom.


Believe it or not !

finn
March 9th, 2003, 07:01 AM
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On another note ...

I was just reading the Sunday Telegraph and came across this little article. It reads :




A non-paying boarder at Sydney's Millennium Hotel seems to be up to her old tricks.

A guest recently awoke in a room on the 12th floor to find "a female spirit completely overpowering him".

The man reported his frightening experience to Sydney clairvoyant June Cleeland.

"It was hovering about eight inches in front of his face," Ms Cleeland says. "He said it was terrifying, with bright red eyes and had a glow all around it."

It's not the first time a ghost has booked into the Millennium. In 1987, tennis star Pat Cash reported something invisible hanging around his room.

John Farnham has also experienced this phantom.


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That's interesting! Considering the industry standard way of counting floors in Australia - i.e. bottom floor is G (ground) and then the floor above that is Level 1 etc., the ghost has been appearing on what is technically the 13th floor....oooooh, spooky! ;)

I'll buy one of the new apartments on that floor if they give me a big discount because of having to share my place with supernatural beings! ;)

Noonos
March 9th, 2003, 10:04 AM
the new design looks ALOT different for the better

Fabian
March 10th, 2003, 09:43 PM
The Herald is reporting today that employees have walked off the job for 72 hours over a dispute with severance pay. They are negociating and may return to work today. It is hopeful that they receive a good deal which may be better than that from the closure of the Hilton.

Muse
April 11th, 2003, 11:26 PM
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>i was informed that the hotel will close the first week of April. After this, the conversion will start in the first half of April or at the very latest, the beginning of May.

If all goes smoothly, the anticipated completion for the conversion will be June 2004.

Already out of the 97 apartments, 25 of them have been pre-comitted, as of today.</td></tr>
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Gee, my quote was posted on 15/02 and since then (according to this weekend's SMH Domain) deposits have been taken on 50 of the 97 apartments. Well, that's like 49% pre-commited.

It also states that the conversion will be completed by May next year. May, June '04 - take your pick. That's like 1 year!!

I think Zenith with its balconies will be of course wider than the now Millennium Hotel. Now what do you think of this comparison (switch from one to the other)?

Now:

http://www.easternsuburbs.net/Sydney_millennium.jpg

...and the flash web site showing the render of the completed conversion; Loads then "Enter" and Voila! : http://www.zenithliving.com/movie.html

Fabian
April 11th, 2003, 11:55 PM
The hotel to my knowledge has now closed! Let the conversion begin!

Bulwara
April 12th, 2003, 12:58 PM
I've gotta say, I'm soooo looking forward to the transformation of this tower. Are there any other renderings other than what is on the website?

Fabian
April 12th, 2003, 11:58 PM
There was one big rendering on the front page of The Sydney Morning Herald's Domain Apartments yesterday. You can see all the detail.

CULWULLA
June 12th, 2003, 12:11 PM
As part of the DA, the eastern bldg which is part of Millineums podium will also be demolished and replaced with a 15storey/45m BAYSWATER APARTMENTS.!
VERY NICE ALSO!
heres a rendering of the tower. "very North apartments"look bout it.
it takes the EAST SYDNEY skyscraper count to 50!!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/06/196629.jpg

:cool:

brizer
June 12th, 2003, 03:45 PM
What an improvement! The current buildings are pretty heavy-
handed, especially the annex, ie, Bayswater.

Tony P
June 12th, 2003, 04:19 PM
HOLY CRAP!

That's a brilliant render! I hope the glass appears just as blue as in the render! It looks so refeshing! The Cross is really starting to look schmick now!

Top work Cul! :)

Fabian
June 12th, 2003, 09:54 PM
Great rendering. I love the wavy balconies and the blue fascade. It will stand out pretty well.

Muse
June 13th, 2003, 12:08 AM
Just a small albeit an important point - last week while heading up William Street towards Kings X I noticed that The Millenium Hotel's neons have already been dislodged.

It's a start for this important makeover :)

Fabian
July 25th, 2003, 11:58 PM
A month later and there is no real sign of construction commencing, even if only the neons have been removed.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid69/p78184ad5dc478d23931c412f7a8477a5/fba57157.jpg

Noonos
July 26th, 2003, 05:50 AM
yeah! the new shortertower is a great design and so is the planned makeover! i cant wait for it to finish. Just like Wt, i will be able to watch the progress from the train going from Martin pl. -Kings X- Edgecliff

finn
July 26th, 2003, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by Fabian
A month later and there is no real sign of construction commencing, even if only the neons have been removed.


Construction (or should I say destruction) has commenced, with work progressing on the gutting of the tower. Some sections of the facade on the southern side of the building have also been removed.

spazpecker
July 26th, 2003, 02:50 PM
You can spot The Millenium Hotel in this pic from airviewonline.co.au >>

http://www.airviewonline.com.au/photos/0109/1606/0109-1606-35.jpg

Muse
August 2nd, 2003, 04:04 PM
Visited the Zenith sales office today and was told by the rep that out of the 97 apartments, almost 50% have already been sold/pre-commited. He also mentioned that the rooms of the inetrior of the tower have already been 'gutted'.

The apparent completion date is now set at July 2005.

I was allowed to take pics of the model:

_______http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3036/379zenith1-med.jpg

...and to the right, the kind sales rep doing his paperwork LOL:

_http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3036/379zenith2-med.jpg

The old Millennium Hotel with its neighbour, The Elan:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3036/379zenith3.jpg

Fabian
August 3rd, 2003, 12:11 AM
Good to see the Coke sign being preserved. A few more billboards would give the intersection a Times Square look.

CULWULLA
September 22nd, 2003, 05:17 AM
pic from St Johns church today.
hopefully make over will happen soon

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/09/219459.jpg

finn
September 22nd, 2003, 06:03 AM
Originally posted by CULWULLA
hopefully make over will happen soon


It is in the process, but it is mainly internal at the moment. If you get up close to it you can hear all the work going on inside, and see that the main lobby is all closed and boarded up.

Muse
December 3rd, 2003, 04:34 PM
Apprently the latest news is that the developers of Zenith have'nt made the sufficient sales quota to convert this to appartments.

Perhaps being converted back to a hotel and mixed tower with apartments for sale and serviced appartments.

Once again, time will tell.

CULWULLA
April 11th, 2004, 01:44 PM
anymore news on this one?

finn
April 11th, 2004, 01:52 PM
anymore news on this one?

Lol, you tell us Cul! It's within Sydney City Council isn't it? ;)

CULWULLA
April 11th, 2004, 02:21 PM
you got a point?lol ill see if i can locate the planner involved with DA. theres so many new faces at work, its hard to find anyone.

Muse
April 11th, 2004, 02:32 PM
...and I'll call the sales office and if they're contactable, I'll post what they care to tell me.

Muse
April 14th, 2004, 09:11 AM
Did my end. Went yet again to a closed the sales office with its advertising, renders on the wall, models and banners on building all in tact, yet it doesn't look very "lived in" on peering through the window.

So I rang today and was told that sales have been put on hold. Hence the adds disappearing from The S.M.H.'s Domain.

At this stage they are hoping for a 2005 year-end completion.

IMO That building as such without knowing better and with a huge fading pollution-ridden banner is not something that I would desire to live in.

Apparently the developers are having a few problems with approval. Over to you CULS.

Ipggi
June 10th, 2004, 05:46 PM
"One of the City's most recognisable properties, the Kingsgate shopping centre at Kings Cross, and its iconic Coca-Cola sign were sold yesterday for a record $39million.

Fund manager HSBC Asset Management bought the site from New Zealand's Kingsgate Investments and will use it to expand its property asset portfolio."

but more importantly ...

"The Kingsgate Shopping Centre is at the basement of Zenith Residences, the 97 apartments that will be created when Kingsgate Investments converts the Millennium Hotel.

Construction at the Zenith Residences is ready to begin after the recent appointment of St Hilliers Contracting."

http://smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/02/1086058919241.html?oneclick=true


Basically what I heard is that Kingsgate Investments didnt have the money for the conversions and has since been trying to sell everything they own in that block off. Which they seem to have been doing. I really hope HSBC does something with that shopping centre because other then the Coles Express, the Aus Post and the fruitshop there is nothing there.

CULWULLA
August 5th, 2004, 06:04 AM
its started!!!!! noticed full height crane up against the southern face of the tower at lunch today! woohoo!

heres a reminder

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/126zenith-med.jpg

also there is a smaller 15storey tower to its east called Bayside Apartments.

CULWULLA
August 5th, 2004, 07:39 AM
heres a pic zoomed from town hall

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/126zenith1.jpg

Trances
August 5th, 2004, 08:10 AM
wow render is great there and so happy its started

christarrant
August 5th, 2004, 08:48 AM
WOW. I had no idea this was happening. Ive always hated that tower. Looks like it will be identical in size to the old one but alot prettier.:)

christarrant
August 5th, 2004, 08:48 AM
sorry, I noticed a much more refined spire. Is this just artistic creativity ???? How tall ?

CULWULLA
August 5th, 2004, 12:13 PM
spire is approx 30m.

Brizer
August 5th, 2004, 02:34 PM
Same tower but gussified up a lot. Not before time.

Muse
August 5th, 2004, 03:17 PM
Yippee! Good riddance to bad rubbish.

It was completed in 1971 as The Hyatt Hotel but was obviously desinged around the mid-1960s. Redundant is the word.

Looks like by this render of Zenith that CULWULLA posted, that it will be keeping the approx. 30m spire, which to my understanding ATM is a T.V. relay antenna:

__________________http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/126zenith.jpg

Fabian
September 18th, 2004, 12:16 PM
It was good in it's day, but it aint anymore. Time for a makeover.

The antenna has now been dismantled and the tower is now being draped in scaffholding.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid139/p719e38980ff0922f51091efe363748b8/f6f9c5b2.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid139/pb646387fd277e0803f1a30f03f8d28cb/f6f9c59d.jpg

Trances
September 18th, 2004, 12:30 PM
yep slowly being covered

Favco750
October 1st, 2004, 09:15 AM
heres a pic zoomed from town hall

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/126zenith1.jpg


The last photo of the crane at Millennium by Cull shows the crane climbing up the side of the building, you can just see that there is a tower hanging of the front of the crane, which will be slid underneath the crane once it jacks itself up.

This photo must be more than a week old, the other crane on the left isn't there anymore.

Can anyone get close up photo's of the numbers adjacent to the operator's cabin???

I tried reading the numbers from centrepoint, with their powerful bino's, but I couldn't pick if it was 10, 20 or 70.

Brizer
October 1st, 2004, 03:29 PM
Originally built as Kingsgate, later became the Hyatt Kings X, and then the Millenium. It is 29 storeys, 320' or 97.6m, original cost $6m, and designed by architects Hawke & Pereira. Completion date of 1971 sounds right: my computer threw a wally a while back and transformed all dates on the Sydney file to 1912 and as I had destroyed the original copy, I have bugger all hope of restoring them given my level of expertise with computers.

Randwicked
October 2nd, 2004, 05:32 AM
The TV repeater's on the roof of the Elan next door. It serves much of the Eastern Suburbs that aren't in line of sight of the Gore Hill towers.

CULWULLA
October 2nd, 2004, 01:04 PM
Originally built as Kingsgate, later became the Hyatt Kings X, and then the Millenium. It is 29 storeys, 320' or 97.6m, original cost $6m, and designed by architects Hawke & Pereira. Completion date of 1971 sounds right: my computer threw a wally a while back and transformed all dates on the Sydney file to 1912 and as I had destroyed the original copy, I have bugger all hope of restoring them given my level of expertise with computers.
yes , at 97m its RL is 40m, thus 137m abive Sydney harbour!
In 1971, it became the tallest hotel in Australia!! surpassing the 70m/22st Travel Lodge (now Corus Hotel) at Wynyard park.>
http://images1.ine.co.th/australia/hotels/image/central/view/422_view1.jpg

Hyatt kingsgate stayed tallest hotel until 1974 when the Hilton took over.

Trances
October 2nd, 2004, 01:06 PM
now this is another that need to be redone

CULWULLA
November 4th, 2004, 05:59 AM
today, there not mucking around.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid145/pa305e288245b69d6c37d7caa9994b184/f662558d.jpg

Fabian
November 23rd, 2004, 01:31 AM
This morning, i noticed that part of the plantroom??? had been demolished. I saw this on the eastern side of the building.

CULWULLA
December 6th, 2004, 07:29 AM
^ yes the top looks ugly atm. the top plnt will be revamped and new top added. with thin spire.totalling 115m.



eastern view from Rushcutters bay. 2 year old pic.
http://www.adagiomarine.com/year2002/images_sydney/image/a2591.jpg

Ipggi
December 6th, 2004, 02:52 PM
http://defacto2.zftp.com/kingscross_01.jpg

climbing_crane
December 26th, 2004, 03:05 PM
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CULWULLA
January 19th, 2005, 05:28 AM
looking a sad and sorry site.

http://img99.exs.cx/img99/968/zenithjan193au.jpg

CULWULLA
April 6th, 2005, 06:09 AM
its been 12 weeks
time for a pic
view from bridge today
http://img12.exs.cx/img12/9654/zenithfrombridge8uc.jpg

CULWULLA
May 4th, 2005, 06:35 AM
the top section is now exposed to show its silver look
http://img101.echo.cx/img101/3141/zenithmay31kv.jpg

demanjo
May 4th, 2005, 08:22 AM
Regarding a comment a few pages back about adding some more neon billboards... I think that is a great idea. Add a bit more light and vibrance to this particular section of the city. Who cares if its tacky and ugly, every city needs a little neon district!

Muse
May 5th, 2005, 01:08 AM
Wow, a silver-clad crown. Wasn't expecting near as much. :)

It will be such a different Top Of The Cross in about 6 months time.

....

Muse
May 8th, 2005, 04:49 PM
Went by the site yesterday (Sunday) afternoon and this is what I observed http://www.sayhey.co.uk/invboard/html/emoticons/pc.gif

* The mesh was completely off the western side yet was still on the eastern side, the full height of the tower component.

* The balconies that could be seen are painted almost the same light brown colouring as The Elan's facade.

* The silver metallic cladding just won't be encasing the crown, but will also run down the slender vertical sections that seperate the main hexagonal larger sections where the balconies are located. Virtually the same silver as the fin atop Elan.

Once completed, Zenith will complement The Elan with the brown colouring, the silver metallic material and both having antennae.

Definitely not the perfect pic comparisons for what I explained/described above, but (hopefully) you get the picture (no pun intended):

____http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379zenithapts1.jpg__http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379elan1.jpg

CULWULLA
May 9th, 2005, 12:22 AM
i wonder when spire goes on? i havent got height of that. looks 12m? so height will go from 97m to 109m.

CULWULLA
May 9th, 2005, 06:04 AM
view from state library today
http://img144.echo.cx/img144/750/zenith4rm.jpg

CULWULLA
May 13th, 2005, 04:36 AM
finally looked at plans today of Zenith. Its not 97m high, its 90m exactly. the permanent watertank atop roof takes it to 93m .The 15m antenna has been getting repainted /restored and will be put back up soon but as a spire function, so official height will be 108m. Also its not 35 storeys, its 30storeys (5 below). The floor to floor is small short (2.56m) probably due to being designed in late 1960's.

CULWULLA
May 13th, 2005, 05:56 AM
today
http://img225.echo.cx/img225/5670/zenithmay135op.jpg

SinCity
May 13th, 2005, 08:13 AM
Nice pic Cul. Definately starting to look better than from before.

Blue_Copper
May 16th, 2005, 04:42 AM
pictures coming tonight....

Blue_Copper
May 16th, 2005, 01:00 PM
http://img217.echo.cx/img217/1277/img26218qk.jpg

CULWULLA
May 16th, 2005, 01:30 PM
ex cellent pic pete.

CULWULLA
May 30th, 2005, 06:19 AM
http://img274.echo.cx/img274/2162/zenithmay304rf.jpg

CULWULLA
August 9th, 2005, 06:08 AM
the 15m spire was hoisted back on last week
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8133/zenithaug95to.jpg

CULWULLA
August 18th, 2005, 12:16 AM
cranes gone. this is now externally completed!

SinCity
August 19th, 2005, 07:56 AM
I'm a tad disappointed. The rennovations have somewhat give it a "cheap" look. I thought it was to have a more modern glassy look to it. :(

Muse
August 19th, 2005, 01:23 PM
Yeah, just looks like The Hyatt/Millennium with balconies lol

ParraMan
August 19th, 2005, 04:58 PM
A "tad" disappointed, no.... Very disappointed, yes. They must be joking if that is pretty much the finished product. The only "improvement" I can see, is the top. The addittion of balconies does nothing at all for the look of the building when the original facade is still to be seen in between the balcs. Maybe (wishing...) they just want to get a new crane or something to continue the job!!

demanjo
August 20th, 2005, 02:26 PM
Yeah i will agree, the reno has done shit all.

Vitriol
August 23rd, 2005, 05:43 AM
They should put this in the Comics section of the newspaper, alongside a photo of the building before it was "refurbished". Then they should add the caption, "Can you spot the differences?"

We can all have a good laugh about it then, because this is a bloody joke.

finn
August 23rd, 2005, 05:48 AM
I don't actually think it is completed yet - they still seem to be doing work on the external facade and I saw a couple of sections of windows that are still without glazing.

CULWULLA
August 23rd, 2005, 06:18 AM
we need photos up close.

Ipggi
August 23rd, 2005, 01:23 PM
You are a bit ahead of yourselves. It is not completed, externally or internally. You guys should know more then anyone, just because a crane is removed doesnt mean the work is done, specially during a referb. I just walked passed there tonight and in the dark you can clearly see there is external work still going on. Heck there are some large extenal wholes on the first numbers floors on the Darlinghurst facing side.

I am pretty sure all the old exterior paneling will be replaced or painted over, it just seems they are doing it by hand using suspended scaffolding.

Vitriol
August 24th, 2005, 05:54 AM
You could dress this ugly building up in streamers and balloons and it won't make much difference. Just admit it, what we're seeing is pretty much the finished product and not even a fresh coating of paint will change that.

Ipggi
August 24th, 2005, 06:10 AM
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3036/379zenith1-med.jpg

Well this is a photo of the model that was posted in this thread a while ago, I don't know what you guys were expecting?

But anyway judging from that model, there is still alot of work that needs to be done, specially on the base floors etc.

CULWULLA
August 24th, 2005, 06:37 AM
i had a look from the pool today and tower is pretty much done. as ipggi said, just a bit of work on podium to do.

Its better then what was there originally.

aug3,2003
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3036/379zenith3.jpg

sirhc8
August 24th, 2005, 10:36 AM
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/7175/p10003883sp.jpg

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/5926/p100038825me.jpg

You can see they've yet to peel the protective coating away, but it won't do much for the overall appearance.

drnilescrane
August 24th, 2005, 11:26 AM
The model shows that the brown bits in between the floors is to be clad, along with flush windows - Budget Cut?

wowsim
August 24th, 2005, 11:29 AM
Che disastro!

CULWULLA
August 24th, 2005, 12:36 PM
well at least this tower has its place in Australian skyscraper history!
In 1970 it was Australia's talllest hotel at 30storeys/90m high.Standing proudly above KingsX.It was numero uno for 4 years until completion of Hilton hotel.Its amAzing how Hilton still remains Sydney's tallest hotel and also 2nd tallest in Oz.
thanx for pic Chris!

Vitriol
August 24th, 2005, 03:24 PM
Its amAzing how Hilton still remains Sydney's tallest hotel and also 2nd tallest in Oz.
Moreso frightening than amazing.

CULWULLA
August 24th, 2005, 03:30 PM
hotels have gone out of fashion since mid 1990's.serviced apartments have killed them off.

SinCity
August 25th, 2005, 08:08 AM
hotels have gone out of fashion since mid 1990's.serviced apartments have killed them off.

What is the difference between the 2? I gather serviced apartments are more larger?

Anyway this renno is utter horseshit. I would have prefered it left as it was before. This refit seems hung halfway between the old and new. Ghastly contrast.

I say they film towering inferno in but this time let it burn ......

CULWULLA
August 25th, 2005, 08:21 AM
Hotels dont have kitchens. Serviced are basically larger and "serviced'.

SinCity
August 25th, 2005, 08:31 AM
Hotels dont have kitchens. Serviced are basically larger and "serviced'.

Thanks. :) It also makes it easier to flog them off as apartments at a later date.

Ipggi
August 31st, 2005, 09:16 AM
These were taken today, still not finished in my opinion .. just look at the balcanies up close etc. The last pick give a bit of a preview IMHO.


http://defacto2.zftp.com/photos/z/1.jpg

http://defacto2.zftp.com/photos/z/2.jpg

http://defacto2.zftp.com/photos/z/4.jpg

http://defacto2.zftp.com/photos/z/3.jpg

Vitriol
August 31st, 2005, 03:38 PM
Well now that I've seen the balconies up close, I guess I was wrong after all! The building is quite beautiful! Who knew that those gorgeous balconies could have made all the difference?

Ipggi
September 1st, 2005, 12:26 AM
Well now that I've seen the balconies up close, I guess I was wrong after all! The building is quite beautiful! Who knew that those gorgeous balconies could have made all the difference?

You don't have to be a sarcastic arsehole just because you don't agree with me. My comment about the balcanies was simply that you could still see the red steal brackets attaching them to the building, so it seems that they still have a bit of exterior (and I assume interior) work to do.

CULWULLA
September 1st, 2005, 12:30 AM
great ipggi, nice pix. just ignore vitriol.
looks ok. better then original facade.
cheers

CULWULLA
September 14th, 2005, 06:32 AM
pic by IPGGI
http://defacto2.zftp.com/photos/kx05/DSCF2505.jpg

Muse
September 24th, 2005, 01:37 PM
nice...

Mephisto
September 25th, 2005, 11:27 AM
It's not too bad, a big improvement on before. Nice pix.

taof
May 15th, 2006, 07:48 AM
Hi guys. Just wondering is anyone has any good quality current pics of Zenith.
I designed the window and facade system on this and a few other buildings mentioned on this site and am looking for pics to use on my website.

Cheers
Dave

Muse
May 15th, 2006, 09:49 AM
Might be able to get you a few on Weds or Thurs with the Pentax.

In the meantime, make sure you share some inside goss on projects, without breaking confidentiality of course ;)

...

Muse
May 16th, 2006, 10:10 AM
taof, check your PMs (private messages), in the top right-hand corner :okay:

taof
May 17th, 2006, 03:18 AM
taof, check your PMs (private messages), in the top right-hand corner :okay:

Thanks for that, much appreciated.

As far as gossip goes, its a bit quiet at the moment so we're doing a few smaller jobs.
Recently finished - Darling Island with Mirvac
Kensington Uni with Lipman
Quad-4 - Homebush - Lend Lease
Santos - Flinders Link - Adelaide
Clarence St - Buildcorp
55 Miller st.
London Crt - Canberra.

and a few others... nothing interesting to report..

I came across this site when I was looking for pics of buildings I designed facade systems for overseas and found pics of the Ministry of Finance in Brunei and JTC Headquarters in Singapore.
This is a great reference site...