New £7mil, 2 tier 4,500 capacity (terraced and seated) East stand announced for the Rugby half including cantilever roof. Leeds Rugby (http://www.leedsrugby.com) Taking to total capcity to over 21,000 and adding classrooms for Leeds Met Uni and corporate facilities.
Great News
But when are they going to get round to that awful main stand? Lots of opportunity for business corporate boxes & facilites (rake in the money) and room for expanding capacity and a cantilever roof. Not only this but as it is used for rugby and cricket it has more potential for income. Not only this but underneath is all the player facilities which could be upgraded....

One thing that's been puzzling me for a while - what exactly does "Leeds Met Carnegie" mean...?

see what did i tell you? i've not got a 140 IQ for nothing

The Carnegie Stand (Named after Andrew Carnegie I think?)

"Only in popular education
can man erect the structure
of an enduring civilization."
— Andrew Carnegie

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http://www.leedsmet.ac.uk/the_news/images/05/new_stand/230-new-stand-2.jpg
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06/09/05

Professor Simon Lee and Gary Hetherington hold an artists impression of the new stand


Headingley Stadium is set to undergo its most historic redevelopment work in over 70 years with the announcement of the new Carnegie Stand situated at the eastern end of the Rugby Stadium.

The new Carnegie Stand, which will incorporate 1,844 seats in its 4,550 capacity, will be developed in partnership with Leeds Metropolitan University and will give the university a permanent base at the Stadium.

The Carnegie Stand will incorporate 12 seminar rooms, a major facility for up to 350 people, together with a mini helpzone and triple the number of disabled spaces currently available at Headingley Stadium.

The project will start on 11th October and is due to be completed by the end of July 2006.

Commenting on the announcement Leeds Rugby Chief Executive Gary Hetherington said, “This is an historic announcement for the Stadium and shows our commitment to restoring Headingley to its correct place at the pinnacle of rugby stadia. We are extremely grateful to Leeds Metropolitan University for their support in this partnership that will have wholesale advantages for both sides.

“In 2003 we set out our vision statement for Leeds Rugby Limited and this announcement sees the fruition of that vision. We committed to making Leeds Rugby the leader in club rugby and a profitable business that will support investment in Headingley by 2006. We are now in a position whereby Leeds Rhinos are World Champions and Leeds Tykes have an opportunity to be Heineken Cup Champions this season and we are investing the profit into Headingley Stadium.

“We are immensely proud of the heritage of Headingley Stadium as the current custodians in its 115 year history. The building of the Carnegie Stand is the biggest structural change to the Stadium since the rebuilding of the Main Stand in 1932 and brings new modern facilities for all supporters to benefit from on a matchday.”

Professor Simon Lee, Vice-Chancellor of Leeds Metropolitan University, said, “Leeds Metropolitan University is delighted that our partnership with Leeds Rugby is going from strength to strength. We want the players, staff and supporters of the clubs to feel at home on our campuses and we certainly feel welcome at Headingley Stadium. The Carnegie Stand will improve the environment still further, both for those watching the games and for those who want to study or come to events in this special setting where students rub shoulders with champions. We are grateful also to the club for making this happen so swiftly that the new stand will be ready well ahead of 2007 when we will be celebrating our first hundred years of education in Headingley.”

Excellent to finally see some development kicking off at Headingley. Seems like a rather enthusiastic and optimistic timescale though - total project build lasting around 10 months? Presume they may build straight on to the terrace and use the pre existing concrete as a foundation?

this was from the BBC website - just a rehash of the announcement on the Leedsrugby website:

Headingley to begin £7m rebuild
Leeds Rugby have announced they will begin the £7m redevelopment of their Headingley Stadium next month.
Work on the ground, which is home to Leeds Rhinos and Tykes, will begin on 11 October and is expected to be completed by the end of July 2006.

Ground capacity will be reduced by nearly 5,000 to 16,600 while work on the new Carnegie Stand is carried out.

It has been financed, without any grant funding, in partnership with Leeds Metropolitan University.

Leeds Rugby chief executive Gary Hetherington said: "This is an historic announcement for the stadium and shows our commitment to restoring Headingley to its correct place at the pinnacle of rugby stadia.

"We are now in a position whereby Leeds Rhinos are world champions and Leeds Tykes have an opportunity to be Heineken Cup champions this season and we are investing the profit into Headingley Stadium."

so they arnt actually increasing the capacity overall.....

or at least not by much

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=249820

"...and Leeds Tykes have an opportunity to be Heineken Cup champions this season..."

...in very much the same way that Trinidad and Tobago have an opportunity to win the FIFA World Cup next year :D

Anyone any opinions on the very real prospect of Headingley losing it's Test status? If the Council fails to come up with the readies to lend YCCC by the end of December (10 days!!) then under the MCC rules Headingley will lose test status until 2017 at the earliest.

If this happens it will be another example of the present council being the most disastrous in recent memory IMHO.

Heard today that LCC are going to lend YCCC £9m to help secure the test status of the ground.

I am not suprised it will lose this status if it isn't improved. It is by far and away the worst test ground in the country.

Heard today that LCC are going to lend YCCC £9m to help secure the test status of the ground.

I am not suprised it will lose this status if it isn't improved. It is by far and away the worst test ground in the country.

You can't have been to Old Trafford then.

Has the 9m loan been approved then? Source?

You can't have been to Old Trafford then.

Has the 9m loan been approved then? Source?


OT is far superior to Headingley IMO.

Source - a guy at work. Mind you considering it it's probably bollocks!

It is by far and away the worst test ground in the country.

Seconded (though I've only been to Headingley and Trent Bridge in person)...

OT is far superior to Headingley IMO.

Source - a guy at work. Mind you considering it it's probably bollocks!

Old Trafford is bigger, has a beautiful pavilion and is a much more attractive ground but the facilites are dreadful and the terraces are falling apart. Really, it needs a hell of a lot of work on it but they can't afford it hence they've started holding concerts to get some cash in.

The work on Headingley has provided us with a pretty characterless but very functional ground and it provides what the MCC require.

Your mate at work was possibly confused. The announcement was made that the deal was going ahead but when the council and YCC met up to ratify the deal it fell through due to reasons unknown. This was a couple of days ago. They now have until 31st December to get it sorted or bye bye test matches at Headingley after over 100 years.

He's the sort that is easily confused so what you say it more than likely the truth at this moment in time!

For the sake of a £9M loan LCC should help YCCC out. For a city that aspires to be some sort of Euro city like Lyon or Milan the loss of Test cricket from the city is hardly the way forward.

been to Headingley, Lords and the Oval, and yes, compared to the two, Headingley is truely behind the times. That said, it's been years of under investment and a site that is massively restricted by surrounding roads and housing estates.

I should be going to Headingley on Sunday 8 Jan to watch my beloved Bath get their revenge for the Powergen Cup final loss - I'll take some photos of the new stand...

From the BBC:

Yorkshire County Cricket Club have been granted a £9m loan to enable them to buy their Headingley headquarters.
The decision was taken by Leeds City Council at a meeting on Friday and the club hopes to complete the £12m purchase by the end of the year.
They must do so to secure Headingley's future as an international venue, but club members will have the final say at a meeting on Saturday.
Leeds Cricket, Football and Athletic company are the current owners.
Yorkshire must repay the loan over a 15-year period and chief executive Colin Graves told BBC Sport: "We're delighted to be able to secure the future of Test match cricket at Headingley.

"I'd like to thank Leeds City Council for everything they've done for us, especially for giving us the chance to own this magnificent stadium."

Chairman Robin Smith added: "The arrangement represents a victory for the city and the club. The city's future and reputation will be enhanced by the continuity of international cricket at Headingley

"Without the council's loan, this transaction would have been impossible and now we can put in place a platform for enduring progress for the club and for Yorkshire cricket."

Test cricket was first played at Headingley as long ago as 1899 and, although there was no Ashes Test there in the summer, it will return next August when England take on Pakistan.

But the addition of Durham's Riverside headquarters and the Rose Bowl in Southampton to the list of international venues means Yorkshire are not are guaranteed Test cricket every year.

The club has, however, been offered a staging agreement by the England and Wales Cricket Board, which guarantees Headingley's place on the list until 2019.

But they must own the ground by the end of 31 December for the agreement to come into effect.

Councillor Mark Harris, deputy leader of Leeds City Council, defended the outlay by saying: "We have always been very conscious of the importance of Test match status to Leeds.

"An independent study has shown that it would cost the city millions if Headingley lost it, not just in the present but in the future too.

"The cricket ground is one of the city's crown jewels and cricket one of its major sporting attractions. It is crucially important to the city's reputation and standing nationally and internationally.

"We are fully aware that these are public funds and throughout these negotiations it was vitally important that we were absolutely satisfied that the way in which we were lending the money was secure.

"The public can be assured that the loan will be at nil cost to the taxpayers, both the interest and the capital sum will be fully repaid by the club."

From the BBC

I've criticised this council before, hats off to them for this.

Good news and the right decision for the whole city not just cricket fans.

Lets hope that we get an Ashes test in 2009.

Agreed.
(Hoping to be in Perth at the WACA for next yrs Ashes btw :D)

Good news and the right decision for the whole city not just cricket fans.

Lets hope that we get an Ashes test in 2009.

There will be an Ashes test at Headingley in 2009, a sweetener given when it was announced we'd miss out this year. Other test venues will find they'll miss out as well over the next few years.

Was up at Headingley for the Tykes v Newcastle (VERY unlucky to lose btw). The new stand is just at the foundations stage now - ie flattened rubble - no sign of the old terrace.

I should be going to Headingley on Sunday 8 Jan to watch my beloved Bath get their revenge for the Powergen Cup final loss - I'll take some photos of the new stand...

Well, I went along yesterday with my trusty digital camera, but as the train was pulling into Leeds it started chucking it down - I planned a route to Headingley to take me from Bridgewater Place, past the Whitehall Road stuff and the developments around Burley Road, but didn't even both taking my camera out of my pocket, it was that grey and wet... There was nothing to photograph at Headingley either, just a couple of diggers on the levelled patch of earth where the old stand used to be.

And to top it all, we lost. Again. :(

Come on Leeds :nocrook: ;)

NEW ERA FOR HEADINGLEY CARNEGIE STADIUM
Plans were today revealed for a historic redevelopment of the newly named Headingley Carnegie Stadium encompassing both the rugby and cricket stadia that will usher in a new and exciting future for one of the most famous stadiums in world sport.
The new name of Headingley Carnegie Stadium will come in with immediate effect after a significant financial investment by Leeds Metropolitan University. The plans can now come to fruition following the successful purchase of the freehold of the cricket stadium and business by Yorkshire CCC from the owners since 1890, Leeds CF&A Co Ltd.
The plans include a new North/South Stand to replace the existing structure which was built after fire destroyed the original stand in March 1932 and a new Pavilion and Media Centre for cricket at the stadium.
The partnership with Leeds Metropolitan University continues a successful relationship between them and Headingley Stadium. The new stand at the Eastern end of the Rugby Stadium has been built in conjunction with Leeds Met and will be named the Carnegie Stand.
However, even before recent times there has been a strong link with both cricket and rugby and the Carnegie faculty of Leeds Metropolitan University including such great names as Eric Harris, Brendan Foster and Lewis Jones.
The purchase of Headingley by Yorkshire CCC brings to a highly successful conclusion a long period of negotiations between both parties, with the partnership with Leeds Metropolitan University being a key factor.
Commenting at the unveiling, Robin Smith, Chairman of The Yorkshire County Cricket Club said, ‘‘The Headingley vision, once realised, will mean that Headingley will have become one of the finest sports complexes in the Country, providing cricket, rugby and educational facilities to world class standards.’’
Paul Caddick, Chairman of Leeds CF&A and owner of both rugby codes at Headingley, added, ‘‘We are proud to have played our part in helping Yorkshire CCC achieve their dream of owning the cricket freehold and business and the support of Leeds Met has been very important. We can all look forward to a very bright and exciting future together.’’
Professor Simon Lee, Vice-Chancellor of Leeds Metropolitan University, was present at Headingley along with Chancellor Brendan Foster MBE to reveal the new name and he added, ‘‘In the best pioneering traditions of our first hundred years in Headingley, this unique partnership takes the relationship between sport, community and university life beyond all boundaries.’’
The deal to purchase Headingley by the Yorkshire County Cricket Club also ensures Test and international cricket at Headingley with a 15-year international staging agreement with the England and Wales Cricket Board now in place.
England captain Michael Vaughan OBE commented, ‘‘As both a Yorkshire player and captain of England, I am delighted that the future of cricket, and in particular international cricket has been secured at Headingley. Our famous old ground has witnessed some of the finest moments and battles in world cricket and now supporters of the future can become part of our heritage.’’
For the first time in their 142-year history, Yorkshire CCC now own their own ground. Chief Executive of The Yorkshire County Cricket Club, Colin Graves, commented, ‘‘It has been a dream of many a Yorkshireman that the most famous cricket club in the world should be in charge of its own destiny. After a long and gruelling journey, I am honoured to have been part of the team who have been able to secure the future of our great club and international cricket at Headingley.’’
Gary Hetherington, Leeds CF&A Co Ltd Chief Executive, concluded, ‘‘The support of Leeds Met was a factor in achieving the Leeds CF&A/Yorkshire CCC deal and this partnership will bring significant benefits to Headingley Carnegie Stadium and the Rhinos, Tykes and Yorkshire CCC teams. It is great news for everyone concerned.’’
From LeedsRugby.com

Great news for Leeds, a top class cricket stadium once more (world famous too!), it'll be 3rd biggest in UK after Oval and Lords. Good to see the rugby stadium going to match the status of the club with 2 brand new stands can't wait!

I agree, we'll finally have a cricket ground that looks like a proper test venue. Shame the capacity of the rugby ground is not being increased greatly though.

Bollocks! I went along again today to watch the Leeds v Cardiff European Cup match (what the hell were the Tykes on?!?!?!?), this time without my camera, and there's plenty to see now! It would appear that both tiers of the new stand are being erected simultaneously, as a small "slice" has been built, including the concrete deck of both tiers and the cantilever roof support, on the rightmost side when looking from the west terrace.

Bollocks! I went along again today to watch the Leeds v Cardiff European Cup match (what the hell were the Tykes on?!?!?!?), this time without my camera, and there's plenty to see now! It would appear that both tiers of the new stand are being erected simultaneously, as a small "slice" has been built, including the concrete deck of both tiers and the cantilever roof support, on the rightmost side when looking from the west terrace.

and it was your smegging Bath team that couldn't hold Leinster at home meaning all the good work the Tykes did this afternoon was pretty much redundant!!! I've a sneaky feeling we're not going down.

Apparantly, the stadium is now known as 'Headingley Carnegie' as a result of the Leeds Met funding. The new stand is a huge boon to the stadium, first proper development since the South Stand got a new roof.

and it was your smegging Bath team that couldn't hold Leinster at home meaning all the good work the Tykes did this afternoon was pretty much redundant!!!

Hey, don't blame me, I wasn't playing!

Outline plan for a new Cricket/Rugby stand.
http://www.southstander.com/fusion_images/newnorthstandplan.jpg

New stand
http://www.southstander.com/fusion_images/carnegiebuild.jpg

Outline plan for a new Cricket/Rugby stand.
http://www.southstander.com/fusion_images/newnorthstandplan.jpg

New stand
http://www.southstander.com/fusion_images/carnegiebuild.jpg

ah top work daveylad2- great to see that they are planning on sorting the Grandstand out sooner rather than later. It will be a huge disruption to the Tykes, Rhinos and Yorkshire CCC, but the sooner it is done, the better. A property test venue style stand is definately welcome. Am home next weekend, so will try and get a couple of snaps of the new stand starting to take shape. Not exactly Twickenham, but it'll do the job.

Hey, don't blame me, I wasn't playing!

fair point. Always need a scapegoat, and when its a Bath fan, you've got to leap. to be fair the Calvisano bonus point issue gave us false hope anyway. Priority is staying up, but the thrashing of Cardiff (Lomu et al) should give them added confidence for the rest of the season.

Outline plan for a new Cricket/Rugby stand.
http://www.southstander.com/fusion_images/newnorthstandplan.jpg

Is it just me or does the rugby stand look tiny?

New stand
http://www.southstander.com/fusion_images/carnegiebuild.jpg

My old standing spot behind the sticks is no more :cry:

Is it just me or does the rugby stand look tiny?



I wouldn't read too much into these plans. I think it was a bit of a rush job by the architects to show how the new double stand might work.

I had a drive to Headingley yesterday (flying visit back to Leeds) and couldn't believe the progress on the East Stand. The south east corner has the framework completely up including roof and some concrete terracing! It's admittedly only a small section but the way that it's progressing I wouldn't be surprised to see it open mid (league) season. Can't wait!

No pics sadly as it was dark when I got there. Sorry!

So does this mean that the new stand will 'curve' round to join onto the southstand? So there will be a corner stand to the ground?

I hope when they build the main North stand they really push the boat out. It's the show piece stand and their last chance to add any seating capacity or corporate boxes so they need to fill the new stand with boxes and make sure the capacity of seating is as big as possible. Hopefully the facilities inside the stand will be good aswell for both supporters and players. An area like the concourse within the East Stand at Elland Road would be good, and it could be used by both the cricket and rugby. Davelylad did you go to the presentation then to get that pic? There were some pictures shown on BBC Look North at the time but I've not seen them anywhere else. Any news on the capacity implications for the rugby side? I know cricket will increase by 3,000.
Won't the West stand look rubbish now - not a very good welcome for away fans! Still I'd rather see them rebuild the SouthStand first!

The vision of the future for Headingley- http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=89&ArticleID=1310943
Cricket and rugby clubs are planning to make Headingley one of the world's top sporting venues. John Ledger reports.

LEEDS Rhinos and Yorkshire yesterday spelled out their determination to restore Headingley's status as one of the world's pre-eminent sporting venues on a momentous day in the history of the famous old stadium.
As well as announcing a lucrative naming rights deal that will see the ground be known as Headingley Carnegie Stadium for the next 10 years, the cricket and rugby clubs mapped out their plans to haul the ageing complex into the 21st century.
Yorkshire, who took ownership of the cricket stadium for the first time in their history less than two weeks ago, will work closely with their former landlords to transform the face of Headingley in readiness for the 2009 Ashes.
At the heart of the redevelopment will be the demolition of the existing North Stand/Football Stand and the construction of a state-of-the-art shared stand that will take the capacity of the cricket stadium up to the 20,000 demanded by the England and Wales Cricket Board.
Yorkshire's commitment to boosting the capacity to the ECB minimum helped them secure a 15-year international staging agreement at the same time as they completed the £9m purchase of the ground from Leeds CF&A in the last few days of 2005.
Although the new stand will increase the capacity of the rugby ground by less than 600, Leeds officials insist the facility could see Headingley win back its place on the Test match rugby league circuit.
The total cost of the ambitious redevelopment, which includes the £7m Leeds are spending on building a new east stand, is around £28m and though funding details remain sketchy, officials with both clubs are confident of carrying out their plans.
"The Headingley vision, once realised, will mean that Headingley will have become one of the finest sports complexes in the country, providing cricket, rugby and educational facilities to world class standards," said Yorkshire chairman Robin Smith.
Leeds chief executive Gary Hetherington revealed that Yorkshire Forward, the Government-backed regional development agency, were involved in the negotiations and would be a valuable source of grant aid.
"Everybody recognises the need to develop Headingley. We are well down the road with support from Yorkshire Forward," said Hetherington.
"A recent economic impact study conducted by Sheffield Hallam University showed how valuable Test match cricket at Headingley is to the whole region. Yorkshire Forward recognise that and we hope they are going to be a major partner in the future development. Things are very promising. The new East Stand is a reality, the deal with Yorkshire has been done and we hope to move swiftly to the next stage."
Hetherington said work on the new £11m shared stand, which will take 11 months to complete, could begin as early as August next year.
"It is inevitable that the work will disrupt business for both the rugby clubs and the cricket club but it has to be done," he said. "If we work towards our preferred timescale then we'd start in August 2007 because in the spring of 2008 it's the rugby league World Cup in Australia and the Super League season is likely to start later.
"That would give us a seven-month free run and, if we play our first three or four matches of the 2008 season away from home, it would entail minimal disruption."
The shared stand would create 3,000 extra seats for the cricket stadium but just 340 more – along with 250 corporate places – on the rugby side, numbers which will do little to boost the capacity of a ground which was regularly filled to bursting point in 2005.
Leeds Metropolitan University secured the rights to call the venue Headingley Carnegie Stadium with a "significant financial investment". As well as sharing sporting expertise with the rugby club, the university will have wide-ranging use of the facilities within the new Carnegie Stand.

TIMELINE

2000 – Work begins to rebuild the western terrace and instal modern bucket seating, the first stage of a long overdue £14m redevelopment of the cricket stadium.
2001 – A new east stand, northern enclosure and north-east corner transform the look of the cricket venue.
2000-2002 – £3m worth of work on the rugby ground involving a refit of facilities beneath the South Stand and new roof on the main stand is completed.
2005 – The old terracing at the old scoreboard end of the rugby ground is demolished to make way for a new £7m facility, the Carnegie Stand. Scheduled for completion in September 2006, the stand will have a capacity of 4,540 and will feature 13 classrooms, a 650-seater cafe and banqueting suite.
August 2007 – Work to begin on a new £11m shared stand featuring an extra 3,000 seats on the cricket side that will increase the Test venue's capacity to 22,000. The double-tiered cantilever stands will feature shared executive boxes above a central concourse housing bars and concession stands.
Post-2009 – Yorkshire to build a new pavilion and media centre at a cost of around £7m. Leeds to investigate means of extending the South Stand.
12 January 2006

I have to say it all sounds impressive; shared concourse, cantilever roof, shared exec boxes, cricket capacity up by 3,000 etc etc. HOWEVER I am very disapointed that the capacity of the rugby ground will hardly be increased. These are the most expensive seats and would have been a good way of cashing in on corporate seats/rich people. There won't be a chance to add more seating for maybe upto 100 years (assuming this stand and the new east stand last that long) so seems a little short sighted, especially since there were lots of sell-out games last few seasons. How about adding a full-time big screen too (maybe built into the roof ala Spurs at White Hart Lane: (http://www.footanglais.com/presequipe.php?id=9&nom=TOTTENHAM). Good to see they plan on increasing South Stand Capacity as the next project in 2009!

Davelylad did you go to the presentation then to get that pic? There were some pictures shown on BBC Look North at the time but I've not seen them anywhere else. fans! I got the picture from www.southstander.com
My bad, I'll make it clear where I get things from in future. :)

Not being that familier with the ground and only visiting at night, what kind of space is there behind the south stand at the rugby ground?
Would it ever be a possibility to put an upper tier of seating beyond the terrace?

Not being that familier with the ground and only visiting at night, what kind of space is there behind the south stand at the rugby ground?
Would it ever be a possibility to put an upper tier of seating beyond the terrace?

There's loads of room behind the South Stand, currently used as a car park. However there's no room at all behind the west terrace and it's so close to the houses behind that I can't see what could be done to redevelop that end.

So if there is plenty of expansion capacity for the south stand, would they ever try to build a big showpiece stand there? Flashy Corperate boxes, plenty of additional seats (while keeping the terrace at at least the current capacity) and better facilities.

I don't think they would to be honest. With the Main North stand all-seater, and the East stand half seating/half standing, I think the fans wouldn't take kindly to what is traditionally the loudest stand for the 'real' fans being made half seater. Although, there is plenty of space for such a stand and maybe if the amount of standing capacity was also increased it may sweeten the deal. I think the atmosphere may suffer if they did that though. That's why I think it's important they put loads more seating capacity and corporate boxes into the new Main North stand.

Personally, I'd love it if they just doubled the capacity of the south stand, put on a new roof and made it easily the biggest, most impressive terrace in the country!

I was having a similar discussion with a fellow Rhinos fan the other week. It's vital, we concluded, to keep the terraces as a key part of what gives rugby league its atmosphere. The south stand tends to be pretty full pretty much every game, whether we're playing Bradford or Salford. The south standers tend to be die hards who'll go to every game. Therefore I'd say that keeping the character of the south stand as is whilst expanding other parts of the ground slightly would be the priority with the north stand being a great opportunity to add to the capacity and as you say add to the corporate facilities, although most of these are currently located in the Headingley Lodge in the NE corner rather than in the north stand itself.
Trying to merge corporate boxes with the south stand wouldn't work IMO.

I caught a glimpse of the new stand on The Rugby Club last night - I was rather surprised how little it had changed since the Cardiff match in January...

With Super League now underway as well, those with Sky should be able to keep tabs on progress on an almost weekly basis:

24 Feb: Tykes v Worcester
3 Mar: Rhinos v Castleford
17 Mar: Rhinos v Salford
9 Apr: Tykes v Saracens
13 Apr: Rhinos v Bradford
21 Apr: Rhinos v Castleford (again)
30 Apr: Tykes v Gloucester
5 May: Rhinos v Harlequins
12 May: Rhinos v Hull

Personally, I'd love it if they just doubled the capacity of the south stand, put on a new roof and made it easily the biggest, most impressive terrace in the country!

Yep, i agree. it's not in the nature of the club to be an all-seater or corporate venue.

I read in the Sunday Times today that the stadium is now completely non-smoking - very good to hear...

I was up for the Rhinos v Huddersfield game last week. There seems to be steady progress on the East stand with about a third of the framework up. Sadly I forgot to take my camera, so no pictures :(

We certainly need it completed soon as the crowd was 16,000 and it was bursting at the seams. There'll be a lot of disappointed people who won't be able to get tickets for the games against the big teams.

In terms of smoking apparently Yorkshire is quite a leading region, with many places already implementing a ban before the actual ban comes in, in 2007.

I remember reading a couple of years back they took out the underground heating from the pitch - judging by last night (Leeds v Cas cancelled 40 minutes before kick-off). a bit of a mistake? They said at the time that it was affecting the quality of the pitch but surely if they put a new modern system in it would be advanced enough not to? A leading club like Leeds should have under soil heating surely?

Good pics of developments so far with the new East stand - http://leeds.rlfans.com/readarticle.php?article_id=366 Seems as though they're building it in 2 halves?

Seems as though they're building it in 2 halves?

I see where you're coming from, but that's not the case. When I went to the Cardiff game in January the new construction only went about a fifth of the way across the east side (starting from the South Stand), but was "complete" up to the roof - in other words they're working sideways across the pitch rather than building the lower tier first...

Good stuff - seems the new Carnegie Stand roof height is virtually twice that of the current South Stand. Can they build a similar new stand at the other end of the pitch or would it be too close to the houses around the back?

theres not even enough space to put a roof on that stand withough reduceing the capp.
i think they should rebuild it with a roof even though it would reduce the capp. and puting a new scorebord at the back along with a perminent big screen. and make it away only, then add lots more capp to the southstand creating a huge monster of a stand with seating ontop and more standing than there is but also knocking down the wall at the back of the southstand carpark and paithing the aria like it is neer the shop. therefore having a big open space with a brand new suporters club and mabe a matchday minni shop. and a huge leeds rhinos statue of a player.

what would be very good but wont happen is to knock down the expirience and place it all in the north stand.

they obviusly should keep the electric tickets.

sorry for spelling and grammer. :cheers:

http://leedsrugby.dnsupdate.co.uk/leedsrhinos/stadium_plan.htm#

that is a plan of the stadium, i think its rong as the west terris is smaller than that and the east was bigger. but it gives a rough plan.

sorry for spelling and grammer. :cheers:

Apology accepted. :D

Think this might help :)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/LULegend/Headingly.jpg

this is what i want to happen plus more after:
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/1037/headinglymyplan8zw.th.jpg (http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=headinglymyplan8zw.jpg)

More updated images of the new stand today at leedsrugby.com
http://leedsrugby.dnsupdate.co.uk/leedsrhinos/news/news-images/newspic27546.gif

More updated images of the new stand today at leedsrugby.com
http://leedsrugby.dnsupdate.co.uk/leedsrhinos/news/news-images/newspic27546.gif

Wow. What a great stand. It looks like the real deal.

was there yesterday. nerly finished the framework!
ps. any rhinos fans go to the rhinos bit of www.leedsrugby.com and take the questionaire!

was at the leeds dulls match and it looks the real deal now!anyone herd anything about a new scoreboard as 2 of the spaces that are to be used as boxes were bricked up.
the stand is easaly up to were the last picture of the slideshow ends now if more. one week infront!
what do you lot think they will do will the west end?

I reckon there ain't much they can do with the West stand... Next project is the Main North Stand (can't wait - hope they get it right (although dubious about no increase in capacity)). After that I think there'll be a long wait for any more development (redevloping 2 stands in such a short space of time is pretty good anyway). I think they'll go for knocking down the South Stand after that rather than doing the West End... (Much more profitable). It's only away supporters in the West stand anyway, let 'em suffer out in the elements while we're in 3 plush new stands!!!

I reckon there ain't much they can do with the West stand... Next project is the Main North Stand (can't wait - hope they get it right (although dubious about no increase in capacity)). After that I think there'll be a long wait for any more development (redevloping 2 stands in such a short space of time is pretty good anyway). I think they'll go for knocking down the South Stand after that rather than doing the West End... (Much more profitable). It's only away supporters in the West stand anyway, let 'em suffer out in the elements while we're in 3 plush new stands!!!
it is not only away fans in the west stand but no dought it will be after all the new stands are up.
i think they will rebuild the west stand and place a cantalever roof over it. it would reduce capp but improve fasilertys and matchday.
plus the amout of capp would not be needed if it was an away only stand.
the southstand is phase 3 and sould be the biggest of the lot. although i think they might as well do both ss and ns at the same time as there is no way that we could stay at HQ with ether one of the side stands gone.

As I understand it they will begin constructing the North Stand at the end of the season, summer 2008. The construction will begin as soon as the last match is over. The World Cup is held in Australia in Summer 2008. I think because of this the Superleague will finish earlier of start later either side of the World Cup. This means an extra long break in 2008 which is when they plan to build the North Main Stand. They also mentioned they would aim to play a few games away from home consecutively at the start of the season to minimise disruption.
So basically I think Rhinos will stay at Headingley the season the North Main Stand is rebuilt.
However I don't know what they will do if they rebuild the South Stand...

this is why i think it would be more constuructive if they were built together!
problem is then the tykes would have to miss a stand. although a ss myslelf the north stand brings in the most money as it is all seats and contains 1-3 confrence rooms, 2 bars, the changing rooms and the loo's for the west and obviusly north stand. it also has lots of boxes at the back!

they would have to do it in the winter (or at least start) due to 2 sports in the stadium in summer and only 1 in the winter.

another this that come up in convo was is they will be having the new sky box in one of the east stands boxes as when when the bbc come to the ground they build one for them as the one above the southstand is small and old, and the worst place for noise it could be in the ground.

I'd imagine if they ever did anything to the south stand, they wouldn't have to demolish all of it as the terracing will stay. Therefore, as it is accessable from the sides building work could happen at the back while still leaving the front of the stand open, softening the blow.

is that not iligal?
from what i understand you are saying have people in a stand that is under consturiction.

is that not iligal?
from what i understand you are saying have people in a stand that is under consturiction.

That happens all the time! The South Stand at Twickenham is under construction, but the lower tier is now open for matches. As long as a safety certificate is given allowing spectators to use the facility, there's no problem...

The popularity of Super league is growing every year, especially in Leeds where people have become detached from Leeds United. People will always follow a top team that entretains and if the club believe they can fill the stadium, they will continue to redevelop. I think that the ground could get to the 25k-30k stage at some point.

The popularity of Super league is growing every year, especially in Leeds where people have become detached from Leeds United. People will always follow a top team that entretains and if the club believe they can fill the stadium, they will continue to redevelop. I think that the ground could get to the 25k-30k stage at some point.

NO EXTRA CAP IN THE NEW EAST STAND! (well from what i know)
PLANS FO THE NORTH STAND HAVE NO EXTRA!
NO EXTRA CAP IN WEST AS THERE IS NO SPACE!

the only option is to build the north and south stands with lots more cap is what you think is true!

I think it's a big mistake not adding more capacity in the North Main Stand. The East stand couldn't be much bigger on the site it's on, especially given all the corporate space/conference rooms/uni lecture rooms in there. They did well to keep capacity the same changing from all terrace to half seated, as seated takes up much more room.
Given that the new main stand will be there for 80-100 years before it is re-rebuilt it seems short sighted not to add extra seated capacity...
I'd expect once the North main stand is rebuilt, Headingley Carnegie can harbour hopes of hosting International games, though the 22,000 capacity may hold it back. Add 3,000 extra to the Main Stand and 25,000 might be enough.
It's not as if games don't sell out on a regular basis... Surely after completely rebuilding 2 sides of the ground for £Millions they should be looking for SOME increase in capacity!?

But there is no room to add any extra capacity to the North Stand while reatining anything resembleing Legroom without making it a one sided stand. All the future expansion possibilities are in the south stand.

Basicly tho, Headingly is a pretty poor site for expansion. You could build about two headinglys on the spare ground at Elland Road

I think they could fit another 3,000 in - it's not even tiered at the moment - add a second/third tier, making the stand taller could accommodate a few extra rows. Given that the stand runs the length of the field it would only take a few extra rows. They are adding 3000 extra capacity to the cricket side, so I don't see why not on the rugby side too...
It's quite frustrating because I remember when Headingley became Headingley Carnegie, BBC Look North showed scenes from inside the press conference, and an artists impression of the new stand. I can't find this since on the web though...

if i am corect they will rebuild the stand in lene with the cricket witch will meen that the rugby side will be further back (alowing it to be bigger) it also had plans for a small second tier.

if i am corect they will rebuld the stand in lene with te cricket witch will meen that the ugby side will be further back (alowing it to be bigger) it also had plans for a small second tier.

Um, and again in English please?

http://www.southstander.com/fusion_images/newnorthstandplan.jpg

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Grrr I searched for hours for pics... Thanks Daveylad... There was also a 3d pic of the stand?...

http://www.southstander.com/fusion_images/newnorthstandplan.jpg

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After many hours of graphic design, I've managed to add 3000 extra seats to their design:
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5030/newnorthstandplannew9sp.jpg
Can't see why this wouldn't be possible/sensible?
Sorry for AWFUL 'artwork'

After many hours of graphic design, I've managed to add 3000 extra seats to their design:
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5030/newnorthstandplannew9sp.jpg
Can't see why this wouldn't be possible/sensible?
Sorry for AWFUL 'artwork'

Problem is that the people in the upper tier of the cricket stand would not be able to see the pitch immediatly infront of the stand. No-one would build a new stand with that many restricted view seats.

Although the same could be said of the other side to a lesser extent.

Now, If the roof was raised to allow the angle of the upper tier to be steeper...

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5030/newnorthstandplannew9sp.jpg[/IMG]
Can't see why this wouldn't be possible/sensible?
Sorry for AWFUL 'artwork'

Easy - draw a few stick people in your new upper tier. Then draw a player on the edge of the pitch. Now draw lines from the heads of the people in the upper tier to the feet (or even the head) of this player and see where they go. Oops.

Was at Headingley for the mauling of Casvegas. The structure of the new East stand looked almost complete - would guess it's done by now... Looks very impressive, bigger than you would expect too. Should return the capacity to 22,000 when done which is good... Put's the 'Main' North stand to shame a bit now - it's taller and obviously much more modern... Roll on the new North stand!

Am I the only person that thinks, considering the restrictions on most of the site, they couldn't of made the capacity of the new East stand a bit bigger? I mean, if they have room for all those classrooms and whatever else at the back, couldn't they of add some extra rows to the northern end of the stand and followed the road closer?

Am I the only person that thinks, considering the restrictions on most of the site, they couldn't of made the capacity of the new East stand a bit bigger? I mean, if they have room for all those classrooms and whatever else at the back, couldn't they of add some extra rows to the northern end of the stand and followed the road closer?

I have also wondered this, if they had not of put all the classrooms in the back it would defiantly be a lot bigger.
One question I am wondering at this time is what colour the seats will be. They are obviously most likely to be blue but the Carnegie colours are green and purple and it is the Carnegie stand after all. My other wonder is if it will have “text” in the seats e.g. ‘LEEDS’. I have looked and they could fit this in although the L and the S would be a bit squashed.

Does anyone have any new pictures of the stand?

I'd imagine this would be true, but since Leeds Met Carnegie have probably paid for a large chunk of this new stand they were able to get the classrooms in there. Will be useful for corporate matchday use too though. Was up there for Leeds Tykes last Premiership game (for a year anyway) but there were 2 main problems taking a pic:
I was seated and too high in the stand to get a good view
I don't own a) a digital camera or b) a camera phone.
Oh the shame of it :doh:

Unrelated, sorry, but was today the worst Rhinos performance since the heady days of Lance and Powell? Don't think we managed to complete more than a couple sets of 6 in the entire 80 minutes. Unbelievable.

Unrelated, sorry, but was today the worst Rhinos performance since the heady days of Lance and Powell? Don't think we managed to complete more than a couple sets of 6 in the entire 80 minutes. Unbelievable.
totaly agree!

I was there yesterday; it looks like they are building a bridge from the new stand to the experience building (that’s all the executive suites). That is all I can think it is anyway sop don’t quote me on it.
I also have a photo of the stand from the harlequinsRL game but don’t know how to put it up.

Yes they are building a walkway from the new stand to the building in the NorthEast corner - I think all for corporate purposes...
RhinoMatt - to put ur pic onto here, first save the photo onto your hard drive. Then go to www.imageshack.us then you upload the pic onto the website.
It gives you a link to the page which you can post on here...

the pic is too big to upload. :(

Rhinomatt - open the file on your PC, go to 'Save As' and save it as a Jpeg or jpg file.

Thanks! The pick was taken 5th of May so you can imagine how it has come along. it now has a frame for a bridge from the stand to the brick building and they have started to put the white 'tiles' on the walls as well as the roof.

http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/1072/newstand5thmaymedium3kd.th.jpg (http://img310.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newstand5thmaymedium3kd.jpg)

http://leedsrugby.dnsupdate.co.uk/leedsrhinos/news/news-story.asp?Index=4872

^^ first pic from at the back of the stand at the bottom of this link ^^

Thanks! The pick was taken 5th of May so you can imagine how it has come along. it now has a frame for a bridge from the stand to the brick building and they have started to put the white 'tiles' on the walls as well as the roof.

http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/1072/newstand5thmaymedium3kd.th.jpg (http://img310.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newstand5thmaymedium3kd.jpg)

great shot matt. I drove past the stand 2 weeks ago, and its certainly rather dominating, especially if you live in those houses across the road. Shame it can't be repeated at the other end, but that terrace literally sits in the back garden of several houses. Looks like the main stand rebuild will be the next on the radar.

Great 'to nil' spanking of the Bulls at Odsal tonight. The Rhinos have been rather up and down this season.

Couldn't believe it when I heard the score, put them Bullocks in their place, well done Rhino's.

Couldn't believe it when I heard the score

Ditto. I remember when it was hard to get any sort of score against the Bulls.

yes the game was awsome!
i also think it is a shame that the stand can not be coppyed at the west end.

To blank anyone in Super League is something, but to do it to the Bulls, at Odsal, is just something else.

yes the game was awsome!
i also think it is a shame that the stand can not be coppyed at the west end.
Well done the Rhinos!
Quite funny that it is the West stand that can't be improved - shows what we think of the away supporters! Once the Main Stand is rebuilt the away West stand will look awful in comparison to the plush new stands for the Home Supporters!
I have to say though that I think mistakes are being made by not increasing capacity in either the new East or North stands!

To blank anyone in Super League is something, but to do it to the Bulls, at Odsal, is just something else.

agreed!
i said to my mum we would thrash the dulls (although didnt expect to nill them)

Well done the Rhinos!
Quite funny that it is the West stand that can't be improved - shows what we think of the away supporters! Once the Main Stand is rebuilt the away West stand will look awful in comparison to the plush new stands for the Home Supporters!
I have to say though that I think mistakes are being made by not increasing capacity in either the new East or North stands!

yes it is a huge mistake, i think they will increase the capacity southstand.
i also think they will rebuild the west stand and add a roof with a new scoreboard. even if it reduces capacity.
and i would not be suprised if they add some capacity to the north stand even though they have said otherwise.

Next time I am at Headingley I shall take a picture of the new stand. I will be there for the saints match on the 22nd.
I will now hope to get a picture on here for every home game leading up to the opening day which I shall get a pick then as well.
I think there are only two more home games till it opens and the game it opens (1st September)
Thanks

just seen this on www.leedsrugby.com pick looks good aswell:


http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4420/newspic30496jk7.jpg


LEEDS RUGBY HAS TIME ON ITS SIDE

Leeds Rugby will have time on their side with the installation of a new clock in the centre of the new Carnegie Stand at Headingley Carnegie Stadium.
It will be the first time that a clock has been specifically installed to the rugby stadium since the club was removed from the old scoreboard and has been kindly donated by local jewellers Berry’s.
The bespoke clock makes a magnificent centre piece to the new £7 million development at the stadium which has been built in partnership with Leeds Metropolitan University.
Present at the unveiling were Berry’s owners Jeffery and Simon Walton along with the Rhinos mascot Ronnie the Rhino and Tykes mascot Terry the Tyke and Leeds Rugby Chief Executive Gary Hetherington. The clock will receive it’s official switch on when the stand is opened on 1st September.

http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7393/newstandxp3jo5.th.jpg (http://img308.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newstandxp3jo5.jpg)
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/115/dsc00610cb7rd8.th.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00610cb7rd8.jpg)
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5403/dsc00608cn6gs1.th.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00608cn6gs1.jpg)
http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/9275/lei001800wu0.th.jpg (http://img309.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lei001800wu0.jpg)
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1691/southstandlb3gb2.th.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=southstandlb3gb2.jpg)
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1221/shedud4ra0.th.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shedud4ra0.jpg)

It will be the first time that a clock has been specifically installed to the rugby stadium since the club was removed from the old scoreboard and (it) has been kindly donated by local jewellers Berry’s.
The bespoke clock makes a magnificent centre piece to the new £7 million development at the stadium which has been built in partnership with Leeds Metropolitan University.
Present at the unveiling were Berry’s owners Jeffery and Simon Walton along with the Rhinos mascot Ronnie the Rhino and Tykes mascot Terry the Tyke and Leeds Rugby Chief Executive Gary Hetherington. The clock will receive it’s official switch on when the stand is opened on 1st September.

1. Don't Leeds Rugby have anybody who can write press releases in decent English? :bash:

2. It's nice to see that the new stand will be opened just in time for the Tykes' new season in National One :)

1. Don't Leeds Rugby have anybody who can write press releases in decent English? :bash:

2. It's nice to see that the new stand will be opened just in time for the Tykes' new season in National One :)

The Tykes are Band from using the seating in the stand due to lack of capacity at there games.

the 'R' is messed up!
http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/3812/newspic30515ei7.jpg

Picks from 11th AUG, 3 hours from K.O so the ground is empty, New stand opens 22 days from when the picks where taken. (opens 1st SEPT).

The Seats are all in:
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/397/sta60013cm0.jpg


Impressave stand:
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4240/sta60014dw7.jpg


The C, A, R and the 1st E are all messed up :D :
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3296/sta60015vk5.jpg


The Swish new Boxes & the New 'old clock' over-see all:
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7303/sta60016wl1.jpg

Thanks for those great pics! Been hoping to see how the stand was progressing. Looks top-class. How long til a conversion smashes the hands off the clock?...
Cannot wait to see what they will do to the main stand...

Yea I can’t ether, the north (main) stand will be the biggest and presumably have some descent boxes in it unlike the ones it has now. I should be a all seating two tier cantilever, containing new changing rooms, a new players lounge, new press rooms, a couple of new bars ( to replace the ‘long bar’ and ‘Ronnie’s bar’), new toilets, new tunnel and new ‘dugouts’.

Funny actually as I said the same thing about the clock when I 1st saw it up there.

The actual structure looks bigger than the sating capacity it contains.
Sounds daft - but does anyone agree?
The stand looks big but then it seems to dwarf the numner of seats!
Have they got as many in there as they possibly could?!
Itll be strange not seeing the grass banks round the back in the corners!

Headingley, 1972

http://www.leodis.net/imagesLeodis/screen/63/20031030_55036563.jpg

1900s

http://www.leodis.net/imagesLeodis/screen/31/2003214_57758731.jpg

One of the best reclads in Leeds, the Headingley Arndale Centre

http://www.leodis.net/imagesLeodis/screen/54/9154.jpg

http://www.leodis.net/imagesLeodis/screen/44/2002610_30265444.jpg

The actual structure looks bigger than the sating capacity it contains.
Sounds daft - but does anyone agree?
The stand looks big but then it seems to dwarf the numner of seats!
Have they got as many in there as they possibly could?!
Itll be strange not seeing the grass banks round the back in the corners!

I can see what you meen, but i think it may be just the way it has been planed out.

One of the best reclads in Leeds, the Headingley Arndale Centre


Totally agree. If only they'd reclad the whole complex, rather than just the tower element. Who knows, we may be getting that sometime in the future. Sure as hell needs it.

Subliving.

Looks like the Rhinios & Yorkshire CCC are planning to plough ahead with the Main Stand rebuilding... Hard to believe that what is the MAIN stand for the rugby side will have only 5,000 seats - huge opportunity missed here...

YEP: Smith admits fears over McGuire
by Peter Smith
LEEDS RHINOS boss Tony Smith today admitted he is growing increasingly concerned and frustrated over the injury absence of leading try scorer Danny McGuire.


Danny McGuire
The Great Britain stand-off, pictured left, – who has missed four games due to shin splints – was today ruled out of the clash with Warrington Wolves at Headingley Carnegie tomorrow.
Smith revealed: "Danny had a fitness test yesterday and he is not right.
"It has been causing concern from week one, not just now. He is going back to have more scans.
"He has had scans and tests right from the start, but we have obviously got to go back and look again.
"He has shown improvement, but not enough for him to actually play, which is a real frustration for him."
Smith added: "It is exceptionally frustrating for me as well, but there's nothing you can do about it except to do all the investigations and do all the best you can for him and hope he comes through it."
Shane Millard (wrist) and Chev Walker (ankle) have both passed fitness tests on injuries which kept them out of the win over Wakefield 13 days ago and are expected to return tomorrow.
Prop Chris Feather has dropped out of the initial 20-man squad which was named on Tuesday.
Meanwhile, chairman Paul Caddick today confirmed Leeds Rugby are committed to further development at Headingley Carnegie – but he insisted that will not be at the expense of the Rhinos team.
Headingley's new £7m Carnegie Stand will be officially opened tomorrow.
That will be the first major development on the rugby side of the Headingley complex in 70 years and plans are now being drawn up for a new main stand, to be built in conjunction with Yorkshire County Cricket Club.
Caddick – who took over 10 years ago – said the Carnegie Stand and all future development at Headingley is designed to bring in more funds to strengthen the team.
"As chairman of a rugby club you need to keep an eye on two things," said Caddick.
"One is team performance and two is business development.
"Over the last 10 years we've improved hugely our community relationship, the Academy, Academy facilities, and training facilities.
Development
"Unfortunately in sport you're only as good as your last game and I'm hugely aware that there has to be a balance between facilities and the requirements of the coaching staff and squad.
"Any development is there to provide more income to fuel the squad. We have got one eye on the future development of the stadium, but we're also keeping an eye on the performance of the team, the squad and the whole set up.
"The next phase of development, driven more by the cricket, would see the north/south stand rebuilt for the Ashes Test of 2009. To do that virtually requires the builders to step on site next year.
"From a rugby perspective we don't have that requirement, because the new stand will have 5,000 seats and we now have 5,000 seats. The only difference is those 5,000 will have a better view.
"We have an eye on keeping matters good with Yorkshire, the Yorkshire public generally and Sport England. We are focused on that being the right strategy.
"We want to see Headingley as an iconic stadium for both cricket and rugby, but in no way will that be at the expense of the Rhinos' squad or team requirements."
The Carnegie Stand will be open to fans tonight when Rhinos under-21s host Warrington in the Senior Academy Championship (8pm).
Warrington today confirmed the signing of Bradford Bulls' centre/second-row Paul Johnson on a two year deal beginning next season.

was down there today for the accadamy match, they let us in the new stand to test it out, some faults but not that bad.

http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=235026

has lots of pictures.

I think the next thing Headingley stadium needs is a railway station on the Harrogate line. Arriva Northern can then operate short working special on match days/nights running Leeds-Stadium-Horsforth. They could then reverse through Horsforth crossover to come back.

Headingley already has a station that is well-used by match goers. Extra trains are often put on for special events that terminate at Horsforth. (Increasing frequency from every 1/2hr to every 15 minutes). Btw Northern operate the trains now; not Arriva Trains Northern.

Headingley already has a station that is well-used by match goers. Extra trains are often put on for special events that terminate at Horsforth. (Increasing frequency from every 1/2hr to every 15 minutes). Btw Northern operate the trains now; not Arriva Trains Northern.
Most People use burly park station, as it is nearer the stadium.

I was thinking of a station directly at the back of the ground. Headingley is about .75 miles away and Burley Park is 0.5 miles away.

that could actualy be a good idia and while building the station they could make the bridge at the back dubble laned!

Well, while agreeing to the comments, I must say that its pretty poor if someone can't be bothered to walk 0.5m

I was thinking more of the poor fans from other clubs who can't wait to get on their trains after being thrashed by the Rhinos.

Seriosuly, though, as said above, they could also take the opportunity to sort the tiny bottle-neck bridge out.

If it was up to me there would be a monument or sculpture/statue somewhere in the ground. Hopefully when they do the SS it could be there (at the back).

My current worry is how the will do the NS and the SS. there is no way that rhinos could play there with ether missing.
Sadly I can see a move to ellend rd for a season but hopefully they will do both stands at once.
I am hoping we don’t move.

The Main North stand only seats 5000, so if closed capacity would be down to 17k just like it was this season, so doubt they would move when doing the North stand. Agree they need to move if they do SS.

yes but you have to think, the changing rooms and press rooms are in that stand along with 2 bars and the loos for the west stand.
On top of that the dugouts are there as well.
Plus where will all the executives go, there are only a few exec seats in the new stand. All taken for next season.
On top of that with it being double sided it will also affect the cricket (well, it would ether way as they wont move).
There are basic changing rooms in the SS but something tells me they won’t use them as they will have to come into the south stand, there will be no match official changing rooms and they are not worthy of SL use as they are just rooms with benches.
It isn’t just a matter of capacity loss whilst doing the north stand, but when doing the south stand it will be.

I suspect that some portacabins would solve all these problems on a temporary basis. The loss of exec areas could easily be solved by doing the hospitality in the Headingley Lodge and seating them in the west stand. I'm disappointed however that the opportunity to add a couple of thousand extra capacity when the new north stand is built hasn't been taken.

I'd be amazed if anything is done with the south stand for several years.

I suspect that some portacabins would solve all these problems on a temporary basis. The loss of exec areas could easily be solved by doing the hospitality in the Headingley Lodge and seating them in the west stand. I'm disappointed however that the opportunity to add a couple of thousand extra capacity when the new north stand is built hasn't been taken.

I'd be amazed if anything is done with the south stand for several years.

im gutted too.
and i hope you meen east stand.

and i hope you meen east stand.

That's the one, I've never been too good with compass points!
Don't think Mr Hetherington et al would be too chuffed at standing in the rain behind the sticks! ;)

That's the one, I've never been too good with compass points!
Don't think Mr Hetherington et al would be too chuffed at standing in the rain behind the sticks! ;)
lol :)

I was thinking of a station directly at the back of the ground. Headingley is about .75 miles away and Burley Park is 0.5 miles away.

Yes, and having those stations where they are helps with the dispersion of the crowd after games - if there was a station where St. Michael's Lane crosses the railway line you'd have a massive jam there after sell-out matches...

If we're talking about stations next to grounds, the place that is really in need of one is Elland Road!

If we're talking about stations next to grounds, the place that is really in need of one is Elland Road!

But this thred is not about that ground! so LETS NOT GO DOWN THAT PATH!
find the ER post and post it there! :bash:

Only problem with having a station at Headingley Stadium is where the heck would it go! I'm not too familiar with that end of Headingley, how far away is the train line from the stadium? Would it be better to have a light railway, or short underground walk or something?

Subliving.

Only problem with having a station at Headingley Stadium is where the heck would it go! I'm not too familiar with that end of Headingley, how far away is the train line from the stadium?

Spitting distance.

Visit http://tinyurl.com/rgrps (the railway line is between the double row of trees running along the bottom).

Subliving.Why do you write "Subliving." at the end of every post?!?

In which case, there is no problem with getting a train station in there. If it fits! I suppose it would have to go near that little road by the back of the ground. How would such a narrow street cope with a massive increase in footfall?

I sign it off like that because it gives a little bit of continuity to my posts.

Subliving.

The vision of the future for Headingley- http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=89&ArticleID=1310943
Cricket and rugby clubs are planning to make Headingley one of the world's top sporting venues. John Ledger reports.

LEEDS Rhinos and Yorkshire yesterday spelled out their determination to restore Headingley's status as one of the world's pre-eminent sporting venues on a momentous day in the history of the famous old stadium.
As well as announcing a lucrative naming rights deal that will see the ground be known as Headingley Carnegie Stadium for the next 10 years, the cricket and rugby clubs mapped out their plans to haul the ageing complex into the 21st century.
Yorkshire, who took ownership of the cricket stadium for the first time in their history less than two weeks ago, will work closely with their former landlords to transform the face of Headingley in readiness for the 2009 Ashes.
At the heart of the redevelopment will be the demolition of the existing North Stand/Football Stand and the construction of a state-of-the-art shared stand that will take the capacity of the cricket stadium up to the 20,000 demanded by the England and Wales Cricket Board.
Yorkshire's commitment to boosting the capacity to the ECB minimum helped them secure a 15-year international staging agreement at the same time as they completed the £9m purchase of the ground from Leeds CF&A in the last few days of 2005.
Although the new stand will increase the capacity of the rugby ground by less than 600, Leeds officials insist the facility could see Headingley win back its place on the Test match rugby league circuit.
The total cost of the ambitious redevelopment, which includes the £7m Leeds are spending on building a new east stand, is around £28m and though funding details remain sketchy, officials with both clubs are confident of carrying out their plans.
"The Headingley vision, once realised, will mean that Headingley will have become one of the finest sports complexes in the country, providing cricket, rugby and educational facilities to world class standards," said Yorkshire chairman Robin Smith.
Leeds chief executive Gary Hetherington revealed that Yorkshire Forward, the Government-backed regional development agency, were involved in the negotiations and would be a valuable source of grant aid.
"Everybody recognises the need to develop Headingley. We are well down the road with support from Yorkshire Forward," said Hetherington.
"A recent economic impact study conducted by Sheffield Hallam University showed how valuable Test match cricket at Headingley is to the whole region. Yorkshire Forward recognise that and we hope they are going to be a major partner in the future development. Things are very promising. The new East Stand is a reality, the deal with Yorkshire has been done and we hope to move swiftly to the next stage."
Hetherington said work on the new £11m shared stand, which will take 11 months to complete, could begin as early as August next year.
"It is inevitable that the work will disrupt business for both the rugby clubs and the cricket club but it has to be done," he said. "If we work towards our preferred timescale then we'd start in August 2007 because in the spring of 2008 it's the rugby league World Cup in Australia and the Super League season is likely to start later.
"That would give us a seven-month free run and, if we play our first three or four matches of the 2008 season away from home, it would entail minimal disruption."
The shared stand would create 3,000 extra seats for the cricket stadium but just 340 more – along with 250 corporate places – on the rugby side, numbers which will do little to boost the capacity of a ground which was regularly filled to bursting point in 2005.
Leeds Metropolitan University secured the rights to call the venue Headingley Carnegie Stadium with a "significant financial investment". As well as sharing sporting expertise with the rugby club, the university will have wide-ranging use of the facilities within the new Carnegie Stand.

TIMELINE

2000 – Work begins to rebuild the western terrace and instal modern bucket seating, the first stage of a long overdue £14m redevelopment of the cricket stadium.
2001 – A new east stand, northern enclosure and north-east corner transform the look of the cricket venue.
2000-2002 – £3m worth of work on the rugby ground involving a refit of facilities beneath the South Stand and new roof on the main stand is completed.
2005 – The old terracing at the old scoreboard end of the rugby ground is demolished to make way for a new £7m facility, the Carnegie Stand. Scheduled for completion in September 2006, the stand will have a capacity of 4,540 and will feature 13 classrooms, a 650-seater cafe and banqueting suite.
August 2007 – Work to begin on a new £11m shared stand featuring an extra 3,000 seats on the cricket side that will increase the Test venue's capacity to 22,000. The double-tiered cantilever stands will feature shared executive boxes above a central concourse housing bars and concession stands.
Post-2009 – Yorkshire to build a new pavilion and media centre at a cost of around £7m. Leeds to investigate means of extending the South Stand.
12 January 2006

I have to say it all sounds impressive; shared concourse, cantilever roof, shared exec boxes, cricket capacity up by 3,000 etc etc. HOWEVER I am very disapointed that the capacity of the rugby ground will hardly be increased. These are the most expensive seats and would have been a good way of cashing in on corporate seats/rich people. There won't be a chance to add more seating for maybe upto 100 years (assuming this stand and the new east stand last that long) so seems a little short sighted, especially since there were lots of sell-out games last few seasons. How about adding a full-time big screen too (maybe built into the roof ala Spurs at White Hart Lane: (http://www.footanglais.com/presequipe.php?id=9&nom=TOTTENHAM). Good to see they plan on increasing South Stand Capacity as the next project in 2009!

Hoping to see some news on this soon - if they wanna start in Aug they need to get a shift on with planning/renders etc?

Hetherington said work on the new £11m shared stand, which will take 11 months to complete, could begin as early as August next year.
"It is inevitable that the work will disrupt business for both the rugby clubs and the cricket club but it has to be done," he said. "If we work towards our preferred timescale then we'd start in August 2007 because in the spring of 2008 it's the rugby league World Cup in Australia and the Super League season is likely to start later.
"That would give us a seven-month free run and, if we play our first three or four matches of the 2008 season away from home, it would entail minimal disruption."

Even I know that the 2008 Rugby League World Cup will be after the Super League season, which is therefore likely to start earlier, not later...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Rugby_League_World_Cup

PS Where are you quoting yourself from? :?

Quoted from earlier in this thread (I think).
Sounds like the WC has been moved since the announcement: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/4972052.stm
Hope this hasn't messed up the project - would love to see Headingley with 2 new stands...
Wonder if Superleague will finish earlier in 2008 and build it then?

Ahhhh, I've just realised that the Yorkshire Post article is from way back in January! :)

found this the other day - apparently the new design for the Wintershed at the Kirstall Lane end at Headingley.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=415705

looks fantastic, very futuristic and will look like a superb sweeping curve.

Remember this is just one of the phases, the rugby ground stand redevelopment is probably even more important, though not sure of the status on that one.

If Headingley doesn't want to loose anymore tests to places like Chester le Street or Sophia Gardens, then it really needs to compete, and I think this is a great proposition should it come to fruition.

Looks good - though I'm suprised to see details of this - I'd thought the Rugby stand was going to be first...
Good to see there's some more covered seating for all those showery afternoons too. Interesting to see further backing by Leeds Met Carnegie, plus classroom facilities. Construction hoped to start June 07 too!

It'll make the rugby stand look incredibly dated already!

Looks good - though I'm suprised to see details of this - I'd thought the Rugby stand was going to be first...
Good to see there's some more covered seating for all those showery afternoons too. Interesting to see further backing by Leeds Met Carnegie, plus classroom facilities. Construction hoped to start June 07 too!

I guess that this development would be much easier to accomplish as a construction project, and probably much less difficult in terms of logistics and reduced capacity that the Rugby Stand would necessitate.

I think this is stonking news, am right excited about such a positive and modern design for the ground which really is seen rather parochially in terms of some of other major grounds.

Also the ground will be awesome from the East Stand with it's hotel round to the North and this new stand. Plans for a new main stand too so then there will be 3 great stands! Get them built quick!

I think this is stonking news, am right excited about such a positive and modern design for the ground which really is seen rather parochially in terms of some of other major grounds.

Regardless of the history, maybe the YCC should have taken that chance to move to Wakefield and build the best stadium in the country. If Yorkshire cricket is seen as parochial, so is Yorkshire.

Regardless of the history, maybe the YCC should have taken that chance to move to Wakefield and build the best stadium in the country. If Yorkshire cricket is seen as parochial, so is Yorkshire. :runaway:
That'd would be sacriledge!!!
Why not move Wimbledon tennis to a brand spanking new site somewhere else. Or how about start playing the FA Cup final in Wales! :nuts:

Regardless of the history, maybe the YCC should have taken that chance to move to Wakefield and build the best stadium in the country. If Yorkshire cricket is seen as parochial, so is Yorkshire.

okay, perhaps I meant the ground is more traditional and less developed than many of its rivals. Its also very constricted by its surrounding roads and houses. Parochial probably suggests the crowd are a bunch of carrot crunchers from Wetwang. :runaway:

lol.

I live 30 seconds walk from the stadium and even I didn't know about this ;)

So any idias for what the future holds?

Work is due to start in September on the new £13m pavillion at headingley stadium, full story: http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=89&ArticleID=2059869

Good news! Leeds Met Carnegie Uni have really pumped some money into Headingley 'Carnegie' Stadium - The Cricket stadium will look really good with the new stand to the North and the hotel stand to the East...

I'm just a little concerned that they had planned to rebuild the main stand that joins the rugby and cricket stadia first - there hasn't been any mention of this so far, and I can only presume it will have to wait until the new pavillion is finished in 2009... Shame really as it would have improved both sides of the stadium so much...

You can see details of the new stand: http://www.yorkshireccc.com/news/pavilionscheme though the details may have changed slightly since then

So how large will the new pavilian increase capacity?

http://www.yorkshireccc.com/news/agm2007

CARNEGIE PAVILION

Stewart said that subject to Board approval on March 23 and subject to contract and the consents required the Club would start work in September, and seek to complete the project in time for the 2009 Ashes Test.

Yorkshire would keep freehold ownership of the land on which the Wintershed Stand sits and grant the rights to Leeds Met on a 99-year lease. Leeds Met would construct, in partnership with the Club, a multi-tiered building in the region of 4,000 square metres.

Yorkshire would lease back exclusively 1,000 square metres for players' facilities, offices, retail and corporate entertaining, while a further 700 square metres would be shared with the university including the Media Centre and corporate boxes which would double as teaching areas.

Members would have access to the pavilion for cricket during the season, and the Club would provide members' seating which could be accessed for county cricket as well as international matches.

This is a hugely exciting and innovative development for Yorkshire County Cricket Club, made possible through our partnership with Leeds Met," Stewart said. "We would simply not be able to afford to develop such a prestigious building if it could not be viewed as dual purpose.

"During the cricket season we will welcome the best cricketers in the country - and, indeed, the world - for international matches. We will host the world's media and entertain VIPs, sponsors and corporate guests from around the globe.

"We will have undoubtedly one of the best cricket pavilions in the world - the Carnegie Pavilion.
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So 4 days to go before it's official (surely a formality), then should see some plans pretty quick if they want to start in September. Great news - early sketches looked very impressive (see earlier in thread). As a rugby fan I'm sad to say it looks like 2010 at the very earliest for the new Main Stand that was rumoured...

http://www.yorkshireccc.com/news/news690274186

Thursday, 22nd March 2007
Yorkshire Chief Executive, Stewart Regan talks about cricket matters and more.


Members approved the outline proposals for the Carnegie Pavilion Complex at the AGM on 17th March. Are you happy that the plans do not include any extra seating capacity and that the Cricket Club will be required to pay Leeds Met to lease back that part of the complex which they will use during the season?



There are plans for good quality corporate and members seating as part of the development. The proposals consist of a tiered pavilion of approximately 4,000 sq. metres with just over a thousand square metres exclusively for the use of The Yorkshire County Cricket Club all year round. The rest of the plan will include teaching and student accommodation which will include space that can double up for internationals as corporate areas, media centres, journalist areas and more.



The structure of the deal will be that Yorkshire County Cricket Club will own the freehold of the land on which the pavilion sits and we will then be granting those rights back to Leeds Met for a period of 99-years, leasing back the ability for them to build the building on a 99-year lease and having developed that building they will then lease back to us our exclusive space. It’s a real win-win – we get a pavilion built that we couldn’t otherwise afford, we get it used all year round which is one of the objectives that the board has got for the development of the ground anyway and we have the space we need when we need it. It is the best deal we could possibly hope to get with a minimum capital outlay from the club, so I think it’s a big tick.



How confident are you that the arrangement with Leeds Met, in regard to the new pavilion, will be problem free? From the sidelines it seems a bit odd to give away ownership of one of the major buildings just as we have finally got ownership of the ground, with all the advantages that has brought.



To refer back to the previous answer, we own the land and that is the key thing. We sub-lease that building back to Leeds Met and take back the elements we need. It satisfies the hosting agreement with the ECB because we still own the land, we get the building built by our partner and we end up with the best deal for everybody. As far as it being problem free, I can only comment on the relationship we’ve had with Leeds Met for the last 12- months, where they have been fantastic partners and their work with the club in a number of different areas has been sensational. In the sports science area, strength and conditioning, sports psychology, bio-mechanics, nutrition, lifestyle – all things that the club haven’t got resources in and we would have to go out and buy. The players have been able to take advantage of some of the facilities and resources. On the marketing side they have worked with us on PR & Communications, promotional activity, projects and initiatives and it really is breaking the mould of partnerships. We are very happy with where we are with Leeds Met.



There will be legal contracts that will cover user restrictions and the need for development and all kinds of things, but there has been full consultation between the university, the club, the broadcasters, the Cricket Writers Club, the radio, all personnel who will have use of the building. Whilst it’s still subject to planning and contracts, we are feeling that it’s in pretty good shape and we are very confident.



As I understood it, when the Yorkshire Pride Appeal was launched the main objective was to us the proceeds to build the pavilion. Now Leeds Met is involved, is the Appeal money being spent on something else?



Leeds Met are not going to be funding it exclusively, we will be making a capital contribution. The building will also need kitting out and if we are going to have high quality, exclusively Yorkshire areas such as a Yorkshire President’s room, top drawer player’s facilities, a new retail outlet (which will be selling cricket equipment as well as merchandise) – we want to make sure we have the best, so there will still be a need for investment. Any surplus that we develop through the Yorkshire Pride Appeal will then help us pay off outstanding obligations on the ground and then we’ll start looking at developing the Main Stand, which will be the next project on the blocks, and we’re looking to do that after the Ashes. Any money that we get there we will always find a home for.

http://www.leedstoday.net/leeds-rhinos-news?articleid=2731965

Headingley building plans revealed




By Peter Smith
A PROPOSED redevelopment of Headingley Carnegie Stadium's main stand has been put on hold.
But plans to refurbish the rugby ground's famous South Stand could now be brought forward.

The development comes on the day Headingley was being confirmed as the venue for a mid-season Test against France – which marks Leeds Rhinos boss Tony Smith's debut as Great Britain coach.

Leeds Rugby and Yorkshire County Cricket Club had been hoping to jointly rebuild the main stand – which overlooks both pitches – in time for the summer of 2009.

Yorkshire have decided to redevelop the Kirkstall Lane end of the cricket complex instead and Leeds Rugby chief executive Gary Hetherington today confirmed that means work on the main stand will be delayed.

"We had agreed with Yorkshire that the next phase of the development would be the North (main] Stand," said Hetherington.

"That can only be developed by both sides as it has to be developed together.

"Because that's such a huge project and a very costly one, it requires both parties to obtain necessary funding and one can't go ahead without the other.

"Yorkshire have managed to secure funding for what would have been phase three, which is the Kirkstall Lane development, including a new pavilion and media centre.

"Originally the North Stand was going to be the next phase, ideally before the Ashes Test of 2009.

"Yorkshire, with our blessing, are wanting to go ahead immediately with the pavilion and media centre, plans are already fairly advanced and that will become phase two.

"Phase three is now the North Stand and that would be at a later date. The year 2009 was only hypothetical for that and it certainly won't happen before then."

Hetherington revealed Leeds Rugby are now considering bringing an overhaul of the 1930s South Stand forward, but it will remain an all-standing terrace.
"At some stage the South Stand is going to have to be developed and we'd like to do it sooner rather than later," said Hetherington.

"We keep spending a lot of money on it, effectively patching it up.

"It's had a new roof and new barriers, but because it is such an old structure there's always more to be spent on it. We have to keep getting the necessary safety certificates to keep it in place.

"It is all down to affordability, but one of the things that makes it more possible is the fact the Tykes are now back in the Premiership.

"As a Premiership rugby union club, you qualify for a grant – rather than a loan – for stadium development.

"That is a real bonus of being back in the top division."
Hetherington added: "Plans haven't been put in place, so we are talking hypothetically.

"But there has never been any suggestion the South Stand, once it is redeveloped, would be anything other than what it is at present.

"It is the biggest covered standing terrace in the country, with a capacity of 8,000, and it is a big part of the character of the stadium.

"It is what the fans want, we are quite sure about that."
Hetherington said the new Carnegie Stand has proved a huge success.

"Most matches now sell out of seats and we just about sell out the terrace," he said. "It is proving to be very, very popular."

As well as the Test against France, the Co-op National League Grand Finals day will be staged at Headingley in October.

Meanwhile, Rhinos could be unchanged for tomorrow's visit of Les Catalans Dragons.

Coach Tony Smith will select from the 17 on duty in last weekend's win over St Helens, plus Jordan Tansey.

Ali Lauitiiti will again miss out due to a knee problem.

Smith said: "Ali probably could play, but we are erring on the side of caution."

Great news... Would prefer the Main stand done first since it's so delapidated, and not much corporate facilities at Headngley, but obviously Yorkshire have the funding for the pavilion first and can't do 2 stands at once. At least Rhinos aren't just waiting til Yorkshire are ready and are pushing ahead with developing the stadium. I just hope they don't run out of cash to develop the main stand properly.
Will be interesting to see what they come up with for the South Stand, since
a) it's pretty much the only opportunity to increase capacity due to the brand new Carnegie stand, and space restrictions of the other 2 stands.
b) it's where the hard core of loyal fans choose to go so they should be rewarded with a great stand.

a) it's pretty much the only opportunity to increase capacity due to the brand new Carnegie stand, and space restrictions of the other 2 stands.
b) it's where the hard core of loyal fans choose to go so they should be rewarded with a great stand.

This is true!I for one hope that they extend into the car park and hopefully get some sort of statue.

Leeds Rugby gets further backing from Leeds Met Carnegie, who seem to be going Headingley based sports team crazy at the moment, as they have bought 51% of the Leeds Tykes RU and changed the name to Leeds Carnegie RU:
http://leedsrugby.dnsupdate.co.uk/leedstykes/news/news-story.asp?Index=4047
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/english/6653619.stm
Wonder how much the Tykes were sold for, and whether the funds will be reinvested in the stadium...

Leeds Rugby gets further backing from Leeds Met Carnegie, who seem to be going Headingley based sports team crazy at the moment, as they have bought 51% of the Leeds Tykes RU and changed the name to Leeds Carnegie RU:
http://leedsrugby.dnsupdate.co.uk/leedstykes/news/news-story.asp?Index=4047
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/english/6653619.stm
Wonder how much the Tykes were sold for, and whether the funds will be reinvested in the stadium...

Thats interesting. So how come is it that Leeds Met Uni are spending so much on sports teams as opposed to being a university with the partial sponsorships of the Rhinos and YCCC, the sponsorship of the Challenge Cup
and now owning a Rugby Union club. It seems rather unusual for an academic institution to seemingly have a major role in running sports teams as opposed to being just a university or am I missing something here?

Is this all coming from my tuition fees and what chance is there that Leeds Met University will perhaps expand into association football in the future perhaps taking on one of the non league teams around Leeds such as Farsley Celtic (who could possibly go up into the Football Conference tonight if they beat Hinckley United), Garforth Town or Guiseley AFC or maybe perhaps even partially sponsor LUFC?

I agree it does seem unusual - though I think it is all aimed at becoming the number one uni for sports - taking Loughborough's crown in effect. Leeds Met is really becoming synonymous with sports these days, and thanks to the Carnegie stand, and Pavilion stand, the uni can offer lecture theatres within a world famous stadium - not many can boast that. Though I would have to question what it is costing them - especially if I were a student not studying sport. Also I think along with all this sponsorship they need to improve their own sports facilities, starting with a 50m pool, if they are to challenge Loughborough.

I agree it does seem unusual - though I think it is all aimed at becoming the number one uni for sports - taking Loughborough's crown in effect. Leeds Met is really becoming synonymous with sports these days, and thanks to the Carnegie stand, and Pavilion stand, the uni can offer lecture theatres within a world famous stadium - not many can boast that. Though I would have to question what it is costing them - especially if I were a student not studying sport. Also I think along with all this sponsorship they need to improve their own sports facilities, starting with a 50m pool, if they are to challenge Loughborough.


Wonder when Leeds Met Uni will change its name to Leeds Carnegie Uni. Surely its only a matter of time?

Wonder when Leeds Met Uni will change its name to Leeds Carnegie Uni. Surely its only a matter of time?

True.
And the its for the big one:
BBCC
British Brordcasting Carnegie Company :)

As I was wondering what this Carnegie stuff actually meant I have found the answer from the BBC Website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6665355.stm

How do you get to Carnegie Hall?



By Brendan O'Neill



Up the M1, junction 45, turn left - at least that's if you're after the hall at the Carnegie Faculty of Sport and Education at Leeds Metropolitan University. Why is this name on everything from music venues to sports teams?
The UK is going Carnegie crazy. Everywhere you look, there seems to be a sports team or educational institution adopting the Carnegie brand.

The Carnegie trend is especially big in Yorkshire. This week the rugby union team Leeds Tykes has renamed itself Leeds Carnegie. This is because Leeds Metropolitan University has taken a controlling 51% stake in the team, and its sports wing is called the Carnegie Faculty of Sport and Education (previously the Carnegie Physical Training College, set up in 1933 by the Carnegie Trust).


Everything from rowdy sports events...
Also this week, draws were made for the quarter-finals of rugby league's Carnegie Challenge Cup - formerly known as the Challenge Cup, and later as the Powergen Challenge Cup following a jolt of sponsorship from the electricity company. But since the start of this year, when Leeds Met became the Cup's primary partner, it has been rebranded.

And last year Headingley Stadium in Leeds - home to the Yorkshire County Cricket Club, Leeds Rhinos RLFC and the Leeds Tykes (sorry, Leeds Carnegie) - was renamed the Headingley Carnegie Stadium. A new Carnegie Stand was unveiled in the stadium last September.

Leeds Met also sponsors premiere league football in Northern Ireland, which is now known as the Carnegie Premier League.

Outside of the world of sport, in July we will hear who has won this year's Carnegie Medal of Literature, the UK's oldest award for children's book, which has been awarded annually since 1936.


... to hushed libraries bear the name
Last month, to mark the medal's 70th anniversary, the Carnegie of Carnegies - a list of the 10 best winners from the past seven decades - was unveiled, featuring the likes of Philip Pullman's Northern Lights and Mary Norton's The Borrowers.

There is also a Carnegie Medal of Philanthropy, most recently awarded in a ceremony in the Scottish Parliament at the end of 2005. Recipients include the likes of Bill Gates and the Rockefeller family.

The Carnegie brand is widespread. Stateside there are numerous Carnegie public libraries, the Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh, and Carnegie Hall in New York - one of the most famous music venues in the world. Built in 1890, it has hosted world premiers of some of the past century's best-known classical music, as well as gigs by Liza Minnelli, Frank Sinatra and others.

Giving industrialist

So where does the Carnegie tag come from, and why is it popping up everywhere from rowdy sports stadiums to the hushed halls of public libraries?


Andrew Carnegie, who set up the trusts dolling out the funds
"All of these things started life thanks to the generosity of Andrew Carnegie," says Charlie McConnell, the chief executive of the Carnegie UK Trust.

He was a hugely successful capitalist turned incredibly giving philanthropist, and perhaps the archetypal "boy done good". He was born in Dunfermline in Scotland in 1835, the son of a handloom weaver and an active Chartist.

The Carnegie family emigrated to the United States in 1848 where Andrew went on to make his fortune. He founded the Carnegie Steel Company, which was to become one of the most powerful and influential corporations in US history; today it is known as US Steel. Carnegie was the Bill Gates of his day, at one point earning the title of "the richest man in the world".

However, he has become best known not for making money, but for giving it away.

To die rich is to die disgraced

Andrew Carnegie
From the 1880s onwards, Carnegie devoted himself to philanthropy. It's estimated that by the time of his death in 1919, he had given away $350,695,653 of his fortune, or $4.3bn in today's money. Upon his death, he gave his remaining $30m to various charities and to pensioners.

"Carnegie had a dictum, which was 'to die rich is to die disgraced'," says Mr McConnell. The UK trust was set up by Carnegie in 1913, one of 23 foundations on both sides of the Atlantic to campaign for a more just, democratic and peaceful world.

The trust set up the Carnegie Physical Training College in Leeds in 1933, which was subsequently co-opted by Leeds Met and which is now helping to spread the Carnegie brand.

"Carnegie was a radical liberal. Because of where he came from, he had a real interest in improving opportunities for working class people. He was dedicated to social change and to educational opportunities," says Mr McConnell.

Books for all

The Carnegie name may be writ large in sport in the north of England and Northern Ireland, but there are other aspects of everyday life we take for granted which also sprung from his philanthropy.


Rufus Wainwright recreating Judy Garland's Carnegie Hall concert
He was at the forefront of setting up free public libraries. Between 1881 and 1917, Carnegie built a remarkable 1,681 libraries in the US, 125 in Canada, 660 in the UK and Ireland, 17 in New Zealand, 12 in South Africa, five in the West Indies, four in Australia and Tasmania, and one each on the Seychelles, Mauritius and Fiji. In total, he built 2,507 public libraries in that 40-year period, costing more than $56m. Many libraries, especially in the US and Carnegie's native Scotland, still bear his name - the Carnegie Free Library.

Mr McConnell says that Carnegie was also passionate about social welfare and world peace - a side of his work continued by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

"Before and during World War II, the Carnegie UK Trust commissioned reports and inquiries into ways that the state could help people, and these underpinned the arguments for a welfare state. The trust also made the case for having national parks."

From free libraries to welfare to the flourishing of protected countryside, it seems there is far more to Carnegie's legacy than rugby teams and stadium stands.

And we can expect to hear his name even more in the future. Mr McConnell says that the various heads of Carnegie foundations met in 2001 to discuss how they could remind people of Carnegie's legacy.

The spread of his name looks set to continue almost a century after he died.




Well it certainly is interesting how money from over a century ago from a Scottish American business man is still used a lot but how is there still money seemingly being used for stuff such as sports teams and book prizes. Presumably his funds have been used in very strong investments. Also do they control Leeds Met Uni or a part of it and could it be renamed as Leeds Carnegie University as Skychaser has mentioned? I guess it could be a distinct possibility but how come has it apparently being only in the last five years that this name has expanded in use to what I think was just a summer sports activity day at Becketts Park campus called Carnegie and named after LMU's sports department (which I didn't go to but remember recieving a letter about it whilst at primary school) to sponsoring an increasing chunk of sport in Leeds.

The latest economy bulletin says this new stand is delayed due to design delays - anyone find anything else?

From Building Design magazine:


Delays mean Alsop pavilion at Headingley misses Ashes

18 January 2008

By Heidi Ancell

A proposed £17 million cricket pavilion designed by Will Alsop for Headingley Carnegie cricket stadium in Leeds will not be ready for next year’s Ashes series following a series of delays and design changes.

Yorkshire County Cricket Club had hoped the 4,000sq m pavilion, to include a state-of-the-art media centre and lecture facilities for Leeds Metropolitan University, would be ready for Australia’s 2009 visit, but the ambitious project has not yet been entered for planning.

The scheme, already more than two years in the making, was originally won by SMC Gower before being passed to SMC Hamilton and then to SMC Alsop amid the group’s financial difficulties.

Sources close to the project also claimed it had been delayed because SMC Gower had not fully addressed the educational aspects of the development.

Stewart Regan, chief executive of Yorkshire CCC, said “getting the design right” was more important than delivering the pavilion in time for the Ashes, and that the appointment of a “highly regarded international architect” would ensure that this was achieved.

“We do not want to put this in for planning until we are absolutely convinced that everybody involved is happy with the solution,” he said.

“We have had to overcome all sorts of problems involving a limited budget and a reduced footprint, so it is exceedingly unlikely to be open ready for the Ashes, but it will be an iconic building.”

SMC Alsop, which took on the pavilion last autumn, insisted the project would remain a “distinctive, world-class facility” despite the plan having been scaled back by a third since original designs were mooted in 2006.

Shaun Russell, project director at SMC Alsop, said: “This is a complex project that has to be considerate to neighbouring residential properties. It is also the first time anybody has attempted to combine cricket facilities with a university building. “When we took over, the footprint had been reduced but we have made clever use of the idea of dual functionality. This will end up being a distinctively Alsop building.”

The architect expected designs to be submitted for planning this spring once issues related to the overshadowing of neighbouring homes has been resolved.

SMC Gower declined to comment.

As an interested party. What does teh design look like? have pctures been released? Compared to trafford and trent bridge headingley is a dump and it needs this improvement drastically.

As an interested party. What does teh design look like? have pctures been released? Compared to trafford and trent bridge headingley is a dump and it needs this improvement drastically.

http://www.yorkshireccc.com/news/pavilionscheme

Its a bit like the sweeping stand that was completed at the Oval recently - but more organic looking I guess
http://*************************/london/jpgs/brit_oval_london_miller.jpg

Anyone know what this is for? (planning app wk ending 3rd Jan 08):

07/07845/FU/NW Leeds Cricket Football
and Athletics Co Ltd
Second floor side extension to sports
pavilion
Grid Ref: 427685435707
The Pavilion
Headingley Stadium
St Michaels Lane
Headingley
Leeds
LS6 3BU
J B Langley Associates
Ltd - K Rayne
Unit 5
Peel House
Taunton Street
Shipley
Bradford
BD18 3NA
RW
Headingley
19/12/07

Anyone know what this is for? (planning app wk ending 3rd Jan 08):

07/07845/FU/NW Leeds Cricket Football
and Athletics Co Ltd
Second floor side extension to sports
pavilion
Grid Ref: 427685435707
The Pavilion
Headingley Stadium
St Michaels Lane
Headingley
Leeds
LS6 3BU
J B Langley Associates
Ltd - K Rayne
Unit 5
Peel House
Taunton Street
Shipley
Bradford
BD18 3NA
RW
Headingley
19/12/07

Im not sure what that will be i haven't heard any thing of it. Ill ask tommorow though when i go to work.

^^ that just looks like a minor lowrise extension, but you never know.

I hope that the replacement for the Wintershed isn't dumbed down too much from the original fantastic designs. The delays seems rather irksome, but I'd rather they tried to get it right first time. Does beg the question re: optimum capacity during the Ashes and whether it makes sense to start it off after 2009 after all.

in response to greenestcity1, I'd argue that Headingley certainly isn't a dump. The new Western Terrace is much improved on the shack that stood there before, and the newish East Stand and hotel is a great facility. It is a bit of a mismash of stands though, with not much continuity.

I like the look of the whole facility. It will certainly bring it up to date with the other test grounds in the country. Headingley at the moment though is still work in progress and the sooner they get the north side sorted the beter.

So is there any indication of when this will be completed and those renders do look rather good and at least they are not as ott as some previous Alsop designs and it should further improve Headingley as a stadium. Is there any news regarding any future improvements to the rugby stadium?

As for the next Ashes series is Headingley one of the venues as it surely should be?

So is there any indication of when this will be completed and those renders do look rather good and at least they are not as ott as some previous Alsop designs and it should further improve Headingley as a stadium. Is there any news regarding any future improvements to the rugby stadium?

As for the next Ashes series is Headingley one of the venues as it surely should be?

Yes, Headingley is one of the ashes venues, as the headline suggests.

Shame it will be a building site at the time.

So is there any indication of when this will be completed and those renders do look rather good and at least they are not as ott as some previous Alsop designs and it should further improve Headingley as a stadium. Is there any news regarding any future improvements to the rugby stadium?

As for the next Ashes series is Headingley one of the venues as it surely should be?

The rugby North stand cant commence until the cricket decide to do the south side. I heard 09/10 last year.

Roll on the Melbourne Storm to kick some ass!

i got my tickets for that. Rhinossssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!

South Stand plans should be out soon!:banana:

The East Stand Upper at Elland Rd is open for the Leeds Melbourne game. We could be looking at a 40,000 full house

It would have been such a shame for Leeds RL and rugby league in general if this prestigious game were played in a half closed stadium. Thank God it's been sorted and Ken Bates' poison hasn't ruined Leeds' big day

News today on the BBC website of yet another Carnegie name change, this time relating to the change in name of Yorkshire County Cricket Club's one day team which was called the rather random Yorkshire Phoenix is now known as Yorkshire Carnegie (and surely pretty much everyone refers to the one day cricket team the same eg: Yorkshire, Lancashire etc as opposed to whatever American style suffix they could put together).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/counties/yorkshire/7262874.stm

One-day name change for Yorkshire

Yorkshire have announced they will be known as Yorkshire Carnegie in one-day cricket this season.
The name change from Yorkshire Phoenix follows a "significant investment" from Leeds Metropolitan University.

The county will play under the name for the first time against Lancashire in Abu Dhabi on 21 March.

"We believe we are the first club in county cricket to move into such a ground-breaking innovative deal," said chief executive Stewart Regan.

The university will continue to invest in the county and Regan revealed that the name change had met with little opposition.

"It was not a hard decision for the board to make when we decided to get rid of the Phoenix name and move into the Yorkshire Carnegie naming deal," Regan told BBC Radio Leeds.

"Its a six-figure investment on a five-year deal. The University has invested a lot of money with the club in the naming rights of the stadium and are due to invest somewhere in the region of £17m to help us with the development of our new pavilion."

The county will wear new black and gold kits in all one-day competitions.

News today on the BBC website of yet another Carnegie name change, this time relating to the change in name of Yorkshire County Cricket Club's one day team which was called the rather random Yorkshire Phoenix is now known as Yorkshire Carnegie (and surely pretty much everyone refers to the one day cricket team the same eg: Yorkshire, Lancashire etc as opposed to whatever American style suffix they could put together).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/counties/yorkshire/7262874.stm

Carnegie... taking over the sporting world one team at a time :lol:

The East Stand Upper at Elland Rd is open for the Leeds Melbourne game. We could be looking at a 40,000 full house

It would have been such a shame for Leeds RL and rugby league in general if this prestigious game were played in a half closed stadium. Thank God it's been sorted and Ken Bates' poison hasn't ruined Leeds' big day

My tickets are for the upper tier. Im in row H on the 40 meter line. Will this be a decent view or will it be a long way up? I have never sat in the upper tier before.

It will be high up but will be a very good view.

It's a bit of a Sensible Soccer view (only from the side) but a very good view

Can be a bit parky up there mind you, and it's ever so steep, the bloke in front of you will have his head at your feet.

My tickets are for the upper tier. Im in row H on the 40 meter line. Will this be a decent view or will it be a long way up? I have never sat in the upper tier before.

Take several layers of clothing, some oxygen and enough food to sustain you during the hours it takes to get back down when it's a full house!

From today's YEP:


Early signs positive for new pavilion


http://editorial.jpress.co.uk/web/images/3849511//TH1_E4-0603-56-0603-081041.jpg


By Leon Wobschall


RESIDENTS have had their first glimpse of the planned £20m pavilion at Headingley Carnegie – and the feedback has been highly positive, according to Stewart Regan. A scale model of the space-ace design – a crystalline structure topped with a green, undulating roof – were revealed to local residents in an exhibition yesterday.

The club were seeking feedback ahead of submitting a formal planning application to Leeds City Council with the pavilion to feature new dressing rooms, hospitality suites and a media suite along with a teaching facility for Leeds Met University.

Chief executive Regan said: "One or two expressed concerns, but the general reaction was very positive.

"The pavilion will help secure Headingley's future as an international ground and our next step is to submit our proposals to the Yorkshire members at our annual meeting on March 15.

"Our ambition was for a pavilion that is striking and which will be recognised the world over. We hope people will approve of the new design."

The Tykes hope to pull down the current wintershed, at the Kirkstall Lane end, before the July Test with South Africa and are envisaging work starting on the new project at the end of the season.

"OK you've won 6 crystals; that's 30 seconds inside the dome to collect as many gold tickets as you can..."

Hugely disappointed by this new version compared to the orginal plans, which included a huge swooping roof, and looked about twice as big as this new version, which will date very quickly in my opinion...

^^ LOL!

What will the new capacity be? And whats the long term desired new capacity?

"OK you've won 6 crystals; that's 30 seconds inside the dome to collect as many gold tickets as you can..."

http://www.ukgameshows.com/atoz/programmes/c/crystal_maze/richard%20obrien.gif

What about placing the Brick Man next to the new pavillion as a giant sculpture of Richard o Brien to complement the new Pavillion. :banana:

Anyway it should surely look excellent imo and will act the same way as a landmark for Headingley that Norman Foster Media Centre is for Lord's cricket ground.

Anyway it should surely look excellent imo and will act the same way as a landmark for Headingley that Norman Foster Media Centre is for Lord's cricket ground.

The Lords Media Centre was designed by Future Systems not Foster.

Quite difficult to judge anything from that render, looking forward to seeing a larger one.

The Lords Media Centre was designed by Future Systems not Foster.

Quite difficult to judge anything from that render, looking forward to seeing a larger one.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nat_West_media_centre_cropped.jpg/800px-Nat_West_media_centre_cropped.jpg

Doh!! :bash: Thanks for letting me know hope im don't use Norman Foster again as a genericisation for high tech architecutre. Of course it is Future Systems of Selfridges Birmingham fame and not Norman Foster.

Anyway daft question but considering it is designed by "Will Alsop" Architects does it mean that Will Alsop himself has designed this new Pavillion? Surely it must be notable having his first commissioned building in Leeds (other than the remodelling of the Corn Exchange in the 1980s (and when did they remove that Wright Brothers plane and palm trees from the Corn Ex out of interest))? Anyway here is how that end of Headingley stadium looks at present compared wih the render:

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7118/headingleystadiumbz9.jpg
http://editorial.jpress.co.uk/web/images/3849511//TH1_E4-0603-56-0603-081041.jpg

overwhelming support for the concept, from me

the shape is supperb and a huge improvement on whats there at the moment!

tho concern as ever for the type of panels to be used....will they be transparent or opaque, if opaque what colour and shade and how will they weather?

following the back lash against terracotta tiles i hope that leeds council are not allowing any old crap through only the best quality materials please x

Hello to all from a first-time poster. I have been lurking for a while on the site as it seems a great place to get to know what's happening in my home city. Thanks to all and in particular those who regularly post photos and images.

Re Headingley, there are some more pictures of the model of the proposal on the Yorkshire CCC website (hope the link works for a first-timer!).

new pavilion (http://www.yorkshireccc.com/grounds/the_carnegie_pavilion_development/the_proposed_development/index.html)

My own feelings are of deflation because I really loved the original proposal with the bat-wing roof which swept over parts of the two utilitarian stands on either side and gave them some architectural interest. This just seems to sit there as a rather ugly lump (from the front it looks like a radio/alarm clock with a nasty tumour) and does nothing to enhance the dull stands on either side. Maybe some artist's drawings might show the thing in a better light . There is still not much detail of how the front will look and whether there'll be much of it for anyone but the media and the corporate troughers in their private boxes.

Agreed Mr. Hardacre.
Now, can you tell me what you've done with Keir Hardie's cap?

Hmmm... not sure about that. Especially on the view from the front of it. Seems a bit flat for me.

Anyway i heard from the Bar Staff Manager at Headingley on Saturday that they had been told to move all thier stuff out from that side and that it was due to start in about 5 weeks so they can finnish it in time for the Ashes

Agreed Mr. Hardacre.
Now, can you tell me what you've done with Keir Hardie's cap?

I think it was last seen flying over the crutch factory after a nasty accident testing the SBD!

I think it was last seen flying over the crutch factory after a nasty accident testing the SBD!

You've a good memory for plot points.
Or a copy of the DVD.:)

I went to have a look at the back of the wintershed stand when i was at work last night and there was a "ground investigator" lorry and apparatus that have been performing some sort of test piles, there was also aload of fencing piled up in the corner, its looking like its going to be getting underway quite soon. Shame it isn't the first design though i think the new one looks like a square boulder with green moss on it.

the wintershed is a dump and needs replacing asap. Am sure most people agreed on that. Welcome Mr Hardacre, and totally agree that the dropping of the batwing proposal is a shame. Undecided on aesthetic of new scheme, doesn't give me a warm feeling just yet, but could grow on me. Sort of like an alien cocoon. Certainly eyecatching.

Piece on Look North that Yorkshire have applied for planning permission for the pavilion?

Vid of revent AGM discussion of pavilion http://www.yorkshireccc.com/wrtv/media/581495718/index.html

The current management team at YCCC have done a terrific job in dragging the club into the 21st century after years of amateurish bungling and factional in-fighting. That re-designed website and the persuasion of the BBC to offer live commentary on Yorkshire games this season are just two very recent examples of improvements. It looks like they have great faith that the model that provides the images seen so far doesn't do the building justice and that it will be a great asset to the club. I hope they are right and it seems this one will be pushed through quickly now.

Much as I was disappointed with the images so far, it will at least be unique and recognisable as Headingley, unlike the earlier rather bland developments. Other grounds, both established Test venues and ones with that ambition, are also being re-developed and the new pavilion, together with a replacement for the archaic football stand, really need to be completed in the next few years.

I don't know how to add pictures so I here's a link to the YCCC website with pictures of the model.

http://www.yorkshireccc.com/grounds/the_carnegie_pavilion_development/the_proposed_development/index.html

I quite like it, though it does look quite small, but I guess they are struggling for space around there with the road being so close. I hope the third phase is to be as adventurous though due to the complexity of it being a back-to-back stand it probably wont be anything special.

Here's some of the images:

http://www.yorkshireccc.com/cms_media/images/img_5416.jpeg

http://www.yorkshireccc.com/cms_media/images/img_5414.jpeg

http://www.yorkshireccc.com/cms_media/images/img_5420.jpeg

Courtesy of Yorkshire County Cricket Club

Very Nice. What sort of material will this cladding have (is it copper?) at least the main thing it is a unique structure which will scream Headingley as opposed to any generic cricket ground.

So considering the next phase after the development of this new pavillion is to replace the combined cricket / rugby stand has there been any renders of that and what sort of capacity will be created or is it too early for that yet?

The club say that they are looking to increase the capacity of the cricket ground by some 4,000 when the football stand is redeveloped, bringing the capacity up to about 22,000. There are some cross-section images of a new back-to-stand earlier in the thread but I'm assuming that design will be superceded.

On a different topic, there are rumours that an English version of the Indian Premier League for Twenty20 cricket will be created with city franchises rather than counties and that Leeds will have one of the franchises.

nice model - good photos, gives a good perspective. Could be a cracker.

The club say that they are looking to increase the capacity of the cricket ground by some 4,000 when the football stand is redeveloped, bringing the capacity up to about 22,000. There are some cross-section images of a new back-to-stand earlier in the thread but I'm assuming that design will be superceded.

On a different topic, there are rumours that an English version of the Indian Premier League for Twenty20 cricket will be created with city franchises rather than counties and that Leeds will have one of the franchises.

Thanks for letting me know. As for an English version of the IPL it would be a big shame to lose the traditional county names which would be a major stumbling block to starting such a thing and it seems rather American to have franchises as opposed to clubs with a sense of history. On the flip side I guess it could give the opportunity for places without a major cricket team in its locality such as Liverpool or Sheffield a team perhaps?

This was on the BBC site recently.

Headingley gets £600,000 facelift

Yorkshire will get a completely new outfield at Headingley thanks to a £600,000 grant from the England and Wales Cricket Board.

New drainage and irrigation systems are to be introduced and it is hoped they will reduce the amount of game-time lost to poor weather.

Yorkshire's final home Championship fixture, against Somerset on 17 September, will have to be moved.

One possible venue for the match is Scarborough's North Marine Road.



Although this won't affect the architecture of the ground, it should improve things for spectators in terms of lost time to rain delays. These "state of the art" drainage systems really do seem to shorten delays at grounds where they are used (I think Lord's has one). At a time when competition for international fixtures is intense - Old Trafford doesn't have a Test for the next four years - all these improvements will help Headingley's case.

From today's BusinessDesk.com:


Headingley pavilion gets funding boost

30th May 2008

By Ian Briggs - Deputy Editor


REGIONAL development agency Yorkshire Forward is to contribute up to £4m to the re-development of Headingley Carnegie Cricket Ground.

The £20m Carnegie Pavilion project is being led by Yorkshire County Cricket Club in partnership with Leeds Metropolitan University.

Design delays have meant that the state-of-the-art building, which includes a media centre and lecture facilities, will not be unveiled in time for next year's Ashes series.

But Yorkshire club officials now hope the scheme will be completed in 2010 after a planning application for the project was submitted to Leeds City Council planners earlier this month.

Yorkshire Forward is to pledge the cash as part of its commitment to help to raise the profile and investment potential of the region through the attraction of major sporting and cultural events.

The 43,000 sq ft pavilion, which will also house modern hospitality facilities, has been designed by renowned architect Will Alsop, who is behind masterplans for the regeneration of Bradford and Barnsley.

The plans for the five floor structure have passed the the England & Wales Cricket Board’s requirements for test matches.

During the summer, the building will operate mainly as a cricket pavilion and media centre, whilst during the academic year, the proposed development will operate mainly as a university teaching faculty providing media, sporting, hospitality and event management facilities.

The teaching centre will host Leeds Metropolitan University's School of Tourism, Hospitality and Events, further reinforcing the region’s commitment to developing its reputation in this field.

Neil Jenkinson, head of major and cultural events at Yorkshire Forward, said: “Headingley Carnegie Cricket Ground is already a massive cultural asset and icon for our region. When the Indian International Film Awards came to Yorkshire last year the one image people already had in their heads was cricket at Headingley Carnegie.

“Developing and improving the stadium will allow the region to attract more international fixtures, bringing more visitors to the area and cementing our profile on the world stage as a great place to visit, host events and do business.”

Stewart Regan, Yorkshire County Cricket Club’s chief executive, said: “We are extremely grateful to Yorkshire Forward for their support with this project.

"If planning permission is granted we hope to start work on the new building at the end of the current cricket season.

"Once completed, we believe that the Carnegie Pavilion will become the most viewed building in Yorkshire as it will be seen regularly by a TV audience around the world of some 500 million viewers. This has to be good news, not just for the club but for the Yorkshire and Humber region as a whole.”

Stephen Willis, director of finance and resources at Leeds Metropolitan University, said: “This is an excellent and innovative development that will help guarantee that international, world-class cricket, and other events, be held in Yorkshire and see the much needed continuation of the enhancement of one of Yorkshire’s truly internationally renowned sites.”

The project is currently awaiting planning permission with work hoped to be completed by 2010.

The pavilion will also include upgraded player facilities such as changing rooms and treatment rooms, replacement spectator seating, new executive boxes and associated facilities.

It's nice to see city councillors being so supportive (from today's YEP):


Artists hope pavilion will bowl fans over

By DAVID MARSH


ARCHITECTS have unveiled plans for a cricket pavilion that promises to be a dramatic new landmark at the world-famous Headingley stadium.

A rainscreen cladding made of triangular perforated metal panels and triangular windows would be among the eye-catching design features of the new five-storey building, which Leeds Metropolitan University and Yorkshire County Cricket Club want to build at the Kirkstall Lane end of the ground.
The panels would change in shade and tone depending on the light.
The existing winter shed stand and media centre will be demolished to make way for the new pavilion which will include a media centre, changing and officials' rooms, spectator seating, hospitality facilities, offices, lecture theatres and teaching spaces for the university's School of Tourism, Hospitality and Events.

As part of the innovative design, a dual-use lecture theatre will be available for spectators on match days. External walling material will be mechanically raised to reveal seating behind a large glazed panel.

The raised walling will provide a canopy above the glass.

The scheme is seen as vital to help ensure Headingley retains its status as a test match venue.

A report to the council's west plans panel said: "The implications for the cricket club of not securing a modern media facility could be the loss of test match cricket at Headingley."

It added that such a loss would be a blow to the city's efforts to increase its international profile. It also acknowledged that the pavilion would have an impact on the surrounding neighbourhood.

The building would accommodate up to 850 people during university term time and a maximum of 1,000 people during a major cricket fixture. It is still a "work in progress" and design negotiations between the architects, SMC Alsop, and the council are continuing but councillors were largely encouraging when they received a presentation on the latest ideas. Coun Neil Taggart (Lab, Bramley) said: "It is different and will be shocking for some people but it is about making a statement and doing something new and fresh.

"Selfridges store in Birmingham and The Sage at Newcastle shocked some people but they are effective."

Coun Stuart Andrew (Con, Guiseley and Rawdon) said: "Other stadia have been successful in having something different that stands out. The ground is world renowned and this would be world recognised."

Coun Jamie Matthews (Lib Dem, Headingley) said it was important the the facilities at Headingley were improved but he added that he had some issues with the "dramatic and therefore controversial" design. He said it was important residents were fully consulted.

A decision on the application could be made later this summer.

The metal panels that change shade must be the same panels that are on K2.

I was on the Kirkstall Lane stand for the 20-20 cricket yesterday when it pissed it down - it'd be nice to have a bit of shelter from the unpredictable british summer!

Headingley's 21st-century blueprint haunted by past - The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/cricket/headingleys-21stcentury-blueprint-haunted-by-past-870643.html)

To walk into Headingley for a major match is to be enveloped by an overwhelming sense of gloom

Over the decades, as other stadiums have been transformed, it has remained at best functional, at worst dilapidated. It is ugly and austere, a monument to the humdrum. If Headingley were a child, it would be the sort of child only a mother could love

Headingley has stood alone in terms of the boorish, sometimes disturbing behaviour of its crowds, as if to demonstrate that people are indeed shaped by their surroundings

Yorkshire's previous idea of good design was to bring in a concrete mixer and load of bucket seats. Hence the Western Terrace is merely a bigger, slightly more comfortable version of its old self

Hundreds of millions of viewers round the world watching the Ashes Test will see not an iconic building, the Sydney Opera House of the West Riding, but a building site. It could only happen at Headingley.

I don't know if any of these images of the new pavilion have been published on here...................


http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/images/AlsopHeadingleyBIG6_tcm23-1226635.jpg


http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/images/AlsopHeadingleyBIG5_tcm23-1226631.jpg


http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/images/AlsopHeadingleyBIG4_tcm23-1226627.jpg


http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/images/AlsopHeadingleyBIG3_tcm23-1226626.jpg


http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/images/AlsopHeadingleyBIG2_tcm23-1226625.jpg


http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/images/AlsopHeadingleyBIG1_tcm23-1226622.jpg

Looks a lot better in those pics - certainly recognisable!

According YCCC, there's a delay to planning decision, tho it looks like the club and Leeds Met are the ones who have asked for the delay ..

http://www.yorkshireccc.com/archive/carnegie_pavilion_delay_to_planning_decision/index.html

Tenders in on 12th Aug: http://www.cnplus.co.uk/News/2008/08/tenders_back_for_sporting_and_media_centre.html

They are saying on the radio (BBC online commentary) that planning consent for the new pavilion was granted today. I believe they are planning to start work in October but no doubt there'll be further info in the press soon.

It will be nice to get a new project started in Leeds as nothing much seems to have got underway in 2008. Although not a large building, this will be a distinctive Leeds building seen around the world.

I really like the design of this and I think that it's good that it has split opinion because at least it means it should be distinctive and will give the ground a lot of character!

Does anyone know if there are any firm plans to do the football stand end?

Confirmation (& render) here: http://www.yorkshireccc.com/archive/new_carnegie_pavilion_proposal_to_secure/index.html
5 floors tall, surpassing Test match criteria
Work starting November and completion 2010
Press conference date announced on Monday

As for the Main Stand, this has been delayed until after the completion of the Pavilion - since it is jointly owned, and the Cricket Club couldn't rebuild 2 stands at once...

Still seems on track - the Rhinos are having a sale this weekend to clear stock previously stored under the Pavilion 'due to construction work due to commence'.

Rumours on Southstander.com that Gary Hetherington was meeting the council to discuss redevelopment of the South Stand of the rugby side.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/leeds/7654495.stm
Mentions renovation rather than redevelopment...

I don't know how bad the problems are that caused the closure of part of the South Stand terracing. I thought the plans had been that the next step was to to jointly (with YCCC) redevelop the back-to-back stand in the next few years. This should be a priority to bring the cricket ground, in particular, up to the standards expected these days from international venues.

It would be a shame if these plans were torpedoed by an unplanned need for the rugby people to replace the South Stand in it's entirety. It would also be a shame to lose the atmosphere generated there if any new design was all-seater or had only a small terraced section.

That WAS the original plan, and I would agree the Main Stand does desperately need replacing the most.

However when Carnegie offered to effectively build the Pavilion for the Cricket Club for free, they could hardly refuse. This then meant they were no longer focussing on replacing the main stand.

Confirmation that the South Stand IS likely to be redeveloped:

South Stand future in focus


Headingley Carnegie's South Stand

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By Peter Smith
The days of Headingley Carnegie Stadium's famous South Stand appear to be numbered.

Leeds Rugby chief executive Gary Hetherington today confirmed the club are looking to replace the massive structure, which is currently partially closed because of safety concerns.

Hetherington insisted any new stand is likely to include at least some standing accommodation though a two-tier building, similar to the new Carnegie Stand, is also a possibility.

The front half of the South Stand was closed for Leeds Rhinos' engage Super League final eliminator against Wigan Warriors two weeks ago, after safety checks revealed concerns over the state of some of the terracing.

Load testing is now being carried out and Hetherington said: "That will determine what needs to be done.

"Our expectation is that some work will need to be done and we would like to start that as soon as possible and have the work completed before Christmas."

But Hetherington admitted the viability of the South Stand is now in doubt.

He said: "We are awaiting the results of the testing, but what it has also done is focus our attention on long-term plans for the South Stand.

"It has always been our vision to replace the South Stand, which is now an aging facility, nearly 70 years old.

"What the Carnegie Stand has done, with its range of amenities and with how popular that has proved to be, is reinforce to us and our fans that we need to significantly improve the quality of our facilities.

"It is not just the terracing, it is all the spectator comforts and amenities: toilets, the health and safety aspect, the ability to be able to provide food and so in a comfortable, friendly environment – the whole range.

"The Carnegie Stand provides all that and it's what spectators want and expect in the modern age."

The Carnegie Stand, opened in 2006 and funded by Leeds Metropolitan University, includes an upper deck of seating, with terracing at ground level.

It also boasts a cafe, restaurant and classrooms, which are used by Leeds Met students during the week.

Plans to alter the character of the South Stand would cause an outcry among fans and Hetherington insisted that is not the intention.

"We fully appreciate the uniqueness of the South Stand and what a terrific atmosphere is created by all those who go in there," he said. "We don't want to diminish that in any way.

"It is currently, we understand, the largest covered terrace in the world and clearly we need to retain that, but we also need to try and find some way of improving it and providing a range of amenities and facilities that are better than they are now.

"We are always keen to hear our fans' views, particularly those who use the South Stand, but I would expect that in any survey we did the fans would wish to retain it as a standing terrace.

"There could be the option, for example, of doing something similar to the Carnegie Stand, which provides terracing and seats.

"The third option would be all-seating, but I would expect our fans would want to retain the terrace."

Hetherington said the club don't have a time scale for when work could begin on a new stand and plans have not yet been drawn up, but he confirmed they are now looking at ways of funding the work.



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http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leeds-rhinos-news/South-Stand-future-in-focus.4579162.jp

It's been a long time since I was into Rugby, but I do hope the SS is replaced with another covered terrace, rather than a two-tiered thing with seats on top

Liverpool FC's reverence for their Kop should be the inspiration

A modern cantilever-roofed terrace, perhaps designed with acoustics and atmosphere in mind, could increase capacity and act as a symbol of Rugby League's working-class heritage, a nod to the no-nonsense South Stand denizens of years past, if you will

I too think it should be kept as a covered cantilever terrace - though I wouldn't object to a second tier of seating like the Carnegie stand, as long as this seating was all extra capacity.

I think it is vital they use this opportunity to expand capacity - there isn't much scope to increase capacity in the North or West stands, so this is the last real chance to boost numbers. 25,000 would be sensible for the World's best supported rugby club...

Article I noticed on the BBC website today that Pakistan could host a home test match in Headingley and other test venues across England in 2010 and 2011 due to the security situation in Pakistan resulting in cricket tours to the country being cancelled. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/counties/yorkshire/7685975.stm

Headingley may host Pakistan Test

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Headingley could play host to Pakistan in two years' time
Yorkshire could host a Pakistan 'home' Test at Headingley if a deal can be agreed with the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB).

Due to the security situation in the country, Pakistan and the ECB have discussed playing a series of matches in England in 2010 and 2011.

Yorkshire chief executive Stewart Regan told the Yorkshire Post: "We have already made our points to the ECB.

"We would be more than happy to stage a Pakistan 'home' Test."

Pakistan have struggled to find opponents this year due to the difficult security situation in the country, with a tour by Australia and the Champions Trophy both postponed.

This week new Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Ijaz Butt revealed they had discussed with the ECB the possibility of playing three 'home' Tests and five one-dayers, as well as Twenty20 matches, in England in 2010 and 2011.

The credit crunch brings new challenges with it and it's not challenges that are within the control of Yorkshire County Cricket Club

Yorkshire chief executive Stewart Regan
Yorkshire chief executive Regan added: "We believe it would be popular and well received in light of our location and our access to the highly-populated Asian areas in and around Bradford.

"Nothing will happen in the short term, but we will wait to see what transpires."

Yorkshire's hopes of hosting Pakistan depend on the £21m redevelopment of Headingley, which is scheduled to take place during 2009, and Regan is confident the current financial crisis affecting the global economy will not put the plans in jeopardy.

He continued: "As you can imagine, we are doing a lot of reworking of our financial projections; we are having a lot of discussions with our investors.

"We are hopeful that once all of those have been concluded that we will still be able to progress the pavilion as it was originally planned.

"Certainly, we are very optimistic that the programme can be commenced as per the original timescale, but the credit crunch brings new challenges with it and it's not challenges that are within the control of Yorkshire County Cricket Club."



It could be potentially significant money spinner for Headingley and should be well attended due to the large South Asian community across West Yorkshire and beyond. Is there any idea who Pakistan could be playing in 2010 or 2011?

Iceland.

The Rhinos are planning a quick patch-up job on the South Stand which will mean the ground's capacity will end up being cut by 2,000. This will last for two years at which point they will look to demolish and rebuild, probably as a mixed standing/seating stand. From today's YEP:

LEEDS RHINOS: Patch-up planned for South Stand


Date: 28 October 2008
By Peter Smith
Headingley Carnegie Stadium's capacity will be cut by 2,000 following emergency repair work to the famous rugby South Stand.
The terrace is to close until Christmas for a £250,000 patch-up.

It is hoped the stand will re-open in time for Leeds Rhinos' Cravendale Festive Challenge clash with Wakefield Trinity Wildcats on Boxing Day.

But its capacity will be cut from 8,000 to 6,000, with the number of fans allowed in the stadium reduced from 22,500 to 20,500.

Work on repairing the concrete terracing will begin this week, but the plan of works agreed with the building control authorities covers the next two years only and Leeds Rugby are now drawing up proposals for a rebuilt South Stand, likely to include both seats and terracing.

The South Stand was partially closed for Rhinos' final home game of last season, after an annual report highlighted safety concerns.

Testing has been carried out since then and Leeds Rugby chief executive Gary Hetherington said: "The good news is that we will have it ready for Christmas.

"There's a lot of work that needs to be done between now and then and there will be a reduction in capacity. It is a two-year solution, we are spending £250,000 to get by for the next two years.

"It will be closed until Christmas and the work will be done between now and then. From then on, it will have a reduced capacity and the capacity of the ground will be cut to 20,500.

"The South Stand's capacity has been 8,000 and that is going down to 6,000.

"The restricted areas will be at the edges of the stand and therefore will only marginally impact on the South Stand supporters over the next two years."

The Yorkshire Evening Post reported earlier this month that the safety concerns were likely to lead to the stand being demolished and rebuilt.
Hetherington added: "This is a short-term measure, but our long-term plans are also starting now.

"There are three issues: what type of structure do we put there?, how do we fund it? and then obtaining planning permission?

"We will be canvassing fans' opinion and architects will also be getting down to designing what is possible."

Hetherington said an all-seater stand to replace the current standing terrace has been "certainly ruled out".

He added: "That's too costly and not what people want."

One option is another all-standing terrace, though it is more likely the club will press ahead with plans for a two-tier South Stand, with seating and executive facilities above a standing area, similar to the Carnegie Stand which opened two years ago.

The South Stand will be closed for Rhinos' rugby union sister club Leeds Carnegie's home games against Doncaster on Saturday, November 1, Bedford on Sunday, November 9, Moseley on Sunday, November 23, Plymouth on Sunday, December 7 and Exeter on Saturday, December 20.

Carnegie ground season ticket holders who don't want to stand on either the Carnegie or Western Terrace should contact the ticket office to upgrade to a seat for the five affected games.

Meanwhile, Hetherington today confirmed that second-row forward Eric Anselme has left Rhinos after completing his loan stint with the engage Super League champions

Disapointing to have to wait 2 years, and waste £250k in the process. Hopefully they will eventually take capacity to 25k, since they won't get chance to add capacity anywhere else really.

A lengthy article in the Times recently on the role of RDAs in the current downturn but also covering the Headingley pavilion development. I've quoted the interesting bit in the context of Headingley - that Yorkshire are still £4m short of the sum they need for work to begin. I would be happier if Regan had used the word "confident" rather than just "hopeful".

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/entrepreneur/article5061717.ece

Having secured a £4m grant from Yorkshire Forward, the regional development agency, on the basis of the importance of cricket to the area, Regan is still £4m short of the sum he needs for work to begin later this year. But he’s in discussion with three potential investors – and hopeful.

I thought they had all the cash and were good to go this month?...

Stewart Regan (Yorks CEO) has just posted this on The White Rose Forum (Yorks CCC supporters' site). He has posted stuff on there before so I think it's probably genuine. Good news if true.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/274761/thread/1225751526/last-1226226379/Yorkshire+still+%A34million+short+of+Pavillion+target%21


Work starts Nov 10th


Good morning. Don't be misled by the Sunday Times piece. At that point we were still having discussions with investors to finalise our funding following the HBOS collapse. The good news is that we have paid back the first tranche of cash to LCF&A and start work tomorrow, soft stripping the Wintershed, followed by a couple of weeks of removing asbestos ahead of the demolition. The stand will be demolished at the end of November and we will commence building in January. We are very confident that we have the backing of some excellent partners and will deliver the new Pavilion for our members in 2010.

Excellent news, they had already begun clearing the stores of old stock in there, this confirms they are pressing ahead.

Stewart Regan (Yorks CEO) has just posted this on The White Rose Forum (Yorks CCC supporters' site). He has posted stuff on there before so I think it's probably genuine. Good news if true.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/274761/thread/1225751526/last-1226226379/Yorkshire+still+%A34million+short+of+Pavillion+target%21

excellent news!

Demolition should be due to start on the Cricket Pavilion any day now if the above is true?

Demolition has already started there are two portacabins on site and the removal of the seats and the gutting of the interior of the stand has begun. i will give another update tommorow after i finish work there.

I've never understood why they do things like remove the seats before demolition. I can understand removing glass etc but why go to all the effort when they can just bulldoze it?

1. They might be salvagable (i.e. sell/give to some tiny cricket/football club) that can't afford new
2. I bet there are all sorts of regs these days to make sure as much as possible is recycled instead of going to landfill...

Loinerowl- are you working there as staff of the cricket club or as demo man?

I doubt anything in the Wintershed is salvageable! :lol:

The recycling / reusing makes sense...

Demolition has already started there are two portacabins on site and the removal of the seats and the gutting of the interior of the stand has begun. i will give another update tommorow after i finish work there.

oooh, inside man. Excellent. Keep up the updates, and any photos you can snap would be appreciated. good to see the old stadium continuing its modernisation.

Anyone seen any demolition yet? (as in the concrete smashing type)

Anyone know how the drainage work is progressing on the pitch - sounds like Headingley is a bit of a building site currently with the stand being gutted before demolition and the pitch dug up!

i work at headingley for the cricket and rugby clubs i dont find out that much inside information though sadly, however i will try and keep you all updated. I was at the stadium a couple of days ago and there had been no changes in the demolition of the stand which i could see. The cricket pitch is almost finished they are up to the point of laying the new turf. Also the rugby south stand is well on its way to its boxing day re-opening as they appear to be covering the terracing in metal sheeting therefore protecting the concrete which is breaking up. In my opinion i cant wait for it being fully replaced as that stand is a dump with poor facilities.

The bit about the southstand is true however if the redevelop I have heard that they would have to by law have 40% Seating for however big the stand was.... But this simply can not be allowed to happen what they really should do is find out what part of it actually counts as the stand and redevelop and pull down everything around it... eg if the stand counted as the fist 'step' rebuild the rest!
I would love to see a Leagues Club placed within the stand but heck that's a dream....

Another week passes - any progress?

Not too much progress over the last week unfortunately, all of the seats have now been removed however and all advertising hoardings on the stand have been taken down, oversll though the site was very quiet with not much sign of activity. I did take a few photos if anyone is interested in seeing them? In other news the south stand renovation is going well and should definately be finished within the next couple of weeks in time for the Rhino's boxing day game. Im not sure about the 40% of a new stand having to be seated i will try and ask someone involved with the grounds development. The last i heard was that they were planning a two tier stand involving a large lower terrace with a seated upper tier almost like a larger version of the carniegie stand.

ta, thanks for that. Photos yes please.....you can use tinypic or imageshack to get forum compatible links for your photos......