Alabama! :)

http://www.worldcityphotos.org/UnitedStates/USA-AL-Birmingham-BirminghamCVB1.jpg
http://www.worldcityphotos.org/UnitedStates/USA-AL-Birmingham-RSandford1.jpg

Couldn't find more good pics... anyone have any?

sad but boring for me.. 5.5/10

its like the other unknown N. American cities, boxy 5.5

small, not very exciting. 4/10

When you see B-ham in person it is much better 6.5.

show us some more pictures so we can rate it well
but so far from what you have presented it deserves a 6.0 from me

Well. I am from Bham and it is a nice city all together. For some reason they dont build all the tall buildongs downtown. You have to drive to Hoover or even the 280 area to see more. It is nice for the size, but we are always being looked down upon, and of course ATL gets everything first. If someone would give us a chance we would be more than happy to have more buildings to make it " exciting" for all to come and visit.

Would like to see some more non-box building types, but it's not as bad as Columbia. The buildings are beautiful up close. NIce variety of styles, and a somewhat dense cluster there. I like! 7.5/10.

nice pics randy..i give it an 8

7/10


It looks nice

I was not aware of that FAA height restriction... that's depressing...


anyways... I give this an 8

I think B-ham has one of the best skylines in the south... its few newer, taller buildings are pretty unique and interesting... but the real treasure about the city... is the huge number of pre-WW2 structures that are very beautiful... and also quite rare for southern cities... but B-ham's strong industrial heritage made this a powerful city a long time ago.

6.5

Nice form to the cbd, has a nice dense-looking cluster, and some reasonable height (not high enough though as mentioned due to FAA) but impresses me for a southern US city.

Very Nice :).

Some new pictures

http://www.fotopaises.com/imagenes_a/US/AL/12138.jpg

http://www.fotopaises.com/imagenes_a/US/AL/12137.jpg

I give it a 5/10

Boring skyline and too many boxy buildings .. I can only give 6/10

I have been in Birmingham once about last 6 years ago. Skyline in Birmingham was ok and little boring but... Nice building though.

I give you a 6.5/10

Birmingham don't have ecomany booming in downtown as like Los Angeles does. Los Angeles have alot of modern and tallest skyline. Los Angeles keeping plans for project about more tallest build in any decade.

I remember that, Birmingham have bad school system and higher water bills. It does more worse than L.A.

fugly

3/10

7/10. I really like Birmingham, skyline is pretty good for a city its size.

Very nice! A lot of buildings over all, a lot of tall buildings close together, and density, history, and a little bit of grit. What more could you want? 9!

What is the population? Well, since I don't know the actual population, I'll just base it on it's skyline. I guess it's alitle boxy, yet...It doesn't look that large as well, so I give it a 6. :)

6/10

I've never really liked Alabama and birminham confirmes that it just seems like a city that has nothing to do. It whould be a much better southern city if it was more like Atlanta.
5 it does have some kinda skyline.

the orginal Birminghams nicer.

I spent a lot of time in Birmingham last year. It's a really nice city. There are some good and some ugly buildings. I liked it, though. It's above average.
7/10

8/10. It's a pretty good skyline for a southern city. But Tampa and Houston have better skylines.

o.k., here's some far better pics.

metro population's around 1,100,000, the city's about 240,000. the city's got far more in common with Detroit, Buffalo and the rustbelt than say, Atlanta or Nashville, thanks to a heavy urban feel. hopefully i can get on top of my building someday and get a good 360.

i've got some better photos, but my host's updating servers so i can't upload anything right now...

i wake up to this view; it's great

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/28693292.jpg

http://www4.pbase.com/lsyd/image/26327228/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39055542/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/28440774/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/37587783.jpg

http://www4.pbase.com/lsyd/image/30743592.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39055541/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/26327229/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/28049652/original.jpg

http://www4.pbase.com/lsyd/image/30471841.jpg

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for a lot more photos, most at street level and all over this city, click here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=137927)

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LSyd, I've always wondered what that view was like from that ridge. Everytime I pass through Bham I'm jealous of the people who live up there. You are one of them! Nice.

Finally, some decent photos! Thank's, LSyd :).
I love Bham; I would move there in a heartbeat.

LSyd, I've always wondered what that view was like from that ridge. Everytime I pass through Bham I'm jealous of the people who live up there. You are one of them! Nice.

i'm not up on top of the ridge, but a few floors up in a building at the base of it, so i've got a plus. i walked up there and took pics from the road one day. when the weather clears up and i've got time i'm going back up there with my new camera.

JRQ, i thought some decent photos were long overdue.

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the weather's been crap the past week, so i haven't been able to play with my new camera that much, but this came out nicely.

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39260508/original.jpg

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Very Nice! I like the sorta mistic look to it.

Very Nice! I like the sorta mistic look to it.

i've always thought of it more as a bladerunner-look.

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Very pretty. I give it a 7/10. :okay:

7/10

Small but dense cluster. Not bad. 7/10

ah, it's back up now...enjoy.

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/42070425/original.jpg

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7/10

thanks fear of heights. i think i've taken some drive-bys from that spot, and when i've been stuck in traffic, but nothing very panoramic or good. maybe i can find someone with a sunroof or convertible to drive me into going home traffic so i can get a good pano. :)

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LSyd,

I saw one of the most amazing Bham skyline pics I've ever seen not too long ago. It was from a perspective few see. The shot is from Ruffner Mountain a few miles northeast of downtown. The skyline looks totally different. I wish I knew where I saw it but it was amazing.

Very nice pics guys, how big is Birmingham anyways? The place looks kinda dry.

Very nice pics guys, how big is Birmingham anyways? The place looks kinda dry.

Birmingham, Alabama
http://www.city-data.com/city/Birmingham-Alabama.html


Population (year 2000): 242,820, Est. population in July 2002: 239,416 (-1.4% change)
Males: 112,046 (46.1%), Females: 130,774 (53.9%)

Elevation: 600 feet

County: Jefferson

Land area: 149.9 square miles

Zip codes: 35203, 35204, 35205, 35206, 35207, 35208, 35209, 35210, 35211, 35212, 35213, 35214, 35215, 35216, 35217, 35218, 35221, 35222, 35223, 35224, 35226, 35228, 35233, 35234, 35235, 35242, 35243, 35244.

Median resident age: 34.3 years
Median household income: $26,735 (year 2000)
Median house value: $62,100 (year 2000)

New: Birmingham, AL residents, houses, and apartments details

Races in Birmingham:

Black (73.5%)
White Non-Hispanic (23.5%)
Hispanic (1.6%)
Two or more races (0.8%)
Other race (0.6%)
New: Political contributions by individuals in Birmingham, AL

Ancestries: United States (3.9%), English (3.2%), Irish (2.8%), German (2.3%), Subsaharan African (1.4%), Scotch-Irish (1.1%).



For population 25 years and over in Birmingham

High school or higher: 75.5%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 18.5%
Graduate or professional degree: 6.6%
Unemployed: 10.8%
Mean travel time to work: 23.5 minutes
For population 15 years and over in Birmingham city

Never married: 35.2%
Now married: 38.0%
Separated: 4.0%
Widowed: 9.5%
Divorced: 13.3%
2.1% Foreign born (1.0% Latin America, 0.6% Asia, 0.3% Europe).





Nearest city with pop. 1,000,000+: Chicago, IL (578.2 miles, pop. 2,896,016).

Nearest cities: Homewood, AL (3.9 miles), Tarrant, AL (5.4 miles), Mountain Brook, AL (5.6 miles), Fultondale, AL (6.3 miles), Vestavia Hills, AL (6.8 miles), Forestdale, AL (7.1 miles), Cahaba Heights, AL (7.2 miles), Fairfield, AL (7.9 miles).


Single-family new house construction building permits:
1996: 118 buildings, average cost: $103,700
1997: 128 buildings, average cost: $107,200
1998: 152 buildings, average cost: $88,400
1999: 137 buildings, average cost: $113,000
2000: 118 buildings, average cost: $123,800
2001: 108 buildings, average cost: $128,100
2002: 188 buildings, average cost: $135,600
2003: 152 buildings, average cost: $157,000


Area code: 205

New: Birmingham, Alabama business data: stores, dealers, real estate agents, wholesalers, restaurants...

Industries providing employment: Educational,health and social services (24.7%), Retail trade (11.1%).


Crime in Birmingham (2001):
73 murders (29.9 per 100,000)
206 rapes (84.5 per 100,000)
1,084 robberies (444.7 per 100,000)
1,664 assaults (682.6 per 100,000)
4,079 burglaries (1673.4 per 100,000)
11,928 larceny counts (4893.3 per 100,000)
2,051 auto thefts (841.4 per 100,000)
City-data.com crime index = 716.6 (higher means more crime)

I like Birmingham.....cool town 7.5/10

It deserves more than the consecutive 7.0 votes that it's recieving, but oh well.

^ i agree, but consecutive 7's not that bad. reinforces my faith in humanity can be rational and objective.

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In all fairness, I think 7 out of 10 is a fair assessment of the Bham skyline. It has nice density, a great mix of early 20th century high and midrises as well as a few impressive modern towers, and several incredible views and angles of this underrated skyline. Now if the city would add a regional draw (whatever that might be) as well as an entertainment district the downtown area would really become a more well rounded area.

On another note, it's disappointing to see the city limit population gradually decrease. Unfortunately, Bham has been hurt by de-annexations on the fringes of its already small and limited city boundaries which have hurt population numbers even more. The city population is misleading as the metro as a whole is experiencing unspectacular, but respectable and steady population growth. The Bham-Hoover metro area currently has right at 1,075,000 residents.

P.S. Wish I could post that Ruffner Mtn. picture but I don't know how to.

i agree with the downtown entertainment. i'd probably live downtown, except all the entertainment and great bars are on southside. i'm only a block from GQ's #2 bar in the world, The Garage.

plus there's a bar/coffee shop on the first floor of my building...then there's a tons more in walking distance.

plus i have a a far better view of all the downtown buildings/cbd from my tower.

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The skyline is much better that I accepted. It has some decent height and a nice snatch of density. Most of the taller buildings, however, are pretty ugly.

6.0/10.

When you see B-ham in person it is much better 6.5

true. very laid back city. it's losing population, i wonder why?

6/10

6.5 :cheers:

That seems keeping goes decline in it's city proper.

some sorta new ones

this one's from the top of an old (1930) 20-story hotel being turned into condos

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/45201126/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/43254771/original.jpg

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That top picture is awesome!!! :eek2:

8/10- very well developed :)

with two or three non-boxy buildings it would be an interesting skyline.

6/10 for now.

7/10
;)

Birmingham has a good skyline...underrated American city 7/10

7/10

There have been hints of a couple of towers going up but nothing real close to reality yet. Westin wants to build a highrise hotel on the site of the Board of Education building downtown. Unfortunately the city is dragging its feet yet again.

Lots of condo development and UAB construction going on the last few months in downtown Birmingham. Lots of cool old midrise buildings being renovated into nice condo developments. Unfortunately, while there's a lot going on there isn't anything tall being built that would really stick out at the moment.

BTW, I love the symetry and density of Bham's downtown core. The skyline isn't huge by any means, but is much more impressive in person. The place also has some incredible vantage points to view downtown as well. If anyone is ever in town, be sure to visit Vulcan park and ride the elevator to the catwalk above (if you aren't afraid of heights). It is an awesome view of the city.

if by "cool old midrise" you mean pre-WWII and WWI skyscrapers, yes, there's a lot of redevelopment. and the smaller, true midrises of that era (mid-rise as 11 stories and under.)

an 11 story just started construction, there's another 11 story planned a block away that seems to have stalled out...hopefully it'll still get built. each of these is about about a quarter of a mile from my place, so it's nice to see the progress. there's also 16 big houses being built on a small piece of land next door to me.

a couple of new panos from old vantage points. sorry for the distortion.

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/56668274/original.jpg

notice the crane in the foreground for one of the 11 stories...

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/56627230/original.jpg

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I'm not too impressed, but what the hell...10! :D

5.5

6.5/10

Wow, impressive. I wasn't expecting that. 7/10

Better then expected.

7/10

Better then Birmingham UK - I like it, but it needs more buildings 5.5/10

BTW, I never rated it. I'd give it a 7 out of 10 based on density, setting (has several ridges with amazing vantage points), and the number of midrise/highrise historical gems like City Federal, The Cabana, etc. The minuses are that it lacks a few 500+ footers. Having said that, it's still easily the 3rd best skyline in the Deep South (Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi) behind Atlanta and New Orleans. The skyline is about 3 or 4 500 to 600 footers away from having an awesome and dense mix of highrises and midrises.

7.5/10

i dig b'ham's skyline and now that i've been there, i really dig the city as well.

I gave Birmingham a 6.5. Alot of nice midrises and I like the density but no great architecture.

I respectfully disagree. It doesn't have the beautiful modern glass towers that a Charlotte has but it has awesome pre World War 2 designs among many of the midrises. The Amsouth Harbert Plaza (one of Bham's 4 modern highrises) is easily one of the Top 25 towers in the entire Southeast design and visual appeal wise in my humble opinion.

P.S. While Lsyd does a fantastic job with his pictures, there are several photos on urbanplanet that are even more spectacular.

aerials i took a couple of weeks ago

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/57953292/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/57953290/original.jpg

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I gave Birmingham a 6.5. Alot of nice midrises and I like the density but no great architecture..jpg

i guess you're a fan of "shiny" buildings :weird: :ohno:

my favorites architecturally speaking:

the art deco 3 (there's a 4th outside of the CBD, the Bank of Ensley which is being rehabbed after being vacant for a long time.)

Watts tower

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/55897067.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/40558621.jpg

Commerce Center

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/40558218.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/40558622.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/53627530.jpg

Alabama Power

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/52953634.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/56380334.jpg

neoclassica/beaux arts

Cabana Hotel (formerly Hotel Thomas Jefferson)

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/52953777.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/57370706.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/58398726.jpg

City Federal Building

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/53627527.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/55897175.jpg

Age-Herald Building

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/57368876.jpg

Jefferson Tower (the one with the spire in the distance, sorry, i don't have a better pic)

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/52953768.jpg

Empire Building

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/58398730.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39055390.jpg

Quinlan Castle

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/43865985.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/26563732.jpg

modern

2 North 20th

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/52953796.jpg

post-modern

Amsouth Harbert Plaza

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/40559626.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/39055041.jpg

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Lsyd,

Your pictures are awesome. In fact, I think you may have posted some of the very pictures I'm referring to from urban planet. I wish I could post pictures but I don't know how to. Here are some links though.

Great night time shot: "Magic City"

static.flickr.com/33/52759870_3f092f009f_o.jpg

Nice density:

static.flickr.com/14/18396625_93991372fd.jpg (http://static.flickr.com/14/18396625_93991372fd.jpg)

A different perspective....looking south from downtown back towards red mountain

www.mostlivable.org/cities/birmingham/images/HOME-MISC/web_Birm_sky_sm.jpg (http://www.mostlivable.org/cities/birmingham/images/HOME-MISC/web_Birm_sky_sm.jpg)

Vulcan Park:

www.vulcanpark.org/images/vulcan-horizontal-home.jpg (http://www.vulcanpark.org/images/vulcan-horizontal-home.jpg)


Very cool picture of downtown with Vulcan in the foreground....this one captures the suprising amount of density in the downtown area.

www.vulcanpark.org/images/area-attractions.jpg (http://www.vulcanpark.org/images/area-attractions.jpg)

6/10

just the same old american city. 6/10

Um, the flatness reminds me of Minneapolis.
5.5/10

skyline's a bit small.. :(

5/10

A different, but very cool perspective from Red Mtn.


This may be the best Birmingham pano I've ever seen. Enjoy!!

forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=104154 (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=104154)

8/10

Love the hometown! The new and old merge quite well. All its lacking is a nice spire to serve as a focal point, but with the FAA regulations it’s not likely to happen anytime soon...

http://static.flickr.com/34/99722192_6c81cb48a7_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/37/83989966_1d3994c7fa_o.jpg

5/10

Looks like some crazy highway city! Nice old buildings though in the close up pics (hence the 5 points). From afar though, I think I'd just turn back around and leave. Maybe that's why there are so many highways?

Some great pics here... 8.5. Nice Skyline!

O.K. for size of city. It is kind of depressing me the more I look at it...

I like the smaller but more historical buldings though. The city itself deserves a 9 but the skyline deserves a 5.

Good density. Bham to me is a more dense/less spread out, slightly taller version of Memphis only with nicer modern towers (in other words...the few modern towers are nicer IMO than Memphis's).

Nice but not that much.7/10

BORING!
5

im doing some posting outside of the skybar to get that inimpresive post count of mine up even though ive been here fur like a year lol.

6..

5,5/10

7.5/10

6.5 not more

6/10

7/10

Not bad for a city I thought it was England;)
5.5/10

You have to get into downtown Bham and understand the surrounding terrain to appreciate the skyline of this city. For example, heading north on I-65 from south of the city you cut through and over Red Mtn and veer right and boom...the skyline pops up out of nowhere. This is what I find cool about this skyline along with how dense it is with great old architecture.

8 for the character of buildings and density but a 6 based on wow factor. Score is a 7.

the orginal Birminghams nicer.

I disagree :D j/k

Anyway, the skyline is nice, but not great. 7/10

7.5/10

The downtown of birmingham could be better
7

from flickr

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/70713900_a83952d35c_o.jpg
by willamjr, http://flickr.com/photos/81464596@N00/70713900/

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/51/110459300_8f505cc780_o.jpg
by LSyd, http://flickr.com/photos/23203048@N00/110459300/

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/13/18241267_fc397fbf67_o.jpg
by justincrawley, http://flickr.com/photos/jcrawley/18241267/

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1278/755257033_1020e90545_o.jpg
by chris.george, http://flickr.com/photos/26027644@N00/755257033/

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/85/281449521_d401d47bdc_b.jpg
by glynnish, http://flickr.com/photos/glynnis/281449521/

Birmingham needs to step it up. Its skyline sucks for a metro of its size.

average looking american city....7

6/10

7.5..........better than I would have thought. Much better than similar sized Omaha, Memphis, or OKC

hey mdguy, could you please credit the photographers when you post pics you find online (the black and white one's mine.) i don't mind you posting it, it's just polite to give credit. thanks.

oh, and since it hasn't been mentioned in a while:

the height limit for Birmingham's downtown is 454 feet/138 meters because of the airport being close to downtown; the city's two tallest are almost that height. there was a plan for a 900 and 700 foot towers to be built in 1991 just on the edge of downtown, but they were cancelled. another tower just outside of downtown was scaled back from 30 to 20 stories in 1970 because of a sinkhole near the foundation...so sadly Birmingham's vertically challenged due to regulations and poor soil.

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oh, sure thing! I just one time saw somewhere (i think either here or ssp) that said you didn't have to specify the photographer, but ill try do that from now on!

7/10

pics by me

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/90557743/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/90557742/original.jpg

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7/10

8/10

9/10

7/10

6/10

6.5/10

4/10

6.5/10

8/10

6/10

Boring skyline and too many boxy buildings .. I can only give 6/10

I agree with you man, voted 6/10 not exciting, still needs time to developed, colors are similar to other buildings...but looks peaceful and quiet.

7/10

6/10

8/10

7. Regards.

5.5/10

5.5/10

http://i064.radikal.ru/1001/74/71ca72828c39.jpg

9/10

Well. I am from Bham and it is a nice city all together. For some reason they dont build all the tall buildongs downtown. You have to drive to Hoover or even the 280 area to see more. It is nice for the size, but we are always being looked down upon, and of course ATL gets everything first. If someone would give us a chance we would be more than happy to have more buildings to make it " exciting" for all to come and visit.

Lame excuses,for a city facing a big bankruptcy (3.5$b),a quick succession of mayors (about 4 in 5 yrs)with some in prison and accusations of corrupt contracts things are only getting worse.It,certainly,is not a case of being looked down upon but a case of bad management,rotting infrastructure and nobody wanting to invest in a sinking ship.
Me thinks somebody needs to move to Egypt for being in "de nile" .3.5

I personally love Birmingham skyline and i find myself smiling when looking at bigger cities skylines such as Baltimore or Jacksonville!

I personally love Birmingham skyline and i find myself smiling when looking at bigger cities skylines such as Baltimore or Jacksonville!

Birmingham has a larger metro than Jacksonville, and Baltimore has about 500,000 more in its metro than Birmingham, and with a sizably larger skyline, I don't think Birmingham looks good in comparison imo.

It's good looking for it's population!6.5/10!

7.5..........better than I would have thought. Much better than similar sized Omaha, Memphis, or OKC

^^Much better than OKC?No, but it compares!you might wanna re-post in about 1-2 yrs,as a monster 850 ft tower is being built as we speak,in OKC!

Lame excuses,for a city facing a big bankruptcy (3.5$b),a quick succession of mayors (about 4 in 5 yrs)with some in prison and accusations of corrupt contracts things are only getting worse.It,certainly,is not a case of being looked down upon but a case of bad management,rotting infrastructure and nobody wanting to invest in a sinking ship.
Me thinks somebody needs to move to Egypt for being in "de nile" .3.5

The city isn’t near Bankruptcy at all, it’s Jefferson county. That’s why all the news articles refer to it as the Jefferson County Sewer Debt, not Birmingham City… and the debt is now 3.9 Billion (I believe). http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/metro.ssf?/base/news/123675931663870.xml&coll=2

Birmingham has a larger metro than Jacksonville, and Baltimore has about 500,000 more in its metro than Birmingham, and with a sizably larger skyline, I don't think Birmingham looks good in comparison imo.

Baltimore has a nice skyline...but isn't as nice as Cleveland or Pittsburgh. Baltimore is a great city with great density and fabric though so why care about the skyline?

similarly, Birmingham has a great skyline for having a FAA height restriction downtown. there were plans to build a 700' tower (with guady cross designs) just south of the restriction zone but those got cancelled (thankfully?) due to Desert Storm in 1990 (and Atlanta benefited.)

Birmingham/Jefferson County has suffered from corrupt, ignorant leadership since the 1950s, while its regional neighbors benefited. despite this, it's an otherwise healthy city.

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^^Much better than OKC?No, but it compares!you might wanna re-post in about 1-2 yrs,as a monster 850 ft tower is being built as we speak,in OKC!

i did think that OKC was very comparable to Birmingham in size and feel (except OKC's flat and Bham's hilly) when i visited, although Birmingham has healthier streetlife. Birmingham should take a lesson or five from Bricktown though.

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i did think that OKC was very comparable to Birmingham in size and feel (except OKC's flat and Bham's hilly) when i visited, although Birmingham has healthier streetlife. Birmingham should take a lesson or five from Bricktown though.

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^^Yes size and feel,but I was talking about skylines!

More impressive then what I was expecting.

8/10

Baltimore has a nice skyline...but isn't as nice as Cleveland or Pittsburgh. Baltimore is a great city with great density and fabric though so why care about the skyline?


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True, Baltimore's skyline is not as good as those two and is a city that doesn't need a nice skyline to be a great city. However, the post i was speaking to was referring about the actual size of the skyline, which was not very well thought out in its examples. Baltimore has a much larger skyline than the 'classic inner harbor view' would lead most to think, as that view blocks out many buildings of decent size. Birmingham does not have a larger skyline than Baltimore nor should it for its size, and Jacksonville has a very comparable skyline, because both cities are the same size.

Baltimore's skyline isn't as nice as Cleveland's? I just don't see that at all. Cleveland has a couple of taller buildings, but overall lags way, way behind in density and flow.

Baltimore's skyline isn't as nice as Cleveland's? I just don't see that at all. Cleveland has a couple of taller buildings, but overall lags way, way behind in density and flow.

I would agree now that i think about it a bit more. Cleveland's is a bit more dramatic though, while Baltimore is denser (denser than Pittsburgh as well) and more balanced and attractive.

Now that i think about though, LSyd, what was the relevance of mentioning those two cities? lol

^Baltimore's skyline isn't as memorable, but that's o.k. it's far better at street level.

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2755/4317822138_90098def63_b_d.jpg

^^ Great density in that pic!Thanx for postin it Desertpunk!

that is a great shot!

^Baltimore's skyline isn't as memorable, but that's o.k. it's far better at street level.

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Yes. Though again, what's the point of arguing Baltimore's skyline down? I was repyling to the guy who says Jacksonville and Baltimore look bad size-wise in comparison with Birmingham, and then you bring in two new, irrelevant cities and compare them to Baltimore. I don't understand the purpose of that.

Edit: not trying to be rude or anything! it was just bugging me

6.5/10

It's alright, definitely the best skyline in Alabama. The buildings are somewhat boxy but at least the density is respectable.

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/127275065/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/127275070/original.jpg

Railroad Park under construction, basically it'll be the city's "central" park (big dirt area in the middle of the city in the aerials)

http://www.pbase.com/lsyd/image/127274765/original.jpg

the rest of my recent pics (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1190085)

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6.5 Birmingham has some nice historical layers but the rest is meh.

whats up with the double posting??... anyways....

I gave it a 5/10 those panos really helped

Not too bad 6/10

5/10.

hmmm...
looks very bland. 2/10

Birmingham has a larger metro than Jacksonville, and Baltimore has about 500,000 more in its metro than Birmingham, and with a sizably larger skyline, I don't think Birmingham looks good in comparison imo.

Actually Jax metro is 1.330 million, Birmingham's is 1.120 million, and Baltimore's is 2.670 million. These are 2009 census numbers, not my own. Also Birmingham's central county Jefferson County has 665,000 people over 1,113 square miles of land while Jacksonville's Duval County has 857,000 people over 774 square miles of land. Now you tell me which metro is larger. Jacksonville also has a considerably larger skyline and a larger metro feel being that it is closer to more urban areas, has much higher tourism, has snowbirds/second home people, and is growing much much faster.

OTOH Birmingham has more beautiful old buildings and skyscrapers still intact (though Jax can compete on that front) and Birmingham has a downtown university campus/medical campus. It is not a bad skyline and they have a wonderful new park near the famous slosh furnaces.

I like this one. 6.5/10

3/10

8/10
is this the state's largest city?

5.5/10. Needs some more variety and density.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2574/3760871926_26bcc7da2f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/exothermic/3760871926/)
[/url] by Exothermic (http://www.flickr.com/photos/exothermic/3760871926/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/76/204617006_c491c3d3a2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregski/204617006/)
by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/gregski/]LacerdaGonzo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregski/204617006/)

^^That last pic reminds me of Des Moines but w/o a signature tall!Anyone else see what I'm seeing?

6/10

5.5/10

8/10
is this the state's largest city?

Yeah.

Alabama isn't one of the highest populated states...

6.5/10

8/10

This photo is not mine.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/427085_3517913191210_1373409175_3512718_1106518468_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/427085_3517913191210_1373409175_3512718_1106518468_n.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5322/7405917566_8c37112641_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/timandrenda/7405917566/)
2012-0617D0012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/timandrenda/7405917566/) by TRCP Alliance (http://www.flickr.com/people/timandrenda/), on Flickr

6.5/10

7.5/10

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8185/8077502280_d1d46d3b9e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/digitizedchaos/8077502280/)
downtown bhm (http://www.flickr.com/photos/digitizedchaos/8077502280/) by digitizedchaos (http://www.flickr.com/people/digitizedchaos/), on Flickr

5/10

6/10

6.5/10. Very respectable for a skyline in the southern United States.

7/10 nice mid-size city.

4.5/10

Second City?! 5/10

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7254/7659465134_dd9192f571_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thelsatman/7659465134/)
Birmingham on a Rainy Night (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thelsatman/7659465134/) by The LSA Tman (http://www.flickr.com/people/thelsatman/), on Flickr