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Day Release September 9th, 2005, 07:59 PM The Carnegie Stand
06/09/05
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Headingley Stadium is set to undergo its most historic redevelopment work in over 70 years with the announcement of the new Carnegie Stand situated at the eastern end of the Rugby Stadium.
The new Carnegie Stand, which will incorporate 1,844 seats in its 4,550 capacity, will be developed in partnership with Leeds Metropolitan University and will give the university a permanent base at the Stadium.
The Carnegie Stand will incorporate 12 seminar rooms, a major facility for up to 350 people, together with a mini helpzone and triple the number of disabled spaces currently available at Headingley Stadium.
The project will start on 11th October and is due to be completed by the end of July 2006.
Commenting on the announcement Leeds Rugby Chief Executive Gary Hetherington said, “This is an historic announcement for the Stadium and shows our commitment to restoring Headingley to its correct place at the pinnacle of rugby stadia. We are extremely grateful to Leeds Metropolitan University for their support in this partnership that will have wholesale advantages for both sides.
“In 2003 we set out our vision statement for Leeds Rugby Limited and this announcement sees the fruition of that vision. We committed to making Leeds Rugby the leader in club rugby and a profitable business that will support investment in Headingley by 2006. We are now in a position whereby Leeds Rhinos are World Champions and Leeds Tykes have an opportunity to be Heineken Cup Champions this season and we are investing the profit into Headingley Stadium.
“We are immensely proud of the heritage of Headingley Stadium as the current custodians in its 115 year history. The building of the Carnegie Stand is the biggest structural change to the Stadium since the rebuilding of the Main Stand in 1932 and brings new modern facilities for all supporters to benefit from on a matchday.”
Professor Simon Lee, Vice-Chancellor of Leeds Metropolitan University, said, “Leeds Metropolitan University is delighted that our partnership with Leeds Rugby is going from strength to strength. We want the players, staff and supporters of the clubs to feel at home on our campuses and we certainly feel welcome at Headingley Stadium. The Carnegie Stand will improve the environment still further, both for those watching the games and for those who want to study or come to events in this special setting where students rub shoulders with champions. We are grateful also to the club for making this happen so swiftly that the new stand will be ready well ahead of 2007 when we will be celebrating our first hundred years of education in Headingley.”
freeluas July 1st, 2006, 08:11 PM Anyone got some updated photographs. I know its not a big a development as the Emirates but deserves another mention.
Zim Flyer July 1st, 2006, 11:41 PM Anyone got some updated photographs. I know its not a big a development as the Emirates but deserves another mention.
I saw a tiny bit of it today on the tv during the cricket and it looks very impressive.
The Hunted July 2nd, 2006, 01:24 AM rhinomatt posted this pic in the Leeds Metro Area forum, hope he dosen't mind if I post the pic here.
http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/1072/newstand5thmaymedium3kd.th.jpg (http://img310.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newstand5thmaymedium3kd.jpg)
I think this pic was taken in May and cheers to rhinomatt.
Zim Flyer July 2nd, 2006, 12:19 PM Nice one, The Hunted.
It looks an impressive stand.
Does anyone know if there are plans to rebuild that ugly stand that the cricket and rugby ground share.
CharlieP July 2nd, 2006, 12:36 PM Nice one, The Hunted.
It looks an impressive stand.
Does anyone know if there are plans to rebuild that ugly stand that the cricket and rugby ground share.
You can't have been paying enough attention to the cricket, since David Gower confirmed on air that there are... :)
LeedsLad July 2nd, 2006, 01:37 PM Yeah I can't wait til they rebuild the 'Main' Stand - it will really finish Headingley off. The Carnegie stand also features a 2 storey bridge linking it to the corporate building in the corner.
From the Leeds HEadingley Stadium forum (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=253661&page=1&pp=20):
The vision of the future for Headingley- http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=89&ArticleID=1310943
Cricket and rugby clubs are planning to make Headingley one of the world's top sporting venues. John Ledger reports.
LEEDS Rhinos and Yorkshire yesterday spelled out their determination to restore Headingley's status as one of the world's pre-eminent sporting venues on a momentous day in the history of the famous old stadium.
As well as announcing a lucrative naming rights deal that will see the ground be known as Headingley Carnegie Stadium for the next 10 years, the cricket and rugby clubs mapped out their plans to haul the ageing complex into the 21st century.
Yorkshire, who took ownership of the cricket stadium for the first time in their history less than two weeks ago, will work closely with their former landlords to transform the face of Headingley in readiness for the 2009 Ashes.
At the heart of the redevelopment will be the demolition of the existing North Stand/Football Stand and the construction of a state-of-the-art shared stand that will take the capacity of the cricket stadium up to the 20,000 demanded by the England and Wales Cricket Board.
Yorkshire's commitment to boosting the capacity to the ECB minimum helped them secure a 15-year international staging agreement at the same time as they completed the £9m purchase of the ground from Leeds CF&A in the last few days of 2005.
Although the new stand will increase the capacity of the rugby ground by less than 600, Leeds officials insist the facility could see Headingley win back its place on the Test match rugby league circuit.
The total cost of the ambitious redevelopment, which includes the £7m Leeds are spending on building a new east stand, is around £28m and though funding details remain sketchy, officials with both clubs are confident of carrying out their plans.
"The Headingley vision, once realised, will mean that Headingley will have become one of the finest sports complexes in the country, providing cricket, rugby and educational facilities to world class standards," said Yorkshire chairman Robin Smith.
Leeds chief executive Gary Hetherington revealed that Yorkshire Forward, the Government-backed regional development agency, were involved in the negotiations and would be a valuable source of grant aid.
"Everybody recognises the need to develop Headingley. We are well down the road with support from Yorkshire Forward," said Hetherington.
"A recent economic impact study conducted by Sheffield Hallam University showed how valuable Test match cricket at Headingley is to the whole region. Yorkshire Forward recognise that and we hope they are going to be a major partner in the future development. Things are very promising. The new East Stand is a reality, the deal with Yorkshire has been done and we hope to move swiftly to the next stage."
Hetherington said work on the new £11m shared stand, which will take 11 months to complete, could begin as early as August next year.
"It is inevitable that the work will disrupt business for both the rugby clubs and the cricket club but it has to be done," he said. "If we work towards our preferred timescale then we'd start in August 2007 because in the spring of 2008 it's the rugby league World Cup in Australia and the Super League season is likely to start later.
"That would give us a seven-month free run and, if we play our first three or four matches of the 2008 season away from home, it would entail minimal disruption."
The shared stand would create 3,000 extra seats for the cricket stadium but just 340 more – along with 250 corporate places – on the rugby side, numbers which will do little to boost the capacity of a ground which was regularly filled to bursting point in 2005.
Leeds Metropolitan University secured the rights to call the venue Headingley Carnegie Stadium with a "significant financial investment". As well as sharing sporting expertise with the rugby club, the university will have wide-ranging use of the facilities within the new Carnegie Stand.
TIMELINE
2000 – Work begins to rebuild the western terrace and instal modern bucket seating, the first stage of a long overdue £14m redevelopment of the cricket stadium.
2001 – A new east stand, northern enclosure and north-east corner transform the look of the cricket venue.
2000-2002 – £3m worth of work on the rugby ground involving a refit of facilities beneath the South Stand and new roof on the main stand is completed.
2005 – The old terracing at the old scoreboard end of the rugby ground is demolished to make way for a new £7m facility, the Carnegie Stand. Scheduled for completion in September 2006, the stand will have a capacity of 4,540 and will feature 13 classrooms, a 650-seater cafe and banqueting suite.
August 2007 – Work to begin on a new £11m shared stand featuring an extra 3,000 seats on the cricket side that will increase the Test venue's capacity to 22,000. The double-tiered cantilever stands will feature shared executive boxes above a central concourse housing bars and concession stands.
Post-2009 – Yorkshire to build a new pavilion and media centre at a cost of around £7m. Leeds to investigate means of extending the South Stand.
12 January 2006
I have to say it all sounds impressive; shared concourse, cantilever roof, shared exec boxes, cricket capacity up by 3,000 etc etc. HOWEVER I am very disapointed that the capacity of the rugby ground will hardly be increased. These are the most expensive seats and would have been a good way of cashing in on corporate seats/rich people. There won't be a chance to add more seating for maybe upto 100 years (assuming this stand and the new east stand last that long) so seems a little short sighted, especially since there were lots of sell-out games last few seasons. How about adding a full-time big screen too (maybe built into the roof ala Spurs at White Hart Lane: (http://www.footanglais.com/presequipe.php?id=9&nom=TOTTENHAM). Good to see they plan on increasing South Stand Capacity as the next project in 2009!
Outline plan for a new Cricket/Rugby stand.
http://www.southstander.com/fusion_images/newnorthstandplan.jpg
Chogmook July 2nd, 2006, 04:17 PM A very unique 2 sided stand, does any other sporting complex have anything similar?
CharlieP July 2nd, 2006, 05:06 PM The Millennium Stadium and Cardiff Arms Park also share a two-sided stand - it's the only part of the old National Stadium that wasn't demolished.
I think Northampton Town's ground has a similar (though much smaller) arrangement, with seats for viewing an athletics track behind one of the stands.
freeluas July 3rd, 2006, 01:28 AM it would be nice to have a similar stand at the other open end to give more cover and a cohesive shape. The Shared mainstand looks good too. All then they need would be a nice cantilever or goal post roof for the Side terrace and of course retain the terracing there.
tackler7 July 3rd, 2006, 01:51 AM it would be nice to have a similar stand at the other open end to give more cover and a cohesive shape. The Shared mainstand looks good too. All then they need would be a nice cantilever or goal post roof for the Side terrace and of course retain the terracing there.
I don't think that there is room for a similar stand at the west end of the ground.
I have always thought it would have been better to have demolish the south stand - rebuild a modern stand further back - ulitilising some space from the car park, then to rebuild the east stand and north stand. This way the ground could have grown in capacity and had a more cohesive look.
<<Charlie P, are you still playing these days?>>
LeedsLad July 3rd, 2006, 02:07 AM Good to see from the above timeline that construction of the new main stand is scheduled for little more than a years time!...
I have serious reservations about them not increasing seating capacity on the rugby side though. The South and West stands will always remain terraced, and the East stand has just been built, so the main stand is their last chance to add any seating...
Jaeger July 3rd, 2006, 03:15 PM Old Trafford is also staying at it's present site and will also see massive investment - good news for cricket.
CharlieP August 9th, 2006, 02:06 PM Good to see from the above timeline that construction of the new main stand is scheduled for little more than a years time!...
I have serious reservations about them not increasing seating capacity on the rugby side though. The South and West stands will always remain terraced, and the East stand has just been built, so the main stand is their last chance to add any seating...
I think there's more of a pressing need to increase the capacity on the cricket side than the rugby side - with new upstarts like Glamorgan CCC trying to get in on the Test match racket it probably won't be long before 20,000 is the minimum capacity for Tests...
Zim Flyer August 9th, 2006, 02:08 PM I think there's more of a pressing need to increase the capacity on the cricket side than the rugby side - with new upstarts like Glamorgan CCC trying to get in on the Test match racket it probably won't be long before 20,000 is the minimum capacity for Tests...
CharlieP, did you go yesterday and did you enjoy yourself.
Secondly, during the Testmatch, I kept hearing rumours that the ground (cricket) is going to look amazing in the future. Is this just talk or are we at a position to look at plans or renders? Does anyone know.
CharlieP August 9th, 2006, 03:50 PM CharlieP, did you go yesterday and did you enjoy yourself.
Yes, I had a cracking day out. Saw Botham, Boycott and Simon Hughes (though didn't want to be a fanboy and ask for autographs) and had a great seat in the North East stand just next to the cordoned-off section behind the bowler's arm. Only managed to get four pints in though since we rattled them out before 3...
Secondly, during the Testmatch, I kept hearing rumours that the ground (cricket) is going to look amazing in the future. Is this just talk or are we at a position to look at plans or renders? Does anyone know.
Headingley is never going to look "amazing" if you ask me, but it will be further improved once the new pavilion and media centre is built in place of the rickety old Winter Shed, and the new shared stand is built at the football ground end. I read on SSC that the plan is to start that project once the 2008 Super League season ends, since it's apparently going to start and finish earlier because of the Rugby League World Cup in Australia that year - by my reckoning they'll need to build the new pavilion before that so that the players and officials aren't left without accomodation (though I don't know how the commentators would be affected), so they ought to start that end in the next year or so... Beyond that I don't know much at all.
LeedsLad August 10th, 2006, 12:42 AM I think a condition of Yorkshires new test match contract was 20k capacity? Can't wait for the new Main Stand!! :D
CharlieP August 12th, 2006, 10:26 AM Aha! I was reading my match programme yesterday (didn't exactly get a lot of time to read it at the Test! :)), and in the column by the YCCC chief executive he states that "a state of the art pavilion is planned for 2008 on the site of the existing Wintershed stand". So that probably means starting work straight after the Test or ODI next year, whichever is later...
Zim Flyer August 13th, 2006, 05:10 PM Going slightly off topic here and sorry to people hoping to view the Carnegie stand but it is related to Headingley so stick with me on this.
These are my fave cricket stands in the country and would like to see something like this at Headingley if it too is to look "stunning":
The oval:
http://*************************/london/jpgs/brit_oval_miller_83b.jpg
The Mound Stand Lords:
http://www.cricketweb.net/news/photos/43.jpg
The Rose Bowl:
http://www.yorkshireccc.com/gallery/rosebowlpavilion/image
and Trent Bridge (not the best picture):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1490000/images/_1493313_notts300.jpg
The Hunted August 14th, 2006, 02:14 AM ^^ Stop showing porn Zim :)
CharlieP August 14th, 2006, 11:14 AM I love Trent Bridge, but ever since I worked out that the new Radcliffe Road Stand (the one in Zim's picture) isn't symmetrical it's always slightly bothered me :)
I'd love to design a new set of stands for the Loughborough Road side of the ground, stretching all the way round from the pavilion (relocating the squash courts to make room) to the Radcliffe Road Stand - I wouldn't even charge NCCC a penny :)
Skid August 14th, 2006, 12:42 PM This is the side of the ground which is going to be redeveloped next, adding an extra 3000 seats which will make the total capacity at Trent Bridge 19000. I don't know anymore about what the new stand will look like, it was just mentioned by Ritchie Benau in an interview in the local paper recently.
LeedsLad March 14th, 2008, 02:19 AM Carnegie Pavilion
Yorkshire have unveiled plans for a new media & corporate pavilion stand at Headingley Carnegie, in partnership with Leeds Met Caregie. No real addition to capacity as far as I am aware, but provision of 1st class corporate and media facilities in a landmark north stand.
http://www.yorkshireccc.com/grounds/the_carnegie_pavilion_development/index.html
ben77 March 14th, 2008, 08:04 PM Looks pretty crazy (in a good way). But i thought the ECB had some sort of quota stating that a certain % of the seating should be covered. Looks like they should be spending some money on a roof aswell.
LeedsLad March 15th, 2008, 03:05 AM The main (South) stand which joins the rugby stadium is all covered - I imagine this is 15-20%
LeedsLad April 29th, 2008, 01:01 AM Updates:
Vid of revent AGM discussion of pavilion http://www.yorkshireccc.com/wrtv/media/581495718/index.html
Here's some of the images:
http://www.yorkshireccc.com/cms_media/images/img_5416.jpeg
http://www.yorkshireccc.com/cms_media/images/img_5414.jpeg
http://www.yorkshireccc.com/cms_media/images/img_5420.jpeg
Courtesy of Yorkshire County Cricket Club
BeestonLad April 29th, 2008, 10:53 AM Awful!
marrio415 April 29th, 2008, 03:52 PM Awful!
i agree
IHaveNoLegs April 30th, 2008, 12:48 PM would be cool but the that green exterior just ruins it
Stefan88 May 20th, 2008, 04:27 AM I live a 30 second walk from this ground and have never once noticed the new stand. :doh:
CharlieP May 24th, 2008, 04:40 PM In this photo:
http://www.yorkshireccc.com/cms_media/images/img_5416.jpeg
and in the plan on the second page of this PDF (http://www.yorkshireccc.com/cms_media/files/1312_exhibition_leaflet_dr3.pdf), you can see how rows of seating in the Western Terrace start progressively further back as you move north, due to the slope (the first row next to the sightscreen is on the same level as row 10 next to the football stand), and also that the boundary line is quite some way from the seats in the north-west corner (especially so in the PDF).
I read yesterday that Headingley is to get a completely new outfield:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/counties/yorkshire/7416370.stm
Will this mean levelling the slope slightly, giving the opportunity to add some of the "missing" rows in this part of the ground?
LeedsLad September 5th, 2008, 01:28 AM Confirmation (& render) here: http://www.yorkshireccc.com/archive/new_carnegie_pavilion_proposal_to_secure/index.html
5 floors tall, surpassing Test match criteria
Work starting November and completion 2010
Press conference date announced on Monday
As for the Main Stand, this has been delayed until after the completion of the Pavilion - since it is jointly owned, and the Cricket Club couldn't rebuild 2 stands at once...
Just a little update...
Jaeger September 5th, 2008, 03:50 PM New Headingley pavilion given go-ahead
http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5h6aQT_ndtATxOc5fUBBybYhdy2FA
Yorkshire have received final planning approval for their new £17million Carnegie Pavilion at Headingley.
Construction of the five-storey building, a joint project with Leeds Metropolitan University, will now begin in November.
Yorkshire chief executive Stewart Regan said: "This is fantastic news for the club, its members, players and partners."
He added: "The Carnegie Pavilion, when completed, will become the single most-viewed building in Yorkshire, seen by some 500million people on TV during international cricket events. We are confident it will become a landmark building for the city of Leeds."
The building will continue the significant redevelopment undergone at the ground in recent years and boost considerably its long-term prospects of hosting international cricket.
The existing Wintershed end of the ground will be demolished to make way for the new structure, which will contain a media centre and hospitality facilities.
Outside of major cricket events they will be used as university lecture theatres and teaching rooms.
Leeds City councillors had been expected to approve the scheme last month but that was delayed until this week while plans were finalised.
Construction is expected to be completed by 2010.
Jaeger September 5th, 2008, 09:00 PM Also Durham have announced a major redevelopment today which will take permanent capacity up to 20,000 and see a new hotel and conference facilities built, and also a new scoreboard system.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/7600227.stm
LeedsLad October 10th, 2008, 08:24 PM The South Stand of the Rugby side looks next for redevelopment:
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leeds-rhinos-news/South-Stand-future-in-focus.4579162.jp
South Stand future in focus
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By Peter Smith
The days of Headingley Carnegie Stadium's famous South Stand appear to be numbered.
Leeds Rugby chief executive Gary Hetherington today confirmed the club are looking to replace the massive structure, which is currently partially closed because of safety concerns.
Hetherington insisted any new stand is likely to include at least some standing accommodation though a two-tier building, similar to the new Carnegie Stand, is also a possibility.
The front half of the South Stand was closed for Leeds Rhinos' engage Super League final eliminator against Wigan Warriors two weeks ago, after safety checks revealed concerns over the state of some of the terracing.
Load testing is now being carried out and Hetherington said: "That will determine what needs to be done.
"Our expectation is that some work will need to be done and we would like to start that as soon as possible and have the work completed before Christmas."
But Hetherington admitted the viability of the South Stand is now in doubt.
He said: "We are awaiting the results of the testing, but what it has also done is focus our attention on long-term plans for the South Stand.
"It has always been our vision to replace the South Stand, which is now an aging facility, nearly 70 years old.
"What the Carnegie Stand has done, with its range of amenities and with how popular that has proved to be, is reinforce to us and our fans that we need to significantly improve the quality of our facilities.
"It is not just the terracing, it is all the spectator comforts and amenities: toilets, the health and safety aspect, the ability to be able to provide food and so in a comfortable, friendly environment – the whole range.
"The Carnegie Stand provides all that and it's what spectators want and expect in the modern age."
The Carnegie Stand, opened in 2006 and funded by Leeds Metropolitan University, includes an upper deck of seating, with terracing at ground level.
It also boasts a cafe, restaurant and classrooms, which are used by Leeds Met students during the week.
Plans to alter the character of the South Stand would cause an outcry among fans and Hetherington insisted that is not the intention.
"We fully appreciate the uniqueness of the South Stand and what a terrific atmosphere is created by all those who go in there," he said. "We don't want to diminish that in any way.
"It is currently, we understand, the largest covered terrace in the world and clearly we need to retain that, but we also need to try and find some way of improving it and providing a range of amenities and facilities that are better than they are now.
"We are always keen to hear our fans' views, particularly those who use the South Stand, but I would expect that in any survey we did the fans would wish to retain it as a standing terrace.
"There could be the option, for example, of doing something similar to the Carnegie Stand, which provides terracing and seats.
"The third option would be all-seating, but I would expect our fans would want to retain the terrace."
Hetherington said the club don't have a time scale for when work could begin on a new stand and plans have not yet been drawn up, but he confirmed they are now looking at ways of funding the work.
The full article contains 571 words and appears in EP Leeds First & County newspaper.Page 1 of 1
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TSRJames October 20th, 2008, 11:34 AM I think that if it's done well this could be a great looking development, although i'm not sure about the green exterior. However, i just hope that it doesn't just become an architect/developers 'play-thing' and they build this and ruin another historic building/venue in the country.
LeedsLad January 16th, 2009, 11:56 PM I can go one better http://www.yorkshireccc.com/wrtv/media/1136120307/index.html
Demolition well under way on the Cricket Pavilion now
CharlieP March 19th, 2009, 11:57 AM I read yesterday that Headingley is to get a completely new outfield:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/counties/yorkshire/7416370.stm
Will this mean levelling the slope slightly, giving the opportunity to add some of the "missing" rows in this part of the ground?
Looks like my guess was right:
http://www.yorkshireccc.com/archive/carnegie_pavilion_gets_final_go_ahead/index.html
"New permanent seating will be added to replace those seats lost on the top tier of the Winter Shed Stand which has now been demolished. This has been achieved by utilising the space generated from the lowering of the outfield."
Gherkin March 19th, 2009, 02:24 PM More pictures on Alsop's website (if you can find it!)
http://www.alsoparchitects.com/
Noostairz July 20th, 2009, 06:50 PM http://*************************/leeds/jpgs/carnegie_pavilion_sr290408_1.jpg
http://www.leisureopportunities.co.uk/images/091208-headingley.gif
http://www.yorkshireccc.com/cms_media/images/310x620_fitbox-th1_186200852pavilion.jpg
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7118/headingleystadiumbz9.jpg
:)
Toadboy July 20th, 2009, 08:12 PM Knock them houses down and build a horseshoe.
Immunda Leodis July 20th, 2009, 08:28 PM Knock them houses down and build a horseshoe.
They're not houses, they're hotels / B&Bs and will be worth an absolute fortune in that part of Leeds.
Toadboy July 20th, 2009, 09:11 PM Knock them hotels/B&Bs down and build a horseshoe.
Immunda Leodis July 21st, 2009, 12:37 AM Knock them hotels/B&Bs down and build a horseshoe.
It'd be a great idea but horrendously expensive and as the ground will only ever be filled for Test matches and possibly for Yorks Vs L*ncs I doubt it's financially viable sadly.
Immunda Leodis August 3rd, 2009, 03:16 PM Flythrough video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQymEkaO1y8
Gherkin August 3rd, 2009, 03:22 PM ^^
Kudos to Alsop for designing furniture to match the exterior... but it's still looking a bit architecture school, a bit immature, yet not looking as fun as some of his other work.
oQymEkaO1y8
CharlieP August 3rd, 2009, 03:33 PM Words cannot express how horrifically ugly I think the new pavilion is. The people inside have the best view, as they don't have to look at a giant green turd.
Noostairz August 3rd, 2009, 05:32 PM cheap plastic bogey. generally traditional and conservative sporting institutions choosing to build outlandish extensions (headingley, old trafford) = instantly-recognisable "brand" for the tv?
"ah, the cheap plastic bogey, that'll be headingley"
"the wine gums stadium - it's old trafford"
Zim Flyer August 3rd, 2009, 05:43 PM It's the new roses Derby match, who has the worst cricket stands!
BeestonLad August 3rd, 2009, 08:10 PM Woah thats shite! So we'll have Lords, The Oval, Edgbaston and Trent Bridge all as perfect examples of how to develop a cricket ground with Old Trafford, Headingley and Sophia Gardens showing how not to do it. I must say this is probably the worst of the lot though :ohno:
ben77 August 4th, 2009, 11:34 AM I know this is an architectural forum but whats with all of the shit furniture aswell..
Immunda Leodis August 4th, 2009, 08:03 PM I've seen a sample of the cladding 'in the flesh' and I liked it. I'm not 100% sure how it's going to turn out though. When I first saw the designs I loved it but now I'm not so sure. I'm trying to remain positive but at present the best things I can say about it is it's 'unique' and that it's a 'daring statement'. I think that YCCC have admitted that they wanted something recognisable and to scream 'look at me'. Whether they've done this the right way remains to be seen...
Bradley Hardacre August 5th, 2009, 11:54 PM My thought processes on this were the opposite. When I first saw the plans I thought it was a complete crock of shit. As time has gone on I've warmed to it more but without being really convinced.
Yorkshire have suffered from decades of being run by a bunch of amateurs who were more focused on fighting amongst themselves than anything else. Finally, in the last few years, the club has finally focussed on making some progress (off the field, anyway) but other clubs have stolen a march on us.
The ground always gets a terrible press. A raucus Edgbaston is described as "atmospheric" while Headingley is "loutish" or "rowdy", foe example. While there is some justification given the behaviour of some idiots, the state of the facilities for the media does play a part. Put them in tatty accommodation and they're not likely to start out on your side. For that reason, the new pavillion should help Headingley's cause in future. Such a shame it isn't ready for the showpiece occasion, but too much to expect YCCC to get everything right after years of doing absolutely nothing right.
The capacity issue will need some serious thought. Redeveloping the rugby stand is the next project but this will only just take the capacity over 20,000. Other grounds (Old Trafford, Edgbaston, Rose Bowl) are looking at 25,000.
Noostairz August 25th, 2009, 05:44 PM w/ thanks to the leeds section:
new renders (looks better here):
http://www.riotdesign.co.uk/images/work/fullRes/Carnegie/image02.jpg
http://www.riotdesign.co.uk/images/work/fullRes/Carnegie/image01.jpg
construction update:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3669/21082009069.jpg
Leeds No.1 August 25th, 2009, 07:43 PM I think it looks quite good there, but I hope that the green panels are extended around the whole stadium facade in the future.
di Livio August 25th, 2009, 07:56 PM I think Alsop's design will be mullered by the London press. It goes against the persistent stereotyping of Yorkshire as being a backward, anti-modern place, so therefore they'll shoot it down for being a failed or even 'embarrassing' attempt to be modern.
Immunda Leodis August 25th, 2009, 08:57 PM I think Alsop's design will be mullered by the London press. It goes against the persistent stereotyping of Yorkshire as being a backward, anti-modern place, so therefore they'll shoot it down for being a failed or even 'embarrassing' attempt to be modern.
They might not even notice to be fair as we're outside the M25. Or, on the other hand, maybe they'll send their 'North of England' correspondent to rip it to peices. :lol:
Leeds No.1 August 25th, 2009, 09:16 PM I think Alsop's design will be mullered by the London press. It goes against the persistent stereotyping of Yorkshire as being a backward, anti-modern place, so therefore they'll shoot it down for being a failed or even 'embarrassing' attempt to be modern.
I don't think people see major cities as belonging to counties. Obviously Leeds is in Yorkshire, but when you think of Leeds you don't think of Yorkshire. I think people see cities as just standalone cities and rarely associate them with the county. Major cities are often very different from the rest of their county- Leeds is definitely different from the rest of West Yorkshire.
Cities and counties are seen separately- you think of Yorkshire and think of the Dales, York etc and compare it to other counties with their traditional towns. Similarly you think of Leeds and compare it to other major cities.
I think people are far more likely to see Leeds as a 'northern' city with all the connotations of 'northern' rather than 'Yorkshire'.
sunbeams August 30th, 2009, 06:39 PM This is pretty good. It's a needed facility but Headingley needs a lot of work to bring it up to standard.
The Oval starts work in 15 months time and OT and Edgbaston are also pressing on.
http://www.britoval.com/news/brit-oval-redevelopment-plans-get-green-light
http://www.edgbaston.com/venue/grounddevelopment/
http://www.lccc.co.uk/msites.php?p=news&id=2380
Trent Bridge too are likely to propose a new stand sometime next year.
Bradley Hardacre December 8th, 2009, 06:00 PM A story on the YCCC website that the enclosure in front of the new pavilion is to be named after Fred Trueman. The story also has a recent photo of the development showing the supports for the roofing panels in place.
http://www.yorkshireccc.com/archive/trueman_enclosure_to_sit_proudly/index.html
Trueman Enclosure to sit proudly in front of Carnegie Pavilion
http://www.yorkshireccc.com/cms_media/images/310x620_fitbox-fred_trueman_enclosure.jpeg
The Trueman Enclosure (marked in red on this
photograph will sit proudly beneath the new Carnegie
Pavilion when it is officially opened in June 2010 and
will be a permanent reminder of one of Yorkshire
cricket's true greats.
http://www.yorkshireccc.com/cms_media/images/310x620_fitbox-972978_1_2.jpg
Frederick Sewards Trueman (1931-2006) will be forever remembered at Headingley Carnegie Cricket Ground
The topping out ceremony for the new Carnegie Pavilion took place on Tuesday 8th December and provided Yorkshire cricket with the opportunity to look forward to the future with excitement, but the club is also keen to ensure it remembers its illustrious past too.
When the Pavilion is unveiled to the world next summer the old Wintershed Lower Stand which will sit in front of the new five tier structure will bear the name of one of Yorkshire cricket’s favourite sons.
When Fred Trueman died in July 2006 the club stated it would find a fitting way to remember one of the greatest fast bowlers the sport has ever seen. The seating area in front of the Carnegie Pavilion will be officially named The Trueman Enclosure, keeping the name, achievements and memory of one of Yorkshire cricket’s most famous players at the forefront of everyone’s minds.
The county of Yorkshire is known the world over as a hotbed of cricket and the Yorkshire public are some of the most passionate fans in the world. Young Yorkshire men have always been desperate to don the White Rose and turn out for their beloved Yorkshire County Cricket Club. One of the main reasons for the club’s success on the field in the 1950’s and 60’s, and the single biggest reason for young Yorkshire lads trying to bowl as fast as they could, was Fred Trueman. Fred was an inspiration, a hero and a role model to countless Yorkshire folk during his time at the Club and his legend lives on.
Yorkshire cricket is better for Fred Trueman being born just inside its borders and the club is as proud of Fred as he was of being from this great county. He represented both Yorkshire CCC and England with pride and passion all around the world and he put his heart and soul into his performances on the field.
Stewart Regan, Yorkshire CCC Chief Executive, said: “Fred is sadly missed, the club will never forget his outstanding achievements for both Yorkshire and England and now The Trueman Enclosure is to be part of Headingley Carnegie Cricket Ground it will further ensure that his memory lives on.” Veronica Trueman, Fred’s widow, attended the Topping Out Ceremony for the Carnegie Pavilion and was visibly thrilled that Fred was being honoured in this way. She said: “I am delighted that the Club has taken this step to remember Fred and give him a lasting legacy. He would have been deeply moved and honoured to have a key part of the ground named after him. It is a fitting tribute and I hope it will inspire the young Yorkshire fast bowlers of the future to run down the hill from The Trueman Enclosure and take lots of wickets.”
RMB2007 April 26th, 2010, 12:28 AM http://i40.tinypic.com/15p4bqa.jpg
The Hunted April 26th, 2010, 01:33 AM I like it, but it doesn't fit in with the other stands.............well, not until they rebuild the rest of the stadium or at least get rid of those shitty blue seats.
Goat Rope April 26th, 2010, 04:27 PM The green structure on the roof and sides is quite cool but the rest of it's pretty hideous, in my opinion. Sorry, but yet again I that a far better job could have been done.
BeestonLad April 26th, 2010, 04:56 PM The green glazing looks very cheap and nasty. All in all its just an odd structure which doesn't really add much to the stadium
ben77 April 26th, 2010, 05:48 PM I like it externally but it looks very odd from the front...
CharlieP April 26th, 2010, 09:02 PM I saw it in the flesh on Saturday, and still think it looks pretty horrible.
moseeds April 27th, 2010, 01:39 AM Whoa that looks pretty bad from the picture. Normally sunshine makes crap buildings look decent. This structure looks unfinished.
Gherkin April 28th, 2010, 03:16 PM ^^ It was unfinished when that photo was taken! I think it's finished now though/
some new ones on flickr:
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/awaren8/headingley2.jpg
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/awaren8/headingley3.jpg
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/awaren8/headingley1.jpg
BeestonLad April 28th, 2010, 04:57 PM wow it must have added at least 5 or 6 hundred seats there :ohno:
Fluff April 28th, 2010, 06:20 PM It looks like a cross between the old TV Test Card, and the Granada Television Studios
Fluff April 28th, 2010, 06:24 PM http://www.stevelarkins.freeuk.com/images/testcards/Testcard_G_PM5544_KSL.JPG
&
http://www.g7uk.com/day/0702/granada-studios-quay-street-manchester-2007-384-01.jpg
Gherkin April 29th, 2010, 12:40 AM It looks like PsOne graphics trying to attempt a sophisticated curve. I quite like it. If it was built in the 60s it'd be labelled 'retro' nowadays.
Fluff April 29th, 2010, 05:13 PM Even the actual signage is 1960s.
And guess what, in 10 years time we'll be tutting and saying how the hell was this allowed to be built.
dgnr8 May 8th, 2010, 02:56 PM Personally I love it. Pissed off with the apparent value engineering, which ruins everything Alsop proposes (this is Alsop isn't it?), but it's refreshingly different and adds a classy bit of umph to this small corner of Headingley.
Steel City Suburb May 9th, 2010, 12:19 PM For me - Leeds fails. Again.
Agent Vengence May 10th, 2010, 07:35 PM sweet jesus what the hell is that
RichJay July 11th, 2010, 11:53 AM The new pavilion was officially opened last Sunday before the T20 game against Warwickshire
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4764853306_f91b20780d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richjay/4764853306/)
CorliCorso July 12th, 2010, 03:32 AM Good god... and people will have to look at that for the next hundred years?
sam the man July 14th, 2010, 01:57 PM Oh dear! Had my reservations when I saw it on the drawing board, now been confirmed. What were they thinking. Overdesigned. When will architects learn that sometimes beauty can come from size, scale, repetition and simplicity when it comes to stadium design. That glazing looks like a 1960's school. As for that roof!!!! Looks ugly and covers nobody. I give it 20 years before they replace that or relocate!
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