Izačić border crossing finally open !

This is the new border crossing thats been oppened today between Bosnia & Herzegovina and Croatia..Its by far the biggest one and the most modern in South-Eastern Europe..
Bosnia & Herzegovina and the World Bank financed it 50:50,and all works on the Crossing cost approx 7 milion €..

http://www.ingplast.com/galluprostoru/big/04.jpg

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http://www.ingplast.com/galluprostoru/big/06.jpg

http://www.ingplast.com/galluprostoru/big/07.jpg

http://www.ingplast.com/galluprostoru/big/09.jpg

Wow, the architecture looks nice, but are you sure it's the biggest in Southeastern Europe? It doesn't look THAT big..

it is not the largest. the largest are on european coridor 10 (Fernetti/Fernetiči I-SLO, Obrežje/Bregana SLO-HR, Bajakovo/Batrovci HR-SCG, DImitrovgrad/Dragoman SCG-BG, Svilengrad/Edirne BG-TK). Also, Spielfeld/Šentilj A-SLO, Horgoš H-SCG or Letenye/Goričan H-HR are larger. It is just one of bigger between Croatia and BIH. Maybe on the Bosnian side it is the biggest, but I know that for instance Okučani is similar size (but on Bosnian side it is much smaller). Anyway, hanging roof looks very nice!

^ It's also the first one where both officials will be working together. Croatian and Bosnian officials will share all the work, work in the same building, etc. That's the first type of it's kind on a federal level in Bosnia-Herzegovina, and between Croatia and BiH.

Where is this border crossing - what part of 'Kifla' ? :D
Is there a map available ? :)

:cheers:

Hey they said in the newspapers that its the biggest,and it is the biggest full stop bitches !! :D

Ja sam pola sata razbij'o glavu otkud onaj Ahmed Hadžipašić, premijer Federacije, na otvaranju graničnog prelaza između BiH i Hrvatske...a onda sam se sjetio da i Federacija ima granični pojas sa Hrvatskom. Sve mislim: "Da nije u Brčkom...ma neee, Brčko je distrikt, šta će on tamo. Da nisu probili neki koridor? Ma nisu, znao bih. Da nije tamo kod Novog Grada? Ma neee..." ;)

Anyway, I watched this on News in 7.30h too, but they didn't show any videos. It looks nice, or to say, interesting :okay:

I like the architecture a lot. It looks almost like a suspension bridge with the hanging roof. :yes:

Like your Quotes, Mimica, lol,

Leisure without literature is death, or rather the burial of a living man.----Seneca
There is no great genius without madness.) -- Seneca
Often the prickly thorn produces tender roses - Ovid
He who is not prepared today will be less so tomorrow- Ovid
No wise man ever thought that a traitor should be trusted - Marcus Tullius Cicero
Punishment closely follows crime as its companion - Quintus Horatius Flaccus
You cling to your own ways and leave mine to me - Petrarch
Even one hair has a shadow - Publilius Syrus


Here is one of mine,
Pro vos efficio permoveo velox vos fui perceptum ambulo - Mic Of Orion,

dialogue of equals often leads to stalemate, dialogue of un-equal often leads to wars... - Mic Of Orion


Whilst we are at Quotes, lol, Herodotus had great many Quotes, and bella! Horrida bella was one of his more controversial, cose he wasn't known for being pacifist of his days, lol...

BTW, nice border crossing, lol :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

^ Mike, i am impressed you are able to translate those quotes without using a dictionary :D

Ehh, since no one has really bothered to answer my question, lemme guess then....the landscape looks like this could be somewhere in Hercegovina, right? When you cross the border, are you on your way to Metkovic in Croatia, or i am talking about Vinjani Donji lol ? :)

:cheers:

It always has struck me as fascinating the issue of borders within a formerly unified state.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2027/dsc0016ud.jpg

good job bosnia :) i like it

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2027/dsc0016ud.jpg

I see, thanks Sarajka (Medjimurka :D) :)
Looks to me it is pretty close to Bihac in BiH, i hope i am not wrong again :D

:cheers:

^ Mike, i am impressed you are able to translate those quotes without using a dictionary :D

Ehh, since no one has really bothered to answer my question, lemme guess then....the landscape looks like this could be somewhere in Hercegovina, right? When you cross the border, are you on your way to Metkovic in Croatia, or i am talking about Vinjani Donji lol ? :)

:cheers:


lol, you can't Google with no Goolging, lol... What would be world without Google, lol...

I knew most of those Quotes, whilst studding History of course, lol...

I came with quite few of my own, lol... :) :)

Ex cinis cineris nos orior oriri ortus , ad astrum nos vado

Scientia est crepidoinis est civilization Quam vos utor is scientia est crepidoinis of valde consortio

Crepidoinis of ullus consortio es suus populus

looks nice but very tiny and soon Croatia won't need them anymore :) :cheers:, Question to Slovenians if you travel by car to EU do you need to have your passports?

I see, thanks Sarajka (Medjimurka :D) :)
Looks to me it is pretty close to Bihac in BiH, i hope i am not wrong again :D

:cheers:
Heheh Izačić is like a suburb of Bihać ;)

Ja sam pola sata razbij'o glavu otkud onaj Ahmed Hadžipašić, premijer Federacije, na otvaranju graničnog prelaza između BiH i Hrvatske...a onda sam se sjetio da i Federacija ima granični pojas sa Hrvatskom. Sve mislim: "Da nije u Brčkom...ma neee, Brčko je distrikt, šta će on tamo. Da nisu probili neki koridor? Ma nisu, znao bih. Da nije tamo kod Novog Grada? Ma neee..." ;)

Anyway, I watched this on News in 7.30h too, but they didn't show any videos. It looks nice, or to say, interesting :okay:
hahahha good God :lol:

looks nice but very tiny and soon Croatia won't need them anymore :) :cheers:, Question to Slovenians if you travel by car to EU do you need to have your passports?
Nope. You only need to have some sort of ID, but it doesn't have to be a passport. Same goes for any other form of transport as well.

looks nice but very tiny and soon Croatia won't need them anymore :) :cheers:, Question to Slovenians if you travel by car to EU do you need to have your passports?


:sleepy:

looks nice but very tiny and soon Croatia won't need them anymore :) :cheers:, Question to Slovenians if you travel by car to EU do you need to have your passports?

This border is between Croatia and Bosnia, though - not Croatia and Slovenia. When Croatia joins the EU, which will be ahead of BiH assuming Gotovina is handed over, it will need even more infrastructure put into place along it's border with BiH.

^ however, that aint gonna happen. Croatia and BiH will most likely join EU at the same time - hopefuly in 10-15 years. :)

:cheers:

^ however, that aint gonna happen. Croatia and BiH will most likely join EU at the same time - hopefuly in 10-15 years. :)

:cheers:


I agree. :yes:

You agree or you hope so ? It's different :D

:cheers:

You agree or you hope so ? It's different :D

:cheers:


Agree :)

^ however, that aint gonna happen. Croatia and BiH will most likely join EU at the same time - hopefuly in 10-15 years. :)

:cheers:

:lol:

You agree or you hope so ? It's different :D

:cheers:

It'd be nice. :)

Croatia will join EU in 2008 or 2009, trust me on that BBCH, and I already posted my reply to your pessimistic question in Croatian Threads, Unless Croats say no the EU on referendum about membership, this is quite possible looking at the latest opinion polls... Croatia is already privileged as far to say it has Association status with EU, Croats don't need passport to enter EU unless they work in EU and nearly 30 000 Croats work in Italy (Primarily in Veneto Regia - Pendelari) and are never considered illegal workers despite working in Italy with no work permits, this was the case for Slovenian workers as well... Also you need take it as a fact, anyway read my reply to your massage in Croatian Threads...

As to other countries EU ambitions, I already mentioned Bosnia might make it in 2018, sorry there wont be expansion in 2015, next one is 2017 or 2018, And it is very likely Macedonia will join individually, yes BBCH, it is no longer group entry as you think, If Bosnia meets all the criteria they can join even in 2012/15, Primary reason for this is that6 group entry was bad idea on EU budget...

When Romania joins in 2008 they going to apply for many structural loans to meet the convergence criteria, we are not even talking about rest of Balkans which need loads of money to repair war damage and so on... It is likely no more group entries in to EU after Romania/Bulgaria and possibly Croatia get in 2008...

Croatian infrastructure requires little if any upgrade primarily railways rest is in quite good shape, but rest of Balkans this include Bulgaria and Romania will require substantial amount of investment to bring there infrastructure to the EU level...

Anyways, why are you so pessimistic, I don't understand?

Croats don't need passport to enter EU unless they work in EU and nearly 30 000 Croats work in Italy (Primarily in Veneto Regia - Pendelari) and are never considered illegal workers despite working in Italy with no work permits, this was the case for Slovenian workers as well... Also you need take it as a fact, anyway read my reply to your massage in Croatian Threads...

Croatian citizens do require passports to enter EU (but no visas), except for Hungary, Slovenia and Italy (soon Austria, too), we can enter these countries with a national ID card.

Yes BBCH, it is no longer group entry as you think, If Bosnia meets all the criteria they can join even in 2012/15, Primary reason for this is that6 group entry was bad idea on EU budget...

Eh, Mike, no longer group entry? Then why do you think the 'Western Balkans' group was formed in Brussel in 1998? What was that for? ;)

It is likely no more group entries in to EU after Romania/Bulgaria and possibly Croatia get in 2008...

Wait, you just said somewhere above 'no more group entries' ;)
You also keep forgetting that EU is not an economic union only, if it was, Croatia would've been in it already.

Anyways, why are you so pessimistic, I don't understand?

Nooo, not pessimistic at all.
But you have to admit Croatia and BiH are two bodies with one soul :hug: :)

:cheers:

Croatian citizens do require passports to enter EU (but no visas), except for Hungary, Slovenia and Italy (soon Austria, too), we can enter these countries with a national ID card.



Eh, Mike, no longer group entry? Then why do you think the 'Western Balkans' group was formed in Brussel in 1998? What was that for? ;)



Wait, you just said somewhere above 'no more group entries' ;)
You also keep forgetting that EU is not an economic union only, if it was, Croatia would've been in it already.



Nooo, not pessimistic at all.
But you have to admit Croatia and BiH are two bodies with one soul :hug: :)

:cheers:


OK BBCH, I am not about to give you lectures in History and EU bodies, you have internet and do the reading, I am sure you are aware it was formed when Tudjaman was still Alive and running Croatia as his little kingdom...

Croatia is negotiation on its own, but to give you exactly what this directive is all about, here it goes:

The programmes wider objective is to support the participation of the countries of the Western Balkans (Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Serbia, Montenegro and the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) in the Stabilisation and Association Process (SAp)
The Stabilisation and Association process is the cornerstone of the European Union's policy towards the region. It seeks to promote stability within the region whilst also facilitating closer association with the European Union. A key element of the SAp, for countries that have made sufficient progress in terms of political and economic reform and administrative capacity, is a formal contractual relationship with EU in the form of a Stabilisation and Association Agreement. The SAp is designed to help each country to progress at its own pace towards greater European integration.
Through the programme € 4.6 billion will be provided to this region in the period 2000 to 2006 for investment, institution-building, and other measures to achieve four main objectives:
reconstruction, democratic stabilisation, reconciliation and the return of refugees
institutional and legislative development, including harmonisation with European Union norms and approaches, to underpin democracy and the rule of law, human rights, civil society and the media, and the operation of a free market economy
sustainable economic and social development, including structural reform
promotion of closer relations and regional cooperation among countries and between them, the EU and the candidate countries of central Europe.

Since early 2005 the Directorate-General Enlargement has been responsible for managing all relations with the countries of the Western Balkans. This includes political relations and the development and management of the CARDS programme.
European Union assistance in Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croatia managed by the European Union's Delegations in those countries. The European Agency for Reconstruction (Council regulation No 2667/2000-05/12/200) is responsible for assistance in Serbia and Montenegro, and the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. The EuropeAid Co-operation Office manages all regional programmes.


Enlargement:

The European Union successfully grew from 6 to 25 members. Bulgaria and Romania are expected to join in 2007. Croatia and Turkey are candidate countries with whom accession negotiations have not yet started.




In order to join the Union, they need to fulfil the economic and political conditions known as the 'Copenhagen criteria', according to which a prospective member must:
be a stable democracy, respecting human rights, the rule of law, and the protection of minorities;
have a functioning market economy;
adopt the common rules, standards and policies that make up the body of EU law.

The EU assists these countries in taking on EU laws, and provides a range of financial assistance to improve their infrastructure and economy.

The Stabilisation and Association process (SAP) for the Western Balkans
The Stabilisation and Association process (SAP) is the EU’s policy framework for the Western Balkan countries: Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and Serbia and Montenegro, including Kosovo (as defined by the UN Security Council Resolution 1244). Croatia, which has been granted candidate country status, remains part of the process. The SAP will remain the EU policy for the Western Balkans all the way to membership.
The EU involvement in the Western Balkans is a long-term process. The engagement is on a number of levels: strategic and political, holding out the prospect of EU membership to all the countries of the region, through the Stabilisation and Association process; institutional, to build up the capacity of the countries in the region enabling them to adopt European


http://europa.eu.int/comm/enlargement/enlargement.htm

I bet in Encyclopedia Britannica under "Optimist", they got Mike's photo;)
Also...."delusional":D j/k

Hey MIC i hope youre happy,cuz Croatia will from today on 100% join the European Union BEFORE and WITHOUT Bosnia & Herzegovina..

^lol wait and ce,, lol

Well, even if Croatia does join in 2008/2009 (only possible if the negotiations start before the end of 2005 IMO), that doesn't mean they will join the Schengen zone when they join the EU, but still, I say that if they join in 2008, they could implement it by 2010. And then the new border crossing with Bosnia will save them some money, as the whole border infrastructure will have to be thouroughly upgraded. That is, if the crossing was built by Schengen standards.

Heh, on a side note, I'm looking forward to 2008, when SIS 2 (the new Schengen information system) will be finished and Slovenia (with the rest of the new members and Switzerland) will be able to join the Schengen zone.

My €0.02.. ;)

Hey MIC i hope youre happy,cuz Croatia will from today on 100% join the European Union BEFORE and WITHOUT Bosnia & Herzegovina..

Oh come on dude, cheer up and head up lol. Mike is just expressing his views, which may be true, and also may be true not. we'll see soon, in about two weeks, what Carlos del Pontiac is gonna say :D

:cheers:

Hmm, interesting border..:)

Oh come on dude, cheer up and head up lol. Mike is just expressing his views, which may be true, and also may be true not. we'll see soon, in about two weeks, what Carlos del Pontiac is gonna say :D

:cheers:
ehheh thanks,i honestly hope that del Pontiacova will say smthin positive for Croatia ;)
cuz Bosnia & Herzegovina is already screwed by Repubika Srpska,and the earliest period to start the negotiations about STABILISATION AND JOINING ( :sleepy: ) is end 2007,instead of november 2005 :cry:

ehheh thanks,i honestly hope that del Pontiacova will say smthin positive for Croatia ;)
cuz Bosnia & Herzegovina is already screwed by Repubika Srpska,and the earliest period to start the negotiations about STABILISATION AND JOINING ( :sleepy: ) is end 2007,instead of november 2005 :cry:

That's why they're going to let the Federation join first, sort of like Cyprus. ;)

ehheh thanks,i honestly hope that del Pontiacova will say smthin positive for Croatia ;)


Yup, i am sure he/she is going to say something positive: "Croatia has prospered in cooperation with ICTY, but.......... (jebiga)" :D

:cheers:

"del Pontiacova" didn't say anything so far, but her superior, Havier Solana did:D

Solana: SiCG surađuje sa Haaškim sudom puno bolje od Hrvatske

Visoki predstavnik EU-a Javier Solana o suradnji Hrvatske s Haaškim sudom rekao je: "Što se tiče suradnje s Haaškim sudom, stajalište Europske unije je poznato, te da primjerice, u slučaju Hrvatske zbog nedovoljne suradnje nismo započeli pristupne pregovore" pritom je dodao da je Srbija u posljednje vrijeme mnogo bolje surađivala sa Tribunalom od Hrvatske. Solana je cijelu situaciju na jugoistoku Europe sažeo ovako: "Započinjemo, ako to smijem reći, akademsku godinu, od danas pa do idućeg ljeta - ta godina bit će vrlo važna za Balkan, važna sa proces stabilizacije i pridruživanja, važna za Partnerstvo za mir, važna za Kosovu oko pitanja da li će se započeti s pregovorima o konačnom statusu. I svatko u tom procesu mora nositi svoju odgovornost, jer razdoblje koje sada počinje je od temeljne važnosti za Balkan".

http://www.nacional.hr/articles/view/20415/

^^ You are making fun of Mic's optimism, and at the same time you are reading Nacional :lol:

btw, less than two weeks until the final decision, until then everything is just a big 'rekla - kazala' ;) :D

:cheers:

lol, have I sparked some convo here, lol, making fun of me, who, how dare you, lmao, :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :booze: :booze: :laugh: :laugh: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :banana: :banana: :grouphug: :pepper: :pepper: :banana2: :banana2: :grouphug: :)

That's why they're going to let the Federation join first, sort of like Cyprus. ;)
Heheh we all know that its not gonna happend :bash: cuz RS & FBiH are 1 country,and Cyprus isnt...
As much as i was happy knowing that it wont happend,i now regret it,and Sarajka,iz tvojih usta u božije uši,jer su RS-ovci sa ovim zakonom o policije žešće zasrali stvar :rant: :sleepy:

^ No the Cyprus scenario is impossible goes against the present EU policy in BiH. The most likly outcome of a RS no would be that EU funds would be cut to the region of BiH and redirected towards FBiH. Maybe some international investment will slow down. If we look at Turkish Cyprus the problem they have is that investment is not going in and no recognition anywhere just makes it hard for them. But lets wait and see what developments occur in a week or so then we will all know what awaits BiH in the future.

Heheh we all know that its not gonna happend :bash: cuz RS & FBiH are 1 country,and Cyprus isnt...

...

jer su RS-ovci sa ovim zakonom o policije žešće zasrali stvar :rant: :sleepy:

Nije Narodna skupština zasrala stvar što je odbila jednu glupost koju je predložio jedan neviđeni glupan - nažalost premijer Savjeta ministara. Zašto on nije prihvatio prijedlog Narodne skupštine, pa sad ne bi imali ovih problema?

Naposljetku, najlakše je da Pedi Ešdaun nametne zakon, pa da još jednom pokaže u kakvom mi protektoratu živimo.

...



Nije Narodna skupština zasrala stvar što je odbila jednu glupost koju je predložio jedan neviđeni glupan - nažalost premijer Savjeta ministara. Zašto on nije prihvatio prijedlog Narodne skupštine, pa sad ne bi imali ovih problema?

Naposljetku, najlakše je da Pedi Ešdaun nametne zakon, pa da još jednom pokaže u kakvom mi protektoratu živimo.

Šta one 3 tačkice treba da znače :sleepy:

Nije prihvatio prijedlog Narodne skupštine, jer Europska Unija to nije dozvoljavala,jer prijedlog Narodne skupštine ne ispunjava glavna 3 principa restruktuiranja policije BiH po EU standardima :)
A što se tiče Paddya,svaka njemu čast,da njega nije bili bi u PM da prostite :) Kada bi se mogli slagati u svemu onda nam on nebi trebao,ali KOJI GOD zakon se predloži RS-ovcima ne paše,a Bošnjaci i Hrvati se slažu.. I onda se pitaš u kakvom protektoratu živimo :tongue3: :crazy:

^ One tri tačkice znače da se slažem. Ali ako je istima da se naši političari ni o čemu ne mogu dogovoriti, onda postoji bolje rješenje od nametanja zakona, jer ako se već krše osnovni principi demokratije, zašto ih skroz ne prekršiti i zabraniti nacionalističke stranke: Stranku 'demokratske akcije', Srpsku 'demokratsku' stranku i Hrvatsku 'demokratsku' zajednicu?

Što se tiče te reforme policije, ne razumijem se baš u to, ali zar je stvarno neprihvatljivo to da granice policijskih regija ne prelaze entitetske granice? Ovo ne pitam tebe, no one iz te evropske komisije, koji očigledno ne shvataju neke osnovne principe multietničke zemlje kao što je Bosna i Hercegovina.

^ One tri tačkice znače da se slažem. Ali ako je istima da se naši političari ni o čemu ne mogu dogovoriti, onda postoji bolje rješenje od nametanja zakona, jer ako se već krše osnovni principi demokratije, zašto ih skroz ne prekršiti i zabraniti nacionalističke stranke: Stranku 'demokratske akcije', Srpsku 'demokratsku' stranku i Hrvatsku 'demokratsku' zajednicu?

Što se tiče te reforme policije, ne razumijem se baš u to, ali zar je stvarno neprihvatljivo to da granice policijskih regija ne prelaze entitetske granice? Ovo ne pitam tebe, no one iz te evropske komisije, koji očigledno ne shvataju neke osnovne principe multietničke zemlje kao što je Bosna i Hercegovina.

omg totalno se slažem s tobom :uh: i u vezi nacionalističkih stranaka i policije !! a ček jesi kontao policija na nivou države s entitetskim granicama ili ? jer tu se u potpunosti slažem :) ajd sad kad smo ovo riješili ajmo svi na jedan grupnjak :grouphug: ehhee :drunk:
:tyty:

^ Pa ako već mora biti na državnom nivou, neka bude. Ali neka se zna da nekih 5 policijskih regija se nalazi u Srpskoj, ne prelazi entitetsku granicu, i sem državi odgovaraju i entitetu.

Ali džaba nama sve to, nas dvojica bi se lako dogovorili, ali oni papci iz gore pomenutih stranaka ne znaju šta je kompromis. Zaćorili svak svoje i ne popuštaju, a onda se čude kad ih onaj papak lupi po glavi i napiše zakon. E pa kasno je onda...

Nego, previše smo ovo uozbiljili ;)

Since this thread is politicised already... :D

Od strane RS reforma je POTPUNO PRIHVACENA, U SVIM DETALJIMA, samo da regije ne prelaze entitetske granice. Mislim, cudno je kako RS uvek krive za "neefikasnost drzave", "visoke troskove administracije" itd, a RS ima jednu vladu, dok FBiH ima ih 11 (10 zupanijskih i Federacijsku). Osnovni problem BiH je to sto kada bi postala demokratska zemlja(bez raznih stranih okupacijskih snaga, OHRa itd) brzo bi doslo do rata(u najgorem slucaju) ili bi sve vreme bilo utroseno na svadje u parlamentu a ne na napredak zemlje(u najboljem slucaju). It's very complicated as there's no way forward without fucking at least one of the tri naroda
(like this: http://www.nezavisne.com/dnevne/dogadjaji/dog09162005-02.php ) :lol: and so, BiH seems to be utterly fucked for the forseeable future :( Btw, I read in Nezavisne yesterday that Milorad Dodik(http://www.snsd.org/) is the most popular politician in BiH :D

^^ u pravu si i ti ;) heheeh..
ali ne vjerujem da bi baš do rata došlo =/
anyway Milorad Dodik jest najpopularniji političar u BiH i SNSD kao stranka takođe ;)
Živio Milorad ( i meni je lično najbolji ) :master:

^ I ja kontam glasat' za njega na idućim izborima ;)

^ me 2 :D slijedeće godine punim 17 u martu,i stičem pravo za glasanje wohooo :cheer: goo milorad goo milorad :D

^ Kako ćeš glasat' sa 17 majke ti? Sa 18 možeš...bar mislim?

By the way, koji smo mi spammeri u pičku materinu :colgate:

One more Croatia - BiH border crossing ;)

near Neum :

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/286/bihhrvatska9bd.jpg

Josip Broz - dobar skroz :D

:cheers:

Neum is the funniest border crossing in the world, truly...is there anywhere else that happens?

*Driving along, hit the border*
"Oh wow, I'm in Bosnia..."
*Light a smoke, turn on the radio, hit the border*
"Croatia again? But...how?"

:D

Neum is the funniest border crossing in the world, truly...is there anywhere else that happens?


Umm, not that i know of....but only one country had Josip Broz Tito :D :jk:

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They don't actually check at that border do they? Doesn't Croatia have agreement with BiH about that, no checks and Bosnia can use Ploce port or something like that. ;)

They don't actually check at that border do they? Doesn't Croatia have agreement with BiH about that, no checks and Bosnia can use Ploce port or something like that. ;)

If this border crossing and infrastructure built on it werent for checking than it would be considered devastation of the seaside and nature - "urbani ekocid" :D

:cheers:

^^ Like they care... ;)

^ No, they check. But if you're from Herceg Bosna, there's not many formalities. ;)

^ No, they check. But if you're from Herceg Bosna, there's not many formalities. ;)

Herceg Bosna ? :lol:

Does it still officialy exist? :runaway:

:cheers:

^ No, but you know how thinks work here. You can still buy 'BIHAC Glavni Grad' shirts.

^ that sucks , sorry about that :(

^ Kako ćeš glasat' sa 17 majke ti? Sa 18 možeš...bar mislim?
Što da ne, zar ne znaš Izborni zakon b&H :uh: to ste trebali u školi učit,mi smo u osnovnoj na demokratiji i ljudskim pravima to učili :sleepy:

^ No, but you know how thinks work here. You can still buy 'BIHAC Glavni Grad' shirts.
You can ? wherE? :D

You can ? wherE? :D

Sanski Most. :D

^^:lol:

Btw we were few years ago with school in Neum 5 days.. The boarder crossing there looks really cool (the one on water).. the DGS BiH ppl have cool speed boats which say DGS BiH :D hehe

^ Hehehe, yeah, I know! They need them! What with all those Croatian boaters and international tourist yaghts, all the Italian immigrants swimming over, on pieces of cardboard and wood, All those drugs coming in from Montenegro...

I'm telling you. Our coastline is too big and vast, and open, to be guarded by a few Bosnians in speedboats.

^lol :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Soon you'll need to introduce quota system to,with all this Italian illegal immigrants coming to Bosnia on wooden planks, cardboard cut-outs, to think they all are nothing but economic migrants, lmao...
lol..
:rofl: :rofl:

^ Well I love Italians. :) And for the stupidest reason. I saw a woman walking downtown and she stepped on one of the Sarajevo Roses, and her face dropped, and she jumped back, and she blessed herself two or three times in that circular Catholic way, and came back again even later with a flower and put it down. :D

I don't know how she even knew what they were, but I love her. :D Come on over, Italia! At least you won't have to learn how to say bye in Bosnian.

^^ i totally agree !! :lol: those bastards :no:

Herceg Bosna ? :lol:

Does it still officialy exist? :runaway:

:cheers:

I remembered some years back maybe in 1998, I was crossing between Bosna i Hercegovina-Republika Hrvatska, through a small border crossing but both border checkpoint had Croatian flags on them. Even the Bosnian Border checkpoint. It was weird. Whats weird was I stopped for coffee near that border checkpoint and they accepted my Kuna's! Good thing since I didn't have much KM's on me.

In January/February of this year I went to Dubrovnik from Sarajevo via Neum, I actually stayed in Neum rather than Dubrovnik because it was cheaper.

When I was travelling from Neum to Dubrovnik there was only a Croatian Border Checkpoint, So when I was leaving BiH, only Croatian Authorities manned the posts. BiH border officials were nowhere to be seen.

^ Interesting. I guess, the Bosnian border police were having lunch or coffee then, who knows :D

:cheers:

Hehe... hard working people huh.

I must say you were lucky, I dunno but every time I passed thru the checkpoints on my way to the sea there were like long lines on both sides.

And as for the Croatian flag, remember that was 1998. A lot, a... lot changed since 1998. ;)

actually, border crossing Neum is the first one with joined border control (and not Izačić). but it is only in the case if you take Neum seriously, it is really funny! I think that on entrance (north) the police is bosnian, border patrol is croatian, and on exit (south) croatian police and bosnian border patrol. And sometimes they control, sometimes not. I remember when I went to Dubrovnik, in one way they controlled, other not. The only thing that they hate is taking pistures! I took a photo of me and friend in front of table "Welcome to Bosnia & Hercegovina" and they wanted to take our camera, but I said that I'm promovating bosnian tourism and they should be glad with that! Of course, they couldn't deny anything to those my words! ;-))))

these are the times when I want one of those speed boats to cruise around in and just say "put your hands up in the air" :tongue4: :tongue4: :tongue4:

Hehe... hard working people huh.

I must say you were lucky, I dunno but every time I passed thru the checkpoints on my way to the sea there were like long lines on both sides.

And as for the Croatian flag, remember that was 1998. A lot, a... lot changed since 1998. ;)

I know tell me about it. 1998 the scars of war in Sarajevo were still very obvious. Now its significantly much less so..

actually, border crossing Neum is the first one with joined border control (and not Izačić). but it is only in the case if you take Neum seriously, it is really funny! I think that on entrance (north) the police is bosnian, border patrol is croatian, and on exit (south) croatian police and bosnian border patrol. And sometimes they control, sometimes not. I remember when I went to Dubrovnik, in one way they controlled, other not. The only thing that they hate is taking pistures! I took a photo of me and friend in front of table "Welcome to Bosnia & Hercegovina" and they wanted to take our camera, but I said that I'm promovating bosnian tourism and they should be glad with that! Of course, they couldn't deny anything to those my words! ;-))))

^ I didn't see you here before...welcome :)

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Evo malo, možda već i za zabavu, jedan prastari thread sa samog dna kace.

S druge strane...neobično je danas vidjeti taj preveliki i predimenzionirani granični prijelaz, sjajne arhitekture i uz njega još i napušteni hrvatski omanji prijelaz, ambicioznu cjelinu iz nekog drugog vremena. Tu nas dočekuju veseli hrvatski i bosanski službenici koji sjede zajedno, sretni da nekog vide. Kratki pokaz osobne, smješak i koja šala, sve skupa dvije-tri minute za prijelaz granice.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff70/xy_poz/Bihac%201/26-XI-2007-cicebihac041.jpg

Malo dalje samo selo Izačić u oštrim serpentinama i sjajno smještenom dominantnom udvojenom starom i novom džamijom na vrhu brda
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff70/xy_poz/Bihac%201/26-XI-2007-cicebihac042.jpg

ima li jos kakvih slika iz tih krajeva?

iz bihOća :> :tongue3:

^^cuveni bihacomrzac:)