View Full Version : Burj Dubai or Sears Tower?


Travis007
September 14th, 2005, 10:32 PM
Both of them are designed by SOM, both of them have setbacks, both have such timeless and iconic designs,and both of them have shared (or will share) the title of the world's tallest building. Which one do you prefer?

http://www.skyscraperpicture.com/chicago05.jpg

http://www.rimutija.com/Pastatai/Sears_bokstas.jpg
http://www.discountretailersdirectory.com/sears_tower.gif
http://students.washington.edu/mtilley/images/chicago_0305/sears_tower.jpg
http://digilander.libero.it/grazianomirichigni/chicago%20sears%20tower.jpg


OR

http://www.epochtimes.com/i6/4121005271528.jpg
http://www.tijan.com/images/burjdubai/burj_dubai_10.jpg
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/591/3818260000.jpg

cellete
September 14th, 2005, 10:35 PM
BD

ferrariguy
September 14th, 2005, 10:38 PM
Burj Dubai

B@dGuYoM
September 14th, 2005, 10:43 PM
today sears ;)

Jackhammer
September 14th, 2005, 10:45 PM
Burj. Sears is too small (JK). Seriously, love Sears, but Burj is amazing in all respects.

Techno-Architect
September 14th, 2005, 10:54 PM
The design of Burj Dubai is matchless~!!

dubaiflo
September 14th, 2005, 11:30 PM
indeed.

http://tinypic.com/doqhc8.jpg

malec
September 14th, 2005, 11:42 PM
I voted I have to wait and see. Sure when the Burj is completed it'll probably be very impressive but I still reserve my judgement for when it's completed.

CULWULLA
September 15th, 2005, 12:50 AM
sears is a baby compared to Burj Dubai. no real comparison. Sears is 1970's BD is 21stC. BD is more graceful and elegant.
Sears has had its time in the limelight. BD will bask in it for decades!

spyguy
September 15th, 2005, 12:58 AM
^Not really, since there are proposals for taller in Dubai itself.

I'm don't know. Obviously I love the Sears Tower, but BD isn't that bad itself, from the renderings from away. When you get closer however, I don't like it as much. So I'll have to wait and see.

Also, how can you say BD has a "timeless and iconic designs" when it isn't even finished?

Trances
September 15th, 2005, 01:01 AM
Burj will endure in people more and make far more impression on the world than Sears

malec
September 15th, 2005, 01:05 AM
Well, with all the tall towers getting built today who knows if this will stay the WTB for long or not. The longer it stands as world's tallest, the more famous it'll become. Let's hope al burj doesn't beat it because it doesn't have half as good a design as burj dubai.

John
September 15th, 2005, 01:06 AM
None of them seem to be much interesting.

spyguy
September 15th, 2005, 01:08 AM
I don't think any buildings from now on will have the WTB title for much more than five years. Or at least none will surpass ESB and Sears records.

CULWULLA
September 15th, 2005, 01:36 AM
heres a quick diagram. its not 100% correct. but gives idea. the 705m height is estimated.
the floor plates for BD are unique and its tall stepped form will be iconic.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2636/burjdubaicomparisonsears4vu.jpg

spyguy
September 15th, 2005, 01:42 AM
^Funny how things never change :) You could even say Trump Chicago is like Sears, except rounded off on the edges.

Azn_chi_boi
September 15th, 2005, 02:01 AM
Sears Tower for now... but made in the 1970's... I say its a great building.

DarkFenX
September 15th, 2005, 04:49 AM
Burj Dubai

phillyskyline
September 15th, 2005, 04:53 AM
BD

Skybean
September 15th, 2005, 05:03 AM
Too hard to say from just renderings... I will say that Sears fascinates me. Boxes are great.

DARKNIGHT
September 15th, 2005, 05:11 AM
BD

dubaiflo
September 15th, 2005, 12:30 PM
I don't think any buildings from now on will have the WTB title for much more than five years. Or at least none will surpass ESB and Sears records.

rather 10 years then 5.
if they push BD to the magical figure it will take longer i am sure...

malec
September 15th, 2005, 02:40 PM
Well, if Al Burj doesn't go higher (and I hope it doesn't) then burj dubai should remain tallest for about 10 to 15 years. From 500m to 700m is quite a big jump in case some have forgotten and it may be even higher than this

samsonyuen
September 15th, 2005, 10:29 PM
Sears Tower's a classic. I think in reality, the Burj Dubai will be neat, but I'm not sure it'll be great.

Jules
September 15th, 2005, 10:41 PM
Burj Dubai has too many setbacks, don't like that. Definitely Sears.

beyond 1000
September 16th, 2005, 12:26 AM
BD.

Sears was excellent in its day but nowadays more elaborate designs are coming in.

Sears, in my opinion, doesn't rate with BD in the design category.

The Mad Hatter!!
September 16th, 2005, 12:39 AM
sears,the black glass makes the difference

Siopao
September 16th, 2005, 12:51 AM
sears is a baby compared to Burj Dubai. no real comparison.

its a comparison for ugliness... sorry, I just dont like either designs.

luv2bebrown
September 16th, 2005, 01:12 AM
depends on how slim/fat the burj dubai ends up being.

Skoulikimou
September 16th, 2005, 03:43 AM
i will go for burj dubai blind folded we are going into new era of skyscrapers , there is no doubt sears is a great structure ,but when i come to burj dubai it totally diffrent case we are talking about 800+ metre ,this thing was never accomplished in history , i will hold the title of the highest structure on earth :)

Taufiq
September 16th, 2005, 03:54 AM
http://www.epochtimes.com/i6/4121005271528.jpg

Hmm this pic has been squeezed horizontally!!

and Burj Dubai would be my choice even though I love the Sears

great prairie
September 16th, 2005, 04:22 AM
I really got to wait until Burj Dubai is done...

dubaiflo
September 16th, 2005, 03:21 PM
Hmm this pic has been squeezed horizontally!!




it has been. was already posted before.
they original high res version is in the BD part 5 i think.

ncon
September 16th, 2005, 03:25 PM
BURJ DUBAI for me!

Onur
September 16th, 2005, 04:22 PM
:nocrook: !BURJ DUBAI! :nocrook:

punjabi_dubai_lover
September 16th, 2005, 05:10 PM
definitely burj dubai

missingtooth
September 28th, 2005, 04:43 PM
Is it just me? I think burj Dubai is so overrated. Yes it is a nice, elegant building but dont u guys think its too skinny and a lil bit out there? i mean its too complicated and looks like a mess to me. To many "sections" that make it looks so DISORGANIZED. Dont get me wrong, i think its an impressive building but i just dont get all the hype around this building (design wise not height wise). Nontheless.... i would pick BD over sears cause BD is more modern and not as boxy as Sears.

Peace.

Aaron King
September 28th, 2005, 06:41 PM
When the burj al arab was being designed it was said that a truly great design for a building is one that can be hand sketched by ANYONE and instantly recognizable, the only building that would fit into this at the time were: The Eiffel Tower, the Sydney Opera House, and the WTC. I am not really sure that either Sears or Burj Dubai would fit into that right now, I would also probably put Petronas Towers in the category.

Sitback
September 28th, 2005, 08:28 PM
I think the Sears Tower is a horrible shape it just has fantastic height.

spyguy
September 28th, 2005, 10:41 PM
The shape is awesome. You have to appreciate the ingenious of it in the 1970s.

Latoso
September 28th, 2005, 10:58 PM
I'm a big SOM fan and Adrian Smith, so I have a place in my heart for both. But I'll have to go with Sears since it's in a real city and country! :jk:

dubaiflo
September 28th, 2005, 11:08 PM
hope you are really joking...

TampaMike
September 28th, 2005, 11:21 PM
BD for sure.Bot the award for WTB won't hold onto this building from 10 years when it is built

missingtooth
September 29th, 2005, 10:01 AM
Seriously, we all do respect here, i must admit it looks spectacular and all....but the design is WAAAAYYYY too complicated for me. As i mentioned earlier, it has too many sections and looks kinda mess and disorganized. Plus, i also somehow sees it is as just a "copy" of sears tower design wise. Relax, i'm not blind. I can see the difference. But the way i see it is that, both towers has so many sections that are combined together to become a massive superstructure. Dont u recognized this? its just that sears tower is an assembly of boxed buildings whilst Burj is just a thinner and rounded version of it.

Just my 2 cents........hope nobody is offended.

p/s.......for me the best super tall building design belongs to PETRONAS towers. Sleek and elegant........not too complicated but intricate enough to make me adore it. Plus I LOVE the bridge at the towers :D

PEACE.

malec
September 29th, 2005, 03:53 PM
. Plus, i also somehow sees it is as just a "copy" of sears tower design wise.

They look totally different in my view. If it is indeed a copy of sears then that means all georgian buildings with pillars are copies (Apart from the first one of course ;)) and all box shaped skyscrapers are copies of the first one too.

Phenomenal Fullerton
September 30th, 2005, 10:21 AM
I voted I have to wait and see. Sure when the Burj is completed it'll probably be very impressive but I still reserve my judgement for when it's completed.

Have to agree with Malec on this one. How can you compare them when one's still a drawing?!

As for compares (see my post on Fordham Spire v Burj Dubai), I'm not sure I really believe in them.

In this case, due to same architect/design similarities, they are easier to compare in a fair way, but only to an extent.

I mean, one's got years on the other one for starters. If they were going up at the same time, I guess this would be a fairer contest.

Have to say though, Sears is impressive. Even more so after watching a programme about it on Megastructures on Foxtel. It's incredible how that place is built and how it functions. And to think that the BD will have to be even more impressive than that to make it function properly and efficiently.

Phenomenal Fullerton
September 30th, 2005, 10:34 AM
Seriously, we all do respect here, i must admit it looks spectacular and all....but the design is WAAAAYYYY too complicated for me. As i mentioned earlier, it has too many sections and looks kinda mess and disorganized. Plus, i also somehow sees it is as just a "copy" of sears tower design wise. Relax, i'm not blind. I can see the difference. But the way i see it is that, both towers has so many sections that are combined together to become a massive superstructure. Dont u recognized this? its just that sears tower is an assembly of boxed buildings whilst Burj is just a thinner and rounded version of it.

Just my 2 cents........hope nobody is offended.

p/s.......for me the best super tall building design belongs to PETRONAS towers. Sleek and elegant........not too complicated but intricate enough to make me adore it. Plus I LOVE the bridge at the towers :D

PEACE.


Yep, I have to agree with you here. Same concept, just bigger, different colour and rounded corners instead of square ones.

Sorry Malec.

I don't agree with your opinion, but that's just my opinion. You have every right to form your own opinion and express your own opinion and just because I don't agree with your opinion, I'm not saying your opinion is wrong, because everyone is entitled to their own opinion in my opinion, and it's everyone's right to express that opinion, even if other people, in their opinion, don't share that opinion. What's more, someone else's opinion shouldn't influence anyone from forming their own opinion, but hey, that's just my opinion and since we're asking people's opinions I'll bloody well express my own opinion and whether you choose to agree or disagree with my opinion is entirely your opinion.

:)

Kent
September 30th, 2005, 11:53 AM
Burj Dubai :)

_zner_
September 30th, 2005, 12:25 PM
"so far" my vote goes to sears... the design is so amazing.. its a 9 cube building... while BD is like a toothpick that was combined together to create a tower... ;)

malec
September 30th, 2005, 04:33 PM
Yep, I have to agree with you here. Same concept, just bigger, different colour and rounded corners instead of square ones.

Sorry Malec.

I don't agree with your opinion, but that's just my opinion. You have every right to form your own opinion and express your own opinion and just because I don't agree with your opinion, I'm not saying your opinion is wrong, because everyone is entitled to their own opinion in my opinion, and it's everyone's right to express that opinion, even if other people, in their opinion, don't share that opinion. What's more, someone else's opinion shouldn't influence anyone from forming their own opinion, but hey, that's just my opinion and since we're asking people's opinions I'll bloody well express my own opinion and whether you choose to agree or disagree with my opinion is entirely your opinion.

:)

So I'm not ALWAYS right then ;)

(see burj vs fordham thread)

Phenomenal Fullerton
October 3rd, 2005, 06:23 AM
So I'm not ALWAYS right then ;)

(see burj vs fordham thread)

Nope... not this time! But whether you're right or wrong is just my opinion, not everyone's opinion. (Oh God, don't let me start that again)!

CrazyCanuck
October 3rd, 2005, 06:25 AM
While I find neither amazing besides height, i'm going to wait until BD is finished to make a judgement.