what the procent of people love us and not in 17 countries.....(asked about jews not Israel)
so our the best friends are dutch:)
1)Netherlands:85% support us and only 11% against us
2)big surprise:France 82% support us 16% against us
3)Canada
4)UK
5)USA: only 77%!!! but only 7% said that they don't like us
.........

Poland:ony 54% support us 27% don;t like us (Poland doesnt' changed since WW2!!!)

Muslim countries:
Turkey:(also bad surprise) only 18% support us 60% don't like us
Indonesia:13% support us and 76% don't like us
Jordan and Lebanon 0% support us heheh

http://news.walla.co.il/?w=//783461

Zohar you mean jews or Israelis?

thats two different things! dont confuse this.

jews......i said....

lol Zohar u always said "Turky is our best friend", u idiot... lol

Im surprised after 50 years of brainwashing that we get 18 percent in turkey and..
13 percent in indonesia!?
we dont even have relations with indonesia?!

and jordan is 80 percent palestinians so no need to expect anything from them,
the hashemites must step down and let palestinians make it into palestine..
its time to end that ridiculous toy-kingdom..

lol Zohar u always said "Turky is our best friend", u idiot... lol

i said as country.....we are good friends.....and about ppl i felt they don't like me when i had been in Istanbul...but if we will israel question turks are very hospitable ppl....70% of world don't like us.... :bash:

I am not too surprised that most American Jews support Israel. If you go to the Salute to Israel Parade, in NYC, you will see many people who back Israel as well as those who don't support it. Speaking of NYC, the entire metro area has a large population of Israelies in the US than any other city in the US.

i think Florida is second Tel Aviv:)

I don't love jews, nor do I dislike them. I try to keep those feelings away when it comes to races. I try to see the individual and not his/hers origin.

When it comes to peoples opinion of jews where I live than it's mostly anti-zionistic. This movement grows or decreases depending on the news from Israel. You can see such news on any TV channel a few times every week(or day). Many reporters are obviously antizionists, some are neutral.

There are some people that are antisemites but they hate every foreigner more or less.

antizioni=antijew...

In some cases, yes. Some people believes in zionistic conspirations(Jews rules the world etc). But in general, people becomes antizionist becouse they just don't like what the state of Israel are doing to the palistinians(or what they believe you are doing). In general, young people and many muslims are antizionists while older people have a more neutral standpoint in this conflict.

can anyone translate the article to english?
also, does the poll give the questions asked, methodology of the poll?

i said as country.....we are good friends.....and about ppl i felt they don't like me when i had been in Istanbul... but if we will israel question turks are very hospitable ppl....70% of world don't like us.... :bash:
Why do you think that they didn't like you? Did they say something bad to you?

lol Zohar u always said "Turky is our best friend", u idiot... lol
We have a lot of brainwashed people (in Turkey), but there are also many Turks who like (or have nothing against) Israel and Israelis.

BTW those brainwashed losers hate everyone, not only Israelis. There are two main groups who hate almost everyone: the religious (fanatics) and the nationalists.

Im surprised after 50 years of brainwashing that we get 18 percent in turkey..

Are you talking about anti-Jewish propaganda?

To be anti-zionist is a precise political idea, such as being anti-colonialist, anti-comunist or things like that.

To be antisemitic is just plain racism. but many zionist jews (and non-jews) tend to convince people that being a jew (or even not being anti-jew) automaticaly means you are a zionist.

Hence low educated people in poor country will mix up everything and their anti-zionism will transform into anti-semitism

I am curious why wouldnt u say that those 18% are brianwashed? because that is what I think anyway.

^^ So you consider people who don't hate Jews to be brainwashed?

I say brainwashed because we see a lot of what is seen of Israel on TV in arab countries, how jews are always steriotyped as black hats and suits and curling hair,
how egyptian tv produces hate-series about mosad agents kidnapping muslim babies,
not to mention the palestinian tv which is all the racist filth you can imagine combined into one-hour songs.
For me to say we are illegally occupying judea and samariya is brainwashing. when you dont show all the facts but show the facts that support one side's claims thats for me brainwashing, and the entire muslim world has probably done this so much that it produced the waves of fanatic terror we see, from demonising the west and western culture or other religions.
For example in Turkey someone asked us how is it that we can eat in passsover
the square bread with human blood but he heard in judaism you slaughter meat like in islam because you are not allowed to eat animal blood?
so of course how did he reach this "information?" from the christian church myth they spread about eating passover bread with blood of christian children to get the uneducated farmers to hate and keep away from jews.. and from there is naturally passed into the next phase into modern arab media anti-jewish propaganda.
so this is what I call brainwashing, and it is still alive and very popular even in egypt where we have peace - these tv series enjoy the highest rating..
so after that can you like jews? those people wearing black and eating childrens blood?
not to mention world domination schemes, mosad agents druging/kidnapping muslim children and other "plots" on these tv series..
so if it reached turkey then imagine what it does in more closed muslim societies..

just ignore smussuw... he is a racist and anti jew!

If he hates others, then let's hate him too lol..

We cant hate him, just feel sorry and pity for him, its hard to change years of
hatred - when you grow up with it it seems natural.. its like in north korea the only thing they know is their leader is the great sunshine and everything else is terrible. its hard for open societies to understand fanaticism.
they are taught that being open, tolerant, secular is fanatic and wrong..

Am not anti jews and I didnt act like a troll in this thread. That isnt my intention.

I am anti killers and theives.

so the palestinians stole our land and our now terrorising us..
I hate killers and theives as well
see we are on the same side
:)

I am anti killers and theives.
Killers? Our Muslim brothers are good at killing, don't you think?

The sheer fact that 99,99% of all terrorist acts in the world are commited by people of Muslim origin, is at least shameful.

Why do you think that they didn't like you? Did they say something bad to you?

yes,few of them.....

The sheer fact that 99,99% of all terrorist acts in the world are commited by people of Muslim origin, is at least shameful.


99.99%??? Are you crazy, what about the death squads in Brasil and Colombia, and the murders and executions of the paramilitaries in Colombia, what about christian terrorists in Ouganda, what about anti-muslim pogroms in India (the opposite is true also), etc etc and lets not even talk about how states act as terrorists sometimes (Guatemala, Russia etc)

All this could be considered terrorism, so terrorism is everywhere, for very different reasons, french resistants against the nazis during WW2 where considered terrorists by many, so be carefull also about what you call terrorism.

^ OK, there is some truth in your statement no doubt, but you seem too play down the terrorism people commit in the name of Allah..

They say it themselves, ask the Taliban, Al Qaida etc.. I consider religious extremism one of the greatest threats to mankind.

I never said there wasn't any extremist muslim terrorism, I was only saying it was far from being the only form of terrorism.

Of course religious extremism is a huge threat, but we should ask ourselves in the first place, why is religious extremism so popular? Why is it more popular in some places than others? etc etc, not by just repressing and repressing, as it will only lead to more terrorism.

Sorry, I got a bit off topic here.

[QUOTE=virtual]etc etc, not by just repressing and repressing, as it will only lead to more terrorism.[QUOTE]

The fact is the london bombers were not repressed and actually a lot of terrorism comes from upper class, well educated and well off that seemingly do not fit the "poor and deprived = prone to terror" format.
anyway, there is no and cannot be any justification even minute for terror, because it is aimed at innocent civilians, not governments and not armies.

Source26, the London bombers were not repressed, but they were part of the lower classes of society, and in Britain, as well as other european countries, immigrants are still seen as indigenous people (not really citisens, not really foreigners), hence they are somewhat excluded from society, if the amount of people it hapens to is important, then a few idiots will come out of the bunch and will be willing to kill themselves in terrorists attacks.

Terrorist leaders are generally from the upper or middle classes, as well as sect leaders, small far-right leaders and such, they have always existed and will always exist, the difference is made with those who follow them and are willing to kill themselves for this type of cause, the tchetchnians who took hostages in a moscow opera were far from being part of the upper class, same with the terrorists attacks in the parisian metro in the 90's, same with many of the suicide bombings in the state of Israel etc.

Why do you think Hilter got elected in the 30's in Germany? Because of the huge poverty caused by the 1929 crisis, and he used the lack of education and the despair of people to make them vote for him, same with terrorism.

So in a few words, there are no excuses for terrorism, but terrorism isn't random, it becomes important for many reasons, these reasons must be understood if terrorism is to be annihilated.

With Turkish...

i wouldn't be surprised.....
Afterall the Mein Kempf was a best seller in Turkey for a few years in a row...

i dont know what the Turks like about Hitler, but thats there cup of team :bash:

well as i see it,

Many Israelis think of people who dont like them as Brainwashed
Many Arabs and Muslims and the rest of the world think of people who like Israel as Brainwashed.

by the way if that poll was about Israel not Jews it for sure will have different results.
negative once for the israelis i would say.

wonder why most of the World hate Israel?!
oh yes they all are "brainwashed"

well as i see it,

Many Israelis think of people who dont like them as Brainwashed
Many Arabs and Muslims and the rest of the world think of people who like Israel as Brainwashed.

by the way if that poll was about Israel not Jews it for sure will have different results.
negative once for the israelis i would say.

wonder why most of the World hate Israel?!
oh yes they all are "brainwashed"

the world doesn't have to be brainwashed to hate Israel and Jews, I blame it on simple ignorance, there are so few Jews in the world its hard for us to defend ourselves everywhere we are demonized and blamed for problems, there are a billion and a half muslims, the overwhelming majority have never even met a Jew so its easy for them to say "oh the Jews are evil," and all that,

well as i see it,

Many Israelis think of people who dont like them as Brainwashed
Many Arabs and Muslims and the rest of the world think of people who like Israel as Brainwashed.

by the way if that poll was about Israel not Jews it for sure will have different results.
negative once for the israelis i would say.

wonder why most of the World hate Israel?!
oh yes they all are "brainwashed"

jealous.......
so many people in the world think that jews control USA and all economics in the world....

jealous.......
so many people in the world think that jews control USA and all economics in the world....


You can't explain hate for Israel as classical only as classical-antisemitism, of course there are antisemitic people who think jews control the world of finance, media etc, who will also hate Israel, but you are a fool if you think this is the only reason.

maybe u are a fool because in the beginning of this thread i said a question was if you support JEWS!!!!!!!!! not ISRAEL!!!!!!!

Yet Saif was talking about Israel not jews, and you justified hate for Israel as being caused by traditional antisemitism.

but all thread is about jews and not about ISRAEl

Israel is politically hatred!

personaly i think everone hates jews deep down , its the persentage that accualy admitts it that your seeing on those statistics. but thats ok , i dont give a shit what anyone thinks about me and my people. mashiach will come soon hopefully and the respect will come along with that.

mashiach will come,
but then because of the new calatrava bridge he will have to stand in traffic jams in the entrance to jerusalem like everyone else, and he will give up, sell the donkey for a train ticket and go party in tel aviv :)

hehhe nice travel for messiah:))( we speak about turkish forumer messiah???//)

what the procent of people love us and not in 17 countries.....(asked about jews not Israel)
so our the best friends are dutch:)
1)Netherlands:85% support us and only 11% against us
2)big surprise:France 82% support us 16% against us
3)Canada
4)UK
5)USA: only 77%!!! but only 7% said that they don't like us
.........

Poland:ony 54% support us 27% don;t like us (Poland doesnt' changed since WW2!!!)

Muslim countries:
Turkey:(also bad surprise) only 18% support us 60% don't like us
Indonesia:13% support us and 76% don't like us
Jordan and Lebanon 0% support us heheh

http://news.walla.co.il/?w=//783461

I'm sorry to say but this seems like a great misrepresentation! Unfortunately anti-semiticm is alive and well in many parts of the developed and/or Westernized world (it is also something that is hidden to some extent) and I think that a lot of it has to do with stereotyping (that exists for the Jews) and it also has alot to do with politics and the politicking of Israel and the U.S. (I have to add the U.S. with Israel because one does not go with out the other). Is it unfair? Sure it is, in some regards. And while I don't necessarily support Israel (or the U.S. for that matter politically speaking) I think its a damn shame that this prejudice exists to this day!

Here is proof that NYC has an Israeli takeover.

1. Most of the rock clubs are owned by Israelies.
2. NYC has a branch of both the Israeli Consulate and Bank Leumi.
3. Numerous Israeli-born archietects like Eli Attia live in NYC.
4. Kew Gardens Hills in Queens has the highest Israeli population in both the city and the US.
5. There are numerous synagogues throughout the five boroughs.
6. Every spring is the annual Salute to Israel parade down 5th Ave.
7. Most Israelies fly to NYC when they visit the US.

Here is proof that NYC has an Israeli takeover.

1. Most of the rock clubs are owned by Israelies.
2. NYC has a branch of both the Israeli Consulate and Bank Leumi.
3. Numerous Israeli-born archietects like Eli Attia live in NYC.
4. Kew Gardens Hills in Queens has the highest Israeli population in both the city and the US.
5. There are numerous synagogues throughout the five boroughs.
6. Every spring is the annual Salute to Israel parade down 5th Ave.
7. Most Israelies fly to NYC when they visit the US.

Tal, are you kidding? While I won't dispute your 7 points, they indiviudually or collectively are not proof of an Israeli takeover.

Tal, are you kidding? While I won't dispute your 7 points, they indiviudually or collectively are not proof of an Israeli takeover.

I agree with you too. This is not evidence at all. We could argue the same points for other ethnicities too. Half of Queens is over run by Greeks does that mean that we have over taken NYC? No of course not! The 7 points that were mentioned also applies to the Greeks of NYC as well. And I'm sure that the Italians can claim similar as well and so forth! But there are a lot of Jews in NY, this is true. Nothing wrong with that!

I was being sarcastic, but NYC literally has one of the highest Jewish populations in the world.

^^ kewl. i actually thought you were but on the internet, tongue in cheek does not always come across very well. and with so many people disliking israel and/or jews i just wanted a clarification. cheers mate.

Manhatn 1 million

Brooklin 4 million

^^ No way.. there are less then 6 million all over the US

Manhatn 1 million

Brooklin 4 million
Neighborhoods such as Williamsburg and Borough Park in Brooklyn are home to some of the most observant, Hasidic Jews, while at the same time there is also an Arab population living this borrough as well.

Manhatn 1 million

Brooklin 4 million
dude , the entire metro of NY hs no more than 2-2.5 mill and i think thats being generouse its prob more like 1.5-2mill

The jewish population of Greater NYC is 1.4 million, wheres 50 years ago there were 2 million. The city has 972,000 jews and population rate is falling.
reasons: inter-marriage and low birthrate, old-age move to florida to retire, orthodox immigration to other countries and other states.

Israelis are extremely active in the real estate market in New York with around 40 new projects by Israeli companies or with them involved, totalling $20 Billion.

nobody knows how many Israelis are in new york, some say 100,000.
nyc is the most profitable air-route with 1.6 million tickets annualy.

personaly i think everone hates jews deep down , its the persentage that accualy admitts it that your seeing on those statistics. but thats ok , i dont give a shit what anyone thinks about me and my people. mashiach will come soon hopefully and the respect will come along with that.

Would that 'deep-down Jew hate' be from own self hate?

Also, I don't think this should be discussed in what amounts to be a Public Forum. It's standard practice to discuss amongst ourselves... not in front of others.

in my city have 3.000 jews :)

Felixpo, really in Barranquilla? that's cool..

Felixpo, really in Barranquilla? that's cool..


Yes....i´m catholic, but i have a jews friends and they are a goog kind persons.:)
in my city have two sinagogues, and a Club and a school jewish.


sorry for my english :)

Do you have a Habbad there? they must be from Habbad :lol:

I think most of the turks "don't like" Israel because they have prejudices against you.They think they have to dislike Israel.I don't really believe that they hate Israel since many of them don't know anything about your country but just repeat what they hear in the media.

Zohar they really treated you bad when you said you're from Israel?That's really new and strange to me.I thought we turks treat everyone hospitably...

From todays newspaper hurriyet.com
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ekonomi/3388981.asp?m=1&gid=69

It's about Akmerkez,one of Istanbul's most popular malls.
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/_newsimages/576977.jpg

It's said that during Yom Kippur 7 shops didn't open in Akmerkez.Actually every shop has to be opened 365 days in a year in the mall of Akmerkez otherwise people have to pay high fines but the jewish owners of these seven shops close their shops once in a year although it's forbidden but the management of the mall just turns a blind eye ;)

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ekonomi/3388981.asp?m=1&gid=69


here is a bad online translation of the article :)

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You are loved PARFÜMERİ:

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http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/
New York most popular Sukkot destination for Israelis

The second most popular destination is Antalia, Turkey, followed by London and Paris.

Dalia Tal 16 Oct 05 15:04

New York is most popular Sukkot holiday destination for Israelis, according to a survey by Ophir Tours Ltd. of 500 travellers. The second most popular destination is Antalia, Turkey, followed by London; Paris; northern Italy; Berlin; Thailand; Varna, Bulgaria; Spain; Greece; and Cyprus, in descending order.

The survey also found that 150,000 Israelis will travel abroad over the holiday, 10% more than during the corresponding period last year. The increase in the number of travellers to overseas destinations is reportedly coming at the expense of Sinai: 60% of people who cancelled trips to Sinai are staying in Eilat, while 40% opted for Bulgaria, Greece, Cyprus, or Turkey.

Published by Globes [online], Israel business news - www.globes.co.il - on October 16, 2005