Location: HC-3, Block 4, Clifton, Karachi
Purpose: Office and retail


Project Dolmen City, situated on the tranquil sea, is the largest and classiest in shopping concepts in Pakistan. It is part of a grand master plan to creat a city within a city and one of the most prestigious building projects in Pakistan. It is only one of its kind in Pakistan.

It is the newest dimension in the concept of shopping and office space with a plot size of 31,494 sq. meters. Dolmen City comprises four towers housing office space plus a mega mall. The Executive Tower, 12 storeys high; the Triangular 17-storey tower; and the two 60-storey high towers will house office spaces. The facade of Dolmen City complex is designed with 'curtain walls', 'aluminum composite' and 'fair faced' panels which will be weather proof and durable, requiring no painting or maintenance. The glass used will be double-glazed and tempered making it sound proof.

Source: Brochure, Dolmen City.

Main Features Office

The Office Towers offer the following facilities:

Office Space

Executive Tower (18 floors)--------approx. 192,000 sq ft
Triangular Tower (19 floors)--------approx. 255,000 sq ft
Tower 1 (60 floors) ---------------approx. 960,000 sq ft
Tower 2 (60 floors) ---------------approx. 960,000 sq ft

Spacious Lobbies
24- hr uninterrupted power supply
24 hr security vigilance
Ample reserved car parking space for each floor
Central airconditioning
Each tower individually serviced by elevators
Each tower linked to the mall with elevators.


Main Features Mall

The Mall offers the following facilities to the discriminating shopper or retail outlet owner:

Retail Space
Departmental Store --------------approx 45,000 sq. ft
Hyper Market & Retail Outlets ----approx 535,000 sq ft

Atrium A ------------------------approx 10,000 sq ft
Atrium B ------------------------approx 3,700 sq ft

Covered car park space for over 3,500 cars and surface car park for another 1200 cars.
24 hr uninterrupted power supply
Recreational facilities with bowling area and gaming arcade --- approx 20,000 sq ft
Exhibition area ------------------approx 8,125 sq ft
Food Court and restaurants ------approx 75,000 sq ft with 1,400 person seating capacity
Coffee Shop --------------------approx 5,000 sq ft

Two elevators, 21 escalators, six freight lifts and seven customer elevators.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/swerveut2/DolmenCityBr3.jpg


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/swerveut2/DolmenCityBr5.jpg


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/swerveut2/DolmenCityBr2.jpg


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two 60-storey high towers.......any renderings

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/swerveut2/DolmenCity1.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/swerveut2/DolmenCityKarachi01.jpg


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/swerveut2/DolmenCityKarachi03.jpg


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mashalla

if that is how big the mall would be (from the construction pics) then that is tiny.

btw how comes theres no news/articles about this project ,the construction has allready started.

if that is how big the mall would be (from the construction pics) then that is tiny.



you really think so? I would like to ask you the same question while you are standing next to it.

:badnews:

if that is how big the mall would be (from the construction pics) then that is tiny.

btw how comes theres no news/articles about this project ,the construction has allready started.
umm in case u didnt notice. thats just the first section of the project. look carefully plz. ull understand what i mean.

if that is how big the mall would be (from the construction pics) then that is tiny.

btw how comes theres no news/articles about this project ,the construction has allready started.

c'on man open your eyes or you need glasses ? look at this pic I have made just for you .... that small buliding in the pic is the one under construction is the small bulding the 2 towers 60store high is going to be under construction soon now I hope you can see quite well ....
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b325/Waqar2005/DolmenCity121.gif

Amazing project. Seems like the project is progressing ahead well. : )

And the mall looks huge ! I hope they build twin towers there.

I just started a thread on this project in the world forums. Please contribute your comments, views, and thoughts to that thread as well. :)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=259999

60 floors great news for pak and karachi. :applause:

c'on man open your eyes or you need glasses ? look at this pic I have made just for you .... that small buliding in the pic is the one under construction is the small bulding the 2 towers 60store high is going to be under construction soon now I hope you can see quite well ....
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b325/Waqar2005/DolmenCity121.gif


maybe you need glasses, cos this was wat i wrote

if that is how big the mall would be (from the construction pics) then that is tiny

Lahore Lahore hai man, you've got bigger malls there I presume ( :tongue2: )
Anyways, if you feel its small, its small for ya!
why should anybody try to make you feel otherwise?

As far as I am concerned, way to go Dolmen Builders! thats one heck of a classy project you are making out of scratch and no foreign investment in Karachi!

If you are concerned about Advertising, I get a feeling that Dolmen follows the philiosophy that a good product sells itself. It needs no advertising. This is the feeling I get from looking at all the other Dolmen projects that have been made in the city so far. Dolmen Center, Dolmen Mall, their apartment projects, etc. They first complete them, then get people to occupy them. And they always stand out because of their construction and architecture.

I think this project was probably advertised, but very minimally. They also had representation over at the Housing Exhibition.

The brochure I have gives three more sites near DHA that Dolmen has indicated for future projects.

here goes again, swerveut and his lahore hatered, what low mentality. I feel ashamed of having these people as pakistanis.

I personally love Lahore and its architecture and its people. Except for some immature ones particularly on this forum.
And I dont think I have ever said anything that is against Lahore on this forum.

swerveut.........................very nice. two 60 story towers will look nice for Karachi beachfront skyline. nice construction update images as well.

dude, its clearly visable from alot of your posts your anti lahore.


Lahore Lahore hai man, you've got bigger malls there I presume ( )

^^^
if that is not an anti lahore post what else is it, there are many more posts like that from you. this is such low mentality.


if i think a mall in karachi is small what does that have to do with lahore, that was my opinion, there was no need to act like a moron.

dude, its clearly visable from alot of your posts your anti lahore.


Lahore Lahore hai man, you've got bigger malls there I presume ( )

^^^
if that is not an anti lahore post what else is it, there are many more posts like that from you. this is such low mentality.


if i think a mall in karachi is small what does that have to do with lahore, that was my opinion, there was no need to act like a moron.


This is my jibe at you and not Lahore. Learn to understand English. Go to school again if you have to. And also, didnt I mention that if you feel the mall is small, you have a right to feel that and nobody should make you feel otherwise!
You should be proud of the fact that I am assuming there are bigger malls in Lahore which make you feel this one is pretty small.
Apart from that, I have no more to say and my discussion on this matter ends here.

jibe at me not lahore, then WTF is lahore doing there.

so maybe you need to learn english and go back to school not me.

here are just some of you utter crap against lahore

Also, karachi threads are rare because people are too busy with life to go looking around for projects and reporting them. For Lahore, every single ten story apartment complex gets reported. If you start reporting every such construction from Karachi the forum would get swamped.

Dude, why dont you just post the link you saw it on here because I sure as hell cant see it. As far as I know you live in Lahore. Let a Karachiite speak for Karachi.


so now if you give a jibe against someone, do you bring there city into it.


and yeh if you did write
if you feel the mall is small, you have a right to feel that and nobody should make you feel otherwise!

then what was the point of writing

Lahore Lahore hai man, you've got bigger malls there I presume

Great project, I think Pakboy wasnt wrong when he said that the mall is small, that has nothing to do with Malls in Lahore, its just small.

BTW cant wait for the 60 storey tower renders :D.

Can't you kids have a thread without fighting over Lahore or Karachi ? This is a great thread, and if you guys wanna ruin it with your immature fights, then you don't deserve to be on this forum.

If a mall is in Lahore, or Karachi, its in Pakistan dammit. WTF!

Very nice project

This is a really nice project but can someone tell me what is up with that triangular building? It looks really out of place beside these tall rectangular twin towers, I really hope they do something about that one. Overall this is a really nice project and will do wonders for the karachi beachfront skyline.

Nice job!

i saw the project site today, development pace is good, the rectangular small block is completed, the triangular one is getting its height fastly. a few days back, it wasnt a noticeable structure, but now it is one.
the area on the eastern side (from this project to McDonalds)of it is enclosed in sheets, means something is going to be built there as well..whats gonna be built there? does anyone have any idea about it?

-Mehdi

Yaar this is one amazing project; those towers are going to be built in Clifton right? From what I saw in Clifton 5 years ago...what a change! I remember garbage on the beach and now I see highrises and villas.

Yeah and as for the mall; who the hell cares if it's big or small? Seriously...big malls are a pain if they plan to make this into a plaza type mall then I'm all for it.

wen did construction on this start.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8024/karachidolmencityconstrgo7.jpg

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3959/karachidolmencityconstrzk4.jpg

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3307/karachidolmencityconstrcd3.jpg

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1340/karachidolmencityconstrul4.jpg

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4123/karachidolmencityconstrof1.jpg

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9936/karachidolmencityconstrwe1.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9716/karachidolmencityconstrzk3.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8527/karachidolmencityconstrqx2.jpg

nice pics yaar thax 4 sharing

The triangular tower seems like a building that you will have to give some time to let it grow on you.
Thanks for the updates Musiddiqui!

hi everyone, im new here, so you now have a new forumer on mehfil pakistan. :)

regarding this project...is the building thats nearly been built going to have have a different facade on the outside? beacuse it sure doesnt look nice like it is?

welcome

hi everyone, im new here, so you now have a new forumer on mehfil pakistan. :)

regarding this project...is the building thats nearly been built going to have have a different facade on the outside? beacuse it sure doesnt look nice like it is?
i believe yes the building IS going to have some facade to it. because if you notice it from different angles. you can see the silver touch to it and some floors still dont have any glasses added.

this project of dolmen city is amazing.......1st of all its located near the shore which gives it an awesome view.......i was there with Musiddiqui while taking pics...believe me...its one of the greatest projects.....RocK Karachi Rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this project of dolmen city is amazing.......1st of all its located near the shore which gives it an awesome view.......i was there with Musiddiqui while taking pics...believe me...its one of the greatest projects in Pak....RocK Karachi Rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

here is another pic...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b388/shaz2005/lahore/60112423_2f469044b5.jpg

not a whole lot of progress since the last picture update I see, but that could be because of the Ramadan and the earthquake.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1113934/DSC00842.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1113934/DSC00846.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1113934/DSC00849.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1113934/DSC00852.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1113934/DSC00850.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1113934/DSC00854.JPG

construction seems slow, is there any news of the 60 story towers yet.

no nothing yet

obviously theyre gonna put a facade on the near completed building right?

Again, mad props to musiddiqui for the updates :applause:

Building progress is indeed going very slow. I wonder why they are taking so long. But well, seems like they are using more traditional building methods as opposed to the Creek City modern construction plants. But Dolmen builders are known for their quality construction work.

I can only imagine how lively this area is going to become once this building and its mall is completed. There will be people just thronging the place for the mall and the Beach Park. Excellent. :cheers:

from the flickr.com album of MFK-PK

Seems like construction is indeed going very very slow on this project.
http://static.flickr.com/37/113868463_08a22e0839_o.jpg

Apart from Dolmne City our another project "DOLMEN MALL" at haidery in karachi, which has almost completed and the extention work of Dolmen Mall, tariq road has also started, which makes the largest shopping mall in Pakistan even more Bigger... we would also like 2 inform u that tower 1 of DOLMEN CITY, has been completed and even 3 offices are in operations from this month, the construction work is in full swing and hopefully the entire project will complete in a tenure of 3.5 yrs. However we shall be lauching the Tower 2, Inshallah by the end of 2007. Currently we are only focusing on the construction work in Karachi, and our 3 more mega projects will also be launched in DHA, karachi after the current 3 projects are completed. Some important fact about Dolmen City are stated below:

Project Dolmen City, situated on the tranquil sea, is the largest and classiest in shopping concepts in Pakistan. It is part of a grand master plan to creat a city within a city and one of the most prestigious building projects in Pakistan. It is only one of its kind in Pakistan.

It is the newest dimension in the concept of shopping and office space with a plot size of 31,494 sq. meters. Dolmen City comprises four towers office space plus a mega mall. The Executive Tower, 12 storeys high; the Triangular 17-storey tower; and the two 60-storey high towers will house office spaces. The facade of Dolmen City complex is designed with 'curtain walls', 'aluminum composite' and 'fair faced' panels which will be weather proof and durable, requiring no painting or maintenance. The glass used will be double-glazed and tempered making it sound proof.

Main Features Office

The Office Towers offer the following facilities:

Office Space

Executive Tower (18 floors)--------approx. 192,000 sq ft
Triangular Tower (19 floors)--------approx. 255,000 sq ft
Tower 1 (40 floors) ---------------approx. 960,000 sq ft
Tower 2 (40 floors) ---------------approx. 960,000 sq ft

Spacious Lobbies
24- hr uninterrupted power supply
24 hr security vigilance
Ample reserved car parking space for each floor
Central airconditioning
Each tower individually serviced by elevators
Each tower linked to the mall with elevators.

Main Features Mall

The Mall offers the following facilities to the discriminating shopper or retail outlet owner:

Retail Space
Departmental Store --------------approx 45,000 sq. ft
Hyper Market & Retail Outlets ----approx 535,000 sq ft

Atrium A ------------------------approx 10,000 sq ft
Atrium B ------------------------approx 3,700 sq ft

Covered car park space for over 3,500 cars and surface car park for another 1200 cars.
24 hr uninterrupted power supply
Recreational facilities with bowling area and gaming arcade --- approx 20,000 sq ft
Exhibition area ------------------approx 8,125 sq ft
Food Court and restaurants ------approx 75,000 sq ft with 1,400 person seating capacity
Coffee Shop --------------------approx 5,000 sq ft

Two elevators, 21 escalators, six freight lifts and seven customer elevators.


website being launched shortly

^^ the first paragraph is some new news, where did you get it?

All the rest is already on the first page from their brochure.

Can somebody please photograph this building in Karachi and post it on here?

i know one person from the dolmen group.

website is currently u/c and will be online soon.

^^ would really appreciate if you can share the link.

can anybody in Karachi please go and photograph this place? theres a dire shortage of updates from Karachi other than news items.

a photo from a distance but you can see that the triangular tower is reaching close to the height of rectangular building.
http://beta.pixsense.com/Hussain/images/PixSense4082b2fb8fbcbc9394491083ec210824-2006324826265625.jpg

^^ Nice! Kothari Parade seems to have been cleared up!

Ill go there in a couple of days and get some pictures ..

This project has some good potential!

Apart from Dolmne City our another project "DOLMEN MALL" at haidery in karachi, which has almost completed and the extention work of Dolmen Mall, tariq road has also started, which makes the largest shopping mall in Pakistan even more Bigger... we would also like 2 inform u that tower 1 of DOLMEN CITY, has been completed and even 3 offices are in operations from this month, the construction work is in full swing and hopefully the entire project will complete in a tenure of 3.5 yrs. However we shall be lauching the Tower 2, Inshallah by the end of 2007. Currently we are only focusing on the construction work in Karachi, and our 3 more mega projects will also be launched in DHA, karachi after the current 3 projects are completed. Some important fact about Dolmen City are stated below:

Project Dolmen City, situated on the tranquil sea, is the largest and classiest in shopping concepts in Pakistan. It is part of a grand master plan to creat a city within a city and one of the most prestigious building projects in Pakistan. It is only one of its kind in Pakistan.

It is the newest dimension in the concept of shopping and office space with a plot size of 31,494 sq. meters. Dolmen City comprises four towers office space plus a mega mall. The Executive Tower, 12 storeys high; the Triangular 17-storey tower; and the two 60-storey high towers will house office spaces. The facade of Dolmen City complex is designed with 'curtain walls', 'aluminum composite' and 'fair faced' panels which will be weather proof and durable, requiring no painting or maintenance. The glass used will be double-glazed and tempered making it sound proof.

Main Features Office

The Office Towers offer the following facilities:

Office Space

Executive Tower (18 floors)--------approx. 192,000 sq ft
Triangular Tower (19 floors)--------approx. 255,000 sq ft
Tower 1 (40 floors) ---------------approx. 960,000 sq ft
Tower 2 (40 floors) ---------------approx. 960,000 sq ft

Spacious Lobbies
24- hr uninterrupted power supply
24 hr security vigilance
Ample reserved car parking space for each floor
Central airconditioning
Each tower individually serviced by elevators
Each tower linked to the mall with elevators.

Main Features Mall

The Mall offers the following facilities to the discriminating shopper or retail outlet owner:

Retail Space
Departmental Store --------------approx 45,000 sq. ft
Hyper Market & Retail Outlets ----approx 535,000 sq ft

Atrium A ------------------------approx 10,000 sq ft
Atrium B ------------------------approx 3,700 sq ft

Covered car park space for over 3,500 cars and surface car park for another 1200 cars.
24 hr uninterrupted power supply
Recreational facilities with bowling area and gaming arcade --- approx 20,000 sq ft
Exhibition area ------------------approx 8,125 sq ft
Food Court and restaurants ------approx 75,000 sq ft with 1,400 person seating capacity
Coffee Shop --------------------approx 5,000 sq ft

Two elevators, 21 escalators, six freight lifts and seven customer elevators.


website being launched shortly

I prefer the traditional building, but however, Good project ;)
I have a question: Are these buildings protected from earthquake?

Theres a very little chance of major earthquakes in Karachi. Also, Dolmen builders have a reputation for durable construction.

Are there any good rendering of the 60 floor towers that will be built? The ones we have dont show much detail...

Isn't there any better renderings of the 60 floors towers?

Well guys I was passing by Sea View so I thought I'd see how Dolmen City is going, bad news but the construction is going real slow, really slow. I tried to get some snaps but couldnt get any good quality pictures, but afterwards when I compaired the update pictures from musiddiqui and the pics I took, seems like they have completed the 4th floor on that Mall (the building facing the road). That update from musiddiqui was on 20th Jan 06' and today on 09th Apr 06' only 1 floor, jeez!

Anyways here is the comparison;

(Taken on 20th Jan by musiddiqui)
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1113934/DSC00854.JPG

(Taken by me today)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/DSC00025.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/DSC00026.jpg

Ill try to go there again in the day time just to get a better picture..

I think the triangular tower is maybe going up faster right? This is a massive project.
The guy I met at the housing exhibition in summer 05 told me the triangular tower and mall were due for completion by 2007 whereas the two 60-story towers were scheduled for 2009.

Would really appreciate if you or anybody can get better quality photos in the daytime. Merci.

Hi swerveut
I was the person you met in the exhibition.
There are certain change in the plan of the completion of the projects.

and what exactly would those changes and revised completion dates be?

This is too slow! I cant see this project completed before 6 years if they are gonna make it at such speed! Really it only depends upto the dedication of the goverment! The previous Mayor of Karachi was pretty keen to build such projects.. Although he was over 70 but i liked him just because he looked a bit more dedicated guy then the people who led the city before! I dont think the current mayor is anywhere near intrested to start or complete this and such other projects.. He is much more keen to improve the infrastructure of the city.. But take my word, When you are dedicated and looking forward to do something.. You can build 6 PTC and 10 Dolmen City projects in 3 years!!!

^^ A nazim doesnt build projects like this. These projects are made by private companies. A nazim does exactly what he is doing currently. Improve the city's infrastructure, living standard, and maintain law and order.

@ JABIR: Can you please elaborate more and give more details about this project? Especially, what are the new plans? Is there still a plan for the two 60 storey towers and is there a better rendering of those towers you could share with us? When is this project going to be completed? Why its going so slow, and any other info of this sort would be much appreciated.

offical website, coming soon
http://www.dolmengroup.com/

offical website, coming soon
http://www.dolmengroup.com/

Can anyone go over to the site and make some pictures?

why no updates on the project since april????????????

unfortunately... there isnt any significant development to show :(

i will try and contact one of the guys again and see whats happening with it/

i pass the site everyday almost thhee box building is complete and i think they are working on thr triangular tower and the base of the project,new machines seemed to have to have come to the project limits!

Bloody hell everything goes slow in Pakistan...

What's going on...does it have anything to do with the increase in cement prices in the country?

At last i have seen some construction going in Dolmen City. i saw the crane moving metal sheets here and there.
Not only they have resumed the construction of Triangular tower but also in the vicinity. the base of whole project is now 4 floors which was 3 floors earlier. not only this, some more construction has been started in the eastern side of the project (probably the 60 floor towers) i couldnt see exactly whats going on there, just the cranes are up that i could figure out.
here are a few photos i took yesterday.
http://beta.pixsense.com/SharedGridView.aspx?Referred=bW1laGRpaHVzc2FpbkB5YWhvby5jb20=&ReferredCollID=MzI0OQ==&SenderName=SHVzc2Fpbg==

nice! thanks for the updates!

I like those little videos that you took. This project is huge! hopefully it will get completed and opened soon. I bet its causing the builders a lot of financial troubles which is why its going so slow.

At last i have seen some construction going in Dolmen City. i saw the crane moving metal sheets here and there.
Not only they have resumed the construction of Triangular tower but also in the vicinity. the base of whole project is now 4 floors which was 3 floors earlier. not only this, some more construction has been started in the eastern side of the project (probably the 60 floor towers) i couldnt see exactly whats going on there, just the cranes are up that i could figure out.
here are a few photos i took yesterday.
http://beta.pixsense.com/SharedGridView.aspx?Referred=bW1laGRpaHVzc2FpbkB5YWhvby5jb20=&ReferredCollID=MzI0OQ==&SenderName=SHVzc2Fpbg==

What I understand from the pics .. they r starting pilig works ... of course its 60 storey towers...nothing else requires piling there.

updates?

From these pictures it seems as though the triangular building just began; any word on when those two 60 floor towers are going to be built?

WHY ISNT ANYBODY IN KARACHI GIVING AN UPDATE???

very absurd.

This and Creek city both.

It's hard to give updates when construction is going so slow...but still...I'll try at least.

I managed to get a couple of new pics driving by there..

Check em out here...
http://karachi.metblogs.com/archives/2006/07/dolmen_city_upd.phtml

i see a crane in the first picture lifting an iron cage where the two towers are supposed to be constructed, maybe they have started the foundation work. can someone in khi go and take some pictures from the beach there is no boundary wall back there so u can easly see whats going

Just came to know that Bank Islami Pakistan (Dubai Islamic Bank) is opening their H.O. in Dolmen City office tower shortly .....
seems it is going to be completed soon..

It's going to look amazing!

BANK ISLAMI AND "DUBAI ISLAMIC BANK" ARE DIFFERENT BANKS. U ARE RIGHT BANK ISLAMI HAS ITS HEAD OFFICE AND ALSO ITS MAIN BRANCH AT DOLMEN CITY, FLOOR 10 & 11. WHICH IS ALREADY IN OPERATION.

DOLMEN GROUP IS ALSO TAKING PART IN THE SECOND INTERNATIONAL HOUSING EXHIBITION TO BE HELD AT EXPO CENTRE. HOPEFULLY THIS YEAR ALSO IT IS AWARDED AS THE BEST BUILDERS, LIKE LAST YEAR. SO ALL FANS OF DOLMEN GROUP DO VISIT EXPO CENTRE, KARACHI FROM 28-31 JULY'06 AND SUPPORT THE BUSINESS GROUP WHO ARE DEDICATED IN BUILDING WORLD CLASS PROJECTS IN PAKISTAN.

^^ if you are related to the Dolmen group, why dont you provide us with some details about this project and what is going on?

mann.....Dolmen City Office is in Operation??? Isnt it the same which is being built in DHA CREEK? if not? then where is it

well office tower was completed a few months ago, 3 offices where allready in operation at the time, now there should be more. ill try and get some more info on it and 3 other dolmen mega projects in DHA.

considering its two tall towers which have to be completed by 2009, when should we expect construction to commence?

considering its two tall towers which have to be completed by 2009, when should we expect construction to commence?

the tall towers will be launched end of 2007, and construction should begin around then.

Went to Sea View/Clifton so I got some shots;

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/db303686.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/12938e9e.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/c353799f.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/9881ea63.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/d22022b6.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/dfba2799.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/1640ee98.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/46a19e14.jpg

Courtesy new Sony Ericsson W810i

Again, excellent updates! seems like piling work for the foundations of the tall towers is definitely going on!
The triangular tower still has about 5-6 storys more to go till it reaches full height but this is a massive development project - all finded locally. I wonder how the offices that have already opened there function through all the construction work going on around it...

And seems like its raining in Karachi! always a good thing to see!

Thanks for the gr8 update Fahad. And damn you got another SE W810i maaaaaaan buy a Nokia and keep my job secure :P hehehehe just kidding W810i is a cool phone. Thanks for the pics again.

^ Thanks, bought it yesterday.

The K750i got water all over it so its gone for repairs, I do hope it gets repaired!

^^Well if you dropped it in a bucket of water then don't hold your breath. If it just got splashed etc. then there is a chance.

Wow great updates!

i email one of them today ang got this reply.

HI SUHAIB,
hope u r in good health and having a great time. No the construction work is still in full swin. but, due to restrictions of cantonment and dha we are forced to work in a very desplined manner, so that the neighborhood is ot disturbed. Executive tower 1 has already completed and 80 % floors (OFFICES) will be in operation within 2 months. as far as our other projects are concerned. 1 is very near to Dolmen city, it is located at main Khayban-i-Shamsheer. (OPPOSITE Mc donald's and Silver sand, SEA VIEW) this also a very huge and costely project with a vision of new high rise building in the city of lights.
the other 2 projects in DHA are located at Sun Rise Avenue. 1 project is for (Office space & retail). while the other comprises of ( Housing space & retail)
keep writing to us and also visit our stall at Expo centre, in the "MY KARACHI"exhibition.
Regards.

Thanks for the info Pakboy, would you mind PM'ing me their email address?

great pictures fahadkhan and thanks for the info pakboy

Any updates anyone?

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/2361/seaviewwp4.jpg

Could any body tell me about this site? If this is the Dolmen city office's site? How could it be actually? Because Google has 3-4 years old imagery, and iff they have updated it like they have updated the EMAAR's land, then they have very bad image imposing techinques :P

this is exactly the Dolmen City construction site. and its also true that Dolmen City project is that old. you can see that old casino still intact beside this project. you can also see the rectangular tower standing and also the base of triangular tower that is currently taller than the rectangular tower.

This is an old pic, this road the Matine Promenade is all new paved with Beach Park all around. Casino has been torn down and a new tower is now spring up.
Google got the old pic ~1.5 yr old

It would be nice if Google Updates its entire database of Karachi, it has been quite a while now.

well i have heard this project has been u/c since 1996

This is an old pic, this road the Matine Promenade is all new paved with Beach Park all around. Casino has been torn down and a new tower is now spring up.
Google got the old pic ~1.5 yr old

This imagery of Karachi is more than 3 years old.

Dolmen City was started in the second Benazir era I think, and then during the Nawaz Sharif years, progress on it slowed down a whole lot. Then it picked up again in these past couple of years. I used to always wonder what the heck was being built there during its early days.

Yes, like Mehdi_cs said, most Google Earth Karachi imagery is 2.5-3+ years old. I am really glad the ugly old casino building that is visible in their image has been torn down.

Ouch! If not for the dilapidated state that it was in, Casino was one of my favorite buildings in Karachi. I was depressed when it was brought down. To each his own, I guess.

I'm surprised to see that the Dolmen City project is so old!

I hope they do finally finish the whole project, the two 70-storey towers are yet to be even started.

Dolmen City was started in the second Benazir era I think, and then during the Nawaz Sharif years, progress on it slowed down a whole lot. Then it picked up again in these past couple of years. I used to always wonder what the heck was being built there during its early days.

Yes, like Mehdi_cs said, most Google Earth Karachi imagery is 2.5-3+ years old. I am really glad the ugly old casino building that is visible in their image has been torn down.

the Casino... it surely was an ugly thing.

Picture dated Nov 27, 2006 by ItmKarachi on flickr.com

http://static.flickr.com/100/310509947_f961fc60a5_o.jpg

snails pace

well... its all indigenous! I guess we should be proud of that...
After all, even with all the fanfare, our economy still has a loooooong way to go.

One building seems to have been occupied already.

One building seems to have been occupied already.

Yup, in fact my cousin is starting his internship there soon..and he said one portion of the site is already open, thats where he'll be working.

For a long time people have been making comments on the slow pace of work on this project, and they have been right - it does seem to be taking a long, long time to complete. But let's look at why that might be so.

In Pakistan construction of most commercial projects starts only after they're fully sold out. Then the construction is financed from the installments that the buyers pay.

Many times the capability of the contractor to build the project may be greater than the inflow of money from the buyers. In that case work will have to slow down to keep pace with the capacity of the buyers to pay their installments.

This I reckon is the reason why this project, and many others are so slow. There is just no capability of the buyers to pay faster. Remember housing finance has only recently been introduced in Pakistan. I'm not sure if mortgages are yet available to finance retail shops and offices which is what this project is.

As long as this is the funding model for projects, this is how slow they'll be built. However if construction loans become available, or if foreign companies with more money enter the market, then work may progress much faster.

I dont like the finished executive tower... seems like its still incomplete or something was left out in its design. Not very elegantly or smoothly done.

It looks like a dinosaur compared to even the plaza's we have that are coming up.

well i dnt think its going at a snails pace, construction is going at th right pace and will be completed on time.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/143/328500636_17d1e938e2_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/144/328492030_24096682dd_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/142/328492034_54ae786802_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/136/328492038_02b7330388_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/134/328492041_60ab18439a_b.jpg
^^Base of 60 story towers under construction

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/136/328492045_aac84ea360_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/328500626_addf2b2406_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/135/328500630_9f51c4e337_b.jpg

^^
Great Updates .....

seems that the structural work for shopping mall is about to complete and they will start finishing works now...

I hope they do start work on it, and atleast finish that under construction building by mid of next year.

Musiddiqui, man, GREAT updates :applause:

These are the best updates that have been contributed here in a long time. Excellent work!

Seems like they have got some heavy machinery now, so the work should be progressing faster. Earlier they seemed to be just using traditional construction methods.

Also, the triangular tower has almost reached full height now, so completion work should be about to start on that soon as well.

Thanks musiddiqui.....
every one was waiting for dolmen city updates...

How can they complete TWO 60-60 Storey buildings in 2 years time...as they told...

How can they complete TWO 60-60 Storey buildings in 2 years time...as they told...

The Sinagporean companny also wants to complete two 65 storey towers in two years at Chundrigar Road as well..can they really do it?

I would say its highly unlikely!

Well, Burj Dubai rose from foundation to 60+ stories in 2 years so it IS do-able. But I doubt there might be as many resources (heavy machinery etc )available in Pakistan to builders than in Dubai.

The Empire State Building took a mere 18 months to complete some 75 years ago (was a steel structure, though). So yes, it's doable.

^^ Burj Dubai however is a reinforced concrete structure, just like the most of the buildings of Pakistan are.

I think Burj Dubai might end up halfway before even 10 floors are raised on these two buildings!

The Sinagporean companny also wants to complete two 65 storey towers in two years at Chundrigar Road as well..can they really do it?

IFF they work like the builders in Dubai...

Well, Burj Dubai rose from foundation to 60+ stories in 2 years so it IS do-able. But I doubt there might be as many resources (heavy machinery etc )available in Pakistan to builders than in Dubai.

Thats what I wanted to say....They could just build 10-12 storeys of their Triangular tower in 365 days.... this means about atleast 30 days=1 month for a floor..isnt it? If they work with the same pace...the TWO 60-60 storey buildings would end up in 60*(2 buildings)=120months=10 years :D

The Empire State Building took a mere 18 months to complete some 75 years ago (was a steel structure, though). So yes, it's doable.

Remember that was EMPIRE STATE BUILDING....not a 5-story appartment building of Pakistan which takes 2-3 years to be built.... :bash:

Its being DOABLE is not controversial....but the actual point is the past activity on the Dolmen City site...

Yeah, buildings do get built pretty damn slowly here. It's probably because of lack of technology, not enough resources, and not a big incentive to finish in time.

My cousin who's doing an internship at Dolmen says that there's now a revised plan..instead of 60 storeys..the towers are now going to be a mere 36 storeys..what a let down!

Weird, do ask him for a source of that comment if possible.

My cousin who's doing an internship at Dolmen says that there's now a revised plan..instead of 60 storeys..the towers are now going to be a mere 36 storeys..what a let down!
:banana: :banana: :banana:
After 2 years they will probably CHANGE THE PLAN and decide to go some storeys under the ground :P Or Plan to flatten the site to extend the BAAGH IBNE QASIM :P ....Won't they?

:) so any new updates on this project if yes can someone plzz post new pics. THANKS

:banana: :banana: :banana:
After 2 years they will probably CHANGE THE PLAN and decide to go some storeys under the ground :P Or Plan to flatten the site to extend the BAAGH IBNE QASIM :P ....Won't they?


:lol:

IslamicRenaissance your such a bundle of joy :P

updates??? could anyone take pictures of the 60-60(or 36-36) storey towers' site?

No

:| Aap to Canada mein ho....I am asking the ppl in Karachi :(

Ok, I will today. For once I'd be in that area during daytime.

There ya go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeqapMvuZZs

And please don't mind the background voices, I kinda forgot about them at the time of recording!

Ok, that was a bad experiment. It turned out crap on YouTube. Compressed wayyyyy too much by them.

Wow great video!

Can I have some chocolate now?

Ok, that was a bad experiment. It turned out crap on YouTube. Compressed wayyyyy too much by them.
You dork!:lol:;)

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=lumais

ABBEY! ABU KO BHULAON!:bash: :lol:

:rofl:

:lol:

PRICELESS!

Yaar Umais, turn down the volume next time, my speakers nearly blew up from that sound.

Ok, I don't get the joke. What's so funny?

Ok I visited this site today and had a long discussion with their Marketing manager which clarified a lot of things about this project. But I will tell those later, first some great pictures:

The Triangular Tower

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8421/tri8angulartr24tt.jpg

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6254/tri8angulartr19cz.jpg

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3563/tri8angulartr30kw.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7541/tri8angulartr9xc.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5704/aboveproject48gq.jpg

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1101/aboveproject27xv.jpg

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3600/aboveproject37yy.jpg

Some Project Details

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9628/projectdet38cn.jpg

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9132/projectdet7wc.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7672/projectdet10sw.jpg

The top floor of the executive tower:

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9225/projectdet23ce.jpg

Some INCREDIBLE views from the top:

In this picture you can see the Clifton seafront and the Beach Park behind the triangular tower:
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1822/aboveproject5rl.jpg

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4471/aboveproject12uo.jpg

A view of the seaview area from the top of the executive tower (You can see a large empty plot besides this project in the foreground in this picture... this plot is fenced in, and could be a site for another large project... maybe the port tower?):

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6299/update20270cf.jpg

Alright, now before I give more wonderful pictures, lemme recount my meeting with the marketing manager:

I asked him about the whole project and completion times and this is what he told me:

- Executive tower is all finished except for three and a half floors, and all floors (except the three) have been occupied. They have given out the offices mostly to multinational companies and all have already occupied it except for a few that are renovating their floors according to their business requirements. Entrance to the executive tower is currently from the back side where a large underground parking facility exists for the occupants. The tower and parking etc. is all international standard, top quality construction from my observation.

- The Triangular tower should be finished by mid 2007 and should be giving out occupancy by then.

- The mall should also finish by late 2007, but may not be officially launched till early 2009 for some reason that I dont know.

and now for the breaking news........

drumroll.....

- The two 42 Story towers are also going to be finished by 2009. Why 42 stories you may ask? well, the original plan was for 60 story buildings and the construction will still be as planned. However, only about 42 stories will be constructed as of now because of an ongoing tussle between the developers and PAF base Masroor (Mansoor?). They are not allowing the building height to exceed 55 stories which might end up to be the final height of the towers, but dialogue is still going on, and the height might end up to being 60 stories as originally planned.

Why PAF Masroor isnt allowing them to build high is beyond my comprehension but Dolmen has my full support in this. I think they should be allowed to build all they way to as high as they wantto go. After all, we should encourage this sort of development in our cities instead of putting in bottlenecks in front of it.

And now some great pictures of the 42 story towers:

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6329/42storyconst27pq.jpg

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8310/42storyconst18fg.jpg

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/7295/42storyconst34gt.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/163/42storyconst49dx.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8062/42storyconst68uw.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5600/42storyconst51um.jpg



And some images from the top:

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2888/42storyconst72yw.jpg

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4599/42storyconst9da.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6299/update20270cf.jpg

this is the plot where dha is supposed to construct that glass tower

Wow... Swerveut, your really on top of things! Im impressed, excellent updates! Your the Techno Architect of Karachi:)

EXCELLENT PICTURES! God bless you swerve! :banana: :banana:

Excellent news too! Who would have thought that the twin towers would be finished so soon! I can see the Promenade shaping up pretty nicely! the Park and then the beach and these gleaming towers (once their constructed) WOW! :cheers: :cheers:

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1822/aboveproject5rl.jpg

Did the Dolmen people construct this little Promenade thingy or did the CDGK?

CDGK.

cheers for the appreciation!

Great updates, I just love the view you get from the top :eek:

Great Updates Keep it up!

swerveut .......yar its the greatest update .......zabardast...no comparison at all... :)
muahhh muahhhh........

yekh

:| ..... censor please !!!! :D

this is what is the real update of Ground Reality. the best updates ever on these threads.

Excellent update!

damn Swerveut, cha gaya yaar:cheers: :cheers: great updates:banana:

passed by the site today the triangular bulding is almost complet and they have satrted the making of the 2 twin towers.i could see they had put of 2 large steel like structures with poles at eveyend

nice update swer.

I'd lose a limb to have that view out of my office window. Just WOW! Though I do miss the sunken ship that used to be there. Anyone has pictures of it? I'm even willing to buy (if of good quality).

this is the plot where dha is supposed to construct that glass tower
No, this is CDGK land in Clifton. Thanks God for not having DHA own it.

Regarding height restriction by Masroor base, what a crap. These bases are the major hinderance in not getting where karachi should be.

:tyty: :tyty: thanks for the appreciation y'all!

I'd lose a limb to have that view out of my office window. Just WOW! Though I do miss the sunken ship that used to be there. Anyone has pictures of it? I'm even willing to buy (if of good quality).

I think that sunken ship got removed eons ago

No, this is CDGK land in Clifton. Thanks God for not having DHA own it.

actually, I would prefer it if the Clifton Cantonment Board gives jurisdiction of this land to DHA if not the CDGK. The CCB is the MOST INEFFICIENT urban works body I have come across. All the clifton roads are lying broken down wit potholes and broken curbs. They do not do any repairwork and any road patchings are of poor quality. Also, Clifton has a LOT of sewerage problems. Sorry about this rant, but CDGK is doing MUCH better quality work than CCB has ever done or will probably ever do. Also, I think DHA's development is inferior to the work done by the CDGK on many levels. There are NO service roads besides major DHA roads and houses open directly on the main road. And also a lot of road planning by DHA is ridiculous where on Zamzama and 26th st. you have only two constrained lanes for a road that easily gets three lane traffic.

Regarding height restriction by Masroor base, what a crap. These bases are the major hinderance in not getting where karachi should be.

I remember the President once asked for the shifting of PAF Masroor. I wonder what became of that.

Regarding height restriction by Masroor base, what a crap. These bases are the major hinderance in not getting where karachi should be.
The security of our country is more important than a skyscraper.:)

Thanks for the updates SwerveUT.

The security of our country is more important than a skyscraper.:)

I agree 100%...couple of floors won't make a big difference.

All in all nice pics and good to see development. The Bagh Ibn-e-Qasim looks amazing.

The security of our country is more important than a skyscraper.:)

I dont think its got much to do with security. I think the PAF fighters use a route near the towers for their practice runs. They can easily switch their route further inwards to the sea and I doubt a couple of extra floors should make too much of a difference to their runs.

I dont think its got much to do with security. I think the PAF fighters use a route near the towers for their practice runs. They can easily switch their route further inwards to the sea and I doubt a couple of extra floors should make too much of a difference to their runs.

Security issues..oh really. The biggest security threat we have is from internal sources. BTW Khi will be the only city where just for security no highrises will be allowed it is crap at best.

On other note: The vacant land is CDGK land not CCB.

Yes, the typical response of the Pakistani based off assumptions.:|

Really good work swer.

Moreover our fire fighting and rescue services lack the necessary snorkles and equipment to deal with fires and emergencies in high buildings. PAF could be posting height restrictions because there might be some ground based radar station to which buildings over a certain height might interfere with.

PAF Masroor is like 10 kms from that place. I wonder what might be bothering them. And if they have a problem with this, won't they have a problem with the supposed 65-story buildings on II. Chundrigar? That's much closer to the base than Dolmen City. This thing should really get resolved.

Yeah, we should demolish all the PAF bases in Pakistan and kick the pilots into Karachi Harbor. Yes! Lets show those militarymen who is boss.:nuts:

No the base should be shifted farther away from the city.

@ UP

We all love our countries armed forces, so stop acting as if your the only one who cares baout them! Common sense must prevail in this matter. The base needs to be shifted farther away from the city. it doesnt make sense to have them close to the city, this issue being one of the reasons why. It is in the better interest of the Airforce base and the city.

Nobody is talking about shutting the base down and making the pilots sleep with the fishes ok! chill.

No the base should be shifted farther away from the city.

@ UP

We all love our countries armed forces, so stop acting as if your the only one who cares baout them! Common sense must prevail in this matter. The base needs to be shifted farther away from the city. it doesnt make sense to have them close to the city, this issue being one of the reasons why. It is in the better interest of the Airforce base and the city.

Nobody is talking about shutting the base down and making the pilots sleep with the fishes ok! chill.
I was being serious!:ohno:

To be honest I think we have enough problems already, then to start shifting a whole (and huge) air base.

Anyways as I have said does our fire department and emergency departments even have the equipment to deal with high rise fires / emergencies??

I think no, only expensive and well maintained buildings which have a private management (like FTC) have those capabilities.

UP you sometime go in other extreme and also act as if uou the biggest saviour of Pak armed forces without knowing anything about other people and their background. dear friend, we all know that a base restricting the height limits is sorta stupid in current day and time. Dont you think that secutity forces in NY, Toronto, LA, London, Mumbai etc may also need to protect their cities and countrymen.

UP you sometime go in other extreme and also act as if uou the biggest saviour of Pak armed forces without knowing anything about other people and their background. dear friend, we all know that a base restricting the height limits is sorta stupid in current day and time. Dont you think that secutity forces in NY, Toronto, LA, London, Mumbai etc may also need to protect their cities and countrymen.
I have never claimed to be the saviour of the military. How is it stupid? Perhaps, it was radar station that needed the height clearence to operate? Maybe they were other valid reasons? My point above was NOT to make these assumptions that people have made as to why they have imposed a limit. Why even bother guessing if you do not know?:bash:

http://pakdef.info/pakmilitary/images/basefaisalpic.jpg
The history of PAF Base Faisal, perhaps the oldest air base in Pakistan, is a rich one since the RAF used it as their primary maintenance base to serve units throughout British India.

It isnt understandable to me why an airbase isnt allowing an skyscraper? Dolmen tower is going to rise 60 floors.....An aircraft doesnt fly so low after covering 10 kms.....I often watch fighterjets flying over the Karachi, they dont seem to be at a height lower than WTC....I think theres soemthing else behind the scene....

My guess would be a ground based radar and monitoring station looking for threats emerging from the sea. Thus buildings above a certain height might impede such a defence and could be deemed unsuitable for national security.

And again it's just 'sunee sunayee baat' from the project manager who told SwerveUT. People do tend to BS a lot when covering up their own shortcomings... Probably there was another reason and the guy just plonked PAF as the reason in his talks.
ANYWAYS WHO THE F*CK CARES!!???

good news i went by the site they have erected another crane for the 2 for the 2 twin towers they are about to build

My guess would be a ground based radar and monitoring station looking for threats emerging from the sea. Thus buildings above a certain height might impede such a defence and could be deemed unsuitable for national security.

And again it's just 'sunee sunayee baat' from the project manager who told SwerveUT. People do tend to BS a lot when covering up their own shortcomings... Probably there was another reason and the guy just plonked PAF as the reason in his talks.
ANYWAYS WHO THE F*CK CARES!!???

^^ What you said makes absolutely no sense. People believe rumors when they hear them over the grapevine but have trouble believing something when it comes right from the source. There is no reason the project manager would be lying to me while looking me straight in the eye and if you didnt read earlier, I mentioned that PAF uses the Karachi Coast as a route for their practice runs. I dont know what kind of bullshi++ing is going on, but the reason is clear, the answer is clear, still lots of speculation and crap is going on. So guys, clear your heads on this.

As far as the ground based radar theory goes, almost ALL major cities have impressive skylines on their coasts. Makes you wonder why they never face such threat from the sea as they have to block the construction of even one highrise on the coastline. Again, some little bit of common sense, and lots of speculation can easily be resolved witin your own heads.

Whatever the problems, lets hope this project doesnt go to the backburner.

^^According to alirox they are making preparations for the start of construction.
Man the skyline is going to look so cool...I mean Dolmen City on one end of the seaview drive and then on the other end Crescent Bay, Diamond Bar and all that Creek Marina/City stuff.

What you said makes absolutely no sense. People believe rumors when they hear them over the grapevine but have trouble believing something when it comes right from the source. There is no reason the project manager would be lying to me while looking me straight in the eye and if you didnt read earlier, I mentioned that PAF uses the Karachi Coast as a route for their practice runs. I dont know what kind of bullshi++ing is going on, but the reason is clear, the answer is clear, still lots of speculation and crap is going on. So guys, clear your heads on this.

As far as the ground based radar theory goes, almost ALL major cities have impressive skylines on their coasts. Makes you wonder why they never face such threat from the sea as they have to block the construction of even one highrise on the coastline. Again, some little bit of common sense, and lots of speculation can easily be resolved witin your own heads.
Well the project manager didn't give any reasons why PAF opposed it (as he is allegedly alleging). Next time you go there ask him so we know for sure. Until that time we should all shut our traps....especially me.

^^ :lol: :nuts:

@ Red Arrow: dude, if at first you dont succeed, read and read (carefully!) again :lol:

neways, like I said earlier as well, construction plans are unchanged but they will build only till the 42nd story till they get any more approval for further construction.

it seems ridiculous for Masroor base to have any problem with these towers. they are no way any hinderous to either radar or any air activity. just check the map, location of runways and their direction with respect to the location of Dolmen City. there seems some other reason wrapped in this logic.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/009.jpg

Theres an approx. 8 Mile distance between them.

it seems ridiculous for Masroor base to have any problem with these towers. they are no way any hinderous to either radar or any air activity. just check the map, location of runways and their direction with respect to the location of Dolmen City. there seems some other reason wrapped in this logic.


Saad....Thats what I've said...

And notice the direction of runways....They are no way in direction of Dolmen city...

Maybe the jets fly in the direction of the towers, and then make a turn to land?

But then again would they be flying so low?, a jet under 60 stories or even 70 stories?

NO NO NO!!!!!

That is PAF Faisal! Masroor is to the southeast of Karachi.

NO NO NO!!!!!

That is PAF Faisal! Masroor is to the southeast of Karachi.

:lol:

PAF Masroor is on the west, PAF Faisal is on the east.

What we're dealing with here is pure bureaucratic inertia. The tendency of every bureaucrat to try to do absolutely and utterly NOTHING because doing nothing is the easiest way to protect your backside. Unfortunately the CAA and the Air Force are nothing but typical government bureaucracies. When the inefficiency is hiding behind patriotism and defense concerns then it is very hard to argue against.

I've said previously that Karachi seems to have the strictest height restrictions of any major city in the world. The opposite case was the previous Hong Kong airport where planes had to literally fly between tall skyscrapers to land. So obviously there's no law of nature saying that every airport should have a radius of 10 miles clear all around for the aircraft to land safely.

To change the rules in Karachi we need to have a report prepared by consultants that shows how the issue has been solved in other parts of the world, especially North America, then have one of those consultants, preferably a retired US Air Force guy make the presentation to the local authorities. I'm fairly certain that they will be more than happy to oblige.

Thats totally wrong, I dont know where you got that idiotic Air base picture from.

PAF Masroor is on the West of Karachi, PAF Faisal is on the East of Karachi (Below the Jinnah Intl., and where the PAF Museum is), and theres PAF Korangi on the south east which is only a small strip, not even a complete airbase.

http://www.urbanpk.com/forums/uploads/uploadsystem/U1-1170187617.jpg



:toilet:


One cant know more precisely than a Karachiite :d.... Well many of American websites have mistaken about MASROOR and FAISAL bases, even GLOBALSECURITY.COM....The fact is written here:

MAsroor base is the one which FAHADKHAN showed....Its obviously one of the biggest airbases of Pakistan, while FAISAL base is just a small base built beside the SOUTHERN COMMANDER'S HEADQUARTER....Infact, Masroor is a base equipped with the most MIRAGES in Pakistan.

American Websites always show Masroor to be as Faisal and vice versa....Masroor is located just beside the HawksBay, while Faisal Base is located on Shara-e-Faisal near Karsaz.

Now its clear.....Enough said :(

Theres also PAF Korangi, but thats just a strip.

But then again would they be flying so low?, a jet under 60 stories or even 70 stories?

My point exactly....dont know why Saad(swerveut) consider the Dolmen Manager's reasoning right.....

can u post the google earth image of PAF Korangi's airstrip FAhadbhai? as my google earth is not working fine......

can u post the google earth image of PAF Korangi's airstrip FAhadbhai? as my google earth is not working fine......

Although I dont want to, but we must educate Uncle Sargam regarding the Bases in Karachi, so here it goes;

PAF - Faisal
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/078.jpg

PAF - Masroor
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/079.jpg

PAF - Korangi
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/077.jpg

Enjoy ;)

btw ....look at the picture UP posted....They show Samungli Airbase southwest of Quetta while its in North of the City... :)

lol :D....thanks anyway

btw ....look at the picture UP posted....They show Samungli Airbase southwest of Quetta while its in North of the City... :)

Thats totally wrong, I dont know where you got that idiotic Air base picture from.

:cheers:

I fear....Dolmen City has gone with the wind in our thread :D

PAF Korangi has no Air Strip. no aircrafts are there.
neither PAF Faisal nor PAF Masroor fly that low at clifton area. PAF faisal crago aircrafts to Middle East fly over clifton but at 3000+ feet height. these towers can only rise to only like 600 - 700 feet. far too short to be restricted.
In Dubai, commercial aircrafts fly parallel to SZR and they have like 1000+ feet tall buildings.
the map shown in one of the previous threads is 100% wrong.

http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=24852173&x=67024498&z=12&l=0&m=a&v=2

at the bottom most of this page, there is a block of Sea View. at the top right corner of this block is Dolmen City.

at the top left, u can sea the 2 runways of Masroor Base and on the right side of the page, you can see the Faisal Base.
you can see the orientation and the distances of these runways with respect to the Dolmen City location.

good news i went by the site they have erected another crane for the 2 for the 2 twin towers they are about to build

So you mean one additional crane to the one which was already there (as can be seen from SwerveUT's pic:
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2888/42storyconst72yw.jpg

Thats totally wrong, I dont know where you got that idiotic Air base picture from.

PAF Masroor is on the West of Karachi, PAF Faisal is on the East of Karachi (Below the Jinnah Intl., and where the PAF Museum is), and theres PAF Korangi on the south east which is only a small strip, not even a complete airbase.
http://pakdef.info/pakmilitary/airforce/map.html

it seems ridiculous for Masroor base to have any problem with these towers. they are no way any hinderous to either radar or any air activity. just check the map, location of runways and their direction with respect to the location of Dolmen City. there seems some other reason wrapped in this logic.

And notice the direction of runways....They are no way in direction of Dolmen city...

Maybe the jets fly in the direction of the towers, and then make a turn to land?

But then again would they be flying so low?, a jet under 60 stories or even 70 stories?

Okay, now I have to say this in bold print:

PAF jets use the coastal strip for their practice flying!!

They fly regularly from PAF Masroor to PAF Faisal and vice versa and use the Karachi seafront as part of their route (The guy I interviewed didnt tell me this cause I didnt ask, but I remember a PAF pilot who is a family friend once told us this) and therefore this is the most likely reason why PAF applied a height restriction on the building. Now the question of why they would be flying so low? Well, if you look at google earth, the distance from Masroor to Faisal isnt much and would not allow for the jets to gain a lot of height in such a short duration. Also, since it is practice flying, a lot of maneouveres (sp?) may be low. So this is the most plausible explaination for their height restriction that I can dig up.

Quite understandable, but again one wonders why DHA came up with those crazy proposals for a revolving tower at Sea View, not to mention that office tower they are/were constructing.

Quite understandable, but again one wonders why DHA came up with those crazy proposals for a revolving tower at Sea View, not to mention that office tower they are/were constructing.

where was port tower supposed to be?

The Port Tower was more towards the Ports area, far from Dolmen City.

It was supposed to be somewhere opposite the fountain.

UP: That pic seems odd. I always remembered seeing Masroor Base on my way to the Hawke's Bay. I'll confirm tomorrow (I got a senior Air Force guy at my company!).

Moreover, these demands are ridiculous. Change the goddamn route, rather than not allowing tall buildings. That's so idiotic, I can't even imagine how someone said that with a straight face. I wonder how they make tall buildings around the world. Guess the people there are brighter than these nimrods. And quite a few good examples there by Karachiite.

http://pakdef.info/pakmilitary/airforce/map.html

This is the website of an independant military research and analysis forum. And the image that they have on their website describing the airbases in Pakistan is not their own....probably taken from another(most probably American) website....and I've already said that this is not trustworthy, as I 've many a times been to and passed by Masroor Base...Thats one which is near Hawksbay.... :) ....Umais u dont have to confirm it....its 100% confirmed thing...

That is a better explanation...

my father had served PAF for 27 years and i have lived in both bases. PAF base faisal has all cargo activity. it is not an operational base and no fighter flies from it on routine basis. PAF base Masroor is operational and they do all their practices over somiani and hub area. not over the city. has anyone in karachi ever seen them doing such things over the city? second thing is that they take up the route Surjani -> Sohrab Goth -> Liaqtabad ->Masroor. Draw these lines on google earth and you will understand. secondly, has anyone in DHA ever seen low flying fighters there? the runways are not even aligned this way to support fightes flying low in this area for even taking off.
even if pilots(special force of the project manager) fly low there, they probably dont want these towers to be tall :lol:

Thank you !

So you mean one additional crane to the one which was already there (as can be seen from SwerveUT's pic:
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2888/42storyconst72yw.jpg


yes this is the new crane,
the old crane is next to the triangular tower

my father had served PAF for 27 years and i have lived in both bases. PAF base faisal has all cargo activity. it is not an operational base and no fighter flies from it on routine basis. PAF base Masroor is operational and they do all their practices over somiani and hub area. not over the city. has anyone in karachi ever seen them doing such things over the city? second thing is that they take up the route Surjani -> Sohrab Goth -> Liaqtabad ->Masroor. Draw these lines on google earth and you will understand. secondly, has anyone in DHA ever seen low flying fighters there? the runways are not even aligned this way to support fightes flying low in this area for even taking off.
even if pilots(special force of the project manager) fly low there, they probably dont want these towers to be tall :lol:

I was told by that guy that they do the practice flying very early in the morning which is why most of us dont normally see PAF jets on this route. Also, since all flights over the city are below the sound barrier, these jets wont be making a noise more than any other commercial jet.

Regardless of whatever reason PAF has for not allowing these towers, all of them seem ridiculous. PAF needs to get out of the way of Karachi's development.

yes this is the new crane,
the old crane is next to the triangular tower

Ok, thanks.

I was told by that guy that they do the practice flying very early in the morning which is why most of us dont normally see PAF jets on this route. Also, since all flights over the city are below the sound barrier, these jets wont be making a noise more than any other commercial jet.

Regardless of whatever reason PAF has for not allowing these towers, all of them seem ridiculous. PAF needs to get out of the way of Karachi's development.

Tey dont shoot sonic booms during their test flight...this is so true...but jet noise is hearable when a jet flies over the colonies. I've heard those voices hundreds of times in suburbs of Karachi. And the route which mehdi told very much perfectly plausible to me as I've always seen Mirages flying in these areas so often.

second thing is that they take up the route Surjani -> Sohrab Goth -> Liaqtabad ->Masroor. Draw these lines on google earth and you will understand. secondly, has anyone in DHA ever seen low flying fighters there? the runways are not even aligned this way to support fightes flying low in this area for even taking off.
even if pilots(special force of the project manager) fly low there, they probably dont want these towers to be tall :lol:

M point exactly...and yes I've many a times watched that route of Mirages.

Well lets hope they sort everything out between themselves.

Like gentlemen.

to be honest i have never seen airforce jet flying that low near dha and clifton
i have lived 4 years in dha

End of construction scene of dolmen twin towers

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/136/403946425_a82fe3cea0_o.jpg

more photos on Karachi album:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/creating2000/

Wow and ugh.

Wow, if the buildings will actually be 60 stories. Ugh, because the design is so ugly. If it really matches the design and quality of the 19-story tower already built then it does not bode well. This looks like a typical desi-style building on a grand scale.

By the way, is this design even real or is it just a rendering by an amateur? I think it's NOT real.

And why do the buildings taper off as you go higher? The artist has tried to create a sense of perspective in which he fails. It's not even a good quality fake rendering.

hahaa Being into morphing my self, I can see that the artist simply took the lower-middle portion of tower 2, and copied and pasted it. later, he merged them all, and stretched the image to give it this tapered look. finally, he topped it off with the roof part :)

@ alam
so you did figured it out.. no wonder i've just tried to show off my photoshop skills :)

@Karachiite
wateva!! atleast you'r trapped into illusion in which i'm succeeded. :banana:

@ alam
so you did figured it out.. no wonder i've just tried to show off my photoshop skills :)

@Karachiite
wateva!! atleast you'r trapped into illusion in which i'm succeeded. :banana:

anyway its geometrically totally wrong...
even if made "copy - paste', u should have used the same scale as it is used for the already built structure ....
the one made clearly shows the difference.... anyone can recognize it .... it would be a good effeort ... if its made considering the same scale (btw idea is good :) )

yup, the design is horrible

the buildings should have more glass

this building looks like its being build in the 1920's

anyway its geometrically totally wrong...
even if made "copy - paste', u should have used the same scale as it is used for the already built structure ....
the one made clearly shows the difference.... anyone can recognize it .... it would be a good effeort ... if its made considering the same scale (btw idea is good :) )

LETS SEE IF THIS ONE IS WORKING FOR CHEEKY GUYS :lol:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/127/406056404_dc89f1d25d.jpg?v=0

There was a rendering of the entire Dolmen City Project in Dawn Newspaper a couple of years ago; I fail to recall the exact date.

The Twin towers were shown to be 60 storeys, with a blue glass and steel facade.

However, plans can change and the final design of the towers may be different now.

Hope that can clear up some of the more rampant speculation:)

LETS SEE IF THIS ONE IS WORKING FOR CHEEKY GUYS :lol:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/127/406056404_dc89f1d25d.jpg?v=0



did you actully make that yourself, cos i can tell you that the real buildings will look something simular to that,

@ alam
so you did figured it out.. no wonder i've just tried to show off my photoshop skills :)

@Karachiite
wateva!! atleast you'r trapped into illusion in which i'm succeeded. :banana:

haha But its pretty Impressive though:)

@alam
thats the whole idea to give people an advance view of skyscrapers

@punjab
yes i did it by myself but for you guys :)

@Hierophant
we actually cannot use steel on such a huge structures alongwith the "arabian sea" and yes illustrations and rendering looks much pretty on computers and papers only

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/142/407338087_a91d42c0d7_o.jpg

skyscrapers are go!!!
:cheers:

:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:

Impressive....but plz give a detail on how did u make it????

looks a bit too tall then wat it suppose to be

is this a rendering or are these buildings built?

is this a rendering or are these buildings built?

they are build:)