Here is an article which was published in Blacktown City Sun that sums up the highrise boom the area is currently experiencing mentioning some proposals for the Blacktown CBD. I don't know when it was published as they didn't include a date with the article.

Up goes Main Street WehbeApartments asksfor14storeys

Proving Westpoint isn't the only big business interested in the future of Blacktown, Wehbe Apartments has lodged an application to upscale its previously approved plan for a highrise development in the CBD.

The group recently submitted a plan to increase the size of its development on the corner of Main Street and Newton Road (the former McDonald's site) from nine storeys to 14.

The amended plan would comprise two levels of commercial-retail space, capped by a 12 level residential block.

There would also be five basement car parking levels to accommodate 182 cars, expected from the businesses and the 82 residential units.

The previous application, which was approved in January this year, allowed for 46 residential units over two levels of basement car parking with 99 spaces.

While not yet discussed by council, the application is permissible in the current zone and requires only council's consent.

Blacktown Council environmental and planning policy director Glennys James said the Main Street development was one of around five similar applications that would soon be before the council.

She said the only other approved highrise mixed development so far was located near the bus interchange on the northern side of Blacktown Station.

It is for two blocks, one 25 storeys and the other 10.

Ms James said the four applications still to go before the council were also located on the northern side.

The largest is an application for a 27-storey development on the corner of First Avenue and Prince Street.

Another application includes three separate 16-storey buildings in Second Avenue.

Ms James said there was a trend towards mixed commercial-residential developments.

The Main Street application will be on public display from August 27 to September 10 and submissions should be lodged with the council prior to the closing date.

Jesus christ almight, Blacktown is like 35 k's west of Syd CBD and 10 k's north of Parramatta isnt it?
Imagine how well this place would do if it had a more politically correct / marketable name ?

Jesus christ almight, Blacktown is like 35 k's west of Syd CBD and 10 k's north of Parramatta isnt it?
Imagine how well this place would do if it had a more politically correct / marketable name ?

It's 30km west of the city, and 10km to the west of Parramatta. It's the outermost regional centre in Sydney to contain scrapers. Liverpool isn't too far behind. I wonder if those on the outer ring (Penrith & Campbelltown) have anything tall up their sleeve.

Mind you ...... all of these projects are in good locations, therefore once they are built will change the complete look of the area. I've never been one for Blacktown of all places, but I have to admit, it is going thru one major overhaul and it seems to be snow balling along fine .... :)

Blacktown gets a new commercial/residential tower of 13 levels. Construction soon starts on this tower located at 130 Main street Blacktown. Its being built by Better Buildings Pty Ltd and is being leased by Richardson & Wretch Parramatta.

There's a pic of it in this weeks Parramatta Sun. Its on a corner with a nice curved look. A big improvement for Blacktown.

thankx max! ill add to ss.com.

Here are the details from this weeks Parramatta Sun .....

Its a 16 level residential / commercial building located on a prominent corner of Blacktown .....

26-28 Second Avenue Blacktown.

It will contain 12 one bedroom and 97 two bedroon units inc retail/commercial at the base.

The tower I think will be called "Prominent". The selling agents are Richardson and Wrench - Parramatta.

^ thanks again. i think Blacktown is only city in the world listed on ss.com with 0 existing skyscrapers BUT 10 proposed! what a boom. hopefully some will start soon.

^ thanks again. i think Blacktown is only city in the world listed on ss.com with 0 existing skyscrapers BUT 10 proposed! what a boom. hopefully some will start soon.

This tower may actually be rising. I saw something in that area the other week. This tower in on the other side of the rail line to the Westpoint Shopping Centre which is progressing at a significant rate.

The shopping complex was always going to be the catalyst that would start the construction of talls in the Blacktown CBD.

There are pictures of these buildings in the Parramatta Sun but not on-line.

The is building is block shaped and may in fact have a 17th level because there looks to be a penthouse type addition to the main corner. :)

feb 5thyetyry

-----------------------Information with drawn-------------------------

Thanks Peter. From my knowledge the ATO Building is the only scraper out there at the moment at around nine-ten storeys tall. It's good to the region despite being so far from the city embracing the skyscraper!!!! It will good to see a small skyline emerge over the next few years.

infact the ATO is quite a dam fine building too... heres a little info www.bonaccigroup.com/aaoff.html

oh yeah its the third last one

Very interesting and it was only going to be a matter of time .....

ok i have the mapes of new parks and a model and diagram of the project but there on adobe reader and i dont know how too post or covert them anyone help?

^^
1. Open the pdf and scroll to the page with the pic so that the image you want is showing on the screen.
2. Press the "Print Screen" button on your keyboard.
3. Go into a picture editor and open a new picture (blank) and then select paste and the screen shot you copied will be pasted, then you can trim the pic so it shows just the image.

Hopefully this makes sense! :)

god this is crap

ok i worked out how to print it so i'll just take a picture of it lol

the ATO bldg in Penrith is 45m tall.http://www.bonaccigroup.com/images/Watopen.jpg
Hopefully they will get taller
you can see it at bottom of aerial
http://www.penrithvalley.com.au/pvimages/doingbusiness/ArialShotPenrith.jpg

real map of city.
http://www.sydney-australia.biz/maps/penrith.gif

I cant believe the current population of Penrith is 180,000. thats about same as Hobart?
penriths area covers 407sqkm!

penriths area covers 407sqm!

???

i left out K. 407sqkm.
lol

Penrith city goal is to double in the next 10yrs......i have the locations of the building and the dialgrams Cull but i cant work out acrobat reader to post them

the Largest is a 20 story OFFICE building between the ATO and the q theather

btw cull those pictures are cool but there over 10yrs old lol ;)

yeah .all i could find. hey maybe email the pdf file to me and ill see what i can do.
20storey office? thats about 80m tall!!!

Penrith city goal is to double in the next 10yrs......i have the locations of the building and the dialgrams Cull but i cant work out acrobat reader to post them

the Largest is a 20 story OFFICE building between the ATO and the q theather

Email me the pdf Peter and I'll get the pic off it and post it. Not home till Sunday though so it will take a couple of days, but I will post it up here ASAP. :)

:)

your not going to believe this. i subitted the city of Penrith as a metro city for Sydney and it was approved in 24 hrs. so i went to submit bldgs and start a city description and i noticed that it had a city desciption already. it stated that the township was the capital of Cumbria in the 9th & 10th centuries and has streets dating back to the 13th Century.lol.
so obviously it the Penrith in UK. so awaiting editor to change to Australia;s Penrith.

hey Cull i can give you facts if you want...? i have heeps of detail

http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/410/pcc2ou.jpg
Penrith didnt come up on emporis why?

pete. read my post no 19. im still waiting for chief eds to add penrith.


i blew up the ATO pic so you can see it a bit better.
not bad for a gov office bldg

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/9882/atobig8pa.jpg

cull have you seen the two latest offices in penrith recently completed? one has a AAA rating

By The way heres (crap picture from my phone)
Picture of Penriths canon
http://i160.exs.cx/img160/9905/penrithcity9oz.jpg
add heres another on a crap day add as you can tell its a mid in the car driving shot i'll get a sun shot asap
http://img199.exs.cx/img199/7198/img16476al.jpg

great. should have some companions soon enough.

thanks pete. heres map you emailed me

http://img201.exs.cx/img201/7070/penrithmap8ru.jpg

on the first part where theres a bit oh yellow to the right of picture just bihind that is where theres a 85m highrise office proposed

update:
the new tower is supose to have a citigroup (sydney) style spire on it, lets hope it get approved (BTW the spire isnt apart of the 85m height!)

Picture of Penriths ATO building
http://img207.exs.cx/img207/3118/img23029ml.jpg
http://img207.exs.cx/img207/2577/img23030cv.jpg

Penrith is just at the beging of its biggest boom ever! here two Offices (not high rise) that has started the boom.
AAA rated 295 HIGH street penrith (national bank)
http://img235.exs.cx/img235/3341/img22958lr.jpg
http://img235.exs.cx/img235/3171/img22980wd.jpg
http://img235.exs.cx/img235/4240/img22995xr.jpg
and this office build of which i dont know much about
http://img235.exs.cx/img235/9732/img22935ay.jpg

there are 7 + high rises prposed i will take picture when they start to rise

any news if penrith got a page in emporis

well i am the editor for Sydney and burbs and i started one last week but it was created and ended up under UK's penrith in Cumbria. Ive asked a few times since to alter it so its the Sydney Penrith but no response yet? ill keep trying

posted earlyier by thewrekoning88 ===
hey everyone! Penrith CBD is having a lot of developments and other things going on do you think it can become a new Parramatta? I live in St Clair and it would be good if it could so there would be many more things to do. I also recently found out that the Penrith Lakes will built a new suburb there by 2010, it will also have a beach which could have a wave pool.

i'll start with the small ones

RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT SITE - DA APPROVED
PENRITH
PENRITH CITY
Unquestionably one of the prime locations in this fast growing area.
Just a stroll to the re-development of Penrith Plaza, Penrith Station and Panthers Rugby League Club.
Visually imposing, the Approved development offers a development opportunity with virtually no opposition.

To be sold with all construction certificate drawings, Geotech report, as well as engineering plans and powered model of building.

LAND SIZE APPROXIMATELY 1,629 SQ METRES.
YIELDING - 2 GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL OFFICES, 31 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 53 BASEMENT PARKING.
http://img216.exs.cx/img216/9598/penrithdevelopment2is.jpg

http://www.penrithplaza.com.au/llretail/penrithplaza/main.nsf/all/wh_development_mapsphotos_jan05?opendocument

ok, ive got Penrith up on ss.com!
ive added ATO bldg so far!
please let me know of any others!
cheers

i shore will , would you like any skyline pices or any other pictures for emporis cull?

Trivia: Penrith in UK is pronounced Pen-RITH. Is it just me or is that prettier than PENr'th, or should that be PENr'ff?

pete, ive added the 5storey apartment tower as a lowrise. so it will be located under "lowrise". whats the address?
cheers

oh its between 530 and 550 High street but im not shore address as my server is down just put high street at the moment
of and iv got one for famous buildings.....

Holiday inn Penrith panthers should that be listed in the building on emporis

^ maybe as a lowrise.
its 4storeys
>
http://image.pegs.com/images/HI/SYDPP/sydpp_b1.jpg

http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/410/pcc2ou.jpg
yeah i was working on that ^ but i want good pictures not just the one off the web site

Is there really any point listing 4 and 5 story buildings? There are thousands of them through the suburbs of Sydney.

^ yeah but not in Penrith. when a city hasnt many highrise, maight as well list the lowrise as well.

^both good points
but im only talking about important low rise eg. John soverlan centre ,Penrith panthers etc...
not just any building

front page ss.com>>
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/?id=109272

well well well hasnt the area just north of the station changed i counted about 10 new buildings , cull i'll post some pictures and info for you for emporis

http://www.airviewonline.com.au/photos/0403/1906/0403-1906-62.jpg

nice

just wish it was bigger and no watermark

Cool. I never realised the railway yards were so wide. Is there any news on the proposed developments on the northern side of the station? Supposed to be a cool mixed, medium/high density development in the future. Mr Maloney?

#update
Penrith Plaza - 48% complete
969 High street - Complete
535 - Stage 2 DA
Evole Tower - Pre DA (possible 20 st)

Cool. I never realised the railway yards were so wide. Is there any news on the proposed developments on the northern side of the station? Supposed to be a cool mixed, medium/high density development in the future. Mr Maloney?
sorry about HUGE delay

there are currently no DA or even propsals on the other side (army owned land)

evolve tower- 20storeys? wow more info please!

cull im trying but as usual im having trouble with acrobat! im trying to get a rough render

Penrith... what a hole!
Hahaha just playing.

I was at Krispy Kreme the other night..
Hadn't been to Penrith for a few years but High Street and the CBD looks the same. Will have to check out the new Plaza once its done though.

any developments or gossip about penrith post it here. yay panthers won thats hot

any developments or gossip about penrith post it here.
Thats what the thread's for ;)

lol sorry

does anyone have any recent photos of penrith all sorts aerial, cbd, can you post them pls.

Yeah Ok Wreckoning .......sorry i have not been on line lately

hey you know that site emporis.com how come theres only two building for penrith, if its important buildings only shoulnt nepean hospital be one of them, thats pretty tall and that joan sutherland building and the penrith rsl.

Not tall enough to be listed as highrise, there are a couple of buildings also listed in the low-rise section.

^wrecking i am currently working on some pictures on some recent low rise and the future high rise development for Penrith, which hopefully cull will place on emporis for me

oh kool thanks maloney! btw do u go for the panthers?

The Nepean Hospital looks quite large but not tall/ 5or6 storeys?
http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/areas/wahs/jmo/images/nepean.jpg

oh kool thanks maloney! btw do u go for the panthers?
of course ;)

cull that picture - i think its abit old there a couple new parts to it now the east wing etc...

just incase anyone missed it .....Penrith plaza is now WESTFIELD PENRITH

why does it seem that everyone on Sydney forums wants to talk about damn shopping centres?? i cant stand them. leave it to the gals.
lets talk about skyscrapers!

^i agree but its huge news for Penrith i guess.

im having dificultly geting a render for elvo

why does it seem that everyone on Sydney forums wants to talk about damn shopping centres?? i cant stand them. leave it to the gals.
lets talk about skyscrapers!

A shopping centre/strong retail base helps to build a regional centre which inspires further high-rise development. Think about it...Chatswood, Parramatta, Hurstville, Bondi Junction etc. It is all related. :)

shopping centres are fun especially when your being paid by a philippine company to do so... like i am even though im only 17. anyways the best building in sydney i relation to culwullas request to talk bout buildings has to be chifley tower... to bad it doesnt have a nice retail precinct like world tower or market city... westfield penrith hope its gonna be good

shopping centres are fun especially when your being paid by a philippine company to do so... like i am even though im only 17. anyways the best building in sydney i relation to culwullas request to talk bout buildings has to be chifley tower... to bad it doesnt have a nice retail precinct like world tower or market city... westfield penrith hope its gonna be good

Actually, Chifley Plaza is a much nicer shopping area than Market City or World Square.

its classy and a lot more upmarket thats all i have to say. either way chifley tower is an impressive building

Please keep on subject "penrith projects"

A shopping centre/strong retail base helps to build a regional centre which inspires further high-rise development. Think about it...Chatswood, Parramatta, Hurstville, Bondi Junction etc. It is all related. :)
yeah i understand finn, but i was just saying that the shopping centre threads were the only threads being posted in the NSW threads which is a bit of a worry. never mind. :cheers:

the hospital is 6 stories at it peek

http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/410/pcc2ou.jpg
Great news for Penrith!
Penrith is about to release 8 new suburbs to boost the population up to 231,032.
The following new suburbs will add a 35,952 populate growth over the next 20 years.
1. ADI St Marys
2. Penrith Lakes
3. Lakes Environs
4. North Penrith
5. Werrington Signals
6. Caddens Release Area
7. Glenmore Park
8. Claremont Meadows

Here is a picture of the Land release area's
http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/3388/penrithlocalareaprofileaugust2.png
http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/410/pcc2ou.jpg

this is off topic but Pete, in ur signature you forgot about GoldCoast. ;)

^edited

What is "Urban Release Areas"?

^the new suburb Area's/estates

yeah i understand finn, but i was just saying that the shopping centre threads were the only threads being posted in the NSW threads which is a bit of a worry. never mind. :cheers:

Yeah - I guess that's cause there's not as much happening in the tower construction department as there has been in the past. Things will come around again for tower construction though, and similarly shopping centre expansions will die down. :)

news update coming soon...



Please visit www.urbanheaven.co.nr and register for News updates on Penrith


Thank You

I couldn't find a thread dedicated to Blacktown, but just had a question regarding the info on Emporis. Of the 10 high-rise shown nine are confirmed. I'm sure last time I looked it said 4/5 approved/proposed. Has this been recently updated?

Great to here it will have 100m and 80m towers going up. I've only driven through Blacktown once and passed through on the train a few times. I'm expecting cranes everywhere next time I go. It'll be interesting to see how the M7 affects it's business activity.

Give me a refresher: Where roughly is blacktown. I've got a mindblank.

im editor for Blacktown on emporis.its approx 40km west of Sydney!
im not sure about any that have started. but i dont think they have yet. you would know about it in realestate sites ect

theres 9 approved, and 1 proposed

link>
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/bu/sk/li/?id=104871&bt=2&ht=2&sro=1

.its approx 40km west of Sydney!

More like 30km.

^ yeah your probably right. i know its about 40min drive from the city.

there are about 12 mid rises nearly complete with one big one about to start (i think the biggest)

there seems to be alot of 4-6 storey blocks of flats going up?
like this one>
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/8993/101598993mm1098243077.jpg


we need someone with guts to take the plunge and build a skyscraper!

^ That one is just about finished.

I drive thru Blacktown every day to get to work. I havent seen much activity yet involving tall cranes - just the mid-rises as Cuwalla says. Blacktown is situated on a sort of hill - so any skyscraper would stand out like dog 's balls. :) The library has been redeveloped recently and it has a modern facade.

Norwest, also in that neck of the woods, is seeing a lot of activity - but nothing enough to peirce the skyline.

If i ever have time I will take some pics of Blacktown and Norwest....and Liverpool as promised. I just feel like an idiot pulling out the camera, not to mention the fear of being mugged ;)

I went out to Blactown today (my dad has a house in St. Mary's) and got some pics of the area. Alot of school kids at that time, made me nervous to be seen with a camera. There are a couple of good buildings, Westpoint office tower looks high-rise to me, sticking out above the shopping centre. I'll post the pics tomorrow.

I also got some Castle Hill pics. Castle Hill towers looks like the biggest shopping centre I've seen, didn't look to gig to begin with but just kept going. I'm also working on some Liverpool pics, I'm always there at night.

lenny, i found fabians blacktown thread, so i merged them. your thread starts from post 12.
cheers

Alright, here are some pics. I wish I did some photography at uni, it is an addictive past time.

This is from a roof towards the south, can't remember the complex. It was a stand alone parking centre.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3157/blacktown0014ti.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2372/blacktown0088ih.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/5554/blacktown0073st.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1496/blacktown0183xt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I also got on the roof of Westpoint shopping for some more.

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2699/blacktown0194wi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6892/blacktown0257pb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4909/blacktown0293ix.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6957/blacktown0311zf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Then I walked around, took some pics from the station in particular.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5629/blacktown0333pt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/5522/blacktown0368mk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/7272/blacktown0458rf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And while driving around, I saw this. On the train line to the east.

http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/7626/blacktown0498kk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sorry I don't have more of a description. These show the Westpoint, the silver building near the station, some residential buildings I think I've seen the render for, and the RTA/glass building near the Blacktown Workers Club(?)

Just wondering where building in the Hills District go in Emporis, if any. I saw a mid to high rise behing Castle Towers the other day, and found a website for some commercial buildings in the area.

http://www.norwestbusinesspark.com.au/cybo/home.htm

Reminds me of Macquarie Park.

I don't think any of them are tall enough to be defined as skyscrapers.

There must be a height limit of some sort. I havent seen anything over 6 storeys. though it sure is sureal seeing these office blocks going up in the middle of a residential area of new housing estates. It will also have good access to the M7 via Norwest Boulevard. There definatley is some heavyweight companies relocating there.

Yeah that building behind Castle Towers would easily be over 12 stories (something like 13-15?). It is actaully well designed and good in quality. I have been wanting to take a pic but i'm a lazy s.o.b.

Yeah i saw that the last time i was up, its definately the tallest thing around....I think its apartments isnt it? Its on the old Castle Hill Primary land yeh?

I git a pic of the building, but it is dark and blurry. It looks tiny compared to Castle Towers, a fair bit down the hill.

It might be worth it to start a new metro area with one high rise and low rise in other buildings.

I haven't been there for a while now, but I think the building is about 10 storeys, and is indeed apartments, and includes the Castle Hill library on the bottom two floors.

It is a bit hidden behind the Castle Towers cinemas etc which totally dominate the area.

There is (of course) a lot of public opinion against further high rise developments in the area, being an area with large houses and big gardens, although there is a lot of low rise apartment developmetn around Castle Hill centre, all around 3-6 storeys.

Yeah....Its my old hood. used to live walking distance from the Towers, its amazing how it has changed in the last ten years. Castle Towers has had two massive expansions, castle hill primary has been razed and rebuilt and now this apartment tower....all seemingly without any NIMBYism....its very odd. But there are ALOT of wealthy Honk Kong and Indian families in Castle Hill/ West Pennent Hills and Cherrybrook now.... they arent so anti development me thinks.

The area will lose its character if it is overdeveloped. Sometimes you wish things remain as they are. :)

The Hills district ia a beautiful area, the nicest non-waterfront burbs in Sydney IMO

As promised, I got off my arse today and took some shots of Liverpool from Lions Lookout.

As discussed before, Liverpool is fast becoming a tale of two cites,
with the residential towers hugging the northern section of the CBD
and the office towers converging on the south >>>>> scroll right to see.

I hope it is clear enough *fingers crossed*
If you look closely on the horizon you can see the silouette of
Kogarah ...at least I think it is Kogarah. Enjoy :)

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/9695/liverpoolpanorama5ri.jpg

I promise to take some close ups of the cluster of residential
towers springing up on the left and the Westfield
Redevelopment/Extension in the near future. :bash:

italo- cant see pic?
please use www.imageshack.us
its the best and most reilable webhost around.
cheers

Thanks Cull :) Damn Image Station - given me nothing but trouble!

Well it is sourcing the image from Image Shack now, so I hope it has worked. Let me know if you still cant see it. I risked potential muggings, discarded syringes, and stabbings for that shot. It will be a shame if nobody can see it.

great! i think youll find thats Bankstown in distance.
so Dept of Housing still tallest? whats the big proect to the left?

http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/2918/northcbd1zw.jpg

The building with the dark green scaffolding mesh is Corner of Lachlan and Bigge Sts - Render can be found in emporis. Unfortunatley it hasnt got a name yet. It will be 12-storeys high when completed, which equals Dept. of Housing - although the latter may still be higher considering it is a commercial building and it has a small room on its 12th floor that is freckeld with telecom. antennas and dishes.

The building with blue scaffolding mesh is a mystery to me, but judging by the size of the crane it will also be 12-storeys high. :)

I dont think the buildings on the horizon are Banstown, they are too far off in the distance. I's hard to say ...mmmm....maybe Bondi Junction? :dunno:

Actually if you take a line thru Lions lookout and the northern part of the Liverpool CBD it meets up with Hurtsville, then Kogarah. Bankstown is way to the north. Besides I dont think Bankstown has that many high-rises.

hmm maybe Hurstville?
cheers

Nice pic. I like seeing cranes on the horizon. I think that is Bankstown, the closest high rise centre and not too small. I can't wait to see Liverpool, Blacktown and Penrith in ten years time. They should all be Parramatta like by then

I risked potential muggings, discarded syringes, and stabbings for that shot. It will be a shame if nobody can see it.


Are you just joking or is it really that bad?

No, but I did see a used syringe in the park where I took that photo. The problem is Cabramatta is probably now the safest place to be in Sydney beacause of all the patrols, security, etc...So all the bad eggs just move away into another area that is under less seurveillance. You see Bob Carr didnt fix the problems in Cabramatta, he just moved it away from Cabramatta.

Liverpool is normally quite peaceful. The beauty is that there is no major race dominating the make up of the city. Which keeps a good balance. It just sometimes spills over, especially on Thursday nights at Westfield. Dont know why :dunno: I was never attracted to hanging out there when I was in my teens.

Cool great to see the pano, looks like a huge build-up of buildings in the northern sector. I would guess that is Hurstville in the distance, as Bankstown, although it has a few high(ish)-rises, is more in a valley.

As for the thursday night, sounds quite a lot like Westfield Parramatta on thursday nights. Damn those people who like to cause trouble in those places :bash:

Found some real estate info for the apartment tower in Castle Hill

http://www.justlisted.com.au/sp/jlresdisplay.asp?prop=144502&ag=1882&fr=agplist&unit=

Looks to be at least ten stories tall in the pic.

Also, if you go to the Baulkham Hills website, it has some videos advertising the area. Impressive for a council website

http://www.baulkhamhills.nsw.gov.au/movies/index.aspx

I found this article regarding the Hills. Has some interesting points. I agree houses should be retained, instead of 14 storey apartment blocks in Castle Hills I'd rather see 70 storey World Towers near major stations and roads.

http://www.population.org.au/events/spf2001mr.htm

the Horizons is 10storeys high but 9storeys above main entrance. or 30m/100ft.

http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/1882/x5160sc100_2619.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/2575/102462575ml1118369536.jpg

not a bad view of the bush
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/2573/102462573ml1118809464.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/7892/102547892dl1121748891.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/7892/102547892cl1121748891.jpg

you can see the slope of land which adds the 10th floor.

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/7892/102547892ml1121748890.jpg

I found this article regarding the Hills. Has some interesting points. I agree houses should be retained, instead of 14 storey apartment blocks in Castle Hills I'd rather see 70 storey World Towers near major stations and roads.

http://www.population.org.au/events/spf2001mr.htm


But there is a proposed rail line from Epping to Rouse Hill via Castle Hill. It makes sense to keep the density high around the proposed train stations. 99% of the hills district are low-density, so I really don't understand why people make a fuss about having 1% high-density area just around the proposed train stations. People blindly believe the high density development is the causes of the congestion but they don't realise the low density suburban sprawl actually makes it worse. It really annoys me.

But there is a proposed rail line from Epping to Rouse Hill via Castle Hill. It makes sense to keep the density high around the proposed train stations. 99% of the hills district are low-density, so I really don't understand why people make a fuss about having 1% high-density area just around the proposed train stations. People blindly believe the high density development is the causes of the congestion but they don't realise the low density suburban sprawl actually makes it worse. It really annoys me.

The Castle Hill line has been scrapped indefinately, unviable apparently....odd considering the NW is one of the fastest growing areas of Sydney and its already imploding under its own weight....oh well thats NSW planning for you. :bash:

The Castle Hill line has been scrapped indefinately, unviable apparently....odd considering the NW is one of the fastest growing areas of Sydney and its already imploding under its own weight....oh well thats NSW planning for you. :bash:

No it hasn't. It was just announced a month or two ago as part of the $8 billion rail line under the harbour. Includes NW link to Rouse Hill and SW to Leppington.

No it hasn't. It was just announced a month or two ago as part of the $8 billion rail line under the harbour. Includes NW link to Rouse Hill and SW to Leppington.


Exactly, it was all over the newspaper. So it all makes sense that the government wants to develop high density apartments around the proposed rail line, it's all part of the Sydney's long-term metropolitan strategy.

^^^ Oh well it was initially planned as following on from the Chatswood, Macquarie link, then canned last year, it must have been in preparation for this new project....

Yeah, it's been one of those on-again, off-again things. It looks like it'll definitely go through this time though.

Perfect....now that i dont live there anymore. Just in time....yes its all about me =p

Anyone know what's happening with Castle Towers and the next expansion? I had heard talk about it but I can't say I have been out there shopping lately to see if anything has been done yet.

Perfect....now that i dont live there anymore. Just in time....yes its all about me =p


It will take next 15-20 years anyway, so don't worry, you haven't missed much. :)

Anyone know what's happening with Castle Towers and the next expansion? I had heard talk about it but I can't say I have been out there shopping lately to see if anything has been done yet.

Don't "worry", they certainly haven't started anything yet, The owners of Castle Towers are very secretive, or just hard to get information from, but they are planning another (smaller than earlier expansions) expansion, to take into account Castle Mall across Old Northern Road, which they purchased last year. Don't know what they are planning at this stage. It will still be a few years I would guess before something happens.

Cheers

Owned by QIC isnt it? Scuttle butt is that they're having problems raising development capital for the Castle Mall expansion. To quote Kimmy they've "over capitalised and they're really happy about that"

Cool great to see the pano, looks like a huge build-up of buildings in the northern sector. I would guess that is Hurstville in the distance, as Bankstown, although it has a few high(ish)-rises, is more in a valley.


Thanks ParraMan, but I'd rather see more office towers being built in the southern section. As of now, I only know of one going up, and that is only 7 storeys high on Macquarie St :( See below
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid173/pf96e0e9512a8fbfd73bddd6c041e6cd6/f3ab8406.jpg

There is another 8-storey office tower going up in Northumberland St....but who knows how far off that is.

I was initially angry at Gabrielle Kibble for quashing both the Multiplex and Eagle towers, but after much thought, I guess I agree with her. I'd rather see more commercial buildings gleaming in the sunlight than dull matte-finish concrete blocks with balconies. They disguise balconies better in the city, but not out west. :dunno:

Cool great to see the pano, looks like a huge build-up of buildings in the northern sector. I would guess that is Hurstville in the distance, as Bankstown, although it has a few high(ish)-rises, is more in a valley.

As for the thursday night, sounds quite a lot like Westfield Parramatta on thursday nights. Damn those people who like to cause trouble in those places :bash:

It's definitely Hurstville. I recognise its skyline just about anywhere. It seems to look almost the same from all angles, too, which is odd.

I'd also love to see more of the office-type developments going up, the current office stock in Liverpool is relatively old, and most likely also of poor quality due to age etc. Is good to see the 7 storey one going up, even though not much in terms of height, adds newer dimension to the office sector, and thus attracts attention from possible (future) tenants...or maybe I am just dreaming.

As for the apartment buildings going up, from the images I've seen in other Liverpool threads, the quality is very good, especially considering Liverpool is not in the eastern or inner suburbs.

hmm maybe Hurstville?
cheers

I'd agree with Hurstville as it's located to the South/South East of Liverpool. Keep in mind it has a long skyline which you can see in the shot. You cannot see Kogarah from the west as a ridge rises west of the suburb from Carlton & Bexley.

I don't think I've heard mention of buildings in Campbelltown. I was wondering how tall some of these buildings in the "city centre" are, and what plans there are for Campbelltown. I got these when my car broke down near the station.

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/9728/campbelltown0037zp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1821/campbelltown0090ml.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/5615/campbelltown0106rd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/3267/campbelltown0139gm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/6879/campbelltown0159xb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I didn't get over to Macarthur Square as I wanted to. At the moment Campbelltown reminds me very much of Blacktown and Bankstown, funnily enough. I wonder if it will boom as Blacktown is set to.

i spent some of most of my teens in Campbelltown.horrible place.absolutely nothing going for it.
i think the 8storey council bldg is still the tallest bldg.
theres a large 6 storey octagonal ofice bldg out near mac sq.
i dont think theres any plans for highrise units. no reason to add more slums.
the area is rife with unemployment and crime.nothing to do out there.
i was over the moon when i left there.

That's a bit harsh Cull?!?!? But never the less Cambelltown has had its fair share of bad publicity. The Mac Field riots didnt really push the real-eatse market through the roof. But there are still suburbs like Glen Alpine and Maquarie Links where you cant find a property under 1/2 a million! :runaway:

Seems to be the case somewhat whenever you get that far from the city centre, at least to the west. But I'm sure it will improve as more people and money flow into the area.

Sometimes when I here what councils have to say I can't believe their talking about the same area. They always make there LGA sound like a tourist area.

That's a bit harsh Cull?!?!? But never the less Cambelltown has had its fair share of bad publicity. The Mac Field riots didnt really push the real-eatse market through the roof. But there are still suburbs like Glen Alpine and Maquarie Links where you cant find a property under 1/2 a million! :runaway:
bit harsh? lol, hey spent alot of time around MINTO, LEUMEAH at infamous housing commission. seen alot of stuff. yes there is nice suburbs now, but back in 80;s they were being developed. spose there built now. still suburbs like AIRDs and CLAYMORE are still tragic.

btw great pix

Great Pictures, I looking into Cambelltown for you and there are only Units going up no highrise at all on the board. BTW Cull i have to agree to a degree i felt unsafe there even on a saturday at Noon.

Big surface carparks are ugly!

Now Now - I grow up in Ruse and Bradbury, and did years 10, 11 and 12 at Airds High - and I came out ok. :crazy2:

bit harsh? lol, hey spent alot of time around MINTO, LEUMEAH at infamous housing commission. seen alot of stuff. yes there is nice suburbs now, but back in 80;s they were being developed. spose there built now. still suburbs like AIRDs and CLAYMORE are still tragic.

btw great pix

Great Pictures, I looking into Cambelltown for you and there are only Units going up no highrise at all on the board. BTW Cull i have to agree to a degree i felt unsafe there even on a saturday at Noon.

I guess Campbelltown is an area suited more to industry, with any office workers travelling to city, Liverpool, Parra, etc.

As for the builings, I still can't quite judge what is high rise yet. Those builings look 35m+, but more likely 25-30 I guess. The cut off should be 50m, make it a bit more manageable to identify them all.

That first pic is the Council Chambers... I worked there from May last year to June this year!! Brings back the memories! Campbelltown Centre is disjointed and it's exacerbated by the massive Macarthur Square that's just a couple of Km's away. Not much office development going on per se, but the draft residential DCP that was still in draft form when I left was permitting higher residential development in the Campbelltown town center.

It's definitely not on fire like Liverpool. Amusingingly the main Labour candidate for Macquarie Fields (by election this Sat) is very much against any sort of high-rise development. As a Councilor, Steve Chaytor was always bitching about any high-rise development in Ingleburn and other suburbs.. So any future high-rise in the area is in for a tough fight. :(

Now Now - I grow up in Ruse and Bradbury, and did years 10, 11 and 12 at Airds High - and I came out ok. :crazy2:
did you? Airds high? and you survived? lol
that would of toughened you.
my brother lived in Cook Rd, Ruse for years and finally made the move to Umina Beach 5 years ago. best move ever.lol
i suppose Campbelltown has got many nice areas but alot of mean places too which are a concern.

Yep, Airds High of 86. Although I have to say I only did years 10, 11 & 12 there, previously I was living and attending school in England when my famlity migrated here in 1983. So there was a 'culture shock' so to speak.

While living at home, we were in Bradbury, Ruse and then St Andrews (I chuckled at your Minto comment).

My parents currently live in Glen Alpine, but looking at the over development in the area (and the state of the hospital - read 'death by postcode'), I have to be brutally honest and say I wouldn't want to live there.

did you? Airds high? and you survived? lol
that would of toughened you.
my brother lived in Cook Rd, Ruse for years and finally made the move to Umina Beach 5 years ago. best move ever.lol
i suppose Campbelltown has got many nice areas but alot of mean places too which are a concern.

What is the least habitable place in Sydney? Campbelltown, Bankstown, Blacktown, Liverpool, Redfern, Fairfield are all the areas (councils) that come to mind. Punchbowl, Lakemba, Macquarie Fields, Mt. Druitt, Cabramatta are the suburbs.

Oh Man, do we really have to have this discussion? :runaway:

What is the least habitable place in Sydney? Campbelltown, Bankstown, Blacktown, Liverpool, Redfern, Fairfield are all the areas (councils) that come to mind. Punchbowl, Lakemba, Macquarie Fields, Mt. Druitt, Cabramatta are the suburbs.

Oh Man, do we really have to have this discussion? :runaway:

Just interested. I know I shouldn't dwell on the negatives, but from the perspective of someone moving to Sydney, where would they least likely go.

heres the first highrise units for city of Campbelltown! The 8storey MOSIAC Apartments in Leumeah.Curently Uc developed by Parkview Group
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/3630/102553630mm1121916363.jpg
here is stage 2 which is 6storeys

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/3630/102553630al1121916363.jpg
Also UC more highrise units for Campbelltown! the twin 6storey GREENBANK towers

http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/1223/x1572scview2final1sml.jpg

Just interested. I know I shouldn't dwell on the negatives, but from the perspective of someone moving to Sydney, where would they least likely go.

One of the Radburn estates for sure. Claymore, Minto, Bidwill.

One of the Radburn estates for sure. Claymore, Minto, Bidwill.

Of them I only know Minto. I was looking at crime figures and found most violence in Sydney to be in Campbelltown, Blactown, Marrickville and Penrith. The robbery figures were a little worrying though:

http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lawlink/bocsar/ll_bocsar.nsf/pages/bocsar_lgaranks_robbery04

With Strathfield, Burwood on top. I'm not sure if it's possible to make a correlation between living standards (crime, infrastructure, employment) and construction. Though it would be good to see how high-rise areas have been affected. Chatswood seems to have turned out really well, Liverpool is improving and Campbelltown is just starting to get high-rise (thanks Cull).

Sorry for the rambling, I was interested by Culwulla's first response on this thread

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/6879/campbelltown0159xb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


this looks 12 storeys


campelltown is part of sydney not a seperate city.

What is the least habitable place in Sydney? Campbelltown, Bankstown, Blacktown, Liverpool, Redfern, Fairfield are all the areas (councils) that come to mind. Punchbowl, Lakemba, Macquarie Fields, Mt. Druitt, Cabramatta are the suburbs.

My primary school was at Lakemba. Wasn't the best but i still enjoyed it.

I came out okay...i think.

:clown:

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/6879/campbelltown0159xb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


this looks 12 storeys


campelltown is part of sydney not a seperate city.
its 8 storeys and Campbelltown is its own city! yes its part of Sydney metro but its a city.

hey ive created a thread for western sydney so we can post about the new developments that are occuring in the area. does anyone know when those proposed towers for blacktown going to start to be constructed.
have a good holidays everyone! thank god can go to beach and just tan the rest of the day and shop and go out with the gf.
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www.myspace.com/losemybreath88
cyas

Yeah isn't the rule of thumb that any LGA with over 100,000 people can be considered a city? So there is the city of Campbelltown, City of Parramatta, City of Penrith, etc. Also, if you go to Campbelltown (I pass through on way to Wollongong every weekend, no reason for any non resident to visit other than that according to most people), as you enter or leave the signs say "Welcome to the City of Campbelltown". Just look at the picture...

But really adding city was just to get more interest.


Anyway, with the living standards issue, I guess businesses are attracted to an area by the 'quality' of the labour force (among other things off course). I believe this might explain why so much office space exists between Macquarie Park and North Sydney. Campbelltown has a more industrial image and workforce, not very alluring for the big corporations.

What you need here is links to these threads:

Parramatta (+Civic Place)
Liverpool
Blacktown
Penrith
Campbelltown
Bankstown
Baulkam Hills

then add information for Auburn (LGA includes Olympic Park) and Fairfield. The Fairfield CBD has ~5 mid-high rise buildings and more coming, I've got some pics to post.

I guess the Cumberland Highway would be a rough divider. Otherwise include Inner West Sydney thread.

hey cullwulla can u merge those groups to be put into this one

Here a some pics of Fairfield I took there recently.

From the roof of the plazza. I'm not familiar with the area so can't tell more than that. It was about ten levels high and to the north of the CBD.

The south pano

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4373/fairfieldpano9rt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Plus another view

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1366/fairfield0039xs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And some buildings to the east.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/540/fairfield0062uk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I could have sworn there was one building in fairfield on emporis, probably under low rise in Liverpool, but I can't find it now and there is no metro city. But it looks like strathfield to me.

Also there are some buildings in Riverwood that I might have posted pics of before. They stand out throughout the suburb.

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/3607/riverwood1013yn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/8729/riverwood1020wd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

There are two buildings about ten stories each. These could under low-rise in Hursteville, or Bankstown.

I don't know what the plans are for Silverwater, but it is between Parramatta and Olympic Park, has metroad 6 running through it and lies beside the water. Judging by this may have a business park future when industry moves out.

This is on corner of Parramaatta road and Silverwater rd.

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/7316/silverwater0015ho.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7571/silverwater0114bx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Just thought I'd add a pic from Auburn central, the council Silverwater/Homebush Bay comes under. Not the best to show the height of the building, more the change of the area, I didn't recognise this place at all having been away for ten or so years.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8158/auburn0102xm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Bankstown:

I took these a few months ago, South Terrace is finished now (well, the green mesh is gone).

http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/2305/bankstown0180ip.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/3805/bankstown0190jx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The two completed high-rise.

http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/9201/bankstown0249tq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/6387/bankstown0224bf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And another Bankstown ofice tower.

http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/6817/bankstown0273cr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This pdf contains some development information regarding Western Sydney. It recommends Liverpool to be Sydney's 3rd CBD (as we all know) and includes a height scheme for Olympic Park (not too many more at Novotel height).

http://www.gws.org.au/pdf/1031715996_3.pdf

Actually there is a fair bit of good stuff on this website.

http://www.gws.org.au/#

lennyr you sure get around! :eek: Where do you find the time?

Fairfield is going crazy with appartments, thanks to the Mayor Lalich - who is pro-highrise. :)

I remember most of these buildings of Auburn and Riverwood. I remember them going up while I was taking the train in to Uni.

Great to see some of the places we dont often talk about in this forum.

Indeed great to see you get around lennyr!! Fairfield really is going crazy with the apartments. I was there last end of 2003, and already looks quite a bit different. Pretty close to being another Strathfield!

I don't know if there's any pics out there of them, but the "three sisters" in Telopea/Dundas Valleyalso really stande out in the area, especially around Christmas when they have the big lit-up christmas tree on top of one of them.

Cheers

i dont think its a good idea merging threads. It becomes a pain seraching through the many pages. like the melbourne "north side or 'south side" threads. The citys like Liverpool & Campbelltown , blacktown are so far apart, would only get confusing.
Same goes for Parramatta. we had a fairfiled thread once and now its deleted bacuse no one posted in it and it fell of last page.

btw great pic of Bankstown tower!
As far as i know, no one has guts to start any units in Blacktown atm. as soon as someone does the place will boom.

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/7316/silverwater0015ho.jpg
How that thing got approved is a mystery, because its sitting on Industrial-zoned land.
I put some Auburn Central pics up before but I think the thread got deleted.

hows this guys? i decided to merge. best idea. the thread will be a bit more popular.
cheers

So nothing will be deleted. :)

Yeah I was unemployed about two months ago so had plenty of time to explore the city, now working and living in Wollongong so Fairfield is just a detour.

Any chance of adding Auburn to the title and merging the Baulkam Hills thread?

btw great pic of Bankstown tower!

Thankyou.

As far as i know, no one has guts to start any units in Blacktown atm. as soon as someone does the place will boom.

I hope they bloody well start soon. I'll be convinced of a 100m tower in Blacktown when it starts building.

100m, that will be visible from probably 30 km away, huge change to Western Sydney. (I'm going on the fact you can see Chatswood from Miranda, and that Blacktown isn't near sea level like Parramatta)

Great work.

Some more Western Sydney info.
http://www.wsroc.com.au/

Got some populations for Sydney LGA's.
from http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/abs@.nsf/1020492cfcd63696ca2568a1002477b5/58ccd6705f2f4fdbca256fcc0075b54d!OpenDocument

LGA Estimated resident population
at June 2004 (preliminary)
Ashfield (A) 40,258
Auburn (A) 62,797
Bankstown (C) 175,428
Baulkham Hills (A) 157,854
Blacktown (C) 278,532
Blue Mountains (C) 77,011
Botany Bay (C) 37,192
Burwood (A) 31,085
Camden (A) 50,302
Campbelltown (C) 149,961
Canada Bay (A) 66,148
Fairfield (C) 187,683
Hawkesbury (C) 63,598
Holroyd (C) 91,211
Hornsby (A) 156,929
Hunter's Hill (A) 13,911
Hurstville (C) 75,640
Kogarah (A) 55,012
Ku-ring-gai (A) 108,830
Lane Cove (A) 32,341
Leichhardt (A) 51,430
Liverpool (C) 167,880
Manly (A) 38,987
Marrickville (A) 75,870
Mosman (A) 28,420
North Sydney (A) 60,789
Parramatta (C) 151,076
Penrith (C) 177,554
Pittwater (A) 56,954
Randwick (C) 126,431
Rockdale (C) 95,036
Ryde (C) 99,662
Strathfield (A) 31,129
Sutherland Shire (A) 214,784
Sydney (C) 146,297
Warringah (A) 138,646
Waverley (A) 62,096
Willoughby (C) 63,905
Wollondilly (A) 40,661
Woollahra (A) 53,095

Interesting that Western LGA's (and Hornsby, Sutherland) cover such large areas and populations compared to inner city LGA's. I thought it be easier to have smaller councils as their is more open space to divide between.

The NSW State Govt needs to force a number of councils to amalgamate. Some are far too small.

Suggested amalgamations:
* Ashfield, Burwood & Strathfield (pop 102,472)
* Woollahra & Waverley (pop 115,191)
* North Sydney & Mosman (pop 89,209)

I definitely agree with Ashfield, Burwood and Strathfield. Canada Bay and Canterbury near by cover the same area as those three together.

And just wondering about Chatswood on Emporis. Has population 250000. Shouldn't it be 63000, same as Willoughby?

soon to be Blacktowns tallest
6storey GATEWAY
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/8993/101598993ml1125036688.jpg

I'm a bit surprised by that. I thought West point would have been taller. Westpoint office tower has to be at least 8 stories wouldn't it, four stories on top of the Plaza.

I think Blacktown is way overdue for some high-rise.

^ oh didnt know of that one? maybe gateway will be tallest resi? have you a pic of westpoint?
whats this bldg? its on council website
http://www.blacktown.nsw.gov.au/pics/plan_dev_image_rotation/lhs_content_image_mainstreethighrise.jpg

i want to know when bldgs like this one will start>
Lycross Tower -60m/19st/ 83 units

http://homepages.tig.com.au/~saoki/kil-bal_2.JPG

Hey Cul,

I have a better picture I'll post later, but here is Westpoint Tower behind some other stuff. I know it has level 8 at least.

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/7272/blacktown0458rf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And these buildings look to be 6 stories too.

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1496/blacktown0183xt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6892/blacktown0257pb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Lycoss Tower looks nice. I'm suprised they haven't started building to ty in with the open of the M7. It seems like there will be some business parks along the M7 so perhaps that will trigger a construction boom in Blacktown, Liverpool, the Hills and Campbelltown.


This is from Greater Wester Sydney website.
http://www.gws.org.au/cgi-bin/local_government.pl?form_type=showitem&documentid=990825000


Title: Blacktown CBD Redevelopment

LGA: Blacktown

New Housing Lots: 200

Job Outcomes: NA

Total Project Value: $330m

Completion Date: 2006

Status: Awaiting Planning Approval

Category: Commercial - Residential

The Blacktown CBD will be revitalised over coming years with a series of new residential, commercial and administrative projects to be undertaken. The Blacktown City Centre Urban Design Master Plan, adopted by Blacktown City Council in December 2001 makes provision for the revitalisation of public space management throughout the Blacktown CBD plus development controls for key sites. The objective is to continue building a vibrant city. This includes the $250 million plan to double the size of the Blacktown Westpoint Shopping Centre and a $40 million development north of Blacktown railway station that will include two towers of 25 and nine storeys featuring a mixture of 200 apartments and a mixture of retail and commercial space.

thanks yeah 6 storeys is approx 22m which is a popular hieght across alot of burbs.
the westpoint does look about 30m.
cheers

Very old article, but it seems most of what was mentioned has just happened or is still being considered





Councils move to axe height limits
By William Verity
July 13 2002


New planning rules will be used to determine the height of buildings as two Sydney councils move to abandon traditional height regulations.

Liverpool Council has dropped height limits on developments in its city centre and replaced them with assessment based on shadowing, sunlight and appearance.

North Sydney Council will decide on Monday whether to take floor space restrictions out of its development control laws.

Instead, proposed rules will allow architects greater flexibility on height, provided the buildings do not exceed the council's new shadow controls.

Planning director Sue Francis will submit the new local environment plan to the council on Monday. However, it depends on the State Government agreeing to expand the capacity of North Sydney train station.

No new car parking will be allowed in North Sydney and developers will have to contribute to the cost of upgrading public transport as part of the trade-off.

"If that happens, we are releasing the grip on floor space," she said, noting she had three applications pending for buildings of between 20 and 30 storeys.

Sydney's largest regional centre - Parramatta - is also about to set new height records with work about to start by Estate Properties on a 23-storey residential tower.

The city has also approved plans for 15-storey twin residential towers by Meriton and the new police headquarters building, which will be 12 storeys.

But Parramatta Council has decided to keep height restrictions for environmental reasons and to ensure lines of view to heritage buildings.

Plans for the tallest building in the 200-year history of Liverpool - a 23-storey complex next to one of Australia's oldest Anglican churches - are on public display. The development - part of the city's Oasis project - includes retail, commercial and residential space.

Liverpool Council's general manager, Brian Carr, said the previous height restriction of 40 metres was an antiquated approach to planning.

"Height is not the issue - it's the effects of height that are important," he said. "It's now based on merit. People need to assess the impacts of sunlight, shadowing, form and other urban design principles."

The council agreed to change the rules in February to create a more identifiable city centre and hopes to increase jobs in the CBD from 13,000 to 30,000 by 2020.

In Blacktown, councillors approved the city's tallest buildings in December in a development near the railway station called First Avenue for site owner Tony Slater.

The $40 million development will consist of two residential towers, one of 25 storeys and the other of 10 storeys, that will contain 202 apartments and two floors of retail and commercial space.

High-rise apartments are planned for Sydney Olympic Park, where three 20-storey towers will go up near the railway station, to join the existing Novotel tower.

The Planning Minister, Andrew Refshauge, said he welcomed tall buildings - but only in the right places.


"Tall buildings have a place in Sydney's regional centres but we don't want to see them popping up everywhere," he said. "It's about ensuring that regional centres are viable and vibrant but at the same time provide jobs for people near their homes and near public transport.

"That means shorter trips and fewer cars on the road. We do not want to see tall buildings in areas other than regional centres, the city and key precincts such as Olympic Park."




This picture was included. Pity about the Oasis debacle.

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The 13-storey development planned for Liverpool.

Did anyone notice this? I'm not sure if it's mentioned somewhere in another thread, but anyway, is a very cool 18-storey addition to the future skyline of Olympic Park!

Five stars at Olympic Park

Ben Wilmot
367 words
12 October 2005
Australian Financial Review
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© 2005 Copyright John Fairfax Holdings Limited. www.afr.com Not available for re-distribution.

French hotel giant Accor yesterday unveiled plans for a five-star Sofitel at Sydney's Olympic Park in one of the first moves to build a major hotel in the city for almost a decade.

The 18-storey, 210-room hotel will be on Olympic Boulevard, next to the Novotel.

The project is expected to cost $50 million and will be owned by the Babcock & Brown-controlled Tourism Asset Holdings Ltd.

Accor has acquired a 94-year lease from the Sydney Olympic Park Authority, which will start on completion of the building.

The authority's chief executive, Brian Newman, said: "There aren't too many places in Sydney where hotels are being built or planned, but this is one of them."

Mr Newman said he was confident there would be a fourth hotel in the precinct.

The Sofitel, which is scheduled to open in mid-2008, will bring the total number of hotel rooms at Sydney Olympic Park to about 550.

Accor has a three-star Ibis in the precinct as well as the four-star Novotel.

The French hotelier is also leading in the race to develop a budget Formule 1 hotel on Edwin Flack Avenue for which tenders have been received.

Accor's hotels are among the best performers in Sydney, and have defied expectations of a slump after the Olympic Games in 2000.

Accor Asia-Pacific chairman David Baffsky said the new hotel highlighted the success of Sydney Olympic Park and the vision behind the development of the precinct.

Sydney Olympic Park had been an outstanding success despite many sceptics at the time believing that it would become a "white elephant" after the Olympics, Mr Baffsky said.

The Sofitel will be the first five-star hotel in western Sydney and the plans for its development come in conjunction with $150 million of work that has been committed to the precinct.

Some big deals include a new building for the NSW Institute of Sport and a 23,000 square metre building for the Commonwealth Bank of Australia, which will move some 1400 staff to the park next year.


And another from Sydney Morning Herald:

Accor to build hotel at Olympic Park

Edited by Carolyn Cummins ccummins@smh.com.au
354 words
12 October 2005
The Sydney Morning Herald
First
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© 2005 Copyright John Fairfax Holdings Limited. www.smh.com.au Not available for re-distribution.

The development of Sydney Olympic Park has been given a boost with Accor's plan to build a $50 million Sofitel hotel.

This comes at a time of expansion in the surrounding north-western suburbs of Sydney, including North Ryde and Rhodes.

Brian Newman, chief executive of the Sydney Olympic Park Authority, said the precinct was emerging as a urban growth centre attracting investment interest in commercial, sporting, education, hospitality and residential forms of development.

The five-star Sofitel is to be built opposite the existing three- and four-star Novotel and Ibis hotels which are managed by Accor under an agreement between the hotel group and the Sydney Olympic Park Authority.

The Sofitel is scheduled to open in mid-2008 and will be an 18-storey, 210-room hotel linked to the Novotel and the Ibis by an underground basement to allow the "back-of-house" functions for the complex to be shared.

Sydney Olympic Park is home to more than 60 businesses including Orlando Wyndham, Dairy Farmers, QBE, BP Solar and Eveready and in the next two years other major businesses such as the Commonwealth Bank will relocate to the precinct.

Companies such as ANZ, National Australia Bank, Macquarie Bank and AAP have moved to the expanding commercial district near the park.

Accor Asia Pacific's chairman, David Baffsky, said that while the area, from a commercial perspective, was initally considered a "white elephant", the new hotel highlighted the success of Sydney Olympic Park, five year after the 2000 Games.

"Sydney Olympic Park has been an outstanding success, despite many sceptics believing it would become a white elephant after the Olympics," Mr Baffsky said.

"The growth of western Sydney's business community in the past five years has been phenomenal and the pace of development is set to increase as companies move their headquarters from the city to the west."

Mr Baffsky said the region had had no new hotel built for more than five years.

Great. With the three residential towers planned, Olympic Park will have 5 high-rise buildings to compliment the many planned office low-rise (6 stories). The bay side buildings look to be around 8 stories too, maybe 30m.

Can i just say, that i was at Olympic park about a month ago for a concert, and damn it is starting to look nice. The trees are starting to get mature and its growing into a beautiful scene.

Is there a demand for five-star hotel at Olympic park?

Olympic park is a very popular and sought after venue. when there are big athletics meets or swimming events, concerts ect.the visitors can crash the night instead of heading home. also business men can stay after the big meeting in the growing industrial parks out west.
its a great idea to have another big hotel.

I dug up some more pics of Westpoint tower.

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From the roof of the Plaza

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From Blacktown Station

30m sounds about right.

thanks lenny

new GATEWAY APARTMENTS @ Burwood
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/8114/102678114ml1126918608.jpg

Close Cul. I think Gateway belongs in the 'inner west' thread.

Also I found the article you referred to in the 'Sydney is full' thread. I wouldn't mind knowing the 27 business centres to accomodate future growth. That's along with the 5 cities: Sydney, North Sydney, Penrith, Parramatta and Liverpool. All by 2030.

Yes it does. I broke this news on the forum a year ago :)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=119297&page=1

no dramas. so many bloody threads.lol

new 10storey completed in Liverpool
WESTPOINT
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The River Cities.

I've been obsessed with the idea of developing Sydney's river cities lately. So went and got some more pics today.

Parramatta.

Start with a pano of the North side of the trainline line.

http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/9799/parrapano2nd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Than the apartments between Westfield and Great Western Highway

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I'm not sure if this one was complete last time I was in Parra
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Than to the West of Westfield, where all the action is

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The view down Church st.
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I didn't have time to get down and take some pics of the station which is completely different. Escen was at Level 12 according to the numbers marked on the core.

Then to Penrith. This stop was even shorter, I barely left the car.

I didn't enter Westfield for a look, but noticed a much different street scape in the surrounding area.

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Only other pics I took were the ATO, Penrith's only current high-rise

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And finally Liverpool. These pics were taken from the library roof and pan from south to north via west.

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I should mention the Westfield extension was going strong but once again no time to stop for pics

Excellent stuff Lennyr!!! Great that you've gotten out to all those places. I like the idea of "river cities", and think tha should be something incorporated more into these cities (the river that is). Parramatta is doing a good job integrating the Parramatta River into the cbd, with artworks and improved access, and this is improving still with work underway around the new justice hub. In Liverpool and Penrith the river is further away from the cbd, and thus a little forgotten, although both are very picturesque in different ways, and could greatly improve the amenity of the city with their greater use/access.

Further, of course, I really love the Parramatta photos, don't see enough of them on here!! You can see the station roof in one of your photos, and looks good from there- it is really hard to believe it is all so different from what I was used to there, even considering it was upgraded only 8 years ago. The view from Westfield to the station is also so much different, the facade of Westfield facing the street/station, is looking even better than I had imagined! And Escen is really starting to show its height there.

The building you ask as to whether it was there last time you visited, the Waratah, has been there since the mid 90's, although it has got a new paint job by the looks of it. It was originally pink, and then a beige colour, and now seems to be a more lemony/yellow colour. It was originally a hotel, and shortly after construction was converted into studio apartmenst selling at the time for around $90,000.

Again, great stuff and thank you!!

Hey Parraman,

Thanks for the commentary, some good info there. Considering how popular any waterside land is I'm surprised Penrith and Liverpool haven't "reached" their rivers yet.

great lennyr.
the Waratah Inn was built in 1975.
ive got it listed on emporis. one of the highest in parra in its hey day
we need a good photo of it on ss.com.that one is perfect

http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/8775/parramatta0217lc.jpg

There's a proposal for a tower in Liverpool. These are the renders from the local paper.
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/508/p10103260po.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6227/p10103270ot.jpg

Nice looking tower! I hope it will go ahead.

But...

"It will ensure Liverpool becomes the third biggest regional centre after Sydney and Parramatta."

I don't think this tower is enough to ensure that!

wow, fantastic. really quality landmark tower.
ive worked out 8 office levels=30m, 21 resi levels=63m + plant-7m = 100m!
ill add to emporis
thanks

It's tall and handsome

Architects excited by Scott Street skyscraper plans

By Kyle Stevens
and Ilona Marchetta

The only way is up for the southern outskirts of the Liverpool CBD, with a proposed 30-storey commercial and residential tower set to change the area forever.

The 80,000-square meter skyscraper to be built on the old Coles site in Scott Street is set to revive the area.

It would be the tallest building in Liverpool, if given the green light by Liverpool council.

Designed by Liverpool firm Mosca Pserras Architects, the $100 million investment includes more than 7000 square metres of retail spanning six storeys, 750 car spaces and 250 residential apartments as high up as 30 floors.

Other features include solar heating, a child-care centre, a function hall, indoor pool, community rooms, a supermarket, boutique stores and a forecourt with an urban park and open-air dining.

The firm was selected by developer Gazcorp to design the development.

The firm is making the final touches to the plans and will present the development application to the council by the end of the month. Mr Mosca gave Liverpool's business leaders a preview of the development plans at the monthly Chamber of Commerce meeting last week.

"Liverpool has needed this for a very long time," Mr Mosca said. "Our proposal is to make the southern outskirts big and alive again"

'We have worked long and hard on this project and done something to show confidence in the future of Liverpool."

Mr Mosca said the development will revive Scott Street and the shops in Macquarie Street.

"It will add value to Liverpool, especially Macquarie Street," he said. "It will have A-Grade office space which will energise and liven up the shop fronts on Macquarie Street. It balances out both ends of Liverpool and will create more good developments for Liverpool to become more highly regarded. It will give us a place to go and keep people in the area, rather than travelling to other areas."

While Liverpool Council would not identify Mr Mosca as being involved in the project, choosing instead to refer to "an interested developer", they did confirm their desire in seeing the southern end of the business district developed.

"Council is supportive of any proposed development in the southern end of the Liverpool city centre as it would strengthen and add vibrancy to this area," the corporate manager, city planning, Phil Tolhurst said.

"Once the development application has been submitted, council will need to evaluate it and the normal processes will still apply."

Mr Mosca is confident that the council will give the go ahead in the next few months.

"We have had some informal meetings with Liverpool Council, which have been very positive, and we have taken their constructive criticism on board," he said.

If approved, construction is expected to begin in the middle of next year.

The project would have two stages. Stage one would include car parking and commercial/office space, which is expected to be completed within two years.

Stage two has been planned for residential but Mr Mosca has warned that could change if there is demand for additional commercial and office space.

"Stage two will all depend on the market and that could change to an office tower", he said. "There has been significant genuine interest for a large amount of commercial space which is very heartening. The forecourts will create a nice atmosphere which will attract a lot of tenants. There is also adequate car parking which Liverpool badly needs."

I hope that Liverpool tower gets approval. Liverpool can easily evolve to become a nice looking CBD, much nicer than Parramatta IMO. :)

I didn't know where to post this so I'll post it in this thread.

http://www.cityrail.info/news/images/parramatta2.jpg

The diagram shows some changes at the Parramatta transport interchange site from November 28.

http://www.cityrail.info/news/051128-parramatta.jsp

Penrith updates from me are here (been a while though)

LINK> http://s7.invisionfree.com/Urban_Heaven/index.php?showtopic=109

Panorama outside Auburn Central: From the town square near the corner of Queen St and Harrow Rd, looking North West to South East.
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Auburn Central sucks.

I repeat

Auburn Central sucks.

The quality of that apartment is overwealming. There's not even 1 point to take positive about except it fills up dirt.

I love the square/piazza of Auburn Central.
Every town centre should have a square like that...

I went to Macathur Square a few weeks ago and the town square looked quite good (it wasn't open yet when I went there). Can't say the new section of the shopping centre is too flash though.

I love the square/piazza of Auburn Central.
Every town centre should have a square like that...

You have got to be kidding me. The quality of the square and the whole complex itself including apartments are attrocious. They're like housing commission standards.

Found this in The Age today - more news on the Multiplex development for Olympic Park. Together with the existing Novotel and Ibis Hotel, the planned Sofitel and the new Commonwealth Bank office building currently under construction, this area is building its own little skyline!

Multiplex turns to Sydney's west
CAROLYN CUMMINS, SYDNEY
445 words
6 February 2006
The Age
First
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© 2006 Copyright John Fairfax Holdings Limited. www.theage.com.au Not available for re-distribution.
MULTIPLEX may be battling it out in London with its troubled Wembley Stadium redevelopment, but its Australian business is holding up its own with a new $320 million residential block at Sydney Olympic Park.

It is being developed in a joint venture with Babcock & Brown in three stages. The four-building project is tipped to be completed in the next five years once all planning and design approvals have been granted.

The project comes as the residential apartment sector is under pressure, but real estate agents say by the time it is finished the market should have turned the corner.

In addition Sydney's west, where the site is located, is one of the faster growing districts for high-rises. The only other development in the area is Newington, the former Olympic Village.

Multiplex and Babcock & Brown plan to build 679 apartments, 930 car spaces, 485 square metres of retail space and a 40-place child care centre.

Stage one of the project - known as North Buildings A and B - will comprise 200 apartments in two joined towers of 24 and 16 storeys, with 283 car spaces, 256 square metres of retail space and the child care centre.

A final design by architectural firm Nic Turner and Associates, and a layout for stage one, will be submitted in the near future.

Merrill Lynch's property team said last week that they believe a number of events could provide a catalyst for the Multiplex share price, including "completion of Wembley on target, or if Multiplex can get the development division firing on all cylinders and if we assume that the construction division no longer requires an ongoing contingency".

"This remains valid but we believe that the market will not pay for this upside in full until there is absolute clarity on Wembley and it has completely passed from Multiplex to the client," Merrill Lynch said.

"We will look for comments on the progress of Wembley claims . . . at the first-half result to be held on February 23, 2006."

Multiplex Developments deputy managing director Dennis O'Regan said the project would meet important environmental criteria as set out by the Sydney Olympic Park Authority.

"There continues to be pent-up demand in Sydney's west for good quality, well-located residential properties. This latest venture at Sydney Olympic Park will go some way to meeting that demand," Mr O'Regan said.

Matthew McCann, head of Australian real estate at Babcock & Brown, says the project will establish a benchmark in environmental standards for urban residential developments.

Very old article, but it seems most of what was mentioned has just happened or is still being considered





Councils move to axe height limits
By William Verity
July 13 2002


New planning rules will be used to determine the height of buildings as two Sydney councils move to abandon traditional height regulations.

Liverpool Council has dropped height limits on developments in its city centre and replaced them with assessment based on shadowing, sunlight and appearance.

North Sydney Council will decide on Monday whether to take floor space restrictions out of its development control laws.

Instead, proposed rules will allow architects greater flexibility on height, provided the buildings do not exceed the council's new shadow controls.

Planning director Sue Francis will submit the new local environment plan to the council on Monday. However, it depends on the State Government agreeing to expand the capacity of North Sydney train station.

No new car parking will be allowed in North Sydney and developers will have to contribute to the cost of upgrading public transport as part of the trade-off.

"If that happens, we are releasing the grip on floor space," she said, noting she had three applications pending for buildings of between 20 and 30 storeys.

Sydney's largest regional centre - Parramatta - is also about to set new height records with work about to start by Estate Properties on a 23-storey residential tower.

The city has also approved plans for 15-storey twin residential towers by Meriton and the new police headquarters building, which will be 12 storeys.

But Parramatta Council has decided to keep height restrictions for environmental reasons and to ensure lines of view to heritage buildings.

Plans for the tallest building in the 200-year history of Liverpool - a 23-storey complex next to one of Australia's oldest Anglican churches - are on public display. The development - part of the city's Oasis project - includes retail, commercial and residential space.

Liverpool Council's general manager, Brian Carr, said the previous height restriction of 40 metres was an antiquated approach to planning.

"Height is not the issue - it's the effects of height that are important," he said. "It's now based on merit. People need to assess the impacts of sunlight, shadowing, form and other urban design principles."

The council agreed to change the rules in February to create a more identifiable city centre and hopes to increase jobs in the CBD from 13,000 to 30,000 by 2020.

In Blacktown, councillors approved the city's tallest buildings in December in a development near the railway station called First Avenue for site owner Tony Slater.

The $40 million development will consist of two residential towers, one of 25 storeys and the other of 10 storeys, that will contain 202 apartments and two floors of retail and commercial space.

High-rise apartments are planned for Sydney Olympic Park, where three 20-storey towers will go up near the railway station, to join the existing Novotel tower.

The Planning Minister, Andrew Refshauge, said he welcomed tall buildings - but only in the right places.


"Tall buildings have a place in Sydney's regional centres but we don't want to see them popping up everywhere," he said. "It's about ensuring that regional centres are viable and vibrant but at the same time provide jobs for people near their homes and near public transport.

"That means shorter trips and fewer cars on the road. We do not want to see tall buildings in areas other than regional centres, the city and key precincts such as Olympic Park."




This picture was included. Pity about the Oasis debacle.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6682/nwsartists6hn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The 13-storey development planned for Liverpool.

Hey Lenyr, where did you get this article from? I want to see if there is a bigger picturte of the render?

I remember this project at the height of the Oasis Project. It was to be situated on the Bathurst Street Carpark. by memeory thre were 3 towers one at 23 storey and 2 at 12 storeys. This should be in emporis as never built.

i'M NOT SURE EXACTLY, i USUALLY TRY TO INCLUDE THE LINKS WITH THE POST. (sorry for caps locks) Copy the heading and search for it on google or yahoo.

double post

Alright, here are some pics. I wish I did some photography at uni, it is an addictive past time.

This is from a roof towards the south, can't remember the complex. It was a stand alone parking centre.

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Sorry I don't have more of a description. These show the Westpoint, the silver building near the station, some residential buildings I think I've seen the render for, and the RTA/glass building near the Blacktown Workers Club(?)

lennyr great work. I work in B'town now so I can tell you a little bit about these building.

Photo 1 shows the extention to the Blacktown Workers Club...yeah I know it looks like a office building. It apparently houses the Gym and a revolving restaurant believe it or not!

Photo 2 show the council cahmbers.

Photo 3 shows the RTA building, it is 4 levels.

Its a shame that B'town does not have any high-rise buildings. It is not taking advantage of being situated on a ridge...the views would be spectacular.

A good thing about B'town is parking is for free!

I wouldn't mind checking out the view from the top of the workers club. Thanks for the info.

Anyone been though the high rise Mosaic apartments going up in Leumeah? Are they any good? :?

you can buy a unit from $215k
great location. right near station and footy oval.
website>
http://www.parkviewgroup.com.au/mosaic/index.asp
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NEW 6 storey/200 room Rydges Hotel for Campbelltown.
opens soon on August 1st.
looks good/
must be regions tallest building?

http://www.rydges.com/images/find-a-hotel/RNCMBL/image-gallery/hotel/large/Exterior_Artists_Impression.jpg

http://www.rydges.com/hotel/0/RNCMBL/Rydges-Campbelltown-Sydney.htm

NEW 6 storey/200 room Rydges Hotel for Campbelltown.
opens soon on August 1st.
looks good/
must be regions tallest building?


I thought a couple of the 80's glass offices in Campbelltown were around 8 storeys?

Here are some more proposals for Campbelltown - don't know what the status is though:

Tyler St, Campbelltown: 101 apartments, commercial space in the podium levels.

http://www.moderinn.com.au/images/projects/p_tylerst_01.jpg

http://www.moderinn.com.au/images/projects/p_tylerst_05.jpg

http://www.moderinn.com.au/images/projects/p_tylerst_07.jpg

Chamberlain St, Campbelltown: 67 apartments.

http://www.moderinn.com.au/images/projects/p_chamberst_01.jpg

http://www.moderinn.com.au/images/projects/p_chamberst_02.jpg

http://www.moderinn.com.au/images/projects/p_chamberst_03.jpg

Lots more development around the new Park Central area:

http://www.hansenyuncken.com.au/files/Campbelltown-1.jpg

thanks finn, seems alot is happening which is good for the town.
isoby-yeah i remember seeign a couple of 6 storied bldgs. 1 out near Macarthur sq looks octagonal? very seidlerish

anything happening out west these days?

new 9 lev for liverpool
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/8547/104518547ml1197587858.jpg

windsor towers, Liverpool
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/8698/104978698ml1215655263.jpg

good to see a highrise (10storeys) uc in liverpool
Maryville Towers
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/8271/103008271ml1197868007.jpg

Out here at Camden, the Council has recently received a DA to re-develop the old high school site on the corner of John and Exeter Streets in Camden - it's currently on exhibition (nothing on their website from what I could see), but off the top of my head, it will be a mixed use development, with retail, resedintial (with an over 55's component), a motel, cinema and a few other goodies. I'll have a look at the exhibition material next week, and post a definitive list. I probably won't be able to post elevations, etc. as we don't exhibit DA's online and I don't think the developer / applicant has anything on their site either.

Stage 4 construction of the Narellan Town Centre (http://www.narellantowncentre.com.au) is going well, which will include 20 new shops, new food court, 8 screen cinema and 143 new parking spots.

And on the Islamic school front, reports in the local media state that the applicant will start proceedings with the Land and Environment Court next month.

10 storeys seem to be as high as it will get out there. Whats happened to our proposed 20-30 storey towers???

No buildings as such, but the first subdivisions at Oran Park and Gregorys Hill (part of the SW release area) to the north of Camden have been registered with the Department of Lands. The first houses are expected to be on the ground by 2010.

In the mean time, planning is under way for the new Oran Park town centre, which unlike Rouse Hill town centre, will be one of the first precincts established. The raceway will close next year, with part of the track retained as part of the street network. Predictably, the street names will be after racing car drivers and other related themes.

Today's SMH Commercial Property Section has an ad promoting the sale of a D/A for a 12 storey commercial and residential development on King Georges Rd, Wiley Park comprising literally one side of the shopping centre. They would also gain ownership of the Wiley Park hotel on the opposite side of the site.

124 apartments would be built with retail.

There are two midrisers up to 7 storeys along that strip at present.

* BUMP *

Does anyone know what the progress is with those two vacant sites on either side of the Hoxton Park Road / Macquarie Street intersection with the Hume Highway in Liverpool?

The site on the Hoxton Park Road side (which is to be a shopping centre + apartments) has had the white barricades up for at least 12-18 months, whilst on the other side (another mixed use development I think), the old car dealership there was demolished the beginning of last year, but is now being infested with overgrown weeds due to no further activity...

There used to be a Liverpool thread with a few keen contributors but it dropped off over a year ago along with the contributors which says that there hasn't been much going on.

Is this thread mainly on for buildings classed as skyscrapers? Or does it include smaller buildings, say 5-6 stories high? (mainly see stuff that is around 10 or more in here)

Is it fine to post all that?

Yes, I think anything that would be deemed a substantial development in the context of the major centre / suburb would be fine to post in here.

As long as we don't start contaminating it with news like the latest franchise opportunities available at the Liverpool Megacenta.

Does anyone know about this development in Ingleburn? (link in image)

http://images.ljhooker.com.au/PROPERTY/pictures/03783785.JPG (http://www.ljhooker.com.au/1S0GVV)

It's only 4 stories so it'll be of near equal height to the other tallest buildings here, but I haven't really heard anything about it. It really sucks how they've limited the CBD to only 4 stories. Maybe in the future they might increase it a the height limit a little.

A bit has been happening in Camden lately:

* Mount Annan Central opened up last weekend, with Coles and about 15 specality shops;
* A homemakers centre was approved in late January at Narellan, on The Northern Road - Bunnings Warehouse will be the anchor tennant;
* A modern police station was approved about 2 weeks ago for Narellan, which will replace the one currently in Camden. There were some localised objections, given the site as it was next to a heritage listed church and there were concerns that the bulk of the building will obstruct view corridors that are 'protected' by the Local Environmental Plan;
* The first stage of a new commercial development in Narellan was lodged with Council last week - it will be in the triangle opposite the Narellan Town Centre that is bounded by Camden Valley Way, The Old Northern Road and the Narellan Road extension - the anchor tennants for this first stage are intended to be Dan Murphys and Aldi;
* Easts Leagues Club lodged a DA last week for a new country club at Narellan, which will be adjacent to the previously mentioned homemakers centre;
* The 3 storey mixed use development on the old high school site in Camden is still being assessed... no idea when it will be referred to Council; and
* Of course the ongoing saga with the Islamic school - it had its hearing with the Land and Environment Court the week before last, and a decision is pending any day now.

Is this thread mainly on for buildings classed as skyscrapers? Or does it include smaller buildings, say 5-6 stories high? (mainly see stuff that is around 10 or more in here)

Is it fine to post all that?

Take BSD as the precedent for "projects" in NSW. :lol:

camden airport
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3093/3360816520_71d91069a5_o.jpg

Nice birdseye view of Camden. :)