Par4
Did you get any photos while you were there? There might not have been much more progress than Imres photos on the 20th Dec.

I did take a lot of photos but as you say there is not much different to look at since then.

That's fine, it's nice that you met GSPM and let us know things are going well.

sorry can't get this photo thing working I'm to much old school but try and find someone to help as soon as possible, and par4 next time I hope we can go for a drink

Sounds good to me.

11/January/2008

The Atlantic

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The crane has arrived!

Seems to be progressing, thanks Imre. Never seem to be many workers around, maybe on their t/break.

TRUE BLUE - what's the crane for?

TRUE BLUE - what's the crane for?

You're kidding me, right?

I suppose that was a silly question, I've also bought in TT and this is a completely different way of building so I thought you knew something we didn't. That was stupid of me, yes the crane has arrived.

Yes stupid boy Pike. :lol:

Don't really want to admit it's "stupid girl" !!!!!!

^^ We don't disciminate based on gender in this forum.


... seriously though: up to this stage it is excactly the same way of building then in any other tower, including the Torch. The future work should be nothing but conventional as well. :)

well she did give us something to laugh about, and sheltie i want you to know this is going into the true blond joke file. sorry but you did bring this onto your self, though it was funny the crane is the most important machine on site without it we will take days to move material around

Any new photos?

This site is as quiet as the real site.Last picture of any work showed two men on site,Just hope this is not one of the 40% of developers struggling to pay their bills.Still I must stay positive and hope GS with pics and progress appears soon.http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20080121034410/SecMain/pagConstruction

This site is quiet because until something actually comes out of the ground there is nothing much to talk about.When i was in Dubai a few weeks ago there were 12 men actually grafting and a couple watching,but i agree when i see reports like that one it does concern me.

I was concerned as well when I read that report. However useful to remember that this is the only report I've seen so far talking in these terms. Until there are many other reports in similar vain best not to dwell on it too much, it's only one persons opinion so far.

This site is as quiet as the real site.Last picture of any work showed two men on site,Just hope this is not one of the 40% of developers struggling to pay their bills.Still I must stay positive and hope GS with pics and progress appears soon.http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20080121034410/SecMain/pagConstruction

Can't possibly be the case, they haven't done enought to generate a big bill.

I think they could be struggling with resources to move this at any kind of pace. Worth watching as I expected completion by end 2009 but if nothing substantial soon then could be a slow mover.

Thanks for comments guys or girls,without a doubt the will to push this project forward is missing,the once forthright Ray67 of Oryx has not been heard of for months,,and maybe this project will be added to the list of all the other Oryx non starters.Interestingly Oryx have just finished the pre launch of a tower in sports city called the Medalist,which looks very good ,but given their record,(most of what they have touched has died)is it a good tower to invest in.

Come on Ray or GSPM where are you. Please reassure us all is OK .

I'm still here post new photos today

THANKS for pics GS. When will we be out of the ground and on to the core and floors.How does Trueblues estimate of going in to 2010 sit with you.

28/January/2008

The Atlantic

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There does seem to be progress being made,keep up the good work.How do you build the crane up,do you need lifting equipment?

Thanks Imre great shots once again. Should be a smart little cul-de-sac when all complete.Love the idea of being right next door to gourmet tower.

Anyone know what's being built next to the Atlantic on the front? Excellent photos Imre.

That remains a mystery,you never know,maybe it will be a nice park and picnic area with grass and nice flowers etc. NOT!!!

Anyone know what's being built next to the Atlantic on the front? Excellent photos Imre.

I did ask the question of Ray 67 some time back,as he had said same client owned both plots.I believe Oryx had either the oryx marina tower or the bayside residence tower designed for this plot,but for one reason or another it did not go forward.The plot is now I think owned by Dheeraj & East Coast and they are promoting the Harbour residence tower,20 floor,with serviced appartments,which could if all true,fit very well with the Atlantic.

Yes i remember the harbour residence now,it is actually not unlike the Atlantic the way it is set out.

There does seem to be progress being made,keep up the good work.How do you build the crane up,do you need lifting equipment?

yes we will be using a mobile crane and from there it will be self climbing, nice pic's imre! what do you do for a living? climb high risers to get that perfect shot, or should we call you spiderman

Yes i remember the harbour residence now,it is actually not unlike the Atlantic the way it is set out.

Par4 There is a thread for it,but not much there yet

New photos on GSPM blog,looks good.

YES and now even more. Well done GS

Yes it's great to see the progress GS. Keep up the good work.

I promise I will, try to keep it updated as regular as possible.

Hi GSPM,have you had any ideas about what to do with the so called 'family hall' like making it a small bedroom or opening it and making it more open plan.

Wasn't this supposed to have been completed end of 07? Why has it been delayed and what is the estimated completion date (as real as poss.)?:cheers:

The original date was dec 07,it is now supposed to be april 08.

GS has said mid 09, and hes even put more pics on blog,hes going great.
Yes par 4, it would be good to see the wasted space given some thought.

Wasn't this supposed to have been completed end of 07? Why has it been delayed and what is the estimated completion date (as real as poss.)?:cheers:

This is not just any development, this is a G&S development

I still think that end of 2009 is a doable target program but due to the developers lack of experience it could be mid 2010.

All total speculation of course and we won't be able to guage until we see the structure a few floors above the ground.

Can someone tell me how many parking spaces are provided for residents and where this will be as there is no sign of a basement carpark? I think the retail space normally provided in most developments has been sacrificed for garage parking.

I am going to Dubai this weekend and will be looking at this development.

From the roadside there will be a basement from the marina its level

GS stated

Have a good weekend, and I look forward to your views on this developments.
Dont forget Stephan (GSPM) is on site and taking visitors mailto:ferreira.stephanus@gmail.com

Apologies,i meant to say april 09 not 08.

Hi GSPM,have you had any ideas about what to do with the so called 'family hall' like making it a small bedroom or opening it and making it more open plan.

yes there will be changes and yes what a lost of space, I hate it and my consultants are preparing new drawings to see what we can and can not do. I will get back to you as soon as i get it in. I just gave them my idea and now they must put it into scale

They have a similar internal space called a family room in the Jewels 3 bed apts. They make a great retreat for the kids to lounge watch tv or play playstations etc.

This is a picture of one in the final stages of fitout. Note the raised timber floor which gives it dimension rather than open plan hall feel. The Japaneese screens are covering walls only but give the effect of an adjoining space.

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That is exactly the kind of space that is planned for Atlantic so i assume you have seen the floor plans and i must say that is clever what has been done in the Jewels,the only difference is that it is a 3 bedroom at around 3000sqf i believe and in an apartment that size it would be a nice space to have.I just feel that a small bedroom or something might be more practical although i think GSPM has the idea of maybe moving the kitchen back into the space in some way and making the whole place more open plan.Although i could be totally wrong.

That is exactly the kind of space that is planned for Atlantic so i assume you have seen the floor plans and i must say that is clever what has been done in the Jewels,the only difference is that it is a 3 bedroom at around 3000sqf i believe and in an apartment that size it would be a nice space to have.I just feel that a small bedroom or something might be more practical although i think GSPM has the idea of maybe moving the kitchen back into the space in some way and making the whole place more open plan.Although i could be totally wrong.

yes par4 i'm trying to do just that

[QUOTE=True Blue;18235270]They have a similar internal space called a family room in the Jewels 3 bed apts. They make a great retreat for the kids to lounge watch tv or play playstations etc.

This is a picture of one in the final stages of fitout. Note the raised timber floor which gives it dimension rather than open plan hall feel. The Japaneese screens are covering walls only but give the effect of an adjoining space.

thanks true blue that gives me some ideas

Another great update GS, when do you plan the concrete pour,looks soon.

Another great update GS, when do you plan the concrete pour,looks soon.

Another great update GS, when do you plan the concrete pour,looks soon.

we will be doing all the pcc and then we will do one cast so no not soon after the binding comes the waterproofing the steel and then the pouring so that the entire first cast will complete the prominent floor it will make life easier for us as we do not have space to work and this way we will create space

^^ shouldn't u be sleeping by the time u wrote this post?? :D

He never sleeps that man,he's on the job 24hrs a day to get that tower built for us.
p.s.GSPM keep those updates coming on the blog.

^^ shouldn't u be sleeping by the time u wrote this post?? :D

Sleep what is that that, can you eat it, when we finish i'll take my break

28/January/2008

The Atlantic

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This project looks like a joke!!! any body bought here?

^^ Care to elaborate?

This project looks like a joke!!! any body bought here?

enlighten us with your briliance

Zaid is stoned

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come on pleth keep up or get ahead of my blog old photos just meens your sleeping on the job, these are history mate!!!!

We all like to view photos as they are invaluable contributions to the forum for people who can not be in Dubai every month. The date taken has been provided to avoid conflict with your excellent upto the minute blog.

Thank you both.

What an unbelievable statement by Zaid Stone,i would like an explanation on that one.He's the one who reckons that prices in the marina will reach 3500dhs/sqf by the end of the year,he obviously lives in cloud cookoo land.

Come on Zaid, explain yourself, are you in hiding?

:dunno: Perhaps he means the apparent lack of progress since launch around mid 2005?

The point was launched almost a year later yet progress is faster and everyone is complaining about that.

We all like to view photos as they are invaluable contributions to the forum for people who can not be in Dubai every month. The date taken has been provided to avoid conflict with your excellent upto the minute blog.

Thank you both.

true blue sorry i did not take offense this time but i am trying to keep the blog and skyscraper up to date just don't know how to get the pictures here you can help and copy them here i would appreciate it

check out the latest photos on the blog- http://atlantictower-dubai.blogspot.com:dance:

Progress looks fast now, at least it has good momentum compared with the Point. Guess Atlantic was just a late starter.

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Progress looks fast now, at least it has good momentum compared with the Point. Guess Atlantic was just a late starter.

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its like a good wine it takes time to mature, but when you open it flows

Keep up the good work, I like the direct comms channel here.

We could do with a few others. It would be interesting to see the quality of your work. :cheers:

I like the rooftop pool and sky gym. Gives all owners access to the best views.

Approximate view from Atlantic rooftop per GSProjectManager;
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Foundations;
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Great shots BTW :applause:

thank you i appreciate:banana:

What a fantastic update,full marks.Could you explain a couple of things,what are the column footings and is that whole area in the centre for lift shafts as it seems to cover a very large area.

What a fantastic update,full marks.Could you explain a couple of things,what are the column footings and is that whole area in the centre for lift shafts as it seems to cover a very large area.

if you go to my blog and click on the photo indicated i explained in neon colors, column footings is the base on which the columns in the promenade level will rest on, there are not allot of weight so piles are not necessary and the are in the middle is the lift and stair cap the building will be larger than it seems right now

Hey thats a great shot and marked out well,so my request now (please)can you overlay the 2bed appartments,so as to view the VIEW. THANKS

Hey thats a great shot and marked out well,so my request now (please)can you overlay the 2bed appartments,so as to view the VIEW. THANKS

Hey thats a great shot and marked out well,so my request now (please)can you overlay the 2bed appartments,so as to view the VIEW. THANKS

Hey thats a great shot and marked out well,so my request now (please)can you overlay the 2bed appartments,so as to view the VIEW. THANKS

SORRY finger must be twitchy

Any update about the Trust Account?

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Hi Diveksa, Thats about what I thought view wise,what worried me was the way unit4 ended up on the rear. In answer to your escrow question, I do have an email confirming all future payments will be made to it. Payments have now been changed to the construction stages ,next on 5th floor slab an then on 8th slab,very fair I though,all in all gulf shores are now performing ahead of the pack.Diveksa are you an investor.

Is that correct, the 5th and 8th floors? That could be as little as 3 weeks apart, a bit suspect. Maybe it is a typo and should be 18th floor which could be 13weeks or 3months, more reasonable.

Hi Plotman
I am a consultant for real estate investors.

TB if it is typo error,they have sent it twice to me, but as I say I am not unhappy with the new schedule, bear in mind that 50% of the payment is on hand over and the initial payments over a time period from launch, so due to delays they have changed them to construction.CAN YOU SEE DS DOING THAT. Diveksa, so what is your interest in this tower.

I got a different schedule , maybe because I bought resale. By the end of November 2007 I had paid 55%. The other 45% is due on completion.
I was quite happy with this as on my Torch apartment I have paid 90% to date and have 10% to pay on completion.

Plotman,
I like the information I can get about the project from this thread. I am looking for a two bedrooms unit at the Atlantic.

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thanks for the veiws

sorry missed the blog for a while. but excellent job by diveksa:applause:

Another great update on your blog GSPM, Thats 2 in march Fantastic

Diveksa Only 3 months ago there was 20 plus 2 beds for sale at under 1000aed sq/ft, now I can only see 1 at app 1350aed/sq ft,this still represents an under valued asset compared with many lesser developments in the marina.I think these appt will show value right thro to 2300aed/sf at this time.With the great input from GSPM and given the best location in the marina,there is no better investment IMO. Whats your view as an expert.

Diveksa Only 3 months ago there was 20 plus 2 beds for sale at under 1000aed sq/ft, now I can only see 1 at app 1350aed/sq ft,this still represents an under valued asset compared with many lesser developments in the marina.I think these appt will show value right thro to 2300aed/sf at this time.With the great input from GSPM and given the best location in the marina,there is no better investment IMO. Whats your view as an expert.

Where can I find these 2 bedr. apt. for sale, Plotman?

Dubai property centre still appear to have 3 two bed apartments for sale at under 2million dhs which if it is correct seems incredible for apartments that size.

Pleth Oryx have unit 904 at 2.5 mill aed, I think you will find the others are old and just fishing.904 is a good unit 9th floor view 4,it will be gone soon.

Is view 4 not the worst view, looking on the the arch at Marina mall?

Pleth Oryx have unit 904 at 2.5 mill aed, I think you will find the others are old and just fishing.904 is a good unit 9th floor view 4,it will be gone soon.

Thank you guys.
What is the completion date? I mean aproximately?

Thank you guys.
What is the completion date? I mean aproximately?

To be correctly answered, I'll answer this one! we scheduled for handover on the 21st of June 2009 if the current concrete shortage repair itself.

Is view 4 not the worst view, looking on the the arch at Marina mall?

From the balcony the views will be best you can get down the water,but in the rooms looking throu the windows I think the mall might loom large,but still a great appartment.

To be correctly answered, I'll answer this one! we scheduled for handover on the 21st of June 2009 if the current concrete shortage repair itself.

If you fail you will have to buy a round of drinks for every week you are late.:okay: :cheers: :drunk:

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^^Positive wording, but severely flawed.

What your graph actually shows is how much the resale price is suppressed by the late delivery of the project. You are comparing 2 price points at different time frames. If you take the time frame you are indicating and extend it down to where it intersects the red curve, that depicts the price suppression resulting from the late delivery of the product.

Both curves will merge at June 09 as the building is complete in both scenarios therefore everything else being equal the price must be consistent.

Sorry Diveksa, the best I can give you is a "C". Only because you chose red white and blue as the main colours and green stripe to indicate negativity :)

TRUEBLUE You did say in this thread earlier you were going to Dubai, and you would be looking at this project! Well did you and if so what did you think.

If you fail you will have to buy a round of drinks for every week you are late.:okay: :cheers: :drunk:

yes mate i swallow hard but i'm possitive shouldn't i be?

If you fail you will have to buy a round of drinks for every week you are late.:okay: :cheers: :drunk:

yes mate i swallow hard but i'm possitive shouldn't i be?:cheers:

TRUEBLUE You did say in this thread earlier you were going to Dubai, and you would be looking at this project! Well did you and if so what did you think.

Yes I did look at this one, but when I started negotiating with the seller he bumped the price up 30%. That cooled my enthusiasm quickish.

This looks to be a great little development that could not be any closer to the waterfront.

Sorry to hear that TRUEBLUE, so what was the price you would not pay,if I might be so cheeky as to ask. Still cheerup bye the look of GSPMs reply you got a date anyway.

Sorry to hear that TRUEBLUE, so what was the price you would not pay,if I might be so cheeky as to ask. Still cheerup bye the look of GSPMs reply you got a date anyway.

Check your pm.

Sorry to hear the bad news re pricing,would be good to have you onboard.I think the 4.6 figure would still represent a good price at this time, and on completion you will be looking at 75%-100%uplift.I was lucky and got in at just below those figures by taking three. The next fall out will be approaching 5th floor slab.I agree with your view of graph,but the point it draws is the real value that can be found in a resale purchased at the right time,the original investors who bought on day one and sold prior to start have struggled to make a sizeable return,whereas now the tower is under construction the curve goes in to overdrive. Goodluck and dont give up,keep an eye on it.

I dont bloody believe it, 3 updates in march on your blog, god your good, I am going to kiss you when we meet.

So Plotman you have actually bought 3 units,i wish i had had the confidence to do that when i bought mine but after waiting for 2 years wondering if it would ever be started i think i would be pretty grey haired by now.Looks like its been a very good move for you now though.

Par4 , Diveksa curve says all , the difficult bit is finding the part of the curve where dream meets reality or just before.I bought my first offplan in Dubai in 2003 and delay after delay followed, so I have had my share of worry.I really do prefer re sales, it may cost a bit of a premium,but you have the advantage of seeing how the developers perform

Good point and GS do seem to have got things moving well now and although i have no real building experience i cant help thinking GSPM runs an orginised site.

Good point and GS do seem to have got things moving well now and although i have no real building experience i cant help thinking GSPM runs an orginised site.

I would agree,GSPM had a lot of courage to go open on this site,and foresight to create his own blog.

He is very much appreciated for keeping us up to date.

Thanks guys and girl, lets hope mother nature or the concrete company's keep there end of the bargain

Check your pm.

just need to correct this I'm a am dude it just came out wrong, i meant swallowing my words, just to be clear True Blue

^^ Phew!!

Thanks guys and girl, lets hope mother nature or the concrete company's keep there end of the bargain

I hope you have not subbed out the HVAC package to mother nature :lol:

^^ Phew!!



I hope you have not subbed out the HVAC package to mother nature :lol:

no i had a talk with father time and he explained the outcome so i had to consider my next move carefully. It was difficult but i did decline.

Par4 , Diveksa curve says all , the difficult bit is finding the part of the curve where dream meets reality or just before.I bought my first offplan in Dubai in 2003 and delay after delay followed, so I have had my share of worry.I really do prefer re sales, it may cost a bit of a premium,but you have the advantage of seeing how the developers perform

The advantage is you have rent money coming in straight away.

The advantage is you have rent money coming in straight away.

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What about alternative accommodation for the Atlantic onwers?

I didn't take much notice of that in the contract,the way i see it is that if the seller had to pay everyone for loss of rent for a year or more it would most likely make the tower unviable and we might never see our apartments.

Sometimes I don't understand the way the estate agents work? I contacted Oryx Real Estate to get more information of the Atlantic apartments for sale. I have written to them three times, and phoned them twice, but no response what so ever.
Their website is not up to date either.
Are they still in business?

Have you tried +97143517466.

I didn't take much notice of that in the contract,the way i see it is that if the seller had to pay everyone for loss of rent for a year or more it would most likely make the tower unviable and we might never see our apartments.

The clause in the contract is not entirely clear. Developer could try and get out of this on the basis that a purchaser needs to live in Dubai and be actually renting at present. Presumably if you're a local home owner or an overseas investor and would not have to rent anyway (say you've bought as a long term rental property or holiday home) then there will be no compensation payable at all ?? So the developer may have to pay out very little here.

Photos of the plot taken on march 14th by Imre from MVT B
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Great photos of the position on the marina.

Photos of the plot taken on march 14th by Imre from MVT B
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Atlantic owners:
Who can complain about the view of the 2 bed unites?
Who can complain about the location of the Atlantic?
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Hi All just spent the last 10 days in Dubai at Marina,visted the site twice,it is a fantastic position,since the last photo more concrete has been poured.GSPM was very welcoming and took both myself and my wife up to the higher floors of marina mall to look down on the site.Anyone thinking of buying in do it now,this baby is going to sore.Very big thanks to GSPM.I have taken some photos and will try to post,but if someone has an email who can do it please pm me.

Hi Plotman,
Thanks for your update.
This is what Imre taught me:
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Good to here from you again plotman,what floor were you allowed up to in the mall hotel to take photos.

I think 15th or 17th not sure,GSPM will tell us.

it was the 15th floor just to be on the same hight as the atlantic and thanks for the visits enjoyed it hope to see you when we completed the 5th floor and nice photo diveksa

sorry for not responding with new updates but i think dubai blocked the blog i don't seem to be able to upload or see the blog at all

sorry for not responding with new updates but i think dubai blocked the blog i don't seem to be able to upload or see the blog at all

This is unfortunate as we all look forward to your updates.Can anyone out there help?

GSPM
Would you be able to PM somebody who uploads photos on SSC to tell you how to do it. I don't know myself but it must be easy when you know how. Can anyone out there help?

GSPM
Just noticed post 385 above, is Pleth not saying how to do it?

hi sheltie it was the blog that was closed so i wasn't able to update the blog but good news it miraculously appeared again today so on we go:banana:

thanks for the pictures.

Source: The Atlantic Project Manager Blog: http://atlantictower-dubai.blogspot.com/
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the site on the 25th of march 2008

GSPM,when do you reckon it will start to move upwards?

GSPM,when do you reckon it will start to move upwards?

well we did have a setback with the cement shortage we experienced in the UAE but lets get through the ground works and from there life will be much easier.

Hello Atlantic owners.

I am looking for 3 units at the Atlantic. Please let me know if any one is interested to resale his/her unit. My email diveksa@gmail.com. Please send me unit number and asking price. I am not an RE agent.

Thank you

Good luck Diveksa,the apartments now look as if they are taking on some individual costings, ie with regard to position in the building.Interestingly Betterhomes have a 2bed at 2.9mill plus,my guess would be that if and when we reach the 5th floor, all 2 beds will be 3mill plus.In the marina generally 1 beds seem to make more than 2 beds, but in this tower 2 beds are in high demand and on average more per sq/ft that 1 beds.I suspect the very large balconies that gulf shores fought hard to retain have a very positive bearing on this.Me I just want a bargain on the 15th floor.

Good luck Diveksa,the apartments now look as if they are taking on some individual costings, ie with regard to position in the building.Interestingly Betterhomes have a 2bed at 2.9mill plus,my guess would be that if and when we reach the 5th floor, all 2 beds will be 3mill plus.In the marina generally 1 beds seem to make more than 2 beds, but in this tower 2 beds are in high demand and on average more per sq/ft that 1 beds.I suspect the very large balconies that gulf shores fought hard to retain have a very positive bearing on this.Me I just want a bargain on the 15th floor.

27/03/08
Source: The-King:http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=295369&page=45

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Thank you Plotman.

Any new photos, last ones were from March 27th.

OK Steve,you going to keep nursing that hangover,or you going to get off your arse and post us some progress pictures.Now I am back in UK you are the MAN.

Hi everybody..........new user here from Bonnie Scotland(UK).......love the posts and the information provided.........looking for some help regarding the Atlantic tower........love the tower and the location and hope it turns out 2 b all that is promised.....involved in buying a resale from Oryx and wonderig if any of u guys have already been through the process and can provide me with some good advice??????????:)

looks a bit small for the area in the renders on page 1

Hi , I'm also from Scotland and have bought resale from Oryx. PM me and I will tell you what I know.

Hi everybody..........new user here from Bonnie Scotland(UK).......love the posts and the information provided.........looking for some help regarding the Atlantic tower........love the tower and the location and hope it turns out 2 b all that is promised.....involved in buying a resale from Oryx and wonderig if any of u guys have already been through the process and can provide me with some good advice??????????:)

Hi Dorra Boy Yes I to have used them several times and savilles for POA both firms are 100%.I would use again without doubt.Are you buying in the Atlantic and if so tell us about it.

looks a bit small for the area in the renders on page 1

ZZ-II You have been looking at too many of those tall towers at the other end of the marina,up there in SHADOW LAND, down here we have Space,Grace,and when GS starts PACE , I HOPE!.

Hi everybody..........new user here from Bonnie Scotland(UK).......love the posts and the information provided.........looking for some help regarding the Atlantic tower........love the tower and the location and hope it turns out 2 b all that is promised.....involved in buying a resale from Oryx and wonderig if any of u guys have already been through the process and can provide me with some good advice??????????:)

Seems to be a big Scottish contingant buying in the Atlantic,i am also Scottish and i bought through Oryx and everything went very smoothly,the only thing that i would say is that Pleth said in an earlier post that he was having trouble contacting them by phone but i am assuming that you haven't had that problem.

With the large Scottish contingent and a few Russian females in the development, it's going to be some Hogmany party :lol:

With the large Scottish contingent and a few Russian females in the development, it's going to be some Hogmany party :lol:

Lets set a date for Hogmany 2009 and GSPM is invited if he does a good job.(i'll supply the drink,TB will supply the entertainment)

mind an wear your kilts

Come on GSPM give us an update on the blog,its what keeps us going.

Oryx Real Estate is promising a lot of luxury on their website:
"High-Technology Internet and cable ready 42” plasma television pre-installed High definition home theatre system pre-installed multi-programme washing machine pre-installed
American-specification fridge pre-installed
Microwave pre-installed
Dishwasher pre-installed modern cooker pre-installed
Marble counters bathroom
Marble basins bathroom
Granite floorings bathroom
Adjustable lighting bathroom
Vanity mirrors bathroom
Powerful shower fittings bathroom"

But how much of this is actually true and written in the actual contract? Heard that the 42" plasma is a lie. :ohno:

Sounds like a great question,or set of questions.So ring RAY HOGAN MD of Oryx on his mobile 0505598295 Let us know the answers,or better still suggest he answers on the blog.

Sounds like a great question,or set of questions.So ring RAY HOGAN MD of Oryx on his mobile 0505598295 Let us know the answers,or better still suggest he answers on the blog.

Do you have the contract, Plotman?

Yes I do. No nothing in the contract.I questioned GSPM on this when in Dubai,there was no detail in his remit,regarding these items.Also no one at Oryx would comment on it.But to date I have not asked R Hogan.All the items would be a great bonus,but having bought resales I bought in to the location and the design.

In my contract it says that they can substitute any equipment as long as it is of equal or better quality so I presume it should be in all the contracts

But is it stated in black and white that you will get a plasma tv fridge cooker micro etc etc.

OK open question to RAY HOGAN at ORYX REALESTATE will your investors get what you promised them. Not so long ago Ray graced this thread with his views,and I for one found him very forthright,I do hope he replies.

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So have you got the tv etc in your contract.Mine is completely different,with payment to gulf shores,not mac and the payment schedule tied to 5th and 8th floor slab.

Pleth,you say you heard the tv was a lie,where did you here this?
Looking at the contract there is certainly nothing about finishings except that they
can be changed at the sellers discretion using materials of equal or better quality,
but thats not much good if the original materials and fittings are not listed in the
contract and only on the Oryx website.I originally thought i was buying the apartment
from Oryx but somewhere along the line that seems to have changed to Gulf Shores.
I would certainly like to hear Rays comments on the subject,i'm sure Oryx are a reputable
company and would never gloss over the truth to get a sale,i mean thats not something
estate agents have ever been guilty of.

Pleth,you say you heard the tv was a lie,where did you here this?
Looking at the contract there is certainly nothing about finishings except that they
can be changed at the sellers discretion using materials of equal or better quality,
but thats not much good if the original materials and fittings are not listed in the
contract and only on the Oryx website.I originally thought i was buying the apartment
from Oryx but somewhere along the line that seems to have changed to Gulf Shores.
I would certainly like to hear Rays comments on the subject,i'm sure Oryx are a reputable
company and would never gloss over the truth to get a sale,i mean thats not something
estate agents have ever been guilty of.

One of the sales staff working for Oryx told me it is not included!

Do any of you have the e-mail address of Ray? I do not think he reads these pages anymore.
I find it very strange that the contract does not specify any details of the finishing....

Rest assured the majority of contracts written in Dubai are not worth the paper their written on,read this forum, and time and time again you hear people not getting what there contract said.Its all a lottery and if it were not for the upward pricing pressure,we would all of gone by now.Put your trust in GSPM and keep you fingers crossed.

sorry for not responding on the blog yet its not that nothing is happening its just me waiting for a pile dynamic test so that we can cast concrete this test will b e completed tomorrow and we will have the results by Tuesday from the test center, i will then update as there is a lot to update.we have started with the steel fixing and all will be added Sunday

for now is there any owners that is selling one bed apartments i have a client very interested in buying please let me know.

Plotman thanks for your trust in me and i promise i will do the best to my abilities

OK open question to RAY HOGAN at ORYX REALESTATE will your investors get what you promised them. Not so long ago Ray graced this thread with his views,and I for one found him very forthright,I do hope he replies.

GS you know Ray quite well,see if we can have a quote.

GS you know Ray quite well,see if we can have a quote.

I'll give it a shot will chat to him on tomorrow(Sunday)

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par4, is that photos as I can't open them?

we clashed there

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Okay im trying to upload photos to the blog not possible can i sent these photos to anyone to upload it to scyskrapercity?:bleep::wallbash:

plotman are you there????

OK will try. I have pm you my email

plotman are you there????

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Atlantic as of 21 Apr 08

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Thanks M2. Update on GSPM photos,he did send file but it was corrupt.Now awaiting a new file.Atlantic blog is verbally updated.

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This is the original floor plan,i thought i would post a couple of alternatives that GSPM was maybe considering.

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This one would have a small 3rd bedroom but mabye a problem with ventilation.

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And this one with the kitchen moved back to make it more open plan.

To be correctly answered, I'll answer this one! we scheduled for handover on the 21st of June 2009 if the current concrete shortage repair itself.

Plus 49days = 9th August I GUESS!

Any pictures or updates?

Any pictures or updates?

i found a way to update will do so tonight, sorry but the blog is the one with the problems but i will find ways to beat the problems to get to solutions.:bash:

GSPM
still waiting!!!!

Thanks, I see the updated photos on the blog.

Great to see the update photos.Whats next,when will we see the first floor!
Oryx are saying they have heard from you that 5th floor and hence next payment will be mid june,can you confirm,Thanks Stephan.

What kind of payment plan are you on? I've paid 55% to date and only have to pay the final 45% on completion.

What kind of payment plan are you on? I've paid 55% to date and only have to pay the final 45% on completion.

I am the same as you,i think it is because we bought as resales.

Great to see the update photos.Whats next,when will we see the first floor!
Oryx are saying they have heard from you that 5th floor and hence next payment will be mid june,can you confirm,Thanks Stephan.

I think you can keep your money in the bank for a bit longer,because i cant see 5 floors being built in the next month and a half.

Well a floor a week (which should be poss)is only five weeks.I bought resales and have differing payment plans, some are 50% 0n completion and some 45%,but all are 10% 0n 5th floor and 10% on 8th floor, so todate I have paid 30 or 35%.I believe the original schedule was adjusted for delays,but of course if you were unaware then maybe you have stuck to the original plan.

I agree that a floor a week is possible but it looks like the first floor is still a fair bit away,although i am no expert.

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Thanks for photo

Yes, thanks.

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Excellent photos True Blue

thanks for the photos true blue but didn't see you, you don,t like my coffee or what?:hilarious
regarding the 5th floor, i can give you a date but with this concrete situation i don't want to so lets just see, and if anyone think that the projects around us are not going to have the same problems make yourself ready for a surprise, but enjoy the updates and lets see what happens, when we use the pump we will be better of regarding concrete supply as they fit us in first in their supply

Sorry I didn't manage in this time, lots of promises were broken this trip.

If you are pumping remember to have some bags of cement handy to grout up the pumps. Something I always forgot.

GSPM,your really spoiling us with these updates on the blog,keep up the good work.

GSPM
Yes it's much appreciated.

not too fast but at least few workers there..

15/May/2008

The Atlantic

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Hello

Good news for the Atlantic owners the current average market price for the Atlantic is AED 1500 per Sq. f.

Did any one buy/sell a unit at the Atlantic during 2008? Please share with us the date and the price?

please let me know if anyone is interested in unit 1701 owner selling

please let me know if anyone is interested in unit 1701 owner selling

How many bedroom is unit 1701,what is the price

How many bedroom is unit 1701,what is the price
sorry its 1702 and its a 3 bedroom outlooking the mall side of the Marina, its 2959 sq/f selling at UAE1,375.00sqf for a total of UAE4,068,625.00

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Its scary whats happened in 5 1/2 years.It could only happen in Dubai.

Amazing, you forget how it used to look.

New updated pictures on the blog.Hopefully it will start to rise soon.http://atlantictower-dubai.blogspot.com/

Hey Guys.
Have a look at http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=21546878#post21546878 and no. 960.
It seems they are working on the Atlantic at night as well.

Good on them,they did say once that they would be working 24hrs,but i didn't think it would really happen.

Any signs of it rising yet?

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Oryx prediction of 5 floors by mid june seems to have been a tad optomistic.

PAR4 a tad as a measurement is half the width of a sparrows kneecap,I would say they have missed it by a trillion nano miles.Give GS his due they do only have one B&Q electric mixer,as for Oryx it would appear Ray Hogan has tired of answering questions that need real answers.If you check this forum he clearly states that Gulfshores would have a escrow account in place by the end of 2007,and he would keep us informed,and todate not a word,but today (via email) Gulfshores have only just announced the Escrow is now up and running.Also check out the NEW Oryx website,its still touting the plasma TVs etc for the Atlantic,so Ray please give us a truthful answer.

Good to hear from you again Plotman,it does seem to be taking forever to get of the ground,i dont know whether this is because cement shortages or lack of workforce or what.I wish GSPM could give us some dates as he is the only one i trust to tell it as it is,and as for all the b/s about tellies and fridges i think we can take with a pinch of salt,and if it happens then its a bonus.

ladies and gentlemen we are out of the ground we completed the raft this morning at 3am and very tired but its done i will update tomorrow, we will cast the ground floor end July and august we will be casting 3 slabs I'm going on vacation for the month of July but will communicate with you from South Africa

ladies and gentlemen we are out of the ground we completed the raft this morning at 3am and very tired but its done i will update tomorrow, we will cast the ground floor end July and august we will be casting 3 slabs I'm going on vacation for the month of July but will communicate with you from South Africa

Terrific GSP. It must be a bit hot for you? I will be coming in July to take photos :wave:

Very well done GS, have a good vacation.Can we assume 5th slab will be september.

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GS goes on hols and Trueblue steps in,sorts scaffolding and ensures all surplus concrete is shovelled back in the mixer.The picture clearly shows TB forgot the
mortar in the blockwork and the top half of wall has fallen down!!

Done a risk assessment, scaffolding takes too long and we are already behind so load of blocks dumped to build up some temp access. If H+S turns up we can say they are just tables for having our tea breaks.:horse:

None of the concrete is surplus, it is all going into the cavities of the wall. The guy in the yellow hat didn't get the "everything blue from now on" memo. Deal with him soon.

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Making good progress here. :banana:

^^Please delete the word "good". :)

Making progress here. :banana:

Well done Steph!!

I am available to stand in for you as Select Properties returned my CV again, even though I dropped my rate to 50 dirhams per hour. :lol:

:cry: Can't understand why they don't like me :dunno:

ye right! with the current rise in material im hardly affordable. lol

Very well done GS, have a good vacation.Can we assume 5th slab will be september.

i agree it sounds realistic for now

Done a risk assessment, scaffolding takes too long and we are already behind so load of blocks dumped to build up some temp access. If H+S turns up we can say they are just tables for having our tea breaks.:horse:

None of the concrete is surplus, it is all going into the cavities of the wall. The guy in the yellow hat didn't get the "everything blue from now on" memo. Deal with him soon.

i have no comment but on this picture it sure looks like primitive ways doesn't it

Have a good holiday Stephan.I assume someone else is cracking the whip while your gone.

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Yes Trueblue has had a word with the men,they are now all at the DS site.

Plotman is there any way of seeing the 24 photos as I clicked on it and nothing happens.

Checkout the Baycentral thread,it might be my imagination but it looks like something has finally appeared above ground level.

Plotman is there any way of seeing the 24 photos as I clicked on it and nothing happens.

Sheltie These photos were sent to me from Gulf shores as an update,thought all investors had received them,the file was to large to upload.If you do not have them chase Gulfshores or PM me your email and I will forward.