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Pleth November 19th, 2008, 10:00 AM pleth are you joking you don't know this?, lol i will explain this in a virtual tour, but as you saw on the virtual tour i posted there is two lobbies. but i promise to explain this in full detail next time
No, I don't know this! COL :cry::cry::cry: Am I the only person who doesn't know this? :hammer::hammer:
GSProjectManager November 19th, 2008, 10:04 AM No, I don't know this! COL :cry::cry::cry: Am I the only person who doesn't know this? :hammer::hammer:
i hope not!!! :lol::lol:
plotman November 19th, 2008, 06:42 PM no they are separate from each other you will not be able to enter the 2 and 3 bedroom tower from the 1 bedroom tower side,we believe in diversity among piers, their the family we don't talk about:lurker::nocrook:Just joking everybody please don't take offense
I only asked this question because of what you said in your video,up until now I had thought there was only one lobby.I am not aware of any plans that show the reception areas or common parts,maybe you can post them. THANKS
GSProjectManager November 23rd, 2008, 11:42 AM i will try and do that for you, and plotman i was only kidding.
Pleth November 24th, 2008, 11:00 PM Hi Steve, Are you working Fridays or Saturdays? I am just wondering because I might be nearby this weekend... :)
GSProjectManager November 25th, 2008, 08:49 AM Hi Steve, Are you working Fridays or Saturdays? I am just wondering because I might be nearby this weekend... :)
heeeee:lol: you are so funny!!!
aaaaaghhh okay give me a call,
Pleth November 25th, 2008, 09:08 AM heeeee:lol: you are so funny!!!
aaaaaghhh okay give me a call,
Look I am your biggest fan, I deserve the red carpet, - so my high heals won't sink into the marshy concrete and dust! :colgate:
plotman November 25th, 2008, 07:10 PM Look I am your biggest fan, I deserve the red carpet, - so my high heals won't sink into the marshy concrete and dust! :colgate:
Sounds great Stephan,can you post a photo of that!
GSProjectManager November 26th, 2008, 09:09 AM Sounds great Stephan,can you post a photo of that!
WHEN IN THE SAND OR WITHOUT THE SHOES PLOTMAN MY CAMERA IS HIGH RESOLUTIONS AND ACTION SHOTS COMES OUT PERFECTLY, PLETH ARE YOU NOW SURE ABOUT THIS LITTLE VISIT TO THE SITE? MMMMMMMM I WONDER!:lol: AND THE RED CARPET I'M SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU BUT IT SEEMS THERE IS A DUNE TODAY WHERE MY CARPET WAS YESTERDAY, THE DESERT ITS GOT A MIND OF ITS OWN:bash:
Pleth November 26th, 2008, 11:55 PM WHEN IN THE SAND OR WITHOUT THE SHOES PLOTMAN MY CAMERA IS HIGH RESOLUTIONS AND ACTION SHOTS COMES OUT PERFECTLY, PLETH ARE YOU NOW SURE ABOUT THIS LITTLE VISIT TO THE SITE? MMMMMMMM I WONDER!:lol: AND THE RED CARPET I'M SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU BUT IT SEEMS THERE IS A DUNE TODAY WHERE MY CARPET WAS YESTERDAY, THE DESERT ITS GOT A MIND OF ITS OWN:bash:
So Steven when are you not working? I will sneak in and spy, pinch your lunch box and you won't even know I was there. Just like the other times I was there! :cheer::cheer::runaway::runaway:
True Blue November 27th, 2008, 01:41 AM Still waiting on a picture of these high heels..:naughty:
GSProjectManager November 27th, 2008, 01:55 PM So Steven when are you not working? I will sneak in and spy, pinch your lunch box and you won't even know I was there. Just like the other times I was there! :cheer::cheer::runaway::runaway:
hahahahaha you are so funny, you crack me up, just give me a call and i'll swing by, what i wont do for you guys and girls. you almost had me there!
GSProjectManager November 27th, 2008, 01:56 PM Still waiting on a picture of these high heels..:naughty:
don't worry true blue its a done deal
GSProjectManager November 30th, 2008, 10:44 AM pleth
i'm still waiting where are you
diveksa November 30th, 2008, 04:01 PM Any update about the Atlantic site.:wave:
Imre December 2nd, 2008, 03:35 PM no progress here since August , we should move to the ON HOLD section.
it seems nobody at the site, just look the quality of the materials...
02/December/2008
The Atlantic
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diveksa December 2nd, 2008, 04:01 PM no progress here since August , we should move to the ON HOLD section.
it seems nobody at the site, just look the quality of the materials...
Thank you Imre.
I agree progress at the Atlantic is very slow.
What do you mean by the quality of the material?
Imre December 2nd, 2008, 04:16 PM just look the steels, rusted
Sheltie December 2nd, 2008, 11:51 PM Come on GSPM, WHAT'S HAPPENING? Why is nobody on site?
Pleth December 3rd, 2008, 09:23 AM Hi Guys,
First of all I am sorry I did not get inside the site, but I could not find the red carpet.... sorry I mean a parking space!!
So I decided to come back later, but couldn't. The whole area is so busy, and I did not notice that the Atlantic site was closed. Anyway I will be back to Dubai in 3 weeks time. (This is a warning to Steve :lol:).
Yesterday when Imre took the photos it was National Day, which is a national holiday, nobody were working anywhere.
A lot of Emiraties take a holiday from National Day until after Eid the 12th December, I even think RERA will be closed for 12 days!
Sheltie December 3rd, 2008, 10:32 AM Thanks Pleth
That makes me feel a lot better.
diveksa December 3rd, 2008, 11:13 AM It is not fair. The Atlantic does not fit ON HOLD/Never Built. :ohno:
We should create a waiting for approval category or a turtle speed category then move the Atlantic there. :lol:
par4 December 3rd, 2008, 12:02 PM I am beginning to wonder about Dubai,things slow down in the summer because of the heat,slow down again for a month during ramadan and now there is a 12 day holiday at the beginning of december.No wonder every project is running late,although i have to say the Atlantic does seem to be much slower than everything else.It seems strange to me that we often appear to be waiting for some sort of authorisation or other,surely as this project was announced so many years ago,it would have all the planning consents it needed.Why does no-one apply for these consents or plans in advance instead of waiting till the last minute and then the whole thing comes to a standstill once more,this would seem simple management or am i missing something along the line,i mean lets get real here,most of us have had money invested in this project for over 2 years and so far have got half a basement floor to show for it.
Pleth December 3rd, 2008, 12:11 PM I am beginning to wonder about Dubai,things slow down in the summer because of the heat,slow down again for a month during ramadan and now there is a 12 day holiday at the beginning of december.No wonder every project is running late,although i have to say the Atlantic does seem to be much slower than everything else.It seems strange to me that we often appear to be waiting for some sort of authorisation or other,surely as this project was announced so many years ago,it would have all the planning consents it needed.Why does no-one apply for these consents or plans in advance instead of waiting till the last minute and then the whole thing comes to a standstill once more,this would seem simple management or am i missing something along the line,.
I think the Atlantic is very fast compared to the others! I have also invested in Al Dua'a Marina Tower next to the Atlantic, and trust me they are a LOT slower and very disorganized. :bash:
The reason no-one apply for approvals before-hand is probably because the laws are changed every day!
In my opinion Dubai is getting like the property market in Bulgaria and Turkey with lots of crooks around, :ohno: not a safe place to invest.
I would rather invest in good old Spain!
par4 December 3rd, 2008, 12:22 PM Well it is just that for the Atlantic to have been moved to the on hold section then it must look slower than everything else.
diveksa December 4th, 2008, 12:41 AM Everything in these project is done in sequential not parallel process witch explain why the project is waiting for approval from time to time.
The project manager of the Atlantic is committed for the end of 2009. Who wants to believe that? It is a small building with 17 floors. We need an expert opinion may be True Blue can give us his input after reviewing this project or after a meeting with the Atlantic project manager?
diveksa December 4th, 2008, 01:40 AM If the Atlantic is going to be delivered end of 2009 the owners will lose the rent of their unit for two years. This is 200k per year X 2 = 400k.
I think the only way to get the developer on track is by pressuring them and ask for the compensation thru a legal company. One of the owners should coordinate with all the owners and contract one of the legal firms to do this job for them.
The owners should not just accept every excuse. At least you should put a pressure on the developer so:
Developer does not delay the delivery date any more.
You might get the compensation for the delay of the project which is alternative accommodation or rent according to the contract (see below).
You do not lose the rent of your unit for a third year.
Good luck Atlantic owners.
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Dubai_Steve December 4th, 2008, 03:38 AM I don't think there is any chance that this can be handed over by end of 2009. More like 2011 at the current pace.
Josau December 4th, 2008, 03:44 PM just look the steels, rusted
^^A responsible builder should cover any steel segments exposed, if there is a halt to construction, especially in this climate and at 800 m from the ocean. If I look at older photos this steel has been out in the open for a long time, thus the rust.
Dubai_Steve December 4th, 2008, 04:19 PM I can see this one being cancelled.
Sheltie December 4th, 2008, 05:04 PM Aaaaarg!!!! Please don't say that. Come on GSPM are you there?
True Blue December 4th, 2008, 09:48 PM just look the steels, rusted
:lol: They come delivered like that where I stay.
Surface corrosion is generaly superficial and does not continue once the concrete sets around it. I would only expect it to be a problem where the rods were under water for an extended period of time as they are in most pile cages.
Imre took the pics during a holiday as he wants the prices to come down so he can afford one of the 3 beds:D
My friend was in Dubai last week and noticed around 30 labour onsite, he did say they were not very productive which suggests that they are waiting for something, Christmas perhaps.
I am in the marina this weekend so will check it out, although again this is the Eid holiday weekend so not expecting to see much. I will check the materials quality while I'm there..:okay:
Sheltie December 5th, 2008, 12:06 AM That's great True Blue, I expect Stephen is on holiday or he would have answered on here.
Imre December 5th, 2008, 06:00 AM :lol: They come delivered like that where I stay.
Imre took the pics during a holiday as he wants the prices to come down so he can afford one of the 3 beds:D
holiday or not, there is no progress at all.
par4 December 5th, 2008, 11:22 AM I think the lack of progress is to do with some plans that apparantly are needed before they can go any higher,and acording to GSPM once they have these it will be all systems go till the end,barring holidays,heat,material shortages,workforce shotages,red tape,earthquakes,floods,& nasty rashes,so i think we can all relax.
True Blue December 6th, 2008, 06:19 PM holiday or not, there is no progress at all.
What side of the bed did you fall out of :lol:
Visited the site this afternoon and there was plenty of shuttering joiners setting up an edge downstand beam on the first suspended floor. The site engineer was doing a bit of surveying and setting out and the tower crane was lifting formwork decking panels up onto the floor area. :baeh3:
This project is on hold because the info from the site is that there is a hold up with design approvals which is slowing things down. The site engineer told me that the next pour was due in 2-3weeks. Not sure about that but when the concrete starts flowing again it can go back to U/C.
Imre, see me in my office at Marina Motor Yacht Cub, the bar is open, 30aed a beer :cheers:
mackie1964 December 6th, 2008, 06:52 PM ^^~Have a few more, its 7-1 to your team at the moment...I think :cheers:
Sheltie December 6th, 2008, 07:16 PM Thanks True Blue.
Imre December 6th, 2008, 07:38 PM What side of the bed did you fall out of :lol:
Visited the site this afternoon and there was plenty of shuttering joiners setting up an edge downstand beam on the first suspended floor. The site engineer was doing a bit of surveying and setting out and the tower crane was lifting formwork decking panels up onto the floor area. :baeh3:
This project is on hold because the info from the site is that there is a hold up with design approvals which is slowing things down. The site engineer told me that the next pour was due in 2-3weeks. Not sure about that but when the concrete starts flowing again it can go back to U/C.
Imre, see me in my office at Marina Motor Yacht Cub, the bar is open, 30aed a beer :cheers:
good news, lets wait the miracle then:)
True Blue December 6th, 2008, 11:50 PM ^^Still a hope and a prayer, save the miracle for BC.:lol:
Dubai_Steve December 7th, 2008, 05:06 PM http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5756/alternativeaccommodatiolr8.jpg
How they hell are they going to afford to pay that much compensation!
I hope they have not done a runner!
True Blue December 7th, 2008, 07:33 PM ^^ Payments are linked to progress and I don't think they have been paid any more than 30% at this stage. So not much to do a runner with.
Now if they were SP with 90% at this stage..:runaway:
Dubai_Steve December 7th, 2008, 07:41 PM But how will they afford to pay for "rent equal to the kind of units bought and its rental value as per the market at that time, up to the date of delivery of the unit to the Buyer" for every unit until 2011? :nuts:
If they are sued by the owners for this compensation, they will go under, so best to do a runner now.
Have you started your claim for compensation yet TB, any news?
True Blue December 7th, 2008, 07:59 PM I had to pull out of my Atlantic purchase due to the over budget cost of my Scottish castle.
I am still lurking in a kind of basking shark way.
Not all the contracts are the same as most owners are now second or third owners and in the resales process their contracts were altered. (I believe)
Where I think Gulf Shores may have a problem is that they need to make the 5th floor to receive the next payment. They may need bank help to get there and we all know how difficult that is at this time.
Most developers front load their payment plans to avoid such problems (SP take it too far :D) but Oryx could have got their sums wrong and sold it on to Gulf Shores who may have seen an oportunity to get into the market as things were skyrocketing. Lets hope they are better at arithmetic.
diveksa December 7th, 2008, 10:46 PM Thank you TrueBlue for your valuable input. ^^I think the original owner from the beginning is Gulf Shore and they contracted Oryx for marketing the building. Please see my previous post about the business relation between Gulf Shore and Oryx.
Dated August 13th, 2008, post 560 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=23933470&postcount=560
I did some research about this development and it could help The Atlantic owners understand the history of this development:
1. The developer of The Atlantic is Gulf Shores a subsidiary of Al Minwal General Trading Co LLC; a Dubai based and registered company.
2. ORYX Real Estate is a subsidiary of Al Minwal General Trading Co LLC. See this link: http://al-braik.com/
3. MAC Corporation LLC / Oryx Real Estate awarded the exclusive contract to market and sell all of Gulf Shore’s Dubai developments
4. Lately ORYX Real Estate lost its commercial registration because of a conflict between the management of the ORYX Real Estate and Al Minwal General Trading Co
5. ORYX Real Estate issued a new and independent commercial registration and it is not any more a subsidiary of Al Minwal General Trading Co LLC.
Please let me know if anyone thinks this not correct information.
This is Oryx confirmation:
Dated August 17th, 2008, post 564 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=24118552&postcount=564
Yes diveksa, you are correct about Oryx no longer being a part of Al Minwal.
The marketing material about the white goods on our website was an oversight. Since we are no longer directly involved with the developer or the project, we were not updated about the amenities. Oryx now only markets apartments that are on resale like any other real estate agency.
Ray is away on leave and hence hasn't been able to reply back to the earlier queries.
Still waiting for Ray reply??!!
True Blue December 9th, 2008, 09:59 PM Taken on Saturday 6th Dec. Some shuttering joiners onsite working on the first suspended floor and edge downstand beam. No sign of Mr GSPM, more holidays than the Queen!
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Dubai_Steve December 9th, 2008, 11:08 PM Good progress for 3 years work. :lol:
diveksa December 10th, 2008, 02:52 PM It seems there is some progress. Please take a look at the following two pictures:
Dec. 2nd by Imre
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Dec. 6th by TrueBlue
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GSProjectManager December 10th, 2008, 02:54 PM no and there was no holiday with me it's all work and sorry still waiting from the authorities for approval but their is the small thing they call sub contractors, and my shuttering contructor is on site will post an update soon, dropped my camera from the crane trying to do updates just waiting to receive it from repaires, how do you upload a acrobat drawing to the site anyone, its the document that states the progress of the approval just to ease the pressure of thinking we are sinking, no we are not and i want to post this so that you all can sleep better.
regarding the rust i cannot remember who answered this but thank you, yes its artificial and will be treated again its just rust building on the outside we did apply protection but the time its been exposed will have its toll
sorry for not responding earlier but been busy, regarding the approval the eid holiday is till the 13th and we will have an update then, this is realy out of my hands and we can only hope for a quick responce
plotman December 10th, 2008, 03:25 PM Well!! Been away working for a while what a surprise to read this yesterday evening.Still got up this morning to read old faithful,thanks GS.Now will the ill informed person who scarred the shit out of me put us back to under construction and please dont move it again unless we know the worst as a matter of fact.
plotman December 10th, 2008, 03:29 PM Diveksa! Took me a while,that spot the difference quiz,BUT i found it,Its the shovel?
diveksa December 10th, 2008, 05:28 PM Diveksa! Took me a while,that spot the difference quiz,BUT i found it,Its the shovel?
There are four indicators for progress on site. Please take a look at the picture below. Also, the Green one proves that the GSPM was reading the forum and he acted immediately and covered the steel.
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9748/dec6thwv4.jpg
diveksa December 10th, 2008, 05:33 PM how do you upload a acrobat drawing to the site anyone, its the document that states the progress of the approval just to ease the pressure of thinking we are sinking, no we are not and i want to post this so that you all can sleep better.
GSPM please send the pdf file to diveksa@gmail.com and I will convert it for you to jpg file so you can post it at the forum.
diveksa December 10th, 2008, 06:18 PM Now will the ill informed person who scarred the shit out of me put us back to under construction and please dont move it again unless we know the worst as a matter of fact.
We ask the moderator
to put the Atlantic back to under construction
to be careful before they change any development status. We are scaring the owners and the potential buyers. :mad2:
:ohno: We do not want to send a wrong signal in the market about any development. It is better to ask the active forum members for their opinion and contact the developer for his feedback before we change the status of the development.
One of the good things about this project is the project manager:applause:. He gave us his email and mobile number and he asked anyone to contact him in case we have a question about this development. The Atlantic owners should be grateful for having such a project manager.
GSProjectManager December 11th, 2008, 12:12 AM GSPM please send the pdf file to diveksa@gmail.com and I will convert it for you to jpg file so you can post it at the forum.
thank you diveksa i send you an email this morning, with the attachment, it will be good for the all to see, there is also new photos on the blog from the ground floor
diveksa December 11th, 2008, 02:47 PM thank you diveksa i send you an email this morning, with the attachment, it will be good for the all to see, there is also new photos on the blog from the ground floor
Page one:
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Page two
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diveksa December 11th, 2008, 04:01 PM GSPM I thought this is the layout of the Atlantic units:
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8738/apartmentloctationandvirp6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
But in your Blog you are saying this is the view of unit 3 for the following picture
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9505/10desember2008005fu0.jpg
Is it a typo and this is the view of unit 4?
Pleth December 11th, 2008, 11:02 PM Well!! Been away working for a while what a surprise to read this yesterday evening.Still got up this morning to read old faithful,thanks GS.Now will the ill informed person who scarred the shit out of me put us back to under construction and please dont move it again unless we know the worst as a matter of fact.
Agree!
Don't forget all the bank holidays there are between 1 - 13 December.
par4 December 12th, 2008, 10:50 AM Diveksa,on your diagram of the unit numbers,i think you might have them the wrong way round,i thought units 2 & 3 were at the mall side and 1 & 4 at the one bed unit side.GSPM seems to also think this,i wonder how we could clarify this.
Imre December 12th, 2008, 02:32 PM http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/9595/imresolt099fr0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I saw the site today , they covered the steel with plastic.
diveksa December 12th, 2008, 03:20 PM I received this drawing today. It is an Atlantic design approved on Aug. 2007 by Dubai Marina Review Panel at Emmar Properties. Please take a look at the red circles which indicate the unit number:
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/2894/7thfloorplan2ys6.jpg
2B= Two Bedrooms
01, 02, 03 and 04 = Unit number
diveksa December 12th, 2008, 03:59 PM GSPM can you please post the latest floor plan?
234sale December 13th, 2008, 07:54 AM We ask the moderator
to put the Atlantic back to under construction
to be careful before they change any development status. We are scaring the owners and the potential buyers. :mad2:
:ohno: We do not want to send a wrong signal in the market about any development. It is better to ask the active forum members for their opinion and contact the developer for his feedback before we change the status of the development.
Its on hold,, not cancelled
Will review when next construction photo is posted.
diveksa December 13th, 2008, 12:12 PM Its on hold,, not cancelled
Will review when next construction photo is posted.
Thank you 234sale. Would you please let us know your criteria for moving projects to on hold status?
diveksa December 13th, 2008, 12:19 PM From GSPM Blog
Dated Dec. 10th
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/739/10desember2008015bc6.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7937/10desember2008012vu0.jpg
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234sale December 13th, 2008, 12:46 PM I didn't move it in,, My criteria is that no increase in structure, or reason to believe it has stopped. We have 3 active mods,, AltinD and I live in Dubai.
It does look as if this development has stopped though. Maybe changing contractor or a dispute, it does happen
PM AltinD and request for it to be moved,, we are all friends here.
Thankyou for the photos and info.
AltinD December 13th, 2008, 11:15 PM I didn't move it here either
... and I also don't care about the "... scaring the owners and the potential buyers ..." part. This forum is not geared toward home owners or real estate investors, everyone who think otherwise will be in "trouble" one moment or another.
To close the argument: The latest Imre updates shows the tower is ON HOLD and whoever move it to this section, was totally right.
234sale December 14th, 2008, 07:15 AM I have to agree,, what does the developer say?
True Blue December 14th, 2008, 01:17 PM The developer admitted a hold status awaiting approval of latest information. This appears to be resolved now and we should see the floor being poured. When we see evidence of concrete placement on site we will know for sure this is no longer on hold.
diveksa December 14th, 2008, 02:32 PM I didn't move it here either
... and I also don't care about the "... scaring the owners and the potential buyers ..." part. This forum is not geared toward home owners or real estate investors, everyone who think otherwise will be in "trouble" one moment or another.
To close the argument: The latest Imre updates shows the tower is ON HOLD and whoever move it to this section, was totally right.
Thank you AltinD. Would you please let us know your criteria for moving projects to on hold status?
GSProjectManager December 15th, 2008, 12:18 PM GSPM I thought this is the layout of the Atlantic units:
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8738/apartmentloctationandvirp6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
But in your Blog you are saying this is the view of unit 3 for the following picture
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9505/10desember2008005fu0.jpg
Is it a typo and this is the view of unit 4?
no i'm correct its unit 3 your units is nubered wrong
your numbering / wright numbering
3 = 1
4 = 2
1 = 3
2 = 4
theirfore 3 is the veiw your expierencing
Pleth December 15th, 2008, 02:23 PM I didn't move it here either
To close the argument: The latest Imre updates shows the tower is ON HOLD and whoever move it to this section, was totally right.
Imre's photo was taken on a national holiday 02.12.2008 where nobody is working.
diveksa December 15th, 2008, 03:44 PM no i'm correct its unit 3 your units is nubered wrong
your numbering / wright numbering
3 = 1
4 = 2
1 = 3
2 = 4
theirfore 3 is the veiw your expierencing
Thank you GSPM. But this is different than the floor plan I post at Post#811 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=29293924&postcount=811) Can you please review it again?
The floor plan matches my drawing.
What about the Atlantic owners do they have the same thing in their contract?
par4 December 15th, 2008, 05:14 PM Diveksa,where did you you get that floor plan? I have never seen that one before and i agree it does show the layout that you are talking about.Strangely enough,the layout that i thought was right doesn't match either yours or GSPM's.
Pleth December 15th, 2008, 05:32 PM I bought the 1203 and my view will be towards the Atlantic 1 bedr. apartments and towards the Grosvenor House end....
My friend bought 1204 and he was told the view would be over the Marina Mall Hotel.
Have a look at page 17 # 333. This is what I believe is right... :wink2:
My floor plan is like type "03" and not "01"....
plotman December 15th, 2008, 09:18 PM Diveksa and Pleth I have to agree with you both,as far as plans and No,s go on my contracts,if its as GS say,s then all the Sq footage is completely wrong and the balcony measurements do not tie up.
Imre December 16th, 2008, 07:00 AM Imre's photo was taken on a national holiday 02.12.2008 where nobody is working.
right
Dont worry,I am sure they will move back to U/C when the next floor done.
GSProjectManager December 16th, 2008, 11:45 AM Thank you GSPM. But this is different than the floor plan I post at Post#811 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=29293924&postcount=811) Can you please review it again?
The floor plan matches my drawing.
What about the Atlantic owners do they have the same thing in their contract?
that is the original numbers but we changed it, i don't know where you got hold of those drawings, the layout is correct the numbers are wrong and i beleived mine to be correct:ohno:, but i might be wrong here:dunno:, shame on me!!! this is as per new brochure send by orix, and i beleive all owners to be in posesion of this
diveksa December 16th, 2008, 12:46 PM Unit 4
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GSPM and Atlantic owners it seems there is a misunderstanding and we need to clarify it? :dizzy: :?: :hammer: :gaah: :dunno: :nuts:
Can every owner provide us with the following:
unit number(last digit):
Apartment area BUA:
Total area ABUA (Balcony+BUA):
then we can try to figure out the right location for every unit
par4 December 16th, 2008, 01:04 PM I think it is pretty clear that Diveksa is right here as it shows quite clearly on the plan he posted what the unit numbers are.If you have bought unit 1 or 2 then they cant be at the sides because the side units are bigger.
plotman December 16th, 2008, 04:55 PM Diveksa plan is correct.but as I said in a early post Oryx printed it as a mirror image also (which was incorrect).If you look at the small plan,I fail to see how the units facing directly to the marina,ie middle two can have as printed a CITY SKYLINE VIEW this I believe is a hangover from their mirror image.
diveksa December 17th, 2008, 12:08 AM http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5632/googlecy4.jpg
Dorra Boy December 17th, 2008, 01:35 AM Have purchased an 04 unit and based on the Oryx sales information this should b a 2 bed apartment type B- Apartment area 1544sq ft- Total Area 1852 sq ft -I understand that the view from the unit is to the Marina Mall....................
Cant understand why the construction team have conflicting information!!!!!!!!
par4 December 17th, 2008, 06:07 PM GSPM,do you have the approvals yet to move on.
GSProjectManager December 18th, 2008, 12:41 PM sorry Diveksa your numbers are perfect, i appologise for the misunderstanding, regarding the approvals i spoke to the authoritys and its been send to the senior architect, they saw that it 's been hanging for a while and said 3 working days, so hopefully we will have it by monday 22 December 2008, but we are almost finish with the slab soffit and we did start the steel binding on the beams
diveksa December 18th, 2008, 12:48 PM Thank you GSPM. Would you please post new pictures of the Atlantic site?
diveksa December 18th, 2008, 12:51 PM Just to confimr the Dubai Marina Mall will be opening on the 22nd of December 2008 a lot earlier then most expected.
It has 390,000 sq ft of leasable area, approx room for 160 retailers.....
Read the rest here http://www.thedubailife.com/home/the-wire/dubai-marina-mall-to-house-160-retailers
:banana:
diveksa December 18th, 2008, 01:19 PM Imre :applause:
Waiting for the Atlantic at the red spot..
09/December/2008:
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plotman December 20th, 2008, 10:55 AM Good friend of mine took a look at the site for me last week,reported back that there were a good number of workers busy with shuttering,this job might be slow but it is still ticking over.
True Blue December 20th, 2008, 01:39 PM ^^This is true and you benefit from direct comms with the project manager who is keeping you informed of the reasons why they are slowing things down.
Even Emaar keep their investors in the dark about delays. Others just lie!
Imre December 20th, 2008, 03:51 PM Today I saw workers there, they had a tea break when I took the pics:)
20/December/2008
Atlantic
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plotman December 20th, 2008, 10:36 PM Once again Imre you're a star,thanks for all your great updates. You must be one of the few people in the area that has an extensive knowledge of all projects. Have you ever thought of becoming a mod.
GSProjectManager December 21st, 2008, 02:44 PM we received the building permit and are now clear for take off, we will be casting the ramp on thuesday if all goes well, we first have to cast the ramp to be able to complete the slab preparations over the ramp area as the columns in that area are necesary to hold the slab! I send Diveksa the report and hopefully he will post it, thanks Diveksa for your continuous support
plotman December 21st, 2008, 03:29 PM Good news GS well done. Houston its all systems GO
Pleth December 21st, 2008, 04:12 PM we received the building permit and are now clear for take off, we will be casting the ramp on thuesday if all goes well, we first have to cast the ramp to be able to complete the slab preparations over the ramp area as the columns in that area are necesary to hold the slab! I send Diveksa the report and hopefully he will post it, thanks Diveksa for your continuous support´
Jubiiiiiiiiii, thank you Steve.
Let's celebrate :)
diveksa December 22nd, 2008, 10:36 AM we received the building permit ..... I send Diveksa the report and hopefully he will post it, thanks Diveksa for your continuous support
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par4 December 22nd, 2008, 10:36 AM Excellent news at last.
plotman December 24th, 2008, 02:55 PM Merry Xmas GSPM and all.
dubaiflo December 25th, 2008, 04:45 PM So why is this on hold?
GSProjectManager December 26th, 2008, 01:47 PM So why is this on hold?
i don't understund the on hold this is my veiw of it, #UNDER C: THE ATLANTIC, 20F Res (Dubai Marina) (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ... Last Page)
AltinD December 26th, 2008, 03:35 PM ^^ You are both right.
diveksa December 27th, 2008, 07:33 PM This is what the Atlantic owners will see when they will come to park their cars.:banana: They might see the water if GSPM does not build a wall and block the water view.:wallbash:
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diveksa December 27th, 2008, 07:55 PM GSPM did you cast the ramp?
Can you post the final and approved floor drawing?
It is end of 2008; can you finish this project in 12 months? Or you are going to change your completion date?
When are you going to start working 16 or 24 hours per day on this project as you premised? Do you need approval from any one to do that?
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par4 January 5th, 2009, 10:37 AM GSPM did you cast the ramp?
Can you post the final and approved floor drawing?
It is end of 2008; can you finish this project in 12 months? Or you are going to change you completion date?
When are you going to start working 16 or 24 hours per day on this project as you premised? Do you need approval from any one to do that?
Diveksa,have you had an answer to these questions yet or are you visiting Dubai to ask GSPM personally.
diveksa January 5th, 2009, 08:51 PM Diveksa,have you had an answer to these questions yet or are you visiting Dubai to ask GSPM personally.
Par4 I was hoping to get the answer from GSP thru the forum.
I am still waiting for GSP?
par4 January 6th, 2009, 11:27 AM Lets hope he cant answer because he is too busy.
Pleth January 7th, 2009, 10:28 PM Hi Guys,
I visited Steve today and I can assure you things are really happening on the site.
Steve was so nice and informative and gave me a tour on the site, everything looks really great. 80 Men in blue working there, and what a great progress.
I have taken a lot of photos but do not have much time to post them here, can somebody else do it for me, pls?
I will leave the photos out of me on the building site in high heels without wearing a safety helmet (it makes your hair flat!!) :hahaha::hahaha:
GSProjectManager January 8th, 2009, 09:51 AM Par 4 and Diveksa
sorry for not responding, its not that i don't want to answer more the fact that i don't want to give you any false hope, before containing all the information required to give you such answers
par4 January 8th, 2009, 10:29 AM Pleth,mabye Diveksa could post your photos,i look forward to seeing them and dont you go leaving any out:lol:
GSProjectManager January 8th, 2009, 12:22 PM Pleth,mabye Diveksa could post your photos,i look forward to seeing them and dont you go leaving any out:lol:
those high heels got stuck, we had the whole fire department here to see how we can solve the riddle!:lol:
diveksa January 8th, 2009, 01:25 PM Hi Guys,
I visited Steve today and I can assure you things are really happening on the site.
Steve was so nice and informative and gave me a tour on the site, everything looks really great. 80 Men in blue working there, and what a great progress.
I have taken a lot of photos but do not have much time to post them here, can somebody else do it for me, pls?
I will leave the photos out of me on the building site in high heels without wearing a safety helmet (it makes your hair flat!!) :hahaha::hahaha:
Pleth,mabye Diveksa could post your photos,i look forward to seeing them and dont you go leaving any out:lol:
:banana:Please send me the photos and I will post it for you. My email is diveksa@gmail.com.
Pleth make sure you send ALL photos speacial the ...:lol:
Pleth January 8th, 2009, 04:59 PM those high heels got stuck, we had the whole fire department here to see how we can solve the riddle!:lol:
:nono::nono: Steve, you promised not to tell the insider information!!
Okay Diversa, I will send them by e-mail. :)
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diveksa January 8th, 2009, 11:11 PM Thank you Pleth for the photos and we are looking forward to see the next set of pictures specially you just moved to Dubai. :applause:
Pleth January 9th, 2009, 09:30 AM http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6136/CIMG2403.jpg
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These 2 photos were just to show you how wide the Marina Walk is around the Atlantic! It is much wider than I expected, and it looks very nice.:)
Thank you Diveksa for uploading.
plotman January 9th, 2009, 11:27 AM Thanks for photos Pleth.Good luck in Dubai,great now you are on site look forward to more photos if you get time.Is it really full steam ahead or is this just a spurt.
Pleth January 9th, 2009, 03:03 PM Thanks for photos Pleth.Good luck in Dubai,great now you are on site look forward to more photos if you get time.Is it really full steam ahead or is this just a spurt.
Took more today from the bridge :) It is Friday so no one working.
It is not just a spurt, it is full steam ahead because Steve still believes he can finish the Atlantic in 12 months time. But he says the take-over can take 3 months with water and power etc.
Trying to rent an apartment here in the Marina, and I must say there are some interesting ones around...
plotman January 9th, 2009, 03:13 PM It will be interesting to hear where you end up (which building),I still think you will struggle to find better than the Atlantic.Roll on completion!
Pleth January 9th, 2009, 03:44 PM Well, today I went to see the Time Place, and I must say I have never seen such a beautiful building!!! It is stunning, landscaped garden, big corridors with white leather chairs.....
Only problem is that the pool is indoor, but I guess some people would like that.
diveksa January 9th, 2009, 10:12 PM Took more today from the bridge :) It is Friday so no one working.
Pleth would you please send me the new photos so I can post for you?
Pleth January 9th, 2009, 11:20 PM Pleth would you please send me the new photos so I can post for you?
I did at 16.34 hours Dubai time :)
diveksa January 9th, 2009, 11:53 PM I did at 16.34 hours Dubai time :)
Thank I got them but it seems ImageShack is not working today I will try to up load them later on. Please take a look at GSPM blog. He posted new update: http://atlantictower-dubai.blogspot.com/
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plotman January 10th, 2009, 11:05 AM YES Said GSPM I will work harder and faster on the tower for you PLETHhttp://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9054/280ih3crl6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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Pleth January 10th, 2009, 10:10 PM YES Said GSPM I will work harder and faster on the tower for you PLETHhttp://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9054/280ih3crl6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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Hilarious :cheer::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::cheer:
GSProjectManager January 11th, 2009, 10:47 AM :nono::nono: Steve, you promised not to tell the insider information!!
Okay Diversa, I will send them by e-mail. :)
shame on me:bash: and Plotman based on these drawings wouldn't you agree as well?
diveksa January 13th, 2009, 01:32 AM They are not working at night yet?
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Large version (5272x1900): http://www.quetschluft.de/dubai/skyline4_q.jpg
diveksa January 13th, 2009, 01:44 AM ^^
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Thank you Desert Diver for the panorama pict.
Sheltie January 14th, 2009, 10:55 AM Is the first floor rising yet? it would need to for completion to be in 12 months.
diveksa January 19th, 2009, 04:53 AM :lol: 12 months :hilarious
par4 January 19th, 2009, 12:52 PM It has taken 6 months to do the basement level,i find it hard to believe that they will manage another 18 levels in 12 months.Silverene started piling 6 months after the Atlantic and it wiill soon have overtaken us if it hasn't already done so.
Sheltie January 19th, 2009, 03:47 PM Pleth spoke to Steve after New Year and he said he still believes it can complete in 12 months (I also have my doubts).
GSPM can you give us an update and a time schedule which we can follow.
charlie big potatoes January 20th, 2009, 10:01 PM Hi Diveska please check your email I sent you some Atlantic pics.
diveksa January 21st, 2009, 04:55 AM Jan 17
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Thank you charlie big potatoes
par4 January 21st, 2009, 10:39 AM Great photos,but where are the workforce?:cry:
GSProjectManager January 21st, 2009, 11:09 AM i received the building schedule, key handover date March 2010, structure will be completed end 2009, i will send you the complete schedule as soon as i checked it to compare real time with estimated dates.
GSProjectManager January 21st, 2009, 11:12 AM Great photos,but where are the workforce?:cry:
i placed some photos showing the labor(on the blog)it must have been lunch time as two of the photos shows labor activity, or was it the day we received rain?
charlie big potatoes January 21st, 2009, 11:23 AM ^^^^Top 2 pics Sunday the rest Friday
diveksa January 21st, 2009, 12:04 PM ^^^^Top 2 pics Sunday the rest Friday
Thanks for the update. Keep them coming :)
diveksa January 21st, 2009, 12:16 PM i received the building schedule, key handover date March 2010, structure will be completed end 2009, i will send you the complete schedule as soon as i checked it to compare real time with estimated dates.
Thank GSPM for the update.
I will wait for your email (building schedule, the floors drawing . . . )
par4 January 21st, 2009, 12:48 PM i received the building schedule, key handover date March 2010, structure will be completed end 2009, i will send you the complete schedule as soon as i checked it to compare real time with estimated dates.
Call me an old sceptic,but at the current rate that just doesn't seem possible,but hey,feel free to prove me wrong.
par4 January 21st, 2009, 03:32 PM My apologies GSPM those photos were taken on friday and i see from the blog that the workforce is pretty strong.
Pleth January 22nd, 2009, 09:27 AM It has taken 6 months to do the basement level,i find it hard to believe that they will manage another 18 levels in 12 months.Silverene started piling 6 months after the Atlantic and it wiill soon have overtaken us if it hasn't already done so.
I have confidence in completion time Jan. 2010 and connection of DEWA will take 3 months, so ready to move in April next year.
Steve told me that every flor is identical and therefore they can do the stories very fast.
I am now situated in Dorra Bay, so I can take photos now and again :)
By the way did I tell you I enjoy my morning coffee in 24 degrees - sunshine here on my balcony? Life is good!
diveksa January 23rd, 2009, 12:29 AM Good news from GSPM Blog dated Jan. 22:
Ground floor slab ready for concrete, we will cast this weekend
:banana:
Thank GSPM for the update.
True Blue January 23rd, 2009, 12:41 AM About time, I was beginning to think there was a contractor worse than DCE in the marina.
GSProjectManager January 26th, 2009, 02:03 PM hi all there seem to be a problem with the concrete delivery they phoned today and guaranteed the concrete delivery for thuesday night starting from 8pm, i will take photos and update you on the progress then
FWIW January 26th, 2009, 02:29 PM ^^thuesday - is that Tuesday or Thursday?
True Blue January 26th, 2009, 10:42 PM I suppose that with payments linked to progress there will be a few cash strapped investors breathing a sigh of relief at the extra delays.
Then there are the owners who have no money worries shouting at the forum "Get a freakin move on before I die of old age:bash:"
You need to get the finger out mister GSPM or Bay Central is going to catch up. I'm sure even DCE can do better than 2 floors a year :D
Imre January 27th, 2009, 05:30 AM they have a big competition with the Wind Towers but now the Wind overtook the Atlantic:)
GSProjectManager January 27th, 2009, 09:22 AM It will be tuesday, today to be exact, we will start casting at 20H30 Local time, and True Blue External forces is out of my control now that i have to consentrate on the internal forces only, can i produce! and oh ye my finger is out, i will prevail watch and see!:cheers:
diveksa January 27th, 2009, 02:30 PM People are going to judge me not by my words but by my actions and my administration's actions.
President Barack Obama
GSProjectManager January 27th, 2009, 08:24 PM it's now 22H00 and the concrete is falling, what a beautiful sound, when i hear vibrators working, in my job that is what we call heavenly music, when i was a contractor it was the sound of money! now it's the sound that will get me to rest a little bit better, good night everybody!:)
True Blue January 27th, 2009, 08:33 PM Make sure the lads take care of the curing process and keep it covered and damp. Good time of year to be getting on with the concrete :okay:
plotman January 27th, 2009, 10:35 PM it's now 22H00 and the concrete is falling, what a beautiful sound, when i hear vibrators working, in my job that is what we call heavenly music, when i was a contractor it was the sound of money! now it's the sound that will get me to rest a little bit better, good night everybody!:)
Well Done GS NOW lets see to finish this year,we need another floor every THREE weeks!!
FWIW January 28th, 2009, 01:33 AM Well done GSPM :applause:
GSProjectManager January 29th, 2009, 12:49 PM their is photos on the blog
Sheltie January 29th, 2009, 02:10 PM Thanks,GSPM, good photos, my 1st floor one bed apartment will be up soon.
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Good to be looking down on Bay Central.
par4 January 30th, 2009, 10:51 AM Good stuff GSPM :banana:
diveksa January 31st, 2009, 10:33 AM GSPM :applause: We need more heavenly music ASAP :lol:
When are we going to see the next floor slab?
Plotman: I think all units have a good view.:)
I think floor every THREE weeks is a very slow for a small building like the Atlantic?
plotman January 31st, 2009, 10:57 AM Quite right Diveksa a floor every three weeks would be far to slow,one every three days would be about right for this project,but bear in mind this tower has been moving up at a snails pace,my three weeks comes from GSPM saying he wants to top out by the end of the year, ie 52 divided by 18 floors roughly one every 3 weeks so anything quicker than that and we know we are on our way.
With regard to views I have all ways maintained the location is second to none and with the mall now finished a great place to be next to.
diveksa February 2nd, 2009, 09:06 AM I think this will be part of your view at the Atlantic :nuts:
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Thank you Desert Diver
diveksa February 2nd, 2009, 09:26 AM Construction cost in UAE declines by 30% (http://www.business24-7.ae/Articles/2009/2/Pages/02022009_8487eef1ad804b62b9b630020709fad7.aspx)
diveksa February 2nd, 2009, 09:29 AM :) New update by GSPM dated February 1 @ http://atlantictower-dubai.blogspot.com/
plotman February 2nd, 2009, 10:49 AM Am I right in thinking there is one more floor to cast before we see the start of the two bed appt,the main podium is two floors is it not?
par4 February 2nd, 2009, 12:20 PM I think the next slab poured will be the first floor of apartments:banana:
diveksa February 3rd, 2009, 07:24 PM http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7562/image002rj6.gif
par4 February 3rd, 2009, 07:43 PM Good job Diveksa:)
diveksa February 3rd, 2009, 10:02 PM What are these?
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True Blue February 4th, 2009, 12:24 AM Tensioning anchor points for the post stress tendons.
plotman February 4th, 2009, 12:54 AM YEA noisy little critters move around alot at night,glad there not in my flat.
GSProjectManager February 4th, 2009, 09:25 AM Tensioning anchor points for the post stress tendons.
True Blue, what are you doing, you should speak English to others not site mumble jumble, like this- these are the points of the tension cable that gets wind up(take a string and hold it on one side and turn the other side, you will see it twirls!), well inside the concrete we have cables running through the slab they are limited to space and their fore create pressure on the slab(when we twirl them), now what you are seeing is the ends that we grab and turn, to create the twirl. Hope this makes sense plotman
par4 February 4th, 2009, 10:11 AM Perfect sense:nuts:
GSProjectManager February 5th, 2009, 01:41 PM Perfect sense:nuts:
you see par4 too much info isn't good, its the ground floor and thats all that matters, don't you agree!:lol:
GSProjectManager February 5th, 2009, 01:48 PM Tensioning anchor points for the post stress tendons.
or maybe we should have mentioned that we run out of concrete, and left these holes for architectural designs, to enhance the beauty of the slab, what do you think would this create panic?, or do we go with the plain and simple concept "it's a slab, one step closer to completion":bash:
par4 February 5th, 2009, 03:20 PM Sounds good to me.
plotman February 5th, 2009, 09:33 PM Well ! GSPM finger is out then,supports going in for first floor.EXCELENThttp://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7158/img0267ir5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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diveksa February 5th, 2009, 10:23 PM GSPM I think you shifted to high gear.
When are we going to see the next floor slab?
plotman February 5th, 2009, 11:36 PM GSBM I think you shifted to high gear.
When are we going to see the next floor slab?
Who is this GSBM is it GSPM sidekick!
diveksa February 6th, 2009, 02:19 PM ^^:lol:
Typo
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Thank you Desert Diver
Sheltie February 7th, 2009, 11:21 AM Excellent picture, it's on the way up.
Sheltie February 8th, 2009, 07:52 PM New photos on the blog from Thursday.
cool golfer February 9th, 2009, 11:25 AM Any latest news on white goods?
plotman February 9th, 2009, 07:58 PM So GSPM is it next floor next week,to stay in the three week window.
True Blue February 9th, 2009, 10:07 PM ^^What! Are they going for another floor this year?
:dance:
I can't take all this excitement:lol:
plotman February 10th, 2009, 01:09 AM Now Now TB just because the Jewels has got the highest service charge in the marina!!
GSProjectManager February 10th, 2009, 09:04 AM So GSPM is it next floor next week,to stay in the three week window.
yes we are planning to cast the 16th of Feb 2009, first floor.^^
plotman February 10th, 2009, 12:40 PM Three cheers for GSPM,and may the Jewels become a home for pessimists.
diveksa February 10th, 2009, 08:42 PM yes we are planning to cast the 16th of Feb 2009, first floor.^^
:banana::carrot::pepper:
diveksa February 10th, 2009, 08:46 PM New update by GSPM dated February 9th @ http://atlantictower-dubai.blogspot.com/
plotman February 10th, 2009, 11:52 PM First floor ready to go.Thats a beer GShttp://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2229/img8820wd1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/img8820wd1.jpg/1/w400.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img518/img8820wd1.jpg/1/)
plotman February 10th, 2009, 11:55 PM Sheltie next week you should get a photo from you balcony.
True Blue February 11th, 2009, 01:29 AM Now Now TB just because the Jewels has got the highest service charge in the marina!!
I know, was 6AED now up to 7.2AED a 20% increase. Could have been worse like the 20+AED they are levying on Emaar and JBR apartments or am I just being a pessimist again:dunno:
Sheltie February 11th, 2009, 01:30 AM Excellent, looking forward to it. Good to see it moving at a good pace. Keep up the good work GSPM.
plotman February 11th, 2009, 03:22 AM Diveksa remember the chat re views from the two beds,well hows this for a view from the bedroom of the unit 4s.Monster foothttp://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9457/img8804cc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/img8804cc0.jpg/1/w1600.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img410/img8804cc0.jpg/1/)
plotman February 11th, 2009, 03:32 AM I know, was 6AED now up to 7.2AED a 20% increase. Could have been worse like the 20+AED they are levying on Emaar and JBR apartments or am I just being a pessimist again:dunno:
Tell me about it there trying to hit us at MVT for 21aed and that generously includes a tower manager on 950000aed/year.Maybe a job for you
diveksa February 11th, 2009, 09:23 AM Plotman
Please take a look at this Google Earth image it might help you estimate the right view for unit 4. Regarding the picture, I think GSPM was standing at the red circle when he took the picture.
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9386/unit4viewuy0.jpg
plotman February 11th, 2009, 11:57 AM Yes agreed, but draw the lines from the bedroom and through the window and you see the same foot.
Josau February 11th, 2009, 04:51 PM Tell me about it there trying to hit us at MVT for 21aed and that generously includes a tower manager on 950000aed/year.Maybe a job for you
^^Yeah, but that's with the chilled water. I guess the 7.2 AED is without that. But agree: MVT service charge far to high.
Now back to the Atlantic...
GSProjectManager February 12th, 2009, 07:26 AM Yes agreed, but draw the lines from the bedroom and through the window and you see the same foot.
PLotman if your on the balcony, you will see it or even standing at the window you will, but if your inside the unit that foot will not upset your vision. :cheers:
GSProjectManager February 12th, 2009, 07:28 AM Diveksa
yes the line is right and i was actualy just outside the plot, thanks :)
diveksa February 15th, 2009, 05:50 PM yes we are planning to cast the 16th of Feb 2009, first floor.^^
GSPM are we ready for the big day ?
We need live update :)
Sheltie February 17th, 2009, 11:07 AM Did the first floor get poured yesterday? Any pictures please.
Imre February 17th, 2009, 03:18 PM 17/February/2009
The Atlantic
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4429/imresolt131hk8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5120/imresolt142xs9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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par4 February 17th, 2009, 03:31 PM Need to get your zoom lens fitted Imre:okay:
diveksa February 17th, 2009, 04:33 PM :ohno: GSPM :mad2:
Sheltie February 17th, 2009, 04:38 PM Don't think first floor is poured!!!
diveksa February 17th, 2009, 11:41 PM I recommend a new clock for this project.
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9501/lifeclock1b31f2cnc6.jpg
Sheltie February 19th, 2009, 04:23 PM GSPM
Did the first floor get poured on Monday?
par4 February 20th, 2009, 12:43 PM GSPM
Did the first floor get poured on Monday?
Doesn't look like it which i am not really surprised about when you consider how long it took to prepare the last floor for pouring it would have been some sort of minor miracle if this one had been ready for pouring in 2 weeks.
Pleth February 20th, 2009, 01:06 PM I will go and take photos today.
Sheltie February 20th, 2009, 01:34 PM Thanks Pleth, you've been quiet I thought you were away. Will you have time to speak to Steven about completion date. Look forward to your photos.
diveksa February 20th, 2009, 03:20 PM I will go and take photos today.
:okay:
Pleth February 20th, 2009, 05:03 PM Today late afternoon:
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7502/cimg2913yg3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Pleth February 20th, 2009, 05:12 PM And before anybody gets truish bluish, please remember it is Friday, the workers will be back tomorrow. :poke:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2696/cimg2914kz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1102/cimg2915ot5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Le grande avenue leading down to the Atlantic!!! (Not Atlantis)
Pleth February 20th, 2009, 05:16 PM http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/223/cimg2916xh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Sheltie February 20th, 2009, 05:26 PM Thanks for the nice photos.
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 05:33 PM All pictures below taken 19.02.09
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 05:36 PM http://i44.tinypic.com/98u58z.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 05:37 PM http://i41.tinypic.com/i5dsu8.jpg
charlie big potatoes February 20th, 2009, 05:39 PM http://i40.tinypic.com/2u5c7xv.jpg
Sheltie February 20th, 2009, 05:40 PM More good pictures, thanks.
diveksa February 21st, 2009, 08:13 AM Thank you for the photo update:applause:
We are waiting for GSPM update?
True Blue February 21st, 2009, 01:58 PM Some concrete and steel reinforcement would be more useful.
Still looks about 1.5weeks away from a pour.
diveksa February 28th, 2009, 08:59 AM :hi: Any photo update from the Atlantic site?
Sheltie February 28th, 2009, 12:35 PM GSPM, can you also give us a realistic completion date.
diveksa March 2nd, 2009, 09:11 AM One month and still waiting for one floor!
At the end of the year do not expect to get more than 11 floors . :bash:
True Blue what do you think?
True Blue March 2nd, 2009, 11:44 PM Don't know of any reason why this has gone on a "go slow" again:dunno:
We need some feedback from GSPM or some pictures to confirm it is still moving forward.
par4 March 3rd, 2009, 02:49 PM I expect GSPM has probably reached the 3rd or 4th floor by now and is just too busy to tell us about it,and by the way i hear Scotland are favorites to win the next world cup:scouserd:
charlie big potatoes March 3rd, 2009, 10:33 PM Go and see the bay central post today you can see The Atlantic has gained a floor
Beppe786 March 3rd, 2009, 11:13 PM You can see it in the back ground
http://i42.tinypic.com/scxe1x.jpg
diveksa March 3rd, 2009, 11:50 PM ^^ It is not clear from the photo!
We need a close-up photo or GSPM update to confirm the new floor.
diveksa March 4th, 2009, 09:14 AM Construction in front of Marina Mall hotel:
http://www.quetschluft.de/dubai/300_2159_qa.jpg
http://www.quetschluft.de/dubai/300_2162_qa.jpg
http://www.quetschluft.de/dubai/300_2164_qa.jpg
Last night. Thank you Desert Diver for the update.
plotman March 4th, 2009, 12:20 PM A concrete pump or maybe two,good news.
diveksa March 5th, 2009, 09:47 PM http://i39.tinypic.com/10xdgg8.jpg
The handover date for the Atlantic 2012!?
Source: post #1405 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=33190346#post33190346)at DUBAI MARINA PLOT MAP
Author: High Times
par4 March 6th, 2009, 12:58 PM I dont think you can compare a 20 floor tower to a 101 floor tower and expect them to be finished at the same time,although nothing would surprise me with the Atlantic,but quite frankly i think that chart is bull----.
Sheltie March 6th, 2009, 02:07 PM GSPM
Haven't heard a peep from you for 3 weeks. Let's have an update or some photos. He's either on holiday or too busy trying to complete this year to write anything.
A realistic completion date would be good!!!
Pleth March 6th, 2009, 03:25 PM Today Friday.
Taken from Bay Central:
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5242/cimg2959.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cimg2959.jpg)
Taken from the car (sorry folks I can't really park on the bridge...):
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6421/cimg2962.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cimg2962.jpg)
Don't forget nobody is working on Fridays, and tomorrow is a national holiday.
diveksa March 6th, 2009, 04:33 PM The night photos by Desert Diver: Pumping concrete for the stairway.
Pleth update: I think they are ready for the first floor and waiting for the concrete.
diveksa March 7th, 2009, 05:56 PM Taken on March 7, 2009
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8104/33344744090066f3ef43o4a.jpg
Thank you Imre for the update.
Pleth March 7th, 2009, 08:12 PM Are they working at night now?
True Blue March 7th, 2009, 09:07 PM The night photos by Desert Diver: Pumping concrete for the stairway.
Pleth update: I think they are ready for the first floor and waiting for the concrete.
I think the floor is poured, they have already started fixing the rebar for the next level and some shutters (formwork panels) are being erected. You would not be doing this unless the floor was poured and you had something to work off.
Imre March 8th, 2009, 03:35 PM 08/March/2009
The Atlantic
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http://i43.tinypic.com/xktxl0.jpg
diveksa March 8th, 2009, 04:23 PM ^^:applause:
Sheltie March 8th, 2009, 05:04 PM Thanks for the photos Imre.
plotman March 9th, 2009, 03:12 PM YES Big thanks Imre. GS where are you,whats the time frame now.
Desert Diver March 12th, 2009, 10:51 PM Today:
http://www.quetschluft.de/dubai/300_2724_qa.jpg
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