Needs a big push after Ramadan.

I know the feeling. I put it down to the irregular eating patterns.

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Nice perspective.

Looks like the whole area around Atlantic is moving now and could be just about finished in a couple of years.

Fantastic photos,thanks c.b.p.

08/September/2009

The Atlantic

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18/September/2009

The Atlantic

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Progress has been very slow here but I did notice that they were working on Friday morning and some still working at night.

Wth the market going slow and this one on a payment plan linked to progress, I don't suppose owners are too upset, may even be a god send for some.

Slightly different view than Imre's, this time with some greenery and landscaping at the base of the mall;

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Have you all received the newsletter saying that the delay was due to the contractor not getting the money from the escrow account. It has now been released so it says it will move faster again.
They also say we will see the bathrooms and kitchens in the next newsletter. Hopefully it will be nice.
GSPM, still haven't heard from the new guy.

26.09.2009.
My camera is not as good as Imres :)
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Look they are cleaning the road in front of the Atlantic. Typical Dubai, the cleanest city in the world... :lol:

Today
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Lots of people working on the site today. However they are inside, so you cannot see them.

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Excellent pictures, thanks. You didn't get to see the new guy who is in charge, did you? Get your heels and lippy on to get some info, it worked with Stephen. He's a miss for keeping us informed.

Ha ha Sheltie, yes I will try that next time...

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Any signs of the 10th floor?

03/October/2009

The Atlantic

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Thanks Imre for graet photos. It seems to be on the move again.

Does anyone know if the balcony's on the units in the latest photos are bigger than originally planned,because they are definately bigger than the plan i have.

Please refer to the following articles, I have cut out excerpts below;
1. Prices for Marina apartments could be stabilized at 1,100 to 1,500
2. The marina may get some boost in prices from the Metro effect

Not being in Dubai but in the west of Ireland I am interested to know how real are the articles especially in relation to the Atlantic development.
It's location, build design and quality (hopefully) look excellent and I would really hope that it is not all doom and gloom and the Atlantic will turn out to be an excellent development.
As an investor I really hope so because for the last 11 months all has looked and sounded very very grim and I hope this is not the case!!!

Also have all paid the fourth installment by now?

Thanks for your time and I look forward to the feedback.

http://www.ameinfo.com/205848.html
Apartment inventory

"In the apartment segment there is a very wide variety of options in the market, with a lot of additional inventory being made available over the course of the next 12 to 24 months.

The key driver for prices for apartments will be quality of construction and location. Good quality projects in the Dubai Marina, Burj Dubai and Palm Jumeirah, with good views, are stabilized at around Dhs1,100 to Dhs1,500 per sq. ft.

Projects with lower quality construction and locations range from Dhs650 - Dhs800 per sq. ft. We expect prices of lower quality buildings to stay in the current range as more inventory comes onto the market, however, in the higher quality segment, we expect some price increases of around 5% over the next six months. Burj Dubai will most likely experience the most increase as the community gets completed and the Burj itself is delivered."

http://www.ameinfo.com/201683.html
Metro effect
"Investment Boutique has also analysed the potential effect on unit prices of the imminent roll out of Dubai's Metro project, which is scheduled to launch on September 9 this year.

Having studied the effects on prices of similar transport infrastructure projects in the Netherlands, Greece, India and France - all of which have come online in the last two decades - IB notes that all have had a positive impact on developments within close proximity.

Dutch properties saw an average increase of 25% (topping at 33% for proximity to high frequency stations), residential properties in Greece that were within 250m of a station saw an average increase of 8%, properties in Delhi rose by an average of 10% to 35% (with some districts seeing increases of up to 80%), and new tram lines in a western Parisian district pushed prices up by 5%.

IB notes that communities that are on the Red Line, which will run across Dubai, have historically seen rises in line with major announcements regarding the Metro's progression, and expects these to see similar stabilization/rises once the service is launched.

Two areas in particular that are singled out as potentially benefiting are the Marina, which has managed to so far hold most of its value partially through increased tenant traffic from Abu Dhabi workers and the amenities on offer, and Downtown (Business Bay, Downtown Burj Dubai, DIFC and the Trade Centre), which has suffered some of the sharpest price drops since mid-2008.

These, and areas with good service from the Metro, are expected to benefit post-September (which will also see the opening of Emaar's flagship Burj Dubai tower), although potentially at the expense of increased supply coming online in more outlying districts such as Discovery Gardens or the International Media Production Zone (IMPZ)."

16/October/2009

The Atlantic

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Hi all,

Since I am not in Dubai, but in the West of Ireland, I would really apprecaite any feedback in relation to the points as raised below. How is the Marina and specifically the Atlantic and will the Metro help. Has the market stabilised? For me the design, build and location of the Atlantic present an excellent investment - this has hopefully improved than it was 12 months ago where doom and gloom reigned.

Thanks a lot.

http://www.ameinfo.com/205848.html
Apartment inventory

In the apartment segment there is a very wide variety of options in the market, with a lot of additional inventory being made available over the course of the next 12 to 24 months.

The key driver for prices for apartments will be quality of construction and location. Good quality projects in the Dubai Marina, Burj Dubai and Palm Jumeirah, with good views, are stabilized at around Dhs1,100 to Dhs1,500 per sq. ft.

Projects with lower quality construction and locations range from Dhs650 - Dhs800 per sq. ft. We expect prices of lower quality buildings to stay in the current range as more inventory comes onto the market, however, in the higher quality segment, we expect some price increases of around 5% over the next six months. Burj Dubai will most likely experience the most increase as the community gets completed and the Burj itself is delivered.

http://www.ameinfo.com/201683.html
Metro effect
Investment Boutique has also analysed the potential effect on unit prices of the imminent roll out of Dubai's Metro project, which is scheduled to launch on September 9 this year.

Having studied the effects on prices of similar transport infrastructure projects in the Netherlands, Greece, India and France - all of which have come online in the last two decades - IB notes that all have had a positive impact on developments within close proximity.

Dutch properties saw an average increase of 25% (topping at 33% for proximity to high frequency stations), residential properties in Greece that were within 250m of a station saw an average increase of 8%, properties in Delhi rose by an average of 10% to 35% (with some districts seeing increases of up to 80%), and new tram lines in a western Parisian district pushed prices up by 5%.

IB notes that communities that are on the Red Line, which will run across Dubai, have historically seen rises in line with major announcements regarding the Metro's progression, and expects these to see similar stabilization/rises once the service is launched.

Two areas in particular that are singled out as potentially benefiting are the Marina, which has managed to so far hold most of its value partially through increased tenant traffic from Abu Dhabi workers and the amenities on offer, and Downtown (Business Bay, Downtown Burj Dubai, DIFC and the Trade Centre), which has suffered some of the sharpest price drops since mid-2008.

These, and areas with good service from the Metro, are expected to benefit post-September (which will also see the opening of Emaar's flagship Burj Dubai tower), although potentially at the expense of increased supply coming online in more outlying districts such as Discovery Gardens or the International Media Production Zone (IMPZ).

Floor pour underway 19th Oct evening;

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Thanks TB Seems to be going OK

Nice one compliments of Charlie Big Potatoes;

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Sorry wrong thread

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Thanks for all the photos,much appreciated.

Great photos CBP, it's looking good.

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Marina view for unit 4

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Marina view for unit 1

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Marina view for unit 2

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Marina view for unit 3

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Sorry for the incorrect date.

Great photos,are you the new project manager or an investor and if so did they allow you access without any trouble?Do you have any photos from inside the apartments?

Super photos, thanks a lot and great to see the Atlantic developing.
It seems to be an excellent location backed up with a great design. Pity about all the delays but it seems as if things are progressing and the market around the Marina is reasonable, here's hoping progress continueswith the build.

Hi all.......

At last the Atlantic is rising......slowly but upwards....some great pictures from CBP, Imre and and TB.

having visited Dubai recently and gone down to the site i can reaffirm what a great location this little beauty is in......and although the posted photographs are excellent and provide much needed information on progress there is nothing like a visit.....to see first hand..... site progress and admire the views and the adjacent facilities surrounding the Atlantic......and to help satisfy the, sometimes agonizing, descision to have purchased a unit in the Atlantic.


My main worry is the speed of progress.....and what date will it be complete???? my PSA states Dec 2009.....sorry but obviously no chance.......the length of time this project has been under construction must in my opinion eat into the overall construction budget and i feel this may impact on final finishing specifications something Stephan(ex PM) alluded to when i meet with him a long time ago ......

Par 4 asked about the balconies....and yes ... the balconies to the unit 04 has definitely increased in size over the sales brochure outline plans.

Now that we are past the tenth floor slab has anyone received the Escrow Account details from Gulf Shores ?????.

I have received information but am slightly confused as to how to make my payment to them from the uk using AED .

If any of you guys have made payment to the escrow account using your unique reference number and can give me some help please pm me with your experience or pm me if you want to have a private general discussions regarding the Atlantic without every word being disected analyzed or interpreted .

^^I am sorry i cant help with the payment situation as my payment structure means i have already paid 55% before the escrow thing was started and my next payment is on completion,whenever that may be.
I agree with you that as this development is probably going to end up around 2.5 years late as december 2007 was the original date and how it is finished is obviously a major concern.It is a fantastic design in a suberb location,it would be a real shame if the finishings were cheap & nasty.I can just about handle not getting the nice telly etc.that we were promised but if the quality of the finishing materials is not good i will not be happy so fingers crossed.

I am in the west of Ireland and an early frustrated investor, how accurate are the artciles below, appreciate any feedback, many thanks
Excerpt of AME article:In the apartment segment there is a very wide variety of options in the market, with a lot of additional inventory being made available over the course of the next 12 to 24 months.

The key driver for prices for apartments will be quality of construction and location. Good quality projects in the Dubai Marina, Burj Dubai and Palm Jumeirah, with good views, are stabilized at around Dhs1,100 to Dhs1,500 per sq. ft.

Projects with lower quality construction and locations range from Dhs650 - Dhs800 per sq. ft. We expect prices of lower quality buildings to stay in the current range as more inventory comes onto the market, however, in the higher quality segment, we expect some price increases of around 5% over the next six months. Burj Dubai will most likely experience the most increase as the community gets completed and the Burj itself is delivered.
Metro Article:
IB notes that communities that are on the Red Line, which will run across Dubai, have historically seen rises in line with major announcements regarding the Metro's progression, and expects these to see similar stabilization/rises once the service is launched.

Two areas in particular that are singled out as potentially benefiting are the Marina, which has managed to so far hold most of its value partially through increased tenant traffic from Abu Dhabi workers and the amenities on offer, and Downtown (Business Bay, Downtown Burj Dubai, DIFC and the Trade Centre), which has suffered some of the sharpest price drops since mid-2008.

I wonder if mid 2010 is actually being optomistic as only one floor has been added in the last month.

^^ Mid 2010 that would be nice..........but is optimistic.....hope i am wrong..... there is still an awful lot of work to be done to this structure.....so it is too early to predict any sort of realistic completion date .......lets hope Gulf shores start to accelerate to catch up on lost time....fingers crossed

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Looking forward to seeing this movie,can anyone help out?

Dorra Boy, did you happen to speak to the new project manager when you were out there. Stephen said the new person would keep us updated on here but hasn't so far. Stephen are yoy stll reading this. If so have you been near the site lately. We do miss your updates.

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Dorra Boy, did you happen to speak to the new project manager when you were out there. Stephen said the new person would keep us updated on here but hasn't so far.


Sorry Sheltie.......was not on the construction site ........l just loitered at the marina walkway observing the site:)..........so didnt get to chat with the new PM........my guess is he is posting on this forum...........yeah????

Dont know when you were last on location ... but this is a fantastic spot with magnificent views from the apartments and so close to the superb Address Hotel with its Five star quality facilities (and unfortunately prices) and off course the Marina Mall..........and yacht club ....which i beleive is the new place to be of an evening............cant wait to move in......hope to see you there soon

Fantastic location and views.

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Great photos,are you the new project manager or an investor and if so did they allow you access without any trouble?Do you have any photos from inside the apartments?
- Are you the new project manager or an investor? Investor
- Did they allow you access without any trouble? Yes
- Do you have any photos from inside the apartments? Already posted all photos at this forum

Thanks for that and thankyou for posting your photos & videos.

Thanks to DirtyHarry;

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New pilons in the water so some boat pontoons should be arriving soon. Then some boats hopefully.

What a great photo. It looks like they're on floor 12 now, can anyone confirm this.

What a great photo. It looks like they're on floor 12 now, can anyone confirm this.

12th floor of apartments is there,just 5 floors to go.No reason why it should'nt be topped out by the middle of february but going by progress so far,this probably wont happen:ohno:

Been quiet on here. Anyone got any updates or pictures?

Everything is pretty boring at the moment while we can only see a new floor going up every few weeks,things should hopefully liven up when the glazing starts and we start to see some finishings.I dont know why most other towers start putting in glass from the bottom up but the Atlantic doesn't seem to be.

26/November/2009

The Atlantic

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Well spotted:lol:

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Holiday weekend! Atlantic quiet, Silverene quiet, Infinity quiet, Bay Central and Torch DEAD! :laugh:

Thanks Imre for the photos. It's getting there slowly but surely.

Any news. Is work still going on in light of all the bad news from Dubai?

Any news. Is work still going on in light of all the bad news from Dubai?

You should have been down JBR walk last night
--bad news /recession -youre having a laugh
--it was packed out and i mean PACKED out (Aand that was at 1am -
-what i would give to walk to walk down my capital city at this time and not risk getting mugged
-brilliant artmosphere NOT A HINT of hooliganism !
-- think the Marina has good future for those who can wait IMHO

Any pictures MANUTD.:banana:

People here in Britain are loving being able to say "what about Dubai?" But my answer is that we're in it for the long term so we can sit it out. As long as we don't need to sell now we'll be all right. Still think we can't lose by buying in the Marina.
My other investment in Dubai has gone tits up and am fighting to get money back though.

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Thanks CBP, great photo.

Expected Completion Date - Late 2007 <--------------
Real Estate Developer - Oryx Apartments
Location - Dubai, United Arab Emirates


LOL

yes, maybe in 2012 with this progress .

04/December/2009

Atlantic

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Thanks, great photos as always. It's getting there and will be fantastic when finished.

Very quiet all round, I hope this not reflect progress on the site!! Any update would be appreciated, thanks.

They are working well on this. I see it every day, the crane is working all the time, and they have reached 13th floor.
Got an update letter from the developer today, if anybody did not get this, please pm me and I will send a copy out.

Good that work is progressing, great.
Yes I got the 5th Newsletter, for me completion date "in the first half of 2010" is very vague and also the spec has dropped but I am not sure there is a not a lot can be done about the change in spec - please see old marketing material below.

"Each apartment is Internet and cable ready, with a 42" plasma television and high definition home theatre system for a movie pre-installed. In the kitchen, pre-installed and integrated appliances include multi-programme washing machine, American-specification fridge, microwave, dishwasher and large, modern cooker. No messy wires, just clean open space, ready as soon as you move in.

Every apartment has a sumptuous master bathroom. With marble counters and basins, granite floorings, adjustable lighting vanity mirrors and powerful shower fittings. Guest bathrooms use the same materials"

Are prices still holding between 1100 to 1500 per sq foot for completed units in the Marina, given the superb location and design will the Atlantic fit in this range?

Thanks for any feedback.

I don't see any chance of this being finished before end 2010. 13 floors in 2 years is hardly motoring. More likely to be Q1 2011 going by the progress to date.

Expected top out end March 2010.
Expected glazing/cladding Start Feb 2010 - Finish Oct 2010 (1/2 floor/week up to top of 1 bed block then floor per week)
Bathrooms and kitchens fitout April 2010 - November 2010 (2 squads fitting 2 aps/week each)

It will be worth the wait in terms of the available views and the fact that if this building was complete now, owners could have had problems renting with the works going on round about.

I agree,mid 2010 would seem impossible at their current snails pace.If it did turn out not to be completed till 2011 then that would be over 3 years late added to the fact that we may not get what the original sales literature promised,it certainly makes buying off plan a mugs game.Is three years late a record for the marina or is there something even slower?

Loads, KPM tower for one and now they are redesigning it probably a lot cheaper spec.

Atleast this is moving and won't be blocked by other towers.

The Atlantic From The Address Dubai Marina Residence



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27.12.2009. Taken at 5.30 pm therefore it is a little blur/dark.
The construction workers left at 6.00 pm.
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Can anybody get these films to work? I would love to see them.

I got the first one to work but not the other two.Dont know why.

08/January/2010

Atlantic

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Progressing at about a floor every month now.

Looks like Kaveri are just trying to keep themselves in a job for as long as possible now that no one is standing over them with a whip.

We need Stephen back!

Unfortunately I'm not out there but is anyone there who can try to speak to someone in charge to find out why it's taking so long?

Progressing at about a floor every month now.

Looks like Kaveri are just trying to keep themselves in a job for as long as possible now that no one is standing over them with a whip.

T.B. does it seem strange to you that there is no glazing or cladding going on in the lower floors right now or do some construction companies like to finish the structure before any of this is started.I would have thought that as this project has a payment plan where most investors will only have paid around 50% before completion,the developer would be pulling out all the stops to get it finished and get there money in.

Balancing the progress rates of the different activities is a site management function. If the cladding contractor expects a progress rate of 5 floors per month and the structure is only progressing at 1 floor per month then there is a danger of the cladding contractor quickly running out of work. He could then submit a claim for delay and extra cost for the lack of available work.

I agree that as payment is linked to progress the developer wants to get going to limit his time related costs. They may have boobed by not including timescales and penalties in Kaveri's contract or Kaveri may not have been willing to sign them:dunno:

Not sure now where the 2 beds stop, is it 15th level, if so we might go in to the 3 beds with a change of floor plate.

Is the Atlantic still progressing? Very little activity on the site, I hope this is not representative of construction progress. Any update would be really appreciated. Many thanks.

Yes it is still progressing.
The other night I walked passed on Marina Walk, they actually worked inside, and it was 8.30 pm. Not many people I think, but hammering noice and light from the inside.

^^This is,of course,the whole problem here,its not that there is no work going on,its just that there are very few people to do the work.Unless more staff are brought in then there is no way it can be finished this year.

Hi all

i miss the Atlantic project and Dubai, and it really is going slow up there:fiddle:, thought i would see the completed project by now:ohno::wtf::bash:, well that’s life, just hope that this one finish and meet all you investors expectation, the way it was intended to. I have only one comment if one can't face the problem, how do you solve it. The biggest problem out there is the shortage of backbones:dunno: and when you have it they don't want it "cultural differences" bummer. Good luck to you all and i miss the comments, the anger:mad2:, the understanding:okay:, gossip: and most of all the friends i made in my brief time with this project:cheers:

29/January/2010

The Atlantic

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Now seems to be less than one floor a month:ohno:Nice to near from you again Stephan,just wish you were still there to let us know why it is so bloody slow.

Yes, Stephen, we all miss you. This is really slow now. Wish I was out there. Is anyone there who could try to speak to someone on the site?

If you go to the first post it looks like they are on the last accommodation floor. Is the 14th floor the last one?

Sheltie

The Atlantic is a P+G+17
The last units will be at the 17th floor then the roof (GYM and Swimming pool).
Below is the Roof Drawing.

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^^Where did you come across these plans,i have always wondered what the pool deck etc. would be like.

Hi all

i miss the Atlantic project and Dubai, and it really is going slow up there:fiddle:, thought i would see the completed project by now:ohno::wtf::bash:, well that’s life, just hope that this one finish and meet all you investors expectation, the way it was intended to. I have only one comment if one can't face the problem, how do you solve it. The biggest problem out there is the shortage of backbones:dunno: and when you have it they don't want it "cultural differences" bummer. Good luck to you all and i miss the comments, the anger:mad2:, the understanding:okay:, gossip: and most of all the friends i made in my brief time with this project:cheers:

I wish you all the best Stephen - even though I am not invested in this project I always read your posts and admired the enthusiastic way you handled the investors questions, etc. Just wish there was someone like you on the Bay Central project.

Real shame you are not in Dubai doing work you obviously enjoy.

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Very quiet on here. Anyone got recent pictures?

New marina in front of the Mall is progressing nicely as shown in the pic below. Apartments facing the West will have classic marina views:)

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Hardly any work on this project for weeks now - only a few workers caring for the site so perhaps should be moved to on hold?

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Seems to be the concrete work that has slowed to an almost standstill. The block work has now caught up and is virtualy done as far as it can go due to the slow progress above.

There is evidence of work since Imre's pics of 2 weeks ago so will need to monitor the situation. Any news from the developer anyone?

Thanks for the photo. It is very slow but I can see a bit of difference from 2 weeks ago. More brickwork. I wonder if there's more happening inside the building.

How many workers they have total?

Maybe around 30-50?

Our posts have overlapped. Hopefully it picks up speed. You'de think they would want this finished as most people still have to pay 40 - 50 % to them on completion.

How many workers they have total?

Maybe around 30-50?

I'd be surprised if it was that many - walking past over the last few weeks I've never seen more than half a dozen.

Our posts have overlapped. Hopefully it picks up speed. You'de think they would want this finished as most people still have to pay 40 - 50 % to them on completion.

Big problem in Dubai now is credit worthyness. No one trusts anyone anymore so contractors want bonds and upfront payments before they start working on orders for cladding glazing kitchens etc.

Could be that Gulf shores can't get the funding from banks to cover the advance payments or bonds. Just speculation but based or real situations I am learning about in Dubai.

Once upon a time contractors were desperate to work for Emaar and Nakheel, RTA etc. But these companies have no credit worthiness anymore. This situation is spreading through the entire sector through a complete lack of trust for anyone.

Big problem in Dubai now is credit worthyness. No one trusts anyone anymore so contractors want bonds and upfront payments before they start working on orders for cladding glazing kitchens etc.

Once upon a time contractors were desperate to work for Emaar and Nakheel, RTA etc. But these companies have no credit worthiness anymore. This situation is spreading through the entire sector through a complete lack of trust for anyone.
VERY TRUE. ^^

Our posts have overlapped. Hopefully it picks up speed. You'de think they would want this finished as most people still have to pay 40 - 50 % to them on completion.

They have already invested lots of money in the project , no point to leave now, if they would do the piling now I would say its risky but at this stage is the risk is less.

I am sure it will be done just the time is the question.

I agree with True Blue, getting loan is very difficult now and probably this is the main reason why they have just few workers.

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Sexy becuase of the curves and the views

^^ I agree it will be a lovely building when finished,how many workers were there when you were last at the site?

Last time I was on site Oct. 2009!! and they had a good number of works on site at that time (40+)

This never changes. How many presidents of the US have there been since this was launched? You must be really bored here now. Do they have and reasonable excuses why this is so slow?
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This never changes. How many presidents of the US have there been since this was launched? You must be really bored here now. Do they have and reasonable excuses why this is so slow?


The answer lies in your pictures, they only have around 25 labour on site now.

Nice Pictures charlie big potatoes. Thank you.

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There are so many workers they must be tripping over each other in there.:nuts:The other half of the workforce are just arriving in that boat.

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11 workers only? Good for a soccer team:)

^^They don't have time for soccer, another load of rebar has just arrived and need unloading and fixing:)

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Advlive, thanks for the pictures. This must be a record for the longest time to do a floor. I tried e mailing 2 weeks ago to ask what the hold up was but had no reply.

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The RED line indicate a wrong rendering ( Extra floor). This is a 6 floors only.
I think the WHITE line indicate the current constriction floor (15th floor).

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Thanks for the photo. Do you live in the Dubai mall apartments? I don't know if that's what they're called.
I see there's enough for 2 football teams now!!

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Hallelujah! Another floor done:)

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Pleth,do you know if there is any finishing work going on in the one bedroom side.

Pleth, did you manage to speak to anyone in charge or did you see many workers?

Hi,
It was impossible to see how many people worked inside or what they were doing.
The crane was working all the time, and the site seemed very busy.
I will try and get inside one day I get the time...

Hi,
It was impossible to see how many people worked inside or what they were doing.
The crane was working all the time, and the site seemed very busy.
I will try and get inside one day I get the time...

Thanks. that'll be great.

True blue, if you're reading this any idea what might be going on behind the green netting? Is it some kind of plastering?

^^ It could be or maybe some sort of spray applied finish.

If they are spraying the outside walls that would explain why the windows are not in yet or am I completely wrong.

very good location , going to have a great view when finished in 1 to 1.5 years

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Great pictures, thanks. We're getting there.

The 15th floor of apartments took a ridiculous length of time to complete,but it looks like they might be pushing on with this one a bit quicker,fingers crossed.

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Any updates on where progress is on this? I've been considering buying here (if anyone is selling) but there seems to be a lot of bad news around the progress of the project so far.

Are Oryx still in business? I tried to call the numbers on their web site but they all seem to be disconnected.

^^Progress has been slow but consistent over the past 2 years. I don't expect it will be completed until sometime next year.

Problem appears to be money related. Developer sold low with a payment plan linked to progress. There is a large chunk payable on completion so the developer needs to finance the build until this money is paid back by the investors. We can only assume that obtaining this finance is not as easy as they first thought. I also found out that they had trouble with setting up the escrow and once this was done and the money transferred they then could not get access to the funds.

Latest problem looks like the lack of any follow on trades, glazing/cladding etc which could be down to finance again and lack of credit in the region. I'm sure Gulf Shores are working on all the problems but there will be no quick fix as I see it.

Without a doubt one of the best plots in the marina and had tried to buy here myself but the prices started overheating just at that time. Low floors will have amazing water views right up and down the marina with the yachts all sailng past almost in touching distance. Real marina living:)

Just a thought - They could ask investors to pay another percentage of the total cost and in return would get a lump sum (maybe the amount they would pay in interest) off the final payment.
They wouldn't lose out and we would get our apartments quicker.

^^Most developers are switching on to this concept. Nakheel offered a 10% discount on the money you paid before it was due and Cayan were giving away free storage units and priority choice of parking space if you pre paid your final payment instalment.

hello everyone

i hope all is still doing okay, glad to see she is still going up, she is an amazing structure isn't she, i hold thumbs up for you all,

Hey, Stephen, great to hear from you. It's going up slowly. We all wish you were still there to keep us informed on the progress.
Will be great when finished though.

Hi GS Hope you are well,are you still building.

Not been on for a while,but still keeping faith with the best tower in the Marina

I called Gulf Shores and they say that handover will now be Sept 2010, is that in line with what you guys see at the site?

I called Gulf Shores and they say that handover will now be Sept 2010, is that in line with what you guys see at the site?

^^:ohno:Seems impossible.

I called Gulf Shores and they say that handover will now be Sept 2010, is that in line with what you guys see at the site?

Would seem unlikely that a nineteen floor tower could be completely fitted out internally from scratch within 6 months,never mind glazing,cladding etc.It looks to me that none of this type of work is going to be started until the structure is complete.

At this rate and with the intense heat coming soon, I don't see it topped out until Aug/Sept. Then we can add about a year to this as a general rule of thumb. There is no evidence of the pace picking up yet so 2010, in its entirety, is out!

I called Gulf Shores and they say that handover will now be Sept 2020, is that in line with what you guys see at the site?

^^:ohno:Seems impossible.

Why?

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Dont be fooled,there are 250 people working on the top floor who are just out of sight.:scouserd:

Actually,if i am not mistaken there seems to be some glass fitted on the first floor.

Are these Gulf Shores people credible, this project is certainly is taking its time? A case of best things worth waiting for?

I saw that they're part of some bigger group called either Minwal or Braik, couldn't make much sense of the report I saw. Who is actually managing the project?

Are these Gulf Shores people credible, this project is certainly is taking its time? A case of best things worth waiting for?

I saw that they're part of some bigger group called either Minwal or Braik, couldn't make much sense of the report I saw. Who is actually managing the project?

That is a good question,Gulf Shores have always been involved in the project but originally they seemed to be in some sort of partnership with Oryx real estate who did all the marketing and promised all sorts of nice things but somewhere along the line they distanced themselves from the project with no explanation.If you look back on this forum, the boss of Oryx was a regular contributor so i dont know what went on behind the scenes but now Gulf Shores seem to be on their own.Untill now,apart from the speed of the build,most things about it are as the original renders showed but over the next few months it will be interesting to see what the finishings are like.

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Brilliant pictures. This floor seems to be a lot quicker. Balconies will be great.

^^Yes,i think this is the first floorplate for the 3 bedroom apartments so just 1 more floor to go.:banana:

That is a good question,Gulf Shores have always been involved in the project but originally they seemed to be in some sort of partnership with Oryx real estate who did all the marketing and promised all sorts of nice things but somewhere along the line they distanced themselves from the project with no explanation.If you look back on this forum, the boss of Oryx was a regular contributor so i dont know what went on behind the scenes but now Gulf Shores seem to be on their own.Untill now,apart from the speed of the build,most things about it are as the original renders showed but over the next few months it will be interesting to see what the finishings are like.

Thanks Par 4.
I've been told they have a couple of the larger units for sale and am considering them but I can't say I have much confidence after looking back over the forum. Knowing who is actually managing the day to day project would be a plus. All respect goes to Stephan, for his role which I see is from your forum has ended. His input was great, it's a pity more don't do the same. So much for transparency.
What has happened to the 'luxury items' that were to come fitted? Dropped off the chart?
One of my other concerns would be ensuring their legitimacy and that they are actually properly registered as an LLC here as all I ever seem to see and 'Inc' references Gulf Shores. Having been to a few 'real estate offices' over the past years and found that the 'companies' weren't even registered in Dubai I am a bit cautious on this point now even after RERA began regulating them.
Anyway, we're still looking and a few other properties to consider at the moment.

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For Gulf Shores Inc registration please visit this link:
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End of last year I talked to Gulf Shore about the 'luxury items' and they informed me they are going to provide it for the apartments.

^^Yes,i think this is the first floorplate for the 3 bedroom apartments so just 1 more floor to go.:banana:

Last floor went quite fast considering it's a different layout. But I think there is around 3 more slabs to cast and not just 1. Each being different from the last.

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For Gulf Shores Inc registration please visit this link:
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Thanks, again an 'Inc' but their office told me the contract would be with Gulf Shores LLC, a small detail but my lawyer lives on them.... Do they have an LLC?

Last floor went quite fast considering it's a different layout. But I think there is around 3 more slabs to cast and not just 1. Each being different from the last.

I thought the next floorplate would be the last one apart from the roof which would have the pool etc.

Further up in the thread there is a drawing which shows the pool area layout with a plant level below. So it looks like 1 more floor, 1 plant/mechanical floor and then the pool level. So 3 slabs still to cast and possibly some roof feature.

Hi GS Hope you are well,are you still building.

Not been on for a while,but still keeping faith with the best tower in the Marina

hi plotman

i started my own business back home, thanks for asking. and yes slow and i do believe it to be the best allocated tower in Marina, have faith i'm sure it will come right

Good to hear from you. We sure miss you & wish you were still there

Good to hear from you. We sure miss you & wish you were still there

thanks mate

i miss all you guys to, :cheers:

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Well done 'the atlantic' at last we can finally get an idea of what the finishings will be like,in the pictures some things look good and some things dont,what was your overall impression of how it might all look when finished?

My wife has nearly had a heart attack when i showed her the latest photos,the question is 'where the f--- ' did those tiles & kitchen units come from,they must have bought a job lot in the 70's ,stored them somewhere for 30 years,and are now intending to fit them in our apartments.I THINK NOT.How did they describe it again (The Atlantic is a modern fantasy,an 18 story glass,marble & granite structure,with interiors to suit those who lead a modern life,stylish,high quality and ready to move into with the minimum of fuss).I have the brochure in front of me right now and there is no comparison between the promised fittings and what they are fitting right now.If i wanted to stay in a place with style like that i would visit my Granny,in fact even she would'nt fit that kitchen worktop next to those tiles.:ohno:

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I must admit I don't like the tiles, the table top or the oldfashioned look either :ohno:
And the apartment looks a lot smaller than I imagined. Maybe I have made a mistake.
I think this apartment is type B or 04 2 bedroom (right??) and from your photos I find this hard to believe it is gross 1862 sq. feet??

:^^Actually,you are right,the apartment does look small.I stayed in a 2 bedroom apartment in the hotel next to the Infinity tower which i think is now a marriot hotel,it was 1600sqf and it was huge,i hope this is not going to be the next issue,i've had just about as much as i can take.Looking at the picture of the kitchen we were supposed to get with its sleek lines,modern units,big double door fridge etc. and compare it to that shambles above,i could cry.:gaah:

My first 3 words that comes to mind “what the F****”, I’m so thankful my name is no longer attach to this havoc , a skyscraper that had so much potential, now finished with Chinese cheapies found in a used shop, what were they thinking? I can only perceive it getting shoddier, well shoddier could be glorified, is this what they call value engineering? Can you envision what the exterior is going to look like, it seems that JBR will come across like a master piece compared to this ATLANTIC titanic that now seem ruined from the start, one hell of a view, one hell of a disappointment. Anyone accepting anything like this as acceptable should not consider the property market as a choice of business- well my thought only. I’ve seen enough this is becoming a joke, and just by seeing it makes me ill in the stomach.

So good-bye you all and good luck with the completion of this one’s well thought-out beauty, leaving me with:bash:and :wallbash: and now the:tiasd:of the Marina. so all i can say now is:goodnight

Every owner should call and ask for Shukri Saleh Yahya Al Braik and complain about the quality and inform him we -the owners collectively - are going to bring him to court if he does not deliver the promised quilt and we will not pay any more payment. Shukri is the Company owner and he is acting as a project manager (they do not have a project manager any more).

This is the right time to make the noise and correct this with GS. Please act as soon as possible. If you are in Dubai go and meet with him in person or at least send an official email/letter addressed to him and ask for an official reply.
Please remind him we are going to ask for an alternative accommodation or rent according to the contract if we do not get the right quality.

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The Atlantic, what did you think when you saw the inside? Do you know how many apartments have already been done? Any idea as I have a first floor one bed so chances are it's been done already. Did you manage to get inside the one beds.
Those tiles look like cheap s**t. What a dissapointment.

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OH MY GOD, that is the biggest worst joke ever. 2 options come to my mind:
1) Trying to get out of the contract. I only purchased Jan 2008 so my contract is slightly different. I have the same 10.(1) Termination clause but my contract does not state a delivery date however i believe when its not in the contract then one can refer to exchanged emails/correspondence and the delivery date communicated there. ANYBODY KNOWS BY ANY CHANCE??? otherwise its LAWYER TIME!!! - which is not my favourite option but maybe we can get a group rate if we get a couple of people together
2) or maybe they agree that we can finish off the apartment by ourselves (with no further payments to make or only an additional small percentage). id rather get an architect and interior designer myself and do it properly than moving into a tasteless s*** hole like that. that was suppose to be my very first own home!
I AM SO IN SHOCK - DID NOT EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN WITH THE ATLANTIC.

This really does show the dangers of buying 'off plan'.These developers can promise you anything until they have your money,then they can do what they want.It is obvious that this developer means to cut every corner possible.The problem is that even if we were to spend money sorting out our own apartments,the likelyhood is that they will also have made a balls up of all the common areas so i think we must all act now before they go any further.Firstly i think everyone should contact this man Shukri individually as soon as possible to let there feelings be known.I personally have no intention of making anymore payments until what i was promised is delivered.If this makes no difference then we will have to collectively go down the legal route.

ok, found the delivery date in my contract: 30th June 2009 (alternative accommodation is not mentioned) so termination should be possible.

Ill get in touch with them and see how cooperative they are. Am not expecting too much though.

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This sitting room is 4 meter wide, but looks more narrow on the photo. I guess it is because the celing is not done.

Do you have any more photos up your sleeve, Atlantic? ^^
What were the unit numbers you saw?

Absolutely pathetic. No way I want it like seen. I think legal route for money back is the only alternative. If someone in Dubai can organise a collective group route I am for it. Anybody have any ideas of chances of termination of contract & getting money back. How can Shukri even think of putting these kind of fittings in such a great location. Please help somebody.

This is what you are going to get from “Learn as you go builders”

I’m totally shocked at what is being presented as the finishes, and obviously we have to act together very quickly!!

I plan to be in Dubai from 3rd May until end of May, and have emailed Mehul to set-up a meeting with me and Shukri in early May. If there is anyone else who is in Dubai during this period and is keen on joining me (if the meeting gets arranged) lets go in there as a force – together.

According to my contract, if there are any changes to the finishes, which the developer can do, it must be of an equal or better quality.

Hope to hear from interested parties.

I’m totally shocked at what is being presented as the finishes, and obviously we have to act together very quickly!!

I plan to be in Dubai from 3rd May until end of May, and have emailed Mehul to set-up a meeting with me and Shukri in early May. If there is anyone else who is in Dubai during this period and is keen on joining me (if the meeting gets arranged) lets go in there as a force – together.

According to my contract, if there are any changes to the finishes, which the developer can do, it must be of an equal or better quality.

Hope to hear from interested parties.


I am in. Just let me know day and time and ill be there.
Does anybody have a list of investors in the project? I am sure every single person who put their money in it will be interested to stop them from going ahead with this tasteless finishing.

Why don't you ask them if they will pay for alternative accommodation or pay equal rent because our apartments are delayed?

Why don't you ask them if they will pay for alternative accommodation or pay equal rent because our apartments are delayed?

Pleth,I believe you are already living in Dubai in rented accomodation,I assume that gulf shores are not paying for that,and if not why not?

I am in. Just let me know day and time and ill be there.
Does anybody have a list of investors in the project? I am sure every single person who put their money in it will be interested to stop them from going ahead with this tasteless finishing.

There is a list of all the investors,but I dont have it.I think one of the investors who lives in Dubai has the list,so if you are reading these posts and can get us all together please do so and we can try to get this sorted.

I suggest every owner sends an email to Mehul at gulf shores regarding the finish. Hopefully GS will realise how disgusted we are.

thanks all for the updates, I was considering buying but not now!

I see they're using RAK ceramics. I know from fitting out our own houses that they can be good but are the cheapest in the market unless you buy out of Dragon Mart.

I have been following the progress or not so of the Altantic here and I feel I really have to post my thoughts on the disgusting outdated interiors that they are fitting in the apartments. GULF SHORES WHAT ARE YOU THINKING do you seriously think that the apartments look attractive with these fittings and any serious buyer is going to accept the shody interiors and fittings. I have sent an email out to them stating my disgust and asked them to set up an emergency meeting with Shukri and this is the reply received. This is definitely what was not promised.

"Please be Advised that we are not skyscrapers.com, and we cannot verify the photos.

But we suggest we have a meeting with you as soon as Mr. Shukri Al Braik is back in country"

A date for the meeting has still not been set up.

Does Shukri really think the interiors are attractive and will add value to the apartments ?

I am in Dubai from the 10th May , so would be happy to meet up with any investors to see if we can come up with a plan of action. I am disgusted and outraged that they can get away with this. Not only is the development extremley late but this is now taking the p***....

If the interiors are so shoddy I would hate to think what the external communal parts will look like!!!

I got the same reply as Sue001. Mr Shukri will be back 1st week of May and once he gets back they will set up a meeting.

I look forward to hearing how the meeting goes,I wish I could be there but it is just too short notice for me.Check out the infinity thread and see what our interiors should be like.

I look forward to hearing how the meeting goes,I wish I could be there but it is just too short notice for me.Check out the infinity thread and see what our interiors should be like.

My heart is bleeding :ohno:.....thats what i call "stylish", "modern", "high-quality" finish just like it was stated in the Atlantic sales brochure. That's what i was expecting to see in our project.

I have been trying to get an appointment with Shukri for the last 6 weeks and I am always told that he is either out of the country or busy with meetings. If anyone in Dubai is able to secure a meeting with him, please let me know and I'll do the same if I manage to get hold of him. I have an unpleasant feeling that he is trying to avoid the investors and hence all the excuses his office are coming up with. I'm now told, he will be back in May. When I asked to meet him in March, I was told: he'll be more available in April...

Had a look at Infinity. What a nice modern fittings. GS please have a look at the modern fittings & this is what we should get & this is the type that was promised not the cheap tacky stuff that is being put in.

True Blue,if your in Dubai at the moment,any chance that you could try to blag your way in to the Atlantic and give us your opinion of whats going on.Your visit to Infinity sounded & looked amazing,mabye its naive of me but I always hoped that was what the Atlantic apartments were going to look like.

^^I'm home!:cry:

Was supposed to be a week of grafting and a week of relaxing, I even bought a heavy read to help me pass the time. However I had practically no time to myself and only went to Infinity as Imre was keen to see it. I was meant to go to Silverene to but just did not have the time.

Had hoped to tie up with lots of old friends while out there but just did not manage it. So, sorry to Pleth, Desert Weasel, Altin(again) Jeetha, 234Sale, Agod, no got you! :lol:

I just had a look at the infinite flats and how sad that the atlantic, a prime block in a prime postition is NOWHERE NEAR how the internals of the infinite looks like. GULF SHORES if you are bothering to read this post take a look at the infinite flats - this might knock some sense into your brains.........and see what monster you are creating.........

Was really disappointed in here. Had a look around today and very dated are the fittings. The position is fab and windows in the bathrooms, thats a rare one over here.

30/April/2010

The Atlantic

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Was really disappointed in here. Had a look around today and very dated are the fittings. The position is fab and windows in the bathrooms, thats a rare one over here.

When you looked round the building were you with anyone who mattered as far as making decisions and changes is concerned.I would also like to know if there is any indication of how they are intending to ruin the common areas yet.

I’ve just visited the Atlantic Tower, and went into see what the finishes looked like. I’m so shocked, they so down market and utterly disgusting for tower that was advertised as “..all fixtures and fittings have been chosen to add polish”. The kitchen tiles and unit are shockingly old fashion and low grade quality–it’s hard to describe. The bedroom cup are even worse, the have a vinyl finish with a spackles.
I can’t believe that the person/company doing the interior finishes has ANY experience or exposure to what is modern and acceptable for a top notch tower which was marketed as such. This is pure robbery and misrepresentation! Unfortunately I never had a camera with me.

Some of the options I believe are 1) Get Mr. Shukri on board by using legal tactics, which may in the long run be cheaper than rectifying the interiors after the fact. 2) Get Mr. Shurki to agree that the owners (whose who opt for this option) will pay for their own interior fitting and fixtures, based on a reduced in the payment for their units, e.g. +-30%.
By the sounds of it, the current contractors would do the work, with the materials supplied by the owners.

Whatever happens.. we need to act quickly.

This is very concerning - what about the common areas??

^^Do you have a meeting with Shukri arranged yet?
Please lets us all know when it will be so that as many people as possible can join you.I will fly out to Dubai if I know there is a definate date arranged.

Yes we need to get this sorted ASAP. With this fittings it is not worth what we have paid so far. I am willing to fly in for the day just for the meeting. i am so devastated by all of this just as every investor. How can one get cheated so openly.

had a phone con with Mehul today. Firstly, Shukri's return has been postponed further so a meeting with Mr. Shukri beginning of May will not happen and no official return date could be communicated. Secondly, according to Mehul the current kitchen design was not approved by Shukri. It will be removed and within the next 10days another kitchen will be built in. I am reciting " the new kitchen will be off-white with black granite".
Thats the latest.

Hi Tinasi -Thankyou for letting us know, suprise suprise Shukri's not available for another appointment, is he ashamed to be associated to such a monstorous apartment - another appointment that he cant make........I personally think we will never get an appointment with Shukri......

I personally have lost faith in them and dont trust them. What they say and what they do are two different things, all I know is that they cannot be trusted anymore and we still need to ensure that we are all on board to ensure that we don't get taken for another ride.

"according to Mehul the current kitchen design was not approved by Shukri. It will be removed and within the next 10days another kitchen will be built in."

Even more worrying if they are putting in fittings without a project manager or confirmation from Shukri, does he really think we are all that stupid and are going to fall for such a poor excuse!!!!!

Mehul if you are reading this what about the bathroom, windows, cupboards infact the whole apartment needs to be designed as it was originally stated in the sale brochures!!! So if you are reading this take note...... and dont fob us off with any more excuses. The apartment should be fitted out as its in the brochures.

I am going to email him and ensure that I do go and see him when I am in Dubai next week.

Tinasi/Zuluboy - I am going to be in Dubai next week can we meet up and see if we can all go down and see Mehul - would be grateful for your thoughts...let me know.


I am starting to collect all the emails of the investors - just incase a joint action is necessary - could you please send me your email addresses and apartment numbers via the private messages

I emailed Mehul on arrival here (3 May) for a meeting with Shukri, and was informed that he is in South Africa and by the sounds of will be out of the country for the month of May. I asked Mehul to put me in touch with Mr. Shukri's 2IC, but to date haven’t received a reply. If I don’t get a reply by tomorrow I shall call him.

Let me stress, it is not only the kitchen that is shocking, but the tiles in the kitchen and bathrooms – its all sooo distasteful and cheap! I’m open to different tastes in interiors, but this is blatant misrepresentation and theft - nowhere near what was advertised.

Sue001, you are totally correct, the spec represented in their adverting brouchers is not what is being build. From what I can see, the aprtments as supposed to have very little brick and mortar, and a lot more glass. Well, it nowhere like this, and once it built it is very difficult to rectify.

Personally, I don’t believe them and they are trying desperately to buy time and finish the tower, before we can react.

When on site I got confronted by the contractor and they weren’t happy to see that I was on site inspecting the apartment interiors. I also made it known that I was not satisfied with any of the finishes.

Not sure as to how to get your personal details, but feel free to contact me, and we can meet – this goes to any of the investors out there. I shall be here until 30 May, and believe this should be resolved by then.

had a phone con with Mehul today. Firstly, Shukri's return has been postponed further so a meeting with Mr. Shukri beginning of May will not happen and no official return date could be communicated. Secondly, according to Mehul the current kitchen design was not approved by Shukri. It will be removed and within the next 10days another kitchen will be built in. I am reciting " the new kitchen will be off-white with black granite".
Thats the latest.

If kitchen will be changed ,how about the bathrooms and the rest of fittings

Zuluboy,when you were there were the contracters still continuing to fit out the apartments?

I spoke to Mehul and he informed me that they were going to change the kitchen units within the next 10 days. I mentioned the fact that I wasn’t satisfied with the other finishes either, i.e. tiles, cupboards etc. Anyway he promised me he will try setup a meeting with Mr. Skukri’s partner in Abu Dhabi, ASAP.
I’ll come back to you as so as I know the dates.

I was at the Atlantic this week and the kitchen units were already fitted.

What the hell has been happening, only just seen the kitchen pics. I will be adding an email re quality now.

Good to hear from you Plotman,its not just the kitchens,if you look a couple of pages back you will see some other horrors,so a strong email or phone call would be good.

Well done to the concerted efforts by all to highlight the latest on the progress of the Atlantic. What a shame to waste the location and the design with such cheap and horrible fittings.
I have also e-mailed Mehul Shah today about the disgraceful quality of the finishings.
I believe the new handover date is now September 2010, is this feasible?
Thanks to all and keep up the pressure.

^^September doesn't seem possible to me even if they left that rubbish in there,never mind having to rip it all out,order the proper materials and then fit them,but I would still rather wait a bit longer and get what I paid for.

Well done to the concerted efforts by all to highlight the latest on the progress of the Atlantic. What a shame to waste the location and the design with such cheap and horrible fittings.
I have also e-mailed Mehul Shah today about the disgraceful quality of the finishings.
I believe the new handover date is now September 2010, is this feasible?
Thanks to all and keep up the pressure.

I also emailed Mehul and asked for quick meeting with Mr :shukri,and i explained that those fittings are not acceptable to me and i am ready to fly over to Dubai and meet him,also my concerns is the lobby quality,is it going to be like the brochure or it is going to be changed too.

I have an appointment Mr. Mohd Salem the other partner of the Atlantic Tower in Dubai, Union Tower,301, Sheikh Zayed Road on Saturday 15/5/2010 @ 11 am.

I believe it would be great to have a number of owners attend with me, so please get hold of me privately and lets meet before this date to discuss our strategy . I shall confirm this date and time tomorrow.

I have an appointment Mr. Mohd Salem the other partner of the Atlantic Tower in Dubai, Union Tower,301, Sheikh Zayed Road on Saturday 15/5/2010 @ 11 am.

I believe it would be great to have a number of owners attend with me, so please get hold of me privately and lets meet before this date to discuss our strategy . I shall confirm this date and time tomorrow.
I have sent you a pm.

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Pleth I pm you.

Hi Zuluboy,

How did the meeting of the 15th May go with the partner?
Would appreciate any update.
Many thanks in advance.

9 people at the meeting, including Mr. Mohammed Shalem and Mehul from Developer side (7 Investors and 2 Developer reps). The meeting was unstructured with many people voicing their complaints at the same time. Headway was made as all agreed to a follow-up meeting on site to view the finishes on Monday 17th together with Mr Mehul only. Objective of this meeting was to view the new kitchen units and other fixtures and fittings for assessment by Investors e.g. tiles, bathroom fittings, cupboards, etc
Other than the floor tile sample viewed in what we think was a bedroom area which is acceptable, the rest of the finishes, fittings and fixtures viewed to date are completely unacceptable, substandard and of poor quality. The group informed Mr Mehul for him to communicate this back to Mr Mohammed Shalem.

At this stage we are waiting for feedback from Mr Mohammed Shalem on the way forward.

Although there appears to be promises of movement in the correct direction, I still intend lodging a complaint with RERA against the developers of the Atlantic Towers so that we have this on record in the event things do not get addressed to our satisfaction. We will naturally withdraw this complaint if the Developer fulfills his obligations as per the illustrations of how this tower should be constructed and finished in accordance with the illustrations and wording included in the Sales Brochures issued by Oryx and Taktical real estate when these units were marketed and sold to Investors. These brochures depict what we bought and the Developer has an obligation to deliver in accordance with these documents. I strongly suggest all concerned investors to do the same in terms of lodging complaints with RERA.

I think your first priority should be to get the shell and communal areas to as high a quality as possible and then next the apartments.

"Kerb appeal" is important in the value of real estate so the external appearance of the building has to be good or the interiors will become irrelevant.

Bear in mind that you can adjust the interiors to your personal preference but you are stuck with the rest for a very long time.

^^Thats a good point,was there any sign of what the communal areas are going to look like?The lobby for example.

True Blue,when you say kerb appeal regarding the external look of the tower,I always assumed that the exterior was one part that would have to be exactly as promised as the planning dept. would not allow otherwise or am I wrong ?

They could have applied for an ammendment to the approved scheme. They might still be waiting approval and therefore the reason why only a sample has been produced so far.:dunno:

I have just submitted my complain to Rera. Can the other investors please do that as well. We just cannot accept cheap & distasteful fittings on top of all the delays.

Can you give me the e mail address for complaining to as I've complained before and not heard back. I also went into their site but couldn't put in a complaint as you need a Dubai address.

Sheltie when you go to rera website just click on complaints. for complaint category there are about 7 types. just click on any & I have put down Gulf Shores address & phone number in the Dubai part. I hope it helps & now wait for some sort of reply.

Cheers, I'll try that.