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CROATIA - PROJECTS, CONSTRUCTION, & ECONOMIC NEWS III
Foci of Discussion:
Projects/Construction: Things being built that aren't particular to any single city. This includes highways, railroads, etc.
Economic News: Developments in Croatia related to industry, the Croatian economy, foreign investment, Croatian companies, GDP Growth forecasts, etc.
Military: Newly added to the discussion. This mainly includes the purchase of new military equipment for the Croatian Armed Forces, including the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Coast Guard, release of outdated Croatian military equipment, and of any military developments happening within the Croatian Armed forces, such as military showcases, parades, joint practices, etc.
Other: All other miscellaneous developments in the interests of Croatia.
LINKS TO PREVIOUS CROATIA DISCUSSIONS:
CROATIA - Projects, Construction, & Economic News II (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=229345)
CROATIA - Projects, Construction, & Economic News I (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=145332)
Have at it. :cheers:
OettingerCroat August 10th, 2005, 08:19 AM raising the bar, eh? no other opening for the Croatia thread looked this pimp.
Mantas August 10th, 2005, 08:32 AM Old thread can be found here
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=229345
:cheers:
OettingerCroat August 10th, 2005, 08:45 AM thx u mantaz ;)
SinCity August 10th, 2005, 08:47 AM raising the bar, eh? no other opening for the Croatia thread looked this pimp.
Very nice OettingerCroat. :okay:
OettingerCroat August 10th, 2005, 08:49 AM thx u
now i see, i only have 96 posts now.... grr!
Mantas August 10th, 2005, 08:51 AM thx u mantaz ;)
ne za što ;)
long foot August 10th, 2005, 09:21 AM Can you believe this? Construction of Biokovo tunel was stoped couse constructor is a friend of general Gotovina. :rant:
www.vecernji-list.hr (http://www.vecernji-list.hr/newsroom/news/croatia/350198/index.do)
OettingerCroat August 10th, 2005, 05:55 PM eto vam ga na, glupi ste nacionalisti, ne vidite ispred trbuha, niste celi predati Gotovinu, pa sad se jebite. nije mi vise stalo. zao vam je predati gotovinu, a onda s druge strane pizdite kako Europska zajednica vas ne prima i kako se tuneli vise ne grade. pa odlucite gdje stojite. Ili predajte Gotovinu, ili nemojte pokusavati uci u Europu. Ne mozemo mi sitnici pokusati zajebavati Europu. Na kraju, mi cemo VAZDA najebati. eto moje misljenje. ne mozete htjeti jedno, ciniti drugo, a govoriti trece.
long foot August 10th, 2005, 07:49 PM Eh, sad zvučiš kao da ja osobno krijem Gotovinu :D
Nije EU zaustavila gradnju tunela, već je riječ o hrvatskim političkim igrama, jer Vlada ne želi, zbog toga što je graditelj Gotovini prijatelj, dati bankovna jamstva za gradnju.
bubach_hlubach August 10th, 2005, 10:36 PM eto vam ga na, glupi ste nacionalisti, ne vidite ispred trbuha, niste celi predati Gotovinu, pa sad se jebite. nije mi vise stalo. zao vam je predati gotovinu, a onda s druge strane pizdite kako Europska zajednica vas ne prima i kako se tuneli vise ne grade. pa odlucite gdje stojite. Ili predajte Gotovinu, ili nemojte pokusavati uci u Europu. Ne mozemo mi sitnici pokusati zajebavati Europu. Na kraju, mi cemo VAZDA najebati. eto moje misljenje. ne mozete htjeti jedno, ciniti drugo, a govoriti trece.
Pa kaj ti ozbiljno mislis da gotovina samo tako pada s neba? Koliko vise ta EU trazi gotovine od nas, pa nismo mi Norveska covjece :D
Inace sam misljenja da bi se Gotovina trebal predati, ne zbog mene, tebe, EU ili tamo neke tete u vrticu, vec prvenstveno zbog samog sebe. Ukoliko se ne zeli predati, to je njegov osobni izbor, okay. Prije tocno 10 godina i pet dana konacno je bila odredjena sudbina Hrvatske. Da nije bilo Gotovine ili slicnih njemu, Hrvatska bi danas imala parazitsku drzavu unutar svojih granica, te bi bila presjecena na pola, osim toga ne bi niti bila kandidat za EU kojoj svi toliko silno tezimo, a kakva bi tek nam bila sjajna gospodarska i politicka perspektiva, dovoljno ti se je samo naviriti preko granice nasih susjeda s kojima djelimo najduzu granicu - "ljudi doslovno uzivaju".
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mic of Orion August 11th, 2005, 12:10 AM I think Gotovina case only symbolises more than anything in Croatia is Corruption, how everything is not all as it seems, how cretin ppl pull strings and how some still abuse there status and privileges..
And as to Gotivina being responsible for Croatian victories in 1995, is pure BS, his tactical and strategic abilities are best described rudimentary, Ivan Cervenko in other hand I could say knows and knew what he was doing…
I met Cervenko in 1999 and few other ppl from Croatia military Hierarchy, such as Imre Agotic and Admirals Kajic and Letica….
I have no nice thoughts for Gotivina, he is war profiteer and Siroki Brijeg twat…
His military credentials are very limited he was Sergeant in Foreign Legion and to some degree he had tactical knowledge of leading small squad of ppl,. But commanding brigade or division of men (4000-180000 men) I doubt that…
And Gotovina being a hero, than this word has little value in Croatia, if it did it wouldn’t be thrown all over the place as if it was a wholesale… Hero’s do not run, hero’s face the fear and confront it with honour, strength, honesty and bravery…
None of these characteristics and qualities would be familiar to Gotovina and his supporters, if it where they’d told him what would be honourable thing to do…
mic of Orion August 11th, 2005, 12:38 AM what i meant by an hour was if it were to go express, as in, no stops between zagreb and split. just flat out 400 km from zagreb center to split center
i know the difference between the ice cube and ice tray, about how the cube goes 400 km, and tray 230, and how they look the same and have same comfort. i was saying if croatia were to completely retrofit all of its trains to say south korean or french level. u know, with the cement railways.
i was saying earlier it would make sense for croatia in the long run to make cement railways. it has to be an uncatchable role model in the region. something the rest can just stare at and be amazed by.
I know what you saying, but ICE3 (Icecube) never goes at speeds of 400kmph, it is only designed speed, average speed is 250kmph, and in Germany where it is in service, flat land and all independent tracks and so on, it still goes only 250kmph and on some section it goes 300kmph, but average when you consider is about 220kmph as it takes about (my experience – took ICE3 from Munich to Frankfurt) it took me about 2 and half hours on train, the distance is about 350-400km…
I also travelled to Köln from Stuttgart and same feel, it does go fast but not what you think. Stevan uses it more often than me as I only used it 4-5 times in my entire life, he uses it is 4-5 times a month, so he can be better source but my feel is he would confirm what I have said….
ICE-T is tilting as well so only difference would be perhaps a prestige and speeds, but If this where to be the case plenty of time for that, no CE country has plans to build HST system.. Way to expensive and to few ppl would use it… Air Travel is so cheep these days you can fly to Split for 200HRK (about 35US$ - from Zagreb) so potential HTS between Zagreb and Split would not be financially feasible or would bring any prestige if it where to close down with thousands of job losses and heavy debt for country to pay back… (It would be fun to have HST, lol but not likely)…
Spain built its HST with EU funding, and from this angle it was cheep, as it only paid 50% of the actual cost. In past Spain had appalling railways I mean it was so bad they decided to go from scratch buy building HST they built superb system which rivals French TGV system and they can be proud for it…
Anyways gtg,
OettingerCroat August 11th, 2005, 05:02 AM samo sam htio reci da ocekivate ovake pizdarije kada izaberete kretene kao Sanaderovu ekipu da vode brigu o vasoj zemlji.
btw, Mike, gotovina isnt siroki brijeg, he's from pakostane, which associates itself with Zadar; he is an actual Croat, but behaves just like a Siroki Brijeg idiot.
otherwise i agree with u 10000%, hes no hero, he's a fuckin pussy who is shameful and a disgrace to Croatia. He should be sent to Hague for the rest of his life for acting like such a stupid, primitive "seljak," if you ask me.
SinCity August 11th, 2005, 05:11 AM After years of war, economic difficulties, emigration, etc. Croatia is finally experiencing a positve increase of population with many new born babies.
A number of Croatian cities are reporting this year more babies being born than from previous years. Some cities are already into a 2nd and 3rd trend of increasing number of new borns year after year. :)
In addition, the past few years has seem more people coming to Croatia to live than those that are leaving for other countries. Another positive impact on population growth.
We might be very lucky to see a population of 5 million in the decade or so ahead. :yes: .....
Napokon baby boom
Povećan broj novorođene djece nakon Osijeka bilježe još Varaždin, Čakovec i Rijeka
Nakon baby booma u Osijeku, u čijem je rodilištu ove godine rođeno 160 beba više nego lani, povećan broj novorođene djece bilježe Varaždin, Čakovec i Rijeka, dok je Split povećanje zabilježio još prošle godine.
Da se u Varaždinu ove godine rodilo više beba nego lani, potvrđuje Ivan Pižeta, voditelj Djelatnosti za ženske bolesti i porodništvo varaždinske opće bolnice.
»Do 10. kolovoza prošle godine imali smo 940 poroda, dok ih je ove godine već 1070. Prosječno dnevno imamo do osam poroda, no ima dana kad ih je i 13«, ističe Pižeta.
I u susjednom Čakovcu bilježe porast novorođenih beba. Dosad su imali 809 poroda, što je za oko 60 više nego lani.
»Ako se ovakav trend nastavi, do kraja godine mogli bismo imati i 1300 poroda«, rekli su u Županijskoj bolnici u Čakovcu.
U posljednjih četiri-pet godina u Rijeci bilježe stalan porast broja novorođenčadi, pa je tako u 2004. rođeno 2827 djece, što je 67 više nego u 2003., a čak 193 više nego 2002. U prvih sedam mjeseci i deset dana ove godine u riječkom rodilištu rođeno je 1780 beba, odnosno 113 više nego lani u istom razdoblju, a čak 159 više nego 2003. godine.
Prema riječima glavne medicinske sestre Klinike za ginekologiju i porodništvo KBC-a »Rijeka« Branke Lučić, u srpnju ove godine u Rijeci je rođeno 230 djece, četiri manje nego u istom mjesecu 2004. dok je u lipnju rođeno 276 beba što je čak za 52 više nego u istom mjesecu 2003. Glavna sestra nam je rekla da nešto veći broj poroda očekuju u rujnu, kada na svijet dolaze »božićno-novogodišnja« djeca, začeta u veselju blagdana.
Splitsko rodilište svoj baby boom, prvi nakon 15 godina, zabilježilo je u rujnu prošle godine, kada je na svijet došlo 630 novorođenčadi, odnosno 200 više od uobičajenog prosjeka.
Nakon desetljeća neprestanog opadanja broja novorođene djece, tijekom 2004. godine u splitskom je rodilištu zabilježeno 8,87 posto više poroda nego u 2003. Na svijet je ondje lani stiglo 4267 beba, odnosno 348 više nego godinu ranije, čime se splitsko rodilište svrstalo među one u kojima se broj poroda povećava.
U srpnju ove godine u Splitu je rođeno 389 djece, gotovo jednak broj kao i u srpnju 2004. godine. Od početka ove godine svijet je na splitskoj ginekologiji ugledalo 2618 mališana.
Unatoč optimističnim statističkim pokazateljima, Split je još uvijek daleko od 5000 novorođenčadi godišnje, koliko ih je bilježio prije Domovinskog rata.
Irena Dragičević
Damir Herceg
Mihaela Zagoršćak
Napokon baby boom (http://www.vjesnik.hr/html/2005/08/11/Clanak.asp?r=unu&c=2)
bubach_hlubach August 11th, 2005, 05:16 AM I think Gotovina case only symbolises more than anything in Croatia is Corruption, how everything is not all as it seems, how cretin ppl pull strings and how some still abuse there status and privileges..
And as to Gotivina being responsible for Croatian victories in 1995, is pure BS, his tactical and strategic abilities are best described rudimentary, Ivan Cervenko in other hand I could say knows and knew what he was doing…
I met Cervenko in 1999 and few other ppl from Croatia military Hierarchy, such as Imre Agotic and Admirals Kajic and Letica….
I have no nice thoughts for Gotivina, he is war profiteer and Siroki Brijeg twat…
His military credentials are very limited he was Sergeant in Foreign Legion and to some degree he had tactical knowledge of leading small squad of ppl,. But commanding brigade or division of men (4000-180000 men) I doubt that…
And Gotovina being a hero, than this word has little value in Croatia, if it did it wouldn’t be thrown all over the place as if it was a wholesale… Hero’s do not run, hero’s face the fear and confront it with honour, strength, honesty and bravery…
None of these characteristics and qualities would be familiar to Gotovina and his supporters, if it where they’d told him what would be honourable thing to do…
Mike, I hardly agree with anything you wrote here, but i can understand you.
The only difference between Gotovina's supporters and you is in perception.
You observe everything through a differently shaped prism, and dont blame you for that, but at the same time i cannot blame those Gotovina's supporters for doing that either.
It is one thing to have views on that damn war in humanistic, theoretical, and practical ways as an observer, but many Croats didn't have such opportunities, that war was their reality.
BTW, I wouldn't believe all those stories about Gotovina; Gotovina this, Gotovina that. He used to be a small fish until politics finally made a total circus out of his case; he was seen in Zadar, next day in Mostar, then two hours later he was suspected of robbing some bank in France, two days later he was back to Zadar, and a month after somebody saw him in Columbia :crazy2:
After all i wouldn't be suprised that MI6 got him :D
:cheers:
bubach_hlubach August 11th, 2005, 05:26 AM samo sam htio reci da ocekivate ovake pizdarije kada izaberete kretene kao Sanaderovu ekipu da vode brigu o vasoj zemlji.
btw, Mike, gotovina isnt siroki brijeg, he's from pakostane, which associates itself with Zadar; he is an actual Croat, but behaves just like a Siroki Brijeg idiot.
otherwise i agree with u 10000%, hes no hero, he's a fuckin pussy who is shameful and a disgrace to Croatia. He should be sent to Hague for the rest of his life for acting like such a stupid, primitive "seljak," if you ask me.
Pa zar nije Sanader bas taj koji je raspisal tjeralicu za Gotovinom? :D
Inace, lako je sve to govoriti iz dijaspore, sve dok se ne iskusi danonocna grmljavina koja traje cak i za lijepog vremena i zvijezdanog neba.
:cheers:
MIMICA August 11th, 2005, 06:09 AM Can you believe this? Construction of Biokovo tunel was stoped couse constructor is a friend of general Gotovina. :rant:
www.vecernji-list.hr (http://www.vecernji-list.hr/newsroom/news/croatia/350198/index.do)
:no:
good for croatia starting the third thread. hope this one is as great as the other two. :)
bubach_hlubach August 11th, 2005, 06:36 AM ^ Thanks, Mimica :)
PODUZETNIŠTVO Ministar Vukelić otvorio industrijsko-poslovnu zonu u Stankovcima
Cilj: Dostići Dugopolje
Autor FRANE ŠARIĆ
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050810/dugopolje.jpg
Poduzetnička zona Stankovci uza samu autocestu bit će uz bok poduzetničkoj zoni u Dugopolju i očekujem da će Stankovci uskoro imati problema s pronalaženjem nove radne snage, odnosno da će je dobivati iz drugih mjesta rekao je za jučerašnjeg svečanog otvaranja i polaganja kamena temeljca u poduzetničkoj zoni u Stankovcima ministar gospodarstva Branko Vukelić.
Novo zapošljavanje
Ministar Vukelić potpisao je s predstavnicima općine ugovor o financiranju komunalne infrastrukture u toj poduzetničkoj zoni u iznosu od 1,8 milijuna kuna, a najavio je ukupno oko sto milijuna kuna nepovratnih sredstava za poduzetnike u ovoj godini u Hrvatskoj. I vi ste u Stankovcima imali težak put s papirima i administracijom s kojom se uistinu treba obračunati jer oni koji nisu za razvoj poduzetništva nisu dobri ljudi. Onima koji ne žele to shvatiti treba pokazati vrata, a naš je cilj birokraciju što hitnije pretvoriti u hitrokraciju rekao je Vukelić.
Velik interes
Stankovačka poslovna zona prostire se inače na površini od 28 hektara, osigurana je sva komunalna infrastruktura, odnosno voda i struja, a načelnik općine Željko Baretić najavio je u sljedećoj godini zapošljavanje najmanje oko 150 ljudi, te svođenje nezaposlenosti u stankovačkoj općini u sljedeće tri do pet godina na nulu.
Za stankovačku poslovnu zonu pismo namjere poslalo je već 45 poduzetnika, a na jučerašnjem svečanom otvaranju za sljedećih nekoliko mjeseci najavljeno je otvaranje pogona betonske konstrukcije, u vlasništvu talijansko-hrvatskih poslovnih partnera, u kojem će se u prvoj fazi zaposliti pedesetak ljudi. Za poduzetničku zonu, u kojoj četvorni metar s komunalnom infrastrukturom stoji oko 3,5 eura, pokazali su interes i Austrijanci, Slovenci, Kanađani, hrvatski povratnici i domaći poduzetnici.
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bubach_hlubach August 11th, 2005, 06:46 AM 10.08.2005 16:42
DOZNAJEMO Međimurski građevinarci u roku završavaju gradnju bolnice
Počeli završni radovi, čeka se natječaj za opremu
Autor Ivica Beti
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050810/bolnica.jpg
ČAKOVEC - Međimurski građevinarci obavljaju završne radove na Polikliničko-stacionarnom paviljonu Županijske bolnice u Čakovcu, gradnja kojeg je počela 15. listopada 2003. godine. Najveće gradilište u Međimurju vrvi radnicima koji postavljaju pročelje od opeke, konstrukciju za aluminijsko i stakleno pročelje, liče zidove, postavljaju instalacije i pripremaju završno uređivanje okoliša zgrade od 12.500 četvornih metara.
- Planiramo do kraja rujna završiti ovaj građevinski dio radova kako bi nam listopad ostao za sitne završne radove, eventualne popravke i čišćenje. Prema ugovoru, zgradu po sustavu ključ u ruke moramo dovršiti do 31. listopada. Problem je što još nije napravljen natječaj za kupnju opreme - kazao je mr. Renato Slaviček iz tvrtke Team, koja je glavni izvođač radova, a Paviljon gradi u suradnji s tvrtkom Međimurje graditeljstvo.p> Vrijednost je njihova ugovora otprilike 76,5 milijuna kuna, odnosno 93,5 milijuna kuna s PDV-om. Zahvaljujući dobrim vremenskim uvjetima radilo se prema planu. Novi će bolnički paviljon imati pet katova. U prizemlju i na prvom katu bit će poliklinike, a od drugog do petog kata stacionari i sobe. Bit će to, kako je najavio ravnatelj dr. Franjo Fundak, moderna bolnica uređena prema europskim standardima, prilagođena potrebama pacijenata.
Župan Josip Posavec kaže kako se priprema specifikacija opreme, nakon čega će se raspisati javni natječaj za kupnju opreme vrijedne otprilike 15 milijuna kuna.
- Početkom rujna idemo na sastanak s ministrom zdravstva Nevenom Ljubičićem kako bismo definirali dalje korake. Datum otvorenja paviljona teško je u ovom trenutku odrediti. Najpesimističniji je rok sredina 2006. godine, no cilj je da to bude i prije - kazao je župan dodavši kako će se u paviljon preseliti i odjeli s Ksajpe i drugih izdvojenih bolničkih postrojenja.
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SinCity August 11th, 2005, 06:51 AM Stankovci is a medium sized town in between Zadar and Sibenik, this new zone is a great idea not only for locals but also for people in both Zadar and Sibenik because they can drive there for work. They expect that this will reduce unemployment to 0% like it did for the one in Dugopolje near Split. Already there is interest for new firms wanting a piece of the action. :yes:
OettingerCroat August 11th, 2005, 07:21 AM Pa zar nije Sanader bas taj koji je raspisal tjeralicu za Gotovinom? :D
Inace, lako je sve to govoriti iz dijaspore, sve dok se ne iskusi danonocna grmljavina koja traje cak i za lijepog vremena i zvijezdanog neba.
:cheers:
slusaj, ja nemam pojma sto si ti sada rekao, molim te dok si u hrvatskim threadovima govori hrvatski, ne taj neki pola-slovenski ;) :jk:
sto sam jedva razumio je da si rekao da je Sanader napisao neki "wanted sign" za gotovinu.
sve sto cu reci, ja dobro znam sanadera, ja znam kako se on ponasa, i on je tip koji zeli jedno, govori drugo, a cini trece. on pizdi da trazi gotovinu, a nije kurcem mrdnuo od kada smo mi posrani hrvati ga izabrali. on je takav. snaga ga je pokvarila od prije samo par kratkih godina.
OettingerCroat August 11th, 2005, 07:42 AM I know what you saying, but ICE3 (Icecube) never goes at speeds of 400kmph, it is only designed speed, average speed is 250kmph, and in Germany where it is in service, flat land and all independent tracks and so on, it still goes only 250kmph and on some section it goes 300kmph, but average when you consider is about 220kmph as it takes about (my experience – took ICE3 from Munich to Frankfurt) it took me about 2 and half hours on train, the distance is about 350-400km…
I also travelled to Köln from Stuttgart and same feel, it does go fast but not what you think. Stevan uses it more often than me as I only used it 4-5 times in my entire life, he uses it is 4-5 times a month, so he can be better source but my feel is he would confirm what I have said….
ICE-T is tilting as well so only difference would be perhaps a prestige and speeds, but If this where to be the case plenty of time for that, no CE country has plans to build HST system.. Way to expensive and to few ppl would use it… Air Travel is so cheep these days you can fly to Split for 200HRK (about 35US$ - from Zagreb) so potential HTS between Zagreb and Split would not be financially feasible or would bring any prestige if it where to close down with thousands of job losses and heavy debt for country to pay back… (It would be fun to have HST, lol but not likely)…
Spain built its HST with EU funding, and from this angle it was cheep, as it only paid 50% of the actual cost. In past Spain had appalling railways I mean it was so bad they decided to go from scratch buy building HST they built superb system which rivals French TGV system and they can be proud for it…
Anyways gtg,
lol i love the way you state how it would be fun to have HST, like its some roller coaster or thrill ride :rofl:
im not challenging you, but explain to me how it would cause job loss.
and im not sure no one would use it, there is no more efficient way to get from city center to city center as easily. airplanes may be faster from zagreb to split, but you have to drive out to the airport from Zagreb Center, park, waste time getting your boarding pass, wait around as they prepare the plane, ALWAYS add at least 30 minutes to your departure time, and actually getting to Split Center?
i mean its so much simpler to use the train. i think a high speed serice would catch on extremely quickly.
bubach_hlubach August 11th, 2005, 07:51 AM ^ Rekao sam da je Sanader raspisao tjeralicu za Gotovinu, a ti ga kritiziras ;) :D
Svezi glede dijaspore, grmljavine, lijepog vremena i zvijezdanog neba; netko tko je cijele rane devedesete zivio u dijaspori, ne moze znati sto donosi i odnosi grmljavina dok se sunce izlezava na horizontu ili zvijezde na nocnom nebu. Ovaj 'prirodni' fenomen je konacno prekinut 1995, uz zasluge mnogih, pa tako i nama omrazenog A.G.
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bubach_hlubach August 11th, 2005, 07:56 AM Stankovci is a medium sized town in between Zadar and Sibenik, this new zone is a great idea not only for locals but also for people in both Zadar and Sibenik because they can drive there for work. They expect that this will reduce unemployment to 0% like it did for the one in Dugopolje near Split. Already there is interest for new firms wanting a piece of the action. :yes:
To tell you the truth, i didnt even hear about this town before lol, im not too familiar with that certain area, and Stankovci sounds rather eastern Slavonian than Dalmatian ;)
I wonder if they'll start producing niper or nipek in that industrial zone, especialy if this town and zone are closer to Sibenik than to Zadar :D
Remember ? ;)
:cheers:
long foot August 11th, 2005, 08:18 AM samo sam htio reci da ocekivate ovake pizdarije kada izaberete kretene kao Sanaderovu ekipu da vode brigu o vasoj zemlji.
Da odmah jasno kažem, Sanader je šupak i pička, ali kakva nam je alternativa? Račan sa svojom vladom od 6 stranaka koja nije mogla donijeti konsenzus ni oko čega a da se vlada ne raspadne? Đapić koji je donedavno držao Pavelićevu sliku u svom stanu? Pusićka i Čačić? Miroslav Tuđman i Ivić Pašalić sa svojom retorikom iz 19 stoljeća? Ili onaj degenerik Tomčić? Da ti stane pamet od izbora!
Pokaži mi jednog poštenog čovjeka na hrvatskoj političkoj sceni i ja ću mu dati svoje krvi, a ne svoj glas. Ovako, ne pada mi na pamet da izlazim na izbore i ponižavam sam sebe glasajući za govna, kako uostalom razmišlja i velik broj Hrvata.
Osim toga, ja mislim da Sanederova vlada neće dobit drugi mandat, kao uostalom nijedna vlada u sljedeća 2-3 mandata, jednostavno zato što neće uspjeti postići bitniji gospodarski rast i blagostanje građana, pa će građani birati bilo koga drugog, samo ne njih.
long foot August 11th, 2005, 08:24 AM A i o kredibilitetu haškog suda bi se dalo raspravljat. Samo jedan primjer: general Armije BiH Naser Orić kojui je branio Srebrenicu je u Haagu, dok krvnici koji su poubijali 8000 ljudi u tom istom gradu nisu. Pa ti sad ovu logiku objasni žrtvama Srebrenice.
SinCity August 11th, 2005, 08:25 AM To tell you the truth, i didnt even hear about this town before lol, im not too familiar with that certain area, and Stankovci sounds rather eastern Slavonian than Dalmatian ;)
I wonder if they'll start producing niper or nipek in that industrial zone, especialy if this town and zone are closer to Sibenik than to Zadar :D
Remember ? ;)
:cheers:
Yeah I remember LOL ...... I couldn't explain it for you. Did you ever find out? :D
SinCity August 11th, 2005, 08:42 AM A i o kredibilitetu haškog suda bi se dalo raspravljat. Samo jedan primjer: general Armije BiH Naser Orić kojui je branio Srebrenicu je u Haagu, dok krvnici koji su poubijali 8000 ljudi u tom istom gradu nisu. Pa ti sad ovu logiku objasni žrtvama Srebrenice.
Good point.
OettingerCroat August 11th, 2005, 09:21 AM hehe listen im not advocating Haag here, just saying if others have gone, why do you have the exclusive right to avoid it. Bite your lip, face the humility, and just go there and let Del Ponte endlessly tongue-lash you. If you were smart and went 4 years ago, you'd have left after 3 months, but oh well.
and frankly i think Racan and the Socialists did a MUCH better job with croatia than this ass did. They started the highway construction, and they put us on the road to the EU. Since all those other parties are irrelevant, just look at the HDZ and SDP.
SDP=Bunch of shit WITH highways AND road to EU
HDZ=Bunch of shit
both suck, but which is better? dont give racan that much shit. he'll be back for sure in the next elections, and it will be with just the SDP and the HNS. It will be indestructible.
Lets take a look 16 yers ago in 1990:
Racan=communist, but assembled first steps of independent Croatia, organized first elections
Tudjman=turned us into banana republic.
honestly, sdp may suck, but the others are all worse.
long foot August 11th, 2005, 09:47 AM hehe listen im not advocating Haag here, just saying if others have gone, why do you have the exclusive right to avoid it. Bite your lip, face the humility, and just go there and let Del Ponte endlessly tongue-lash you. If you were smart and went 4 years ago, you'd have left after 3 months, but oh well.
Zar ti zbilja misliš da Hrvatska skriva Gotovinu? Gdje je tu logika? Isporučiš sve generale koje Haag traži, a onda se inatiš s nekim Gotovinom koji je u principu više manje beznačajna figura? Da Hrvatska ne želi suradnju, valjda ne bi isporučila nikog.
and frankly i think Racan and the Socialists did a MUCH better job with croatia than this ass did. They started the highway construction, and they put us on the road to the EU. Since all those other parties are irrelevant, just look at the HDZ and SDP.
Autocestu je započela graditi još Tuđmanova vlada, ali ju je Račan ubrzao ;) I slažem se da je račan učinio puno na približavanju Hrvatske EU.
Racan=communist, but assembled first steps of independent Croatia, organized first elections
Tudjman=turned us into banana republic.
honestly, sdp may suck, but the others are all worse.
Račanu moramo zahvaliti na tim prvim izborima, jer bez njega ne bi bilo ni demokracije u Hrvatskoj. Ali Tuđmanu moramo priznati da oslobodio Hrvatsku, što je velika zasluga. Tuđman je bio vrhunski vojni strateg i znao je okupiti oko sebe vrhunske vojne stručnjake i zato je dobio rat. Trebalo je osim toga imati muda pa proglasiti neovisnost 1991 dok Hrvatska nije imala ni vojsku ni oružje.
Treba isto tako shvatit da je Hrvatska bila 4 godine u ratu i pod okupacijom i da je tek 1998 reintegrirano Podunavlje - opet Tuđmanovom zaslugom. Ne može u zemlji cvjetati demokracija i liberalizam dok ti je 1/3 teritorija okupirana, imaš milijun izbjeglica i 3 lovačke puške kojima braniš slobodni teritorij.
long foot August 11th, 2005, 10:59 AM Ok, back to projects ;)
Gas pipe line Zagreb east-Kutina-Slavonski Brod is under construction. Total length of high pressure pipe line is 175 km.
Zagreb-Kutina section costs 176.700.000 kn :runaway:
Investor is Plinacro.
More info (http://www.plinacro.hr/novosti.asp)
Pictures:
http://www.gin.hr/images/news_plinovod2_v2.jpg
http://www.gin.hr/images/news_plinovod2_v1.jpg
http://www.gin.hr/images/news_plinovod2_v3.jpg
http://www.plinacro.hr/database/plinacro/novosti/DSC00191.JPG
long foot August 11th, 2005, 11:08 AM Btw Plinacro's building in Savska in Zagreb is being reconstructed and extended. Total surface area is approximately 6000 m2 of office space.
Group Investinženjering (Studio A) made whole design (building and interior) and also performed a role of design engineer supervision.
Realization 2005.
Unfortunately I cant find any rendering :(
long foot August 11th, 2005, 11:11 AM Map of gas pipelines in Croatia and plans for development:
http://www.plinacro.hr/grafika/pravci_razvoja.gif
http://www.plinacro.hr/investicije.asp
long foot August 11th, 2005, 11:23 AM 10.08.2005 16:42
DOZNAJEMO Međimurski građevinarci u roku završavaju gradnju bolnice
Počeli završni radovi, čeka se natječaj za opremu
Autor Ivica Beti
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050810/bolnica.jpg
ČAKOVEC - Međimurski građevinarci obavljaju završne radove na Polikliničko-stacionarnom paviljonu Županijske bolnice u Čakovcu, gradnja kojeg je počela 15. listopada 2003. godine. Najveće gradilište u Međimurju vrvi radnicima koji postavljaju pročelje od opeke, konstrukciju za aluminijsko i stakleno pročelje, liče zidove, postavljaju instalacije i pripremaju završno uređivanje okoliša zgrade od 12.500 četvornih metara.
- Planiramo do kraja rujna završiti ovaj građevinski dio radova kako bi nam listopad ostao za sitne završne radove, eventualne popravke i čišćenje. Prema ugovoru, zgradu po sustavu ključ u ruke moramo dovršiti do 31. listopada. Problem je što još nije napravljen natječaj za kupnju opreme - kazao je mr. Renato Slaviček iz tvrtke Team, koja je glavni izvođač radova, a Paviljon gradi u suradnji s tvrtkom Međimurje graditeljstvo.p> Vrijednost je njihova ugovora otprilike 76,5 milijuna kuna, odnosno 93,5 milijuna kuna s PDV-om. Zahvaljujući dobrim vremenskim uvjetima radilo se prema planu. Novi će bolnički paviljon imati pet katova. U prizemlju i na prvom katu bit će poliklinike, a od drugog do petog kata stacionari i sobe. Bit će to, kako je najavio ravnatelj dr. Franjo Fundak, moderna bolnica uređena prema europskim standardima, prilagođena potrebama pacijenata.
Župan Josip Posavec kaže kako se priprema specifikacija opreme, nakon čega će se raspisati javni natječaj za kupnju opreme vrijedne otprilike 15 milijuna kuna.
- Početkom rujna idemo na sastanak s ministrom zdravstva Nevenom Ljubičićem kako bismo definirali dalje korake. Datum otvorenja paviljona teško je u ovom trenutku odrediti. Najpesimističniji je rok sredina 2006. godine, no cilj je da to bude i prije - kazao je župan dodavši kako će se u paviljon preseliti i odjeli s Ksajpe i drugih izdvojenih bolničkih postrojenja.
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Great news! But I was always fascinated with this stupid Croatian "prema europskim standardima" frustration :lol:
Every bridge, every road, every building must be built "prema europskim i svjetskim standardima" :D If not, it is a tragedy.
mic of Orion August 11th, 2005, 02:03 PM lol i love the way you state how it would be fun to have HST, like its some roller coaster or thrill ride :rofl:
im not challenging you, but explain to me how it would cause job loss.
and im not sure no one would use it, there is no more efficient way to get from city center to city center as easily. airplanes may be faster from zagreb to split, but you have to drive out to the airport from Zagreb Center, park, waste time getting your boarding pass, wait around as they prepare the plane, ALWAYS add at least 30 minutes to your departure time, and actually getting to Split Center?
i mean its so much simpler to use the train. i think a high speed serice would catch on extremely quickly.
To build HST in Croatia would cost somewhere in between 3-5.5 billion US$, for the trains and other supporting structures add another 300 million (for about 20 train sets and driver training), say top price of 5.8 billion US$, for Link - Zagreb - Split,. Zagreb - Osijek and Zagreb - Rijeka...
To get money back from such a huge investment Croatian Railways would need to charge per ticket - what about - 300HRK (one way to Rijeka) 500HRK to Split, and 400HRK to Osijek. For the system to make profit with in 5 years Croatian Railways would need to have about 120 million paying passengers using the system and this would barely make it even, we are not talking of massive competition from Air transport, other moods of transport, like a Car, Bus, other Trains and so on...
Price wise it is also way to expensive, I think it would not be in Croatia's best interest to build such system...
In Germany this is possible as country has 83 million inhabitants, France with its 60million or Spain with its 41 million...
Belgium and Holland have HST only due to the fact it was built by EU money and form northern rail transport corridor thingy... Belgium or Holland don't have or use HST trains, they use normal train sets with max speed of 240kmph...
BTW Holland has 16.4 million ppl living in area size of Dalmatia and Primorje combined, it is flat country with excellent road and rail infrastructure, Dutch ppl are very much anti car and more for public transport thus in longer term would be financially feasible... Sweden has HST trains sets of domestic design but only few kilometres of HST lines, about 50 (370km planed) in total -Stockholm - Gothenburg -Malmo is being built as we speak...
Sweden has population of 8.87 million Inhabitants and most Swedes prefer public transport rather than use cars...
Job Losses, well you figure it out for your self here,.
PS, IF nobody got it yet I am against HST primarily due to the financial reasoning
long foot August 11th, 2005, 02:10 PM Guys, stop dreaming about HST in Croatia ;) it is not gonna happen next 30 years or even more.
OettingerCroat August 11th, 2005, 07:15 PM Račanu moramo zahvaliti na tim prvim izborima, jer bez njega ne bi bilo ni demokracije u Hrvatskoj. Ali Tuđmanu moramo priznati da oslobodio Hrvatsku, što je velika zasluga. Tuđman je bio vrhunski vojni strateg i znao je okupiti oko sebe vrhunske vojne stručnjake i zato je dobio rat. Trebalo je osim toga imati muda pa proglasiti neovisnost 1991 dok Hrvatska nije imala ni vojsku ni oružje.
Treba isto tako shvatit da je Hrvatska bila 4 godine u ratu i pod okupacijom i da je tek 1998 reintegrirano Podunavlje - opet Tuđmanovom zaslugom. Ne može u zemlji cvjetati demokracija i liberalizam dok ti je 1/3 teritorija okupirana, imaš milijun izbjeglica i 3 lovačke puške kojima braniš slobodni teritorij.
ok, ne da ista opet pocnem, samo da kazem, to sto je Tudjman ucinio bi bilo tko drugo mogao uciniti jednako dobro.
OettingerCroat August 11th, 2005, 07:27 PM ok ok i understand, no HST for us.
hey mike, i was pretty sure holland uses either Siemens or Bombardier HST trains. I'm 100% positive i read somewhere that Holland uses "german" hst trains....
and hasn't it been said that for since like the end of WWII, holland has had the world's best highways? like you said, though, that's not hard to achieve when your entire country is as flat as a board. :lol:
now honestly, whats 3.5 billion dollars when we spent 30+ billion SO FAR on motorways?
OettingerCroat August 11th, 2005, 07:33 PM Map of gas pipelines in Croatia and plans for development:
http://www.plinacro.hr/grafika/pravci_razvoja.gif
http://www.plinacro.hr/investicije.asp
two questions about this map, when you say gas, u mean natural gas correct? i know plin is gas state of matter...
second, since when is Metkovic in frickin Bosnia? :rant:
long foot August 11th, 2005, 08:24 PM Yes it is natural gas (plin). Government plans to conect all cities in Croatia with gas pipelines. In northern Croatia everything is ok with realization, but in Istria there are some problems with local authorities.
Metković is not in BiH, it is just a mistake...
long foot August 11th, 2005, 08:37 PM now honestly, whats 3.5 billion dollars when we spent 30+ billion SO FAR on motorways?
we didnt spend 30+ billion $ on motorways, but 15 billion kunas = 2 billions € ;)
mic of Orion August 11th, 2005, 09:15 PM we didnt spend 30+ billion $ on motorways, but 15 billion kunas = 2 billions € ;)
Actually, could be more likely 30 billion Kuna, lol, or about 5 billion US$ or about 4 Billion Euros €...
A kilometre length of motorways cost in average 5 million US$... A link to Split alone could have cost no less than 1.8-2 billion US$... For Kilometre of HST you would need to put aside about 8 million US$...
OettingerCroat August 11th, 2005, 09:19 PM ok, i still dont understand, 2 billion euros, or about 2.5 billion USD, is nothing compared to 30 billion USD spend so far on motorways
long foot August 11th, 2005, 09:20 PM lol, that is exactly what I had on my mind - Zagreb-Split for 15 billion kunas, I forgot Zagreb-Rijeka, Zagreb-Varaždin etc. you ar right it could be 5 billion $.
mic of Orion August 11th, 2005, 09:31 PM You are right, OettingerCroat, you are right, Dutch railways use ICE3 lol, about 25 ICE-3's are in service with Dutch railways, but there are no other HST train-sets, they have funny double Decker train sets which are domestically manufactured EMU's... Quite cool,
ICE-3 Of Dutch Railways
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/nl/electric/emu/ICE/Amsterdam/107-0754_IMG.jpg
Camel Double Decker Train Set
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/nl/electric/emu/IRM/8400-misc/Camel1.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/nl/electric/emu/IRM/8400-misc/p9271234.jpg
esseker August 11th, 2005, 10:08 PM Trains are still a NO1 topic? Highspeed trains :runaway:
Well, my trip to Split by train was not highspeed (it took 12 hours) but I will allways take train over a bus.
I belive Croatia shouldn't give up on modernising the railroad network and should consider building at least one highspeed railroad in the next let's say 5 to 10 years.
The most important thing they have to do to bring people back to the railroad is advertise! Many of my friends don't know that there are discounts for young people so they don't use the train. I don't think bus operators give 30% off the price on all the lines in the land. Even ICN is 30% off.
In addition to this topic, did you know that Gredelj factory delivered modernised Locomotives to some Northern Italian Railroad Company? They say that by using that account as a reference they will be able to stand next to Ansaldo Breda, Alstom and other loco-manufacturers.
Mic of Orion, you posted the picture of ICE from Netherlands and it is the same color as in Germany. Are all ICE's from that manufacturer the same color? Why didn't the Dutch paint it in the color of their rail-company?
mic of Orion August 11th, 2005, 10:32 PM Mic of Orion, you posted the picture of ICE from Netherlands and it is the same color as in Germany. Are all ICE's from that manufacturer the same color? Why didn't the Dutch paint it in the color of their rail-company?
Don't know, you must ask Dutch that, I think it is cose white paint perhaps is best suited for this train, don't know... Even Austrian and Swiss ICE-T's are same, Spanish ICE's are same to...
lindenthaler August 11th, 2005, 11:04 PM Since u re that hot on ICE i ll advice you all to visit thread i made about How to use ICE (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=209170) with pics inclusive video at 300kmph ;)
OettingerCroat August 11th, 2005, 11:25 PM Actually, could be more likely 30 billion Kuna, lol, or about 5 billion US$ or about 4 Billion Euros €...
A kilometre length of motorways cost in average 5 million US$... A link to Split alone could have cost no less than 1.8-2 billion US$... For Kilometre of HST you would need to put aside about 8 million US$...
are you guys fuckin nuts? just 5 billion USD?!?!?!?! i cant believe this, i thought it was 20 billion EUR.... gosh now 5 bilion USD sounds like pocket money. will it cost another billion to get to Dubrovnik from Dugopolje? and what about rijeka-zuta lokva?
OettingerCroat August 12th, 2005, 12:01 AM http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/nl/electric/emu/ICE/Amsterdam/107-0754_IMG.jpg
its depressing that such a ridiculously wealthy country like holland leaves their engines this friggin dirty. thats not from a single trip either. thats weeks right there. :sleepy:
SinCity August 12th, 2005, 01:53 AM I have been grinning from ear to ear reading all the posts so far from yesterday. :D
Cool discussion on trains, motorways and ....... politics. :yes:
Thanx guys! :)
OettingerCroat August 12th, 2005, 02:35 AM Yeah, actually looking over it in retrospect, it was funny, lol!
SinCity August 12th, 2005, 03:25 AM Something a little out of the ordinary .......
The popular American TV show "ER" which is widely watched around the whole world will be filming an entire episode in Šibenik, Croatia. All thanks to its leading star, Croatian born actor Goran Višnjić who plays the role of a surgeon on the hit TV show. Goran BTW hails from Šibenik. This will surely lead to a surge of interest for tourism to Croatian and especially for Šibenik. :)
Secondly, Goran Višnjić has also been shortlisted as one out of 4 possible new candidates to play the future James Bond 007 replacing the retiring Pierce Brosnan. The final decision will be made in September, however Goran is the leading favourite to take the role of the famous British Secret Service Agent. :)
Well done Goran and good luck! :yes:
Goran Višnjić dovodi 'Hitnu službu' u Šibenik (http://www.vecernji-list.hr/freetime/lifestyle/scene/glavni/351082/index.do)
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050811/1-goran1-txt.jpg
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050811/1-goran-txt.jpg
SinCity August 12th, 2005, 03:33 AM Tara Reid, the famous American actress and notorious Hollywood part girl is in Croatia this week filming a number of episodes for her travel show "Wild On". A number of episodes will be based on Croatian cities and islands and will shown across the world.
Tara Reid is one of Paris Hilton's best friends. ;)
Welcome Tara, now doubt you'll enjoy your stay in lovely Croatia. :D
SPEKTAKL Američka glumica i splitski pjevač na jučerašnjem snimanju emisije “Wild on” u Dubrovniku
Tara i Grašo isplovili na Lokrum u zalazak sunca
Autor MAJA RILOVIĆ KOPRIVEC
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DUBROVNIK – Čak i kada se ozbiljno radi, pravi partijaneri nađu vremena za zabavu. Potvrdila je to jučer u Dubrovniku američka glumica, zvijezda “Američke pite” i svjetskih tabloida Tara Reid koja je cijelo poslijepodne provela u zabavi s Petrom Grašom. Tara je u Dubrovnik stigla s partyja iz Splita, gdje je kao i u Dubrovniku ozbiljno radila – snimala priloge za emisiju “Wild on” televizijske kuće Entertainment Television iz Los Angelesa.
Curice vrištale – Graši
Nemalo su se jučer poslijepodne začudili brojni Dubrovčani i turisti kad su u šetnji od hotela Imperijal-Hilton preko Straduna do gradske luke vidjeli visokog i naočitog Grašu sa sitnom plavokosom glumicom. To više što se od tog zanimljivog para nijednog trenutka nisu odvajale brojne kamere i novinari. Brojna je bila ekipa Entertainment televizije u kojoj je Taru u stopu pratilo desetak ljudi, od producenata, snimatelja, garderobijerke, tjelohranitelja...
– Sigurno Grašo snima novi spot – vrištale su curice za Grašom. Rijetki strani turisti prepoznali su Taru, a mnogo ih se raspitivalo tko je plavokosa ljepotica koju stalno fokusira kamera golemog crnog snimatelja.
– Oduševljena sam, ništa slično nisam vidjela u životu. Tolika povijest, kultura... Tko je samo sagradio ovakav grad? Takvo što ne može se naći u Americi – govorila je Tara u “svoju” kameru za svoga prvog poslijepodnevnog obilaska u pratnji misice Ivane Gržetić, kada je obišla glavne gradske punktove i s ekipom se nakratko zadržala u restoranu Cervantes.
Tarina ekipa imala je pune ruke posla već za prvog obilaska grada jer je više kamera snimalo događaje u gradu, pa je večernji dogovoreni obilazak s Grašom odgođen za tri sata. Kako smo doznali, Tara putuje s “Wild on” ekipom s bratom Tommyjem, a oboje su dio priče i turneje o ludoj zabavi diljem Europe. I on je imao posebno javljanje s terase Hiltona.
Brodicom do Lokruma
– Ljudi su pogrešno shvatili da ću joj ja biti vodič kroz Dubrovnik. Koncepcija emisije je takva da Tara uvijek u prilogu ima neku domaću “celebrity” zvijezdu koju ugosti. Ovdje je izbor pao na mene, a njezine su me producentice zvale stotinu puta da potvrde svaki termin susreta – rekao nam je Grašo koji je nakon susreta u Hiltonu svoju gošću iz stare dubrovačke luke u zalaz sunca poveo brodicom k otočiću Lokrumu kod kojeg se i jučer usidrilo nekoliko luksuznih jahti. Jedna od njih poznata je “Talitha G.” kojom je prije nekoliko godina Jadranom krstario Steven Spielberg.
Tara Reid in Croatia (http://www.vecernji-list.hr/newsroom/scena/351772/index.do)
SinCity August 12th, 2005, 04:41 AM Very interesting due to the fact the whole Croatian government will go online offering public services to the citizens. Pretty ambition project IMO. Read on ....... :yes:
FEATURE - Croatia eases into e-world despite glitches
Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:04 AM IST
By Zoran Radosavljevic
ZAGREB (Reuters) - When Koraljka Brnic applied for broadband Internet in May, she soon found out that the ambitious national "e-Croatia" project had its fair share of teething problems.
Running a small language consultancy firm, Brnic regarded a flat-rate, high-speed ADSL connection as an essential business tool which should be "standard in the modern world".
But it wasn't that straightforward.
Clerks at national phone carrier T-HT said they had been swamped with requests -- possibly due to T-HT's aggressive campaign for 'cheaper than ever' ADSL Internet -- and that she first had to cancel her old agreement with the provider.
"They cancelled my old username and password and never installed the ADSL. Meanwhile, I cannot work. E-Croatia obviously has its glitches," said the 27-year-old businesswoman.
As it pushes for membership of the European Union, Croatia's government wants to widen high-speed Internet access as well as implement its own version of the EU's "e-government" project to improve information technology in public administration.
"The aim is to extend broadband to the whole country, with co-financing from the state, connect all state administration via broadband and make all services available online," said Miroslav Kovacic, who heads the government's Central Office for e-Croatia.
"We have had a late start but we are still better than most countries that joined the EU last year. I believe we can reach the EU's level by the time we become members," he said. Zagreb hopes to start entry talks this year and join in 2009 or 2010.
EVERYTHING ONLINE IN 2010?
The idea is that by around 2010 Croats will be able to log on, fill out official forms or questionnaires and send them to state institutions online, without ever leaving their homes. Now, they often queue for hours in state institutions.
Computer education will also be introduced into primary schools from first grade.
The first concrete "e-steps" were taken in May, when Prime Minister Ivo Sanader opened a digitalised land register database and a one-stop shop for local and foreign investors aimed at cutting red tape and reducing widespread corruption.
"We want to have all the services downloadable from the Web by the end of 2006, even if the whole system will not be fully interactive," Kovacic said.
But the government's ambitions may be running ahead of its current capabilities. The day the land database was put online, the justice ministry's server crashed under the pressure of a million attempted entries.
Industry officials doubt the government has the necessary expertise to see its plans through.
"It is good to see the government started to move in the right direction but there is a lot of nice talk and only a few projects have taken off. I don't expect quick changes," said Ante Mandic, head of IN2, the country's leading software firm.
He said the government's e-office lacked the experience to implement projects in the traditionally bloated and inert state administration.
"Money is not the main issue. The government has allocated more than 800 million kuna ($134 million) for the project this year but little has been spent so far," Mandic said, adding the main challenge was to change the people's attitudes.
"This whole thing is about changing the way the administration works. (New technology) brings transparency and removes this frustrating element of mystery citizens often feel when dealing with state bureaucracy."
NO CONSENSUS
Croatia, a country of some 4.4 million people, has around 1.3 million Internet users. Only 35,000 of those use broadband.
"To extend the use of broadband, we have asked T-HT to introduce flat rates and our aim is to have 100,000 broadband users by the end of this year. That is far from enough, but it's a decent start," Kovacic said.
But not everyone is happy with this plan. Damir Hajduk, general manager of Digital City Media, the leading cable TV provider, was concerned by the government's decision to focus on ADSL at the expense of other types of broadband.
He said as connections between cities were held by T-HT, other Internet providers would find it hard to compete with the phone company on ADSL.
"Experience from Europe shows that penetration is greater where the state does not rely on one single technology," Hajduk said.
IN2's Mandic said the former Yugoslav republic had enough resources and well-educated people to get things going but the government needed to come up with a more coherent plan if it is to realise its e-ambitions.
"When you look at countries where this really worked, like Ireland, Finland or Slovenia, you see that there had been an overriding political will and national consensus," he said. "In Croatia, we don't have that. Everything is still chaotic."
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long foot August 12th, 2005, 08:17 AM From october direct line Zagreb-Hamburg by low cost Germanwings :)
Izravni letovi Zagreb-Hamburg
ZAGREB – Zrakoplovna kompanija »Germanwings« uvodi od 29. listopada Hamburg kao četvrti grad u Njemačkoj koji će, uz Koln,Bonn, Stuttgart i Berlin, redovnim linijama biti povezan sa Zagrebom. Za realizaciju plana da se Zagreb nađe na listi od deset gradova prema kojima će avioni ove kompanije letjeti iz Hamburga, rezultat je dobrog poslovanja ostvarenog na linijama za Hrvatsku, navode iz tvrtke. Naime, prosječna popunjenost svih letova je 83 posto tako da se iz Germanwingsa i prije najavljivalo kako namjeravaju povećati broj letova te uvesti nove rute prema našoj zemlji. Trenutno, iz zračne luke Koln/Bonn avioni ove kompanije lete za Zagreb četiri puta tjedno te za Split i Dubrovnik, odnosno iz Stuttgarta i Berlina za Zagreb i Split tri puta tjedno. Linija Hamburg-Zagreb počet će s primjenjivati po zimskom redu letenja prema planiranom terminu.
Inače, ovogodišnji planovi Germanwingsa je ostvariti promet preko 380 milijuna eura i prevesti više od pet i pol milijuna putnika. Iz kompanije najavljuju nadolazeću fazu širenja polovanja pa su u tom smislu u lipnju ove godine naručili 18 novih zrakoplova te potpisali pismo namjere za još dodatnih 12, što znači i više nego trostruko povećanje trenutne flote.
Novi list (http://www.novilist.hr/Default.asp?WCI=Rubrike&WCU=2859285A286328602863285A28582858285D286328A2288F286328632859285D285C285B285F2861286328632863285A2863Q)
SinCity August 12th, 2005, 08:32 AM There needs to be more of a push to allow other budget airlines to fly to Croatia like RyanAir etc. It will open up a huge tourism boom for Zagreb.
long foot August 12th, 2005, 08:36 AM Germanwings, LTU, SkyEurope, Norwegian Air Shuttle, Styrian, EasyJet – they all fly to Croatia ;)
Novi list (http://www.novilist.hr/default.asp?WCI=Pretrazivac&WCU=2859285A286328602863285A28582858285D2863286328632859285B285A2858285D2859286328632863285A2863S)
SinCity August 12th, 2005, 08:46 AM EasyJet fly to Croatia! :eek: I didn't know that. I thought it was still a proposal. Thats good news. :)
OettingerCroat August 12th, 2005, 08:48 AM Something a little out of the ordinary .......
The popular American TV show "ER" which is widely watched around the whole world will be filming an entire episode in Šibenik, Croatia. All thanks to its leading star, Croatian born actor Goran Višnjić who plays the role of a surgeon on the hit TV show. Goran BTW hails from Šibenik. This will surely lead to a surge of interest for tourism to Croatian and especially for Šibenik. :)
Secondly, Goran Višnjić has also been shortlisted as one out of 4 possible new candidates to play the future James Bond 007 replacing the retiring Pierce Brosnan. The final decision will be made in September, however Goran is the leading favourite to take the role of the famous British Secret Service Agent. :)
Well done Goran and good luck! :yes:
Goran Višnjić dovodi 'Hitnu službu' u Šibenik (http://www.vecernji-list.hr/freetime/lifestyle/scene/glavni/351082/index.do)
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050811/1-goran1-txt.jpg
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050811/1-goran-txt.jpg
listen, lol, im all for Visnjic playing bond, but you gotta admit, that is pretty hilarious! LOL A Croat playing James Bond, out of so many other British actors. And i mean come on, the man's been playing a surgeon for the past 10 years, how's he gonna jump into the secret agent scene? lol this is the perfect way of defining the croatian word "štos," ovo je zbilja štos!
:rofl: :colgate:
SinCity August 12th, 2005, 08:48 AM I'd like for RyanAir to fly to Croatia with direct flights from Dublin. I'd like to see more Irish holidaymakers in Croatia. The Irish are cool people and have a similar history to our own. :yes:
SinCity August 12th, 2005, 08:51 AM listen, lol, im all for Visnjic playing bond, but you gotta admit, that is pretty hilarious! LOL A Croat playing James Bond, out of so many other British actors. And i mean come on, the man's been playing a surgeon for the past 10 years, how's he gonna jump into the secret agent scene? lol this is the perfect way of defining the croatian word "štos," ovo je zbilja štos!
:rofl: :colgate:
Anyway, the other 3 apart from our Goran ...... one is an Australian actor, another Yank and the other a Brit. But seriously our Goran is the strongest contender for the role of new 007. ;)
long foot August 12th, 2005, 08:52 AM EasyJet and Styrian still fly only during sumer time, other companies fly 12 months a year. Germanwings is very popular in Croatia. Considering it costs only 19 € to fly to Berlin, I am thinking about visiting that city too ;)
long foot August 12th, 2005, 08:55 AM lol, I cant imagne Višnjić playing Bond, he isnt macho man, he is actually bad actor and looks like pussy ;)
SinCity August 12th, 2005, 08:56 AM EasyJet and Styrian still fly only during sumer time, other companies fly 12 months a year. Germanwings is very popular in Croatia. Considering it costs only 19 € to fly to Berlin, I am thinking about visiting that city too ;)
:eek:. Its really that cheap???? Go for it Long Foot. Fly to Berlin. :yes:
SinCity August 12th, 2005, 08:57 AM lol, I cant imagne Višnjić playing Bond, he isnt macho man, he is actually bad actor and looks like pussy ;)
Perhaps we can offer then Bubach as an alternative 007? :D
long foot August 12th, 2005, 08:57 AM :eek:. Its really that cheap???? Go for it Long Foot. Fly to Berlin. :yes:
19 € plus some airport taxes, very cheap, but I will have to wait to the next year, I have no time now.
Mantas August 12th, 2005, 08:59 AM ^^ Some airport taxes usually make the biggest part of the ticket price which may even triple or rise even more ;) This is more evident for short trips.
long foot August 12th, 2005, 09:06 AM ^^ Some airport taxes usually make the biggest part of the ticket price which may even triple or rise even more ;) This is more evident for short trips.
It is still cheaper than ordinary Zagreb-Berlin flight. It is no more than 100 € for return-ticket, including airport taxes.
long foot August 12th, 2005, 09:13 AM New archaeologic sites discovered on route of future motorway Zagreb-Sisak :) Construction of new motorway should have start early next year, but this will slow down works :(
Na trasi autoceste arheološki lokaliteti
Terenski pregled i geofizička istraživanja utvrdili su da se na trasi buduće autoceste Zagreb-Sisak, dionici Zagreb-Velika Gorica (jug), nalazi osam arheoloških lokaliteta - sedam rimskih iz razdoblja od prvog do četvrtog stoljeća te jedan prapovijesni.
ZAGREB - Kako je izvijestilo Ministarstvo kulture, terenska istraživanja na tim lokalitetima provedena su krajem prošle i početkom ove godine, a sada je u tijeku dogovor s Hrvatskim autocestama radi ugovaranja nastavka istraživanja.
Na lokalitetima je pronađena veća količina kućne keramike i građevnog materijala (opeke) iz rimskog razdoblja.
Geofizička istraživanja obavljena su na područjima rasprostiranja pokretnog arheološkog materijala te su ukazala na arhitektonske strukture, lokalne rimske ceste i dijelove jednog većeg arhitektonskog kompleksa - vila i postaja.
Arheolozi na osnovi svojih istraživanja, kako napominju u Ministarstvu, moraju odrediti kojem razdoblju pojedini lokalitet pripada i o kojoj je vrsti lokaliteta riječ - nekropoli, naselju ili cesti.
S obzirom na to da se nalaze na području utjecaja jakog rimskog autonomnoga grada Andautonija, po ocjeni Ministarstva kulture, uputno je s arheološkog stajališta povezivati te lokalitete.
www.hina.hr
Mantas August 12th, 2005, 09:27 AM ^^ Of course cheaper, since ordinary flights pay the same taxes ;)
AstroBoy August 12th, 2005, 11:46 AM The archaeological find is interesting indeed. They found some stuff on the new sections recently of the Istrian motorways. Roman era relics. It make you wonder what else lies hidden underground.
mic of Orion August 12th, 2005, 03:52 PM listen, lol, im all for Visnjic playing bond, but you gotta admit, that is pretty hilarious! LOL A Croat playing James Bond, out of so many other British actors. And i mean come on, the man's been playing a surgeon for the past 10 years, how's he gonna jump into the secret agent scene? lol this is the perfect way of defining the croatian word "štos," ovo je zbilja štos!
:rofl: :colgate:
Actually Brit Actor got it, G.V can't possibly play James Bond with his EE accent, lol, as to next movie it is last Pierce Brosnann' movie and he'll concentrate on other projects... As to James Bond movies they are all shite anyways, who ever watches this pile of crapp anyway, I never bother watching it, it is so predictable and macho I get sick just watching it... I think some ppl still have Imperialistic predisposition by making this movies, some think they still matter, lol... Wake up call is required, lol...
other ....... .......
Easy Jet and Ryan Air don't fly to Croatia, nor does any other low cost airline (Tyrolean is not low cost) other than German Wings, all of them have applied to fly but all of them where rejected and put on hold till mid 2006... Why you ask, well protectionism and Croatian Airlines which is slow to catch up and likes to have sort of monopoly in Croatia, well not for long as it seems...
Sky Europe wanted to have there major hub in Zagreb along with Budapest and Bratislava, but Croatian Airlines would have none of it... It is likely in 2006 or early 2007 we might ce many low cost airlines landing at Croatian Airports...
As to German Wings being only low cost allowed so far, well Germans are very close to Croatia, tourism and economic connections even now Croatian Airlines is using 2 Lufthansa Aircrafts in its fleet on lease for 3 years despite Lufthansa having hard time getting new aircrafts (1A320-240 and 1A319-124 where just delivered few months earlier to Lufthansa only to end up with Croatian Airlines on lease - lol)...
Slovenia is already experiencing low cost growth as a result of Easy Jet landing at Ljubljana airport, growth projections for Ljubljana airport this year are 20-25% on last year, all due to one low cost carrier...
German Wings flying to Zagreb from 5 major German cities throughout the week, - Croatia is probably biggest destination for German Wings if you look at there map fo destinations and number of new destinations, you'd ce how important is Croatia in there plans, lets hope once Croatian Air Market liberalised Ryan Air and many other low-cost airlines will ce the potential as German Wings do...
As for Croatian Airlines, they are bunch of twats, they still have same noumber of aircrafts they had in 2001, wtf, they suppose to order few more but it seem nobody knows how to at Croatian Airlines, lol...
Croatian Airport traffic Excepted at the end of 2005...
Zagreb - 1.55 million
Dubrovnik - 1.1 million
Split 880 000 - 1 million
Pula - 520 000
Zadar - 180 000
Rijeka - 120 000
Brac - 52 000
Osijek - 32 000
Losinj - 25 000
Total - 4.460 million passengers
I think best pre-war figure was 5.8 million in 1987 or 88...
OettingerCroat August 12th, 2005, 07:43 PM Croatian Airport traffic Excepted at the end of 2005...
Zagreb - 1.55 million
Dubrovnik - 1.1 million
Split 880 000 - 1 million
Pula - 520 000
Zadar - 180 000
Rijeka - 120 000
Brac - 52 000
Osijek - 32 000
Losinj - 25 000
Total - 4.460 million passengers
I think best pre-war figure was 5.8 million in 1987 or 88...
were there more pre-war air passengers due to the lack of highways? are ppl more often getting here with cars now?
cuz i was in Croatia this summer:
guys get this: Since the Split-Dubrovnik Motorway is being built and isnt currently usable, I had to take the Jadranska Magistrala. This road usually took me between 2 and 2.5 hours.... it took me 4 AND HALF HOURS TO GET THERE. SO many foreign tourists.
so im just saying road traffic may have increased and exceeded the air traveler difference between now and before the war.
mic of Orion August 12th, 2005, 07:47 PM were there more pre-war air passengers due to the lack of highways? are ppl more often getting here with cars now?
cuz i was in Croatia this summer:
guys get this: Since the Split-Dubrovnik Motorway is being built and isnt currently usable, I had to take the Jadranska Magistrala. This road usually took me between 2 and 2.5 hours.... it took me 4 AND HALF HOURS TO GET THERE. SO many foreign tourists.
so im just saying road traffic may have increased and exceeded the air traveler difference between now and before the war.
lol, NOOOOO,. Air traffic pre-war was primarily tourist oriented, I think of 5.8 million passengers about 5 million where foreign tourist and ppl coming to Croatia.. Most ppl went on seaside in cars as they do now, but than even more so...
PS, What I meant to say, numbers are going up now, soon they'll be better than pre war figures,
Example:
2006 Predictions - Mine:
Zagreb - 1.75 million
Dubrovnik - 1.25 million
Split - 1 million
Pula - 720 000
Zadar - 300 000
Rijeka - 150 000
Brac - 52 000
Osijek - 32 000
Losinj - 25 000
Total - 5.28 million passengers - almost pre-war and in 2007...
Zagreb - 2 million (absolute maximum capacity of current terminal)
Dubrovnik - 1.45 million (absolute maximum capacity of current terminal)
Split - 1.25 million (absolute maximum capacity of current terminal)
Pula - 870 000
Zadar - 520 000
Rijeka - 200 000
Brac - 100 000
Osijek - 52 000
Losinj - 30 000
total : 6.47 million
It means in 2007 Croatia would surpass its best pre-war figures... :) :cheers:
long foot August 12th, 2005, 08:37 PM Easy Jet and Ryan Air don't fly to Croatia, nor does any other low cost airline (Tyrolean is not low cost) other than German Wings, all of them have applied to fly but all of them where rejected and put on hold till mid 2006...
Visit these sites:
http://www.skyeurope.com (flies to Zadar, Split and Dubrovnik)
http://www.norwegian.no (Dubrovnik)
http://www.ltu.de/index.html (Dubrovnik and Split)
Why do they have Croatia included on their lists od destinations if they dont fly to Croatia?
mic of Orion August 12th, 2005, 08:44 PM you are right, but I think this is very new, perhaps started this year, cose I was on Sky Europe site about 3 months ago and they had no flights to Croatia...
LTU is not budget airlines it is Holliday Airline, it is cheaper than Lufthansa...
Norwegian not sure what they are, lol...
But you proved me wrong, lol
bubach_hlubach August 13th, 2005, 05:55 AM Maraska prodana Merkosu, koji je u vlasništvu Saponije
12.8.2005.
Hypo-Alpe-Adria Grupa odlučila je prodati većinski paket od 80 posto udjela u tvrtki za proizvodnju pića Maraska d.d. iz Zadra tvrtki Merkos, koja je pak u potpunom vlasništvu Saponije iz Osijeka.
Većinski vlasnik Saponije Osijek, kao i Koestlina Bjelovar, Brodomerkura Split te Mepasa iz Širokog Brijega je Mirko Grbešić :D, navodi se u priopćenju Hypo-Alpe-Adria Grupe.
Vlasnik 80 posto dionica bila je tvrtka Dalmatien Beteiligungsgsgsesllschaft, regionalna tvrtka kći Hypo Alpe-Adria-Consultantsa, koji će i nadalje u Maraski zadržati 20 posto udjela.
Predsjednik Nadzornog odbora Maraske i direktor Hypo Alpe-Adria-Consultantsa Gerhard Süss ističe da Hypo Alpe-Adria-Grupa dugoročno želi osigurati nastavak proizvodnje te 150 radnih mjesta u Maraski.
U priopćenju nije objavljena vrijednost transakcije niti vrijeme do kada bi trebala biti realizirana.
Hina
;)
:cheers:
bubach_hlubach August 14th, 2005, 05:26 AM REKORDAN POSJET NAJVEĆOJ TURISTIČKOJ ATRAKCIJI
Na dubrovačkim zidinama više od 700.000 turista
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Prihod od prodaje ulaznica ove godine će iznositi oko 15 milijuna kuna
DUBROVNIK-Prema podacima Društva prijatelja dubrovačke starine, u razdoblju od početka siječnja do kraja srpnja su 350.163 posjetitelja obišla i razgledala zidine i tvrđava koje opasuju povijesnu jezgru drevnoga grada, što je povećanje od 17 posto u odnosu na isto prošlogodišnje razdoblje. U cijeloj prošloj godini na gradske zidine se popelo 631.412 posjetitelja, a za ovu godinu se predviđa rekordan posjet od preko 700.000 turista. Usporedbe radi treba istaknuti da u prijeratnom razdoblju, kad je dubrovački turizam imao karakteristike izrazite masovnosti, nikad nije bio dostignut posjet 500.000 turista. Zbog tendencije daljnjeg povećanja posjeta toj najvećoj turističkoj atrakciji Društvo namjerava iduće godine uvesti i mogućnost obilaska zidina u večernjim satima, do 22 ili do 23 sata, s tim što će se instalirati osvjetljenje hodnih putova i postaviti table s oznakom preporučenog smijera kretanja kako na zidinama ne bi dolazilo do gužvi i zastoja. U Društvu zaključuju da bi se u doglednom razdoblju mogao ostvariti fenomenalan rekord od čak milijun posjetitelja godišnje!
Usporedo s većom brojnošću turističkih posjeta zidinama povećan je i prihod Društva iz tog osnova, s 13 milijuna kuna u prošloj na očekivanih više od 15 milijuna kuna u ovoj godini. Trenutačno ulaznice koštaju 35 kuna za odrasle i 10 kuna za djecu, dok se skupni obilazak u aranžmanu turističkih agencija naplaćuje 20 kuna po osobi. Pohvalno je što Društvo prijatelja dubrovačka starine više od 80 posto prihoda troši za održavanje gradskih zidina, Velike i Male Onofrijeve fontane, te drugih spomeničkih zdanja u Dubrovniku, a također zidina Stona i nekih drugih spomenika na poluotoku Pelješcu.
Dubrovčani i turisti ipak imaju jednu opravdanu zamjerku Društvu, s obzirom da se tijekom ljetnih mjeseci svakodnevno pred ulazom na gradske zidine kod crkve sv. Spasa stvaraju redovi turista dugi i po 30 metara, što ometa kretanje ostalih ljudi između glavne ulice Place i predjela Pile, jer nije istaknuta tabla s informacijom da postoje mnogo pogodniji ulazi na zidine kod crkve sv. Luke i kod Pomorskog muzeja. U Društvu nam je rečeno da će taj propust ispraviti – iduće godine. Začudo, nama se čini da bi se takva tabla mogla postaviti – već danas.
:)
bubach_hlubach August 14th, 2005, 05:47 AM VIJEST GODINE S KANTRIDE: NAKON PORINUĆA ŠESTOG TANKERA ZA NJEMAČKOG BRODOVLASNIKA NOVA POTVRDA DOBRE GRADNJE
Trećemajci ugovorili tri broda za 162 milijuna dolara
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Za njemačku kompaniju NSC iz Hamburga gradit će se tri broda za prijevoz automobila što predstavlja dugoočekivani izlazak na tržište složenijih i skupljih brodova. Jučer porinuti tanker »Avalon« s navoza je kliznuo četiri mjeseca prije roka
RIJEKA – Na jučerašnjoj radnoj svečanosti porinuća u »3. maju« dobili smo neslužbenu potvrdu najbolje ovogodišnje vijesti s Kantride. Trećemajci su, naime, upravo ugovorili gradnju tri broda za prijevoz automobila s njemačkom kompanijom iz Hamburga NSC, što predstavlja dugoočekivani izlazak riječkog brodogradilišta na tržište složenijih i skupljih brodova. Ugovor, čije se osnaženje očekuje ovih dana, po svim odrednicama može se smatrati najboljim u zadnjih 10 godina. Cijena tih brodova iznosi preko 54 milijuna dolara za svaki, dakle ukupno 162 milijuna, a čak 50 posto kupac je spreman platiti avansom. Ta startna uplata biti će u dolarima, a konačna isplata u eurima, čime se »3. maj« zaštitio od daljnje opasnosti klizanja američke valute. Inače, ugovoreni »carr carieri« po dimenzijama su slični brodovima kakve već nekoliko godina uspješno grade uljanikovci. Svaki će moći prevoziti čak 4.900 standardnih automobila. Prve dvije isporuke iz ovog najnovijeg ugovora kojem zeleno svjetlo još trebaju dati institucije Vlade RH planirane su u 2008., a treći brod početkom 2009. godine.
U međuvremenu riječko brodogradilište treba odraditi još dosta poslova. Između ostalih i posljednji, šesti tanker iz serije građene za njemačkog brodovlasnika Carla Büttnera koji je jučer porinut s navoza.
Pojačani ritam gradnje
Poznata serija »leptira«, s brodom »Aurelia« ili novogradnjom 689, nosivosti 23.400 tona, dužine 168 i širine 26,4 metra, time se približila konačnom dovršetku. U završnoj su, naime, fazi gradnje dva Büttnerova tankera čija se isporuka predviđa do kraja ove godine. S njemačkim tankerima koji su kod posljednje dvije gradnje i bitno projektno izmijenjena, vodeće kvarnersko brodogradilište ujedno će ispuniti i planirani ovogodišnji rezultat, isporuku ukupno pet brodova. Zadnji brod »Aurelia« na navozima se gradio pojačanim ritmom pa je jučerašnje porinuće odrađeno čak 6 mjeseci prije ugovorenog roka. Inače, peti brod iz iste serije, tanker »Avalon« s navoza je kliznuo četiri mjeseca ispred ugovornog roka, trenutno je u fazi opremanja, a isporuka se
predvidja u studenom. Mjesec kasnije u flotu njemačkog brodovlasnika kao 11. brod uplovit će i »Aurelia«.
Generalni direktor i suvlasnik kompanije Hartmut Schaeffers, izjavio je jučer kako su iznimno zadovoljni kvalitetom brodova izgrađenim na navozima Kantride na čemu je posebno zahvalio radnicima »3. maja«. Suradnja uglednog njemačkog brodovlasnika i riječkih brodograditelja započeta još 2000. godine i proširila se i u pomoračkom segmentu. Schaeffers nas je jučer podsjetio da svim brodovima izgrađenima u »3. maju« upravljaju hrvatski časnici, a oni će predvoditi posadu i na ove dvije posljednje novogradnje. Ukupno preko riječke agencije u vlasništvu Valtera Kende, čija je supruga Alba jučer i kumovala »Aureliji«, njemačka kompanija upošljava već blizu 150 naših pomoraca. Ukupna ugovorna vrijednost preostala dva Büttnerova tankera iznosi oko 55 milijuna dolara, no još se vode pregovori s brodovlasnikom o korekciji cijene zbog već opće poznatih tržišnih poremećaja.
Pregovori oko redefiniranja ugovora
Na izravan upit može li već sada reći koja će biti krajnja cijena ovih novogradnji na isporuci, Schaeffers se diplomatski ogradio, da su oni cijenu jasno definirali u ugovoru osnaženom prije dvije godine.
Tehnički direktor »3. maja« Kristijan Ivančić također nije htio komentirati tijek pregovora s brodovlasnicima, jer kako je istaknuo, oni se vode za svih 13 preostalih brodova u knjizi narudžbi. Potvrdio je, međutim, da su na njemačkim tankerima zabilježili gubitke, što je izravna posljedica velikog pada dolara od vremena ugovaranja do danas, ali i snažnog uvećanja cijene čelika. Poslije porinuća njemačkog, na isti je navoz položena kobilica za gradnju 695, inače prvi iz serije od čak 10 ugovorenih gradnji za vodeću kompaniju iz Letonije. Upravo ta velika serija zadaje i najveće glavobolje trećemajcima koji još uvijek vode tvrde pregovore s naručiteljem oko redefiniranja ugovora. Deset tankera Letonci su ugovorili po cijeni od 330 milijuna dolara, no troškovi gradnje i današnja tržišna vrijednost takvih tankera za najmanje 30 posto prelaze ugovorenu svotu. Premda nitko iz uprave jučer nije htio reći u kom pravcu idu pregovori, neslužbeno čujemo da će vjerojatno doći do smanjenja serije kako bi u »rezervirano« vrijeme za izgradnju Letonaca, ubacili novougovorene brodove za prijevoz automobila.
Nevenka HORVAT
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OettingerCroat August 14th, 2005, 06:46 AM Two killed in Hungarian plane crash in Croatia
ZAGREB, Aug 13 (Reuters) - A small Hungarian plane crashed in central Croatia overnight killing two people on board and a similar aircraft was missing, Croatian state radio reported on Saturday.
It said those killed were both Hungarian citizens.
The planes were among eight Hungarian aircraft that flew from the Croatian capital Zagreb, the radio quoted police sources as saying. Six landed safely in southern Croatia.
The radio, which said there had been heavy fog in central Croatia, described the aircraft as "sports planes" but did not elaborate.
Witnesses near the town of Rakovica, some 140 km (85 miles) south of Zagreb, reported seeing a plane hit a television mast.
The radio said police were searching for the missing plane.
Reuters___________
not good guys, seriously not good...
OettingerCroat August 14th, 2005, 06:49 AM Croatia: S&P affirms Croatia's 'BBB' credit rating, outlook stable
15:22 - 12 August 2005 - Ratings agency Standard & Poor's affirmed Croatia's 'BBB' long-term foreign currency credit rating and kept its outlook stable, citing strong economic and structural reforms.
Moreover, S&P said it was keeping its 'A-3' short-term foreign currency rating as well as the 'BBB+' long-term and 'A-2' short-term local currency sovereign credit ratings in place.
The ratings on Croatia are supported by its strong record of economic and structural reform over the past few years, as well as the policy anchor provided by European Union integration and the economy's good growth prospects, S&P sovereign credit analyst, Remy Salters said.
However, the ratings are constrained by the high, although stabilizing, private sector net external debt burden, the need for further structural reforms, as well as significant reliance on the performance of the tourism sector, Salters added.
A further upgrade for Croatia would require more fiscal consolidation and sustained progress with structural reforms, Salters also said.
esseker August 14th, 2005, 08:58 PM Maybe a year ago there was some stuff in the newspaper about Ryan Air comming to the Osijek Airport but after that - no more news.
It would be so great if they would come to Osijek because I don't think the Airport is doing very well with the expensive Croatia Airlines. Through the year there are only maybe 2 plains weekly (to zagreb and maybe Split, I would have to check).
I know the Airport is still working because of the freight traffic. Every week a Russian made gigantic airplane comes there carrying fish from Africa for some Italian firm (?).
I wanna fly by Ryan Air and travel by HST! :soon:
long foot August 14th, 2005, 10:33 PM Two killed in Hungarian plane crash in Croatia
ZAGREB, Aug 13 (Reuters) - A small Hungarian plane crashed in central Croatia overnight killing two people on board and a similar aircraft was missing, Croatian state radio reported on Saturday.
It said those killed were both Hungarian citizens.
The planes were among eight Hungarian aircraft that flew from the Croatian capital Zagreb, the radio quoted police sources as saying. Six landed safely in southern Croatia.
The radio, which said there had been heavy fog in central Croatia, described the aircraft as "sports planes" but did not elaborate.
Witnesses near the town of Rakovica, some 140 km (85 miles) south of Zagreb, reported seeing a plane hit a television mast.
The radio said police were searching for the missing plane.
Reuters___________
not good guys, seriously not good...
Today police found 2nd Hungarian plane which was lost in the storm 2 days ago. It crushed somewhere close Plitvice too. So, we have 2 crushed plains and 4 dead :(
A što reći, kad budale nisu slušale naputke zračne kontrole u Zagrebu da ne lete, jer se sprema oluja? :bash:
SinCity August 15th, 2005, 08:32 AM Tourism along Adriatic is continuing to grow
The Associated Press, Reuters, Bloomberg News, Agence France-Presse
MONDAY, AUGUST 15, 2005
ZAGREB, Croatia
Tourism along Adriatic is continuing to grow
Croatia's tourism industry is riding high this year, with travelers flocking to a country that was locked in bitter interethnic war only a decade ago.
Around 4.5 million foreign tourists visited Croatia's Adriatic coast in the first seven months of 2005, nine percent more than in the same period last year. In July alone, the number of foreign tourists increased 13 percent compared with the same month last year, and the number of Croatians touring their own country rose 18 percent.
The government's goal is to have 11 million tourists in 2010 and to increase the industry's contribution to the economy to 29 percent of gross domestic product, compared with 21 percent last year. (AFP)
agramer August 15th, 2005, 01:34 PM Check this out... Links to airport traffic stats for three of our biggest airports...
http://www.zagreb-airport.hr/page_view.php?rid=142
http://www.airport-dubrovnik.hr/m/statistike.htm
http://www.split-airport.hr/statistike_hr.htm
Check out the number of passengers for july on Dubrovnik airport... :runaway:
2.5 times more passengers than july 2002 and 25000 passengers more than initialy planned for this year... we need to reconstruct our airports ASAP... they are streched to their limits (and above). My father lives in Cavtat so I'm a frequent guest of Cilipi airport... I really hate to think what it looks like when 200000 people storm through it in one month... :ohno:
AstroBoy August 15th, 2005, 01:54 PM Check this out... Links to airport traffic stats for three of our biggest airports...
http://www.zagreb-airport.hr/page_view.php?rid=142
http://www.airport-dubrovnik.hr/m/statistike.htm
http://www.split-airport.hr/statistike_hr.htm
Check out the number of passengers for july on Dubrovnik airport... :runaway:
2.5 times more passengers than july 2002 and 25000 passengers more than initialy planned for this year... we need to reconstruct our airports ASAP... they are streched to their limits (and above). My father lives in Cavtat so I'm a frequent guest of Cilipi airport... I really hate to think what it looks like when 200000 people storm through it in one month... :ohno:
You are right in saying that. Tourism numbers are going to keep rising sharply, however most of the increases will be a result of air travel since Croatia is being heavily promoted outside of Europe. They need to increase the capacity of all airports before it becomes too disruptive. Looks like Dubrovnik airport has again far exceeded expectations.
mic of Orion August 15th, 2005, 02:12 PM Check this out... Links to airport traffic stats for three of our biggest airports...
http://www.zagreb-airport.hr/page_view.php?rid=142
http://www.airport-dubrovnik.hr/m/statistike.htm
http://www.split-airport.hr/statistike_hr.htm
Check out the number of passengers for july on Dubrovnik airport... :runaway:
2.5 times more passengers than july 2002 and 25000 passengers more than initialy planned for this year... we need to reconstruct our airports ASAP... they are streched to their limits (and above). My father lives in Cavtat so I'm a frequent guest of Cilipi airport... I really hate to think what it looks like when 200000 people storm through it in one month... :ohno:
Split is in worst situation, it is only capable handling 1 million passengers and it looks as is this is the year it will reach its max, Almost all Airports in Croatia require doubling in Size, exception being, Rijeka Airport which has capacity of 500 750 000 passengers a year…
Zagreb will surpass its designed capacity this year and its max capacity of 2 million is expected in 2007, by than Zagreb better have new terminal (in construction phase at least) or you’ll get ppl avoid Zagreb cose of mess and traffic problems.
Dubrovnik needs to expand asp to, terminal has only capacity of 1.5 million and it should be doubled for 3-4 million passengers…
Split Airport Terminal needs to be tripled or altogether new Airport terminal should be built on other location where there is more space…
Zadar is not on critical list but it too will require expansion with in 5 years…
agramer August 15th, 2005, 02:19 PM Mic... i agree, but our adriatic airports are specific because you have 15000 passengers in january and 180000 in july... when you say that an airport has a traffic capacity of 1,5 mill a year, that estimation doesn't include that kind of difference... it's considered that yearly traffic should be (to some point) evenly distributed by moths...
EDIT: In conclusion... Split and Dubrovnik should start building new terminals tommorow if not today...
lindenthaler August 15th, 2005, 06:08 PM Hey guys i made a thread with infrastructure situation in Sava-Danube region in this part of Europe, there are images of Croatian motorways and construction of part of it to SCG border ( E-70 ) enjoy :)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=245855
long foot August 15th, 2005, 07:35 PM Zagreb will surpass its designed capacity this year and its max capacity of 2 million is expected in 2007, by than Zagreb better have new terminal (in construction phase at least) or you’ll get ppl avoid Zagreb cose of mess and traffic problems.
Maybe you didnt know that best year of Zagreb airport was 1979. – 1,9 million passangers ;)
mic of Orion August 15th, 2005, 11:13 PM Maybe you didnt know that best year of Zagreb airport was 1979. – 1,9 million passangers ;)
Yes I did LF, this why I say max 2 million, Airport was built to handle 1.5 million but cose of no money, new terminal never got built, and since 1979 terminal stagnated, never got higher passenger numbers than its max designed capacity. Today, given the fact Croatian Airlines uses Zagreb as its main hub it is important for new terminal to get built as soon as this is possible as many other airlines would be squeezed out of slot at the Zagreb Airport, I think there is max 100 slots per day or 36 000 slots per year (current terminal)... (Slot - right to land and park at Airport), future terminal might have more...
Currently at Zagreb Airport - about 20 slots go to military and government requirements, and reaming 80 are for Airports civilian traffic, currently 50 slots are used by civilian traffic as daily average through out the year, during summer months this average is about 80 but in winter it falls down to 40...
Now you calculate how much capacity there is at present?
January through to March are slow months, for all airports in Croatia...
Zagreb handles less than 100k in passenger numbers in these months, Dubrovnik less than 20k and Split averages about 25-30k.. But from April onwards all Airports in Croatia experience significant rise... Some are able to cope with it, some barley do so, Zagreb is one of them, and when I say it is approaching its max, than I do it with a statement I normally can back up... ;)
bubach_hlubach August 16th, 2005, 05:50 AM Gradit će se tristo novih obiteljskih hotela
Svi mali hotelijeri ove godine bilježe rast prometa; većina će ih raditi više od dvjesto dana
Trenutačno ima čak 300 zainteresiranih poduzetnika koji žele sagraditi obiteljski, odnosno mali hotel, ili postojeće apartmane prenamijeniti u obiteljske hotele. Rezultat je to analize koju je u zadnja tri mjeseca napravila Nacionalna udruga obiteljskih i malih hotela. Udruga okuplja vlasnike 95 hotela. Ukupno u Hrvatskoj radi oko 200 malih hotela, a 30 objekata je u gradnji.
»Do ulaska naše države u EU trebamo imati ili bar započeti gradnju od 800 do tisuću obiteljskih i malih hotela« tvrdi Šime Klarić, predsjednik spomenute udruge.
Na području Splitsko-dalmatinske županije svojedobno se rodila ideja o osnivanju udruge što će okupiti vlasnike malih i obiteljskih hotela. U toj županiji posluje gotovo 50 hotela okupljenih u Udruzi.
Prema Klarićevim riječima, svi mali hotelijeri ove godine bilježe rast prometa. Većina hotela radit će više od dvjesto dana. Rujan i listopad navode se kao iznimno dobra razdoblja za male hotelijere.
Međutim, intencija malih hotelijera je poslovati tijekom cijele godine (za razliku od velikih koji se zadovoljavaju sa šest, sedam mjeseci). Mnogi i danas rade cijele godine mada, u globalu, još uvijek nije stvoren dovoljno kvalitetan proizvod koji bi to opravdao.
Prosječan hrvatski obiteljski hotel ima od 20 do 25 soba, 12 do 15 zaposlenih i tri zvjezdice s tendencijom rasta na četiri. Gotovo ni jedan novoizgrađeni objekt nema manje od četiri zvjezdice.
Svaki mali hotel razvio je dodatnu ponudu: avanturistički tip turizma (Trilj, Starigrad Paklenica), seminari poslovnih skupina (Karlovac), izletnički programi (Murter), vrhunski gastronomski doživljaj (primjerice Medulin).
Osoblje u malim obiteljskim hotelima posvećenije je gostima od onog u hotelskim mastodontima. Hotelijerstvo obiteljskog tipa svjetski je trend. Na kraju, na takvoj vrsti ponude izgrađeni su i svjetski turistički giganti, naši susjedi, Austrija i Italija.
Zanimljivo je da gosti u malim, obiteljskim hotelima borave prosječno sedam dana, da se rijetko vraćaju na isto mjesto, ali da zato hotel izdašno preporučuju znancima.
»Sada je najvažnije investirati u kvalitetu, u edukaciju ljudi. Iako smo gostoljubiv narod, moramo se educirati u interpretaciji hrane, kulture, doživljaja.. to je ono što turisti traže. Ova je godina prekretnica hrvatskog turizma, pogotovo u Dalmaciji. Trenutačno smo hit, sigurna i lako dostupna destinacija, a u odnosu cijene i kvalitete zauzimamo najviše svjetske pozicije«, tvrdi Šime Klarić. Ističe kako upravo ta dobra ovosezonska pozicija zahtijeva, da bi se održali visoki standardi, zahtijeva nove investicije.
Davor Verković
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Ehh, what our govt should do : strickly prevent all constructions of new apartments that usualy end up serving as cheap tourist facilities (as we all know many of these work illegal). While already existing apartment buildings (room renting ones) should be turned into small family hotels! Taking these steps would result with a drastic decrease of 'black' economy in tourism, so general tourist offer and standards would become a whole lot better and more professional.
:cheers:
SinCity August 16th, 2005, 06:56 AM I agree Bubach. One of the best things you can offer to the tourism market is more diversity in accomodation and little boutique hotels are one of the best ways to achieve this. It personalises peoples holiday experience and they are more likely to return year after year if they happen to like their place of accomodation. Large hotels are great for prominence but small family hotels give the market that bit more atmosphere.
I've seen a few that have opened in the last year and they look chic modern and ultra cozy. :) Plus the profits and money is likely to stay in Croatia and not end up in the coffers of a large global hotel chain.
SinCity August 16th, 2005, 07:39 AM Croatia calls for cooperation with Iran in railroad system
TEHRAN, Aug. 15 (MNA) — In his recent visit with managing director of Iran’s Pars Wagon Production Company, representatives of Croatian rail industries companies called for the two countries’ cooperation in the railroad transport system sector.
The official, on behalf of his accompanying delegation announced Croatian locomotive producing companies’ readiness for manufacturing DHL-100 locomotives, rebuilding, overhauling and modernization of the existing electric and GM locomotives currently existing in Iran as well as establishing a passenger electric train to commute between Tehran and Mashhad, in Khorasan Province.
It was also decided that Croatia would provide and undertake the required equipments for the construction of 100 kilometers of the electric railroad as well as overhauling the electric trains commuting in Tabriz-Jolfa railroad; the cities are located in the northwestern part of the country.
Croatia has made significant advances in railroad industries. :)
http://www.mehrnews.ir/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=218730
bubach_hlubach August 16th, 2005, 08:00 AM I agree Bubach. One of the best things you can offer to the tourism market is more diversity in accomodation and little boutique hotels are one of the best ways to achieve this. It personalises peoples holiday experience and they are more likely to return year after year if they happen to like their place of accomodation. Large hotels are great for prominence but small family hotels give the market that bit more atmosphere.
I've seen a few that have opened in the last year and they look chic modern and ultra cozy. :) Plus the profits and money is likely to stay in Croatia and not end up in the coffers of a large global hotel chain.
Yeah, exactly! Also as the article says we should not learn from Spain, but from Italy, and especially Austria where every single village has that kind of accomodation. Not just that the tourist market would be only more diverse, than everybody would benefit from it, including those stubborn and greedy apartment owners that are supposed to be alpha and omega of this business.
Every year we hear the same stories over and over; all hotels are full, but private (apartment) accomodations are half empty, their season lasts a month or two, if that much. Many people are still blind to see that most tourists are looking for hotels, not ugly and uniformed apartments; this crap they can get everywhere for half or third the price (Tunis, Turkey etc)
Croatia associates itself with high standard and quality tourist destinations -quality is our slogan, not quantity. We dont want mass tourism, okay, cool. Why is there a serious shortage of hotels then? First it was ZIMER FREI (free rooms - old good times :D), now it's apartments ( what a progress, huh? :D), i sure hope the next trend is finally gonna be - small hotels :master:
:cheers:
bubach_hlubach August 16th, 2005, 08:07 AM Croatia calls for cooperation with Iran in railroad system
TEHRAN, Aug. 15 (MNA) — In his recent visit with managing director of Iran’s Pars Wagon Production Company, representatives of Croatian rail industries companies called for the two countries’ cooperation in the railroad transport system sector.
The official, on behalf of his accompanying delegation announced Croatian locomotive producing companies’ readiness for manufacturing DHL-100 locomotives, rebuilding, overhauling and modernization of the existing electric and GM locomotives currently existing in Iran as well as establishing a passenger electric train to commute between Tehran and Mashhad, in Khorasan Province.
It was also decided that Croatia would provide and undertake the required equipments for the construction of 100 kilometers of the electric railroad as well as overhauling the electric trains commuting in Tabriz-Jolfa railroad; the cities are located in the northwestern part of the country.
Croatia has made significant advances in railroad industries. :)
http://www.mehrnews.ir/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=218730
wow, where or how did you find this article ? :)
Iran should rename this 100 km railroad to Chrivat or Hrbat, or whatever those theories say lol :D
:jk:
:cheers:
SinCity August 16th, 2005, 08:10 AM Yes, I think we should seek some sort of permanent arrangement with our former motherland. :D
esseker August 16th, 2005, 09:10 AM That news about the co-operation with Iran is great! I hope it will be a profitable co-op for both lands :)
eh a što se tiče naše "pradomovine" :) , čitao sam knjigu "Genetičko porijeklo Hrvata" koja kaže, da su Hrvati jedan od rijetkih naroda koji ne potječu "od negdje", "od nekog", već da smo mi autohtoni narod!
Postoji taj haplotip gena Eu7 koji je nazvan Hrvatskim genom (to su tipovi gena koji se nikada ili jako sporo mijenjaju pa je moguće utvrditi porijeklo). Naime, postojale su teorije o porijeklu Hrvata iz Irana, o Slavenskom porijeklu, o Germanskom porijeklu i o autohtonom porijeklu.
Ispitivanja kažu da mi imamo najviše upravo tog Eu7 koji je potekao negdje s područja današnjeg Izraela (oko 40%) i u Europu stigao kao drugi puno prije "stoljeća 7."! Inače zapadna Europa ima najviši udio tzv "baskijskog gena", a bliski istok (e sad da znam i ime :bash: ...) ima visok udio nekog trećeg gena.
Zanimljivo je da iako nas svrstravaju u Slavene mi imamo tek nekih 30ak % slavenskog haplotipa gena dok najviše slavenskog gena imaju, pazi sad! - Mađari!!
Iako je postojala i teorija o germanskom porijeklu, nju bi trebalo performulirati u "Hrvatsko porijeklo Njemaca"!!! Ispitivanja su pokazala da Nijemci imaju oko 30% našeg Eu7 haplotipa gena!
Once again we kick World's ass! :cheers1:
long foot August 16th, 2005, 09:11 AM Croatia calls for cooperation with Iran in railroad system
TEHRAN, Aug. 15 (MNA) — In his recent visit with managing director of Iran’s Pars Wagon Production Company, representatives of Croatian rail industries companies called for the two countries’ cooperation in the railroad transport system sector.
The official, on behalf of his accompanying delegation announced Croatian locomotive producing companies’ readiness for manufacturing DHL-100 locomotives, rebuilding, overhauling and modernization of the existing electric and GM locomotives currently existing in Iran as well as establishing a passenger electric train to commute between Tehran and Mashhad, in Khorasan Province.
It was also decided that Croatia would provide and undertake the required equipments for the construction of 100 kilometers of the electric railroad as well as overhauling the electric trains commuting in Tabriz-Jolfa railroad; the cities are located in the northwestern part of the country.
Croatia has made significant advances in railroad industries. :)
http://www.mehrnews.ir/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=218730
Sincity, do you read Iraninan newspapers? :D
BTW Iran and Croatia are friends from our indenpendance :cheers1:
OettingerCroat August 16th, 2005, 10:36 PM im not questioning anybody, but aisde from the purchase of those Bombardiers, what other significant advances have we made?
bubach_hlubach August 16th, 2005, 10:59 PM Varaždinsko gospodarsko čudo
Više nema neiskorištenih čestica u varaždinskoj Slobodnoj zoni, najvećoj domaćoj proizvodnoj greenfield investiciji, a kako raste interes inozemnih tvrtki, otvarat će se nove zone u obližnjim općinama. Godišnji izvoz domaćih i inozemnih poduzeća, korisnika Slobodne zone, koji će zaposliti 3500 ljudi, premašivat će 500 milijuna eura
http://www.tportal.hr/2005/07/14/0092007.19.jpg
Ako ne iskrsne nešto nepredviđeno do kraja 2008. godine nezaposlenost u Varaždinskoj županiji bit će ispod europskog prosjeka. Za hrvatske prilike to je ravno znanstvenoj fantastici, a mnogo toga ukazuje da će se ove smjele prognoze i realizirati, ponajprije zahvaljujući otvaranju novih radnih mjesta u Slobodnoj zoni Varaždin, trenutno najvećoj proizvodnoj, izvozno orijentiranoj greenfield investiciji u Hrvatskoj.
Potpunom izgradnjom svih proizvodnih kapaciteta zaposlit će se najmanje 3500 ljudi, a još barem 500 će posao dobiti u poduzetničkim zonama obližnjih općina Kneginec Gornji i Trnovec Bartolovečki. Istodobno bi godišnji izvoz korisnika Slobodne zone trebao premašiti 500 milijuna eura. Stoga i nije neobično da se za hrvatsko gospodarsko čudo, u mnogome slično onom irskom, poprilično priča i u inozemstvu, pa Austrijska radiotelevizija snima reportažu koju će ORF odaslati u svijet.
'Nije ništa neobično u tome. Za varaždinsku Slobodnu zonu mnogi u Europi već znaju. O tome svjedoči i činjenica da više nemamo na raspolaganju nijednu neiskorištenu česticu, a interes inozemnih tvrtki za ulaganje u hrvatsko gospodarstvo kroz osiguranje mjesta u varaždinskoj Slobodnoj zoni je iz dana u dan u porastu. Stoga ćemo se okrenuti otvaranju novih lokacija kako bi iskoristili ovo veliko zanimanje za nas', objašnjava Slobodan Mikac, direktor varaždinske Slobodne zone i potvrđuje da će Varaždin možda jedini u Hrvatskoj dosegnuti razinu zaposlenosti znatno iznad svih zemalja u tranziciji.
Prvi investitor u Slobodnu zonu je njemačka tvrtka BHS Corrugadet, proizvođač strojeva za proizvodnju kartona s iznosom od 10 milijuna eura s 200 zaposlenih i godišnjim izvozom od 20 milijuna eura. Najveći investitor je austrijska tvrtka Boxmark Leather, jedan od najvećih proizvođača kožnih sjedišta za ugledne proizvođače automobila, primjerice Audi, Porsche, BMW, kao i za zrakoplove serije Airbus. Ova tvrtka već sada zapošljava više od 700, a u konačnici će se zaposliti oko 2500 radnika, koji će ostvarivati godišnji izvoz između 350 i 400 milijuna eura.
Najveći hrvatski investitor u Slobodnoj zoni je varaždinska tvrtka Gumiimpex koja će na oko 60 tisuća četvornih metara izgraditi najmoderniju tvornicu za reciklažu starih autoguma, odnosno proizvodnju gumenog granulata za izvoz. Riječ je o tvornici obitelji Kirić u kojoj je već zaposleno 140 djelatnika, a u novom proizvodnom kapacitetu posao očekuje još stotinjak radnika. Uz njih su u Slobodnu zonu investirali još četiri inozemne i isto toliko domaćih tvrtki.
Tako će talijanska tvrtka Marchetti Giovani u prvoj fazi proizvodnje strojeva za građevinske elemente i stiropor zaposliti oko 150 radnika, švicarska tvrtka Hoegger će proizvoditi strojeve za prehrambenu industriju, a kada krene puna proizvodnja zaposlit će oko 200 radnika. Tu su i poduzeća OBO Bettermann, Work-Ing, kao i Zrinski AG, njemačka tvrtka čiji su vlasnici članovi hrvatske obitelji Zrinski, pa zatim domaće 'snage' Oprema-Intercom, Meteor Grupa i Matrex-Trade.
Sve u svemu, Varaždinska županija je na najboljem putu da postane pravo malo gospodarsko čudo. Za 'recepturu' su zainteresirane mnoge druge hrvatske sredine, ali i one iz inozemstva.
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Hmm, kaj reci na ovo? Ocito je da nekima gospodarstvo i prosperitet lokalne zajednice stoji daleko ispred politickih igrica i mucki, koje mogu posluziti kao razonoda, ali tek nakon KVALITETNO obavljenog posla! :)
Takodjer skidam kapu Ivanu Cehoku na svemu kaj je ucinio za svoj grad.
Da je bar Zagrebu jedan takav Ivan Cehok umjesto onog morona Banditica :bash:
:cheers:
gwinczlav August 16th, 2005, 11:43 PM ^^Congratulations to Varaždin, it's such a good news.
SinCity August 17th, 2005, 02:41 AM ^^^^ Congratulations to Varaždin! Thats one very smart city government that the rest of Croatia can learn from. Its no wonder the free trade zones are being applied in other cities too. Hopefully they can replicate the same outstanding success they are having in Varaždin. :yes:
SinCity August 17th, 2005, 02:44 AM That news about the co-operation with Iran is great! I hope it will be a profitable co-op for both lands :)
eh a što se tiče naše "pradomovine" :) , čitao sam knjigu "Genetičko porijeklo Hrvata" koja kaže, da su Hrvati jedan od rijetkih naroda koji ne potječu "od negdje", "od nekog", već da smo mi autohtoni narod!
Postoji taj haplotip gena Eu7 koji je nazvan Hrvatskim genom (to su tipovi gena koji se nikada ili jako sporo mijenjaju pa je moguće utvrditi porijeklo). Naime, postojale su teorije o porijeklu Hrvata iz Irana, o Slavenskom porijeklu, o Germanskom porijeklu i o autohtonom porijeklu.
Ispitivanja kažu da mi imamo najviše upravo tog Eu7 koji je potekao negdje s područja današnjeg Izraela (oko 40%) i u Europu stigao kao drugi puno prije "stoljeća 7."! Inače zapadna Europa ima najviši udio tzv "baskijskog gena", a bliski istok (e sad da znam i ime :bash: ...) ima visok udio nekog trećeg gena.
Zanimljivo je da iako nas svrstravaju u Slavene mi imamo tek nekih 30ak % slavenskog haplotipa gena dok najviše slavenskog gena imaju, pazi sad! - Mađari!!
Iako je postojala i teorija o germanskom porijeklu, nju bi trebalo performulirati u "Hrvatsko porijeklo Njemaca"!!! Ispitivanja su pokazala da Nijemci imaju oko 30% našeg Eu7 haplotipa gena!
Once again we kick World's ass! :cheers1:
Thats pretty interesting. Is this from the National Geographic research thats been happening for the past few years in which they are mapping the genes of all nationalities. Does anyone know of websites looking at this?
mic of Orion August 17th, 2005, 04:23 AM ^^^^ Congratulations to Varaždin! Thats one very smart city government that the rest of Croatia can learn from. Its no wonder the free trade zones are being applied in other cities too. Hopefully they can replicate the same outstanding success they are having in Varaždin. :yes:
about 2 weeks ago on BBC News 24, they showed report about place called Ogulin (*they where talking about Croatian EU entry) anyways they showed this small town about 10 000 souls, and it is doing great business after the war destruction they showed around stuff and talked to few ppl about the situation in the place, they said unemployment there is only 8% and all due to the low tax zones established, they driven across to Bosnia a well to show Bihac and than got back to Croatia and showed Ogulin and Zadar...
It was great show cose it was showing positive side of Croatian economic transformation...
Great news about Varazdin, I think city is doing great, I think Cakovec is another great place which is doing great business...
:cheers:
SinCity August 17th, 2005, 05:21 AM Croatia in the next 2 years will be purchasing 8-12 new fighter aircrafts in order to ugrade the airforce.
There are 2 options under heavy consideration, either the US F-16 or Swedish Grippen JAS 39.
So far the favourite is the Swedish Grippen aircraft based on the fact that the Czech and Hungarian airforce have ordered these. This will make Croatia's airforce consistent to those of its neighbours who are a part of NATO and Croatia is in discussions to join NATO in the near future.
The F-16 are a minor favourite only because Croatian pilots have been trained to use them.
One other highly interesting thing. The Croatian government has an offset clause based on the fact that if Croatia makes a huge capital expenditure with any country, it is expected that the country from which the goods are being purchased must therefore make a similar large purchase in goods and products from Croatia or must be willing to make a large investment into Croatian industry. Pretty good IMO and very smart. :yes:
The Croatian government is working on a 10 year plan to reconstruct all areas of the Croatian armed forces. Full details will hopefully be available later this year.
http://www.vjesnik.hr/html/2005/08/17/najava.jpg
Hrvatska kupuje nove borbene avione Grippen ili F-16 (http://www.vjesnik.hr/html/2005/08/17/Clanak.asp?r=tem&c=1)
SinCity August 17th, 2005, 05:42 AM Many Croatian construction firms are building strong reputations across Europe and beyond due to their expertise and reputation.
Many are currently working on huge projects in Germany, Russia, Bosnia, Slovenia, Czech Republic, etc.
For example Split's Konstructor firm is likely to win a big construction project ahead of many local Serbian firms at Belgrade's airport and also a large motorway job in Montenegro has been signed. ;)
Prodor hrvatskih graditelja u Europu
http://www.vjesnik.hr/html/2005/08/17/gradjev9.jpg
Hrvati vani imaju izvanredan rejting i slove kao korektni i pošteni radnici. Zato nas se i angažira, kaže Vladimir Kovač iz Industrogradnje
ZAGREB - Hrvatske građevinske tvrtke u posljednje su vrijeme zabilježile poslovni procvat u inozemstvu, posebice u zemljama bivše Jugoslavije: Konstruktor inženjering u SCG-u, Industrogradnja u Rusiji i Njemačkoj, Viadukt i Tehnika također u Njemačkoj, Cesta-Varaždin u Sloveniji...
Splitski Konstruktor inženjering u najužem je krugu kandidata za obnovu beogradske zračne luke. Osim toga, za nekoliko bi dana trebali dobiti potvrdu crnogorske vlade da su dobili na natječaju za izgradnju spojnice autoceste Kolašin-Mateševo u Crnoj Gori. Taj projekt vrijedan je oko osam milijuna eura, a pritom se nadaju kako će dobiti priliku i da sudjeluju u izgradnji nove autoceste Podgorica-Beograd.
Industrogradnja već godinama odlično posluje u Ruskoj Federaciji i Njemačkoj. Još 2002. godine u tim su zemljama ugovorili poslove u vrijednosti višoj od 93 milijuna kuna. U Industrogradnji smatraju da je razlog tako velikom poslu nestabilnost ruskog i njemačkog tržišta te povećana konkurencija. A intenzivna obrada tržišta rezultirala je osiguranjem kontinuiteta zaposlenosti Industrogradnje na inozemnom tržištu.
Cesta-Varaždin je stekla ugled i osvojila tržište u susjednoj Sloveniji. Isto tako, brojne su manje tvrtke koje rade diljem regije i inozemstva.
I za izgradnju budućega koridora 5C, koji će se protezati 330 kilometara dugom trasom Budimpešta-Osijek-Sarajevo-Ploče, predviđa se da će se uposliti velik broj hrvatskih tvrtki. Autocesta na tom koridoru bit će najvažniji putni pravac u BiH i najkraća putna komunikacija između srednje Europe i Jadrana.
Iako poslijeratno razdoblje nije bilo baš blistavo za hrvatske građevinare, očito je da sada doživljavaju poslovni boom. Razlozi ovom naglom širenju izvan hrvatskih granica možebitno leže u uspješnoj izgradnji autoceste Zagreb-Split, koja je svojom kvalitetom i brzom izradom ipak podigla ugled hrvatskih građevinskih tvrtki i radnika, te potvrdila njihovu kvalitetu i pouzdanost. Tako je i Bechtel, građevinska tvrtka iz SAD-a, koja je također sudjelovala u izgradnji autoceste, bila iznimno zadovoljna hrvatskim radnicima koji su radili za nju te navodno čak razmišljaju o angažiranju istih na trenutačnim radovima Bechtela u Rumunjskoj.
U Ministarstvu mora, turizma, prometa i razvitka kazali su Vjesniku da ne mogu kvalitetno odgovoriti na upit koji su razlozi hrvatskoga građevinarskog procvata u inozemstvu, ali su naglasili: »Možemo biti ponosni što se uspješno probijaju u regiji«.
Vladimir Kovač, direktor u Industrogradnji inženjeringa za investitore u inozemstvu, građevinski procvat prema inozemstvu vidi kao logičnu posljedicu, jer smatra kako svi građevinari razmišljaju barem pet godina unaprijed. Mora se znati što će se raditi kad domaće tržište »presuši« i zato se okreću inozemstvu.
»Hrvati vani imaju izvanredan rejting i slovimo kao korektni i pošteni radnici. Zato nas se cijeni i angažira«, rekao je Kovač i dodao: »Uostalom, imamo cestu od 1000 kilometara i tri od deset najboljih mostova na svijetu«. Kovač dodaje kako se nikad nije dogodilo da ne ispune ugovorne obveze. Upravo tu korektnost i povjerenje, kako kaže Kovač, investitori iznimno cijene. Hrvatske građevinske tvrtke, smatra on, jako kvalitetno odrađuju posao, a i hrvatski proizvodi su kvalitetniji.
»Jedino u čemu smo "kratki" - proizvodnja nam nije stimulirana i dosta smo skupi, ali to je unutarnji problem«, rekao je Kovač.
Bojan Terglav
http://www.vjesnik.hr/html/2005/08/17/Clanak.asp?r=unu&c=2
OettingerCroat August 17th, 2005, 06:55 AM i like the Saab Grippen. It is more durable, more versatile (fits more kinds of weapons of weapons); can take off from fields; is much smaller (i.e. can be hidden more easily during a war); has a higher payload capacity; one plane provides the information for 4 total planes, so that one plane can find enemy positions while the other 3 target/shoot at them; takes less length to take off/land, etc. it's just a far superior aircraft.
long foot August 17th, 2005, 09:30 AM Takodjer skidam kapu Ivanu Cehoku na svemu kaj je ucinio za svoj grad.
Da je bar Zagrebu jedan takav Ivan Cehok umjesto onog morona Banditica :bash:
:cheers:
Čehok je zakon! :okay: Osim što je dobar gradonačelnik, još je i filozof ;) :D
esseker August 17th, 2005, 09:41 AM Thats pretty interesting. Is this from the National Geographic research thats been happening for the past few years in which they are mapping the genes of all nationalities. Does anyone know of websites looking at this?
This research is from a Croatian scientist. The book is called Genetičko podrijetlo Hrvata and the author is prof. Ivan Jurić.
I also found an interesting article on the internet about this subject by another author but with the same facts about our genetic history.
http://www.croatia.ch/tjedan/041204_1.php
GOOOOO Varaždin! :)
long foot August 17th, 2005, 11:10 AM That book is bullshit, racial theories are the most stupid thing in the world, I am not bothered much with idea of being Slav or Iranian or Ilirian or anything else. I speak Slavic language and that is what makes me being Slav, nothing more. I had a friend who was black (his father was from Africa, his mother was Croatian), but he was Croat couse he lived here and spoke Croatian and felt as Croat.
No offence to anyone, but only stupid people are occupied with this "genetic origin" crap.
Walter Wolf August 17th, 2005, 01:27 PM on the topic of great croatian exports....
has anyone heard of a company doing construction services outside croatia such as Iran/Tehran, Chez, Moscow ?
long foot August 17th, 2005, 01:33 PM I believe Industrogradnja has a lot of work in Russia.
Walter Wolf August 17th, 2005, 01:38 PM cm-expert
lindenthaler August 17th, 2005, 01:41 PM Varaždinsko gospodarsko čudo
Više nema neiskorištenih čestica u varaždinskoj Slobodnoj zoni, najvećoj domaćoj proizvodnoj greenfield investiciji, a kako raste interes inozemnih tvrtki, otvarat će se nove zone u obližnjim općinama. Godišnji izvoz domaćih i inozemnih poduzeća, korisnika Slobodne zone, koji će zaposliti 3500 ljudi, premašivat će 500 milijuna eura
http://www.tportal.hr/2005/07/14/0092007.19.jpg
Ako ne iskrsne nešto nepredviđeno do kraja 2008. godine nezaposlenost u Varaždinskoj županiji bit će ispod europskog prosjeka. Za hrvatske prilike to je ravno znanstvenoj fantastici, a mnogo toga ukazuje da će se ove smjele prognoze i realizirati, ponajprije zahvaljujući otvaranju novih radnih mjesta u Slobodnoj zoni Varaždin, trenutno najvećoj proizvodnoj, izvozno orijentiranoj greenfield investiciji u Hrvatskoj.
Potpunom izgradnjom svih proizvodnih kapaciteta zaposlit će se najmanje 3500 ljudi, a još barem 500 će posao dobiti u poduzetničkim zonama obližnjih općina Kneginec Gornji i Trnovec Bartolovečki. Istodobno bi godišnji izvoz korisnika Slobodne zone trebao premašiti 500 milijuna eura. Stoga i nije neobično da se za hrvatsko gospodarsko čudo, u mnogome slično onom irskom, poprilično priča i u inozemstvu, pa Austrijska radiotelevizija snima reportažu koju će ORF odaslati u svijet.
'Nije ništa neobično u tome. Za varaždinsku Slobodnu zonu mnogi u Europi već znaju. O tome svjedoči i činjenica da više nemamo na raspolaganju nijednu neiskorištenu česticu, a interes inozemnih tvrtki za ulaganje u hrvatsko gospodarstvo kroz osiguranje mjesta u varaždinskoj Slobodnoj zoni je iz dana u dan u porastu. Stoga ćemo se okrenuti otvaranju novih lokacija kako bi iskoristili ovo veliko zanimanje za nas', objašnjava Slobodan Mikac, direktor varaždinske Slobodne zone i potvrđuje da će Varaždin možda jedini u Hrvatskoj dosegnuti razinu zaposlenosti znatno iznad svih zemalja u tranziciji.
Prvi investitor u Slobodnu zonu je njemačka tvrtka BHS Corrugadet, proizvođač strojeva za proizvodnju kartona s iznosom od 10 milijuna eura s 200 zaposlenih i godišnjim izvozom od 20 milijuna eura. Najveći investitor je austrijska tvrtka Boxmark Leather, jedan od najvećih proizvođača kožnih sjedišta za ugledne proizvođače automobila, primjerice Audi, Porsche, BMW, kao i za zrakoplove serije Airbus. Ova tvrtka već sada zapošljava više od 700, a u konačnici će se zaposliti oko 2500 radnika, koji će ostvarivati godišnji izvoz između 350 i 400 milijuna eura.
Najveći hrvatski investitor u Slobodnoj zoni je varaždinska tvrtka Gumiimpex koja će na oko 60 tisuća četvornih metara izgraditi najmoderniju tvornicu za reciklažu starih autoguma, odnosno proizvodnju gumenog granulata za izvoz. Riječ je o tvornici obitelji Kirić u kojoj je već zaposleno 140 djelatnika, a u novom proizvodnom kapacitetu posao očekuje još stotinjak radnika. Uz njih su u Slobodnu zonu investirali još četiri inozemne i isto toliko domaćih tvrtki.
Tako će talijanska tvrtka Marchetti Giovani u prvoj fazi proizvodnje strojeva za građevinske elemente i stiropor zaposliti oko 150 radnika, švicarska tvrtka Hoegger će proizvoditi strojeve za prehrambenu industriju, a kada krene puna proizvodnja zaposlit će oko 200 radnika. Tu su i poduzeća OBO Bettermann, Work-Ing, kao i Zrinski AG, njemačka tvrtka čiji su vlasnici članovi hrvatske obitelji Zrinski, pa zatim domaće 'snage' Oprema-Intercom, Meteor Grupa i Matrex-Trade.
Sve u svemu, Varaždinska županija je na najboljem putu da postane pravo malo gospodarsko čudo. Za 'recepturu' su zainteresirane mnoge druge hrvatske sredine, ali i one iz inozemstva.
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Hmm, kaj reci na ovo? Ocito je da nekima gospodarstvo i prosperitet lokalne zajednice stoji daleko ispred politickih igrica i mucki, koje mogu posluziti kao razonoda, ali tek nakon KVALITETNO obavljenog posla! :)
Takodjer skidam kapu Ivanu Cehoku na svemu kaj je ucinio za svoj grad.
Da je bar Zagrebu jedan takav Ivan Cehok umjesto onog morona Banditica :bash:
:cheers:
Sa ovime se apsolutno slazem, znaci batalite politiku i bavite se privredom. Ljudi moraju da shvate da im politikanstvo nece poboljsati standard nego samo pametan rad u privredi i to na lokalnom nivou. Znaci ne da se gleda megalomanski nego lokalno, puno manjih stvari daju jednu veliku, tja da se radi lokalno a misli globalno. Sto vise ovakvih lokalnih sredina bice svima bolje i mirnije u zivotu, sta da kazem osim odlicno uradjen posao :okay:
long foot August 17th, 2005, 01:55 PM Slažem se! Skoro svakodnevno se u Hrvatskoj otvaraju novi proizvodni pogoni, a većina njih upravo u novim poslovnim zonama, kojih je hvala bogu sve više. A najviše od svega me veseli kad vidim ozbiljne strane ulagače, ne one sa svojim trade-commerce-marketing sranjima, već prave investitore koji ulažu u proizvodnju. Dovoljno je da jedan veliki proizvođač, tipa Boxmark, otvori tvornicu s 400-500 radnih mjesta (koja automatski stimulira i otvaranje barem još toliko radnih mjesta u pratećim uslužnim djelatnostima) i da jedan mrtvi grad oživi :) A i Varaždin je uvijek bio grad za dobar biznis. Zapravo, općenito je sjeverozapadna Hrvatska malo drugačija po mentalitetu od ostatka zemlje ;)
bubach_hlubach August 17th, 2005, 09:05 PM That book is bullshit, racial theories are the most stupid thing in the world, I am not bothered much with idea of being Slav or Iranian or Ilirian or anything else. I speak Slavic language and that is what makes me being Slav, nothing more. I had a friend who was black (his father was from Africa, his mother was Croatian), but he was Croat couse he lived here and spoke Croatian and felt as Croat.
No offence to anyone, but only stupid people are occupied with this "genetic origin" crap.
I've also counted my own blood cells, but for some reason it came out that i am more an Iraqi person than Iranian :eek2: :D
Danas smo iz Irana, sutra smo s Sjevernog pola, a preksutra iz Sjeverne Amerike (North Carolina da budem precizniji)...slijedeca faza je proucavanje jednostacnih organizama, kad konacno to poglavlje zatvorimo, onda su nam vece sanse da se proglasimo nebeskim narodom, a buduci da je konkurencija toliko jaka na ovom podrucju, mozemo se jos dodatno posvetiti i biljkama i istrazivanju peluda te zahebemo konkurenciju, i sanse nam se popnu na kategoriju 'nadnebeskog naroda' :D
:cheers:
OettingerCroat August 17th, 2005, 09:58 PM That book is bullshit, racial theories are the most stupid thing in the world, I am not bothered much with idea of being Slav or Iranian or Ilirian or anything else. I speak Slavic language and that is what makes me being Slav, nothing more. I had a friend who was black (his father was from Africa, his mother was Croatian), but he was Croat couse he lived here and spoke Croatian and felt as Croat.
No offence to anyone, but only stupid people are occupied with this "genetic origin" crap.
i agree with you 100% man. on the same token, that makes me American, which is NOT what I want to be seen as! :lol:
long foot August 17th, 2005, 10:24 PM Danas smo iz Irana, sutra smo s Sjevernog pola, a preksutra iz Sjeverne Amerike (North Carolina da budem precizniji)...
Čovjek je od tamo odakle mu je žena, to je stara mudrost ;) :D
bubach_hlubach August 17th, 2005, 10:46 PM Čovjek je od tamo odakle mu je žena, to je stara mudrost ;) :D
:lol:
Inace, da ne bi bilo zabune rijec Michigan dolazi od naseg Mi(c)hanovica, kojeg su americki indijanci od milja nazvali Michi, a budici da je Mi(c)hanovic imao pistolj sa sobom, od tuda i dolazi rijec 'gan' (gun) - Michi+gan = Michigan :D
Samo evo silom prilika engleski izgovor se je promijenio, tako da se Michigan danas izgovara 'Mishigen', umjesto praiskonskog originalnog izgovora Mihigan :D
:cheers:
gwinczlav August 17th, 2005, 11:11 PM :lol:
Inace, da ne bi bilo zabune rijec Michigan dolazi od naseg Mi(c)hanovica, kojeg su americki indijanci od milja nazvali Michi, a budici da je Mi(c)hanovic imao pistolj sa sobom, od tuda i dolazi rijec 'gan' (gun) - Michi+gan = Michigan :D
Samo evo silom prilika engleski izgovor se je promijenio, tako da se Michigan danas izgovara 'Mishigen', umjesto praiskonskog originalnog izgovora Mihigan :D
:cheers:No shit. :gunz: :tyty: :hahaha: :drunk: :eek2: :crazy2: :speech: :rant: :okay: :banned: :hilarious :hilarious :hilarious :? :guns1: :master: :colgate:
esseker August 17th, 2005, 11:58 PM That book is bullshit, racial theories are the most stupid thing in the world, I am not bothered much with idea of being Slav or Iranian or Ilirian or anything else. I speak Slavic language and that is what makes me being Slav, nothing more. I had a friend who was black (his father was from Africa, his mother was Croatian), but he was Croat couse he lived here and spoke Croatian and felt as Croat.
No offence to anyone, but only stupid people are occupied with this "genetic origin" crap.
I belive you missunderstood the point of that research if you think it had anything to do with rasism. It's just science, not politics.
Plus, it is important to get as much information as possible about human genes.
SinCity August 18th, 2005, 01:44 AM There is however an international research happening now across the world and this has been organised by National Geographic. The basis of the research is to show the historic migrations of people, their origins and the paths they took to their present settlements. Its nothing to do with proving one race is inferior and another superior. Its more to show how we relate to one another and also at the same time how we are diverse. I'll see if I can find the web link. Its all to do with genes reasearch. :)
SinCity August 18th, 2005, 01:46 AM Slažem se! Skoro svakodnevno se u Hrvatskoj otvaraju novi proizvodni pogoni, a većina njih upravo u novim poslovnim zonama, kojih je hvala bogu sve više. A najviše od svega me veseli kad vidim ozbiljne strane ulagače, ne one sa svojim trade-commerce-marketing sranjima, već prave investitore koji ulažu u proizvodnju. Dovoljno je da jedan veliki proizvođač, tipa Boxmark, otvori tvornicu s 400-500 radnih mjesta (koja automatski stimulira i otvaranje barem još toliko radnih mjesta u pratećim uslužnim djelatnostima) i da jedan mrtvi grad oživi :) A i Varaždin je uvijek bio grad za dobar biznis. Zapravo, općenito je sjeverozapadna Hrvatska malo drugačija po mentalitetu od ostatka zemlje ;)
True, and thats why Croatia's second most important Stock Exchange is located in the city of Varaždin. :)
mic of Orion August 18th, 2005, 02:11 AM guys if you continue ranting BS, threads would go faster than rocket... :)
Only Croatian Projects plzzz, or Issue of Croatian infrastructure - related, I crated Military thread precisely to move military BS from this thread, I guess I should have created Croatian BS thread to, lol.... :) :runaway:
Sorry to be so blunt, but sometimes it is best way to get massage across, lol... :) :cheers: :runaway:
SinCity August 18th, 2005, 04:10 AM TURIZAM Lukšićeva vila primila prve goste
Noć u Šeherezadi za tri tisuće eura
Autor Marija BIKIĆ
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050817/hrv-noc-txt.jpg
Dubrovačka Villa Šeherezada u vlasništvu grupacije Andronika Lukšića primila je prve goste nakon 18 godina stanke! Novouređena luksuzna villa trebala bi u potpunosti opravdati ime - noćenje pod plavom maurskom kupolom stoji nevjerojatnih tri tisuće eura!
U obnovu, po mnogima, najljepše vile u Dubrovniku, njezin vlasnik Lukšić grupacija uložio je oko milijun i pol eura. No, kako ističe Mario Marić, direktor Grand ville Argentina, u čijem sastavu je i Šeherezada, to nije konačan iznos jer na jesen još moraju srediti dio parka što ju okružuje.
Na upit što gosti dobivaju za tri tisuće eura za noć, Marić je kratko i jasno odgovorio: - Sve što požele! No, prvi gosti koji su stigli prošloga vikenda, a čiji nam identitet u Argentini nisu željeli otkriti, imat će promotivne, "povoljnije" cijene. Dogodine kad se preuređenje ville u potpunosti dovrši, noćenje će stajati i 5000 eura!
Thats 3000 Euros a night! At the end of the year, the full price will be 5000 Euros a night! :eek:
bubach_hlubach August 18th, 2005, 04:26 AM 5000 EUR? wow, does it include 10 women by your own choice, too ? :D
:cheers:
SinCity August 18th, 2005, 04:54 AM 5000 EUR? wow, does it include 10 women by your own choice, too ? :D
:cheers:
Whatever the clientele wants, they'll get, according to the management. :D
bubach_hlubach August 18th, 2005, 05:20 AM Whatever the clientele wants, they'll get, according to the management. :D
Hahaha, 'whatever they want' umm okay, then i am also gonna try this hotel, and when i am about to leave it next morning, i'll ask the menagament if i can get my 5000 EUR back :D
:cheers:
SinCity August 18th, 2005, 05:58 AM Luxembourg's Orco Launches Takeover Bid for Suncani Hvar
2005-08-16 10:41:43
Luxembourg-based real estate developer Orco announced that it has launched a takeover bid for the Croatian tourism company Suncani Hvar, which it manages under a public-private partnership (PPP) with the Croatian government.
Orco's takeover bid offered 115 kuna per share, the company said. Orco, together with the town of Hvar and the Croatian Privatisation Fund, presently own slightly more than 75% of Suncani Hvar.
The PPP agreement was signed by Orco and the Croatian government in April.
Last month, Orco increased Suncani Hvar's capital by 200 million kuna to 531 million kuna. Moreover, Orco has pledged to provide another 200 million kuna for investment and plans a further 100 million kuna capital hike plus another 100 million kuna of investments.
www.seeurope.net
bubach_hlubach August 18th, 2005, 06:29 AM ^^ That sucks :(
Skegro should've bought it since he really knows how things are in Suncani Hvar :D
:cheers:
OettingerCroat August 18th, 2005, 10:50 PM Croatia banks on Austria help for EU talks
Zagreb: Croatia hopes to start its European Union membership talks during Austria's presidency next year.
Croatian Prime Minister Ivo Sanader said this late Wednesday after meeting Austrian Chancellor Wolfgang Schuessel.
Schuessel arrived Wednesday evening in Croatia at Sanader's invitation to watch a football match between Croatia and Brazil.
The two government heads held informal talks after the game.
"For us (Croatia) it is extremely important that Austria will be presiding over the EU," Sanader said.
"We hope that we will then get green light for our accession talks."
Vienna has always supported Zagreb on its path toward EU membership, and Croatia and Austria have good bilateral relations.
Austria is the biggest foreign investor in the Croatia economy.
Zagreb hopes that the Austrian EU presidency might facilitate the decision on opening talks between Brussels and Croatia.
In March, the EU decided not to open talks due to Croatia's failure to arrest and extradite fugitive war-crimes suspect Ante Gotovina, a former general.
In 2001, The Hague-based International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) charged Gotovina with war crimes against Serbs during the 1990s Croatian-Serbian war. He has been on the run ever since, and his extradition to The Hague is Croatia's most important pre-condition for EU membership.
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i think its really sad that the retarded-ass Croatian goverment is so stubborn that it will have to wait for Austria to try to work its magic for us. yeah, lets keep hiding gotovina....
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SinCity August 19th, 2005, 02:22 AM Anyway, from what I hear we will enter negotiations soon. We'll know in full in the several weeks ahead. A lot of countries are pushing for Croatia's entry. However if this doesn't happen before the end of this year, rest assured Austria will ensure it happens when they preside over the EU. :yes:
bubach_hlubach August 19th, 2005, 03:35 AM Končaru 10,8 milijuna eura vrijedan posao na obnovi HE Zlatoličje
http://www.vjesnik.com/html/2005/08/19/koncar9.jpg
Končar KET natječe se i za gradnju HE Sveta Petka u Makedoniji
ZAGREB - Končar KET (Inženjering za energetiku i transport) dobio je 10,8 milijuna eura vrijedan posao na obnovi slovenske hidroelektrane Zlatoličje.
Naime, Nadzorni odbor Dravske elektrarne iz Maribora u četvrtak je dao suglasnost na potpisivanje ugovora s Končar KET-om o dobavi dvaju generatora od 80 megavata s uzbudnim sustavom u sklopu obnove HE Zlatoličje, te nadzoru nad montažom i puštanjem opreme u pogon. Posebna komisija koja je vodila postupak odabira najpovoljnijeg ponuditelja je od tri pristigle odabrala ponudu Končar KET-a, čime su iz igre izbačeni jedna austrijska kompanija te njemački Siemens.
Potpisivanje ugovora se, prema riječima predsjednika uprave Končar KET-a Tomija Duževića, očekuje u roku od 20 dana. »Ponudili smo najbolju cijenu, pa nismo previše iznenađeni što je odabrana naša ponuda, a prvi generator trebali bismo isporučiti za otprilike godinu i pol. Ovaj prilično velik posao jedan je u nizu sličnih koje smo realizirali u Sloveniji, nakon što smo pobijedili na natječajima u manje-više sličnoj konkurenciji. S obzirom da je riječ o poslu u zemlji članici Europske unije, to će za nas biti važna referenca, s obzirom da sudjelovanje u novim tenderima u EU podrazumijeva da već imate reference u zemljama EU«, kaže Dužević. Inače, Končar KET očekuje još jedan veliki posao - naime zajedno s Konstruktorom natječe se za gradnju (po sistemu ključ u ruke) HE Sveta Petka u Makedoniji, gdje su rekonstruirali već šest hidroelektrana. Obnova HE Zlatoličje, najveće i najjače dravske elektrane, ukupno je vrijedna oko 15 milijardi tolara, a trebala bi trajati od ljeta 2007. do ljeta 2009. Zlatoličje u ukupnoj slovenskoj proizvodnji električne energije sudjeluje s pet posto (na nju ujedno otpada više od trećine snage svih elektrana na Dravi), a s obzirom da ova hidroelektrana neprekidno radi već skoro četiri desetljeća njezina se generatorska i turbinska oprema istrošila te je ju je nužno zamijeniti.
Dravske elektrarne Maribor su prvi sporazum o dobavi opreme za obnovu elektrane već potpisale sa slovenskim Litostrojem. S obzirom da je proizvodnja ove vrste opreme dugotrajna, direktor Dravske elektrarne Danilo Šef ocijenio je da zamjena turbina i generatora neće početi prije ljeta 2007.
Nives Matijević
long foot August 19th, 2005, 08:49 AM O (ne)kulturom ponašanju veleuljuđenih Zapadnoeuropljana i kako bi naše pravosuđe trebalo funkcionirati svaki dan, a ne jednom u godini….
Novi list (http://www.novilist.hr/Default.asp?WCI=Rubrike&WCU=28592861286328602863285A28582858285D28632893289D2894289C286328632859285D285D285B285B2861286328632863285A2863V)
Kazna plaćena, Nizozemac putuje kući
RIJEKA – Nizozemac Tom Elbert Duifhuis (18) koji je okrivljen za oštećenje kipa »Djevojke s galebom« jučer je procesuiran na Općinskom sudu u Rijeci. Mladić je u sudnicu doveden iz pritvora riječkog zatvora gdje je ranije smješten temeljem prijedloga državnog odvjetništva za mladež. Pred raspravnom sutkinjom priznao je počinjenje kaznenog djela uništenja i oštećenja tuđe stvari, izjavljujući da se osjeća krivim i prihvatio je prijedlog Državnog odvjetništva da ga se kazneno sankcionira.
Osuđen je stoga na novčanu kaznu u visini 100 prosječnih dnevnih dohodaka u RH što iznosi 14.247 kuna. S obzirom da mu je izrečena novčana kazna, po sili zakona mu je ukinut pritvor, a kako su se sve stranke odrekle prava na žalbu, presuda je odmah postala pravomoćna. Skrušenog izraza lica izašao je iz sudnice, a bilo je vidljivo da mu je žao zbog učinjenog. Motiv trganja galeba sa skulpture ostao je i dalje nepoznat jer se ni jučer o tome nije izjašnjavao. Je li u pitanju bila alkoholiziranost koja ga je zajedno s dvojicom 17-godišnjih prijatelja bezrazložno nagnala na takav čin ili su mladi turisti željeli kući ponijeti suvenir, ostat će tajna.
Cjelokupni novčani iznos je nakon izrečene presude uredno plaćen, donesena je uplatnica kojom je to potvrđeno i mladić je pušten na slobodu. Izjavio je da odmah putuje kući u Nizozemsku. Što se tiče njegovih prijatelja koji su osumnjičeni za isto djelo i kazneno prijavljeni redovnim putem, protiv njih će se voditi odvojeni postupak.
bubach_hlubach August 19th, 2005, 06:58 PM Some bizzare looking castle near Krapinske toplice :
who would ever wanna build anything like this :runaway:
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/174/krapinsketoplicedvorac32426di.jpg
:cheers:
bubach_hlubach August 19th, 2005, 07:03 PM One more shot of the Zagreb-Split motorway :)
It's so 'gorgeous', couldnt resist it ;)
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8304/zagrebsplitcesta2wg.jpg
:cheers:
OettingerCroat August 19th, 2005, 07:26 PM taj stari dvorac je divan, o cemu govoris?
ali ta cesta je stvarno nevjerojatna. svaka nam cast :applause:
:cheers:
long foot August 19th, 2005, 08:31 PM taj dvorac je djelo nekoj ćaknutog zagorskoj tajkuna, a cesta je zbilja prekrasna, iako na ovoj fotki izgleda kao da vozači moraju vozit slalom po njoj. U stvarnosti je zapravo prilično ravna.
gwinczlav August 20th, 2005, 12:20 AM Umro najbogatiji Hrvat
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050819/hrv-umro-txt.jpg
Najbogatiji Hrvat Androniko Lukšić umro je preksinoć kasno navečer od raka u dobi od 76 godina. Njegovo je osobno bogatstvo nedavno procijenjeno na 1,6 milijardi dolara, imao je poslovne interese u raznim granama čileanskog gospodarstva, od pivovara, ribarstva, bankarstva do telekomunikacija. Lukšić je sin Hrvata koji je 1910. emigrirao u Čile, a njegova obitelj je, uz ostale poslove, i veliki dioničar u čileanskoj drugoj po veličini tamošnjoj banci - Banco de Chile.
A. Lukšić sudjelovao je 90-ih godina i u procesu privatizacije u Hrvatskoj, čemu je, oduvijek se nagađalo, pripomoglo i njegovo prijateljstvo s prvim hrvatskim predsjednikom Tuđmanom. U Hrvatskoj je Lukšić kupovao preko svoje tvrtke registrirane u Lihtenštajnu "Sutivan Investment Anstalt". Sredinom 90-ih Lukšić u Hrvatsku ulazi kupnjom 75 posto dubrovačke turističke agencije Atlas i time je zapravo tek počeo seriju ulaganja u hrvatskom turizmu.
Najviše u turizam
Neposredno nakon Atlasa, Lukšić preuzima 83,51 posto dionica porečke Plave lagune, a također i 71,45 posto dionica dubrovačkog Hotela Argentina. U obnovu je poznatog dubrovačkog hotela Lukšić uložio čak 130 milijuna kuna. Nedavno je otvorio i obnovljenu dubrovačku Villu Šeherezadu u koju je uložio milijun i pol eura, a koja se diči činjenicom što noćenje stoji fantastičnih tri tisuće eura.
Osim u turizam, Lukšić je krajem devedesetih uložio i u kupnju Karlovačke pivovare. S obzirom na to da ju je kupio uz diskontnu cijenu prodajom Heinekenu u travnju 2003. za 634,7 milijuna kuna, (82 i pol milijuna eura), na tom je poslu višestruko zaradio.
Odlazak iz Hrvatske?
Na smrt Andronika Lukšića reagiralo je i tržište. Dionice Atlasa na Zagrebačkoj burzi porasle su za 1,36 posto. Inače, u poslovnim krugovima dovodi se u vezu sa sudbinom njegovih ulaganja u Hrvatskoj jer je, kažu dobri poznavaoci, jedino on htio investirati u našoj zemlji, dijelom i zbog sentimentalnih razloga.
Navodno njegovi sinovi nisu zainteresirani nastaviti taj biznis, jer je on daleko od njihove matične komapnije u Čileu, a nisu ni na koji drugi način vezani za Hrvatsku. Špekulira se da će za neko, vrijeme oni potražiti kupce za svoja poduzeća koja, počevši od Plave lagune do hotela Argentine, imaju zainteresiranih investitora.
dadekhr August 20th, 2005, 06:24 AM Ovaj dio autoceste je kod Brinja i stvarno izgleda prekrasno s ovog pogleda iako je u stvari puno ravnija nego što izgleda. Mislim da sam i ja stavio fotku tih zavoja. Inaće kroz svaki takav zavoj na cijeloj autocesti se bez problema može proći sa 140 km/h, a kroz većinu i sa 160 km/h i više. Nisu oni tak oštri kao što na nekim fotkama izgledaju.
OettingerCroat August 20th, 2005, 07:00 AM jesi, stavio si. odlicna je ;) odlicna je i slika i autocesta :colgate: ajdemo se nadati da se ove dvije nove autocesta do ploca i iz zagreba do siska zavrse brzo :colgate:
long foot August 20th, 2005, 10:02 AM Guys, do you have any problem with google? Look what opens to me:
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/4434/untitled6qv.jpg
BTW I am going to take some update pics, you will se them next Monday ;)
esseker August 20th, 2005, 10:37 AM I opened google just now and it was ok.
esseker August 20th, 2005, 10:43 AM Some bizzare looking castle near Krapinske toplice :
who would ever wanna build anything like this :runaway:
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/174/krapinsketoplicedvorac32426di.jpg
:cheers:
This castle was built by some "tajkun" and the roll-model for the building was an old Lego castle. I remember I read that in some magazine a few years ago. He bought his kids that Lego toy and liked it so much that he asked a friend architect to build it! It look's wierd but so does the castle in Disney-world and look how many visitors they have! :)
SinCity August 22nd, 2005, 01:08 AM One more shot of the Zagreb-Split motorway :)
It's so 'gorgeous', couldnt resist it ;)
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8304/zagrebsplitcesta2wg.jpg
:cheers:
Very nice pic. :yes:
SinCity August 22nd, 2005, 04:33 AM The city of Vukovar and its county was once one of the most prosperous in Croatia prior to the 1991 war which saw the city and region fully destroyed by Serbian agression. The city symbolised Croatian resistance to those forces intent on annexing it to "Greater Serbia". Its fall was beamed across the whole world. However more than a decade later its finally making some progress on the economic front.
Basically 2004 financial results saw a dramatic 890 % increase over 2003. Indicators showing that finally Vukovar and the surrounding region is slowly but surely returning to prosperity that it once enjoyed before its horrific destruction ....
TRENDOVI Gospodarstvo Vukovarsko-srijemske županije rezultate poboljšalo za 890 posto
Podunavlje ipak gospodarski raste
Autor BRANIMIR BRADARIĆ
Prema godišnjim financijskim izvješćima Vukovarsko-srijemska županija u 2004. godini bila je sedma po konačnom financijskom rezultatu među hrvatskim županijama. Prošlu godinu poduzetnici iz najistočnije hrvatske županije završili su sa 128 milijuna kuna dobiti, što je u odnosu na 2003. godinu povećanje od 890 posto.
– Općenito gledano radi se o blagim pozitivnim pomacima gospodarstva; slikovito rečeno nazire se svjetlo na kraju dugačkog tamnog tunela. Još 2001. godine zaustavili smo negativne gospodarske pokazatelje i od tada kroz razne programe i kreditne linije, iz godine u godinu, sve više oživljavali gospodarstvo – rekao nam je Nenad Jerković, pročelnik Ureda za gospodarstvo Vukovarsko-srijemske županije.
Smanjeni gubici
Prošlogodišnje financijsko izvješće kaže i da je u Vukovarsko-srijemskoj županiji zabilježen rast dobiti od pet posto, a gospodarski gubici smanjeni su za 38 posto. Komentirajući pozitivne gospodarske pomake Jerković je istaknuo kako je završetak stečajnih postupaka u domicilnim županijskim bankama, Županjskoj, Cibalia i Vukovarskoj, najvažniji razlog ovakvog financijskog izvješća. Ipak i pored ovih pozitivnih rezultata Vukovarsko-srijemska županija se i dalje nalazi na samom začelju po većini ekonomskih pokazatelja.
Veća nezaposlenost
I dalje je stopa nezaposlenosti veća od 33 posto, BDP je i dalje među najnižima u Hrvatskoj.
– Treba znati da naše gospodarstvo nema znatnijeg utjecaja na gospodarstvo Hrvatske. Naši gospodarstvenici u dobiti sudjeluju sa 1,1 posto, prihodima sa 1,4 posto i gubicima sa 0,9 posto. Problem je i što se naše sirovine odvoze i negdje drugdje prerađuju u finalne proizvode – rekao je Jerković. Uza sve to plaće uposlenih su među najnižima u Hrvatskoj i u prosjeku su iznosile 2743 kune.
– Da bi se pozitivni pomaci osjetili i na standardu građana, neophodno je da se uključe svi počevši od države pa nadalje. Uza sve to moramo koristiti i naše prirodne potencijale, prije svega Dunav i zemljopisni položaj. Tu su i projekti slobodnih zona koji će uskoro početi davati rezultate – zaključio je Jerković.
bubach_hlubach August 22nd, 2005, 05:43 AM ^^ Nekoc jedna od najbogatijih i najprosperitetnijih regija u bivsoj Jugoslaviji, ranih devedestih prakticki je preko noci postala opustosena zemlja :(
Unatoc donedavno brutalnoj kronologiji dogodjanja na tom podrucju, ja vjerujem da ce Vukovarska regija opet stati na svoje noge, i biti ponovo ono po cemu je uvijek bila poznata i priznata.
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SinCity August 22nd, 2005, 05:45 AM There are plans to reinstate two former Dubrovnik attractions. :)
The Dubrovnik Cable Car service which up until 1991 connected the old city with Napoleon's fortress overlooking the city high up on Mount Srđ. Napoleon built the fortress in an effort to conquer Dubrovnik (He was the only person in Dubrovnik's history to achieve this!). In 1991, Serb forces bombing the historic city of Dubrovnik destroyed this tourist attraction, which once carried over 2.5 million visitors. There will soon be a new golf course on Mount Srđ which this cable car can service on top of the fortress which is an attraction in itself.
Secondly, there are plans to reinstate the Dubrovnik Tram which ran from 1910 thru to 1970 when it was removed due to a mishap and also due to popularity of buses. It was one of the first electric tram services in Europe at the time. The new trams would service the coast and hopefully expand to become an integrated part of the Dubrovnik public transport network which requires urgent expansion these days :) .....
Od Ploča do Srđa opet žičarom
Od 1969., tijekom 20 godina, dubrovačka je žičara prevezla 2,5 milijuna putnika.
Dubrovnik se nekada mogao podičiti jedinom žičarom na Jadranu koja je grad povezivala s vrhom brda Srđ. Izletničku žičaru koja je vozila od Ploča, nadomak drevnih zidina do tvrđave Imperial na Srđu, 1969. uspostavila je Putnička agencija Atlas a tijekom dvadeset godina rada prevezla je 2,5 milijuna putnika.
Početkom srpske agresije i tijekom granatiranja Dubrovnika, 1991. postrojenja žičare, posebice stanica na Srđu jako je oštećena a kablovi kao i dvije kabine pali su na padine brda i potpuno su uništene.
Proteklih nekoliko godina u više se navrata govorilo o obnovi te turističke atrakcije što bi, prema nekim procjenama Atlas stajalo oko dva milijuna eura.
Početkom godine Gradskom poglavarstvu izneseni su i konkretni projekti te od njega zatražena, a potom i dobivena suglasnot za izdavanje lokacijske dozvole. Naime, projektom obnove predviđena je dogradnja gornje postaje žičare koja bi se u budućnosti prostirala na 250 metara četvornih a a u njoj bi se nalazili i ugostiteljski sadržaji. Dubrovnik bi time dobio u turističkom smislu, kao i plato brda Srđ te naselje Bosanka na njemu. Žičara bi napokon ponovo oživjela i tvrđavu Imperial koja je prije rata bila vrlo posjećen ugostiteljski objekt, pridonijela bi gradnji planiranoga golf igrališta a omogućila bi možda i realizaciju nekih drugih projekata, poput velikih javnih garaža ili gradnje novih gradskih naselja. Živjeti na Srđu ili barem parkirati automobil te za dvadesetak minuta stići u Grad, sa žičarom će zaista biti moguće.
Uz žičaru, Dubrovnik se nekada mogao pohvaliti i tramvajskim gradskim prijevozom, jednim od prvih u Europi. Stari žuti Dubrovački tramvaj s ljetnom prikolicom, tzv. bajvagenom, grad je povezivao od 1910. do 1970., kada je 20. ožujka, zbog nesreće koja se dogodila 13 dana prije na Pilama, u potpunosti ukinut. Prva tramvajska kola, tada najmodernija, češkog proizvođača Križik dubrovačkim tračnicama krenula su 22. prosinca 1910. i to na relaciji Pile - Kolodvor. U narednih 60 godina tramvaj je utakmicu pomalo gubio pred autobusom a jedna poginula osoba i 14 teže i lakše ozlijeđenih prilikom pada tramvaja, kojem su otkazale kočnice, u četiri metra dubok gradski park na Pilama bili su glavni razlog da se on povuče iz prometa.
Iz godine u godinu sve veće gužve na gradskim prometnicama stručnjake tjeraju na iznalaženje alternativnog javnog gradskog prijevoza posebice na relaciji luka Gruž - Pile. Uz ideje o žičari koja bi padinom Srđa tisuće putnika s putničkih brodova iz dubrovačke luke prevozila do povijesne gradske cjeline te projekte prijevoza morem, rodio se i projekt tramvajskoga gradskog prometa koji su Dubrovčanin Elimio Popović, viši arhitektonski tehničar i njegov sin Mario kao prijedlog uputili gradskim vlastima. Projekt predviđa i trasu koja bi iz Gruža do Grada u dužini od osam kilometara vodila pretežno uz samo more a u cijelosti izvan postojećeg cestovnog prometa. S obzirom da taj projekt predviđa i probijanje nekoliko tunela poput onog kroz liticu na kojoj je sagrađena tvrđava Lovrjenac, te gradnju nekoliko mostova zbog čega bi njegova cijena bila oko 600 milijuna kuna, izglednije je da bi stari »dubrovački žućo« u najboljem slučaju mogao prometovati tek kratkom turističkom linijom zapadnom stranom gruškog zaljeva do Lapada.
Anton Hauswitschka
Od Ploča do Srđa opet žičarom (http://www.vjesnik.hr/html/2005/08/20/Clanak.asp?r=tem&c=2)
long foot August 22nd, 2005, 08:17 AM 890 posto! :eek2:
SinCity August 22nd, 2005, 08:31 AM 890 % is correct ..... and about time considering this county was not only Croatia's most wealthiest, but also Yugoslavia's most wealthiest. It was no wonder the Serbs tried to use every means possible to conquer it and in the end they succeded in getting nothing out of it. The destruction from the war ruined Vukovar district and its taken over a decade to see some improvement. However there is a long way to go yet. Hopefully it'll all become wealthy again. :)
esseker August 22nd, 2005, 01:06 PM Dubrovnik's tram web site:
http://www.inet.hr/~dfejzagi/
Hopefully they will reinstate the tram service :) . one line for tourists from Gruž to Pile and at least 2 more for normal public transport. I've been to Dubrovnik and the problems with the traffic are big.
++++ when is the Danube-Sava canal going to be built???
mic of Orion August 22nd, 2005, 05:10 PM Croatian Airports thread, just in case, plz do visit and leave your comments...
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=5140266#post5140266
SinCity August 23rd, 2005, 04:27 AM Slowly but surely :D ............ Croatian firms purchasing Serbian businesses ...... :yes:
22.08.2005 21:00
PRIVATIZACIJA U SRBIJI Hrvatski ulagači moderniziraju proizvodnju
Hrvati najulagači u SiCG
Autor PETAR GRUBIŠIĆ
Našička cementara trebala bi preuzeti srbijansku tvrtku 'Toza Marković' iz Kikinde
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Otkad je počela privatizacija u Srbiji, hrvatske su tvrtke za kupnju tamošnjih tvrtki potrošile 40 milijuna eura. Osim novca koji su platili za kupnju, hrvatski ulagači obvezali su se da će u idućih pet godina u njihovu modernizaciju uložiti još 43 milijuna eura, a u zbrinjavanje viška radnika i ostale socijalne programe oko 25 milijuna eura.
Slovenci kupili više
Nedjeljni telegraf došao je do podatka iz Agencije za privatizaciju da hrvatske tvrtke sudjeluju sa 2,39 posto u ukupnoj privatizaciji Srbije, a njihov udjel u investicijama puno je veći i iznosi pet posto, dok je u socijalnom programu narastao čak na devet posto.
To pokazuje, kažu naši izvori, da hrvatske tvrtke prilaze privatizaciji u Srbiji s puno više pažnje i brige o radnicima i razvoju kupljenih tvrtki od nekih drugih europskih ulagača. Zanimljiv je podatak da su Slovenci kupili puno više srpskih tvrtki od Hrvata, a da su naši poduzetnici u kupnju uložili više novca od njih. Taj podatak pokazuje da su se hrvatske tvrtke odlučile na kupnju većih srpskih tvrtki, a Slovenci na manje i srednje tvrtke.
Velik je interes tvrtki i pojedinaca iz Hrvatske za sudjelovanje u privatizacijskom procesu u Srbiji. Česti su kontakti hrvatskih tvrtki s našom Agencijom za privatizaciju.
U načelu, možemo reći da su u pitanju dosad bile prilično uspješne privatizacije kaže Ivan Paligorić, šef Sektora za komunikacije u Agenciji za privatizaciju.
Najveći ulagači u Srbiju su Agrokor, Našicecement i Lura. Todorićev Agrokor je početkom 2003. kupio Frikom, tvornicu smrznute hrane, i oko 1200 hektara zemlje, za 10,2 milijuna eura. Obvezao se da će uložiti još po 16 milijuna eura u modernizaciju tvrtke i socijalno zbrinjavanje radnika.
Luri Somboled za 9 mil.
Našicecement su za 4,4 milijuna eura kupile Jelen Do, tvrtku za oblikovanje i obradu kamena. U njezin razvoj uložit će tri, a u socijalni program još milijun eura. Zajedno s tvrtkom Toza Marković kupili su tvrtku Polet iz Novog Bečeja, koja se bavi proizvodnjom keramike, za 11,7 milijuna eura.
Međutim, sada te dvije tvrtke vode bitku oko vlasništva u Tozi. Lura je za devet milijuna eura dobila Somboled, a Školska knjiga Ante Žužula za 2,4 milijuna eura kupila je beogradsko nakladničko poduzeće BIGZ.
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/newsroom/economics/358670/index.do
SinCity August 23rd, 2005, 04:30 AM The 10 largest acquisitions in Serbia by Croatian Firms ....
Tvrtke koje su u Srbiji i Crnoj Gori kupili Hrvati :D
1. Tvrtka za proizvodnju zamrznute hrane Frikom iz Padinske Skele – kupac Agrokor – cijena: 10,2 milijuna eura
2. Tvornica za proizvodnju opeke i crijepa od gline Polet Novi Bečej – kupac Našicecement i Toza Marković – cijena: 11,7 milijuna eura
3. Tvornica za oblikovanje i obradu kamena Jelen Do iz Jelen Dola – kupac Našicecement – cijena: 4,4 milijuna eura
4. Tvornica za proizvodnju netkana tekstila Inteks iz Mladenovca – kupac M. Profil d.o.o
5. Tvrtka za gajenje žita i drugih usjeva Erdevik iz Erdevika – kupac THOP DOO – cijena: 1,1 milijun eura
6. Tvornica crijepa i proizvoda za građevinarstvo od pečene gline Stražilovo iz Srijemskih Karlovaca – kupac Našicecement – cijena: 1,77 milijuna eura
7. Tvornica za proizvodnju opeke, crijepa i proizvoda za građevinarstvo Potisje iz Kanjiže – konzorcij tvrtki iz Njemačke, Mađarske, Austrije i Hrvatske – cijena: 9,67 milijuna eura
8. Tvrtka Vatrosprem iz Beograda – kupac Damek d.o.o Zagreb – nepoznata cijena
9. Somboled iz Sombora – kupac Lura iz Zagreba – cijena: 9 milijuna eura
10. Izdavačka tvrtka BIGZ Beograd – kupac Školska knjiga Zagreb – cijena 660 000 eura
Tvrtke koje su u Srbiji i Crnoj Gori kupili Hrvati (http://www.vecernji-list.hr/newsroom/economics/358726/index.do?_vl_backlink=/newsroom/economics/358670/index.do)
SinCity August 23rd, 2005, 04:32 AM LUKA BEOGRAD
Beogradski tjednik Nedjeljni telegraf spekulira da je Ivica Todorić najozbiljniji kupac još jedne kapitalne tvrtke - Luke Beograd, ali i još nekoliko drugih tvrtki u Srbiji koje se bave poljoprivrednom proizvodnjom.
Uglednog i uspješnog hrvatskog poduzetnika oni vide, poslije kupnje i drugih srpskih tvrtki, kao glavnog proizvođača hrane na području bivše Jugoslavije.
TOZA MARKOVIĆ
Za dva dana, točnije 24. kolovoza, znat će se tko će biti većinski vlasnik tvornice Toza Marković s kojom je Našicecement, odnosno Nexe grupa posljednjih godina bila partner u Srbiji. Ministar za privredu Srbije Predrag Bubalo rekao je da ne vidi "Nexe grupu" kao vlasnika Toze Markovića iako su hrvatski ulagači ponudili otkup najmanje 25 posto, a najviše 55 posto dionica te tvornice iz Kikinde.
Nova ulaganja u Beogradu dočekana s odobravanjem (http://www.vecernji-list.hr/newsroom/economics/358675/index.do?_vl_backlink=/newsroom/economics/358670/index.do) :yes:
bubach_hlubach August 23rd, 2005, 07:09 AM Manson nastupio u pulskoj Areni
Objavljeno prije 7 sati
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UZ VELIKE mjere sigurnosti u utorak je pred oko šest tisuća posjetitelja u pulskoj Areni održan koncert američke rock grupe Marilyn Manson.
Koncert je trajao nešto manje od sat i pol, a za to vrijeme nije bilo niti jednog incidenta. Ekscesa, a ni očekivanih javnih okupljanja Mansonovih oponenata iz kršćanskih krugova koji su tražili i zabranu koncerta, također nije bilo.
Koncert koji je posljednih dana uzbudio javnost, pa se nagađalo i o njegovoj zabrani, protekao je posve mirno, poput mnogih rock koncerata.
Marilyn Manson u više je navrata pozdravio publiku, uglavnom mlade pristigle iz svih krajeva Hrvatske, ali i inozemstva, jer je to bio jedini njegov koncert u široj regiji.
Iako javnih okupljanja i prosvjeda nije bilo, u crkvi sv. Franje u Puli za vrijeme koncerta okupilo se nekoliko stotina vjernika koji su molitvom za sve one koji su bili na Mansonovu koncertu zazivali Božju milost. Nakon molitve uslijedila je i pjesma većinom mladih vjernika.
;)
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bubach_hlubach August 23rd, 2005, 07:15 AM Kordić u obnovu Vrtova sunca ulaže 80 milijuna eura
Uz sve dosadašnje radnike uskoro i 150 novih radnih mjesta
DUBROVNIK - Josip Kordić, novi vlasnik apartmanskog naselja Dubrovački vrtovi sunca u Orašcu, u ponedjeljak je predstavio plan obnove tog hotelskog kompleksa s 1700 ležaja. Naime, zagrebački poduzetnik i vlasnik građevinskog holdinga na čelu s tvrtkom Hidrocommerce je prije četiri mjeseca od Dubrovačkog primorja za 13,5 milijuna eura kupio veći dio tog kompleksa.
Nakon što godinama bezuspješno pokušava prodati Vrtove sunca za 20 milijuna eura, tvrtka Dubrovačko primorje čiji je direktor inače zamjenik dubrovačke gradonačelnice Pero Vičan, a predsjednik Nadzornog odbora metkovski gradonačelnik Stipe Gabrić - Jambo, pristala je Hidrocommercu za nešto manju cijenu prodati dio u kojemu je smješteno apartmansko naselje, dvorac Soderini te polovicu autokampa.
Novcem dobivenim od prodaje Vrtova Dubrovačko bi primorje trebalo dovršiti gradnju hotela Admiral u Slanome. U obnovu Vrtova sunca Hidrocommerce do lipnja 2007., kada je predviđeno i otvaranje kompleksa koji je već 14 godina izvan funkcije, namjerava uložiti gotovo 80 milijuna eura. Uz povećanje kategorije postojećih apartmana novi vlasnik planira među ostalim graditi i nekoliko vila, hotel, kongresnu dvoranu, sportske sadržaje, wellnes centar, bazene, marinu i podzemnu garažu kako bi Vrtovi sunca dobili kategoriju veću od pet zvjezdica.
»Čim dobijemo sve potrebne dozvole, što očekujemo početkom 2006. godine, krećemo s radovima. Do tada radimo na uređenju postojećeg apartmanskog naselja čiji se vanjski izgled neće mijenjati već će se povećavati površina apartmana. Vrtovi sunca predviđeni su za 1700 kreveta koliko ih imaju sada, iako su prijašnji planovi dosezali i do 5000 kreveta. Povećavanjem površine sadašnjih apartmana, smanjit ćemo broj kreveta u njima i tako dobiti prostor za gradnju luksuznog hotela s 400 postelja« kazao je Josip Kordić.
Dodao je kako je njegova tvrtka kupnjom tog devastiranog apartmanskog naselja preuzela i sve radnike koje je zaposlila u novoosnovanom poduzeću Dubrovački vrtovi sunca - održavanje. Vođenje kompleksa ponudit ćemo drugim tvrtkama putem natječaja, no usluge održavanja kompleksa i dalje će obavljati isključivo poduzeće koje zapošljava dosadašnje radnike, naglasio je Kordić, pojasnivši da će se u Vrtovima sunca uskoro otvoriti još 150 novih radnih mjesta.
Anton Hauswitschka
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SinCity August 23rd, 2005, 08:33 AM Thats good. I guess Kordić has to occupy himself with something else now that EuroTower is close to topping out. :)
SinCity August 23rd, 2005, 08:45 AM Mercator Strikes Macedonia and Croatia Deals with Domestic Rival
Slovenia's largest grocer Mercator has acquired property in Macedonia and Croatia from a Slovenian rival with which it plans to step up its push on markets of the former Yugoslavia.
Mercator signed on Friday, 19 August a deal with Velenje-based grocer Era on the purchase of land in the Macedonian capital of Skopje. Mercator intends to build a mall on the 19,000 sq. metre lot.
Moreover, Mercator also acquired Era's shops in Croatia with which it gains 53,000 sq. metres in shop area and around SIT 25.6bn (EUR 107m) in sales, the company said.
According to Mercator chairman Zoran Jankovic, the two deals are valued at EUR 50m. He refused to specify how much each one was worth.
The purchases are in line with Mercator's strategy of expansion on the former Yugoslav markets.
The development comes only days after the company failed in bidding for a prime piece of real estate in Skopje and gave up on its attempts to acquire Serbia's leading grocer, C Market.
The acquisition of Era's shops in Croatia will raise Mercator's revenues in Slovenia's neighbour to SIT 64bn (EUR 267m). According to Jankovic, Mercator wants to become the second-largest grocer in Croatia. Jankovic also told STA that Mercator was planning to acquire more land in Skopje for a second shopping centre.
The grocer intends to build a chain of large shopping centres in Macedonia before launching a number of smaller ones, he added.
The first centre, which is to be built on the land bought from Era, is expected to be opened in early 2007.
Source: Slovene Press Agency STA
SinCity August 23rd, 2005, 08:51 AM Mining Billionaire Luksic Dies At 78
Greg Levine, 08.22.05, 12:08 PM ET
NEW YORK - Andrónico Luksic, founder of Chile's Antofagasta (otc: ANFGF - news - people ) copper mining and rail empire, died this weekend.
Luksic welded the company together like an alloy, from two disparate ingredients: In 1951, Luksic acquired a 25% stake in a copper mine close to his home town of Antofagasta, according to a report in U.K. news source The Guardian. He took control of a medium-sized transportation concern called Antofagasta (Chile) & Bolivia Railway Company in 1980.
Combining the businesses' strengths, Luksic built Antofagasta into a FTSE 100 company with a market capitalization of 2.7 billion pounds ($4.86 billion), the report says. The company's value has risen by 124% since March 2003, driven by ballooning commodity prices. One particular meta-driver: China and its fearsome hunger for metals. As Internet giants like Yahoo! (nasdaq: YHOO - news - people ) and Google (nasdaq: GOOG - news - people ) invade the Communist country's quasi-free market, and as its own e-commerce requires more hardware to support it, shares have risen for global miners such as Alcoa (nyse: AA - news - people ), BHP Billiton (nyse: BHP - news - people ) and Rio Tinto (nyse: RTP - news - people ).
Luksic, whose family fled to Chile from World War One-ravaged Croatia, returned to that nation recently to invest in a hotel chain--a chain weakened in the 1990s by the return of Balkan civil wars. The billionaire, ranked No. 132 on the Forbes World's Richest People :eek:, was chairman of Antofagasta from 1982 until he retired from the board in November, when he was succeeded by his youngest son Jean-Paul Luksic, the firm's ex-chief executive.
Keith Irons, a spokesman for the company, said Luksic's demise would not alter the family's ownership structure of the company. Irons was quoted by The Guardian as saying, "The old man always said he couldn't think of anything better to invest his money in than Antofagasta." Luksic was 78.
bubach_hlubach August 23rd, 2005, 09:19 AM Mercator Strikes Macedonia and Croatia Deals with Domestic Rival
Slovenia's largest grocer Mercator has acquired property in Macedonia and Croatia from a Slovenian rival with which it plans to step up its push on markets of the former Yugoslavia.
Mercator signed on Friday, 19 August a deal with Velenje-based grocer Era on the purchase of land in the Macedonian capital of Skopje. Mercator intends to build a mall on the 19,000 sq. metre lot.
Moreover, Mercator also acquired Era's shops in Croatia with which it gains 53,000 sq. metres in shop area and around SIT 25.6bn (EUR 107m) in sales, the company said.
According to Mercator chairman Zoran Jankovic, the two deals are valued at EUR 50m. He refused to specify how much each one was worth.
The purchases are in line with Mercator's strategy of expansion on the former Yugoslav markets.
The development comes only days after the company failed in bidding for a prime piece of real estate in Skopje and gave up on its attempts to acquire Serbia's leading grocer, C Market.
The acquisition of Era's shops in Croatia will raise Mercator's revenues in Slovenia's neighbour to SIT 64bn (EUR 267m). According to Jankovic, Mercator wants to become the second-largest grocer in Croatia. Jankovic also told STA that Mercator was planning to acquire more land in Skopje for a second shopping centre.
The grocer intends to build a chain of large shopping centres in Macedonia before launching a number of smaller ones, he added.
The first centre, which is to be built on the land bought from Era, is expected to be opened in early 2007.
Source: Slovene Press Agency STA
This whole thing about Mercator stinks up to high heaven.
Most people that i know they avoid Mercators shops, and have a friend who works there at a Merc. shop in Zagreb, he is afraid of loosing his job cuz the shop hardly ever gets full :runaway:
The largest Croatian grocers are Konzum (29%) Getro (12%) and CBA (10%)
By end of 2004, Mercator had 2% of Croatian market, and all of the sudden it is about to become the second largest grocer in Croatia? Let's not also forget other 'players' that have more than 2 percent of the market : Billa and Metro, Mercatone - Ipercoop, etc.
Just wierd news lol
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AstroBoy August 23rd, 2005, 10:14 AM How many Mercator stores are there across Croatia. I gathered that too that there are many retail players in Croatia at the moment and that the most popular chain would be the local Croatian ones.
long foot August 23rd, 2005, 10:27 AM Mining Billionaire Luksic Dies At 78
Lukšić was a friend of Carlos Menem, former president of Argentina. And we all know how much weapons we got from Argentina during Homeland war (and embargo) ;) I guess it has something to do with Lukšić as well ;) :)
bambam August 23rd, 2005, 03:03 PM Pogledajte nesto Varazdinu (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=248541) s puno povijesnih, ekonomskih itd informacija kao i prelijepih slika ovog baroknog grada...
See the city of Varazdin (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=248541) on SkycreaperCity
esseker August 23rd, 2005, 08:53 PM evo član sam ovog zanimljivog foruma veće nekih mjesec dana pa bi bilo zgodno da vas malo bolje upoznam a možda i vas zanima s kime razmjenjujete informacije i mišljenja :wave:
Ja sam kako znate iz Osijeka i na trećoj sam godini marketinga.
Znam da je Sin City iz Sidneya (najljepši grad na svijetu!) i da se bavi ITom.
Sad vi ostali, pucajte! :cheers2:
SinCity August 24th, 2005, 01:50 AM Lukšić was a friend of Carlos Menem, former president of Argentina. And we all know how much weapons we got from Argentina during Homeland war (and embargo) ;) I guess it has something to do with Lukšić as well ;) :)
:D You'd be amazed at how many financially successful Croats there are in the world, the vast majority either left Croatia in the period between the 2 world wars or they emigrated in the 50s and 60s.
The thing is these people are an asset that should be utilised by Croatia for their wealth and knowledge. I just hope that Lukšić's sons are as pationate for Croatia like their dad was but usually subsequent generations lose that link to their heritage which is a big pity. :(
There needs to be more stronger economic ties between Croatia and its communities abroad where possible. It will help Croatia more in the long run.
Here in Australia there are many wealthy Croats in the construction, transportation and fishing industries. I'm not one of them BTW. ;)
bubach_hlubach August 24th, 2005, 05:45 AM ^^^ That's very true! Also, here in Michigan many of them run all sorts of businesses; financial, banking, real estate, car parts factories, and other srvices. But what cracks me up is to see car stickers; besides HR, some also put HB :D :lol:
Anyways, i have read that all businesses run by Croats in USA, Canada and South America; all these together generate a whole lot higher value than the entire GDP of Croatia. :runaway:
Now if we include Croats from Australia and Western Europe, it would be probably as three times higher lol.
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SinCity August 24th, 2005, 06:48 AM ^^^ That's very true! Also, here in Michigan many of them run all sorts of businesses; financial, banking, real estate, car parts factories, and other srvices. But what cracks me up is to see car stickers; besides HR, some also put HB :D :lol:
Anyways, i have read that all businesses run by Croats in USA, Canada and South America; all these together generate a whole lot higher value than the entire GDP of Croatia. :runaway:
Now if we include Croats from Australia and Western Europe, it would be probably as three times higher lol.
:cheers:
Exactly, but the problems lies in a lot of mistrust and misunderstanding. Croats abroad either perceive Croatia as being too dodgey a place to invest their money and Croats in Croatia see those from abroad as being too old fashioned and therefore there is almost no interaction on an economic level and in the end the country loses out in many investment opportunites.
Last year there was a conference of the 100 most wealthiest Croats in the US (Grupa 100) and in the end this amounted to nothing. Even the Croatian media in the end was asking what all the hype was about because it ended up as usual with no results.
bubach_hlubach August 24th, 2005, 07:40 AM Exactly, but the problems lies in a lot of mistrust and misunderstanding. Croats abroad either perceive Croatia as being too dodgey a place to invest their money and Croats in Croatia see those from abroad as being too old fashioned and therefore there is almost no interaction on an economic level and in the end the country loses out in many investment opportunites.
Last year there was a conference of the 100 most wealthiest Croats in the US (Grupa 100) and in the end this amounted to nothing. Even the Croatian media in the end was asking what all the hype was about because it ended up as usual with no results.
Yeah, but they changed their name to Grupa 400 lol.
They havent done anything drastic yet. All those articles related to the group also contained a big dose of sensationalism how they were gonna turn Croatia into a new Switzerland overnight, invest billions of dollars into tourism, industries, agriculture etc.
Of course, it is a long process, may take up to five or even ten years. Everybody who thought they were going to shut down their businesses in the US for example, and transfer all technology and ship the equipment into Croatia, they are naive.
Members of this group have their interests, too, and they are used to function by laws abroad which unfortunately dont match laws in Croatia that well.
On the other hand, some members of the group wanted to buy some Croatian companies 'under the table' for small money without any tenders, also asking for many privileges (ie Sladorana Zupanja). So, after all it's not like all of them have that great intentions either.
My personal opinion regarding this group is that it is not nearly as organized as they tried to show it.
I remember how one founder of the group got disappointed when Ivo Sanader didnt show up at their big meeting in Cleveland last year, although the president of Croatian Economy Chamber came to the meeting followed by many business men from Croatia.
Now, what does it tell you? If you are into some business, wouldnt you rather hook up with ppl you share the same interests, instead some politicians. What the heck that founder wanted Ivo Sanader to come for?
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However, there have been many cases of our ppl returning to homeland bringing their businesses with them, and they are doing just fine. :)
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SinCity August 24th, 2005, 07:43 AM Dont mind me, I just sit on my throne in Sydney town and bitch all day at everything. :D
bubach_hlubach August 24th, 2005, 07:59 AM ^^ then you should sit on one of these wind turbines :D ;)
The island of Pag ;)
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Karlovac under snow :)
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Medieval games and performances - Dubovac, near Karlovac (this summer) :
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esseker August 24th, 2005, 06:37 PM Do you remember how mr Boris Mikšić announced the possible arrival of Toyota car manufactoring company to Vukovar? Is there any news about that?
And I know that he started to build a factory for productoin of eco-plastics in Beli Manastir in Baranja but I have no information on how the company is doing?
Daniela August 24th, 2005, 10:07 PM After some more travelling, this time inside Holland, I am back to work. Here is some good news for today:
"Construction firm Hidrocommerce to invest EUR 80mn in holiday village
The construction company Hidrocommerce said it would invest EUR 80mn in the reconstruction and modernisation of the holiday complex Dubrovacki vrtovi sunca near Dubrovnik . The company purchased the facility from the local company Dubrovacko Primorje in April paying EUR 13.5mn for it. Hidrocommerce plans to turn it into a five-star facility by 2007. The complex was destroyed during the 90s war in the country."
OettingerCroat August 25th, 2005, 01:45 AM REKORDAN TURISTIČKI PROMET
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DUBROVNIK – Dok je u mnogim hrvatskim turističkim središtima polovicom kolovoza osjetno smanjen broj turista, u Dubrovniku i svim mjestima najjužnije rivijere i dalje se bilježi skokoviti rast turističkog prometa. Prema podacima Županijske turističke zajednice, na cijelom županijskom području je od početka godine do 15. kolovoza ostvareno 3,073.117 noćenja ili 15 posto više nego u istom prošlogodišnjem razdoblju, s tim što će se prema najavama touroperatora takav trend nastaviti i u slijedećim mjesecima. U Turističkoj zajednici Dubrovnika informirani smo da je do 15. kolovoza na području tog grada zabilježeno 1,244.779 noćenja uz povećanje od čak 20 posto, a kako će se prema svim pokazateljima turistička sezona znatno produžiti cjelogodišnji rezultat će predstavljati apsolutni poslijeratni rekord. Zahvaljujući novim sadržajima ponude, te njihovoj većoj raznolikosti i kvaliteti, financijski rezultati su porasli po znatno višim stopama od evidentiranog porasta broja dolazaka i noćenja turista.
O trenutačnom stanju turističkog prometa u Dubrovniku može se zaključivati već i po velikim gužvama u javnom gradskom prometu, dugim redovima pred ulazima na gradske zidine, opsjednutosti muzeja u Kneževom dvoru, te prepunim izletničkim brodovima što isplovljavaju iz stare gradske luke. Prostori svih trgova i ulica unutar dubrovačkih gradskih zidina sada su toliko popunjeni ugostiteljskim stolovima i stolicama da se mnogim predjelima jedva prolazi. Ugostitelji zadovoljno trljaju ruke zbog goleme zarade, ali razloga za zadovoljstvo imaju i privatni iznajmljivači koji su od 1. do 15. kolovoza povećali broj noćenja za 48 posto prema prvoj polovici istog prošlogodišnjeg mjeseca (istodobno je u hotelima je bilo 15 posto više gostiju, u kampovima 27 posto više, a u marinama čak 90 posto). Najviše turističkih posjetitelja je iz Francuske, a zatim slijede Talijani, Englezi, Nijemci, Španjolci i Irci. Da je Dubrovnik izrazito izvozno orijentirana turistička destinacija vidi se po tome što je od početka godine do 15. kolovoza zabilježeno samo 99.289 noćenja domaćih turista. Međutim, unatoč tome što su dubrovačke cijene previsoke za standard prosječnih hrvatskih državljana, ipak je i u segmentu noćenja domaćih turista nastalo povećanje od 11 posto.
SinCity August 25th, 2005, 02:06 AM Do you remember how mr Boris Mikšić announced the possible arrival of Toyota car manufactoring company to Vukovar? Is there any news about that?
And I know that he started to build a factory for productoin of eco-plastics in Beli Manastir in Baranja but I have no information on how the company is doing?
Funny that you mentioned this Esseker as yesterday I was searching google for ages for news of the new plant.
From what I understand is that there could be a possibilty for Toyota which is in partnership with Peugot and they have been looking for a location for a new plant in central Europe. Vukovar Croatia is one of the options they are looking at because Croatia is one of the few countries in Europe that doesn't manufacture full motor vehicles. Croatia has pretty much all the firms that assemble vehicle components but no factory that makes complete cars.
The possible Toyota plant will be for a smaller production car to be sold regionally.
Slovenia by the way produces on a yearly basis 100,000 Renault Clios and Bosnia manufactures VW Golfs. So there is a possiblity Croatia will join all other European countries to produce cars in the years ahead.
VW is investing in what I believe is a new engine plant near Zagreb in Zapresic and the talk there is that in time it will be ugraded to manufacture full VW cars.
Croatia has always been of interest for car manufactures based on the fact of cheap wages and also many car components are already produced there.
bubach_hlubach August 25th, 2005, 04:05 AM ^^ Did you know that in the late 90's Audi was considering to open a car plant in Croatia, but Tudjmans arrogance blew off the investors? Later Audi built the car plant in Hungary, instead in Croatia.
:cheers:
OettingerCroat August 25th, 2005, 04:37 AM ^^ Did you know that in the late 90's Audi was considering to open a car plant in Croatia, but Tudjmans arrogance blew off the investors? Later Audi built the car plant in Hungary, instead in Croatia.
:cheers:
yah i heard, it got built in Gyor, Hungary. The Audi TT coupe/roadster is now made there, and many parts for the new Audi A6 are from Gyor.
SinCity August 25th, 2005, 06:13 AM Anyway, Mic of Orion came across this and basically the 1 millionth passenger coming thru Zagreb Airport this year was a Banja Luka resident flying from Budapest. Zagreb Airport always each year gives the 1 millionth passenger a a bunch of gifts when pass thru the terminal ......
Milijun putnika na Plesu
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Zračna luka Zagreb zabilježila je milijuntog putnika - profesor iz Banja Luke dobio je poklon-bon vrijedan 500€. Do kraja ove godine ukupni bi promet putnika mogao biti 1,5 milijuna putnika.
Milijunti putnik Zračne luke Zagreb je Aleksandar Granulić, profesor iz Banja Luke, na letu mađarske zrakoplovne tvrtke Malev Zagreb-Budimpešta-Ženeva.
Zračna luka nagradila ga je poklon bonom u vrijednosti 500 eura, a Malev s dvije besplatne povratne zrakoplovne karte do Budimpešte.
U razdoblju od siječnja do kraja srpnja ove godine Zračna luka Zagreb zabilježila je porast sveukupnog prometa putnika u odnosu na isto razdoblje prošle godine od 9 posto, kažu u toj zračnoj luci.
Pritom ističu kako su povećanju povećanje prometa putnika pridonijeli svi poslovni partneri, posebno nacionalni zrakoplovni prijevoznik Croatia Airlines.
Milijuntog putnika Zračna luka Zagreb lani je zabilježila 15. rujna, a nadaju da će iduće godine milijuntog putnika proslaviti već u srpnju.
HINA
24.08.2005.
SinCity August 25th, 2005, 06:52 AM ....... afterall we do have a coast to die for ....... :D
Kempinski Hotels chain will be building a brand new super luxury resort with more than 5 stars rating and a 29 villa complex in which each one will be over 500 sqms in size ...... :)
Hotelski lanac Kempinski u Hrvatskoj
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Stavljanjem potpisa na ugovor o poslovnoj suradnji, prestižni hotelski lanac Kempinski preuzet će upravljanje i vođenje turističkog kompleksa kojeg će do 2008. izgraditi kompanija Skiper Hoteli d.o.o iz Savudrije.
-U obavezi smo do proljeća 2008 izgraditi hotel i luksuzne vile kojima će upravljati Kempinski rekla je Ljubica Marfan članica Uprave Skiper hoteli d.o.o. Investicija izgradnje hotela sa pet plus zvjezdica i 29 luksuznih vila, svaka površine 500 četvornih metara, iznosi 750 milijuna kuna. (D.Ma)
bambam August 25th, 2005, 08:31 AM Nova banka utrostručila, a Volksbank udvostručio dobit u odnosu na prvo polugodište 2004.
Hrvatske banke u prvih su šest mjeseci ove godine ostvarile ukupno 1,775 milijardi kuna dobiti prije oporezivanja, što je tek 2,35 milijuna kuna više od polugodišnje dobiti banaka u 2004. Ovogodišnja polugodišnja bruto dobit banaka čini gotovo 49 posto dobiti hrvatskog bankarskog sustava (3,634 milijarde kuna) u cijeloj prošloj godini.
Prema privremenim nerevidiranim podacima Hrvatske narodne banke, od 34 banke pozitivno su poslovale 32, a samo dvije su iskazale gubitak. Naime, Primorska banka ostvarila je gubitak od 736.000 kuna, a Požeška minus od 5,266 milijuna kuna. Ukupna aktiva 34 banke krajem lipnja ove godine iznosila je 235,748 milijardi kuna, što je 2,81 posto više nego krajem 2004. U odnosu na kraj lipnja 2004., aktiva banaka povećana je za 23,65 milijardi kuna, odnosno za 11,15 posto. Stopa adekvatnosti kapitala iznosi 15,06 posto.Najveće banke ostvarile su i najveću dobit, no najveća - Zagrebačka - nije iskazala i najveću dobit, kao što je to bio slučaj ranijih godina. Privredna banka iskazala je 425,462 milijuna kuna dobiti prije oporezivanja, dok je Zagrebačka banka ostvarila 371,814 milijuna kuna dobiti. U odnosu na isto razdoblje 2004. bruto dobit PBZ-a veća je za 16,05 posto, dok je dobit Zagrebačke banke niža 42,5 posto. Dvije najveće banke zajedno su ostvarile gotovo 45 posto ukupno ostvarene dobiti bankarskog sustava.
Erste & Steiermärkische banka ostvarila je polugodišnju dobit prije oporezivanja u iznosu od 209,661 milijun kuna, Raiffeisen banka dobit od 171,37 milijuna kuna, HVB Splitska banka dobit od 170,139 milijuna kuna, a HAAB 126,322 milijuna kuna. Dobit Erstea veća je za 32,3 posto u odnosu na prvo polugodište li 2004., dobit Raiffeisen banke za 37,8 posto, a dobit HVB Splitske banke veća je čak 69 posto. Polugodišnja dobit Hypo Alpe-Adria banke veća je za samo 2,5 posto. Nova banka, inače u vlasništvu mađarske OTP banke, u odnosu na isto lanjsko razdoblje utrostručila je polugodišnju dobit prije oporezivanja (46,825 milijuna kuna). Hrvatska poštanska banka ostvarila je u prvih šest mjeseci 37 posto veću dobit nego u prvom polugodištu 2004., dok je Volksbank svoju dobit udvostručio.
Najveću aktivu i dalje ima Zagrebačka banka (59,294 milijardi kuna), dok je PBZ povećao aktivu za 3,84 posto, na 42,697 milijardi kuna. Najveći rast aktive u prvom polugodištu ove godine iskazala je Vaba banka (povećanje od 35,44 posto, na 189,8 milijuna kuna). Među većim bankama najveći rast aktive iskazale su Hrvatska poštanska (rast od 16,44 posto) i Slavonska banka (rast od 16,4 posto). Najveći pad aktive bilježi Karlovačka banka, čija je aktiva pala 13,5 posto, na 1,052 milijarde kuna. Smanjenje aktive HNB-u je prijavilo čak devet banaka.
Hrvatsko bankovno tržište i dalje je vrlo koncentrirano, budući da dvije najveće banke zajedno drže 43,26 posto tržišta. Četiri najveće banke drže 64,92 posto tržišta, a prvih šest banaka nadzire 81,75 posto tržišta.
esseker August 25th, 2005, 12:11 PM Funny that you mentioned this Esseker as yesterday I was searching google for ages for news of the new plant.
From what I understand is that there could be a possibilty for Toyota which is in partnership with Peugot and they have been looking for a location for a new plant in central Europe. Vukovar Croatia is one of the options they are looking at because Croatia is one of the few countries in Europe that doesn't manufacture full motor vehicles. Croatia has pretty much all the firms that assemble vehicle components but no factory that makes complete cars.
The possible Toyota plant will be for a smaller production car to be sold regionally.
Slovenia by the way produces on a yearly basis 100,000 Renault Clios and Bosnia manufactures VW Golfs. So there is a possiblity Croatia will join all other European countries to produce cars in the years ahead.
VW is investing in what I believe is a new engine plant near Zagreb in Zapresic and the talk there is that in time it will be ugraded to manufacture full VW cars.
Croatia has always been of interest for car manufactures based on the fact of cheap wages and also many car components are already produced there.
I remember Miksic or someone else said Vukovar would be the best place for a car factory cose of the Danube port and other traffic infrastructure. But so far nothing. Hopefully things will move from a dead point. If I hear something I will posti it. Untill then it's back to the data mines :)
And does anyone know at what stage is the building of the Danube-Sava canal?
Daniela August 25th, 2005, 04:36 PM More statistics about foreign tourists in Croatia. The number of tourists shopping in Croatia will increase without any doubt.
"Foreign tourist spending on Visa cards grows 142% y/y to USD 47.6mn in H1. Foreign tourists spent USD 47.6mn on their Visa cards in H1, which was 142% more y/y, the results of a survey carried out by Visa International showed. The biggest spenders were Italians with USD 7.8mn while the only non-Europeans in the top 10 were Americans with USD 3.1mn spending. The survey revealed that more than 40% of foreign tourists like to shop in Croatia and 80% of them were surprised by the good or excellent shopping opportunities in the country."
Daniela August 25th, 2005, 11:32 PM COMMITTEE TO PREVENT EXCESSIVE URBANIZATION OF COAST AGAINST SALE OF LAND TO FOREIGN NATIONALS
RIJEKA, Aug 25 (Hina) - Representatives of a committee set up to
prevent excessive urbanization along the Adriatic coast told reporters
in Rijeka on Thursday that the sale of land along the coast was an
introduction into a plunder of even bigger proportions than the
privatisation process.
Committee member Damir Urbanic said that numerous land plots were
being offered for sale under the pretext of tourism development at
prices which only foreign nationals could afford to pay.
Urbanic said this would result in the import of cheaper foreign
labour, failure to create new jobs and loss of profit.
The committee against excessive urbanization consists of members of
environmental organisations from the northern Adriatic Kvarner and
Istria regions.
SinCity August 26th, 2005, 01:53 AM I'm for the regulation of land sale as well. Lucky we have a huge coast and many islands but its important to keep as much of it under local ownership. :)
SinCity August 26th, 2005, 01:55 AM I remember Miksic or someone else said Vukovar would be the best place for a car factory cose of the Danube port and other traffic infrastructure. But so far nothing. Hopefully things will move from a dead point. If I hear something I will posti it. Untill then it's back to the data mines :)
And does anyone know at what stage is the building of the Danube-Sava canal?
I hope so too. BTW have they actually started on this canal project or is it something in the planning?
gwinczlav August 27th, 2005, 02:19 PM Rekordni industrijski rezultati
ZAGREB - U drugom tromjesečju ove godine Hrvatska je ostvarila rast industrijske proizvodnje od devet posto, što je najveći rast u posljednje četiri godine. Rekord bilježi i prerađivačka industrija, koja je u lipnju porasla za čak 15,2 posto u odnosu na prošlogodišnji lipanj. Trgovina na malo u istom razdoblju bilježi rast od sedam posto, izvoz je narastao za 13,3 a uvoz za devet posto, dok je broj turističkih dolazaka u lipnju veći za 5,3 posto u odnosu na prošlogodišnji lipanj. Inflacija je pak niža od tri posto. Ove je brojke i pokazatelje dobre Vladine gospodarske politike u petak na Vladinoj sjednici zadovoljno izrecitirao potpredsjednik Damir Polančec. Vlada je odobrila sklapanje predugovora s Međunarodnom bankom za obnovu i razvoj o predujmu za zajam namijenjen projektu integracije trgovine i transporta Luke Ploče. Predujam od 1,7 milijuna dolara iskoristio bi se za izradu projektne dokumentacije i ostalih pripremnih radova za izgradnju dva terminala u Luci Ploče kako bi radovi mogli početi 2007. Cijeli je projekt vrijedan oko 80 milijuna dolara.
[M.P.] Vjesnik
OettingerCroat August 27th, 2005, 05:38 PM ^^^^ good news about the industrial growth. what does this mean about GPD growth?
OettingerCroat August 27th, 2005, 05:51 PM Janša: Ne posežemo za hrvatskim teritorijem
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LJUBLJANA - Slovenski premijer Janez Janša izjavio je u subotu da Slovenija odlukom o proglašenju ekološke zone u Jadranu ne posiže za tuđim teritorijem niti želi izazvati sukob.
"Prihvaćeni prijedlog zakona o proglašenju ekološke zone i epikontinentalnom pojasu ne predstavlja posezanje za bilo čijim tuđim teritorijem niti je žarište bilo kakvog sukoba", komentirao je Janša odgovor hrvatske Vlade na odluku slovenske vlade koja je u četvrtak po hitnom postupku u parlament uputila prijedlog takvog zakona.
Državni tajnik za politička pitanja Hido Biščević u petak je u Ministarstvu vanjskih poslova i europskih integracija slovenskom veleposlaniku Andreju Bekešu uručio protestnu notu RH vezanu za odluku slovenske vlade o prihvaćanju Prijedloga zakona o proglašenju ekološke zone i epikontinentalnom pojasu, a upoznao je i veleposlanike država članica Europske unije i predstavnika Delegacije Europske komisije u Zagrebu sa stajalištem Hrvatske o odluci slovenske vlade kojom se prijedlog zakona o proglašenju ekološke zone
i epikontinentalnog pojasa upućuje u parlamentarnu proceduru.
Janša je, govoreći novinarima u Gornjoj Radgoni prilikom otvaranja međunarodnog poljoprivrednog sajma, rekao je da je spomenuta odluka slovenske vlade "pravni akt koji se zasniva na (slovenskom) pomorskom zakoniku".
"U njemu je jasno zapisano da Slovenija ima pravo na suverene zone na moru", rekao je Janša.
Slovenski je premijer ocijenio da je reakcija Hrvatske na takav potez Ljubljane bila "djelomice očekivana", ali je istaknuo da je i odluka slovenske vlade bila "očekivana", te da su predstavnici slovenske vlade u kontaktu s hrvatskim kolegama "pojasnili svoje razloge koji su razumljivi i široj javnosti".
Prema riječima slovenskog premijera, Slovenija je najavom proglašenja svoje jadranske zone i epikontinentalnog pojasa "učinila isto što su učinile i druge države uz Jadransko more", a da "kao pomorska država to nije učinila, djelovala bi neracionalno".
Slovenski tiskani i elektronski mediji danas pod velikim naslovima izvješćuju o navodnoj velikoj homogenizaciji hrvatske politike oko zaoštravanja odnosa sa Slovenijom.
"Hrvatska jedinstveno protiv Slovenije", piše o problemu slovenske jadranske zone i hrvatskim reakcijama ljubljansko "Delo".
Posebnu pozornost izazvala je i najava neimenovanog hrvatskog diplomata o prijedlogu po kojemu bi Hrvatska išla s inicijativom o stvaranju "tampon-zone" blizu crte razgraničenja na moru, kako ne bi dolazilo do konflikata.
Kako je javio Slovenski radio, slovenski ministar vanjskih poslova Dimitrij Rupel u petak navečer je u Debelom rtiču na slovenskoj obali izjavio da tu inicijativu shvaća kao eventualni uvod u razgovore s Hrvatskom "o razgraničenju morskih zona" u Jadranskom moru.
mic of Orion August 28th, 2005, 12:13 AM ^^^^ good news about the industrial growth. what does this mean about GPD growth?
It means several things,
1.st it could mean that significant growth in industrial production over period of time could or is stimulate(ing) the economy, exports, (imports as well) internal investment, domestic demand and lower unemployment....
It also means economy will be better prepared for macroeconomic uncertainties and government could calculate better on potential revenue and final GDP... (My Estimate for Croatian GDP in 2005 - 223.4Bn HRK - 38.2 Billion US$).
As to how much Growth in industrial production contributes to the overall GDP growths, it all depends which sectors of Industrial growth face significant growth, and it also depends on the size of Growth, but best calculations, about 3% of Industrial Growth = 1% Of GDP growth...
SinCity August 29th, 2005, 04:08 AM Its amazing it didn't expoded. 2m long and weighing at 250kgs :eek: .....
Unexploded WW II bomb found in Croatia
Zagreb, August 26, 2005
Authorities in the eastern Croatian town of Slatina said they might order citizens near a city park to evacuate their homes after an unexploded bomb from World War II was found there, news reports said.
The two-metre-long, 250-kilogramme bomb dropped from a bomber during the war was found six metres underground at a construction site on Thursday, the state-run HRT television said.
Police said they were unable to immediately defuse the bomb because some of its parts were damaged.
City authorities said they might order the evacuation of neighbourhoods near the park because police said they might need to detonate the bomb on the spot.
Indo-Asian News Service
SinCity August 29th, 2005, 04:27 AM Oh Mic ........ where are you?
Apparently they plan to build a new airport within 5 years on the island of Hvar (similar to the one on the island of Brac). Do you know anything about it?
Hvar is the most "in" island on the coast and they want to build on its popularity especially with the international jetset crowd. :D
mic of Orion August 30th, 2005, 02:00 AM Oh Mic ........ where are you?
Apparently they plan to build a new airport within 5 years on the island of Hvar (similar to the one on the island of Brac). Do you know anything about it?
Hvar is the most "in" island on the coast and they want to build on its popularity especially with the international jetset crowd. :D
I know they plan to build one on Korcula, Hvar and Vis, but this are all discussion, and money needs to be found...
SinCity August 30th, 2005, 02:03 AM ^^ They seem certain one will be up and running on Hvar in 5 years time from what I read. I thought you may have heard more since you're our aviations expert. I'll see if I can find out some more.
mic of Orion August 30th, 2005, 02:14 AM ^^ They seem certain one will be up and running on Hvar in 5 years time from what I read. I thought you may have heard more since you're our aviations expert. I'll see if I can find out some more.
They plan to build one small airport like on Brac but catered towards executive jets rather than proper passenger flights, project would cost about 50 million Kuna for terminal and apron, runway could cost another 30 million , for which there is no money, Government plans to give only 120-150 million Kuna for all 3 airports, thus Vis airport might never get built as a result...
SinCity August 30th, 2005, 02:21 AM Vis to me doesn't need an airport because its a sole island furthest off the coast. With Korcula, Hvar, etc, at least there are other islands, large ones at that in the vicinity.
IMO, I'd rather see any available funds go off towards the expansion of either Split or Dubrovnik airports. :yes:
mic of Orion August 30th, 2005, 02:38 AM Vis to me doesn't need an airport because its a sole island furthest off the coast. With Korcula, Hvar, etc, at least there are other islands, large ones at that in the vicinity.
IMO, I'd rather see any available funds go off towards the expansion of either Split or Dubrovnik airports. :yes:
Each of the major Airports have set amount given to them, Dubrovnik and Split have about 150 million Kuna each, but this is over next 3 years, Zagreb 1 billion Kuna and all other airports 250 million Kuna including new airports in Havar Vis and Korcula, in all 525 million US$ (3.2 billion Kuna over 5 years) was pus aside for Air traffic infrastructure in Croatia, only 30 or so million thus far have been spent, well more, 70 or so, cose of new Air traffic control centre in Zagreb...
As to Vis airport, ok, ask 3200 ppl in Vis island same question ,lol, they'll castrate you on a spot, lol JK
I don't know what is going to happen I know European Costal Aviation might use its airplanes to connect most of the smaller Islands this might also include Vis...
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
SinCity August 30th, 2005, 02:46 AM INA, Croatia's largest petroleum company (biggest also in ex-YU) is offering a further 15% of its shares to privatisation. Currently 75% of the company is government owned while the remainder is owned by MOL (Hungarian Petroleum firm).
International banks such as Citibank (US), HSBC (Hong Kong), Credit Suisse (Swiss), UBS (Swiss) are some of the banks queueing up for the privatisation contract. :)
The last sale of INA shares (25% to MOL) earned the Croatian government $US 505 million dollars.
The current sale of 15% is likely to reap the Croatian government another $US 350 million dollars.
The successful international bank that wins the privatisation contract is likely to earn $US 20 million dollars in commission pending the successful sale.
INA is highly successful abroad and is involved in many ventures of oil and gas exploration and extraction.
Currently INA, together in partnership with Hungarian MOL are set to take over Bosnia's primary petroleum and energy firm Energoprojekt ....
PRIVATIZACIJA Završen natječaj za izbor Vladina savjetnika u drugom dijelu privatizacije naftne kompanije
Najjače svjetske banke žele u privatizaciju Ine
Autor SNJEŽANA MLINAREVIĆ
Sve najjače investicijske banke u svijetu jučer su poslale svoje ponude za posao koji nudi Vlada RH savjetovanje, pripremanje i vođenje druge faze privatizacije Ine. Projekt se razlikuje od prve faze, kad je tražen i u MOL-u pronađen strateški partner koji kontrolira četvrtinu dionica. Ovaj put Vlada će na tržište kapitala plasirati 15 posto dionica koje mogu kupovati svi drugi investitori osim MOL-a, barem u inicijalnoj fazi. Plasman dionica na burzu složen je projekt za koji treba procijeniti vrijeme početka, treba znati raspoloženje zainteresiranih kupaca i konačno postići maksimalnu cijenu za dionice jer o tome ovisi i zarada savjetnika.
Otvaranje ponuda
Strane banke bile su obvezne po kriterijima natječaja naći u Hrvatskoj domaće partnere, što su svi i učinili te formirali konzorcije. Ponude su jučer predane u ranim poslijepodnevnim satima iako je rok do 24 sata. Otvaranje ponuda bit će danas, ali samo u krugu onih koji sudjeluju u poslu.
Ponude je predalo šest konzorcija. Švicarska banka UBS udružila se s Erste bankom i domaćom Hrvatskom poštanskom bankom kao sudionikom posla koji može prevagnuti jer bi dio novca ostao i u zemlji. Uz Zagrebačku banku i Interkapital, drugi konzorcij predvodi HSBC. Treća ponuda stiže od Credit Suisse, udruženom s Hypo bankom i Auctorom.
Četvrta je velika američka banka City bank zajedno s investicijskom kućom CAIB, a petu ponudu napisali su Raiffeisen banka i Marill Lynch. Zanimljivo je da je Stanly Morgan odustao jer se našao u sukobu interesa zastupajući MOL u prvoj transakciji, a kao njihov lobist u Hrvatskoj spominjao se Miomir Žužul. U igri ipak ostaju PBZ i Deutsche banka bez Stanleyja Morgana.
Vlada od savjetnika očekuje puno i u ovakvim transakcijama postižu se velike zarade. Obično je to od tri do pet posto ukupnog iznosa transakcije.
20 milijuna USD
S obzirom na to da 25 posto dionica Ine vrijedi 505 milijuna dolara (cijena koju je platio MOL), naknadnih 15 posto dionica vrijedit će najmanje 350 milijuna dolara, a sigurno znatno više jer se time otvaraju vrata prema većinskom vlasničkom paketu dionica. Savjetnike, dakle, očekuje najmanje 20 milijuna dolara, što je novac koji ne propuštaju uzeti ni najveće investicjske banke u svijetu.
SinCity August 30th, 2005, 02:52 AM Ina u Siriji potpisala ugovor o prodaji plina
ZAGREB - Ina je u Siriji potpisala dugoročni ugovor o prodaji plina sirijskoj nacionalnoj naftnoj i plinskoj kompaniji. Ugovor su u ime Ine potpisali predsjednik Inine Uprave Tomislav Dragičević i član Uprave Mirko Zelić, a u ime sirijske tvrtke dvojica generalnih direktora Ahmad Mualla i Ali Abbas.
Ugovor je svojim potpisom potvrdio i sirijski ministar nafte Ibrahim Haddad.
Potpisivanjem ugovora, priopćeno je u ponedjeljak iz Ine, započinje zajednički rad Ine i dviju tvrtki - Syrian Petroleum Company i Syrian Gas Company na razradi otkrivenih ležišta nafte i plina na Hayan koncesiji u Siriji. Istodobno će se graditi posebna plinska stanica, 50 kilometara sjeverozapadno od grada Palmyre, koja će omogućiti proizvodnju oko tri milijuna prostornih metara plina dnevno.
[D. M.]
In English ..... Syria's Ministry of Petroleum and Mineral Resources signs deal with Croatian firm (http://www.albawaba.com/en/countries/Syria/188237)
SinCity September 1st, 2005, 04:18 AM TRGOVINA Križevački trgovački lanac KTC kuca na vrata SiCG
U planu čak pet robnih centara u Vojvodini
Autor Ottone Novosel
KRIŽEVCI - Treći hrvatski trgovački lanac, križevačko obiteljsko poduzeće KTC, širi se i na tržište susjednih država, izlaskom u Srbiju i Crnu Goru. Vlasnik i predsjednik uprave Ivan Katavić potvrdio nam je da će idućeg tjedna potpisati ugovor o kupnji zemljišta u Vojvodini, a dotle ne bi želio otkriti s kim pregovara i tko će mu biti poslovni partneri.
- Tek nakon kupnje zemljišta i ovisno o tome što je povoljnije odlučit ćemo hoćemo li osnovati u Srbiji novo poduzeće ili će budući robni centri poslovati u sastavu postojećeg poduzeća. U svakom slučaju gradit ćemo tipske robne centre s pratećim restoranima po uzoru na 16 robnih centara u Hrvatskoj. Predviđamo izgraditi četiri, a možda i pet takvih centara, najavljuje Katavić. Smatra da je hrvatsko tržište već zasićeno domaćim i stranim trgovačkim centrima i da treba tražiti nove potrošače izvan zemlje. Na osnovi vlastitih istraživanja i iskazanog zanimanja ocijenio je da je Vojvodina vrlo pogodna.
Ne samo radi prodaje hrvatskih proizvoda i roba koje KTC uvozi iz zemalja Europske unije, nego i radi mogućnosti ugovaranja i otkupa poljoprivrednih proizvoda u Vojvodini. Križevački KTC se, naime, uz trgovinu sve više usmjerava na organizirani uzgoj i otkup povrća za industrijsku preradu i konzerviranje, a osim klasične proizvodnje planiraju i podizanje plastenika i staklenika, pa će vjerojatno pokrenuti i kooperaciju s vojvođanskim proizvođačima.
Obiteljski lanac KTC inače ima 16 robnih centara u 14 gradova u Hrvatskoj, u Križevcima, Bjelovaru, Koprivnici, Vrbovcu, Zaboku, Slatini, Požegi, Virovitici, Pitomači, Sisku, Kutini, Ivancu, Čakovcu i Pakracu. Zanimljivo je da od 7. rujna dva KTC-ova robna centra u Križevcima prvi put dobivaju snažniju konkurenciju otvaranjem supermarketa Bille u "Starom javoru". No, Katavić kaže da se ne plaši te konkurencije i da je dobrodošla jer će tek tada potrošači moći bolje ocijeniti gdje im se isplati kupovati.
bambam September 1st, 2005, 08:35 AM HAC je u tri mjeseca samo na autocesti Zagreb - Split naplatio 220,67 milijuna kuna cestarine, što je trećina lanjskoga prihoda te tvrtke
Vozači koji su putovali hrvatskim autocestama u lipnju, srpnju i kolovozu platili su ukupno 690,438.091 kunu cestarine, što je za 207,25 milijuna kuna više nego u istom razdoblju prošle godine. Podaci su to koje smo dobili od koncesionara Hrvatskih autocesta (HAC), Autoceste Rijeka - Zagreb (ARZ) i Bina Istre. Zanimljiva je i procjena prema kojoj se hrvatskim autocestama u navedenom razdoblju provezlo desetak milijuna vozila!
Valja reći kako je riječ o podacima za tri spomenuta mjeseca i da je razlika u prihodima tolika zbog otvaranja cijele autoceste Zagreb - Split, pa su, primjerice, prihodi od cestarina za taj smjer u HAC-u u odnosu na isto razdoblje lani uvećani čak 113 posto. Točnije, HAC je u tri mjeseca samo na autocesti Zagreb - Split naplatio 220,67 milijuna kuna cestarine, što je trećina prošlogodišnjeg prihoda ove tvrtke, koji je iznosio 774,6 milijuna kuna. Uz smjer Zagreb - Split cestarinu naplaćuje i na cestama Zagreb - Lipovac, Bregana - Zagreb, Goričan - Zagreb te mostarinu na otoku Krku.
Prema podacima HAC-a, najveći dnevni promet na 312 kilometara autoceste Bosiljevo - Split (drugi dio autoceste od Zagreba do Bosiljeva kontrolira i naplaćuje ARZ) zabilježen je u kolovozu i iznosio je 24.928 vozila.
Bina Istra još ne raspolaže podacima o dnevnom prosjeku vozila, ali David Gabelica iz toga društva rekao nam je kako je »naplata na razini očekivanja i nema problema u otplati kredita korištenih u gradnji«. Prihodi Bina Istre od cestarina naplaćenih na Istarskom ipsilonu u tri navedena mjeseca iznose 41,79 milijuna kuna.
Osim prema jugu, zabilježen je i veći protok vozila s istoka. Na autocesti Zagreb - Lipovac u tri navedena mjeseca, a u odnosu na isto razdoblje lani, zabilježen je broj vozila u prosjeku veći pet posto. Preračunato u kune, prihod od cestarine HAC-a na tom smjeru iznosio je 194,6 milijuna kuna!
Ne valja zanemariti ni 16,5 kilometara autoceste Rupa - Rijeka otvorene 1. srpnja. Na toj je cesti HAC u dva mjeseca naplatio gotovo pet milijuna kuna cestarine, što je najbolji dokaz važnosti toga smjera. Naime, preko graničnih prijelaza Rupa i Pasjak odvija se više od 50 posto ukupnoga turističkog prometa Hrvatske.
Nešto manji prihodi u posljednja tri mjeseca zabilježeni su na naplati mostarine na otoku Krku. Razlog je tome što je na krčkom mostu od 1. srpnja uvedena jednostrana naplata (naplatne kućice nalaze se samo iz smjera kopna prema otoku) zbog stalnog porasta prometa i ograničenih mogućnosti postavljanja novih naplatnih kućica. U HAC-u su, naime, dobro procijenili kako će se time postići bolja protočnost naplate u vrijeme pojačana prometa.
bambam September 1st, 2005, 04:51 PM Saša Randić
Hrvatska nema prostornu politiku
Predsjednik Udruženja hrvatskih arhitekata Saša Rendić govori o ukidanju Vijeća za arhitekturu pri Ministarstvu kulture, marginaliziranju arhitekture kao struke, nekontroliranoj gradnji i lošoj politici urbaniteta
Aleksandar Mijatović
Nakon što je, ukidanjem Agencije za zaštitu okoliša, građenje oslobođeno ograničenja koja mu je nametala zaštita prirode, od ovog bi ponedjeljka bilo kakav utjecaj na zahvate u prostoru mogla izgubiti i arhitektura jer je pred ukidanjem njezino kulturno vijeće. Ako se građenje oslobodi ekoloških i kulturnih okvira, ionako podivljalo događanje u prostoru poprimilo bi razmjere ravne elementarnoj nepogodi. Očito je da institut bespravne gradnje ne ide dalje od papira, dok na otocima, obali, u gradovima ima svega čega nema na papiru. No, prema predsjedniku Udruženja hrvatskih arhitekata Saši Randiću problem je dublji od pukog kriminala i prostornog profiterstva.
Prema novom prijedlogu Zakona o kulturnim vijećima arhitektura, njezini umjetnički i kulturni aspekti, više nisu u djelokrugu Ministarstva kulture. Tko je donio tu odluku i koje su njezine posljedice ako prođe saborsku proceduru?
– Mi smo do te informacije došli tek prošli tjedan i na sastanku Predsjedništva UHA-e smo raspravljali o toj odluci. Doznali smo da je takav prijedlog upravo upućen u saborsku proceduru, kao i da je održan okrugli stol na kojem je sudjelovao bivši ministar Vujić i Gradski ured za kulturu Grada Zagreba. Iz nekog razloga nitko iz strukovnog udruženja ni iz Vijeća za arhitekturu nije bio tamo, makar je naše vijeće jedino koje se ukida. Stoga smo ministru Biškupiću uputili otvoreno pismo u kojemu izražavamo stav da je riječ o neopravdanom potezu koji ne može biti produktivan za hrvatsku kulturnu politiku. Rasprave oko prijedloga nije bilo, a ako je i bilo, nitko iz UHA-e nije dobio poziv. Ministar Biškupić je u svojem odgovoru na naše pismo obrazložio ukidanje Kulturnog vijeća za arhitekturu time da Ministarstvo kulture nije matično ministarstvo za djelokrug arhitekture i urbanizma, nego da je njihov djelokrug unutar Ministarstva zaštite okoliša, prostornog uređenja i graditeljstva. To ministarstvo već ima Savjet prostornog uređenja države koji je osnovan prema Zakonu o prostornom uređenju. Međutim, tu je riječ o bitno drukčijem tijelu jer je područje rada tog savjeta u domeni propisa iz područja prostornog uređenja, dok umjetnički i kulturni aspekti djelovanja nisu pokriveni radom ovog savjeta.
Arhitektura kao pečat identiteta
Zašto arhitektura ostaje izvan djelokruga Ministarstva kulture?
– Područje arhitekture pokriva širok prostor, od utvrđivanja zakonskog okvira uređenja prostora do kulturnog i umjetničkog područja, a da bi se moglo sagledati samo u kontekstu prostornog planiranja. Jedno tijelo to ne može pokrivati, a niti ga po postojećem opisu rada Savjet prostornog uređenja ne pokriva. Savjet koji razmatra zakonsku regulativu, mjere za unapređenje u prostoru, utvrđuje, primjerice, prijedlog kazni za nelegalnu gradnju, istovremeno se ne može baviti i vrednovanjem arhitekture, pitanjima arhitektonskog izdavaštva, procjeni koje izložbene projekte treba podupirati ili ne... Time arhitektura postaje jedino strukovno područje za koje se dodjeljuje nagrada za umjetničko stvaralaštvo Vladimir Nazor, a istodobno nije u nadležnosti kulturnih vijeća. Arhitektura je iznimno značajna za prepoznavanje pojedine sredine u širem kontekstu. Reći ću to banalno – Bilbao ne bi bio Bilbao bez arhitekture. Europa danas podsjeća na onu iz renesansnog doba, gdje se gradovi i regije, a ne nacionalne države, nalaze u izrazito kompetitivnom okruženju u kojem je sposobnost definiranja vlastita identiteta i prezentiranja resursa osnovni kriterij usporedbe. Upravo je najčešće arhitektura sredstvo kroz koje se neka sredina pokušava dokazati, bilo kroz svjesno poticane projekte poput Bilbaa, bilo kroz interpretaciju onoga što se na tom području radi. Primjer takva grada je Barcelona , koja ima jaku arhitektonsku scenu, 1999. je dobila medalju RIBA (Royal Institute of British Architects) za arhitekturu. U taj kontekst se i Hrvatsku mora smjestiti. Jasno je da, ako imate neki način reagiranja u prostoru i na njega, kako ga gradite, kako izgleda neki suvremeni grad, na taj se način prepoznajete. Recimo Graz, koji je prošle godine bio Europski grad kulture, nametnuo se kroz arhitektonska ostvarenja. Malo je neobično da se morate nalaziti u poziciji da to morate dokazivati i tumačiti.
Prostorno prosvjetiteljstvo
Dakle, ovim je prijedlogom pozicija arhitekta i arhitekture pomaknuta na rub društva i kulture?
– Riječ o temeljnom pitanju je li naše društvo prepoznalo značenje arhitekture. Uzmimo, primjerice, aktualizirano pitanje naše obale gdje se kao glavno pitanje nameće koji je njezin novi identitet u 21. stoljeću. To ne može biti prostor 19. stoljeća, niti romantizirana slika naših Velih i Malih mista kako bismo možda htjeli da je obala nekad izgledala, a nije. To je pitanje prepoznavanje jedne šanse koju nudi arhitektura: hoće li se taj novi identitet uspjeti profilirati ili će, pak, naš prostor svjesno biti pretvoren u drugu krajnost, u svojevrstan theme-park Roka i Cicibele. Ovo je pitanje za cjelokupno hrvatsko društvo, a ne samo za arhitekte. Jedna struka ne može u suvremenom društvu preuzeti na sebe prosvjetiteljsku odgovornost za kvalitetu prostora, a ovakvi prijedlozi kojima se gotovo izbacuje arhitektura iz područja hrvatske kulture sigurno ne pomažu profiliranju suvremenog identiteta prostora.
Što je onda propušteno u slučaju gradnje bazena u Rijeci? Jasno da se s bazenom sada požurilo kako bi se Grad iskupio za treći put izgubljene Mediteranske igre, kao da ga nije trebalo i ranije graditi, prije same kandidature. Ovako je detaljni plan uređenja usvojen samo na osnovi prostornog plana uređenja, a posao je dobio Zopinni iz Milana i Congama.
– To je prije svega pitanje propuštene dimenzije koju je taj projekt mogao imati. Bazen je mogao biti jedan od kapitalnih projekata hrvatske arhitekture, poput Turinina bazena na Delti, ali je, nažalost, rješavan kao običan komunalan problem. Ako imate kapitalne objekte, najprirodnije je da za takve građevine raspišete arhitektonski natječaj. Natječaj je prije svega pitanje javnog interesa, jer je u interesu javnosti da se za takve građevine odabere najbolje rješenje, te da se na primjeren način projekt javnosti i prezentira. U ovom slučaju je propuštena prilika da se projektu da takva dimenzija, i sigurno da je sasvim druga slika sredine koja izabere projekt na osnovi kojeg će se graditi tako kapitalna građevina putem slučajnog uzorka i neposrednog dogovora.
Protiv arhitekture kao zadovoljavanja potreba
Naravno da se bazen trebao raditi mnogo prije: bila Rijeka mediteranski grad ili ne, bazen bi svakako trebala imati. Ali tu se javlja pitanje očekivanja: evidentna je potreba da Rijeka sagradi bazen, ali nameće se pitanje je li dovoljno zadovoljiti utilitarnu potrebu ili je sve skupa trebalo biti malo ambicioznije. Devedesetih smo zapali u sivilo u kojem su jedino društva arhitekata bila ta koja su poticala organizaciju natječaja, a način na koji je vođen ovaj projekt je karakterističan za to razdoblje. Pitanje obaveze organiziranja arhitektonskih natječaja počelo se rješavati u zakonskoj regulativi i vjerujem da će se napokon i sustavno riješiti, u trenutku kada se ne samo u kulturnoj nego i u političkoj javnosti počelo govoriti o potrebi očuvanja prostora i pitanju kvalitete gradnje.
U Zagrebu je usvojen GUP , kako obja š njavate č injenicu da u Rijeci nije ? S jedne se strane govori kako je problem GUP-a njegov obuhvat u suženim administrativnim granicama Rijeke, a s druge strane to je, kao i u slučaju bazena, pretvoreno u prednost: PPU i GUP se poklapaju, pa se detaljni planovi mogu donijeti na osnovi PPU-a. Želi li se iskoristiti ono što PPU "ne vidi"?
– Za razliku od drugih sredina u Hrvatskoj, u Rijeci su se radili detaljni planovi uređenja, ali je problem u tome što ovdje nije postojala generalna koncepcija razvoja. Nije definirano što bi Rijeka trebala postati, pa ako nemate takav generalni koncept, nemate ni generalni plan koji bi trebao odgovoriti na konkretne potrebe. Postojale su objektivne okolnosti za ovakvo stanje, riječka privreda prolazila je kroz potpunu transformaciju i ako nemate konkretan zahtjev za širenjem postojećih ili bilo kakvih novih sadržaja na prostoru grada, onda planiranje postaje apstraktna djelatnost, a stvari na terenu kreću svojim putem. Prostorni plan je stavio neku vrstu moratorija do usvajanja generalnog plana kojeg sada treba usvojiti. Ključno je pitanje ovog plana prostor Delte i Brajdice, golem prostor u središtu grada koji mora definirati identitet suvremene Rijeke. Kao što je Barcelona imala svoju dijagonalu i waterfront , tako bi se i u Rijeci trebao otvoriti razgovor o ovom prostoru.
Gradnja na obali – tema kongresa arhitekata
U pripremi je prvi međunarodni kongres arhitekata u Hrvatskoj. Što će biti tema kongresa i hoće li on značiti jačanje političkog i strukovnog utjecaja?
– Kongres će se održati od 14. do 16. listopada u Zadru, organizatori kongresa su Udruženje hrvatskih arhitekata i Razred arhitekata Hrvatske komore arhitekata i inženjera u graditeljstvu. Kongres je još u pripremnoj fazi, a naša zamisao je bila da ga tematski odredimo tako da se kroz konkretnu temu aktualiziraju problemi arhitekture. Tema kongresa je gradnja na obali i vrlo smo zadovoljni što je naša zamisao da održimo prvi kongres takve vrste zasad naišla na same pozitivne odjeke. Javnu najavu kongresa planiramo ovih dana, kada će svi detalji biti do kraja definirani.
Kakva je prostorna politika u Hrvatskoj?
– Nje nema. Naša je situacija specifična i karakterizira je pad razine planiranja od sedamdesetih godina kada su rađeni planovi i projekti za sjeverni i južni Jadran, metodološki daleko ispred svog vremena. Prvi put se pojam održive gradnje i održivog razvoja počeo primjenjivati u tim projektima, davno prije nego je usvojena Agenda 21 koja se sada dnevno citira i postaje fraza. Tada se polazilo od očuvanja prostora, a ne od zadovoljenja potreba. Današnju prostornu politiku karakterizira, pak, potpun zaborav prethodnih dostignuća i kontinuirano traženje idealnog pravnog mehanizma koji bi sam po sebi riješio problem. Hrvatski prostor je danas načet nekontroliranom gradnjom koja zauzima golemu površinu i mijenja fizionomiju naših gradova. Ovom fenomenu se pristupa kroz prizmu legalnosti zahvata, ali, nažalost, problem je mnogo dublji. Prvo, velik broj ovih građevina ima dozvole, a drugo, gradnja je, bila legalna ili ne, odraz kulturne razine nekog društva. Kako je nedavno rekao kolega Miće Gamulin, nema ničeg ljepšeg nego sagraditi kuću ili dom, a postigli smo da nam domovi budu ružni, a time i mi koji živimo u njima. Uzroci ovakva stanja su različiti. Teritorij Hrvatske je atomiziran na veliki broj gradova i općina, od kojih svaka ima jednake ovlasti i obaveze prema prostoru, ali ni uz najbolju volju ne može se očekivati da je moguće sve male zajednice odgovarajuće ekipirati. Problem je u tome da je upravo prostor tih manjih obalnih zajednica najugroženiji od najnevjerojatnih vizija.
Atomizirani urbanizam: jedna parcela – jedan projekt
Drugo, glavna kočnica urbanističkog planiranja je postalo vlasništvo zemljišta. Zemljišne knjige nisu sređene, ne postoje mehanizmi komasacije nužni za urbaniziranje prostora, zahvati su se reducirali na površine koje su vlasnički definirane. Tako smo došli do jednog krajnje atomiziranog urbanizma koji se događa na krajnje atomiziranom teritoriju. Najbolja ilustracija je program poticajne stanogradnje koja se događa prema istom modelu kao i privatne investicije. Kroz POS se nisu razvijali kvartovi i naselja, nego su se gradile pojedinačne zgrade. Jedna parcela – jedan projekt. Dakle, stanogradnja nije bila korištena za razvoj grada ili formiranje urbanističkih cjelina. Ali sve što je bila prepreka za jedan urbanistički razvoj u Hrvatskoj je, s druge strane, pomoglo da se u toj promjeni sustava ovo područje zaštiti od rasprodaje i spekulativnih investicija stranaca po modelu touch and go . Tako je naš prostor bio neka vrsta tropske zlatne ribice koja je prekrasna, ali je ne smijete pojesti jer je otrovna. Ovaj predah koji je omogućio nered može biti potencijalno i šansa za izbjegavanje pogrešaka koje drugi nisu uspjeli izbjeći, kako je nedavno uočio selektor 38. zagrebačkog salona Stefano Boeri.
MSU u Rijeci i dalje samo idejni projekt
Branko Franceschi, novi ravnatelj riječkog Muzeja moderne i suvremene umjetnosti, tvrdi da će početak gradnje zagrebačkog MSU-a ubrzati i potaknuti gradnju riječkog. Zagrebački je u fazi kamena temeljca, za riječki je ured Randić-Turato izradio idejni projekt, ali je krajem prošle godine obustavljena daljnja izrada dokumentacije. Što se događalo otada, ima li naznaka da će se nastaviti s radom ?
http://www.zarez.hr/127/images/Randic_Turato_MMSU%20Rijeka.jpg
– Mi, nažalost, ne možemo utjecati na dinamiku radova, ali nadamo se da će se uskoro s njima krenuti jer je doista riječ o izrazito značajnoj građevini za hrvatsku kulturu. Ovakve institucije su jaki generatori kulturnih događanja čija važnost prelazi lokalne granice. U tom smislu je gradnja muzeja za Rijeku daleko značajnija od Mediteranskih igara. Problem eventualno može nastati iz činjenice da i zagrebački i riječki muzej prelaze iz skučenih u mnogo veće prostore, što će tražiti i znatno više sredstava i više programa. Zagrebački muzej je na novoj lokaciji, dok je riječki lociran u bivšem industrijskom kompleksu Rikard Benčić kojeg se transformira u novi gradski prostor. Lokacija riječkog muzeja nije neuobičajena jer se muzeji često smještaju u takve prostore. Kako bi rekao Boris Groys, estetizacija je prvi korak transformacije nekog industrijskog prostora, pa je i muzej gotovo prvo što može pasti na pamet kad se postavi pitanje, što smjestiti u bivšu industrijsku zgradu. Za nas je bilo značajno da se otvaranjem ovog prostora gradskim sadržajima ne bi trebao banalizirati njegov izvorni duh. U takvoj situaciji postoje, naime, dvije vrlo osjetljive teme u odnosu na očuvanje izvornosti mjesta: prvo, da se građevina postavlja u urbani postav karakterističan za javne građevine toga doba, što T-građevina sasvim sigurno nije i, drugo, da se na taj način okoliš pretvara u jednako tako neindustrijski okoliš sličan, na primjer, prostoru okolišu Muzeja Mimara, što bi s gledišta očuvanja arhitektonske baštine bio potpuno pogrešan korak i svojevrsni falsifikat povijesnog konteksta. Umjesto takva monumentalnog prostora nastojao se primijeniti drukčiji koncept, prema kojemu vanjski prostor postaje dijelom događanja u samom muzeju ili pak njegova nadopuna.
OK ... clanak je star tocno godinu dana.. sta vi mislite o tome koliko toga je se pozitivnog a koliko u negativan smijer promijenilo?
bubach_hlubach September 1st, 2005, 08:29 PM Agrokor većinski vlasnik zrenjaninskog Dijamanta
1.9.2005.
Koncern Agrokor, kupnjom dionica od nekoliko dioničara, postao je vlasnikom većinskog paketa industrije ulja Dijamant iz Zrenjanina, potvrdili su danas u Agrokoru.
Cilj Agrokora, kako su pojasnili, je daljnje ulaganje i investiranje u Dijamant čime će učvrstiti poziciju kompanije kao jednog od regionalnih lidera. Agrokor ima više od 60 posto udjela u vlasništvu i blizu 80 posto glasačkog prava.
Nakon rješavanja pravno-formalnih pitanja potpisat će se i Ugovor o investicijama, vrijednim 15 milijuna eura koje će biti uložene u podizanje kapaciteta i gradnju novih Dijamantovih pogona, a uložit će se i 30 milijuna eura u otkup sirovina, kazali su u Agrokoru.
Sredinom srpnja generalni direktor te, najveće uljare u Srbiji, Savo Knežević, na konferenciji za novinare u Zrenjaninu objavio je namjeru Agrokora da od Investicijskog fonda za jugoistočnu Europu u Beču otkupi 26,9 posto dionica Dijamanta te dionice malih dioničara na burzi.
To su tada potvrdili iz zagrebačkog koncerna, naglasivši da je riječ o strateškom potezu, kojeg je bilo logično očekivati zbog proširenja poslovanja djelatnosti ulja, margarina i majoneze u regiji.
Inače, industrija ulja Dijamant iz Zrenjanina ima tvornicu u Zrenjaninu i Odžacima, te zapošljava 871 radnika u Zrenjaninu i 185 u Odžacima.
Ukupni prihod tvrtke lani je iznosio 9,36 milijardi dinara (oko 9,36 milijuna kuna).
Hina
bubach_hlubach September 1st, 2005, 08:32 PM Trend-ciklus industrijske proizvodnje: godišnji rast u srpnju 7,6 posto
1.9.2005.
Mjesečna industrijska proizvodnja u ovogodišnjem srpnju u usporedbi s industrijskom proizvodnjom iz srpnja prošle godine veća je za 7,6 posto, desezonirani je podatak koji je objavio Državni zavod za statistiku.
Ukupna industrijska proizvodnja u razdoblju od kolovoza 2004. do srpnja 2005. u usporedbi s razdobljem od kolovoza 2003. do srpnja 2004. veća je za 4,4 posto.
Prema lipnju, industrijska proizvodnja u srpnju bila je veća za 0,6 posto.
Ti su podaci izračunati iz indeksa trenda-ciklusa koji je serija desezoniranih indeksa iz koje je isključen utjecaj slučajne sastavnice.
Prema područjima Nacionalne klasifikacije djelatnosti (NKD), u srpnju 2005. u usporedbi s prethodnim mjesecom prerađivačka industrija bilježi rast od 0,7 posto, opskrba električnom energijom, plinom i vodom ostvarila je rast od 0,5 posto, dok je u rudarstvu i vađenju zabilježen pad proizvodnje za 0,8 posto.
Industrijska proizvodnja u prerađivačkoj industriji u srpnju 2005. u usporedbi s proizvodnjom iz srpnja 2004. porasla je za 9,7 posto.
Istodobno pak proizvodnja u rudarstvu i vađenju bilježi pad za 1,1 posto, a u opskrbi električnom energijom, plinom i vodom pad je iznosio 2,6 posto.
Usporedba posljednjih dvanaest mjeseci s prethodnih dvanaest mjeseci (prosječna verižna godišnja stopa promjene), pokazuje da je proizvodnja u prerađivačkoj industriji porasla za 5,6 posto. Porast bilježi i opskrba električnom energijom, plinom i vodom za 0,8 posto, dok je u rudarstvu i vađenju zabilježen pad proizvodnje za 5,4 posto.
Hina
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bubach_hlubach September 1st, 2005, 08:35 PM TVORNICA MOTORA I DIZALICA »3. MAJA« ISPUNILA DIO OBVEZE IZ PUNE KNJIGE NARUDŽBI
Isporučen brodski motor za latvijski tanker
RIJEKA – U trećemajskoj Tvornici motora i dizalica jučer je obavljena primopredaja glavnog brodskog dizel motora za kupca CROWN NAVIGATION INC. novogradnju 695, prvi iz serije od deset motora namijenjenih za latvijski program. Radi se o sporohodnom motoru »3. MAJ-SULZER« tipa 7RTA48TB, maksimalne ugovorene snage 9.650W kod 123 o/min. Tvornica trenutačno u knjizi narudžbi ima ugovorenih 21 motor, od čega 10 za izvoz u Koreju i Njemačku, u kooperaciji s licencodavcem i partnerom Wärtsilä Switzerland, te 27 brodskih dizalica koje će biti ugrađene u brodove što se grade u matičnom škveru, te u brodogradilištima Brodosplit i Brodotrogir.
Upravo su u tijeku razgovori s Wärtsilom Switzerland o novim poslovima čime bi se nastavio kontinuitet proizvodnje motora za izvoz i osigurala puna zaposlenost Tvornice za 2007. i 2008. godinu.
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bubach_hlubach September 1st, 2005, 09:19 PM Vjetropark na visoravni kod Ponikava
Ulaganje u vjetroelektranu, procijenjeno na 30 milijuna eura, predviđa izgradnju 17 WTG vjetrogeneratora ukupne snage 34 megavata, dostatne za očekivanu godišnju proizvodnju od 100 GWh i opskrbu 35 tisuća prosječnih kućanstava.
http://www.slobodnadalmacija.com/20050901/images/du21a.jpg
Na lokaciji Ponikovskih brda u općini Ston već sljedeće godine, prema projektu investitora dubrovačke tvrtke "EnerSys" d.o.o., trebala bi početi izgradnja prvog vjetroparka na području Dubrovačko-neretvanske županije.
Kako ističe Željko Samardžić, direktor hrvatskog Društva za inženjering obnovljivih izvora energije "Enersys", koje je u vlasništvu istoimene matične njemačke tvrtke, ulaganje u vjetroelektranu, procijenjeno na 30 milijuna eura, predviđa izgradnju 17 WTG vjetrogeneratora ukupne snage 34 megavata, dostatne za očekivanu godišnju proizvodnju od 100 GWh i opskrbu 35 tisuća prosječnih kućanstava.
— Projekt razvijamo već pet godina i konačno smo dogurali do studije utjecaja na okoliš, nakon čega slijedi ishođenje lokacijske i građevinske dozvole za radove u koje bismo krenuli tijekom sljedeće godine. Samo postavljanje postrojenja usklađenog s planskom dokumentacijom obavili bismo kroz šest mjeseci — kaže Samardžić i pojašnjava kako bi se postrojenje sastojalo od već spomenutih 17 stupova visine oko 65 metara, na kojima bi bili pričvršćeni rotori dijametra 70 metara.
Kod određivanja najpovoljnije lokacije za postavljanje vjetroparka, poštovani su kriteriji prema kojima budući energetski pogon mora biti izoliran od naselja, vizualno neupadljiv, s jakim vjetropotencijalom, te pogodan za priključenje na sustav opskrbe energijom i dopremu sekcija vjetrogeneratora velikih gabarita.
"EnerSys" je kao nositelj i investitor projekta utrošio tri godine na vjetromjerenja, te u koordinaciji s Hidrometeorološkim zavodom obavio procjene proizvodnih potencijala.
Električna energija koja bi se dobila od snage vjetra na visoravni kod Ponikava izravno bi se "ubacivala" u sustav Hrvatske elektroprivrede, a cijena za krajnjeg potrošača bi, s obzirom da se radi o obnovljivom izvoru energije, u početku bila nešto viša.
No trend pada cijene tako proizvedne struje primjetan je, kao i povećanje interesa za obnovljive izvore energije, posebno kod pomanjkanja fosilnih goriva, zaključio je Željko Samardžić.
Studija utjecaja na okoliš vjetroelektrane Ponikve u utorak navečer predstavljena je na javnom uvidu u općini Ston, gdje je naišla na dobar odaziv mještana, kaže pročelnik Jedinstvenog upravnog odjela stonske općine Ivica Barović.
— Lokacija iznad Ponikava od naselja Boljenovići do Dančanja, na platou izgorjele šume na visoravni, prihvatljiva je, udaljena je od naselja i time pogodna za vjetropark — kazao je Barović, napominjući da studija izrađivača zagrebačkog "Tehno inga" potvrđuje da vjetropark ne šteti okolišu, a može donijeti i financijsku korist vlasnicima zemljišta gdje bi se gradio pogon.
Gabrijela BIJELIĆ
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mic of Orion September 1st, 2005, 11:38 PM Tiny bit of great news for Croatian civil aviation, lol
All of Croatian airports are experiencing tremendous growth rates in passenger numbers as well as aircraft landings…
Dubrovnik, Split and Pula have all experienced tremendous growth in June, July and August, much as 30% growth at Dubrovnik and Split Airports…
Dubrovnik has broken all records in August by handling 200 000 passengers in single month, and July were particularly successful for Split when it handled 175 000 passengers… Dubrovnik is expected to handle 1.1 million passengers this year, Split 900 000 and Zagreb 1.55 million…
Expected passenger numbers at major Croatian Airports - 2005…
Zagreb – 1.55 million
Dubrovnik – 1.1 million
Split – 900 000
Pula – 325 000
Zadar – 150 000
bubach_hlubach September 3rd, 2005, 10:08 PM TIBO »3. MAJ« PROIZVEO ZGLOBNI ŠUMSKI TRAKTOR S BIO- DIZELOM KAO POGONSKIM GORIVOM
Riječki eko-traktor za europsko tržište
http://www.novilist.hr/images/clanci/2005/9/157255.jpg
Novi riječki traktor kao pogonsko gorivo koristi biodiezel te biorazgradiva ulja, pokreće ga motor snage 42 kW uz iznimno malu potrošnju goriva i jedini je takvog tipa na europskom tržištu. Planira se proizvodnja 30-ak takvih traktora godišnje
UČKA – U suradnji s Brodarskim institutom i uz potporu Ministarstva znanosti, riječka Tvornica industrijske i brodske opreme TIBO »3. maj« proizvela je zglobni šumski traktor TIBOTRAC FM-03, koji kao pogonsko gorivo koristi biodiezel te biorazgradiva ulja, a u tom segmentu riječ je o traktoru koji maksimalno poštuje najstrože ekološke kriterije i po tome spada u jedini takvog tipa na europskom tržištu. Na šumskom području Učke u blizini Veprinca jučer su testirane i predstavljene mogućnosti ovog hrvatskog proizvoda, kojeg pokreće motor snage 42 kW uz iznimno malu potrošnju goriva od jedne litre po kubnom metru drvene građe. Kako ističe direktor TIBO-a Božo Milković, novi riječki traktor tek treba pronaći svoje mjesto na domaćem, ali i stranom tržištu.
– Ovo je proizvod vrhunske kvalitete, koju želimo dokazati svim potencijalnim naručiteljima. Sve osim motora njemačke tvrtke HATZ i guma jest hrvatski proizvod i naš je plan da počnemo proizvoditi 30-ak traktora godišnje, čime bi se otvorilo stotinjak radnih mjesta. Upravo poštovanje ekoloških kriterija predstavlja najveću kvalitetu traktora i budući da takvog proizvoda nema ne samo u Europi, već ni u svijetu, vjerujem da možemo pronaći svoje mjesto i na stranom tržištu te tako snažnije krenuti u serijsku proizvodnju, kazao je Milković, dodajući da je riječki traktor posljednjih nekoliko mjeseci testiran u NP Risnjak, nakon čega će raditi na području Učke, a zatim vjerojatno biti izložen na sajmu u Kočevju, u Sloveniji.
Za projekt razvoja ovog proizvoda Ministarstvo znanosti izdvojilo je 1,5 milijuna kuna, a prvu ocjenu mogućnosti riječkog traktora dao je upravitelj Šumarije Opatija Slaven Kulić.
– Biodizel kao gorivo predstavlja budućnost u hrvatskim i europskim državnim šumarijama i to će vjerojatno uskoro postati zakonom propisana obveza. Mislim da traktor zadovoljava sve zahtjeve i da će se to potvrditi i na testiranjima koja slijede, zaključuje Kulić.
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AstroBoy September 4th, 2005, 01:24 PM Very interesting Bubach. :)
SinCity September 5th, 2005, 03:23 AM Glumica Anna Falchi želi kupiti otok
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050826/fal-1.jpg
Anna Falchi, 32-godišnja talijanska filmska glumica i manekenka, koja se nedavno udala za 42-godišnjeg rimskog poduzetnika Stefana Ricuccija namjerava kupiti jedan od 14 otoka Brijunskog otočja ili neki drug otočić u sjevernom Jadranu, doznajemo od jednog hrvatskog trgovca nekretnina. Poznati bračni par zainteresiran je za kupnju otoka Sv. Jerolima ili Galije u brijunskom arhipelagu, i otočića Zeča u blizini našeg najvećeg otoka Cresa.
bubach_hlubach September 5th, 2005, 03:57 AM lol, ovo se zove pothvat stoljeca. Kupiti otok u Hrvatskoj znaci baciti novac u vjetar, jer se prakticki otok ne moze ni kupiti - zakon o pomorskom dobru to savrseno preventira :)
Nevjerovatno koja smo mi drzava, samo zajebavamo ljude :D
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Sarajka September 5th, 2005, 04:25 AM http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050826/fal-1.jpg
Is she going to pay with those? :)
MIMICA September 5th, 2005, 04:39 AM Glumica Anna Falchi želi kupiti otok
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050826/fal-1.jpg
Anna Falchi, 32-godišnja talijanska filmska glumica i manekenka, koja se nedavno udala za 42-godišnjeg rimskog poduzetnika Stefana Ricuccija namjerava kupiti jedan od 14 otoka Brijunskog otočja ili neki drug otočić u sjevernom Jadranu, doznajemo od jednog hrvatskog trgovca nekretnina. Poznati bračni par zainteresiran je za kupnju otoka Sv. Jerolima ili Galije u brijunskom arhipelagu, i otočića Zeča u blizini našeg najvećeg otoka Cresa.
Wherever she goes, I go. :D :lol:
bubach_hlubach September 5th, 2005, 04:48 AM Mimica, behave! Those fruits she is trying to lift with her hands, they might actually kill ya :D
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Sarajka September 5th, 2005, 04:50 AM ^ I have a funny feeling, if she let go, the results wouldn't be too pretty. :)
SinCity September 5th, 2005, 05:04 AM Is she going to pay with those? :)
LOL. A pair of Italian melons for an island? :D
Sarajka September 5th, 2005, 05:05 AM LOL. A pair of Italian melons for an island? :D
Why not? :) It's a Croatian island - it's not like we're talking about Cyprus. :D
MIMICA September 5th, 2005, 05:06 AM Does Croatia just sell Islands? I mean...Do they actually loose their land like that? So, I could make my own country on an island? :D
SinCity September 5th, 2005, 05:14 AM Does Croatia just sell Islands? I mean...Do they actually loose their land like that? So, I could make my own country on an island? :D
You can purchase land on the island but not the island itself. Its no different to buying property on the mainland. It basically comes down to price and if you can purchase the total surface area of an island then I guess you could say you own the island, but its always going to be recognised as Croatian territory.
If Anna offers her butt on top of her melons perhaps she can coax them into giving here a bigger island LOL. :D
Sarajka September 5th, 2005, 05:16 AM ^ She'll need a fairly big island to begin with. I'm telling you...if she took her hands away, you wouldn't know whether to shit or go blind you'd be so scared.
SinCity September 5th, 2005, 05:23 AM ^ She'll need a fairly big island to begin with. I'm telling you...if she took her hands away, you wouldn't know whether to shit or go blind you'd be so scared.
:D
bubach_hlubach September 5th, 2005, 05:31 AM Does Croatia just sell Islands? I mean...Do they actually loose their land like that? So, I could make my own country on an island? :D
The thing is you cannot buy an island in Croatia, at least not a whole one. Here i am talking about those little unpopulated islands, not about Hvar, Krk, Cres, Rab, Losinj, Korcula etc etc etc lol
Then once you 'bought' an island, there's a whole bunch of restrictions you have to face - you do not own and cannot control those 100 meters of it from the shore towards inland (most of these islands are just 300 meters wide anyway lol), then you are not allowed to built anything, unless state allows it, and that means you gotta have damn strong nerves :D
What sucks more about these 'wild' islands is that there's no infrastructure, no phone lines, no electricity, no water, just a big nothing - a small piece of land surrouned by sea :)
On many of these people didnt even step on, but i heard from some fishermen that they used to see sharks making campfire :runaway: :D
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SinCity September 5th, 2005, 05:39 AM ^^ I'm sure Anna only wants to wonder around naked on her deserted Croatian island. :D
Sarajka September 5th, 2005, 05:54 AM ^^ I'm sure Anna only wants to wonder around naked on her deserted Croatian island. :D
She doesn't need to buy one for that.
Besides it's more realistic if you're rescued by a sexy Croat from an island you don't actually own.
Trust me. ;)
Okay, so it wasn't an island...and there wasn't really a rescue involved...and the cross around his neck was a turn off at first, especially after we'd been together and I had to ask him to take it off next time because it was hanging down right in my face and convincing me I was going to hell. :D
SinCity September 5th, 2005, 06:01 AM She doesn't need to buy one for that.
Besides it's more realistic if you're rescued by a sexy Croat from an island you don't actually own.
Trust me. ;)
Okay, so it wasn't an island...and there wasn't really a rescue involved...and the cross around his neck was a turn off at first, especially after we'd been together and I had to ask him to take it off next time because it was hanging down right in my face and convincing me I was going to hell. :D
LOL. I too have had my naked seaside frolics on the coast. ;)
Sarajka September 5th, 2005, 06:20 AM LOL. I too have had my naked seaside frolics on the coast. ;)
That's what you think I meant? Hehehe.
Groovy.
bubach_hlubach September 5th, 2005, 06:42 AM ^^ I'm sure Anna only wants to wonder around naked on her deserted Croatian island. :D
Well, as long as she doesnt drop the fruits, we can be sure the island will not get flooded :D
^Typical 'seljo-beljo' comment, huh ? :lol : ;)
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SinCity September 5th, 2005, 07:18 AM Anyway, to steer this topic away from the rather dangerous issue of Anna Falchi, her melons and naked frolics in Dalmatia :D .....
Croatian school children are set for a rather nasty surprise now that they have returned to school today. The latest Croatian SMS software technology is being sold successfully abroad. Bosnian & Slovenian school children are soon to suffer much like their Croatian counterparts LOL :D ......
School records by mobile phone
Career & Education
Sunday, September 04, 2005
ZAGREB, Croatia (AFP) - Croatian children will find it more difficult to mess up in school and keep it secret this year as information about their performance will be available to parents at the touch of a mobile phone button, an official said Friday.
Thanks to a programme financed by the education ministry, parents can opt to receive reports about their children's school achievements and attendance via SMS text messages, Drazen Vikic Topic of the education ministry said.
"Parents will receive general information on school events, activities as well as on children's behaviour and marks," he said.
"They will also be informed about children's absence and homework assignments."
To use the programme called "SMS school information", parents will have to pay 30 kunas (four euros, five dollars) per month.
A total of 115 primary and secondary schools will introduce the programme as of this school year.
The pilot project was introduced last year in a Zagreb high school.
"The results were excellent. This proved to be a great new way to quickly and easily access all information," Nada Maric, the school headmaster told the Vjesnik daily.
"If a child does not appear in school the parent will know within 10 minutes."
It is a unique Croatian product, said Ante Caric, an official of the Kate-Kom company, which developed the software.
The programme has already been sold to Russia while negotiations are ongoing to sell it in Bosnia-Herzegovina, the Czech Republic, Iran, Slovakia and Slovenia, he added.
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/20050903T160000-0500_87514_OBS_SCHOOL_RECORDS_BY_MOBILE_PHONE_.asp
MIMICA September 5th, 2005, 07:21 AM Anyway, to steer this topic away from the rather dangerous issue of Anna Falchi, her melons and naked frolics in Dalmatia :D .....
Croatian school children are set for a rather nasty surprise now that they have returned to school today. The latest Croatian SMS software technology is being sold successfully abroad. Bosnian & Slovenian school children are soon to suffer much like their Croatian counterparts LOL :D ......
School records by mobile phone
Career & Education
Sunday, September 04, 2005
ZAGREB, Croatia (AFP) - Croatian children will find it more difficult to mess up in school and keep it secret this year as information about their performance will be available to parents at the touch of a mobile phone button, an official said Friday.
Thanks to a programme financed by the education ministry, parents can opt to receive reports about their children's school achievements and attendance via SMS text messages, Drazen Vikic Topic of the education ministry said.
"Parents will receive general information on school events, activities as well as on children's behaviour and marks," he said.
"They will also be informed about children's absence and homework assignments."
To use the programme called "SMS school information", parents will have to pay 30 kunas (four euros, five dollars) per month.
A total of 115 primary and secondary schools will introduce the programme as of this school year.
The pilot project was introduced last year in a Zagreb high school.
"The results were excellent. This proved to be a great new way to quickly and easily access all information," Nada Maric, the school headmaster told the Vjesnik daily.
"If a child does not appear in school the parent will know within 10 minutes."
It is a unique Croatian product, said Ante Caric, an official of the Kate-Kom company, which developed the software.
The programme has already been sold to Russia while negotiations are ongoing to sell it in Bosnia-Herzegovina, the Czech Republic, Iran, Slovakia and Slovenia, he added.
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/20050903T160000-0500_87514_OBS_SCHOOL_RECORDS_BY_MOBILE_PHONE_.asp
The same has been done in Bosnia and Herzegovina. The teachers ask for the parents mobile numbers, and send them their childs grades every week. Very smart!
mic of Orion September 5th, 2005, 06:04 PM The thing is you cannot buy an island in Croatia, at least not a whole one. Here i am talking about those little unpopulated islands, not about Hvar, Krk, Cres, Rab, Losinj, Korcula etc etc etc lol
Then once you 'bought' an island, there's a whole bunch of restrictions you have to face - you do not own and cannot control those 100 meters of it from the shore towards inland (most of these islands are just 300 meters wide anyway lol), then you are not allowed to built anything, unless state allows it, and that means you gotta have damn strong nerves :D
What sucks more about these 'wild' islands is that there's no infrastructure, no phone lines, no electricity, no water, just a big nothing - a small piece of land surrouned by sea :)
On many of these people didnt even step on, but i heard from some fishermen that they used to see sharks making campfire :runaway: :D
:cheers:
I agree with most, you actually can't buy island, well at least not in Croatia, you can lease it for given period, say 25, 50, 75 or 100 years...
And on Brioni Archipelago, it is impossible to buy/lease islands, it is National Park, and thus it is protected as national treasure, any construction or anything else even on the main islands requires Governmental approvals,. procedures, height restrictions and what not.... And as it is Presidential retreat, it is unlikely any construction could go without explicit Presidential and Parliamentary approvals ...
And if this Italian Bimbo wants to buy (an) Island, I hear Reykjavik is great place this time of the year, JK...
mic of Orion September 5th, 2005, 11:14 PM http://www.railfaneurope.net/ric/electric_locomotives.htm
OK Guys remember few weeks ago we talked of possible ICE train sets, well Croatian Railways officially now are testing 3 EMU train sets, All 3 sets are tilting trains and can achieve max speed of 240kmph... Successful bidder will supply up to 10-12 Sets (cost up to 100 million US$) sometimes in 2007/8...
New trains will replace older Intercity Express Trains...
Price per Train-Set ranges between 8.2-10.2 million US$...
Cisalpino Set
http://www.cisalpino.com/images/albumgross/albumgross5.jpg
http://www.cisalpino.com/images/albumgross/albumgross4.jpg
http://www.cisalpino.com/images/albumgross/albumgross1.jpg
Pandolino Set
http://www.virgintrains.co.uk/img/photos/gallery/pendolino/pendolino_prints_4.jpg
http://www.virgintrains.co.uk/img/photos/gallery/pendolino/pendolino_prints_2.jpg
ICE Set -T
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/electric/emu/ICE/ICE-T/415/Switzerland-misc/ICT-sbb.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/electric/emu/ICE/ICE-T/415/Switzerland-misc/sbb19990628.jpg
OettingerCroat September 5th, 2005, 11:50 PM all other trains suck compared to the ice cubes and trays.....
mirza-sm September 6th, 2005, 12:08 AM Anyway, to steer this topic away from the rather dangerous issue of Anna Falchi, her melons and naked frolics in Dalmatia :D .....
Croatian school children are set for a rather nasty surprise now that they have returned to school today. The latest Croatian SMS software technology is being sold successfully abroad. Bosnian & Slovenian school children are soon to suffer much like their Croatian counterparts LOL :D ......
School records by mobile phone
Career & Education
Sunday, September 04, 2005
ZAGREB, Croatia (AFP) - Croatian children will find it more difficult to mess up in school and keep it secret this year as information about their performance will be available to parents at the touch of a mobile phone button, an official said Friday.
Thanks to a programme financed by the education ministry, parents can opt to receive reports about their children's school achievements and attendance via SMS text messages, Drazen Vikic Topic of the education ministry said.
"Parents will receive general information on school events, activities as well as on children's behaviour and marks," he said.
"They will also be informed about children's absence and homework assignments."
To use the programme called "SMS school information", parents will have to pay 30 kunas (four euros, five dollars) per month.
A total of 115 primary and secondary schools will introduce the programme as of this school year.
The pilot project was introduced last year in a Zagreb high school.
"The results were excellent. This proved to be a great new way to quickly and easily access all information," Nada Maric, the school headmaster told the Vjesnik daily.
"If a child does not appear in school the parent will know within 10 minutes."
It is a unique Croatian product, said Ante Caric, an official of the Kate-Kom company, which developed the software.
The programme has already been sold to Russia while negotiations are ongoing to sell it in Bosnia-Herzegovina, the Czech Republic, Iran, Slovakia and Slovenia, he added.
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/20050903T160000-0500_87514_OBS_SCHOOL_RECORDS_BY_MOBILE_PHONE_.asp
Oh noooooo.. thats why we had to fill out some paperworks including our mobilephone numbers,e-mails,and our parents mobilephone numbers today in school :uh: :runaway:
mirza-sm September 6th, 2005, 12:14 AM And btw im really happy to see that Croatia is introducing high speed trains as well as Bosnia and Herzegovina is ;) the dates are actually quite near :applause: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=5304038&postcount=264
SinCity September 6th, 2005, 01:28 AM http://www.railfaneurope.net/ric/electric_locomotives.htm
OK Guys remember few weeks ago we talked of possible ICE train sets, well Croatian Railways officially now are testing 3 EMU train sets, All 3 sets are tilting trains and can achieve max speed of 240kmph... Successful bidder will supply up to 10-12 Sets (cost up to 100 million US$) sometimes in 2007/8...
New trains will replace older Intercity Express Trains...
Price per Train-Set ranges between 8.2-10.2 million US$...
ICE Set -T
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/electric/emu/ICE/ICE-T/415/Switzerland-misc/sbb19990628.jpg
Great news Mic! I definately like this one above the most. The look of it for sure. I'm not too sure how they rate up against one another in performance.
mic of Orion September 6th, 2005, 01:52 AM ^Thanx SC, I don't know which is best, ICE-T is slowest of the 3, it only achieves 230kmph, other 2 can go 240kmph...
Pandolino is smallest, Cisalpino is most comfortable, but best is ICE-T cose it can go Diesel or Electric... :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
SinCity September 6th, 2005, 02:06 AM Panolino is use in Slovenia .... is that correct Mic?
mic of Orion September 6th, 2005, 02:11 AM Panolino is use in Slovenia .... is that correct Mic?
No hey use ERS450's which are early version of Cisalpino...
These are very comfortable trains I think most comfortable high speed trains (HST) out there, but they look ugly (my opinion), design is outdated, 80's me think, lol...
SinCity September 6th, 2005, 03:04 AM This city just doesn't sleep. They basically eat, sleep and make business and more business. :yes:
Varaždin which is located north west of Zagreb is truely becoming Croatia's industrial powerhouse with more investments than any other city outside of Zagreb and it just doesn't stop. Varaždin is being studied by other parts of Europe regarding their outstanding performance and strategies.
The latest city government initiative is another new commercial zone called "Brezje" on the city's outskirts which lies beside the Zagreb-Goričan motorway.
Basically a former chemical dump on a site of approx. 800,000 metres is set to become a new biotechnological business park which will house new pharmaceutical firms and the like. Talks are happening with an important Swiss pharmaceutical investor to anchor the big project. :yes:
Its most likely this project will instigate more considerable growth and employment opportunites for the Varaždin district. :yes:
On top of this the previous 2 industrial zones are already full so the local government is proposing new trade zones in adjacent municipalities.
Screw Ivo Sanader, I want Ivan Čehok for prime minister and I want it now! :bow:
PROJEKTI Varaždin gradi novu poduzetničku zonu nedaleko od autoceste
Biotehnologija umjesto otpada
Autor Željko Pavlek
Zbog nove poduzetničke zone na novu lokaciju seli dvorište za skladištenje komunalnog otpada
Osim Slobodne zone i Zone malog poduzetništva grad Varaždin gradit će i novu poduzetničku zonu "Brezje" nedaleko od autoceste Goričan Zagreb koja bi trebala postati zamašnjak budućega gospodarskog razvitka šireg varaždinskoga kraja. Na 800.000 četvornih metara gradskog zemljišta planira se gradnja biotehnološkog parka u kojem bi se smjestile farmaceutska, nutricionistička i druga srodna industrija.
U igri švicarska tvrtka
Predstavnici grada već su o tome pregovarali s tvrtkom iz Švicarske koja je zainteresirana za organizaciju biotehnološkog parka, ali i razvojnog biotehnološkog instituta u Varaždinu. Ovaj će tjedan biti raspisan i javni natječaj za strateškog partnera za ostvarenje ovog velikog projekta. Zbog nove poduzetničke zone "Brezje" sa sadašnje lokacije na novu će biti premješteno dvorište za skladištenje i baliranje gradskoga komunalnog otpada.
Ovih dana u javnost su procurile informacije da je grad predložio susjednim općinama Jalžabetu i Knegincu Gornjem okrupnjivanje nove gradske s općinskim industrijskim zonama.
Varaždinski gradonačelnik dr. Ivan Čehok potvrdio nam je jučer tu informaciju i rekao da je za ujedinjavanje triju poduzetničkih zona u jednu već dobio načelnu potporu općinskih vlasti Kneginca i Jalžabeta.
Povoljna lokacija
Treba istaknuti i to da je u Poduzetničkoj zoni Kneginca Gornjeg prije nekoliko mjeseci tvornicu za proizvodnju ženskih čarapa sagradila talijanska grupacija Calzedonia. Povoljna lokacija buduće varaždinske poduzetničke zone "Brezje" i obližnje poduzetničke zone Kneginec, udaljenih samo 20 kilometara od mađarske i slovenske granice te 60 kilometara od Zagreba, u neposrednoj blizini autoceste, pravi je mamac za strane, ali i domaće ulagače. To više jer u Slobodnoj zoni Varaždin i Zoni malog poduzetništva više nema slobodnih parcela.
Varaždin gradi novu poduzetničku zonu nedaleko od autoceste (http://www.vecernji-list.hr/newsroom/economics/368290/index.do)
SinCity September 6th, 2005, 03:06 AM ^^ A few more tennants have signed up :) ....
MIV i Varteks gradit će pogone u novoj zoni.
U novoj poduzetničkoj zoni "Brezje" proizvodne pogone po svemu sudeći gradit će i varaždinska poduzeća MIV i Varteks. MIV je već započeo projekt preseljenja ili gradnje novog suvremenog proizvodnog pogona na novoj lokaciji u poduzetničkoj zoni, za što je dobio potporu i međunarodnih financijskih institucija. Predstavnici Varteksa pak pregovaraju s čelnicima gradske vlasti o mogućoj gradnji novih pogona u budućoj zoni, što nam je jučer potvrdio i Zoran Košćec, predsjednik uprave te varaždinske tekstilne kompanije. No ipak nam nije htio otkriti pojedinosti pregovora. (Ž. P.)
SinCity September 6th, 2005, 03:12 AM In the first 8 months of 2005, Croats purchased nearly 50,000 new motor vehicles continuing year after year trends ...
Registrirano 48.469 novih osobnih vozila
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/050905/gos_auti.jpg
U Hrvatskoj je u osam mjeseci ove godine registrirano 48.469 novih osobnih vozila, od kojih 4742 u kolovozu, podaci su MUP-a koje prenosi agencija Promocija Plus.
U usporedbi s istim razdobljem prošle godine, u kojemu su registrirana 49.634 nova putnička vozila, tržište novih vozila slabije je 2,35 posto, dok je u kolovozu registrirano 1,72 posto više vozila nego u istom mjesecu lani.
Najviše je prodano novih Opelovih vozila 7996, a ta je marka u osam mjeseci ostvarila tržišni udjel od 16,5 posto. (H)
The days of seeing nothing but shitty Serbian built "Yugos" are long gone. Opel being the most popular purchase. :)
mic of Orion September 6th, 2005, 03:12 AM ^Varazdin and Cakovc must have very low unemployment, it looks as most productive cities in Croatia apart from Zagreb...
Impressive, now if all other places in Croatia pick up and learn few things from Varazdin example I'm sure they benefit there own communities not even mentioning unemployment which would be drastically reduced...
SinCity September 6th, 2005, 03:16 AM ^Varazdin and Cakovc must have very low unemployment, it looks as most productive cities in Croatia apart from Zagreb...
Impressive, now if all other places in Croatia pick up and learn few things from Varazdin example I'm sure they benefit there own communities not even mentioning unemployment which would be drastically reduced...
Exactly Mic. But a lot of credit goes to the local mayor. Ivan Čehok is a very progressive leader who doesn't waste time with political bullshit and game playing or ego trips. He is business orientated and I hope he considers running for a higher position in Croatia. :)
The other counties are only now beginning to learn from Varazdin which has been at it for ages.
SinCity September 6th, 2005, 04:16 AM Croatia and World Bank sign deal on modernisation of Ploce port
11:49 - 05 September 2005 - An agreement on USD 1.75 million advance payment on a loan to be used for a project of modernisation of the southern port of Ploce was signed in that Adriatic town by Croatian Finance Minister Ivan Suker and the director of the World Bank's office for Romania, Bulgaria and Croatia, Anand K. Seth, Hina News Line reports.
The entire project covering the construction of a container terminal and a bulk cargo terminal is worth between 60 and 75 million dollars.
The USD 1.75 million advance payment will be used for the preparation of the necessary documentation.
Minister Suker said that the loan would be granted under the currently most favourable terms with a grace period of five years, a 15-year repayment period and at an interest rate of 2.3 percent.
World Bank Vice-President for Europe and Central Asia Shigeo Katsu, who attended the ceremony in Ploce, said that the Bank set the development of regions as one of its key tasks, and voiced hope that this project would manage to integrate needs for growth and sustainable development.
According to Katsu, the project is important from the point of view of regional cooperation.
The biggest southern Croatian seaport is mainly used as a gateway by neighbouring Bosnia-Herzegovina for the export of its goods and import of raw materials.
Present at the ceremony in Ploce were Croatian Sea and Transport Minister Bozidar Klameta, members of Parliament and local officials.
Source: Hina News Line
bubach_hlubach September 6th, 2005, 04:50 AM ^Varazdin and Cakovc must have very low unemployment, it looks as most productive cities in Croatia apart from Zagreb...
Impressive, now if all other places in Croatia pick up and learn few things from Varazdin example I'm sure they benefit there own communities not even mentioning unemployment which would be drastically reduced...
Incorrect ;)
The lowest unemployment rate apart from Zagreb has Istria (less than 6 percent), by EU standards which practice ILO method, unemployment is probably even lower.
Koprivnicko - Krizevacka county (the cradle of Podravka lol) is also doing better than Varazdin county, or Medjimurje which is ranked 9th in terms of GDP per capita.
However, Medjimurje is quite well organized and 'disciplined', so is Varazdin county with a very bright future, no doubt about that! :cheers:
BTW, i have found many articles that say that Zadar county is rapidly getting very close to Primorsko-Goranska (Rijeka) which is btw ranked 3rd of 21 counties in Croatia :)
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Here's the list of top 15 counties (GDP)
1. The city of Zagreb
2. Istria
3. Primorsko-Goranska
4. Koprivnicko-Krizevacka
5. Zadarska
6. Zagrebacka/Varazdinska/Karlovacka
7. Medjimurska
8. Bjelovarsko-Bilogorska
9. Splitsko-Dalmatinska
10. Osjecko-Baranjska
11. Dubrovacka
12. Pozesko-Slavonska
13. Sisacko-Moslavacka
:cheers:
SinCity September 6th, 2005, 06:03 AM Zadar is one that has taken ages to shift into gear ..... finally.
SinCity September 6th, 2005, 06:35 AM The forces of POS lay seige to Đakovo (Slavonia - Eastern Croatia) :D
Residential housing project offered by the Croatian government. From the city of Đakovo ......
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/POS10.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/POS13.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/POS11.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/POS1.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/POS4.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/POS8.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/POS7.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/POS12.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/POS3.jpg
http://www.robertlesjr.from.hr/graphics/arh/POS2.jpg
long foot September 6th, 2005, 08:59 AM ^Varazdin and Cakovc must have very low unemployment, it looks as most productive cities in Croatia apart from Zagreb...
Impressive, now if all other places in Croatia pick up and learn few things from Varazdin example I'm sure they benefit there own communities not even mentioning unemployment which would be drastically reduced...
Istria, Varaždin, Međimurje (Čakovec), Dubrovnik and Zagreb are
the most productive in Croatia :)
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