I believe MMDA has explained several years ago about the use of the colors Baby Blue and Pink... I just dont have the article, but as I remember, they explained that these colors lighten the mood of the people in general...

Seeing the posts here, it just shows that it defeats the purpose!...

MMDA should really learn to discipline and teach courtesy to their employees... most offenders are their traffic enforcers... though the street cleaners come clean because I haven't heard any complaints against them...

sumbong natin kay Bayani para maturuan ng leksyon, matutuwa sa atin iyon

MMDA's first Gwapotel.

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More than the signs and the colors, still wanting are the training of enforcers. Seems to many that the only violations they know of are related to swerving, beating the red light (this considering they totally junked whatever motorists know about signals), and yes, number coding violations. Our streets will have smoother and safer traffic if we really do have honest and well-trained enforcers. Kaso, kotong din yata at paggawa ng ibang bagay (peeing in public places?) ang inaatupag. No wonder they don't get respect, they haven't earned it yet.

Golez, Fernando engage in war over colors

By Maila Ager
INQUIRER.net (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20080502-134124/Golez-Fernando-engage-in-war-over-colors)
First Posted 11:59:00 05/02/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- Now, it is a battle of colors between Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) chairman Bayani Fernando and his staunch critic at the House of Representatives.

Deputy Minority Floor Leader Roilo Golez shot back on Friday at Fernando for allegedly commenting that the congressman’s use of violet or purple as his campaign color was for bereavement and lent.

Golez has been criticizing the MMDA chief for the installation of pink road signs and giant tarpaulin posters purportedly in preparation for his presidential bid in 2010.

"In defending his fetish for the color pink, the MMDA chairman alluded to my use of violet or purple as my campaign color commenting it’s the color of bereavement and lent. He is correct," the lawmaker said in a statement.

"But violet is also a lot of things to a lot of people," he said.

Golez said that violet was the highest color in the color spectrum, being the color of royalty, of kings in olden and even modern times, of the Supreme Court, of the Integrated Bar of the Philippines, of Lent and Advent in the Christian world.

In sports, Golez said violet was also the color of the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team and the Minessotta Vikings Football Team.

A famous American wrestler also uses violet, he said.

"In the Knights of Columbus, it is the color of the Grand Knight, the most senior in the hierarchy. It was the battle color of Xerxes the Great of Persia. Alexander the Great used violet when he attacked Asia," he said.

It is also the color of bravery, the Purple Heart Medal, the lawmaker said.

"And to me, as a Quiapo devotee since my teens, it is a religious color," he said.

"Now, has anyone seen a basketball team or a warrior wearing pink?" Golez pointed out.

b'z2;20249256"]Golez, Fernando engage in war over colors

By Maila Ager
INQUIRER.net (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20080502-134124/Golez-Fernando-engage-in-war-over-colors)
First Posted 11:59:00 05/02/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- Now, it is a battle of colors between Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) chairman Bayani Fernando and his staunch critic at the House of Representatives.

Deputy Minority Floor Leader Roilo Golez shot back on Friday at Fernando for allegedly commenting that the congressman’s use of violet or purple as his campaign color was for bereavement and lent.

Golez has been criticizing the MMDA chief for the installation of pink road signs and giant tarpaulin posters purportedly in preparation for his presidential bid in 2010.

"In defending his fetish for the color pink, the MMDA chairman alluded to my use of violet or purple as my campaign color commenting it’s the color of bereavement and lent. He is correct," the lawmaker said in a statement.

"But violet is also a lot of things to a lot of people," he said.

Golez said that violet was the highest color in the color spectrum, being the color of royalty, of kings in olden and even modern times, of the Supreme Court, of the Integrated Bar of the Philippines, of Lent and Advent in the Christian world.

In sports, Golez said violet was also the color of the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team and the Minessotta Vikings Football Team.

A famous American wrestler also uses violet, he said.

"In the Knights of Columbus, it is the color of the Grand Knight, the most senior in the hierarchy. It was the battle color of Xerxes the Great of Persia. Alexander the Great used violet when he attacked Asia," he said.

It is also the color of bravery, the Purple Heart Medal, the lawmaker said.

"And to me, as a Quiapo devotee since my teens, it is a religious color," he said.

"Now, has anyone seen a basketball team or a warrior wearing pink?" Golez pointed out.

Answer to golez's question: yung CEU pink scorpions xD

Golez is funny. :D

BF just became our family friend. He's a good man actually, but the problem with him is that before he implements his project he does not hold consultations with people. If you would happen to live in Commonwealth, which I do, you would see how most of BF's project have failed to alleviate the worsening traffic in our main thoroughfare to the rest of Manila

bwisit ako kay bf...kahapon, papunta ako moa, after sucat exit, naka encounter ako ng mga hawi boys complete with wang wang..so nung una hindi talaga ko naggive way dahil bwisit talaga ako sa ganon...tapos yung motorcylce escort dinuduro duro na ko to get of the way...o sige nag give nako, putik convoy pala ni bf yung pinagbigyan ko.i know he's the mmda head pero hindi porke sha na eh pede na sha mag wang wang. bwisit

^^ feeling nya presidente na sya :lol:

BF just became our family friend. He's a good man actually, but the problem with him is that before he implements his project he does not hold consultations with people. If you would happen to live in Commonwealth, which I do, you would see how most of BF's project have failed to alleviate the worsening traffic in our main thoroughfare to the rest of Manila

That's why I hate him. Wala syang pakialam kung masama o hindi ang mga implementasyon nya. Also nag worse ang traffic dahil sa U Turn slot nya lalo na sa Quezon Ave. at Libis area.

Nakita ko ang interview nya sa GMA's 24 Oras about sa elevated u turn slot dahil may experts daw na magwoworse pa ang traffic sa C5 Katipunan. Nuung hiningi ang reaction nya he just walked out and said "wag mong i-eere yan!"

Thanks to Bayani Fernando and MMDA. Nag simula ng pag gigibain ung mga establishments na nakaharang sa sidewalk ng Bonifacio Avenue sa QC. Walang nagawa kahit ung malalaking supply center ng japan surplus vehicle parts sa area. Mag iimprove ang traffic condition sa Bonifacio ave dahil sa ginagawa nilang clearing operation.

The MMDA is installing a pedestrian overpass across Aurora Blvd underneath the Katipunan Flyover. The intent is good but what's a cause for worry is that the steel structure is attached (hanging) to the flyover's superstructure. I wonder if the structural design of the flyover was evaluated before this pedestrian facility was installed. The weight of the new facility alone will surely add to the dead load of the flyover. Paano pa ang live load from the pedestrians? Tsk tsk...

BF is dictatorial. same way with Lee Kuan Yew of singapore. how many failed endeavors happened in singapore? Madami din inspite of everything.

i've been a supporter of BF not because he doesnt make mistakes. Far from it. ang daming palpak na U-turn, palpak na projects, etc. But at least me ginagawa and he has the politcal will to do things. and most of all, hindi siya populist. He doesnt do what is popular.

if you look at cities such as Pasay, Paranaque, Caloocan, etc, look at these cities. Mga traditional mayors nandun. parang walang government na nagpapatakbo.

ang aking lang, is the guy perfect? no, far from it. but i'd take him over maybe 80% of our politicians any day.

^^ I second the motion. For me, I would favor BF against any politician we have right now. BF is an action man who is never afraid to try new things to solve old problems even though some of his ideas failed on implementation.

That's why I hate him. Wala syang pakialam kung masama o hindi ang mga implementasyon nya. Also nag worse ang traffic dahil sa U Turn slot nya lalo na sa Quezon Ave. at Libis area.

Nakita ko ang interview nya sa GMA's 24 Oras about sa elevated u turn slot dahil may experts daw na magwoworse pa ang traffic sa C5 Katipunan. Nuung hiningi ang reaction nya he just walked out and said "wag mong i-eere yan!"

You don't have to be so personal in hating BF. The elevated u-turn is successful in Bangkok, Thailand. BF has done a tremendous job in instilling discipline in the streets of Metro Manila. The drivers of the colorum buses hate him so much including the illegal vendors, the violators, undisciplined Metro Manilans, now, are you one of them?

Quezon Avenue/EDSA Intersection
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NBTS
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For me mas gusto ko si BF sino ba sa mga MMDA chairman ang may nagawa? parang siya lang di ba! yung mga Bus Stop isa sa mga gusto ko! Why? it seperate yung mga private vehicle and public kaya kahit papano smooth ang traffic dahil hindi na aapektohan yun respective line nya because of the barrier! Even U-Turn Slot kung mag-aanalyse ka you will see the benefit ng U-turn less traffic smooth drive eh kaya naman nag-failure yun U-turn slot eh walang decipline ang mga driver eh hindi maayos ang pag-mamaneho!

For me mas gusto ko si BF sino ba sa mga MMDA chairman ang may nagawa? parang siya lang di ba! yung mga Bus Stop isa sa mga gusto ko! Why? it seperate yung mga private vehicle and public kaya kahit papano smooth ang traffic dahil hindi na aapektohan yun respective line nya because of the barrier! Even U-Turn Slot kung mag-aanalyse ka you will see the benefit ng U-turn less traffic smooth drive eh kaya naman nag-failure yun U-turn slot eh walang decipline ang mga driver eh hindi maayos ang pag-mamaneho!

sakli.. ung u-turn slot, dapat bawal ang truck. ung lang... i think it will become more effective if so..

It evidently shows that people are in favor of "action" and political will as opposed to politicians blabbering but just sit pretty in their fancy offices and do nothing to improve the situation. I guess the only thing we could wish for BF is for him to also do consultations with people. Lee of Singapore did that and those in charge in Bangkok do so too. Note that in those countries, the experts were people coming from the professional organizations as well as the academe. Being dictatorial in the context of doing what one alone thinks is right or is being told by close aides who themselves aren't at all that bright is still the wrong way of doing things. BF has the opportunity to do even better than what he's accomplished.

BF Go

Bicutan interchange
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I just hope BF does not forget the elderly,disabled pinoys need to travel and move as well.I hope he provide facilities for them.How about escalators like those in Las Pinas?:)

BF Go

Bicutan interchange
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/cbuilt/DSC00026.jpgHAhaha... mabuti at hindi mo ako napicturan diyan ah. Lagi akong dumadaan diyan :lol:

I just hope BF does not forget the elderly,disabled pinoys need to travel and move as well.I hope he provide facilities for them.How about escalators like those in Las Pinas?:)

Escalators in the open air, I think won't work here in the philippines effectively unlike in some other countries unless palaging minamaintain. grabe kasi pollution kaya kapag hinde namaintain, ang dumi nung escalators minsan hinde pa nagana kaya ang taas pa ng aakyatan mo kesa sa normal na stairs. Yung escalator pa lang sa trinoma (yung sa EDSA side) ang sa tingin ko ang okay na escalator in the open air hehehe

HAhaha... mabuti at hindi mo ako napicturan diyan ah. Lagi akong dumadaan diyan :lol:


nakita kita sa baba ka dumaan eh, sayang wala yung cam. j-walker hehehej/k

Escalators in the open air, I think won't work here in the philippines effectively unlike in some other countries unless palaging minamaintain. grabe kasi pollution kaya kapag hinde namaintain, ang dumi nung escalators minsan hinde pa nagana kaya ang taas pa ng aakyatan mo kesa sa normal na stairs. Yung escalator pa lang sa trinoma (yung sa EDSA side) ang sa tingin ko ang okay na escalator in the open air hehehe


mahal kasi pag escalator, baka walng budget, pero may ramp naman yan kaya puede pa rin ang may wheels.

mahal kasi pag escalator, baka walng budget, pero may ramp naman yan kaya puede pa rin ang may wheels.Pero feeling ko mahirap pa rin umakyat diyan yung ay mga wheelchairs. Sobrang steep pa rin nung ramps. Pero anyway, malaking tulong na rin yang footbridge. Kaya lang yung sa Bicutan Merket side sobrang gulo pa rin!!! Wala bang magawa yung mayor diyan or yung MMDA?!?

mahal kasi pag escalator, baka walng budget, pero may ramp naman yan kaya puede pa rin ang may wheels.

ang pangit lang sa ramp na nakita ko na ginawa ng mmda (example yung sa bicutan na pedestrian overpass) medyo steep siya saka isa lang yung side na pwede mong hawakan

BF Go

Bicutan interchange
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/cbuilt/DSC00026.jpg

parang jaywalking yung mga tao sa left side ng pic ah

I can't find the roads thread so I guess this is appropriate here:

National Roads In Metro Manila (2006):

Quezon City 1st District Engineering Office

1 A Bonifacio Ave
2 Agham Rd
3 Batasan Rd
4 Cloverleaf
5 Commonwealth Ave
6 Congressional Ave
7 Congressional Ave Ext
8 Cordillera St
9 Corregidor St
10 Dapitan St
11 Del Monte Ave
12 Epifanio Delos Santos Ave (EDSA)
13 Fairview Ave
14 G Araneta Ave
15 Gen Luis St
16 Ilocos Sur
17 Kanlaon St
18 La Mesa Dam
19 Ma Clara
20 Manila North Div Rd
21 Mindanao Ave
22 Nicanor Roxas
23 North Ave
24 Quirino H-way
25 Regalado Ave (North)
26 Road 1
27 Roosevelt Ave
28 Sct Alcaraz
29 Sgt Rivera (Tagaytay)
30 Sto Domingo
31 Susano Rd
32 Tandang Sora Ave
33 Times St
34 Visayas Ave
35 West Ave

Quezon City 2nd District Engineering Office

1 15th Ave
2 20th Ave
3 Arayat St
4 Aurora Blvd
5 Balete Drive
6 Bayani St
7 BIR Rd
8 Bonny Serrano
9 C Benitez St
10 Cordillera St
11 CP Garcia
12 E Rodriguez Jr Ave
13 E Rodriguez Sr
14 East Ave
15 Elliptical Rd
16 Epifanio Delos Santos Ave (EDSA)
17 Ermin Garcia
18 G Araneta Ave
19 G Araneta Ave
20 Gilmore Ave
21 Hemady St
22 Internal Rd
23 JP Rizal St
24 Kalayaan Ave
25 Kamuning-Kamias Rd
26 Katipunan Ave (C-5)
27 Liberty Ave
28 Maginhawa St
29 Main Ave
30 Mother Ignacia St
31 MVO Rd
32 N Domingo St
33 N Ramirez St (Pulog St)
34 NIA North Rd
35 NIA South Rd
36 Ortigas-Granada Rd
37 Osmeña Ave
38 P Tuazon Blvd
39 Quezon Ave
40 Santol
41 Scout Ybardaloza
42 Sct Lozano
43 Sgt Esguerra (Bohol Ave)
44 Sgt Esguerra (Bohol Ave)
45 South Ave (Timog Ave)
46 South Ave (Timog Ave)
47 T Gener St
48 Tomas Morato
49 Tomas Morato
50 University Ave
51 University Ave
52 V Luna Rd

North Manila District Engineering Office

1 A Maceda St
2 A Maceda St
3 A Rivera St
4 AH Lacson
5 AH Lacson
6 Alfonso Mendoza
7 Alfonso Mendoza
8 Algeciras
9 Alvarez St
10 Arlegui St
11 Arlegui St
12 Aurora Avenue
13 Blumentritt St (LZ)
14 Blumentritt St (LZ)
15 Buenos Aires St
16 Bustillos St
17 C Aguila St
18 C Palanca St
19 C Palanca St
20 C-2 Road
21 CM Recto
22 Cordillera St
23 Dagupan St
24 Dapitan St
25 Dasmarinas St
26 Del Pan Service Rd
27 Del Pan St
28 Delpan St
29 Dimasalang St
30 E Quintos St
31 España Blvd
32 Evangelista St
33 F Cayco St
34 F Torres St (NCR)
35 G Tuazon St
36 H Lopez Blvd
37 Herbosa St
38 Hermosa St
39 J Fajardo St
40 J Rizal Ave
41 JA Santos Ave
42 JL Escoda St
43 Jones Bridge Service Rd
44 JP Laurel St
45 Juan Luna St
46 Kalakal
47 L Rivera
48 Laon-Laan St
49 Legarda St
50 Lerma St
51 M Dela Fuente
52 M Earnshaw St
53 M Roxas Blvd Ext Service Rd
54 M Roxas Jr Bridge
55 M Roxas Service Rd
56 Ma Clara
57 Madrid St
58 Malacañang Rd Network
59 Marcos Rd
60 McArthur Bridge Service Rd
61 Mendiola St
62 Moriones
63 Mulle del Banco National
64 Mulle dela Industria
65 Nagtahan
66 Nagtahan Bridge Service Rd
67 Nicanor Reyes St
68 North Antipolo St
69 Old Sta Mesa
70 Oroquieta St
71 P Casal St
72 P Florentino
73 P Sanchez St
74 Paltok St
75 Pampanga St
76 Plaza Lacson
77 Plaza Moraga
78 Plaza Ruiz
79 Plaza Sta Cruz
80 Q Paredes St
81 Quezon Blvd (LZ)
82 Quezon Blvd Service Rd
83 Quezon Bridge Rd
84 Quiricada St
85 R Magsaysay Blvd
86 R-10
87 Ramon Magsaysay Blvd Service Rd
88 Reina Regente
89 Reposo St
90 Retiro St
91 Ronquillo St
92 SH Loyola
93 Sn Fernando
94 Sn Lazaro Hospital Compound Road Network
95 Sn Rafael St
96 Solis
97 South Antipolo
98 Sto Cristo
99 T Earnshaw
100 T Mapua St
101 Tayuman
102 V Del Fierro
103 V Fugoso
104 V Mapa St
105 Valenzuela St
106 Velasquez
107 VG Cruz
108 Vitas
109 Zaragosa St

South Manila District Engineering Office

1 11th St
2 13th St
3 16th St
4 19th St
5 20th St
6 25th St
7 2nd Street
8 8th Street
9 A Bautista
10 A Francisco St
11 A Linao St
12 A Mabini St
13 A Soriano (Aduana)
14 Agrifina Circle Parking Lot
15 Anda St
16 Andrew Ave
17 Antonio Arnaiz Ave
18 Arellano Ave
19 Arroceros St
20 Atlanta St
21 Aurora Blvd
22 Ayala Bridge
23 Balagbag Rd
24 Beata St
25 Bonifacio Drive
26 Bonifacio Drive Interchange
27 Bureau of Plant Industry
28 Bureau of Post Rd
29 Cabildo St
30 Certeza St
31 Chicago St
32 Concepcion St
33 Cortabitarte St
34 Domestic Rd
35 Dr J Quintos
36 Electrical Rd
37 Estrada St
38 F Calderon St (LZ)
39 FAT Access Rd
40 FB Harrison
41 Finance St
42 G Del Pilar
43 Gen Luna Street
44 Gil Puyat Ave
45 Government Center Rd
46 Hanava St
47 J Posadas St
48 Jesus Ext
49 Jesus St
50 Jones Bridge
51 Jose Syquia St
52 Josefa Llanes Escoda
53 Labores St
54 Lamayan St
55 Laura St
56 Legislative Parking Lot
57 Leon Guinto St
58 M Adriatico
59 M Roxas Jr Bridge
60 M Roxas St
61 Magallanes Drive
62 Malacanang Park Rd
63 Manila Film Center Access Rd
64 Manila Film Ctr Main Rd
65 Manuel L Carreon St
66 Maria Orosa St
67 McArthur Bridge
68 Mendiola Ext
69 MH Del Pilar
70 Muella de Magallanes
71 Muelle de Tacoma
72 Muelle del Rio St
73 Muelle Sn Francisco
74 Muralla St
75 MWSS Rd
76 Nagtahan Bridge
77 NAIA Rd (MIA Road)
78 New Panaderos St
79 Nichols Field Rd
80 Old Panaderos St
81 Onyx St
82 P Burgos Street
83 P Ocampo Sr
84 Paco Park Rd
85 Padre Faura
86 Palacio St
87 Pasig Line
88 Paz Mendoza Guazon (Otis St)
89 Pedro Gil (Herran)
90 Perez St
91 PGH Road
92 Philtrade Rd 1
93 PICC Access Rd
94 PICC Fat Main Rd
95 PICC Fat Perimeter Rd
96 Plaza Calderon
97 Plaza Dilao
98 Plaza Espana
99 Plaza Lawton Rd
100 Pres Quirino Ave
101 Pres Quirino Avenue (Canonigo)
102 Quezon Bridge Rd
103 R Del Pan St
104 Railroad St
105 Remedios St
106 Rizal Parking Lot
107 Romualdez St
108 Roxas Blvd
109 Roxas Blvd East Service Rd
110 Roxas Blvd-West Service Rd
111 Roxas Boulevard
112 Singalong St
113 Sn Andres St
114 Sn Gregorio St
115 Sn Marcelino St
116 South Blvd
117 South Super H-way
118 Spine Rd
119 Sta Lucia
120 Taft Ave
121 Tejeron St
122 TM Kalaw St
123 Tramo Rd
124 United Nations Ave
125 Victoria St
126 Zamora St
127 Zobel Roxas St

Metro Manila 3rd District Engineering Office

1 10th Ave West
2 7th Ave West
3 A Mabini St
4 B Serrano St
5 Bonifacio Monument Circle
6 C-3 Road
7 Central Luzon Leprosarium Rd
8 Coloong Rd
9 Deparo-Bagumbong Rd
10 Deparo-Camarin Rd
11 East Service Rd (Valenzuela)
12 Epifanio Delos Santos Ave (EDSA)
13 G Fernando St
14 G Lazaro St
15 Gen San Miguel St
16 Gen T de Leon St
17 Gov I Santiago St
18 Gov T Santiago St
19 MacArthur H-way
20 Malaria Field Control Rd
21 MH Del Pilar St
22 North Expressway East Service Rd (Caloocan)
23 North Expressway West Service Rd (Caloocan)
24 Novaliches-Sn Jose Rd
25 Polo-Novaliches Rd
26 Polo-Pugad Baboy Rd
27 Rizal Ave Ext
28 Samson Rd
29 West Service Rd (Valenzuela)

2nd Metro Manila Sub-District Engineering Office

1 Alabang-Muntinlupa Rd
2 Daang Maharlika (LZ)
3 International Receiver Rd
4 Muntinlupa-Insular Prison Rd
5 Muntinlupa-Railroad Station Rd
6 Paranaque-Sucat Rd
7 PPTA Rd
8 Quirino Avenue
9 South Super H-way
10 South Super H-way Service Rd
11 Zapote-Alabang Rd

Metro Manila 2nd District Engineering Office

1 Airport Rd
2 Antonio Arnaiz Ave
3 AP Reyes
4 Arellano Ave
5 C-5 Road
6 Camp Claudio Cadre Rd
7 Dian Road
8 Epifanio Delos Santos Ave (EDSA)
9 FB Harrison
10 Gil Puyat Ave
11 Havana Ext
12 Havanna Rd
13 International Receiver Rd
14 JP Rizal
15 Kalayaan Ave
16 Kalayaan Ave Ext
17 Makati Ave
18 McKinley Rd
19 McKinley-Pateros Rd
20 NAIA Rd (MIA Road)
21 Ninoy Aquino Ave
22 Paranaque-Sucat Rd
23 Pasong Tamo
24 Pasong Tamo Ext
25 Quirino Avenue
26 Roxas Blvd
27 Roxas Blvd East Service Rd
28 South Drive
29 South Super H-way
30 South Super H-way Service Rd
31 Taft Ave
32 Tomas Claudio
33 Vito Cruz Ext

Metro Manila 1st District Engineering Office

1 A Bonifacio Ave
2 A Bonifacio-A Luna Rd
3 Amang Rodriguez Rd
4 Blumentritt
5 Blumentritt Market Rd
6 Blumentritt St (Pasig Market)
7 Boni Ave
8 C-5 Road
9 Correctional Institute Rd
10 Dela Paz St
11 Dr Garcia St
12 Dr Sixto Antonio
13 E Rodriguez
14 E Rodriguez Jr Ave
15 Epifanio Delos Santos Ave (EDSA)
16 F Manalo
17 Fort Bonifacio-Nichols Field Rd
18 Gen Kalentong-Blumentritt-Jolo Rd
19 Gen Santos Ave
20 Imelda Ave
21 JP Rizal St
22 Libingan ng mga Bayani
23 Lopez-Jaena
24 Luna-Mencias Rd
25 M Paterno St
26 Manila East Rd (Rosario-Cainta Rd)
27 Marcos Highway
28 Marikina-Sn Mateo Rd
29 N Domingo
30 National Mental Hospital Rd
31 New Panaderos Ext
32 New Psychopathic Hospital
33 Ortigas Ave
34 P Gomez St
35 P Gueverra-J Vargas St
36 Pasig Blvd
37 Pasig Diversion Rd 1
38 Pasig Diversion Rd 2
39 Pasig-Pateros Rd
40 Pasig-Santolan Rd
41 Pateros-McKinley Rd
42 Pinaglabanan
43 Pioneer St
44 PPTA Rd
45 Psychopathic Hospital Rd
46 Road Around Capitol Bldg
47 Road Around Marikina Public Market
48 Road Around Pasig Market Rd Alcalde Jose St
49 Rotonda-Pariancillo Rd
50 San Juan-Santolan Rd
51 Shaw Blvd
52 Sn Joaquin-Buting Rd
53 Sn Nicolas-Sagad Rd
54 Sumulong H-way
55 Taguig Diversion Rd
56 Ususan Diversion Rd
57 Welfare Ville Rd

Malabon-Navotas Sub-District Engineering Office

1 Adante Rd
2 Bonifacio St
3 Bonifacio-Sisa Rd
4 C Arellano St
5 C-3 Road
6 C-4 Road
7 Cadorniga St
8 Don Basilio Bautista St
9 E Rodriguez St
10 Estrella St
11 Flores St
12 Gen Luna St
13 Gov A Pascual St
14 Gov W Pascual Ave
15 Jct Women's Club St
16 Leoño St
17 M Naval St
18 MacArthur H-way
19 MH Del Pilar St
20 Naval St
21 North Bay Blvd
22 P Aquino Rd (Letre)
23 Prelaya St
24 Prosperidad St
25 R-10 Road
26 Sacristia St (Malabon Div Rd)
27 Sanciangco St
28 Sevilla Blvd
29 Tanza-Gasak Rd

**source: http://www.pc-experts.org/index.php?topic=16002.msg236277

may harang na bakit may tao dyan?:lol::lol::lol:

May 2 years pa si BF! ano kaya gagawin ng papalit sa kanya? siguro lahat ng ginawa ni BF papalita! U-turn Slot Barrier pati Pink color! wow siguro mga 5 million o higit pa para lang baguhin yung ginawa ni BF!

What about elevators?specific use for disabled and elderly?I'm just concerned for our kababayans whose rights are usually forgotten by our politicos or so-called leaders.:puke:

i saw a ramp in Manila and it looked like a slide. the worst part, at the bottom is a puddle of sewer water. ouch

It evidently shows that people are in favor of "action" and political will as opposed to politicians blabbering but just sit pretty in their fancy offices and do nothing to improve the situation. I guess the only thing we could wish for BF is for him to also do consultations with people. Lee of Singapore did that and those in charge in Bangkok do so too. Note that in those countries, the experts were people coming from the professional organizations as well as the academe. Being dictatorial in the context of doing what one alone thinks is right or is being told by close aides who themselves aren't at all that bright is still the wrong way of doing things. BF has the opportunity to do even better than what he's accomplished.

BF probably does not consult to expedite his plans quicker.
He knows how Filipinos are counter discipline counter order . contra contra period. It would probably take a million years to implement anything into action.

Pwede naman mag-expedite while consulting people. Public participation is a very healthy thing especially in order to gauge if most aspects of any plan or program are technically, economically and environmentally sound. The key is to gain acceptance in a manner wherein the public, including those who tend to oppose any idea by the MMDA Chair, would have the venue or opportunity to express their thoughts. In the end, there will be a sense of ownership to the plans and programs and there is the opportunity to correct potential flaws. To assume that people would automatically reject BF's plans and programs would be counterproductive and this thread shows that indeed there are many who support BF's programs. Fine tuning lang siguro ang kailangan but not during or after the program implementation. Pwede naman before di ba? =)

Ok si BF pero sana wag naman pink! nakakairita yung kulay at hindi nagbeblend sa environment imo.

^^ hintay na lang tayo ng konti. after 2010 siguro. dahil pagkatapos ng term ni BF, mapapalitan na rin ng kulay yan. kanya-kanya lang namang pakulo ng pulitiko yan eh. panibagong project, panibagong gastos etc. etc. :ohno::ohno::nuts::nuts::bash::bash: sino naman kayang karakter ang papalit dun..

si Binay ule after 2010. oh wait presidential seat pala siya sa 2010.

I saw these posters along Aguinaldo Highway from Bacoor up to Dasmariñas, Cavite.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3783/02172008242sc3.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3831/02172008240gc2.jpg

I think MMDA is also giving assistance to the LGU's in different provinces like Rizal and Pangasinan.

^^ hintay na lang tayo ng konti. after 2010 siguro. dahil pagkatapos ng term ni BF, mapapalitan na rin ng kulay yan. kanya-kanya lang namang pakulo ng pulitiko yan eh. panibagong project, panibagong gastos etc. etc. :ohno::ohno::nuts::nuts::bash::bash: sino naman kayang karakter ang papalit dun..

panibagong gastos na naman. tsktsk...alang long term vision:bash:

The MMDA is installing a pedestrian overpass across Aurora Blvd underneath the Katipunan Flyover. The intent is good but what's a cause for worry is that the steel structure is attached (hanging) to the flyover's superstructure. I wonder if the structural design of the flyover was evaluated before this pedestrian facility was installed. The weight of the new facility alone will surely add to the dead load of the flyover. Paano pa ang live load from the pedestrians? Tsk tsk...

super pain in the ass ang pagtawid diyan., kaya super thank you ako sa MMDA for this footbridge., sana lang matapos na.

I saw these posters along Aguinaldo Highway from Bacoor up to Dasmariñas, Cavite.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3783/02172008242sc3.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3831/02172008240gc2.jpg

I think MMDA is also giving assistance to the LGU's in different provinces like Rizal and Pangasinan.Yan ang hindi ko magets sa project ni BF. Eh ano naman kung may ganyang poster. As if papansinin siya ng mga tao. tingnan mo nga yung isa nilagyan ng signature. Baliw talaga mga PInoy. :lol:

Ok si BF pero sana wag naman pink! nakakairita yung kulay at hindi nagbeblend sa environment imo.Ayoko rin ng pink. Wala bang neutral colors?

Pwede naman mag-expedite while consulting people. Public participation is a very healthy thing especially in order to gauge if most aspects of any plan or program are technically, economically and environmentally sound. The key is to gain acceptance in a manner wherein the public, including those who tend to oppose any idea by the MMDA Chair, would have the venue or opportunity to express their thoughts. In the end, there will be a sense of ownership to the plans and programs and there is the opportunity to correct potential flaws. To assume that people would automatically reject BF's plans and programs would be counterproductive and this thread shows that indeed there are many who support BF's programs. Fine tuning lang siguro ang kailangan but not during or after the program implementation. Pwede naman before di ba? =)Although I agree with public consultation pero sa nakikita ko usu it drags into very long sessions na minsan wala nang nagagawa. The problem with these consultations is that there are no guiding rules nor laws so masyadong arbitrary in short magulo.

Green would be the best color to use, imo.

Yan ang hindi ko magets sa project ni BF. Eh ano naman kung may ganyang poster. As if papansinin siya ng mga tao. tingnan mo nga yung isa nilagyan ng signature. Baliw talaga mga PInoy. :lol:

warning yan. pag nilagyan ng ganyan yung structure, sila na dapat maggiba ng structure. katulad ng ginawa ng MMDA sa talaba, bacoor , sobrang demolition talaga. hehe. in fairness, maganda naman epekto. :D

Green would be the best color to use, imo.

rainbow para sa lahat. kung gusto mo green andun na, kung red, andun. hehehehe

I think we have got a leadership overload,we have become so anarchaic in everything.Mayors act as if they are Sultans or rajah's.Look at traffic enforcers in MM.No "one" system at all.MMDA's prob is it's constitutional mandate.DOTC is inept,LTO is a polarized dept.We have become tribal and clannish again.It's like pre-spanish times with Ipod.To be fair though,Thailand has got the same prob.We are not alone:lol:
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1518/thailandtraffic1ew8.jpghttp://
thanks koolgary for the pic.

^^ Uhmm parang sa Pinas! :)

our infrastructures in the metro is a far cry compared to our Thai counterparts...at least they got better pedestrians / sidewalks, and urban landscaping.

***Provisions in bold are those which I consider quite problematic, vague and arbitrary. Although the RA grants MMDA some powers, the LGUs seems to have overlapping powers too in relation to MMDA. As a result, those LGU who are at loggerheads with the chairman would find it easy to block or torpedo any plans or programs in the council. And as what we have seen many times before, the SC and other courts seem to side with the LGUs most of the time. So it's no wonder the MMDA is having a hard time implementing their programs. I believe it is now time to amend this law or make other laws that could set procedures on how the agency should act.

REPUBLIC ACT NO. 7924
AN ACT CREATING THE METROPOLITAN MANILA DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, DEFINING ITS POWERS AND FUNCTIONS, PROVIDING FUNDING THEREFOR AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES

Sec. 1 Declaration of Policy - It is hereby declared to be the policy of the State to treat Metropolitan Manila as a special development and administrative region and certain basic services affecting or involving Metro Manila as metro-wide services more efficiently and effectively planned, supervised and coordinated by a development authority as created therein, without prejudice to the autonomy of the affected local government units.

The MMDA shall perform planning, monitoring and coordinative functions, and in the process exercise regulatory and supervisory authority over the delivery of metro-wide services within Metro Manila without diminution of the autonomy of the local government units concerning purely local matters.

Sec. 3 Scope of MMDA Services. - Metro-wide services under the jurisdiction of the MMDA are those services which have metro-wide impact and transcend legal political boundaries or entail huge expenditures such that it would not be viable for said services to be provided by the individual local government units (LGUs) comprising Metropolitan Manila. These services shall include:

Development planning which includes the preparation of medium and long-term development plans: the development evaluation and packaging of projects; investment programming and coordination and monitoring of plan, program and project implementation.

Transport and traffic management which includes the formulation, coordination and monitoring of policies, standards, programs and projects to rationalize the existing transport operations, infrastructure requirements, the use of thoroughfares, and promotions of safe and convenient movement of persons and goods: provision for the mass transport system and the institution of a system to regulate road users; administration and implementation of all irerhe enforcement operations, traffic engineering services and traffic education programs, including the institution of a single ticketing system in Metropolitan Manila.

Solid waste disposal and management which include formulation, and implementation of policies, standards, programs and projects for proper and sanitary waste disposal. It shall likewise include the establishment and operation of sanitary landfill and related facilities and the implementation of other alternative programs intended to reduce, reuse and recycle solid waste.

Flood control and sewerage management which includes the formulation and implementation of policies, standards, programs and projects for an integrated flood control, drainage and sewerage system.

Urban renewal, zoning and land use planning, and shelter services which includes the formulation, adoption and implementation of policies, standards, rules and regulations, programs and projects to rationalize and optimize urban land use and provide direction to urban growth and expansion, the rehabilitation and development of slum and blighted areas, the development of shelter and housing facilities and the provision of necessary social services thereof.

Health and sanitation, urban protection and pollution control which includes the formulation and implementation of policies, rules and regulations, standards, programs and projects for the promotion and safeguarding of the health and sanitation of the region and for the enhancement of ecological balance and the prevention, control and abatement of environmental pollution.

Public safety which includes the formulation and implementation of programs and policies and procedures to , achieve public safety, especially preparedness for preventive or rescue operations during times of calamities and disasters such as conflagrations, earthquake,-flood and tidal waves; and coordination and mobilization of resources and the implementation for rehabilitation and relief operations in coordination with national agencies concerned.

Sec. 4 Metro Manila Council. The governing board and policy making body of the MMDA shall be the Metro Manila Council, composed Of the majors of the eight (8) cities and nine (9) municipalities enumerated in Section 1 hereof and the president of the Metro Manila Vice Mayors League and the president of the Metro Manila Councilors League.

The heads of the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC), Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH), Department of Tourism (DOT), Department of Budget and Management Office, Housing Urban and Development Coordinating Committee (HUDCC) and the Philippine National Police (PNP) or their duly authorized representatives, shall attend meetings of the Council as non-voting members.

Sec. 5. Functions and powers of the Metro Manila Development Authority. - The MMDA shall:

Formulate, coordinate and regulate the implementation of medium and long term plans and programs for the delivery of metro-wide services, land use and physical development within Metropolitan Manila, consistent with national development objectives and priorities.

Prepare, coordinate and regulate the implementation of medium term investment programs tor metro-wide services which shall indicate sources and uses of funds for priority programs and projects, which shall include the packaging of projects and presentation to funding institutions;

Undertake and manage on its own metro-wide programs and projects for the delivery of specific services under its jurisdiction subject to the approval of the Council. For this purpose, MMDA can create appropriate project management offices;

Coordinate and monitor the implementation of such plans, programs and projects in Metro Manila; identify bottlenecks and adopt solutions to problems of implementation; and

The MMDA shall set the policies concerning traffic in Metropolitan Manila, and coordinate and regulate the implementation of all programs and projects concerning traffic management specifically pertaining to enforcement, engineering and education. Upon request, it shall be extended assistance and cooperation, including but not limited to, assignment of personnel, by all other government agencies and offices concerned.

Install and administer a single ticketing system, fix, impose and collect fines and penalties for all kinds of violations of traffic rules and regulations, whether moving or non-moving in nature, and confiscate and suspend or revoke driver's licenses in the enforcement of such traffic laws and regulations, the provisions of RA 4136 and PD 1605 to the contrary notwithstanding. For this purpose, the Authority shall enforce all traffic laws and regulations in Metro Manila, through its traffic operation center, and may deputized members of the PNP, traffic enforcers of local government units, duly licensed security guards or members of non-governmental organizations to whom may be delegated certain authority, subject to such conditions and requirements as the Authority may impose.

Perform other related functions required to achieve the objectives of the MMDA, including the undertaking of delivery of basic services to the local government units when deemed necessary, subject to prior coordination with and consent of the local government unit concerned.


Sec. 6 Functions of the Metro Manila Council. -
The Council shall be the policy making body of the MMDA.

It shall approve metro-wide plans, programs and projects and issue rules and regulations and resolutions deemed necessary by the MMDA to carry out the purposes of this Act.

It shall promulgate rules and regulations and set policies and standards for metro-wide application governing the delivery of basic services, prescribe and collect service and regulatory fees, and impose and collect fines and penalties.

Sec. 7 Functions of the Chairman. -The Chairman shall:

Appoint, subject to civil service laws, rules and regulations. all subordinate officers and employees, who shall enjoy security of tenure and may be removed only for cause in accordance with law. The Chairman is hereby authorized to engage the services of experts/consultants either on full time or part-time basis, as may be required in the performance of his functions and duties as may be determined by him:

Execute the policies and measures approved by the Metro Manila Council and be responsible for the efficient and effective day-to-day management of the operations of the MMDA;

Prepare the annual budget for the operations of the MMDA for submission to the Council;

Submit for consideration of the Council such other policies and measures as may be deemed necessary to carry out the purposes and provisions of this Act;

Subject to the guidelines and policies set by the Council, prepare the staffing pattern and fix the number of subordinate officials and employees of the MMDA; and exercise the power to discipline subordinate officials and employees under the provision of law;

Prepare an annual report on the accomplishments of the MMDA at the close of each calendar year for submission to the Council and to the President of the Philippines; and

Perform such other duties as may be assigned to him by the President or by the Council.

The MMDA shall have a master plan that shall serve as the framework for the local development plans of the component LGUs.

The implementation of the MMDA's plans, programs and projects shall be undertaken by the LGUs, the concerned national government agencies, the POs, NGOs and the private sector and MMDA itself where appropriate. For this purpose, the MMDA may enter into contracts, memoranda of agreement and other cooperative arrangements with these bodies for the delivery of the required services within Metropolitan Manila.

I agree the public consultation process can be quite dragging, it is because we haven't really learned how to go about it. Sa Philippine EIA system may guidelines in conducting consultation and i've attended a few that were facilitated very well by the EMB people.

Such public involvement processes are conducted effectively in Bangkok, Jakarta and of course, developed countries. I would like to believe we can do a good (better?) job in the consultation process. Meanwhile, ituloy ang action kung necessary at kayang i-justify. The point is this, the MMDA if it really wants to package itself as a metropolitan body that is fashioned after something like the Tokyo Metropolitan Government (as BF and some of his supporters have previously claimed), then it also should learn to adapt and implement sophisticated social mechanisms for program and project formulation and implementation. Di pwede puro pa-gwapo kung urbanidad talaga ang gusto!

:)

There's this National Transport Planning Project (NTPP) for DOTC being conducted with AusAID funding. However, I hear the consultants are mostly former DOTC officials. Maybe these are the same guys who put our transport system and infra where we are now so why the heck are they back as consultants? Something's fishy here...

Hi, where is this C6? its route?

according to a speculative wikipedia entry, it will start at marilao, bulacan and end in cavite city, cavite. that's a lot of right-of-way to be purchased.

http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=business02_mar16_2006

Attention Mandaluyong Mayor Benhur Abalos and DPWH:

Mayor Abalos recently renovated the "park" under the Shaw Blvd-EDSA flyover. I think that instead of having a "park" under the flyover, they should just chunk out parts of it that do not go along the pillars of the flyover to widen Shaw Blvd!

Besides, the only people I see hanging out in the "park" are vagrants, itinerant beggars and rugby kids. Abalos seems to have misplaced priorities.

Still on Shaw Boulevard. Aren't they planning to create an LRT line along this road? Isn't this one of the ten radial roads. There are so many commuters on this line, i'm sure they'll make a lot of profit.

Does the Northrail-Southrail linkage pass by Shaw?

according to a speculative wikipedia entry, it will start at marilao, bulacan and end in cavite city, cavite. that's a lot of right-of-way to be purchased.

http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=business02_mar16_2006

Thanks marieanantoinette and forwardtaguig city

I agree the public consultation process can be quite dragging, it is because we haven't really learned how to go about it. Sa Philippine EIA system may guidelines in conducting consultation and i've attended a few that were facilitated very well by the EMB people.

Such public involvement processes are conducted effectively in Bangkok, Jakarta and of course, developed countries. I would like to believe we can do a good (better?) job in the consultation process. Meanwhile, ituloy ang action kung necessary at kayang i-justify. The point is this, the MMDA if it really wants to package itself as a metropolitan body that is fashioned after something like the Tokyo Metropolitan Government (as BF and some of his supporters have previously claimed), then it also should learn to adapt and implement sophisticated social mechanisms for program and project formulation and implementation. Di pwede puro pa-gwapo kung urbanidad talaga ang gusto!:)I kinda agree but as of the moment the MMDA is certainly far from being like these foreign entities because of the fact that its mandate is quite different and constraining than those of the latter (eg Tokyo). As you can see from the MMDA law, the agency is always dependent either on the President or the MMDA Council, which history have shown is very divisive and time consuming. There must be changes in the mandate of MMDA or there must ba a law that would finally determine what type of governance they want to make of Metro Manila. The present setup is quite annoying, time-consuming and inefficient. And not to mention full of politicking.

I agree. It would be nice to have a metropolitan government like that of Tokyo's where the equivalent of our cities and municipalities are the wards comprising TMG. I think this should be part of MMDA's effort - to come up with such a proposal complete with examples to justify a stronger, more effective MMDA that will have the mandate and the legal basis for formulating and implementing Metro-wide programs where mayors with vested interests cannot meddle with. BF doesn't lack for allies in the Executive and Legislative bodies so he also should be doing this homework, so to speak. The only danger, of course, for such a proposition is if the one replacing BF would be a weak, fence sitting, politicking person, hehe. Yun siguro ang risk.

I agree. It would be nice to have a metropolitan government like that of Tokyo's where the equivalent of our cities and municipalities are the wards comprising TMG. I think this should be part of MMDA's effort - to come up with such a proposal complete with examples to justify a stronger, more effective MMDA that will have the mandate and the legal basis for formulating and implementing Metro-wide programs where mayors with vested interests cannot meddle with. BF doesn't lack for allies in the Executive and Legislative bodies so he also should be doing this homework, so to speak. The only danger, of course, for such a proposition is if the one replacing BF would be a weak, fence sitting, politicking person, hehe. Yun siguro ang risk.There was a proposal before to make clear the mandate of MMDA but there was never a proposal to make a regional or centralized government for MM. It is almost impossible to do such because the 17 local executives are actually "little kings" of MM. All of them have their own clout not only in their respective territories but also in the national level as well. Kung mapapansin mo sa MMDA Council, ang ginagawa ng mga mayors kampihan. Parang mga batang naglalaro sa kalye. Kung hindi pa magrarally yung mga transport groups para sa single ticketing eh hindi pa sila kikilos. Actually, gusto pa nga nilang tutulan yung EO ni GMA for Single Ticketing. We need a miracle... and a little more innovative chairman than BF. :lol:

On another note, I'm glad the MMDA has cracked down on jeepneys with blaring stereos. It is not really a treat to ride these noisy jeepneys. The noise even becomes an excuse not to return sukli for your fare. Maybe they also should include private vehicles especially motorcycles whose unwanted sounds from their audio equipments are imposed on the general public. Many of these emit noise in the vicinity of schools and offices, where the pollution is most unwanted.

On another note, I'm glad the MMDA has cracked down on jeepneys with blaring stereos. It is not really a treat to ride these noisy jeepneys. The noise even becomes an excuse not to return sukli for your fare. Maybe they also should include private vehicles especially motorcycles whose unwanted sounds from their audio equipments are imposed on the general public. Many of these emit noise in the vicinity of schools and offices, where the pollution is most unwanted.Hahaha.. those jeeps are nothing compared to those buses under MRT-Ayala Station. :lol: Try to ride there on peak hours and it'll surely boil your brain. :lol:

There was a proposal before to make clear the mandate of MMDA but there was never a proposal to make a regional or centralized government for MM. It is almost impossible to do such because the 17 local executives are actually "little kings" of MM. All of them have their own clout not only in their respective territories but also in the national level as well. Kung mapapansin mo sa MMDA Council, ang ginagawa ng mga mayors kampihan. Parang mga batang naglalaro sa kalye. Kung hindi pa magrarally yung mga transport groups para sa single ticketing eh hindi pa sila kikilos. Actually, gusto pa nga nilang tutulan yung EO ni GMA for Single Ticketing. We need a miracle... and a little more innovative chairman than BF. :lol:

Actually, a lot of them don't attend the MMDA Council, hehe. Only a few do and these are the one who kind of depend on the MMDA to do their work for them. But that's another story. Well, if PGMA really has nothing to lose and she won't be extending beyond 2010, then maybe she can be the one to create this miracle and leave a legacy of having a strong metropolitan government. Kailangan pa rin ng magandang proposal na kayang depensahan against the legal barbs that might be thrown by those who'll oppose such.

Hahaha.. those jeeps are nothing compared to those buses under MRT-Ayala Station. :lol: Try to ride there on peak hours and it'll surely boil your brain. :lol:

Yup, tried that before. Deafening. That's why I always remember to take the MRT instead. I'm more of a rail user than a bus user...unless of course we have those BRT's up and running here in MM.

Sinasadya nila yung maingay na stereo para hindi sila makapanukli... buti wala na sila dahil talagang sira ang tenga ko lalo na kapag pumapasok ako. Ang ingay! Isa pa, paano na yung mga ibang sasakyan na maingay lalo na yung tricycles na nagpapainit/nagbubukas ng maiingay na stereo habang tulog ang mga tao sa gabi. Sa amin may isa...

I hope the MMDA include all those #%^8# noisy tambucho's as well!They are anyway considered pollution too.I have just had enough of these selfish _ _ _ _ _ _ ds!:bash:

A lot of people don't really care about the noise in our streets. The real deal here is that this kind of pollution damages our hearings. In the long run (if not short), exposure to noise leads to a lot of problems much like that of people who spent a lot of time in factories or in construction work using machines like pile drivers and jackhammers. Tolerated na kasi dahil akala ng marami it's a normal part of everyday life.

no wonder why the employers and the president herself are deaf when it comes to wage increase...

I hope the MMDA include all those #%^8# noisy tambucho's as well!They are anyway considered pollution too.I have just had enough of these selfish _ _ _ _ _ _ ds!:bash:

absolutely!!! MMDA should hear this

parang jaywalking yung mga tao sa left side ng pic ah
:lol::lol:
noong kinunan ko ng pic yan hindi pa bukas. kita mo mga tao naka green ang suot under construction pa pero finishing touches na lang

:lol::lol:
noong kinunan ko ng pic yan hindi pa bukas. kita mo mga tao naka green ang suot under construction pa pero finishing touches na lang

:lol:ah oki hehehe kaya naman pala hindi pa bukas. akala ko makukulit na mga kababayan na naman.

kukuha ako ng bagong pic bukas, pati yung sinasabi ng reyna na magulong bicutan market. hehehe

ang laki kasi ng metro manila eh. ang hirap i-discuss. hehehe.

eto na lang: new bridge over the Pasig River between EDSA (C4) and C5. Napapansin ko kasi na lagi na lang traffic sa Pasig-C5 to Kalayaan (Southbound) I think it's because its the only convenient way for people to go to Makati and Bonifacio GC. Sana merong tulay from north gate ng BGC pababa (sa area ng Makati Park & Garden) tapos going over Pasig River tapos continuing to Capitolyo. Di ba the Rizal capitol will be relocated and will be co-developed (daw) by the Ortigases and the Ayalas? Dapat yung Meralco Ave, i-tuwid pagdating ng DECS. Instead of ending with a T-road sa may Shaw, it should extend to the rotunda in front of Rizal Capitol. Problema na lang yung Kapitolyo village. kailangang i widen and may demolish ng mga houses for the new road linking Ortigas CBD and Bonifacio GC.

Dapat pala may light rail component din. para you can take the metro from ortigas to BGC

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1050/bgcortigasld0.jpg

ang laki kasi ng metro manila eh. ang hirap i-discuss. hehehe.

eto na lang: new bridge over the Pasig River between EDSA (C4) and C5. Napapansin ko kasi na lagi na lang traffic sa Pasig-C5 to Kalayaan (Southbound) I think it's because its the only convenient way for people to go to Makati and Bonifacio GC. Sana merong tulay from north gate ng BGC pababa (sa area ng Makati Park & Garden) tapos going over Pasig River tapos continuing to Capitolyo. Di ba the Rizal capitol will be relocated and will be co-developed (daw) by the Ortigases and the Ayalas? Dapat yung Meralco Ave, i-tuwid pagdating ng DECS. Instead of ending with a T-road sa may Shaw, it should extend to the rotunda in front of Rizal Capitol. Problema na lang yung Kapitolyo village. kailangang i widen and may demolish ng mga houses for the new road linking Ortigas CBD and Bonifacio GC.

Dapat pala may light rail component din. para you can take the metro from ortigas to BGC



ung light rail component pwede din ilink ung NAIA, Makati CBD, BGC, Ortigas saka eastwood xD

naisip ko nga rin yan eh. di ba may sinasabi silang subway from makati to BGC tapos may spur line yung NorthRail to NAIA. tapos may terminal station for all three lines sa BGC. yung lightrail galing sa eastwood papuntang Ortigas CBD tapos going to BGC. asteg.

I tried to locate the major radial and circumferential roads in MM and also the railways and LRT's. Just check if there are errors. :D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2283/2491061866_79f6eac2e5_o.jpg

Legend:
BLUE lines are Radial Roads
RED are railways and LRTs
YELLOW are circumferential roads; light yellow lines are those unfinished part of C3 and C5

CP Garcia Avenue inside UP campus is not part of C5. The yellow line should continue northwards after the CP Garcia-Katipunan intersection. In fact, the pavement for the NB direction in front of MWSS is already in place but the construction is somewhat stalled. The alignment of C5 is supposed to affect part of UP's property, particularly the informal settlements in that area that will be sandwiched by C5 and the existing road that becomes Tandang Sora.

Ayun sapul

Actually parts of C5 past commonwealth is done, Tandang Sora is huge at a certain point. Am not sure how they plan to widen it though.

The proposed alignment of C5 will no longer be along Tandang Sora. Instead, the road will pass through UP and swerve towards Luzon Avenue. It will then use a ROW that will eventually link up with Mindanao Avenue, NLEX and MacArthur Highway. Three interchanges were designed for these using the C5 north alignment terms of MNTC, assuming that the C5 North will be a tollway. MMDA has a different plan, however, wherein C5 North will be an urban arterial and free of charge. The two practically have the same alignment.

I tried to locate the major radial and circumferential roads in MM and also the railways and LRT's. Just check if there are errors. :D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2283/2491061866_79f6eac2e5_o.jpg

Legend:
BLUE lines are Radial Roads
RED are railways and LRTs
YELLOW are circumferential roads; light yellow parts are those unfinished part of C3 and C5

Damn. I wish those circumferential roads were a bit more round instead of squiggly. I guess it's really hard to buyout people's land to make way for major streets that go around the city.

CP Garcia Avenue inside UP campus is not part of C5. The yellow line should continue northwards after the CP Garcia-Katipunan intersection. In fact, the pavement for the NB direction in front of MWSS is already in place but the construction is somewhat stalled. The alignment of C5 is supposed to affect part of UP's property, particularly the informal settlements in that area that will be sandwiched by C5 and the existing road that becomes Tandang Sora.

The proposed alignment of C5 will no longer be along Tandang Sora. Instead, the road will pass through UP and swerve towards Luzon Avenue. It will then use a ROW that will eventually link up with Mindanao Avenue, NLEX and MacArthur Highway. Three interchanges were designed for these using the C5 north alignment terms of MNTC, assuming that the C5 North will be a tollway. MMDA has a different plan, however, wherein C5 North will be an urban arterial and free of charge. The two practically have the same alignment.I see. I gotta revise that since C5 is really a dilemma for me. I just based that on wikipedia. I have to find the plan in GMA's SONA last year. Actually, it isn't clear what plans they have for C5. I've been seeing various plans, which are very different from each other.

Ayun sapul
Actually parts of C5 past commonwealth is done, Tandang Sora is huge at a certain point. Am not sure how they plan to widen it though.There is an unfinished road (not sure if it's done now) called Republic Ave. Is that what you're talking about?

Damn. I wish those circumferential roads were a bit more round instead of squiggly. I guess it's really hard to buyout people's land to make way for major streets that go around the city.Yeah that's what I've also noticed.

I made this map to have a general view of the major roads in MM. As you can see, there are still many parts of the metro that should be included in the network. Some sections of circumferential roads are also taking some time to finish like C5 and C3. I'm not really sure about C3 but according to wikipedia, it is unfinished yet. Could someone please verify this? I've been searching the net but I couldn't find any sources. DPWH website is useless, so much for e-governance.

Wow XP, grabe ang effort. :applause:

OK. So I revised the C5 North Section in my map and this is how it looks like:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3163/2491529347_9d197d33a6_o.jpg

Notice that there are three plans in the north section of c5: the one going along North Ave and Mindanao Ave is the plan according to GMA's SONA last year; the Tandang Sora Ave. route; and the road on the upper part was the usual plan that I see in SSC and DPWH. It's kinda unclear, really. But since GMA have already showed it in her SONA, I guess that it would be the plan now. According to the SONA Technical report, civil works would start this year. Well, knowing how things go around here, I guess it would start a little later than that (but I'm still keeping my fingers crossed). :D

The designs for the road sections and interchanges were completed last year by a local firm for the MNTC group. Construction was to start but was stalled because of the sudden change in plans from a tollway (and part of the NLEX system) to an urban arterial (like the other circumferential roads).

The proposed alignment of C5 will no longer be along Tandang Sora. Instead, the road will pass through UP and swerve towards Luzon Avenue. It will then use a ROW that will eventually link up with Mindanao Avenue, NLEX and MacArthur Highway. Three interchanges were designed for these using the C5 north alignment terms of MNTC, assuming that the C5 North will be a tollway. MMDA has a different plan, however, wherein C5 North will be an urban arterial and free of charge. The two practically have the same alignment.

I see. I've heard of Mindanao being designated as part of c5 but could never see it somehow connecting to the tandang sora in a non oblique way, I guess the realignment has changed things and this is more realistic. I wonder how it will get to Midanao from Katipunan and if there are substantial ROW issues involved.

Re the tollway, on one side I worry if the gov't has the budget to actually do this but on the other side would prefer that c5 be completely a free road! (hopefully with controlled access in as many places as possible).

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di ko lang sure kung Republic ang pangalan noon. i'm not very familiar with the area in general just the big streets and not all of them at that!

Akala ko ba the MNTC is C-6?

MNTC runs NLEX, they have a proposal to connect NLEX to C5 at another point from NLEX and extend C5 all the way till Mindanao Ave etc.

The C5 design is to have an entry ramp at Mindanao Ave., a trumpet interchange at MacArthur Highway and and full clover leaf at NLEX. There will be several overpasses including one over the ROW of Northrail.

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pink for girls and blue for boys.
tignan mo nga yung mga kalsada oh walang kalat.
nung wala pa si Bayani panay basura diyan.

pink for girls and blue for boys.
tignan mo nga yung mga kalsada oh walang kalat.
nung wala pa si Bayani panay basura diyan.

malaki nga ang improvement sa garbage collection, dati gabundok ang basura sa tabi-tabi, weekly ata ang collection, ngayon araw-araw na.

Akala ko ba the MNTC is C-6?

MNTC is Manila North Tollways Corporation
C6 is composed of three segment, the Metro Manila Tollway (MMT), this is the Nlex-Slex connection, It is from Nlex in Marilao, Bulacan to upper Bicutan in Slex, the Laguna Bay Coastal Road (LBCR) from Bicutan to San Pedro, Laguna; and the C-6 south segment from San Pedro to the Cavite Coastal Road in Noveleta, Cavite. An estimated length of 75.45 km

^^ mmda does not handle garbage collection., in any way, anywhere. :) they're only involved with managing/coordinating the dump sites.,

kudos to mmda for installing new reflectorized stickers on the u turn slot concrete barriers! ^^

if u think this is the old shabby metal one(that is hardly seen during the night), no its not. its a real neon surface that is 'sticked' to the concrete barriers. very creative! and yet so inexpensive solution to avoid accidents!

one of the better solutions mmda has introduced to date. sometimes makes me think im in tokyo or something, cool haha. u can actually see it as far as 300 meters back. but some arent properly placed. like at the foot of the flyovers..

they should cover the entire metro with this ingenious warning device! :applause:

The downside of the stickers of course is that people have started to pick off some of 'em, hehe.

Nevertheless, the MMDA people should also clean them stickers regularly as the soot and dust eventually cover the reflectors. Sayang din.

Meron bang elevated u turn ang MMDA?

Ayala tapped as consultant for airports’ major facelift
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Ayala tapped as consultant for airports’ major facelift By Rio N. Araja

CITY and airport officials have tapped Ayala Property Management Corp. to help plan a P500-million facelift of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport complex.

The plan included improving the 22-kilometer stretch of road from Roxas Boulevard to the airport and rehabilitating the sidewalks, said Robert Nacianceno, general manager of the Metro Manila Development Authority.

The project would also include burying all public utility wires, evicting hundreds of squatter families along MIA Road, Naia Road, Domestic Road, Airport Road, Tramo and Andrews Avenue, removing all illegal structures, building pedestrian footbridges, and installing 55-foot lamp posts and see-through fences.

Nacianceno said the funds would come from the MMDA under the Office of the President, the Manila International Airport Authority, and the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. Ayala Property, a subsidiary of the country’s largest and most experienced real estate developer, will provide technical support.

“Ayala is a consultant of MIAA, while we provide the development plan of the areas and offer our best engineers, architects and landscape artists,” Nacianceno said.

“This initiative is in support of the government’s thrust to give the premiere gateway to our country a world-class character,” he said.

“We will provide a welcoming atmosphere for visitors and a warm farewell for those leaving the country.”

MMDA Chairman Bayani Fernando said the government would offer a relocation site for displaced squatters near the airport complex under a low-cost housing program.

He also acknowledged the cooperation of Pasay City Mayor Wenceslao Trinidad in helping to ease traffic going to the airport by banning all cargo trucks, buses and tricycles from Domestic Road and Andrews Avenue.

Meanwhile, airport officials said they were working to get the mothballed Terminal-3 open by the end of the year.

Airport manager Alfredo Cusi said eight foreign and local construction companies—including CNA of Singapore, First Balfour Inc. and FF Cruz—had signified their intention to finish the newest terminal.

“We hope we will be able to make a partial opening this year,” Cusi said. With Vito Barcelo

This is a good start. I just hope that they expand the concept to the major roads of the metro. Out with the overhead utility wires!

Airports, as they say, are gateways to the country and provides visitors with a glimpse or taste of the place they're visiting. Pag bulok ang airport, bulok din ang perception ng mga visitors sa lugar na iyun. I look forward to seeing this major facelift being realized once and for all. But facelift aside, major reforms should also be underway for airport officials and personnel. Hindi uubra, hindi acceptable yung "we do the extra smile" campaign nila.

Meron bang elevated u turn ang MMDA?

The elevated u turn is under construction at C5 corner Kalayaan Ave.

^^ mmda does not handle garbage collection., in any way, anywhere. :) they're only involved with managing/coordinating the dump sites.,

ganun? sa TV AD kasi sila nagsasabi.
oh well, baby oil, basta malinis na ang mga kalye:D

^^ akala ko din nung una., pero nung pumunta ako sa MMDA HQ sa guadalupe to do some research on garbage collection systems (for thesis :) ) wala daw sila, since hindi naman daw sila ang naghahandle ng collections. :)

^^ akala ko din nung una., pero nung pumunta ako sa MMDA HQ sa guadalupe to do some research on garbage collection systems (for thesis :) ) wala daw sila, since hindi naman daw sila ang naghahandle ng collections. :)

So the ads in the movie houses are misleading. BF was talking about garbage collection.

.., i guess., :)

Hi guys! I'm new to this whole forum thing, although I've been reading posts on transport and infrastructure here (especially this thread) since the start of the year. Just wanna join in lang kung ok lang po sa inyo.


Edsa now off limits to buses without microchip IDs
source: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/infotech/view/20080520-137776/Edsa-now-off-limits-to-buses-without-microchip-IDs

By Angela Casauay
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 21:14:00 05/20/2008


MANILA, Philippines -- Public buses without microchip identification tags are no longer allowed on Edsa as part of the Metro Manila Development Authority's Organized Bus Route (OBR) system.

Implementation of the "No Chips, No Trip" policy began on Tuesday, with at least 19 buses apprehended by noon. Under the new rule, all bus operators should equip their vehicles with radio frequency identification (RFID) tags to distinguish legitimate from "colorum" buses -- those without proper franchises -- and to keep track of the vehicles’ movements.

A bus caught without the microchip has to return the fares to passengers. Traffic enforcers would then bring the bus to the MMDA impounding yard, officials said.

Angelito Vergel de Dios, executive director of the MMDA’s Traffic Operations center, could not say how many more buses were apprehended later Tuesday. Most of the 19 buses apprehended during the morning did not have the required microchips while the few others were flagged down for other offenses.

MMDA Chairman Bayani Fernando said the agency had notified operators months ago to have their units tagged at OBR terminals.

But MMDA data showed only 2,500 out of 3,500 buses plying EDSA have had microchips installed. The rest are presumed to be colorum or without franchises.

"It's high time to throw the book at those who continue to defy the law. (Otherwise) our well-meaning efforts to ease traffic and restore order and discipline on the streets will go down the drain," Fernando said in a statement.

Through the OBR, MMDA officials hope to install an efficient system for dispatching buses by designating loading stations. Surveillance cameras and microchips will allow authorities to keep track of vehicles.

Buses will be dispatched from MMDA-established terminals on a "first on, first off" basis.

Aside from minimizing illegal transport operations, the OBR system also aims to increase fuel cost savings for bus operators as buses will have to make fewer trips but will be carrying higher passenger loads.

Conangi, there are separate threads for different transport topics. If you want to discuss buses, you can post in those threads so that others who are similarly interested can share in the discussion. The MMDA bus program though is arguably part of the Metro Guapo campaign.

Welcome Conangi.

I'll repost your article on the BRT thread as well as the OBR has been tossed up as a precursor to BRT.

In any case it will be good if they can start catching the colorum buses because they have no chips and makes it easier to identify them. That way the responsible bus companies can try make this scheduling thing work.

Hi guys! I'm new to this whole forum thing, although I've been reading posts on transport and infrastructure here (especially this thread) since the start of the year. Just wanna join in lang kung ok lang po sa inyo.


Welcome conangi. Traffic flow in EDSA has improved this morning. This is based on my experience :) Is it due to the new system?

Oh yeah. Forgot about the transportation thread. Thanks! Anyway, I think there's a slight improvement in traffic, but some buses still stop to get passengers few meters away from mmda terminals.

Gusto ko yung pagtanim nila ng trees along EDSA. :okay:

Question to the experts here:

Why doesnt the MMDA make a good effort to paint road lanes on our roads? especially along EDSA. and while at it, why don't they remove (via striped lanes or road blocks) the various bottle necks (merging lanes) also?

Dont you guys think that by removing some of these lanes that lead to merge points will alleviate traffic?

because nobody follows the lanes and they just don't feel like enforcing it. wala lang

uhmm i tend to think that drivers (even jeepney drivers) naturally tend to follow lanes, all things being equal. Things turn topsy turvy when the lanes dont make sense and end up merging, or end up to a dead end..

one other things, if nothing else, adding good, correct road lanes will force the mmda or traffic enforcers to enforce the lanes.. (another source of income for them)

not true, as far as i know the entire 16 kms plus stretch of edsa from monumento to edsa ext were recently painted with prominent road markings. which parts are u referring to?

the parts that i know of that doesnt have markings is well ... the ever ugly shoddy and dilapidated magallanes interchange :bash:

another note, why are parts of edsa where there are mrt stations dont have streetlights installed? mmda should do a better job illumating certain parts of edsa!

laki na rin ng improve ng manila today ahh... i remember when BF is the of mayor the marikina, the city so cleaniest and has a hi tech facilty of the municipality para kang nasa mall ehh sa dame ng Electronic board lalo na ung CR nila pede ka ng matulog!

because nobody follows the lanes and they just don't feel like enforcing it. wala lang

not the case lately, i note a significant improvement. some people also took notice that manila now is more organized, well organized chaos that is hehe

what is lacking in our road design is sophistication! we follow too closely U.S. road layout-- which in my opinion is second rate compared with british design. look at cities like Hongkong singapore (they have road designs almost perfect similarity with London's), also bangkok roads are more sophisticated in terms of generous road markings and complexity similar to tokyo's often complicated road layouts:nuts:

totoo nga malaki na ang improvement. sana tuloy tuloy na to.

Gusto ko yung pagtanim nila ng trees along EDSA. :okay:

trees are good but instead.. streetlights are definitely better! and more than welcome.

mmda could also copy beijing's ring roads (similar to our edsa). but theirs is like 50% brighter than ours. all of their streetlights are dual-layered, meaning that two bulbs are installed in every lamppost giving more light. Jakarta also tried to copy this design..

totoo nga malaki na ang improvement. sana tuloy tuloy na to.

yess i hope :) palagay ko din dahil din ito sa mas magagandang kalsada lately. better roads make you energized, like slogan ng mmda " metro gwapo, tao ganado! "

sana tlga tuloy tuloy na ito, ayoko nang makita muli ang maynila in the past parang wild wild west.. lahat kaskasero! ang aangas magdrive! tapos mga naka suvs pa! mabuti na ngayon mas nagiging modern na tyo mas pinipili na natin mga sedans (like with KL bangkok )

Btw, how is the construction of the first elevated U-Turn in C-5-Kalayaan?

^^^ Tuloy ata yung ELEVATED kuno na U-Turn ng MMDA. At saang lupalop ka sa mundo nakarinig ng elevated U-turn? Alam ko pinag talunan ito ng DPWH at MMDA. DPWH's proposal is about 600 Million for an Underpass. While MMDA has a 300+ Million budget for the Elevated U-turn. Pero some engineers were hesitant kung possible nga itong U-turn becuase it will create daw some trouble in terms of traffic tsaka hindi daw enough yung radius ng U-turn to facilitate it. I watched it ata sa TVP or XXX or Correspondents or Probe. Di ko alam.

Wah! :lol: :lol:

^ Yes it is under construction that's why I was asking kung ano na ang status n'ya ngayon. :)

Speaking of Elevated U-Turns, meron bang ibang lugar sa mundo na merong ganito? O baka unique Pinoy innovation na naman ito. :lol:

I heard somewhere here na sa bangkok nila nakuha yung idea ng elevated U-turn slot

eksaktong kinopya lang ito sa bangkok..

pero sana ang kalalabasan mas maganda pa, its time to shine..
wag tayo pahuhuli!

^^^^ Ugh! Whatever Bangkok! :j/k:

Akala ko isa na itong Pinoy original breakthrough. Oh well... as usual..... kopya.

Wah! :lol: :lol:

in terms of innovation kasi, mas radical sila

nagaaspire talaga sila maging isang second tokyo sa lahat, pansin ko lang
pero syempre hindi din mawawala dyan ang kakayanan at pondo
obvious naman na mas mayaman sila sa atin kaya nakagawa sila ng maayos na mrt ang BTS skytrain (at double o triple stacked pa!) :nuts:

kung ako lang in favor ako sa elevated u turn!

nakita naman natin kung gaano kapangit ang mga underpass natin like in ayala/ pioneer:ohno:..

at isa pa, the more flyovers-- lalo tayong nagmumukhang progresibo !:colgate:

^^^^ You know you're right about that. Siguro napag-iiwanan tayo ng panahon kasi sa mga maka-Third World na kamunduhan at kautakan ng mga ilan nating kababayan kaya hindi tayo umuunlad. Er......

Wah! :lol: :lol:

^ Yes it is under construction that's why I was asking kung ano na ang status n'ya ngayon. :)

Speaking of Elevated U-Turns, meron bang ibang lugar sa mundo na merong ganito? O baka unique Pinoy innovation na naman ito. :lol:





Nage-gets ko ang ibig sabihin ng mga Engineers sa MMDA.
Kulang pa sa pananaw ang mga Pinoy na nasa Metro Manila na ang sinasabi ng MMDA o BF patungkol sa elevated U-turn.

Kapag nagkaroon na ng isang mala-Magallanes inter-change dyan sa Sen.Gil Puyat Ave - EDSA intersection; saka pa lang papasukin o dadagsain ng mga foreign investor ang FBDC project dyan sa dating Fort Bonifacio.


Mura lang naman ang pamasahe papunta sa Singapore at sa loob ng 48 hrs-72hrs ay makakagawa ka ng sariling analysis at recommendasyon kung bakit dinadagsa ng mga investor ang Singapore.
Hindi ako nagtataka kung bakit mataas ang respeto ng mga taga ibang bansa sa Singapore? Dahil tinuturing nila na isang tunay na bansa(Parliamentary/Republic) ang islang ito na nasa dulo ng Malay Peninsula.

Ipagkumpara mo ang EDSA(C-4) sa kahit anu mang EXPRESSWAY (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Expressways_of_Singapore) sa Singapore... (kahit na SLEX o NLEX pa?).
Mapapansin mo talaga na ginawa ito upang pagsilbihan ang taumbayan at estado at hindi ang mga negosyo.

Halos isang taon din ako sa Singapore, 11 months to be exact.
Masasabi ko na ang Pilipinas ang pinaka-magandang bansa ng Africa sa Asya.

Elevated U-turn pictures


from Highways & Expressways in Thailand Thread
originally posted by Chriszwolle

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nice! there is something similar to that "u" in macau near the ferry terminal... only smaller

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Ohhh...Those are my pictures! :)
They are the elevated u-turn on Motorway No.7 Bangkok-Suvarnabhumi-Pattaya.

Elevated u-turn in Bangkok are mostly on the major highways or motorways.
There is also one underground u-turn as I know.

isn't there an elevated uturn on C5 going to frontera verde or tiendesitas, hypermart something like that?

not the case lately, i note a significant improvement. some people also took notice that manila now is more organized, well organized chaos that is hehe

what is lacking in our road design is sophistication! we follow too closely U.S. road layout-- which in my opinion is second rate compared with british design. look at cities like Hongkong singapore (they have road designs almost perfect similarity with London's), also bangkok roads are more sophisticated in terms of generous road markings and complexity similar to tokyo's often complicated road layouts:nuts:

really i hope so.

Ipagkumpara mo ang EDSA(C-4) sa kahit anu mang EXPRESSWAY (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Expressways_of_Singapore) sa Singapore... (kahit na SLEX o NLEX pa?).
Mapapansin mo talaga na ginawa ito upang pagsilbihan ang taumbayan at estado at hindi ang mga negosyo.

Halos isang taon din ako sa Singapore, 11 months to be exact.
Masasabi ko na ang Pilipinas ang pinaka-magandang bansa ng Africa sa Asya.

Masyado mo namang nilait ang Pinas....have you traveled to other Asian countries????? I bet not, before you make some pronouncements. I've travelled extensively in Asia and surely, ours is a lot better compared to a number of countries! Our NLEX and STCEX are comparable to other major highways in the other cities of the world.

^^^ Tuloy ata yung ELEVATED kuno na U-Turn ng MMDA. At saang lupalop ka sa mundo nakarinig ng elevated U-turn? Alam ko pinag talunan ito ng DPWH at MMDA. DPWH's proposal is about 600 Million for an Underpass. While MMDA has a 300+ Million budget for the Elevated U-turn. Pero some engineers were hesitant kung possible nga itong U-turn becuase it will create daw some trouble in terms of traffic tsaka hindi daw enough yung radius ng U-turn to facilitate it. I watched it ata sa TVP or XXX or Correspondents or Probe. Di ko alam.

Wah! :lol: :lol:

People should research first before making statements. I've seen the elevated u turn in BKK and Bayani even acknowledged it in one of his interviews that since BKK and MNL face the same problem in traffic mess, and BKK was successful in implementing the elevated u-turn, he will do that here in MNL and if it's going to be smooth, he might introduce the same concept in other parts of metropolis.

isn't there an elevated uturn on C5 going to frontera verde or tiendesitas, hypermart something like that?

Hi, none. it's the usual u-turn at road level.

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People should research first before making statements. I've seen the elevated u turn in BKK and Bayani even acknowledged it in one of his interviews that since BKK and MNL face the same problem in traffic mess, and BKK was successful in implementing the elevated u-turn, he will do that here in MNL and if it's going to be smooth, he might introduce the same concept in other parts of metropolis.

I have been finding the article but i'm unsuccessful with the goal to find it. Pero I watched it somewhere on the TV. I made that statement of mine because I am sure of the info I have. I didn't just picked it out of nowhere. At least I knew something about the news.But thank you though! Peace! :) :)
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Masyado mo namang nilait ang Pinas....have you traveled to other Asian countries????? I bet not, before you make some pronouncements. I've travelled extensively in Asia and surely, ours is a lot better compared to a number of countries! Our NLEX and STCEX are comparable to other major highways in the other cities of the world.

May mga tao kasi makapunta lang sa ibang bansa akala mo kung sino na, at sobrang manlait sa pinanggalingan:lol:

isn't there an elevated uturn on C5 going to frontera verde or tiendesitas, hypermart something like that?

The u-turn is under the flyover..

^ Yep it's under the flyover. Natatandaan ko pa 'yan kasi 'yan ang pinakaginagamit namin na u-turn slot sa buong Metro Manila. :lol:

Teka lang mga bro, may tanong po ako. Buhay pa ba ang wet flag campaign ng MMDA na kung saan babasain ang sinumang tatawid sa EDSA ng wala sa pedestrian lane?

^^ wala na ako nakikitang ganun.

May mga tao kasi makapunta lang sa ibang bansa akala mo kung sino na, at sobrang manlait sa pinanggalingan:lol:





Gordon Summer once said:
"I'm an Englishman in NY"

Sana pala iyong unang alis o pagtrabaho ko sa ibang bansa,
Sa Bangkok ako nagpunta.
Eh nagkataon na sa Singapore ako pinadala ng principal ko dito sa Pinas?

Isang beses pa lang ako nakapag-trabaho sa ibang bansa, pero nuong ipinagkumpara ko ang Singapore sa Metro Manila-Rizal.
Alam nyo na siguro ang isasagot ko?

--Maganda magtrabaho sa Africa.


Bakit kaya ang karamihan sa mga bebot sa Bangkok walang mga kamukha?
At talaga namang naiiba sila?

isa lang masasabi..mahal ko ang pinas..hahaha..at walang ng ibang gaganda pa sa pinas.. hehehe..gaya din kayo..para masaya.. kung ang pinoy lang eh mahal ang pinas edi wala ng problema..un lang naman ang kaylangan ng pinas..ung mahalin sya ng pinoy.. kasi naman mismong pinoy ang n ninira ng pinas..yan tuloy..hai..bsta i love manila at pinas hehehe.. ^_^

^^^^ Agree! Filipinos love Philippines! YEHEY! :lol: :lol:

We should love the Philippines! I love the Philippines! I love my hometown!

I agree! Feeling ko kapag may sense of nationalism and self-discipline ang mga tao, sunod-sunod na ang development ng bansa.

Gordon Summer once said:
"I'm an Englishman in NY"

Sana pala iyong unang alis o pagtrabaho ko sa ibang bansa,
Sa Bangkok ako nagpunta.
Eh nagkataon na sa Singapore ako pinadala ng principal ko dito sa Pinas?

Isang beses pa lang ako nakapag-trabaho sa ibang bansa, pero nuong ipinagkumpara ko ang Singapore sa Metro Manila-Rizal.
Alam nyo na siguro ang isasagot ko?

--Maganda magtrabaho sa Africa.


Bakit kaya ang karamihan sa mga bebot sa Bangkok walang mga kamukha?
At talaga namang naiiba sila?

You should go to Swaziland, Ethiopia, Uganda, Nigeria, and a lot of AFrican countries before you make this statement.

Ang hirap sa yo, nakapunta lang ng Singapore, akala mo ang dami mo nang alam. Hundreds of thousands of Pinoy tourists have visited Singapura tetapi tidak begitu merusak nama nya Filipina. (I assume you understand Bahasa Melayu or Bahasa Indonesia since you lived there for 11 months :lol:) ucapkanlah terima kasih kepada negara yang memberikan keuntungan kepada mu!!!

:)

I agree! Feeling ko kapag may sense of nationalism and self-discipline ang mga tao, sunod-sunod na ang development ng bansa.

I agree

^^^^ Me too! :)

mga tao me nationalism at sense of pride. pero yung mga politico na nagpapatakbo ng bayan ay walang wala!

mga tao me nationalism at sense of pride. pero yung mga politico na nagpapatakbo ng bayan ay walang wala!

Hindi lang nationalism ang wala sila, pati puso at kaluluwa!!!

Hindi lang nationalism ang wala sila, pati puso at kaluluwa!!!

sobra ka namn kung wala sila noon eh di sana, inubos na agad nila ang pera:D hindi eh, nagpagawa pa sila ng substandard school buildings, substandard roads:D

sobra ka namn kung wala sila noon eh di sana, inubos na agad nila ang pera:D hindi eh, nagpagawa pa sila ng substandard school buildings, substandard roads:D

tama ka nga kuya amigo32... e di substandard na lang ang puso at kaluluwa nila...

Gordon Summer once said:
"I'm an Englishman in NY"

Sana pala iyong unang alis o pagtrabaho ko sa ibang bansa,
Sa Bangkok ako nagpunta.
Eh nagkataon na sa Singapore ako pinadala ng principal ko dito sa Pinas?

Isang beses pa lang ako nakapag-trabaho sa ibang bansa, pero nuong ipinagkumpara ko ang Singapore sa Metro Manila-Rizal.
Alam nyo na siguro ang isasagot ko?

--Maganda magtrabaho sa Africa.


Bakit kaya ang karamihan sa mga bebot sa Bangkok walang mga kamukha?
At talaga namang naiiba sila?

Kamu janganlah begitulah....

i'm gonna miss our country hehe, pero gusto ko pagbalik ko dito pa rin ako mag-reretire at magpapahinga

i'm gonna miss our country hehe, pero gusto ko pagbalik ko dito pa rin ako mag-reretire at magpapahinga

pag nasa ibang bansa ka na huwag siraan ang Pinas ha:D tulad ng iba dyan:D

pag nasa ibang bansa ka na huwag siraan ang Pinas ha:D tulad ng iba dyan:D

Completely agree. Ako nga every time I talk to my friends from abroad, I see to it to talk objectively about Pinas and of course show the good side whenever they come to this country. I'm not saying Pinas is perfect but surely, we have our share of comfort, the skyscrapers, :) the luxury, and the like. Huwag naman ikumpara sa Africa....masyado crab mentality ang dating.

MMDA: Metro Manila flooding reduced this year (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=119508)

Only a few thousand hectares of Metro Manila land, which is equivalent to the area of one town, is expected to suffer from flooding during this rainy season, Chairman Bayani Fernando of the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) said Monday.

Fernando said the MMDA expects only 2,000 hectares of Metro Manila to experience intermittent flooding during the rainy season, down from the 13,000 hectares that is usually flooded in the past.

Fernando said the MMDA worked all throughout the dry months to rid the floodgates in Metro Manila of garbage, boulders and other debris. Blocked canals and waterways have also been cleared, he added.

He said the agency has also finished fixing five flood pumps in the Camanava (Caloocan, Malabon, Navotas, Valenzuela) area.

The Camanava area is the most problematic district in Metro Manila during the rainy season. A few hours of continuous raining submerges several villages in the area under knee-deep to waist-level flooding.

Fernando said the MMDA is also clearing some areas in San Juan City and in Manila in preparation for the rainy season.

haaay.. i spent a total of maybe 2 years abroad in the past 4 years.. putol putol and in different places..

yes, i try very hard to present a very objective picture of the philippines to my foreign friends. and i try not to bitch about things dito sa atin.

pero admittedly, if you get "exposed" to life abroad, where there is a working justice system, where civil service is REALLY service, where things are efficient and where money is not the final arbiter of things, medyo talagang mag-iisip ka about how things are dito sa atin.

the adjective "the only african country in asia" is actually very very apt. sad to say.

haaay.. i spent a total of maybe 2 years abroad in the past 4 years.. putol putol and in different places..

yes, i try very hard to present a very objective picture of the philippines to my foreign friends. and i try not to bitch about things dito sa atin.

pero admittedly, if you get "exposed" to life abroad, where there is a working justice system, where civil service is REALLY service, where things are efficient and where money is not the final arbiter of things, medyo talagang mag-iisip ka about how things are dito sa atin.

the adjective "the only african country in asia" is actually very very apt. sad to say.

Well, it is your own opinion but may I ask you if you've been to Ethipioa, Somalia, Nigeria, Afghanistan, Cambodia, Pakistan? etc. etc?

^^uhh how do you know also. For all you know those aforementioned countries may not have as high a gdp but their quality of life is better . let's just not compare.

^^uhh how do you know also. For all you know those aforementioned countries may not have as high a gdp but their quality of life is better . let's just not compare.

Well, I've been to countries worse than the Philippines, yes, it is not good to compare but I reacted only because of that comment, not from you though.

Well, it is your own opinion but may I ask you if you've been to Ethipioa, Somalia, Nigeria, Afghanistan, Cambodia, Pakistan? etc. etc?

uhmm.. yeah.. actually. except for Somalia (i think bawal), afghanistan (not in africa), Cambodia and Pakistan (also not in africa but i've been to cambodia).

Sir, i may have touched a nerve so im sorry. i never meant it as a condescending remark. More of a remark of frustration.

We are exploring doing some business in Africa. So i guess i speak with some degree of authority (some small degree lang. again hindi ako ngmamalaki).

Back to the comment, is it exaggerated? maybe maybe.. I'll grant you we are not experiencing famine and civil war pa but look at the comparisons. Here are some:
1. Where can you pay off virtually every level of government to get what you want?

2. Where can you overturn an already decided case via money? WHere can a non-bailable offense be down graded?

3. Where can ballot boxes disappear and reappear after a few days?

I have some african friends and we discuss things din. Im sorry again if i touched a nerve pero i love the country same as you. I didnt mean it an insult. Frustration man..

anyhow, thanks for your comment. i'll be clearer next time. and probably avoid posting out of frustration.. cheers

^^I share your views mate and I think "Frustratiion" is something most of us here,can agree about the goings on in our country.Have we actually lost as a people to find the leaders to genuinely help this country? Is it the continuing influence of the Catholic church in govt. policies that hamper our growth as a nation that we once was 40 years ago?These concerns were a primary concern to Rizal during his time,yet have we really learned from it?

uhmm.. yeah.. actually. except for Somalia (i think bawal), afghanistan (not in africa), Cambodia and Pakistan (also not in africa but i've been to cambodia).

Bro, you need not tell me the geography, of course I know these countries. As I said, I've been to countries worse than the PHilippines.

Sir, i may have touched a nerve so im sorry. i never meant it as a condescending remark. More of a remark of frustration.

We are exploring doing some business in Africa. So i guess i speak with some degree of authority (some small degree lang. again hindi ako ngmamalaki).

Back to the comment, is it exaggerated? maybe maybe.. I'll grant you we are not experiencing famine and civil war pa but look at the comparisons. Here are some:
1. Where can you pay off virtually every level of government to get what you want?

This is not unique to the Philippines, I won't mention countries here but surely, a lot of countries.
2. Where can you overturn an already decided case via money? WHere can a non-bailable offense be down graded?
I agree with you on this. Our judicial system is far from perfect wherein the rich can easily buy freedom with few exceptions. But again, I know of some countries with the same situation as ours.

3. Where can ballot boxes disappear and reappear after a few days?
This will be addressed once we computerize the elections.

I have some african friends and we discuss things din. Im sorry again if i touched a nerve pero i love the country same as you. I didnt mean it an insult. Frustration man..
anyhow, thanks for your comment. i'll be clearer next time. and probably avoid posting out of frustration.. cheers

Thanks also. Very fruitful discussion indeed. I also have few African friends. cheers :cheers:

@ rickienoy,

your frustration was definitely obvious on your earlier post. A lot of people, especially here in SSC, know of the situation in the Philippines. The last thing we need is for more negativity to be shoved up our asses. Such negativity after all hasn't gotten us anywhere near the countries you've been in. I come from a great city in the midwest, but i never compare it to Manila, because cities develope in their own pace. My great city in the midwest was once the crossroads of America, an industrial giant where pollution was debillitating and crime unrivaled anywhere in the world. Today i think of it as the most beautiful city in America and civic pride is greater than anywhere in America.

There is a feeling of helplessness sometimes, when one goes around the country and sees the abject poverty and chaos that embraces the entire nation, but the persistence of only a few to change this and to keep doing their part as ordinary citizens no matter how miniscule the effect, will eventually see a better city in the future and say to themselves, "i never gave up on my country." Now can we say the same to ourselves in the future, that "I never gave up on my country?"

@ rickienoy,

your frustration was definitely obvious on your earlier post. A lot of people, especially here in SSC, know of the situation in the Philippines. The last thing we need is for more negativity to be shoved up our asses. Such negativity after all hasn't gotten us anywhere near the countries you've been in. I come from a great city in the midwest, but i never compare it to Manila, because cities develope in their own pace. My great city in the midwest was once the crossroads of America, an industrial giant where pollution was debillitating and crime unrivaled anywhere in the world. Today i think of it as the most beautiful city in America and civic pride is greater than anywhere in America.

There is a feeling of helplessness sometimes, when one goes around the country and sees the abject poverty and chaos that embraces the entire nation, but the persistence of only a few to change this and to keep doing their part as ordinary citizens no matter how miniscule the effect, will eventually see a better city in the future and say to themselves, "i never gave up on my country." Now can we say the same to ourselves in the future, that "I never gave up on my country?":bow::bow::bow: I salute you, Ben.

Clarification: OFWs may not be deployed to Afghanistan (POEA deployment bans are in place against Afghanistan, Lebanon, Nigeria and Iraq), but you can travel there anyway. Same with Somalia. Kaya nga Philippine passports are stamped with "NOT VALID FOR TRAVEL TO IRAQ" and that stamp only.

Point is this, though: the Philippines has been put in a very bad light already, and it is very much wrong to compare it to other places as it is. The previous comments are a classic (and I mean classic) example of the dot-and-circle mentality that so many Filipinos have: that when something is wrong, you only focus on the wrongs of that person/place/thing and not the positive things. Maybe that's a reason why we're more reactive than proactive, or why our politicians love to nit-pick at every detail in their investigations "in aid of legislation".

This type of mentality is one of the reasons why so many Filipinos emigrate to the United States (my mom is a classic example; she will NEVER return to the Philippines to live there). How will we ever improve if our mentality is one that is always focused on the negative? I agree that Pittsburgh is better than Manila in ways unimaginable to the Filipino psyche (clean, organized and best of all, NO TRAFFIC), but there are also positive things in Manila that we can be proud of. It just takes some soul-searching to look.

This type of mentality is one of the reasons why so many Filipinos emigrate to the United States (my mom is a classic example; she will NEVER return to the Philippines to live there). How will we ever improve if our mentality is one that is always focused on the negative? I agree that Pittsburgh is better than Manila in ways unimaginable to the Filipino psyche (clean, organized and best of all, NO TRAFFIC), but there are also positive things in Manila that we can be proud of. It just takes some soul-searching to look.

Well said. I chose to live here in the Philippines although I could have lived in the USA with legal documents or in Canada (guys don't misinterpret me as nagyayabang). I love this country. Having lived overseas for 6 years, I can say that there is no place like home :) :) :)

:bow::bow::bow: I salute you, Ben.

Thank you your highness!!!!!!!!

May i add, sky, that the food in the Philippines itself is reason enough to stay in the country!

At saka mami-miss ko ang brownout, baha at political noise sa ibang bansa... dito pa rin ako!

maiba ako..kanina na pansin ko lang ung mga MMDA pila pila sila sa edsa.. nag babantay sa yellow line.. mga siguro tig 5m ung layo nila sa isat isa or 7m ata.. tpos iyon.. kahapon pa walang jeep..hehehe... dagdag lang..

Just an observation lang, why is everybody here so sensitive and quick to defend whenever someone points out deficiencies in our society. Why catn we take criticism with a grain of salt. How else can we improve our country if we only want to hear praises and positive comments?

^^ Criticism is good, yes. But what incentive do you have to improve if you're always criticized? You can't always fight fire with fire.

BTW, are we OT yet?

Just an observation lang, why is everybody here so sensitive and quick to defend whenever someone points out deficiencies in our society. Why catn we take criticism with a grain of salt. How else can we improve our country if we only want to hear praises and positive comments?


Constructive criticism is different from incessant bitching. That's all i have to say about that.

Guys for me i will love to live in this country! Kung tutuusin naman kasi maganda dito sa Pilipinas kaya lang pumapangit ang image na bansa eh dahil sa ilan sa ating mga kababayan sa ibang bansa, sa Media at sa mga Politiko.

Pero check it out maraming mga dayuhan ang gustong manirahan dito mukha nga in the future majority ng mga nakatira sa Pilipinas ay mga dayuhan from Korea,Japan,China and Europe at lahat ng mga Pilipino eh nasa Japan,Australia,Canada and USA. Hay kakalungot talaga dahil mga dayuhan mismo ang nakakakita ng kagandahan ng ating bansa.

the foreigners will take better good care of it^^.
the CHinese will take over the entire SE Asian region.

Tanong lang.. Ano na ba nangyari sa Camanava Flood Control Project? I was watching the "MMDA Channel" nung isang araw. Fineature dun yung Flood Control Projects (particularly the Camanava Project) ng MMDA tsaka Garbage Collection projects.

Guys for me i will love to live in this country! Kung tutuusin naman kasi maganda dito sa Pilipinas kaya lang pumapangit ang image na bansa eh dahil sa ilan sa ating mga kababayan sa ibang bansa, sa Media at sa mga Politiko.

Pero check it out maraming mga dayuhan ang gustong manirahan dito mukha nga in the future majority ng mga nakatira sa Pilipinas ay mga dayuhan from Korea,Japan,China and Europe at lahat ng mga Pilipino eh nasa Japan,Australia,Canada and USA. Hay kakalungot talaga dahil mga dayuhan mismo ang nakakakita ng kagandahan ng ating bansa.

don't be too hasty in judging our other kababayans. Some just simply want to raise the standards and expectations of the people so things will change and improve. So we don't need the term world class everytime we see superior quality in the PHils.
For example i went to a restaurant that had an absolute pigsty bathroom , I made an innocent comment about how that would never pass in another country and this one lady snapped at me that not to be maarte, I am in the PHilippines and not to expect anything more. So should we always equate the PHils to anything substandard and mediocrity. I know it has been in the past but things should change somehow , someday, right?

^^ I agree. The "pwede na yan" attitude of some Filipinos should be eradicated. :)

Sorry yun po kasi nakikita pero alam ko hindi lahat pero yun ilan!like for example my relatives!

Vol. XXI, No. 212
Thursday, May 29, 2008 | MANILA, PHILIPPINES
Opinion
Upshot
By Bernardo V. Lopez
Bayani’s Kalayaan fiasco

Bayani Fernando, chairman of the Metro Manila Development Authority, is the engineer-wannabe who designed the expensive Kalayaan elevated U-turn that is now being built.

Engineers I interviewed have termed it "Jurassic," "irreversible," and "defying international standards of traffic and safety."

The core problem lies in Bayani’s perception that he is infallible; criticisms against him are simply ignored. His bullheadedness is the issue. The Kalayaan project reflects not only a first-class engineering blunder, but also bad governance. The senior transportation engineers I interviewed have been building interchanges for decades.

But first an anecdote before we talk further of Kalayaan. A World Bank mission came to town to review the infrastructure projects it was funding. Bayani asked to join the inspection. The consultant said there was no need. Bullheaded Bayani insisted, wanting to influence the review. So the mission gave in. Standing at an intersection, Bayani told the consultant what he thought should be done. On the spot, he made a sketch and handed it to the consultant, who suggested he pass it on to his designers first and make a formal technical study.

Bayani was so angered that he complained to the head of the mission. When the consultant found out about that, he confronted Bayani and told him to complain directly to him next time.

Infrastructure engineers say that the World Bank consultants today hesitate to give a go-signal to Engineer Bayani’s infrastructure projects, many of which he himself designed from cloud nine. One such Bayani design rejected by the World Bank was a dual interchange in the vicinity of SM North.

Time and again, Bayani resorts to vengeance when his ideas are turned down. In Eastwood City, he wanted to build a footbridge. When it was turned down, he closed all the U-turns to make it harder for all to move around. If you are in Eastwood and want to turn left on C-5, you have to go all the way to the Libis underpass to make a U-turn. However, Bayani was forced to open one U-turn because Local Government Secretary Ronnie Puno uses it. There are higher GMA boys than Bayani.

Now, it will be easier to understand Kalayaan. The unfortunate thing about the interchange is — it is irreversible. To undo the blunder and build a proper long-term facility, the entire P600-million (it could be as large as a billion, engineers suggest) facility has to be torn down.

Bullheaded Bayani is also Band-Aid Bayani. The Kalayaan interchange is the epitome of Band-Aid makeshift engineering.

The engineers told me that the maximum speed of traffic depends on the radius of curvature. The sharper the turn, the slower you go. The engineers showed me a table relating speed to curvature. The table gives the maximum curvature of 20 meters for urban facilities, the sharpest turn allowable, where the maximum speed is set at 30 kph. The Jurassic Kalayaan has a curvature of 10 meters, which is not allowed by international or DPWH standards, because this is not only accident-prone for a heavily used two-lane turn, it also causes more traffic.

In other words, Bayani’s P600-million caper will cause rather than prevent traffic. The many 16-wheelers passing through the C-5 Kalayaan interchange, will need two lanes to make the turn, which will also cause more traffic. In basketball, we call it "forcing through."

Bayani’s blunder was unfortunately backed up by Malacañang. DPWH Secretary Hermogenes Ebdane was supposed to make a presentation to GMA of a three-level interchange at Kalayaan. Bayani intercepted the ball and made his own presentation before Ebdane could stand up. GMA applauded Bayani’s blunder. Ebdane said there was no need to make his own presentation since the boss had made a decision.

Did the DPWH evaluate and approve Kalayaan as required by law? The engineers doubt it. Bad governance, especially from the very top, is the reason for all our woes. Knee-jerk decisions mean disastrous governance.

In that presentation, Bayani said his concept was cheaper. He did not say it was unsafe or would cause more traffic, just cheaper. That was why GMA applauded his Jurassic design.

The Kalayaan design defies all principles of cost-benefit. It simply talks about cost and forgets about benefit. In fact, the Kalayaan interchange has no benefit in terms of traffic flow and safety. Bayani says his design would save P3.6 million a year because there is no need for traffic lights, traffic aides, signage, and other peripheral traffic control factors. Bayani did not know the tenfold savings of P365 million a year for commuters who would be using less gas in a straight rather than curved elevated facility.

The engineers suggested that a straight elevation is better than a curved one, similar to the three-level Quezon Boulevard-EDSA interchange, which was the same design suggested by Ebdane for Kalayaan. The engineers suggested that a two-level facility would suffice at Kalayaan so it would be cheaper. They point out that for the same length, a straight road is by far cheaper to build than a curved one. The straight elevation option is safer, requires less gas, and yields better traffic flow.

Bayani has an attitude problem; he is not open to criticism. He sees his design as creative and is blind to its weaknesses. Bayani is a symbol today of extremely dangerous and bad governance. The saying goes, "Arrogance is dangerous. Ignorance is dangerous. But the two together is deadly."

don't be too hasty in judging our other kababayans. Some just simply want to raise the standards and expectations of the people so things will change and improve. So we don't need the term world class everytime we see superior quality in the PHils.
For example i went to a restaurant that had an absolute pigsty bathroom , I made an innocent comment about how that would never pass in another country and this one lady snapped at me that not to be maarte, I am in the PHilippines and not to expect anything more. So should we always equate the PHils to anything substandard and mediocrity. I know it has been in the past but things should change somehow , someday, right?

buti nga sa CR lang.:Ddito sa kinakainan ko ng bulalo masarap sana ang bulalo kaso hindi malinis ang lugar, hindi man lang piniturahan ang space ng maaliwalas naman sa paningin, eh yung lababo kung saan sila naghihiwa ng karne, napakadumi. nanghihinayang ako, maganda ang location, kung meron lang sanang konting katalinuhan ang may-ari, sigurado mas lalakas ang biz nya:D

^^sakto mas marameng maeengayong kumain sa kanila pati na yung mga maaarte :wink:
so hindi mo na ko tatawagin mayabang ha? :colgate:

^^sakto mas marameng maeengayong kumain sa kanila pati na yung mga maaarte :wink:
so hindi mo na ko tatawagin mayabang ha? :colgate:

ay hindi ka na mayabang, maarteng-mayabang ka na:D:lol:

Vol. XXI, No. 212
Thursday, May 29, 2008 | MANILA, PHILIPPINES
Opinion
Upshot
By Bernardo V. Lopez
Bayani’s Kalayaan fiasco

Bayani Fernando, chairman of the Metro Manila Development Authority, is the engineer-wannabe who designed the expensive Kalayaan elevated U-turn that is now being built.

Engineers I interviewed have termed it "Jurassic," "irreversible," and "defying international standards of traffic and safety."

The core problem lies in Bayani’s perception that he is infallible; criticisms against him are simply ignored. His bullheadedness is the issue. The Kalayaan project reflects not only a first-class engineering blunder, but also bad governance. The senior transportation engineers I interviewed have been building interchanges for decades.

But first an anecdote before we talk further of Kalayaan. A World Bank mission came to town to review the infrastructure projects it was funding. Bayani asked to join the inspection. The consultant said there was no need. Bullheaded Bayani insisted, wanting to influence the review. So the mission gave in. Standing at an intersection, Bayani told the consultant what he thought should be done. On the spot, he made a sketch and handed it to the consultant, who suggested he pass it on to his designers first and make a formal technical study.

Bayani was so angered that he complained to the head of the mission. When the consultant found out about that, he confronted Bayani and told him to complain directly to him next time.

Infrastructure engineers say that the World Bank consultants today hesitate to give a go-signal to Engineer Bayani’s infrastructure projects, many of which he himself designed from cloud nine. One such Bayani design rejected by the World Bank was a dual interchange in the vicinity of SM North.

Time and again, Bayani resorts to vengeance when his ideas are turned down. In Eastwood City, he wanted to build a footbridge. When it was turned down, he closed all the U-turns to make it harder for all to move around. If you are in Eastwood and want to turn left on C-5, you have to go all the way to the Libis underpass to make a U-turn. However, Bayani was forced to open one U-turn because Local Government Secretary Ronnie Puno uses it. There are higher GMA boys than Bayani.

Now, it will be easier to understand Kalayaan. The unfortunate thing about the interchange is — it is irreversible. To undo the blunder and build a proper long-term facility, the entire P600-million (it could be as large as a billion, engineers suggest) facility has to be torn down.

Bullheaded Bayani is also Band-Aid Bayani. The Kalayaan interchange is the epitome of Band-Aid makeshift engineering.

The engineers told me that the maximum speed of traffic depends on the radius of curvature. The sharper the turn, the slower you go. The engineers showed me a table relating speed to curvature. The table gives the maximum curvature of 20 meters for urban facilities, the sharpest turn allowable, where the maximum speed is set at 30 kph. The Jurassic Kalayaan has a curvature of 10 meters, which is not allowed by international or DPWH standards, because this is not only accident-prone for a heavily used two-lane turn, it also causes more traffic.

In other words, Bayani’s P600-million caper will cause rather than prevent traffic. The many 16-wheelers passing through the C-5 Kalayaan interchange, will need two lanes to make the turn, which will also cause more traffic. In basketball, we call it "forcing through."

Bayani’s blunder was unfortunately backed up by Malacañang. DPWH Secretary Hermogenes Ebdane was supposed to make a presentation to GMA of a three-level interchange at Kalayaan. Bayani intercepted the ball and made his own presentation before Ebdane could stand up. GMA applauded Bayani’s blunder. Ebdane said there was no need to make his own presentation since the boss had made a decision.

Did the DPWH evaluate and approve Kalayaan as required by law? The engineers doubt it. Bad governance, especially from the very top, is the reason for all our woes. Knee-jerk decisions mean disastrous governance.

In that presentation, Bayani said his concept was cheaper. He did not say it was unsafe or would cause more traffic, just cheaper. That was why GMA applauded his Jurassic design.

The Kalayaan design defies all principles of cost-benefit. It simply talks about cost and forgets about benefit. In fact, the Kalayaan interchange has no benefit in terms of traffic flow and safety. Bayani says his design would save P3.6 million a year because there is no need for traffic lights, traffic aides, signage, and other peripheral traffic control factors. Bayani did not know the tenfold savings of P365 million a year for commuters who would be using less gas in a straight rather than curved elevated facility.

The engineers suggested that a straight elevation is better than a curved one, similar to the three-level Quezon Boulevard-EDSA interchange, which was the same design suggested by Ebdane for Kalayaan. The engineers suggested that a two-level facility would suffice at Kalayaan so it would be cheaper. They point out that for the same length, a straight road is by far cheaper to build than a curved one. The straight elevation option is safer, requires less gas, and yields better traffic flow.

Bayani has an attitude problem; he is not open to criticism. He sees his design as creative and is blind to its weaknesses. Bayani is a symbol today of extremely dangerous and bad governance. The saying goes, "Arrogance is dangerous. Ignorance is dangerous. But the two together is deadly."

At least he gets things done.

^^ but still a blunder... :ohno:

I hated the elevated U-turn slot and I will continue to hate it as much as my mom hates the "pinkification" of Manila by BF. Either they put it underground or they expand C-5 to accomodate the traffic.

If this continues when BF (ever) is elected President, who knows how many more Metro Gwapo blunders there would be nationwide!

Marami pa ring hindi masaya sa mga ginagawa ni BF.Kulang pa rin.
I think mas maraming magandang pagbabago sa panahon BF.That was just my observation everytime i travel to Manila which is at least once a year.

That remains to be seen whether it is a blunder or not. Come July or August, the elevated U turn will be completed and let's see if it will not resolve the traffic mess at C5 - Kalayaan. It is successful in Bangkok and I've seen it personally. I will reserve my judgment/verdict.

^^ Seeing is believing right? I'll reserve my judgement as well.

Marami pa ring hindi masaya sa mga ginagawa ni BF.Kulang pa rin.
I think mas maraming magandang pagbabago sa panahon BF.That was just my observation everytime i travel to Manila which is at least once a year.

:lol::lol::lol:nakakatawa talaga ang iba, mas maganda na ngayon ang metro kesa dati:D

hindi sila natutuwa, lagi kasing kinukumpara sa Amerika, sa Japan, sa Singapore ang infra ng Pinas, eh kung kasing yaman ba tayo sa kanila, baka pati bakubakung mukha ng ibang mamayan ng Pinas pinakinis na rin:D

Kung ganon magpayaman na ren tayo . :colgate:

Kung ganon magpayaman na ren tayo . :colgate:

ssshhh, tanong lang magkano ang diamond peel dyan:D

haha! yun yung metro gwapo!

Si Bayani Fernando nangangampanya na... may pa-yakap-yakap pa...

Si Bayani Fernando nangangampanya na... may pa-yakap-yakap pa...

iboboto ko sya:D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2229/2367793629_c02dc34c22_o.jpg
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

parang nasa north korea. kamuka niya si kim jong il., tapos wala man lang smile. :lol:

Teka ano bang reason nya at bakit nya pinaglalagay ung poster nya sa EDSA?

Teka ano bang reason nya at bakit nya pinaglalagay ung poster nya sa EDSA?

What else pa po ba Kuya Nayki, e di pangangampanya po... nagpahayag na po siya ng planong pagtakbo sa 2010. I don't know kung president, vice president or anything else...

iboboto ko ren siya. at bibile ako ng mga boboto para sa kanya. and those who have problems with that. :P

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2229/2367793629_c02dc34c22_o.jpg
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

hahaha:lol:

Seriously, I will vote for him for making Marikina one of the best cities in the country in terms of orderliness and urban redevelopment.

Despite his shortcomings, I like what he has done to Metro Manila...mas hamak na organisado ang Metro keysa dati...More project please!:)

^^And MMDA's more functional now, under Fernando's helm, than it ever was. Never before his time did I see MMDA parading more equipments building more projects. At least I see where our taxes end up.

iboboto ko ren siya. at bibile ako ng mga boboto para sa kanya. and those who have problems with that. :P

por dat, may hug ka mula sa akin:D

^^sis amiga baka magselos mga lovers mo dito. :lol:

^^sis amiga baka magselos mga lovers mo dito. :lol:

pareho naman tayong lalake:D na walang malice:D
ang importante si BF sa 2010:D

tama . BF sa 2010!

naghuhurutan kayong dalwa hangang dito hahaparang nasa north korea. kamuka niya si kim jong il., tapos wala man lang smile. :lol:

tama

^^hinde noh. we are on topic we are discussing Metro guapo. Bayani Fernando. :P
at wala nang iba sa pangalan pa lang , panalo na.

yup....dapat lang na iboto si bf sa 2010....tested na na meron political will....wala ng learning curve....dahil sanay na sa cabinete...so that we may be able to leapfrog ......at maabutan natin ang mga prosperous neighbors natin.....

Fernando OKs use of tarpaulins as palay drying beds
By Edith Regalado
Monday, June 2, 2008
Metro Manila Development Authority (MMDA) chairman Bayani Fernando has agreed to a suggestion by Palawan Rep. Abraham Mitra that his controversial tarpaulins – widely considered as political ads – be used as drying beds for palay in the rural areas.

“No problem with me. They could get those tarpaulins and use them in the countryside for rice production. But they better hurry because the squatters in Metro Manila would beat them to it,” Fernando said.

Fernando pointed out that the squatters are equally interested in the tarpaulins, which bear Fernando’s image, to use in their shanties. Pedicab drivers are also interested in the tarpaulins, which they can fashion into hoods for their sidecars.

At the bottom each tarpaulin is a warning that the ad material is government property and mere possession of it would be punishable by law.

Fernando said the MMDA tarpaulins were meant to catch the attention of the public and convey the message about the necessity of changing for the better.

The tarpaulins were met with criticism as Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay and Paranaque Rep. Roilo Golez had several of them removed in the two cities.

Fernando said at least 350 of the tarpaulins have been spread all through the length of EDSA as well as in other areas in Metro Manila.

“Go ahead, they could use the tarpaulins in the countryside. But they just have to make sure that each of the country’s congressional district would have a tarpaulin each,” Fernando said, adding that there would be enough for the more than 250 congressional districts.



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okayka (Jun 02 2008 12:47:19) Reply
Bakit di ba magamit yung pork nila para makatulong sa drying ng palay at yung tarpaulin pa ang nais nitong tongressman. Sa laki ng pork ninyo bawasan naman ninyo para sa mga farmers ninyo. Hayan na ninyo si BF dahil di naman sabon o toothpaste o bitter living ang iniindorso ninya kundi para sa pagsunod sa batas at ika*****nda ng kinabukasan. gumawa din kayo ng sa inyo at makipag contest kay Bf sa pag buti ng inyong saklaw na lugar para sa gayun sabay sabay bubuti ang ating kapaligiran.

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Fernando OKs use of tarpaulins as palay drying beds
By Edith Regalado
Monday, June 2, 2008
Metro Manila Development Authority (MMDA) chairman Bayani Fernando has agreed to a suggestion by Palawan Rep. Abraham Mitra that his controversial tarpaulins – widely considered as political ads – be used as drying beds for palay in the rural areas.

“No problem with me. They could get those tarpaulins and use them in the countryside for rice production. But they better hurry because the squatters in Metro Manila would beat them to it,” Fernando said.

Fernando pointed out that the squatters are equally interested in the tarpaulins, which bear Fernando’s image, to use in their shanties. Pedicab drivers are also interested in the tarpaulins, which they can fashion into hoods for their sidecars.

At the bottom each tarpaulin is a warning that the ad material is government property and mere possession of it would be punishable by law.

Fernando said the MMDA tarpaulins were meant to catch the attention of the public and convey the message about the necessity of changing for the better.

The tarpaulins were met with criticism as Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay and Paranaque Rep. Roilo Golez had several of them removed in the two cities.

Fernando said at least 350 of the tarpaulins have been spread all through the length of EDSA as well as in other areas in Metro Manila.

“Go ahead, they could use the tarpaulins in the countryside. But they just have to make sure that each of the country’s congressional district would have a tarpaulin each,” Fernando said, adding that there would be enough for the more than 250 congressional districts.



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Bakit di ba magamit yung pork nila para makatulong sa drying ng palay at yung tarpaulin pa ang nais nitong tongressman. Sa laki ng pork ninyo bawasan naman ninyo para sa mga farmers ninyo. Hayan na ninyo si BF dahil di naman sabon o toothpaste o bitter living ang iniindorso ninya kundi para sa pagsunod sa batas at ika*****nda ng kinabukasan. gumawa din kayo ng sa inyo at makipag contest kay Bf sa pag buti ng inyong saklaw na lugar para sa gayun sabay sabay bubuti ang ating kapaligiran.

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hahaha.....kala nila maiisahan nila si bf.....anyway....yung mga under performers...inggit lang yan...kay bf.....lalo na si binay...who is short...in accomplishments....i mean.....hehehe....just compare the accomplishments of bf and binay sa mmda chairmanship.....do you still remember the garbage piles...during binay's time....?... nde ko makakalimutan yung dahil bumaho and buong metro noon dahil sa garbage crisis...e kung basura lang nde ma manage.....pano pa ang pagiging presidente...nagbabalak susmaryosep...

o siya siya....ikampanya at iboto na natin si bf kahit nde pa election.......:lol:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2229/2367793629_c02dc34c22_o.jpg
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

parang may pilay lang ha? :lol:

Yung Legacy ni Binay sa MMDA ay gawing Tambakan ng Basura ang Maynila, at Makati - pugad ng mga squatters nyang botante.

Unggoy ka talaga Binay, halat naman na pinapaboran ang mga ka-frat mong mga basag-ulo sa mga proyekto dyan sa ITCHY City.

Yung Legacy ni Binay sa MMDA ay gawing Tambakan ng Basura ang Maynila, at Makati - pugad ng mga squatters nyang botante.

Unggoy ka talaga Binay, halat naman na pinapaboran ang mga ka-frat mong mga basag-ulo sa mga proyekto dyan sa ITCHY City.

korekek ka dyan.....tingnan mo na lang ang mandaluyong side of the river and the quadalupe side.....sa mandaluyong....ooooo tall and modern buildings...sa quadalupe side....yuuuuuccckkkkk......many informal settlers....in other words....iskwater....kung wala ang ayala center....pinakabulok ata na city ang itchy city....baka mas bulok pa sa pasay.....

dapat gawa na tayo ng BF2010 movement:D

dapat gawa na tayo ng BF2010 movement:Dsuportahan ko yan. :okay:

nakakatawa naman kayo . itchy city.
at tama yung nagcomment sa baba. kung galit sila ke BF dapat isurpass nila yung mga achievements niya para lahat at buong metro manila panalo.
:lol:

suportahan ko yan. :okay:

tama, malapit na kasi. sinong puede mag lead?

nakakatawa naman kayo . itchy city. :lol:

maganda naman ang makati, huwag ka lang pumunta sa itchy places:D

kailangan natin ng Fernando girl at ikalat sa youtube.
sino kaya si XP , sis Amiga

nakakatawa naman kayo . itchy city.
at tama yung nagcomment sa baba. kung galit sila ke BF dapat isurpass nila yung mga achievements niya para lahat at buong metro manila panalo.
:lol:

Exactly. That's the only way to surpass Bayani is that if they prove their own s4it instead of talking s4it. So far, all they do is political b/sing while wasting people's taxes at the same time.

Kakabalita lang sa TV Patrol.

Isa sa mga pangunahing pinipilian para maging manok ng partido lakas sa halalan sa 2010 ay sina Bayani Fernando at Feliciano Belmonte. My gawd, sana magtandem nalang ang dalawa. I'm excited hahaha

^^ dream tandem ko ang dalawang yan., :)

Pero malamang Noli-Bayani ang mangyayari dyan. Vice lang si Bayani.

Pero malamang Noli-Bayani ang mangyayari dyan. Vice lang si Bayani.

ayoko kay noli, parang malambot, di tulad kay BF matigas:D. Napatunayan na yan, hindi nagpapadala sa mga mayores na ayaw sa kanya

^^akala ko pati si Bayani naging biktima mo eh. :lol:

ayoko kay noli, parang malambot, di tulad kay BF matigas:D. Napatunayan na yan, hindi nagpapadala sa mga mayores na ayaw sa kanya

Ayoko din kay Noli mas pipiliin ko pa si Loren kesa sa kanya hindi na baling ambisyosa. :lol: Sana nga si Bayani ang pambato ng Lakas-Kampi for president pero malabo, mas malamang si Noli then vice si Bayani.

^^akala ko pati si Bayani naging biktima mo eh. :lol:

sis seryoso tayo dito ha:D

oo nga sorry po Mr. Bayani. Hindi dapat binibiro ng ganyan ang SUSUNOD na kagalang galang presidente ng Pilipinas.
Ayoko den ke Noli.

BAYANI FERNANDO AND FELICIANO BELMONTE IS THE DREAM TEAM FOR 2010

I have doubts on the capability of Noli De Castro and Loren Legardo because these two are Lopez babies.

Baka magstrike mga PUV at private drivers kapag si Bayani maging presidente. Sa dami ba kasi ng pasway na ayasw na sinisita.

Bayani Fernando is also being considered as one of the senatoriables of the Administration. Hopefully he does NOT run for the Senate. He's better in the executive branch than the legislative branch. Magpatupad na lang siya ng batas keysa gumawa ng batas. And we all know that the Senate is really inutile.

o cge...suportahan ta ka......sa bf2010 movement.....

Only Bayani Fernando can entail discipline among the people while Belmonte is good in economics.

Pinoys need to practice discipline to progress and Bayani will install it!

Only Bayani Fernando can entail discipline among the people while Belmonte is good in economics.

Pinoys need to practice discipline to progress and Bayani will install it!

instill ata yun nde entail....anyway...bayani pa rin...tayo...sa 2010

^^ It's a good balance! BF can instill national discipline, while SB can impose fiscal discipline! Haha. :lol:

Bayani Fernando and the MMDA are also giving assistance to the different LGU's all over the country. hmmm I know he has some "palpaks" but he seems like a great candidate. I'll think about it. :D

Bayani Fernando and the MMDA are also giving assistance to the different LGU's all over the country. hmmm I know he has some "palpaks" but he seems like a great candidate. I'll think about it. :D

Kaya pala ganoon ang itsura ng Olongapo-Gapan Road sa San Fernando City, Pampanga at yung Dolores Intersection (Olongapo-Gapan Road-McArthur Highway Intersection), may concrete barriers sa gitna tapos nakaharang sa mga U-Turn slots at sa intersections ng buong lungsod... parang sa Metro Manila rin...

^^ It's a good balance! BF can instill national discipline, while SB can impose fiscal discipline! Haha. :lol:

Kaya lang kung magtatandem sila kuya, wala nga lang silang magiging "physical" discipline at "rational" discipline...

^^ Discipline in the Philippines is always irrational. :lol:

Sa dami-daming nilagay na footbridge/overpass along Commonwealth, nagagawa pa ng mga taong tumawid sa kalsada - sa ilalim pa mismo! :ohno:

Pag may tumatawid, my brother would slow down the car, roll down his window, at ituturo yung overpass (baka kasi hindi nila nakikita) - and typical for Pinoy, ngingitian lang.

Sa dami-daming nilagay na footbridge/overpass along Commonwealth, nagagawa pa ng mga taong tumawid sa kalsada - sa ilalim pa mismo! :ohno:

Pag may tumatawid, my brother would slow down the car, roll down his window, at ituturo yung overpass (baka kasi hindi nila nakikita) - and typical for Pinoy, ngingitian lang.

dapat yata meron laser ilalagay sa mga bawal tawiran:D masusunog pag tumawid:D

^^:lol: Naisip ko tuloy ang War of the Worlds.

Pwede rin maglagay ng sign "Pangit ang tumawid dito". Tapos may speaker, pag may tumawid "Hoy pangit! Pangit ka! Oo ikaw. Tumawid ka sa tamang tawiran!". Tapos speaker sa overpass "Hello, gorgeous!" :lol:

^^:lol: Naisip ko tuloy ang War of the Worlds.

Pwede rin maglagay ng sign "Pangit ang tumawid dito". Tapos may speaker, pag may tumawid "Hoy pangit! Pangit ka! Oo ikaw. Tumawid ka sa tamang tawiran!". Tapos speaker sa overpass "Hello, gorgeous!" :lol:

dati may kulungan sa kalye, kakahiya, kinukulong ng ilang oras:D

^^:lol:Naalala ko noon ang sa Sucat at Bicutan Interchange.
Yung iba pinapakanta ng Pambansang Awit sa tabi ng highway.

Dapat Talaga Ikulong ang Mga Taong Walang Disiplina!

^^:lol:Naalala ko noon ang sa Sucat at Bicutan Interchange.
Yung iba pinapakanta ng Pambansang Awit sa tabi ng highway.

isa ka ba sa nakulong? :lol:

parang hawla ng hayop nakalagay sa tabi ng kalsada:D

^^:lol:Nah!Di ko pa naexperience ang makulong:lol:
Marunong akong tumawid sa tamang tawiran.Nakikita ko ang mga to papuntang Alabang noon.

^^:lol:Nah!Di ko pa naexperience ang makulong:lol:
Marunong akong tumawid sa tamang tawiran.Nakikita ko ang mga to papuntang Alabang noon.

akala ko lang jaywalker ka kasi:D