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cheychai
October 6th, 2005, 03:11 PM
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Have u ever read articles in journals?

atom
October 6th, 2005, 03:18 PM
Now I can see this chart but, don't understand :)

Xephiroth
October 6th, 2005, 05:41 PM
I can see it clearly,but what does it mean ?

Mosaic
October 6th, 2005, 07:25 PM
I can see it quite clear and what are you trying to tell us? How is it important?. or you just wanna share some info?

BODYholic
October 6th, 2005, 08:52 PM
Scintific Joutnals!? ... Quest que cest?
The reference is questionable! :)

Zoowatch
October 6th, 2005, 11:05 PM
the more scientific journals published by nationals of a country, the more developed the research sector of that country...

so, fewer papers published = too little research & development = too few inventions from that country

R&D = value add product = knowledge-base economy (KBE) = the inexhaustible wealth of the future

in Thailand, we have little or no "R&D" culture at all... even academic staffs (most of them) at universities don't engage in some sort of research... meanwhile, our companies only "copy" or "import technologies"... little fund is available / little money is spent on research (because most of us hold on to the traditional view that R&D is a waste of money)

Zoowatch
October 6th, 2005, 11:12 PM
but in the scientific world, the quality of papers published is way more important than the quantity of the papers published

it is better to have 2 papers published in a reputable journal such as "Cell" or "Nature" than to have 20 published in a less known journal...

this is what we call impact factor

also, the quality of paper is determined by other factors such as the number of citations, the publication 'delay' etc...

so looking at the table above... quantity doesn't always mean quantity

but on the other hand, countries like Japan have both the quality and quantity...

unfortunately, our country (on the contrary) cannot be said so...

When is the last time i have read an original paper published by a Thai researcher? honestly, i don't know... maybe in some other fields...

Zoowatch
October 6th, 2005, 11:25 PM
and to reflect our negligence on publishing reaerch work and on R&D as a whole

try making a survey on the street of Bangkok... and you will be shocked by how little people know about the significance of publishing research works... or how R&D will generate income in the first place...

one comforting fact is that... we are slowly beginning to realise this and picking up on research...

a lot of people complain about the lack of fundings here...
but the real underlying problem in Thailand is the lack of interest and the lack of human resources with research experience...

india, china or israel doesn't have a lot of research fundings to go around...
but because they have the talents, the interest, the full govt support and a conducive environment, their R&D sector is more developed than ours per capita...

i am hoping that thailand will catch up and commits itself into ground-breaking areas such as Biotechnology, Nanotechnology or Pharmacology

PADTHAI
October 7th, 2005, 02:41 AM
I agree but have no confidence at all that Thailand will catch up.

We have a lovely country with lovely people but our role in the global economy will to be a "service centre" like a 5-star hotel/resort. There is absolutely no real interest in education/research here: most all universities are about "hardware" to show off (like rooms full of computers that are used to play games or farang staff that have no real role in teaching proper English) rather than "software" (like researchers or thinkers). When people lose their fear of criticism (which is essential for research and academia) and of all things non-sanuk (why study all day when you can shop for things invented elsewhere?) things may change. But for now no serious academic would consider Thailand as a serious higher education R&D location.

Luckily there will always be a need for people who do invent and produce things to go somewhere to relax, shop and be pampered. Thailand can fill that niche nicely!!

Odonto
October 7th, 2005, 01:05 PM
and to reflect our negligence on publishing reaerch work and on R&D as a whole

try making a survey on the street of Bangkok... and you will be shocked by how little people know about the significance of publishing research works... or how R&D will generate income in the first place...

one comforting fact is that... we are slowly beginning to realise this and picking up on research...

a lot of people complain about the lack of fundings here...
but the real underlying problem in Thailand is the lack of interest and the lack of human resources with research experience...

india, china or israel doesn't have a lot of research fundings to go around...
but because they have the talents, the interest, the full govt support and a conducive environment, their R&D sector is more developed than ours per capita...

i am hoping that thailand will catch up and commits itself into ground-breaking areas such as Biotechnology, Nanotechnology or Pharmacology




I do think the real problem is still the lack of funding. I was a dentist working in an academic area in Thailand for a short while in 2001-2003. Not just the lack of research funding from R&D but also we were much less paid than dentists working in the services sector (national health services scheme). Much less, i m afraid, so we have no choice but to waste our times pulling / drilling teeth to make ends meet rather than doing some useful research!!. So in those good 3 years , I had produced only 3 clinical papers with only one grant supported by the University R&D.

In Hong Kong where academic dentists are not allowed to work part/time in the service sector, they were paid 50 times (yes I mean it, 50 times!!)more than Thai counterparts just for them to do research and teach.

Like you said, lack of interest and lack of human resources are the critical problem. I used to work in Khon Kaen university in NE Thailand, which they claimed to be the biggest university in the counrty in term of number of school/faculties. There were only 20 professors at that time!! and 13 of them belong to the Medical/Dental school alone focusing on the clinical research. The reason was the high competitive atmosphere/conductive environment in the medical school. What about those basic sciences people??? Especially now you can be a professor of Medicine or Dentistry in Thailand if you are a sole author in only one paper published in one of the higest impact factor journals i.e. New England Journal of Medicine or the Lancet.