Dont you just hate it in this country.

Pointless lamposts all the time..

eg all this near picadilly gardens
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v459/ecrayon/pui.jpg

why dont they join them all up or something.
Its not just that but everywhere else, like your walking down the street and theres a lampost right in the middle of the pavement, and then another to the side.

They really need to make it more friendly for padestrians. In places like newyork the pavements are clear for the sake of the people walking on them. Sometimes the goverment are a bit too convinient and can make the place look a mess.

I agree with you totally on this one 9462. It´s somewthing I often think about on my way around town. The appearance and number of those bloody lampostsd really ruin the look and feel of many streets. But I think there must be some sort of regulation about how they appear and are where they´re palced, ruling out more creative solutions?

in some countrys theyll have one lampost with like 4 sets of traffis light on them, rather than having 4 poles. It would also save money if they did it that way.

most of the time when crossing the road, id rather not use a confusing padestrian crossing and use the road. And what ever happened to white lines crossing the road, instead of annoying metal things, and red paint, plus them bumpy bits that are supposed to be better for grip, but arent exactly a plus point for disabled people.

I think you've got a good point 9462. The wealth of posts, poles, and signs can really make a place look scrappy. There was a roundabout near me with a central planted area. It was beautiful, and the traffic flowed. Now it's an ugly urban mess with railings and traffic lights everywhere along with signs and poles and fumes from snarled up traffic. I swear somebody got a backhander for fucking it all up.

HA! I was thinking of doing a panoramic of that exact mess at the top of Aytoun Street to show how fucking stupid it looks. There really most be about a dozen poles with various crap on them at that one junction.

The whole Piccadilly area is a mess of street litter. It's a shitter crossing from the top of Portland Street into the gardens. Last week I narrowly missed a bus and then a cyclist at this junction. (That might have been my fault though, a little bit!) I know this is minor but if you cross from just outside Edwards in Westminster House to the bus station there is an island with railings positioned so that you cannot walk straight across, you have to change direction and walk around them - the point? Fucking isn't one. It's a bloody pain during the rush hour when you've got dozens of people wanting to cross at once.

Also, construction works are causing a headache. The other end of Aytoun Street is shit to cross thanks to Piccadilly Place, High Street is a deathtrap thanks to the arndale redevelopment taking up the pavement on one side. People end up walking down the tram lines or in the road, a guy got hit by a tram here today.

You guys don't know you're born. Most N.American are riddled with old wooden telephone/electric poles running (sometimes on both sides) down their main streets. Oh there's the odd 'parkway' style street here and there, but they never did get round to distributing phone/electric wires and cables underground to anywhere near the extent of the British and European cities and towns. I'm not talking about the primary national grids here, the network of pylons scattered throughout the countryside either, I'm talking about urban distribution. In fact there are so many streets with these ugly ancient monstosities that they have become 'invisible' to the native population, so much that when they are pointed out to them it usually evokes gasps of "shit, you're right man, I never really noticed 'em before you mentioned it, what a pile of ugly crap".
They could have buried these cables long ago when it would have been much cheaper, but I'm afraid the N.American aversion to paying a little more tax meant that no utility company or municipality would bite the bullet.
Now their past foolishness has proved to be a false economy as the overhead plant is in terminal decay and in constant need of 'band-aid maintenance'.
Not only is it ugly but it's almost third world , and ironically in a continent that endures the two extremes in temperature, along with the freak weather, tornadoes in summer, hurricanes in autumn and in the hugely populated Great Lakes Basin, some of the heaviest snow falls and ice storms in the winter. If you've ever seen what an ice storm or freezing rain does to overhead wires and cables you'll know where I'm coming from.
So stop cribbing about a few godamned lamp posts...... ;)

What about the empty coke cans, beer bottles, cartons, paper, wrappings and the rest of the litter thrown about while were ion the litter subject?
Has it improved?

http://www.hertfordshire.freeserve.co.uk/TrafficLights/sotp.jpg

What about the empty coke cans, beer bottles, cartons, paper, wrappings and the rest of the litter thrown about while were ion the litter subject?
Has it improved?

Manchester as got the litter problem mostly sorted out now, ive noticed a huge difference in how clean places look,

Manchester as got the litter problem mostly sorted out now, ive noticed a huge difference in how clean places look,

In the city centre I would agree but many of the poorer residential areas are still pretty dirty.

I know what your saying Jonesy, but there a far more council worker's lately litter picking . I live in one of the so called poorer area's and the sight of a road sweeper is now more frequent :)
Unfortunatly there are still a lot of mindless people who dont give a damn about litter and throw there crap on the floor, but that is the case in most poor area's around the country .

I know what your saying Jonesy, but there a far more council worker's lately litter picking . I live in one of the so called poorer area's and the sight of a road sweeper is now more frequent :)
Unfortunatly there are still a lot of mindless people who dont give a damn about litter and throw there crap on the floor, but that is the case in most poor area's around the country .

Yeah, I wasn't saying that Manchester is any worse than anywhere else. I work in Birmingham and some of the suburbs there are terrible for litter and I was in Tottenham last weekend and that was really bad, kebab cartons, fag packets, shopping bags and drink bottles and cans everywhere, in the gutters, on the pavements, in the hedges at the bottom of gardens, disgusting :ohno:

In certain places, Picc Gardens being an example, you can't really get away with not having lamposts, however, what I don´t understand is why on normal streets they don't attach the street lamps to the buildings more.

In certain places, Picc Gardens being an example, you can't really get away with not having lamposts, however, what I don´t understand is why on normal streets they don't attach the street lamps to the buildings more.
I've noticed they do this more in continental Europe...it makes more sense than having posts everywhere but I would imagine there would be problems of gaining permission off the buildings owners unless there was some incentive from the council/electricity company or whoever is in charge of the lighting such as charging rental to them.I do think the newer style street lighting is an improvment with the thinner columns and smaller 'cobra' style halogen lamp units instead of those big ugly oblong sodium lamps.