In the United States, the Jews and Chinese are considered counterparts.

The Chinese being the 'Jews of Asia' and the Jews considered as the 'Chinese of the West.'

They do share many similarities as well as huge differences.

Similarities;

They both have a huge diaspora stemming from wars and oppression.

They are both historically literature-based societies with the Torah and written word being of huge significance to the Jews, and Confucianism and calligraphy being the highest of all arts in China.

They both have strong family values, practice frugality, moderation.

Both are over-represented economically and scholastically in their adopted nations. Jews in the US, Europe. Chinese in SEA Asia, and US.

They both experience riots and pogroms against them from time to time in their adopted nations.


Differences;

There are like 1,0000000000000x more Chinese than Jews.

Until recently, Jews did not have a homeland or nation unlike China.


So what do Jews and Israelis feel about Chinese people if they even do at all?

Differences
There are like 1,0000000000000x more Chinese than Jews.
Until recently, Jews did not have a homeland or nation unlike China.

yeah, small population difference :lol:
just 1 correction: we have always had a homeland and a nation, only
we were expelled 4 times from it.

I can say from what I know we are fascinated with everything chinese, especially traditional medicine lately.
I know both respect each others cultural heritage, and there are more similarities like In ww2 chinese were murdered on a huge scale under japanese rule just like jews in europe, and also they saved many jews in ww2.
And if you think of it, both nations even have had to build large defensive walls to keep out killers..

What I dont like is what china did in tibet and its threats on taiwan.
Also china is seen as a threat on the U.S and is violating human rights
of free speech and religion.

but as for chinese people I think they are one of my favorites, usually very impressive and sophisticated people.

One of my friend lived in China for 7 years...from what I herd and saw they are very nice people.
As for diplomacy between the two countries, you should know that just recently China added Israel to their recommended places to visit.

The Chinese always talks bad about jews in cantonese or mandorin...

were inferior to them....
Everythign that they do is like they invented it...


but hey :) im all up for China-Israel trade pacts....
who wants some Missiles? :guns1:

Jews in China - a small bibliography :)


• Abraham, Wendy Robin, the Role of Confucian and Jewish Educational Values in the Assimilation of the Chinese Jews of Kaifeng, Supplemented by Western Accounts, 1605-1985, Ph.D. dissertation, Columbia University, Teachers Coll., 1989
• Baum, Vicki, Shanghai '37, Oxford University Press, Hong Kong, 1986
• Buck, Pearl S., Peony, 1948
• Finn, James, The Jews in China: Their Synagogue, Their Scriptures, Their History, Ch'eng Wen Publishing Co., Taipei, 1971
• Goldstein, Jonathan, ed., The Jews of China, vol. 1: Historical and Comparative • Perspectives, (An East Gate Book.) M.E. Sharpe, Armonk N.Y., 1999
• Goldstein, Jonathan, ed., The Jews of China, vol. 2: a Sourcebook and Research • Guide M.E. Sharpe, Armonk N.Y., 2000
• Heppner, Ernest G., Shanghai Refuge: A Memoir of the World War II Jewish Ghetto, University of Nebraska Press, Lincoln, 1993
• Kranzler, David, Japanese, Nazis, and Jews: The Jewish Refugee Community of
Shanghai, 1938-1945, Yeshiva University Press, New York, 1976
• Kublin, Hyman, ed., Studies of the Chinese Jews: Selections from Journals East and West. Paragon Book Reprint Corp., NY, 1971 (Kramer, L., The K`aifeng Jews: a disappearing community; Margoliouth, D. S., An early Judaeo-Persian document from Khotan in the Stein collection, with other early Persian documents; Loewenthal, R., The nomenclature of Jews in China; Fang, C., Notes on the Chinese Jews of Kaifeng; Pelliot, P., Le Juif Ngai, informateur du P. Mathieu Ricci; Leslie, D., The K`aifeng Jew Chao Ying-ch`eng and his family; Neubauer, A., Jews in China; Laufer, B., A Chinese-Hebrew manuscript: a new source for the history of the Chinese Jews; Sokobin, S., The Simson-Hirsch letter to the Chinese Jews; Leslie, D., The Kaifeng Jewish community: a summary; Appendices (p. 201-218): Some major reviews of White's The Chinese Jews; Father Ricci's meeting with a Chinese Jew; Chang Hsiang-wen's visit to K`aifeng in 1910).
• Kublin, Hyman, ed., Jews in Old China: Some Western Views, Paragon Book
Reprint Corp., NY, 1971 (Finn, J., The Jews in China: their synagogue, their Scriptures, their history; Adler, M., Chinese Jews; a lecture; Perlmann, S. M., The history of the Jews in China; Ezra, E. I., & Sopher, A., Chinese Jews).
• Leitner, Yecheskel, Operation Torah Rescue: The Escape of the Mirrer Yeshiva from War-torn Poland to Shanghai, China, Feldheim, Jerusalem; New York, 1987
• Leventhal, Dennis A., Sino-Judaic Studies: Whence and Whither: An Essay and Bibliography, Jewish Historical Society of Hong Kong, Hong Kong, 1985
• Leslie, Donald Daniel, The Survival of the Chinese Jews: The Jewish Community of Kaifeng, Brill, Leiden, 1972
• Leslie, Donald Daniel, Jews and Judaism in Traditional China : A Comprehensive Bibliography, Monumenta Serica Institute, Sankt Augustin, 1998
• Liberman, Yaacov (Yana), My China: Jewish life in the Orient, 1900-1950, Berkeley: Judah L. Magnes Museum; Gefen Pub. House Ltd., Jerusalem, 1998
• Malek, Roman, ed., From Kaifeng -- to Shanghai: Jews in China, Nettetal, Steyler Verlag, Germany, 2000.
• Maynard, Isabelle, China Dreams: Growing up Jewish in Tientsin, University of Iowa Press, Iowa City, 1996
• Meyer, Maisie J., From the Rivers of Babylon to the Whangpoo: A Century of Sephardi Jewish Life in Shanghai, University Press of America, Lanham, Md., 2003
• Oppenheimer, Aharon, ed., Sino-Judaica: Jews and Chinese in Historical Dialogue. An international colloquium, Nanjing, 11-19 October, 1996, Tel Aviv University, Tel Aviv, 1999
• Guang, Pan, ed., Youtai ren zai Shanghai / The Jews in Shanghai, Shanghai Pictorial Publishing House, Shanghai, 1995
• Pollak, Michael, Mandarins, Jews and Missionaries: The Jewish Experience in the Chinese Empire, Weatherhill, New York, 1998
• Pollak, Michael, The Jews of Dynastic China: A Critical Bibliography, Hebrew Union College Press, Cincinnati, 1993
• Pollak, Michael, The Torah Scrolls of the Chinese Jews: The History, Significance and Present Whereabouts of the Sifrei Torah of the Defunct Jewish Community of Kaifeng, Bridwell Library, Southern Methodist University, Dallas, 1975
• Ristaino, Marcia Reynders, Port of Last Resort: Diaspora Communities of Shanghai, Stanford University Press, Stanford, 2001
• Ross, James R., Escape to Shanghai: A Jewish Community in China , Free Press, NY, 1994
• Roth, Cecil, ed., The Haggadah of the Chinese Jews: First Printed Edition from a Manuscript of the Seventeenth-Eighteenth Century C.E. Originating in the Jewish Colony of K'ai-feng fu, The Orphan Hospital Ward of Israel, NY, 1967
• Rubin, Evelyn Pike, Ghetto Shanghai, Shengold, New York, 1993
• Shapiro, Sidney, Jews in Old China: Studies by Chinese Scholars, Hippocrene Books, NY, 2001
• Shulman, Frank Joseph, ed., Directory of Individuals Interested in the Jews and the Jewish Communities of East, Southeast and South Asia, Sino-Judaic Institute, 1993
• Sui-Jeung, Chan, Jews in Kaifeng: Reflections on Sino-Judaic History, Hong Kong Jewish Chronicle, Hong Kong, 1986
• Tokayer, Marvin & Swartz, Mary, The Fugu Plan: The Untold Story of the Japanese and the Jews During World War II, Paddington Press, NY, 1979
• White, Bishop William Charles, Chinese Jews: A Compilation of Matters Relating to the Jews of K`ai-f?ng fu, Paragon Book Reprint Co., NY, 1966
• Xin, Xu, & Friend, Beverly, Legends of the Chinese Jews of Kaifeng, KTAV Publishing, Hoboken NJ, 1995
• Xin, Xu, The Jews of Kaifeng, China: History, Culture, and Religion, KTAV Publishing, Jersey City, 2003
• Xun, Zhou, Chinese Perceptions of the 'Jews' and Judaism: A History of the
• Youtai, Curzon, 2001
• Yehezkel-Shaked, Ezra Jews, opium and the kimono : the story of the jews in the Far-East, Rubin Mass, Jerusalem 2003

these sound particularly interesting, wish I could find them.

Shapiro, Sidney, Jews in Old China: Studies by Chinese Scholars, Hippocrene Books, NY, 2001

Xun, Zhou, Chinese Perceptions of the 'Jews' and Judaism: A History of the
Youtai, Curzon, 2001

Where do you get these? stimazki?!

maybe find someone who's selling on ebay, i dunno..
probably some are in large libraries, try university..

just 1 correction: we have always had a homeland and a nation, only
we were expelled 4 times from it.gotcha :)


I can say from what I know we are fascinated with everything chinese, especially traditional medicine lately.
I know both respect each others cultural heritage, and there are more similarities like In ww2 chinese were murdered on a huge scale under japanese rule just like jews in europe, and also they saved many jews in ww2.
And if you think of it, both nations even have had to build large defensive walls to keep out killers..

What I dont like is what china did in tibet and its threats on taiwan.
Also china is seen as a threat on the U.S and is violating human rights
of free speech and religion.

but as for chinese people I think they are one of my favorites, usually very impressive and sophisticated people.

Yes, I heard that during WW2 when European nations were not allowing Jews to seek refuge, China allowed anyone in if they could make it.

I also know that the old community of Jews in Kaifeng from migrations interestingly enough had Chinese surnames, but the meanings of the the most common surnames are popular Jewish last names.

Jin= gold
Yin=silver
Shi=stone

Jewish in Chinese is Youtai, which means something like 'the great undecided' which probably alludes to the waiting for the savior.

The Chinese always talks bad about jews in cantonese or mandorin...

were inferior to them....
Everythign that they do is like they invented it...


but hey :) im all up for China-Israel trade pacts....
who wants some Missiles? :guns1:

I dunno about them, but when my dad comments about Jews, he says they are very smart and are more sucessful than the Chinese. That's about it.

Also, Chinese people talk bad about everybody. :lol:

^^Are you of chinese origin loureed?
Also, I think very positively of the Chinese people. However, I feel quite negatively about china because of the issues source mentioned. I am aware about them being “the Jews of the east” and I heard that they (who at list know about Jews) tend to speak highly about us and find similarities.

I have no particular feelings about "nationalities", in general, because people vary, and I don't know enough about chinese culture to comment, but I have rather strong, negative feelings about the PRC.

Yes I am. My avatar is not me :D

But it is good and interesting to know that the commonality that Chinese people think the two groups have is not one-sided.

i have to say I have a great deal of respect for the chinese people, they hae a rich and long history and a great culture,

as for china i think that the chinese people should work to liberalize and democratize their country, if they can achieve democracy it would serve as a symbol for progress and peace in the world,

thanks for the compliments everyone

(not that I am a representative of Chinese culture or something) :cheers:

Jews and Chinese people are super cool. :yes:

:D
Jews and Chinese people are super cool. :okay:

:)

http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000019060&fid=942
First China Shipping vessel docks in Ashdod

Ashdod will be one of the ports of call on the AMAX transoceanic route.

Globes’ correspondent 9 Oct 05 14:04

The first China Shipping Group ship docked at the Ashdod Port on Thursday. Each week, a China Shipping vessel will dock at Ashdod, one of the ports of call on the AMAX transoceanic route.

Ashdod Port chairperson Iris Stark said cooperation with China Shipping would make the Ashdod Port part of a route between the Far East and the US, and that the port would serve the eastern basin of the Mediterranean Sea.

Published by Globes [online], Israel business news - www.globes.co.il - on October 9, 2005