Condo units with a view
Posted 06:20am (Mla time) Mar 12, 2005
By Dianne M. Villafuerte
Inquirer News Service

ONE of the come-ons of apartments, or what is more commonly known to us as condominiums, is the view. Being greeted by a nice view upon waking up each morning and before retiring at night gives us a feeling of well-being and inspiration, creates a sense of peace among neighbors and generates beneficial chi (energy) within the apartment itself.

Feng shui masters and consultants also believe that an expansive view provides the apartment some "space to breathe."

In feng shui theory, a poor view not only prevents sufficient sunlight but also restrains auspicious chi which in turn encourages anxiousness and depression.

Zaihong Shen, feng shui practitioner and writer, gives us several tips on how to tell if that apartment or condominium we are planning to move into has a "bad view.

Too much of good thing

Our elders often tell us that even too much of a good thing is bad-and this is often proven true, even in feng shui. A window that is too expansive and large, can be likened to a front door that is radically large for your home.

This window may be giving you a good, uninterrupted view of the horizon, but it is also letting your apartment's beneficial energy escape from your home. The solution: place a small mirror on the inside of the window to reflect the energy back into your apartment.

Not always good luck

Where it is believed to be good luck to have your home looking out onto a church, temple or anther religious building in many western cultures, it is the other way around in China. Having a church or a temple in view from your apartment engulfs your home with spiritual chi, which in turn constrains other auspicious energy needed for health, luck, romance, children and wealth.

For feng shui practitioners, hanging sheer curtains on the windows overlooking a religious building will prevent the spiritual energy from drowning your apartment while still allowing sunlight into the room.

Several of our condominiums nowadays are in clusters or in close distance to each other. Add to that the office or commercial buildings built nearby.

Counter negative influence

It is most likely that a building or two is blocking natural light and fresh air from our own apartment which in effect hinders the circulation of healthy chi. To counter the negative influence of an opposing and blocking building, sheer curtains should be installed to still allow light to enter the apartment.

Shen also encourages condominium dwellers to have walls and furniture in light, warm colors to create an illusion of a sunlit room and to promote the entry of beneficial chi.

E-mail your comments at fengshui.inquirer@gmail.com.

Thanks for posting this article, Highlander. Feng shui is also becoming huge in the US.

You're welcome! I hope we can get more of these useful tips.

If anybody knows of any Feng Shui expert in Manila, please post their name and contact number/address here. I would like to have my condo units looked at.

By Dianne M. Villafuerte
Inquirer News Service

"Psychiatry's chief contribution to philosophy is the discovery that the toilet is the seat of the soul."--Alexander Chase, (1924-1975) US writer

BUT seat of the soul or not, toilets -- and bathrooms -- are considered by practitioners a feng shui liability. According to Zaihong Shen, author of "Feng Shui, Harmonizing Your Inner and Outer Space," the bathroom contains the most yin energy. This is because the bathroom or toilet has the most number of water sources-the toilet bowl, sink and shower or bathtub. Tile and porcelain, the materials most commonly used in building bathrooms and toilets, likewise give off yin energy.

Maintaining balance

Things or objects that inspire yang energy such as candles, throw rugs and plush towels should be added to the bathroom or toilet. Not only will these give your bathrooms an esthetic feel, but more important, these will maintain balance in the bathroom and toilet.

Merlina Merton, in her book "Feng Shui for Better Living," also suggests placing live plants in the bathroom and making sure that the room is kept clean and dry to play down the yin energy. Homeowners may also place a small dish of salt under the toilet bowl, but make sure that this is flushed away and replaced every week.

Many of us do not know this but each flush of that toilet bowl makes chi go down the drain-literally. This is not to say that we should save flushing and wait until that bowl brims with all those, er, nauseous objects! (Eww!) Feng shui experts advise to always put the toilet lid down before flushing and also every time the toilet is not in use. It is also more preferable to keep the toilet and bathroom door shut.

Unlucky spots

Inauspicious locations for bathrooms and toilets are near the house's front door, the kitchen area and the center of the home. Since toilets and bathrooms host the water element, it is most ideal if these are not situated in the area of the kitchen so to avoid probability of clashing with the fire element. A bathroom or toilet located on the second floor directly above the kitchen is also unfavorable because, according to Stephanie Roberts, author of "Fast Feng Shui," this will also extinguish the fire energy coming from the kitchen.

A toilet or bathroom should not be next to, opposite or above the front door because it will swallow up the entering chi before it can even circulate and flood the home's main entrance with negative energy.

Merton, however, has solutions for bathrooms which open directly to the kitchen or cooking area. One may place a live plant inside the bathroom or toilet or outside the door. Again, always keep the door to the toilet or bathroom closed. For toilets near the main door of the house, the occupants should place a screen between the front door and the toilet door, affix an automatic closer on the toilet door to keep it shut at all times.

For bathrooms or toilets built in the center of the house, homeowners may paint the walls red, decorate the corners of the bathroom with a large crystal, a stone or any object of ceramic material to balance the energy. Installing a full-length mirror on the outside of the door is also advisable for bathrooms and toilets with unfavorable locations in the house.

Unlucky spot or not, this writer thinks that what makes a favorable bathroom or toilet is the state that it is in-clean, hygienic, unstained, immaculate. A toilet may be in the least inauspicious area but if it is neglected and filthy, then the same negative energy will circulate around it and eventually, into the home. As in other rooms of the house, provide your toilets and bathrooms a pleasing and refreshing atmosphere.

dapat mas higher ang elevation ng ground floor kesa kalsada.
dapat ang lot area ay hindi dati sementeryo or killing field.
dapat walang cliff sa likod.
ang ceiling dapat walang kakaibang beams esp sharp objects.
ang altar di dapat sa ilalim ng hagdan.
ang pinto ay di dapat nakatapat sa ibang pinto o bintana.

Posted 02:56am (Mla time) April 16, 2005
By Dianne M. Villafuerte
Inquirer News Service

THE FIRST thing that usually strikes us upon entering an office for the first time is its layout. Normally, desks and workstations are arranged in such a way to maximize the office's space, especially if there is no choice but to squeeze an entire department of nearly 50 people into one floor.

Zaihong Shen, feng shui practitioner and writer, gives us some insights on positive and unlucky office layouts.

A desk that is positioned in such a way that the person occupying that desk has his or her back against the wall is considered favorable. The desk is said to benefit from high exposure to the positive chi (energy) that circulates inside the room. At the same time, the wall serves as protection for the person using the desk.

Feng shui theory regards natural sunlight as bringers of good and helpful chi and because windows let in natural light, it is considered ideal to place a desk facing a window.

Plants
Shen also encourages placing a plant in the southeast corner of one's office. In feng shui theory, plants symbolize growth while the southeast represents wealth so a plant in the southeast portion of your room may help encourage financial growth.

One should of course make sure that the plant is kept healthy and suitable to the office's environment.

Exposed ceiling beams
Shen advises against placing a desk under an exposed ceiling beam. Exposed ceiling beams represent oppressive energy which may inhibit a person and make him or her less productive.

Beams are also believed by feng shui practitioners as obstacles to wealth. This can, however, be remedied by hanging a windchime from the beam in order to draw positive energy.

Desk arrangement
Feng shui consultants discourage arranging desks in such a way that the occupants of these desks have their backs against a window or a mirror.

This is considered unfavorable because it intimidates the persons' feelings of security and disturbs their energies.

Causing pressure
Having a light hanging directly over the head is believed to cause pressure on the person's head and shoulders. (Think of that common action movie scene where the bad guys are endlessly tormenting the good guy in a cold and grey bodega [storeroom], our hero sitting on a stool under a solitary light bulb swaying menacingly over the protagonist's head.)

Shen suggests putting a lamp at least two feet in front of you, on the side of your nondominant hand.

A desk in a conference room or other communal area is also considered inauspicious. A busy and noisy space definitely makes it hard for the employee occupying that desk to concentrate on his or her work.

If there is no other area where the employee can be relocated, the employer should at least be considerate enough to place a screen or a cubicle around the desk to give the poor guy a sense of privacy.

Email comments at fengshui.inquirer@gmail.com .

Supposedly, Manila has one of the largest Chinatowns in the world. I'm suprised we don't have a thread about it already.

Pictures, News, Events, U/C's?

Well, there's Chinatown in Binondo and I guess this is the "official" Chinatown. But I think it's actually rather small. There's also the so-called "dragon" areas of Metro Manila where the bulk of the Tsinoy population lives (so called dragon because on a map, the whole connected area looks like a dragon-- but nobody's shown this to me yet). And this includes parts of Quezon City (along the Banawe area) and San Juan (Greenhills area) and the traditionally Chinese Binondo.

looks like nobody is too interested with any China Town activities. Is this not considered as a historical landmark in Manila area?

they're not only in Manila.. sa Laguna.. ang dami ring chinese.. in our place sa Sta. Cruz.. halos lahat nang stall owners sa palengke.. mga chinese...

Can someone confirm this dragon thing that I'm talking about? Or am I going crazy that I heard people talk about it?

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Chinese-Filipino Friendship Arch

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Chinese Gardens in Rizal Park

<img src=http://www.aec.msu.edu/agecon/sa/philippines/images/chinatown.jpg> another view of the Arch

I juss thought it wud be cool to post deez pix

Thanks for sharing them dizflip! :okay:

Last Summer, I visited Binondo and decided not to go back since traffic is really congested in that area. I just don't know why.

I think Cebu City is the biggest China Town as the whole City looks like China town...LoL

Nice pics. I went to school near Binondo and the impression I've always had of Binondo (and Ongpin) is that it's really crowded. Whenever we went there, I couldn't wait to go home or be somewhere else less crowded. :lol:

Nice shots @dizflip. Cool and colorful.

Yes, nice pics:) Can someone post pics of Cebu's Chinatown, then...?

yup and some parts of china town binondo is really dirty and stinky

Yes, nice pics:) Can someone post pics of Cebu's Chinatown, then...?

what he means is that cebu as a whole is a chinatown due to the very large chinese population there. and with many japanese and korean tourists, you'd think cebu is somewhere in east asia hehe

Yes, nice pics:) Can someone post pics of Cebu's Chinatown, then...?

We don't have a specific one. Most of the city just has cebuano AND Chinese signs on buisnisses and such.

^^Oh. i misunderstood then.

Chinatown, just went there yesterday at grabe super traffic dahil sa 168 mall lol. One thing that I hate about it is horse poo everywhere. Then, the mainland Chinese (and some tsinoys native to Binondo) people don't know a thing about Hygene.

I remember we had this familiy association gathering thingy a few years back in some dirty Chinese restaurant. This old guy went to walk next to me to smoke and spit on the floor. At that time, I felt like I want to vomit because I was eating. Even in malls, I see people do that. Another thing, they do smell, especially their breath and their teeth are rotting away lol....yeah the downsides of being tsinoy....

Not all tsinoys are like that. The rich ones who grew-up in the Philippines, especially the conyotic chinese guys that you'll see everywhere in Greenbelt, Podium, and Power Plant (and also those chinese guys studying in Ateneo, DLSU, CSB, etc.) are actually really nice. And mind you, they look so good, being gym rats and all. And the milky skin, those piercing eyes, the above average height, whew!!!, what more can you ask for.

Remember the starstruck ultimate survivor Mike Tan? The models Ton Lao and Bryan Tan? You wouldn't say they don't know a thing about hygiene, won't you? There's even more Chinese hotties here than I can think of.

Not all tsinoys are like that. The rich ones who grew-up in the Philippines, especially the conyotic chinese guys that you'll see everywhere in Greenbelt, Podium, and Power Plant (and also those chinese guys studying in Ateneo, DLSU, CSB, etc.) are actually really nice. And mind you, they look so good, being gym rats and all. And the milky skin, those piercing eyes, the above average height, whew!!!, what more can you ask for.

Remember the starstruck ultimate survivor Mike Tan? The models Ton Lao and Bryan Tan? You wouldn't say they don't know a thing about hygiene, won't you? There's even more Chinese hotties here than I can think of.

yeah, I know what you're trying to explain. I'm from one of those areas you mentioned so I've met quite a lot of good looking more westernized tsinoys. I'm talking about those mostly living in Chinatown since the weird things happen there lol :)...

my cousin went to mainland China and he said the some vendors there sell meat on the concrete on the sidestreet, nothing underneath . Next to like an open drain.

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I GOT THIS ONE OFF THE INTERNET
is da daoist temple in CEBU. part of chinatown???

my cousin went to mainland China and he said the some vendors there sell meat on the concrete on the sidestreet, nothing underneath . Next to like an open drain.

I heard thats how SARS was created.

Lots of Chinese ppl came to the Cebu area from China to escape the communist revolution, and then from Hong Kong to escape the Chinese handover.

^wow, i know gokongwei but when they hand over it to china, most of their population pretty much stayed there. are you just joking, or pulling those genitalia jokes again.

Nice pics. I went to school near Binondo and the impression I've always had of Binondo (and Ongpin) is that it's really crowded. Whenever we went there, I couldn't wait to go home or be somewhere else less crowded. :lol:

Chinatown, just went there yesterday at grabe super traffic dahil sa 168 mall lol. One thing that I hate about it is horse poo everywhere. Then, the mainland Chinese (and some tsinoys native to Binondo) people don't know a thing about Hygene.

I remember we had this familiy association gathering thingy a few years back in some dirty Chinese restaurant. This old guy went to walk next to me to smoke and spit on the floor. At that time, I felt like I want to vomit because I was eating. Even in malls, I see people do that. Another thing, they do smell, especially their breath and their teeth are rotting away lol....yeah the downsides of being tsinoy....

The two of you modern-day Fil-Chis are similar to modern Chinese Americans here in the US. There is this chasm between the uppity Chinese and those mostly based in Chinatown. A Chinese American friend of mine said that there are certain Chinese languages (mostly spoken as if the speaker is angry or shouting) that indicate that the people speaking those come from the "hinterlands" of mainland China as opposed to the more sophisticated areas or even HongKong or Macau. A lot of FilAm-Chinese here stress that they are Chinoys with pride because they are regarded as classier.

my cousin went to mainland China and he said the some vendors there sell meat on the concrete on the sidestreet, nothing underneath . Next to like an open drain.

My sister, when she went to mainland China when it just opened itself for tourism (I think in the province of Guangzhou) said that she was appalled that a lady just squatted on the street and urinated there. That was in early 1990s.

The two of you modern-day Fil-Chis are similar to modern Chinese Americans here in the US. There is this chasm between the uppity Chinese and those mostly based in Chinatown. A Chinese American friend of mine said that there are certain Chinese languages (mostly spoken as if the speaker is angry or shouting) that indicate that the people speaking those come from the "hinterlands" of mainland China as opposed to the more sophisticated areas or even HongKong or Macau. A lot of FilAm-Chinese here stress that they are Chinoys with pride because they are regarded as classier.

I agree wholeheartedly with that observation :D

I was infact cultureshocked when I went to China last year because I was so used to the Filipino culture. I can't seem to understand their ways even though we are somewhat similiar, in fact I felt more at home when I went to Malaysia lol

I've visited Manila's Chinatown and it's pretty interesting especially the culture. In fact the area was used as a location for filming movies that are suppose to be set in Hong Kong. Films like Hong Kong '97 which starred by Robert Patrick (T-1000, Terminator 2). Anyway, the place has some nice jewellry stores.

The only difference is, most Filipino-Chinese are of Fujian origin or came from the Fujian province. Hardly any Cantonese in The Philippines well except for Cebu.

Oh, that's interesting information. I thought that there were a lot of Cantonese in the Philippines.

^^ I think Wanch is right. Most of the Filipino-Chinese in Manila are of Fujian origin, although I did meet a few cantonese-speaking chinoys when I was in school.

my cousin went to mainland China and he said the some vendors there sell meat on the concrete on the sidestreet, nothing underneath . Next to like an open drain.

It is true all chinatown or chinese cities have these strange funky smell of decaying organic matter in them... i don't know where it comes from, maybe it is because of tea or food they dump in the sewers?? i don't know really... Even when i went to Hong Kong this funky chinatown smell similar to binondo is present...

i wouldn't limit that comment to only chinese cities. actually, every time i walk to the chinatown here in philadelphia, i always get taken back to the pag-asa market in olongapo city because of the smell...

Yeah i said chinatowns... i bet every big city has chinatowns in them and they all have the same funky smell...

Most Cantonese speaking chinese in the Philippines reside in Cebu. In fact some of my friends in HK settled there and had businesses.

^^ agree and mostly hongkong people prefer to visit cebu than manila

yes, they even had those korean store. ichiban someting like that

Aji Ichiban is a Hong Kong based store that sells Japanese products. That have it in Manila but I don't know about Cebu.

Went to Chinatown last Saturday and there were horse poo from calesas scattered all over the roads, plus, ...the smell of the poo. whew.

conyotic :poke: :happy:

Chinatown in Manila is very interesting but it can be a bit dangerous there at night. But the place sort of reminds me of Aberdeen in HK.

Cantonese (HK) :)
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/12/98/10928921/1710227257123l.jpg

Fujianese (MNL) :)
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/22/46/3676422/14639642330690l.jpg

Who are these people?

I've visited Manila's Chinatown and it's pretty interesting especially the culture. In fact the area was used as a location for filming movies that are suppose to be set in Hong Kong. Films like Hong Kong '97 which starred by Robert Patrick (T-1000, Terminator 2). Anyway, the place has some nice jewellry stores.

The only difference is, most Filipino-Chinese are of Fujian origin or came from the Fujian province. Hardly any Cantonese in The Philippines well except for Cebu.

pssst! my relatives might own one of those nice jewelry stores lol :lol:

Anyways, I used to live in there lol. I was so used to Chinatown at that time, the smell, the life, the horse poo and the spit. But eversince I moved to QC, I forgot about that and I feel like an alien from a foreign planet everytime I go there lol.

We don't have a specific one. Most of the city just has cebuano AND Chinese signs on buisnisses and such.

Yeah, even malls and public comfort rooms are going to be installed with Korean and Chinese signs.

Who are these people?

Just showing the difference between a Cantonese and a Fujianese. Most Cantonese are yellowish in color while Fujianese are whiter :)

Sista, Quezon City has a sizable Fil-Chi population. In fact, alot of reknowned Chinese schools are located there such as Grace and Xavier.

Ah xavier is in greenhills , san juan:)

hey that girl in the second picture is cute!

Went to Meisic Mall and 168 Mall today. Whew, grabe, nakakapagod talaga, and I walked all the way from LRT2 Recto Station up to Lee Garden Tower Binondo (just to check it out, but I was not able to take any pic), Meisic Mall and then 168 Mall.

Meisic Mall is still partly empty. Only the ground floor and second floor are occupied. The second floor is even only half-occupied yet by the Ever Supermarket.

Almost all of the stall owners are Chinese, really, I could hear them talking in Chinese (and of course I didn't undestand a single word save for she-she which is Thank You), there was even this stall playing a Chinese version of Madonna's Material Girl song. :D There was this stall which had a really nice, but big, jacket. I asked the owner if she has a smaller size but she told me "500" with the Chinese accent. In short, we won't be able understand each other so I just left for 168 Mall. The Chinese stall-owners there speaks better Filipino because of the heavier crowd there, so they're more exposed to our language.

168 has a food court on the third-level. There's a soon-to-open Jollibee, a medley of affordable Chinese restos, a Thai resto, and more. The place is nice but it is really so crowded.

Ah xavier is in greenhills , san juan:)

hey that girl in the second picture is cute!

oops my bad!

I thought Xavier was in New Manila which is in QC. Anyway, Quezon City has a sizable Fil-Chi population also San Juan. In fact, alot of wealthy Filipino-Chinese live in that area.

There's alot of goodlooking chinays in the Greenhills area I noticed but not too many goodlooking chinoys.

Lol.

I am Fujianese.

Kamuka mo ba si DAo ming tsu

There's alot of goodlooking chinays in the Greenhills area I noticed but not too many goodlooking chinoys.

There are. But prefer the modernist :) I prefer the intellectual and professional chinays.

Sista, Quezon City has a sizable Fil-Chi population. In fact, alot of reknowned Chinese schools are located there such as Grace and Xavier.

Yup I know because I'm one of them hehehhe :cheers:

there's really a huge difference in the way the Fil-Chi in Binondo lives and the Fil-Chi in QC live...and I'm proud to say that my brother studied in Xavier lol :)

I find that those Chinese who live in the QC-SJ area are more Filipinized and westernized. They/we're not the usual Chinese who does arranged marriages and that girls/boys should date only Chinese boys/girls. I remember a few years back me and my siblings were not even allowed to watch Filipino shows and telenovelas lol, but times did change and we're now allowed to do so. We're also less conservative, but darn our school is because we're not allowed to wear open toed shoes in school even if we're going to wear something causal lol

Yup I know because I'm one of them hehehhe :cheers:

there's really a huge difference in the way the Fil-Chi in Binondo lives and the Fil-Chi in QC live...and I'm proud to say that my brother studied in Xavier lol :)

I find that those Chinese who live in the QC-SJ area are more Filipinized and westernized. They/we're not the usual Chinese who does arranged marriages and that girls/boys should date only Chinese boys/girls. I remember a few years back me and my siblings were not even allowed to watch Filipino shows and telenovelas lol, but times did change and we're now allowed to do so. We're also less conservative, but darn our school is because we're not allowed to wear open toed shoes in school even if we're going to wear something causal lol

A bit. But most Chinese living in Binondo are more traditional and diversed compared to those in San Juan or QC. Binondo also has a sizable popultion of Taiwanese.

It's a very different society compared to those in HK!

So where do you go for the best chinese food?

What about the most affordable (but clean) but delicious Chinese food?

I don't eat Chinese food but Northpark and Superbowl China seems popular there.

I don't eat Chinese food but Northpark and Superbowl China seems popular there.

Yup both serve good Chinese food!....

In the Chinatown area, President and VIP (serves very good and big siomai) has good and affordable Chinese food. Also, there's this small Chinese restaurant near cd-r king (forgot the name) that has one of the cheapest and most delicious dimsum ever lol (but clean heheheh).

In the Banawe area, Causeway and Light Year (they serve half of a pineapple after every a set meal...I think this applies when you're ordering only a few dishes) serves good food.

OMG... President, I LOVE President. There used to be a place called Ocean Dragon but that has sadly closed down. :(

Lots of good Chinese restaurants on Banawe. Is Causeway the one that looks like a boat?

Gusto ko pa rin ang mga makalumang panciteria.

President is one of the classics that I remember going to back when I was a munting food lover. It's an institution. Parang yung Ocean Dragon na dati meron silang eat all you can dim sum na kanilang pakulo noong bago pa ang eat all you can craze. Napalugi siguro ng customer na katulad ko.

Is there still Kowloon House dimsum? I don't think this franchise is located in Chinatown but I like their siopaos and beef curry pies.

Is there still Kowloon House dimsum? I don't think this franchise is located in Chinatown but I like their siopaos and beef curry pies.

It's still there. I love thier stuff!

Yes! Thanks lotrfan! Hey, you've got lots of fans in the Skybar! :)

It is true all chinatown or chinese cities have these strange funky smell of decaying organic matter in them... i don't know where it comes from, maybe it is because of tea or food they dump in the sewers?? i don't know really... Even when i went to Hong Kong this funky chinatown smell similar to binondo is present...

I love the way TJ described it as "this funky Chinatown smell" :) :)

I wonder if there's a funky chinatown music to go with all the aroma - what about some of that squeeling Beijing opera?

Chinatown in Manila is very interesting but it can be a bit dangerous there at night. But the place sort of reminds me of Aberdeen in HK.

Cantonese (HK) :)
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/12/98/10928921/1710227257123l.jpg

Fujianese (MNL) :)
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/22/46/3676422/14639642330690l.jpg

I think the Manila Fujian girl is prettier - just my opinion! :)

They both need to use de-frizzer for their hair. Maybe a leave-in conditioner so that they don't have that just-got-out-of-bed look, unless that's intentional.

My sister, when she went to mainland China when it just opened itself for tourism (I think in the province of Guangzhou) said that she was appalled that a lady just squatted on the street and urinated there. That was in early 1990s.

That is soooo gross! Maybe she was a "street performer"? :)
Imagine how many flogs she'd get if she did that in Singapore or Malaysia!

They both need to use de-frizzer for their hair. Maybe a leave-in conditioner so that they don't have that just-got-out-of-bed look, unless that's intentional.

hmmm could be intentional - adds a certain come back to bed with me baby allure..... :)

Fujianese (MNL) :)
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/22/46/3676422/14639642330690l.jpg

She's pretty but it looks like she had something done to her nose and eyes.

hmmm could be intentional - adds a certain come back to bed with me baby allure..... :)

I'm glad you think that drfeelgood since my hair has some natural wave and occasional frizzies in it. ;)

The just out-of-bed look is 'in' nowadays.

She's pretty but it looks like she had something done to her nose and eyes.

I used to think it was just a crazy urban myth but I recently saw a doc about how popular eye lid surgery is all over East Asia - Japan, especially. The trend is being copied everywhere in the Far East. Ok some of the results look good but quite a few turn out to be real disasters - they look so deformed!! Just imagine the fortune they spend on these. On a similar note, "whitening soap" is currently de rigeur in many African countries. A lot of them contain very harmful chemicals though.

I'm glad you think that drfeelgood since my hair has some natural wave and occasional frizzies in it. ;)

The just out-of-bed look is 'in' nowadays.
wow so you're naturally seductive :) unlike these girls you don't need products to help you shine !

what a smooth-talker. no wonder you call yourself drfeelgood. ;)

Is there still Kowloon House dimsum? I don't think this franchise is located in Chinatown but I like their siopaos and beef curry pies.

I saw some when I was in Quezon City but I don't consider it dim sum. Actually Siopao is more Filipino-Chinese because you won't find it at a Chinese restaurant in HK. Same as Siomai.

^oh ye. good stuff. knowingly i thought it was fully chinese food. cool

OMG... President, I LOVE President. There used to be a place called Ocean Dragon but that has sadly closed down. :(

Lots of good Chinese restaurants on Banawe. Is Causeway the one that looks like a boat?

I don't think so heheheh (grabe kahit nakatira ako banda dun di ko alam lol). it's on the corner of Banawe and Del Monte avenue, tapat ng Leching.

Let me add another resto...Han Pao!!! seriously, they have the best fried dumplings ever! lol I used to have them for breakfast every sunday together with lugaw and siomai :banana:

Han Pao yes... also Banawe Soy Bean Factory. I think that's what it's called.

http://aringaseo.web.aplus.net/pupuplatter/lozano_chino_pansitero.jpg

^ Where did you get that Wonderboy? Talagang isang bandehadong pancit 'yan ah.

^ Where did you get that Wonderboy? Talagang isang bandehadong pancit 'yan ah.

Sorry I forgot to cite my source and put caption. Got that from Geocities I think. Caption from what I remember says the Chinese used to sell pancit in Divisoria to merchants, buyers, etc. I wonder what their pancit tastes like before. I mean majority of the restaurants, eateries within the Binondo district are Cantonese-inspired. Is anyone familir with Dong Bei Chinese dumpling located at Calle Nuevo? Below is the food review. Food is divine I swear:

One of the wonderful stops we had during our Binondo Food Tour (see previous post) was at a dumpling restaurant. Authentic Northern Chinese cooking was on offer at this small but delicious outlet. I promised our guide I would not publish its whereabouts so you would have to take his tour to find out… but I wouldn’t have been able to tell you the name anyway because I can’t read Chinese characters and that’s all that was posted on the glass doors of the restaurant. At any rate, we had meat and vegetable dumplings poached in broth or water and served with a nice light soy and garlic sauce as well as some of the most wicked and delicious chilli sauce. In addition, we ordered fried dumplings that were also really good. First, the dough was rolled out right in front of our eyes then the stuffed and slow fried in soya bean oil. The fried dumplings were cut into four and eaten with the same sauces as the boiled dumplings.

http://www.zyng.com/images/meals_big/DUMPLING.jpg

You may also visit the link for the pictures:

http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/chinatown-dumplings

Oh my. You can't post pictures of food when I haven't eaten yet.... argh. Nyam nyam nyam.

http://www.zyng.com/images/meals_big/DUMPLING.jpg

You may also visit the link for the pictures:

http://www.marketmanila.com/archives/chinatown-dumplings

looks so darn good!

looks so darn good!

My chinese neighbours used to make something similar - but instead of frying it, they steamed the dumplings. :)

Hey, you've got lots of fans in the Skybar! :)

Why do you say so? lol

I think the Manila Fujian girl is prettier - just my opinion! :)
para syan cross ni KC conception and glady's reyes.

Yeah, even malls and public comfort rooms are going to be installed with Korean and Chinese signs.


There was a discussion about that in another thread and it would be wrong to do that because those aren't official languages of the Philippines.

Our family has a modest rental space there, along Ongpin corner Fernandez street.

There was a discussion about that in another thread and it would be wrong to do that because those aren't official languages of the Philippines.

Sa sign na yan, parang doon mo makikita na nagiging multicultural na ang Pinas! Even sa Hong Kong may mga tagalog signs doon!

Sa sign na yan, parang doon mo makikita na nagiging multicultural na ang Pinas! Even sa Hong Kong may mga tagalog signs doon!

That's Hong Kong, we're our own. If they want to do that, let them. Plus it shows that they don't do their homework because there's no need to post Tagalog signs that much because we're English speaking.
The truth is that we aren't multicultural, we're not an immigrant country. We're diverse nationally, but we're Filipinos and Pilipino and English are the official languages.

My chinese neighbours used to make something similar - but instead of frying it, they steamed the dumplings. :)


Yeah, their dumplings are steamed. It's delicious and fun to eat. :)

That's Hong Kong, we're our own. If they want to do that, let them. Plus it shows that they don't do their homework because there's no need to post Tagalog signs that much because we're English speaking.
The truth is that we aren't multicultural, we're not an immigrant country. We're diverse nationally, but we're Filipinos and Pilipino and English are the official languages.

Sa ngayon, hindi ganun ka multicultural ang Pinas kung ikumpara mo sa ibang bansa sa South East Asia. Pero nagsisimula maging multicultural. Yung nasa Makati ako, marami akong nakitang signs in Hangeul.

Totoo na hindi kailangan maglagay ng mga tagalog signs sa Hong Kong pero maraming lugar doon na meron katulad sa Statue Square at dati sa Star Ferry.

^ u serious, they have tagalog signs over there. that's nice. i mean why? we speak english

Sa ngayon, hindi ganun ka multicultural ang Pinas kung ikumpara mo sa ibang bansa sa South East Asia. Pero nagsisimula maging multicultural. Yung nasa Makati ako, marami akong nakitang signs in Hangeul.

Totoo na hindi kailangan maglagay ng mga tagalog signs sa Hong Kong pero maraming lugar doon na meron katulad sa Statue Square at dati sa Star Ferry.

Ditto. The last time I went to rockwell, I thought I was in Korea because the Koreans seemed to have outnumbered the Filipinos lol

If you go to Paranaque in BF Homes, it's pretty muck KoreaTown.

^ u serious, they have tagalog signs over there. that's nice. i mean why? we speak english

Kasi ang Pilipino ang pinaka malaking minority group sa HK karamihan mga DH!

Ang parang Korea Town sa BF Homes ay doon sa Aguirre Ave. Sa BF ako nag stay yung nasa Manila ako. Pero para sa akin, wala akong problema sa mga Koreans dyan. Pero wag lang mag discriminate ang mga pinoy and vice versa rin sa kanila.

:okay: Agree. I actually really have no problems with non-Pilipino or non-English signage. It's not like they are out of context.

That's Hong Kong, we're our own. If they want to do that, let them. Plus it shows that they don't do their homework because there's no need to post Tagalog signs that much because we're English speaking.
The truth is that we aren't multicultural, we're not an immigrant country. We're diverse nationally, but we're Filipinos and Pilipino and English are the official languages.

...and multi-ethnic look of the people here makes it even seem like there are more immigrants than there really are. There are really lots of Filipinos that look like foreigners.

Karamihan ng mga celebs at models sa Pinas ganun. In fact daming models sa Pinas na half-lang o balikbayan katulad ni Cindy Kurleto, Derek Ramsey at iba pa. Wala naman tagalang pure Filipino. It's either you're Malay, Chinese, Spanish or mixed :)

Yup, kaya nga ang daming cute sa 'Pinas eh.

chinoys are great,... most well mannered. I know coz my gr8 uncle is xavier's administrator,... my best friend is chinese ,... and hes so clean, I feel like a pig around him sometimes....

... but, dudes, I think the chinese from cebu are cooler,... than those from manila,I like saw so many of them at the bars, my eyes were poping and since most of them werent pure 100 percent chines their bodies had curves, with perfect oriental skins

^^ hahah oo mas magaganda mga mixed kaso most chinese families gusto chinese lang ang pakasalan...oh well, pero times are changing lol

^ Sista whatabout koreans and Japanese are they open to marrying Koreans and Japanese?

chinoys are great,... most well mannered. I know coz my gr8 uncle is xavier's administrator,... my best friend is chinese ,... and hes so clean, I feel like a pig around him sometimes....

... but, dudes, I think the chinese from cebu are cooler,... than those from manila,I like saw so many of them at the bars, my eyes were poping and since most of them werent pure 100 percent chines their bodies had curves, with perfect oriental skins
Baket pag pure Chinese ba parang tingting?

^^ no... straight bodies ... as in walang korte.... :)

...and multi-ethnic look of the people here makes it even seem like there are more immigrants than there really are. There are really lots of Filipinos that look like foreigners.


That's true, there's so many filipino looks, but those are still filipinos. You can still tell.

@ Kyle - I also find those not pure Chinese more interesting (and better looking) than pure ones.

@ Thisfire - Yeah, you can still tell especially if you've been staying in the Philippines for long, but to some foreigners, they won't be able to tell if a mestizo-looking guy is Filipino or not by the looks alone. But there really are signs like the black or dark brown hair and the black or dark brown eyes.

That's true, there's so many filipino looks, but those are still filipinos. You can still tell.

everyone thinks that my mom is mexican. its because of her very pointy nose and very articulate in spanish.

^ Your mom is Cebuana mestiza?

^ Sista whatabout koreans and Japanese are they open to marrying Koreans and Japanese?

I think they're more open (coz my cousin is dating a korean woman), but they're still rigid. My friend went to korea and grabe daw mga tao dun. They don't say "excuse me" even though it's part of their language. Kung siksikan ang place, the people will hit you. Then the good part is, they have high regards to elders. In their subways, you have to give your seats to the elders. :)

My grandmother (born in China) had to run away from her parents for a bit to marry a Filipino man.

Isn't that a bit racists. Don't filipinos get kind of offended when they hear that. I mean after all it is the country they ran too and gave them opportunities when they were mass starving in China and then to look down on the natives like that....

My grandmother (born in China) had to run away from her parents for a bit to marry a Filipino man.

daw mano po....

Isn't that a bit racists. Don't filipinos get kind of offended when they hear that. I mean after all it is the country they ran too and gave them opportunities when they were mass starving in China and then to look down on the natives like that....

Yup. Totoo yan. Sadly, Nangyayari din yan ngayon with some of the people that I know [they say tsao huan (Hokkien, tsao=mabaho, huan=person) mga pinoys, same with the way pinoys use to call us, intsik], but a lot of us are assimilating and appreciating the Filipino culture....thankfully! :)

^ u meant saying intsik is an insult

Your mom is Cebuana mestiza?

yeah, i got the nose though luckily. my chinky eyes from dad :lol:

^ u meant saying intsik is an insult

yup, a lot of Filipinos and Chinese say it is. Kaya tuwing may magsasabi ng insik sa school ko or sa work ng ate ko, napapasensyahan na lang because that is the word use to pertain to the Chinese back in the Spanish era when they were treated as lower than the indios :)

Mahirap to! Sa alam ko intsik ang tagalog word for Chinese. Yung sa comment na karamihan ng mga Chinese, Chinese lang ang gusto nilang pakasalan mostly applied sa mga Filipino-Chinese lalo na ang mga traditonal Fujianese families.

Kung pumunta ka sa Hong Kong or sa mainland, iba ang mentality ng mga tao doon.

Yeah i thought intsik was just a tagalog slang word for Chinese. I dind't know they find it offensive. Like pinoy or something

yup, a lot of Filipinos and Chinese say it is. Kaya tuwing may magsasabi ng insik sa school ko or sa work ng ate ko, napapasensyahan na lang because that is the word use to pertain to the Chinese back in the Spanish era when they were treated as lower than the indios :)

nice to know :) but shouldn't someone say something at school especially in sibika at kultura or history class. i remember the tagalog of chinese is intsik but since you told me, i wont use the word no longer :)

So what is now Tagalog of Chinese?

So what is now Tagalog of Chinese?


chino or chinoy. if not sure if one is chinese or japanese/korean, etc. call him chinito. :)

i thought Zohirto :D

I find chink o chekwa more offensive than intsik.

Paano yung mga foreigners sa Hong Kong kung tawagin silang gweilo, don't they get offended o any caucasian being called Joe in Manila?

^yeah we call them joe mama ;)

Why should they be offended? They started it with GI Joe. Kids during the war were taught to call soldiers "Hey Joe, come here. Give me candy."

chino or chinoy. if not sure if one is chinese or japanese/korean, etc. call him chinito. :)

we use those words :) hehehhe. I'm actually fine with the word Instik, I didn't know it was offensive when someone told it to me lol

wasn't chin, aderogatory term of the british for the chinese...?

Nope pero ang name "China" ay galing sa Chin Dynasty :)

I know it is chink that is deragotary . Americans use

I know it is chink that is deragotary . Americans use

Actually The British used it first due to the fact that they had alot of settlements in China including HK :)

just call them Chino. Thats the more politcally correct term.

the Welcome Arch in Binondo specifically says "Arko ng Pagkakaibigang Pilipino-Tsino".

Pag intsik kase parang naaassociate ko sa 'singkit' which is kinda 'racist' or 'derogatory'.

Chino, Chinoy, Chinito. Ayus!

cebu is one place where there is a big chinese population, but has no chinatown. the chinese-cebuanos live harmoniously with the native cebuanos.

^u mean the natives or the koreans

Yeah, me too, I felt that the word 'Intsik' sounds offensive. Tsino or Tsinoy sounds better. I'm hearing it more often in the media.

Bump!

^^ hahah oo mas magaganda mga mixed kaso most chinese families gusto chinese lang ang pakasalan...oh well, pero times are changing lol

A conversation between a Chinese Father and a Tsinay daughter :

Tatay : Wak ka boypren sa wanah(offensive word to Pinoys), wanah, mga tamad, lasengelo at babaelo(womanizer).

Anak : e Dad, mabait naman si Procorpio ah.

Tatay : Maske na, pak ikaw kasal sa kanya, wala ka mana akin.

Anak : e Dad, papano yung dalawang anak mo sa katulong natin, bigay mo din mana?

Tatay : eh, eh, kelan kayo kasal Plokopyo! , ako mayad lahat ngastos!


.....

:lol:

Now, back to the topic.............


http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5919/onpinpz8.jpg

CHINA TOWN - Philippines

As early as the 10th century, a lively trade has been going on between itinerant merchants coasting along the China Sea and the river bank dwellers of the Pasig River.

At the northern bank of this river sprang a thicker-and-woods village where a community of Chinese lived peaceably among the Tagalogs when the Spaniards came.

The village was called Binundok, a tagalog term for hilly terrain, but the Spaniards, perpetuating a corruption of its name, referred to it as Isla de Binondo (Isle of Binondo).

During the trading galleon centuries, the mercantile town of Binondo served as the center of trading post between Asia and the New World. Trade that was to sustain a colony for 300 years and spawn enormous fortunes.

Today, with its maze of narrow streets, storehouses, bazaars, restaurants and business establishments, Binondo seems hardly changed after centuries as the city's Chinese borough. Still bustling with endless commercial activiy, this former core of international trade has now become a haven for those in search of authentic oriental cuisine and bargains.

Ongpin, the major artery that cuts through Chinatown's heartland is an enticing treasure trove of gold-smithery, countless eateries serving traditional Chinese dishes, pastry shops with tempting oriental delicacies,a nd apothecaries selling herbal packets and exotic remedies. Equally inviting are the interwining side streets and alleyways along this thoroughfare boasting of an overwhelming array of assorted goods ranging from fresh produce and exotic preserves to ornaments, hardware and furniture shops.

Adding color to the charms of this commercial district are the frantic activities of tenacious vendors peddling their assorted of goods and competing for attention among the carnival of shoppers.

But there is more to Chinatown than mere shopping. Beyond the color, the noise, and the smell, this lively Sino sector proposes further exciting discoveries...

A conversation between a Chinese Father and a Tsinay daughter :

Tatay : Wak ka boypren sa wanah(offensive word to Pinoys), wanah, mga tamad, lasengelo at babaelo(womanizer).

Anak : e Dad, mabait naman si Procorpio ah.

Tatay : Maske na, pak ikaw kasal sa kanya, wala ka mana akin.

Anak : e Dad, papano yung dalawang anak mo sa katulong natin, bigay mo din mana?

Tatay : eh, eh, kelan kayo kasal Plokopyo! , ako mayad lahat ngastos!


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:lol:


:lol: more of this please :lol:

ANG KASAYSAYAN NG PINAKA-MARAMING DAYUHAN

Ang Mga ‘Intsik’ Sa Pilipinas
Sa ibang bayan sa timog silangang Asia, ang mga
mestizong Intsik ay itinuring na tangi at kaibang
uri ng Intsik, ngunit sa Pilipinas, itinuring
silang tangi at kaibang uri ng Pilipino
-- Edgar Vickberg, historian, US Library of Congress

MAHIGIT isang libong taon na ang ugnayan ng mga Intsik sa iba’t ibang bayan sa timog silangan subalit maliban sa Vietnam na sinakop ng China nang ilang daang taon, pinakamatagal ang danak ng mga Intsik sa Pilipinas. Katunayang napakatagal na sila rito, naging bahagi na sila ng lipunan at dugo ng mga Pinoy - ang tinatawag na mestizong Intsik, ang mga chinitos at chinitas nuong panahon ng Español, ang mga tumatawag sa sarili ng ‘Tsinoy’ o Chinese Pinoy sa kasalukuyan.

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7071/intstsayqz4.jpg

Nuong una ay patak-patak lamang ang dating ng mga Intsik, paisa-isang barko ng mga nagkalakal mula sa Chincheo, ang malawak na dalampasigan ng timog China na binubuo ngayon ng mga lalawigan ng Fujian at Guangdong.

May ilang ‘talon bakod’ na nag-familia na sa pulu-pulo upang makatakas sa hirap ng buhay sa China subalit sa pagdating ng mga Español, at sa palaot nila ng ‘galleon trade’ talagang bumuhos ang mga Intsik - mga nagkalakal at
lalong higit, ang mga hampas-lupang naghanap ng hanap-buhay at ‘bagong buhay’ hindi lamang sa Manila kundi sa iba’t ibang bahagi ng kapuluan.
Sila ang naging cargadores sa daungan at mga bodega, mga carpintero at mason na nagtayo ng mga bahay at simbahan ng mga Español, mga tienderos na naglako sa lahat ng pamilihang natagpuan nila, mga utusang muchachos sa Intramuros at sa mga conventos ng mga frayle.

Sila ang nagtayo ng Intramuros, inabot ng mahigit 100 taon sa tagal ng fundar at mando ng mga Español. Sila ang umukit para sa mga frayle ng mga estatwa ng santos, ng nazarenos, ng mga mahal na virgen na sinasamba pa hanggang ngayon sa Quiapo, sa Santo Domingo (‘La Señora de la Naval’) at sa iba pang mga simbahan sa kapuluan, at sa Mexico (‘La Señora de Guadalupe’).


to be continued......

this is like flooding the thread, but these documents and the following are some nice read.......... :)

http://www.elaput.com/intsmap2.jpg

Ang ‘Kuya’ Ay Intsik

Napakalapit ang mayaman at malawak na kaharian ng China sa kanlurang hilaga ng pulong ito.
Kapag naglayag nang maaga at maganda ang panahon, tanaw na ito kinabukasan...
--Domingo de Salazar, unang obispo sa Manila, liham kay Felipe 2, hari ng España, 1581

SA China, hindi China ang tawag sa China. Ang tawag ng mga Intsik sa kanilang bayan ay Zhong Guo. Duon unang nabanggit, halos 1,300 taon sa nakaraan, ang kapuluang tatawaging Pilipinas pagkaraan ng mahigit 600 taon. Ang mga taga-Europa ang nagbigay ng pangalang China nuong bandang panahon ni Ferdinand Magellan, balik-tawag sa Chinia o lupain ng mga Chin (Chin dynasty), ang angkang naghari nuong 265-316, nang unang nabalita ang kaharian ng mga Intsik sa Europa na sakop nuon ng imperio ng Roma (Roman empire).

Hindi Intsik ang tawag sa Intsik ng mga Intsik. Ang tawag ay ‘hoa’ (Chinese) subalit gamit ng marami ang ‘han,’ alaala ng taginting na panahon 2,200 taon sa nakaraan, nang naghari sa China ang angkan ng mga Han (Han dynasty). Ang ‘in chik’ ay ‘tiohin’ o ‘tio’ (uncle) sa wikang Hokien (tinawag ding Fokien, Fujian ang tawag ngayon) sa timog China. Duon unang nabanggit ang mga dayuhang tinawag nilang ‘hindi civilizado’ (barbarians) mula sa Ma-i, ang pulo na tinatawag ngayong Mindoro.

............Ang ‘Kuya’ Ay Intsik (http://www.elaput.com/ntsk03.htm)

operational pa rin ba ang Manila Jumbo Palace?

Bump!

http://www.metaluck.com/archives/feng_shui_case_2.jpg
Our old house looks like this. But the living room was facing towards the north.


And my house in Pinas was planned on a piece of white bond paper only.
Actually that was my design in college for electrical wiring, then we just used it and build from it.
Permit permit pa, palakasan na lang sa Engineer's office. :p
Kaya ayun, walang Feng shui, kaya siguro binabaha. :D

http://www.metaluck.com/archives/feng_shui_for_home/

http://www.metaluck.com/archives/feng_shui_case_2.jpg
Our old house looks like this. But the living room was facing towards the north.


And my house in Pinas was planned on a piece of white bond paper only.
Actually that was my design in college for electrical wiring, then we just used it and build from it.
Permit permit pa, palakasan na lang sa Engineer's office. :p
Kaya ayun, walang Feng shui, kaya siguro binabaha. :D

http://www.metaluck.com/archives/feng_shui_for_home/

@Tsinoy: from the diagram above, I'm surprised they put a bathroom/toilet in the North sector of the house. That is not good for the career which is in the North sector. Or perhaps the orientation was based on the personal Kua number of the house owner.

The master's bedroom needs to face the sunrise right? :D

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/ECdoesit/openingbagua.jpg

The color chart above is a simplified illustration of a bagua (pronounced Ba-gwa). It is used in feng shui to find out which part of your home or office correlates with a particular situation in your life. Once you understand how to use this "map of feng shui," you will be able to quickly evaluate and adjust your environment to maximize greater health and productivity while improving your quality of life.

In the bagua diagram above, there are eight areas, or "guas," encircling the center. As shown, these nine different zones correspond to nine major areas of life - prosperity, fame and reputation, relationships, family, health, creativity and children, skills and knowledge, career, and helpful people.

To overlay the bagua on your home or work floor plan, stand at the threshold of the door facing in and hold the diagram so that the blue, black, and gray guas are closest to you. Pretend you can draw a line straight across the front of the home where the door is: that would be the line at the bottom of this color chart.

SECTORS/ CORRESPONDENCES:
NORTH - Career
NORTHEAST - Skills/Knowledege/Wisdom
EAST - Family/Foundation
SOUTHEAST -Prosperity/Abundance
SOUTH - Fame/Reputation
SOUTHWEST - Relationship/Love/Marriage
WEST - Creativity/ Children
NORTHWEST - Helpful People/ Travel

The master's bedroom needs to face the sunrise right? :D

Going stricly with Feng Shui applications, the location of the master's bedroom should depend on the KUA number of the head of the household. This is based on the calculation of his birth date which will reveal his Kua No. The calculation is different for males and females. The Kua no. will reveal the auspicious and inauspicious sectors of the owner's home.

Absent strict Feng Shui calculation, facing the sunrise may be good because it does give the room a good 'chi'.

FENG SHUI FOR THE BEDROOM

Feng Shui plays an important part in the bed room. The bedroom should be designed so that you place your bed as per your KUA direction, and just follow some basic bed room Feng Shui guidelines. The master bedroom in your house is the most important bedroom as usually the head of the family sleeps there. The head of the family controls the finances of the house and there are a few things to consider.

The positioning of the bed
Always place your bed in your correct KUA direction. If you auspicious direction is North, when you sleep, your head should be pointing the North Direction. Sometimes, it is not possible to point to your best direction due to some obstruction for example if the north direction is the main entrance, then use the second best direction to place your bed. If husband and wife KUA direction is conflicting, then you need to find a direction that are not conflicting to both of you. If so happen that all directions are conflicting, then you should follow the KUA direction of the Head of the Family.

1. The bed should not be placed directly below an exposed beam.
2. Do not position the bed so it faces another bedroom door.
3. Do not position any mirrors facing the bed.
4. The bed should not be placed between 2 doors.
5. Neither should the bed face against a wall. It should not be floating.
6. The headboard must be placed against a wall. It should not be "Floating".
7. Never move the bed when your wife is pregnant
8. The bedroom should not be located above a garage, storeroom or kitchen.
9. Do not have the bedroom door face the top of the stairs.
10. Do not sleep in a room directly facing the toilet.
11. Do not have fancy archways in your bedroom.
12. Do not place plotted plants or an aquarium in the bed room.

What if our room is so small that every place the bed is in is in front of the door?

And what does facing a wall mean? what does floating mean?

In fact I was involved with chinese clients for so long and this things realy scratch my head on my design process. But that is their belief and I have to respect them. For Lili's post about bedroom feng shui, I agree with this.

But if you really want a clear insight of all this, infact different feng shui masters have different interpretations. And for my reasearch for this, I recommend to read the Fengshui of Joey Yap, or Lilian Too's Theory about feng shui. Acoording to Joey Yaps knowledge, feng shui is not just simply applied and it is case to case basis where chi or good luck is predetermined. He is a very good feng shui master and very realistic in approach. He is not fascinated as to what the normal feng shui applied. Please try to look for his website, very exciting.

a little off topic...


ano ba ang tamang pronounciation ng "feng shui?"

feng shwey o fung suy??


kasi a lot of americans pronounce it as feng shwey...

@Tsinoy: from the diagram above, I'm surprised they put a bathroom/toilet in the North sector of the house. That is not good for the career which is in the North sector. Or perhaps the orientation was based on the personal Kua number of the house owner.

Kaya nga siguro life was very stale in San Fernando Valley that time. Those houses where made after the second world war. Box type just like the PROJECTs housing in Q.C.,
I was joking when we moved in, I said, just like in a movie, the badguy will run into the front door and just open the backdoor and he go right thru the neighbor's backyard. :)

3. Do not position any mirrors facing the bed.
- I was watching Globe Trekker and Megan visited lots of expensive hotels in the Middle East Gulf ~ Kuwait, UAE, Oman..etc.. she went to a nice hotel and her room was surrounded by mirrors then she asked what's the big mirror on top of the bed doing there. :lol:

I believe the architect of this 7 star hotel is Chinese and the Feng Shui contractor must have been paid a lot of money.
http://www.fusae.com/PartnerTempur/image/hotel2.jpg

In Las Vegas, most newer Hotel/Casino followed the Feng Shui art, but malas pa din kami.

@xXx carlos xXx - feng shwey o fung suy are ok, don't worry about the pronounciation, they are not close to any Chinese bad words. :D

dapat rin daw odd number ang steps ng stairs niyo 3, 6, 9.......

dapat rin daw odd number ang steps ng stairs niyo 3, 6, 9.......

Actually, sa Filipino tradition, hindi. Kasi ang equivalent niyan sa "Oro, Plata, Mata", mata which means death.

Oro (Gold), Plata (Silver) Mata (Death). So, when they built stairs before during Spanish colonial period, they didn't want it to land on the third step while reciting "oro plata mata". Sometimes, they added additional platforms to cure this.

We have to combine Philippine tradition/superstition with Chinese Feng Shui. Interior designers usually scratch their heads trying to combine these. Modern architectural firms now usually have connection with or in house feng shui consultants.

What if our room is so small that every place the bed is in is in front of the door?

And what does facing a wall mean? what does floating mean?

I saw your bedroom and even slept there. ;) I didn't see any blatant feng shui violation. 'Floating' means the headboard is not against a wall.

The only thing is that because one side of your bed is flushed against the wall, you remain singular because there is no space for a 'significant other'.

(Actually my bed in my mom's place is like that and I sleep there often instead of my own studio.)

Also, your bed faces a back door. But you have blocked off that space with bookshelves which actually cured it. The shelves should not have 'poison arrows' facing your bed because these generate bad 'chi'. Poison arrows are those sharp corners of tables or furniture. You can cure this by putting some house plants (e.g. water plants) to soften the sharpness.

Your bedroom is also painted maroon red which generates yang or masculine energy. (No wonder there are a lot of lesbians in your life.) ;)

Just close your door when you sleep so that there is peace in your chi and there is not too much yang energy coming from an open door.

http://www.newenergybedrooms.com/images/Futons-Albany_Futon.jpg
I have this kind of Futon/Bed when I was still in an LA apartment. I like that bed, pag sinabing masama iharap sa hagdanan or bintana, madali itulak.
Pag sawa na, hatakin na lang yung foam sa sahig at dun na lang pagulong gulong. :D


The Stars and Dragons

We place a glass filled with water and a spoon on a window, I don't know what that's for

if anyone's interested, i found Lillian Too's book on feng shui really good... very informative, simple to understand and very practical :okay:

more on the bedroom... she says it is not good to put your head board against a wall if a bathroom is on the other side of that wall... also, better to have a solid head board... and nothing with a reflective surface should face the bed - mirrors or tv - to prevent a third party into your marriage (hehe, no kidding!)... bathrooms should be small and the bathroom doors should be kept close (i guess she meant even when you're not inside the bathroom hahaha!)... and don't sleep with your feet directly facing the door of your bedroom (bad luck... para sa mga patay lang daw yun)

mga chinese ba talaga, everytime na magsasara at magbubukas ng door, ibabagsak nila para lumabas ang malas???? chinese next door neighboor namin, gusto ko ng awayin..parang magigiba ang building namin sa kanila..grabe kung makabagsak ng pintuan!!

Just PM me if you want Feng Shui or any Chinese astrology!

i heard malas daw yung fan-shaped tree/plant. yung parang palm ata yung itsura ng leaves kasi yung swerte magsisimula sa baba tapos paakyat then baba nanaman sa dulo. dunno what its called though...

^^ Hindi naman siguro. National leaf natin yon. It's called Anahaw.

Ang malas ay yung thorny or prickly plants. Don't give cacti as gifts.

Lucky plants are those with round-shaped leaves. For indoor plants, the Chinese like the Money Plant, the Jade Plant and the Lucky Bamboo.

^^lucky pala ang Jade hehehe!

^^ Oo lucky talaga ang Jade. In ancient times (Mayan, Aztec and Chinese), Jade was worth more than gold.

mga chinese ba talaga, everytime na magsasara at magbubukas ng door, ibabagsak nila para lumabas ang malas???? chinese next door neighboor namin, gusto ko ng awayin..parang magigiba ang building namin sa kanila..grabe kung makabagsak ng pintuan!!

i don't think so... my dad's chinese pero everytime nagdadabog ako and i slam the door sasabihin nun "masisira ang bahay ko!" hehe! :)

One thing I notice is the no. of chinese schools in the Philippines especially those in Metro Manila providing primary and secondary education.

An example would be Xavier School in Greenhills which is one of the finest all-male chinese schools in the city.

I would like to know what's the difference between chinese schools from other Philippine primary or secondary schools besides the chinese language? How is the education there and also the subjects? Are there any SSC forumers here who went to one and also your experiences?

^^I know sista is from ICA:)

longer hours in school! :lol:

seriously, because of the additional subject - studying 3 languages instead of 2

i guess one example of the quality of education i got from ica is that i got into a quota course at UP Diliman (business administration & accountancy)

students from chinese schools are usually excellent in math..

students from chinese schools are usually excellent in math..

Yes, that's what I've noticed. I also noticed that most of them are good in playing Chess

chinese is taught only as a foreign language and it's just one subject in addition to the usual english, math, science, civics, filipino, religion, PE, computer, cooking/baking/sewing, music, etc... however, i think it's different for chinese schools in downtown manila coz, correct me if i'm wrong, they have history & math subjects in chinese too

Mahal yung tuition. hehehe. Seriously, aside from Chinese, yep its true, strict sa Math, sa mga projects lalo na sa HE, pati na sa uniform at haircut. At nag e-excel sa mga exams like NCEE (well, at least nung time namin yung lowest eh 88%) sa ngayon Nsat na.

Well, in our case, Chinese is not a mandatory subject, kaya may free time yung mga di kumukuha ng Chinese, hehehe. hurray for Mandarin. By the way, took high school from Santa Maria Catholic School, now, Ateneo de Iloilo.:nuts:

Philippine Tong Ho Institute Here in Lucena is One of the oldest Chinese school in the Country.

Nung panahon namin, (not panahon ng hapon), medyo mahirap nga magaral.
Umaga, regular class in English tapos sa hapon, Chinese naman.


Why Chinese students are good in Math?

Not every Chinese student is good in Math, but studying Math in a Chinese school had some advantages.

First - we have math in English, then Math in Chinese.
Second - we memorized the multiplication table, we basically sing the multiplication table in Chinese after the flag ceremonie(s) Lupang Hinirang and Taiwan national anthem.
Third - Chinese are mostly into their own family business and children get an early dose of crunching numbers when they are helping in their own stores.

Fourth - Most Chinese are resourceful, (leftover rice today would be fried rice tomorrow) or singkong tubo sa limang pisong puhunan is very good.
Fifth - maliit pa kami, sugarol na. Kung hindi "ADDING" ng serial numbers ng peso bills, tantsing o Teks.. ...:lol:

the last one should not be taken seriously.....

Nung panahon namin, (not panahon ng hapon), medyo mahirap nga magaral.
Umaga, regular class in English tapos sa hapon, Chinese naman.


Why Chinese students are good in Math?

Not every Chinese student is good in Math, but studying Math in a Chinese school had some advantages.

First - we have math in English, then Math in Chinese.
Second - we memorized the multiplication table, we basically sing the multiplication table in Chinese after the flag ceremonie(s) Lupang Hinirang and Taiwan national anthem.
Third - Chinese are mostly into their own family business and children get an early dose of crunching numbers when they are helping in their own stores.

Fourth - Most Chinese are resourceful, (leftover rice today would be fried rice tomorrow) or singkong tubo sa limang pisong puhunan is very good.
Fifth - maliit pa kami, sugarol na. Kung hindi "ADDING" ng serial numbers ng peso bills, tantsing o Teks.. ...:lol:

the last one should not be taken seriously.....

Curious lang, bakit national anthem ng Taiwan? Bakit hindi yung sa mainland China?

Curious lang, bakit national anthem ng Taiwan? Bakit hindi yung sa mainland China?
Taiwan kasi ang considered na China that time in the 60's to 80's. And most Chinese revered Dr. Sun Yat Sen and Gen. Chiang Kai Shek.

Taiwan kasi ang considered na China that time in the 60's to 80's. And most Chinese revered Dr. Sun Yat Sen and Gen. Chiang Kai Shek.

Yup pero 2006 na. Most countries recognize China and not Taiwan. Anyway, I don't want to go further on that issue.

The reason why I got interested in chinese schools because I had a friend who went to Grace. I think the school is in QC. She just graduated in La Salle and is now working as an accountant.

Another thing, what's the dialect taught in chinese schools, Mandarin or Fujian? Is Cantonese also used as a dialect?

^^ in the philippines, it is very seldom that the cantonese language is used... most of the filipino chinese who speak at least one chinese language speak fujian or usually termed as amoy

one possible answer why students from chinese schools are good in math. yes, it is true that they have this math subject taught in chinese AND they are also taught some techniques to solve the mathematical problem in a shorter way. kaya kung merong mga math olympiads, nananalo palagi ang mga chinese at sila sila lang din ang magtutunggali kase may technique nga sila na hindi alam ng mga pinoy....

some popular chinese schools in cebu:
Sacred Heart School Jesuit - formerly SHS for boys
Sacred Heart School for Girls
Cebu Eastern College
Bethany Christian School
Philippine Christian Gospel School - ang galing ng mga studes nila sa MATH
Cherish Christian School
and many others....

^^I know sista is from ICA:)

Yup that's right! and I ain't good at math.

Immaculate Conception Academy is the only known exclusive Catholic school in the country.

I'm proud of my school although our chinese (mandarin) lags in comparison to St. Jude, Chang Kai Shek and other notable chinese schools out there. When it comes to holistic education, we're on top. Our english, Filipino, sciences are good (but it seems as though students these days don't manifest the greatness of our school)

I enjoy staying in ICA because we have very good facilities to accomodate our needs even though the bathrooms are of the same color our classrooms (purple yuck!). The people (A mix of a chinese majority, a couple of pure Filipinos and some people in between) are generally friendly, laid back and they have mastered the art of cramming and balancing between work and play. I have to admit there are some very rich prissy kids out there who think they're all that, but most kids are down to earth, CHATTY and ready to accomodate you.

The teachers are also good as most of our mentors know how to bond with the students at the same time, not chopping their heads off. Also, our teachers are generally fluent in english (except for one or two in the highschool deparment) with no accents at all and they don't play favorites or at least that's how I feel. We're also bombarded with homeworks and projects to keep us busy (I have 3 paper works to finish this quarter).

Some famous graduates:

Tessie Sy Coson
Mary "Rosebud" Ong
Julie Yap Daza
Dr. Queena Lee Chua
Robina Gokongwei-Pe
Stephanie Coyuto (former columnist for The Philippine Star)

Notables:

Tim Yap starred in our 96' play Passages :lol:

**this is turning out to be a promotional wagon though I vowed to myself never to come back to ICA after I graduate bwahahhahahaha

ETA: sa ibang chinese schools yun talagang chinese talaga, whole morning is dedicated to english and other subjects, whole afternoon is everything chinese, math, rhetorics and whatnots

longer hours in school! :lol:

seriously, because of the additional subject - studying 3 languages instead of 2

i guess one example of the quality of education i got from ica is that i got into a quota course at UP Diliman (business administration & accountancy)

ICAn ka pala! ^_^

We have a high passing rate at UP, Ateneo and Lasalle ^_^

Bacolod Tay Tung High School is d'bst chinese skul here in Bacolod.....


Other chinese skuls are:
Trinity Christian School
St. John's Institue

I know that good Chinese schools in Manila are:

St. Jude Catholic School in San Miguel, Manila
Xavier School in Greenhills
Immaculate Concepcion Academy (ICA) in Greenhills
General Chiang Kai Shek in Binondo

Quietlife Andy studied in Chiang Kai Shek

I was under the impression before that it was strict to enter the latter and they restrict enrollment to those with certain high percentages of Chinese blood. But Andy told me otherwise. He said it was "urban legend". That's what he said, but I heard that historically, these Chinese schools are like that.

one possible answer why students from chinese schools are good in math. yes, it is true that they have this math subject taught in chinese AND they are also taught some techniques to solve the mathematical problem in a shorter way. kaya kung merong mga math olympiads, nananalo palagi ang mga chinese at sila sila lang din ang magtutunggali kase may technique nga sila na hindi alam ng mga pinoy....

some popular chinese schools in cebu:
Sacred Heart School Jesuit - formerly SHS for boys
Sacred Heart School for Girls
Cebu Eastern College
Bethany Christian School
Philippine Christian Gospel School - ang galing ng mga studes nila sa MATH
Cherish Christian School
and many others....

miss ko na shs-b/shs-j

Yup pero 2006 na. Most countries recognize China and not Taiwan. Anyway, I don't want to go further on that issue.


Before we step out on that issue, Most Chinese during that time were from Taiwan and those from Fujian don't want to deal with Red China.
I'm not sure if the Chinese schools in Pinas has the ROC communist flag besides the Philippine flag.



Another thing, what's the dialect taught in chinese schools, Mandarin or Fujian? Is Cantonese also used as a dialect?
Hookien was the common language during that time but Mandarin was being taught also. Chinese from HK are the ones using Cantonese for their own group but everyone don't have any problem communicating with each other but you can feel some animosities between different factions.


@lili, I had some classmates that are pure Pinoys even in Xavier there are lots of non-Chinese students. JV(anak ni Erap) was a student of my sister in Xavier.

I graduated from grace....it's a very good school.....low profile lang sya at hindi masyadong publisized like xavier and ica....but i bet our graduates rival theirs in terms of a lot of things....maraming very good graduates too and sa UP nag-graduate


Yup pero 2006 na. Most countries recognize China and not Taiwan. Anyway, I don't want to go further on that issue.

The reason why I got interested in chinese schools because I had a friend who went to Grace. I think the school is in QC. She just graduated in La Salle and is now working as an accountant.

Another thing, what's the dialect taught in chinese schools, Mandarin or Fujian? Is Cantonese also used as a dialect?

Nung panahon namin, (not panahon ng hapon), medyo mahirap nga magaral.
Umaga, regular class in English tapos sa hapon, Chinese naman.


Why Chinese students are good in Math?

Not every Chinese student is good in Math, but studying Math in a Chinese school had some advantages.

First - we have math in English, then Math in Chinese.
Second - we memorized the multiplication table, we basically sing the multiplication table in Chinese after the flag ceremonie(s) Lupang Hinirang and Taiwan national anthem.
Third - Chinese are mostly into their own family business and children get an early dose of crunching numbers when they are helping in their own stores.

Fourth - Most Chinese are resourceful, (leftover rice today would be fried rice tomorrow) or singkong tubo sa limang pisong puhunan is very good.
Fifth - maliit pa kami, sugarol na. Kung hindi "ADDING" ng serial numbers ng peso bills, tantsing o Teks.. ...:lol:

the last one should not be taken seriously.....

I also want to add on this....nuong dating panahon din, all the boy scout troops of chinese schools are member of BSC boy scout of china sa taiwan naka-registered and not under BSP boy scout of the philippines...

marcos made a nationalization program back then kaya nawala yun

Yup that's right! and I ain't good at math.

Immaculate Conception Academy is the only known exclusive Catholic school in the country.

I'm proud of my school although our chinese (mandarin) lags in comparison to St. Jude, Chang Kai Shek and other notable chinese schools out there. When it comes to holistic education, we're on top. Our english, Filipino, sciences are good (but it seems as though students these days don't manifest the greatness of our school)

I enjoy staying in ICA because we have very good facilities to accomodate our needs even though the bathrooms are of the same color our classrooms (purple yuck!). The people (A mix of a chinese majority, a couple of pure Filipinos and some people in between) are generally friendly, laid back and they have mastered the art of cramming and balancing between work and play. I have to admit there are some very rich prissy kids out there who think they're all that, but most kids are down to earth, CHATTY and ready to accomodate you.

The teachers are also good as most of our mentors know how to bond with the students at the same time, not chopping their heads off. Also, our teachers are generally fluent in english (except for one or two in the highschool deparment) with no accents at all and they don't play favorites or at least that's how I feel. We're also bombarded with homeworks and projects to keep us busy (I have 3 paper works to finish this quarter).

Some famous graduates:

Tessie Sy Coson
Mary "Rosebud" Ong
Julie Yap Daza
Dr. Queena Lee Chua
Robina Gokongwei-Pe
Stephanie Coyuto (former columnist for The Philippine Star)

Notables:

Tim Yap starred in our 96' play Passages :lol:

**this is turning out to be a promotional wagon though I vowed to myself never to come back to ICA after I graduate bwahahhahahaha

ETA: sa ibang chinese schools yun talagang chinese talaga, whole morning is dedicated to english and other subjects, whole afternoon is everything chinese, math, rhetorics and whatnots

sino nga ba mga famous graduates ng grace?....

ang naiisip ko lang right now is:

Al Francis Chua....yung PBA coach
Wilson Lee Flores.....yung columnist sa phil star
and yung mayor ng Valenzuela....Gatchalian....forgot his name...

certainly, hindi anak ng mga mega tycoons bec they send their kids to xavier and ica

I know that good Chinese schools in Manila are:

St. Jude Catholic School in San Miguel, Manila
Xavier School in Greenhills
Immaculate Concepcion Academy (ICA) in Greenhills
General Chiang Kai Shek in Binondo

Quietlife Andy studied in Chiang Kai Shek

I was under the impression before that it was strict to enter the latter and they restrict enrollment to those with certain high percentages of Chinese blood. But Andy told me otherwise. He said it was "urban legend". That's what he said, but I heard that historically, these Chinese schools are like that.


he's right! at ica and xavier, any kid (regardless of race) who gets accepted is required to take all the subjects including chinese... without exception :)

there are quite a number of politicos who send their kids to study in xavier... not as much at ica

there are two very good chinese schools here in dumaguete, we have
HOLY CROSS HIGH SCHOOL
CHUNG HUA SCHOOL

actually....ang alam ko wala naman talagang chinese school na nag discriminate....

the case s if you want to attend one then you have to study chinese....kaya yung mga ayaw hindi na sila nag aapply.....and not that the school rejected them....sila ang ayaw....

plus.....it's hard to transfer from a nonchinese school to one because magsisimula ang bata sa grade one sa chinese......e di nakakahiya yun.....but kung ok lang sa kanila....di ok lang

I also want to add on this....nuong dating panahon din, all the boy scout troops of chinese schools are member of BSC boy scout of china sa taiwan naka-registered and not under BSP boy scout of the philippines...

marcos made a nationalization program back then kaya nawala yun

Buti na lang. It did not seem right that they will be registered in Boy Scouts of China instead of Boy Scouts of the Philippines, unless they were not citizens of the Philippines.

Buti na lang. It did not seem right that they will be registered in Boy Scouts of China instead of Boy Scouts of the Philippines, unless they were not citizens of the Philippines.


they were not citizens....would you believe that as late as 1975, chinese were being discriminated and the government doesn't want to give them citizenship....it was only when marcos allowed naturalization program on that year that chinese were able to be citizens

I know for a fact my uncle graduated in college way back in 1968 but can't take the board till 1978 because he doesn't have a citizenship....he was born in the philippines and was living here all his life but most chinese filipino were barred citizenship till 1975

because of this....since you don't have citizenship....you can't be a professional, you can't be a land owner....fil-chinese were left with the only choice of trading.....which became big in the end.....that's why there are lots of tycoon....poetic justice ba and blessing in disguise....

^^ Oh yes. That is nice snippet of FilChi history/saga then. I read somewhere in these threads before that there was a time that acquiring Philippine citizenship for Taiwanese then was "like gold".

wondering if other countries like indonesia, vietnam, india, japan, malaysia, and countries in Europe, Asia, Africa and America allows chinese which seems to have their own autonomy. if only the Philippines is allowing it, what is the good reasons ?


IMHO i think all citizens and permanent residents of the Philippines must study only in Philippine school.

I am not anti-chinese but by allowing a certain group of our citizens, permanent residents, and TNT to have their own school is an affront to our sovereignty as a nation.

by allowing the chinese in the philippines to have their own chinese school only makes them to have double loyalty.

besides it is a kind of descriminations when in Newspaper's Classified Ads you can see that the requirements must be fluent in Cantonese, Hokkien, Mandarin, etc. It is one way of sayings that they prefer Chinese applicant or a Pinoy loyal to China.

In those mentioned Classified Ads it clearly shows their disregards of the Filipino feeling. They should have at least a decency not to make it public.

I have a chinese blood in both my paternal side and maternal side of our family, and I studied in a Philippine government school and I am not bashing the Chinese. However I find it unpatriotic to allow chinese school or other country's school in our sovereign country.

^^ Oh yes. That is nice snippet of FilChi history/saga then. I read somewhere in these threads before that there was a time that acquiring Philippine citizenship for Taiwanese then was "like gold".

o yes....it was like gold.....some changed their names to filipino surnames just to fake their citizenship....like I have a classmate in HS whose surname was Belo but wala naman silang filipino blood at all

i have a relative who is Garcia pero pure blood naman sila na chinese...

wondering if other countries like indonesia, vietnam, india, japan, malaysia, and countries in Europe, Asia, Africa and America allows chinese which seems to have their own autonomy. if only the Philippines is allowing it, what is the good reasons ?


IMHO i think all citizens and permanent residents of the Philippines must study only in Philippine school.

I am not anti-chinese but by allowing a certain group of our citizens, permanent residents, and TNT to have their own school is an affront to our sovereignty as a nation.

by allowing the chinese in the philippines to have their own chinese school only makes them to have double loyalty.

besides it is a kind of descriminations when in Newspaper's Classified Ads you can see that the requirements must be fluent in Cantonese, Hokkien, Mandarin, etc. It is one way of sayings that they prefer Chinese applicant or a Pinoy loyal to China.

In those mentioned Classified Ads it clearly shows their disregards of the Filipino feeling. They should have at least a decency not to make it public.

I have a chinese blood in both my paternal side and maternal side of our family, and I studied in a Philippine government school and I am not bashing the Chinese. However I find it unpatriotic to allow chinese school or other country's school in our sovereign country.

I think your statements are just signs of your ignorance about the truth

di ka ba nagbabasa sa usapan namin......chinese schools back then sing taiwan national anthem bec ayaw naman sila bigyan ng citizenship ng government.....so hindi nila kasalanan yun....it's the discriminatory act of the philippine government back then that caused that

plus.....do you even know what happens now in chinese schools? anung threat to our sovereignty....kalokohan yun....it's a bigot statement

ang with regards to classified ads.....hello knowing a different language is always a plus in commerce....di yung mga call center pala dapat pagbawalan mo na rin na sulatin nila na fluent in english is preferred

really.....I can't imagine being in a school uniform anymore....medyo nerdy itsura ko dati in HS....plus....matagal na yun....I won't fit through it anymore:) hehehe

really....summer camp for what event? dancing? ang alam ko nga discourage ang dancing sa grace....I guess times has changed

summer camp lang, may mga field trips and whatnots, more on religious stuff

Dati tandaan ko ICA is ICAA (Immaculate Conception Anglo-Chinese Academy) before. It used to have a campus in Intramurious that is now occupied by ICA Manila, but it's not under the MIC...

Danny Chua It's nice reading your experience from another school. What I regret the most is not taking my chinese classes until now because our school's chinese curriculum really sucks! our highschool chinese teachers cannot contain our class and teach Chinese in the same way english is taught. This year we also learned about the Chinese geography. Nothing went to my head because I couldn't understand a thing as our teacher didn't explain the places and the blahs

First Anglo-Chinese school? Tiong Se (Zhong Xi Xue Xiao) ^_^ hahaha thanks to google ^_^

Dati tandaan ko ICA is ICAA (Immaculate Conception Anglo-Chinese Academy) before. It used to have a campus in Intramurious that is now occupied by ICA Manila, but it's not under the MIC...

Danny Chua It's nice reading your experience from another school. What I regret the most is not taking my chinese classes until now because our school's chinese curriculum really sucks! our highschool chinese teachers cannot contain our class and teach Chinese in the same way english is taught. This year we also learned about the Chinese geography. Nothing went to my head because I couldn't understand a thing as our teacher didn't explain the places and the blahs

First Anglo-Chinese school? Tiong Se (Zhong Xi Xue Xiao), established in 1899. It is located at Meisic St., near 168 mall. My aunt used to be a principal there ^_^ hahaha thanks to google ^_^

IMHO i think all citizens and permanent residents of the Philippines must study only in Philippine school.


there's Japanese School, British School Manila and International School Manila all in Bonifacio Global City, Brent International School Pasig & Baguio, Reedley International School in Pasig plus quite a number of other international schools in and around the Makati area, Alabang, and all the way down south to Laguna... i doubt if Filipino is a required subject in these schools and yet if you check a lot of FILIPINO citizens send their children to study in those schools... this is a free country! while in the so called "chinese schools", if you read the previous posts, since the mid-1970's (that's all the way back 30 years ago) chinese is now only taught as a foreign language AND students studying in these schools are required to study FILIPINO... they're not "chinese schools" BUT rather Philippine schools that offer chinese language courses... i think many Filipino parents see the advantage of having their children learn foreign languages in addition to Filipino... case in point: Filipino politicos, civil servants and even military actually choose to send their sons to study in a Philippine school that offers chinese language courses - xavier.

I think your statements are just signs of your ignorance about the truth

di ka ba nagbabasa sa usapan namin......chinese schools back then sing taiwan national anthem bec ayaw naman sila bigyan ng citizenship ng government.....so hindi nila kasalanan yun....it's the discriminatory act of the philippine government back then that caused that

plus.....do you even know what happens now in chinese schools? anung threat to our sovereignty....kalokohan yun....it's a bigot statement

ang with regards to classified ads.....hello knowing a different language is always a plus in commerce....di yung mga call center pala dapat pagbawalan mo na rin na sulatin nila na fluent in english is preferred


maybe...
i am out of circulation for quite a long time..

there's Japanese School, British School Manila and International School Manila all in Bonifacio Global City, Brent International School Pasig & Baguio, Reedley International School in Pasig plus quite a number of other international schools in and around the Makati area, Alabang, and all the way down south to Laguna... i doubt if Filipino is a required subject in these schools and yet if you check a lot of FILIPINO citizens send their children to study in those schools... this is a free country! while in the so called "chinese schools", if you read the previous posts, since the mid-1970's (that's all the way back 30 years ago) chinese is now only taught as a foreign language AND students studying in these schools are required to study FILIPINO... they're not "chinese schools" BUT rather Philippine schools that offer chinese language courses... i think many Filipino parents see the advantage of having their children learn foreign languages in addition to Filipino... case in point: Filipino politicos, civil servants and even military actually choose to send their sons to study in a Philippine school that offers chinese language courses - xavier.

well,
i think i will make a further research on these subjects....

have a good day...

I graduated from grace....it's a very good school.....low profile lang sya at hindi masyadong publisized like xavier and ica....but i bet our graduates rival theirs in terms of a lot of things....maraming very good graduates too and sa UP nag-graduate

Maganda din ang Grace Christian High, your school as a very very good reputation in Math. ^_^, kami di masyado

there's Japanese School, British School Manila and International School Manila all in Bonifacio Global City, Brent International School Pasig & Baguio, Reedley International School in Pasig plus quite a number of other international schools in and around the Makati area, Alabang, and all the way down south to Laguna... i doubt if Filipino is a required subject in these schools and yet if you check a lot of FILIPINO citizens send their children to study in those schools... this is a free country! while in the so called "chinese schools", if you read the previous posts, since the mid-1970's (that's all the way back 30 years ago) chinese is now only taught as a foreign language AND students studying in these schools are required to study FILIPINO... they're not "chinese schools" BUT rather Philippine schools that offer chinese language courses... i think many Filipino parents see the advantage of having their children learn foreign languages in addition to Filipino... case in point: Filipino politicos, civil servants and even military actually choose to send their sons to study in a Philippine school that offers chinese language courses - xavier.

Your post is very sensible and right on the money. This is a free country and I guess every parent out there just has a different view on what's best for their children. As long as they want their children to have a bright future, they can choose whatever school they wish for them :)

^^ Oh yes. I heard about Grace Christian High, too.

There is also this Tsong Se ba yun? I wonder who that school was named after. That is also in Manila.

here are some pictures of ICA:

The highschool canteen
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9123/dsc02291da3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Highschool covered court
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4235/dsc04132lx6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Highschool classroom
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Grade six and seven classrooms and the bridgeway connecting them to the higschool department
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EDIT: don't mind the students lol

^^ Oh yes. I heard about Grace Christian High, too.

There is also this Tsong Se ba yun? I wonder who that school was named after. That is also in Manila.


o yes....that's the one beside 168.....duon nag graduate mom ko when she was in elementary.....medyo hindi nga lang sya big campus at sikat like other heavyweights like chiang kai, st. stephen, hope , pchs, grace, UNO and xavier/ica.....

there's Japanese School, British School Manila and International School Manila all in Bonifacio Global City, Brent International School Pasig & Baguio, Reedley International School in Pasig plus quite a number of other international schools in and around the Makati area, Alabang, and all the way down south to Laguna... i doubt if Filipino is a required subject in these schools and yet if you check a lot of FILIPINO citizens send their children to study in those schools... this is a free country! while in the so called "chinese schools", if you read the previous posts, since the mid-1970's (that's all the way back 30 years ago) chinese is now only taught as a foreign language AND students studying in these schools are required to study FILIPINO... they're not "chinese schools" BUT rather Philippine schools that offer chinese language courses... i think many Filipino parents see the advantage of having their children learn foreign languages in addition to Filipino... case in point: Filipino politicos, civil servants and even military actually choose to send their sons to study in a Philippine school that offers chinese language courses - xavier.

I couldn't have said it better....I agree

hey nice campus....are you the one at the 4th picture?

here are some pictures of ICA:

The highschool canteen
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Highschool covered court
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Highschool classroom
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http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6870/dsc04659gf8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Grade six and seven classrooms and the bridgeway connecting them to the higschool department
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/9851/dsc02314hz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

EDIT: don't mind the students lol

^^ nope hahaha that's just my classmate posting for the camera ^_^

here are some pictures of ICA:

The highschool canteen
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9123/dsc02291da3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Highschool covered court
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4235/dsc04132lx6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Highschool classroom
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7922/dsc04621qq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6870/dsc04659gf8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Grade six and seven classrooms and the bridgeway connecting them to the higschool department
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/9851/dsc02314hz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

EDIT: don't mind the students lol

ahehehe Ikaw yan Sista Di ba? yung naka pose?^^ Cute mo naman!aheheh

^^ nope hahaha that's just my classmate posting for the camera ^_^


i see sayang sana makapost rin ako from my alma mater kaya lang matagal na rin akong graduate there....way back 7 1/2 years ago....

^^ oo nga hehehehe. It would be nice to see you in highschool uniform too! ^_^. Try going back there, baka pwede naman ang alumni. I remember attending Summer Camp in Grace. It was fun, yet I'm not fond of the whole dancing crap and getting happy with the Christian songs..

I think your statements are just signs of your ignorance about the truth

di ka ba nagbabasa sa usapan namin......chinese schools back then sing taiwan national anthem bec ayaw naman sila bigyan ng citizenship ng government.....so hindi nila kasalanan yun....it's the discriminatory act of the philippine government back then that caused that

plus.....do you even know what happens now in chinese schools? anung threat to our sovereignty....kalokohan yun....it's a bigot statement

ang with regards to classified ads.....hello knowing a different language is always a plus in commerce....di yung mga call center pala dapat pagbawalan mo na rin na sulatin nila na fluent in english is preferred

Please write in English. Can't understand what you are saying. All major cities in the world have international schools. So why not in the Philippine?

^^ Oh yes. I heard about Grace Christian High, too.

There is also this Tsong Se ba yun? I wonder who that school was named after. That is also in Manila.


I think that Grace Christian School in Metro Manila is the most famous Chinese School there.

In Bacolod we have Trinity Christian school for the Protestant Christians, St. John's for the Roman Catholics, and Taytung High School for the traditional Chinese. Does all the major cities in the country have 3 separate Chinese schools to cater to different religions?

^^ Is that so? You mean Manila, not Metro Manila. I thought it was St. Jude Catholic School.

wondering if other countries like indonesia, vietnam, india, japan, malaysia, and countries in Europe, Asia, Africa and America allows chinese which seems to have their own autonomy. if only the Philippines is allowing it, what is the good reasons ?


IMHO i think all citizens and permanent residents of the Philippines must study only in Philippine school.

I am not anti-chinese but by allowing a certain group of our citizens, permanent residents, and TNT to have their own school is an affront to our sovereignty as a nation.

by allowing the chinese in the philippines to have their own chinese school only makes them to have double loyalty.

besides it is a kind of descriminations when in Newspaper's Classified Ads you can see that the requirements must be fluent in Cantonese, Hokkien, Mandarin, etc. It is one way of sayings that they prefer Chinese applicant or a Pinoy loyal to China.

In those mentioned Classified Ads it clearly shows their disregards of the Filipino feeling. They should have at least a decency not to make it public.

I have a chinese blood in both my paternal side and maternal side of our family, and I studied in a Philippine government school and I am not bashing the Chinese. However I find it unpatriotic to allow chinese school or other country's school in our sovereign country.

I don't think that the Chinese schools are acting in a discriminatory manner as someone has said that people of all races are welcome in Chinese schools. In Bacolod, Trinity Christian School is also the preferred school of expatriate families - well except for those who prefer to send their girls to St. Scholastica's. I went to Trinity in Kindergarten up to Grade to and again in High School. I had American, Filipino-Chinese, Spanish-Filipino, and Filipino classmates. We even had American teachers for several years in the 1980's. The only condition is that you must learn 3 languages - Tagalog, English, and Chinese. So your argument about Chinese schools is moot and biased.

On the other hand, I do know that the Philippine School in a Gulf country is discriminating against other Asians as they do not allow other Asians to gain admission. I had a Nepali friend who really wanted to send her children to the Philippines School - knowing that it offers good education and because they wanted to send their children to college here in the Philippines. The school administration just said no despite their appeals for reconsideration. Now, the children went to the British school instead and is now preparing to study in the UK.

^^ Is that so? You mean Manila, not Metro Manila. I thought it was St. Jude Catholic School.

Perhaps it is because I'm not Catholic.

my ex Gf is fil-Chinese napansin ko lang palagi kami sa Bahay nila guardyado kami paglalabas kami sa mall, always tanghali lang kami magdate never been na lumabas kami ng gabi.un aheheheh,mabait and malambing sya.good in math kasi may buisness sila

Please write in English. Can't understand what you are saying. All major cities in the world have international schools. So why not in the Philippine?

o sorry Bo b.....but we're on the same page....that's what I'm trying to say also

^^ Lol. Chinese schools pinag-uusapan... Pero sabi nila, tanghali rin daw manligaw ang Chinese. Lol. OT.

o sorry Bo b.....but we're on the same page....that's what I'm trying to say also

So what exactly was it you were saying?

^^ oo nga hehehehe. It would be nice to see you in highschool uniform too! ^_^. Try going back there, baka pwede naman ang alumni. I remember attending Summer Camp in Grace. It was fun, yet I'm not fond of the whole dancing crap and getting happy with the Christian songs..

really.....I can't imagine being in a school uniform anymore....medyo nerdy itsura ko dati in HS....plus....matagal na yun....I won't fit through it anymore:) hehehe

really....summer camp for what event? dancing? ang alam ko nga discourage ang dancing sa grace....I guess times has changed

So what exactly was it you were saying?

I was saying it's not they're fault that they have allegiance back then to taiwan cause the discrimatory practices of the philippine government back then.....they don't want to give them citizenship

I think that Grace Christian School in Metro Manila is the most famous Chinese School there.

In Bacolod we have Trinity Christian school for the Protestant Christians, St. John's for the Roman Catholics, and Taytung High School for the traditional Chinese. Does all the major cities in the country have 3 separate Chinese schools to cater to different religions?

now that you mentioned it, i always thought that chiang kai shek is non sectarian... but it's no biggie

Commercial Break yun ^^ ahehehe Syado na kasi seryoso topic na to ,di ba mandarin sa maga chinese sosi and fokien probinsyano? Hi LiLi:lol:

Commercial Break yun ^^ ahehehe Syado na kasi seryoso topic na to ,di ba mandarin sa maga chinese sosi and fokien probinsyano? Hi LiLi:lol:


mandarin is the national language... the equivalent of filipno here... hokkien (fookien) is a regional dialect... much like cebuano or ilocano... the impression that mandarin is sosi IMO comes from the fact that it's learned it school and as such only the educated speak it :)

I think that Grace Christian School in Metro Manila is the most famous Chinese School there.

In Bacolod we have Trinity Christian school for the Protestant Christians, St. John's for the Roman Catholics, and Taytung High School for the traditional Chinese. Does all the major cities in the country have 3 separate Chinese schools to cater to different religions?


Grace is indeed the most famous Protestant chinese school at Metro Manila....A lot of pastors, elders at different chinese protestant churches are graduate there....

In Metro Manila, here's the breakdown:

Protestant schools: Grace, Hope, St Stephen (Episcopalian), Jubilee, New Life at Global City, Makati Hope

Catholic schools: Xavier-ICA, St. Jude, San Lorenzo

Buddhist schools: Sakya, Phil Buddha Care

Non religious but traditional chinese schools: PCHS, ChiangKai, UNO, ChungHua, Pasay chunghua, PIQC, Yoklin, etc, etc

^^ Is that so? You mean Manila, not Metro Manila. I thought it was St. Jude Catholic School.

St Jude has a reputation of rigorous academics.....they say you can't survive there without a private tutor....plus, no offense, but among chinese, st jude has a reputation of nerds

I don't think that the Chinese schools are acting in a discriminatory manner as someone has said that people of all races are welcome in Chinese schools. In Bacolod, Trinity Christian School is also the preferred school of expatriate families - well except for those who prefer to send their girls to St. Scholastica's. I went to Trinity in Kindergarten up to Grade to and again in High School. I had American, Filipino-Chinese, Spanish-Filipino, and Filipino classmates. We even had American teachers for several years in the 1980's. The only condition is that you must learn 3 languages - Tagalog, English, and Chinese. So your argument about Chinese schools is moot and biased.

On the other hand, I do know that the Philippine School in a Gulf country is discriminating against other Asians as they do not allow other Asians to gain admission. I had a Nepali friend who really wanted to send her children to the Philippines School - knowing that it offers good education and because they wanted to send their children to college here in the Philippines. The school administration just said no despite their appeals for reconsideration. Now, the children went to the British school instead and is now preparing to study in the UK.

good for your nepali friend....poetic justice isn't it

^^ Lol. Chinese schools pinag-uusapan... Pero sabi nila, tanghali rin daw manligaw ang Chinese. Lol. OT.

i guess it's true kasi iba naman priority ng mga chinese....career first before obligations

now that you mentioned it, i always thought that chiang kai shek is non sectarian... but it's no biggie

It is non sectarian....and it is big, the biggest probably....in fact, until now, it is the only chinese school that I know which is a college....CKSC....Chiag Kai Shiek College full name nya...


My alma mater has recently established a college "Grace Christian College"

^^ Is that so? You mean Manila, not Metro Manila. I thought it was St. Jude Catholic School.

grace pala is in quezon city.....at Grace Village....

Tried to join yesterday but kept getting 'Database Error'. :mad:

Yeah I'm from Chiang Kai Shek too. Kinder through to High School.

There is no discrimination. We had some pure Filipino classmates besides the majority Tsinoys and the mestizos.

Our biggest gripe then was the longer hours as compared with kids from other schools. In the afternoons we could see them playing outside the window while we were still studying. Of course it wasn't until we had already grown up that we realized how it all pays off, and how our folks were right all along.

In my experience CKSC positively pwnz when it comes to Mandarin and Maths, but lags in English and the holistic approach. Back in my time discipline was also ridiculously strict with way too many things forbidden and our now-departed Gestapo-like disciplinarian (God bless her soul) being a major killjoy in our lives. Again, only after leaving the teen rebellious years did I become thankful for her, and realize what a noble and thankless task her job is.

As for accusations of being a political tool, I would like to dispense this tidbit of trivia. Through the years the Chinese half of the curriculum has been pared down more and more. In my parent's time they still had Chinese lessons in history, geography etc. By my time it was just 3 subjects: Mandarin, Math and a mish-mash subject 综合 where they teach common knowledge, general science, manners, some historical anecdotes and whatever. (I don't know anymore what the situation is today, suffice to say that education has become more and more commercialized.) So we got to know about the thousands of years of Chinese history, but nothing is taught about events after the 1911 Revolution that overthrew the Qing. It's as if time stopped after that. Now why is that? It's precisely because schools in the Philippines don't want to be accused to being political, or to get caught up in the whole China-Taiwan issue. Now me I was always very interested in history, and used to complain that both my English world history teacher and Chinese teacher weren't teaching me enough. The library and my uncle's encyclopedia set soon became a very good friend... (No internet yet then)

my ex Gf is fil-Chinese napansin ko lang palagi kami sa Bahay nila guardyado kami paglalabas kami sa mall, always tanghali lang kami magdate never been na lumabas kami ng gabi.un aheheheh,mabait and malambing sya.good in math kasi may buisness sila
You just described my first GF. Ganun din kami noon. Like I said somewhere else in this forum hanggang holding-hands lang kami. Patago pa. :lol:

Commercial Break yun ^^ ahehehe Syado na kasi seryoso topic na to ,di ba mandarin sa maga chinese sosi and fokien probinsyano? Hi LiLi:lol:
Not exactly a case of Mandarin being sosi but the Hokkien dialiect is indeed a very fringe dialect of Chinese. And it is the very fringes (Guangdong and Hokkien provinces) that has contributed the most to the overseas Chinese diaspora. You don't see too many overseas Chinese being from Szechuan or Anhwei or Hunan.

There was an experiment done on the internet here. The thread starter posted a sentence in standard Mandarin and then people from different provinces of China would translate it into their own dialect and then post it in writing using standard Chinese characters. As you go farther and farther away from Beijing some slang words start to creep in, but the overall sentence is still quite similar. Henan? Xian? About 70% still similar. When you get to say Harbin or Szechuan or Guizhou things start to sound and read tricky, but 50% of the sentence is still understable even to a non-native speaker. By the time you reach places like Shanghai the entire sentence structure is already different. For example the term 我 (meanining me) that used to be represented as a single character and read as a single sound in all previous dialects becomes 啊啦 (read "ahla") now. :crazy:

It gets worse with Cantonese. The same sentence translated into Cantonese then written down can only be read in Cantonese to make sense. If you try to read it into your own dialect or into Mandarin it becomes gibberish. Terms like 咁样，呢度，点解，even 快D啦 are enough to make a Mandarin reader go insane: "I can read all the words but I can't make sense of them!" :nuts:

But wait, you haven't seen Hokkien. There are terms and sounds in Hokkien that don't even have a Chinese equivalent. ("B" and "G" sounds like in English for instance) And so half the sentence has to be written using Pinyin, and yet should not be read as Pinyin but as Roman letters instead. :lol: Goes to show how "fringe" we Fujian descendants are.

TRIVIA :

What is the oldest Anglo-Chinese School in The Philippines?

^^ can we do this hangman style? how many letters? :lol:

Not exactly a case of Mandarin being sosi but the Hokkien dialiect is indeed a very fringe dialect of Chinese. And it is the very fringes (Guangdong and Hokkien provinces) that has contributed the most to the overseas Chinese diaspora. You don't see too many overseas Chinese being from Szechuan or Anhwei or Hunan.

There was an experiment done on the internet here. The thread starter posted a sentence in standard Mandarin and then people from different provinces of China would translate it into their own dialect and then post it in writing using standard Chinese characters. As you go farther and farther away from Beijing some slang words start to creep in, but the overall sentence is still quite similar. Henan? Xian? About 70% still similar. When you get to say Harbin or Szechuan or Guizhou things start to sound and read tricky, but 50% of the sentence is still understable even to a non-native speaker. By the time you reach places like Shanghai the entire sentence structure is already different. For example the term 我 (meanining me) that used to be represented as a single character and read as a single sound in all previous dialects becomes 啊啦 (read "ahla") now. :crazy:

It gets worse with Cantonese. The same sentence translated into Cantonese then written down can only be read in Cantonese to make sense. If you try to read it into your own dialect or into Mandarin it becomes gibberish. Terms like 咁样，呢度，点解，even 快D啦 are enough to make a Mandarin reader go insane: "I can read all the words but I can't make sense of them!" :nuts:

But wait, you haven't seen Hokkien. There are terms and sounds in Hokkien that don't even have a Chinese equivalent. ("B" and "G" sounds like in English for instance) And so half the sentence has to be written using Pinyin, and yet should not be read as Pinyin but as Roman letters instead. :lol: Goes to show how "fringe" we Fujian descendants are.

Wow! speechless ako ahehehe well explained,^^

oldest anglo chinese academy: Tiong Se academy right at meisic St. near 168 mall ^_^ courtesy of google :D

pag mag aaral ka ba sa chinese school kelangan ba may chinese blood ka?


may classmate ako from ICA.. wala lang... gaganda nila.. :D

^^ I have mentioned that Tsong Se before but it seems FilChis keep on overlooking that one.

BTW, here in NY Chinatown, there are Chinese that speak like they are angry, always shouting. I wonder what dialect/language is that?

pag mag aaral ka ba sa chinese school kelangan ba may chinese blood ka?


may classmate ako from ICA.. wala lang... gaganda nila.. :D

Read the previous threads Renz. It was explained already.

^^ previous threads? uhmm.. where?

here in Naga City we also have Naga Hope Christian School, a fil-chinese protestant school and St. Joseph School. The school uniform of the boys in Naga hope is very "nerd". It's because their polo shirt are tucked in. I don't know if it is a must to always tuck in their uniform.