Well What is it?

- To have the advantages of north america without the problems of USA
- To respect nature and people

wow thats sounds pretty good. did you ever live here?

to play hockey, eat beaver tails, and comment on the weather.

...to watch sap drip out of maple trees into buckets and comment on it in two languages (French and English).

To have the sophistication of Europe, the pop culture of the USA, the frontier adventurism of Australia, and the climate of The Caribbean.

To build igloos and sit on ice floats with polar bears.

Success, prosperity and happiness in one of the best countries in the world!

:)

As a nation, to live a modest, yet proud existence.

That, and to live in a country with a ridiculous area/population ratio. All of that vast open country shadows the psyche of any Canadian.

And oddly enough, in complete contradiction to my first point.... to absolutely dominate hockey worldwide, thoroughly and completely.

:)

oh, and NYC007 was pretty close to an essential truth about Canadians, though he/she may not have realized it.

The American dream + being nice.

Collect maple syrup, make collages out of maple leaves and shake hands with beavers.

an american work visa :jk:

Drink Molson Canadian all day and wrestle with beavers... :okay:

Drink Molson Canadian all day and wrestle with beavers... :okay:

only Americans drink Molson Canadian ;)

To have the sophistication of Europe, the pop culture of the USA, the frontier adventurism of Australia, and the climate of The Caribbean.
As long as enough global warming happens, at least one of those things will come true.

Probably similar to the American dream, except without anyone having to lose.

5 degrees in Febuary.

lower taxes... *sigh*

The American dream + being nice.

:applause: :gossip:

as well as, well spoken and not stupid

5 degrees in Febuary.


lol, so true! t-shirt and shorts weather.

5 degrees in Febuary.

Haha go to Victoria or Vancouver and you will get 15 if your lucky. 5 if its on the cold side...The Canadian dream is to make it to SW BC! Much like the American dream is to make it to the promise land of California! (On top of the 2.5 kids, picket white fence..yada yada)

Weather Stats for February 2005

Notice the Min Temps, Snow on Ground, and Rainfall Categories.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/vancitypics/van_feb_2005.jpg

Damn you Vancouver and your Palm trees!!!!!

The Canadian dream is America :)


(hope no one has made this joke yet)

Haha go to Victoria or Vancouver and you will get 15 if your lucky. 5 if its on the cold side...The Canadian dream is to make it to SW BC! Much like the American dream is to make it to the promise land of California! (On top of the 2.5 kids, picket white fence..yada yada)

Weather Stats for February 2005

Notice the Min Temps, Snow on Ground, and Rainfall Categories.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/vancitypics/van_feb_2005.jpg

First of all that is not warm, second of all that is only one year. Retired Canadian's in Ontario go to one place and that is Florida, SW BC is uh...not on the radar.

The Canadian dream is America :)


(hope no one has made this joke yet)

was it you who made the bad joke in that other thread....? If so, you gotta stop soon, cause they're not funny.

To have a quiet, peaceful, middle class existance until our mid 80s, then die peacefully in our sleep. :)

First of all that is not warm, second of all that is only one year. Retired Canadian's in Ontario go to one place and that is Florida, SW BC is uh...not on the radar.
Even stilll man, for winter?

Vancouver is sweet. You always see on the Weather Network how their flowers are blooming in February/March. Even this winter it made national news that temps were below zero, and that there was snow!

First of all that is not warm, second of all that is only one year. Retired Canadian's in Ontario go to one place and that is Florida, SW BC is uh...not on the radar.

uhm, actually, SW BC is on the radar. There's a lot of ex-Ontarians living in their humble adobes in Vancouver Island, the Lower Mainland, and to a lesser degree, Okanagan. ;) It's no mystery why there are a lot of Leaf fans over in Vancouver.. too many I say! Go Canucks!

[QUOTE=Westcoast604]Haha go to Victoria or Vancouver and you will get 15 if your lucky. 5 if its on the cold side...The Canadian dream is to make it to SW BC! Much like the American dream is to make it to the promise land of California! (On top of the 2.5 kids, picket white fence..yada yada)

Nah, if I moved to Vancouver I would need to wear a sweater during summer.

Besides my Canadian dream has something to do with living abroad while being able to access the Canadian social system. Really, who wants to live in a place that gets any cooler than 25C.

The Canadian dream is America :)


(hope no one has made this joke yet)
bRAIN dRaIn

Im saying the Canadian dream is the make $$$ just like in America. Many people, including myself may have dreams that involve more then just money. But in general that is what people want. We live in a captilistic society right?

To have a lot of money and live in a condominium in downtown Toronto?

First of all that is not warm, second of all that is only one year. Retired Canadian's in Ontario go to one place and that is Florida, SW BC is uh...not on the radar.

First of all, the purpose of me posting Vancouver weather statistics for February was in response to the statement:
"The Canadian dream is for 5 degrees celcius in February."

I found that quite comical since it is almost always above 5 degrees here in February so it is certainly not my Canadian dream.

Second of all, that is how the temps are every year, not just 2005.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/vancitypics/van_feb_2004.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/vancitypics/van_feb_2003.jpg

I don't think I need to bother going on to prove my point there...

Also, SW BC is a haven for retired Canadians who want a milder climate but don't want to leave the country.

to say BC is not on the Radar is not very accurate . I met quite a few people this summer from all over Ont. & they all seemed to love it here .
the Canada dream...

The Climate of BC , the Economy of Alberta , Political power of Ont. , with the culture of quebec and the friendly people of Atlantic Canada .

Vancouver IS warmer during the winter, but it rains ALOT. Not an ideal destination.

Someone said the Canadian dream is the American Dream... but what is the American Dream? It is about being the "land of oppurtunity" and I tihnk that describes Canada very well too.

Vancouver IS warmer during the winter, but it rains ALOT. Not an ideal destination.


Refer to the total precipitation column for each month. It really doesn't rain that much, overcast is common.

Health, Wealth, good lives for our offspring, recognition, and to pay high taxes! :)

To play in the NHL!

A Canadian man's dream:

Smoke pot, marry another man, get hit by a bus and make other people pay for it.

The Canadian dream is to make it to SW BC!
How could I forget, I'm livin it, life is good; don't mention the homeless.

Refer to the total precipitation column for each month. It really doesn't rain that much, overcast is common.

Yeah, I'm looking at it and I see Vancouver has rainy days for more than half the month. Considering where Vancouver is located this is not surprising and I'm not sure how can even deny it. But I guess the advantage of rain in Vancouver is that you don't have to shovel snow, which can be a real pain. The Canadian dream is not to have to shovel snow!

Get Drunk Watch Hockey, Get Drunk and Party, Get Drunk Go Camping.

First of all that is not warm, second of all that is only one year. Retired Canadian's in Ontario go to one place and that is Florida, SW BC is uh...not on the radar.

First its a hell of a lot warmer then Toronto.

And your second point is not true at all. I have (old people) relatives from back east who move to Victoria in the winter, and they say that they meet lots of people from Toronto, Montreal and Winnipeg.

Yeah, I'm looking at it and I see Vancouver has rainy days for more than half the month. Considering where Vancouver is located this is not surprising and I'm not sure how can even deny it. But I guess the advantage of rain in Vancouver is that you don't have to shovel snow, which can be a real pain. The Canadian dream is not to have to shovel snow!

What??? Speak for yourself.

I like shovelling snow. I love snow. A winter without lots of snow would absolutely suck ass. What would be the point of Winter without snow?

^ In Vancouver you can get as much snow when ever you want just head for the hills (15min away from downtown), and you can enjoy the best skiing in N/A 1.5hrs away in Whistler.

^ In Vancouver you can get as much snow when ever you want just head for the hills (15min away from downtown), and you can enjoy the best skiing in N/A 1.5hrs away in Whistler.

I don't ski though.

I find that snow makes everything look nicer, particularly in the city... and I'm drawn to mother natures temper tantrums, such as blizzards, excessive snow on the ground, and whatnot. It's exciting.

Here's the Canadian Dream: school/work cancelled by a snow day... woo hoo!

What??? Speak for yourself.

I like shovelling snow. I love snow. A winter without lots of snow would absolutely suck ass. What would be the point of Winter without snow?

Okay when a winter storm hits I'll have a shovel hanging at the side of my place waiting for you to shovel it.

It's 23 Oskee Wee Wee Drive btw :D

^ funny guy

please not another BC vs everyone thread..

Hmm, how about: to live in a society that is almost, but not quite, as greedy and competitive as it is socialist and friendly?

Or to get baked, marry someone of the same sex, and get an abortion for free?

(edit: crap, someone's said that already)



Or two words: Tim Horton's.

What??? Speak for yourself.

I like shovelling snow. I love snow. A winter without lots of snow would absolutely suck ass. What would be the point of Winter without snow?

I was just kidding, I like snow too, but I don't like shovelling it which is why I would never buy a house. And yeah, snow days are awesome!

Lol! You southerners and your snow days...:rofl:

All through school we NEVER had a snow day :(... There were times when the city busses weren't completely running because of blizzards and such... but we were still expected to be at school. They just excused lates for the 1st and 2nd periods.

- To move to California or some place with palm trees, beaches and warm weather...that's my dream, and I'm a Canadian :D

^Bleh, I prefer cold weather :) Hot weather is nice, but I can only take it for so long.

The Canadian dream:

http://www.damnfunnypictures.com/images/Canadian_Beer_Fridge.jpg
http://www.asw.cz/vb03-06.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1820000/images/_1821298_canadafans300.jpg
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/special/thegames/saltlake/visuals/photo/images/photo-day-Feb24.jpg
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/85988/2/Canadian_money__3.jpg
http://www.beehivehockey.com/images/history_images/timhorton_donuts.jpg
http://fanclubshania.free.fr/Shania_Twain/maxim/shania-maximcover.jpg
http://www.rockymountaingourmetsteaks.com/photoalbum/Outdoor/pictures/Valley%20high%20in%20The%20Bob%20Marshall%20Wilderness.jpg

and lastly... ;)

http://www.geocities.com/tbartolacci/beercans/can01324.jpg

Do they still sell the Bubba anymore?

Shania has an awesome set of babylons

Alberta's finest natural resource export yet:

http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/5787/ecmaxim2ik.jpg

http://elisha.primenova.com/cw/mar04maxim2.jpg

^^I grew up watching PMK... my how she's changed

http://elisha.primenova.com/max/pmk_s1.jpg

- To move to California or some place with palm trees, beaches and warm weather...that's my dream, and I'm a Canadian :D


I'LL SECOND THAT :cheers:

To never loose sight of our principles of Equality, Freedom and Rights.

Where can you find a kid from the ghetto's go to top secondary institution??

My buddy is from Regent Park goes to Uoft with me,

Where can you find a Serb/Bosnian, Pakistani/Indian, Arab/Jews, live in peace side by side?

MY STREET!!

we fuc.k.ing kick ass!! and we better not loose our beautifull tolerant progressive society!!

To never loose sight of our principles of Equality, Freedom and Rights.

Where can you find a kid from the ghetto's go to top secondary institution??

My buddy is from Regent Park goes to Uoft with me,

Where can you find a Serb/Bosnian, Pakistani/Indian, Arab/Jews, live in peace side by side?

MY STREET!!

we fuc.k.ing kick ass!! and we better not loose our beautifull tolerant progressive society!!
Yeah right. unless cold weather numbs their minds

Yeah right. unless cold weather numbs their minds
:cheer: Yah well skiing is always good in winter times. :cheer:

Do they still sell the Bubba anymore?

http://www.geocities.com/tbartolacci/beercans/can01324.jpg
Is it gone?

I haven't seen an Ad since the 2003/04 hockey season and I haven't seen any in stores since iv been legal.

Thats so Awsome.
http://www.damnfunnypictures.com/images/Canadian_Beer_Fridge.jpghttp://www.media-awareness.ca/english/resources/educational/overheads/alcohol/images/cherry2.jpg

:cheer: Yah well skiing is always good in winter times. :cheer:
I just have hard time believing that it is so multi-culture especially in Canada

I just have hard time believing that it is so multi-culture especially in Canada

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHA


That's Good for you and whatever problems you have in comprehending the day to day life over here, but all that is your problem not ours.

Urban life in Canada is as Multicultural as it gets.

I just have hard time believing that it is so multi-culture especially in Canada

I feel bad for you not being able to believe something that is such a large part of Canada. IMO the best thing about this country is its diversity!

Damn you Vancouver and your Palm trees!!!!!

Some tress growing in Seattle (2 hours south of Vancouver), and do grow here too...but they tend to be larger down there as they are 1 zone higher for hardiness.

http://www.hardypalm.com/photos/seattle2005/32300624-L.jpg

http://www.hardypalm.com/photos/seattle2005/32300629-M.jpg

There are a few of these growing at English Bay, but they were just planted in the last 5 years so their not very big yet. Maybe one day they will grow to something of this size and boost Vancouver's palm tree/paradise of Canada image even more.

I just have hard time believing that it is so multi-culture especially in Canada

then come up here and see for yourself.

Or read a newspaper, or get out of the house... Canada is known for multiculturalism. We invented the word. Playing dumb won't get you far here.

What's a Snow Day ?

Just a little BC humor .

The Canadian Dream:

To download music, legally, along with movies and high quality porn.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Canada as multicultural as it gets? Give me a break. If you really believe Toronto is as multicultural as NYC, then you really need to get out of Canada and visit New York.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Canada as multicultural as it gets? Give me a break. If you really believe Toronto is as multicultural as NYC, then you really need to get out of Canada and visit New York.

That's what you'd like think. Toronto is recognized globally at THE most diverse major city in North America if not the world. Vancouver and Montreal are not far behind.

Who told you that?

Vancouver is way behind Toronto in multiculturalism. That's not to say that it isn't multicultural.

As far as Toronto being the most multicultural in the world, it's definitely possible. New York is diverse, but I find Toronto to be moreso. Considering 51% of Torontonians weren't even born in Canada, this should give a pretty good idea.

All you have to do is check out both cities, NYC and TO, on Wikipedia to see who's more multicultural. Among several other factors, NYC is home to the UN. And the non-white (visible minority) population is higher in NYC than in TO. New York City is one of the world's global cities, home to an almost unrivaled collection of world-class museums, galleries, performance venues, media outlets, international corporations, and stock exchanges. The city is also home to all of the international embassies to the United Nations, itself headquartered in New York City.

And this is a direct quote, "New York is widely regarded as the intellectual and cultural capital of the world."

I would argue, however, that both Paris and London (cities I have visited on several occasions) are more multicultural, or global, than NYC. And Toronto may be on the list, but it is certainly not at the top of it. And I know, by the way, that I am going to lose this debate in a Canadian Forum...but I thought you all should know that no matter how self congratulatory you all are, not everyone else agrees with you.

All you have to do is check out both cities, NYC and TO, on Wikipedia to see who's more multicultural. Among several other factors, NYC is home to the UN. And the non-white (visible minority) population is higher in NYC than in TO. New York City is one of the world's global cities, home to an almost unrivaled collection of world-class museums, galleries, performance venues, media outlets, international corporations, and stock exchanges. The city is also home to all of the international embassies to the United Nations, itself headquartered in New York City.

And this is a direct quote, "New York is widely regarded as the intellectual and cultural capital of the world."

I would argue, however, that both Paris and London (cities I have visited on several occasions) are more multicultural, or global, than NYC. And Toronto may be on the list, but it is certainly not at the top of it. And I know, by the way, that I am going to lose this debate in a Canadian Forum...but I thought you all should know that no matter how self congratulatory you all are, not everyone else agrees with you.


You seem to be getting mulicultural confused with cosmopolitain.

All you have to do is check out both cities, NYC and TO, on Wikipedia to see who's more multicultural. Among several other factors, NYC is home to the UN. And the non-white (visible minority) population is higher in NYC than in TO.
Having a higher non-white population does not constitute multiculturalism. What ethnic groups, and how many varieties, make up the non-whites is most important.
The city is also home to all of the international embassies to the United Nations, itself headquartered in New York City.
It might also be interesting to note that the U.S and Britain drew up the plans for the United Nations off the coast of Newfoundland on a Destroyer shortly after WWII. In other words, the U.S (and Britain) was the founder of the UN!

I'm not getting anything confused, as you say. But if you think TO is less cosmopolitan than NYC, then you're entitled to your opinion.

Also, what makes up the "white" community counts towards multiculturalism. Toronto has a wide range of european cultures represented.

Because race is a factor when considering culture, or "multiculturalism." It could be argued that there are greater cultural differences between people from different continents than people from different countries within the same continent (Europe, in this example).

That's what you'd like think. Toronto is recognized globally at THE most diverse major city in North America if not the world. Vancouver and Montreal are not far behind.
Toronto is the most diverse major city in the world according to all main tourists guides.

All you have to do is check out both cities, NYC and TO, on Wikipedia to see who's more multicultural. Among several other factors, NYC is home to the UN. And the non-white (visible minority) population is higher in NYC than in TO. New York City is one of the world's global cities, home to an almost unrivaled collection of world-class museums, galleries, performance venues, media outlets, international corporations, and stock exchanges. The city is also home to all of the international embassies to the United Nations, itself headquartered in New York City.

And this is a direct quote, "New York is widely regarded as the intellectual and cultural capital of the world."

I would argue, however, that both Paris and London (cities I have visited on several occasions) are more multicultural, or global, than NYC. And Toronto may be on the list, but it is certainly not at the top of it. And I know, by the way, that I am going to lose this debate in a Canadian Forum...but I thought you all should know that no matter how self congratulatory you all are, not everyone else agrees with you.

NY is so much larger than Toronto...that's why the non-white population is bigger....if Toronto had the same population as NY...Toronto would blow NY away....

All you have to do is check out both cities, NYC and TO, on Wikipedia to see who's more multicultural. .

I seriously hope you don't go around quoting Wikipedia.

You have a valid argument. Just remember though that 27% of NYC's population is latino.

Ahem, anyone want to get back to the topic of the "Canadian Dream" or would you rather continue making pathetic comparisons between TO and NYC? I was just expressing my opinion that NYC feels a hell of a lot more diverse than Toronto. They're both great cities; don't get me wrong. I lived in NYC for many years, and now that I live close to TO, I go there a couple times a month. Therefore, it's an informed opinion, and I am not just guessing or supposing. It's stupid to fight over the titles of "Most Diverse" or "Most Multicultural" or "Most Cosmopolitan" because the criteria upon which to judge are all subjective. Fact is that NYC has a long history of welcoming immigrants from all over the world, and that's why we have symbolic landmarks like Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor. I am sure there are such things in Totonto that symbolize diversity and multiculturalism as well--I just can't name any. But that shouldn't be surprising when most Americans (or non Canadians) can't even name the Prime Minister of Canada.

If you're not interested in making comparisons between Toronto and NYC, why do you continue to do it?

Just something to think about...

Great. Just because your a passive vistor to Toronto doesn't mean 'you know' Toronto.

I never said that I know all there is to know about Toronto. I was speaking to the way it feels TO ME. And the reason I made the comparison was to qualify the statements I had made previously...because, as expected, everyone jumped all over my shit for daring to say in this forum that Toronto is not the world's greatest city. I'm sorry, I just find that assertion too absurd to let it pass. I suppose I should have just laughed my ass off and kept it to myself. I forgot there is no room for dissent in this forum. So just carry on blowing each other, and forget I said anything. If it makes you feel better, here, I'll join in and throw you a bone:

There never has been, nor shall there ever be, any city as fair or as magnificent as Toronto.

^ Look you obviously have some severe issues with Toronto, you are the person who brought the city up

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Canada as multicultural as it gets? Give me a break. If you really believe Toronto is as multicultural as NYC, then you really need to get out of Canada and visit New York.

You've really jumped to conclusions there....Canada being multicultural = Toronto being more multicultural than New York.

Your problem, not ours.

^^watch out he'll put a boot in your ass because it is the american way. America is a meltingpot(more a salad bowl) and canada is actually multi-culture.

I am sure there are such things in Totonto that symbolize diversity and multiculturalism as well--I just can't name any. But that shouldn't be surprising when most Americans (or non Canadians) can't even name the Prime Minister of Canada.
Just because you can't name something iconic in Toronto that resembles its diversity does not mean it doesn't have a lot of multicultural aspects to offer. You don't experience a city's level of multiculturalism through the CN Tower, the Statue of Liberty, the Eiffel Tower, or the London Bridge. Those things are iconic in a whole differenct aspect.

Walking through the streets of Chinatown, little Italy etc are what make it unique. It's kind of cool driving up Spadina when you go through a set of lights and the next thing you know, EVERYTHING and EVERYONE is Chinese. It's even more interesting to see the other ethnicities strolling down Spadina in Chinatown. Whether they be Caucasion (local or European), Muslim, or African, it's quite a remarkable sight really. That is multiculturalism.

But that shouldn't be surprising when most Americans (or non Canadians) can't even name the Prime Minister of Canada.
Ignorance is a bitch like that.

^^watch out he'll put a boot in your ass because it is the american way. America is a meltingpot(more a salad bowl) and canada is actually multi-culture.

I would shut ur trap...because all that America does is "follow the lead"...and you have know idea what Canadian's do to Americans who have no respect...Canada is more multicultural because it is simply better here so don't come in here and run of your mouth...New York has many nice areas...but at the same time...I have never seen more run-down areas in any other city...

Just for the record...I would SLAP up anyone who makes fun of my country...and i will make you look stupid if you make fun of Toronto

You know, it's real funny that whenever Canada has something to be proud of...Americans are right there trying to take it away from us...and it's always either people from Chicago or New York....the rest of the Americans are nice people

It's stupid to fight over the titles of "Most Diverse" or "Most Multicultural" or "Most Cosmopolitan" because the criteria upon which to judge are all subjective.

Yet you state with such confidence that NYC is far more multicultural than Toronto.

back to the 'visible minority' thing...

Trust an American to tell you that his/her city is more multicultural because it has more 'coloured' people in it. What a farce. The colour of your skin does not equate to culture. Yes, the US has many more blacks and latinos than Canada. Yet, for example, that doesn't stop Toronto from hosting NA's largest Carribean festival. Think about it, that's quite the feat for a cold city that's a whole USA away from the Islands. The sum is greater than it's parts in Toronto.

Multiculturalism isn't worth much if it doesn't work anyways. NYC aside, allow me to be a prick and point out that I can count on both my fingers and toes race riots in various American cities, yet not one significant riot in Canada (consider the word significant as me allowing a .1% margin of error in my claim). Race riots that even continue to this day. Somewhere in this fact, I believe, lies a significant difference between Canada and the US, a difference that characterizes a good part of the 'Canadian Dream'.

you can take that and blow it, NYC007. It's on me my friend.

^Owned.

I would shut ur trap...because all that America does is "follow the lead"...and you have know idea what Canadian's do to Americans who have no respect...Canada is more multicultural because it is simply better here so don't come in here and run of your mouth...New York has many nice areas...but at the same time...I have never seen more run-down areas in any other city...
I'm confused, I was making a reference to a jingoistic toby keith song. I felt he was being rude with his comments, and I was trying to make allusion with his comments and the song. I do agree that canada is more multi-culture. Which I have my own opinions about that, but I don't want to shit up your thread. You must concur that america uses more of a meltingpot paradigm.

^^ I think he misinterpreted what you said, it diffenetly wasn't anti-Canada.

The Canadian Dream, much like the Amercian Dream, is not a collective agreement by any means, as we can see from the responses to this thread alone! Everyone has differing opinions and goals in life so I don't think any one dream can be applicable to a country or group of citizens as a whole. My take on the "Dream" is that it is simply the ideal life which society considers sucessful. If you get a good job, married, have 2.5 kids, a dog, house in the burbs, and take vacations once a year...essentially to North American standards you are living the dream. But in reality, I doubt a lot of people actually want to achieve this in their lives, I know I certainly don't. The Canadian/Amercian dream is like a carrot dangling in front of a rabbit, to keep you moving forward through capitalist society till you get to your goal of happiness, which has basically been installed in your mind of what a sucessful and ideal citizen should be like. Keep on working harder, longer, and maybe just maybe, you will get ahead some more and be one step closer to the dream. Very few get to a point where they are truly happy, so in my opinion the whole Canadian/American dream ideology is nonsense.

What is the Canadian Dream?

To see the Habs win a 25th Stanley Cup! Yeah baby!!!2009 will be our year!!!

^^
Westcoast, you make a good point. I would argue that the fact that everyone in Canada has different 'dreams'/ goals that they strive to reach is part of the collective Canadian Dream. That is everyone is able to pursue their own personal happiness and satisfaction in life, regardless of what it is (except for those which fall outside the law of course). I've often been of the idea that this is also what is meant to be Canadian. We don't need a full on collective identity other than what it says on our citizenship. It is our differences that make us the same in a way. Just my :2cents: , cheesy as it is.

NYC aside, allow me to be a prick and point out that I can count on both my fingers and toes race riots in various American cities, yet not one significant riot in CanadaUnless you count English Vs. French. And even then, I can't really think of any in recent history, except the October Crisis if that even counts as a riot.
I guess there were the Red River ones like 100 years ago as well.

Canada is more multicultural because it is simply better here so don't come in here and run of your mouth...Ahhh I wouldn't let your guard down like that when it comes to subjectivity. (for the record I don't entirely disagree with you)

NYC aside, allow me to be a prick and point out that I can count on both my fingers and toes race riots in various American cities, yet not one significant riot in Canada (consider the word significant as me allowing a .1% margin of error in my claim). Race riots that even continue to this day.
I mainly know Vancouver's history, and its probably a bit rockier than most places in Canada when it comes to race relations. There were certainly two significant riots in 1887 against Chinese, and 1907 against Chinatown and Japantown (when it existed - a number of Japanese packed up for Steveston in Richmond, Japan, or otherwise dispersed). And more recently, though not a riot, wartime Japanese internment.

Although Canada's race record is probably a bit better than the US's, it's certainly not clean, and we can't forget that. The biggest current issue might be racism toward First Nations people.

I should also mention the head tax and various other legislation directed against Chinese, as opposed to earlier legislation that encouraged European immigrants (i.e. Homestead Act). Also, there were the horrific work conditions Chinese workers on Canada's national railway were subjected to.

Honestly Im just scared shitless that the Xenophobic attitudes down south will creep up here. I dont know if its just me or others but my little trip to Guelph wasn't too assuring or comfortable for a brown person, was stared down quite a bit. Apart from that Its still the same old Multicultural Open Canada that i'm ready to sacrifice a lot for. .. Well maybe depends if i get the salary i want after Grad school hehe.

I mainly know Vancouver's history, and its probably a bit rockier than most places in Canada when it comes to race relations. There were certainly two significant riots in 1887 against Chinese, and 1907 against Chinatown and Japantown (when it existed - a number of Japanese packed up for Steveston in Richmond, Japan, or otherwise dispersed). And more recently, though not a riot, wartime Japanese internment.

Although Canada's race record is probably a bit better than the US's, it's certainly not clean, and we can't forget that. The biggest current issue might be racism toward First Nations people.

There was a small riot in Toronto in the thirties involving a baseball game with a Jewish team.

Though you're blowing the hell out of my point, you're right in that we shouldn't pretend that there is no racism in Canada.... it's a modest, down-to-earth disclaimer.

However, you can't say that Canada's record is a 'bit' better. Race relations in the US is downright embarrasing, and Canadians should either feel damn proud, or damn lucky (depending on who you talk to) in comparison. In the past hundred years alone, there have been race riots in Newark, Detroit, East St. Louis, Atlanta, Omaha, Tulsa, Chicago, Cleveland... multiple riots in Los Angeles, and the most recent being in Cincinnati in 2001. There is zero comparison in this regard... the difference is as stark as black and white, if you'll excuse the pun.

What's a Snow Day ?

Just a little BC humor .


What are you talking about. If the road is at all white there is no going anywhere, city shuts down and its the top news story for a couple days.

Once it snowed late in the day while I was at school in Vancouver and they let us go early. It took me 4hrs to bus home to White Rock, normaly it takes less then an hour.

Honestly Im just scared shitless that the Xenophobic attitudes down south will creep up here. I dont know if its just me or others but my little trip to Guelph wasn't too assuring or comfortable for a brown person, was stared down quite a bit. Apart from that Its still the same old Multicultural Open Canada that i'm ready to sacrifice a lot for. .. Well maybe depends if i get the salary i want after Grad school hehe.
Well liking productive minorities over non one's isn't ecactly multi-culture Enlightenment, just my two cents not trying to flame

Well liking productive minorities over non one's isn't ecactly multi-culture Enlightenment, just my two cents not trying to flame


Would you like to clarify that, i have no clue what you just said in reference to my quote over there.

I understand you're making the point that americans are xenophobic towards immigrants, and especially the ones that want to keep their cultural identity. You don't want to see that type of thought becoming more mainstream in Canada. I'm just saying there is a giant dark side of multiculturalism. It seems to me that culture diversity is is great when the said ethnic group is hard working and entrepreneurial, but if the other said group is perceived as lazy and or depending on entitlements they need to conform their culture. I just

In the past hundred years alone, there have been race riots in Newark, Detroit, East St. Louis, Atlanta, Omaha, Tulsa, Chicago, Cleveland... multiple riots in Los Angeles, and the most recent being in Cincinnati in 2001.
Would the riot that occurred last week classify as a race riot?

However, you can't say that Canada's record is a 'bit' better. Race relations in the US is downright embarrasing, and Canadians should either feel damn proud, or damn lucky (depending on who you talk to) in comparison.
I suppose. I think you probably still have a point on a per capita basis.

Another major incident in Vancouver I neglected to mention was in 1914, when the ship Kamagata Maru bringing hundreds from India was turned back for basically racist reasons. That led to a riot when they arrived in India, where 20 passengers were killed by the British.

I guess the fact that you can count the number of major racist incidents in Canada on one's fingers and toes is one thing, but there are countless more minor incidents, and it's an ongoing problem. We shouldn't be looking at the US as a benchmark for our success at resolving it.

I guess the fact that you can count the number of major racist incidents in Canada on one's fingers and toes is one thing, but there are countless more minor incidents, and it's an ongoing problem. We shouldn't be looking at the US as a benchmark for our success at resolving it.

I agree... racism shouldn't exist at all ideally, but I suppose it will always exist. It's healthy to point out that racism in Canada does persist in rural areas to a degree, no different than in the US, or basically any part of the world.