Saudi Arabia's First Cinema

[vc15nets]

SAUDI ARABIA: CARTOONS ONLY IN KINGDOM'S FIRST CINEMA

Riyadh, 17 Oct. (AKI) - Cinema screenings are to begin again in Saudi Arabia after around two decades, but will only feature cartoons for women and children. The first films to be shown are due to be screened at the InterContinental Hotel in the capital Riyadh during the Eid al-Fitr holiday, starting November 3, Saudi newspaper Asharq al-Awsat reports.

The 1,200 seat cinema will hold three one hour screenings of foreign cartoons dubbed into Arabic every evening, starting at 4pm, 10pm and 11pm, said Kamal al-Khateeb, head of the media committee at Riyadh's Municipality. Cinema tickets will cost ten Saudi riyals each (around 2.7 dollars).

The organisers estimate that more than 50,000 people will visit the cinema during the two week Eid al-Fitr holiday, which marks the end of Ramadan. The screenings are being seen as a first step towards the reinstating of cinemas around Saudi Arabia, as cafes in many of the kingdom's main cities already show films, sports games and video clips on large television screens.

In the 1960s and 70s, there were many cinemas in Saudi Arabia, showing uncensored Egyptian, American, Turkish and Indian films. However, the country went on to become more devoutly religious, partly due to the seige of the Grand Mosque in Mecca by extremists in 1979, and Saudi society become "more religiously sensitive to different issues."

Since then, the only films screened in the Kingdom have been from people's private collections, or those shown in the American or European embassies. It is not even clear if the elimination of cinemas from the country was a government policy or due to the oppressive influence of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice.

[shayan]

arent there any cinemas yet!!! well hopefully there will come some nother cinemas they dont know what they are missing out on

[Skoulikimou]

i think ksa on the right track ,good news ;)

[Gilgamesh]

Well, Good news...I guess...

[Moody]

arent there any cinemas yet!!! well hopefully there will come some nother cinemas they dont know what they are missing out on

This is how Bahrain Cinemas Make fortunes out of big segment of our Saudi brothers who arrive to bahrain just for watching a movie or couple in the week end and national hoildays.

[Moody]

i think ksa on the right track ,good news ;)


Yep, but they should take it to the next stage, i mean Cartoons? for god's sake..

[Skoulikimou]

then i guess this must be a bad news for Bahrain :sleepy:

[Moody]

If saudi is going to show western movies then our cinema's have no choice but Porn... hehe poor ppl.

[oogabooga]

:uh: :no:

What exactly is it that people in Saudi Arabia do to kill their time? I have lived in Saudi Arabia and I know that the local television gives the word "dull" a whole new meaning. You cant go to malls, there are no clubs so then what is it that they indulge in to kill their time?

[Moody]

But still you can have fun in Saudi.. not much but its better than few around us!

[B-Patriot]

If saudi is going to show western movies then our cinema's have no choice but Porn... hehe poor ppl.

Hahahahaha, that was funny...I wouldn't say our cenimas rely on Saudis...We'd still do quite well without them...But during the weekends its crazy, Saudi families come whole and watching 2 or 3 movies in one day..!

Even if they start showing western movies, our cenimas are top notch...It'd be hard for them to really compete, even with them being in their own country...At least thats how i see it...Lately we've been getting certain movies even before the US itself (due to the time difference, lol)...Like Star Wars, War of the Worlds and some others...We have good cenimas, generally speedy and good quality...Big screens...Some small, but we got enough big ones, with what should be huge ones in the new soon to open (in like 18 months?) Bahrain city centre...The largest megaplex in the region...Bahrain Cenima company even runs the cenima in the Doha city centre...

[Bahraini Spirit]

Well the only cinema in Saudi is in Aramco but that one shows movies that are around a year old or so, so no point really.

[B-Patriot]

And its not even that good...And only ppl who live or work in Aramco can go there, so its not exactly open to public...

[BigDreamer]

OMG i cant imagin this... first cinema in KSA @@ wtf... i didnt even think that there is a place on this planet that didnt have a cinima like 20 years back let alone in this millinium..

[shayan]

yes i was shocked to but you need to consider that they have a nother culture..... We have to repect that....

[Bahraini Spirit]

And its not even that good...And only ppl who live or work in Aramco can go there, so its not exactly open to public...

Officially it's a cinema. Well, Bahrain is the winner in this situation, we get lots of money because of this.

[source26]

Yes but its cartoons only and no men allowed only woman and children,
well since they culturaly live quiet close to this they might as well show.. The Flinstones!!

[shayan]

woehahahahaha That's funny

[vc15nets]

:uh: :no:

What exactly is it that people in Saudi Arabia do to kill their time? I have lived in Saudi Arabia and I know that the local television gives the word "dull" a whole new meaning. You cant go to malls, there are no clubs so then what is it that they indulge in to kill their time?

There is a lot to do in Saudi. There are many malls, social events, and loads of tv channels. The weird thing is that satillite TV shows everything but there arent any cinemas except for the one in aramco. People who work in aramco can go there and can also invite friends.

This might be bad news for bahrain because loads of people from Saudi Arabia went to Bahrain to watch movies. I'm one of them too. Obviously, when these people went to bahrain to catch a movie, they would also spend money in bahrani shops and restaurants. But I think that saudi wont get proper movie cinemas in a while and I'm sure they will only show like PG and G movies.

[shayan]

Why is it prohibited??

[oogabooga]

Yes but its cartoons only and no men allowed only woman and children,
well since they culturaly live quiet close to this they might as well show.. The Flinstones!!

They might find Wilma and Betty's skirts too vulgar :sly:

[smussuw]

well well

look who is here talking about modernizing :lol:

[B-Patriot]

They might find Wilma and Betty's skirts too vulgar :sly:

HAHAHHAHAHAAHA, OMG.... :hilarious Its funny, because it could easily be true!
:rofl:

[Gilgamesh]

lol! :hahaha:

[Dubai_Boy]

Halle berry looked good in the flinstones , i think looking at her truley imbalanced my hormones at the time !

[Badbakht]

Dubai_boy is always horny anyway. Looking at his own photos even turns him on. People like that shouldn't be allowed to watch movies in the first place.

[Qatar4Ever]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
hehehehehehehehehehhehehehehehehehehehehe



Anyways, things are changing in KSA. Slowly but surely. ppl need to understand that there are different cultures in the world, no matter how stupied or silly we might think some stuff in any particular culture is.

I heard there will be one in Khobbar.

[Dubai_Boy]

Looking at his own photos even turns me on


OH i am flattered :D my phone number is available if your interested :D

[prsn41ife]

its really funny, the western countries always critiscise iran for being backward and but it is 100 times better than KSA. i never knew KSA was this far behind in terms of individual rights. hopefully things will change even more

[smussuw]

ur totally wrong.

[prsn41ife]

^^^in what way?

[shayan]

i m with you one this one prsn4life But not every country develops on the same speed we sould give one a nother time they will come to the cilvil world eventualy

[Gilgamesh]

^^ What do you mean by the civil world :?

[*UofT*]

i m with you one this one prsn4life But not every country develops on the same speed we sould give one a nother time they will come to the cilvil world eventualy


WTF??!! how many of you fools have been to Saudi Arabia to know what the society is like??

civility ??, IRAN A 100 TIMES BETTER WTF.. LOLLZZ HAHAHAHA

what are you guys high on some good hash??

Saudi living standards wipe the floor when it comes to Iran. There are literally hundreds of malls across Saudi Arabia with products and goods from around the world. Its so easy to get your hands on Guess, Armani, and other designer wear.

Resteraunts, Malls, Beaches, Night Life are awsome in Saudi. When you have enough cash to do as you wish why not>??

please before i hear another persian claiming Saudi is backward and how Iran is a 100 times better think over how much richer Saudi is compared to your country!. PLUS SAUDI DOES NOT HAVE AN AHMADINJAD!!

The average Saudi Citizen is ROLLING!!, dont be fooled by the GDP per capita figures that take into consideration low end labour workers from Asia.

I've got cousins in Saudi that are Saudi Citizens I know how they live and how happy they are!, When they come to Canada they MISS SAUDI!!

ALL A PERSON HAS TO DO IS GO TO THE NUMEROUS MALLS AND SHOPPING DISTRICTS IN RIYADH OR JEDDAH AND COMPARE IT TO TEHRAN....

Not even basic infrastructure comes anywhere close to Saudis!! honestly! what are u guys thinking??

Look at the Cars on the streets of Riyadh and compare it to the Cars in Tehran..HAHAH WTF.. where do these people come from??

Saudi Doesn't need you or your pity they are happy with the oil wealth they have thank you very much.

[Gilgamesh]

Uoft loves to start fight's based on his own generalizations.

[*UofT*]

Uoft loves to start fight's based on his own generalizations.


If you can't objectively answer my post don't induce anything about me, thank you.

[Gilgamesh]

If you can't objectively answer my post don't induce anything about me, thank you.


I'd rather not get involved in this...

however Im more than happy to point out your generalizations and provocations:

WTF??!! how many of you fools have been to Saudi Arabia to know what the society is like??

civility ??, IRAN A 100 TIMES BETTER WTF.. LOLLZZ HAHAHAHA

what are you guys high on some good hash??

Saudi living standards wipe the floor when it comes to Iran. There are literally hundreds of malls across Saudi Arabia with products and goods from around the world. Its so easy to get your hands on Guess, Armani, and other designer wear.

Resteraunts, Malls, Beaches, Night Life are awsome in Saudi. When you have enough cash to do as you wish why not>??

please before i hear another persian claiming Saudi is backward and how Iran is a 100 times better think over how much richer Saudi is compared to your country!. PLUS SAUDI DOES NOT HAVE AN AHMADINJAD!!

The average Saudi Citizen is ROLLING!!, dont be fooled by the GDP per capita figures that take into consideration low end labour workers from Asia.

I've got cousins in Saudi that are Saudi Citizens I know how they live and how happy they are!, When they come to Canada they MISS SAUDI!!

ALL A PERSON HAS TO DO IS GO TO THE NUMEROUS MALLS AND SHOPPING DISTRICTS IN RIYADH OR JEDDAH AND COMPARE IT TO TEHRAN....

Not even basic infrastructure comes anywhere close to Saudis!! honestly! what are u guys thinking??

Look at the Cars on the streets of Riyadh and compare it to the Cars in Tehran..HAHAH WTF.. where do these people come from??

Saudi Doesn't need you or your pity they are happy with the oil wealth they have thank you very much.

...Objectivitly?

[*UofT*]

Yet you can't see the generalizations in this 2 page thread about Saudi??!!

Read what persian4life and shayan have said. Do i need to show them to you or do you have enough of objectivity to highlight their posts as well?

And by the way Hash and Ahmadinejad are factual issues in your country not generalizations!

[shayan]

well i would want to live in povery and see my wife independant than have all the money in the world and see my wife being eppresed by some guy who can do what ever he wants to here if she doesnt listens to him. Iran is backward and we are like two times as poor as you people are but atleast we have our dignety something is worth more than whole the world we didnt became what we are by ass kissing of the westerners. And if it upsets you what we where saying why are you putting it back on our plate?? I mean you insult us to make your stance and your stance arent build on anything... Well have you ever went to tehran.. I guess you havent. But i wont take revange by posting pictures of iran of how good it is and stuff because i know i wont convince you. You know why because i dont feel like i have to proof anything to you. You feel like you have to proof saudi arabias goodness do your thing boy...

[Gilgamesh]

Yet you can't see the generalizations in this 2 page thread about Saudi??!!

Read what persian4life and shayan have said. Do i need to show them to you or do you have enough of objectivity to highlight their posts as well?



That's true, I saw Shayan's post where he said Saudi isn't civilized and I don't agree with him. But other than that I didn't see anyone else post any childish generalization or provocation.

[*UofT*]

well i would want to live in povery and see my wife independant than have all the money in the world and see my wife being eppresed by some guy who can do what ever he wants to here if she doesnt listens to him. Iran is backward and we are like two times as poor as you people are but atleast we have our dignety something is worth more than whole the world be didnt became what we are by ass kissing of the westerners. And if it upsets you what we where saying why are you putting it back on our plate?? I mean you insult us to make your stance and your stance arent build on anything... Well have you ever went to tehran.. I guess you havent. But i wont take revange by posting pictures of iran of how good it is and stuff because i know i wont convince you. You know why because i dont feel like i have to proof anything to you. You feel like you have to proof saudi arabias goodness do your thing boy...


What part of Ethnocentrism and cultural differences U DONT GET??

In Islam there are concepts of Ghair Mehram that the Saudi society has conserved, along with other muslim societies..

At the end of the day in Saudi there are Female Schools, Hospital ward sections and ALL FEMALE RESTERAUNTS in which they can do as they please.

I dont want to hear anymore of this, I grew up in Canada yet i still understand Saudi, your from Iran and are caught up with statistics and csmonitor that are biased subjectively with western sources!.

Why don't you go ask a Saudi Female how she enjoys her life??

Do you have any clue as to how many persian/shia friends i have that visit Shiraz, Tehran and Isfahan every summer??, do you really think I dont like Iran??

I know the wealth disparities between saudi and iran, I also understand when your women dont want to wear the hijab and still show portions of their hair in public.

See but i understand you dont get jack about Saudi!

[shayan]

Well in my point of few civilistation is findable in rights thats why they call rights most of the time CIVIL rights. And every civil country has to have civil rights something that saudi arabia doesnt have. Im not saying that iran has the best civil rights. WE DONT but we are much more civil on that front than they are in Saudi arbia and THe uae and bahrein are in front of us on these manners

[*UofT*]

Well in my point of few civilistation is findable in rights thats why they call rights most of the time CIVIL rights. And every civil country has to have civil rights something that saudi arabia doesnt have. Im not saying that iran has the best civil rights. WE DONT but we are much more civil on that front than they are in Saudi arbia and THe uae and bahrein are in front of us on these manners


U still don't get cultural differences this is amazing.

P.s My uncle has lived in Tehran and Shiraz back in the 70's i know more about Iran than you could imagine.

[smussuw]

Shayan the civil rights ur asking for are considered sins in our socities. so, no one is asking for them.

[*UofT*]

Shayan the civil rights ur asking for are considered sins in our socities. so, no one is asking for them.


Don't bother, apparently the Saudi Youth are in tears over the talibanistic regime they have over there in Riyadh...

Hold on let me try to sponsor my cousins to come to Canada, I think they aren't happy as it is in Jeddah and Riyadh. :ohno:

I can't believe its so hard for some people to understand where Islam is coming from and how a lot of muslims think.

I dont even have buddies in Canada who question the way of life in Saudi!!

[smussuw]

It is true that many saudis arent happy with their regime.

The reason isnt because it is kinda talibanic. It is the oppisite. The reason why they are mad is because their regime is America's puppet and have double standerds treating the Islamic issues and of course corruption.

They cliam to be an Islamic country with Islamic system yet, they have non Islamic banks and allow foreigner to have alcohol.

bottom line, Saudis are way more stricts than their government in the Islamic issues.

[*UofT*]

It is true that many saudis arent happy with their regime.

The reason isnt because it is kinda talibanic. It is the oppisite. The reason why they are mad is because their regime is America's puppet and have double standerds treating the Islamic issues and of course corruption.

They cliam to be an Islamic country with Islamic system yet, they have non Islamic banks and allow foreigner to have alcohol.

bottom line, Saudis are way more stricts than their government in the Islamic issues.

Its true, Corruption also bothers them sometimes, however wealth doesn't seem to be an issue with my cousins.. They are all driving Lexus's for the love of God.. and are very young.

But I'd have to agree with this claim of yours smussuw

[smussuw]

^ Actually corruption and unemployment is a big issue there. They dont live a lavish life like the Emirati for example. They always compare themselves to the Emirati in those issues. They see how developed the UAE turned to comparing to their country. That is why they started questioning themselves about their government.

One more thing, Saudi arabia has a reasonanle piece of poor people.

The problem they are having with their regime is political and economical. They dont have any problems with cultural and religious issues.

[*UofT*]

^ Actually corruption and unemployment is a big issue there. They are improving there.

The problem they are having with their regime is political and economical. They dont have any problems with cultural and religious issues.


If you are educated well, you wont have problems finding a job in Saudi. My cousins tell me majority of Saudis that claim of Unemployment are only educated for a couple years in secondary education and don't even have degress of sorts but expect to become Mudeers of companies. ...

[smussuw]

many saudis have high school certificate but couldnt find jobs in a country that hosts 7 million expats.

They arent happy with that.

anyway check my edited post up.

[NorthStar77]

well i would want to live in povery and see my wife independant than have all the money in the world and see my wife being eppresed by some guy who can do what ever he wants to here if she doesnt listens to him.

:applause:

http://www.vg.no/bilder/edrum/1129708832877_859.jpg
Those who thinks the rights of women in Saudi-Arabia is okay, can answer me what happened when Rania al-Baz told the world that she had been almost beaten to death by her husband.

[Shayan_m]

@ UoFT

Did u know that cars in Iran are way more expensive than in KSA ????

[Shayan_m]

:applause:

http://www.vg.no/bilder/edrum/1129708832877_859.jpg
Those who thinks the rights of women in Saudi-Arabia is okay, can answer me what happened when Rania al-Baz told the world that she had been almost beaten to death by her husband.

Dude ,shit happens ! even in europe or eslewhere !

[*UofT*]

many saudis have high school certificate but couldnt find jobs in a country that hosts 7 million expats.

They arent happy with that.

anyway check my edited post up.

Its actually even more than 7 million there are an estimated 2 million illegal migrants that stay over after Hajj.

As for the poor in Saudi, it varies city to city.

The locals in Riyadh, Jeddah, Khobbar, Dammam and suburbs such as Hay Al Fawaz near Makkah are wealthy. The locals in Taif, Jizan,Makkah, Madina and other smaller cities are pretty bitter about their situation. It really depends how you define lavish. My cousins live very lavishly and there are Saudis i've seen even worse than some Asian Expats..., however to be honest the country does have 21 million Locals. Saudi Can be a lot more wealthy I agree they have a TRILLION dollars invested in the US alone, had they invested a Trillion dollars in Saudi the cities would of been incredible. But overall though with free access to healthcare and education its a pretty comfortable living.

[*UofT*]

:applause:

http://www.vg.no/bilder/edrum/1129708832877_859.jpg
Those who thinks the rights of women in Saudi-Arabia is okay, can answer me what happened when Rania al-Baz told the world that she had been almost beaten to death by her husband.


Like this shit doesn't happen in Norway, Ireland or even Toronto??

What you think that is the result of every female in Saudi or the Middle East??

What kind of ethnocentric attitude do you live by day to day??..

thanks, for the Propagandist invasion of this thread a very honourable work indeed my scandinavian friend.

[smussuw]

^ Saudi Females had a meeting with an American female offcials.

They complianed about how biased the western media is. They have said that they are happy with their way of living and no one have the right to talk about it.

[*UofT*]

@ UoFT

Did u know that cars are way more expensive than in KSA ????

Bro, please visit Saudi!!, you'll be amazed at what they drive!!.

The only place in Toronto that comes close to the kind of cars Saudis drive is Markham at peak office rush hour traffic in which all the directors of companies and controllers Roll out with Beamers and Mercs.

[Shayan_m]

Screw the western media !

[NorthStar77]

Like this shit doesn't happen in Norway, Ireland or even Toronto??


People are exposed to violence everywhere, but you didn't answer my question. Our community doesn't condemn a person that goes public with his/her story of beeing exposed to violence.

[*UofT*]

People are exposed to violence everywhere, but you didn't answer my question. Our community doesn't condemn a person that goes public with his/her story of beeing exposed to violence.


And exactly who opposed to her going public with her personal life??, listen buddy your better off in admiring your water falls in norway, eating swedish meet balls and using a finish nokia phone in scandinavia. If you dont understand propaganda (by the way your an extension of it on this thread) its not our problem.

[smussuw]

here we go

Saudi women depart from the script
By Steven R. Weisman The New York Times

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 2005

JIDDA Facing a restless college audience of nearly 500 Saudi women - teachers, students and professionals, but all covered in black from head to foot - Karen Hughes tentatively broached the topic of equal rights on Tuesday, expressing hope that one day "women will be able to fully participate in society."

But the response to the Bush administration's top "public diplomacy" envoy on her first trip to the Middle East seemed to take her aback, as several listeners complained vehemently that just because they were not allowed to vote or drive did not mean they were unfairly treated or imprisoned in their homes.

"We're not in any way barred from talking to the other sex," said Dr. Nada Jambi, a public health professor. "It's not an absolute wall."

Another charged that just as Saudi men were viewed unfairly as terrorists, Saudi women were seen unfairly as victims. "The general image of the Arab women is that she isn't happy," she said. "Well, we're all pretty happy." The room resounded with applause.

The session at Dar al-Hekmah College provided an unusual departure from the antiseptic and seemingly scripted events in her tour to try to change the image of the United States in the Muslim world and to listen to criticism of American policies.

"I would be glad to go back to the United States and talk about the Arab women I've met," said Hughes, under secretary of state for public diplomacy and a longtime communications aide to President George W. Bush.

Hughes has churned through meetings, first in Egypt and Tuesday in Saudi Arabia, in which she has tirelessly introduced herself as "a mom," explained that Americans are people of faith and called for more cultural and educational exchanges. Her efforts to explain policies in Iraq and the Middle East have been polite and cautious.

As a visiting dignitary, she had audiences in the summer palaces of this Red Sea coastal city with King Abdullah, Crown Prince Sultan and Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal. But mostly it was a day underscoring the uneasy Saudi-American relationship, fed by unsavory images the two countries have of each other.

Only last December, there was an armed attack on the American Consulate in Jidda, leaving five dead, which meant that the Americans traveling with Hughes were cautioned against traveling alone in the city.

At the meeting with Saudi women, television crews were barred and male and female reporters were segregated from each other. American officials said it was highly unusual for men to be allowed in the hall at all.

A meeting with leading editors, all male, featured more familiar complaints about what several said were American biases against the Palestinians, the incarceration of Muslims at Guantánamo Bay and the alleged U.S. stereotype of Saudis as religious fanatics and extremists after Sept. 11, 2001.

Hughes responded by reminding listeners that Bush had supported the establishment of a Palestinian state and asserting that Guantánamo prisoners had been visited by the International Red Cross and retained the right to worship with their own Korans.

Americans, she countered at one point, were beginning to understand Islam better but had been disappointed that some Muslim leaders had been "reticent" at first in criticizing the Sept. 11 attacks. "Now several years later, we're beginning to hear other voices," she said.

But it was the meeting with the women that was the most unpredictable, as Hughes found herself on the defensive simply by saying that she hoped women would be able to vote in future elections, as they were not in municipal elections this year.

In June, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice talked of democracy and freedom in the Middle East but declined to address the question of driving. By contrast, Hughes spoke personally, saying that driving a car is "an important part of my freedom."

Several women said later that Americans fail to understand that their traditional society is embraced by men and women alike.

"There is more male chauvinism in my profession in Europe and America than in my country," said Dr. Siddiqa Kamal, an obstetrician and gynecologist who runs her own hospital. "I don't want to drive a car. I worked hard for my medical degree. Why do I need a driver's license?"

Hughes appeared to have left a favorable impression. "She's open to people's opinions," said Nour al-Sabbagh, a 21-year-old student learning to be a special education teacher. "She's trying to understand."

[smussuw]

Hughes Faces Female Wrath in Turkey, S. Arabia

http://www.islamonline.org/English/News/2005-09/29/images/pic02.jpg

Hughes was grilled by Saudi women, who blamed the US media for portraying Muslims as terrorists and Arab women as downtrodden. (Reuters)

On Tuesday, Hughes was grilled by Saudi women, who blamed the US media for portraying Muslims as terrorists and Arab women as downtrodden.

"Why is the general image of the Arab woman that she isn't very happy?

We are happy," one young student had said during the encounter.

Arab Women Happier

In a meeting with the US envoy, Saudi women blamed the US media of being disingenuous in portraying Arab women as unhappy and wronged. "We are happy. We want to show that image (but) the general image of the Arab woman in the American media is that she is not happy," a female student at Jeddah's private Dar Al-Hekma university told Hughes, drawing thunderous applause from colleagues.

"Your media is not really as fair as it used to be," came another voice from among the crowd of Saudi women who gathered in an amphitheater on Tuesday to "exchange" views with the American visitor.

Saudi women who met Hughes stressed that they had had enough of being portrayed as deprived of any rights.


"I don't want to drive, because I have my own driver," one of them defiantly told American journalists.

Women in Saudi Arabia are not allowed to drive cars or to mix in public with men other than relatives.

"But it is not an absolute wall between men and women," one of the students insisted, as another grabbed the microphone to wonder why US media tar all Muslims with the terrorism brush.

Impressed

Hughes, on her part, was keen to tell her Saudi audience that the United States "should not seek to impose our will on Saudi Arabia".

She also hailed reports that women would be allowed to work in Saudi Arabia, where only a limited number of professions are currently open to them.

The US envoy further stressed that she had been "surprised" by what she heard but also "impressed by their (the girls') outspokenness and intelligence."

"They clearly feel much a part of the debate in the society even though they don't have the right to vote nor to drive," she said.

During talks with Saudi officials, Hughes commended the Saudi efforts to fight what she termed "terrorism".

In her meeting with Egyptian students Sunday, September 25, Hughes faced angry queries over the US war on terror, Iraq, aggressive stance on Syria and Iran, in addition to meddling in the affairs of developing countries.

[NorthStar77]

And exactly who opposed to her going public with her personal life??, listen buddy your better off in admiring your water falls in norway, eating swedish meet balls and using a finish nokia phone in scandinavia. If you dont understand propaganda (by the way your an extension of it on this thread) its not our problem.

The source is here (http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=108490) (in Norwegian). It's an article related to a show held at our state TV channel on sunday, collecting tens of millions to improve human rights for females all over the world.

She has lost her job, because the TV-station thought it would be too provoking to have her on the screen again in a society where half the population is not allowed to drive a car, don't have the right to vote, move freely, not get a passport without her husbands permission etc.

You are right, I'm much more comfortable in Scandinavia. I will never understand the way Saudis think. It's therefore no point for me to enter a debate here. Just as it is no point for you to join a debate in the Scandinavian forum, because you don't understand Scandinavians.

[Shayan_m]

Bro, please visit Saudi!!, you'll be amazed at what they drive!!.

The only place in Toronto that comes close to the kind of cars Saudis drive is Markham at peak office rush hour traffic in which all the directors of companies and controllers Roll out with Beamers and Mercs.

Dude, I know what they're drivn at ! :)

[smussuw]

She has lost her job, because the TV-station thought it would be too provoking to have her on the screen again in a society where half the population is not allowed to drive a car, don't have the right to vote, move freely, not get a passport without her husbands permission etc.

u really need to read the two articles Ive posted up.

[*UofT*]

You are right, I'm much more comfortable in Scandinavia. I will never understand the way Saudis think. It's therefore no point for me to enter a debate here. Just as it is no point for you to join a debate in the Scandinavian forum, because you don't understand Scandinavians.


I'm an Arrogant Canadian and I really don't care what you folks do up there in Scandinavia, I debated in the Denmark thread because of its "Islam bashing", We weren't bashing your skinny dipping brothers in Oslo now were we??.

Really I dont care about Scandinavia, its just not anything we dont already have in Canada. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[NorthStar77]

Skinny? People up here are more obese than ever unfortunately:lol:

[*UofT*]

Skinny? People up here are more obese than ever unfortunately:lol:

Skinny Dipping as in Nude Beaches..., but i thought europe didn't have an obesity problem wasn't it only isolated to north america?

[NorthStar77]

Unfortunately not, it is worse in North America, but Europe is closing the gap.

[*UofT*]

Unfortunately not, it is worse in North America, but Europe is closing the gap.


This thread is no longer about Riyadh's Cinema anymore... :lol:

[NorthStar77]

lol, true. Sorry for ruining the thread folks(really)

[*UofT*]

lol, true. Sorry for ruining the thread folks(really)


No worries happens all the time in almost every thread off topic discussion is actually real discussion in these forums, By the way is there Famous Players in Saudi?? or actually i should of asked if there are any plans for a Famous Players??

[ZOHAR]

omg...saudia 2005 now!!!!!

[vc15nets]

You have to go to Saudi and see for yourself how special and unique the country is. I was born there and everytime I leave the country, I miss it terrible. The rights problem in saudi isnt that bad. I was watching CNN and they were showing a documentry on Saudi women. The saudi women on the documentary said that they were happy because they had drivers, maids and loads of other services for themselves and if they got their freedom, then they would have to work. What is better, doing the work for yourself or having someone do it for you? Women in other parts of the world would tell you that having less freedom but having all those services is like paradise. In other parts of the world, women are used as sex symbols, wether directly or indirectly (a commercial, etc).

Saudi has great malls, flashy cars, a great nightlife, awesome restaurants, and a high level of development. People think that Saudi isnt developed enough but if you compare it with other gulf states it has been developed earlier. I remember going to Dubai in 1995 and Dubai was crap. Everyone who went with me said that Saudi is ten times better but now obviously Dubai is better because they have had a couple of development booms. The same thing with Bahrain. A couple of years ago, it was no way near the development in Saudi but now it might have taken the lead. Keep in mind that saudi streches across a vast penninsula and they have many cities/ settlements to develop. This is unlike the rest of the gulf, where all the development is in one city or area. Saudi also doesnt need high rise buildings because they dont have many banks or other sort of buisnesses that usually run in a CBD. All of their economy is based around oil and the offices of oil companies are usually in the industrial areas. They have done a lot of development such as roads, railway, destilation plants, built two new cities, expanded the holy mosques, etc.

So Saudi is not like the media portrays it and saudi is way better than iran (sorry fellas but just compare the pictures if you havent been there).

[ZOHAR]

what is great nightlife for them?

[shayan]

well dude what ever I'm happy that i'll never will live in saudi arabia.

I didnt say that iran is better in a economic point of few its like twice as bad but in a social point of few we are much ahead of saudi arabia. No iranians don't own big cars and they dont go on a foreign trip every year but atleast they have some rights. Atleast a woman can separate from here husband if she isnt happy alteast she has independants if she wants to. atleast she will be able to have a propper education. Atleast her views will be respected by others. Atleast she can say something to a man if she doesnt agree with than person. Atleast she can walk the streets by her own! Atleast she can participate in every sport if she wants to. Atleast she can go to the cinema on here own go shopping on her own go running in the park on here own. Take part of a marathon. Drive cars. Sing. Design fashion. Wear make up. Wear a rugsack if she wants to. Atleast she can become a minister in the parlement atleast she can vote!!!

[vc15nets]

For them and other muslims, nightlife IS NOT getting drunk and dancing all night long at clubs or hookin up with unknown people who might have STDs. Nightlife is a time when one goes out shopping, has dinner with his family in some of the best restaruants in the world, goes to a social event, which is more fun than what others consider "nightlife". I have lived in a lot of countries and I know how boring it is outside of saudi. People in other parts of the world come home from work at like 7 and all the shops close at like 5. In saudi, people come home from work at around 4 and all the shops open at like 5 or 6 and stay open till like 2 in the morning, no matter what day of the week it is.

[Gilgamesh]

For them and other muslims, nightlife IS NOT getting drunk and dancing all night long at clubs or hookin up with unknown people who might have STDs.

Then why do so many of them go to Bahrain? :D

[vc15nets]

shayan:

There is no need to vote in saudi because saudi is a monarachy so the voting part has no significance. Women in saudi do go out on their own and have their own drivers. Where else on earth do middle class women have drivers? The health clubs in saudi allow women to participate in sports during a certain time usually from 8 am to 4pm. And guess what, they have a free bus service too. Where else on earth do you get this? Your concern about women walkin alone on streets and in parks has no significance. No one wants to walk on Saudi sidewalks in 40 degrees celcius. Thats what those luxury cars and drivers are for. Women can separate for their husbands if they want to. Saudi women dont carry rugsacks because their maids carry them for them.

When the respect for views is concerned, then their views are respected because they are happy this way so nothing is changed which shows that their views are being respected.

There is no fashion or music industry in saudi arabia so women dont sing or design clothes. Saudi women do wear makeup. Who told you they didnt?

And if women want to run in a marathon, they can go to bahrain because there are no marathons in saudi arabia.

Again, saudi isnt the way the western media portrays it.

[vc15nets]

Then why do so many of them go to Bahrain? :D

Some people dont follow their religion. The statment I made was a general statement and I was not sayin that all saudis dont drink.

[NorthStar77]

Okay I couldn't keep out of this thread anyway.

When the respect for views is concerned, then their views are respected because they are happy this way so nothing is changed which shows that their views are being respected.

This is exactly the part I don't get. So as long as their views are the same as their husbands, they respected for having that view? Do all woman think alike? Are all woman happy? Don't you think there are any women out there that wants some sort of change? What if there is one woman that wants to drive herself, even considering the convenience of having a driver?

[ZOHAR]

well dude what ever I'm happy that i'll never will live in saudi arabia.

I didnt say that iran is better in a economic point of few its like twice as bad but in a social point of few we are much ahead of saudi arabia. No iranians don't own big cars and they dont go on a foreign trip every year but atleast they have some rights. Atleast a woman can separate from here husband if she isnt happy alteast she has independants if she wants to. atleast she will be able to have a propper education. Atleast her views will be respected by others. Atleast she can say something to a man if she doesnt agree with than person. Atleast she can walk the streets by her own! Atleast she can participate in every sport if she wants to. Atleast she can go to the cinema on here own go shopping on her own go running in the park on here own. Take part of a marathon. Drive cars. Sing. Design fashion. Wear make up. Wear a rugsack if she wants to. Atleast she can become a minister in the parlement atleast she can vote!!!

in Israel shops open till 22:00

[smussuw]

Then why do so many of them go to Bahrain? :D
because there are corrupted fruits every where :)

Atleast a woman can separate from here husband if she isnt happy alteast she has independants if she wants to. atleast she will be able to have a propper education. Atleast her views will be respected by others. Atleast she can say something to a man if she doesnt agree with than person.
Who told this myth that she women doesnt have that in the gulf countries or in Saudi Arabia in particular?

Atleast she can walk the streets by her own! Atleast she can participate in every sport if she wants to. Atleast she can go to the cinema on here own go shopping on her own go running in the park on here own. Take part of a marathon.
Those are things I totally dissagree with. If she wants to participate in every sport it would be fine but not infort the public. Going out alone isnt accepted in many cases while it is accepted in other cases.

Drive cars, Atleast she can become a minister in the parlement atleast she can vote!!!
This is the only point I really agree with. Saudi Arabia have to work on this.

Sing. Design fashion. Wear make up. Wear a rugsack if she wants to. who told u that they arent allowed to do that? I personally dont support make ups and singing infront public ;)

[smussuw]

Okay I couldn't keep out of this thread anyway.

This is exactly the part I don't get. So as long as their views are the same as their husbands, they respected for having that view? Do all woman think alike? Are all woman happy? Don't you think there are any women out there that wants some sort of change? What if there is one woman that wants to drive herself, even considering the convenience of having a driver?

so if 99.99% of women are against driving they should allow it because 00.01% wants it? :sleepy:

btw dont get me wrong all my sisters drive cars but u cannot dictate ur opinion because u think it's right. You shouldnt base ur mentality upon others.

Saudi Arabia has its share of problems but I dont think that the western world or ur way of thinking are cabable of understanding the situation.

I am an Emirati, neither men nor women have any voting rights. It isnt not that big issue so that we cry for it. We are living fine and better than any place in this world. The west doesnt have the right to dictate their opinions on us.

[KIWIKAAS]

If saudi is going to show western movies then our cinema's have no choice but Porn... hehe poor ppl.

Nah. Half the Arabian business community already visit porn cinemas and sex shows on their business trips.

[NorthStar77]

so if 99.99% of women are against driving they should allow it because 00.01% wants it? :sleepy:

btw dont get me wrong all my sisters drive cars but u cannot dictate ur opinion because u think it's right. You shouldnt base ur mentality upon others.

Saudi Arabia have problems but I dont think that the western world or ur mentality are cabable of understanding the situation.

I am an Emirati, neither men nor women have any voting rights. We are ok with it. It isnt not that big issue so that we cry for it. We are living fine and better than any place in this world. The west doesnt have the right to dictate their opinions on us.

No, the majority should decide what's right and wrong, like in other countries, so if a majority of people in Saudi-Arabia wants to ban women from driving, that is okay. What I don't get is how vc15nets could say that other opinions are respected because there are no other opinions than the right ones(atleast that is how I understood what he wrote). Are the (aparently) minority of women that do not agree on the limitations based on their gender, free to express what they think about it?

[smussuw]

No, the majority should decide what's right and wrong, like in other countries, so if a majority of people in Saudi-Arabia wants to ban women from driving, that is okay.
The majority of the saudis females are against driving. That is why the issue havent been solved yet. The reason why they might allow it isnt because the saudis wants it. It is because the west force it on the saudis.


What I don't get is how vc15nets could say that other opinions are respected because there are no other opinions than the right ones(atleast that is how I understood what he wrote).
He is kinda right.

The veil for example is obligated in Islam so that would be the only right opinion and that is why almost all of the saudis wear them.


Are the (aparently) minority of women that do not agree on the limitations based on their gender, free to express what they think about it
I dont think that the problem with expressing their opinion is a cultural one. The government have no problem with those things.

The government's problem is with politics and that effect both sexes.

I do think that both sexes have the right to vote.

[shayan]

Ok they dont want to do it and maybe 10 miljoen saudi woman dont want to be free but maybe 2 miljoen does want to do what she wants and those 2 miljoen sould be able to. Why cant a woman be equal to a man what's so different??

[vc15nets]

Its a tribal culture they follow in Saudi and they arent gona change it after hundreds of years just because some stupid westerners is tryin to inforce it.

Non-muslims say that women are degraded in islam and they are totally wrong. It has only been recently that in the western world, women have equality because if you look back 70 years, you can see inequality. Women in the western world didnt even call their husbands by their name. Women were like slaves. So how can people with a 2000 year old history who have recently got equality, ask us with a shorter history to bring "equality"? The same thing applies to democracy. They have had thousands of years of absolutism (monarchy) so how can they ask us to abolish our absolutism even though we havent had it for as long as them?

Their "freedom" for women doesnt exist. The women are used as sex symbols. If women have to wear an abaya, its for their own good. When Islam began, women were given more rights than ever imagined. They should see what they have done before telling us that we are wrong.

[NorthStar77]

I didn't live in mideval times, so what took place here 200 years ago isn't really relevant. But you are right at one point. Women and also men were opressed by a religion here too not long ago, and that religion was christianity. Northern Europe had quite a high level of gender-equality 1000 years ago, before christianity came and ruined it.

Men are used as sex-symbols too btw, and I don't think it is right how sexist our society is, to be honest.

/ offtopic

[shayan]

Well you know I hope that people will start thinking for them selves. I hope that every person one day will diside for him/herself what lifestyle she/he wants to follow without being opressed by other views and beliefs

[smussuw]

^ ur always compare it to Iran.

Saudi Arabia is not Iran.

[prsn41ife]

WTF??!! how many of you fools have been to Saudi Arabia to know what the society is like??

civility ??, IRAN A 100 TIMES BETTER WTF.. LOLLZZ HAHAHAHA

what are you guys high on some good hash??

Saudi living standards wipe the floor when it comes to Iran. There are literally hundreds of malls across Saudi Arabia with products and goods from around the world. Its so easy to get your hands on Guess, Armani, and other designer wear.

Resteraunts, Malls, Beaches, Night Life are awsome in Saudi. When you have enough cash to do as you wish why not>??

please before i hear another persian claiming Saudi is backward and how Iran is a 100 times better think over how much richer Saudi is compared to your country!. PLUS SAUDI DOES NOT HAVE AN AHMADINJAD!!

The average Saudi Citizen is ROLLING!!, dont be fooled by the GDP per capita figures that take into consideration low end labour workers from Asia.

I've got cousins in Saudi that are Saudi Citizens I know how they live and how happy they are!, When they come to Canada they MISS SAUDI!!

ALL A PERSON HAS TO DO IS GO TO THE NUMEROUS MALLS AND SHOPPING DISTRICTS IN RIYADH OR JEDDAH AND COMPARE IT TO TEHRAN....

Not even basic infrastructure comes anywhere close to Saudis!! honestly! what are u guys thinking??

Look at the Cars on the streets of Riyadh and compare it to the Cars in Tehran..HAHAH WTF.. where do these people come from??

Saudi Doesn't need you or your pity they are happy with the oil wealth they have thank you very much.

actually, your really wrong. iran has great infrastructure and a larger economy that KSA, iran just has 70 million people while saudi arabia has 30 million people. and yes, because the KSA population is lower their poeple are richer but the middle class in iran is growing fast and they are spending money and iranian have more rights than saudis do. and if you have been to iran than you would know that there are malls everywhere also. even in mashad, one of the most religous cities in iran (20 years ago you would have been killed if you went there with western clothes) now has cinemas and malls every where and the dress is really really liberal and western. and dont forget, while the saudi government has been kissing the US's ass iran has been under sanctions. Uoft, your a complete idiot and you have lost your posting priveleges!

[prsn41ife]

^ ur always compare it to Iran.

Saudi Arabia is not Iran.

ofcourse, saudi arabs tend to be more conservative and iranians tend to be more liberal. the culture is different.

[Bahraini Spirit]

Nah. Half the Arabian business community already visit porn cinemas and sex shows on their business trips.


That are the desperate weirdos i.e. the businessmen you've been gettin.


I'd have to say though that (no generalization here about Saudis) sometimes in the cinema, you get those 'desperate weirdos' that just do silly things. For ex. when I was watchin "The Dukes of Hazzard" with my dad, there were 3 guys from Saudi sittin in the middle (we're on the side). First there was the commentin, then all hell broke loose when Jessica Simpson showed up and this is what I heard:

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwww (very typical), 7yaaaaaaaaaaty (means my life in Arabic) ew9alat (has arrived), magdar magdar magdar (can't can't can't), walla magdar (God I can't), aa5555555555 madray shasaway (aaaaaaaaahhhhh I dunno what to do).


This is one scenario I've seen in the cinema.


Please note though that this is not a generalization so not all Saudis are like this, but a fair portion of the ones we get here on the weekend.

[source26]

this soooo reminds me of the orthodox jews that are against tv and everything but then some are found creeping into peep shows and going to porn movies.. what you restrict only makes it more interesting and desirable, if it was free and open it tould be just another normal thing..
:lol:

[*UofT*]

actually, your really wrong. iran has great infrastructure and a larger economy that KSA, iran just has 70 million people while saudi arabia has 30 million people. and yes, because the KSA population is lower their poeple are richer but the middle class in iran is growing fast and they are spending money and iranian have more rights than saudis do. and if you have been to iran than you would know that there are malls everywhere also. even in mashad, one of the most religous cities in iran (20 years ago you would have been killed if you went there with western clothes) now has cinemas and malls every where and the dress is really really liberal and western. and dont forget, while the saudi government has been kissing the US's ass iran has been under sanctions. Uoft, your a complete idiot and you have lost your posting priveleges!


Dont call me an Idiot, if anything this personal attack will ultimately lead you to loosing your privelidges.

Secondly Saudi is more than just "TWICE" as good as Iran..... Iran's economic situation is so bad people voted for Ahmadinejad in hopes of alleviating poverty. Iran is still in the 70's and Saudi has been developing even through gulf wars.

You can't compare Saudi's living standards to Iran you just can't, I dont understand why people dont get that. There is literally few differences between the kinds of Goods/commerce you see in North America and that of Saudi Arabia.

[Bahraini Spirit]

Guys take it easy, we don't want any friction or insults please. Thank you.

[shayan]

well you know what keep yourself in your fanasie world. I dont need to justify myself infront of you. Maybe i was lucky to been born in a shahi familie and didn't have to see the iranian poverty sight. But i dont see as much poverty in iran as people outside are saying yes there is poverty but thats mostly under the afgani refugees (2.5 miljoen and iraqi refugees (5 hunderdthousend) and under the kurds (6 miljoen) but the rest of the people are doing quit ok. And you know i'm not saying iran is the best but i'm saying its better than saudi arabia. You know why because i dont see betternes of a nation in its GDP but in its human rights and freedoms. those things are 100 times more worth than money. I consider myself the richest person in the world only because i live in Holland where i'm free and no one can tell me what to do or what not to do. And in case you didnt know we had a very bad revolution, we had a 8 years war with the rest of the world just 17 years ago, We are put under sactions but still be are able to survive.

I know that iran doesnt have the same amout of money as you have in the KSA but iranians feel 100 times richer because they are just a bit more free than people in your nation are.

[*UofT*]

well you know what keep yourself in your fanasie world. I dont need to justify myself infront of you. Maybe i was lucky to been born in a shahi familie and didn't have to see the iranian poverty sight. But i dont see as much poverty in iran as people outside are saying yes there is poverty but thats mostly under the afgani refugees (2.5 miljoen and iraqi refugees (5 hunderdthousend) and under the kurds (6 miljoen) but the rest of the people are doing quit ok. And you know i'm not saying iran is the best but i'm saying its better than saudi arabia. You know why because i dont see betternes of a nation in its GDP but in its human rights and freedoms. those things are 100 times more worth than money. I consider myself the richest person in the world only because i live in Holland where i'm free and no one can tell me what to do or what not to do. And in case you didnt know we had a very bad revolution, we had a 8 years war with the rest of the world just 17 years ago, We are put under sactions but still be are able to survive.

I know that iran doesnt have the same amout of money as you have in the KSA but iranians feel 100 times richer because they are just a bit more free than people in your nation are.


A shahi is talking about Human rights and Freedoms... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Shah was an Authocratic ruler far from being democratic Mr. Shahi HAHAHA OMG THIS IS TOO FUNNY

Infact Shah was so disliked theres something called the Iranian Revolution that happened in 1979?? maybe your not aware of it?? HAHAHAHA

[shayan]

people made a mistake and dont insult the highness OK. And if you werent a communist or a islamist you could say anything you want about the shah. Atleast we had some respect under the shah atleast a person like you didnt dear to say iranian before 1979. Why is there such a big suport of His highness Reza Pahlavi in Iran Why did they shout his name in the 2003 protests and in the latest ones in Mashad (200.000) people HUH... WHY? His Highness Reza pahlavi doesnt even want to become the next shah of persia he wants to have a referendum. And if you say savak your brainwashed with western media because Savak only killed 1000 people (the most during the start of the revolution 1978) during the normal times the savak only killed 29 kurds. And 50 islamists and 50 communists. You had the right to say anything you wanted in newspapers. You had the right to do enything you wanted. A real hippy could be found in the 70's or in San fransisco, Amsterdam or in Tehran. And dont disrepect Reza shaheh Vagier We dont disrespect His highness king Fahd do we?

[Gilgamesh]

Alrite people, Thread is way off topic!

[smussuw]

let me tell you something about iranians. iranians complain about everything. when mossadegh was democratically elected the poeple didnt trust him, when the shah was in power everyone complained, now that the mullahs are in power every one is complaing again even though the mullahs are the only regime that has done something good for iran

:yes: :yes: :yes:

[*UofT*]

people made a mistake and dont insult the highness OK. And if you werent a communist or a islamist you could say anything you want about the shah. Atleast we had some respect under the shah atleast a person like you didnt dear to say iranian before 1979. Why is there such a big suport of His highness Reza Pahlavi in Iran Why did they shout his name in the 2003 protests and in the latest ones in Mashad (200.000) people HUH... WHY? His Highness Reza pahlavi doesnt even want to become the next shah of persia he wants to have a referendum. And if you say savak your brainwashed with western media because Savak only killed 1000 people (the most during the start of the revolution 1978) during the normal times the savak only killed 29 kurds. And 50 islamists and 50 communists. You had the right to say anything you wanted in newspapers. You had the right to do enything you wanted. A real hippy could be found in the 70's or in San fransisco, Amsterdam or in Tehran. And dont disrepect Reza shaheh Vagier We dont disrespect His highness king Fahd do we?


WTF what happened to the Freedom loving Shayan where did all this HIghness shit come from??

I can say whatever I want about whomever I choose to... That's real freedom but yo you have to stop thinking like this, you realize what your saying?? it has nothing to do with democracy all this highness shit..

[shayan]

I dont want the pahlavies as new governers of iran i only said that you sould respect our old king for what he has done. I see the son of the king as a symbol of the new democracy for iran. He doesnt want to become a new shah he wants to be voted into government. I'm still onehunderdprocent for a democracy but i only said that i was born shahi because my grandparents where loyalists of the shah and the rest of my familie but my mother and i arent for a absolute shah without democracy i think that we sould vote if we want to have the shah as a powerless symbol of the nation.

[*UofT*]

:yes: :yes: :yes:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Bahraini Spirit]

Guys stick to the topic or I'll delete it.

[shayan]

till how late is this cinema going to be opened (can you go in the night)?

[prsn41ife]

Dont call me an Idiot, if anything this personal attack will ultimately lead you to loosing your privelidges.

Secondly Saudi is more than just "TWICE" as good as Iran..... Iran's economic situation is so bad people voted for Ahmadinejad in hopes of alleviating poverty. Iran is still in the 70's and Saudi has been developing even through gulf wars.

You can't compare Saudi's living standards to Iran you just can't, I dont understand why people dont get that. There is literally few differences between the kinds of Goods/commerce you see in North America and that of Saudi Arabia.

YOU ARE AN IDIOT! and i wont get banned for saying that because its the truth. and if you werent such and idiot i said in my post that saudis are better of economically! and iran is not in the 70's. while KSA's economy is heavily dependent of the petrochemical industry, iran is doing a lot of work on diversifying. and besides, its a known fact that iranians enjoy more freedom and individual rights than saudi's do so i dont know what your talking about. everything saudi arabia has so does iran in terms of infrastructure, cinemas, malls, schools, everything....except saudi arabia is richer, thats the only difference.

[prsn41ife]

how many more cinemas are being proposed in KSA. or is this one a test try to see if it is good or not?

[Bahraini Spirit]

Last warnin guys, I'd like to keep this but it's goin out of hands and turnin into an "you're an idiot" thread.

[prsn41ife]

warn uoft. i think everyone here knows that he is a fight started. just go look in some of the other threads. he loves starting fights. anyway, can someone answer my question about other cinemas being built in KSA.

[Bahraini Spirit]

If anyone starts somethin just leave em and if it goes on for a while, we'll handle it.

And to answer your question, I have no idea, I only know of one and this cartoon cinema apparently.

[shayan]

well so i think that bahrein has nothing to worry about they will keep there cinema incomes. LOL

[shayan]

Bahreini spirit. This is an official call from prsn4life and me for a ban on Uoft because he jused a nother thread to insult the persian language without any base. In this thread he started insulting persians time afther time. He used this thread to make a bad name for persians. He also likes to come into conversations and use harsh words to sturb up a discussion. If you read what we have wroten in this thread (prsn4life and myself) you see we only based our opinions on facts. On the other had Uoft constantly jused populistic and synical terms to undermine our arguments.

[*UofT*]

Bahreini spirit. This is an official call from prsn4life and me for a ban on Uoft because he jused a nother thread to insult the persian language without any base. In this thread he started insulting persians time afther time. He used this thread to make a bad name for persians. He also likes to come into conversations and use harsh words to sturb up a discussion. If you read what we have wroten in this thread (prsn4life and myself) you see we only based our opinions on facts. On the other had Uoft constantly jused populistic and synical terms to undermine our arguments.


Facts Please Facts... :| proof??

besides i made it clear that Farsi Ajeeb was in reference to Paki Bash Tamizi Bash that freedom said. I also made it clear it was a Joke. Just because you can't handle some of my historical debates doesn't warrant a Ban, Plus you folks have been naming calling me which is a personal attack show the mod where i committed name calling??..

[shayan]

Farsi Ajeeb was said because the discussion was ended and you wanted to start a nother one. And yes we had constructive critics but you underminded them all by being synical and rude. Ok A ban is to much but a warning will do it to. Request for ban changed into a warning.

[Bahraini Spirit]

Guys don't worry to much, we look over the threads, I try to as much as possible and whenever there is a need, we take action. I don't want to lose more mideast forumers so please guys just be cool with each other and take it easy.

[smussuw]

I guess 100 posts is more than enough to discuss Saudi Arabia's first cinema.

[Bahraini Spirit]

I guess 100 posts is more than enough to discuss Saudi Arabia's first cinema.


Hahaha ya it's a new type of cinema lol.

[Gilgamesh]

Guys don't worry to much, we look over the threads, I try to as much as possible and whenever there is a need, we take action. I don't want to lose more mideast forumers so please guys just be cool with each other and take it easy.


But we just lost Badbakht! :( :bash: :cry:

[smussuw]

was she banned again? :lol:

[Gilgamesh]

Yes.

This place is stinkin wasta! :sleepy:

[Bahraini Spirit]

But we just lost Badbakht! :( :bash: :cry:


Guess who it was? Yup back in another form hehe.

[smussuw]

maybe she has to learn how to have a powerfull wasta.

[Gilgamesh]

Guess who it was? Yup back in another form hehe.


Well...Duh! :D

:cheers:

[Gilgamesh]

Anyway...She have posted more important stuff with every single account she has registered with than many other members who roam around SSC all day long...

[Bahraini Spirit]

maybe she has to learn how to have a powerfull wasta.

No wasta we can track you down even if you pretend to be an alien. We're the forum mafia :guns1:.

[Gilgamesh]

^^ I doubt it. ;)

[smussuw]

^ I guess she has to turn into an insect then.

[Bahraini Spirit]

^^ I doubt it. ;)

If you want to post more, change your house ;).

[Gilgamesh]

Anyway...I don't see the need to be so harsh on her...It's not like we don't have 4-5 other members who have been banned and returned with new usernames... :sleepy:

[Gilgamesh]

If you want to post more, change your house ;).


Why? what's up? Im gettin banned?! :runaway:

[*UofT*]

Why can't you guys show a little more respect to Bulldozergirl, she was such an awsome contributor to these forums. She contributed a lot of pictures of projects and was very informative!... ah well.

[shayan]

akheeej why was she banned (i feel sorry for her) was she rude and disrespectfull ?

[Bahraini Spirit]

Why? what's up? Im gettin banned?! :runaway:


Haha yaaaaaaaaaaaa you are lol, no man. There's more to what I wrote, you just need to crack it to understand, hehe.

And about dozergirl, well she was banned ages before I was a moderator so I have no idea but I can tell you, a lot of ppl complained about her.

[*UofT*]

akheeej why was she banned (i feel sorry for her) was she rude and disrespectfull ?


She has a long long history in these forums that dates back around 16 months actually.

[*UofT*]

Haha yaaaaaaaaaaaa you are lol, no man. There's more to what I wrote, you just need to crack it to understand, hehe.

And about dozergirl, well she was banned ages before I was a moderator so I have no idea but I can tell you, a lot of ppl complained about her.


One of the Mods that banned her back then claimed she was too Religiously opinionated in these forums and that she wasn't participating in any discussion other than religion. Really dont know if that is enough to warrant a ban but it occured anyways.

[Gilgamesh]

And about dozergirl, well she was banned ages before I was a moderator so I have no idea but I can tell you, a lot of ppl complained about her.


That's completley understandable :D

But she really behaved the last two times...

[*UofT*]

I think quite a lot of people asked for her return after she was banned... last time.

[Bahraini Spirit]

I don't think it will be the last time, the series isn't quite complete at the moment.

[Gilgamesh]

I think I should start a petition for her case! :D

[shayan]

woehahahaha i think that if she repected other peoples views and didnt provoke she can return. I'll sign your petition if thats the case Freedom.!

[Bahraini Spirit]

You should start a new society, the "Bring dozergirl back campaign".

[Gilgamesh]

The B-BDG-B Campaign! ;):D

[Gilgamesh]

Anyway...I'm going through the threads at this sub-forum...tryin to organize some (I'm a freak about those things:D)...Is it possible for you to merge a few threads?

[Bahraini Spirit]

Ok just pm the ones that you want to be merged and I'll do it, since am chillin today before the hard work tomorrow mornin.

I like your campaign name hehe.

[Gilgamesh]

^^ Well something needs to be done! :D
I never found out the details about her new boyfriend! :D Plus...she was our story teller :( (check the "chai khoneh" thread in the iran forum;)).


I'll PM you right away... :cheers:

[Bahraini Spirit]

Hehe Ms. stories. Well ya she added flavour but problems with it. Oh well life goes on unless your campaign yields somethin.

[B-Patriot]

So Badbakht is banned then..!? Howcome..I didn't really know the person, but to tell u the truth, good riddens...She or he made a stupid remark, which smussuw later quoted and threw in my face...It sorta bothered and annoyed me..!

[Bahraini Spirit]

You must of heard of infamous dozergirl, provided a good atmosphere but at many times went out of bound, and this was her under a different name.

[thryve]

SAUDI ARABIA: CARTOONS ONLY IN KINGDOM'S FIRST CINEMA

Riyadh, 17 Oct. (AKI) - Cinema screenings are to begin again in Saudi Arabia after around two decades, but will only feature cartoons for women and children.

After hearing about men and malls in Saudi Arabia and this in one day, I've had it...

[*UofT*]

After hearing about men and malls in Saudi Arabia and this in one day, I've had it...
:lol: :lol:

I know its difficult to understand at times, but trust me it aint all that bad.

I just really never take it for granted how i can understand the West and the Islamic world. :cheers:

Hope people will understand more of each other.