Israel is going to create "Jesus park"

[ZOHAR]

Christian evangelists from USA paid 45-65 million dollars to Israel for creating Jesus park in Kfar Nahum(Koppernaum) near Galilee lake
They waits for 1.5 million tourists every year!!

(news of Vatican radio)

[gilad500]

Why not a Moses park???....
and BTW I Saw on the TV that the Vatican wants to buy a part of Davids Grave(Kever David) in Jerusalem, where they think the last supper of Jesus was....

[ZOHAR]

because evangelists will finance this project.......

[Schnorrer]

Why not a Moses park???....
and BTW I Saw on the TV that the Vatican wants to buy a part of Davids Grave(Kever David) in Jerusalem, where they think the last supper of Jesus was....

i dont think israel should sell anything to those people, btw the jesus park is a weird idea but if it brings money to the country is ok...i guess :poke:

[Shohad]

^^ No, Its a good Idea I think. The area of kineret (english?) sea is perticularly holy to those evangelists protestants and everybody should be able to worship in the holy land and yeah.. it bring lots of money :)

[gilad500]

But its a Jewish country...you dont see Jewish people building a Moses park in Egypt or stuff like that.

[Schnorrer]

u got that right gilad i'm oposse of the idea of selling the land!!!!

[Kappa21]

Im for it :)

Business will prosper in the gallile. The Evanglicals will help ISrael. G-d Bless them :D

[gilad500]

I know that it will help develope the area, but I would prefer if a Jewish would have done this and the theme of the park would have been different and Non religious....

[Shohad]

Economically speaking, Israel’s huge advantage in tourism is that it is holy to all monotheistic religions and this potential is not realized. This is a good step towards this realization.
Non religious attractions you can find everywhere and better.

[Dor.IL]

more 1,500.000 people ?
you mean that every year 4,000,000 people will come to Israel???????

[Kappa21]

I know that it will help develope the area, but I would prefer if a Jewish would have done this and the theme of the park would have been different and Non religious....


We owe it to the Christians afterall...
If there buying a chunk of land, making it religous, and pumping foreign direct investment and lots of it in Euro and U.S currency....i dont mind calling one of my sons Jesus too :D

Looking at it, if its not in Israel, it will be in Jordan and in Jordan your meeting hostility + Hosility...
let it be...

these people help us sooo much, its the least we can do!

[source26]

If they can bring one million more tourists they can build minature vatican for all I care..
the rehabilitation of jesus in current judaism and vice versa is really something for research..

[Azazel]

Whatever. I don't care about it, if it's limited in size of the lot. "Jesus Park" sounds disgustingly commercial, though. :lol:

[source26]

maybe, but how commercial is bible park and kings city in eilat?

[Shohad]

^^ But they are not really religious sites! they are commercial zones for intended for having fun.

[source26]

ok so you think they will have new testament stories only and no fun rides? Let me tell you if they dont have a mary's rollercoaster or walking-on-water pool bridge contest or bible-bunjee this place is going to be empty :)

[Shohad]

LOL maybe.

[Schnorrer]

ok so you think they will have new testament stories only and no fun rides? Let me tell you if they dont have a mary's rollercoaster or walking-on-water pool bridge contest or bible-bunjee this place is going to be empty :)

hehehehehe i'm loving the idea already, i woun't mind participating in a walking-on-water pool bridge contest!!!! :)

[Azazel]

ok so you think they will have new testament stories only and no fun rides? Let me tell you if they dont have a mary's rollercoaster or walking-on-water pool bridge contest or bible-bunjee this place is going to be empty :)

walk-on-water water is the waterskate attraction, silly! :)

[Kappa21]

Remember those Evanglicals in Kfar Saba that converted jews and that singer who went to Conneticut to switch to being christian?

He sang "SHVI B EMZE SHVI B SHAD"

[Shohad]

Aha! That's why we have: http://www.yadleachim.org/default.aspx
an organization that fights missionaries :horse: I personally know a family that was converted :( those people work in this area.. they also work in the west bank so I know a settler that was converted, and Palestinians too.

[Schnorrer]

Aha! That's why we have: http://www.yadleachim.org/default.aspx
an organization that fights missionaries :horse: I personally know a family that was converted :( those people work in this area.. they also work in the west bank so I know a settler that was converted, and Palestinians too.

why those people mind their own business they come to israel to change our people, i say we dont let them in no more!!!! :)

[source26]

they can come nobody who is not insane would change religion just because he met these people..

[Schnorrer]

they can come nobody who is not insane would change religion just because he met these people..

but they use psychological pressure, i know how these people are, they dont accept a not for an answer, in some point u just wanna kick em' and run away!!!! :runaway: hehehehehe :lol:

[antar abuauad]

this is horrible it is a shame ,it is comercial adventure,a chance to make proselytism this people just hate all of as they say that if you dont turn to their belief you will go to hell and die dont you know that they consider all of as to be spiritualy blind to be murders of jesus , this is the same kind of people that was behind all genocide they are closed minded, if they could they would force as all quit our belief the only reason the say we love you is becouse they think that in the end ISRAEL must exist plus they have no clue of what relly hapend to jesus he was a radical jew thats all he never thought he was god or hes son or any of that and he hated empires and you all know what usa and others are

[source26]

well I still think its harmless, these people are welcome to visit sites holy to christianity just like bahai's come to visit haifa, etc..
If we can get 1 milion more tourists just from pilgrims, thats great, the nutty avengelists are just a tiny portion of them, so then its certainly good news.
they will do good also for bethlehem, so this will benefit peace as well.

When I travelled overseas we met these people, they are the same as Chabbad, they start with small things like read this book, come have dinner etc.. whoever falls in their traps its his problem that he was too weak from the start..

What is worse is they have in Haifa missionaries specifically to convert people from being muslims and jews into christianity and the police does nothing, because we also have a christian arab community..

[antar abuauad]

mmmmmmmmmmmmm

[[MakkabI]]

did they converted many Jews to Christian in Israel? :?

[source26]

Makkabi, they have a problem: secular jews wont convert because they are secular so they just laugh at them, and religious jews also wont convert because they are religious, so they have very small success, mostly with russian immigrants who are half quater or non jewish that immigrated with their jewish relatives and so from the start werent jewish.. that is the bigger problem.

[Shohad]

Very true source. I can add that the family that I was talking about (which was converted) was crazy from the start so its not a great loss for the Jewish nation :D

[everythingisone]

Why not a Moses park???....
and BTW I Saw on the TV that the Vatican wants to buy a part of Davids Grave(Kever David) in Jerusalem, where they think the last supper of Jesus was....
It is amusing because the room they call the last supper room is up 2 flights of stairs in a building built about 700 years ago.

[source26]

It is amusing because the room they call the last supper room is up 2 flights of stairs in a building built about 700 years ago.

If only that would be the only make-belief things in the vatican and christianity... :lol:

[Kappa21]

Makkabi, they have a problem: secular jews wont convert because they are secular so they just laugh at them, and religious jews also wont convert because they are religious, so they have very small success, mostly with russian immigrants who are half quater or non jewish that immigrated with their jewish relatives and so from the start werent jewish.. that is the bigger problem.


Yea, alot of Russians are also marrying Arabs and stuff.

Tell me something. In the movie, the Syrian bride..was the wife of the druze lawyer an ISraeli-Russian or Russian-Russian.
I downloaded the movie and those fuckers did not only a charab avoda, but a avoda druzit..

its all in arabic or some russian.
didnt understand a single word :(

[theKD80]

Very true source. I can add that the family that I was talking about (which was converted) was crazy from the start so its not a great loss for the Jewish nation :D



hahahahhaha, thats frikin hilarious,

[Shohad]

^^lol, but it's a joke because you dont give up on Jewish souls! :cheers:

Yea, alot of Russians are also marrying Arabs and stuff.

Tell me something. In the movie, the Syrian bride..was the wife of the druze lawyer an ISraeli-Russian or Russian-Russian.
I downloaded the movie and those fuckers did not only a charab avoda, but a avoda druzit..

its all in arabic or some russian.
didnt understand a single word :(
She was Druze I believe.. Russian girls often marry Arabs and go live in the west bank where they are sometimes housed in a hut and beaten to death every once in a while.

[Azazel]

I don't have any problems with intermarriage, if it's fair, and equal. Problem is ( and I know it from personal experience, in both cases), that arab men treat women bad, and arab families go insane when you try to go out with their daughters.

[Schnorrer]

I don't have any problems with intermarriage, if it's fair, and equal. Problem is ( and I know it from personal experience, in both cases), that arab men treat women bad, and arab families go insane when you try to go out with their daughters.

well man that is fucking sad, but why russian girls wanna marry arab guys if they know the life they are gonna get??? they are crazy or something??? and yeah i knot what u mean i have dated arabs girls in venezuela and their family did everything to stop us from seing each other, and when i visit her, their family was really mean to me, but when she visit my house my family was really nice to her.... :ohno: i dont know why arabs are like that :weird:

[Shohad]

^^ Every girl thinks that her guy is special, but in the end, the family influences most Arab husbands to get another Arab wife which is the beginning of the end for such families. Although I heard about cases where intermarriages work better (mostly in Tel Aviv-Jaffa where there is no cultural segregation).

Because Arabs still live in a segregated society the difference in mentalities is great. To demonstrate you how some of them think of woman, I’ll just say that I heard a Beduin say that they have to IMPORT wives from Russia :nuts:

[Schnorrer]

wow man that's really crazy, but more crazy are the girls that marry those wackos!!!!! :runaway:

[Ozcan]

i have dated arabs girls in venezuela and their family did everything to stop us from seing each other
What are Arabs doing in Venezuela? And did you have sex with that Arab girl? :jk:

[antar abuauad]

that is true

[Schnorrer]

What are Arabs doing in Venezuela? And did you have sex with that Arab girl? :jk:

are u kiding me i think venezuela must have at least 2 million arabs i think we can even think of 4 million, and i cant what i did with her , a real man never says what he does with his lady :) but i dated more than 1 arab girl, and the thing i notice is that they are extreme, they are extremely gorgeous or extremely ugly... :hahaha:

[Ozcan]

When and why did they migrate to Venezuela? With so many Arabs in Venezuela, can we call venzuela an Arab country? :D

[Schnorrer]

When and why did they migrate to Venezuela?

my dad and my mother where born here, i was born here but i only lived here til i was 8 months old my dad moves a lot :) i returned 2 yrs ago to venezuela, tough i'm moving to israel soon thanks to fucking chavez he made this country upside down!!!! :bash:

[Ozcan]

^^I meant why did the Arabs migrate to Venezuela, never mind we're off topic :)

[ZOHAR]

ppl it's bonbonim forum!!!

[Schnorrer]

^^I meant why did the Arabs migrate to Venezuela, never mind we're off topic :)

cause they where dying of hunger in their arab countries, and venezuela give them a place where they can live in peace and make a nicer future for their kids, i hope u like that answer :)

[Azazel]

well man that is fucking sad, but why russian girls wanna marry arab guys if they know the life they are gonna get??? they are crazy or something??? and yeah i knot what u mean i have dated arabs girls in venezuela and their family did everything to stop us from seing each other, and when i visit her, their family was really mean to me, but when she visit my house my family was really nice to her.... i dont know why arabs are like that

Pretty much what Shohad said - they think that they won't be like everybody else... and guess what? they are.

But Zohar is right - this is way off topic.

[SEED]

anyway.. is this project for real? or its just rumors? Jesus Park.. sounds :cool: some kinda theme park or place of worship?

[Kappa21]

^^lol, but it's a joke because you dont give up on Jewish souls! :cheers:


She was Druze I believe.. Russian girls often marry Arabs and go live in the west bank where they are sometimes housed in a hut and beaten to death every once in a while.


Why dont these girls convert to be fully jewish and marry a lousy israeli man atleast :)

[Schnorrer]

Why dont these girls convert to be fully jewish and marry a lousy israeli man atleast :)

i guess that is 10000000000000000000000000000 times better, nice idea kappa :)

[Shohad]

Why do you ask me????????? lol
It's not easy to convert though..

[Kappa21]

Why do you ask me????????? lol
It's not easy to convert though..

Yea, sometimes i ask the Rabbi's who really abuse there power in conversion. They make it hard..

and then 10 years later they wonder why a huge population of the jews is really old and dying and the young dont care.

Who needs Hitler...we can do it ourselves...just take some time....

[everythingisone]

Yea, sometimes i ask the Rabbi's who really abuse there power in conversion. They make it hard..

and then 10 years later they wonder why a huge population of the jews is really old and dying and the young dont care.

Who needs Hitler...we can do it ourselves...just take some time....
Yours is a very rash statement. The process of conversion is the way it is because we have a mesora for it to be that way. It is not an easy thing and the Rabbis that are responsible for it are careful in the manner in which they are required. Your statement about 10 years later also makes no sense.

In communities where the parents care, the children retain strong Jewish connections. In other communities where parents do not care, and do not maintain strong Jewish adherence, or where there is intermarriage, the families die out. It is a terribe thing for Klal Yisrael. But rest asured, the Jewish people will not die out. It cannot happen. But the worst thing to do is to make fake conversions where they are not really Jewish.

[everythingisone]

If only that would be the only make-belief things in the vatican and christianity... :lol:
Christianity and Islam fight over the rights to be the inheritor of Torah and Judaism. They make it up in a way that fits their temporments and personalities as the inheritors of Ishmael and Esav. None of it is surprising. I have been outside the last supper room and listened to the people swoon with emotion. The more steps they climb, the closer they get to the room that isn't the last supper room, the more they 'feel it'. I am amused.

[TalB]

No offense, but in the US, Jesusland was a bust.

[source26]

Christianity and Islam fight over the rights to be the inheritor of Torah and Judaism. They make it up in a way that fits their temporments and personalities as the inheritors of Ishmael and Esav. None of it is surprising. I have been outside the last supper room and listened to the people swoon with emotion. The more steps they climb, the closer they get to the room that isn't the last supper room, the more they 'feel it'. I am amused.

Well we have our share as well, no offense but the Kotel wall was built about 800 years after the first temple and most likely doesnt contain any building proces from the time of both temples, unlike the kotel tunnel which does have stones much larger that are from the time of the temple.. so..

[everythingisone]

Well we have our share as well, no offense but the Kotel wall was built about 800 years after the first temple and most likely doesnt contain any building proces from the time of both temples, unlike the kotel tunnel which does have stones much larger that are from the time of the temple.. so..
You are mistaken if you think we think the stones we see are the wall of the Temple courtyard. We know the stones of the wall are beneath those above ground. If the last supper room was at ground level or excavated below ground, that would be different.