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Oriolus
October 24th, 2005, 05:24 AM
Name: Comcast Center
Address: 1701 John F. Kennedy Boulevard
Height: 297 metres
Floors: 57
Floor to Floor Height: 4.57m
Architect: Robert A.M. Stern

When completed in 2007 Comcast Centre will eclipse One Liberty Place as the tallest building in Philadelphia and also the tallest building between New York and Chicago.

http://www.skyscrapersunset.com/skyscrapercity/phl/comcast/rendering050404.jpg

http://phillyskyline.com/123abc/comcast_river.jpg

Latest construction photos

by nimrod (SSP) - 15th October
http://www.pbase.com/nimrod0472/image/50776773.jpg

by MJPhilly (SSP) - 10th October
http://www.skyscrapersunset.com/skyscrapercity/phl/comcast/09/08.jpg

Chad
October 24th, 2005, 05:26 AM
This one is surely fast.

Jose Luis
October 24th, 2005, 05:49 AM
Yeah thats fast!
Also i really love the building looks.

volguus zildrohar
October 24th, 2005, 05:50 AM
Comcast Center, this ain't Canada;)

Oriolus
October 24th, 2005, 06:05 AM
lol, sorry. That's what you get when an Australian makes the thread. Maybe I should also mention that it's 975ft, for those who live in countries where the metric system is considered a tool of the devil :D

volguus zildrohar
October 24th, 2005, 06:06 AM
You're forgiven. :)

drmadham
October 24th, 2005, 07:40 AM
looks like something out of metropolis.

i think it adds well to the skyline.

TICONLA1
October 24th, 2005, 11:06 AM
Yes, this will be a cool building for Philadelphia,
To me the most interesting aspect of skyscraper construction is the structural system, and how it ties into the foundation.
This building seems to be longer and more narrow than the renderings depict. Also the foundation mat, does not look as large as the building footprint, (however it looks like the soil is undisturbed a few feet out from the mat and recompacting of the soil around the mat has started, it's possible that perimiter footings will go in as the parking levels rise.) from what i can see here, the core looks to be poured in place concrete sheer walls, i can't see anything that indicates a transition to structural steel at this point, or possible outrigger footings tied to the mat.
this tower has the nononsense, corperate look that i like to see in a tall building, and as Philadelphia's tallest, it will make a great skyline statement, and fit well in the city that is also home to Americas first international style skyscraper, the PSFS building

A r c h i
October 24th, 2005, 12:31 PM
Yes this will be a substantial addition to Philly. I quite like the apparent simplicity in its design, which I think gives it a sense of elegance as does the glazing. It will add a bit more oomph to the skyline which is always a good thing. I love Philly's architecture both the old and the new. Will be a keen observer of this one. Cheers.

phillyskyline
October 24th, 2005, 04:52 PM
Can't wait for it to start rising. Thanx for starting the thread...

Skyscrapercitizen
October 24th, 2005, 05:12 PM
Yeah I've seen this construction in June this year. It's a great addition for Philly! And my better design then all thos post modern towers!

Builder5000
October 24th, 2005, 05:33 PM
great photo that shows u where the comcast tower will be
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/jayr05/comcast_uc022.jpg
Photo found @ http://phillyskyline.com/

HT
October 24th, 2005, 06:07 PM
A typical american skraper, fits well into skyline!

Muse
October 24th, 2005, 06:11 PM
Wow! This will be truly a great addition to the Philadelphia skyline as 1 & 2 Liberty Place, Mellon Bank Center & Bell Atlantic Tower have already proved to be so.

Wow again. Comcast Center will truly be a great tower. The above renders are just superb.

To see more renders & infomation of Comcast go to both Comcast Center (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=102154) & Comcast Center 2 (http://www.emporis.com/en/il/pc/?id=102154&aid=8)

BTW In the initial post by Oriolus of the latest construction photos by nimrod (SSP) - on 15th October of it's foundations are great. It is now just over week later since nimrod posted those foundation pics and we anticipate further pics by him of the growing foundations and its above ground construction.

All is good :)

Go Philly!! :okay:

...

TalB
October 24th, 2005, 07:44 PM
I have some recent shots of the Comcast Ctr on SSP, and its foundations are being filled in.

kronik
October 24th, 2005, 07:56 PM
the work is progressing at quite a rapid pace. 2007 looks to me to be a pretty tight deadline, but hey, its Comcast country.

Go eagles.

Killadelphia
October 24th, 2005, 08:27 PM
Swweeeet thread... Can't wait till this baby gets up off the ground. It gonna be amazing in person.

lokinyc
October 24th, 2005, 08:57 PM
Isn't Bank of America in Atlanta taller, though? excellent building though.

Phobos
October 24th, 2005, 09:12 PM
It will fit very well in Philly.The base could be better though.

*Sweetkisses*
October 24th, 2005, 11:40 PM
This tower is really going to be something special.

Pedrillo
October 25th, 2005, 12:50 AM
great photo that shows u where the comcast tower will be
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/jayr05/comcast_uc022.jpg
Photo found @ http://phillyskyline.com/


Great pic!!

firulais2005
October 25th, 2005, 12:58 AM
really kool

Oriolus
October 25th, 2005, 01:22 AM
Isn't Bank of America in Atlanta taller, though? excellent building though.Yep Bank of America, Atlanta will be taller at 312m but I guess when they say tallest between NY & Chicago they're talking about when you actually travel between the two cities - via Atlanta would be quite a detour. Current tallest between NY & Chicago is Key Tower, Cleveland (289m). Unless you went via Toronto....First Canadian Place would pip Comcast by a metre (298m).

Bertez
October 25th, 2005, 02:23 AM
Nice to see a tall skyscraper go up:D:D....does anyone have any renderings of this tower??

volguus zildrohar
October 25th, 2005, 03:49 AM
There are a ton of renderings at the top of the SSP Comcast Center thread here (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65276). Several of us are following progress.

It will be the 12th tallest in the US when it's completed.

JohnnyMass
October 25th, 2005, 03:51 AM
amazing building!!! Philly's best! went there in july, was amazed by it!!:okay:

Builder5000
October 25th, 2005, 11:14 PM
posted by mistake :bash:

k19
October 26th, 2005, 12:28 AM
looks good.

Chad
October 26th, 2005, 03:46 AM
On crain is visible in the skyline thus looks amazing already.

Mosaic
October 26th, 2005, 04:31 AM
Oh! that's awesome project.

Mosaic
October 26th, 2005, 04:32 AM
American style indeed.

TalB
October 26th, 2005, 07:48 PM
Just to give everybody a recent shot of it.

Originally posted on SSP by giovanni sasso
http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/comcast_uc32_1024.jpg

Phobos
October 26th, 2005, 08:47 PM
I found this rendering on SSP and the guys told this was the new design,but it looks dated in comparison with the one posted there.What is the real design then?

http://www.ramsa.com/images/zooms/A00007.jpg

*Sweetkisses*
October 26th, 2005, 09:35 PM
^ thats not the real design. The first one is.

Killadelphia
October 26th, 2005, 09:47 PM
^^That is an old design. The project was originally proposed in 2001 at (I think) 746 ft tall. It went through a shitload of design and height changes, and the rednering you post up above is the 962 ft tall rendering proposed right before the silver 975 ft tall buuilding that is currently under construction. I'm sure there are others who could give a more detailed description of the projects shaky past but also the rendering of the building is from back when it was called One Pennsylvania Plaza. They changed the name to COmcast Center (since Comcast will be the major tenant) on January 3rd, 2005 when the newest rendering was released and the project was officially approved.

The Boy David
October 26th, 2005, 10:12 PM
Looks awesome in the renders - perfect form and positioning on the skyline.

I will watch this one grow with great interest.

Great stuff :okay:

apetrella802
October 27th, 2005, 03:28 AM
Someone asked about the foundation type being used for the Comcast Center in Philadelphia, its a caisson down to bedrock about 60 feet below grade, the framing system is reinforced concete core with outriggor, see defination at emporis site below

http://www.emporis.com/en/ab/ds/sg/ra/bu/ca/sr/

Bertez
October 27th, 2005, 03:36 AM
There are a ton of renderings at the top of the SSP Comcast Center thread here (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65276). Several of us are following progress.

It will be the 12th tallest in the US when it's completed.

Yup...I'm a dumbass;);)....thanks for the link. This is one beautiful tower:D:D

Mosaic
October 27th, 2005, 10:56 AM
Oh! the base is so hugh and looks strong. :eek: :eek:

Builder5000
October 28th, 2005, 11:10 PM
Someone from another forum did a rendering of the comcast tower from camden, hot! :eek2:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/jayr05/attachment5ua.jpg

Skyscrapercitizen
October 28th, 2005, 11:23 PM
that render is perfect!

Jaimzz..(NL)
October 28th, 2005, 11:54 PM
beautiful tower :runaway:

apetrella802
October 29th, 2005, 02:05 AM
i would like to post a piture of how the comcast building will connect to a major communter rail terminal three levels undergound but i'm having trouble doing it. Can anyone give me some insight on how to do this?

volguus zildrohar
October 29th, 2005, 04:56 AM
It's not three levels underground, it's directly underground (unless 30 feet consitutes three levels). There will be a headhouse in the plaza on JFK Boulevard that will lead down about 30 feet to Suburban Station where people can access trains.

The plot of the building itself sits directly over Suburban Station's concourse and then the tracks themselves.

Chrispic
October 29th, 2005, 02:53 PM
This is great for Philadelphia
I already loved the skyline of this city, and it will be so nice when the tower will be completed! :)

Goooo Philadelphia!

apetrella802
October 29th, 2005, 08:30 PM
Comcast Tower will have a new entrance to Suburban Station commuter rail station via a dramatic 120' high glass enclosed winter garden which is a projection of the lobby on the south side of the building. The trains will be 2 levels below grade or the 2 levels below the lobby level.

TalB
October 31st, 2005, 09:09 PM
It is now starting to reach the top.

Originally posted by cjphilly on SSP
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b49/cjurek/Comcast/200510301.jpg

PhillyPhilly90
October 31st, 2005, 09:44 PM
Keep postin' pics as it rises!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TalB
November 8th, 2005, 09:17 PM
Another recent shot of it.

Originally posted by Palms on SSP
http://home.comcast.net/~greendrake9/HPIM0687cc.jpg

Dr. Dubai
November 8th, 2005, 09:32 PM
Wooow, great to here there's finally another tall improvement to Phila's skyline. It is already quite a nice city, strange enough I haven''t been there yet. And I drove almost through it a couple of times:eek:

It's still standing on my "visiting" list:cheers:

Urban Dave
November 8th, 2005, 09:46 PM
Looks like the beast will soon rise from the ground level! Just a couple of underground floors!

ELV
November 10th, 2005, 03:49 PM
Great building!!!!
I like the render!

Schroedinger's Cat
November 10th, 2005, 03:57 PM
Great tower!

ChiLooper
November 10th, 2005, 06:58 PM
That building looks pretty awesome

Newcastle Guy
November 10th, 2005, 07:14 PM
Kewl! nice building!

MattSal
November 12th, 2005, 12:48 AM
This will definitely be a great building to watch rise. Can't wait to see it finished. :D

TalB
November 12th, 2005, 05:18 AM
It's starting to reach the surface.

Originally posted by giovanni sasso from SSP
http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/comcast_uc036.jpg

Azn_chi_boi
November 12th, 2005, 01:51 PM
Good news for Philly. Too bad it's not a 1000 footer!

Indica
November 14th, 2005, 12:25 AM
One thing guys...
BofA in Atlanta is 312 meters to the top of the spire. Im quite certain that the top floor in that building is still VERY well below the (250 meters) 950ft mark (in fact it could be in the high 800' range)... I was looking at the BofA building in SSP's diagrams last week and I was comparing them (coincedentally) to the library tower in Los Angeles since that is 310 meters. I think the top floor in the Library Tower is at the 290-295 meter mark, since the crown of that building is said to be a little over 15 meters high.

But the thing about the Comcast center is that its relatively bulkey all the way to the top! should have LOTS of floor space!! Because of that, this will be a very imposing tower..

*Sweetkisses*
November 14th, 2005, 12:33 AM
Imposing it will be.

BigDan35
November 14th, 2005, 12:57 AM
Hey guys. I'm movin to Philly in 5 months and am very excited about this new addition to the skyline! I think it will be GREAT! This is my favorite picture of Philadelphia's skyline. As you can see on the right side of the pic the Cira Center is half-way complete. As I'm aware now, it's basically done? I was wondering if anyone has a picture or could take a picture from the same spot that the below pic was taken at to show what the skyline looks like now with the Cira Center completed. Also...can someone please point out where exactly in the picture the Comcast Center will be when it's finished? Thanks!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/bigdan35/Phillyskyline.jpg

apetrella802
November 14th, 2005, 02:05 AM
this web site indicates that construction on "10 Rittenhouse Square" is to start on Nov 15th http://www.arcwheeler.com/

apetrella802
November 14th, 2005, 08:23 PM
the sales office for 10 rittenhouse square confirmed that construction on the 33 story condo and retasil complex will start on nov 21st

TalB
November 14th, 2005, 10:36 PM
Please remember that this is a thread on Comcast Centre, so let's not go off-topic with other projects, and Circa Center was already completed a while ago.

volguus zildrohar
November 15th, 2005, 06:42 AM
He just asked a question Talby, that's all. You've certainly taken to looking after a thread you didn't create. Also, watch you Centers/res :)

BigDan, I've added a little massing to that photo just to give reference where it's going. Nothing scientific or to scale or any of that, just to show you where it's going and about how it would probably look in the skyline.

http://www.pbase.com/image/52288778.jpg

BigDan35
November 15th, 2005, 05:23 PM
^ Thanks a lot. That is goin to look great in the skyline when it's finished. I'm excited as anyone else and I don't even live there yet.

*Sweetkisses*
November 15th, 2005, 09:40 PM
It looks so big compared to the others.

TalB
November 16th, 2005, 10:34 PM
Just to give another update.

Originally posted on SSP by Swinefeld
http://img497.imageshack.us/img497/8043/comcast2wm.jpg

volguus zildrohar
November 17th, 2005, 12:27 AM
Not to be a wise-ass but you're posting updates of nothing.

Aren't there buildings in New York you can cover?

TalB
November 21st, 2005, 10:57 PM
It looks like it's starting to reach the surface.

Originally posted on SSP by Swinefeld
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6254/comcast2zs.jpg

BMXican
November 22nd, 2005, 03:56 PM
if it's going to look like in the renderings this is going to be one of the most beautiful skyscrapers in the world

Killadelphia
November 23rd, 2005, 11:12 PM
^ :D

TalB
November 30th, 2005, 10:14 PM
More work on the basement floors.

Originally posted on Wired NY by Dagreeco82
http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1318&d=1133145908

zerokarma
November 30th, 2005, 10:54 PM
Looking good so far

*Sweetkisses*
December 5th, 2005, 06:34 AM
The core is above street level. Sorry I can't post pics.

volguus zildrohar
December 5th, 2005, 06:56 AM
The core itself is just below street level. The concrete placeforms are what's above the ground.

This wont be the case in the next week or so.

PhillyPhilly90
December 9th, 2005, 08:58 PM
ANY NEW UPDATES??!!

TalB
December 14th, 2005, 09:43 PM
Now it is starting to get above street level.

Originally posted on Wired NY by Cromwell
http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/comcast_uc043_southwide.jpg

Urban Dave
December 14th, 2005, 10:54 PM
:omg:! Is this a facadetest?

Mikey
December 15th, 2005, 12:20 AM
ooohh very nice, cant wait to see philys Tallest climb skywards ;)

*Sweetkisses*
December 15th, 2005, 01:33 AM
:omg:! Is this a facadetest?
What do you mean?

Builder5000
December 15th, 2005, 09:19 PM
Some interesting facts about the Comcast Center:

As of 8/19/05 less than 30 percent of Comcast Center's office space remains available for lease. The building will include a public recreational park and a new entrance to Suburban Station. Some of its retail space will extend the Suburban Station underground concourse. In addition, there will be a 500-seat concourse-level food court and a 120-space private parking garage.As to the second 16-20 story tower Comcast has the option to request the additional building to be constructed on the property.

TalB
December 15th, 2005, 11:14 PM
I never did understand what that little wall was doing there either.

volguus zildrohar
December 15th, 2005, 11:48 PM
A) That photo is by giovanni sasso. Give credit where credit's due.

B) That is a mock-up of the facade and a full floor office.

Builder5000
December 16th, 2005, 12:06 AM
If anyone else likes to keep up to date on Green Design, I found an article published last year but it was still my first time reading about it...the article can be found via the Philadelphia Business Journal at http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/stories/2005/01/10/story3.html

volguus zildrohar
December 16th, 2005, 02:13 AM
BTW, why is the title of this thread spelled "Centre" when it's "Center". This building ain't in Canada.

*Sweetkisses*
December 16th, 2005, 02:41 AM
A green Comcast? Yuck. Sorry the grey would look a lot better IMO.

crazyevildude
December 16th, 2005, 02:51 AM
A green Comcast? Yuck. Sorry the grey would look a lot better IMO.

Is that an American using sarcasm? :eek2: :jk:.

Anyway, it is nice to here major companies being so active in making a building enviromentally friendly. Although it may turn out to be a cheaper option in the long run due to reduced energy use. I hope this can be a good example to other especially in America. Where the enviroment is so often disregarded in favour of making more money.

PhillyPhilly90
December 16th, 2005, 03:09 AM
Oooh man I can't wait...I hope this helps Philadelphia to become a bigger business center and hopefully we'll start approving new tall office buildings...that's what I want.

PhillyPhilly90
December 16th, 2005, 03:10 AM
Ooh and by the way...where are these pics posted at...give me the specific site please

Urban Dave
December 16th, 2005, 11:20 AM
What do you mean?
A glass wall that appears in one of the last pictures. It seems to be just building's facade.
Normally architects want to see how the building will look in reality, building a piece of the building (or try to find solutions before a difficult part is built, to avoid problems.)
http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/comcast_uc043_southwide.jpg
The glass thing on the left.

TalB
December 18th, 2005, 04:36 AM
Will that facade that is being shown be part of this building, or is it just for a display?

TalB
December 23rd, 2005, 09:21 PM
It's now above the ground.

Originally posted on SSP by banned
http://mattg.us/cc-12-22-05-01.jpg
http://mattg.us/cc-12-22-05-06.jpg

streetscapeer
December 24th, 2005, 02:16 AM
woot, woot

volguus zildrohar
December 24th, 2005, 05:14 AM
That mockup is just for display.

PhillyPhilly, TalB is getting these photos from the Comcast Center thread at SSP. I'd recommend viewing the first post of that thread for pertinent info on the project.

XiaoBai
December 24th, 2005, 05:56 AM
^And the proof that TalB's ghost really does lurk around SSP, haunting it eternally!

TalB
December 25th, 2005, 04:05 AM
That mockup is just for display.

PhillyPhilly, TalB is getting these photos from the Comcast Center thread at SSP. I'd recommend viewing the first post of that thread for pertinent info on the project.
Since nobody from SSP comes here and gives the updates, then there is no other choice. Unless you are going to give the updates, stop complaining. Either way, the pics are credited, so it's not as if I was saying that they were mine. If there are misguided fourmers who believe that those are my pics, then that's not my issue nor is it those who don't read the first page of this thread or any others. One a sidenote, I don't find that statement from you or donybrx to be funny.

Killadelphia
December 25th, 2005, 04:35 AM
Things are getting good. Wow I am really pumped now!

Builder5000
December 26th, 2005, 07:33 PM
I don't care where TalB got the pics, he gave them credit and it saves me time from looking at 20 different sites to get them or going to the site myself. THANKS to all for their pics :-) Oh and happy Holidays

Toronto10
December 26th, 2005, 08:26 PM
In Volguus Zildrohar's rendering it would be a shame if the second Comcast building is limited to 16 stories. From that view another 700 + foot tower to the right of Comcast Center, filling in that gap, would be simply spectacular. That would be six 700' towers in a 4 or 5 sq. block area. Thats impressive. Seeing how Philly likes to do things in pairs?


http://www.pbase.com/image/52288778.jpg

Killadelphia
December 27th, 2005, 03:10 AM
^Yeah but we certainly do not need 700 feet worth of office space more. Cira Centre and Comcast Center are more than enough to keep Philly busy for a while. We just want more residential! Who knows? Maybe if Comcast doens't build there and the market is still good, eventuallly we'll see a 500+ foot tall residential building. That would also give the look more variety. That would be pretty sweet.

fish
December 27th, 2005, 05:59 AM
:tiasd: I grew up in Philadelphia.
New York won me over.
I am a skyscraper fanatic!

I am extremely pleased that Philadelphia is getting a new tower.

Maybe I'll visit the city more than once a year.

The thing is that New York has dozens of towers under construction.

Philadelphia has been stuck with the same old skyline forever.

I recall the big deal about building higher than William Penn's statue on top of City Hall and how it made me resent the city of Philadelphia for such a stupid idea.

New York has become my city, way more subways, way more scrapers.

I want to see Philadelphia grow up!!

More tall buildings, build 'em - please!!

volguus zildrohar
December 27th, 2005, 06:11 AM
Since nobody from SSP comes here and gives the updates, then there is no other choice. Unless you are going to give the updates, stop complaining. Either way, the pics are credited, so it's not as if I was saying that they were mine. If there are misguided fourmers who believe that those are my pics, then that's not my issue nor is it those who don't read the first page of this thread or any others. One a sidenote, I don't find that statement from you or donybrx to be funny.

Relax friend. Nobody from SSP updates this because we all put everything into the thread there.

6fran
December 30th, 2005, 11:19 PM
Looks like something quite unusual. I wonder what it will do to Philly's skyline, since most of the other defining towers have spires...

CULWULLA
December 31st, 2005, 01:18 AM
i might add this one to world construction diagram since its only 3m lower then 300m cutoff point. atleast its 297m all the way to flat roof. as opposed to spire ect.
cheers

HT
December 31st, 2005, 03:00 AM
I think so too, its definatly worth adding to the diagram!

TalB
January 5th, 2006, 12:29 AM
Another floor has been added.

Originally posted on SSP by Swinefeld
http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/876/comcast6tf.jpg

Pedrillo
January 5th, 2006, 12:36 AM
297 meters!! Interesting

wanderer34
January 5th, 2006, 12:49 AM
^Yeah but we certainly do not need 700 feet worth of office space more. Cira Centre and Comcast Center are more than enough to keep Philly busy for a while. We just want more residential! Who knows? Maybe if Comcast doens't build there and the market is still good, eventuallly we'll see a 500+ foot tall residential building. That would also give the look more variety. That would be pretty sweet.

I can understand what you're saying, but we need business, both big and small, to stay in Philly, and that has to be our #1 priority. We need to lower the wage and business taxes and make this city both good for businesses and for living. The only thing that's holding us back is the stupid excuse we have for a municipal gov't.

As for Comcast Center, the architects could've pushed the height up at least 25+ feet tall to give Phila it's first 1000-footer, and that would've made it special, like 1LP was the first skyscraper, CC would be the first 100 footer, and I would also like to see Mandeville, Murano, 1701 and 1901 Rittenhouse Sq break Billy Penn's brim and even 1919 Market should be taller than Commerce Sq, but shorter than IBX, and the slope should go down from IBX to Commerce Sq, but other than that, it looks like a good building.

CULWULLA
January 5th, 2006, 02:26 AM
ive added comcast centre to worlds tallest construction diagrams. normally i limit projects to 300m, but since this one is 297m al the way to roof it deserves to be included. whats 3m when viewed from street.
cheers

TalB
January 9th, 2006, 04:47 AM
I have to admit that it's starting to rise pretty fast.

Originally posted on SSP by MJPhilly
http://www.skyscrapersunset.com/projects/construction/comcast/images/0601-12.jpg

CULWULLA
January 9th, 2006, 05:57 AM
thats one mean looking core.

TalB
January 14th, 2006, 04:35 AM
This is probably its thir floor.

Originally posted on SSP by volguus zildrohar
http://www.pbase.com/image/54724990.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/phillytrax/image/54725002.jpg

apetrella802
January 15th, 2006, 02:51 AM
once the core reached 6 floors the surrounding steel framing will begin to be built. The core needs to keep ahead of the steel framing since the framing relies on the core to resist horizontal forces and the frame resists vertical forces for the most part.

PhillyPhilly90
January 16th, 2006, 07:30 PM
By next month...we can expect another crane up and we'll start to see some steel frames...I think

Harkeb
January 18th, 2006, 07:38 AM
A very good addition to this great, half forgotten american city.

Azn_chi_boi
January 18th, 2006, 01:45 PM
Looking good... so close but not yet 1000 feet.

Jules
January 18th, 2006, 09:06 PM
^Yeah, why didn't they just knock it up a few meters?

volguus zildrohar
January 20th, 2006, 07:00 AM
You don't just "add" on to a building. They're building the space they believe they can fill, no more.

SkyLerm
January 21st, 2006, 01:36 PM
Pretty good building. Great design. Wow

TalB
January 21st, 2006, 06:47 PM
^Yeah, why didn't they just knock it up a few meters?
This is easier said than done for determining the height of a building, but there are some barriers that have been known to prevent this height.'

1. Zoning laws for either the area, city, or even country.
2. The company that is the main tenant for the project calls most of the shots.

Oriolus
February 16th, 2006, 02:26 AM
Snow falls on the Comcast Centre:

by SSP's giovanni sasso
http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/comcast_uc087_snow.jpg

Xander
February 16th, 2006, 02:52 AM
nice update

SkyLerm
February 16th, 2006, 04:33 PM
thnx for the pics!!

Urban Dave
February 16th, 2006, 04:54 PM
Great update! Looks like it's growing very fast now.

volguus zildrohar
February 21st, 2006, 06:01 AM
The sixth floor is complete and the slipforms were raised today. An industrious forumer at SSP learned that steel construction on site is scheduled to begin next month.

fish
February 23rd, 2006, 06:27 AM
Just wondering, how long did #1 Liberty Place take to rise?

It's not often Philadelphia gets a tall tower.

Builder5000
February 26th, 2006, 08:30 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/jayr05/PHILLY%20FEB06/000_0611w.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/jayr05/PHILLY%20FEB06/000_0609w.jpg

*Sweetkisses*
February 26th, 2006, 08:57 PM
Just wondering, how long did #1 Liberty Place take to rise?

It's not often Philadelphia gets a tall tower.
No it is not often that Philly builds tall towers. But when they do build, they build it right, which is why I think Philly has one of the most aesthetically pleasing skylines in the U.S.

guidodesign
February 26th, 2006, 09:17 PM
i like it, its very nice

weird
February 26th, 2006, 11:41 PM
Really tall! :happy: and it's been lifted so fast. :okay:

fish
February 26th, 2006, 11:58 PM
Nice update!

It looks so small compared to what it will become.

kronik
February 27th, 2006, 09:21 AM
No it is not often that Philly builds tall towers. But when they do build, they build it right, which is why I think Philly has one of the most aesthetically pleasing skylines in the U.S.

I agree. Philly has a sweet skyline, and one part of me is gonna miss seeing One Liberty Place as the tallest point from far far away. All this time, it told me homes near.

Well, we've definitely come a long way since Rocky. :)

http://eljapolak.nl/pivot/images/rocky.jpg

see, nothing taller than City Hall!

Mosaic
February 27th, 2006, 11:32 AM
nice update, it will rise fast.

skipperBill
February 27th, 2006, 11:03 PM
Rising so fast...almost as fast as SWFC.

*Sweetkisses*
February 27th, 2006, 11:12 PM
I agree. Philly has a sweet skyline, and one part of me is gonna miss seeing One Liberty Place as the tallest point from far far away. All this time, it told me homes near.

Well, we've definitely come a long way since Rocky. :)

http://eljapolak.nl/pivot/images/rocky.jpg

see, nothing taller than City Hall!
Lol ,yea we have come a long way :)

Ian604
February 28th, 2006, 12:58 AM
I love Philadelphia.

eastwestrob
February 28th, 2006, 01:46 AM
Everyday I watch for updates on Comcast and Trump Chicago ....although I think Comcast is really going to rise fast

SkyLerm
March 1st, 2006, 06:51 PM
This one will fit very well in Philly's skyline :)

fish
March 2nd, 2006, 04:54 AM
Trump Philadelphia is coming. :okay:

eastwestrob
March 5th, 2006, 05:19 AM
Trump Philadelphia is coming. :okay:


That would be really cool

rotterdamART4U
March 17th, 2006, 07:50 AM
126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ih10vd.jpg][IMG]http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/2545/ih10vd.th.jpg

Mr. Maciek
March 17th, 2006, 08:18 AM
haha the metric system is the tool of the devil lmao :lol::lol::lol:

Citygazer83
March 17th, 2006, 08:32 AM
Hey-- that's not the Comcast Center!

http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.it.umd.edu/VR/Comcast/Images/don-aerial.jpg

This is the Comcast Center!! :(

http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/graphic/2002-11/5369094.gif

Chiterp
March 18th, 2006, 12:56 AM
LOL, nice, go Terps!

volguus zildrohar
March 18th, 2006, 01:02 AM
Well, look up at your new cousin.

http://www.pbase.com/phillytrax/image/57349453.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/phillytrax/image/57380638.jpg

By The Cheat from SSP

http://www.pbase.com/image/55933510.jpg

fish
March 18th, 2006, 04:27 AM
Cool photos! :okay:

Giant
March 18th, 2006, 05:18 AM
It's amazing how liberty one was a top 20 worlds tallest and now top 50. The Comcast Center will be a great addition to the Philadephia Skyline.. But it will make the skyline look as if it needs taller buildings. Several 1k footers or 7 hundred footers..

Momo1435
March 19th, 2006, 09:46 AM
Thanks for the update,

It will take the Philadephia Skyline into this century!

fish
March 19th, 2006, 04:46 PM
^^Keep in mind that it takes the shorter towers to compliment the taller ones.

Some examples are the Cira Centre, which extends the Philly skyline across the river.

Some current and future mid-rise developments in Center City.

Comcast Center looks good because it is complimented by the many mid-rise towers and has the fortune of being surrounded by some nearby landmark towers such as Liberty Place, Mellon, City Hall, etc.

TheOldMan
March 19th, 2006, 04:59 PM
I think it will make Phillys skyline look similar to Los Angeles, esp from a distance and at night. the Crown of the Comcast Center will be lit up very brightly at the top, just like the Library Tower. The spacing between the buildings and their realative heights will resemble LA's skyline.

I would say we would have a better skyline then Los Angeles when all of the top projects in the city going up right now are all done. LA would have a bit more height but we would have much better looking buildings overall.

Peter The Great
March 19th, 2006, 06:01 PM
This is my favorite project in the U.S.A. ...it's perfect for Philly.

fish
March 20th, 2006, 03:09 AM
Interestingly, I do not subscribe to Comcast, thank you.

They want your money, then they raise your bill because their greed feeds their ego and this tower just inflates both their ego and your future Comcast bill.

Enjoy$

Jules
March 20th, 2006, 03:49 AM
Coming along nicely. :okay:

fish
March 20th, 2006, 04:09 AM
^^ Congrats RP1 on reaching your 3K posts! :D
:dance:

Jules
March 20th, 2006, 06:07 AM
^^ Congrats RP1 on reaching your 3K posts! :D
:dance:

lol, thanks! Only 966 'till 4000. :D :cool:

hkskyline
March 20th, 2006, 06:14 AM
Of urinals, plumbers and a backseat to N.Y.
By Inga Saffron
19 March 2006
The Philadelphia Inquirer

The 58-story Comcast Center rising over 17th Street is already destined to be Philadelphia's tallest and most environmentally friendly skyscraper. But its developer, Liberty Property Trust, dreams of claiming an even more prestigious title: America's tallest green building.

Unfortunately, the city's quest for national glory may go down the drain of a waterless urinal.

The local plumbers union is blocking Liberty's plan to install no-flush, water-saving urinals in the men's rooms at the Comcast Center. Without them, the finished skyscraper would guzzle an extra 1.6 million gallons of water a year, and Liberty could have trouble obtaining a coveted seal of approval from the U.S. Green Building Council.

If the 975-foot Comcast Center fails to win the council's certification, the title of tallest green building will fall instead to New York's 962-foot Bank of America Tower, going up across from Manhattan's Bryant Park - complete with waterless urinals.

Once again, New York wins. And all because it has better toilets.

Edward Keenan, the head of Local 690, which represents plumbers in Philadelphia and its suburbs, did not return phone calls for this story. But those involved in the urinal debate say the plumbers object to the waterless devices because they require less labor to install than the traditional kind.

The city's building code has no provision for waterless urinals, an innovation that has come into use in the last five years. And because the plumbers are so opposed to the technology, Philadelphia officials are reluctant to introduce its use in the city.

"We're still looking into this. I want to make sure they're safe," said Robert D. Solvibile Sr., who runs Philadelphia's Department of Licenses and Inspections, the agency that enforces the city's building code. "We're afraid that if they're not properly maintained, dangerous gases could come into the room and harm people."

"Dangerous?" laughed Douglas Durst, the developer of the Bank of America Tower, when told of Solvibile's concerns. "We've had them in our offices for four years. If they're dangerous, we haven't noticed."

Indeed, waterless urinals are found in dozens of buildings around the country, including at Walt Disney World and in an elementary school in Pittsburgh. Not only are they considered safe, they also are more sanitary and less odoriferous than the standard kind, said Gwyn Jones, a spokeswoman for the Green Building Council in Washington, a volunteer group that establishes environmental building standards. Urine passes through a chemical cartridge in the porcelain basin, which processes the solids and allows the liquids to flow by gravity into the building's plumbing system. Traditional urinals pour 1.6 gallons of water down the drain with every flush.

Even the state government is a fervent convert to the waterless bowls. The city's reluctance to approve the technology "really flies in the face of what we're preaching," complained Harry Rummel, a real estate manager for Pennsylvania's Department of Environmental Protection. He has approved the urinals in nearly a dozen state buildings, including the agency's new Norristown offices.

"You're not putting plumbers out of work," Rummel insisted. "The urinals still need a drain. You're just using less water. It's a no-brainer."

Liberty Property Trust, which has built more than 700 office buildings, including Liberty Place in Philadelphia, has become one of the nation's leading proponents of green technology. It recently won a gold rating - the second highest - from the Green Building Council for an eight-story office project in Allentown. That building has used waterless urinals without incident since it opened in 2003. Like the Comcast Center, it was designed by Robert A.M. Stern Architects.

"We're pretty convinced as a company that waterless urinals are a good technology," said John Gattuso, the Liberty vice president responsible for building the Comcast Center.

Gattuso said he was still hoping that Solvibile and the plumbers union would reverse their stand on the urinals, but time is running out. Although Liberty has just begun to erect the Comcast Center's concrete elevator-and-stair core, it needs to put in its order for urinals soon, so they are delivered in time for the tower's scheduled opening in September 2007.

"It's a terrible situation. Here's a private developer trying to do the right thing, and they're hitting a roadblock," said Robert Diemer, who chairs the board of the Delaware Valley Green Building Council. "This is an important project for Philadelphia. The city needs to take a leadership role."

Philadelphia's powerful trade unions, which contribute heavily to political campaigns, have long called the shots on various building issues. During the years that the Zoning Board of Adjustment was run by Tom Kelly, head of the Sheetmetal Workers Union, he insisted that even modest construction projects have central air-conditioning rather than less-costly window units. No city code requires a central-air system, which is connected by expensive metal ducts.

Ironically, the Philadelphia Water Department has been looking for ways to reduce the water flowing into the city's overburdened sewer system. After a heavy rain, the city must often release untreated sewage into the Delaware River. "Waterless urinals would certainly be in line with our sustainable goals," said Glenn Abrams, the department's urban watersheds planner.

Yet Liberty was denied permission to install them in a four-story office building that was just completed at the Navy Yard. Even without the urinals, Gattuso said, he expects the Navy Yard building to receive the Green Building Council's gold rating.

It's not as easy for a skyscraper to be green, however. Sheathed in vast expanses of glass - usually trucked in from far away - office towers consume tremendous amounts of energy for heating and cooling.

To compensate for their inherent wastefulness, developers must employ a variety of energy-saving technologies to win a rating from the Green Building Council. In recent years, the council's ratings have become a mark of status, helping developers to attract tenants in a competitive office market.

For a developer, winning the highest rating - platinum - is the equivalent of an author being picked for Oprah's Book Club. Companies gravitate toward green buildings because their energy costs generally run about 45 percent below normal. Employers also believe that green buildings have cleaner air, which helps reduce the number of employee sick days.

Even if Solvibile and the plumbers reject Liberty's request to install waterless urinals, the Comcast Center will still be a very efficient building. The tower will get points from the Green Building Council for its heat-deflecting solar windows, a large, rain-absorbing planted "green" roof, and a highly efficient heating and cooling system. No doubt, the council will also give Liberty credit for reusing an urban site and connecting its building to the Suburban Station transit hub.

But the question is, will those points be enough to win Comcast an unqualified green rating? The 51-story Bank of America Tower that Durst is building is fully loaded with virtually every approved green technology, including a cogeneration plant that will produce 80 percent of its energy and a system to recycle rainwater for flushing traditional toilets. The building is only 945 feet without its spire, but it may be substantially greener than the 975-foot-tall Comcast Center.

Like Gattuso, Durst had to mount an extensive education campaign. But once he explained that no-flush urinals would reduce the building's water consumption by millions of gallons a year, New York City building code officials eagerly embraced the technology, he said. New York suffers frequent droughts and is desperate to reduce its water use.

"We're going for a platinum rating," Durst said.

Gattuso said he wasn't sure what rating the Comcast Center would get.

So far, no news has leaked out.

Contact architecture critic Inga Saffron at 215-854-2213 or isaffron@phillynews.com.

fish
March 20th, 2006, 06:32 AM
^^ That would be interesting if Philadelphia's chance at winning the tallest green building title was lost to a toilet.

Wow, Phillly's opportunity flushed down the drain. :laugh:

Mosaic
March 20th, 2006, 09:43 AM
Great update, will it be the tallest one?

volguus zildrohar
March 22nd, 2006, 02:19 AM
Yes, by 30 feet.

kronik
March 22nd, 2006, 06:14 PM
Once again progress being held hostage to damn labor unions. Its a marvel that Philadelphia still moves ahead despite a corrupt city government, blackmailing unions and a creaking SEPTA. We fight on, coz thats the Philly way.

I drove past the center 2 days ago. Progressing along very nicely.

TalB
March 22nd, 2006, 11:01 PM
For an elevator shaft that was the sigh for it rising, it's pretty thin.

fish
March 23rd, 2006, 04:10 AM
For an elevator shaft that was the sigh for it rising, it's pretty thin.

I saw it in person on New Year's day and it looks quite big actually.

volguus zildrohar
March 24th, 2006, 04:15 AM
It's actually very big, TalB, in comparison to the building. It will narrow, of course, as it rises but right now it takes up a large portion of the levels so far reached.

slow-v6
March 24th, 2006, 11:23 AM
I think it will make Phillys skyline look similar to Los Angeles, esp from a distance and at night. the Crown of the Comcast Center will be lit up very brightly at the top, just like the Library Tower. The spacing between the buildings and their realative heights will resemble LA's skyline.

I would say we would have a better skyline then Los Angeles when all of the top projects in the city going up right now are all done. LA would have a bit more height but we would have much better looking buildings overall.

It already is a better skyline in my opinion!!

TheOldMan
March 25th, 2006, 08:08 PM
It already is a better skyline in my opinion!!


Yes, i agree with you on that. our skyline is more diverse and physically covers more ground. center city is actually twice the size of the Downtown Grid of Los Angeles. i was in LA not to long ago and always though LAs downtown core was larger than Phillys but it really is not.

with a tall box like structure tapering like comcast does, roughly centered and surrounded by 650-850 foot tall buildings, Philly will somewhat resemble LA. which is great. except our skyline is and will continue to be superior.

Urban Dave
March 26th, 2006, 01:03 AM
It's raising very fast!

hkskyline
March 26th, 2006, 06:31 PM
Take a stand on no-flush urinals
Anyone? Will civic pride go down the drain?
Our fearless city leaders sit this one out
By Inga Saffron
Inquirer Architecture Critic
26 March 2006
The Philadelphia Inquirer

All Liberty Property Trust wanted to do was install 116 environmentally friendly waterless urinals at its new Comcast Center tower so it could compete for the title of America's tallest green building. But the answer from Philadelphia's plumbers union was, in so many words, go flush it.

The situation, my hard-boiled editor said, cried out for a major urinalysis. Call Mayor Street! Ring up the six guys who want his job in 2007! Find out where they stand when it comes to urinals. Ask how they would handle the trade unions who call the shots on Philadelphia's construction projects.

Calls went out Thursday to the Significant Seven: Street, U.S. Rep. Chaka Fattah, Councilman Michael Nutter, State Rep. Dwight Evans, former City Controller Jonathan Saidel, insurance exec Thomas Knox, and union guy John Dougherty, head of the electricians local.

The mayoral election is just around the corner. Surely the hopefuls would want to step up with a big, bold statement on the burning issue of no-flush urinals. The devices, which are in dozens of buildings around the country, would help Philadelphia conserve 1.6 million gallons of water a year and take pressure off its overburdened sewer system. More than that, the urinals promise to bring national glory to Philadelphia and the Comcast Center, rising at 17th Street and JFK Boulevard.

Responses began to trickle in.

Street: No comment.

Saidel and Evans: No response.

Fattah dispatched his emissary, spokesman Ron Goldwyn: "Congressman Fattah has no comment on this issue," he said dryly in an e-mail.

Dougherty was more of a stand-up guy: "He plans to talk to his brothers and sisters in the plumbers union to learn more about the technological, ecological and labor issues involved in waterless urinals," his spokesman, Frank Keel, e-mailed.

Nutter got on the horn personally. "I'm no expert on the subject of waterless urinals," he began tentatively, but soon the floodgates were open: "To continue to be a great city, you have to make sure you're on the cutting edge of technology... . Sustainability is fundamentally the direction we should be moving."

Knox, the millionaire businessman who is described on www.thenextmayor.com as having a $5 million campaign chest but "little or no name recognition," would take no position on the urinals but offered this stream of thought: This problem "just takes leadership," he said. "You'd have to get everyone together in a room. It shouldn't take more than a half-hour to resolve."

Actually, the mayor's people already have tried that. In January, Commerce Director Stephanie Naidoff hosted negotiations at City Hall with representatives from Liberty, the Delaware Valley Green Building Council, and the city's Department of Licenses and Inspections, which enforces building standards.

It was a washout.

"We're still looking into this," said Robert D. Solvibile Sr., who runs L&I.

There has been mounting pressure for Solvibile to take control of the situation since this paper ran a story on the dispute a week ago. "I've never gotten so many e-mails on a subject," he marveled. "And giant postcards, too."

Because waterless urinals are relatively new, Philadelphia's building code does not provide for them, and Liberty needs city approval for their use in the Comcast tower. The state, however, not only allows the devices, it also promotes them.

But that doesn't hold water with city plumbers, who are blocking the urinals because they require less pipe - and less work.

Edward Keenan, head of Plumbers Local 690, phoned unexpectedly, two weeks after first being called for comment. "I'm still doing my homework on this," the plunger in chief said. "I don't want to make a statement. And when I do, it will be in writing."

Meanwhile, the 2006 urinal debate has been simmering in the blogosphere. By Friday, Phillyblog.com's forum had received 2,885 page views and 154 posts. Nearly all wrote to say the plumbers union - whose members number 1,800 - is all wet.

"So," a blogger named Joely wrote, "you could say Philadelphia loses by a flush" if Comcast does not receive a certificate from the U.S. Green Building Council.

Waterless urinals aren't as experimental here as city officials contend. SEPTA installed them last year when it renovated the restrooms at its Market Street headquarters, although there seems to be some dispute about whether the agency obtained the proper permits.

Hogwash, Solvibile said. "They're in violation of the code," he claimed. "We're taking them to court."

"It figures," complained a municipal reform activist, who was wishy-washy about being named. "The plumbers union doesn't care if the city goes down the toilet as long as they get the plumbing work."

But Thomas Chapman, head of city planning, called to say it was about policy, not plumbers: "I can tell you this," he said effusively. "We support green design practices. We're going to encourage developers to use green design."

Yeah, yeah, but what about waterless urinals?

No comment.

eastwestrob
April 3rd, 2006, 08:48 PM
Any recent updated Pic's...Comcast is now 3 pages back

TroyBoy
April 3rd, 2006, 09:18 PM
Do waterless urannals smell bad? The ones iv used are all nasty.

Is anything other than the core up yet, if not when will the start with it?

Tom_Green
April 3rd, 2006, 09:46 PM
pics from yesterday by MJPhilly (SSP)
http://www.skyscrapersunset.com/projects/construction/comcast/images/0604-02.jpg

http://www.skyscrapersunset.com/projects/construction/comcast/images/0604-03.jpg

http://www.skyscrapersunset.com/projects/construction/comcast/images/0604-06.jpg

eastwestrob
April 3rd, 2006, 10:12 PM
Thank you Tom_Green

CULWULLA
April 4th, 2006, 01:15 AM
wow, a 14storey core and NO floor plates. looks like builders forgot something.lol.jk.
thanks mr green.

*Sweetkisses*
April 4th, 2006, 03:25 AM
They DID begin the floor plates. It hasnt reached street level, thats all.

slow-v6
April 4th, 2006, 08:50 AM
It's amazing how liberty one was a top 20 worlds tallest and now top 50. The Comcast Center will be a great addition to the Philadephia Skyline.. But it will make the skyline look as if it needs taller buildings. Several 1k footers or 7 hundred footers..


I agree with you.. It would be nice to see some 700-1000 footers over in universcity city or up by the saint james..

Mosaic
April 4th, 2006, 09:14 AM
The core is really hugh. Very nice updates.

Skyscrapercitizen
April 4th, 2006, 09:32 AM
Always nice to see a core going up first. :)

fish
April 5th, 2006, 02:29 AM
The section of downtown Philadelphia ("Center City"), subsection, "Market East" is so under developed.

With the exception of The Gallery, Independence Park, PSFS, and a few others, it's very low key.

Philadelphia, like Manhattan, has rivers on both sides.
When you look at Manhattan, you see skyscrapers from river to river.

Philadelphia would benefit from some east side towers.

Oh and don't just build along Market St. either, but extend it North and South and fill it in.

I'd rather have a multi-level parking garage with a nearby skyscraper than an empty parking lot or some run-down low-rise buildings.

Woko
April 5th, 2006, 03:08 AM
wow, a 14storey core and NO floor plates. looks like builders forgot something.lol.jk.
thanks mr green.


Lol!! it's true!!!
Great uptade. Thank you Tom_green.

fish
April 5th, 2006, 06:23 AM
What would be interesting if Comcast secretly adds a spire at the end of the construction, much in the way the Chrysler Building did.

Oh hey, didn't we mention a spire? Oh sorry, must've slipped our minds. :okay:

*Sweetkisses*
April 5th, 2006, 06:36 AM
^ No. Philly doesn't need any more spires.

FM 2258
April 5th, 2006, 07:59 AM
^ No. Philly doesn't need any more spires.


I know, spires suck. :down:

Mosaic
April 5th, 2006, 08:55 AM
it seems to have only the core rising.

CborG
April 5th, 2006, 12:36 PM
Wow, massive core! It could be a building of it's own:)

hkskyline
April 5th, 2006, 04:28 PM
Developer, plumbers' union propose test of waterless urinals
By DEBORAH YAO
4 April 2006

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - The developer of Comcast Center and the plumbers' union reached a detente on Tuesday, jointly proposing to the city that waterless urinals be installed as part of a five-year pilot program with twice-a-year inspections.

Liberty Property Trust, the skyscraper's Malvern-based developer, said Local 690 was concerned about the performance, maintenance and safety of the no-flush urinals. Liberty hopes a joint proposal with the union would prompt city regulators to approve the use of these urinals.

The developer expects to meet with the city's plumbing review board Wednesday.

"It's quite an important step," said John Gattuso, senior vice president of national and urban development at Liberty. "Not only because we can proceed with this but we have the potentital to become the first really green high-rise, high-performance building in the U.S."

The pilot program will monitor whether the urinals pose odor, maintenance and other problems. If they prove to be a hassle or a hazard, the urinals will either be replaced or modified in a way that would use less water than a conventional unit, Gattuso said.

He said talks with the union didn't center on whether there will be less work for plumbers, since waterless urinals use fewer pipes. Gattuso said any impact on plumbing work will be minimal.

The plumbers' union, formally known as the United Association of Journeymen and Apprentices of the Plumbing and Pipe Fitting Industry of the United States and Canada, initially balked at the installation of no-flush urinals. Reasons could include potential loss of plumbing work to concerns about health and safety.

On the Net:
Liberty Property Trust: http://www.libertyproperty.com/
Union: http://www.ua.org/

Woko
April 6th, 2006, 12:31 AM
others pics, taked from phillyskyline.com (http://phillyskyline.com/)

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/comcast_uc128.jpg

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/comcast_uc126.jpg


---------------------------------
remember the first design ... lol

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/timeline/comcast_early1.jpg

volguus zildrohar
April 6th, 2006, 02:29 AM
I agree with you.. It would be nice to see some 700-1000 footers over in universcity city or up by the saint james..

No it wouldn't.

Bridgeman's View Tower and the rest of NoLibs should be nice if all those projects happen but that lopsided "dual-skyline" effect - few cities pull that look off well (Atlanta is not one of them and Philadelphia...I need more convincing).

Sunday, April 2:

http://www.pbase.com/phillytrax/image/58105494.jpg

Floor plates have been underway for a few weeks on the underground levels.

http://www.pbase.com/phillytrax/image/58105495.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/phillytrax/image/58105497.jpg

fish
April 6th, 2006, 05:01 AM
Location is so important for this particular job.

The gap in the skyline will be properly filled, thus ensuring the West side some density.

Tall buildings are complimented by nearby mid and low-rise buildings.

Also, color plays a major role here as well.

When you see how the colors of all the surrounding low, mid and high-rise towers look, it gives Philadelphia it's own unique image.

A skyline is like a signature that represents a city.

Philadelphia is making some serious progress here.

The future is looking remarkable!!

kronik
April 6th, 2006, 05:34 AM
I used to think that the Cira Center would look really weird as the only tower across the river in university City, but I must say it really does well, with the lighting and all.


I dont think having a few more towers of the same height in the uni. city end of the river would necessarily be a bad idea. As long as they dont box the Peco tower in.

slow-v6
April 6th, 2006, 07:15 AM
No it wouldn't.

Bridgeman's View Tower and the rest of NoLibs should be nice if all those projects happen but that lopsided "dual-skyline" effect - few cities pull that look off well (Atlanta is not one of them and Philadelphia...I need more convincing).

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It would not act as a dual skyline it will just continue the skyline.. Like the chicago river cuts through downtown chicago but it doesnt give the city a dual skyline effect does it?? When you are coming over the walt witman to Philly you cant even tell there is a river between the cira and the peco buildings!! If they add some 700 footers back there then it will make the skyline look completly massive!! Like New York and Chicago. Thats what I think.. There is no reason why Philly shoudnt have as big of a skyline as NY or Chicago..

volguus zildrohar
April 7th, 2006, 04:51 AM
If there were a market to support a sea of new highrises then that would be great.

Mosaic
April 7th, 2006, 02:12 PM
That's very nice updates, the core looks tall already.

FROM LOS ANGELES
April 13th, 2006, 01:36 AM
Is Philly having a residential tower boom also? Good for you if it is. I would love to see Philly become the 4th skyline in the USA. NY, Chi, LA, Philly, the way I would like it.

fish
April 13th, 2006, 03:31 AM
^^ I believe Philadelphia is experiencing the condo tower phase.

New York's been doing it and still going strong - glad to see Philly pick up on the craze! :okay:

volguus zildrohar
April 14th, 2006, 02:02 AM
Philadelphia is undergoing the same condo boom the rest of the nation is. A lot of the lowrise projects are underway or complete while many of the hgih rise projects have yet to get off the ground (even though the bulk of them are due to begin this year).

You can check this (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=100914) thread at SSP about the Philly construction boom and its projects.

Richo
April 14th, 2006, 03:37 AM
This building will be a great addition to Philly!

It's shiny glass looks great.

hkskyline
April 18th, 2006, 01:31 AM
Developer sells 80 percent interest in new Philadelphia skyscraper to German company
14 April 2006

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - The developer of the Comcast Center, which will be the city's tallest skyscraper, has sold an 80 percent interest in the building to a German real estate company.

Under a deal announced Thursday, Malvern, Pennsylvania-based Liberty Property Trust will be the managing partner of a new joint venture with CommerzLeasing & Immobilien AG, of Duesseldorf, Germany, a wholly owned subsidiary of Commerzbank AG.

Comcast Corp., the United States' largest cable television provider, has leased 39 floors of the 58-story building, which is scheduled to become its corporate headquarters late next year.

The deal values the building at $523 million (euro432.45 million), a $404-per-square foot (euro330-per-0.1 square meters) price nearly twice the largest previous transaction in the city, said Bill Hankowsky, Liberty's chief executive officer.

The joint venture, Liberty/Commerz 1701 JFK Boulevard L.P., will own the building. Liberty will own a 20 percent share of the joint venture and be paid fees by it for leasing and managing the tower.

The leases signed by Comcast were left unchanged. Comcast has options for additional space, including a second 20-story building on the site, Hankowsky said.

eastwestrob
April 21st, 2006, 04:37 PM
Its time for a Photo update...last one was April 5th. I'm jonesing

Tom_Green
April 21st, 2006, 05:33 PM
Its time for a Photo update...last one was April 5th. I'm jonesing

You are right !!

april 18
by MJPhilly (SSP)
http://www.skyscrapersunset.com/projects/construction/comcast/images/0604-12.jpg

http://www.skyscrapersunset.com/projects/construction/comcast/images/0604-13.jpg

http://www.skyscrapersunset.com/projects/construction/comcast/images/0604-16.jpg

http://www.skyscrapersunset.com/projects/construction/comcast/images/0604-20.jpg

eastwestrob
April 21st, 2006, 08:19 PM
^^^^ And there we have it...above ground steel. Thank you Tom Green

slow-v6
April 26th, 2006, 05:36 PM
Very nice.. Its going up pretty fast!!

Muse
April 26th, 2006, 06:33 PM
Very nice.. Its going up pretty fast!!Oh gosh, it sure is. At this rate it will be easily completed within 1 1/2 years, at least externally....easily!

It doesn't have any major twists or turns in the tower component, nor fancy-shmancy over the top architectural features...just basically str8 up 'n down so the reconfigs will be kept to a minimum.

Scruffy88
April 26th, 2006, 07:27 PM
[QUOTE=hkskyline]Developer, plumbers' union propose test of waterless urinals
By DEBORAH YAO
4 April 2006

They actually have no flush unrinals in the bathrooms at Tompkins Sq Park in Manhattan. You can smell the bathroom from 500 feet away

Gross Idea. I dont know how smart this is in a skyscraper.

I dont think the tompkins ones were intentional. they just have no water and when you go, it just goes down the pipes

TroyBoy
April 27th, 2006, 01:46 AM
agreed i find waterless urinals to be nasty and smelly, i could care less about that greeen building thing, unless if it comes with a major tax break.

CULWULLA
May 1st, 2006, 01:06 AM
wow, a 300ft core.
rising fast
http://www.skyscrapersunset.com/projects/construction/comcast/images/0604-20.jpg

eastwestrob
May 9th, 2006, 04:38 PM
Bump....Update???

eastwestrob
May 14th, 2006, 03:21 AM
2 weeks and no updates? Where are all the Comcast fans.

Joe84323
May 14th, 2006, 03:31 AM
Here are some updates, courtesy http://phillyskyline.com

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/comcast_uc211.jpg

http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/comcast_uc200.jpg

eastwestrob
May 15th, 2006, 08:58 PM
^^^^ Thank you for the updates. I feel better now with that fix

ZZ-II
May 15th, 2006, 10:13 PM
Good pics, thanks.
Which date were the photos make?

Scruffy88
May 17th, 2006, 02:34 AM
why is the steel frame stalling?

fish
May 17th, 2006, 02:49 AM
I am planning a trip to Downtown Philly soon so I can post some construction photos! :okay:

volguus zildrohar
May 17th, 2006, 03:14 AM
The steel has fallen behind lately because of bad weather. Insurance on-site doesn't cover workers slipping off a wet steel beam.

Skyman
May 17th, 2006, 10:32 AM
Grows fast

cool890
May 20th, 2006, 05:41 PM
I live near philly so ill get you guys update every week

Scruffy88
May 21st, 2006, 05:00 AM
The steel has fallen behind lately because of bad weather. Insurance on-site doesn't cover workers slipping off a wet steel beam.


wait, was that a joke?

fish
May 22nd, 2006, 06:03 AM
Update

Here are some photos from this past weekend.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9863/comcast73pn.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1868/comcast67dg.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1369/comcast50rh.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9392/comcast46gv.jpg

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2889/comcast30vb.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7100/comcast29tz.jpg

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8210/comcast14uh.jpg

CrazyCanuck
May 22nd, 2006, 07:04 AM
Thank god, it looks as if the rest of the building is catching up to the core.

volguus zildrohar
May 23rd, 2006, 03:51 AM
No, Scruffy, that's is literally the case. Walk by the site on a rainy day and check out all the ironworkers hanging out under the CIGNA Annex or by the Wawa across the street..

Ysh
May 23rd, 2006, 11:35 AM
Project is nice:)

SNL
June 5th, 2006, 02:13 AM
what can they do to combat the bad smell of the waterless urinals???

CrazyCanuck
June 5th, 2006, 02:23 AM
Ice will do a mighty fine job. The test facade looks really good, very glass like.

Muse
October 4th, 2006, 05:16 PM
Any updates on this one?

ZZ-II
October 4th, 2006, 05:21 PM
www.phillyskyline.com

CborG
October 4th, 2006, 10:49 PM
It's making nice progress!

Diagram:
http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/diagram/COMCASTCENTERDIAGRAM_THIN_060921.jpghttp://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/comcast_uc512.jpg
http://phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/comcast_uc515_skyline.jpg

ZZ-II
October 4th, 2006, 10:53 PM
yes it's fast but still no glas

HT
October 5th, 2006, 06:41 PM
what can they do to combat the bad smell of the waterless urinals???


Ive benn watching this discussion about the stinky urinals a long time now and I have to ask you :

Do you really think a they would build urinals that smell bad all the time ??

NO



Here in Germany many restaurants (even lots of Mc Donalds and Burger Kings too)
have this kind of waterless urinals, called "urimat"

And I can tell you, they are not stinky !!! They are much better and cleaner than any other urinals.
And the best, they are without chemical stuff and without water, so they are very good for the environment.

Jose Luis
October 6th, 2006, 03:22 AM
The cladding looks like its gonna be great hope they start covering it already

kronik
October 6th, 2006, 05:03 PM
I think its been mentioned already, but the problem with the waterless urinals the builder wanted installed in the building is not whether they stink or not, but it means less plumbing and thus less work for the plumbers union.

kronik
October 6th, 2006, 05:04 PM
I think its been mentioned already, but the problem with the waterless urinals the builder wanted installed in the building is not whether they stink or not, but it means less plumbing and thus less work for the plumbers union.

Christoforo
October 7th, 2006, 08:43 AM
This is probably just because it's still in construction and it just looks that way, but does the Comcast Center look really skinny width wise to anyone else? Is it supposed to be like that?

volguus zildrohar
October 13th, 2006, 04:58 AM
Comcast Center is wider along the north and south than along the east and west. The building shares its side of the block with Arch Street Presbyterian Church (which is getting a makeover courtesy of the developers) and so had to be trimmed down a bit. If the church wasn't there the building may have been shorter.

Also, glass delivery has began Wednesday morning and installation will begin this weekend.

Calvin W
October 14th, 2006, 05:54 AM
Will be good to see the glass going on. See some pics next week maybe?

ZZ-II
October 14th, 2006, 10:32 AM
hope it :)

volguus zildrohar
October 25th, 2006, 06:17 AM
From the last week:

http://www.pbase.com/phillytrax/image/68931697.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/phillytrax/image/68931701.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/phillytrax/image/68931698.jpg

CULWULLA
November 23rd, 2006, 05:11 AM
been a month since last updates. come on slackos.

Gerard
November 23rd, 2006, 11:41 AM
You can track progress at this site (http://www.phillyskyline.com)

These pictures are from that site
http://www.phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/diagram/COMCASTCENTERDIAGRAM_THIN_061107.jpg

http://www.phillyskyline.com/bldgs/comcast/comcast_uc612.jpg

ZZ-II
November 23rd, 2006, 02:36 PM
good progress.

Jay
November 30th, 2006, 02:24 AM
It's already passed the BA tower I believe, at 750' (227m) It's now the 4th tallest in Philly!:) Next is Mellon Bank at 795' (242m) Liberty place 2 at 845' (258m) and One Liberty at 960' (290m)


Soon enough...:cheers:


By 5 years Philly will have at least 15 buildings over 150m! :D

skyperu34
November 30th, 2006, 02:38 AM
wow, what a great updating !!!!!!!!!! nice pics and diagrams !

jmhoriel
November 30th, 2006, 04:11 AM
Construction photo taken 11/25/2006 showing glass being installed along the Arch Street side of the building

http://static.flickr.com/106/309917926_682f06474a_b.jpg

jmhoriel
November 30th, 2006, 04:51 AM
http://static.flickr.com/107/301372448_4d9c44a958_b.jpg

fish
November 30th, 2006, 06:04 AM
^^ Wow !!
That's the best photos of the Comcast Center in this entire forum! :D

Peterw
November 30th, 2006, 10:49 AM
Very nice picture. Building looks huge here

ZZ-II
November 30th, 2006, 03:55 PM
beautiful glass!!

great184
November 30th, 2006, 04:35 PM
A nice glass box indeed :) straightforward simplicity :)

FM 2258
November 30th, 2006, 05:52 PM
This is coming along very nicely. Just what Philadelphia needs to improve its skyline.

jmhoriel
December 1st, 2006, 02:04 AM
I was able to get some great shots from City Hall Tower. It was about 4:30pm and the sun was just setting. The partly cloudy sky made a nice backdrop. Here is another photo showing more of the skyline. One Liberty Place, Mellon Bank Center and the Bell Atlantic (Verizon) Tower all are visible in this shot. Cira Centre, the new 28 story office tower by 30th Street Station, is also visible.

http://static.flickr.com/99/301370348_19ec2c6598_b.jpg

EtherealMist
December 1st, 2006, 02:55 AM
I didnt the Comcast Centre was this far along, this is gonna be good for Philly

Chad
December 1st, 2006, 03:04 AM
Cira Centre looks awsome!!!! :eek: