Ok, so new discussion,
Will Montreal ever see another 50-storey building constucted again?
What do you think?

Sure why not, if the hiegh restriction would be taken off. Maybe Montreal will be like Singopore and have 2 or more tower at 205m

There could be another 50 story building with the current restrictions. If the limit is ever raised/removed, I'll be waiting for a 70+ story building. :D

I read somewhere that the city of Montreal had a height restriction on buildings so they would not block out views of Mount Royal...is that true?
Is 50 stories the present building height restriction?
Montreal has a nice skyline but I would like to see a few supertalls added to it.

CANUSA

Ok, so new discussion,
Will Montreal ever see another 50-storey building constucted again?
What do you think?

Yes i do, the economy is heating up again. And people are moving into the city again. If surrey can do it...Montreal can!

BTW MTLskyline i love ur avatar

I read somewhere that the city of Montreal had a height restriction on buildings so they would not block out views of Mount Royal...is that true?
Is 50 stories the present building height restriction?
Montreal has a nice skyline but I would like to see a few supertalls added to it.

CANUSA

yes, his is true, no building can surpass Mount Royal (205m)

how many 50 story buildings are there already?

MOntreal may one day see another 50 storey building, but my guess is that it'll be a residential tower.

Even though the office market is doing well, (vacancy rate at 9.3% and dropping) there is still some prime office space available, and the construction of a new office tower isn'T in the works right now. And if something does get built, it'll most likely be in the 25 to 30 storey range.

The current height limit restricts buildings to a maximum height of somewhere between 205 and 210(or maybe 215 meters). As long as the building doesn't surpass Mont-Royal(234meters) in height.

Our current tallest are:

1000 de la Gauchetière - 51 stories-205 meters
1250 René-Lévesqeu(AKA: IBM building) - 47 stories-199meters
Place Victoria(AKA: Stock Exchange tower) - 47 Stories-190 meters
Place Ville Marie - 45 Stories - 188 meters
1155 René-Lévesque (AKA: CIBC building) 43 Stories-187 meters
1501 McGill College -34 Stories- 158 meters
Complexe Desjardins(South tower) - 40 stories- 150 meters
600 de Maisonneuve Ouest - 36 stories 146 meters

I think so. Or at least I hope so!

interesting, I would have to say it would have to somewhere close to the river, maybe on St.Jacques St. behind Marriot

If this ever happens again, I am hopping that it (or they) will cover up gaps in the city's skyline.
(If you drive on Victoria Bridge to Montreal, you will notice a large gap in the middle of the skyline)

A 50 storey tower will add the finishing touches to Montreal's skyline...if placed properly

Does Laval or Longueuil have height restrictions also? I can see a 50 storey or greater in either of those two places. An awesome view of MTL island and beside a metro.

Does Laval or Longueuil have height restrictions also? I can see a 50 storey or greater in either of those two places. An awesome view of MTL island and beside a metro.

As far as I know, i don't believe either Laval or Longueuil have height restrcitions...but you have to remember that they aren't very big cities(Laval: 350,000 and Longueuil: 385,000)

Laval has soooooooooooooooooo much empty space (forests) that I can't see this happening.... I think half of the Laval island is still forests.

But there's many mid rises being built around the new metros... a cluster of 10 6-8 stories are being built right next to a station at this moment.

A 50 storey tower will add the finishing touches to Montreal's skyline...if placed properly

Any place in mind ?

If this ever happens again, I am hopping that it (or they) will cover up gaps in the city's skyline.
(If you drive on Victoria Bridge to Montreal, you will notice a large gap in the middle of the skyline)

I suspect that city planners want to keep a gap or two in the skyline in order to preserve both the views from Mount Royal, as well as the view of Mount Royal in the skyline. We have such designated view corridors in Halifax due to Citadel Hill.

I suspect that city planners want to keep a gap or two in the skyline in order to preserve both the views from Mount Royal, as well as the view of Mount Royal in the skyline. We have such designated view corridors in Halifax due to Citadel Hill.
good point, I never really thought of that, but it makes sense.

montreal could always remain a short city and perhaps have one very large centerpiece.... not all cities need to be tall...

I sure hope so, and I believe that it will happen in the next decade.

I sure hope so, and I believe that it will happen in the next decade.

Holy CRAP!

WHere have you been hiding MG...i haven't heard from you on SSP in over 2 years!?!?!

Any place in mind ?

1300 René-Lévesque(between the IBM Building and CCE 1), there's another empty lot right across the street from there(Next to la Queue de Cheval restaurant), THere'a another large lot on MAnsfield, between St-Jacques and St-Antoine.

how about Ile de Soeurs? Do height restrictions apply there?

how about Ile de Soeurs? Do height restrictions apply there?

I don't think so, but I doubt it'll happen there?! THe citizens of Nun's Island have been lobbying to prevent the contsruction of new towers on the island.
Apparently, it's OK for them to live there, but they don't want any newcomers!

You know just as well as I do that if anything tall (over 30 stories) ever gets built in this city, it'll be downtown.

I don't think so, but I doubt it'll happen there?! THe citizens of Nun's Island have been lobbying to prevent the contsruction of new towers on the island.
Apparently, it's OK for them to live there, but they don't want any newcomers!

You know just as well as I do that if anything tall (over 30 stories) ever gets built in this city, it'll be downtown.
Or near the Longueuil metro terminus ;)
that would be hard to take for Montrealers ;)

Once again...i just don't see it happenning any time soon. True that there's a 17 storey office tower that'll be built right next to the Longueuil Metro station(University of SHerbrooke) and that there might even be a phase 2 to this project(14 storeys, in 2009) i just don't see another 30 storey residential tower in "downtown" longueuil anytime soon.

The condo Market on the south shore is different...most people don'T want to live in a huge appartment complexe style condo building...they prefer smaller(less than 10 sotries) buildings!

Holy CRAP!

WHere have you been hiding MG...i haven't heard from you on SSP in over 2 years!?!?!

I was recovering from a shark attack that occurred while I was diving on the Great Barrier Reef in Australia. But now I am back!!

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Damn you Molson Ex...i had forgotten that your previous board name was MG. :)

Welcome Mastodon Goard :wave:

Molson Export is my alter ego at skyscraperpage.com. :D

people over here don't like to live in big towers... they prefer their shacks.

people over here don't like to live in big towers... they prefer their shacks.

That, and the fact that you can still buy a 3 bedroom house in burbs less than 30 minutes from Downtown for less than 220,000$

Try finding that in Toronto or Vancouver. UNtil housing prices become too steep like in the other two canadian cities, Condo towers won'T be as popular in Montreal! Obviously, for SKyscraper fanatics like us, this might be viewed as a negative thing, but when you don't have a 400,000$ mortgage, it's a very good thing!

I don't think so, but I doubt it'll happen there?! THe citizens of Nun's Island have been lobbying to prevent the contsruction of new towers on the island.
Apparently, it's OK for them to live there, but they don't want any newcomers!

You know just as well as I do that if anything tall (over 30 stories) ever gets built in this city, it'll be downtown.

And what about "Les sommets sur le fleuve"? This is a massive residential development that have just been completed. Four 22 stories towers, with each floors hosting 8 luxury apartments roughly 1500 square feet?

Nun's Island doesn't care about skyscrapers, the only thing they will never allow is traffic lights. That's why there's already two roundabouts, and 3 more coming.

By the way, the golf driving range located on the northern side of Nun's Island has been sold. This new residential development will provide direct access to Bonaventure expressway. From there, downtown is only five minutes away! I've had access to the future road map, and there will be two roundabouts in this small part of Nun's Island, enough to allow a free flow for a lot of cars! Maybe there is some potential for a big structure? ;)

http://www2.ville.montreal.qc.ca/plan-urbanisme/pdf/2_4/050621_chapitre_24.pdf

Look on page 34, this is the development plan for the city of Verdun (including Nun's Island). If you look on the north part of it (24-C1), you can clearly see this area is now zoned as HIGH DENSITY, and classified as an "area to be built".

I bet this will become the "residential downtown" of Montreal. :)

"And what about "Les sommets sur le fleuve"? This is a massive residential development that have just been completed. Four 22 stories towers, with each floors hosting 8 luxury apartments roughly 1500 square feet?"

C'Est bien beau, mais ce sont tous des tours de Moyennes hauteur...c. à d. qu'elle n'auront pas plus de 25 étages, et notre conversation parlait de tours qui s'Approche plus du 50 étages. Même une tour de 30 étages...on a pas vu ca à Montréal depuis 1992...Les constructeurs on peur de construire plus ahut que 27 étages dasn cette ville!

Par contre, j'ai quand même bien hâte de voir ce qu'il vont faire avec le Driving Range à L'île des Soeurs.

@Habsfan: Je répliquais seulement à ton post dans lequel tu disais que les résident de l'Île-des-Soeurs fesait du lobbyisme pour empêcher toute nouvelle construction, ce qui est complètement faux, et j'ai précisé par un exemple. Je voulais mettre un terme à la désinformation.

Pour ce qui est de la grosseur du projet, oui c'est peut-être seulement 4 tours de ~22 étages, mais c'est quand même à une dizaine de minute de l'autoroute. Dans le cas de la pointe nord, c'est à 5 secondes, ce qui diminue d'autant le trajet vers le centre-ville. Si ce n'est pas un projet massif qui se dévelloppe à cet endroit, ce sera alors quelquechose d'extrêmement couteux que peu de gens pourront s'offrir ;)

OursNoir, c'est pas completement faux. J'ai bel et bien entendu parler de Nimbyism sur l'ile des soeurs.

Certaines personnes la bas ne veulent pas de tours.

The fact is, nothing is happening in Montreal. Except for some government institutional stuff, There is little real development going on. I can't imagine a 50 story office tower in Montreal ever happening. I could immagine one or two large residential buildings.

There are TONS of projects going on in Montreal, far more then one or two large residential towers ;)

Check out whats up in Montreal:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=321788&page=2&pp=20

Not really. Not by the standards of many other North American cities. Montreal has a number of nice projects, but a 50 story office tower will not be one of them.

"The fact is, nothing is happening in Montreal. Except for some government institutional stuff, There is little real development going on."

Ahhh the ignorance. Isn't it beautiful!

True that Montreal isn'T building 50 storey towers, but there are a number of mid rises and a shitload of low rises being built all across the city!

are there any Pics of new Projects or specs ? reguardless of size?

are there any Pics of new Projects or specs ? reguardless of size?

http://www.lessommets.com
http://www.verresurvert.com
http://www.truenorthproperties.com/french/current_quebec.html
http://www.samcon.ca/main.cfm?p=1010&l=fr&ProjetID=51
http://www.333sherbrooke.com/misc/presentation.php
http://www.beauxarts.ca
http://www.leriopelle.com/
http://www.lephenixnotredame.com/english.htm
http://www.801signature.com/fr/html/pho.html
http://www.condosleconcorde.com/Condos/index.htm
http://www.lacloserie.ca/
http://www.lesolano.com/
...

"The fact is, nothing is happening in Montreal. Except for some government institutional stuff, There is little real development going on."

Ahhh the ignorance. Isn't it beautiful!

True that Montreal isn'T building 50 storey towers, but there are a number of mid rises and a shitload of low rises being built all across the city!

Habsfan, it was not ignorance that fuled my statement--I'm aware of the "number of mid rises" and "shitload of lowrises", that's the point I'm making! Montreal is doing fine, but by the standards of other NA cities, it's nothing to write home about. I'm not attacking the city itself, just stating the obvious about it's present highrise development prospects.

thanks

"The fact is, nothing is happening in Montreal. Except for some government institutional stuff, There is little real development going on"

You'll forgive me if I took as an Arrogant comment, seeing as you said nothing was going on!

Anyways, it's not the end of theworld...water under the bridge!

bah the number of 50 stories buildings isn't an indication of the activity in the city.

You have to look at the construction value permits issued is a good indication.

I agree, Montreal has some nice condos comming soon .

Yep, Tons of Mid-Rise Condos, and lots of small rise rise too ! Montreal is doing great in terms of contruction in North America.

I say ten years from now after we're done gentrifying, etc, we'll see more highrises being built.

The office market is in a slow period right now. If you know anything about commercial real estate market is that there are highs and lows. Right now we are in a low period. WHen the market gets hot, there will be some office construction.

Now that might take another 5 or 10 years, but it'll happen!

The office market is in a slow period right now. If you know anything about commercial real estate market is that there are highs and lows. Right now we are in a low period. WHen the market gets hot, there will be some office construction.

Now that might take another 5 or 10 years, but it'll happen!

And one must admit that we are a lot better off now than we were ten years ago, when nearly nothing was getting built.
What we have now is small, but its a start.

what about the other main Cities in Quebec , is there much growth there as well?

Quebec City has smalls projects going up

Montreal also has a hieght restriction, I rather see more mid rises filling up the spaces then have our tallest towers with similar hieghts.

what about the other main Cities in Quebec , is there much growth there as well?

its crazy, not high rises, but mostly mid rises and seas of bungalows, commercial centers etc.

All around of Montreal its buzzing.

see you dont hear much about that out here . the west talk about how we feel seperated from the Rest of Canada.... We dont really hear much news from any where except B.C. , Alberta ( a little from Sask ) and Ont. thats it. We dont even hear sh*t about Manitoba. We are the one ( sometimes it feels) that are thinking about seperating.

Value of building permits, by census metropolitan area (monthly) January 2006

Montréal (Que.) 470M$
Toronto 894M$
Calgary (Alta.) 321M$
Edmonton (Alta.) 274M$
Vancouver (B.C.) 412M$

BY PROVINCE for residential only in 2005

Quebec 7,888.6M$
Ontario 14,926.4M$
Alberta 6,048.4M$
B.C. 6,979.0M$

considering that construction costs are more expensive in Ontario and in the west, this puts in perspective the Montreal/Quebec numbers.

... they prefer their shacks.
Shacks?!? This city boasts the finest housing stock in the country! I can't stand the low ceilings I more often find west of this province.

Cheers,
Chris