http://www.bosmal.com/images/bosmal_city_centar/bcc_slika3.jpg
BOSMAL CITY CENTER

Bosmal City Center, the first condominium in this part of the world, is being constructed in the Hrasno district of Sarajevo. By condominium we mean a modern, private residential building with monitored entrances, reception, luxurious apartments and common areas serving the residents. Access to the residential and common areas of the object shall be restricted to the residents only, where their privacy is absolutely guaranteed. Common areas encompass lobbies, saunas, pool for adults and children, and a nursery. The most modern international technology and construction equipment is being used in the construction of this object, which began in November, 2001.

The Center offers 306 residential units, with 8 penthouses and 298 apartments, organised in 14 types, with areas ranging from 80 to 220 sq. m. Nine high-speed elevators connect to the garage-commercial area of the center. The residents will be absolutely secure, with special security service responsible for constant monitoring of the whole object, with 200 surveillance cameras on duty, sensors and other modern equipment.

The communication areas in the center, commercial areas and the underground garage with 400 parking lots are monitored from the reception point.

http://www.bosmal.com/images/bosmal_city_centar/bcc_slika1.jpg

Reaching a height of 118 meters, Bosmal City Center is the tallest residential building in the Balkans. A restaurant will be located at the highest point of the building, giving a panoramic view of the town, including the historical districts as well as the new part of town and its surroundings.
The commercial area will be open to the public, with two restaurants and a meeting bar, supermarket, hair and beauty saloons, dental practice, ambulance service, ophthalmologist’s and optician’s, leather goods boutique, art sales, jewelry shop and other exclusive boutiques. All the facilities within the center are inter-linked with a hundred-meter long promenade.

The value of the overall investment is 80 million EUR, being the biggest direct foreign greenfield investment in BiH. Participation of domestic companies from Bosnia and Herzegovina in construction and furnishing of this object amounts to 70%. The project engages over 65 companies with more than 3,500 workers.

Bosmal d.o.o. is indirectly contributing to the development of Sarajevo's infrastructure by regular settlements representing payment of all its obligations to the government. Projects such as the Fifth transit road and the bridge over the Miljacka river, which will link the main avenue of the city with the Bosmal City Center are being financed out of those funds.

Construction of the Bosmal City Center condominium, Sarajevo's "city within the city", signifies the beginning of a new concept of investments and modern construction in BiH, and the introduction of a new way of living.

very nice and impressive. any other pictures of this.

Orange and green:D
These 2 highrises are almost finished right Mimica?
I've seen renderings in Sarajevo Pictures Mila posted a while back and my honest opinion on this is that i like their height and they represent exactly what the article says they do Condominiums so dont expect them to equal those twin glass facade towers (soon to be 3?!) built in the 80's.;)

Orange and green:D
These 2 highrises are almost finished right Mimica?
I've seen renderings in Sarajevo Pictures Mila posted a while back and my honest opinion on this is that i like their height and they represent exactly what the article says they do Condominiums so dont expect them to equal those twin glass facade towers (soon to be 3?!) built in the 80's.;)

Yeah, they should do be relatively soon. :)

Orange and green:D
These 2 highrises are almost finished right Mimica?
I've seen renderings in Sarajevo Pictures Mila posted a while back and my honest opinion on this is that i like their height and they represent exactly what the article says they do Condominiums so dont expect them to equal those twin glass facade towers (soon to be 3?!) built in the 80's.;)

There is a good reason why they paint them in those weird colors. That 's why Sarajevo is not what it used to be. Lets not start the trouble ,nice project.

There is a good reason why they paint them in those weird colors. That 's why Sarajevo is not what it used to be. Lets not start the trouble ,nice project.

:weirdo: What a load of bull c...

There is a good reason why they paint them in those weird colors. That 's why Sarajevo is not what it used to be. Lets not start the trouble ,nice project.

You really amaze me. :ohno:

There is a good reason why they paint them in those weird colors. That 's why Sarajevo is not what it used to be. Lets not start the trouble ,nice project.

Why are you politicising a commercial venture? Besides, its a luxury condo, there are no condo's presently in Sarajevo! Its not targeted at the average Bosnians but at wealthy Bosnian diaspora, diplomatic staff and international organisations.

Anyways, it'll be a nice addition to the Sarajevo skyline.

Sorry I wont be posting too much in your section. Last time I was in Sarajevo was in 1987 when my momy bought me a bmx bike on Marijin Dvor. It was raining and cold day.

lol whats the reason for painting them in orange and green ? what do these colours represent rancher???
anyway on the other side of the condominium (its not shown on the pics) there is a RED colour facade..

lol whats the reason for painting them in orange and green ? what do these colours represent rancher???
anyway on the other side of the condominium (its not shown on the pics) there is a RED colour facade..

:cheers: Damn Muslim Commies :D :naughty:

:rofl:

but no really.. i mean what do the green and orange colors represent,that it bothers Rancher so much ?? i dont get it :|

Don't worry about his comment. It's obvious that he tried to make up some worthless reason for two skyscrapers being painted certain colors.
The only way it'd be linked to politics is if the words "Mother Serbia" were painted along the skyscrapers. :|

The only way it'd be linked to politics is if the words "Mother Serbia" were painted along the skyscrapers. :|

:drunk: oh sorry just thought it changed names. :naughty:

OK being serious now :angel: , can someone please find out how the sales and work (just seems so slow) are going (because they seem to avoid mentioning any real facts) :?

All I know is that the interior is getting it's final touches of work. Most construction projects build the frame in a second (which seems like the hardest part) and then take their sweet-ass time getting the facade and interior done.

I always thought they were building it as they were selling the places, kind of stupid when i think about it now but its the only thing the explains they long ass time its taking to finish it. It was supposed to be finished last year.

I always thought they were building it as they were selling the places, kind of stupid when i think about it now but its the only thing the explains they long ass time its taking to finish it. It was supposed to be finished last year.

From what I understand they are building it for the luxury end of the market, which has yet to be fullfilled.

One tower from what I was told is a serviced apartment. Which means, its an apartment but with facilities like a hotel, a reception hall, room making facilities, the works. So it will be furnished by Bosmal.

Most major international organisations, diplomats when they first arrive in Sarajevo operate out of the Holiday Inn hotel, usually operating on months on end, The Holiday Inn hotel from my experience is far from luxurious, especially when compared to standards to the outside world. So given the semi long term presence of these international organisations, Bosmal service apartments is planned to meet those needs.

From what I understand they are building it for the luxury end of the market, which has yet to be fullfilled.

One tower from what I was told is a serviced apartment. Which means, its an apartment but with facilities like a hotel, a reception hall, room making facilities, the works. So it will be furnished by Bosmal.

Most major international organisations, diplomats when they first arrive in Sarajevo operate out of the Holiday Inn hotel, usually operating on months on end, The Holiday Inn hotel from my experience is far from luxurious, especially when compared to standards to the outside world. So given the semi long term presence of these international organisations, Bosmal service apartments is planned to meet those needs.

I was in the Holiday Inn less than 2 months ago. It's extremely luxurious, and has great service. The whole extrance of the hotel is magnificant. Fountains with nice clean water, soft music playing in the background and the employees getting anything you want...it's heaven!

These towers are much too bulky and not terribly elegant. The colour scheme is nonsensical. Still, if it proves to be a success, it may spurn some nice development.

I was in the Holiday Inn less than 2 months ago. It's extremely luxurious, and has great service. The whole extrance of the hotel is magnificant. Fountains with nice clean water, soft music playing in the background and the employees getting anything you want...it's heaven!

The Holiday Inn is officially rated as 3 star class hotel!! Out of a possible rating of 5 stars.

There are far more luxurious hotels in the region. Shereton in Zagreb is a 4 star hotel.

In terms of what Sarajevo has got to offer in hotels it is definately the best in town but in terms of the demanding and discerning globe trotters, it falls far from what they are used to. Far from what I'm used to!

These towers are much too bulky and not terribly elegant. The colour scheme is nonsensical. Still, if it proves to be a success, it may spurn some nice development.
Compared to the commie blocks that surround them, they are a huge improvement. I guess you have not seen the color scheme of some of the newly restored buildings in Sarajevo. :shocked: :D

The Holiday Inn is officially rated as 3 star class hotel!! Out of a possible rating of 5 stars.

There are far more luxurious hotels in the region. Shereton in Zagreb is a 4 star hotel.

In terms of what Sarajevo has got to offer in hotels it is definately the best in town but in terms of the demanding and discerning globe trotters, it falls far from what they are used to. Far from what I'm used to!

I agree, Sarajevo does need more hotels. I do think that there are steps being taken to reach the goal. In Bjelasnica, there is a huge hotel being built.

The Holiday Inn is officially rated as 3 star class hotel!! Out of a possible rating of 5 stars.

There are far more luxurious hotels in the region. Shereton in Zagreb is a 4 star hotel.

In terms of what Sarajevo has got to offer in hotels it is definately the best in town but in terms of the demanding and discerning globe trotters, it falls far from what they are used to. Far from what I'm used to!

Last time I checked officially its 4 star hotel that’s what’s posted on the outside wall of the hotel. The employees claim that they received the 5 star :dunno: .

I agree, Sarajevo does need more hotels. I do think that there are steps being taken to reach the goal. In Bjelasnica, there is a huge hotel being built.
Where???? I only heard of apartments so far.

Compared to the commie blocks that surround them, they are a huge improvement. I guess you have not seen the color scheme of some of the newly restored buildings in Sarajevo. :shocked: :D

Yeah, that's a good point. Condominiums shouldn't be compared with commie blocks at the same time but with other condominums.

These guys are not the most horrible things ever, but by the way they are advertising it, I expected more of it. I know it's a first in this region, so I'm not actually trying to sound particularily harsh. My main problem is the bulkiness.

Yeah, that's a good point. Condominiums shouldn't be compared with commie blocks at the same time but with other condominums.

These guys are not the most horrible things ever, but by the way they are advertising it, I expected more of it. I know it's a first in this region, so I'm not actually trying to sound particularily harsh. My main problem is the bulkiness.

I do agree, the "bulkiness" is pretty bad. The design is quite nice though. The two buildings look great, and are a huge investment for the Balkans.

No offense, but do you really need another thread just for one project? I mean it's not that grand. Just my opinion.

Last time I checked officially its 4 star hotel that’s what’s posted on the outside wall of the hotel. The employees claim that they received the 5 star :dunno: .

Last I checked it was in the 3 star class of hotels.
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-hotel-384372-holiday_inn-i;_ylt=AttdyWgJhKSsFLIqb9papLDFHmoL


Anyways compare it to the in Sheraton Zagreb, which is in 4 star class.
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-hotel-339566-sheraton_zagreb_hotel-i;_ylt=AmajvUEsV0kSke3FHUmbydAJ8b8F

Just look at the services provided

Sheraton
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/sheraton/search/hotel_detail.html?city=&stateProvince=&country=&postalCode=&hotelLocationType=&pOI=&arrivalDate=&departureDate=&lengthOfStay=&numberOfRooms=&numberOfAdults=&amenityType1=&amenityType2=&amenityType3=&nState1=&nState2=&nCity1=&nCity2=&requestedChainCode=&requestedAffiliationCode=&propertyID=316&returnURL=&promotionCode=&corporateAccountNumber=&rcdi=&iATANumber=&groupBlockID=&ratePlanName=&starwoodPreferredGuest=&fromSearch=&H=250&W=491

Holiday Inn
http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/hi/1/en/hd/sjjbh

If the employees say they recieved the 5 star, that means they are on the same ranks as the Savoy and Dorchester Hotel in London, the Ritz in Paris, the Wladorf Astoria or the St. Regis in NY. Trust me folks, the Holiday inn is far from a 5 star.

Last I checked it was in the 3 star class of hotels.
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-hotel-384372-holiday_inn-i;_ylt=AttdyWgJhKSsFLIqb9papLDFHmoL


Anyways compare it to the in Sheraton Zagreb, which is in 4 star class.
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-hotel-339566-sheraton_zagreb_hotel-i;_ylt=AmajvUEsV0kSke3FHUmbydAJ8b8F

Just look at the services provided

Sheraton
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/sheraton/search/hotel_detail.html?city=&stateProvince=&country=&postalCode=&hotelLocationType=&pOI=&arrivalDate=&departureDate=&lengthOfStay=&numberOfRooms=&numberOfAdults=&amenityType1=&amenityType2=&amenityType3=&nState1=&nState2=&nCity1=&nCity2=&requestedChainCode=&requestedAffiliationCode=&propertyID=316&returnURL=&promotionCode=&corporateAccountNumber=&rcdi=&iATANumber=&groupBlockID=&ratePlanName=&starwoodPreferredGuest=&fromSearch=&H=250&W=491

Holiday Inn
http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/hi/1/en/hd/sjjbh

If the employees say they recieved the 5 star, that means they are on the same ranks as the Savoy and Dorchester Hotel in London, the Ritz in Paris, the Wladorf Astoria or the St. Regis in NY. Trust me folks, the Holiday inn is far from a 5 star.

Have you ever been to that particular Holiday Inn or are you basing this on yahoo travel. It is named Holiday Inn but it is basically a Crown Plaza type hotel.

Have you ever been to that particular Holiday Inn or are you basing this on yahoo travel. It is named Holiday Inn but it is basically a Crown Plaza type hotel.

I have been there (Holiday Inn), stayed there for a week. Sometimes I go have coffee at the cafe over there. I am basing this on experience.

I have been there (Holiday Inn), stayed there for a week. Sometimes I go have coffee at the cafe over there. I am basing this on experience.
If so, then look at the name plate next to the main entrance. :sleepy:

If so, then look at the name plate next to the main entrance. :sleepy:

Will do next time I'm in Sarajevo, which should be at the end of this month, WOOHOO!!

Anyways, I was told it was the Holiday Inn, the Bosnians I was with called it that too. I didn't know it was called the "crown plaza". Anyways the name is absolutely irrelavent, its just branding from the Intercontinental group of Hotels.

My point was that its still a fairly, unluxurious hotel, especially to foreigners, international organisations, business community who first arrive to Sarajevo, this is by hotel standards, most hotels in the world that cater to these distinct clients have far better facilities. However in terms of Sarajevo standards, its "the best" hotel in town.

I love having coffee and cakes there, they still use the olympic logo plates, a left over from the good days of the winter olympics.

Will do next time I'm in Sarajevo, which should be at the end of this month, WOOHOO!!

Anyways, I was told it was the Holiday Inn, the Bosnians I was with called it that too. I didn't know it was called the "crown plaza". Anyways the name is absolutely irrelavent, its just branding from the Intercontinental group of Hotels.

My point was that its still a fairly, unluxurious hotel, especially to foreigners, international organisations, business community who first arrive to Sarajevo, this is by hotel standards, most hotels in the world that cater to these distinct clients have far better facilities. However in terms of Sarajevo standards, its "the best" hotel in town.

I love having coffee and cakes there, they still use the olympic logo plates, a left over from the good days of the winter olympics.

Holiday Inn is the name because before the Olympics when it was built in ex-yu people new about Holiday Inn (that who they had the licensing/brand agreement with) and not Crown Plaza (the luxury brand of Holiday Inn at the time), Intercontinental did not show interest for the project. It was the same hotel group (holiday inn/crown plaza) at the time but they didn’t want to put a name which was not known in the area. So the name stuck. You have to admit that it’s a little to luxurious for your run-of-the-mill Holiday Inn (let’s not even talk about the design).
It’s up to the new ownership to decide if they continue with this brand or change it (they have no real obligations to HI), problem is it has become an icon (with this name) and a symbol of the city’s last 25 yrs. Trust me Holiday Inn has not complained that they still have the name, just think all the publicity they have had with it. :)

Holiday Inn is the name because before the Olympics when it was built in ex-yu people new about Holiday Inn (that who they had the licensing/brand agreement with) and not Crown Plaza (the luxury brand of Holiday Inn at the time), Intercontinental did not show interest for the project. It was the same hotel group (holiday inn/crown plaza) at the time but they didn’t want to put a name which was not known in the area. So the name stuck. You have to admit that it’s a little to luxurious for your run-of-the-mill Holiday Inn (let’s not even talk about the design).
It’s up to the new ownership to decide if they continue with this brand or change it (they have no real obligations to HI), problem is it has become an icon (with this name) and a symbol of the city’s last 25 yrs. Trust me Holiday Inn has not complained that they still have the name, just think all the publicity they have had with it. :)

So its not part of the Intercontinental Group of Hotels?

Does anyone have any new pics?

So its not part of the Intercontinental Group of Hotels?
At the time it was built, NO.

the Holiday Inn in Sarajevo is in the Holiday Inn chain still, just look it up.

Once more hotels are built in Sarajevo, the Holiday Inn won’t be that big of a deal. I’m sure that some huge new hotel will be built somewhere in New Sarajevo.

When will that be? are 5 star hotels in Sarajevo justified? Commercially viable?

Holiday Inn's have a good reputation in Europe and Asia, they aren't seen as your typical 'Airport Inn' if you like style that you would get in the States. Sorry if this might be off topic, but if you're used to the truck stop holiday inn that you'll get in the US, visit the Holiday Inn in Seoul will truly change your perspective of Holiday Inns forever. I'd imagine the Holiday Inn in Sarajevo would be spectacular, because there is an absence of big international hotels that you would find in Zagreb.

There are far more luxurious hotels in the region. Shereton in Zagreb is a 4 star hotel.
There's also the Regent Hotel in Zagreb, now that hotel is what I call luxurious.

Well Sarajevo was not really a big city so really it did not need many hotels, but now that it has a bigger population then before it is getting more, for a fact I know the Holiday Inn owners are building a new hotel, not sure how many stories but I think 23

Holiday Inn's have a good reputation in Europe and Asia, they aren't seen as your typical 'Airport Inn' if you like style that you would get in the States. Sorry if this might be off topic, but if you're used to the truck stop holiday inn that you'll get in the US, visit the Holiday Inn in Seoul will truly change your perspective of Holiday Inns forever. I'd imagine the Holiday Inn in Sarajevo would be spectacular, because there is an absence of big international hotels that you would find in Zagreb.

Well its spectacular in Sarajevo, but like I said in terms of hotel standards it really does remind me of a 3 star hotel. Not fancy at all.

Well Sarajevo was not really a big city so really it did not need many hotels, but now that it has a bigger population then before it is getting more, for a fact I know the Holiday Inn owners are building a new hotel, not sure how many stories but I think 23

Exactly, is it commercially viable to build nice hotels? I hope this new hotel would be better than the current holiday inn.

Exactly, is it commercially viable to build nice hotels? I hope this new hotel would be better than the current holiday inn.

well yes and no, there is a lot of tourism but just not enough to build huge hotels yet, of course it is getting better and there is plans like the new one that the Holiday Inn owners are planing to build. we do not have like a hilton yet because the city is just not yet suitable for that kind of hotel, maybe in like 5 years we will actually get a boost in hotel development, but yah there is hotels geting built now but just not 5 star great ones.

Though I can guarantee you that when they do start building newer hotels they won't be small or ugly, I have seen some pictures of a proposal hotel and it looks very nice, its all in glass and is 16 floors high, hotel Gurche or something like that. :)

I'll try and get the pics up

oh and about the new hotel from the Holiday Inn owners, they are thinking glass :bow:

^^ yaa theyre gonna totally change the look around Holiday Inn and the Unitic twin towers :D btw the new owner of Holiday Inn is Grand Media Hotel & Convenience Center?

^^ yaa theyre gonna totally change the look around Holiday Inn and the Unitic twin towers :D btw the new owner of Holiday Inn is Grand Media Hotel & Convenience Center?

duno lol, hope so

Yeah they signed a deal in 2003 or 2002 with HYPO ALPE-ADRIA-BANK to get a loan of about 60 million Euros (i could be wrong dont quote me on this one) and the new owner was supposed to build a Smart Media Tower (i dont know what that means) As bloodsaric says it was supposed to 22-23 floors but since then there has been no news on the subject. If you go to the archived Sarajevo threads you will see people talking about it but then poof nothing :(

Malaysia's Islamic Bank facing bankrupcy , because of finanincing bad clients...top on the list, BOSMAL projects in Bosnia


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Afere: Islamska banka Malezije u gubicima zbog kreditiranja Bosmal City Centra u Sarajevu
Bosmal u crno zavio Maleziju

Iz Kuala Lumpura u Sarajevo stižu finansijski istražitelji! Razlog je skandal koji potresa Maleziju: Islamska banka ove zemlje, inače pod državnom kontrolom, zapala je u tešku finansijsku krizu zbog kreditiranja loših klijenata. Prvi na listi je sarajevski Bosmal City Centar, najviša zgrada na Balkanu, koja je trebala davno biti završena?! Malezijske novine objavile su, u međuvremenu, da je malezijski direktor Bosmala ustvrdio kako je još 2003. sa Vijećem ministara dogovorio izgradnju Koridora 5C?!

Pise: Esad Hecimovic


Neko ne govori istinu...
ili u Bosmalu ili u Vijeću ministara!

"Islamska banka Malezije sarađuje blisko sa policijom, Antikorupcijskom agencijom i Centralnom bankom Malezije kako bi istražila gubitak od 480 miliona RM (malezijskih ringita) u svom ogranku u Labuanu", saopćio je u petak, 28. oktobra 2005., novi generalni direktor ove banke Datuk Noorazman A. Aziz. Prema njegovom objašnjenju, "banka je okupila tim viših menadžera i vanjskih profesionalaca kako bi izvršila kontrolu u ogranku Labuan, gdje je dodijeljena većina loših kredita, zbog kojih je banka dospjela u gubitke".

"Nismo u mogućnosti da govorimo o detaljima zato što je istraga u toku, ali kada jednom istraga bude okončana, zatražit ćemo krivično gonjenje", rekao je Noorazman.

Skandal u Maleziji
Samo dan ranije, u malezijskom parlamentu je vođena rasprava o gubicima ove banke. Bank Islam Malaysia Bhd. je u vlasništvu BIMB Holdings Bhd., kompanije koja je pod kontrolom Vlade Malezije. Ova kompanija je početkom mjeseca objavila da je poslovala sa 456,4 miliona ringita (121,7 miliona američkih dolara; 100,8 miliona eura) gubitka.

Vlada i zvaničnici kompanije su ukazali da gubici potiču zbog velikih provizija za nevraćene kredite date kompanijama u Sarajevu, Bosna i Hercegovina, i Južnoj Africi. Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, malezijski premijer, najavio je punu istragu i kažnjavanje krivaca: "U protivnom, ljudi će pomisliti da mi ne poduzimamo ništa protiv krivaca i na duži rok oni neće vjerovati u ovu banku i to će ugroziti njen integritet", rekao je premijer za malezijsku nacionalnu novinsku agenciju Bernama.

Njegova vlada intenzivno promovira Maleziju kao središte islamskih finansija i bankarstva. Zbog toga su gubici u najvećoj i najstarijoj islamskoj banci ove zemlje veliki simbolički i stvarni udar njegovim nastojanjima. Vlada Malezije nastoji da pretvori maleno ostrvo Labuan, na obali Sabaha i Bruneja, u takvo međunarodno bankarsko i finansijsko središte. Loši krediti davani su upravo u ovom ogranku Islamske banke Malezije.

Gubici su otkriveni nakon smjene menadžera na čelu banke u Kuala Lumpuru i u njenom ogranku u Labuanu. Raniji generalni direktor Islamske banke Malezije Datuk Ahmad Tajudin Abdul Rahman je penzionisan sa 1. julom 2004. godine. Do decembra prošle godine, uredu u Labuanu je smanjena autonomija, pretvaranjem iz podružnice u ogranak matične banke. Od januara 2005. su krenule nevolje. Striktnija kontrola je pokazala da su gubici daleko veći nego što je centrala u Kuala Lumpuru očekivala. Noorazman je preuzeo upravu nad Islamskom bankom Malezije u aprilu i poduzeo široku reorganizaciju. Tako su otkriveni gubici.

Krediti su davani širokogrudno, bez dovoljnog rauzmijevanja uključenih rizika. Početna istraga je pokazala da su krediti davani bez potpunih provjera dužnika, projekata i kompanija koje oni predstavljaju. Nikada nije obavljan due diligence, prethodno potpuno sagledavanje poslovanja. Nije bilo čak ni pravilnog sistema monitoringa. Krediti su davani lokalnim i stranim strankama putem BILL-a (Bank Islam Lauban Ltd.) za projekte u Južnoj Africi i BiH, odnosno Sarajevu. Neki od ovih stranih kredita su dati kompanijama uključenim u građevinske i stambene projekte, navodi se u brojnim lokalnim i međunarodnim izvještajima o ovom bankarskom skandalu. Javnost je iznenađena takvim gubicima u ovoj staroj i velikoj banci jer se vjerovalo da ona posluje po jasnim principima.

Milioni za Bosmal
Ali, za bosansku javnost, ključno je pitanje o kojoj kompaniji, kojem projektu i kojem kreditu BILL-a je riječ u ovoj priči o gubicima. Javnosti u BiH su poznata dva primjera nastupa malezijskih građevinskih kompanija. U prvom je riječ o Bosmalu i Bosmal City Centru, u sarajevskom naselju Hrasno. Projekat je dijelom finansiran upravo iz kredita ogranka Islamske banke u Labuanu. Ugovor između Bank Islam Labuan Ltd. (BILL) i Bosmala d.o.o. o kreditu od 20 miliona američkih dolara (76 milina RM) potpisan je u martu 2001. godine. U ime banke ugovor su potpisali direktor Datuk Ahmad Tajudin Abdul Rahman i finansijski direktor Raja Zainal Alam Shah Raja Abdullah Omar, a u ime Bosmala Hassan Jamaludin i Nijaz Šabanović.

Bilo je to u ceremonijalnoj, simboličnoj ravni važnog međudržavnog posla. Potpisu su svjedočili tadašnji premijer Malezije dr. Muhamed Mahathir i dr. Halid Genjac, tadašnji predsjedavajući Predsjedništva BiH. Genjac je na mjestu predsjednika Predsjedništva BiH naslijedio Aliju Izetbegovića u oktobru 2000. i od 19. do 21. marta 2001. boravio je u privatnoj posjeti Maleziji. Kredit je dat za kupovinu zemljišta i izgradnju stambeno-komercijalnog kompleksa. Nije bio uspješan pokušaj da se kontaktiraju odgovorne osobe u kompaniji Bosmal d.o.o. Na jedan broj telefona niko nije odgovarao ni nakon više poziva, a na drugom je bio stalno uključen faks.

Osnivač i predsjednik kompanije Datuk Hassan Jamaludin je u izjavama za malezijske novine Business Times od 19. oktobra 2005. objasnio dva osnovna projekta ove kompanije u BiH: Bosmal City Centar i Koridor 5C. Prema njegovim objašnjenjima, Hassan je krajem devedesetih godina napustio sve poslove u Maleziji kako bi se izborio za poslove u BiH. Bosmal City Centar nudi 306 stambenih jedinica u najvišoj stambenoj zgradi na Balkanu. Ukupno ulaganje u ovaj projekat iznosi 320 miliona RM, a očekuje se prodaja u iznosu od 571 milion RM. Službeno objavljena vrijednost investicije u Bosmal City Centar jeste 80 miliona eura. Nije poznato iz kojih izvora potiče ostatak sredstava potrebnih za izgradnju Bosmal City Centra.

Prema navodima datim u tekstu, čiji je izvor upravo Hassan, većinu sredstava dala je Bank Islam Malaysia Bhd. (BIMB) kroz svoju podružnicu u Labuanu, čak 207 miliona RM, ili skoro dvije trećine vrijednosti investicije. Navodi se da je daljnjih 87 miliona RM došlo iz evropskih banaka, ali se ne precizira iz kojih.

Hassan je još sredinom oktobra ove godine u izjavi za Business Times naveo da se BIMB složila da osigura određeno dodatno finansiranje kako bi se okončao projekat. "Finansijski mi smo snažni, sa očekivanom prodajom koja će daleko premašiti investirani iznos. Očekujemo da stambene jedinice kupi međunarodna zajendica, bogati Bošnjaci, stranci i prekomorski kupci", rekao je Hassan.

Londonski procjenjivač Knight Frank LLP je na zahtjev BIMB-a 27. maja 2005. godine procijenio trenutnu vrijednost BCC-a na 354 miliona RM. U članku se navodi da je procjenu tražila banka uoči dodatnog finansiranja projekta.

Sa još više optimizma, Hassan je govorio o Bosmalovom projektu autoputa: "Bosmal d.o.o., bosansko-malezijski joint venture, dobio je projekat izgradnje autoputa vrijedan 17 milijardi RM, koji će pomoći integrisanje nekada ratom podijeljene zemlje sa njenim evropskim susjedima. Koridor 5C, dug 330 km, dio je transevropske mreže, koja prolazi kroz Srednju i Istočnu Evropu. Autoput će skratiti vrijeme za putovanje iz Luke Ploče na obali Hrvatske do rijeke Save na sjeveroistoku BiH sa sadašnjih šest do sedam sati na svega tri sata", objavio je Business Times, na osnovu razgovora sa Hassanom.

Šta je istina o Koridoru
"Studija isplativosti je završena, i rad na projektu će početi 2006. godine. Završavamo finansiranje sa nekoliko američkih i evropskih banaka", rekao je Hassan, dodajući da, ukoliko bude uspješan, Bosmal će ubirati putarinu sa Koridora 5C narednih četrdeset godina. "Na projektu će biti angažovane velike količine novca, radne snage, materijala i opreme, i mogao bi da pokrene ekonomiju cijele zemlje", dodao je Hassan.

U članku se navodi da je Hassan osigurao dobijanje projekta autoputa, podnoseći projekat Vijeću ministara u junu 2003. godine. "Vjerujem da ono što ih je privuklo našem prijedlogu jeste to što je 70 posto izvođača radova lokalno i što će se sastojati od Srba, Hrvata i Bošnjaka. Već imamo spisak sa 150 lokalnih izvođača radova za ovaj projekat. Tamo gdje ne možemo pronaći lokalnu opremu ili stručnost, tražit ćemo vanjske izvođače iz Sjedinjenih Država i Austrije", rekao je Hassan za članak koji je objavljen u malezijskom Business Timesu 19. oktobra 2005. godine.

Takve najave nisu poznate u bh. javnosti. Naprotiv, koliko je ovdje poznato, Bosmalu ne samo da nije dodijeljen projekat izgradnje autoputa - Koridora 5C, nego se Vijeće ministara konačno odlučilo za međunarodni tender. Prva je mogućnost, da neko ne govori istinu - ili u Bosmalu ili u Vijeću ministara! Postoji i druga mogućnost - da je cijela najava da je Bosmalu dodijeljena izgradnja autoputa a da BIMB procjenjuje vrijednost urađenog u Hrasnom samo zbog dodatnog finansiranja, jednostavno priča za umirenje malezijske javnosti. I opozicioni lideri i ključni Vladini zvaničnici najavljuju da neće biti prikrivanja uzroka niti krivaca u ovom bankarskom skandalu. U parlamentu je zatraženo otkrivanje imena kompanija i zvaničnika odgovornih za gubitke banke. Iz Kuala Lumpura najavljuju da će uskoro stići istražitelji radi intervjua i u Sarajevo.

^^ I love how you only post bad news in our threads. :hahano: The Bosmal City Center won't go curropt, because there are hundereds of funds willing to support it.

^^ I love how you only post bad news in our threads. :hahano: The Bosmal City Center won't go curropt, because there are hundereds of funds willing to support it.

I like him cuz he sucks at life :)

Malaysia's Islamic Bank facing bankrupcy , because of finanincing bad clients...top on the list, BOSMAL projects in Bosnia


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Afere: Islamska banka Malezije u gubicima zbog kreditiranja Bosmal City Centra u Sarajevu
Bosmal u crno zavio Maleziju

Iz Kuala Lumpura u Sarajevo stižu finansijski istražitelji! Razlog je skandal koji potresa Maleziju: Islamska banka ove zemlje, inače pod državnom kontrolom, zapala je u tešku finansijsku krizu zbog kreditiranja loših klijenata. Prvi na listi je sarajevski Bosmal City Centar, najviša zgrada na Balkanu, koja je trebala davno biti završena?! Malezijske novine objavile su, u međuvremenu, da je malezijski direktor Bosmala ustvrdio kako je još 2003. sa Vijećem ministara dogovorio izgradnju Koridora 5C?!

Pise: Esad Hecimovic


Neko ne govori istinu...
ili u Bosmalu ili u Vijeću ministara!

"Islamska banka Malezije sarađuje blisko sa policijom, Antikorupcijskom agencijom i Centralnom bankom Malezije kako bi istražila gubitak od 480 miliona RM (malezijskih ringita) u svom ogranku u Labuanu", saopćio je u petak, 28. oktobra 2005., novi generalni direktor ove banke Datuk Noorazman A. Aziz. Prema njegovom objašnjenju, "banka je okupila tim viših menadžera i vanjskih profesionalaca kako bi izvršila kontrolu u ogranku Labuan, gdje je dodijeljena većina loših kredita, zbog kojih je banka dospjela u gubitke".

"Nismo u mogućnosti da govorimo o detaljima zato što je istraga u toku, ali kada jednom istraga bude okončana, zatražit ćemo krivično gonjenje", rekao je Noorazman.

Skandal u Maleziji
Samo dan ranije, u malezijskom parlamentu je vođena rasprava o gubicima ove banke. Bank Islam Malaysia Bhd. je u vlasništvu BIMB Holdings Bhd., kompanije koja je pod kontrolom Vlade Malezije. Ova kompanija je početkom mjeseca objavila da je poslovala sa 456,4 miliona ringita (121,7 miliona američkih dolara; 100,8 miliona eura) gubitka.

Vlada i zvaničnici kompanije su ukazali da gubici potiču zbog velikih provizija za nevraćene kredite date kompanijama u Sarajevu, Bosna i Hercegovina, i Južnoj Africi. Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, malezijski premijer, najavio je punu istragu i kažnjavanje krivaca: "U protivnom, ljudi će pomisliti da mi ne poduzimamo ništa protiv krivaca i na duži rok oni neće vjerovati u ovu banku i to će ugroziti njen integritet", rekao je premijer za malezijsku nacionalnu novinsku agenciju Bernama.

Njegova vlada intenzivno promovira Maleziju kao središte islamskih finansija i bankarstva. Zbog toga su gubici u najvećoj i najstarijoj islamskoj banci ove zemlje veliki simbolički i stvarni udar njegovim nastojanjima. Vlada Malezije nastoji da pretvori maleno ostrvo Labuan, na obali Sabaha i Bruneja, u takvo međunarodno bankarsko i finansijsko središte. Loši krediti davani su upravo u ovom ogranku Islamske banke Malezije.

Gubici su otkriveni nakon smjene menadžera na čelu banke u Kuala Lumpuru i u njenom ogranku u Labuanu. Raniji generalni direktor Islamske banke Malezije Datuk Ahmad Tajudin Abdul Rahman je penzionisan sa 1. julom 2004. godine. Do decembra prošle godine, uredu u Labuanu je smanjena autonomija, pretvaranjem iz podružnice u ogranak matične banke. Od januara 2005. su krenule nevolje. Striktnija kontrola je pokazala da su gubici daleko veći nego što je centrala u Kuala Lumpuru očekivala. Noorazman je preuzeo upravu nad Islamskom bankom Malezije u aprilu i poduzeo široku reorganizaciju. Tako su otkriveni gubici.

Krediti su davani širokogrudno, bez dovoljnog rauzmijevanja uključenih rizika. Početna istraga je pokazala da su krediti davani bez potpunih provjera dužnika, projekata i kompanija koje oni predstavljaju. Nikada nije obavljan due diligence, prethodno potpuno sagledavanje poslovanja. Nije bilo čak ni pravilnog sistema monitoringa. Krediti su davani lokalnim i stranim strankama putem BILL-a (Bank Islam Lauban Ltd.) za projekte u Južnoj Africi i BiH, odnosno Sarajevu. Neki od ovih stranih kredita su dati kompanijama uključenim u građevinske i stambene projekte, navodi se u brojnim lokalnim i međunarodnim izvještajima o ovom bankarskom skandalu. Javnost je iznenađena takvim gubicima u ovoj staroj i velikoj banci jer se vjerovalo da ona posluje po jasnim principima.

Milioni za Bosmal
Ali, za bosansku javnost, ključno je pitanje o kojoj kompaniji, kojem projektu i kojem kreditu BILL-a je riječ u ovoj priči o gubicima. Javnosti u BiH su poznata dva primjera nastupa malezijskih građevinskih kompanija. U prvom je riječ o Bosmalu i Bosmal City Centru, u sarajevskom naselju Hrasno. Projekat je dijelom finansiran upravo iz kredita ogranka Islamske banke u Labuanu. Ugovor između Bank Islam Labuan Ltd. (BILL) i Bosmala d.o.o. o kreditu od 20 miliona američkih dolara (76 milina RM) potpisan je u martu 2001. godine. U ime banke ugovor su potpisali direktor Datuk Ahmad Tajudin Abdul Rahman i finansijski direktor Raja Zainal Alam Shah Raja Abdullah Omar, a u ime Bosmala Hassan Jamaludin i Nijaz Šabanović.

Bilo je to u ceremonijalnoj, simboličnoj ravni važnog međudržavnog posla. Potpisu su svjedočili tadašnji premijer Malezije dr. Muhamed Mahathir i dr. Halid Genjac, tadašnji predsjedavajući Predsjedništva BiH. Genjac je na mjestu predsjednika Predsjedništva BiH naslijedio Aliju Izetbegovića u oktobru 2000. i od 19. do 21. marta 2001. boravio je u privatnoj posjeti Maleziji. Kredit je dat za kupovinu zemljišta i izgradnju stambeno-komercijalnog kompleksa. Nije bio uspješan pokušaj da se kontaktiraju odgovorne osobe u kompaniji Bosmal d.o.o. Na jedan broj telefona niko nije odgovarao ni nakon više poziva, a na drugom je bio stalno uključen faks.

Osnivač i predsjednik kompanije Datuk Hassan Jamaludin je u izjavama za malezijske novine Business Times od 19. oktobra 2005. objasnio dva osnovna projekta ove kompanije u BiH: Bosmal City Centar i Koridor 5C. Prema njegovim objašnjenjima, Hassan je krajem devedesetih godina napustio sve poslove u Maleziji kako bi se izborio za poslove u BiH. Bosmal City Centar nudi 306 stambenih jedinica u najvišoj stambenoj zgradi na Balkanu. Ukupno ulaganje u ovaj projekat iznosi 320 miliona RM, a očekuje se prodaja u iznosu od 571 milion RM. Službeno objavljena vrijednost investicije u Bosmal City Centar jeste 80 miliona eura. Nije poznato iz kojih izvora potiče ostatak sredstava potrebnih za izgradnju Bosmal City Centra.

Prema navodima datim u tekstu, čiji je izvor upravo Hassan, većinu sredstava dala je Bank Islam Malaysia Bhd. (BIMB) kroz svoju podružnicu u Labuanu, čak 207 miliona RM, ili skoro dvije trećine vrijednosti investicije. Navodi se da je daljnjih 87 miliona RM došlo iz evropskih banaka, ali se ne precizira iz kojih.

Hassan je još sredinom oktobra ove godine u izjavi za Business Times naveo da se BIMB složila da osigura određeno dodatno finansiranje kako bi se okončao projekat. "Finansijski mi smo snažni, sa očekivanom prodajom koja će daleko premašiti investirani iznos. Očekujemo da stambene jedinice kupi međunarodna zajendica, bogati Bošnjaci, stranci i prekomorski kupci", rekao je Hassan.

Londonski procjenjivač Knight Frank LLP je na zahtjev BIMB-a 27. maja 2005. godine procijenio trenutnu vrijednost BCC-a na 354 miliona RM. U članku se navodi da je procjenu tražila banka uoči dodatnog finansiranja projekta.

Sa još više optimizma, Hassan je govorio o Bosmalovom projektu autoputa: "Bosmal d.o.o., bosansko-malezijski joint venture, dobio je projekat izgradnje autoputa vrijedan 17 milijardi RM, koji će pomoći integrisanje nekada ratom podijeljene zemlje sa njenim evropskim susjedima. Koridor 5C, dug 330 km, dio je transevropske mreže, koja prolazi kroz Srednju i Istočnu Evropu. Autoput će skratiti vrijeme za putovanje iz Luke Ploče na obali Hrvatske do rijeke Save na sjeveroistoku BiH sa sadašnjih šest do sedam sati na svega tri sata", objavio je Business Times, na osnovu razgovora sa Hassanom.

Šta je istina o Koridoru
"Studija isplativosti je završena, i rad na projektu će početi 2006. godine. Završavamo finansiranje sa nekoliko američkih i evropskih banaka", rekao je Hassan, dodajući da, ukoliko bude uspješan, Bosmal će ubirati putarinu sa Koridora 5C narednih četrdeset godina. "Na projektu će biti angažovane velike količine novca, radne snage, materijala i opreme, i mogao bi da pokrene ekonomiju cijele zemlje", dodao je Hassan.

U članku se navodi da je Hassan osigurao dobijanje projekta autoputa, podnoseći projekat Vijeću ministara u junu 2003. godine. "Vjerujem da ono što ih je privuklo našem prijedlogu jeste to što je 70 posto izvođača radova lokalno i što će se sastojati od Srba, Hrvata i Bošnjaka. Već imamo spisak sa 150 lokalnih izvođača radova za ovaj projekat. Tamo gdje ne možemo pronaći lokalnu opremu ili stručnost, tražit ćemo vanjske izvođače iz Sjedinjenih Država i Austrije", rekao je Hassan za članak koji je objavljen u malezijskom Business Timesu 19. oktobra 2005. godine.

Takve najave nisu poznate u bh. javnosti. Naprotiv, koliko je ovdje poznato, Bosmalu ne samo da nije dodijeljen projekat izgradnje autoputa - Koridora 5C, nego se Vijeće ministara konačno odlučilo za međunarodni tender. Prva je mogućnost, da neko ne govori istinu - ili u Bosmalu ili u Vijeću ministara! Postoji i druga mogućnost - da je cijela najava da je Bosmalu dodijeljena izgradnja autoputa a da BIMB procjenjuje vrijednost urađenog u Hrasnom samo zbog dodatnog finansiranja, jednostavno priča za umirenje malezijske javnosti. I opozicioni lideri i ključni Vladini zvaničnici najavljuju da neće biti prikrivanja uzroka niti krivaca u ovom bankarskom skandalu. U parlamentu je zatraženo otkrivanje imena kompanija i zvaničnika odgovornih za gubitke banke. Iz Kuala Lumpura najavljuju da će uskoro stići istražitelji radi intervjua i u Sarajevo.


Nicely done Kommandant Mark!!

MIMICA, don't be so harsh on KM, molim te!

It was good of him to bring this up. I've been keeping tabs on this whole episode unravel. Bank Islam Malaysia, is actually quite a small bank in Malaysia but the bad loans thing would definately not go unpunished, quite a lot of people aren't too pleased about it. Politicians are crying out for blood!

An investigation is taking place.
Bosmal might have legal action taken against it.

well all KM does is post info up and then laugh, we know deep inside he would love to see the bosmal center fail...its sad to know theres people like that :ohno:

well all KM does is post info up and then laugh, we know deep inside he would love to see the bosmal center fail...its sad to know theres people like that :ohno:

He laughs about this stuff??

KM do you?

He laughs about this stuff??

KM do you?

:poke: of course he does, or maybe its just those damn drugs. god stop ruining your life KM, your failing, "FAILING" I tell you, F- for you mister! :crazy:

ps: send some my way :)

^^
Oh common guys; whats that bad about posting the truth!
It's not like everything goes right in e.g Serbia or Croatia or even Germany(there are scandals everywhere) ...
To cry over sth. like this is just childish IMO

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u know guys forget it,ko je pročitao ovaj post kako je prvobitno izgledao,pročitao je,neću više nikome ništa govoriti,umorio sam se više ovih prepucavanja,nek sere po BiH ko god više hoće,ko neće ne mora (ali ne zna koju satisfakciju propušta,nek pita svoje bosna i hercegovina-mrzce)

^^
Oh common guys; whats that bad about posting the truth!
It's not like everything goes right in e.g Serbia or Croatia or even Germany(there are scandals everywhere) ...
To cry over sth. like this is just childish IMO

yes there is bad info about every country but most of the time he posts only "HARSH STUFF" about BiH, which is not cool :sleepy: I do agree bad news is to be known about but when you just do that and put little smiley faces by it thats just totally wrong :l

New Hotels = New Tourism levels. :)

Sarajevo has a lot of tourism potentials, and even now, you'll see more foreigners than nationals on the streets. Wait a few more years and Sarajevo will be getting big shot hotel chains like Hilton, Sheraton and Hyatt opening hotels around the city.

New Hotels = New Tourism levels. :)

Sarajevo has a lot of tourism potentials, and even now, you'll see more foreigners than nationals on the streets. Wait a few more years and Sarajevo will be getting big shot hotel chains like Hilton, Sheraton and Hyatt opening hotels around the city.

I hope, that would be cool and if those pyramid thingies are true woohoo even more tourism :)

New Hotels = New Tourism levels. :)

Sarajevo has a lot of tourism potentials, and even now, you'll see more foreigners than nationals on the streets. Wait a few more years and Sarajevo will be getting big shot hotel chains like Hilton, Sheraton and Hyatt opening hotels around the city.
Its not like two of the three have not tried to enter the market but land that was attractive was always elusive (Marijin Dvor) or just reserved for :wink2: something (one) else. Or in the case of the Hilton hotels some local bank and wise (a$$) :evil: politician propose the location of pediatric hospital (Porodiliste), then when protest grew they said that Hilton group did not feel that Sarajevo was ready (right, sure what ever they say) for such a project. Just normal day in Sarajevo politics, :bash: but then again certain other parts of the country (to remain nameless) are a lot worse but that’s not scandalous :ohno: . Don't worry now we have a grand investment planned by a company whose capitalization is of $6000 maybe its time to rejoice (not) :doh: .

yes there is bad info about every country but most of the time he posts only "HARSH STUFF" about BiH, which is not cool :sleepy: I do agree bad news is to be known about but when you just do that and put little smiley faces by it thats just totally wrong :l
bloodsaric leave it ;) its pointless...
but tell me.. vancouver ? do you live there or ? :D i was there this summer :D

bloodsaric leave it ;) its pointless...
but tell me.. vancouver ? do you live there or ? :D i was there this summer :D

I have family in Vancouver and I stayed there over last summer, its very nice :)

Sad je El Kommandate nekakav neprijatelj Bosne i Hercegovine što je postavio članak u kome pišu neke jako bitne stvari za ovaj projekat? Ma dajte...nismo djeca pa da pokušavamo od ove zemlje na Internetu stvorimo nešto što nije, kao kolege iz Albanije. Ekonomija nam je totalno sjebana, zemlja živi od kredita i strane pomoći, političari se ništa ne mogu dogovorit', jedino što valja je raja i mentalitet, a vi sad (neki od vas, jelte) možete pisat' šta hoćete, ja znam šta ja vidim, a vidim bolje od svih vas (sem kolege iz Sane) jer živim ovdje!

Haj' sad, fajront, odo' se školovat' ;)

Još nešto, ako vas njegov post toliko vređa, ma kod njih je još gore, nije problem naći neki članak o ekonomiji ili slike na kojima se vide novosagrađene kuće na krovovima komunističkih zgrada...if that will make you feel better.

Sad je El Kommandate nekakav neprijatelj Bosne i Hercegovine što je postavio članak u kome pišu neke jako bitne stvari za ovaj projekat? Ma dajte...nismo djeca pa da pokušavamo od ove zemlje na Internetu stvorimo nešto što nije, kao kolege iz Albanije. Ekonomija nam je totalno sjebana, zemlja živi od kredita i strane pomoći, političari se ništa ne mogu dogovorit', jedino što valja je raja i mentalitet, a vi sad (neki od vas, jelte) možete pisat' šta hoćete, ja znam šta ja vidim, a vidim bolje od svih vas (sem kolege iz Sane) jer živim ovdje!
Haj' sad, fajront, odo' se školovat' ;)

od ovih Sarajlija nikad dosta komplimenata za Sanjane lol :|
ajde bre školuj se,ovoj zemlji treba edukovanih mladih ljudi :crazy::lol:

cool BanjaLuka is on the banner, yey :)

When will they finish BCC? Whats taking them a long time?

its gonna be finished by february or march...

here i found a cool pic of BCC on another forum,i dunno if u guys have seen it b4..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/fmjam/bosmal.jpg

What Are the prices of condos going for?

have not seen that one, nice pic :D

Great pic SSBiH

What Are the prices of condos going for?

APARTMENT SALE CONDITIONS

Price of square meter of residential area in Bosmal City Center is EUR 2000 per sq.m.

1. 3-5% discount for cash payment, depending on total contract sum

2. 0% interest through Bosmals 2 year purchase program. 30% deposit of total sum upon contract signing and 24 equal monthly installments of the balance.

3. Credit through commercial banks with whom Bosmal has a signed a loan facility agreement.

a) Raiffeisen bank dd, Sarajevo with interest rate of 7,9%. Payment up to 15 years. Bank loan ranging from KM 40.0000,00 to KM 300.000,00

To raise a loan you will need the following:

- at least two guarantors
- company’s deposit
- personal termed deposit
- mortgage

(further information can be obtained through Raiffeisen bank dd, Sarajevo telephone numbers: 033 387 307, 287 193, 287 340, 714 531).

b) HVB bank, with interest rate of 6,9%. Payment up to15 years. Maximum bank loan of KM 600.000,00

To raise a loan you will need the following:

- at least one guarantor
- company’s deposit
- personal termed deposit
- mortgage

(further information can be obtained through HVB bank, Sarajevo, telephone numbers: 033 250 900).

NON BOSNIAN & HERZEGOVINA CITIZENS

1. 3-5% discount for cash payment, depending on total contract sum

2. 0% interest through Bosmals 2 year purchase program. 30% deposit of total sum upon contract signing and 24 equal monthly installments of the balance.

3. Credit through commercial banks with whom Bosmal has a signed a loan facility agreement.

BUSINESS PREMISES SALE CONDITIONS

Price of square meter of commercial area in Bosmal City Center is EUR 3500 per sq.m.

1. 3-5% discount for cash payment, depending on total contract sum

2. 0% interest through Bosmals 2 year purchase program. 30% deposit of total sum upon contract signing and 24 equal monthly installments of the balance.

3. Credit through commercial banks with whom Bosmal has a signed a loan facility agreement.

NOTE

After last installment rate is made, the buyer is registered in the cadastral department as 1/1 owner of the apartment or commercial area bought.

To purchase an Apartment or Business premises within Bosmal City Center, you will need to do the following:

1. Sign Preliminary agreement with Bosmal d.o.o. , submit a non refundable deposit of EUR 500.00 as a guarantee. After signing, Bosmal allows a grace period of one month to sign the final Contract agreement, which has to be verified in the Courts of Sarajevo. If in case the Preliminary agreement is cancelled, the deposit of EUR 500.00 stays non refundable. Upon a finalized contract the deposit will be deducted from the total contract sum.

2. For non-residents, Preliminary contract can be signed and verified via fax or e-mail, however final contracts have to be signed in person and registered in the Courts of Sarajevo.

its gonna be finished by february or march...

here i found a cool pic of BCC on another forum,i dunno if u guys have seen it b4..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/fmjam/bosmal.jpg
Lepo lepo :)

Hey people new pics from Bosmal City Center cam available :D here theye are:

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you know, the more I look at these the uglier they get compared to the media center...

Yeah i agree.

they aint even finished and they look old school to me

why aren`t they finished yet?

who knows.

i guess they sell them as they build them or something. but they have been slow on the finishing of the entier thing.

they were supposed to be finished this year. but it looks like 06 will be the date of the finilizing of construction.

i dunno how long it will take them to finish the interier construction.

who knows.

i guess they sell them as they build them or something. but they have been slow on the finishing of the entier thing.

they were supposed to be finished this year. but it looks like 06 will be the date of the finilizing of construction.

i dunno how long it will take them to finish the interier construction.

the only thing left to do is the interior. and theyre almost done with it. so i dont expect it taking too long. i was hoping theyd be finished by new year and have all their shops open and some sort of fireworks going from the buildings. itd be a good grand opening if you ask me. :)

Sarajevo is shaping up real well, crazy looking city, keep up the good work!

^^ hehe thanks...
and as for the rest of u guys,i dunno why its so ugly to ya? i mean everyone has it own taste,but theyre not THAT ugly :|
and ofcourse that the grand media center is better than bosmal,its twice more expensive :|

^^ hehe thanks...
and as for the rest of u guys,i dunno why its so ugly to ya? i mean everyone has it own taste,but theyre not THAT ugly :|
and ofcourse that the grand media center is better than bosmal,its twice more expensive :|

i dont think its ugly at all. they look great from basically any angle, i guess people just like seeing those fully covered glass buildings that shine with teh sun.

yeah thats the main reason. im a big fan of glass and steel :D :D :D :D

Bosmal is a great idea but I have few questions. I think the place is very expensive for Bosnian citizens. How can you finance those loans with low salary? I love to see these kinds of developments in Sarajevo but it would look bad for people that can't imagine about buying it.

Bosmal is a great idea but I have few questions. I think the place is very expensive for Bosnian citizens. How can you finance those loans with low salary? I love to see these kinds of developments in Sarajevo but it would look bad for people that can't imagine about buying it.

salaries are slowly but improving and more and more people. however the bosmal city center does have very high prices and indeed its said that the rooms would be difficult to sell.
im sure its probably just gonna get bought out from the disapora wanting a nice place to come back during the summer on holiday. :)

yes mimica has hit the point.

but i would also like to add that these buildings are not designed for the little man. so we wont see huso and haso living in them. but rich bosnians and internationals will probably buy off the apartments.

kind of sad to think but these buildings will cater for only one class of citizens, the ones that made it.

to the person mimica answered to:
in each country you have different classes of people and you have to be able to serve them all, people at the higher class have luxurious lives, and i think alot of profit can be made from them i think its a smart move, the other plus is it gives Sarajevo a good look wich can turn into good money from turism.

I think this is an appartmanet complex thats why its not glassy, Sarajeov is gonna end up looking like Caracass or Vancouver, loaded with huge appartment complexes, Sarajeovo needs a masterplan to shape up the downtown core, set a aside a certain area where Bunisess offices are to be built this way at least havin a sky line full of glassy buildings will be more eyecatching than the rest of the builidings.

yes mimica has hit the point.

but i would also like to add that these buildings are not designed for the little man. so we wont see huso and haso living in them. but rich bosnians and internationals will probably buy off the apartments.

kind of sad to think but these buildings will cater for only one class of citizens, the ones that made it.

i dont think its a bad thing the diaspora will buy them out. if the bcc makes a decent profit im sure itll make another residential probably meant for the middle class citizens. of course itll be much smaller in size than the bcc. ;) the bcc was a good idea it just needed to be better planned. they needed to have the materials for construction at the construction site instead of waiting long periods of time for them to arrive.

a new company taking on a project as large as the bcc wasnt the best idea to start out with. oh well theyve learned from their mistakes. :)

to the person mimica answered to:
in each country you have different classes of people and you have to be able to serve them all, people at the higher class have luxurious lives, and i think alot of profit can be made from them i think its a smart move, the other plus is it gives Sarajevo a good look wich can turn into good money from turism.

I think this is an appartmanet complex thats why its not glassy, Sarajeov is gonna end up looking like Caracass or Vancouver, loaded with huge appartment complexes, Sarajeovo needs a masterplan to shape up the downtown core, set a aside a certain area where Bunisess offices are to be built this way at least havin a sky line full of glassy buildings will be more eyecatching than the rest of the builidings.

there is already a business district in sarajevo. its called marjin dvor. :) there will actually be a lot of constructions going on there this summer. hopefully well start up with a skyline of 5 or 6 skyscrapers this summer.

but i do agree about a master plan about the whole city. since bosmal city center wasnt actually built in the downtown area becuase the downtown is left for offices instead of residentials. hopefully someone will make a master plan and well run with it. ;)

Edit mimica answered the question :cheers:

there is already a business district in sarajevo. its called marjin dvor. there will actually be a lot of constructions going on there this summer. hopefully well start up with a skyline of 5 or 6 skyscrapers this summer.

but i do agree about a master plan about the whole city. since bosmal city center wasnt actually built in the downtown area becuase the downtown is left for offices instead of residentials. hopefully someone will make a master plan and well run with it.

Yup thats what i am talking about as long as the downtown area is preserved for better projects than its totally fine to have Highrises such as Bosmal City, every city has those, i live close to Toronto and Toronto is full of those but it also has its downtown core. ;)

I am not sure about diasopra. I know a lot of Bonsiaks that lost some serious money in savings that will never see. I hope people invest money in Bosmal Centre. Many tell me to be carefull about because Bosnia is unstable place to invest.

well as with any emerging market economy there are risks.

but the majority of instability comes from antiquated legislation in the economic sphere.

the division between regional taxations and other things.

but all of this will change next year. as a single VAT is introduced nation wide investors will face the same legislation no matter where they invest in BiH. the new customs and customs laws that were created this year took away from the entities the right to collect customs. this was unstable and fueled the underground economy. Now that the state is in full control of financial aspects of trade and customs and taxation investors will hear one voice instead of many.

it is not surprising that the Austrians decided to start Grand Media next year. their investment of 170 million EUROs will be Sarajevos largest to date.

I am not sure about diasopra. I know a lot of Bonsiaks that lost some serious money in savings that will never see. I hope people invest money in Bosmal Centre. Many tell me to be carefull about because Bosnia is unstable place to invest.

sadly thats not only bosnia. similar problems are in serbia and montenegro and the basically the rest of eastern europe.

Bosmal is a great idea but I have few questions. I think the place is very expensive for Bosnian citizens. How can you finance those loans with low salary? I love to see these kinds of developments in Sarajevo but it would look bad for people that can't imagine about buying it.

These will mostly be bought by Bosnian diaspora, Bosnian elite and foreigners. Bosnian diaspora is huge; approximately 1.5 million.

These will mostly be bought by Bosnian diaspora, Bosnian elite and foreigners. Bosnian diaspora is huge; approximately 1.5 million.

and many visit during the summers. :)

Bosmal is a great idea but I have few questions. I think the place is very expensive for Bosnian citizens. How can you finance those loans with low salary? I love to see these kinds of developments in Sarajevo but it would look bad for people that can't imagine about buying it.

The people who brought most of the apartments are people originally from bosnia living outside bosnia. Soccer players, managers, singers, rich bastards..and so on.

Newest Picture:

http://bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-12-26-sng2006.jpg

ZAVRŠNI RADOVI NA BOSMALU

Na gradilištu "Bosmal City Centra" u toku su završni radovi na uređenju fasade i na gradilištu se trenutno nalaze radnici firme IN i nekoliko drugih građevinskih kompanija, koji postavljaju obloge na ukrasnim dijelovima (lođama) Bosmala. Prije nekoliko dana ...

... domaći mediji su prenijeli informaciju da su HVB Central profit banka Sarajevo i malezijska banka Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad (BIMB) dogovorile zajedničko finansiranje građevinskih radova "Bosmal City Centra" u Sarajevu, a radovi bi trebali biti završeni najkasnije za 12 mjeseci.


Ukupne finansije od 50 miliona KM namijenjene su za završetak gradnje "Bosmala". Također, najavljeno je potpisivanje ugovora čime bi se stekli uvjeti za završetak tog značajnog projekta.

http://www.biznis.ba/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3044&Itemid=2

those look amazing, i hope those towers are built. Sarajevo will have its own twin towers :) they look WOW

those look amazing, i hope those towers are built. Sarajevo will have its own twin towers :) they look WOW

Yes they are build, they are being finished up on right now, and its not the first twin towers sarajevo has, its the 2nd, UNITIC's were first.

no i know they have some other ones, i like these a lot too though

well 50 more million is to be invested in completing the towers. the new finish date is 12 months away.

i got a bone to pick with BOSMAL......

This pic is taken last year

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/665/1234zy.jpg

This pic is taken last year

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/665/1234zy.jpg

Wonderful Pic :eek2:

looks like the TV Relej in the far back hasnt been rebuilt yet. I hope they do it soon the globe was covered with glass looked cool back in the day...

^^
I dont think they will rebuilt it soon because they dont have money :sleepy:

looks like the TV Relej in the far back hasnt been rebuilt yet. I hope they do it soon the globe was covered with glass looked cool back in the day...

I'd like to see it reconstructed, but I doubt it's going to be reconstructed for a long time.

to bad there used to be a nice restaurant up there

that pics is awesome of bosmal.

when is Bosmal supposed to open. I think its been under construction for a long time. That photo looks nice :)

They stopped working on bosmal for almost one year due to financial problems and now they are resuming the construction and it will be finished after 12 months

Bosmal is annoying, this is the best example for small companies not to take up big tasks.

Bosmal is annoying, this is the best example for small companies not to take up big tasks.

Rather Bosmal is a good example of how foriegn investment in Bosnia can be risky. I feel sorry for the people who have bought apartments, I feel even more sorry for the bank who's money has been used to build the place. It wasn't a Bosnian bank who initially funded this project, it was a Malaysian bank. This whole episode gives warnings to future foreign investments into the country. Heads need to be axed, people responsible for running the project into a quagmire need to be prosecuted for there to be further and future confidence. There's been some sort of uproar in Malaysia over this whole episode, the Malaysian parliament has called for a probe into the scandal which resulted in losses for Bank Islam Malaysia in part for financing this Bosnian project.

http://www.benadorassociates.com/pf.php?id=18772

As far as Bosmal City Center is concerned, its back on track, though from my understanding, its now being heavily supervised by bank officials from Bank Islam and its Bosnian partner HVB Bank. It will open!! Not because of Bosmal finally got its act together but because the banks involved want to see a return on their investments, the Banks are coming in. Afterall it was Bank Islam Malaysia's money and NOT Bosmal's money that was used to fund and finance this project.

These are some older pics of bosmal

http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-03-29-hodnici-002.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-03-29-hodnici-005.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-09-26-hodnici-004.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-09-26-hodnici-003.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-stropovi2.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-stropovi4.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-keramika6.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-keramika2.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/liftovi-16-11-00002.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/liftovi-16-11-00004.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-09-26-pogledi-002.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-09-26-pogledi-003.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/garaze1.JPG http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/garaze3.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/nacelnikposjeta2.jpg

What's the cost of apartments $/sq. m.

These are some older pics of bosmal

http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-03-29-hodnici-002.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-03-29-hodnici-005.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-09-26-hodnici-004.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-09-26-hodnici-003.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-stropovi2.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-stropovi4.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-keramika6.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-02-05-keramika2.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/liftovi-16-11-00002.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/liftovi-16-11-00004.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-09-26-pogledi-002.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-09-26-pogledi-003.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/garaze1.JPG http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/garaze3.jpg
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/nacelnikposjeta2.jpg

The interior looks super. :okay:

Bosmal is annoying, this is the best example for small companies not to take up big tasks.

They are not a small company they just stepped into crap like everyone does, but now they are back now finally.

What's the cost of apartments $/sq. m.

Price of square meter of residential area in Bosmal City Center is EUR 2000 per sq.m.

Link: http://www.bosmal.com/en/?lg=en&nav_ID=12

I really want to see these buildings open. They look great

Those are really nice towers! Very modern and original:)

Hilari Klinton podržava Klark-Bosmalov plan

http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2006-05-19-hillary-002.jpg

Američka senatorica Hillary Rodham Clinton podržala je Clark-Bosmalov plan za izgradnju autoputa na koridoru 5 C kroz BiH, tokom susreta sa Edinom Šabanovićem, izvršnim direktorom d.o.o. u Njujorku.

Hilari Klinton, supruga bivšeg američkog predsjednika Billa Clintona, jedina je Prva dama, koja je izabrana u Senat, kao predstavnica države New York. Senatorica Klinton je pozvala Edina Šabanovića, tokom njegove poslovne posjete SAD-u, na privatnu večeru, kojoj je prisustvovao uski krug njujorških biznismena.

Tokom razgovora, senatorica Klinton se osvrnula na projekat izgradnje autoputa na koridoru 5C kroz BiH:

"Lično sam bila na sastanku, na kojem je general Wesley K Clark odlučio da se uključi u ovaj projekat, sa željom revitalizacije ekonomije u BiH. U potpunosti podržavam njegov plan da zajedno s "Bosmalom" krene u realizaciju projekta, koji je vitalan za BiH", rekla je senatorica Klinton.

Senatorica Klinton je, također, tokom večere evocirala mnoge uspomene koje nju i njenog supruga, bivšeg američkog predsjednika Billa Clintona, vežu za Bosnu i Hercegovinu.

General Clark, bivši vrhovni komandant NATO-a i jedan od ključnih arhitekata mira u BiH zainteresiran je da, u partnerstvu s "Bosmalom", vodi konzorcijum privatnih investitora, koji bi finansirao projekat izgradnje autoputa na koridoru 5C.

bosmal.com

^^ja ne razumijem, Engleski molim te...

Bosmal is a great idea but I have few questions. I think the place is very expensive for Bosnian citizens. How can you finance those loans with low salary? I love to see these kinds of developments in Sarajevo but it would look bad for people that can't imagine about buying it.

People, you are so wrong. Bosnia has a lot of wealthy people, I think even more than any other former yugoslovenian country. People who are investing in Bosnia are not stupid, they know the situation here, this country has a big potential and a lot of big (very big) companies, for example Energoinvest (which has had bigger revenue than all companies in Belgrade!). By the way, a city near Mostar, Siroki Brijeg, has the biggest ratio in Europe of milionairs in regard to inhabitants.

Cheers

People, you are so wrong. Bosnia has a lot of wealthy people, I think even more than any other former yugoslovenian country. People who are investing in Bosnia are not stupid, they know the situation here, this country has a big potential and a lot of big (very big) companies, for example Energoinvest (which has had bigger revenue than all companies in Belgrade!). By the way, a city near Mostar, Siroki Brijeg, has the biggest ratio in Europe of milionairs in regard to inhabitants.

Cheers

Yes, rich people around but with plenty of unemployment. I have never seen so many idle men sitting at cafes in the middle of the day.

Anyways back to Bosmal, I really wish they would FINISH it already!! ARGH!! You folks in Sarajevo, how about a progress report to all of us, any improvements on the structure? Any sign of completion?

Yes, rich people around but with plenty of unemployment. I have never seen so many idle men sitting at cafes in the middle of the day.

Anyways back to Bosmal, I really wish they would FINISH it already!! ARGH!! You folks in Sarajevo, how about a progress report to all of us, any improvements on the structure? Any sign of completion?

They are almost done with everything outside, they are finishing the inside now.

About the rich people, most of those rich people you see today benifited by stealing money during war, basically criminals. All the normal folks you see in cafes with not much money and all the young people, they are suffering because of this.

My parents didn't move out of Sarajevo because it was so badly damaged or seperated (keep in mind they are a mixed couple). They moved because corrupt people ran it. Of course I don't know if its the same way now but as I can see its getting better.

I doubt there's any curroption left in Sarajevo, especially with the nearly perfect administration that's in power at the moment. Many projects are being addressed and promises are being made and carried out. This is something completely new to Sarajevo, and I think only positive news can come from it.

Borovac is doing a great job. :cheers:

From: BosRoker SARAJEVO - construction update VII

Bosmal sinking story is false

Postovani, nista sto je pisala Slobodna Dalmacija nije istina, oni ce objaviti demanti ovih dana, njihov novinar Zlatko Tulic licno se vec izvinuo Bosmalu. Sada to izvinjenje ocekujemo u SD. Za Vasu informaciju, saljem Vam nase objasnjenje:

"Apsolutna je neistina da je Bosmalov neboder potonuo 12 cm, zbog navodnog pucanja temeljne ploče. «Bosmalov neboder» nije potonuo niti jedan centimetar, niti može potonuti, jer leži na 470 šipova koji su ukopani 40 i 20 metara u zemlju i kontra-ploči debljine 2,6 metra, što je visina jedne stambene etaže. Njemačka firma «Bauer» izradila je projekat osiguranja građevinske jame i izvršila ispitivanje probnih šipova, kako bismo dobili egzaktne podatke za proračun temeljne konstrukcije. Taj proračun izradili su prof dr Muhamed Zlatar, dekan Građevinskog fakulteta Univerziteta u Sarajevu i Mirza Ćerimović, diplomirani inženjer građevine. Prilikom izgradnje objekta vršena su geodetska snimanja i sačinjeni geodetski elaborati, iz kojih se jasno može vidjeti da je objekat stabilan.

Tulic novinar navodi kako niko iz «Bosmala» ne želi davati nikakve izjave. Još jedna laž. Gospodin Tulić nikoga iz Bosmala nije niti kontaktirao. Da jeste, dobio bi odgovore koji odgovaraju istini. Njegovo nepoznavanje materije o kojoj piše ogleda se i u samom naslovu, jer Bosmal City Center nije «neboder», već je riječ o množini i o dvije kule, a ne jednoj, kako je Vaš novinar napisao. Nejasno je i zašto ste objavili fotografiju BCC-ja, staru najmanje dvije godine, kada BCC sada izgleda mnogo drukčije.

Neistina je i da je smanjena visina nebodera zbog nedostatka sredstava. Naprotiv, visina nebodera povećana je u odnosu na prvobitni projekat.

Gospodin Tulić navodi kako su radovi stali i kako je nakon posjete malezijske delegacije, »Bosmalu» odobren kredit u visini od 14 miliona dolara. Ne znamo odakle gospodinu Tuliću takve informacije, ali, niti je malezijska delegacija dolazila u posjet «Bosmalu», niti je tada odobren kredit, a najmanje u iznosu koji navodite.

Tvrdnje da kupci stanova i poslovnih prostora traže povrat sredstava još su jedna neistina, jer niko od naših kupaca nije tražio da mu se vrate uložena sredstva. Naime, cijena kvadratnog metra stambenog prostora u Bosmal City Center-u bila je 1250 EUR na početku gradnje, a sada je 2000 EUR. Cijena jednog metra kvadratnog poslovnih prostora na početku gradnje koštala je 2500 EUR, a sada je 3500 EUR. Prosta računica dovoljna je da bi se shvatilo koliko su kupci zaštićeni.

Također, Vaš novinar navodi kako je pojačana zaštitna ograda i broj čuvara oko gradilišta. Prema važećim zakonskim propisima, mi smo dužni da ogradimo gradilište i ista ograda stoji već mjesecima. Netačno je i da je povećan broj čuvara, jer isti broj ljudi osigurava zgradu već godinama.

Neistina je i da suvlasnici «Bosmala» godinama ponavljaju, kako napisa Tulić, «bajkovitu priču o svom bogatom partneru ne navodeći njegovo ime». Ime suvlasnika „Bosmala“ nije tajna i riječ je o Haji Hassan Jamaludinu, što je objavljeno nebrojeno puta. Da je gospodin Tulić, kojim slučajem, posjetio web stranicu Bosmala (www.bosmal.com), mogao je vidjeti i njegovu sliku.

Na žalost, g.Tulić je iznio sve same neistine i niti za jednu tvrdnju nije naveo izvor, tako da nije jasno odakle mu informacije. Takvim pisanjem umnogome je oštetio «Bosmal» kao firmu. Da napomenemo da je ulaganje u Bosmal City Center još uvijek najveća direktna strana greenfield investicija u BiH u vrijednosti od 80 miliona EUR i da su štete koje je ovaj napis prouzrokovao, također, velike.


Amra Kebo
Direktor za komunikacije
Bosmal d.o.o.
Milana Preloga bb,
71000, Sarajevo, BiH
Tel: + 387 33 725 183
Fax: + 387 33 725 181
E-mail: amra@bosmal.com

Amra Kebo
Communications Director
Tel: + 387 33 725 183
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BCC yesterday
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3356/19ng1.jpg

^^ nice pictures of Bosmal, but it looks the same to picture I took myself in February! Has there been any change? If so what?

^^ nice pictures of Bosmal, but it looks the same to picture I took myself in February! Has there been any change? If so what?

The weather is so bad in the last two weeks, its so rainy and cold si I think they cant paint these white squares now but there are some changes on the facade on the left building, this green square is painted

wow Mimar you can see BCC towers from ur balcony? :uh: cool :D great shot :okay:

wow Mimar you can see BCC towers from ur balcony? :uh: cool :D great shot :okay:

Unfortunately this is not my balcony :) this is the roof of a building but not mine

wow Mimar you can see BCC towers from ur balcony? :uh: cool :D great shot :okay:

Can't you? Its quite tall enough to be easily seen. I could easily see BCC towers from my balcony.

I found these renderings on the net

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7987/102rs.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3398/31ee1.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9163/159kb.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6157/145es.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2908/133yr.jpg

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6568/112nw.jpg

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/9955/167es.jpg

This is the first time to me to see the other side of tower A on the renderings

Are the twins complete?
I'm thinking of moving the thread to the general section, and whenever we need to speak about them, discuss news, new pictures and so on, it will be availabe.
All other individual towers can get their own thread this way

This is incredible. There is more than one user living in Sarajevo, and do one takes construction pics!

^^ i was yesterday in Sarajevo,and ive taken bunch of pics,but i didnt take any pics of Bosmal City Center,cuz it was waaaay on the other side of the city lol :D

So how is the construction of Stanio and Olio going, he he? They really look powerful. When they get finished, Sarajevo will definitely have the best skyline in Ex-yu

So how is the construction of Stanio and Olio going, he he? They really look powerful. When they get finished, Sarajevo will definitely have the best skyline in Ex-yu

Wait until you see the third UNITIC and GMCCS go up, as well as the reconstruction of Parliament - all going on in Marijin Dvor. :yes:

So that'll be:
1. UNITIC 1 (completed)
2. UNITIC 2 (completed)
3. Parliament (under reconstruction/modernization)
4. GMCCS (approved; starting Jan. 2007)
5. UNITIC 3 (approved; starting Jan. 2007)

This is going to be sweet. :yes:

^^ What happen to that other building? across GMCCS? Triland I think?

Oh and why did they move the date?

And where in the world is the Sarajevo thread! I cant find it. :(

^^ What happen to that other building? across GMCCS? Triland I think?

Oh and why did they move the date?

And where in the world is the Sarajevo thread! I cant find it. :(

The Triland project is a large office/shopping complex, and I think it's under construction at the moment.

They moved the date because the papers took longer than they tought, and it's too late to start construction now because they can't accomplish a lot of stuff until winter comes.

he is building triland?

and what about Sarajevo thread?

Wait until you see the third UNITIC and GMCCS go up, as well as the reconstruction of Parliament - all going on in Marijin Dvor. :yes:

So that'll be:
1. UNITIC 1 (completed)
2. UNITIC 2 (completed)
3. Parliament (under reconstruction/modernization)
4. GMCCS (approved; starting Jan. 2007)
5. UNITIC 3 (approved; starting Jan. 2007)

This is going to be sweet. :yes:
I only saw a poor rendering of that Unitic3, is there a better pic of how might the building look like? I don't like where thay are building it...I'm kinda use to seeing just the two Unitics, three is a crowd:)

^^ Best is this.

http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/886b62b6-Unitic_3__4__jpg.jpg

@Mimica: Thanx for not telling me where the Sarajevo thread is :scouserd: .

I found it my self, but you know thanx anyway! :weirdo:

i dont like this design at all...
it looks cheap and 90s-like

CrAZY addition to Sarajevo. I think Sarajevo needs one 70 floor skyscraper just to rip it, and then follow along. Back to old glory.

i dont like this design at all...
it looks cheap and 90s-like

I agree, but maybe they will make like a a huge screen on top or something, after all it was said that its going to be the most "modern".

^^ Best is this.

http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/886b62b6-Unitic_3__4__jpg.jpg

@Mimica: Thanx for not telling me where the Sarajevo thread is :scouserd: .

I found it my self, but you know thanx anyway! :weirdo:

Calm down, it's not like I purposely forgot to put the link in. :?

I only saw a poor rendering of that Unitic3, is there a better pic of how might the building look like? I don't like where thay are building it...I'm kinda use to seeing just the two Unitics, three is a crowd:)

Once the Parliament is completely reconstructed/modernized, the GMCCS gets completed and same with the UNITIC 3, Marijin Dvor is going to be a true European business district. Just imagine what it'll look like...amazing! :yes:

I like the GMCCS design the best, since it's the most creative.

@BL: I'm sorry that you don't like it, but it seems like you never like what's being built in Sarajevo. :dunno:

i dont like this design at all...
it looks cheap and 90s-like

Exactly, its not the most original or exciting tower design, can't they have put more thought into it, looks so boring.

it looks like chicago in 80´s

Calm down, it's not like I purposely forgot to put the link in. :?

Ooook.. :lol:

Idejno resenje je sasvim OK !
Da li postoje jos neke informacije o projektu: visina, kvadratura... ?

^^ 118m bez antene,a s antenom ne znam.. jedan toranj na vrhu ima restoran,drugi ima heliodrom :) a kvadraturu ne znam

a ako si mislio na 3. uniticov toranj on je oko 130-140m,odnosno 30 spratova,a ne znam kvadraturu :)

Idejno resenje je sasvim OK !
Da li postoje jos neke informacije o projektu: visina, kvadratura... ?

www.bosmal.com Ova stranica ti moze najbolje objasniti.

Once the Parliament is completely reconstructed/modernized, the GMCCS gets completed and same with the UNITIC 3, Marijin Dvor is going to be a true European business district. Just imagine what it'll look like...amazing! :yes:

nice, but still, dont get overexited, it's only five towers... you will definetly have to come up with something more (and i believe you will) for it to look "amazing" for everyone else, not only for you... e.g. Vilnius NCC has 8 towers/highrises built with that "Vyrokas" round shit as 9th, has 2 towers u/c, atleast two more to go u/c next month and at the begining of next year and imho it's definetly far from beeing a downtown or a district of any kind, but anyway, good luck ;)

^^ Well true, but this is just the begining for Sarajevo, I'm sure they will build more, theres already talks about 2 huge hotels and a new avaz scraper.

nice, but still, dont get overexited, it's only five towers... you will definetly have to come up with something more (and i believe you will) for it to look "amazing" for everyone else, not only for you... e.g. Vilnius NCC has 8 towers/highrises built with that "Vyrokas" round shit as 9th, has 2 towers u/c, atleast two more to go u/c next month and at the begining of next year and imho it's definetly far from beeing a downtown or a district of any kind, but anyway, good luck ;)

The Baltics are much more progressive than the Balkans, so I usually never compare the two. :yes:

nice, but still, dont get overexited, it's only five towers... you will definetly have to come up with something more (and i believe you will) for it to look "amazing" for everyone else, not only for you... e.g. Vilnius NCC has 8 towers/highrises built with that "Vyrokas" round shit as 9th, has 2 towers u/c, atleast two more to go u/c next month and at the begining of next year and imho it's definetly far from beeing a downtown or a district of any kind, but anyway, good luck ;)

I think the impression here is that Sarajevo will soon have the best skyline in ex-yu and the Balcans, not EE, or Europe. 5 modern towers are a good start and I don't think that's far from 8 towers:) The skyline would look even better if thay gave the 3rd Unitic a more imaginative design

30.6.2006

Postavljanje instalacija centralnog grijanja

Radnici firme "Mountain" iz Sarajeva montiraju instalacije za centalno grijanje u Bosmal City Center-u.

"Počeli smo s postavljanjem instalacija na 15. nivou, zbog izvođenja radova na nižim spratovima. Postavili smo radijatore, a trenutno razvodimo cijevi za jednocijevni sistem grijanja", kaže Fikret Salčin, poslovođa u firmi "Mountain".

Radijatori koji se ugrađuju na BCC proizvedeni su u visočkoj formi "Metal-As", a cijevi su njemačke firme "Rehau".

Svaki stanar Bosmal City Center-a imaće mogućnost da po volji uključi ili isključi grijanje u stanu, te ae plaćati za onoliko toplotne energije koliko je potrošio.

http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2006-06-30-grijanje-002.jpg

http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2006-06-30-grijanje-004.jpg

http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2006-06-30-grijanje-003.jpg

http://www.bosmal.com/ba/?lg=ba&nav_ID=5&ID=187

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/6739/11mm.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1875/2si8.jpg

26.7.2006
Postavljanje estriha

Postavljanje podnih obloga i termoizolacije - estriha počelo je u stanovima Bosmal City Center-a. Riječ je o završnim radovima pred polaganje finalnih podnih obloga. A finalni pod je od egzotičnog, "pyinkado" drveta, koje se zbog velike čvrstine i izdržljivosti, te otpornosti na vlagu i udare naziva još i "čelično drvo", a stiglo je iz Burme.

Radove na postavljanju estriha izvode radnici "EURO-ASFALT"-a, koji su, zbog obima posla, angažovali kooperantske firme. Ukupna površina koju je potrebno obložiti estrihom iznosi 60.000 metara kvadratnih.

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5179/3dr6.jpg

Trenutno se estrisi postavljaju na 14. i 15. spratu BCC-ja. Iz mašine koja se naziva "puc-majstor", a nalazi se u prizemlju objekta, cijevima se na visinu od 80 metara izbacuje specijalna masa za estrihe, sastavljena od pijeska, cementa, polipropilenskih vlakana i aditiva. Ova masa se nanosi na prethodno postavljenu termičku izolaciju (stiropor), preko kojega je navučena polietilenska folija.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1055/5qw7.jpg

"Dinamika i kvalitet radova odvijaju se po zacrtanom planu. Veliko mi je zadovoljstvo surađivati s Bosmalom. Jer, mi smo na Bosmal City Center-u postavljali i hidroizolaciju na krovovima", kaže Hamed Ramić.

"Dnevno naši radnici završavaju 500 metara kvadratnih estriha. Mi, pratimo završetak radova na postavljanju instalacija grijanja, preko kojih se, nakon testiranja cijevi pod pritiskom, postavlja estrih", kaže Hamed Ramić, generalni direktor "EURO-ASFALTA".

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/261/4gy6.jpg

bosmal.com

any word on the opening date??

year from now







i hope

year from now







i hope

I hope so too! I hope the workers now don't steal cement, building materials to extend or build their cousins house, or what have you. It won't go down well with the foreign investors.

Bosmal City Centru još 50 milijuna

SARAJEVO - Ugovor o sindikaciji, vrijedan 50 milijuna KM potrebnih za završetak izgradnje Bosmal City Centera, potpisali su predstavnici Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad, HVB Central Profit Banke d.d. i Nove Banjalučke banke u Kuala Lumpuru.

Ugovor je potpisan 1. kolovoza ove godine u sjedištu Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad, u nazočnosti najviših dužnosnika ovih banaka, te predstavnika Bosmala d.o.o.

Kako je priopćeno, Ugovor je u ime Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad potpisao Dato Zukri Samat, u ime HVB-Central Profit Banke Enes Merzić i Edin Hukić, te Nove Banjalučke banke Sanela Pašić.

Potpisnici u ime Bosmala d.o.o. su Dato Hassan Jamaluddin, predsjednik Upravnog odbora Bosmala d.o.o, Noor Hazin bin Mohd Zain, član Uprave i te Nijaz i Edin Šabanović, generalni i izvršni direktori Bosmala d.o.o.

Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad i HVB Central Profit Banka još ranije su postigle dogovor o zajedničkom financiranju dovršenja građevinskih radova na Bosmal City Centeru, nakon kojega je slijedila veoma komplicirana procedura bankovnog dogovaranja.

-U Kuala Lumpuru je potpisan opći ugovor o sindikaciji, dok će sutra u Sarajevu u sjedištu HVB Central Profit Banke biti potpisan kreditni ugovor između Bosmala d.o.o. , HVB Central Profit Banke i Nove Banjalučke banke o zajedničkom financiranju Bosmala d.o.o, izjavio je izvršni direktor Bosmala d.o.o. Edin Šabanović.

U izgradnju Bosmal City Centra Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad dosad je uložila ukupno 100 milijuna KM i to je najveće strano greenfield ulaganje u BiH.

Dodatnih 50 milijuna KM upotrijebit će se za završetak Bosmal City Centera, prvog kondominija u ovom dijelu Europe.

Link: http://www.pincom.info/bih/opsirnije.asp?ID=40855

Bosmal City Centru još 50 milijuna



Link: http://www.pincom.info/bih/opsirnije.asp?ID=40855

How about a short translation of this into engleski?

ok

they got 50 mil more to finish up the project. three banks are funding the last stage of construction, Bank Islam Malaysia, HVB Central Profit Bank and Nove Banjalučke Bank. so the contract was signed in Malaysia for the new credit.

looks like the final price tag of this baby will be 150 million marks which is 50 percent more then what they said would be needed to finish...

Thats what happens when a small company takes on a huge project. I don't even think they chose a very good area to built it either.

Thats what happens when a small company takes on a huge project. I don't even think they chose a very good area to built it either.

The area was perfect. If the Bosmal twins were put into Marijin Dvor for example, it'd ruin the entire "business center" enviroment.
Not to mention that the construction of Bosmal had kick-started a renewal of objects in Otoka, and the rest of New Sarajevo. I doubt the construction of that Merkur in Otoka would have ever started if Bosmal hadn't been there beforehand. Most of New Sarajevo was more or less neglected before the twins.

ok

they got 50 mil more to finish up the project. three banks are funding the last stage of construction, Bank Islam Malaysia, HVB Central Profit Bank and Nove Banjalučke Bank. so the contract was signed in Malaysia for the new credit.

looks like the final price tag of this baby will be 150 million marks which is 50 percent more then what they said would be needed to finish...

What a waste of money! Any reasons given to why?

my thought on this is that the Banks are the primary owners of Bosmal and they are getting tired of the games that the two brothers are playing. so the banks are stepping in to make certain that their investment goes through...

official BOSMAL press release...

Potpisan Ugovor vrijedan 50 miliona KM

Ugovor o sindikaciji, vrijedan 50 miliona KM potrebnih za završetak izgradnje Bosmal City Center-a, potpisali su predstavnici Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad, HVB Central profit banke d.d. i Nove banjalučke banke u Kuala Lumpuru.

Ugovor je potpisan 1. augusta ove godine u sjedištu Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad u Kuala Lumpuru, uz prisustvo najviših zvaničnika ovih banaka, te predstavnika Bosmala d.o.o. Tako je ugovor u ime Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad potpisao Dato Zukri Samat, u ime HVB Central profit banke - Enes Merzić i Edin Hukić, te Nove banjalučke banke - Sanela Pašić. Potpisnici Ugovora u ime Bosmala d.o.o. su: Dato Hassan Jamaluddin, predsjednik Upravnog odbora Bosmala d.o.o, Noor Hazin bin Mohd Zain, član Uprave i Nijaz i Edin Šabanović, generalni i izvršni direktori Bosmala d.o.o.

"Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad i HVB Central profit banka još ranije su postigle dogovor o zajedničkom finansiranju dovršenja građevinskih radova na Bosmal City Center-u, nakon kojega je slijedila veoma komplikovana procedura bankovnog dogovaranja. U Kuala Lumpuru je potpisan opšti ugovor o sindikaciji, dok se sutra (utorak, 8.8.2006.) u Sarajevu, u sjedištu HVB Central profit banke potpisuje kreditni ugovor između Bosmala d.o.o., HVB Central profit banke i Nove banjalučke banke o zajedničkom finansiranju Bosmala d.o.o.", izjavio je Edin Šabanović, izvršni direktor Bosmala d.o.o.

U izgradnju Bosmal City Centra Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad do sada je investirala ukupno 100 miliona KM i to je najveće strano greenfield ulaganje u BiH. Dodatnih 50 miliona KM upotrijebiće se za završetak Bosmal City Center-a, prvog kondominijuma u ovom dijelu Europe.

http://bosmal.com/images/news/large/2006-08-10-ugovor-002.jpg

http://bosmal.com/images/news/large/2006-08-10-ugovor-001.jpg

Link: http://bosmal.com/ba/?lg=ba&nav_ID=5&ID=191

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/9170/1yb4.jpg

HVB Central profit banka i Bosmal potpisali ugovor o finansiranju

Predstavnici Bosmala d.o.o., HVB Central profit banke i Nove banjalučke banke potpisali su kreditni ugovor u vrijednosti od 35 miliona KM u Sarajevu, u utorak, 8. augusta 2006. godine.

Ugovor su u ime HVB Central profit banke potpisali Alexander Zsolnai, generalni direktor Banke i Almir Krkalić, izvršni direktor, te Sanela Pašić, izvršna direktorica Nove banjalučke banke, s jedne i Edin Šabanović, izvršni direktor Bosmala d.o.o., s druge strane.

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/3884/2om6.jpg

Alexander Zsolnai je tom prilikom kazao kako je za završetak radova na Bosmal City Center-u potrebno oko 50 miliona KM, te da 35 miliona finansiraju HVB CP banka i Nova banjalučka banka, dok je ostatak od 10 miliona dolara obezbijedila Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad.

Govoreći o ovom finansijskom aranžmanu, Almir Krkalić, između ostalog, kazao je kako je kompletna finansijska konstrukcija sada zatvorena:

"Očekujemo da će se u relativno kratkom vremenskom periodu objekat završiti i da će Sarajevo dobiti ono što očekujemo već zadnju godinu dana".

Edin Šabanović, izvršni direktor Bosmala d.o.o. rekao je kako je Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad do sada u izgradnju Bosmal City Center-a investirala 100 miliona KM:

"Uz ova kreditna sredstva, očekujemo da ćemo objekat završiti za 12 mjeseci", rekao je izvršni direktor Bosmala.
http://bosmal.com/ba/?lg=ba&nav_ID=5&ID=192

my thought on this is that the Banks are the primary owners of Bosmal and they are getting tired of the games that the two brothers are playing. so the banks are stepping in to make certain that their investment goes through...

Yes, but this is Bosmal. Their Bosmal city center should have been completed ages ago, its seems to me like the company has been dicking around for far too long, what makes the banks confident that these guys won't dick around some more?

It just seems so easy for them to get 50 Million credit, but what assets do these guys have? Those buildings were built not with Bosmal money but on credit with Bank Islam Malaysia. So Bosmal borrowed money to build the Bosmal city center, the buildings they couldn't finish, and now the company manages to get more funds????? Their track record says a lot! What makes these new borrowed funds from being enough?? What makes Bosmal capable from finishing the job, if they couldn't finish it the first time around?? How did they secure more money for the project???

Yes, but this is Bosmal. Their Bosmal city center should have been completed ages ago, its seems to me like the company has been dicking around for far too long, what makes the banks confident that these guys won't dick around some more?

It just seems so easy for them to get 50 Million credit, but what assets do these guys have? Those buildings were built not with Bosmal money but on credit with Bank Islam Malaysia. So Bosmal borrowed money to build the Bosmal city center, the buildings they couldn't finish, and now the company manages to get more funds????? Their track record says a lot! What makes these new borrowed funds from being enough?? What makes Bosmal capable from finishing the job, if they couldn't finish it the first time around?? How did they secure more money for the project???

Eh, that's business for you. They thought "taking risks" implied taking stupid ones too. :ohno:

I don't understand how these guys can even afford to wear suits anymore, they should be sued for every cent they have.

Mirza, where's this tallest european skyscraper under construction in Sarajevo at?
You better not have lied to me! :D

Look at the Bosnia & Herzegovina thread on the EE main page.. its in Bosnian,but i guess ull understand the subject at least,if ure from Bulgaria :D

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3463/bosmalsj9.jpg

nice picture

the commie blocks around make BOSMAL look strange.

is it really completed?? have people started moving inro the units? Have the restaurant on top started business?

is it really completed?? have people started moving inro the units? Have the restaurant on top started business?

No its not completed yet, it`ll be completed next year

No its not completed yet, it`ll be completed next year

:dunno: hopefully...

i gave up on the guessing game

(i have an article from BH Dani 2004 stating that they were supposed to be finished, two years later still not there...)

New pics from BOSMAL website

http://80.65.77.242/rotateimage.aspx?cv=kamera1&lastName=z_kamera1_7.jpg

http://80.65.77.242/rotateimage.aspx?cv=kamera2&lastName=z_kamera2_6.jpg

http://80.65.77.242/kamera3%5Cz_kamera3_6.jpg

http://80.65.77.242/rotateimage.aspx?cv=kamera4&lastName=z_kamera4_6.jpg

Wow, BOSMAL is really advancing fast in their work!

Kudos! Kudos!

I dont think even Frankfurt can build a skyscraper like this in just 4 years!

Wow, BOSMAL is really advancing fast in their work!

Kudos! Kudos!

I dont think even Frankfurt can build a skyscraper like this in just 4 years!

Um this building was suppose to be finished in like a year and a half or so....I seen a 60 story building go up in NYC in 9 months, much skinnier and less complexed then bosmal...bosmal is taking WAY WAY WAYYYYYY too long with this, damn shame.

Um this building was suppose to be finished in like a year and a half or so....I seen a 60 story building go up in NYC in 9 months, much skinnier and less complexed then bosmal...bosmal is taking WAY WAY WAYYYYYY too long with this, damn shame.I think that they were in financial trouble.

In mean time they were loby for coridor 5C in US and they plan made conzortium together with US general Wesley K. Clark (NATO commander during airstrike on Serbia).
http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2006-05-19-hillary-002.jpg http://www.bosmal.com/images/news/large/2005-10-31-clark-001.jpg


Now theirs financial troubles are over and they started again with construction of the BCC. So soon this two five stars thing will be constructed.

I don't know even it is obvius that this two guys have a good connections in Malaysia and US, but anywhere I don't belive them. They look like to me like Bugsy Siegel. Yes, they have a ideas and connections but they need someone who will control theirs finances.

ma neki su muljatori

Bosmal buildings looks quite nice... How much is a sq. meter there? Is the neighborhood good? There seem to be a lot of commie blocks around.

Also, have they thought about infrastructure? Like sewage, water, parking, etc...There will be a lot of people living there. In Bulgaria we would say that two villages live there.....this is an old commie joke

Bosmal buildings looks quite nice... How much is a sq. meter there? Is the neighborhood good? There seem to be a lot of commie blocks around.

Also, have they thought about infrastructure? Like sewage, water, parking, etc...There will be a lot of people living there. In Bulgaria we would say that two villages live there.....this is an old commie joke

Its pretty expensive, dunno how much...but its expensive trust me...only famous soccer players and politicians, musicians, actors, etc brought apartmant in the BCC. Sewage/water? Its a modern condo it has water lol...it has a underground parking lot.

Bosmal buildings looks quite nice... How much is a sq. meter there? Is the neighborhood good? There seem to be a lot of commie blocks around.

Also, have they thought about infrastructure? Like sewage, water, parking, etc...There will be a lot of people living there. In Bulgaria we would say that two villages live there.....this is an old commie joke
The neighbourhood is not that bad, and they thought about everything, Bosmal will be a city for itself :)

The neighbourhood is not that bad, and they thought about everything, Bosmal will be a city for itself :)

I think Bosmal is great but I very highly doubt that they will be able to sell a lot of those apartments. I heard sales werent going good at all and that they are pretty expensive.

I think Bosmal is great but I very highly doubt that they will be able to sell a lot of those apartments. I heard sales werent going good at all and that they are pretty expensive.

http://www.bosmal.com/ba/?lg=ba&nav_ID=12

Dakle, 2000€, sto i nije toliko skupo u odnosu na uslove koje obecavaju (ono lift do svakog stana, 24-satno obezbjedjenje i sl. A cijene stanova u gradu su ionako porasle posljednjih godina.

No, fol je u tome sto su se bogatuni ovoga grada vec stambeno zbrinuli :)

Wow, BOSMAL is really advancing fast in their work!

Kudos! Kudos!

I dont think even Frankfurt can build a skyscraper like this in just 4 years!
No, usually in Frankfurt they build a skyscraper like this for ten years! :nuts:

Vido sam danas da rade nesto na balkonima zadnjih pet spratova na kuli A, valjda ce poceti postavljati ograde

Vido sam danas da rade nesto na balkonima zadnjih pet spratova na kuli A, valjda ce poceti postavljati ograde

rade oni svaki dan nesto, samo je premalo radnika za toliku gradjevinu

the cheapest accommodation in Bosmal is 73 m2 three bedroom flat which means that it will cost £100 000 or $200 000 or 300 000 BAM. these prices are beyond reach for majority of Bosnian citizens except a few. it will sell regardless but to many foreign diplomats who can splash out on luxuries accommodation like this in Sarajevo.

rade oni svaki dan nesto, samo je premalo radnika za toliku gradjevinu

Nemaju oni para da placaju mnogo radnika ko sto placa fahro na twist toweru :D

Balkonske brisoleje

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Brisoleje na zapadnoj strani balkona kule A postavljene su i predstavljaju još jedan ukras na fasadi Bosmal City Center-a.

Radnici firme ALPAMM d.o.o. iz Tuzle još 15. oktobra počeli su da montiraju obješene fasadne elemente na balkone kule A, koji se rade od kutijastih aluminijumskih profila promjera 50 x 150 mm. Riječ je, zapravo, o veoma opasnim radovima na velikim visinama, jer je skela koja je ranije bila na kuli A skinuta, te je trebalo naći drugo rješenje.


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Amir Hadžibeganović, dipl. ing mašinstva iz “Alpamma”, rukovodilac projekta koji ova firma realizira na Bosmal City Center-u , kaže kako su, upravo zbog nedostatka skele, obavili obimnu tehnološku razradu montaže aluminijumskih profila sa pokretne skele. Ta pokretna skela montirana je na kulu A i do sada je završena zapadna strana balkona.

“U modernoj arhitektonskoj gradnji primjenjuju se fasadni elementi kojima se razbija monotonija fasade. U slučaju Bosmal City Center-a nekoliko je takvih zahvata na fasadi, a aluminijumski profili jedan su od njih. Osim ovih profila, na balkonima će posebno biti postavljena ograda. “Alpamm” treba da ugradi ukupno 10 000 dužnih metara profila ili 3000 komada”, kaže ing. Hadžibeganović.

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Sam proces je takav da se postavljaju po dva ankera u donjoj i gornjoj zoni na koje se, potom, montiraju profili.

Profili su asimetrično postavljeni na fasadu i, nakon što je završeno montiranje na jednoj, zapadnoj strani balkona kule A, prelazi se na drugu, južnu stranu, a potom i na balkone na kuli B.
http://bosmal.com/ba/?lg=ba&nav_ID=5&ID=210

17.11.2006
Konačno uređenje istaka

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Nanošenje završnog sloja boje na ukrasnim lođama i balkonima Bosmal City Center-a ovih dana se finalizira i objekat dobiva konačni izgled.

Uporedo sa bojenjem lođa, skida se skela i premješta na druge pozicije, kako bi se radovi, koje izvodi firma IN, kao glavni izvođač, obavljali što brže.

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Istaci su postavljeni ukupno na sedam spratova kule A i do sada su završeni oni na 12, 7. i 8. spratu.

“Na sređivanju fasade Bosmal City Center-a rade ukupno četiri firme, jer je IN angažovao i podizvođače, tako da radnici Fabrike građevinske opreme iz Banovića postavljaju skelu i obloge od verotek ploča na samim istacima. Firma “Terming” je zadužena za bojenje unutašnjih zidova balkona, dok radnici firme “Ultra stop” postavljaju lexan ploče iznad istaka”, kaže građevinski inženjer Amer Šabanić iz IN-a, inače vođa projekta.

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Samom bojenju fasade prethodi opsežna priprema i nanošenje tri sloja žbuke na verotek ploče. Nakon bojenja, radnici firme “Ultra stop” montiraju ploče od pleksiglasa, tkz. lexan- ploče, koje služe kao pokrov iznad lođa.

Radnici firme IN također postavljaju i završni sloj “STO mineral” fasade, odnosno 10 cm debeli sloj kamene vune na poslovnom dijelu objekta, koja će se također bojiti. Izuzetak je sami ulaz u Bosmal City Center, gdje će se zidovi, nakon bojenja, oblagati i staklenim plohama.

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Inače, ovi radovi su počeli na najvišim spratovima, dakle, na 12. spratu i kako se završavaju, skela se demontira i spušta na niže spratove.
http://bosmal.com/ba/?lg=ba&nav_ID=5&ID=211

haj fOla drOgom alOhu na tome :D

Are they not finish yet?

This is a scandal that BOSMAL is that bad to build skyscrapers.

It's amazing that despite all the projects going on, nothing has been built yet, and the Bosmal is still the tallest in the Balkans

3tmk:

Something is telling me that the new "biggest balkan building" Avaz twist tower will be finished before BOSMAL.

It's amazing that despite all the projects going on, nothing has been built yet, and the Bosmal is still the tallest in the Balkans

Just wait until Avaz's twister is completed, then Bosmal won't be the tallest.

yeah 162m loud n proud :cool:

Just wait until Avaz's twister is completed, then Bosmal won't be the tallest.I am afraid Avaz TT will be before completed than Bosmal CC. :)

I am afraid Avaz TT will be before completed than Bosmal CC. :)

I've been thinking the same thing recently. :D It seems like the only "slow" project in Sarajevo is BCC; ironically, that's the first project that set off our construction boom.

These buildings are all looking great and stuff but you guys know what a condo is right? Even though you buy your own apartment, you still commit to paying a rather high monthly service/maintenance fee. And yeah, they do maintain the buildings quite well but I would hate being tied to a monthly fee like that for my home...

These buildings are all looking great and stuff but you guys know what a condo is right? Even though you buy your own apartment, you still commit to paying a rather high monthly service/maintenance fee. And yeah, they do maintain the buildings quite well but I would hate being tied to a monthly fee like that for my home...

The BCC is just too expensive in general. I doubt the average person is able to afford the prices.

its not built for the average person..

its built for the politician class and the post-war rich.

Some new pics from bosmal.com

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those are not new pictures

those are not new pictures

They are :)

yeah they are,pa pogledajte ukrasne lođe,skoro su završene ili što bi naši dragi susjedi rekli svršene :| :D

They are :)

glup si

^^ wutz ur problem dood??

glup si


:shocked: :shocked:

glup si

:? sta ti je

forget about it guys, he was probably just joking around. that or he must have had a bad day, i'm sure it was nothing personal.

forget about it guys, he was probably just joking around. that or he must have had a bad day, i'm sure it was nothing personal.

sigurno :D

btw postao sam u 10 am a gore pise 3 am znali neko razlog??

click on edit profile, and then edit options. there u'll see the time zone options. change it to sarajevo's time. :)

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OMG Beca :bow: :applause:
u rool!!!!!! :happy:

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LOL cool nisam znao da ima i mali bosmal :uh: :D

beca super fotke, ta pijaca otoka je super ispala

LOL cool nisam znao da ima i mali bosmal :uh: :D

po orginalnom planu bosmal complex je trebao da ima 4 zgrade, ove dvije sto sad se grade i jos 2 manje prije ovih veliki. Te dvije manje su trebale biti 13-14 spratova, i mjesto za njih je trebalo biti gdje su one kuce na ljevoj strani od bosmala. Ali stanari nisu valjda dali da se to rusi i plan se promjenio...

evo kako je trebalo izgledati

http://www.winne.com/topinterviews/images/bosmal.jpg

nice pics Beca, still working on the building the slow ass buggers

Finalno malterisanje zidova u kuli A

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Radnici firme “Connit” iz Tuzle obavljaju završne radove malterisanja u kuli A Bosmal City Center-a.

Riječ je o mašinskom nanošenju završnog sloja grube i fine malte u komercijalnim dijelovima objekta, zatim u stubištima i penthouse-ima

Behadil Džindo, poslovođa firme “Connit” iz Tuzle:

“Trenutno završavamo nanošenje malte na zidovima požarnih stepeništa kule A i poslovnih prostora na promenadi objekta. Za ovih mjesec dana omalterisali smo oko 9000 metara kvadratnih zidova i time su ovi radovi na kuli A kompletirani. Malterisanje se obavlja mašinski i prednosti ovog postupka u odnosu na klasični su veća brzina izvođenja radova, te industrijski pripremljen materijal, što zidovima daje osobine definisane savremenim građevinskim standardima, poput čvrstoće, paropropusnosti i ujednačenog kvaliteta”, kaže Džindo.

Isporučilac materijala za završno malterisanje je firma “Stamal” iz Kreševa , iz čijih se silosa postavljenih na gradilištu pod pritiskom izbacuje materijal do mašina, gdje se spravlja i ugrađuje.

Upotrebom savremenih konstrukcijskih materijala postiže se čvrstoća i ravnina zidova i u potpunosti izbacuje mogućnost ruiniranja ivica, jer se postavljaju kutni profili, vodilice i staklena mrežica.

Kontinuiran transport materijala obavlja se potpuno automatizovano i bez ijednog zastoja. Neposredno po završetku radova na kuli A, radnici “Connit”-a prelaze na kulu B Bosmal City Center-a.

Link: http://bosmal.com/ba/?lg=ba&nav_ID=5&ID=212

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^^ jesu to slike s Bosmal Web Cama?
Meni i ne izgledaju ti tornjevi toliko loše koliko ih ljudi blate?? :dunno:
Mislim, kad se završe baš će ok izgledati :)

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hahah jel ovo onaj isti tip što je bio zaljepljen za pod kad se nešto na podu malterisalo? :rofl:

sretan bozis svima.. i onima koji ga ne slave.. blagdane su tu da si jedan drugom cestitamo.. koje god vjeroispovijedi mi bili ;)

Nesto bi me kod ovih projekata kao Bosmal City itd zanimalo.. kako je se na primjer ovaj neboder odrazio na okolinu?!? Tocno receno sta je sa sjenom koji ovakva dva nebodera iz sebe bacaju i koliko opterecuju sarajevski vodovod. Dali netko zna koliko svjetlosti ovi dva nebodera gutaju za sobom i dali sjena pada samo na rijetko naseljena podrucja grada ili je to postao u nekom smislu problem? Mislim Sarajevo nije na geografski kao Zagreb, Banja Luka ili Osijek.. nego vise kao Mostar, Tuzla ili alpska mjesta.. mislim na planine koje su zasluzni da prosjecan broj sucanih sati u tim mjestima ipak ispadnu manji nego mjesta u regiji koji taj problem zbog gegrafskog polozaja nemaju.. Posto mi je cura iz Tuzle znam da uz problem starih slanih banja zbog kojih grad tone i gradnja nebodera nije moguca na svim lokacijama.. velik problem nebodera.. sagradjenih.. za grad cini vodovod.. zbog lose infrastrukture grad se bore stalno s nestasicom vode a pogotov pritiskom zbog visokograndje koja je izgradjena za vrijeme bivse Jugsolavije. Dali tenko zna toliko se ova dva aspekta uracunavaju kad se radi o gradjevinskoj dozvoli za tavke projekte?!?

Opcenito je moje misljenje da su Sarajevu zbog skucenosti i manjka prostora vise potrebni neboderi nego li Zagrebu ili Beogradu di je neboder u biti samo neka vrsta prestiza no nikako prijeka potreba.. dok je kao sto sam rekao Sarajevu vise prijeka potreba nego prestiz!?! ipak zanimalo bi me stvarno dali sarajevsko poglavarstvo dovoljno shvaca svoju odgovornost kad se radi o neboderima i razvitku grada ili se dozvole samo daju zbog nekog prestiza.

Mislim da bez puno iluzija.. javni prijevoz je u svim bivsim glavin gradovima jugoslavije vise los nego da je dobar. Sarajevo ima adut u tome.. uzet cu primjer München da se previse ne usporedjuem sa Zagrebom ili Beogradom mada su oni u tom pitanju jako slicni Münchenu.. da nema veliki (hmm... neznam nasu rijec pa cu pokusati opisati) utjecajni pojas di ljudi putuju sa periferije u grad zbog posla. Na primjer München ima 1,2 mil stanovnika.. München kao aglomeratia ima 2,5 mil.. no pojas utjecaja iz kojeg ljudi s periferije dolaze u aglomeratiju zbog posla oduhvaca 3 mil stanovnika.. znaci sve ukupno 5,5 mil ljudi su manje vise koncentrisani i prisiljeni putovati zbog posla u metropolu.. taj pojas se prosteze manje/vise oko 120 km oko grada.. da ne rastezem.. Oni koji u Sarajevu rade u biti vecin i tamo zive.. znaci infrastruktura nije ono o cemu se mora puno brinuti.. no ipak.. dali se razmislja o tome poboljsati ifrastruktura.. pogotovo u pogledu na ove nebodere.. jer kad pogledam ovu sliku 162 metara visokog avaz twist tower se stvarno pitam dali ce svi ti ljudi koji ce tamo raditi dolaziti pjesice doma:

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Evo nadam se da ovo sto sam napisao nitko nece uzeti za pogresno nego da ce se kroz svu nasu zelju da se sagrade visoki i lijepi neboderi razviti neka na neku vrstu kriticno gledanje na to sto vise i sto vece.. pogotovo u tom glupom natjecanju dali ce Zagreb, Sarajevo ili Beograd imati veci neboder i da sve to malo kriticno pocnemo gledati.

Kroz povijest i kroz sadasnju vizuru grada Sarajevo, Ljubljana i Zagreb ce uvijek biti ljepsi gradovi od Skoplja, Beograda ili Podgorice.. opet.. nemojte me krivo shvacati.. stara jezgra grada prica svoju pricu.. a daleko smo od toga da i jedan od ovih gradova bi sa svojom skyline mogao konkurirati New Yorku ili sta ti ja znam da bi upravo zbog nebodera turisti dolazili u nase gradove. No upravo zbog toga.. dok Beograd, Skoplje ili Podgorica si mogu dozvoliti vise eksperimenta u neboderima ovi drugi gradovi imaju vecu odgovornost.. hrhr

vidim suvise puno vec pricam a najgore u tome je sto kroz 29 godina u njemackoj mi jednostavno nedostaju prave rijeci ili smisao da tocno ono kazem kao sto bi mogao na njemackom pa kruzim ko neka zenturaca koja ispija kavu..

nadam se da ste skuzili o cemu sam pricao i da se sam vas kroz tu svu pricu mogao barem malo mogao poticati da razmislite o svemu receneom u mom tekstu..

pozdrav :cheers:

^^ Best is this.

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@Mimica: Thanx for not telling me where the Sarajevo thread is :scouserd: .

I found it my self, but you know thanx anyway! :weirdo:

what happened with this project, Sarajevo soon will have one of the best skyline's in Central Europe.

With this tower just in right place, and new 167m tower and media center one, wow, Sarajevo will dominate region.

what happened with this project, Sarajevo soon will have one of the best skyline's in Central Europe.

With this tower just in right place, and new 167m tower and media center one, wow, Sarajevo will dominate region.

dominate region?!? Mic stvrano me iznenadjujas.. koda da neboderi stvarno reprezentiraju dominaciju.. izgleda da nisi pratiojo forum gdje mozes vec vidjeti slike i specijalni forum o tom neboderu s prvim slikama a i ne ono sto sam do sada napisao...

dominate region?!? Mic stvrano me iznenadjujas.. koda da neboderi stvarno reprezentiraju dominaciju.. izgleda da nisi pratiojo forum gdje mozes vec vidjeti slike i specijalni forum o tom neboderu s prvim slikama a i ne ono sto sam do sada napisao...

i believe he meant dominating the region in terms of skyline.

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koce odgoviriti bambamu. kad se covjek vec potrudio da napise post.

bambam altough i dont live in Sarajevo,ill try to give u an answer,just because u made an effort and wrote such a long post lol :D but later,now i have to study hemija/kemija im havin a big test tomorrow :bash:

Nesto bi me kod ovih projekata kao Bosmal City itd zanimalo.. kako je se na primjer ovaj neboder odrazio na okolinu?!? Tocno receno sta je sa sjenom koji ovakva dva nebodera iz sebe bacaju i koliko opterecuju sarajevski vodovod. Dali netko zna koliko svjetlosti ovi dva nebodera gutaju za sobom i dali sjena pada samo na rijetko naseljena podrucja grada ili je to postao u nekom smislu problem?

Dobrodosao na forum i drago mi je da neko obraca paznju i na "detalje" ovoga tipa.
Bosmala sto se tice, sa kompletne zapadne strane su niske zgrade Chengic Vile 2, i to ne tako blizu, tako da jutarnje sunce ne moze napraviti Bosmalovu sjenu dovoljno dugom da ih "dostige". Sa juzne strane je cesta, a iznad ceste Hrasno Brdo na kojem su samo stambene kucice ili zgradice, nikakve sanse nema za sjenom, posebno zbog toga sto sunca sa druge strane, tj. sa sjevera i nema :) A na sjeveru je takodjer cesta koja ide od Bosmala ka mostu Malezijsko - bosanskog prijateljstva, na putu se nalazi jedna zgrada koja je jednim svojim malim dijelom eventualno "ugrozena" od sjene...
Sa istocne strane su poslijepodne u sjeni dijelovi dvije manje zgrade, ali ni to nije tako strasno obzirom da se radi o tolikom neboderu. Mislim da neki cak i manji objekti prave vise stete i tom smislu no sto to cini Bosmal.
Voda nije problem u Sarajevu upravo zato sto je u nekom smislu planinski grad.

Posto mi je cura iz Tuzle znam da uz problem starih slanih banja zbog kojih grad tone i gradnja nebodera nije moguca na svim lokacijama.. velik problem nebodera.. sagradjenih.. za grad cini vodovod.. zbog lose infrastrukture grad se bore stalno s nestasicom vode a pogotov pritiskom zbog visokograndje koja je izgradjena za vrijeme bivse Jugsolavije. Dali tenko zna toliko se ova dva aspekta uracunavaju kad se radi o gradjevinskoj dozvoli za tavke projekte?!?
Tuzla je sasvim drugi slucaj. Ona je vise nalik na Osijek nego na Sarajevo po toj tvojoj podjeli. Ravnicarski grad, ona brdasca okolo i ne znace mnogo za sam grad. Tonjenje i problem visokogradnje je zbog rudnika soli ispod samog grada sto jos manje veze sa Sarajevom ima.
Kao sto vec rekoh, Sarajevo nema problema sa vodom. Koliko se gleda nosivost tla, mogucnost klizista i sl. pri gradnji visokih objekata, vjerovatno zavisi od slucaja do slucaja, s tim da moram napomenuti kako Bosmal po tom pitanju NEMA manu, u njegovom slucaju je koristeno samo najbolje, od materijala do kadrova.

Opcenito je moje misljenje da su Sarajevu zbog skucenosti i manjka prostora vise potrebni neboderi
Ima Sarajevo gdje da se siri, samo da nema ilegalne gradnje i da se napravi konstruktivan regulacioni plan. Gledaj samo ove sirine gledane sa podnozja Igmana:

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ipak zanimalo bi me stvarno dali sarajevsko poglavarstvo dovoljno shvaca svoju odgovornost kad se radi o neboderima i razvitku grada ili se dozvole samo daju zbog nekog prestiza.
Ne pravi se mnogo nebodera u Sarajevu, ali ono sto se gradi ili se planira graditi je, barem po mom misljenju, bez neke velike stete po sam grad i njegove stanovnike.
Veci problem je niskogradnja... Tako su ispred vecine zgrada na Alipasinom polju gledali da ubace (tik ljudima pod prozore) neke kao poslovne centre koji sada predstavljaju cisto ruglo grada. Trebalo bi zabraniti dalju izgradnju Shopping centara u Sarajevu, vjerujem da ih imamo dovoljno za nekoliko narednih desetljeca. Toliko da ce se vjerovatno mnogi uskoro pozatvarati.

Mislim da bez puno iluzija.. javni prijevoz je u svim bivsim glavin gradovima jugoslavije vise los nego da je dobar. Sarajevo ima adut u tome.. uzet cu primjer München da se previse ne usporedjuem sa Zagrebom ili Beogradom mada su oni u tom pitanju jako slicni Münchenu.. da nema veliki (hmm... neznam nasu rijec pa cu pokusati opisati) utjecajni pojas di ljudi putuju sa periferije u grad zbog posla. Na primjer München ima 1,2 mil stanovnika.. München kao aglomeratia ima 2,5 mil.. no pojas utjecaja iz kojeg ljudi s periferije dolaze u aglomeratiju zbog posla oduhvaca 3 mil stanovnika.. znaci sve ukupno 5,5 mil ljudi su manje vise koncentrisani i prisiljeni putovati zbog posla u metropolu.. taj pojas se prosteze manje/vise oko 120 km oko grada.. da ne rastezem.. Oni koji u Sarajevu rade u biti vecin i tamo zive.. znaci infrastruktura nije ono o cemu se mora puno brinuti.. no ipak.. dali se razmislja o tome poboljsati ifrastruktura.. pogotovo u pogledu na ove nebodere.. jer kad pogledam ovu sliku 162 metara visokog avaz twist tower se stvarno pitam dali ce svi ti ljudi koji ce tamo raditi dolaziti pjesice doma:
Sarajevo je mali grad i kao takav ima dobro rijesen gradski i prigradski saobracaj. Svi novi objekti imaju predvidjena mjesta za parkiranje. Avaz je jako blizu i tramvajske pruge i autobuskih stanica.
Infrastrukturu svakako treba poboljsati, ali je mnogo stvari prioritetnije, prije svega sami ulaz u grad, izgradnja zaobilaznice, alternativnih puteva, prosirenje postojecih i sl.

Kroz povijest i kroz sadasnju vizuru grada Sarajevo, Ljubljana i Zagreb ce uvijek biti ljepsi gradovi od Skoplja, Beograda ili Podgorice..
Da, zato je u Sarajevu, Ljubljani i Zagrebu mnogo vaznija rekonstrukcija jer ovi gradovi raspolazu sa mnogo "materijala" koji su im njihovi preci ostavili, nego konstrukcija koja treba biti prioritet gradovima tipa Skoplja, Beograda ili Podgorice koji u smislu starog dijela ne nude mnogo.

dok Beograd, Skoplje ili Podgorica si mogu dozvoliti vise eksperimenta u neboderima ovi drugi gradovi imaju vecu odgovornost.. hrhr
Da, to je ono sto sam gore napisala!

vidim suvise puno vec pricam a najgore u tome je sto kroz 29 godina u njemackoj mi jednostavno nedostaju prave rijeci ili smisao da tocno ono kazem kao sto bi mogao na njemackom pa kruzim ko neka zenturaca koja ispija kavu..
Ali si dobro ocuvao maternji jezik, svaka cast! Pogledaj ostale na forumu, tek poneku godinicu vani, a pravopis i gramatika odavno zaboravljeni.

Pozdrav!

Znali neko koliko kvadratnih metara ima Bosmal??

@Beca: Puno ti hvala na ovom opsirnom odgovoru.. nisam ni znao da Sarajevo ima toliko puno mjesta za prosirenje.. nekako sam uvijek mislio da je SA veoma skucen grad okruzen sa svih strana velikim planinama.. stvarno udobno iznenadjenje ;)

Pa jeste sarajevo skuceno, ako se gleda u odnosu na centar grada, jer centar je okruzen brdima tj. planinama sa svih strana.

^^ da, stari dio grada se ne da siriti, ali to i nije lose, ja bih licno u tom dijelu striktno zabranila bilo kakav vid konstrukcije ako nije u 100%-tnom duhu starog (makar u pogledu eksterijera), tamo neka vise samo rekonstrukciju

i, btw, hvala ti sto si tamo negdje stao u moju odbranu, sljivopita ceka :)

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