THE SHANG GRAND TOWER Makati
by The Shang Grand Tower Corp. and EDSA Properties Holdings, Inc.

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We've been your home away from home for years... so we've decided to let you stay for good!

Location
Situated in the pulsing cosmopolitan hub of Legaspi Village in Makati City, The Shang Grand Tower is stunning from every angle. It is a seamless fusion of two elements of superior modern living: convenience and tranquility.

Features
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Updates
The Shang Grand Tower - 46 floors - 2005
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It's already under construction, right?

Yes, its already u/c. It will be the country's most luxurious residential tower. A unit costs a lot of $$... According to Francis, it is about 5 storeys high already (right?)

that was last month Ryan.
Now, construction is already at the 10th and 11th levels...heading it's way up pretty fast. the base and foundation took the longest time to finish.

Wow, that is fast!! Last December, they were still digging.

hmm.. great. it's going up fast. but 2005 is still far away. or is it due 2006?:?

Originally posted by renell

hmm.. great. it's going up fast. but 2005 is still far away. or is it due 2006?:?

Turnover is on 2005

very grand~

Originally posted by Edmundtanso

very grand~

yup indeed...

it was featured in one of The Star's columns last week. it came with a whole set of shots of the model unit. amazing!! and the rooms looked so big (probably cause of the high ceiling)... it's as if it was in some palace or Malacanang or the presidential suite of some hotel in DC...

LOL @ Absent/Lance
that means they feature it every week and in each major dailies?
as of last month, about 50% of the units were already sold...
and this one claims itself of not having a single square meter of commercial space, everything will be residential. no skywalks connecting to any of the structures around the area, plus maybe high walls. i forgot the price, it's something like 24 - 50 million? a broker sent me a quotation last year. i'll check it again on my inbox. oh by the way, the feature said it's shaped like a letter "Z" and the occupants of the extremes will have a 270 deg view outside! that's cool!so is the price!

wow! that expensive eh? how much was roxas triangle going on before? i am suprised they decided not to build the 2nd twin tower because it's one of my favorite building and designed by SOM!

Shang has more expensive units Edmund. ORT is selling at 28 millions only. but Shang seems to be more marketable than ORT. The twin of which is officially cancelled, too bad. But who knows, in the future, we might see another construction in the area (which is still fenced at present)...this time probably a taller tower. I can actually see the upper part of this tower from where i am sitting at office...and took several photos of it last December.

And people have enough money to buy units in this baby?? wow....

The features and amenties in this tower might be much more superior than ORT so that makes up for its high cost difference...:cool:

too bad about roxas triangle....not too crazy about the design of the shang though based from the renderings....kinna goddy imo :)

I agree. Roxas triangle was clean, fresh and modern. While Shang is nice, but too tacky and full of it. It is overdesigned.

there's a life size scale model at Shangri la mall at ortigas (as well as on Shangrila hotels), and i got a handout from the sales and marketing guys. it says the floor to floor height is 3.2 m. does that mean the thickness of the flooring is 0.2 m? that would make the floor to ceiling height to be 3.0 m as ive seen from the papers.

who owns this tower, it is the shangri-la group

says in the top "by The Shang Grand Tower Corp. and EDSA Properties Holdings, Inc"

@francis, most likely, since there has to be some thickness in order to stop sound from the lower floor... so this one is a sure 150m building, and could be more.. it looks like there's something on the roof, a slanted thingy, that could give it more height..

yes right Renell. who knows, that might be about 5 floors or something. must be housing the elevator and ventilation machines. its now going up real fast. if Manansala goes up one floor in 6 days, this one seems to go up one and a half in one week. hahaha...they must be beating the 2005 deadline? i dun think its doable. probably 2005 or later.

well 2005 is only 8 months away, and besides the structure itself, you also have the interior, which is important for residentials like these. so they must be rushing wherever it's possible

It's sometime in 2005, maybe not the beginning of 2005.

but still, that's a year and a half for finishing the structure, putting the curtain wall or glass, and furniture.. imo thats the reason for the rush

This is quite fast in Philippine standards. Normally buildings in the Philippines take longer because they have to use high quality materials and methods of construction due to the earthquake and typhoon threat. Maybe they have better technology working for them and a lot of construction workers.

maybe the technology has indeed improved.

this one is not yet to the height of the Columns (i think), but it soon will be. i still havent passed by it thoroughly. it's quite hidden.

Renell, try this once...from MRT Ayala...go thru that exit that passes thru the newly opened extension of SM makati (3rd level) ...then it goes thru Glorietta...then walk til u get to Landmark....the take the walkway thru Greenbelt 4, then off u go heading at Enterprise. before u reach enterprise, u wud see the Shang tower u/c site. now, u can go to Enterprise from MRT w/o taking the roadway.

I know thats pretty cool... I saw that little passage way in SM last december, meaning that you can go all the way to enterprise without stepping on the ground/street and getting hit by rain drops. A good place to take pics of Shang is to go up the elevated walkway and take pics from there, so you can see what is really going on without the fencing covering your view.

very right GreyX...i mean on the Shang pic thing u said. u can even go to the 4th level of that parking level so u cud have an unobstucted view of it.

Yeah...Just park your car on the 4th level (if you have one):D If you dont have a car then just go to the elevated walkway:tongue2:

hahah...that elevated walkway has part of it that goes thru the parking level at the back of Manila bank bldg. just go to the 4th level when u go there. i think i took my avatar from that location.

oh cool...I'll go there too, when im there.:D you get a good view of Enterprise there then. your avatar is nice.

haha..thanks. Enterprise is the nice one. not my avatar.
the guard (not in uniform) was busy arguing with his girlfriend/wife so i made myself busy at taking pics. Renell, be cautios tho...the whole metro is very strict this summer. u know the threats. just be friendly with them. or u might want to talk with them in French to end the discussion right away :D

LOL...talking in french always solves the problems.:D

Yeah, be carefull renell. Take pics discreetly and responsibly. I sound like an adult:tongue:

when reprimanded, keep ur cool.

when i was in the car putting the side window down and taking pics, jeepney and taxi drivers were staring widly at me.. haha

hmm.. well i still have 10 or so days here. i hope i have time to check that place out.


so far, i have a clean record with security. :) maybe i havent pushed the limit enough yet..

yeah, it's funny how the secutity of these corporate buildings react when you take pictures, i was pissed when the security was giving me a hard time before when i tried to take photos of tower 1. he said i cant take photos from the sidewalk so went across the street and take photos and he said i still can't!

hahahaha...been there done that.
just keep in mid, that they're just doing their job.
when i attempted to take Shangri la photos from across the street...this guard at 6772 (?) said i should not. but hey, it's shangrila, and not 6772 (where the Brit Embassy is)...uh well, i ended up taking pics of a street boy selling newspapers.

Thats why i take pics from my car:D

sometime i get pissed taking pics in the car from the winshield, the seatbelt chokes my stomach, so i put down the side window instead :D

=) true, it's just very silly if you think about it. i could imagine them being strict for taking photos inside but outside?

yeah, but then again they might suspect us for terrorists:D so maybe try and look tourist-like.

I hate it when there is dirt on the windshield that destroys the picture... Also, when the flash goes off and there is a huge reflection of the dashboard on the picture. At those times i lower the glass. But when i do that, ppl see me taking pics and either give me a weird stare or a short laugh.

Anyways, back to topic. So this is around the 10th floor? How many cranes operating, 1 or 2?

only one GreyX. i don't think two cranes can be accomodated on such a congested area where the construction is. neighboring towers are only several feet away. Greenbelt Parkplace is real huge so 2 cranes were used. now there's only one up there since the lower tower is already topped off. i haven't visited the site for quite sometime. any news Renell? the last time i saw it...construction is already at the 11/12/13 levels. unlike Manansala or Joya, this one was only sold/launched locally (i guess). and to date, it's more than 50% sold. not bad considering the price.

wow. people are really willing to spend money as long as it is a good projects.

50% is pretty good actually because of its high price, congested location and the fact that it was only being sold locally.

yeah, that's pretty good! design and location must be very good!

residentials now have to think of unique concept that sells out to their target market.
this one targetted the Class A, B market. and it claims that there's no single square mater that's alloted for commerical purpose, everything is residential. so probly,that's the unique thing about it. expect other unique projects to see out fast...think of Serendra, it's the very first time for RP to have such a residential complex planned that way. Penhurst has a different mode of selling. I think some other projects followed its scheme. like Kensington. Now what about GA Tower...? it's financed by Pag-ibig and monthly amortization starts off only AFTER the tower is built! that made it sell out like hotcake...in 3 month time, only about 3 units are left.

yeah...that's good news for the consumers. atleast these developers are getting to be more competitive and these will greatly benefit the consmers!

francis...any update on serendra? saw any renderings?

not yet...ill try to visit the malls. there must be fliers given to the public interested.

only one GreyX. i don't think two cranes can be accomodated on such a congested area where the construction is. neighboring towers are only several feet away. Greenbelt Parkplace is real huge so 2 cranes were used. now there's only one up there since the lower tower is already topped off. i haven't visited the site for quite sometime. any news Renell? the last time i saw it...construction is already at the 11/12/13 levels. unlike Manansala or Joya, this one was only sold/launched locally (i guess). and to date, it's more than 50% sold. not bad considering the price.
dont have a lot of news for this one, like i said it's hidden, and my schedule is tight

Renell, lend me you cam and ill go there. and hey guess what? its now visible in the skyline!

from greenbelt it's visible, but unlike One Legaspi, it has tall neighbors. i'd like to see it when it's topped out. when is this one due? i guess the top out would be 6-8 months before it's due

Cant wait till i get home. Maybe i will be able to see it from my rooftop:D

definitely u would see it from there GreyX, unless u r talking of the Cityland lowrise rooftop. some part of it is now visible if ur along Magallanes interchange going along EDSA. nice!

definitely u would see it from there GreyX, unless u r talking of the Cityland lowrise rooftop. some part of it is now visible if ur along Magallanes interchange going along EDSA. nice!

so its pretty tall already. i mean quite tall. hahaha, of course i cant see it from the lowrise cityland, the cityland tower is blocking the entire view of the skyline anyways!!:D

what floor is it now?

what floor is it now?
scroll up...and u will see. :D

i've just read the article last feb 14 for shang tower. it's awesome.

btw, construction as per my last visit is now at the 13/14/15 floors. u see, constructions are being done on several levels at the same time! it's gradually showing up in makati's skyline!

btw, i discovered something last Tuesday when i went to the edge of our office...that part adjacent to Manhattan Square. The top of which seems to be identical with Shang's Slopey top. ill post a pic next time!

Great:okay: Construction progress is really good.

sure, i'll be waiting for that pic.

what i got is a pic of the top of Manhattan square. I already posted that before.

this new tower will be a nice nice addition to the Makati skyline... with its classical design (not exactly now the architecture).. it seemed majestic like the Enterprise beside it....yeah... it's construction is quite quick two... it has already topped its adjacent low rise buildings...

i was talking about this photo...


Manhattan Square Top
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/p6ad657b2426dc1d1efc2623b008c4e08/f9d5a0cf.jpg

i just wonder where will they put the helipad...
maybe the topmost part has a flat portion anyway.

the building gonna have an helipad in the first place?

i dunno. it says there will be no single square meter dedicated for commercial purpose.
plus i haven't seen 'helipad' on the building specs.

btw, they're now past the 12th floor. normally, there's no 13th so theyre working now on the 14/15th floors. i could see this slowly emerging out of the skyline if you take Skyway from the south. and i could part of it from one side of our office.

Great! progress is quite fast. It will surely be a landmark in the skyline.:cool:

Great! Hope you can post pictures.

what about you do it Thomasian? :D
itd be pretty easy to get one...be sure you would be able to elude the guards or at least be ready to talk Latin or French when they approach you, to end up any possible discussion or argument.

Any links to the site or perhaps some floorplans?

http://www.theshanggrandtower.com/

Newspaper scan of Shang Grand under construction. PDI, May 25th.

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/NYeriq/shanggrand01.jpg

great! thanks Eriq...
probably, they're two or three floor higher now than that one on the pic above.

the shang is located in a good area. i can not wait to see it get higher and be part of makati skylne. the top of the building should be nice especially at night when it is lit!

would it be lighted up Edmund? have you checked out their scale model at Shangri La?
the top does not light up tho. =D

francis....nope wasnt able to check the scale model. no light on top of this building? i figured it will since it top is very elaborated. it would be nice if they will light the top like chrysler and empire state building =)

hahaha...yeah...im not sure.
hopefully it will...otherwise, it would not be as grand as its name.
it should stand out in the skyline and be conspicuous enough like Enterprise.

francis....nope wasnt able to check the scale model. no light on top of this building? i figured it will since it top is very elaborated. it would be nice if they will light the top like chrysler and empire state building =)

OPPS....u double posted.
it could now be seen on the skyline if you are approaching from south.

opps double posted......yeah they better put some dang light on that building! =) or else it wont go with it's name =)

its starting to show up on the skyline!
hopefully, i could find time to get some good shots of makati skyline...

yes please francis, that would be cool!

yeah cool. itd be more cool if you lend me your digicam! :D

okay francis =)

ur going to lend me ur cam?

yeah sure =)

I took some pictures again yesterday and here are some pics from Greenbelt 2 viewing the construction area of Shang

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid121/pd3e697a4cf7b3a56c1b565220210ed0b/f8556984.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid121/p2c436bebb54ad6aea5779916d88218e8/f8554e6c.jpg

you can see that Shang is not about halfway as high as Enterprise Tower 1...

yeah...nice photos pau. thanks for having time to take those photos.
do you have any close shots? wormviews? :D

Very good...Nice to see that construction is going at a reasonably quick pace.

Pau is now the U/C photo update man, while Francis is the observation/info update man:D:D

my observations= it looks massive, imagine it with 46 floors, and green glass :guns1:

massive yes, since it's shaped like Z.
and the scale model looks really massive. im planning to take some pics of it at Shangri La. thats my next mission next week! :D

thanks pau for the update photo.....going fast! yeah it's hard to imagine a building with a green tint of a window, but recio and casas architect is good so i expect this blg to be nice....

thanks pau for the update photo.....going fast! yeah it's hard to imagine a building with a green tint of a window, but recio and casas architect is good so i expect this blg to be nice....

hmm.. true, especially in makati, there's not a lot of green-tinted windows in the CBD.

yeah...nice photos pau. thanks for having time to take those photos.
do you have any close shots? wormviews? :D

maybe this weekend, I didn't have my cam last weekend.. maybe.. i'll walk around Makati and take closer shots of them.... ;D

anyways... what's wormviews?

nice pau. GreyX is right..you're now the U/C photo update man. :applause:
btw, wormview?it's like this one..(PB Com..not so sure if this will work tho..)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid90/p4999c84fe1c53183c2f5896547da3f3c/fa710890.jpg

haha..nice pic Mhe-Ann. heheh...

and you took that. :D

ahh... ok... I get it....

and thanks... I'll try to keep you guys updated on the U/C's near my vicinity... :D

francis that's a great photo of PBcom

ahh... ok... I get it....

and thanks... I'll try to keep you guys updated on the U/C's near my vicinity... :D
near and those that are quite far.hehehe.:D

hmmm.... i'll take their pix pag naligaw ako dun... hehehee... :D

Edmund, i took that when i was practicing of using the SLR cam i was supposed to buy.
Pau...you got a strategic location being near Ayala Center. I have no digicam. so there, just plain documentaries without the photos. It costs a lot to scan film negatives. You should try sneaking thru buildings. Then take pics. :D But hey, don't do that illegally. Make it subtler. Like you got a business there or something.

francis...that's a great shot of pbcom!

hmm... i'll try... but you know some of our buildings here in makati... they require to leave an ID or something...:D

I can get into the Enterprise maybe, since I have some business there...:D

Sneaking thru buildings is fun. Last year, same month, me and my classmates went into the 54th/F of PBCoM (before that, we passed our resume on the 40th floor something...then using the elevator, we go up to each floor until we reached the 54F). We stayed there for about 1/2hr! Fortunately there was no guard so we enjoyed the view (about 300 degrees):banana: The floor is still vacant that time...ang saya! :carrot:

mhe-ann that must be fun! i like to do that also =)

what happened to the other 60 degrees Mhe-Ann?
She's got PB Com and RCBC at her record. Well, i got RCBC, LKG, Cityland Herrera on my list. :D We were together during that RCBC sneak!

The other 60 degrees is already a plain wall, not glass. ganda pa naman ng weather nun. and yeah, that unforgettable RCBC sneaked! :D The guard on the next floor caught us, and asked "bakit anjan kayo?" I told him "Nagpasa lan po ng resume" (which was a wrong alibi) that's why he said, sa 10F(?) lan kayo dapat mapasa ng resume nakaabot na kayo dito?!" Si Francis naman, "tinitingnan lan po namin ang panorama" (e ang hina nyang magsalita, and the guard didn't understand I guess)...Next thing? Inunahan na namin ung guard. Dali-dali kaming bumaba dahil baka tingnan pa ung ID namin. hehehe. :lol: That was really fun. :D

hahahha.... that was an adventure huh... :D

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid122/p76a44000f607eaecf80ee508d24f6716/f839c5d9.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid122/pe029e09ee4dcdd171d30bc94ca314cc7/f839c25e.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid122/p7fc5ca8388f8c00e00fe0f595b425f33/f839ee53.jpg

the last pic is from Paseo de Roxas, just beside Citibank.. you can already see the crane and to upper tip of the Shang's construction... It is already past the lower building along Ayala... :D

looks like it's a quarter done at least... starting to poke out of the skyline. when is turnover date for this one?

many thanks for the pics pau. :okay:

I was in Shangri-La this morning and I was able to take a couple of pictures of the Shang... this was stolen shots... I didn't tell the 2 salespeople that I'll take pictures.. hehehe :D

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid122/pb32093cbd1c75983f72ea95d86b96373/f82e4c9d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid122/p6f9cf0ed2812dce93c6e69d7317b8166/f82e4d68.jpg
Behind the sample you can see another faint rendering that shows how tall it is going to be compared with Enterprise...:D

wow! that was nice Pau...was that at Shang Shaw? arent you allowed to take pics? pretend to be a prospective buyer so they would allow you to take pics. not sure with that tho. what about visiting Residences model units? they have scale models about smaller than Shang scale model.

heheheh... actually... I just went near the model and just shoot and walk away.. hehehe.... yup it is in the Shangri-La mall in Shaw.....

the first pic, I hid behind a board of renderings and the second, I timed it while the two sales people are in the phone then shoot and walk away.... of course I made it sure that no guards are looking.. hehehe....

the Residences.. hmm.. but it is inside a shop, I'm not sure if they'd allow me to take pictures...:D I'm planning to take pictures of the Columns model in Glorietta4...:D

pede na rin, kc open naman yung Columns, plus malaki na rin yung scale model. what about yung Residences sa Glorrieta? with New World Hotel beside Laguna Tower? Then we could make some speculations on its height.

hmmm... where is it in Glorietta?...

greats photo pau...wow, it looks very grand. i wonder if the perspective rendering is to scale to the enterprise. because enterprise is pretty tall also right?

thanks...
yeah... it is tall... 33 storeys I think is the tallest.... but from the current looks of it in construction and compared to the model... i think it would really surpass the enterprise... or at least the smaller Enterprise...

hehe. nice pics. para taung magnanakaw pag nagi-sneak thru sa mga buildings or kumukuha ng pics. hahaha. :D

Enterprise has 40 and 30 storeys respectively. Right Renell? ORT is about as high as the taller tower. but Philamlife is taller than the taller Enterprise. Hopefully, Shang would be taller than Enterprise really. floor to ceiling height for Shang is...errrr, i forgot. i think its 3.0m? ORT has about 2.8m

ORT means???

ORT- One Roxas Triangle. :)

ops, sorry there.
i have OLP in mind. One Legaspi Park.
but i guess its the same for One Roxas Triangle. I mean the floor to ceiling height.
Eaton by the way has so far the highest floor to ceiling height according to my spying. its more than 3 m.

the model units are at The Fort near Pacific Plaza. the Kuok group actually spent money putting up a separate structure for the model unit. :eek:

Would anyone care to visit the model unit? :yes:

sure...would anyone care to invite us?
i wanna go there as a VIP! hahaha....just kidding. yeah, ive seen the structure.

i want to go =)

how could you? ur seas away. i have no idea whether it was sold to international market. but considering the luxurious price, 50% sell out is pretty big already.

:) i know, i wish i was closer

i know where the place is...im just waiting for someone to invite me.
anyone? i miss the construction site of Shang Tower. I havent seen it for over a month now! im guessing its now past the 20th floor. can you confirm that @ Pau? you're the official U/C photo man here...

they are going fast!!!

hmm... i'll try... anyways.. they are going fast... its getting taller and taller as weeks pass...

This thing is tall already...so fast!! Its currently in the 20 somethings...

some update:

for the one-bedroom unit:

Area : 80.26 square meter ( with 1 parking)

Floor (all units left are facing east)

11-D P 7,576,800
9-D P 7,556,800
8-D P 7,615,800
6-D P 7,594,800

Terms of Payment :

Option 1 : 20% downpayment
50% spread over 24 months @ zero interest
30% upon turnover

Option 2 : 30% downpayment
30% payable on the 12th month
40% upon turnover

or CASH -less 9% discount

Reservation Fee: P 100,000 - (US) $ 1,800

Construction Stage : 26th floor
Completion Date : December 2005
Turnover Date : First Quarter of 2006
Owner Developer : Shangri-la Group, (KUOK)

To Date the building is : 60% sold

that's one tall building. and massive too. it's a good fit near Enterprise. :) nice one pau.

shang grand tower's construction update page
http://www.theshanggrandtower.com/const.htm

what floor is it right now?

the site is quite outdated. from my observations, i think its now nearing the 30th floor of maybe beyond that. if you are at mandarin hotel, near the Paseo, Makati ave intersection, you would notice how this tower would change the skyline of makati.

thanks for the update, Francis:)

price is at par with Essensa and ORT. Essensa was a success as per press releases, ORT was half-sold out. this one is now 60% sold out. Hopefully, more Chinese people would be enticed to buy a unit here. This project is for those who wants privacy. Whilst Soho Central in Mandaluyong claim to be connected to Shangri La and MRT with commercial spaces on its podium, this one claims there isn't any single square meter dedicated for commercial purpose. Maybe this also means there will be no helipad whatsoever.

well the roof isn't flat, so that cancels out a possibility of a helipad.

how tall is it in the 30th floor compared to Enterprise? looking at those website u/c photos, it's only steps away

Wow. This will indeed change the Makati Skyline.
I hope it will be well lighted at night when it's finished, just like the other upscale condominiums like pacific plaza, ORT and Rockwell residentials that look stunning when lighted.

im not really sure how tall is it now. but floow to celing height is higher for this one that Ayala standard. it would be reall tall anyway. This must be as tall as Enterprise Tower 1 when topped off. Well, the roof isnt really flat, but there might still be provisions for a helipad, tho i havent seen any on the specs. Who knows, that top opens up automatically and there goes the helipad.

lol... well it's mostly office towers that have helipads. i don't think unit owners want that annoying chopper sound

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid139/pa06886eb7145e4df37dfa4d18034ac34/f6fd3071.jpg

how tall is this going to be? would this be taller than the BSA near it?

BSA Makati is 38 storeys, the Shang is 46. so most likely it will, even if BSA Makati has that pyramid up top.

Will Shang Grand be taller than Enterprise?

if we look at the floors, Shang Grand should be taller (40 vs. 46). it could be around the same height. no one knows. once it's finished, i can probably estimate the height:D

Shang has high floor to ceiling heights. higher than the usual 2.8m for Ayala condos. i bet it would surpass Enterprise 1.

well.. I think a rendering in Shangri-La mall that I saw shows that it is taller than Enterprise 1

according to my calculations, it could be 190.133m :D check out Makati pictures thread

more Shang pix...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid139/p79653ae44880215c66f6698078af34f0/f6fa68e6.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid139/pff068c67bac26985bd4bb98cc1623163/f6fa6f6c.jpg

wow! this is indeed something to be anticipated. Renell, i might agree with your calculations...i.e., including the trapezoidal top.

i forgot to take mention of the trapezodial top.. damn.. you still think 190m is right even without mentioning it?

i think 190 is just right estimation including the top.

A few pics of the construction site....

facing Dela Rosa St.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid140/p4cd8018714dc5508e39279b53dd3bd6e/f6e9807d.jpg

lower levels..
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid140/pf984f03a7c7b79a427a1fdf33d05fb34/f6e98087.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid140/p72a721a8e6dd256278e327ae697b4109/f6e9808b.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid140/p04a8fc231c7656fd37a6ddddf4452b9b/f6e98091.jpg

it's now on the 34/35 level. and it's as tall as Enterprise Tower 2.

30 floors- 160m
35 floors~ 170m
40 floors~ 180m
45 floors~ 190m

just putting more concrete in my calculations:D

Renell, im thinking that the 35th level is the one which is as tall as Enterprise Tower 2. So that would make the 45th level about 200m high. You gave 2m for each floor which is quite low. floor to ceiling height for this one is about 2.9m? or is it 3.1?

wow...great pics, pau. Thanks for those. It is tall...i'd go for about 200m taking into account additional structural elements.

well francis i was just estimating, by following the "flow" of the rise if you get what i mean:D ryan you could be right 190m could be wrong it could be 200m.

it's about 3 meters from floor to floor minimum

so it will be as tall as the next block neighbor, Philamlife. but more massive. how it will make the difference in the skyline, good or bad, depends on the facade.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid141/pece3a9fc9cd12965b4e3b019ce42043d/f6c4bbe4.jpg

how many floors is it now? im estimating the height at 165m at the moment.

really massive.

looks like its going to dwarf several neighbours

Renell, im thinking that the 35th level is the one which is as tall as Enterprise Tower 2. So that would make the 45th level about 200m high. You gave 2m for each floor which is quite low. floor to ceiling height for this one is about 2.9m? or is it 3.1?

200meter thats abt 660 feet wow thats really tall among the tallest in our country when completed

200meter thats abt 660 feet wow thats really tall among the tallest in our country when completed

around the top 10. we have a lot of 200 meter scrapers (by our estimates) its just we dont know it's 200m because the exact height is not for sure.

there's:
PBcom-259m
GT International- 217m
Petron-210m
RCBC Tower 1- 205m(?)
1322 Roxas-203m
Summit One-200m
Union Bank Plaza-200m(?)
Philamlife-200m
The Shang Grand-200m(?)

around the top 10. we have a lot of 200 meter scrapers (by our estimates) its just we dont know it's 200m because the exact height is not for sure.

there's:
PBcom-259m
GT International- 217m
Petron-210m
RCBC Tower 1- 205m(?)
1322 Roxas-203m
Summit One-200m
Union Bank Plaza-200m(?)
Philamlife-200m
The Shang Grand-200m(?)

so how does One San Miguel and LKG rate?...

LKG is quite small, less than 200 m. im not sure about One San Mig.

uhmm ok...:D

do we have a list of all our skyscrapers here in the country?... arranged by height... unlike in emporis where it is by city...

uhmm ok...:D

do we have a list of all our skyscrapers here in the country?... arranged by height... unlike in emporis where it is by city...


i used to. i dunno where it is. i was the author of it, but now its not in my hands anymore. I'll compile it again. i also made a list of the u/c's, but i think francis can do that better than me

LKG is 180m, while One San Mig is 183m. though we had someone saying here the latter is reaching the big two double o.

i could make a list of U/C's except those in San Juan and Manila City area.

to make things easier, you could make it only 20 floors or above.

OH ok, then that would exclude Boni Ridge? and One Aeropolis? Did you know that there's now a proposed Two Aeropolis? It's more than 20 storey high. Located at New Manila.

I dunno how many floors they have so i wouldnt know:D

I've lost touch with my u/c list. quite frankly they're just too much:D but that's a good thing!

ONE Aeropolis at Sucat has 12 floors each i guess. but there are almost a dozen of those towers all in all.

Shang construction is now on the 36th floor. It will be completed by Dec 2005 and will be ready for turnover 3 months after.

Wow, that's a pretty fast turnover date, after the finishing of construction. They must be in a real rush. One Legaspi Park is taking a long time, with the paint, windows, etc.

i realized something today. if you're passing thru Buendia from Taft, you would see Cityland Makati Exec tower...all with that fresh new red stripe that runs vertically. But this is no good...especially true because you would see OLP on the backdrop, standing so tall and elegant.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid141/pece3a9fc9cd12965b4e3b019ce42043d/f6c4bbe4.jpg
This tower is situated in such a perfect location. :)

Say hi to you all.

Hi.:)

What level is the Shang on the picture? Add five more floors then it would be taller than Enterprise.

no, i think it would be the trapezoidal top that would make it taller than Enterprise 1.
We might need some trigonometric calculations here to compute the height of Shang based on the photos we got.
Nyway, here's something i got from an agent. He sent me this thru emial.

Hi Francis,

Nice to hear from you. By the way the building is going be 46-storey high.
It is going to be lighted at night. And Yes it is taller than the enterprise.

charlie

Let's see how grand would this be.

hehe.. haven't done trigonometry, or whatever it is before:D

If the agent is right, and there might be reason to doubt him but he is our best source. Did you ask him if acquiring more expensive units means more floor-to-ceiling heights? :D

i don't think so. ads doesn't mention of any change of f-c height as the unit becomes more expensive. nyway, ill try to ask some technical details.

Lighted at night! wow this will be one of the best looking building at night when seen from Greenbelt. Right now Enterprise is the most well lit building visible from Greenbelt.

Enterprise is probably the most lit in the whole CBD.
Now, PB Com is competing with Philamlife for having the most floors lighted up at night along with Summit, Enterprise and RCBC. But since most tenants of RCBC and Summit are BPOs, these two are more lighted up beyond 9 pm.

francis
what's BPO's?

i noticed that a lot of the buildings are lighted up at night when i visited compare to 2000. that's a good sign, more offices spaces are being leased and used!

as of today... the Shang seemed to be of the same height of Enterprise 1... i'm not sure if my sight is right.. but it sure looks like they are of same height now.....

it's gonna be lighted... wow... that would look really nice!

BPO = Business Processs Outsourcing

thanks Dvorak!

Ok, I know that BPO = Business Process Outsourcing, so what does that mean? care to elaborate more?
sorry i'm so stupid with these things :colgate:

anything that is brought here because labor is cheaper here.. it could be data encoding, medical transcriptions, animation, technical support, call centers, etc.

check this out :)

http://www.illwillpress.com/tech.html

yes, exactly @ Dvorak. I think my company is also a BPO. work from SW, MI, FR, IN, IT...etc were brought here. These are the types of businesses that caters to foreign clients. So they have to be up and about round the clock. Ours is til midnight. But most of them are 24-7, parang 7-11. And these are the ones that usually have the capital and budget that they can afford to rent grade A office spaces...(not with our case)...and give their employees all the comforts and a very comprehensive compensation package (errr...i think my co. qualifies to that)...there was a boom of BPOs in the last 3 years so most office towers that were just built in 2001 and beyond were the ones who enjoy high occupancy rate of these BPOs.
These include:

PB Com - less than 10 floors of its 53 floors are NOT lighted up every night. And about 20 floors are still lighted up beyond 12 midnight. With the coming of HSBC Customer Care Center, plus expansion of E-telecare, plus dozen of others...the whole tower is now almost full.

Summit - almost all 37 floors get lighted up every night. And only about 5 floors are not lighted up beyond midnight. It has Sykes, Convergys and People Support Call Centers and Hewlett-Packard-Compaq.

RCBC - since this is a PEZA certified IT Zone, it attracted so much BPOs (remember the benefits of being into IT zones?) And now, tower 2 is almost full considering that these Towers are relatively new...and expensive too. Tower 1 is also almost full
. It has a lot of BPO tenants inlcuding hi-caliber non-BPO tenants like the AUS and Canadian Embassies, Caltex, United Nations, HSBC, etc.

Enterprise - It has received PEZA accreditation recently. And if im not mistaken, it only has 2 contact center tenants. But it's one of makati's office address that has equally hi-caliber non-BPO tenants, like Sunlife,Pru-life UK Insurance Philipp Morris, Punongbayan Law Office, Sg Embassy, HSBC, etc. so all floors are lighted up at sundown but only 2 or 3 beyond midnight.

GT Tower - I believe this received PEZA accreditation as an IT bldg (different from IT zone) as well. And when i visited the building last saturday, it indeed seem like about 3/4 of the floors are occupied. Its tenatns include Toshiba, Accenture (who occupies several floors), McCann, what else? Metrobank of course, Aus and NZ Banking Group, Dupont, etc. there are a lot more. I forgot them. Sorry.

PhilamLife - it enjoys an almost 100% occupancy rate, with mostly american companies, I dunno why. Probably bec of the name. All floors are virtually lighted up at night, and since it has floor to ceiling clear curtain wall, it seems to be flooded with light when seen from a distance.

Burgundy and ExportPlaza - these towers are gradually gaining some tenants. I could see the upper most floors of these two lighted up at late night. These are probably BPO tenants.

Citibank Tower - of course this is the tower that im mostly familiar with. It also has well-known tenants. There is only one call center in the higher tower and probably 2 in the older one. Sample of tenants include - General Motors, McDonalds (the office, not the eatery), Japan Bank for Intl Cooperation (JBIC), Citibank of course, Errr...Korean Exchange Bank, Siguion-Reyna Law office, Del Monte, Cargill, Monsanto, Fuji Bank, American Chamber of Commerce, Boehringer Pharma (the maker of Pharmaton, Bisolvon, etc), Romulo Mabanta Buenaventura Sayoc & De Los Angeles Law Office, Phil Geothermal Cor...etc. tama na. pagod na ako mag isip. :D
and it's very off the topic na.

RCBC Plaza - according to my friend @ Colliers.. they're just 65% occupied now. It is becoming a high risk building as a lot of embassies are moving there. The embassies at BPI Buendia are transferring there too. The joke nga eh.. sama sama na sila don.. so isang bomb lang.. sama sama na rin sila.. kaya a lot of tenants are complaining and thinking of transferring out of RCBC.

oh, that'd be sad. that can be the case.
Brit embassy is still at Locsin Bldg, i guess.
Dvorak, i think your figure from Colliers is taken late last year or Q1 of this year. UN and Caltex just moved in recently.

that figure was given to me just last month..

ok. but that was the same figure ive read from their site q1 of this year. ill check it again next time. :D

wow heaps of tenants sa Citibank, even though it is a fairly small building..... they should think of moving out :D hehe joke, i dunno shit about these things. :lol:

i think there's a prestige in its name -"citibank" an international bank. most payments of international transactions are done thru citibanks all over the globe. i noticed that in the invoices that we handle.

Diba may Citibank din sa Eastwood?

Wow...Comprehensive stuff. you should have posted it in MM proposals and u/c thread, though. I havent read everything, but i will now.

yeah there is @thomasian. i dunno what it's function there is though. i guess it's IT-related

there's Citibank Square in Eastwood. This building, as the name implies is very much like a square.

there's another Shang Tower on the drawing board after this one.

there's another Shang Tower on the drawing board after this one.

really? any details, locations, will it be a twin?

cheers

wow. that's really great news.

I don't care whether its a twin or not, as long as it would be really tall then that would be fine.

I don't think there's space for a neighboring twin. so i guess it will be just related by name... maybe design... :?

Is That Shang Grand Any Relation With Shangri-la Hotels, I Think Its Own By The Malaysian Billionaire Mr Kwok The Richest Man In Sea, So He Must Be Keen In Investing In More Properties In The Phlippines Coz Currently There Are Three Htls Under The Shangri-la Group, The Shangri-la Makati And Edsa, The One In Mactan-cebu And The Traders Hotel In Roxas Blvd.

Yes, The Shang Grand Tower does have relation with Shangri-la Hotels. It is partly owned by Kuok with some Philippine partners.

And really another tower? I agree with renell, it cannot be a twin next to it since there is no space. But maybe another similar building somewhere else in MM. Thats pretty cool, i wonder where it will be.

yeah... another Shang would definitely nice... maybe they'll build it up somewhere in the Ortigas Center... near its mall..

how tall would Shang be? a while ago I went to Philamlife Bldg via the walkway and thru Enterprise... I noticed the floor numbers (1-31) on the Shang... and counted the floors from the 31st floor and they are now on the 41st floor.... and as of now I guess that it is as tall as the BSA Tower beside it less the pyramid... :D

well the Shang and BSA Makati aren't side by side, so you can't really compared them ;) Enterprise Tower I and The Shang is much better comparison. i thought it was already as tall as Enteprise sr.?

well... from afar... from SM Makati.. they seem to be of same height already (less the pyramid)... and Shang is taller than Enterprise..

BSA Makati is 154m. with or without the pyramid.. i dunno.. and Enterprise I is 172m, so i'm a bit confused to what you're saying:D

Ok, let's clear things up once and for all...:D

- Shang is now on the 38th - 41st level of construction.
- It's now way ahead of Enterprise Tower 2 in terms of height. Five more floors and it will be at par with Tower 1 in height. Without the pyramid, Shang would be a little taller than BSA. With Shang's trapezoidal top, it would definitely be taller than both BSA and Enterprise Tower 1.

ok.. that's what I meant...:D

I'm just saying that at current construction state... if BSA has no pyramid on top of it.. Shang and BSA is of almost same height...:D

Cool.:okay:

thanks for clearing it up guys :D i wasnt in the mathematical and thinking mood at the time of those other posts ;)

if it is around BSA Makati's height, we can definately rule out this one as being 200m. We had thought it would be, but pau's sightings clears this.

thanks for clearing it up guys :D i wasnt in the mathematical and thinking mood at the time of those other posts ;)

if it is around BSA Makati's height, we can definately rule out this one as being 200m. We had thought it would be, but pau's sightings clears this.


some updated observations:

Construction is now about 3 or 4 levels above the floor where the floor area gets smaller. you know what i mean right?
refer to the photo again and notice the level that im referring to. :D
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/p1d9ebbab0463a774448d935f5567dc19/f944832a.jpg
and from the looks of it, it seems like it hasn't reached the topmost liveable floor yet. and if you will add up the trapezoidal top (what is this called anyway?), that would definitely outdo Enterprise Tower 1 in terms of height. :bleh: :banana: :cucumber:
and that's soooo cool!!! December is the target completion. Or was that top off?

Probably top-off...but construction has been quite speedy and efficient.

I think it was December 2005 the handover date. so this year's December could indeed be top-off.

One whole year to do the interior and final construction work? the interior must be really detailed and grand then.

also to fit the windows too. a lot of exterior work to do even after it is topped off

Oh.. i was about to post an update on this building based on my day-to-day observation of it... I'm trying to get a chance to take a picture of it...but wasn't able to... anyways.. I'll try to take one within the week to give you guys a clearer picture of how the top looks now....

cool :cool: wouldn't mind looking at the all day long... in the shade of course:D

is a bit hard to find a location to take pics that would give an equal footing to Enterprise and Shang. Key positions would always an unfair comparison. If you're at MRT Buendia, chances are...Shang would be taller. Ryan's condo could probably give us a par comparison of these two. But im pretty sure Shang would be taller. Who knows, it might surpass Philamlife's height. :D

Will Shang be taller than OLP?

yes, definitely.

taken this morning...

view from corner of Paseo de Roxas and Pasay Road, just across the Coronado Lanes
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid147/pd3dcd1d09a36393144ea2f468b602085/f62b2862.jpg

view from Greenbelt 2 Parking lot behind Max's Restaurant
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid147/peca018c81c9bd4f3b22d0550710924e2/f62b284f.jpg

view from Park Square 1, across SM Makati..
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid147/pd4233d0280bf45852120cfb88682e0b4/f62b2843.jpg

Wow, it looks very massive in the first pic.

you can see at the last pix at the top part... the construction is starting to shrink.. the outer pillars stopped... it only shows that the roof is nearing its construction

i still cant believe how massive this building is!:D

you can see at the last pix at the top part... the construction is starting to shrink.. the outer pillars stopped... it only shows that the roof is nearing its construction

probably 3 - 5 more floors.

I counted it and they are on third floor from where it began the shrink

the roof as in the trapezium one? :?

btw OLP is only 150m. Francis & I have estimated this one to be around Enterprise Tower I's height. or was it? :D

more than that Renell. Hopefully, it would surpass the 200m mark.

more than that Renell. Hopefully, it would surpass the 200m mark.

....well it has been hovering everywhere hasn't it? we said it would be 180m, then 200m, then back to 170m....:? or is that me?

so what floor is this now :?

who is the architect and general contractor of the shang grand tower?

This is how the Shang looks like as of this morning...:D

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid150/p8a149c71609132366a461941b1426fce/f5ed2f0b.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid150/p8440a40af58df73932a3e84365babf27/f5ed66aa.jpg

rmn
the architect is recio and casas, i dont know who is the contractor.

pau
wow, it's tall! what time did you shot these photos, i notice that a lot of the buildings still have theor lights on, especially pbcom tower and philamlife building.

I took the first photo around 5:45pm which is still a few minutes before sunset... so its quite bright pa.... the second one was 8am in the morning the next day on my way to office...

see how close Shang is from the tip of BSA, and I guess Shang will still have 3-5 floors more before it topping off...

I'm guessing it's in the 40's now... it looks like its about to reach the part where it goes to the trapezoidal part

Now that i think about it...i dont think it will reach 200m:(

I'm guessing it's around a 5m difference between itself and big Enterprise

Here's a close up of the top part of Shang Grand.

http://www.geocities.com/ofngol/sg.jpg

There are 5 floors starting from the part where the building narrows and the trapezoidal top is almost like 3 floors high.

they are building that 4th level from the part it narrows.. so it means that there would maybe about 4 floors more right?.... nice....

very fancy and detailed...

yes, very nice with an Oriental touch

READ FROM ONE NEWSPAPER THAT THE KUOKS have committed to speed up the delivery of their "seven star" Shang Grand Tower condominium in Legaspi Village in July, instead of December 2005 as had been announced.