soon is 10years after Rabin's killing!
this sad day for all Israel and i think we must do banner for this day!

someone can help?

its not a sad day for me, I must say. I think an assasination is sad, but what Rabin did has inflicted death to over 2000 israelis since oslo "peace" accords, and has brought suicide bombs, bombers and rockets into israel..

Im sorry, but I cant forgive or forget his corruption, his abuse of power and tongue, his drinking problems, his stupid peace deals with jordan and the terrorist arafat and the fact he made us accept the partition of our homeland, which is absurd.
his corruption should have at least prevented him from ever running again to p.m and it was part of the message of today that certain degrees of coruption are acceptible or can be forgiven.

the way they are glorifying him, is even more absurd. and I dont care for yigal amir, they should have hanged him like they should hang palestinian terrorists instead of keeping them in jail and teaching them hebrew with my taxpayer money. both these kind of scum are criminals in the name of religioun, so we should do them a favour and send them as soon as possible to heaven or hell..
I dont understand why he is alive any more than I understand why we should be forced to celebrate rabin festival..

its not a sad day for me, I must say. I think an assasination is sad, but what Rabin did has inflicted death to over 2000 israelis since oslo "peace" accords, and has brought suicide bombs, bombers and rockets into israel..

Im sorry, but I cant forgive or forget his corruption, his abuse of power and tongue, his drinking problems, his stupid peace deals with jordan and the terrorist arafat and the fact he made us accept the partition of our homeland, which is absurd.
his corruption should have at least prevented him from ever running again to p.m and it was part of the message of today that certain degrees of coruption are acceptible or can be forgiven.

the way they are glorifying him, is even more absurd. and I dont care for yigal amir, they should have hanged him like they should hang palestinian terrorists instead of keeping them in jail and teaching them hebrew with my taxpayer money. both these kind of scum are criminals in the name of religioun, so we should do them a favour and send them as soon as possible to heaven or hell..
I dont understand why he is alive any more than I understand why we should be forced to celebrate rabin festival..


it's a sad day for those who love peace,but you are certainly not one of them

it's a sad day for those who love peace,but you are certainly not one of them

we all want peace, but what rabin did didnt work to achieve it, as we saw from then till today.

we all want peace, but what rabin did didnt work to achieve it, as we saw from then till today.

If he was alive,mayble we could have had peace now

if he was alive, and based on what he said he would do if arafat resorted back to terror, he would have kicked out arafat and his terror gang back to tunisia, and maybe we WOULD have had a chance for peace.. but they are still here and still inciting terror.

it is sad day...
he was great leadr, great man, good man... i thing if he was the prime-minister of israel in thes years everting was look difrent...

and it is good idea to do banner for this day, SCF can do this for us?

זה יראה לעולם שצריך לשמור על הדמקורטיה ב4 עיניים...
מסר למדינות החופשיות

like some of us have said here is not a sad day for me neighter, never like him, and never will, for me is a normal regular day :sleepy:

source u are extreme fundamentalist!

for me Rabin and Hertzl are fathers of Israel!

source u are extreme fundamentalist!

Zohar,thank you for saying what i wanted to tell him

What did source say? He is mostly correct even though I feel he does not give Rabin the respect he earned. Rabin is among the people who really devoted their lives to Israel. He honestly tried to solve our problems but failed. It is not his fault that the terrorists he brought in did not become peace making figures, but it is his fault that he thought they will.

first of all this person is died!he must respect him!

for me Rabin and Hertzl are fathers of Israel!

i dont agree with u...
rabin was very great leadr, I respect him but i dont think that he is "father" of israel...

the only fathers of this country are Hertzl(you write) and David Ben-Gurion...


this my opinion (=

he is son of country;)
but he is one of important people of Israel

I feel that he was very important to Israel when it came to making peace, espeically since he did with King Hussien, plus he even got Yassir Arafat to have a direct conversation with him.

ts not a sad day for me, I must say. I think an assasination is sad, but what Rabin did has inflicted death to over 2000 israelis since oslo "peace" accords, and has brought suicide bombs, bombers and rockets into israel..

Im sorry, but I cant forgive or forget his corruption, his abuse of power and tongue, his drinking problems, his stupid peace deals with jordan and the terrorist arafat and the fact he made us accept the partition of our homeland, which is absurd.
his corruption should have at least prevented him from ever running again to p.m and it was part of the message of today that certain degrees of coruption are acceptible or can be forgiven.

the way they are glorifying him, is even more absurd. and I dont care for yigal amir, they should have hanged him like they should hang palestinian terrorists instead of keeping them in jail and teaching them hebrew with my taxpayer money. both these kind of scum are criminals in the name of religioun, so we should do them a favour and send them as soon as possible to heaven or hell..
I dont understand why he is alive any more than I understand why we should be forced to celebrate rabin festival..

What the hell are you talking about? What corruption? As to the Oslo peace accords, you cannot possible judge him for the war in 2000 - since he's, well, dead. It's not like all of it cannot be stopped - have you thought that maybe he would have acted better when faced with these problems?

As to the Rabin festival, I agree, it's tasteless - and to be honest I think he would disapprove of it, as well.

yes i also agree it must be demonstartion without an concert

First of all, he is dead and I do not think we should disrespect him personally. He certainly tried to accomplish what he thought was correct. People who think he was wrong have valid ideas as well. He misjudged his counterpart and opened a huge problem for Israel. He even armed the Palestinians, and this was a terrible policy decision.

Israel has tried to make a place for peace to happen time and again. Rabin also tried in his way. He did not deserve to be assassinated.

But I am not sad or effected on this day. I do not see him as a great leader. I see him as a great risk taker and the risk turns out was not worth it. Sometimes leaders take great risks. But great leaders of countries are successful in their risks.

what corruption?

should I remind you that oslo peace accord passed in the knesset because rabin BRIBED gonen segev and gave him to be a minister and alex goldfarb which rabin gave him to be deputy minister and mitsubishi..

so what sharon is doing today is because rabin paved the way to corruption in the knesset!!
Oslo accords were passed even more illegitimately than sharons gaza pullout.
both these leaders are corrupt and dont deserve to be celebrated at all for what they did in politics, just the army.


I wont forget rabins corruption that has cuased israel trouble and terror for 10 years now, what he said about at least half this country, the way he bribed politicians and was himself with his wife full of corruption.

should I remind you that oslo peace accord passed in the knesset because rabin BRIBED gonen segev and gave him to be a minister and alex goldfarb which rabin gave him to be deputy minister and mitsubishi..

so what sharon is doing today is because rabin paved the way to corruption in the knesset!!


Are you fucking kidding me? the appointment of people to jobs as a part of politics is a practice that's ancient in Israel - and it's nastier cousin, the appointment of incompetent people, was started by the Likud. this is actually nothing out of the ordinary (though I'd prefer we could do without this) - these positions are political - unlike the positions of directors or employees in government corporations.

Rabin died...yea..its sad..

But look how many Israeli's he let die in israel...
maybe it was Israel's aggression...

something that made me think when i was in Israel and on that Birthright thing..i was on that famous cemetary where rabin was laid to rest as well as golda meir and herzel...and i walked a bit to see the graves of the brave soldiers.

there names on it, and there age. Some of them were my age, some of them were even younger...they died in the line of fire..protecting me, protecting my right to be in Israel...and giving there life.

people like Schnooner, who never been to Israel cannot talk much.
Rabin had a vision..

unfortunately, for Issac, his vision is to see kids his age, come home in a body bag.
Terrorist are scumbags and low-lifes, but lets disengage...

Israel should be a place where we call home and not where we call death and destruction.. Rabin's vision is a legacy and he touched so many people and was someone who didnt want harm, but wanted good.

We cannot simply control land. We should have our land and let them worry about there own land... We should concentrate on the 80% we got and not the 20%, we may get 10% of the 20%, but still...let us propser, let us grow..lets be part of the world community and lets make Israel a place to sprout..

Negev and galile needs jews, not Gaza and Yehuda Shamron...
we need to have a place where we can finally stop formatting our borders so our enemies will think its validated to erase it (e.g Iran)

One says that Rabin caved in before arab terrorism, other says that rabin in some sort of unscrupulous conquering general. :lol: :lol:

Poll: 10 years after Rabin, new assassination seen likely


Most Israelis believe that a political murder is very likely in Israel, according to a recent survey. The public also rates Yitzhak Rabin as Israel's best prime minister.

The Democracy Index 2005 survey, conducted by the Israel Democracy Institute (IDI), found that 84 percent of Israelis believe that a political murder could occur again, in the wake of the disengagement plan.

The survey, which is conducted every year under the supervision of Professor Asher Arian, will be presented today in a gathering sponsored by the state's president. This year's survey, based on telephone interviews with some 2,000 people, focused on the 10th anniversary of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin's assassination.

Yitzhak Rabin's image remains highly positive with the public, according to the survey - 79 percent regard Rabin as a person of substance who preferred the state's good to his party's interests. A similar majority sees him as a strong, trustworthy leader who was capable of bringing peace.

The public placed Rabin at the top of the list of Israeli prime ministers in terms of performance. Rabin received 30 percent, Menachem Begin came second with 22 percent and David Ben-Gurion followed with 18 percent.

Compared to last year's Democracy Index, this year's survey indicates that the number of Israelis who feel proud of being Israeli citizens has increased, despite the public controversy over the disengagement plan.

Some 83 percent said they were proud, 4 percent more than last year; 89 percent said they were interested in continuing to live in Israel in the long term, also more than last year.

The index also indicates an improvement regarding Jewish-Arab relations. More people - 50 percent - object to the government encouraging Arabs to migrate from Israel, compared to 41 percent last year.

The number of people who believe that Jewish-Arab relations are good has decreased from 15 percent last year to 11 percent this year.

Olmert: Oslo process led to correct borders

Deputy PM at Rabin memorial: Oslo partly justified; Dozens of events slated for anniversary of PM murder.

Deputy Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Thursday at a memorial for assassinated Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin that "From the distance of time and perspective, Yitzhak Rabin's Oslo Agreement brought on a process of disillusionment by the Israel public and the formation of a more realistic, sober and balanced perception of the moves Israel has to make."

At a convention held at Kibbutz Ma'aleh Hachamisha, Olmert added that if it were not for the Oslo process, the timetable that led to the disengagement from the Gaza Strip and the northern West Bank would have been different. "The Oslo agreement had its weaknesses but it was also justified. There is no doubt that it forced Israeli society to self examination that lead to the conclusion that Israel must return to its correct borders and that it should be a Jewish and democratic state," Olmert said.

He added that Rabin took action so that Jerusalem and the Temple Mount would remain in Israeli hands under any diplomatic circumstance, and would have continued to do so had he been alive today. "That is part of the political testimony Rabin left us,? Olmert said.



Events marking the 10th anniversary of Yitzhak Rabin's assassination began Thursday morning with the lighting of the "Yitzhak Candle" at the president's residence.

Dalia Rabin, the late prime minister's daughter and chair of the Rabin Center, said: "Lighting the Yitzhak Candle takes us back to the days of `the candle kids,' who stood in the square in shock and sought answers; the answers must be provided by Israeli society to the future generations, and that is what the Rabin Center's activity is about."

Dozens of private and public events are scheduled to take place around the country. There will be some duplication in events because of the disparity between the date of the murder according to the Gregorian calendar, which falls this year on Friday, and the Hebrew calendar, as well as to accommodate the visit to Israel by former U.S. president Bill Clinton.

Family members alone will assemble Friday at Rabin's grave on Mount Herzl. The state memorial service will take place on Monday.

The high point will be a commemorative assembly next Saturday at Rabin Square, at which Clinton will speak. Other definite speakers include Shimon Peres and Rabin's grandson, Yonatan Ben-Artzi.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon will not attend the assembly, reportedly because of the security measure his presence would require.

Another key event will be the dedication of the new Rabin Center, attended by Bill and Hillary Clinton, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak's adviser Osama El-Baz, and other world leaders

he is son of country;)
but he is one of important people of Israel

sure!

I think if someone took care of Olmert no one would shed tears..
He's scum.