Do you want Quebec to leave Canada? Why or Why not.

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No!!! Go away!!!! We don't want you here!!!

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Quebec should never separate...period...this is Canada...not Yugoslavia...(no offence to Former Yugoslavians)

man jaye, how old are you?

you started this poll right after you got the shaft in a thread about Montreal highways.

take a break from the itraw3b.

No, Quebec is part of my Canada.

Opps, I clicked the wrong one! I don't want Quebec to leave, but thats not what i voted...

Absolutely not. Canada is one and indivisible.

Quebec is Canada, and Canada is Quebec. We are who we are today, as a nation and country because of Quebec. It pains my heart to think of Canada without Quebec...

Canada without Quebec isnt Canada IMO. Frankly if it ever happened i'd just prefer that we split the whole country up. The worst part is that we can never have any closure on the issue, the separatists will just keep holding referundums until they get the answer they want to hear.

maybe what should be done is if they loose another ref. they should not be allowed to have another.

Canada without Quebec isnt Canada IMO. Frankly if it ever happened i'd just prefer that we split the whole country up. The worst part is that we can never have any closure on the issue, the separatists will just keep holding referundums until they get the answer they want to hear.


They won't have it that easy though. 50% plus a vote won't give them credibility enough to slplit up a country. Just as they fight hard to divide, those of us who uphold federalist and liberal ideals in Quebec won't give up. Ever!

As much as I wouldn't want a part of Canada to be split, in the interest of Ontario and Toronto not being robbed blind of our tax money, I'd say good riddance. They'd have to come back anyways, but at least it would teach them a lesson.

It'll never happen of course, and they'll never seriously want to split, since there's no money is actually splitting off. There is money, however, in threatening to secede.

The only people you guys are funding are the maritimes, manitoba and the territories.

Lets not open this debate, because the numbers are out there to prove that Quebec is sending as much money as it recieves.

The other big winners are the civil servants in Ottawa.

flat out...no, they should not. it's part of canada no matter what they say.

This thread can only go downhill....

Personally NO.
Although if they were to split, I'd watch with sheer joy for the first 30 days and wait until they came crying back.

No. They have no reason to leave, the whole idea of Quebec seperation is stupid. I love Quebec its a great province and an asset to Canada.

However if they do vote "oui" and seperate I wan't them cut off, there should be no special ties with Canada I think the country of Quebec would not even be one of Canada's allies. Canadians have never treated Quebec badly and we have only encouraged Quebecs unique culture. I would hate for them to leave and I don't think it would be peaceful sinice if it ever passes it would be by just a few percent.

No. I love Montreal way too much! Canada is amazing the way it is. To have cities as diverse as it has... to have Quebec City alongside Calgary, to have Montreal alongside Vancouver (isn't that amazing, to have BOTH these cities??)....this was the vision shared by Trudeau. What can I say? I'm a nationalist with a Canadian flag on my hockey bag.

No.

I think that if Quebec left Canada, other provinces, maybe would think of it Newfoundland?...

I did a poll at school today (Grade Ten Students in History class), and it went like this:

12 wanted Quebec to leave
00 wanted Quebec to remain

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But this was History class, and because we constantly hear over and over again that french canadians didn't want to fight for Canada in the World Wars, that aspect contributed ALOT to people's decisions.

I honestly believe that if they do not want to be part of this country. They shouldn't be forced... Like we like Quebec in this country, but just to think that they are even considering a referendum* hurts my own Canadian pride. So I'm saying.... Quebec city and MTL are great, along with the rest of Quebec, but for them to actually hold another referendum* (the third), means that they wont stop until the get thier* way.

After they give back Rupert's Land, I would let them leave, why hold thier* government hostage.

P.S. I'll do a poll in Science next time :D.

No. I love Montreal way too much! Canada is amazing the way it is. To have cities as diverse as it has... to have Quebec City alongside Calgary, to have Montreal alongside Vancouver (isn't that amazing, to have BOTH these cities??)....this was the vision shared by Trudeau. What can I say? I'm a nationalist with a Canadian flag on my hockey bag.


I agree about the cities. The big 3, Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver are all extremely unique from one another, thrown in Quebec City, Calgary, Ottawa, Halifax, etc....it's just, wow. Mountains, praries, oceans, lakes, french, english, new, old, a great Canadian city is there. Compared to population no country can touch Canada's cities, hell if you take population out there is still few that can compete.

I want them to behave, and I want them to stop lying about Canada. Like they don't benefit from equalization. Of course the Federal Government is costing us all (should it be free?), but if Quebec were to separate, they would have to greatly expand their government and it would cost them much more.

I did a poll at school today (Grade Ten Students in History class),


Ahhhh! That's why you're like that!!!

Hell no....I don't want to cross a border to get into the belle province.

But this was History class, and because we constantly hear over and over again that french canadians didn't want to fight for Canada in the World Wars, that aspect contributed ALOT to people's decisions.



If that's what you're taught in class, no wonder you have zero knowledge about Quebec. Judging from your post about Montreal highways, I doubt you can even find Montreal on a map. So sad there's so much ignorance about Quebec west of Ottawa. Speaking as a Quebecer who went to school in Ontario (university, not high school), I'd say there's no chance English and French Canada would ever reconcile... except maybe if the Americans decide to invade.

Ahhhh! That's why you're like that!!!
There are alot of young people at this site. Agism is as bad as any other ism...

Let's talk about the ignorance coming out of Quebec. Like they think they would be included in NAFTA. They would not be since all three signatories have to agree on any new member. Obviously, the US would insist that Quebec drop any and all protectionism for it's language/culture (it's all just business to the US) and get rid of its marketing boards, etc. Their language would quickly come under more pressure than they could ever have imagined. LOL. Not to mention how they would be abandoning other Francophones in the ROC.

*yawn* that's all you have to say? I was actually hoping someone would give me some specific examples of how English Canadians had treated French Canadians with respect in the past. I really hate it when English Canada telling us that Canada is all about money. I have strong attachments to Ontario, and let me tell you this, it really saddens me when the only persuasive case about Quebec staying in Canada is the threat that we would lose our jobs.

I think the ones who truly want out of OUR Canada can go and live on the island that us and Green Land are fighting over . We could call it the Island of " We really should have shut up " . And they can wear shirts that say " I tried to split up the greatest nation on earth and all I got was a lousy Island " .

What you call a *yawn*, I consider putting on a brave face.

Of course Canada is not simply about money, but when Quebeckers make foolish statements about how they would have more money after they become a new country, then the response is naturally doing to center around finances. Doesn't that seem logical enough for you? After all, you were the one to complain about ignorance.

I think Canadians in the ROC respect Quebec's influence in keeping Canada out of the war in Iraq - for one example. Thanks!! :cheers:

Of course not! There are all sorts of argument why Quebecers would better off if we had our own country, and English Canada only knows how to counter the part about finances. Isn't it sad when the separatists talk about vision for a new country, how Quebec can be a peaceful and green and progressive society, all Canada can come up with is money to bribe us for a few more years?

Sorry I didn't see your edit before I posted the reply. Good example, I really appreciate it. I honestly think the federalist camp can come up with something really positive, it's just some politicians are too lazy to think harder, and somehow everyone in English Canada just follow their arguments because they don't bother to know Quebec better.

Isn't it sad that Quebec has become a "nation" of blackmailers? Eg. R. Bourassa's concept of "profitable Federalism".

Quebec separatists have nothing more to offer their sheep than a romantic dream. An imaginary utopia hardly amounts to "all sorts of arguments". LOL. The separatists have never come up with anything that can rationally be construed as a cogent argument - all they have are unrealistic dreams and lies.

As I already stated, we appreciate some of the influence that Quebec has had on Federal policy, such as helping to keep the country out of the war in Iraq.

This thread can only go downhill....

Oh come on, how many times have you seen a Quebec separitism thread go downhill? Never (sarcasm)

Let's just stick to debating how much better the Leafs are then Habs! :jk:

Just a question.

If Quebec held anouther vote on seperation what percentage of the population would have to vote "oui"? I think 50%+1 is much to low. Imagin only half the citizens supported Quebec being independant, there would almost cirtainly be a civil war.

I would hate to see Quebec become a dangerous second world country.

*yawn* that's all you have to say? I was actually hoping someone would give me some specific examples of how English Canadians had treated French Canadians with respect in the past. I really hate it when English Canada telling us that Canada is all about money. I have strong attachments to Ontario, and let me tell you this, it really saddens me when the only persuasive case about Quebec staying in Canada is the threat that we would lose our jobs.

Hey, don't worry, it goes both ways. Look, for once I'd like to go to Ville de Quebec without generally snarky looks and rude comments made at me because I am not francophone.

Oh come on, how many times have you seen a Quebec separitism thread go downhill? Never (sarcasm)

Let's just stick to debating how much better the Leafs are then Habs! :jk:

HAHAHA Leaf SUCK!!!!!!!

Stanley Cup will be Ottawa VS Vancouver and Vancouver will win on game 4.

Ahhhh! That's why you're like that!!!


hahahahaha man, thats shit is too funny.

where's the ignore option?!?!?!

Please keep this debate civil and not into a bashfest. The thread is already on life-support.

Of course not! There are all sorts of argument why Quebecers would better off if we had our own country, and English Canada only knows how to counter the part about finances. Isn't it sad when the separatists talk about vision for a new country, how Quebec can be a peaceful and green and progressive society, all Canada can come up with is money to bribe us for a few more years?

Sorry I didn't see your edit before I posted the reply. Good example, I really appreciate it. I honestly think the federalist camp can come up with something really positive, it's just some politicians are too lazy to think harder, and somehow everyone in English Canada just follow their arguments because they don't bother to know Quebec better.

a peaceful, green and progressive society... sounds like Canada to me.

A seperatist has the upper hand over any federalist, because their arguement is speculative, romantic, and visionary. I'll admit the idea of Quebec as a nation is intriguing.

What can Federalists say? Well, if I were a politician, I'd focus on our combined rich heritage as a nation. It's obvious that Federalists have failed Canada to date... just look at the sponsorship scandal. Even forget the scandal part, it was a pretty lame idea to begin with. Seperatism can only be defeated with ideas, passion, and leadership, not by throwing money at the problem.

Forget politicians, both English and French... both are desperate and will say basically anything.

hahahahaha man, thats shit is too funny.

where's the ignore option?!?!?!
:rant: :speech:, like seriously. You guys reply to a perfectly fine post with remarks like this, and then use agism to justify your ignorence. Because in one thread I mistook Montreal the City, for Montreal the area? Who is the real ignorent one?

I sit here, at this city to learn more about cities and urban planning, and you guys just ruin that. I've noticed that it's nobody else except for the MTL'ers. You guys need to drop it now because, your the only ones looking like fools, trying to gang up on one person for a few mislead posts.

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hahahahaha man, thats shit is too funny.

where's the ignore option?!?!?!

It's on the extreme bottom-left of your screen, click "start", then click "turn off computer".

LMAO! :cheers: