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r93k401
October 2nd, 2007, 05:25 PM
^^ Double decked jeepneys!? Yikes! :runaway:










(But on that note, why not double decked tricycles too?) :lol:

kaya sagap mo naman lahat ng usok, alikabok, amoy at iba pang polusyon ng kamaynilaan!!! :nuts: :nuts:

dinabaw
October 3rd, 2007, 04:29 AM
I've never seen one in my whole life.

Sakay sa top load ng jeep, na subukan ko na. hehehe

i just remember kaya pala taplud (tapaludo?) ang tawag sa taas ng jeep kasi top load :lol: thanks amigo

dinabaw
October 3rd, 2007, 04:32 AM
^^ No I'm serious. The drivers are the problem, not the vehicle. I wish they had a seminar every month on their driving skills.

and i think the brit have a seminar how to drive a double decker and if you can't drive in there slick road you can't pass as a double deck bus driver :lol:

IAMME
October 3rd, 2007, 05:02 AM
The first double-decker bus company was in pre-war Iloilo. They even issued their own coins. If not for the spaghetti wires today, I'd think it's good to have them back considering our traffic volume.

GearX
October 3rd, 2007, 05:14 AM
about same size as double-decker...:lol:
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x287/GearX_2007/Overloaded.jpg

eto pa...opposite views lang...:lol:
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x287/GearX_2007/towing.jpg

most famous double-decker...:lol:
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x287/GearX_2007/100349.jpg

here's a triple-decker...sandwhich nga lang...:lol:
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x287/GearX_2007/stagedeli.jpg

and lastly....another decker...ay! Becker pala....:lol:
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x287/GearX_2007/986938_tennis.jpg

Enjoy your day!:lol:

amigo32
October 3rd, 2007, 11:47 AM
parang tuwang -tuwa pa yung mga nasa isuzu.



i just remember kaya pala taplud (tapaludo?) ang tawag sa taas ng jeep kasi top load :lol: thanks amigo


hehehe, oo nga ano.

TJ
October 3rd, 2007, 11:57 AM
maganda yan... 1 2xdeck bus = 2 buses...

maganda din sana kun 2xdeck jeepney.. imagine if all jeep and bus are double deck we can increase the capacity of our public transport by 50% without adding new vehicles which means no increase in traffic as the commuter numbers increase.

pede kaya 3 deck??

Raven83
October 4th, 2007, 05:55 AM
haha sa sobrang curiosity ko sa King Long bus na yan, sinundan ko yung King Long bus na nakita sa Alabang Zapote Road,mukhang maganda nga yung interior tapos class pa yung lighting....kaya lang parang hindi pa sila ganun kadami. Parang hindi ko yata kaya maghintay sa kalye ng matagal para makasakay lang niyan..saan ba maraming king long?

Lito
October 4th, 2007, 06:14 AM
sa kanto ng Buendia at Roxas Blvd.

Madami doon almost 15 units ang bumibyahe na kinglong going to EDSA

Lito
October 4th, 2007, 06:15 AM
actually a monorail that rounds the MCBD and connects to BGC and goes around it would be better..:D probably start from Ayala MRT station strait to McKinley to Market Market to St. Lukes to Kalayaan Exit to Buendia, strait to Buendia, turn to Ayala and end in ayala MRT again.. :D

pag nagkatotoo ito.. ganda tingnan parang may roller coaster sa paligid ng EDSA at Fort Bonifacio.

RhapsodyBrat
October 4th, 2007, 06:35 AM
hi you guys...tanong ko lang, does the Fort Bus stop at Market! Market!? and ano ang to-and-from routes niya? gusto ko kasing pumunta dun, pero hindi ko alam kung tumitigil yung bus sa Ayala and i don't want to go all the way to Guadalupe to get a jeep kung mas malapit naman sa Ayala.

maybe someone can help us and post the routes and/or bus stops so we can have a sort-of commuters' guide.

thanks!

Lito
October 4th, 2007, 07:43 AM
from Mc Kinley Rd. (near Shell Station) dyan mag start ang byahe ng bus going to The Fort. tapos ang end ng route nito ay sa terminal ng Market Market sa bandang likuran ng food area, malapit na sa C5.

pau_p1
October 4th, 2007, 11:10 AM
they used to have only one route for the Fort Bus... but now they seemed to have change the route since HSBC and Net Cube is now occupied.... but yes still the starting point is near the Shell station in EDSA/McKinley and the end-terminus is at the Market!Market!...

pau_p1
October 4th, 2007, 11:15 AM
ano yun Night Bus sa Harry Potter!... heheheh

I don't think it's possible on our roads to have 3 decks due to height restrictions on roads.... I believe that most flyovers, and overpasses on EDSA at least can only fit a double decker.... plus the taller the bus is the more chances that it topples down... specially that most bus drivers zigzags EDSA at a high speed...

gen1
October 4th, 2007, 12:08 PM
we used to have that in the late 70's to early 80's. biyaheng edsa. british leyland ang may gawa, operated by the government run metro-manila transit. automatic transmission, tapos dalawa ang kondoktura.

pangit gamitin sa edsa. mabagal ang takbo kasi mabuway ang mataas na bus. tapos ang tagal makababa sa bus stop ng pasaherong nang-gagaling sa 2nd level. karamihan pa ng pasahero sa taas umuupo dahil sa view.

less than half a dozen times ko sinakyan. after the novelty wore off, iniwasan ko nang sakyan dahil mabagal.

metrosuburban
October 5th, 2007, 02:05 AM
puro jeeb, fx, bus!! wala man lang monorail, subway or tram like in Leipzig... wala namang matinong infra...

RhapsodyBrat
October 5th, 2007, 08:54 PM
^^ salamat sa info! :) paano naman yung fare? magkano and paano ang bayaran (card, pay before you get on the bus, etc.)?

GearX
October 9th, 2007, 11:55 AM
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x287/GearX_2007/81306416.jpg

iloilocitykid
October 9th, 2007, 12:30 PM
^^ This is really fun. It's a bit dangerous but it's worth the trip. :lol:

Rence
October 9th, 2007, 04:10 PM
Actually there are still double decker bus plying the Roxas Boulevard areas until early 2000 however the route is not profitable as it should be ...

allan_dude
October 30th, 2007, 02:36 AM
FITCOR to distribute 3-wheeled LPG-powered vehicles in RP

Manila Bulletin (http://www.mb.com.ph/BSNS20071030107241.html)

Fleur-de-lis International Trading Corporation (FITCOR), a newly established company with good connections in the Philippines, announced that it had secured an exclusive distributorship to sell Trident Tricars, a line of 3-wheeled cars powered by liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) in the Philippines.

"We believe the introduction of Trident LPG powered vehicles in the Philippines will be a major contribution to the country’s public transport sector," FITCOR’s President & COO Salvie Einosas said. "The Trident Sports Series, with its streamlined and modern design, presents itself as the best alternative to the tricycle, the country’s most popular mode of transport consisting of a motorcycle with a side-car attached to it," Einosas added.

"University of the Philippines studies showed that air pollution produced by tricycle emissions are equivalent to that of 10 to 15 cars. The LPG powered Trident tricars, on the other hand, are clean-burning, quiet and economical to operate, as well as inexpensive. Small and maneuverable, Tricars are also ideal for delivery fleets, messenger services or similar uses. The innovative designs of its other models answer specific market needs and requirements," Einosas further said.

Trident Tricars are produced in China and are branded exclusively for export as Trident O-Zone vehicles. These vehicles are powered by 250 to 1000 CC engines with automatic transmissions, power windows CD players and rear hatch back doors. Designed for use in China’s congested urban and suburban areas the Trident has seen market success in China by filling a unique niche between the motorcycle and the traditional car.

LPG as a vehicle fuel is gaining rapid acceptance worldwide. Other countries are offering incentives for conversion to LPG which is less expensive than gasoline and produces far fewer emissions. The trend towards LPG is expected to accelerate as oil prices increase and air pollution becomes a global concern.

FITCOR intends to sell the Trident vehicles within Metro Manila on a direct basis and through sub-distributors in other parts of the country. Currently FITCOR is seeking distribution partners to accelerate growth.

FITCOR is a newly created company in the Philippines mainly for the purpose of importing and distributing alternative fuel vehicles in the country. Aside from the apparent economic benefits this will offer, FITCOR assumes its share in promoting a cleaner air and protecting the environment.

It positions itself strategically to take the lead in introducing clean technology products in the country and delivering the benefits of using low emission vehicles to the Filipino people, the Philippine economy and the global environment. It’s acquisition of an exclusive nationwide dealership rights on the Trident line of 3-wheeled vehicles is an important step towards this end.

FITCOR will play a vanguard role in advocating for the adoption of clean technology vehicles in the public transport sector, and the formation of a multi-sector partnership to pursue the attainment of such and slowly broaden its coverage.

http://www.cngpowered.com/images/full1.jpg

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http://www.cngpowered.com/images/full4.jpg

http://www.cngpowered.com/images/full8.jpg

http://www.cngpowered.com/images/full9.jpg

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http://www.cngpowered.com/images/full5.jpg

http://www.cngpowered.com/

Ex!lE
October 30th, 2007, 06:23 AM
the unique tricycles of Pagadian City.

i got this from a friend...:banana::banana:

jollibee pagadian
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/928/image009qg1.jpg

chowking pagadian
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9866/image011vl6.jpg

Poples Plaza
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3553/image017rh4.jpg

mwg12a
October 30th, 2007, 08:03 AM
These are awesome looking cars/tricycles, however they wanted to call these..LOL I wouldn't mind owning one if I live in the Philippines just to get around quickly...

http://www.cngpowered.com/images/full1.jpg

http://www.cngpowered.com/images/full12.jpg

http://www.cngpowered.com/images/full4.jpg

http://www.cngpowered.com/images/full8.jpg

http://www.cngpowered.com/images/full9.jpg

http://www.cngpowered.com/images/full3.jpg

http://www.cngpowered.com/images/full5.jpg

dreamtime07
November 8th, 2007, 11:37 AM
Tricycles are a part of Philippine transportation because it serves the routes from main roads to house. For example, I always ride the LRT and after going down the station, I always ride the tricycle to our home.

I agree that tricycles should not ply the main roads. They should be used only on the tertiary roads of the city to accomodate main road to households transportation.

jaywalker
November 8th, 2007, 02:02 PM
These are awesome looking cars/tricycles, however they wanted to call these..LOL I wouldn't mind owning one if I live in the Philippines just to get around quickly...

http://www.cngpowered.com/images/full5.jpg


So cool!Nasa market na ba ito sa Pinas?Any idea for the unit price?

leechtat
December 1st, 2007, 03:17 AM
10 pesos ang fort bus, wherein a conductor will give you a ticket like normal bus transit systems..

from mckinley rd, stops are:
mckinley cor fifth ave
icon showroom
fort strip
marajo or net one bldg
forbeswood heights
fort stopover
net 2
hsbc
bonifacio high street
serendra
market! market!

7.50 pesos ang jeep papunta ng gate 2 (essensa) to market market, using the route = mckinley rd, 26th drive, mckinley parkway

going to makati, you can ride the ayala washington jeepney for 7.50

taking a cab to go inside BGC is faster from buendia mrt station than getting a cab from the ayala mrt station.

the fort bus nowadays is so congested.. napakahaba ng pila.. i think BGC admin should take a good look on the accessibility issues of BGC.. the best way to go to BGC nowadays is by means of private transpo...

a monorail would be the best option, but we cannot afford it. the pnr will be traversing taguig naman, you can take lawton rd to BGC ata from pnr station...

thomasian
December 2nd, 2007, 05:11 PM
Anyone here who had a sighting of The Fort Bus outside BGC? I saw one infront of SM Centerpoint before.

the fort bus nowadays is so congested.. napakahaba ng pila.. i think BGC admin should take a good look on the accessibility issues of BGC.. the best way to go to BGC nowadays is by means of private transpo...

I think they need to get additional buses, the waiting time can be really long sometimes.

---

You forgot to mention the motorbikes, magkano nga pala pamasahe dun?

leechtat
December 3rd, 2007, 03:36 PM
You forgot to mention the motorbikes, magkano nga pala pamasahe dun?

oo nga pala.. its twenty pesos. its hard to ride it though.. it can be a bit cramped...

if they will have new buses then i suggest they use the guadalupe mrt station area as the terminal.. since in buendia mrt station, there is no more room... it could be beneficial and would address the very long lines in mckinley road extension. also, the people coming from the south will use the ayala fort bus terminal whereas the people from the north will be using the guada one.

alcogoodwin
December 5th, 2007, 04:21 AM
a monorail would be the best option, but we cannot afford it. the pnr will be traversing taguig naman, you can take lawton rd to BGC ata from pnr station...


Monorails seem to often be used as possibilities for commuter transport.
Many years ago we had a choice between a monorail and light rail for Sydney. Despite much complaint we got the monorail and its lane blocking poles and ugly sight.
So many years down the track what happens? We got the far more useful light rail anyway and plans to extend the monorail to the Casino were scrapped instead of that monorail which remains mostly as a tourist attraction than a serious commuter type mode of transport.

Thankfully heavy rail won out over a short lived idea to put a monorail in from Sydney Airport to the city.

At least with light rail you can still used the same trackbed with road vehicles when it runs along the streets. Monorails just entirely block lanes or footpaths and don't seem, at least in my experience, to be able to haule the same amounts of people as a length MRT etc can.

Brad

bustero
December 7th, 2007, 03:58 AM
I was thinking of using a feeder line with the same gauge if possibly lighter track to extend from the buendia Station to the Fort area. It would actually be more practical to route it through Mckinley to Ayala station but the Nimby's there would make it impossible. Ironically it's a matter of time before the Nimby's suffer the burden of heavy traffic along Mckinley for their shortsightedness.

Anyway if it 's doable then using a one track system on Edsa and the same train (just one car to make it easy to get around but more of it) then that would be good.

If this is not possible then at least increase the bus numbers and put some sort of connector stop with Buendia station, the bus should at least have it's own access lane within the fort and most importantly along EDSA and to the Fort.

narthuril
December 7th, 2007, 05:20 PM
there is another way to go to the fort (crescent park area) from edsa within 5-10 minutes and 10php you just need to do some research... :lol:

thomasian
December 8th, 2007, 06:30 AM
^^ Ano yun? Di na kaya ng research powers ko eh, sirit! :D

ericlucky290
December 9th, 2007, 12:29 AM
Hello,

Paano po ang pagcommute mula Glorietta papuntang market-market a gamit ang fort bus?

Thanks

sugarboy
December 9th, 2007, 12:36 AM
McKinley Road is really crowded these days. When going to the Makati CBD from the Fort, I now opt to take the Kalayaan Flyover into Buendia and vice versa. There are just too many stops in between that short stretch of McKinley as aided by the security guards of Forbes Park, Manila Polo Club, etc.

nayki
December 9th, 2007, 03:36 AM
Madaming humps sa loob ng Forbes park along McKinley Road. My humps my humps my humps:lol:

JustHorace
December 9th, 2007, 04:37 AM
Hello,

Paano po ang pagcommute mula Glorietta papuntang market-market a gamit ang fort bus?

Thanks

You have to walk from Glorietta to EDSA-McKinley corner. The bus terminal is on the Dasma side.

leechtat
December 10th, 2007, 05:22 AM
^^ or you can take a 7.50 jeepney ride to market! market! it is beside the fort bus terminal/parking lot/whatever...

@bustero.. there will be no avail space for a bus terminal in the buendia mrt station edsa northbound. unless they put it in the bel-air area which is inconvenient since the u-turn slot in buendia manila-bound to kalayaan flyover is ways longer; plus the traffic, will add to more irate drivers.

forbes park residents will not agree to a tram track or more buses to traverse McKinley road or the buendia area. its way congested as it is and the road cannot be expanded due to existing mansions.. they pay a lot for this exclusivity you see..

the only other undeveloped access from edsa is the kalayaan to north bonifacio road which still remains like a trip to the moon or a provincial road. i do hope they can make space for a terminal in the guadalupe mrt area since they will be redeveloping it anyway. so why not build a terminal or a place for hop-on-hop-off transit system? or as this thread require, another terminal for the fort bus! this will also ensure the pioneer area or rockwell area of tourists staying in the bgc area with this kind of system. they can also use the ferry boats as well.

metrosuburban
December 11th, 2007, 06:42 PM
McKinley Road is really crowded these days. When going to the Makati CBD from the Fort, I now opt to take the Kalayaan Flyover into Buendia and vice versa. There are just too many stops in between that short stretch of McKinley as aided by the security guards of Forbes Park, Manila Polo Club, etc.

maswerte yung may village pass (uniform to all residents of those elite makati subdivisions), they can take shortcuts to access the village roads

bustero
December 12th, 2007, 04:44 AM
@leechtat, I was thinking that either an above grade one lane bus stop running along edsa for about 200 meters then it would split off again when it turns in to kalayaan.

My thinking is somehow they connect these terminals so that enough (barely) throughput can be acquired for fort boni. Otherwise malabo and future ng boni.

leechtat
December 13th, 2007, 04:11 PM
^^ i agree. let's hope they finalize their plans at least before 2010 or bgc may suffer extreme accessibility and congestion problems..

dessertfox
December 18th, 2007, 05:06 PM
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb141/dessertfox_bucket/untitled.jpg

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/NYTU04711122007-1.htm


Energtek, the Department of Energy of the Philippines and PNOC-EC, to Formally Launch the 'ANG Powered Three-Wheelers' Project:banana:

December 11, 2007: 07:35 AM EST


VALLEY STREAM, N.Y., Dec. 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Energtek Inc. (Energtek) announced today the formal launch date for the conversion project of three-wheel vehicles to natural gas-powered systems in the Republic of the Philippines. The launch, to take place on December 17, 2007, marks a critical step towards the mass implementation of the cleantech technologies developed by Energtek and will provide significant benefits to the Filipino people.

(Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20071211/NYTU047)

The launch is organized in conjunction with the Department of Energy of the Republic of the Philippines and the Philippines National Oil Company Exploration Corporation. The event will take place the first day of the Energy Week planned by the Department of Energy. The Secretary of Energy and the CEO of Energtek will both make formal remarks at the event.

Energtek's technology addresses the two and three wheel vehicles market, which comprises the fastest growing segment of the world automotive market. Most of the vehicles in this segment, estimated at about 200,000,000 units, are in Asia. The conversion to Natural Gas provides significant economic advantages to the vehicles' owners, and at the same time provides significant environmental improvements through the reduction of harmful emissions.

Following the successful completion in the Philippines of the conversion and road-test of an Adsorbed Natural Gas-powered three-wheeler, Energtek has been working with all the relevant entities to create opportunities that will benefit the local population.

Lev Zaidenberg, CEO of Energtek commented "With the introduction of our advanced technology, the large number of owners of three-wheelers will benefit from a significant reduction in transportation expenses, while the country as a whole will enjoy significant environmental improvements."

"The event will be a great opportunity to state our commitment, with the full endorsement of the Filipino government, to introduce and implement our technological solutions, providing significant benefits to the Filipino people on multiple fronts."

Mr. Zaidenberg continued, "In addition, we expect our shareholders to significantly benefit from the projects to be implemented, creating a win-win situation for our shareholders and the Filipino people. We expect the successful conversion of three wheeler vehicles to Adsorbed Natural Gas systems to constitute the first step of the introduction of this technology into the vibrant Natural Gas Vehicle markets. We anticipate strong demand for our technology which provides unique solutions for the huge markets of two and three wheelers. Energtek intends to expand these achievements further into the Asian markets, where the highest concentration of two and three wheelers exists."

About ANG

The Adsorbed Natural Gas technology allows storing Natural Gas under lower pressures than Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) technology, the prevalent technology for Natural Gas Vehicles (NGV). Utilizing ANG technology vastly improves refueling expenses and allows for a more efficient use of the vehicle's space. The lower pressure used by ANG technology allows significant savings in the infrastructure costs of filling stations.

About Energtek

Energtek enables the conversion of two of and three wheelers into natural gas powered vehicles, allowing this much cleaner and cheaper fuel to replace other more expensive and environmentally damaging fueling sources. Energtek has a leading position in these large brand-new markets. Our business addresses the growing NGV industry with a wide range of products, from cylinders and conversion kits for vehicles through infrastructure elements for Natural Gas transportation and filling stations, including the development of pioneering storage systems. Energtek, through its investments and subsidiaries, is creating an international network of synergetic activities in Asia, Europe, America and the Middle East.

Forward-Looking Statements:

This press release contains forward looking statements, including those related to future product plans, which involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties, which together with other factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the anticipated results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. For a discussion of these and other known risks and uncertainties, individuals should refer to Energtek's SEC filings. Energtek does not undertake an obligation to update forward looking statements.



Contact:
IR@Energtek.com


Revolutionary development for our indigenous means of transport. This could probably help reduce also pollution created by 2t types of engines.

tigidig14
December 18th, 2007, 06:57 PM
parang bomba pero neat idea, ecofriendly

GearX
December 19th, 2007, 03:55 AM
pwede ulit i-parking sa Batasan....:lol:

Askal82
December 19th, 2007, 04:49 AM
^^ Tiyak hindi mahahalata yan. Mukhang nakakatakot tingan yung mga gas tanks sa ilalim ng uupuan ng mga pasahero. Parang pwedeng gawing ejector seat gaya ng F16 pag hindi siguro makabayad :lol:

pau_p1
December 19th, 2007, 06:24 AM
hmmm.... magkano naman kaya per unit?

since.. most tricycles are privately owned, this should be affordable enough to totally eradicate the current tricycles that we have...

jrevalde
December 19th, 2007, 09:23 AM
is it safe??? baka sumabog yan pag nabangga ang tricycle

dessertfox
December 19th, 2007, 09:54 AM
is it safe??? baka sumabog yan pag nabangga ang tricycle

Rigid daw ang test analysis, may test pa nga sila na ginamitan mismo nang dinamita at bonfire hindi sumabog ang tanke. Ang sabi nila ay 30 to 70 lang ang bar code nang pressure kaya mababa na kumpara sa CNG na 200. Ang magiging presyo nang fuel ay 24 pesos lang kung sa milage nang gasolina nag pag uusapan so kalahati lang nang gasolina.

Mas maganda na ito dahil yong usok nang tricycle ay grabe na lalo na yong gumagamit nang 2t oil. May sarili pa tayong mina nang natural gas sa Palawan.

dessertfox
December 19th, 2007, 09:58 AM
hmmm.... magkano naman kaya per unit?

since.. most tricycles are privately owned, this should be affordable enough to totally eradicate the current tricycles that we have...

Magandang subukan, ang presyo naman ay ang sa conversion kit mapupunta at pag-mo-modify nang kaha. Motor naman ay pareho din pati body.

dessertfox
December 19th, 2007, 10:03 AM
is it safe??? baka sumabog yan pag nabangga ang tricycle

Heto yong write-ups sa safety;

Safety

Natural gas, as a vehicle fuel, is stored in cylinders constructed of thick-walled, reinforced aluminum, steel or composite materials. These cylinders are manufactured and tested in compliance with strict regulations, and have withstood severe abuse testing under conditions that are more stringent than for tanks designed for storing gasoline. These tests include crash and bonfire testing. To quote a research expert, "If you were introducing gasoline to the market today, you likely couldn't do it."

Natural gas vehicles are subjected to crash tests at speeds of up to 52 miles per hour. The vehicle sustains exceptional damage, while the compressed gas cylinders sustain little or no damage. In vehicles that were totally destroyed in crash tests, the only intact component of the vehicle was the gas cylinder.

Bonfire and dynamite tests subject cylinders to temperatures and pressures exceeding standards requirements. The cylinders have demonstrated an ability to survive both these tests.

Regarding the danger of fire from leaking cylinders, experience to date indicates that such an event is unlikely to occur. With well over 5 million NGVs operating worldwide, there are no reports of fire problems.

It is worth pointing out that natural gas is lighter than air and in the unlikely event of a leak, the gas will quickly dissipate into the surrounding air. (LPG vapors however, are heavier than air and tend to pool near the ground thereby constituting a danger).

Natural gas has a high ignition temperature (about 650° C, compared with about 350° C for gasoline) and a narrow range of flammability (will not ignite at concentrations below about 5 % and above about 15 %).

Natural gas is not toxic or corrosive and will not contaminate ground water. The existing natural gas delivery system has a proven excellent safety record. According to statistics from the U.S. Department of Transportation, the natural gas transmission and distribution system (1.9 million Km of pipes and distribution points) is the safest way to transport energy in the United States.

All this makes NG the safest form of fuel.

NG in its pure form does not smell. However, for safety reasons, scents are mixed with the gas making it possible to notice the presence of gas in the air. These strong-smelling scents are not hazardous. They can be smelled at a concentration of NG in the air that too low to ignite.

jrevalde
December 19th, 2007, 10:14 AM
^^ok thanks, its good to now that its safe. I guess the only problem now is the availability of filling stations for NG, i dont think we have one here in cebu.

dessertfox
December 19th, 2007, 01:56 PM
http://www.green-energy-news.com/arch/nrgs2007/20070138.html


December 18, 2007 – Vol.12 No.39

ADSORBED NATURAL GAS (ANG): EMERGING FUEL STORAGE SOLUTION.

Here’s a quiz to test your green car knowledge. Which is considered the greenest, most environmentally friendly, highway capable car sold by a major manufacturer in the US?

If you thought Toyota Prius you’d be wrong. According to the American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy (ACEEE), as well as the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), it’s actually Honda’s Civic GX NGV, or Natural Gas Vehicle. The EPA has given the car that distinction since 1998 when it was first introduced, at that time to fleets only. (The ACEEE has done the same but only since 2000 when it was first offered to consumers.)

Why the Civic and not the Prius? Greenness is not just about CO2 emissions and fuel economy, it’s also about smog-producing pollutants. As a fuel, natural gas just burns cleaner than gasoline. (Which is why you can boil your potatoes on your gas-fired kitchen range without dying.)

In cars and trucks, noxious pollutants from natural gas are 60-90 percent less than petrol. And there is a greenhouse gas emission benefit as well, natural gas has 30-40 percent less carbon dioxide in its exhaust stream.

So between low smog-producing pollutants and low greenhouse gas emissions, natural gas used in vehicles, mostly in its compressed form - CNG (compressed natural gas) - is pretty green stuff.

If it’s so wonderful, why hasn’t natural gas taken off as a green fuel? For a time, along with propane (aka LPG), it was the darling of the green car community. Then hybrids came along giving better fuel economy than natural gas.


Further, at least for consumers, there are other concerns. Not everyone is enthusiastic about filling a vehicle with pressurized gas which requires slightly more expertise to pump safely than gasoline. From an engineering standpoint, too, there are challenges. The robustly-built pressurized cylinders are hard to squeeze into the confines of an automobile body, There’s a physical limit as how many can be squeezed into the trunk of car, like the Civic.

And there are cost, weight and safety considerations as well for those tanks which hold the gas under high pressure. The list price of a Civic GX NGV is about two thousand more than the Civic hybrid which, in part, may reflect the cost of the CNG storage tanks.

Now there’s an emerging storage technology that should make natural gas aficionados perk up. It’s called Adsorbed Natural Gas (ANG), and it’s surprising simple.

It goes something like this. If you fill a standard high pressure CNG cylinder with nanoporous material such as activated charcoal (the same stuff used in fish tank filters) the cylinder will hold MORE natural gas at high pressure than a tank would hold without being filled with the material.

Or, in more interesting and game-changing scenarios, the standard high pressure tank can hold the SAME amount of natural gas at LESS pressure, making filling the tank much easier, or ANG tanks can be free-shape containers since the pressures are a lot less and the cylindrical shape is not necessary.

To recap the ANG technology, with nanoporous material (that fish tank activated charcoal) more natural gas can be stored at high pressure, the same amount stored at less pressure, and or tanks can be designed with a free form shape.

It’s the last part of story that should perk up ears like a dog listening to a strange noise. Less pressure for adequate storage means high pressure cylinders are no longer needed. A lightly pressurized natural gas tank can look like just about anything and be fitted into the same location as a standard gasoline tank in a car. Tanks can be bigger, have greater volume and hold more gas, thus giving more driving range. Further, the low pressure tanks, being easier to fill make fueling infrastructure less costly. (High pressure pumps are expensive.)

One company working with the technology is Energtek of Valley Stream New York. That company has announced it is working with the Department of Energy of the Republic of the Philippines, along with the Philippines National Oil Company Exploration Corporation, to build an ANG three-wheeler in the hopes of commercializing the technology for two and three wheeled vehicles throughout Asia to help clean the air.

There’s more to the simple technology than just better tanks in cars. It can also be used to store natural gas at filling stations reducing the cost of these facilities.

Dreaming a bit, too; fuel cell vehicles could use ANG technology to store natural gas, not hydrogen. Some think that fueling a fuel cell vehicle with natural gas reformed on board into hydrogen would be easier than storing hydrogen itself. If ANG made it simpler, easier, and cheaper to store natural gas then it would also help move fuel cell vehicles forward.

A few other good points about natural gas. There’s more of it worldwide than oil. The US produces about 87 percent of its own natural gas. Much of the world’s natural gas is flared off and wasted. Further, the main component of natural gas - methane - is being made all the time. Check your local landfill site, sewage treatment plant, or the septic tank in your yard for sources. And while natural gas filling stations are rare, Honda offers its Phill home refueling station.

There’s a downside to natural gas, of course. If we suddenly started using it in cars and trucks on a wide scale the demand would increase, along with imports. But it is feasible that the greater efficiency of fuel cells would lessen that demand, at least for a while.

Still, there’s lots of natural gas on the planet, we’re making more all the time, and now there may be a really simple and cheap way to store it.



Links:

Energtek
http://www.energtek.com

Honda Civic GX NGV

tigidig14
December 20th, 2007, 03:27 AM
is it safe??? baka sumabog yan pag nabangga ang tricycle

warat yung tumbong nung nakaupo

GearX
December 20th, 2007, 03:34 AM
how much ba commission mo @dessertfox?...:nuts:

Colonel Burger
December 20th, 2007, 04:33 AM
wish ganyan na ang Tricycle sa Antipolo!

dessertfox
December 20th, 2007, 05:03 AM
how much ba commission mo @dessertfox?...:nuts:

Sa mahal nang gasolina ay talagang malaki ang maginging komisyon ko dito hindi lamang ako tayong lahat. Dahil mayroon tayong sariling Natural Gas.
Ang presyo ay 20 pesos laban sa 42 pesos na ngayon ang gasolina ay kalahati lang, maibaba yong presyo nang pamasahe sa tricycle. Sa amin isang biyahe 25 pesos mahal pa sa MRT kaya minsan nilalakad ko na lang. Isa pa yong issue na eco-friendly vehicle ay makakatulong din ito. Totoo lang na may kasambahay ako na sa usok nang tricycle nakuha ang sakit sa baga.:ohno:

3cr
December 20th, 2007, 10:24 PM
BGC is preparing a BRT (Bus Rapid System) already. That would solve the immediate transpo problem of BGC. I agree with you that access to BGC should be via Buendia and not C5. And we have not yet factored Mckinley Hill and North Boni yet.

They need to have an intermodal system for buses, jeepneys and even BRT and MRT in the corner of Kalayaan and Edsa and in BGC.

I sure do hope that they would cat now rather than later. Kawawa naman yung mga commuters papuntang BGC kung mahaba yung pila.

Bottom line, they need to construct the infrastructure now for mass transport in BGC. Mass transport that is in step with the best in the world.

^^ Good to know they are planning on BRT aside from the Fort Bus to solve BGC's public transport demands in the short term. Most probably it won't pass through McKinley Rd. and I also don't see Makati's Binay and the elite residents of Forbes Park and Dasma allowing any kind/form of reconstruction of McKinley Road just to give BGC better access to and from Edsa so what most probably will happen is Taguig/FBDC will put Mass Transport Hubs somewhere at North Fort Boni via Kalayaan to Edsa, somewhere East by MarketMarket/C-5 as originally planned, and somewhere in the South via 5th Ave. extension to Edsa (around South Forbes and Dasma property line perhaps) when JUSMAG's redevelopment comes on line. Hopefully as you said they will accelerate and put the necessary infra sooner instead of later so they could be incorporated nicely as the area develops.

3cr
December 20th, 2007, 10:27 PM
Aside from BRT and Fort Bus, more access/exit road(s) and public transpo hubs at key points within BGC are all that's really needed since the railway extension is already part of the long-term solution/plan. Efficient public transport system will really be key because the current access and exit roads does not look like it can handle heavy/major traffic flow without reconstruction and/or the construction of additional access/exit roads to improve traffic flow in and out of the area. That's why it is better to address the issue and plan for it sooner instead of later so that solutions can be seemlessly incorporated in the overall Master planning of the whole Fort Boni Campus.

I believe Ayala is preparing something to adddress the traffic along Mckinley Road. Sabi sa masterplan that they will be deploying a Bus Rapid Transit and a Northrail that passes through BGC and links with Southrail.

Im hoping that they will build the infrastructure now in BGC. As BGC offers superior infrastructure and transportation systems, it will attract even more investors and tourists to visit this upcoming global city.

Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) is a broad term given to a variety of transportation systems that, through improvements to infrastructure, vehicles and scheduling, attempt to use buses to provide a service that is of a higher quality than an ordinary bus line. Each BRT system uses different improvements, although many improvements are shared by many BRT systems. The goal of such systems is to at least approach the service quality of rail transit while still enjoying the cost savings of bus transit. The expression "BRT" is mainly used in North America; elsewhere, one may speak of Quality Bus or simply bus service while raising the quality.

Bus rapid transit takes part of its name from rapid transit which describes a high-capacity rail transport system with its own right-of-way, its alignment often being elevated or running in tunnels, and typically running long trains at short headways of a few minutes. Because of the name similarity one tends to associate the merits of rapid transit also with the newer BRT expression. BRT encompasses a broad variety of modes, including those known or formerly known as express buses, limited busways and rapid busways and even BHNS in France (Bus à Haut Niveau de Service).

Ironically, the term bus rapid transit does not refer to the speed of BRT buses. Typical transit speeds of BRT systems range from 12 to 30 miles per hour (19 to 48 km/h)which compares well with surface running LRT.[1]

Main BRT features

These bus systems can come in a variety of forms, from dedicated busways that have their own rights-of-way (e.g., Ottawa's Transitway or the Pittsburgh MLK East Busway) to bus services that utilize HOV lanes and dedicated freeway lanes (e.g., Honolulu's CityExpress) to limited stop buses on pre-existing routes.

An ideal Bus Rapid Transit service would be expected to include most of the following features:

* Bus only, grade-separated (or at-grade exclusive) right-of-way : The main feature of a BRT system is having dedicated bus lanes which operate separate from all other traffic modes. This allows buses to operate at a very high level of reliability since only professional motorists are allowed on the busway. A side benefit of this are lower construction costs since busways can be engineered to tighter standards and still remain safe compared to a roadway open to non-professional drivers.
o Such a right of way may be elevated; on rare occasions, the right of way may be a modified rail right of way,
o A bus street or transit mall can be created in an urban center by dedicating all lanes of a city street to the exclusive use of buses,
o Low-cost infrastructure elements that can increase the speed and reliability of bus service include bus turnouts, bus boarding islands, and curb realignments.
* Comprehensive Coverage : In addition to using dedicated busways, BRTs can also take advantage of existing roadways in cities that already have a comprehensive road network for private automobiles. Service can be made more time efficient and reliable than a standard bus system by taking advantage of bus priority methods.
* Serves a diverse market with high-frequency all day service : A BRT network with comprehensive coverage can serve a diverse market (all income ranges) by moving people from their current location to their destination with high frequency and reliability while maintaining a high level of customer experience. As with any transit system, if any of these benefits are taken out of the equation, or do not provide better service than other modes of transit, the network will not be able to serve as diverse a market or offer high-frequency service without heavy subsidy.
* Bus priority / Bus lanes : Preferential treatment of buses at intersections can involve the extension of green time or actuation of the green light at signalized intersections upon detection of an approaching bus. Intersection priority can be particularly helpful when implemented in conjunction with bus lanes or streets, because general-purpose traffic does not intervene between buses and traffic signals.
* Vehicles with Tram-like characteristics : Recent technological developments such as bi-articulated buses and guided buses have benefited the set up of BRT systems. The main developments are:
o Improved riding quality (guided buses, electronic drivetrain control smoothing the operation),
o Increased capacity (bi-articulated or double decker),
o Reduced operating costs (hybrid electric power train).
* A specific image with a Brand name : (Viva, Max, TransMilenio...) and specific stations with state of the art features, automatic vending machines...
* Off-bus fare collection : Conventional on board collection of fares slows the boarding process, particularly when a variety of fares is collected for different destinations and/or classes of passengers. An alternative would be the collection of fares upon entering an enclosed bus station or shelter area prior to bus arrivals (similar to how fares are collected at a kiosk before entering a subway system). This system would allow passengers to board through all doors of a stopped bus.
Bus stop of the Rede Integrada de Transporte (RIT) in Curitiba, Brazil.
Bus stop of the Rede Integrada de Transporte (RIT) in Curitiba, Brazil.
* Level boarding : Many BRT systems also use low floor buses (or high level platforms with high floor buses) to speed up passenger boardings and enhance accessibility.

One could argue however that for the expense of building all these features, one may as well build light rail line but overall operating costs are better for buses, especially if commercially operated.

Acceptance of BRT may increase using trolley-buses, because of the lower gaseous and noise emissions. The penalty of having additional costs for catenaries is outweighed by the increasing fuel prices.




http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/JakartaTransjakartaBusspurInDerJalanSudirman.jpg/180px-JakartaTransjakartaBusspurInDerJalanSudirman.jpg



I hope they develop this soon for BGC. may dedicated lane for BRTs.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bb/Beijing_Bus_Rapid_Transit.jpg/350px-Beijing_Bus_Rapid_Transit.jpg

leechtat
December 21st, 2007, 10:16 AM
^^ sana nga they do.. kaya lang narrow ung roads ng bgc eh.. hopefully it can serve future congestion problems well..

papi_chulo
December 21st, 2007, 07:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LEtf32Bu3Y&feature=related

LhexiMont
December 23rd, 2007, 11:44 AM
^^ sana nga they do.. kaya lang narrow ung roads ng bgc eh.. hopefully it can serve future congestion problems well..


Bakit kasi narrow lang ang ginawang roads sa BGC ..buti na lang hindi ako diyan nagwo work.Mahirap pa naman magbigayan sa accessibility ang Makati at Taguig coz may territorial dispute sila .

3cr
December 26th, 2007, 09:47 AM
^^ i disagree. What they are doing with BGC is actually smart and with good foresight. The road network of BGC is more than enough to support a CBD. Making them wider will not solve any traffic problems as it will just encourage more people to drive their cars to BGC (hence, more parking space would be needed). Urban Planners now know that congestion is a "good thing" (yes, i said its a good thing, believe it or not). Its a good thing as it will force people to seek alternative methods to get to work, in this case BGC. That is why BGC developed the Fort Bus and if everything goes according to plan (hopefully), rail systems such as Northrail will service BGC commuters.

Vancouver (a city with very few highways) is actually better off than most N.A cities in terms of traffic. Abu Dhabi is also applying this no highway, congestion is your friend kind of planning too....in contrast to Dubai which has wide roads and highways. Which city has worse traffic jams? Dubai;)


^^ That's how I see it too Ryan. Just that as of now talagang napaka car centric kasi ng mga pinoy eh but if there will be access to good public transport system available, it may eventually become a disincentive for drivers to drive their vehicles anymore when faced with sitting hours end in bad traffic jams and add to that limited parking as well as parking costing alot (that it's ridiculous really). Just look at cities like New York, San Francisco, Paris, Tokyo among others, di ba people either walk or use public transpo more so than actually drive because it reached a threshold to some where it does not make economic sense to drive anymore. Now in Pinas, I'm not sure what that treshold will be before the public's perception of public transpo changes. What's the actual and opportunity cost lost sitting in traffic? One thing money can't buy is buy back lost time - in business that's not just actual time lost but the opportunity cost of productivity time lost too. Having said this, aside from the Fort Bus, and plans for a BRT system, more access/exit road(s) and public transpo hubs at key points within BGC are all that's really needed since the railway extension is already part of the long-term solution/plan. Efficient public transport system will really be key because the current access and exit roads were not designed to handle heavy/major traffic flow nor were meant too for that matter without reconstruction and/or the construction of additional access/exit roads to improve traffic flow in and out of the area. It's not the existing roadway that needs to change but as you said the people's attitude that needs to change. That will actually do us some good!

AH-7Raja
December 28th, 2007, 06:00 PM
Bill seeks to protect cab passengers

A bill seeking to protect the taxi-riding public from holdups, theft, and overcharging has been filed in the House of Representatives by Caloocan Rep. Mary Cajayon. House Bill 2915 proposes to set up mandatory taxi stands in public and commercial places where security guards will be made to issue stubs to passengers containing information about the taxi they are boarding.

Under the proposed measure, establishments that will fail to implement the system will be fined, with amounts ranging from P50,000 to P100,000 for the first offense, P100,000 to P150,000 for the second offense, and P200,000 to P300,000 and cancellation of permit for the third offense.

Wind Shear
December 30th, 2007, 04:02 PM
my dream vehicle... in Cebu I saw few assembled hummer running there...

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/nab_uang/H1Hummer2.jpg

Looks like a H2 to me.

Waldenstrom
January 2nd, 2008, 10:47 AM
Any developments on the Electric Jeepneys in Makati?

Chrisvenz
January 4th, 2008, 04:49 PM
Surprises me wala pang nagpost ng Avanza taxis..

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/417351181_db69efcaa4.jpg
03 11 2007

mahal tlga ang fare ng taxi na ito... since its very comfortable, sulit namn ang bayad... pero in looks pa lang, nagiging cheap ang product ng toyota cars...:ohno:

3cr
February 20th, 2008, 03:32 AM
Yup I saw it too! Exciting!! Great News indeed for Fort Boni!!! :okay: :okay:

Nakita ko sa Inquirer kanina adds ng FBGC and Mercedes Benz partnership pinakita iyong MB na The Fort Bus. :banana:

xandro
February 20th, 2008, 07:36 AM
Yup I saw it too! Exciting!! Great News indeed for Fort Boni!!! :okay: :okay:

Took a photo of it earlier:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6623/fortbusrz2.jpg

diz
February 20th, 2008, 07:44 AM
wow! that's gorgeous!

bustero
February 20th, 2008, 08:24 AM
I've seen those too, are they true low floor buses or only the first step is low?

ryanr
February 20th, 2008, 09:47 AM
Took a photo of it earlier:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6623/fortbusrz2.jpg

nice looking bus:) any idea how many they are getting?

flymordecai
February 20th, 2008, 10:55 AM
^^ That's one lowrider bus. The paintjob design on the bus would be better if they pushed that graphic down to the side only.

queetz@home
February 20th, 2008, 11:01 AM
I've seen those too, are they true low floor buses or only the first step is low?

They seem to be true low floor buses.

laquacherra
February 20th, 2008, 11:21 AM
^^ yup! they're brand new mercedes benz buses... there were 6 of them parked at bonifacio high street earlier today

MetropolitanBoy
February 20th, 2008, 01:52 PM
Get six more!!! Nice. How much is the fare?

leechtat
February 20th, 2008, 04:21 PM
^^ 10 php

spearhead
February 20th, 2008, 10:39 PM
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6623/fortbusrz2.jpg

Its not perfect, but its the best ever bus in the philippines that fits for a mass transit ive ever seen so far... w/ those features like the front space for handicaps/parents w/ toddlers & strollers too... mas maganda pa sya kesa sa mga buses dito sa canada... im just hoping to see more upgrades next time like the electronic signs instead of those rectangular sign "plates" or whatever u call it, that they typically use there... :cheers:

Ph Man
February 21st, 2008, 03:48 AM
^^ agree. but of course, the old fort buses still do exist. sana next time yung may 2nd floor na.

LordCarnal
February 21st, 2008, 04:03 AM
They should add more buses.. Or better yet why not a monorail to/from Makati?

I was able to ride this bus and the line in Makati was very long that it reached EDSA.. We also waited for more than 30 minutes...

spearhead
February 21st, 2008, 04:41 AM
The government is right on upgrading your bus services first before goin in to more expensive monorails or another LRT lines.

ryanr
February 21st, 2008, 04:43 AM
^^ agree. but of course, the old fort buses still do exist. sana next time yung may 2nd floor na.

Nah, articulated (bendy) buses are better than double decker...they have more doors for better access & exiting.

laquacherra
February 21st, 2008, 08:11 AM
The government is right on upgrading your bus services first before goin in to more expensive monorails or another LRT lines.


these buses weren't provided by the government... Bonifacio Global City's buses are operated by FBDC, a private enterprise.

spearhead
February 21st, 2008, 04:48 PM
pardon me... :)

3cr
February 24th, 2008, 12:34 PM
Very Nice & Cool nga these new Benz buses! Me like it! :okay: :okay:


http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6623/fortbusrz2.jpg

By DJ Yap
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:28:00 02/23/2008


IN METRO MANILA WHERE the jeepney is king of the road, most commuters can only dream of riding in a sleek Mercedes-Benz on their way to work, play or home.

But the dream will become a reality very soon -- at least for some commuters.

Beginning next month, office workers, condominium tenants, shoppers and bar goers can make their way around the Bonifacio Global City at the Fort on board air-conditioned shuttle coaches bearing Daimler’s prestigious Mercedes-Benz brand.
Thanks to a partnership between CATS Motors, the exclusive distributor of Mercedes-Benz in the Philippines, and Bonifacio Transport Corp., the fleet of buses will provide safe, stylish and environmentally sound public transport around the commercial district in fast-rising Taguig City.

“Why take your car when you can take these buses?” asked Jaime Ayala, president of Ayala Land and Fort Bonifacio Development Corp. at the official turnover of the fleet last week.

He enumerated three ways to move around the Fort: “First, walk, (then take) public transport and take the car.” With the fleet of buses soon available, Ayala said there was every reason to leave one’s car in the garage.

Safe and convenient

“It’s our way of moving people around safely, conveniently and comfortably in this green city,” said CATS Motors president Felix Ang.

A smoother and quieter form of public transport means fewer cars on the road, and consequently, lesser emission of harmful gases, said Jochen Carle, Daimler’s vice president for GD Markets in South and South East Asia.

He said the Mercedes Benz O 500, the same motor coach service used in cities like London and Istanbul, emit less exhaust fumes, is more fuel efficient, and has a lower diesel consumption.
Each of the shuttle buses has plush and spacious interiors in cool green tones, wheelchair accessible provisions and low floors. They can seat more than 30 people, and accommodate some 20 more standing up.

Luis Lava Jr. of Bonifacio Transport Corp. said the coaches would be running virtually all day and night, that is, from 5 a.m. to 2 a.m. the following day.
“We’re not only catering to the eight-to-five crowd, but also those working in BPOs or call centers,” he told the Inquirer.

[B]Passengers will be charged a fare of P10 for a trip on the 6.5-kilometer route, a little higher compared to the minimum fare in regular buses, Lava said. Waiting time at the loading bays should be not more than 15 to 20 minutes with at least seven stops during the 10-minute trip.
Lava added that the fleet would run tentatively next month as soon as the Land Transportation Office gives them the green light.

Carle added that he was happy that in the Philippines, it was the private sector that took the initiative of promoting public transport instead of the usual case in other countries where the government often needed to step in.

“If you force this kind of development, if you force a group in a certain direction, it can only go in that direction and limit the industry’s response. But if you encourage this development, it can lead to better solutions,” he said.

According to him, major cities around the world were relying more and more on public transport like railways and buses, instead of individual cars, to move around.

The advantage of buses over trains is that they are more flexible and can cover more ground within a locality, Carle told the Inquirer.

He said developing countries, including the Philippines, tend to favor public transport vehicles like the jeepney, a common fixture in the streets of Metro Manila.

But as the cities grow more developed, they begin to embrace more ecologically friendly and economically sound solutions like shuttle coaches as seen in many European cities, Carle said.

The Philippines may begin to see such trends sooner than later, he predicted.

He cited the case of Istanbul more than a decade ago. “When I first went there in 1989, my first impression was this is going to collapse very quickly. But then the mayor had an investment plan for public transport. They changed all buses into green buses. Now the city has changed dramatically,” he said.

Ayala has similar plans for Bonifacio Global City.

“When we started looking at the plans for Fort Bonifacio, we envisioned a place for passionate minds. We needed a place to work well, a place that is conducive to everyone, where even the disabled can easily move around,” he said.

He added that he was delighted at how the Fort had become a concrete representation of such a plan. “It’s about creating an environment that is pedestrian and environment-friendly,” Ayala said.
:banana::banana::banana:

spearhead
February 24th, 2008, 03:34 PM
I hope manila and its other co-major pinoy cities adopt that idea in the near future.

bustero
February 27th, 2008, 04:55 AM
I wonder if their bus will eventually reach north gate or will only be used in the FBDC area.

gen1
February 27th, 2008, 05:03 AM
Sayang, they didn't take this oppurtunity to make a statement and use an electric powered Fort Bus. Or kahit man lang natural gas powered bus :(

3cr
February 27th, 2008, 03:51 PM
Great find Rick!

More pics of the new FortBus in action!

Flickr finds - Time_Keeper
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/2283339347_a137ea1f91_m.jpg


Flickr finds - mysonnysideup
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2156/2268317201_ab9ffbd660_b.jpg

spearhead
February 27th, 2008, 07:15 PM
Great find Rick!

More pics of the new FortBus in action!

Awe... Any videos? :colgate:

RhapsodyBrat
March 5th, 2008, 02:38 PM
I was finally able to try The Fort Bus yesterday and sobrang okay siya para sa akin. mini-field trip talaga siya all-over the Fort.:D sana lang magkaroon na sila ng mga bus conductors para hindi naman kawawa yung driver na maniningil at magbibigay pa ng ticket at para may mag-advise right away sa mga naghihintay kung standing na ba o hindi.

and since dumarami na rin ang sumasakay ng Bus, maybe they can introduce an improved ticketing system for regular passengers, something like MRT's Stored Value cards na isa-swipe or ipa-punch na lang nila ang info in lieu of getting a ticket.

leechtat
March 5th, 2008, 02:57 PM
^^ i agree... dapat nga may ganun.. mala-VIP card dahil lagi ka na sumasakay..

the fort bus does have a conductor, who does not always come along to help the driver give tickets. baka kumakain ng lunch.. hehe.. but sometimes there are conductors on board the bus.

cq40
March 6th, 2008, 04:09 AM
Melon ba kau map ng route nyan?

metrosuburban
March 6th, 2008, 09:27 PM
^^ hindi ba pwede magimpose ng exact fare only para wala ng conductor?

nayki
March 7th, 2008, 03:10 PM
minsan naman walang conductor, sa driver na mismo bayad pag kasakay ng bus. Madali lang naman ang sukli kasi 10 ang pamasahe.

-TC-
March 11th, 2008, 03:05 AM
http://www.bworld.com.ph/BW031108/content.php?id=044

Megaworld spends P100M for Eastwood-to-airport bus service
Ruby Anne M. Rubio
BusinessWorld
March 11, 2008

FIRST OCEANIC Property Management, Inc., an affiliate of Andrew Tan-led Megaworld Corp., is going beyond providing real estate management services to its principal, condominium corporations and individual clients and customers.

It recently formed a new corporation called CityLink Coach Services, Inc., a public transportation system that will link Megaworld’s projects at Fort Bonifacio in Taguig, at the airport in Pasay, and Eastwood City in Libis, Quezon City.

CityLink obtained a franchise from the Land Transportation and Franchising Regulatory Board last March 6, with a route from Eastwood City to Newport City beside Villamor Air Base in Pasay via C5 Road, and vice versa.

The bus operator has also tied up with transportation groups and will set up a terminal for employees and residents of McKinley Hill Cyberpark in Fort Bonifacio.

First Oceanic Property Management, which was spun off in 1990 to cater to the growing property
management industry, infused P100 million for the CityLink venture.

"With the rapid growth of our mixed-used new township project in Fort Bonifacio, McKinley Hill, we are expecting an influx of workers and residents in the months to come. This new feature is very timely because our very first BPO (business process outsourcing) building here, One World Square, is now ready for occupancy," Megaworld First Vice-President Jericho Go said.

He said the fare is "very reasonable" at only P25 from Eastwood City to Ayala Ave.

CityLink will initially have five class-A buses and will add five more within the year in a bid to make Megaworld’s rapidly expanding BPO locations and residential projects more accessible, aside from sustaining the growth of its township projects.

With 30,000 square meters of prime office space, One World Square is the first BPO building in the 50-hectare McKinley Hill mixed-use project.

"We envision McKinley Hill Cyberpark as a top information technology ecozone after Eastwood City. In the future, we will open up new BPO locations — Newport City which will be built across NAIA-3 and Cityplace in Binondo, Manila. These too will be linked to key stops via CityLink’s bus routes, thereby making a big difference in the lives of millions of employees and residents within the area," Mr. Go said.

Brand-new buses are now plying the streets of McKinley Hill’s main artery, Upper McKinley Road, going to Paseo Center near Ayala Ave.

Megaworld plans to invest P12 billion over the next few years to transform McKinley Hill into a BPO hub. To fulfill a "live-work-play-learn" experience, the company has set aside P3 billion for the project’s commercial component and another P18 billion for a residential component, including McKinley Hill Village.

leechtat
March 11th, 2008, 05:15 AM
this rumor has become reality. good news.

laquacherra
March 11th, 2008, 09:16 AM
^^ i agree. but i hope these buses won't be anything like the current buses... stopping anywhere whenever a passenger wants to get off... hopefully they will be some sort of an express shuttle from one MW township to the next :okay:

queetz@home
March 12th, 2008, 04:32 AM
This will actually benefit me greatly with my hard to reach Cityplace unit once its built. I doubt LRT2 would be extended by one more station to cover the high rise developments there anytime soon and I most certainly ain't walking or taking public transportation in that area (with the "wallet inspectors" if you know what I mean). With Eastwood just a few minutes away from Ortigas or even the Cubao development just an MRT3 away, I can simply take this Megaworld bus to Binondo without worrying about driving in traffic or parking if I need to visit it for whatever reason.

This also alleviates my concern about Eastwood and BGC developments not being near a decent public transit route such as an MRT/LRT line. Its a good start, a very awesome and well thought out initiative by Megaworld, and I hope other developers such as Filinvest and Ayala Land who are building whole communities in these poorly mass transit accessible areas would follow this example.

allan_dude
April 18th, 2008, 09:30 PM
Fort Bus! Share ko lang mga pictures ko..

Sana smart card narin yung ticket system dito, like G-PASS. ang corny kasi, may maingay pang condoctor na nagkokolekta ng P10 na mapasahe bago sumakay ng bus. :lol:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/2423073515_6c3daf21ee.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2144/2423887030_92d3e1483e.jpg?v=1208546609

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3158/2423073731_578efa85e8.jpg?v=1208546614

bustero
April 21st, 2008, 05:45 AM
So does it go to EDSA ? at Mckinley or Kalayaan?

allan_dude
April 21st, 2008, 05:27 PM
^^ No. It turns back at the alley near Shell EDSA-Mckinley/ MRT AYALA.

Eriq
April 21st, 2008, 11:07 PM
Wala ba talagang farebox yung mga Fort Bus???

http://www.ridemetrobus.com/img/media/Farebox.jpg

spearhead
April 22nd, 2008, 02:54 AM
Wala ba talagang farebox yung mga Fort Bus???

http://www.ridemetrobus.com/img/media/Farebox.jpg

That's exactly what they need! Nice modern buses too! Sana gayahin narin sila ng mga ibang bus operators sa manila, cebu, and davao. Its about time to modernize the regular bus services sa pinas.

Fort Bus! Share ko lang mga pictures ko..

Sana smart card narin yung ticket system dito, like G-PASS. ang corny kasi, may maingay pang condoctor na nagkokolekta ng P10 na mapasahe bago sumakay ng bus. :lol:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/2423073515_6c3daf21ee.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2144/2423887030_92d3e1483e.jpg?v=1208546609

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3158/2423073731_578efa85e8.jpg?v=1208546614


Thanks for the photos dude. Im glad to see that pinas is catching up slowly with the rest of the world... konting improvements pa and nationwide implementation narin... :cheers:

BTW, im just curious, paano pumapara yang mga fort buses, every bus stop ba sila tumitigil, or only if some push buttons/pull cable been activated? Tnx.

3cr
April 22nd, 2008, 03:01 AM
Agency eyes bus rapid transit
By Rio N. Araja
Manila Standard
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=police1_april21_2008

THE Metro Manila Development Authority is keen on adopting the bus rapid transit of highly urbanized centers in South America to dovetail its organized bus route system and its radio frequency tagging drive.

Chairman Bayani Fernando said the system would be ideal for Edsa to ease congestion, quickly get passengers to their destinations, and lower the cost of gasoline consumption.

Fernando, executive director Angelito Vergel de Dios, Valenzuela City Mayor Sherwin Gatchalian, Quezon City Vice Mayor Herbert Bautista, and representatives from the Department of Public Works and Highways’ Urban Road Project Office and World Bank went to Bogota, Colombia, and Sau Paulo, Curitiba and Rio de Janeiro, Brazil for a two-week observation of traffic and transportation management.

“Bautista and Gatchalian saw for themselves the gains of BRT to the economy,” he said, indicating the impact of the system on their own localities.

Citing Bogota’s Transmilenio, which was adapted from Curitiba’s model in 1974, Fernando noted the use of lanes for passenger buses only, and a uniform fare.

“Passengers pay at the pre-boarding fare payment, while bus drivers receive monthly salaries. Drivers are not paid on a commission basis.”

Vergel de Dios said the transport sector would be integrated and harmonized instead of being allowed to go into cut-throat and uneconomic competition.

“Under the system, bus operators organize themselves together, and allow another private firm to run the operation of their business,” he said.

“We were told by the mayor of Curitiba that the system can be done here in Metro Manila. The system is a simple solution to ease gridlock. Even the United States of America is adopting BRT.”

Transmilenio set up the infrastructure under the supervision of the government while the operation of a bus consortium including fare collection was placed under contract with private firms.

Vergel de Dios says the franchised 3,500 passenger buses plying the 24-kilometer Edsa and other major roads in Metro Manila would be reduced once BRT is put in place before 2010.

“Edsa is where passengers from the north and south directions as well as those from Manila meet,” he told Standard Today.

He said the agency’s improved Organized Bus Route scheme using the radio frequency identification technology is a prelude to BRT.

“Give us six months before we could introduce the BRT system to the bus operators. We would want to get the exact ratio of passengers to buses.”

Vergel de Dios claimed that the metropolis needed at least 10 bus firms to operate only 10 buses each to meet passenger demand.

spearhead
April 22nd, 2008, 03:16 AM
Wow i can't wait to see thie filipino version of BRT. :cheers:

Waldenstrom
April 22nd, 2008, 07:35 AM
goodlooking bus but it should have a decent terminal.

absinthe_888
April 22nd, 2008, 08:59 PM
yan na ba yung mga mercedes benz na fort bus? yung nasakyan ko bulok na fort bus, blower lang ac. asar.

allan_dude
April 22nd, 2008, 10:17 PM
yan na ba yung mga mercedes benz na fort bus? yung nasakyan ko bulok na fort bus, blower lang ac. asar.

Yes. Malakas yung ac at leather seats, kaso kulang sa leg room pag nakaupo ka.

absinthe_888
April 23rd, 2008, 11:55 AM
Yes. Malakas yung ac at leather seats, kaso kulang sa leg room pag nakaupo ka.

thanks for answering my query allan_dude...sana meh smart pass para cool tignan. 21st century na di kunduktor padin:lol:

3cr
April 24th, 2008, 11:38 PM
I'm glad to see the BRT system being introduced (slowly but surely) as this system will definitely help ease not only traffic congestion but also smog in our CBD corridors. Btw Megaworld has also started their CityLink shuttling bus service (plying thru C-5) which together with the Fort Bus should make Fort Boni area more accessible to public. :okay: :okay:

Taken 25-Apr-08
Citylink buses - Looks like the BGC buses :lol:
http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/MKH-24.jpg


EDSA traffic may cost over P1B in gas, lost manhours, frayed tempers
By MYLA IGLESIAS
Malaya
http://www.malaya.com.ph/may01/busi2.htm

The current horrendous EDSA traffic which spills over to all Metro Manila roads will cost an amazing P1 billion in lost gas, manhours, and frayed tempers before it will be resolved.

The Metro Manila Development Authority (MMDA) yesterday said that the traffic congestion will hopefully start to ease by June leaving Metro Manilans an exact one month to suffer the average two-hour delay in travel time.

Angelito Vergel De Dios MMDA director in traffic operations said that the build-up in EDSA (Epifanio Delos Santos Avenue) was due to the construction of an unloading and loading platforms in Guadalupe and Buendia which started last week.

De Dios said that there is an on going construction in C5, particularly in the U-Turn flyover near the intersection of Kalayaan and C5.

He explained that the loss of C5 as an alternate route added to the EDSA congestion.

A commuter said that from last week, travel time from Pasig using the C5 to Kalayaan averaged at three to four hours, from the usual one hour ride.

De Dios said that the platforms will be completed by June. Repair of the C5 bridge however, will take longer.

The Federation of Jeepney Operators and Drivers in the Philippines (FEJODAP) estimate that jeepney drivers stuck in two hours of traffic will lose four to five liters which will cost from P161 to P201 with diesel sold at P40.25 per liter.

Granting that drivers will lose that much, one million cars that pass EDSA daily losing a liter of gasoline with engines idling in traffic will mean P40 million loss minimum daily. Multiply that by 30 representing the month that commuters will have to bear the traffic will result in total losses of P1.2 billion.

The MMDA said that most used route in Manila is the Ortigas-Santolan road in which an average of 260,000 cars use daily. That is only a section of EDSA, not counting the intersections of Buendia, Ayala, Aurora, Quezon Ave, Shaw, Munoz where traffic are also heavy.

FEJODAP said that it will be very hard for people to conserve fuel with the EDSA type of traffic.

Turning on and off the car engine will only result in bigger gas consumption.

Car owners can save fuel by turning off airconditioning.

For jeepney drivers, FEJODAP said that during night traffic, they can turn off their headlights.

In the US, motorists are using a radical driving technique designed to eke out every last mile from a tank of fuel.

Known as ‘hypermiling,’ the methods can double gas mileage, even in gas-guzzling vehicles that would normally get less than 20 miles per gallon according to Reuters.

Promoted on a growing number of Web sites, hypermiling includes pumping up tires to the maximum rating on their sidewalls, which may be higher than levels recommended in car manuals; using engine oil of a low viscosity, and the controversial practice of drafting behind other vehicles on the highway to reduce aerodynamic drag — a practice begun a few years ago by truck drivers.

For Americans, gas prices are a "serious problem," ahead of jobs, and healthcare, according to a poll released on Tuesday by the Kaiser Family Foundation.

The "advanced" techniques of hypermiling are in addition to well-known approaches including keeping speed down, accelerating gently, avoiding excessive idling and removing cargo racks to also cut down on aerodynamic drag.

3cr
May 2nd, 2008, 11:51 AM
I'm glad to see the BRT system as well as other variants of it being introduced slowly but surely as this system will definitely help ease not only traffic congestion but also smog in our CBD corridors. Megaworld's CityLink shuttling bus service (plying thru C-5) together with the Fort Bus should make the Fort Boni area more accessible to public. :okay: :okay:

Taken 25-Apr-08
Citylink buses - Looks like the BGC buses :lol:
http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/MKH-24.jpg


EDSA traffic may cost over P1B in gas, lost manhours, frayed tempers
By MYLA IGLESIAS
Malaya
http://www.malaya.com.ph/may01/busi2.htm

The current horrendous EDSA traffic which spills over to all Metro Manila roads will cost an amazing P1 billion in lost gas, manhours, and frayed tempers before it will be resolved.

The Metro Manila Development Authority (MMDA) yesterday said that the traffic congestion will hopefully start to ease by June leaving Metro Manilans an exact one month to suffer the average two-hour delay in travel time.

Angelito Vergel De Dios MMDA director in traffic operations said that the build-up in EDSA (Epifanio Delos Santos Avenue) was due to the construction of an unloading and loading platforms in Guadalupe and Buendia which started last week.

De Dios said that there is an on going construction in C5, particularly in the U-Turn flyover near the intersection of Kalayaan and C5.

He explained that the loss of C5 as an alternate route added to the EDSA congestion.

A commuter said that from last week, travel time from Pasig using the C5 to Kalayaan averaged at three to four hours, from the usual one hour ride.

De Dios said that the platforms will be completed by June. Repair of the C5 bridge however, will take longer.

The Federation of Jeepney Operators and Drivers in the Philippines (FEJODAP) estimate that jeepney drivers stuck in two hours of traffic will lose four to five liters which will cost from P161 to P201 with diesel sold at P40.25 per liter.

Granting that drivers will lose that much, one million cars that pass EDSA daily losing a liter of gasoline with engines idling in traffic will mean P40 million loss minimum daily. Multiply that by 30 representing the month that commuters will have to bear the traffic will result in total losses of P1.2 billion.

The MMDA said that most used route in Manila is the Ortigas-Santolan road in which an average of 260,000 cars use daily. That is only a section of EDSA, not counting the intersections of Buendia, Ayala, Aurora, Quezon Ave, Shaw, Munoz where traffic are also heavy.

FEJODAP said that it will be very hard for people to conserve fuel with the EDSA type of traffic.

Turning on and off the car engine will only result in bigger gas consumption.

Car owners can save fuel by turning off airconditioning.

For jeepney drivers, FEJODAP said that during night traffic, they can turn off their headlights.

In the US, motorists are using a radical driving technique designed to eke out every last mile from a tank of fuel.

Known as ‘hypermiling,’ the methods can double gas mileage, even in gas-guzzling vehicles that would normally get less than 20 miles per gallon according to Reuters.

Promoted on a growing number of Web sites, hypermiling includes pumping up tires to the maximum rating on their sidewalls, which may be higher than levels recommended in car manuals; using engine oil of a low viscosity, and the controversial practice of drafting behind other vehicles on the highway to reduce aerodynamic drag — a practice begun a few years ago by truck drivers.

For Americans, gas prices are a "serious problem," ahead of jobs, and healthcare, according to a poll released on Tuesday by the Kaiser Family Foundation.

The "advanced" techniques of hypermiling are in addition to well-known approaches including keeping speed down, accelerating gently, avoiding excessive idling and removing cargo racks to also cut down on aerodynamic drag.

CabanNgTuwa
May 15th, 2008, 05:51 AM
mahal tlga ang fare ng taxi na ito... since its very comfortable, sulit namn ang bayad... pero in looks pa lang, nagiging cheap ang product ng toyota cars...:ohno:

The Avanza looks good, honestly; it's like Toyota's version of the 2nd generation Honda CR-V with the economy of a 1.3 liter powerplant...

Sky Harbor
May 15th, 2008, 05:02 PM
^^ If only Manila taxis looked nicer. Haha. :lol:

Sinjin P.
May 16th, 2008, 12:02 PM
Higit sa isang taon na siguro akong hindi nakasasakay sa mga dyip at vhire. :lol:

freightrunner
May 16th, 2008, 12:58 PM
Higit sa isang taon na siguro akong hindi nakasasakay sa mga dyip at vhire. :lol:

At bakit?

Sinjin P.
May 16th, 2008, 12:59 PM
Dahil hatid sundo ako palagi. :ohno:

freightrunner
May 16th, 2008, 01:04 PM
Buti ka pa hehe.

greenshields
May 17th, 2008, 11:52 AM
Ang ganda ng mga buses sa Fort! I got to try it last week. Sana ganun ang maging standard for buses in our cities. Yung mga bagong bus along EDSA hindi naman configured for city travel eh, they're better used for provincial trips. Proof of this is that the floor elev are quite high and not level with the curbside like the Fort buses. This is because these buses have baggage compartments that aren't necessary for commuting in the city.

skyphire
May 17th, 2008, 04:30 PM
I saw a new bus in Commonwealth that has two flat screen one in front and one in middle. I forgot the name.

michael677
May 19th, 2008, 07:18 PM
^^firstly, kudos to the fort bus for showing what manila can offer! nice modern fleet, long operating hours (6am to 2am!), CHEAP FARE, and is a proper city bus with designated bus stops :applause: but my praises end here..because riding it to work is a real DRAG..u ask why?

i have to bitch about the slow turnaround.its NOT a question of the number of fleet. here's why>>> sure, the buses are spanking new and is a relief to hop on after a long and sweaty walk from the MRT station but again, the case of philippine inefficiency... LONG LINES!!!!!
1.) IN THE 1ST PLACE WHY THE DISTANCE FROM THE STATION?? road is wide enough, they can load right there NO NEED TO PARK IN A PARKING LOT! what is this, an excursion?? imagine the time wasted with the manuvering and all! this is just plain DUMB. even Hong Kong with one way, very narrow and uphill downhill roads you will find buses aplenty.. YOU get in get out!

2.) (this is the real DRAG part ) every morning you will see the queue reaching to a hundred!.. just awful, then 1 bus loading (ever so slowly) , and 2 buses JUST ever so SITTING THERE! apparently theyve got orders to load ONE freakin 'GLOBAL CITY' SPEED TIME AT A TIME :bash: ok i understand their move to instill disicipline by making people queue and all, but they are OVERDOING IT at the expense of the time and well being of people who rush to work and looking for fast convenient and practical transportation that works. even 1st world countries you will see occasional pushing and shoving,( im not saying we should) but lets not be too OA...plus the way passengers board is just too slow(you know how pinoys like to be porma padin in everything!) plus the conductor who gives out stubs! yes, crappy stubs! in shanghai, buses without metro card readers (ala smart card) have u drop coins in a box, talk about practicality

in summary, my commute from carriedo to ayala mrt = 25 mins (pedicab, Lrt-Mrt) commute from ayala mrt to office in the fort = walk from station 7 mins, queue/loading 5-15 MINUTES!!! plus the general surrounding of the waiting area, just plain boring and no hustle and bustle of city life...

there was a time when the bus in front, seeing the absurdity of letting people late for work chose to let the line break and let them in. but there was no chaos at all! .. so then i said to the driver " manong sana lagi po ganito..." what a relief day it was

lesson learned here, if turnaround were faster. the 'Fort Boni Metropolitan Authority' can earn more. also, i hope they drop the BONIFACIO GLOBAL CITY bus sticker on the side. its lame and just shows the incohesiveness and disparity of philippine cities.. and replace it with colorful wrap around ads. stop being so american and perfect, we're in asia! provide efficient and practical transport for ALL (like what china, malaysia, and thailand is doing)

greenshields
May 20th, 2008, 06:08 AM
I'm sure these things will be addressed by Ayala soon. After all, they are revising the Master Plan for the Fort and they've engaged a study for the transport system including a link between the Makati CBD and Global City.

brownman
May 20th, 2008, 10:43 AM
Good-looking buses but needs alot of coping up when it comes to fare collection (e.g. octopus, ez link cards) and a decent terminal.

But anyways, it's a good start.:)

michael677
May 20th, 2008, 04:13 PM
yes yes its really a good start, and i am really happy with this.
but this problem is sooo simple, it doesnt require any investments at all.
just make the buses handle double capacity during morning rush hours--- by fast tracking long queues and board the buses SIMULTANEOUSLY!...

-TC-
May 21st, 2008, 03:21 AM
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20080519-137454/UPDATE-2-DOTC-defers-fare-hike

DOTC defers fare hike
By Abigail Kwok
INQUIRER.net
05/19/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- The Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) has deferred the implementation of the provisional fare increase set by the Land Transportation and Franchising Regulatory Board (LTFRB), Secretary Leandro Mendoza said on Monday.

In a phone interview, LTFRB media adviser Leddy Tantoco said Mendoza has ordered LTFRB chairman Thompson Lantion to “defer the implementation of the provisional transport fare increase pending review of other government support mechanisms.”

Tantoco said the “government support mechanisms” Mendoza referred to are the additional P2 per liter government subsidy on fuel for public transport, access to government-subsidized rice, and tax exemption on spare parts, among others.

As of posting time, Lantion could not be reached for comment. But bus and jeepney operators said they would respect the deferment.

However, the leftist transport group Piston (Pinagkaisang Samahan ng mga Tsuper at Operators Nationwide or United Organizations of Drivers and Operators Nationwide) insisted that government should repeal the oil deregulation law and scrap the 12% extended Value Added Tax (e-VAT) on petroleum products, saying without these, any support mechanisms would be useless. .

Tantoco said it was just a matter of pushing the date of implementation, and that jeepney and bus operators would definitely get a provisional fare increase.

“It will push through. There is already an order and it is signed by Chairman [Lantion],” Tantoco said.

Tantoco also said the agency could implement the fare increase simultaneously with the P2 subsidy on fuel, possibly in June.

The LTFRB announced the provisional fare increase on Sunday and had set its implementation on May 21, Wednesday.

Under the LTFRB joint resolution signed Saturday, the fare for Metro Manila and Regions III and IV jeepneys will increase from P7.50 to P8 for the first four kilometers. Jeepney operators from other regions will also raise their fares by P0.50.

The fare for Metro Manila regular buses will increase from P8 to P9 for the first five kilometers, that for air-conditioned buses from P10 to P11.50 for the first five kilometers.

There will be no increase on the rates for every succeeding kilometer for both Metro Manila jeeps and buses.

Provincial regular buses will increase their fare from P8.50 to P9 for the first five kilometers and P1.40 for every succeeding kilometer.

“It’s all right. We understand the need for government to push the date of implementation because they’re also thinking of the commuters,” Obet Martin, national president of Pasang Masda, said.

But Martin gave the LTFRB “until Monday, May 26, to implement the fare increase. If not, then we will consider other options,” including another transport strike.

Homer Mercado, national president of the Provincial Bus Operators Association of the Philippines (PBOAP), said they respect the need to defer the provisional fare increase.

“Sa tingin namin gusto nilang implement muna ang wage hike bago ito [fare increase] para hindi naman mabigla ang mga pasahero [In our opinion, they want to implement the wage hike before this so the commuters will not be overwhelmed],” he said.

Piston secretary general George San Mateo said, however, that “the mitigating measures being readied by government for the transport sector, like access to NFA (National Food Authority) rice and the P2 fuel subsidy, will not work and will not be enough because these will be drowned by new rounds of oil price increases because of government’s refusal to scrap the oil deregulation law and the continued refusal of President Arroyo to place under state control and regulation the price of oil and the oil industry.”

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http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20080519-137590/Transport-groups-surprised-confused-by-fare-hike-deferment

Transport groups surprised, confused by fare hike deferment
By Riza T. Olchondra
Philippine Daily Inquirer
05/19/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- Emotions have been running high in the transport sector as the Land Transportation and Franchising Regulatory Board (LTFRB) made an about-face on the jeepney and bus fare hikes announced on Sunday, although the suspension of the fare hike order offered relief to commuters already dealing with the rising prices of basic commodities.

Had the provisional fare increases not been deferred on Monday, the minimum jeepney fare in Metro Manila, Central Luzon and Southern Tagalog would have increased to P8 from P7.50 starting Wednesday.

The minimum fare for ordinary buses would have reached P9 from P8 while fare for air-conditioned buses would have increased to P11.50 from P10. For provincial routes, ordinary buses would have added P0.10 per kilometer and air-conditioned buses would have charged P0.25 more per kilometer.

Metro Manila commuters asked by the Philippine Daily Inquirer said they would just bear the additional fare but would walk short distances to save on daily expenses.

But they don't have to -- yet.

Communications and Transportation Secretary Leandro Mendoza said he ordered the line agency to defer the hike "pending review of other government support mechanisms."

Government support mechanisms for the road transport sector include the P2- per-liter fuel subsidy, access to National Food Authority rice, tax exemption to spare parts, anti-extortion and anti-colorum campaigns, a program to build infrastructure for Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) pipelines and stations, and the conversion of jeepney engines from diesel to LPG use.

In a statement, Mendoza said that while he understood the economic plight of transport operators and drivers, "We have also to consider the impact of a fare increase on the commuters and the public in general."

Neither the Department of Transportation and Communications nor the LTFRB responded to requests for further comments, except to say that the provisional fare hike was not scrapped, "only deferred" because of the reasons given in the official statement.

Lawyer Vigor Mendoza, president of party list 1UTAK, which counts major jeepney and bus groups among its members, said that transport leaders were surprised by the deferment.

He said the transport groups thought that the economic effects of a fare increase both on the drivers and the commuters had already been studied. He also said the government never took back a provisional fare hike announcement before.

"This is the first time that government has announced a provisional fare increase, only to take it away later. We (transport leaders) have been explaining the rationale for a fare hike for a long time. We thought it was understood, hence the nominal increase. Now the drivers are confused without an official explanation from government on why the nominal increase was deferred, and when an increase could be expected," Mendoza said.

"Right now emotions are high, but what we (transport leaders) are trying to do is gather feedback, explain the situation as best we can, with the little information we have, and try to reach a consensus after everyone has calmed down," Vigor Mendoza said.

The option to launch a transport strike by June has been placed on the table and transport group leaders have been called to a meeting, said 1UTAK president.

"There were proposals for a strike in June, for example, but first we are calling for a transport leaders' conference. About 500 transport leaders are now being called, we are still looking at the dates possible but we would like this to take place by the first week of June at the latest. This would give us time to calm down, think more clearly, and this will also give government time to give a clearer explanation or to give a definite decision," Vigor Mendoza said.

Mendoza said the transport sector would await the outcome of the Cabinet meeting set for Tuesday, particularly any decision on the fare hike.

"Transportation is of national interest, so we are optimistic that it would be discussed at the Cabinet meeting. We just hope we can be informed soonest of any development (regarding our situation) arising from the Cabinet meeting," Mendoza said. "If the nominal fare hike would indeed be deferred, then we would rather push for our main petitions instead," he said.

Groups allied with the party-list 1-UTAK are lobbying for a fare hike of P1.50 for the first 4 kilometers to make the minimum fare P9 from P7.50, plus an additional P0.50 per succeeding kilometer to make it P1.75. Piston is seeking a fare hike of P1 for the first four kilometers and P0.25 per succeeding kilometer.

The Provincial Bus Operators Association of the Philippines (PBOAP) wants P12 for the first five kilometers plus P1.60 per succeeding kilometer for provincial non-air-conditioned buses. Currently, provincial non-aircon buses charge P8.50 for the first five kilometers plus P1.30 for every succeeding kilometer.

Metro Manila bus groups want P10.50 for the first five kilometers plus P2.10 per succeeding kilometer for metro non-aircon buses. Currently, Metro non-aircon buses charge P8.00 for the first five kilometers plus P1.75 for every succeeding kilometer thereafter. Aircon buses charge 20 percent higher than their non-aircon counterparts, according to prevailing regulations.

Fuel prices have increased 10 times since the start of 2008. As a result, a jeepney driver's daily income has shrunk by as much as P120 a day since the start of 2008, according to studies.

Jeepneys consume an average of 30 liters a day in a 12- to 14-hour workday. About P1,200 must be shelled out just for the fuel and a minimum of P600 as "boundary" payment to the owner of the vehicle.

Given these outlays, a driver who collects P2,000 a day in fares would earn only P200 at best. If the boundary were P900, the driver would be in deficit.

Early this year, when diesel was at around P38 a liter, the common driver earned about P220 up to no more than P300 for the 12-to 14-hour workday.

greenshields
May 21st, 2008, 03:49 AM
Actually, part of the problem is the consumption of fuel by buses and jeepneys. Their inefficient and poorly maintained engines gobble up a lot of fuel, thereby contributing to lower net income for them. A recent study by a UP center shows that jeepneys in Metro Manila and environs average 3- 4 km per liter of diesel. So for a whole day's operation, magastos talaga!

otsootso
May 30th, 2008, 10:24 PM
yes yes its really a good start, and i am really happy with this.
but this problem is sooo simple, it doesnt require any investments at all.
just make the buses handle double capacity during morning rush hours--- by fast tracking long queues and board the buses SIMULTANEOUSLY!...

Sounds like a great solution - buses like those are designed to easily work at full capacity (standing room) especially during rush hours - it's a common sight in major urban centers like Rome, Paris, London and New York.

kiretoce
June 10th, 2008, 05:27 PM
Philippine public transport to run on eco fuel (http://www.gulfnews.com/world/Philippines/10219805.html)

The government is taking steps to wean itself away from dependence on imported fuel, officials said as Filipinos try to come to grips with a wave price increases of petroleum products.

In a press briefing, Land Transportation and Franchising Regulatory Board (LTFRB) Chairman Thompson Lantion said that by 2010, "100 per cent" of the country's public utility transport, particularly bus, taxis and jeepneys (indigenous mini-bus) will be running on either Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) or Liquified Petroleum Gas (LPG).

"CNG and LPG is cheaper compared to diesel and gasoline in a price per litre comparison, plus it is not that taxing to the environment because it is carbon negative," Lantion said.

Being "carbon negative," CNG and LPG does not release more carbon dioxide emissions that what is already in the atmosphere.

Presently, Philippine public transport is heavily dependent on diesel, which like petrol, is largely imported from abroad.

According to the government, the Philippines imports 70 per cent of its fuel requirements and any price disruptions in the world market, such as what is happening right now, impacts on motorists and consumers as well as the overall economy.

Oil purchases

The country spends most of its foreign currency in purchasing oil from other countries.

Lantion said the government had recently announced that it has released a one billion pesos (Dh83.5 million) budget to convert current diesel fuelled jeepneys to bi-fuel transport that is switch from using either diesel or LPG.

The LTFRB official said the budget will be used to provide loans to jeepney operators so that they can convert their units to run on both LPG and diesel.

As for the buses, the government is currently working on a programme to extend similar loans to bus operators.

Taxis running on LPG had been on Philippine roads since seven years ago and Lantion said a programme will be initiated by the government to make more of these types of public transport to convert to bi-fuel systems.

Aside from bi-fuel conversions, Lantion said the government will also be completing the "loop" connecting the elevated Metro Manila rail system, the Light Rail Transport and the Metro Rail Transit.

The completion of the loop had been delayed by several years due to legal issues concerning the government and the project contractors.

greenshields
June 11th, 2008, 04:57 AM
It's so easy for the government to make such press releases without really trying to understand what it would take for the conversion of public transport (jeepneys) from the current diesel to more efficient engines. In fact, the DOST and DENR were surprised because there are no proven technologies for converting diesel engines into LPG or CNG. Gasoline to LPG/CNG meron. And if there would be that technology, it might be too expensive for the sector or even for the government to subsidize.

le Reine
June 11th, 2008, 06:27 AM
It's so easy for the government to make such press releases without really trying to understand what it would take for the conversion of public transport (jeepneys) from the current diesel to more efficient engines. In fact, the DOST and DENR were surprised because there are no proven technologies for converting diesel engines into LPG or CNG. Gasoline to LPG/CNG meron. And if there would be that technology, it might be too expensive for the sector or even for the government to subsidize.Wait, I think LPG was successful on cabs and the CNG buses are being loaned to operators. There were already test drives on CNG buses with the President having used it last year. And the LPG taxis were already in use also since last year (or perhaps earlier than that). So far, I haven't heard any complaints whatsoever from them or the media.

richard24
June 11th, 2008, 06:51 AM
karamihan na ng taxis sa metro manila run on LPG na., bihira na ang gas or diesel ang gamit.

so i guess it would also be a good idea to convert pati jeeps and buses. and besides, its not as expensive as it seems. :)

le Reine
June 11th, 2008, 08:31 AM
karamihan na ng taxis sa metro manila run on LPG na., bihira na ang gas or diesel ang gamit.

so i guess it would also be a good idea to convert pati jeeps and buses. and besides, its not as expensive as it seems. :)yup, yun din napansin ko. they run on lpg na.

para sa akin, they have to remove jeepneys in overcrowded streets, avenues. lalo na sa manila, ang daming jeeps and buses on the same route. i-rationalize na dapat nila yan.

metrosuburban
June 12th, 2008, 01:26 AM
Total phaseout!

greenshields
June 12th, 2008, 02:48 AM
I was pointing out that converting diesel engines of jeepneys to ones using LPG or CNG is not yet feasible at this time or any time in the near or immediate future. DOST and DOE knows this. As for the buses, only a handful are using CNG and are actually running because of the difficulties (not really insurmountable at this time) of extracting and distributing CNG. Malampaya is already producing but there are still safety issues regarding the daughter stations like the one in Shell Mamplasan.

A majority of taxis have converted to LPG but these had gasoline as fuel and not diesel. There is a significant difference in how combustion is attained in gasoline engines and diesel engines which prevents the conversion of ye old jeepney engines (using diesel) to LPG or (more challenging) CNG. However, there is really a need to assess the safety of LPG conversion because there are now a lot of companies doing so-so conversions, thereby endangering the drivers and the riding public. Thus, you can smell LPG in many taxis (these are supposedly the ones na hindi pulido ang conversion). In the more unfortunate cases, taxis have been known to catch fire, hehe.

Rationalization? Tell that to the LTFRB who practically doubled the number of franchises in the last few years when the trend was already decreasing the same since the late 1990's and early part of this century. Are they conniving with the jeepney and bus groups? Are they filling up their pockets and bank accounts for doing so? Tough questions but maybe our last hope is BF finally shifting his attention from EDSA buses to jeepneys all around the Metro. Now that I'd like to see!

kratos1211
June 13th, 2008, 03:13 PM
BusinessWorld
Vol. XXI, No. 223-A
Saturday, June 14, 2008 | MANILA, PHILIPPINES
The Nation
Taguig to build regional transport terminal

A central transport terminal that will serve as Metro Manila’s gateway to Southern Luzon will soon be built along C-5 Road in Taguig City.

This was affirmed by the Taguig City government and the Department of National Defense (DND) during the recent signing of memorandum of agreement (MOA) to undertake a feasibility study for the construction of the Southern Regional Transport Terminal Complex (SRTTC).

In a press statement, Taguig Mayor Freddie R. Tiñga said the proposed public transport terminal will rise on a three-hectare land along C-5 Road near exit leading to the Southern Luzon Expressway (SLEX). The terminal, he said, will feature world-class amenities and facilities.

"The project will benefit us in many ways. Not only will it help ease up traffic in the metropolis, but will also provide many economic opportunities by way of government revenues and job opportunities for our people," Mr. Tiñga said.

For his part, DND Secretary Gilbert C. Teodoro, Jr., lauded the city government for its initiatives in continuously developing the city.

"I congratulate Mayor Tiñga. There’s no need of thinking twice in approving this kind of constructive views," Mr. Teodoro said.

He said the project will contribute to the realization of President Gloria-Macapagal Arroyo’s aim to provide six million jobs in six year, which is on top on the list of Ms. Arroyo’s ten-point agenda for 2010.

Under the MOA, DND authorizes Taguig to use the three-hectare property, owned by DND, as site of the proposed SRTTC subject to applicable laws.

When constructed, the SRTTC will serve the provincial buses plying the southern regional and provincial routes.

"It will serve as the central link to various installations such as the international and domestic airports, the Metro Rail System and other key landmarks in the metropolis," Mr. Tiñga said.

The agreement provides that the city government may enter into a separate agreement for the conduct of the study to determine reasonable compensation for use of the property. However, it should bear no cost to the National Government, to DND and the local government of Taguig.

The local government of Taguig or its private sector partner shall be allowed to establish, develop, operate, manage and maintain the SRTTC, the Agreement provides.

Mr. Tiñga said the terminal shall impose strict regulations that will ensure free-flowing traffic in and outside the terminal.

"Traffic within the SRTTC will be uni-flow. Single entry system shall be enforced via SRTTC main vehicular gate. Bus drivers who are e-pass holders for example, shall be allowed to jointly use the priority lane," he explained.

Aside from unveiling the SRTTC, the city government also introduced its other proposed transportation projects during the MOA signing.

Already on the pipeline are the Taguig Express Transit System (TEXTS), a system linking key parts of the metropolis through transport lines; and the Bus Rapid Transit (BRT), a rail-type transport, except that it employs buses on dedicated lanes, directly connecting C-5 Road in Taguig to Ayala Avenue in Makati .

The MOA signing was witnessed by DND Undersecretary for Civil, Veterans and Reserved Affairs Ernesto Carolina, Engr. Ernie Camarillo, Taguig City Administrator Wilfredo Villar, Taguig 2nd District Councilors Ricardo Jordan and Erwin Manalili, Chief Chaplain AFP B/Gen. Ephrodito C. Magno, and other AFP officials. — Elizabeth T. Marcelo

kiretoce
June 13th, 2008, 09:02 PM
Taguig to build regional transport terminal (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/101074/Taguig-to-build-regional-transport-terminal)

A central transport terminal that will serve as Metro Manila’s gateway to Southern Luzon will soon be built along C-5 Road in Taguig City.

This was affirmed by the Taguig City government and the Department of National Defense (DND) during the recent signing of memorandum of agreement (MOA) to undertake a feasibility study for the construction of the Southern Regional Transport Terminal Complex (SRTTC).

In a press statement, Taguig Mayor Freddie R. Tiñga said the proposed public transport terminal would rise on a three-hectare land along C-5 Road near exit leading to the Southern Luzon Expressway (SLEX). The terminal, he said, will feature world-class amenities and facilities.

"The project will benefit us in many ways. Not only will it help ease up traffic in the metropolis, but will also provide many economic opportunities by way of government revenues and job opportunities for our people," Mr. Tiñga said.

For his part, DND Secretary Gilbert C. Teodoro, Jr., lauded the city government for its initiatives in continuously developing the city.

"I congratulate Mayor Tiñga. There’s no need of thinking twice in approving this kind of constructive views," Mr. Teodoro said.

He said the project would contribute to the realization of President Gloria-Macapagal Arroyo’s aim to provide six million jobs in six year, which is on top on the list of Ms. Arroyo’s ten-point agenda for 2010.

Under the MOA, DND authorizes Taguig to use the three-hectare property, owned by DND, as site of the proposed SRTTC subject to applicable laws.

When constructed, the SRTTC will serve the provincial buses plying the southern regional and provincial routes.

"It will serve as the central link to various installations such as the international and domestic airports, the Metro Rail System and other key landmarks in the metropolis," Mr. Tiñga said.

The agreement provides that the city government may enter into a separate agreement for the conduct of the study to determine reasonable compensation for use of the property. However, it should bear no cost to the National Government, to DND and the local government of Taguig.

The local government of Taguig or its private sector partner shall be allowed to establish, develop, operate, manage and maintain the SRTTC, the Agreement provides.

Mr. Tiñga said the terminal should impose strict regulations that will ensure free-flowing traffic in and outside the terminal.

"Traffic within the SRTTC will be uni-flow. Single entry system shall be enforced via SRTTC main vehicular gate. Bus drivers who are e-pass holders for example, shall be allowed to jointly use the priority lane," he explained.

Aside from unveiling the SRTTC, the city government also introduced its other proposed transportation projects during the MOA signing.

Already on the pipeline are the Taguig Express Transit System (TEXTS), a system linking key parts of the metropolis through transport lines; and the Bus Rapid Transit (BRT), a rail-type transport, except that it employs buses on dedicated lanes, directly connecting C-5 Road in Taguig to Ayala Avenue in Makati .

The MOA signing was witnessed by DND Undersecretary for Civil, Veterans and Reserved Affairs Ernesto Carolina, Engr. Ernie Camarillo, Taguig City Administrator Wilfredo Villar, Taguig 2nd District Councilors Ricardo Jordan and Erwin Manalili, Chief Chaplain AFP B/Gen. Ephrodito C. Magno, and other AFP officials.

greenshields
June 16th, 2008, 09:19 AM
There's another plan for a terminal to be built in the Marikina Riverbanks area adjacent to the almost complete SM Marikina. The terminal will be multi-modal as it would cater to buses and jeepneys, linked to the Line 2 terminal at Santolan, and...access to the Pasig River Ferry through a station to be developed there.

BF himself presented the plan in a presentation he made in UP but it seems na di pa ito mina-market ng MMDA. It's actually a very good project kung matuloy.

ForwardTaguigCity
June 16th, 2008, 04:56 PM
Transport terminal to rise along C5 in Taguig


Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:28:00 06/16/2008

MANILA -- A central transport terminal to rise soon on C-5 Road in Taguig City is poised to become Metro Manila's newest gateway to Southern Luzon, officials announced.

Called the Southern Regional Transport Terminal Complex (SRTTC), the proposed transport terminal will be built on a three-hectare lot along C-5 Road near the exit leading to the Southern Luzon Expressway, Taguig Mayor Freddie Tiñga said.

"Not only will it help ease up traffic in the metropolis, but it will also provide many economic opportunities by way of government revenues and job opportunities for our people," Tiñga said in a statement on Monday.

The Taguig government and Department of National Defense (DND) recently signed a memorandum of agreement (MoA) to start a feasibility study on the proposed terminal, which will feature "world-class amenities and facilities."

Under the MoA, the DND authorizes Taguig City to use the three-hectare property, which the department owns, as the site of the proposed SRTTC.

The agreement provides that the city government may enter into a separate agreement to conduct a study to determine reasonable compensation for use of the property, bearing no cost to the national government, DND and Taguig City.

The MoA also allows Taguig or its private sector partners to establish, develop, operate, manage and maintain the proposed terminal.

Once constructed, the SRTTC would serve provincial buses plying the southern regional and provincial routes, officials said.

It would also serve as the central link to the international and domestic airports, the Metro Rail System and other key landmarks in the metropolis, they added.

The terminal will impose strict regulations to ensure free-flowing traffic in and out of the terminal. Aside from unveiling the SRTTC, the city government also introduced other proposed transportation projects, such as the Taguig Express Transit System (TEXTS) and the Bus Rapid Transit (BRT).

TEXTS is a system linking key parts of the metropolis through transport lines. BRT, on the other hand, is a rail-type transport, except that it employs buses on dedicated lanes, directly connecting C-5 Road, Taguig to Ayala Avenue, Makati.

kiretoce
June 16th, 2008, 09:27 PM
Manila offers loans to convert bus and taxi engines (http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSMAN2626320080616)

The Philippine government said on Monday it would lend up to 1 billion pesos ($22 million) to owners of taxis and buses to convert their diesel engines and cut their reliance on costly imported fuel.

Concerned about the political fallout from soaring inflation, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo is trying to alleviate the impact on poor Filipinos from rising prices of fuel, food and other basic commodities.

"They can use (the money) to finance the engine conversion from diesel to liquefied petroleum gas, compressed natural gas and other alternative fuels," Arroyo said at a launch for more environmentally friendly public vehicles.

Annual inflation is expected to keep rising after hitting a nine-year high of 9.6 percent in May. International oil prices at more than $130 a barrel, double what they were a year ago, are one of the main culprits.

The Philippines imports more than 90 percent of its fuel needs, helping the trade deficit to balloon to $2.1 billion in the first three months of the year compared to a $181 million surplus a year ago.

Arroyo said she wanted 10,000 taxis, buses and jeepneys or mini-buses, to use cheaper and cleaner alternative fuels.

Petron, the country's largest refiner, sells diesel at 49.39 pesos ($1.10) a liter compared to around 31 pesos for a liter of LPG.

Last month, Arroyo scrapped her long-held goal of a balanced budget this year and said she would raise spending to support flagging economic growth and overburdened consumers.

Earlier this month, the government announced a one-time cash subsidy for poor families to meet electricity bills at a cost of around 2 billion pesos.

venntro
June 17th, 2008, 09:08 AM
^^ This is really a welcome development in order for us to have a cleaner air in the metropolis.

IndioBravo
June 17th, 2008, 11:25 PM
hhttp://img77.imageshack.us/img77/6474/63181fq5.jpgttp://And more trees and green spaces please!:)

FerrariLover
June 18th, 2008, 02:30 AM
Higit sa isang taon na siguro akong hindi nakasasakay sa mga dyip at vhire. :lol:

Ako din ang tagal ko na hindi nakakasakay sa jeep, bus, taxi, at tricycle

tyronne
June 18th, 2008, 03:22 AM
Naiinis ako pag yung atat na atat sila magsakay ng pasahero. Hindi ka pa nakakaakyat tumatakbo na yung bus. Sakay sila ng sakay, maluwag pa raw, makakaupo, eh halos kulang na lang punuin yung bus ng tomato sauce at sardinas na ang labas nyo. Tapos pag bababa ka, sisigawan ka pa, konting bilis daw sa pagkilos. Paanong hindi ka matatagalan sa pagbaba eh makikipag-wrestling ka pa sa mga nakatayong pasahero. Tapos kung makahingi sila ng fare increase, aba! Kapal talaga ng mga mukha! Ayusin muna nila mga bus nila. Ang mga upuan butas-butas. May mga tumutulo pang tubig. Tapos pag may narinig silang nagreklamong pasahero na kesyo ang bagal, sisigawan ka pa magtaxi ka na lang daw. Hay naku! Buti na lang hindi stressful sa trabaho. Sa pagko-commute ako nai-stress!

habagatcentral1
June 18th, 2008, 05:06 AM
^^ Teka, yan ba yung mga bus na second-hand (minsan nth-hand pa) buses na dumadaan ng EDSA? Kaasar yang mga yan kung minsan. Mapili pa naman ako sa sinasakyan ko na bus...buti na lang at gumanda na ang mga buses namin plying Dasma-EDSA or Lawton.

I hope they eradicate those bulok buses in the metro...

Wolf1968 ^_^
June 18th, 2008, 07:41 AM
maiba ako sa LPG..may nakausap ako ng taxi driver nun.. masama pala epekto nun sakanila.. di lang sila nag sasalita..kasi mahal nga ung convert..pero marami daw sakanila nag kasakit na dahil sa LPG..pero ang iba nila sa jeep..ung taxi aircon..ung jeep air-con-tinues..kaya di rin sila apektado.. ^_^

le Reine
June 18th, 2008, 10:20 AM
Naiinis ako pag yung atat na atat sila magsakay ng pasahero. Hindi ka pa nakakaakyat tumatakbo na yung bus. Sakay sila ng sakay, maluwag pa raw, makakaupo, eh halos kulang na lang punuin yung bus ng tomato sauce at sardinas na ang labas nyo. Tapos pag bababa ka, sisigawan ka pa, konting bilis daw sa pagkilos. Paanong hindi ka matatagalan sa pagbaba eh makikipag-wrestling ka pa sa mga nakatayong pasahero. Tapos kung makahingi sila ng fare increase, aba! Kapal talaga ng mga mukha! Ayusin muna nila mga bus nila. Ang mga upuan butas-butas. May mga tumutulo pang tubig. Tapos pag may narinig silang nagreklamong pasahero na kesyo ang bagal, sisigawan ka pa magtaxi ka na lang daw. Hay naku! Buti na lang hindi stressful sa trabaho. Sa pagko-commute ako nai-stress!Tumbling naman ako sa observations ni Ty! Pero totoo lagi kong naeexperience yan sa EDSA going to Bicutan. As in palagi walang palya. Kaya kailangan talaga ayusin na yang mga bus sa EDSA kasi nakakabawas ng productivity ng mga tao dahil sa stress! :nuts::lol:

greenshields
June 18th, 2008, 10:55 AM
Most taxis take the shortcut sa conversion to LPG kaya hindi pulido ang fittings and even the materials. Such pose a danger to health dahil sumisingaw ang LPG and na-inhale ng mga drivers and passengers.

absinthe_888
June 19th, 2008, 08:33 AM
Most taxis take the shortcut sa conversion to LPG kaya hindi pulido ang fittings and even the materials. Such pose a danger to health dahil sumisingaw ang LPG and na-inhale ng mga drivers and passengers.

yep tama ka, nagpaconvert sa mura palpak naman.

greenshields
June 19th, 2008, 01:29 PM
I'm afraid jeepneys will join the bandwagon soon and have their engines converted sa mga tabi-tabi lang. We'll have rolling disasters waiting to happen and a lot of people dizzy and vomiting from the fumes.

venntro
June 20th, 2008, 10:24 AM
LTFRB orders cabbies to issue receipts (http://http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=122351)

By PERSEUS ECHEMINADA
The Philippine Star

The Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board (LTFRB) will require some 26,000 taxicabs in Metro Manila to issue official receipts to passengers.

Operators who renew or apply for certificates of public conveyance (CPCs) for their units will be required to have their taxis fitted with special taxi meters that issue receipts, which will be calibrated at the Bureau of Internal Revenue.

LTFRB chairman Thompson Lantion said he will coordinate with top BIR officials for the final implementation of the new scheme, which was suspended last year after taxi operators questioned the meter receipt scheme before the Court of Appeals (CA).

The CA junked the petition, and operators elevated the case to the Supreme Court, which ruled in favor of the government’s new regulation.

"There is no more legal impediment," he said.

Aside from the special taxi meters, the LTFRB and the BIR will also require taxi operators to submit their income tax returns.

The taxi meter receipts scheme is aimed at protecting the riding public from taxis with overly fast or rigged meters. The scheme also helps the government monitor and collect taxes from operators.

Under the new scheme, a taxi meter should be placed on top of the dashboard. All meters must be registered with the BIR.

Lantion urged all grantees of CPCs to operate taxis to comply with the LTFRB order or face stiff fines and penalties.

He said any driver refusing to issue receipts will be fined P1,500 for the first offense, have their CPC suspended for 30 days for the second offense and their CPC cancelled for the third offense.

greenshields
June 23rd, 2008, 02:23 AM
Magkakaalaman na sino ang mga mandurugas na taxi. Receipts are quite standard in other countries. Some taxis even have an option for one to pay by credit card or a transport card that's accepted by all public transport in the city. Among the info indicated in the receipt are amount paid and distance traveled. Other pertinent info are included so pwede gamitin pang-reimburse ng transport costs. Very useful if you can charge your transport to your office or other entity.

Waldenstrom
June 23rd, 2008, 04:33 AM
LTFRB orders cabbies to issue receipts (http://http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=122351)

By PERSEUS ECHEMINADA
The Philippine Star

The Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board (LTFRB) will require some 26,000 taxicabs in Metro Manila to issue official receipts to passengers.

Operators who renew or apply for certificates of public conveyance (CPCs) for their units will be required to have their taxis fitted with special taxi meters that issue receipts, which will be calibrated at the Bureau of Internal Revenue.

LTFRB chairman Thompson Lantion said he will coordinate with top BIR officials for the final implementation of the new scheme, which was suspended last year after taxi operators questioned the meter receipt scheme before the Court of Appeals (CA).

The CA junked the petition, and operators elevated the case to the Supreme Court, which ruled in favor of the government’s new regulation.

"There is no more legal impediment," he said.

Aside from the special taxi meters, the LTFRB and the BIR will also require taxi operators to submit their income tax returns.

The taxi meter receipts scheme is aimed at protecting the riding public from taxis with overly fast or rigged meters. The scheme also helps the government monitor and collect taxes from operators.

Under the new scheme, a taxi meter should be placed on top of the dashboard. All meters must be registered with the BIR.

Lantion urged all grantees of CPCs to operate taxis to comply with the LTFRB order or face stiff fines and penalties.

He said any driver refusing to issue receipts will be fined P1,500 for the first offense, have their CPC suspended for 30 days for the second offense and their CPC cancelled for the third offense.

This is a very goooood news! I hope this will be implemented to all taxicabs.

absinthe_888
June 23rd, 2008, 07:32 AM
tama lang yan na mag issue na sila ng OR. mashadong abusado na mga yan. marami hindi nagamit ng taxi meter. lalo na pag holidays.

absinthe_888
June 24th, 2008, 05:49 PM
Longer railway in Panay eyed
http://www.bworld.com.ph/BW062508/content.php?id=058
— A.B.L. Lorenzo

THE TRANSPORTATION and Communication department wants to extend the planned Panay rail project to Caticlan to accommodate tourists particularly those going to Boracay island, a government official said.

Transport Undersecretary Guiling A. Mamondiong said the project "will be more viable" if it goes beyond the proposed Iloilo City to Roxas City route. "We will update our study on the project. We are already looking for consultants," Mr. Mamondiong said in an interview.

The extended project will reach 200 kilometers from the initial plan of 117 kilometers, costing more than $400 million.

"There are two options for this. It could be financed through BOT (build-operate-transfer) or ODA (official development assistance)," Mr. Mamondiong said.

The rail system is intended to support agro-industrial activity in Panay, but Mr. Mamondiong said the project will carry both passenger and cargo when completed.

"The purpose is similar to the Mindanao rail project," Mr. Mamondiong said.

The department is currently reviving plans for a rail system in Mindanao, a project which was shelved when talks collapsed between the government and the potential German financers. (gawa siguro ng Fraport PIATCO disaster)

spearhead
June 24th, 2008, 07:39 PM
Longer railway in Panay eyed
http://www.bworld.com.ph/BW062508/content.php?id=058
— A.B.L. Lorenzo

THE TRANSPORTATION and Communication department wants to extend the planned Panay rail project to Caticlan to accommodate tourists particularly those going to Boracay island, a government official said.

Transport Undersecretary Guiling A. Mamondiong said the project "will be more viable" if it goes beyond the proposed Iloilo City to Roxas City route. "We will update our study on the project. We are already looking for consultants," Mr. Mamondiong said in an interview.

The extended project will reach 200 kilometers from the initial plan of 117 kilometers, costing more than $400 million.

"There are two options for this. It could be financed through BOT (build-operate-transfer) or ODA (official development assistance)," Mr. Mamondiong said.

The rail system is intended to support agro-industrial activity in Panay, but Mr. Mamondiong said the project will carry both passenger and cargo when completed.

"The purpose is similar to the Mindanao rail project," Mr. Mamondiong said.

The department is currently reviving plans for a rail system in Mindanao, a project which was shelved when talks collapsed between the government and the potential German financers. (gawa siguro ng Fraport PIATCO disaster)

Way to go!

spearhead
July 17th, 2008, 11:09 PM
Saksi: Taxi operators reduce operations due to losses
07/18/2008 | 12:43 AM
http://www.gmanews.tv/video/25869/-Saksi--Taxi-operators-reduce-operations-due-to-losses

I rather see these taxis than the old fashion gas-fueled jeepneys. Mga bulok na jeepneys and their inorganized route & service system talagang pampapanget sa bansa natin!

spearhead
July 17th, 2008, 11:11 PM
QTV: Army implements car-less day amid high oil prices
07/17/2008 | 12:40 PM
http://www.gmanews.tv/largevideo/related/25829/QTV-Army-implements-car-less-day-amid-high-oil-prices

icarusrising
August 1st, 2008, 05:46 AM
LTO issues orange plates for e-jeepneys (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/0801&022008/nation01.html)

By Jonathan Mayuga
Correspondent


THE Land Transportation Office (LTO) has finally released license plates for electric vehicles to the environment-friendly electric-powered jeepney or e-jeepneys.

The Green Renewable Independent Power Producer (GRIPP), the e-jeepney project proponent, and Greenpeace welcomed the move as a landmark in greener Philippine transport.

The orange-colored plates are issued specifically for electric vehicles and their issuance by the LTO was largely spurred by the e-jeepney and the Climate-friendly Cities project, which was designed to help curb dependence on fossil fuels by cities–of which it is part.

“The registration of the e-jeepneys is much-awaited and smoothens the way for the full implementation of the Climate-friendly Cities project, particularly when we start scaling up e-jeepney fleets around the country. The full-implementation of the project will hopefully steer the Philippines—starting with pioneering cities—away from harmful fossil fuels, and toward climate-friendly, sustainable, renewable energy-based transport,” GRIPP chairman Athena Ballesteros said.

Launched on July 4 last year in Makati, as part of a larger intiative that demonstratres how cities can help mitigate the problem of climate change through implementing measures that would avoid the use of climate change-inducing fossil fuels, the e-jeepneys will now be registered under the new classification “low-speed vehicles [LSVs]” provided in the implementing rules of Administrative Order AHS-2008-14 that sets the guidelines for the registration of LSVs.

Through the project, a fleet of electric-powered jeepneys will derive energy from biodegradable waste from the city’s wet markets, food establishments and households, thus helping mitigate climate change even as it addresses urban problems such as air pollution and solid waste.

The orange plates are issued to private LSVs. Yellow plates and orange stickers will be issued to for-hire e-jeepneys when the Land Transportation and Franchising Regulatory Board issues the permits, that GRIPP hopes to be processed soonest.

Four e-jeepneys will be among the first to be issued the plates: three units plying Makati, and the one currently operating at the University of the Philippines-Diliman campus. They will also be inspected by the LTO’s Motor Vehicle Inspection Station team.

These jeepeneys, however, are exempted from the agency’s standard smoke-emission testing procedures.

GRIPP believes the launch of the registration classification will enable better access to e-jeepneys, promoting its acceptability to transport groups. With current spiraling fossil fuel prices, the e-Jeepneys stand to increase income levels of jeepney drivers by at least P400 a day, without the respiratory health hazards associated with conventional, frequently smoke- belching jeepneys. That is aside from anticipated environmental benefits, such as less air pollution and climate change mitigation.

“The problem of global climate change and worsening air pollution are a result of really bad environmental decisions made in the past. The e-jeepneys represent the range of technologies now made available for us to choose a cleaner, low carbon development path. Spiraling diesel and gasoline prices prove that fossil fuels are not the energy choices for the future. The e-jeepneys represent the revolution toward clean, renewable-energy alternatives that must be implemented now, and in a much larger scale, by the national government,” Greenpeace executive director Von Hernandez said.

The Climate-friendly Cities project is sponsored in part by the Dutch Doen Foundation and is supported by the governments of Makati, Bacolod, Baguio and Puerto Princesa cities.

The Wolfman
August 9th, 2008, 07:29 PM
I do hope they could address the issue with long lines though I still firmly believe that falling in line/discipline be instilled to Filipinos, tough love baby, we are a very spoiled country when it comes to these common courtesies. EDIT: But I agree that they should allow simultaneous boarding during rush hours, I think this can be done efficiently without promoting chaos.

I think the City poised to become the new center of the CBD of MM should really be ready when it comes to transportation, unlike Makati and Ortigas, it's relatively hard to get to Fort Bonifacio.

Nice buses though :D, are there buses that link c-5 to Fort Boni? I haven't tried the c-5 to Boni route commuting.

Waldenstrom
August 11th, 2008, 05:42 AM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm209/waldenstrom/DSCI0075-1.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm209/waldenstrom/DSCI0076.jpg
Electric Jeepney now has Landmark-Makati Medical Center route via De La Rosa :okay:

jvl
August 11th, 2008, 06:08 AM
^ I like the uni the driver....presentable and respectable....I hope he is as diciplined a driver as well. Are they employed under the local government of Makati?

How was the ride?

jvl
August 11th, 2008, 06:11 AM
Manila's public transport system shows the strain as prices soar
AFP

MANILA- Belching thick clouds of black exhaust smoke, a dilapidated "jeepney" minibus brims with commuters jammed together like sardines during rush hour in Manila.

Crawling on to the next stop, and another long line of demoralised workers, it is but one vehicle that comprises the congested morning traffic here.

Commuting in Manila, a sprawling city of more than 12 million people, has never been easy.

Most of the city's public transport vehicles are second-hand, poorly maintained and in many other countries, would never be allowed on the road let alone to carry passengers.

The Philippine National Railway is old and dirty and during peak hours it is not uncommon to see people sitting on the roof or hanging off the sides of railway carriages and diesel engines.

The only modern part of the city's public transport system is the overhead Light Rail Transit (LRT) and the Metro Rail Transit (MRT). But they have reached maximum capacity and trains are said to be dangerously overcrowded during the morning and evening rush hour.

And on the back of high fuel prices the situation for commuters is about to get even more unpleasant. Those "lucky" enough to own a car are leaving them at home and instead joining the long lines of human traffic squeezing into the back of jeepneys, buses or trains.

The minimum jeepney fare, the backbone of the Philippine public transport system, has gone up twice since May from 7.50 pesos to 8.50 pesos (about US 16 cents to 18 cents) and volatile world oil prices could see prices rise again.

Bus and taxi fares have also increased to keep pace with high fuel costs. Diesel, which is used in most public transport vehicles, has risen by 42 percent since the start of the year and 64 percent since June last year.

In May the government increased the minimum daily wage in Manila by 33 US cents to around eight dollars.

But in a country where 40 percent of the population live on less than a dollar a day and with inflation hitting double digits, transport costs have not only impacted heavily on the lives of poor Filipinos. They have also dented the pockets of the middle class.

Tet Defensor, a public relations consultant, is from a two-car extended family in suburban Quezon City but with the rising cost of petrol, she no longer drives to work.

"We used to have two drivers now we only have one because we only use one car," she told AFP.

"My parents are too old to commute so they use the car," she added.

Roger Guzman a college professor now leaves his car at home and joins the growing army of people using public transport.

"We were a three-car family," he tells AFP. "Now we only use one."

"Each car once cost around 2,500 pesos a month in gas," he said.

"Now that's how much it costs a week. So, one car has gone from 2,500 to 10,000 pesos a month. Multiply that by three and you get 30,000 pesos ... we just can't afford it anymore."

Popular Manila radio celebrity Joseph Javier better known as "Mojo Jojo" says that high petrol prices have also affected his lifestyle.

"My life is now being limited to a five kilometre (three miles) radius if I drive," he told AFP, adding that he has bought a motorcycle because "it's cheaper, just 100 pesos and you have a full tank."

With tickets costing 10 to 15 pesos the LRT and MRT are fast becoming the preferred mode of public transport for many commuters who don't mind the long lines and cramped conditions.

Quick and reliable, the overhead light rail can carry passengers across Manila without the congestion and constant changes of buses and jeepneys on the road.

According to the MRT, traffic on its line has increased almost 25 percent from 9.84 million passengers in April 2007 to 12.55 million in April this year.

The story is similar for the two LRT lines that cut across the city.

The surge in passenger numbers, however, is causing concern among light rail officials.

"Strain on the MRT line is approaching a critical level," said the MRT's general manager Roberto Lastimoso.

"We’re already going over the maximum capacity," he admitted, but declined to give figures.

Lucentino
August 11th, 2008, 06:26 PM
^^The importance of railways is now being manifested. Here is hoping for more rail projects to come!

Waldenstrom
August 12th, 2008, 02:12 AM
^ I like the uni the driver....presentable and respectable....I hope he is as diciplined a driver as well. Are they employed under the local government of Makati?

How was the ride?
Yup. he's a disciplined driver employed under the city gov't. of Makati. He's a MAPSA. It ran smoothly like a car. :)

RonnieR
August 12th, 2008, 09:03 AM
^^The importance of railways is now being manifested. Here is hoping for more rail projects to come!

Paging the politicians....government leaders.

Arciga_01
August 13th, 2008, 12:12 AM
Shhh, Baka ma derail mo un masasamang balak nila :P

jvl
August 19th, 2008, 01:49 PM
Rail is good and is definitely an answer to mass transport problems.

Yup. he's a disciplined driver employed under the city gov't. of Makati. He's a MAPSA. It ran smoothly like a car. :)

So there is no boundary system... good thing!

spearhead
August 19th, 2008, 10:17 PM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm209/waldenstrom/DSCI0075-1.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm209/waldenstrom/DSCI0076.jpg
Electric Jeepney now has Landmark-Makati Medical Center route via De La Rosa :okay:

Good job! :)

IndioBravo
August 19th, 2008, 10:19 PM
^^Dapat ito sa Pilar Village,ingay ng mga tricycles sa amin!!kainis!:bash:

Porknight
August 20th, 2008, 04:22 AM
^^The importance of railways is now being manifested. Here is hoping for more rail projects to come!

Not only Railway , but public transport in General. If its possible we need to make more MRT/LRT or a subway . I saw the pics of the commuters in rush hours . Scary there are too many of them !

I hope they will implement also larger sidewalks , pedestrians are commuters too !

spearhead
August 22nd, 2008, 07:05 AM
magandang pamalit yan sa mga tricycle...

bitoy
August 22nd, 2008, 07:17 AM
Delikado pala sa baha yan...

spearhead
August 22nd, 2008, 07:20 AM
dapat kasi ang baterya eh merong water proof enclosure.

azntxn
October 30th, 2008, 05:17 AM
Would implementing mandatory conversion of tricycle cabs to this design be feasible? These "EcoCabs" are so much more pleasant to the eye

http://daviding.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/20070726_kobe_pedicab.jpg

wheel of steel
October 30th, 2008, 05:31 AM
Would implementing mandatory conversion of tricycle cabs to this design be feasible? These "EcoCabs" are so much more pleasant to the eye

http://daviding.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/20070726_kobe_pedicab.jpg

You are wonderful friend. I would like this project to be materialized. It's pleasing to eye if you see tricycles in uniform design.

greenshields
October 30th, 2008, 06:02 AM
There were electric tricycles presented in the recent Taguig City Transport and Traffic Summit held at the Blue Leaf in Ft. Bonifacio. Are those ecocabs like mopeds? I see the pedals. Baka medyo mahal siya compared with our typical pedicabs?

kiretoce
April 6th, 2009, 06:21 AM
Motorcycles on Metro Manila streets (http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20090404-197892/Motorcycles-on-Metro-Manila-streets)

As a motorcycle rider, I resolutely avoid riding in the city. I think one cannot find a more unsafe place for bikers than Metro Manila’s streets. That is why I can’t help being distressed by daily reports of road accidents involving motorcycles in Metro Manila. A growing number of fatal accidents seem to happen between dusk and dawn, involving riders and passengers of light motorcycles without safety gear, and mostly along inadequately lit roads and intersections. In some instances, the drivers are under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

It is easy to make generalizations on the basis of what is seen on the early evening news. The media reports tend to prompt knee-jerk reactions aimed at curbing the rights of two-wheel riders. But nothing can be more silly and dangerous than to borrow measures developed from the experiences of other countries. What we do with motorcycles, how we ride them, for what purpose, and under what conditions, are very much shaped by the particularities of our culture and societal reality. The encounter between technology and culture is basically unpredictable. To adopt new road use arrangements, like designating a special lane for motorbikes, without the benefit of a systematic study, may only complicate traffic and cause even more accidents.

There is no excuse for irresponsible driving, but I argue that many collisions between bikers and other motorists occur because the latter have not learned to “see” the former as legitimate road users. I believe that the first thing we need to accept is that motorized two-wheelers — “underbones,” scooters, and big bikes — insofar as they pay the vehicle registration fee and road user’s tax, have the same entitlement to the use of the roads as four-wheel vehicles. On major thoroughfares and expressways, where traffic is fast-moving, restrictions on access may be imposed against some types of vehicles. But that is another issue.

The relative “invisibility” of motor bikers in the radar screens of the average Filipino motorist is mainly due to the fact that cars and buses came to our country way ahead of motorcycles. This is unlike the situation in big cities like Delhi, Bangkok, Saigon and Jakarta where two-wheelers achieved a critical mass on city streets long before an emerging middle class could afford cars. In our case, the transition is from four wheels to two, which testifies not only to the decline of a postwar automobile culture, but also to the country’s failure to provide an adequate mass transit system to its growing population. The exponential growth of remittances from our overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) and the entry of low-priced bikes from China greatly accelerated the acquisition of motorbikes by lower-income Filipinos in just the last 10 years.

What this means basically is that motorcycles, which now constitute about 45 percent of all registered motor vehicles in the country, are at that point in the transition where they take their visibility for granted and tend to be more aggressive in the struggle for limited street space. This is a situation that aggravates drivers of other vehicles no end. As they sit helplessly in slow-moving traffic, they are inclined to vent their fury on the two-wheel riders in “puruntong” [knee-length] shorts who recklessly weave in and out of the train of steaming cages. The market for small commuter motorbikes will continue to grow. We can anticipate a time when motorbikes will be dominant on Metro Manila’s streets. When that time comes, deaths from motorcycle accidents will hopefully go down, rather than up. For there is safety in increased visibility.

But, in the meantime, we find ourselves in the worst possible conjuncture. The urban population grows unabated. The number of vehicles being registered continues to rise, yet our streets are not expanding. Experimentation with various traffic schemes never seems to stop. The motorist in Metro Manila navigates a dimly-lit terrain interrupted by the dazzling lights of gigantic billboards showing men and women in seductive poses. He must contend with U-turn barriers that suddenly materialize in front of his headlights. He must watch out for other motorists who indifferently talk, text, and read messages on their cell phones while driving.

These are problems that attend the difficult transition to a complex society. There is little we can do except to anticipate the conditions that complexity brings. But this presupposes a capacity to plan well before the problems manifest themselves. Our ability to educate our people about modernity is severely compromised at every turn by the governance deficit that has worsened over the years.

Yet we need not wait to reform the whole political system before we can begin addressing the issue of safety in our streets. Accidents may not be easy to prevent during this difficult period, but the number of deaths can be significantly lowered if we strictly enforce some basic rules. Motorbike riders must be required to wear proper protective head gear—not those thin plastic caps that instantly fly out of a rider’s head during a spill. The wearing of a sturdy helmet has been shown to avert death in 70 percent of all motorcycle accidents. More important, riders should not be allowed to take more than one passenger, and, certainly, not small children.

The arrival of cheap scooters and motorcycles has immensely democratized mobility in our society, but it has come with a steep price. It would be insensitive to take this away from our people now by imposing all kinds of restrictions with which only the truly well-off can easily comply.

barrera_marquez
April 6th, 2009, 09:57 AM
Dapat ang mga motorsiklo pinalalayas sa mga expressways... sobrang delikado para sa kanila ang makipag-karerahan sa mga sasakyan lalo sa North Luzon Expressway na parang may karera lagi ng mga bus.

jmmg_32188
April 6th, 2009, 10:39 AM
Dapat ang mga motorsiklo pinalalayas sa mga expressways... sobrang delikado para sa kanila ang makipag-karerahan sa mga sasakyan lalo sa North Luzon Expressway na parang may karera lagi ng mga bus.

^^ kahit sa EDSA dapat bawal sila.. kung pwede nga lang mawalan ng motor eh.. hehe.. o kaya dapat ay turuan ng maayos na pagmamaneho ang karamihan sa kanila.. at saka maglagay ng motorcycle/bike lane..

happosai
April 7th, 2009, 10:23 AM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm209/waldenstrom/DSCI0075-1.jpg


^^Bat di ko na nakikita yan sa Makati? Isang beses lang ako nakasakay dyan.

kiretoce
April 7th, 2009, 10:37 AM
^^ It ran out of electricity. :hilarious

r93k401
April 7th, 2009, 11:15 AM
^^ It ran out of electricity. :hilarious
:lol::lol::lol:

Dreamtofly
April 8th, 2009, 11:11 AM
Good job! :)


I don't consider the electric jeepney as an eco friendly. Actually the electric that powers the jeepney still not generated thru green ways kasi Manila still using coal and diesel for the power generation.

le Reine
April 8th, 2009, 11:25 AM
^^Aside from that, it will surely cause congestion esp to narrow roads, which in turn could cause pollution too.

hybridace101
May 1st, 2009, 12:44 AM
One problem in Metro Manila transport are taxis. During rush hour, they don't want to strictly stick to the meter. In fact last night, the driver wanted me to add P30 to the meter. Sometimes they can simply refuse the hire during these times. Are these illegal? How can I complain? How reliable are they?

mwg12a
May 1st, 2009, 12:47 AM
I hope this thread would be dedicated in posting pictures of the 20th centuries taxi cabs in the Philippines. This would be a nice addition.

alcogoodwin
May 1st, 2009, 05:51 AM
One problem in Metro Manila transport are taxis. During rush hour, they don't want to strictly stick to the meter. In fact last night, the driver wanted me to add P30 to the meter. Sometimes they can simply refuse the hire during these times. Are these illegal? How can I complain? How reliable are they?

I seem to remember there being a transport office complaint number on the back of virtually all buses and other types of transport vehicle.
You could try there, but the times I have done it while in the Phils nothing has ever come of it, at least that I know of.

pi_malejana
May 1st, 2009, 06:29 AM
try LTO... it'd better if you have the plate number...:)

hybridace101
May 1st, 2009, 01:38 PM
What can you do to ensure you can get a taxi during rush hour that can stick to the meter? Frankly we are paying too much for the fare.

Why is it that drivers have the gaul to complain or refuse the hire? They should be lucky they still have passengers!

kiretoce
May 2nd, 2009, 01:25 AM
^^ Because they know that when a passenger is desperate, they'll just pay the hiked up prices anyway.

mwg12a
May 2nd, 2009, 03:31 AM
^^^^ And partly they would lose money and not meet their "quotas" during rush hours if they accept some passengers who goes to farther places and out of their own usual route, especially at night where the peak hours for passengers and they usually make more money because they don't have to sit somewhere to wait for customers. Imagine if they get caught in traffic and they have to take a passenger to a place where they can't usually pick up a passenger who wanted to be driven to a more farther places he usually ply and park his unit which is the owner's garage. Some of them does lose money or earning. Had the traffic in M.Manila is better, Manila drivers would be as good as Cab drivers in Cebu, Davao or Bguio for instance, these drivers doesn't turn down passengers and no contract the method of payments from the passengers.

hybridace101
May 2nd, 2009, 12:46 PM
Does the LTFRB or relevant authorities know about these tricks? What have been done before to crack down? Isn't there like a passenger's rights bill?

I've checked countries like Singapore and they are bound to follow the meter or lose/have their licence suspended. Consider this: the cabs are run by big firms like SMRT or Comfort Delgro.

mwg12a
May 2nd, 2009, 07:44 PM
Will somebody please give me an idea on how to get a Philippine driver's license if you re not a Philippine citizen. Let's say for instance I use to possess a Philippine license but was expired for more than 10 years and you have that old /expired license stashed somewhere. What is the latest procedures and requirements? Where should one go? I am just curious that's all. Thank you very much.

kiretoce
May 2nd, 2009, 08:20 PM
^^ Get an International Drivers License. Most countries honor that, if you are licensed as one. I don't know if the Philippines does. Check this website out: www.idlservice.com.


You made me think of something. I'm wondering if the contestants in The Amazing Race are IDL holders since they also drive in other countries. Hmm.... :|

Sky Harbor
May 2nd, 2009, 08:25 PM
It's quite easy to renew: just present your old license, a license renewal form, medical certificate, drug clearance certificate and TIN. Go to the LTO office in Quezon City to renew. Citizenship is irrelevant in the issuance or renewal of a driver's license.

Yes, Kimber, the Philippines accepts IDPs, and foreign licenses too! Foreign licenses are valid in the Philippines up to 90 days from entry. After 90 days, you have to convert to or apply for a Philippine driver's license. :D

It's ironic that I'm answering these questions: I don't even have a driver's license! :lol:

mwg12a
May 2nd, 2009, 09:10 PM
Well, I know citizenship isn't really a factor. I was just thinking there is a different procedure and things might have changed. They needed drug clearance and medical certificate just to get a driver's license there? WOW! What is a TIN?

I think i am aware that a foreign license is recognized in the Philippines the difference is, I thought it was only good for 30 days, good to know that it's 90 days. I wasn't sure of the international drivers license at first, thanks for that.

I have driven in Manila before even while I don't have a philippine license but I just want to make sure that next time I go there, just to play it safe, I wanted to get a driver's license. I can barely remember what we have done when I first got a Philippine license as i was a minor then, I think we bribed someone in the province of Laguna... he he I went there with a couple of friends who were both Pakistanis and together, we all got a license. They were 18 and I was 16.. We were helped by my aunt back then. She is no longer around so "the connection" is gone...LMAO

Sky Harbor
May 2nd, 2009, 09:15 PM
^^ It's 30 days. I was mistaken in stating 90 days. Whoopsie me! :lol:

pi_malejana
May 3rd, 2009, 09:02 AM
here's a link to the LTO--more reliable imo...:D

http://www.lto.gov.ph/dls_faq.html

Sky Harbor
May 3rd, 2009, 09:38 AM
^^ So it is 90 days. Whoopsie me again! :lol:

pi_malejana
May 3rd, 2009, 09:39 AM
^^ yeah... wait, so if you're caught and chose not to bribe(:D), paano ka mumultahan kung foreign license mo??:dunno:

kiretoce
May 3rd, 2009, 10:46 AM
^^ They'll bribe you in dollars. :lol:

alcogoodwin
May 3rd, 2009, 01:55 PM
^^ Get an International Drivers License. Most countries honor that, if you are licensed as one. I don't know if the Philippines does. Check this website out: www.idlservice.com.


You made me think of something. I'm wondering if the contestants in The Amazing Race are IDL holders since they also drive in other countries. Hmm.... :|

I got an international drivers license when I went in 2004 and everyone laughed, saying to just show my Aussie one as that would be enough.
I am not sure if that is an official thing, it certainly was in Fiji.

Brad

And Whoopsie me as well, Sky Harbour already answered this :-)

alcogoodwin
May 3rd, 2009, 01:59 PM
Hi all,
I recently started to add information on all Philippine transport to my railway website.
If anyone is able to help with information, especially in the bus and ferry sections which I have been starting with, it would be most appreciated.

Link in signature below.

Brad

mwg12a
May 4th, 2009, 12:54 AM
I got an international drivers license when I went in 2004 and everyone laughed, saying to just show my Aussie one as that would be enough.
I am not sure if that is an official thing, it certainly was in Fiji.

Brad

And Whoopsie me as well, Sky Harbour already answered this :-)

Thank you Brad, I think you're right. Just make sure you have a driver's license even if it's foreign. I'm glad to know it's infact 90 days as opposed to 30 days I previously thought. I guess that was here in the US, foreign drivers license is good for 30 days, same thing as in an out of state license if you claimed you are rising in that county or state already. You're required to secure an official state issued driver's license.
^^ yeah... wait, so if you're caught and chose not to bribe(:D), paano ka mumultahan kung foreign license mo??:dunno:



^^ They'll bribe you in dollars. :lol:

I think the police officer who stopped you has the legal right to impound your vehicle if you get but that stopped depends on the situation. Normally, I think they just let you go and give you a verbal warning (if the officer didn't ask you for a coffee money as opposed to the donut here in the US. LOL)

OT:

I remember last time I went to the Philippines, I decided to just commute. I got on a jeepney in Alabang area and the driver on the jeep I got on was a "pootie" his wife (maybe gf, I presume its the wife) was besides him collecting the passenger's money. It's weird to see a foreigner especially a pootie driving a public transport trying to earn a living..LOL The dude was older, he was probably in his late 40s he never really talked because the wife picks up the fares from the passengers so I can't tell if it's an Kano , an aussie or what...

pi_malejana
May 4th, 2009, 01:44 AM
^^ kunwari DUI?? would you have any record of that when you return to US??

alcogoodwin
May 4th, 2009, 02:40 AM
I remember last time I went to the Philippines, I decided to just commute. I got on a jeepney in Alabang area and the driver on the jeep I got on was a "pootie" his wife (maybe gf, I presume its the wife) was besides him collecting the passenger's money. It's weird to see a foreigner especially a pootie driving a public transport trying to earn a living..LOL The dude was older, he was probably in his late 40s he never really talked because the wife picks up the fares from the passengers so I can't tell if it's an Kano , an aussie or what...

Whats a "pootie" :lol: Never heard the term before.

I would love the chance to drive a Jepney for a day. I love those things, you would never have to pay me for the pleasure of doing a jeepney shift.:)

I have long thought about approahing the MRT/LRT systems to be trained to drive these. Another thing I have dreamed of doing.

Brad

pthfndr19
May 4th, 2009, 04:17 PM
PADYAK (Pedicab) popular means of transportation in Samar.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/padyakNorthernsamar.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/padyak.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/Catarman_Jollibee.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/Catbalogan.jpg

Marni
May 4th, 2009, 05:30 PM
Spider Cab
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll54/marsofalltimes/PC281214.jpg
Tacloban's version of a Taxi Cab

mwg12a
May 5th, 2009, 07:58 AM
^^ kunwari DUI?? would you have any record of that when you return to US??

no need for records, they just arrest you and impound your vehicle. LOL

pi_malejana
May 5th, 2009, 08:00 AM
^^ ahaha...:lol: bahala na si BF...:D

mwg12a
May 5th, 2009, 08:00 AM
Spider Cab
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll54/marsofalltimes/PC281214.jpg
Tacloban's version of a Taxi Cab

Have the meters and such? How do they rate the payments? projected?

I think it looks awesome! Something different.

Marni
May 5th, 2009, 10:26 AM
Projected lang. Yah its unique indeed but I wonder why they called it Spider Cab

Kintoy
May 6th, 2009, 05:26 PM
http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu182/wetboxers/P5010778a.jpg

kiretoce
May 7th, 2009, 06:31 AM
Whats a "pootie" :lol: Never heard the term before.

I would love the chance to drive a Jepney for a day. I love those things, you would never have to pay me for the pleasure of doing a jeepney shift.:)

I have long thought about approahing the MRT/LRT systems to be trained to drive these. Another thing I have dreamed of doing.

Brad

Pootie means a white (caucasian) person. The term is derived from the Tagalog word puti, which means "white." That's how the pootie people here in the US pronounces the word "puti." :colgate:

alagangan
May 28th, 2009, 04:42 AM
Here is the video clip of Genius mUV prototype. It runs on 660cc petrol engine but an EV version will be built.

http://www.cadcollaboration.com/geniusbiz/genius.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwnd1A37A-M&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWoQ8qvNDiw&feature=channel

Thanks

freightrunner
May 28th, 2009, 09:06 AM
Here is the video clip of Genius mUV prototype. It runs on 660cc petrol engine but an EV version will be built.

http://www.cadcollaboration.com/geniusbiz/genius.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwnd1A37A-M&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWoQ8qvNDiw&feature=channel

Thanks

Yeah that's a good start. Please put it into production. I promise I'll get one.:cheers:

Ecija
May 29th, 2009, 03:06 AM
Spider Cab
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll54/marsofalltimes/PC281214.jpg
Tacloban's version of a Taxi Cab

Ang ganda naman, parang delivery van ng DHL.:)

alagangan
May 29th, 2009, 05:00 AM
Yeah that's a good start. Please put it into production. I promise I'll get one.:cheers:

Thank you freightrunner,
It's been a while that the project has been on hold. I am finding ways to convince my financial supporters to continue the project. Your feedback means a lot to us.

http://www.cadcollaboration.com/geniusbiz/genius4.jpg

Here's another image of the genius mUV. The roof has a special design that makes it a very useful personal utility vehicle despite having micro dimensions.

Thanks,
A. Lagangan

adverg
May 29th, 2009, 06:07 AM
I am wondering now why they allowed motorcyles to run in major roads, here in Malaysia, motorcyles have their own lanes. This is very risky and prone to accidents, when this trend starts?

mwg12a
May 29th, 2009, 09:50 AM
http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu182/wetboxers/P5010778a.jpg

Yikes! Bakit mapula ang lupa? May encanto ba diyan sa lugar na yan??LOL:lol::banana::bash::nuts:

Thank you freightrunner,
It's been a while that the project has been on hold. I am finding ways to convince my financial supporters to continue the project. Your feedback means a lot to us.

http://www.cadcollaboration.com/geniusbiz/genius4.jpg

Here's another image of the genius mUV. The roof has a special design that makes it a very useful personal utility vehicle despite having micro dimensions.

Thanks,
A. Lagangan
Electric cars? Or whatever fuel efficient type of car? I think i like the style.

kiretoce
May 30th, 2009, 06:59 AM
Taxicabs given till June to use receipt-issuing meters (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/163516/Taxicabs-given-till-June-to-use-receipt-issuing-meters)

By June, taxi operators should have receipt-issuing taximeters installed on their cabs when they go to the Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board to have their meters resealed.

On this note, LTFRB Chairman Alberto Suansing rejected suggestions to give taxi operators a grace period for them to install receipt-issuing meters.

“Umpisa Hunyo, lahat na taxi sa Pilipinas na pupunta sa aming opisina para magpa-reseal ng metro, dapat nakakabit ang metrong nakakapag-issue ng resibo. Sa hindi pa nasasakupan ang gagamitin ang manual receipt (Starting June, all taxis in the Philippines will have to present receipt-issuing meters when they go to our offices to have their meters resealed)," Suansing said in an interview on dwIZ radio.

When asked if there will be another extension of the deadline, he said, “wala po (none)."

Suansing said the first batch of taxis expected to comply will be those with plate numbers ending in 1 and 6.

He said there is no prescribed brand, dealer or distributor for the meters, whose prices he said range from P12,000 to P15,000. Some operators had complained the meters cost P18,000.

On the other hand, he said there is no more excuse for taxi drivers and operators to delay.

“Sana ang nangyari kung nakaipon ang operators ... kahit P20 isang araw meron silang pambili (If the operators saved at least P20 a day, they could have bought such a meter by now)," he said.

hybridace101
May 30th, 2009, 12:13 PM
Question: why are aircon buses bound for Alabang via Sucat and Bicutan more rare than aircon buses bound for Ayala? To the former, more ordinary buses are common.

spearhead
May 30th, 2009, 03:19 PM
Where are the Tour Buses in the philippines like this one?
http://stretchlimochicago.com/fleet/images/57-Passenger-VanHool-Luxury-Tour-Bus-Outside.jpg

spearhead
May 30th, 2009, 03:20 PM
Thank you freightrunner,
It's been a while that the project has been on hold. I am finding ways to convince my financial supporters to continue the project. Your feedback means a lot to us.

http://www.cadcollaboration.com/geniusbiz/genius4.jpg

Here's another image of the genius mUV. The roof has a special design that makes it a very useful personal utility vehicle despite having micro dimensions.

Thanks,
A. Lagangan

Projects like this should be spearheaded and supported by the government. :cheers:

kiretoce
May 30th, 2009, 08:59 PM
^^ If you meant supported financially by the government, well, that might be a stretch. Often times, it's the private sector that finances the research, development, and manufacturing of projects like that.

spearhead
May 30th, 2009, 10:51 PM
I'm hoping in any ways they can...

freightrunner
May 30th, 2009, 11:40 PM
Projects like this should be spearheaded and supported by the government. :cheers:

Small car assemblers like Norkis of Cebu and Amianan Motors of La Union are constantly looking for projects that can easily penetrate the market. I think there is a market for these micro cars out there and these two companies may just be interested in trying out this particular project. This kind of car can be a viable replacement to tricycles in small cities if redesigned to accomodate two more doors.:cheers:

mwg12a
June 2nd, 2009, 04:39 PM
^^ If you meant supported financially by the government, well, that might be a stretch. Often times, it's the private sector that finances the research, development, and manufacturing of projects like that.

Somehow, the Philippine government should support and encourage it and then throw it in to private sectors in cooperation with the Philippine government so it can materialized. These little cars can be marketed as fuel efficient automobiles that can be exported, trouble is, there are already small cars out there in the market. What the filipino manufacturers and inventors can do is to find out a better way to make this car a better "green car" and if they are proven to be of a serious safety standard and a very reliable automobile, it's not just going to help the filipinos to find an alternate mode of transportation but it will also help the economy if the international market take notice of it. I've been seing two seater mini automobiles here made by chrystler. Too bad they file bankruptcy but hopefully, crystler would still continue developing a more competitive automobiles. BTW, these tiny chrystler automobile didn't rate very well in safety standards in the US. Maybe the Philippine version would par much better.

spearhead
July 7th, 2009, 09:44 PM
I think it deserves a separate thread:

http://cdn.wn.com/o25/ph//2009/04/22/2af84c2da667fc708936b9087fc9cf2e-grande.jpg
http://dynamic2.philonline.com/home_July_2009/fp070609_a.gif
http://myvespa.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/e3-tricycle.jpg?w=275&h=338

MANILA: It is not just their colourful and flamboyant look that is creating a buzz in the Philippines.

Noise and smoke-free, electric tricycles – also known as E3s – are now becoming the transport of choice for Taguig City's busy office workers.

Noisy and smoke-belching tricycles used to rule the streets of the bustling business district south of Manila but these days, busy office workers in Taguig City are now able to smell a different atmosphere.

Carol Sapida, an office worker in Manila, said: "I don't drive my car anymore. So this saves on gasoline. And I also get to breathe fresh air. The tricycles before emit dark smoke that worsens my allergy and my sinusitis. So this is better."

Even tricycle drivers prefer these green machines over their old vehicles.

Alfredo Dela Cruz, a tricycle driver, said: "Not only did our incomes increase by about 40 to 50 per cent, driving this electric tricycle is better for us because we don't inhale black smoke anymore."

Equipped with five 12-volt batteries running solely on electricity, these E3s can run at a maximum speed of 45 kilometres per hour and can travel up to a distance of 120 kilometres.

One-time charging would cost less than a dollar compared to a full tank of diesel which costs about US$4.

There are at least three million tricycles all over the Philippines, and they far outnumber cars and jeepneys. These electric tricycles therefore play a huge role in the fight against global warming.

With the transport sector contributing a majority of Metro Manila's pollution problems, Taguig City hopes that other cities will be able to follow suit, and lessen the city's worsening air pollution.

Freddie Tinga, Mayor of Taguig City, said: "You don't want to be in a situation where your back is against the world and pollution is so bad that you really can't do anything anymore. So this is important for us to do now."

Sean Gerard Villoria, president of Electric Vehicle Solutions, said: "Our offer is at no acquisition cost to the drivers and operators. With the joint venture with the LGU's, we will co-finance the E3 with the LGU's so that people have no reason not to use it."

With a price tag of about US$3,000 per unit, the city government says the E3 is much cheaper than a brand new gasoline-fed tricycle.

Proponents are now working on building recharging stations that will allow the electric tricycles to charge up instead of gas up.

- CNA/yb



http://article.wn.com/view/2009/04/22/Makati_now_mulls_fielding_electric_trikes/

spearhead
July 7th, 2009, 09:48 PM
This one is being promoted in Davao:

http://cdn.wn.com/o25/ph//2009/04/22/311c7ca9e133514863e6b725776951cf-grande.jpg

TeslaCoil
July 7th, 2009, 09:57 PM
I want to see more of these in provinces.

spearhead
July 7th, 2009, 10:09 PM
Yup i agree.

greenshields
July 8th, 2009, 01:40 AM
Only if they replace the conventional tricycles. Ang nangyayari kasi, nadadagdagan lang ang tricycles. The convetional, 2-stroke powered trikes should be phased out in favor of electric as well as other "cleaner" versions of the tricycle. But then again, this should be weighed together with an LGUs need to graduate to a better, higher capacity public transport mode once it reaches a certain level of urbanization.

olineil
July 8th, 2009, 01:54 AM
I don't know about this. Although the idea is great, seems it needs to be refined. Looks too heavy. With that additional shark fin whatever it just adds weight to the vehicle thereby lowering its efficiency (battery life to weight ratio). They should have adopted lighter materials.

Sky Harbor
July 8th, 2009, 04:21 AM
Mods, please correct the spelling of this thread. What on Earth is a "ticycle"?

bumbilya
July 8th, 2009, 04:23 AM
i wonder if these are going to be marketed as privately owned vehicles. it may attract environmentalists and the niche segment between motorcycles and cars with the addition of protective gear vs. rainy weather and maybe, side impact collision.

absinthe_888
July 8th, 2009, 05:32 AM
Mods, please correct the spelling of this thread. What on Earth is a "ticycle"?

Ang avatar nyo po sir ay buwan, ang thread starter ay isang eagle, ngunit kayo pa ang nakapansin na wrong spelling. kayo po ang eagle eyed :)

wag kayong magagalit sakin please :lol:

daily commuter
July 8th, 2009, 07:41 AM
Ayus din talaga sila, acceptable ang designs:

http://cdn.wn.com/o25/ph//2009/04/22/2af84c2da667fc708936b9087fc9cf2e-grande.jpg
http://article.wn.com/view/2009/04/22/Makati_now_mulls_fielding_electric_trikes/

Ang tawag ko sa mga yan ay PIRANHA :lol:

http://www.*******************/south-america/brazil/images/st/amazon-animals-piranha.jpg
^^ from *******************

mwg12a
July 8th, 2009, 07:51 AM
Nice thread. Kudos to the brain child of this fun thread dedicated for environment friendly concept vehicle. Funny as it may seems but I think I would want to own one of this. Maybe I should so when I go to the Philippines, I have my own vehicle i can ride around.. he he

pi_malejana
July 8th, 2009, 08:01 AM
^^ what if we just rename the thread to ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN RP, or something like that... so that we won't have different threads for e-jeepneys, e-trikes, e-buses, etc...
:2cents::)

boroyski
July 8th, 2009, 08:16 AM
Para sa Flat roads lang ba yan o puede rin sa ahunan? I am thinking of having 1 and puro mataas ang lugar namin (at the foot of Mt. Banahaw).

mwg12a
July 8th, 2009, 08:51 AM
^^ what if we just rename the thread to ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN RP, or something like that... so that we won't have different threads for e-jeepneys, e-trikes, e-buses, etc...
:2cents::)

good idea. maybe tell the mods

daily commuter
July 8th, 2009, 08:57 AM
Para sa Flat roads lang ba yan o puede rin sa ahunan? I am thinking of having 1 and puro mataas ang lugar namin (at the foot of Mt. Banahaw).

dapat parts ng SUZUKI ang kunin mo hehehe :lol:

Planning Democracy
July 8th, 2009, 08:58 AM
Kamukha ng electric tricycle si Sonic the Hedgehog.

Mag golf cart na lang sila and pangit ng itsura niyan e. Why do they have to invent a new electric vehicle eh meron naman mga commercially available na golf cart? If mashado mahal then maybe we can produce our own versions.

Unless maganda yung motor mo at sidecar, yung mga tricycle natin dito ang pangit talaga ng itsura. Pwede rin siguro mga electric tricycle basta gandahan lang yung side car at yung design ng motor.

mwg12a
July 8th, 2009, 09:04 AM
Gumagamit pa rin ng gas ang golf cart, kaya may difference ang dalawa. Ano ba ang ginanda ng golf cart, wala rin naman halos pareho lang, magmukha ka lang tanga pag golfcart ang gamit mo sa kalye.

absinthe_888
July 8th, 2009, 09:21 AM
^^ meh electric golf car na po sir...

Planning Democracy
July 8th, 2009, 09:27 AM
Gumagamit pa rin ng gas ang golf cart, kaya may difference ang dalawa. Ano ba ang ginanda ng golf cart, wala rin naman halos pareho lang, magmukha ka lang tanga pag golfcart ang gamit mo sa kalye.

Sa Araneta Center may umiikot na na golf cart para sa mga pasahero

freightrunner
July 8th, 2009, 01:36 PM
Kamukha ng electric tricycle si Sonic the Hedgehog.

Mag golf cart na lang sila and pangit ng itsura niyan e. Why do they have to invent a new electric vehicle eh meron naman mga commercially available na golf cart? If mashado mahal then maybe we can produce our own versions.

Unless maganda yung motor mo at sidecar, yung mga tricycle natin dito ang pangit talaga ng itsura. Pwede rin siguro mga electric tricycle basta gandahan lang yung side car at yung design ng motor.

Re-post lang po ito from Beep-beep. Nauna ko kasing tiningnan doon hehe.
Ano yung nasa ibabaw? Is that functional or just a useless garnish? And they don't really look good at all. Just like their e-jeepney counterparts dapat i-redesign. An electric vehicle can be both environmentally friendly and cool to the eye too you know.

freightrunner
July 8th, 2009, 01:42 PM
Gumagamit pa rin ng gas ang golf cart, kaya may difference ang dalawa. Ano ba ang ginanda ng golf cart, wala rin naman halos pareho lang, magmukha ka lang tanga pag golfcart ang gamit mo sa kalye.

Electric naman lahat ang golf cart talaga outside RP. Yung gas engine yan yung yard truck na gamit mostly ng mga landscaping companies. Minodify lang to accomodate extra riders.

TeslaCoil
July 8th, 2009, 04:45 PM
yung mga electric tricycles na yan eh made in the philippines ba o galing na naman ng china?

mwg12a
July 9th, 2009, 12:40 AM
^^ meh electric golf car na po sir...

Oo ng mayroon ngang electric golf car pero para naman na talagang katawa tawa na tayo kung yuon ang ginagamit sa kalye pang pasahero samantalang sa ibang lugar hinding hindi mo makita yan ginagamit pang pasahero. Duon sa mga establishments gaya ng aranta at MOA understandable ng kaunti. Hindi ba mas malakas ang hatak (torque) ng mga Etricycle kaysa sa mga golf cart?

Singlishman
July 9th, 2009, 03:56 AM
Only if they replace the conventional tricycles. Ang nangyayari kasi, nadadagdagan lang ang tricycles. The convetional, 2-stroke powered trikes should be phased out in favor of electric as well as other "cleaner" versions of the tricycle. But then again, this should be weighed together with an LGUs need to graduate to a better, higher capacity public transport mode once it reaches a certain level of urbanization.

If demands show that electric tricycle is better, those 2-stroke trikes will die out like and become extinct like the dinosaurs.