I think more of us need to be active in the city vs. forum as i know Jhb has lost to san diego and Sao Paulo, and cape town has lost to adelaide. So we need to up our game.

I couldn't be bothered with those threads because if it aint a pretty quaint first world city with manicured lawns and towering skyscrapers, it isn't deserving of anything.

Thus Joburg is just bound to lose all the time, as people think Joburg and then they close their minds and think crime grime crime. Yet it is so much more than that, and I as a Joburger know that and am not going to waste my time proving it to them.

Indeed, at the end of the day, I love Joburg, and to me, that's all that matters now, isn't it. :)

good for u mate!

its so tiring trying to convince narrow minded foreignors what our cities have to offer. they can only tell once they've been, so we will continue to lose for many more years until they actually see that we mean business here. so F them and just get on with life

I think more of us need to be active in the city vs. forum as i know Jhb has lost to san diego and Sao Paulo, and cape town has lost to adelaide. So we need to up our game.

Having lived in South Africa for 15 years, I'm always there for you!

Yeah, I've put in my bit. More SA guys should participate in the other international threads. Not of the SA forumers are. It's so damn pathetic that Cape Town are being set up with a cities like Beirut or Lima (for Christ sake!).

Very tough on the City vs. City threads...we always lose.......plus, its generally a "vote for your hometown and if not your hometown, a town that you know someone in".

I have created threads in the "Rate Our Talls" and numerous south africa forumers were there, voting AGAINST it (it's opinion, so that's fine) and bashing the building and my views on it... so I just don't even use the "rate" section anymore... it's always lose-lose.

Anyways, I don't see how cities can be rated.. it's really just a popularity contest that people can get high off of.

Yeah, I've put in my bit. More SA guys should participate in the other international threads. Not of the SA forumers are. It's so damn pathetic that Cape Town are being set up with a cities like Beirut or Lima (for Christ sake!).

hahaha thats so funny...
do u think Cape town or whatever is better than Beirut.

you want to say otherwise? Prove it!

my god beirut is like iran imo

its crap when cape town is compared to crap cities where they aint even on the same level.....we were rated the 5th best city to see before you die above the likes of dubai london,new york , tokyo and in july we made 7th in the CNN 2005 best city in the world and we get compared to the likes of adelaide and lose !! but nobody will listen the facts or look at the pictures so whats the point ?

good for u mate!

its so tiring trying to convince narrow minded foreignors what our cities have to offer. they can only tell once they've been, so we will continue to lose for many more years until they actually see that we mean business here. so F them and just get on with life


first of all, beirut is simply off the hook. amazing place. i love it to death.

its so tiring trying to convince narrow minded foreignors what our cities have to offer. they can only tell once they've been

this is the truth. but u made the same mistake just now with ur beirut comment

here we go.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=275445

Cape Town vs. Rio vs. Sydney
Cape Town is getting killed.

my god beirut is like iran imo
actually Beirut is amazing, im off skiing next month in Ceder pines and going to a wedding in the city. Spending a week in Labanon as its a very cool place. beirut feels like paris next to the sea with the mountains in the background also a bit like Vancoucver in that respect

well i have been there and i really didnt like it

oh well when 2010 comes around we'll show how beautiful durbs ,cpt and jhb coz wil be broadcasting to millions of people

billions.

hahaha thats so funny...
do u think Cape town or whatever is better than Beirut.

yes.

well i have been there and i really didnt like it

The people there are so incredible and friendly, though :) It used to be like Paris.. aww so long ago haha

whats beirut....?? havent the bombs flattened the city?

In Beirut, beautiful buildings (a surprising number have been very very fixed up) stand right next to buildings blown down their girders... strange sight, it is

The people there are so incredible and friendly, though :) It used to be like Paris.. aww so long ago haha

and the girls are hot as hell

Good thing we the WC2010 is coming our way. For once the ignorant world will look down South and see what SA looks like and what we have on offer. This will surely put our cities on higher ratings.
Maybe, US airliners will also start flying here and bring in more businessmen and property developers, to the likes of Donald Trump, who might be interested in erecting badly needed skyscrapers...

^^ south africa has tons of skyscrapers. and it is a developed country except it hasnt done anything to bring hte blacks out of poverty.

I can tell you've never been to South Africa before.

^^ south africa has tons of skyscrapers. and it is a developed country except it hasnt done anything to bring hte blacks out of poverty.
Welcome to class mate! We'd be glad to teach you about South Africa 2005.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=282194

It is about harbours.

Hey guys, I started a Cape Town versus Rio thread so go vote. Show that South African power.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=285287

this is going to be hard. we need everyone behind us!!

Man, As patriotic as I am, I won't be too optimistic about the Cape/Rio comparison. We're in for a kill!

I gotta say Beirut is great. Like thryve said it did used to be like the Paris of the middle east until thecivil war. Butsince then it has really come along alot, and maybe one day with a lot of hard work it will become its former self.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=285437

I just checked city vs city, and were beating Acapulco 6 to 5, and were beating rio 7 to 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, just gotta make sure we win!!!!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=285697

I think more of us need to be active in the city vs. forum as i know Jhb has lost to san diego and Sao Paulo, and cape town has lost to adelaide. So we need to up our game.

cape town lost to adelaide? adelaide is such a shithole and the most serial killer freako filled place in the world. its worse than PE. ask any australian not from s.aus.

I gotta say Beirut is great. Like thryve said it did used to be like the Paris of the middle east until thecivil war. Butsince then it has really come along alot, and maybe one day with a lot of hard work it will become its former self.
Im off to Mazar al Farayr (Lebanese ski resort 2 hrs from beirut) in 3 weeks as well as spending a few days in the city. Cant wait cos its a very cool place

I've heard of it but I've never been there. I'm sure it does not matter, but I thought they called it Faraya Mzaar :dunno: :dunno: whatever same thing, the only part of Lebanon I've been to is Beirut.

Hey you guys don't forget to vote for Cape Town, we're getting killed.

Im off to Mazar al Farayr (Lebanese ski resort 2 hrs from beirut) in 3 weeks as well as spending a few days in the city. Cant wait cos its a very cool place

IT is indeed!!!!

we are losing to Caracas

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=6576186#post6576186

IT is indeed!!!!
mmmhh bomb blast in Beirut a few hours ago, a bit uneasy with Lebanon at the moment.

Hi

It is a real shame that SA cities do so consistently badly on the city v city forum. Its pretty pathetic for example that Caracas is presently ahead of Cape Town!! We should also be way ahead of the likes of Adelaide and other pretty insignificant cities!!

Its also about time we found a decent photographer to post some photos of the most photogenic country in the world! Compare the photos of CT with those of Tel Aviv etc etc. Compared with other Country forums e.g. NZ, the SA forum is virtually photo free. 'Why don't u do it ?' I hear someone say - simply because I am a crap photographer and I know my limitations! Lets make a concerted effort to get some decent photos onto this forum and to show some patriotism by voting for SA cities on the city v city forums!!

I wish to protest the total double standards displayed by the moderators of these forums!

Enigma is allowed to post lies and crap, provoke other particpants etc etc and he gets away with it, whilst I (formerly using handle Dave) am blocked, simply for responding to his pathetic anti SA propaganda. This is totally unaccepatable, but also pretty stupid, as I will simply keep re-registering until the moderators see sense!

I am not aware of any rules that I have broken on this forum. Why don't u ban Enigma - how about a poll on the SA forum on this!!

u got banned?? what absolute bullshit....i used ur comment in another forum as it was appropriate and well put...enigma has a problem with anyone who exposes who he is and im sure he made sure u got banned...i dunno who's cock he sucked ....

Mo Rush

Yea, I have had to re-register using a different email address and name! I will not be put off though!! Enigma is a total stranger to truth and his his anti SA propaganda is nauseating ! (driven largely by his 'boyfriend'!)

I notice that he is already hinting about spreading his wings again and heading for Melbourne - see one of his postings in the NZ forum under a photo of the Melbourne skyline! I wonder will he have anything good to say about NZ when he moves to yet another city!

He may not like it, but the facts speak for themselves. The NZ property boom petered out early this year and people (including myself) are scrambling to get out without getting too badly burned. There are presently more than 7000 new apartments in Auckland and prices in some cases have dropped by nearly 10-20%.

Meanwhile in SA the stage is being set for a prolonged and sustained increase in property prices. I am now wishing I had invested a lot more money in SA than in NZ. But u live and learn!

I notice that he is already hinting about spreading his wings again and heading for Melbourne - see one of his postings in the NZ forum under a photo of the Melbourne skyline! I wonder will he have anything good to say about NZ when he moves to yet another city!



Actually he doesn't have any wings he uses a broomstick to get around.

Hi SAPA, good to hear you have been able to return this forum. I too hope that Enigma is banned.
Just a quick response to your comments on the NZ property market. I have sold the house I lived in since '01 in Queenstown, NZ last year and only just in time too. That house has just been put back on the market for less now and people said I was mad to sell... Now back in Sydney and prices here have eased almost 20% in 18 months. And there is speculation of a prolonged settling of values as they really were over the top in '03. Another 30% drop is being mooted as a realistic drop.. I say have another look at ZA. Wish I'd that in '01.

im getting my 4th property in SA in Jan and focusing on Durbs with a t least a 20% capital gain in 06. I hope intrest rates clime and the rental yields start moving back towards 10%

I wish to protest the total double standards displayed by the moderators of these forums!

Enigma is allowed to post lies and crap, provoke other particpants etc etc and he gets away with it, whilst I (formerly using handle Dave) am blocked, simply for responding to his pathetic anti SA propaganda. This is totally unaccepatable, but also pretty stupid, as I will simply keep re-registering until the moderators see sense!

I am not aware of any rules that I have broken on this forum. Why don't u ban Enigma - how about a poll on the SA forum on this!!

:ohno: That's absolutely insane!! Enigma should definitely have been banned!

I wish to protest the total double standards displayed by the moderators of these forums!

Enigma is allowed to post lies and crap, provoke other particpants etc etc and he gets away with it, whilst I (formerly using handle Dave) am blocked, simply for responding to his pathetic anti SA propaganda. This is totally unaccepatable, but also pretty stupid, as I will simply keep re-registering until the moderators see sense!

I am not aware of any rules that I have broken on this forum. Why don't u ban Enigma - how about a poll on the SA forum on this!!

The reason why Enigma is allowed to post here is because he posts pictures. So even depsite the fact that he has the mental capacity of a child, his pictures have kept him from being banned.

my god beirut is like iran imo

see this and you will think differently

Beirut was called the "paris" of the Midle East