This thread may seem redundant, but here goes..

I have an odd habit of daydreaming where I'd like to live throughout Canada. Quite often it stems from perusing the MLS site to see what house prices are like across the country. A MapArt Canada Atlas helps alot too...

So what are the wierd places that you've considered moving to? Here's my list...

Prince Rupert

Yes, Prince Rupert. And this was before all of the talk about building a container port or a pipeline. Basically, it all started when I saw a news story about Fort St. John BC, where there is an extremely high employment rate. To make a long story short, my eyes kept going west to PR. It seems to me that Prince Rupert may be ready to start realizing a bit of the grand vision that was set out for the city so many years ago. And what a cool location.

My obsession lead me to reading PR city economic reports, scrounging photos from google, and viewing city maps. THE INTERNET IS A BIG WASTE OF TIME... sometimes.


Calgary

My sister-in-law lives there. I think I'd enjoy a house on the outskirts, within commuting distance, but within the foothills.. like near Kanaskskis Country. House prices are reasonable. And why not jump on the Alberta bandwagon? Seems like a good place to me..

My only reservation is that my passion for canoeing would be severely compromised... :(

Casselman, Ontario

Where? Google it, it's a little town in Eastern Ontario, which happens to be almost equidistant between Ottawa and Montreal.. not bad at all. And yes, I want to live in the country, but have to work in the city. I'll have my cake and eat it too, but no suburbs please. This is why I come up with wierd places like Casselman, and why my car has over 300k on it :P

Peterborough

Have you ever seen pictures of Peterborough? It's quite nice.

Manitoulin Island

... to live a bucolic, easy going life. My ancestors are from there.. it's a very special place. But what the hell would I do??


and finally...

Hamilton

Rock-bottom real estate prices, regular express GO service to downtown Toronto, central location (a 1 hour commute to the GTA, K/W region, Guelph, Niagara), dense urban core, inspiring natural location...

oh wait, I actually acted on that fantasy. Oops! Be careful what you wish for ;)

I have lived in Montreal and Vancouver, the only two other places I would consider are Toronto and Ottawa. Anything else is too small and unimportant for my liking.

I have lived in Montreal and Vancouver, the only two other places I would consider are Toronto and Ottawa. Anything else is too small and unimportant for my liking.

nothing wierd though? Come on, admit it... you'd love Flin Flon

^^

...Not sure I'm following.

Flin Flon!

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http://www.usask.ca/geology/classes/geol408/flinbanner.jpg

no Flin Flon? Maybe that was a bad example..

Or maybe I'm alone in this big, scary world...

Ok... I'll stop being cryptic and cut the bullshit. I'm an urbanist, but I also love the 'country', and I am forever fascinated with 'frontier'....

I'll guess your strictly an urbanist if anything less than Van, Ott, TO and Mont is not worth your time.

I have lived in Edmonton and Calgary. I would also consider Vancouver, but for only a few years (I have never liked Vancouver's weather). Perhaps Kelowna for my retirement. I don't ever intend on living anywhere east of Alberta, especially not in Quebec or the Maritimes.

I don't ever intend on living anywhere east of Alberta, especially not in Quebec or the Maritimes.

How hickish... or rather, Albertan.

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hey you two, please desist... this thread just started. I wouldn't want to live in Quebec or the Maritimes either, though I'm sure I'd be happy with both, and I love visiting both.

Well, no. I'd love to live in Montreal.

Citoyen.. could you remove those pics please?? It'll start a shitfest... I'm sure Boris550 didn't mean offense.

The GTA: West of Yonge St. Ideally if I had lots of money I'd like to buy a lot on the Niagara Escarpment in Milton and enjoy the absolutely SPECTACULAR view of the GTA. It is WOW. I envy the very few property owners that have houses there.
Calgary
Vancouver
Possibly Halifax

There are certain factors, economic or social, that would keep me from ever wanting to live in those areas of the country. Fine places to visit, just not to live. I would almost consider living near Toronto, but I don't really have any desire to go there when Calgary is going through an exciting transformation of its own.

citoyen: We certainly don't need any elitism and bigotry in here. I take particular offense to your 'too small and unimportant' comment, especially when I live in the nation's energy capital.

citoyen: We certainly don't need any elitism and bigotry in here. I take particular offense to your 'too small and unimportant' comment, especially when I live in the nation's energy capital.

Ooooh the nation's energy capital! All bow!!

I'd rather continue to live in the nation's historical and cultural capital. Its historical financial heart and the city from where our country was built.

I guess you like to surround yourself with 'energy,' whereas I prefer history, sophistication and culture.

oh fuck, why do I even bother

Alright... back on topic now...

Well, I have as of yet I've only lived in Saskatoon (12 years) and Regina (7 years)... and I like both cities :)... I would prefer to continue living in either one (close to the Roughriders... I know they are somewhat shitty right now, but I'm a loyal fan and would really miss going to the games).

Having said that, if I had to move I wouldn't mind:

Montreal... seems like a great place, and a bit more anglophone friendly than Quebec City.

Edmonton and Calgary are alright, but aren't anywhere near the top of places I would want to live.

Ottawa... seems like a nice place, and a cousin of mine recent moved there and is loving it.

Toronto would be alright... but I would probably want to live moreso in a smaller-city part of it, like Mississauga. I've grown up in smaller-medium sized cities and like that aspect of it.

Well there is my list... If I have my way I will stay in Saskatchewan (low cost of living is really nice :)), but if necessary I would move elsewhere, Montreal being at the top of the list.

^ I could live in Saskatchewan... it's a very underrated province.

What's Yorkton like? It looks intriguing.. on the map, that is.

I wouldn't move any where east of Alberta my self .
Osoyoos ( climate & Geography ) , Vancouver ( Climate , ocean and mass construction) Kelowna ,( climate , Geography , and close to home )
Edmonton ( work , construction , and economy ) Calgary ( work , construction and economy ) . Thats about it .

I would never give up Vancouver for any Canadian city. But... If I had to...
Victoria
Kelowna
Ottawa
Somewhere in the GTA
Montreal

Montreal or Toronto.

I cant see myself living in other small towns like Calgary or Edmonton with the likes of Boris.

Montreal or Toronto.

I cant see myself living in other small towns like Calgary or Edmonton with the likes of Boris.
LOL... Small town Calgary?

Great topic, algonquin!

I really like the Maritimes. I love the ocean, and the people there are so friendly. I always want to go back to visit or settle there some time. Well, maybe when I retire.

In Québec, I have a dream of living on the Northern Coast of the Gulf of St Lawrence or Gaspé... You see, I really love the ocean, though the weather can be quite extreme up there.

I've seriously considered moving to Southwestern Ontario. I've lived there for a couple of years, and many of my friends are still there. Plus, Stratford, one of my favourite Canadian towns, is in the region.

In the West, I've only been to Vancouver. I think Ì like Calgary or Victoria more though.

LOL... Small town Calgary?

with small people like Boris, you get small towns.

Ooooh the nation's energy capital! All bow!!

I'd rather continue to live in the nation's historical and cultural capital. Its historical financial heart and the city from where our country was built.

I guess you like to surround yourself with 'energy,' whereas I prefer history, sophistication and culture.
Wasn't that Qcity?

oh fuck, why do I even bother
You are a joker. :baaa:

QC city was never a center of trade like Montreal was, MTL geographical location was a big plus that pushed it forward faster than QC.

Don't they teach you these things in grade 10? or they only tell you that people landed from a helicopter to create York/Toronto?

^ I could live in Saskatchewan... it's a very underrated province.

What's Yorkton like? It looks intriguing.. on the map, that is.

Well, it's a small place... Haven't been there too much... I've been in the area many many times though (my grandma used to live in a small town around there).

Anyway if you like Ukrainians you'd like it there :tongue2:... I think that area is around 50% Ukrainian.

Well, it's a small place... Haven't been there too much... I've been in the area many many times (my grandma used to live in a small town around there).

Anyway if you like Ukrainians you'd like it there :tongue2:... I think that area is around 50% Ukrainian.

You've just interested me in visiting Saskatchewan. I'm about 1/3 Ukrainian.

Another very Ukrainian town is Viking, AB.

if i wanna live in canada i will live in one of the major cities:
Toronto,Vancouver,Montral,Ottawa,Regina,Calgary,Edmonton,Victoria, or Halifax.

I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in Canada, but I guess if I had to choose, then Victoria or the Okanagan.

the only cities in Canada I've considered moving to are, in no random order...

-Halifax, -Montreal, -Toronto, -Oakville, -Calgary

QC city was never a center of trade like Montreal was, MTL geographical location was a big plus that pushed it forward faster than QC.

Don't they teach you these things in grade 10? or they only tell you that people landed from a helicopter to create York/Toronto?

Actually History in grade ten starts at the beginning of WWI.

I said that because the tour guide made it seem that way when I went.

P.S. Drop the age shit.

You've just interested me in visiting Saskatchewan. I'm about 1/3 Ukrainian.

Another very Ukrainian town is Viking, AB.

I'd say Vegreville more than Viking ;)... afterall it is the home of one of the largest Ukrainian festivals in Canada (The others being in Saskatoon, Dauphin(Manitoba), and Toronto)... and home to the largest pysanka in the world:

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(changed picture for a better size comparison)

^ That's very true. I guess Viking was the first thing that popped into my head because that's where most of my gramps (pure Ukrainian) family was born and at which they still have family reunions.

Never been to either myself but I love that giant pysanka in Vegreville.

EDIT: Actually the only prairie town that I've been to that starts with a V is Vulcan, AB.

^ That's very true. I guess Viking was the first thing that popped into my head because that's where most of my gramps (pure Ukrainian) family was born and at which they still have family reunions.

Never been to either myself but I love that giant pysanka in Vegreville.

Yeah my moms side(pure Ukrainian), is from the Yorkton, Canora, Rama, Buchanan area of Saskatchewan. I think it is the most densely Ukrainian area in Canada... although I may be mistaken there.

Image from Canora :tongue2:
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It's a great place to visit, but for me it's too small to live in. I could make a go of it if there was a city Regina's or Saskatoon's size nearby... but Saskatoon is around 4 hours away, and Regina around 3 I believe.

http://www.roadsideattractions.ca/canora.jpg

^^ Haha, Ukrainians just love roadside attractions!

Yeah, small prairie towns can be fun to visit, but not that great to live in. Saskatoon certainly looks like a nice city, although I'm not so sure I would want to live in Regina. My only concern about moving to Saskatoon/Regina would be that the job market is hotter here.

EDIT: BTW, I'm inspired now. I'm going to build a giant steel perogie and put it up on my parent's front lawn.

Vancouver, I have relatives there
Calgary, we almost moved there with one of my moms friedns, but we decided not to
Atikokan/Kashibowie, because we're from there
Sault Ste. Marie because my grandparents live there

Unfortunately, I'm stuck in Thunder Bay. It's better than Atikokan or Saul Ste Marie though.

I have lived in and would live in Vancouver, Victoria and Nanaimo! I most definatly love too visit other places in Canada but only in the summer months! If Montreal did not have a winter I would live there also! After that Sydney,Austrialia or San Francisco

Regionalism in itself is harmless enough. One should certainly be proud of where they're from... but the childish, baseless, ignorant, and completely uncalled for insults that have been thrown around in this thread are embarrassing to read. I really hope you're all quite pleased with yourselves; I'm genuinely offended by all who partook.

Back on topic, I've spent some time abroad, and will spend more, but I also plan to travel all around Canada after I've finished university. Specifically, I have wonderful childhood memories of summers in Québec (cottage country)... back when my French wasn't so bad. I'm studying French again, and plan to finally spend some quality time in La Belle Province. I'm looking for a place that is quaint, historical, and not Montréal, Québec City, or Gatineau. Can any of our Québécois posters suggest a place that fits that criteria?

I love Vancouver to much to move. Today I ran in a 12km run and tonight I had a snowball fight on top of a mountain with a view of spectacular downtown; its true what they say, you can golf, sail and ski all on the same day.

I have thought about living in Kelowna, the lake and mountains are so nice. I would also live in Quebec City or Montreal, if I could speak french.

Regionalism in itself is harmless enough. One should certainly be proud of where they're from... but the childish, baseless, ignorant, and completely uncalled for insults that have been thrown around in this thread are embarrassing to read. I really hope you're all quite pleased with yourselves; I'm genuinely offended by all who partook.

Back on topic, I've spent some time abroad, and will spend more, but I also plan to travel all around Canada after I've finished university. Specifically, I have wonderful childhood memories of summers in Québec (cottage country)... back when my French wasn't so bad. I'm studying French again, and plan to finally spend some quality time in La Belle Province. I'm looking for a place that is quaint, historical, and not Montréal, Québec City, or Gatineau. Can any of our Québécois posters suggest a place that fits that criteria?
I did not really see the same childish, baseless,ignorant,and completely uncalled for insults in this thread. I did however see regionalism which is fine. Everyone has an opinion and everyone is entitled too an opinion. I myself have spent time abroad also adding too the fact there are other places I would enjoy too live outside of Canada.
Perhaps you can articulate what offended you so we can help you in understanding our decisions?

i've lived in PRINCE RUPERT, BC. born in Prince Rupert Regional Hospital. lived there for 16yrs.

but i've also lived on van isl. in black creek in the comox valley between campbell river and courtenay/comox.

but now i live in victoria.

i was concidering edmonton/calgary/lethbridge/toronto, but i don't know. i think bc is my home.

I could see myself living in Victoria, Vancouver, Toronto, or Montreal.

I don't feel at home in Alberta. The "culture" there just bugs me. As for Saskatchewan and Manitoba, I've never been but I've never really wanted to either. The Maritimes...they're pretty and yada yada, but I can't see myself living there.

You're not alone Algonquin. Casselman is growing so fast, with tons of commuters going everyday to work in Ottawa (and some even to Montréal). They recently got a lot of retail development to match the growing population (rumors of a Wal-Mart!). If you want halfway between Montréal and Ottawa, I'd tell you to move to Alexandria. Another beautiful town that's not quite as suburbanized.

My list:
Toronto (lived there)
Ottawa (lived there)
Montréal, I would live there in a minute, but my French isn't good enough to get a job. Or the chances are harder anyway.
Vancouver
Calgary
Halifax

Everyone has an opinion and everyone is entitled too an opinion.

That's one cliché that I've never really cared for. Some opinions can be validated, while others can be proven to be ignorant and ill-formed. We're all entitled to have an opinion, of course (in fact, it's impossible to avoid having opinions), but that doesn't mean our opinions are above being questioned or disputed.


I myself have spent time abroad also adding too the fact there are other places I would enjoy too live outside of Canada.

I seem to miss what you were trying to accomplish with this statement. Maybe my mentioning that I spent time abroad was extraneous to the topic at hand, and if that's the case, I apologize. But I was speaking of the last couple of years... and yeah, I quite enjoyed living outside of Canada. So we see eye to eye on this one.


I did not really see the same childish, baseless,ignorant,and completely uncalled for insults in this thread...

Here goes:

How hickish... or rather, Albertan.
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with small people like Boris, you get small towns.
[neener, neener!]

Don't they teach you these things in grade 10? or they only tell you that people landed from a helicopter to create York/Toronto?
[nice, condescending delivery]

Ooooh the nation's energy capital! All bow!!
[and so forth]

We must not have been looking at the same thread... unless you consider the above conversation to be the height of sophistication and class.


I did however see regionalism which is fine.

Didn't I open my post with "regionalism is harmless enough"? I do think it is harmless - perhaps even "fine" - albeit a little silly when people try to assert the superiority of their own region... especially when they try to do so whilst aware that people from other regions are present. Life is too short for that sort of drivel.


PS: Strange how it's the sole work of a couple of Montrealers to which I was forced to make reference. It's a shame that such a great city has been so poorly represented in this thread...

For me it's Victoria, Nanaimo, Vancouver, Kamloops, Kelowna, London, Stratford and especially Niagara-On-the-Lake.

How so?

Victoria's summer's are warm & dry with low humidity. Lots of culture, good museums, nice harbor, good parks with nice residential areas. Pretty much the only part of Canada with Gary Oaks. The city is unique in Canada for its British look. Dominion Observatory, Buchart Gardens. The countryside is hilly and yields get views. Some nice condo developments are going up. Very low unemployment rate. Along with the Gulf Islands this place is rather bohemian. Victoria's natural beauty cannot be denied.

Nanaimo: Beautiful harbor front with long walkway along it. Some nice condos along the harbor. Climate similar to Victoria's, but the real estate here is much cheaper. More people need to check this place out.

Vancouver: People already have heard more than enough about this city. I like it for its natural beauty and wonderful summer climate. Places like Harrison Lake, Cultus Lake, Bridal Falls, Deep Cove, Princess Elizabeth park, Stanley park, and so many other places in the Vancouver area just does it for me. In 2006 this city will have Canada's strongest housing building boom.

Kamloops: This place is unique in Canada. Residential areas are located on very hilly terrain. The city actually looks hot and dry, with tumble weeds, like it belongs somewhere in Arizona. It has very hot and dry summers - at least for Canada. Much of the city looks down at the Thompson Valley/river. Kamloops is near the Adam's River which is world famous for its salmon runs. The river gets so filled with salmon that it turns red. I find the place intriging.

Kelowna: Right in the center of the magnificent Okanagan Valley - one of North America's most beautiful regions. Great weather especially in the spring/summer. The place is also rather dry - but not as dry as Kamloops. The Okanagan has over 50 wineries. Some of them are in extremely beautiful settings. The "Mission Hill" winery has to be seen to be believed. It's setting has to be one of the most beautiful in the world - not just Canada - for a winery. It's located on the top of an extinct volcano overlooking Lake Okanagan. The wine cellar was dynamited out of the rock. Tourists from the US and Europe were checking the place out when I was there.

I should add that Kelowna is surprisingly bohemian. Lots of art and culture - amazing for its population.

London: Great city for its size. Nice architecture and nice parks. Close to the beaches of both Lake Huron and Lake Erie. I wish my home town of Waterloo was more like London.

Stratford: What a gorgeous small city. Big on culture (Shakespeare Festival), architecture and nice parks. It's small, but it is close to both K/W and London.

Niagara-On-the-Lake: A small town, but it's awesome beauty cannot be denied. I love the vineyards, orchards, the culture and the historical significance.

I was also extremely impressed with Quebec City: Clean, pretty, and the history - awesome! It's not exactly English-language friendly so I would never live there.

I would also consider Ottawa. Looks like a great city too.

Ahh probably Vancouver or Montreal

That's one cliché that I've never really cared for. Some opinions can be validated, while others can be proven to be ignorant and ill-formed. We're all entitled to have an opinion, of course (in fact, it's impossible to avoid having opinions), but that doesn't mean our opinions are above being questioned or disputed.


Good points; I like to say that we all have a right to our opinions, but we don't have any right to our own separate set of facts. Too may people like to present their views (opinions) as the facts on an issue.

I've been to pretty much every major Canadian city (except Winnipeg, anything North of Edmonton, and anything east of Quebec) and many small towns in between. I've enjoyed visiting most of them but to live, I think I would rather enjoy living in Stratford or Montreal... but my large Hong Kong culture is a necessity so it's Vancouver or Toronto for me. =D (outside Canada I wouln't mind moving back to HK or living in Syndey/Melbourne for a couple of years)

BTW... Edmonton also has a lot of Ukrainians.

I lived in Vancouver for nearly 10 years and would never live there again.
Victoria is lovely and I live in the most bohemian small setting in Canada, SaltSpring Island.
Calgary and Edmonton are OK but the crime rates of all the praries concerns me as does the Alberta conservativism.
I would go to Halifax, St.John's, Montreal, Ottawa, or Kingston.
Having said all this, I just love Ontario and if my family hadn't moved out here I would go back to Ontario in a hearbeat.
My home town of London or Stratford, Guelph, Peterborough, or the Niagara area.
That all said, this is behind my favorite Canadian city, Toronto.

WOW, I can't beleive I missed the wonderful town of Nelson BC.
In short, basically I am an southern Ontario boy. Quite frankly, I find Ontario the most socially diverse province in the country, byfar. Ottawa and Montreal are truly great cities and could definatly get into living in Montreal but only for a short time.
For me, Ontario has the most to offer.

Well, it's a small place... Haven't been there too much... I've been in the area many many times though (my grandma used to live in a small town around there).

Anyway if you like Ukrainians you'd like it there :tongue2:... I think that area is around 50% Ukrainian.

sounds good to me... I think Ukranian women are hot :)

i've lived in PRINCE RUPERT, BC. born in Prince Rupert Regional Hospital. lived there for 16yrs.


So what do you think of my Prince Rupert obsession? Am I crazy? (did you catch the first post?)

@ Oberon and OceanMDX..

How could I forget Stratford? It probably has more 'culture' and fine cuisine per capita than any other town/city in the world.

For a city of only 30k, having a culinary school and the world reknown Stratford Festival is quite remarkable. And a beautiful city otherwise, lest I forget to mention.

I could live in any province in Canada for a short period of time, but not more than 5 years at a time, except for the north(anywhere that is farther north than 55N), as the winters in the south are already long and cold enough. :P

I've always wanted to live in Vancouver or Toronto for a few years, but I'd probably end up moving back to Regina. Home is where the heart is ;)

Ok first, here's the list of places I have lived in Canada:

Scarbourough, Ontario
Sackville, Nova Scotia
Timmins, Ontario
Missisauga, Ontario
Calgary, Alberta
Moncton, New Brunswick
Surrey, British Columbia
Saint John, New Brunswick
London, Ontario
Vancouver, British Columbia

After having lived in all parts of the country, I wouldnt move anywhere else than where I am now. I have come to the realization that Vancouver is the best place to be and that's why I stay here.

Possible considerations would be White Rock, Victoria, Tofino, Kelowna, or Osoyoos. The rest of Canada is too cold for me to be quite honest. I can't stand snow and ice for extended periods of time!

London - A nice city near my house and I have a lot of friends from school who live there, so I wouldn't have a shortage of friends to chill with.

Calgary - Just like the city when I went.

Vancouver - I was born there might return.

So what do you think of my Prince Rupert obsession? Am I crazy? (did you catch the first post?)



lol. that's why i put it down in caps...haha.

well, to tell you the truth, i'm not a fan of rupert myself, just some stuff happened. but, people seem to love the place, so i'm not too suprised. it's a really beautiful place when it's not raining.

^^I love rain though :D... maybe I should consider it :tongue2:

How could I forget Stratford? It probably has more 'culture' and fine cuisine per capita than any other town/city in the world.

For a city of only 30k, having a culinary school and the world reknown Stratford Festival is quite remarkable. And a beautiful city otherwise, lest I forget to mention.
Whoa, easy there! I moved to Stratford from the GTA for the affordable real estate and the charm, and cannot complain about that, but the restaurant scene? It's undoubtedly unique in Canada for a city of 30K, but if you need to eat Asian food (and really, from Turkey to Japan and all points between, is there any other kind?) this place is a wasteland, and Kitchener is 40 minutes down the road. There's no shortage of faux-Italian 50-dollar-plate "culinary creations" for the benefit of the Michigan bluehairs here to see a few plays, to be sure. But once you've had the expensive pizza at Pazzo's and the expensive and snootily-served wasabi mashed potatoes at Down the Street and the bland shepherd's pie at Bentley's, you've pretty much had it all.

As for the ambience, there are two Stratfords: once you get past the arty 5% of the population involved with the theatre, this place is essentially a hockey-loving, Tim Hortons and McDonald's-noshing, pickup truck-driving factory town that shops almost exclusively along the commercial strip at the edge of town. Downtown is for tourists and the occasional meal at a restaurant.

"I'm sure Boris550 didn't mean offense"

That's where you'Re wrong...he did mean to offend, always has and always will!

^^ Jesus, what's with some of these Montrealers? You have a big chip on you shoulders.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/GilGrissomCSI/potter_o_rly_owl.jpg

^^The argument is long over... why dredge it up again? Just let it die.

Id be willing to try almost anywhere in Canada for a little while.

I could see my self living in Montreal for a little while.

That's one cliché that I've never really cared for. Some opinions can be validated, while others can be proven to be ignorant and ill-formed. We're all entitled to have an opinion, of course (in fact, it's impossible to avoid having opinions), but that doesn't mean our opinions are above being questioned or disputed.




I seem to miss what you were trying to accomplish with this statement. Maybe my mentioning that I spent time abroad was extraneous to the topic at hand, and if that's the case, I apologize. But I was speaking of the last couple of years... and yeah, I quite enjoyed living outside of Canada. So we see eye to eye on this one.




Here goes:


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[neener, neener!]


[nice, condescending delivery]


[and so forth]

We must not have been looking at the same thread... unless you consider the above conversation to be the height of sophistication and class.




Didn't I open my post with "regionalism is harmless enough"? I do think it is harmless - perhaps even "fine" - albeit a little silly when people try to assert the superiority of their own region... especially when they try to do so whilst aware that people from other regions are present. Life is too short for that sort of drivel.


PS: Strange how it's the sole work of a couple of Montrealers to which I was forced to make reference. It's a shame that such a great city has been so poorly represented in this thread...
Thank you for your answer. I certainly respect the time as well as effort you put forth. I was either too used too such things or just plain lazy or tired at the time to respect your first post on this matter to research myself.
I certainly agree with your statement about opinions are not above being questioned! While some can be validated and others can be proven ignorant or ill- informed.
I however have always respected opinions either good or bad because it is a strong point in understanding someones personality. The saying about one insult towards someone else, will brings three back is very true.
My intent is not too hijack such a wonderful thread but too answer a person I should have not questioned in the first place! :)

Toronto (done that, liked downtown but don't suggest Willowdale)
Vancouver (did that, a pot addiction made me leave)
Ottawa (home, escaped that)
Calgary (was great till it hit -30 after a nice period of chinook then I got on a plane OUT)
KW (great if your married or whoreship car ownship, but it kills any single person's sex life)
London (great married town. A less Americanized KW with Ottawa's order and quiet)
Kelowna (maybe when I'm 50)
Victoria (maybe when I'm 40)
Edmonton (maybe when I learn to embrace winter and LOVE IT)
Halifax (could handle it there with good job)
Winnipeg (could handle it there with lotto winnings, a warm mansion and frequent trips south)
Montreal (when I quite being English, a change of name might help, pros: locals don't believe in foreplay...might be the next appropriate move after KW really)
St. Johns (a beauty...good job and marriage would have to draw)

Actually most Canadian cities are livable. Now if only I could take Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver mix it in a blender with a dash of Victoria's pace and temperates - that be MY perfect city. Oh, wait - lets give my city Kelowna's rainfall and populate it with people from the friendly maritimes who totally lack morals. There's my city!

Overseas my city be Melbourne. Its a softer, greener version of Toronto and I like the streetcars and villages that all have a different feel to them. Also, its the most Canadian city in the world, not located in Canada. It doesn't have the Aussie feel of Brissie or Sydney. Melbourne's anywhere in the world depending what part of town your in.

Vancouver (did that, a pot addiction made me leave)


LOL

wouldn't a pot addiction make you stay??

sorry, I had to say it. Is pot really that prevelant in Vancouver? I've heard it has that reputation, but I wouldn't know personally.

LOL

wouldn't a pot addiction make you stay??

sorry, I had to say it. Is pot really that prevelant in Vancouver? I've heard it has that reputation, but I wouldn't know personally.

I don't know about Vancouver (despite having been to Vancouver many times I've only been downtown once) but I see it (or rather, smell it) everywhere when I am in Kelowna. Damn near everyone must smoke pot there!

LOL

wouldn't a pot addiction make you stay??

sorry, I had to say it. Is pot really that prevelant in Vancouver? I've heard it has that reputation, but I wouldn't know personally.


Oh yeah. It's land of the dial-up. LOL Then there's the Pot Block and Wreck Beach. It's everywhere! It's much more in your face then in other Canadian cities, though BC in general is much the same. They have it in KW too but the weeds shit and you can't smoke in front of McDonalds with the same level of confidence. Jesus, if you were seen smoking weed in Kitchener you'd get dirty looks. In Vancouver you only get dirty looks for smoking cigarettes!!

In Vancouver you only get dirty looks for smoking cigarettes!!

truly paradise, isn't it?

I'd love to live in Calgary.

Canada is truly blessed having such wonderful and diverse cities.
There are many cities I would love to live in but only for a while. If I was told my next move would be my only then I'm Ontario bound.
Ottawa is beautiful but too damn cold and tons of snow, much more than the south.
There are many beautiful towns and small cities in Ontario but as for cities it would be one of three....{not in any order}.........Guelph, London, Toronto.

I'm living in London now for school but am looking forward to moving back to Windsor. It's great living in a small city but having all the amenities of a big city right next door.

The West Coast would be nice, except for the cost. I still like Ottawa the best; the greenspace makes a huge difference from living in the GTA. I can't stand driving down the 401 for ages with house after house after house. Plus, it's a rural city and I like that (many small towns and large farmland areas, not all urban).

Also, it's nice that the downtown is still so small. You aren't lost in the urbanity like in DC, TO, and NYC. Anyone can just drive up Nicholas, and you're right in the thick of things, it's not some far-removed place. It's a smaller city, yet it does have culture (Byward Market). Plus, the canal in the winter!

I'm thinking of going to McGill for grad school, Montreal is great!

I would move to Yellowknife for sure...for real

^^ Jesus, what's with some of these Montrealers? You have a big chip on you shoulders.
No chip here. I'm saying it how i've seen it for the past few years.

I would move to Yellowknife for sure...for real

Due to diamond mining, Yellowknife is booming. Real estate is becoming so expensive that people have to live in trailers - and even those are very expensive.

Due to diamond mining, Yellowknife is booming. Real estate is becoming so expensive that people have to live in trailers - and even those are very expensive.
Ft McMurray must be even worse for housing. I recently saw a couple programs and articles on this, and the population of 60,000 is expected to grow possibly to 100,000 in a few years. The average income is something around $91,000, and average rent is about $1100.

As for where I've considered living, it would be Vancouver, St.John's, Toronto, Calgary, Montreal, & Halifax - in that order. Montreal would be higher on the list if I was fluent in French.

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Prince Rupert

Yes, Prince Rupert. And this was before all of the talk about building a container port or a pipeline. Basically, it all started when I saw a news story about Fort St. John BC, where there is an extremely high employment rate. To make a long story short, my eyes kept going west to PR. It seems to me that Prince Rupert may be ready to start realizing a bit of the grand vision that was set out for the city so many years ago. And what a cool location.

believe me u dont wanna live in PR im from up north about an hour and 1/2 away and i know from expierence that its not the greatest place in canada it probably rains more than anyother city in canada and its got gang problems which is pretty rare for a city of its size. the lots for houses arent that nice alot of rock u'll never have a nice big lawn there's no good employment at the moment but that'll change with the port and pipeline. but its not all bad they have the best seafood at smiles resturant if i was u i'd go bout 120km east to terrace :)

Ft McMurray must be even worse for housing. I recently saw a couple programs and articles on this, and the population of 60,000 is expected to grow possibly to 100,000 in a few years. The average income is something around $91,000, and average rent is about $1100.


One of the major problems with Ft. McMurray is that it is lacking in infrastructure.

There's some people in my classes at University that are originally from Ft. McMurray and they HATE the place.

Ft McMurray must be even worse for housing. I recently saw a couple programs and articles on this, and the population of 60,000 is expected to grow possibly to 100,000 in a few years. The average income is something around $91,000, and average rent is about $1100.


just curious, is that 91k per dwelling or per worker.

I don't know about Vancouver (despite having been to Vancouver many times I've only been downtown once) but I see it (or rather, smell it) everywhere when I am in Kelowna. Damn near everyone must smoke pot there!

Thats not true, although most people in Vancouver have smoked pot and alot of people smoke it occationally only a few smoke it habitually. It is just more exceptable to smoke pot in Vancouver, its hardly a city of constantly stoned people.

Thats not true, although most people in Vancouver have smoked pot and alot of people smoke it occationally only a few smoke it habitually. It is just more exceptable to smoke pot in Vancouver, its hardly a city of constantly stoned people.

Ummmm... that's why I said I don't know about Vancouver. ;)

I would love to live in any part of Canada, even Quebec as I think its magnificent French Canadian culture is an asset to our great country!!! :cheers:

I wouldn't mind living in Montreal and Quebec for a while...

Overall, though, probably TO. I mean how could anyone not want to live in the 'centre of the universe'. ;)

EVERWHERE

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True enough.
Canada is blessed having so many great and diverse cities.
All that said, either where I am, SaltSpring Island BC, Nelson BC, or southern Ontario { prob, London, Guelph, Toronto}.

Cities i have lived in:

- Ottawa, ON (home)
- Nepean, ON (former city of)
- Toronto, ON (Current)

Where would i like to live?

- Calgary, AB (dont know about the weather tho)
- Edmonton, AB (see above, but multiply it by 2)
- Montreal, QC (too bad i dont speak french)
- St Catherines, ON (close to Hamilton, Toronto and Buffalo)
- Oakville, ON (perfect suburb to live when you marry - nice downtown for suburbia)

Toronto (friends and sister there)
Ottawa (sister used to live there)
Edmonton (dad and two half-siblings live there)
Halifax (appeals to me)
Victoria (ditto)
Kingston (just really like that town)
Guelph (similar to Kingston)
Peterborough (similar to North Bay)

I have to laugh, no one wants to live in K-W, it has the fastest growing economy in Canada. I guess RIM has to force people to move there kicking and screaming. LOL.

I have to laugh, no one wants to live in K-W, it has the fastest growing economy in Canada. I guess RIM has to force people to move there kicking and screaming. LOL.

Oh KW attracts. Unfortunately all it attacks is a bunch of BREEDERS. Its 2.2 kiddie hell with the greatest percentage of little shits in Canada. Its full of kids!!

I'm sure all the RIM nerds are breeders anyway. I pity the poor gay nerd that moves to KW. 'I'm sure some get fooled by the name of the company' Either that or maybe suburban bliss with 2.2 dogs will suffice.

Then there's also that issue that 'hi-tech' and world class excitement don't necessary go hand in hand. San Jose - oh ah.... Kanata Oh I'm getting hotter. Brampton Oh stop it! Maybe K-W doesn't look so bad afterall.

Where people would like to live and where they actually live are often too different things. Some places are great to visit but suck to live in. Believe me a crappy job market takes the shine off any paradise; after awhile it won't look so good. It's like when I lived in Sydney (great to visit for a few days) or Melbourne, the better of the two for livability - way ahead!!

Overall I'd rather live in the city thats more livable then the city thats great for tourists and weekend visits. Then again I'm a practical virgo so unlike others I think differently when I look at a place. Its not a case of whether I like but could I tolerate living here? Anyway, Kitchener has Toronto only 1hr away so to say Kitchener is boring is to say the person is boring or is affraid of the vast 1hr communte. There are suburbs of Toronto of equal distance to Kitchener. Try taking the Go-bus to Newmarket.

All around K-W you also have some of the most beautiful countryside in Canada and very charming communities like St Jacobs, Elmira, New Hamburg, Stratford....the list goes on and on. I think the real problem is most people know nothing about Kitchener. Its not a tourist mecca and most people think like tourist. The city can be anything you want it too be. If you want boring, it will be boring, you want to be a big city crack ho, Fairview can subsititude for Jane & Finch. However, the one thing it has over most cities. Its got balance to it and just about everything is at your doorstep. I think this is why it appeals to family. Its like your dead but your close enough to escape if you want. Regardless for quality of life its up there.

I think the problem with Kitchener is its lack of a downtown.
It has no centre, soul, and meeting place. Kitchener is just kinda there. Waterlou is kinda pretty and Guelph very much so as is Stratford. Like mentioned before many nice towns around it but Kitchener just seems to be a lot of houses connected by the ConestogaParkway.
I'd take London ANY day of the week.

I like London too. Kitchener used to have its heart downtown, but when the industries downtown abandoned their plants, and nothing came in to fill the void, downtown Kitchener - and Waterloo to a lesser extent - went to shit. Fortunately, this is beginning to change.

how about: where there is a job :)

I would live in Hamilton or Calgary, but if I spoke french I would consider Montreal or Quebec City for a short time.

Lately though, my satisfaction with living in Canada has waned. It might be time to move back to Europe and try to pick up where I left of 15 years ago.

^^ How so? What don't you like?

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Prince Rupert

Yes, Prince Rupert. And this was before all of the talk about building a container port or a pipeline. Basically, it all started when I saw a news story about Fort St. John BC, where there is an extremely high employment rate. To make a long story short, my eyes kept going west to PR. It seems to me that Prince Rupert may be ready to start realizing a bit of the grand vision that was set out for the city so many years ago. And what a cool location.

believe me u dont wanna live in PR im from up north about an hour and 1/2 away and i know from expierence that its not the greatest place in canada it probably rains more than anyother city in canada and its got gang problems which is pretty rare for a city of its size. the lots for houses arent that nice alot of rock u'll never have a nice big lawn there's no good employment at the moment but that'll change with the port and pipeline. but its not all bad they have the best seafood at smiles resturant if i was u i'd go bout 120km east to terrace :)


you're from terrace....do i know you? my cousins own mackay's funeral home.

^^ How so? What don't you like?

1) Too cold (even Vancouver)
2) Healthcare is no longer better here then in my country of origin
3) Lack of faith in Canada's future as a country (read the equalization thread)
4) Few relatives present
5) General lack of feeling like I belong

Those are a few things that come to mind. If you want, PM me about it and I will go more into details.

^^ where are u from originally?

believe me u dont wanna live in PR im from up north about an hour and 1/2 away and i know from expierence that its not the greatest place in canada it probably rains more than anyother city in canada and its got gang problems which is pretty rare for a city of its size. the lots for houses arent that nice alot of rock u'll never have a nice big lawn there's no good employment at the moment but that'll change with the port and pipeline. but its not all bad they have the best seafood at smiles resturant if i was u i'd go bout 120km east to terrace :)

but I like lots of rock.. I was born in Sudbury

Rock is great.. you never have to cut it, and it's never greener on the other side

The only places I've considered living are cities in Ontario.

St. Catharines because of Brock University
Kingston because it's great
Ottawa another great city
Burlington yea I thought about Burlington because of a job that I got recently but ah no thanks I rather buy a car and drive from Hamilton to Burlington each morning.

EDIT: Wrong thread

EDIT: wrong thread

you're from terrace....do i know you? my cousins own mackay's funeral home.

yea im from terrace left 5 yrs ago in feb. but sorry i dont know a jarrod in terrace

There is one place that I think we all can agree on that we have wanted to live!


Dildo, Newfoundland, truely god country!

http://www.aroundthebay.ca/profile/Dildo/dil.asp


because Toronto's CN Tower just isn't enough!

Terrace (spit!).

Heheh, that's what you get when you type Terrace at the HTMF forum anyway. :)

Anyways, are there houses for sale in Terrace that has a price tag of over $500 000? I'm pretty sure Rupert has quite a few.

^ a lot of the houses in rupert that were over half a million now are lower then that.

oh yeah, i'm not from terrace, i'm originally from rupert.

over 500k in Rupert? I never saw any of that on MLS.... houses seemed to peak just under 200k. At least the ones for sale, of course.

How about coming to Saskatchewan people :D... it's a balmy -19 (-30 with the windchill) right now in Regina :). And by friday it's supposed to be +2... yay for shorts weather :tongue2:

And by friday it's supposed to be +2... yay for shorts weather :tongue2:
I hope you're just kidding! :uh:

^ a lot of the houses in rupert that were over half a million now are lower then that.

oh yeah, i'm not from terrace, i'm originally from rupert.

I don't know exact prices. But my street is all $250 000 - $350 000 price range houses. And this is not near Atlin. I can think of one house at the top of my head worth at least $350 000 on Atlin (with water view) and four or five levels (I think?). To compare, my house is two levels with no attic or basement. Plus, I have a lot of friends who live on Atlin and their houses look like they could pass for a million.

The last two years property taxes have been a rip off because of the rebound in price.

EDIT: However, there are a lot more less expensive houses too, so that's why the "average" home price is no higher than $200 000.

How about coming to Saskatchewan people :D... it's a balmy -19 (-30 with the windchill) right now in Regina :). And by friday it's supposed to be +2... yay for shorts weather :tongue2:

I was scoping out Saskatoon, Prince Albert, and the Lac La Ronge area, if it makes you feel better :)

I hope you're just kidding! :uh:

Somewhat :D... in autumn/winter if it is 2, then ppl will most likely be bundled up anyway (although not nearly as heavy as when it is -20), but in the spring +2 is starting to be shorts/light jacket weather. I see people around university (who don't live in dorms) walking around in shorts. ;) We're a crazy bunch.

- Calgary, AB (dont know about the weather tho)
- Edmonton, AB (see above, but multiply it by 2)

/\ You don't even have to multiply it by two, both cities weather-wise are too close to contrast.....basically, they both get cold during the winter.

But it's not as cold as many seem to believe. I've spent many winters in SW Ontario (Waterloo) and Toronto and lakes make it feel real chilly. A -15 day in Toronto is very comparable to a -20 day in Edmonton. Most of the Prairies are a dryer cold.

I've spent many winters in SW Ontario (Waterloo) and Toronto and lakes make it feel real chilly. A -15 day in Toronto is very comparable to a -20 day in Edmonton. Most of the Prairies are a dryer cold.
Hey, I went to school out west, and people love to say that. Thing is, a place with a "dry cold" like Winnipeg gets 75 days per winter where it gets below -20, and many of those days go down to -30, while the days "above" -15 are still between -5 and -15. Toronto only reaches -15 on about 14 days or so. You can look it up.

Montreal, Toronto, or Vancouver
or somewhere remote and ruggid in Newfoundland/Labrador

my list
1) Vancouver
2) Toronto
3) Halifax
4) Montreal
5) Ottawa
6) Calgary
7) Edmonton
8) Kitchener/Waterloo
9) Quebec city
10) Hamilton (well, i am living here already :) and it's a nice place)