This site should be used to discuss skyscrapers, not politics. Respect one-anothers opinions whether for or against seperation, but this site is for skyscraper talk. Every time someone attempts to talk about seperation, some moron will say something completely stupid that will make english speaking Canada seem ridiculous or vise versa. Too often outside sources, people in the US with no facts whatsoever will make some of the most bizarre comments that aren't worth reading.

Lets all be mature, respect oneanother and talk skyscrapers. This is an opportunity to discuss Montreal, Quebec city, Sherbrooke, Laval, Trois Rivieres etc. SKYSCRAPERS. .......if you don't have anything valuable to contribute to this discussion on skyscrapers drop it. DON'T STIR THE SHIT no more anamosity damn it!!!!

^ I agree, politics ruin everything...
A world without any governments/politics would be great.
A world without skyscrapers would be sprawlsville... :tongue2:

good now lets post some projects :)

Does anyone know what's new?
Proposed?
Approved?
Under Construction?
Under Renovation?

Proposal:



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November 10, 2005
8 Cheshvan, 5766

Israeli company launches $300-million real estate project


By JANICE ARNOLD
Staff Reporter

MONTREAL – The intersection of Thimens and Cavendish Boulevards at the outer edge of developed Ville St. Laurent is dominated by anonymous high-rises and strip malls.

But Israeli real estate developer Jacob Engel can look to the time when this will, he hopes, be one of the most desirable addresses in the Montreal area

Engel is founder and president of the Engel Group, which began 30 years ago as a modest contracting firm and has grown into one of Israel’s largest real estate companies.

He was in Montreal last week to inaugurate three luxury condominium projects, with a total of 1,000 units.

Together, they represent an investment expected to reach $300 million, the company says. The New York-based investment bank Lehman Brothers is a 50 per cent partner.

Engel believes that currently, Montreal is the best place in North America to invest in real estate, even though prices have risen sharply and some think the condo market is reaching saturation.

On this St. Laurent site will rise Le Quartier Parisien, a four-building complex surrounding a private park. Eventually, two seniors’ residences may be added. A block further north is where Trianon sur le Golf, a lower-rise complex of three buildings in a U-shape will be constructed, fronting on a golf course.

The first phases of both are scheduled to be completed by December 2005 or early 2006.

The jewel in Engel’s crown, though, is Le Chagall, which will be built in Cote St. Luc. The twin 17-storey towers will be the tallest structures in the area. The top four floors will be penthouses, constructed in a pyramid shape to afford the best views.

The latter is being marketed specifically to the Jewish community and may have such features as double-sink kitchens and Shabbat elevators, if the demand is sufficient, said Engel.

Le Chagall’s services are being stressed, such as its spa, 24-hour concierge and small ground-floor units that can be rented out to owners’ visitors.

The Engel Group has already invested about $100,000 million in Montreal- area commercial properties since the end of 2001. Its holdings include the Montenach Mall in South Shore Beloeil, the big-box Rona store on Cote Vertu Boulevard, and two office buildings on Ste. Catherine Street.

Engel, a Technion mechanical engineering graduate, said the company plans to spend another $200 million building condos in Montreal over the next few years, but has not decided on the locations.

This is Engel’s first foray into North America. In Israel, the Herzliya-based company has developed industrial, commercial and residential properties throughout the country.

Over the past decade it has built entire neighbourhoods all over Israel that have sold for more than $2 billion. It has also taken on a number of public projects such as the new wing for the Knesset, and a terminal at Ben-Gurion International Airport. The Engel Group’s four divisions are public companies listed on the Israeli and Nasdaq stock exchanges.

In the last few years, Engel has branched out internationally, and has residential and commercial real estate in Prague, Budapest and Warsaw, and an office in Belgrade. The general manager for Canada, Oded Fainaro, is based in Boston, but says he is in Montreal every week.

Engel firmly believes that Montreal real estate still has great potential, and that prices have not peaked as he thinks they have in the United States and the major urban areas of the rest of Canada.

“A few years ago, it was thought Toronto was more secure. But we don’t think so. With Lehman Brothers, we did in-depth research of the Montreal market.”

He is satisfied that the economy is healthy and the political situation stable, something he does not believe Europe offers at the moment.

Moreover, Montrealers are still switching from their traditionally high rate of renting to home ownership, and, of course, mortgage rates remain low.

Both St. Laurent and Cote St. Luc have a large demographic of empty-nesters, who Engel thinks want to sell family houses and move into a condo. They may not want to go downtown, however, and give up the amenities they are used to, or leave the Jewish community.

Le Chagall’s prices range from about $255,000 (taxes included) for 1,100 square feet, which includes one indoor parking space and a locker, to $491,000 for 2,730 square feet. Construction is to begin this summer on Marc Chagall Avenue, which is off the eastern end of Kildare Road, and will take about 14 months.

The St. Laurent condos are selling for less, but are also smaller on average, starting at $159,000 and going up to $270,000.

A reception was recently held at the sales office of Le Quartier Parisien, which on the outside looks like a large construction shack. Inside, though, is a replica of one of the penthouses, fully furnished and with chandeliers hanging from its 12-foot-high ceiling.

“We are not just coming from the outside and saying this is what we have to offer. We are listening to what people want and working to meet their needs,” Engel said.

The company has hired local professionals such as architect Karl Fischer and design expert Johanne Morency, rather than use its own staff.
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LE QUARTIER PARISIEN

560 residential units to be built in six buildings placed in a square shape in the area of Ville St. Laurent. The project consists of a large interior court yard offering lots of green space and landscaping, providing the atmosphere of a "small village" complex, making it distinct development within a desirable location.



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LE CHAGALL

191 residential units to be built in two luxurious buildings in the exclusive Cote St-Luc area of Montreal. The two towers, comprising of 17 floors each, with 4-storey penthouses levels are the tallest buildings in the area hence providing a unique advantage of.

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Proposal:

Corner De Maisoneuve and Drummond

A "new" 21 story boutique hotel with executive suites in conjunction with the Lord Stephan Mansion, one of the most famous private clubs / residences in the world. The combined facility will have a spa, business center, restaurants, wine cellar, smoking lounges as well as an outdoor pool. Completion 2007



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I love that Hotel!

that will look great!.....I love the look of Lord Stephan Mansion, this building will complement it beautifully....old meets new, but the contrast is subtle considering what could have been proposed.

VERY NICE INDEED!

I also like it...but it seems that i'm in the minority most of the Montrealers on SSP don'T like it...bunch of whiny bastards!!

sure beats madhatters ;)

Under Construction:

A massive condo building, old style. near the Palais des Congres:

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Just opposite to it and under construction:

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Not too far from these 2:

Under Construction, Le Saint-Antoine, 400 units (!!!!!), 400 parking interior parking spaces (!!!!!!!!!)

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a view of this area.

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underconstruction:

Les Beaux Arts on Sherbrooke blvd.

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thats soem good infil projects and will add even more density! Have their bben any plans or even rumors of a new "supertall" in montreal in the near future,

yes there has been, but I guess everyone waits that the unoccupied % space goes further more. We're at 10% I think, down from 14%.

Office space for downtown has a vacancy rate of 9.3% and it's going down...which is always a good thing. However there are still some good opportunities for Tenants. Also net rents will have to go over teh 25$ mark before we can see anything new go up! Currently Net rents average about 21 to 22 $ per sq.foot.

For quality Class "A" space, you should pay approx. 45 to 50$ per square foot(gross rent) in montreal right now!

Its good to see at least some construction going up, which is much better than the 90s, Hopefully we will see a 60s style boom again(not of that periods architecture but of that size)

Lots of great infill. Love it.

Montreal seems to have such good scale and quality to its building while Toronto and especially Vancouver seem pre-occupied with glass boxes.

Proposal:

Corner De Maisoneuve and Drummond

A "new" 21 story boutique hotel with executive suites in conjunction with the Lord Stephan Mansion, one of the most famous private clubs / residences in the world. The combined facility will have a spa, business center, restaurants, wine cellar, smoking lounges as well as an outdoor pool. Completion 2007



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Incredible