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Thessaloniki, the second largest city in Greece and the capital of Macedonia, it is one of the oldest cities in Europe.
It stretches over twelve kilometers in a bowl formed by low hills facing a bay that opens into the Gulf Thermaikos.
It was founded about 315 B.C., on a site of old prehistoric settlements going back to 2300 B.C., by Cassander, King of Macedonia, and was named after
his wife, Thessaloniki, half-sister of Alexander The Great.

Since then, Thessaloniki has become the chief city of Macedonia and its most important commercial port.
In Roman times it was visited by Saint Paul, who preached the new religion, and who later addressed his two well-known epistles
(the oldest written documents of Christian literature) to the Christians of Thessaloniki.

http://www.travelinfo.gr/thessaloniki/thessaloniki-map.gif

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Outstanding post of an OUTSTANDING MAJOR EUROPEAN city!!!

Bravo Olympiad!!!

poli omorfi poli!!! mou aresi na do o kosmos perippatoun ekei!!!!

Incredible!
I just love this city!
Good job, Olympiad! :okay:

very nice city, good pics!!

Thessaloniki is one of my favorite cities. I always look forward to seeing threads that demostrate its beauty and character. The girls in Thessaloniki are pretty, too :)

city with architectonical pearls :okay:

Majevcan

One more aerial photo (Αερολέσχη Θεσσαλονίκης )

http://www.aeroclub-tsl.gr/Photos/city1.jpg

Thessaloniki looks really really nice. I think much better than Athens.
About the title of the thread however, I think that you might be making too much of the whole Macedonian issue. Sure, they are taking something which does not belong to them, but I do not think any somewhat intelligent person would think that Alexander was an ancestor of FYROM.

backdoorman Regarding the title of this thread:it might be meant as provocative for a foreigner but it has been always used long before the FYROM issue.We call Thessaloniki as "...capital of Macedonia " or "capital of northern Greece -Macedonia/Thrace".
That's all ,I suggest not to ruin another thread with that dispute...

Thessaloniki looks really really nice. I think much better than Athens.
About the title of the thread however, I think that you might be making too much of the whole Macedonian issue. Sure, they are taking something which does not belong to them, but I do not think any somewhat intelligent person would think that Alexander was an ancestor of FYROM.

Hi, backdoorman.

The thread title was not meant to provoke anybody, Thessaloniki has long been the capital of the region known as Macedonia. It is pointless to leave out that detail because of the wild claims of certain revisionists of history.

It is like having a thread regarding a concentration camp, without mentioning the holocaust because it may provoke a holocaust denier. (I am not comparing the two issues, just an example).

Anyway, I hope that you enjoyed the photographs.

:)

I misunderstood it. I knew of the region of Macedonia and Thrace in Greece, but I thoughtit implied more. Still, though I wasn't critical of the thread.

What do they teach you in geography lessons in Greece? The capital of Macedonia is Skopje! :D ;)

What do they teach you in geography lessons in Greece? The capital of Macedonia is Skopje! :D ;)

Monsieur le General
I supose you just want to play a little bit and that you dont really want to assault people here in the hellenic forum. :)

oh mon dieu... garçon méchant! someone in here has a bad taste of humor! ;)

Outstanding post of an OUTSTANDING MAJOR EUROPEAN city!!!

Bravo Olympiad!!!

Is that right? I thought Thessaloniki was situated in Afghanistan :|

Maybe because u forget this...
http://members.fortunecity.com/fstav1/thisdayofyear/thesaloniki1912.jpg
The Liberation of the town of Thessaloniki from the Turks in the 1st Balkan War against the Ottoman Empire.

cool pics men.. :cool: and some nice architecture too~ :okay:

Just two pictures I took yesterday.

Panorama of the harbour

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/Lucretious/34614/415427/0/thess+resized.jpg


Umbrellas by N. Zogolopoulos

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/Lucretious/34614/415426/0/100_8556+ed_filtered+downsized.jpg

The thread title was not meant to provoke anybody,
:)

Why do you apologize friend? Thessaloniki is indeed the capital of MACEDONIA and we need not apologize to anyone about it, nor fear provoking anyone by talking about Greece's province of MACEDONIA.

http://www.yitanee.com/yitanee-photos/Thessaloniki%202004/img%20Thessaloniki%202004_027.jpg

Quote Backdoorman:Thessaloniki looks really really nice. I think much better than Athens.
About the title of the thread however, I think that you might be making too much of the whole Macedonian issue. Sure, they are taking something which does not belong to them, but I do not think any somewhat intelligent person would think that Alexander was an ancestor of FYROM.
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Backdoorman<--name says it all, before you go making statements about other peoples history, read BOTH sides of the story. Yeah Salonika is and always was the capital of macedonia, but after the 1913 devision of macedonia amongst its three neighbours, new capitals were born. Republic of Macedonia is here to stay... do we claim ancient macedonian history, ofcourse we do because we are macedonians living on that territory and we are not greeks. Sorry to raise your blood pressure levels my "greek friends"... you havent gotten rid of me yet and every time i read you spitting on the macedonian identity, ill be back just so you dont say u havent been warned. Greece to the Greeks Bulgaria to the Bulgarians MACEDONIA TO THE MACEDONIANS!

MACEDONIA TO THE MACEDONIANS!


We already have it, you can't have it! But thanks for the request anyway!!!!

Ohhhh moderator????!!!????

cool areal view Geroplatanos!!

Backdoorman<--name says it all, before you go making statements about other peoples history, read BOTH sides of the story. Yeah Salonika is and always was the capital of macedonia, but after the 1913 devision of macedonia amongst its three neighbours, new capitals were born. Republic of Macedonia is here to stay... do we claim ancient macedonian history, ofcourse we do because we are macedonians living on that territory and we are not greeks. Sorry to raise your blood pressure levels my "greek friends"... you havent gotten rid of me yet and every time i read you spitting on the macedonian identity, ill be back just so you dont say u havent been warned. Greece to the Greeks Bulgaria to the Bulgarians MACEDONIA TO THE MACEDONIANS!

GreatSkopjan in the world we live today everybody makes claims.
Because you can make claims doesn't necesserily mean that you will get what you ask for. From your point of view the only thing i see you can win from this is humiliation of your country for claming Greek ancient history while being Slav.
:cheers: to that!

GreatSkopjan in the world we live today everybody makes claims.
Because you can make claims doesn't necesserily mean that you will get what you ask for. From your point of view the only thing i see you can win from this is humiliation of your country for claming Greek ancient history while being Slav.
:cheers: to that!


Amen to that JohnnyB!!!

This is all I have to add to GreatFyromians lunacy:


Read these FACTS and then realize how ridiculous you sound:

1) Yugoslavia was formerly known as the Kingdom of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. GreatFYROMIAN, what hapened to your slav friends, the so-called Macedonians? How come they are not part of the kingdom's title?

2) Macedonians were never considered a distinct identity of the slavic family, or branch, because they were considered Serbian. FYROMIANS use the Cyrillic alphabet just like Serbians&Montenegrins and were considered "southern Serbs" in what was part of the ex-Yugoslavian state. The Slovenes and the Croats use latin letters and were distinct even though Croats speak the same language as the Serbs while one group is Roman Catholic and the other is Orthodox. This is why the title name of Yugoslavia was the Kingdom of the Serbs,Croats and Slovenes. Nowhere is FYROM or the so-called "Republic of Macedonia" ever mentioned, anywhere!

3) FYROM was only created by Tito after the civil war. As a result, the so-called Macedonian state was created by a communist Yugoslavia. It is a pseudo state and it`s so-called Macedonian nationality's ties to Alexander are a total farse.


Case closed.

Do you know the meaning of 'assimilation'? 'genocide'? DENYING IDENTITY??? it wasnt just greeks that did this to us macedonians, serbs and bulgars did it to.. but heck its the 21st century and i have respect towards anyone who recognises me as what i am.. obviously most of you greeks dont, so all i have to say to you is make up your mind, am i a greatskopian? or greatfyromian? or greatslav?.. because you know what, you can call me what you like :) i know who i am and so does the whole world.

Ohh, and guess what else? your governments forced assimilation of the ethnic macedonians (non-greek) in greek-macedonia hasnt worked all that well... we still exist there.. check it out and then tell me greece is "ethnically pure" http://www.florina.org/

Do you know the meaning of 'assimilation'? 'genocide'? DENYING IDENTITY??? it wasnt just greeks that did this to us macedonians, serbs and bulgars did it to.. but heck its the 21st century and i have respect towards anyone who recognises me as what i am.. obviously most of you greeks dont, so all i have to say to you is make up your mind, am i a greatskopian? or greatfyromian? or greatslav?.. because you know what, you can call me what you like :) i know who i am and so does the whole world.

Ohh, and guess what else? your governments forced assimilation of the ethnic macedonians (non-greek) in greek-macedonia hasnt worked all that well... we still exist there.. check it out and then tell me greece is "ethnically pure" http://www.florina.org/


YAWN!!!

GreatSkopian, enjoy my friend.....

http://www.travel-to-thessaloniki.com/gallery_images/14.jpg

@Leaf mi tou apantas, afto theli,na aniksi kouventa kai na perasi tin propaganda tou.Ase pou katastrefete kai to thema.

@GreatMakedon. For the last time. Go somewhere else NOT here.This is the H.A
Go to the Eastern Europe forums and say everything you want.

Prometheus why do you asume that im from Skopje? Im from Ohrid :)

Salonicco (Thessaloniki) is very cool :)

Prometheus why do you asume that im from Skopje? Im from Ohrid :)
Ts ts ts, anyway... now stick to the subject and no more off-topics
( use the PM for this )

"GreatMakedon" do you consider yourself and your people as descendants of Alexander and Philip?

GrigorisSokratis, First of all i will tell you somthing everybody knows, that is that nobody can be a pure descendant of an ancient race. I dont claim to be an ancient macedonian, because modern macedonians, just like greeks and everyone else on earth, have mixed with many different "cultures" throughout history. I do howether feel that i carry a part of the ancient macedonian heritage. Why you ask? Simple: When the slavs and aromanians and others came to macedonia throughout history, they mixed with the ancient macedonians.. dont tell me the ancient macedonians flew away with the wind, or escaped to athens. When i speak of macedonia i mean macedonia as a whole geographical region, greek-macedonia Rep.of Macedonia and bulgarian macedonia undevided, because thats how it was until 1913. And please dont start that "crap" like 'most of ancient macedonia is in greece' <--well yeahh it is, but macedonians (non-greek) live in both macedonias, like they have since time immemorial. The thing is, your "democratic" nation doesnt recognise the macedonian minority in its own native land 'greek'-macedonia... oh wait, i just remembered, your Democratic republic of Greece (the birth of democracy i know) does not recognise any minorities within its borders, not even the turkish one. I can go on forever but i dont want to start an argument (i bet i already have).. im just answering Grigoris question people, i wont 'upset' you with the truth anymore.. yeh Salonika is Beautiful :)

I just wanted to say that Solun is great city, and that Macedonia is really great land. Of course we all know there's only one Macedonia.

Yes Pavle one macedonia, but devided and now there's two.. people dont understand that there is no true and false macedonia.. they are both macedonia.

Am i talking to a wall or what?


@ GrigorisSokratis, με συγχωρείς ρε φίλε μήπως ψάχνεις για φασαρίες; Εδώ κάνουμε αμάν για να κρατήσουμε την Αγορά «καθαρή»
Δεν είδες τη έγραψα παραπάνω;
no more off-topics


OK, the next one who will go off-topic on purpose ( you know who you are ) he will be reported.

Happy?

Ενταξει φιλε μου Κωνταντινουπολε, αλλα αυτοι οι Σλαβοι που αλλαζουν την ιστορια και κανουν αλλοι λαοι, να τους πιστεψουν με την καλοδημιουργημενη τους προπαγαντα. Δεν θα ηθελα σε 50 χρονια να ακουσω για εδαφικες διεκδικησεις και τετοια.

Τελος παντων μεινε ησυχος, επειδη δεν προκειται να ξαναμιλισω περι του θεματος εδω, αλλα επισης σε παρακαλω ας μην αφησουμε αυτους να ανοιξουνε τις φασαριες..

Yes Pavle one macedonia, but devided and now there's two.. people dont understand that there is no true and false macedonia.. they are both macedonia.

Okay, I agree with you about that. I just said that Macedonia's capital is beautiful. Don't be mad on me ;)

@ GrigorisSokratis εχεις Π.Μ

@ Rest, back to the topic

Hey, are there any news about the upcoming Metro system in Thessaloniki? Also anybody knows if it's going to be ready for the 2012 EURO?

No news at the moment like always the last 10-15 years.
But by the way why this "obsession" of Thessaloniki with Metro?
And lets say ok for the metro , what about this unbelievable underwater tunnel project?

Thessaloniki could have allread a nice LRT-tram system running all over the city but the people there were obsessed only with metro !

How about whole regions of greece who dont have adequate roads or railways or hospitals?
WHy we should spend so much money for something just because the last 10 years it is the "obsession" of people there?

Why they dont make more pedestrian zones ?why there are no plans for a big park and more green spaces?

Why everybody has "stuck" with these two projects the metro and the underwater tunnel?

traffic megale. The metro eases traffic, congestion and thus pollution.... but yes I agree with you.

No news at the moment like always the last 10-15 years.
But by the way why this "obsession" of Thessaloniki with Metro?
And lets say ok for the metro , what about this unbelievable underwater tunnel project?

Thessaloniki could have allread a nice LRT-tram system running all over the city but the people there were obsessed only with metro !

How about whole regions of greece who dont have adequate roads or railways or hospitals?
WHy we should spend so much money for something just because the last 10 years it is the "obsession" of people there?

Why they dont make more pedestrian zones ?why there are no plans for a big park and more green spaces?

Why everybody has "stuck" with these two projects the metro and the underwater tunnel?


I understand you, but you should understand that trams are past, metro is future. Take Belgrade for example, it has many, many tram lines, but still you can't go to city with car. And they have million of buses, who knows how many tram lines, trolleys...
Only metro can make people stop using cars, it's fast, clean, modern and cities with metro lines have much less problems with traffic.

I understand you, but you should understand that trams are past, metro is future. Take Belgrade for example, it has many, many tram lines, but still you can't go to city with car. And they have million of buses, who knows how many tram lines, trolleys...
Only metro can make people stop using cars, it's fast, clean, modern and cities with metro lines have much less problems with traffic.

Dear Pavle , probably you are right , a good subway system is surely the best solution!
But when there are other things in consideration (like funding/money , other priorities ) then we should also examine alternatives.
And in this case belongs thessaloniki
I did not know that about belgrade (the big traffic problem although there is a developed tram system) and anyway belgrade is bigger then thessaloniki and a capital of a country and for many other reasons should also have a metro (although with some improvements it could be not so necessary -> read my comments bollow) .

I believe that if there is a good planning and political "will" then even with tram+bus+suburban rail system it can work.
But of course under some conditions . For example the use of modern tram/train/bus vehicles . (statistics show that the more clean and modern a vehicle is it is prefered from the people)
Upgrade of the networks (so that the speed of the mass media is better , for example green wave for the tram , bus lanes for buses)
STOP to the cars in the center of the city (forcing the people to let the cars out and not making more parking lots in the center!!!-->like they do in thessaloniki)
Many and many ZONES for BICYCLES and PEDESTRIANS.

These are just some few basics.
Of course i would prefer all the above + metro system.
But we cant have them all (except if you are dubai and have money to spend)
So lets make an hierarchy of the needs first.
Lets make first the quality of the people better in other more basic fields and then to spend some millions of euros just for a shiny "only to show" metro which does not solve anything except gives satisfaction to the local politicians and other similar to them.
:)

Geroplatanos, look it has been proved worldwide that the Metro system is the best solution to traffic problems, also is cleaner and finally it would give some boost to employment as well as improving the economies of the serviced areas.

Just think about it.

PS: And I prefer to see how our taxes become into great infrastructure works like the Metro or the underwater tunnel, instead of swimming pools in the beautiful mansions and manors of the politicians.

Geroplatanos, look it has been proved worldwide that the Metro system is the best solution to traffic problems, also is cleaner and finally it would give some boost to employment as well as improving the economies of the serviced areas.

Just think about it.

PS: And I prefer to see how our taxes become into great infrastructure works like the Metro or the underwater tunnel, instead of swimming pools in the beautiful mansions and manors of the politicians.

Dear Grigorisokrati , please read carefully my post , I DONT disagree with that , it is like you say OBVIOUS and proved that the METRO is the best solution.

PS: I would prefer first to have basic things (like good roads and railways and airports and schools and hospitals EVERYWHERE ( in epirus,sterea ellada,crete,peloponnisos, islands ) and then to talk about superexpensive projects just for copying athens.
(and for sure i agree with you that every project is better then beautiful mansions of politicians).
To metro einai apla to kollima ths thessalonikis giayto tosa xronia the proothisan oute kati allo enallaktiko (px estw kainouria levforeia ).
΄Οσο για την υποθαλάσσια.... απαράδεκτο...
Εφέ και πάλι εφέ για το τίποτα.
Και θα στοιχήσει ο κούκος αηδόνι!!! :)
Ας κοιτάξουν λιγάκι να ξε-μπετονιάσουν τη θεσσαλονίκη , κακό δεν κάνει.

Well I think I got good news for Kalamata since there's a possibility that a tram system will be constructed in that Peloponissian town.

Well I think I got good news for Kalamata since there's a possibility that a tram system will be constructed in that Peloponissian town.

Grigori Kalamata is really one of the few cities which although it has a small population (~60,000) it has a study in an advanced level.
They should go for it! :)

tis fotografies tis eida pou tis evale o lucretius sta stadia.gr kai ipa mias kai ehoume to thread edo as ta prosvaloume

this are new additional buildings from the campus of aristotle university in Thessaloniki

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/Lucretious/35281/423679/0/auth3.jpg

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/Lucretious/35281/423677/0/auth1.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/Lucretious/35281/423675/0/arc2.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/Lucretious/35281/423693/0/phil1.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/Lucretious/35281/423694/0/phil2.jpg
this is the National library in Thessaloniki
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/Lucretious/35281/423688/0/mlib+1.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/Lucretious/35281/423689/0/mlib+2.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/Lucretious/35281/423690/0/mlib+3.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/Lucretious/35281/423691/0/ymca.jpg

I like the library and the university of Tessalonica (this is the Portuguese name to this city :)) lowride but with a good taste.

:okay: Very interesting contribution George and a bravo to Lucretius for the pics.

poli oreia poli!!!!!!

Btw, άκουσε κανείς τίποτα νέα για μετρό/υποθαλάσσια? Κάτι άκουσα ότι τα έργα θα ξεκινήσουν το 2006....εχμ, όπως και πέρσυ για το 2005 δηλαδή... anyway, έλεγε σε 4 χρόνια υποθαλάσσια και σε 6 μετρό(Ειδήσεις ΑΝΤ1...)!....ΤΩΡΑ γελάστε.

As everybody who has been here for a while knows, I usually post pics of Athens (my hometown) and the islands of Greece. Greece's 2nd largest city is Thessaloniki and it is the economic, cultural, and strategic center of northern Greece and the rest of the Balkans. It is a beautiful city, so below I have posted some highlights:


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http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/9461/paintedceiling.jpg

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http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/4380/dcp_1902-wide-thessa-plein-.jpg

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http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/3631/whitetower.jpg

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Nice pics.The buildings look good.

Nice pics.The buildings look good.


Thanks Icy! :cheers:

Although Thessaloniki also has many areas of the 1970's "cement jungle" like Athens, it has managed to maintain many of its older buildings and has many nice areas as the pics show.

Outstanding photos!!! Thessaloniki is definitely one of the most beautiful cities in Greece. The architecture of this city is really nice and many older buildings have been saved and renovated. A must see for all those visiting Greece. Thanks for sharing these photos with us.

Beautiful architectural structures.This city really looks cool.

Wow Great photos Leafs. I love Thessaloniki. I visit it when I can.

Where do you find all those amazing photos?

Πολύ ωραίες οι φωτογραφίες :okay:

Thanks for the nice pics, hope to visit the city this year.
Which is the best and cheapest way to reach Tsniki from Athens (plane, train, bus)?
Thanks

Hallo Juan!

If you can afford it, its better to fly

NEVERTHELESS, I always go by train, using the intercity link that has about 3 stops between Athens and Thesaloniki.

this is the timetable
Athens-Thesaloniki timetable (http://www.ose.gr/%282000641430845399%29/ecPage.asp?page=dromologia.asp&lang=2)

The best choice, depending on you of course is to use the ICE services

It takes about 5 hours and costs about 50-70 euros return. I would choose this because it offers some fantastic scenery on the way to thesaloniki.

can you put me in contat with cris is the box of wanzza bar on thessaloniki. is a god friend but I lost the nomber telefone. www.josecallado.com or kayado9@hotmail.com thanks a lot.

Look at the density...

http://img184.echo.cx/img184/3615/thes10kh.jpg

When I look pictures of cities, my vigilant eye looks for signs of highrises on the horizon -damn I'm good in this, when I was a child, in order to discover the Athenian residential ones that were lost in the endless Athens suburbia , I learned how to look for vertical structural protrusions of tips of tall builings amidst homogeneously flat constructions.

Now, with regards to the above picture of Thessaloniki, if one looks to the upper left part of the picture s/he will see signs of highrise existence (in parallel to the expression "signs of alien activity" used by UFO researchers :lol: ) So, I took the time to magnify this part of the picture, sharpen it, and the result, the best that I could come up with, looked something like this:

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22634/36693/442459/0/Thessaloniki+3-unknown+highrises.jpg

So, looks something is there.

Now, I have been lucky to be given a couple of pictures from kostya, one of our forumers fromm Thessaloniki. These pics were originally posted by kostya in stadia.gr. but I found it extremely useful to post them hereNothing special, except from their hisrotic value, ladies and gentlemen first presentation in this forum of Thessaloniki highrises

|So, for the first time in Skyscrapercity.com, here are the West Thessaloniki Commieblocks, courtesy of our forumer Kostya: :applause: :applause:

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22634/36693/442475/0/Thessaloniki+commieblock_1.jpg


http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22634/36693/442476/0/Thessaloniki+commieblock_2.jpg

Needless to say that these buildings were probably built during the early times of military dictatorship (look late 60's - early 70's to me) so don't expect any aesthetic value, just a primary notion of height hidden in their modernistic designs...

I understand why Athens Dosent Have Highrises, but why dosent Thessaloniki? It does have a population of nearly 1 mill dont it?

Is there no Demand Here?

Συγγνώμη αγαπητέ gm αλλά αυτά τα κτήρια είναι από τα πιο άσχημα που έχω δει ποτέ!!!!!!!
ΑΙΣΧΟΣ! :(
Τσιμεντενια κουτιά του 70 με ταρατσες γεμάτες κεραίες!!
Αυτά κατέστρεψαν την Αθήνα και όλες τις υπόλοιπες πόλεις της Ελλάδας!!!

Geroplatanos: Έλα ρε, σήμερα την έχουν δει και μάγκες, φτιάχνουν 5όροφα κουτιά, με μια κεραία πάνω για όλους και πιάνουν filmnet κλπ από έναν αποκωδικοποιητή...μάγκας ο Έλληνας :sleepy: (άσχετο αυτό) :jk:
Όσο για τα κτήρια, σίγουρα είναι άσχημα αλλά είναι commieblocks...Δεν είναι αυτά που κατέστρεψαν την Αθήνα και τις υπολοιπες πόλεις(υπάρχουν και αλλού?) , αυτά άφησαν χώρο για πράσινο, μεγαλύτερα πεζοδρόμια, πάρκα, γήπεδα κλπ! Αν μπορέσω θα βγάλω φωτό και θα δεις πως αυτή η περιοχή μπορεί να είναι γεμάτη φτηνές κατασκευές όμως είναι μες το πράσινο, έχει 2 σχολεία, ακριβώς μπροστά ένα γήπεδο ποδοσφαίρου(ερασιτεχνικό φυσικά), παντού πάρκα, γήπεδα μπάσκετ κλπ...Εκεί που θέλω να καταλήξω είναι ότι η κατάσκευη ψηλών κτηριών βοηθάει στο να έχουμε όλοι μας καλύτερη ποιότητα ζωής κατα την γνώμη μου. Φυσικά μπορούμε να χτίσουμε καλύτερης ποιότητας από αυτά, όταν φυσικά αποβάλλουμε το κόμπλεξ του ύψους.

Thanks for posting gm :okay:

1. Έχει γεμίσει η Αθήνα με 15όροφα κτίρια και δεν το ξέρω; Η Θεσσαλονίκη μήπως; Που είναι οι εκατοντάδες ουρανοξυστών που κατέστρεψαν τις μεγλάλες πόλεις της Ελλάδας; Γιατί εγώ βλέπω ότι είμαστε τόσο αυνάνες που κατορθώσαμε το ακατόρθωτο: Να πνιγούμε στο τσιμέντο με κτίρια των 5 και 7 ορόφων και στην άσφαλτο χωρίς ουτε ουρανοξύστες αλλά ούτε και μεγάλους δρόμους να έχουμε... ΤΟ σούργελο :lol:

2. Και να πώ ότι έστω, δεν χτίσαμε ψηλά, τουλάχιστον χτισαμε μεγάλα και μακρυά κτίρια, ούτε και αυτό κάναμε. Οπότε παιδιά, save it. Από τη στιγμή που χρειάστηκε ένας Καλατράβα να μας διδάξει το μεγάλο και ωραίο και το αληθινό γιατι εμείς σταθήκαμε ανίκανοι ΚΑΙ το 50 (ξέρω, μεταπολεμική φτώχεια ), ΚΑΙ το 60, ΚΑΙ το 70 και το 80 (ήλθε και ο σοσιαλισμός με τις ανοησίες των "πεζοδρόμων" και των "ανθρώπινων κλιμάκων" σε μια πόλη των 3,5 εκ τότε και των 5 σήμερα και φτάσαμε τη δεκαετία του 90 να πραγματοποιούμε μελέτες της δεκαετιας του 60 :lol: ). Νομίζετε ότι το μετρό, το αεροδρόμιο στα Σπάτα και την Αττική οδό τη σκαρφίστηκαν οι άχρηστοι και οι ΑΛΗΤΕΣ της μεταπολίτευσης σας γελάσανε κύριοι :D:D:D:D.

Αυτό είναι το αίσχος φίλτατε γεροπλάτανε, το ότι η Αθήνα μοιάζει με μεγαλοχώρι και όχι με πόλη... Προλαβαίνουμε βέβαια θα μου πείτε, έχουν μείνει κανα-δυο οικόπεδα σε κανα-δυο περιοχές που προλαβαίνουμε να τα διαμορφώσουμε σε κάτι που θα μας κάνει υπερήφανους και ούτε σε σωμόν "μεζονέτες", ουτε σε ρηχά "συγκροτήματα κατοικιών", ούτε σε γυάλινα "συγκροτήματα γραφέίων" των 5... ορόφων που στο εξωτερικό τα εχουν για να στεγάζουν το... θυρωρείο των κυριως εταιρικών κτιρίων που και ύψος έχουν, και ωραιο αρχιτεκτονικό ύφος έχουν, και οι κάτοικοι των πόλεων που τα φιλοξενούν είναι υπερήφανοι γι' αυτά.

Έλεος βρε παιδιά, ένα-δυο των 30-40 ορόφων στο Μαρούσι και την Πυλαία, απλά για να δούμε πως είναι... Στο κάτω-κάτω είναι πιο εμπνευσμένης αρχιτεκτονικης τα διασκεδαστήρια-αποβλακωτήρια με τις δεκάδες αίθουσες που χτίζονται σωρηδόν και που προβλέπω τα μισά τουλάχιστον σε λίγα χρόνια να βαράνε μύγες...

Όσο για τη Θεσσαλονίκη: ΘΕΛΩ ΤΩΡΑ να γκρεμιστεί αυτός ο κοντός πύργος της τηλεόρασης στη ΔΕΘ που έχει να δεχτεί το κοινό από τον καιρό του Νώε (και που όλο τον επισκευάζουν ) και να αντικατασταθεί από ένα καινούριο "ΠΥΡΓΟ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ" με το ίδιο ή παρόμοιο σχέδιο και 250-300μ ύψους, και με ένα δίδυμο Ολυμπιακό πύργο στο Μαρούσι. Αυτό αξίζει στην νύμφη του Θερμαϊκού και την πόλη της Παλλάδος και τα υπόλοιπα είναι αυνανίες.

Βασικά, αυτός ο πύργος για ποιόν λόγο είχε χτιστεί? ξέρει κανείς? Να χτίζεται κάτι τύπου tv-tower(βλ. Ostankino(Moscow) / Fernsehturm(Berlin) / Oriental Pearl TV Tower(Shanghai)...φυσικά όχι ίδιου ύψους :hahaha: , σε μια πόλη που το αμέσως επόμενο ψηλότερο κτήριο να έχει δωδεκα πατώματα δεν μου φαίνεται λογικό...ίσως για λόγους εντυπωσιασμού. Συνήθιζουμε να τον λέμε "Πύργος του ΟΤΕ" αν και εμένα μου φαίνεται εγκαταλελημένος...

http://www.thessalonikicity.gr/eikones/photos-sygxrones-1/sygxrones_egolpion-architektoniki3.jpg

http://59dim-thess.thess.sch.gr/ote.jpg


Για τις πόλεις γενικά...Θα έπρεπα να υπάρχουν συγκροτήματα κατοικιών(ΝΑΙ πολυκατοικίες-commieblocks) που δεν θα έχουν απο κάτω κάθε είδους μαγαζάκι...απορώ δηλαδή ποιός ηλίθιος επέτρεψε να γεμίσει κάθε γώνια κάθε προαστίου με ψιλικατζίδικα και γυράδικα και δε ξέρω και γω με τι για να μπορεί ο ελληναρας να σαβουρώνει όπου βρει και να θυμάται το χωριο του :sleepy:
Το θυμήθηκα και εκνευρίστηκα sorry. :bash:

Re pedia iremiste esis mou fenete oti thelete na mas katadikasete na zoume se polykatoikies ton 30 , 40 , 50 kai 1150 orofon. Den nomizo oti mou aresi i idea !!!
Pithanon ta high rises pou protinete na teriazoune gia grafia oxi omos kai gia katoikies. Oi sigxrones poleis tou exoterikou alloste, me orismenes exeresis, diathetoun katoikimenes perioxes me diorofa i to poly trirofa ktiria ta opia exoun kai avles gia louloudakia kai elefteherous xorous gia na paizoun ta paidakia :) . Poleis opos to Londino i Nea Yorki kai to Parisi i kai Verolino me plithismnous kata poly megaliterous apo tis Athinas exoune frontisi na diathetoun anthropines katoikies gia tous polites to poly trion tessaron orofon. Se autes tis Poleis ta ktiria pou ine psylotera apo auta diatithonte se anergous, metanastes kai genika polites xamilon eisodimaton. Autes einai katoikies pou miazoune me autes tis polykatoikies tis Thessalonikis kai theorounte apo olous, akoma kai apo tous aporous, sxedon akataliles gia axioprepi diaviosi.

Diafono loipon mazi sas afou den theoro oti to na xtisoume psila ktiria gia katoikisi tha lisi to provlima xorou, antitheta pistevo oti mporei oxi mono na to epidinosi alla tautoxrona na miosi akoma perisotero ti poiotita zois stis Ellinikes poleis.

Εντάξει παιδιά ( kostya και gm2263 ) έχει καταντήσει κουραστικό και αποκρουστικό.

Μην βγει κανένας και πει ότι δεν συμφωνεί με την λογική των ψηλών κτηρίων, αμέσως αρχίζετε των χλευασμό και την ειρωνεία.

Και όχι μόνο αυτό,αλλά μιλάτε συνεχώς περι ελληναραδων και Ελλάδας.

Εσείς δεν είστε μέρος της ελληνικής κοινωνίας; Γιατί με την πρώτη ευκαιρία μιλάτε με λόγια περιφρονητικά εναντίον των συνανθρώπων σας;

Δείξτε σεβασμό στον συνομιλητή σας.Σας τα λέω αυτά όχι για να σας φέρω σε δύσκολη θέση αλλά για να σας υπενθυμίσω ότι η εμπάθεια ( μια μορφή του κακού ) δεν πρόκειται να σας οδηγήσει πουθενά.

Μόνο με πνεύμα αγάπης λύνονται όλα τα προβλήματα.

Φιλικά.

Για να βάλουμε τα πράγματα στη θέση τους:

1. Ούτε εγώ θα συμφωνούσα με την κατασκευή ψηλών κτιρίων για κατοικίες και το έχω δηλώσει επανηλλημένα. Δεν γνωρίζω προσωπικά γιατι δεν έχω ασχοληθεί με το θέμα ποιά είναι τα ακριβή αποτελέσματα της μαζικοποίησης ΧΙΛΙΑΔΩΝ ατόμων στις χώρες του πρώην "υπαρκτού" σοσιαλισμού. Το σίγουρο είναι ότι στη Δύση (και υπάρχουν πάμπολλες σχετικές έρευνες από ότι ξέρω ), κάποιες απόπειρες που έγιναν και στις ΗΠΑ αλλά και σε μικρότερη φυσικά κλίμακα στην Δυτική Ευρώπη (Αγγλία, Γαλλία, Ολλανδία κα ) τα αποτελέσματα υπήρξαν απογοητευτικά αν και κατα πολλούς δεν φταίει η μαζικοπίηση αυτή καθαυτή όσο το γεγονός ότι τα συγκροτήματα αυτά (Council flats, habitations a loyer modérées ) απευθύνονταν εξ' αρχής σε κοινωνικά απόκληρους οι οποίοι στοιβάζονταν σε ακατάλληλους χώρους με πολύ φτηνές προδιαγραφές, οπότε φαίνεται ότι το παιχνίδι ήταν εξ' αρχής χαμένο.

Από την άλλη, υπάρχουν κάποια αντίθετα παραδείγματα όπως πχ. αυτά που έχω πρόχειρα από τη γειτονική Τουρκία όπως η η συνοικία Bahcesehir στις παρυφές της Κωνσταντινούπολης (βλέπε φωτό παρακάτω ) ή ακόμα η περιοχή της κοιλάδας Dikmen (http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=149156) στην Άγκυρα.

-Βahcesehir

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/32785/394572/0/Istanbul+Bahcesehir+-+1.jpg

Οπότε με βάση τα όσα βλέπουμε, δεν είναι το ύψος που παίζει ρόλο αλλά η φιλοσοφία της εφαρμογής του ύψους ή του μεγέθους στο περιβάλλον της πόλης. Ναι μεν πιστεύω ΚΑΙ ΕΓΩ ότι ίσως τα ψηλά κτίρια κατοικιών να μην είναι η ιδεώδης λύση για την Ελλάδα, δεν θα καταδίκαζα όμως την κατασκευή τους εκτός κέντρου με την ταυτόχρονη διαμόρφωση του περιβάλλοντος χώρου τους σε πάρκο. Στο κάτω-κάτω, κατα τη γνώμη μου, από τη στιγμή που κάποιος μένει σε όροφο αντί στο δικό του σπίτι, βράσε όρυζα. Άσε που καινούρια συγκροτήματα αυτού του τύπου, θα προσέφεραν ανέσεις και θέα που λίγα "συγκροτήματα κατοικιών" εκεί που είναι στριμωγμένα μπορούν να προσφέρουν...

Τώρα όσον αφορά τα σουβλατζίδικα και τα λοιπά, εδώ εξαρτάται ο βαθμός όχλησης στο περιβάλλον της κοινότητας στο οποίο βρίσκονται. Αλλά το αυτό ισχύει και για τις καφετέρειες και άλλες παρόμοιες οχλούσες δραστηριότητες. Τόσο απλά...

2. Συμφωνώ με τον Υδροχόο (είμαι κι' εγώ υδροχόος παναθεμα με ) ότι το ύψος είναι ο,τι πρέπει για κτίρια γραφείων... Σαν κτίρια γραφείων, οργανώνουν εν πολλοίς τις λειτουργίες μιας πόλης σε συνεκτικά συγκροτήματα λειτουργιών και δεν έχουμε το φαινόμενο της επιμειξίας αταίριαστων δραστηριοτήτων μεταξύ τους όπου στο Μαρούσι και αλλαχού όπως έχω γράψει χίλιες φορές έως τώρα παρατηρούνται άσχημα φαινόμενα όπου σε γειτονιές μπερδέυονται τα "συγκροτήματα" κατοικιών, με αταίριαστα κτίρια γραφείων που είναι επενδεδυμένα με γυαλί, σε περιοχές όπου καλώς ή κακώς είναι ακόμα γειτονιές και έτσι γίνεται ένα αλλαλούμ όπου γιαπηδες που κάνουν οφθαλμόλουτρο με τη νοικοικυρά στο διπλα διαμέρισμα του "συγκροτήματος κατοικιών" (παλιά τα λέγαμε "πολυκατοικίες" ) και πάει λέγοντας...

Χώρια το γεγονός ότι άλλες κυκλοφοριακές ανάγκες έχουν τα κτίρια γραφείων και άλλες τα κτίρια κατοικιών και φυσικά, όταν μπλέκονται τα μεν με τα δε, γίνεται κομφούζιο, εφόσον οι ανάγκες παρκαρίσματος των ενοίκων μιας πολυκατοικίας τεσσάρων ορόφοδιαμερισμάτων είναι 8 αυτοκίνητα στη χειρότερη περίπτωση ενώ για τα κτίρια γραφείων είναι τουλάχιστον 20 εφόσον έχεις τους εργαζόμενους, τους πελάτες, τους συναλλασσόμενους και τρέχα-γύρευε.

3. Όσον αφορά τα περι εμπαθείας, λόγω του ότι συμβαίνει να κατοικώ στην Ελλάδα και να με επηρεάζουν ορισμένα πράγματα, αισθάνομαι ότι οφείλω, να κάνω την κριτική μου και τον αγώνα μου για να αλλάξουν. Τα περι μη σεβασμού και χλευασμού των συνομιλητών μου τα αντιπαρέρχομαι ασχολίαστα γιατι δεν νομίζω ότι αντιπροσωπεύουν την πολιτεία μου εδώ μέσα. Μάλλον με μπερδεύεις με κάποιον άλλο φίλτατε Κων/πολις.

Αλλά και πάλι όλα είναι σχετικά και ο διάλογος μπορεί να συνεχιστεί επ' άπειρον...

Τέλως πάντων, παιδιά, έφαγα όλο το χρόνο μου για να λέω τα ΄'ιδια και τα ίδια. Ας βάλουμε καμμιά φωτό της Θεσσαλονίκης...

@ Kostya

O πύργος του ΟΤΕ κτίστηκε για την ΔΕΘ τη δεκαετία του 60. Μάλιστα, είναι γεγονός ότι οι πρώτες πειραματικές εκπομπές της Ελληνικής τηλεόρασης (ασπρόμαυρες τότε βέβαια ) έλαβαν χώρα εκεί το 1966 αν θυμάμαι καλά. Μαλιστα, τω πάλαι ποτέ είχε και ένα περιστρεφόμενο εστιατόριο εκεί αν θυμάμαι καλά. Τώρα, δεν ξέρω τι γίνεται και δυστυχώς, δεν έχω πάει στην Θεσσαλονίκη να δώ τι γίνεται εκεί πέρα. Κρίμα πάντως, από ότι ακούω, παραμένει υπό επισκευή χρόνια τώρα...

ΟΚ, για τις κατοικίες μπορεί να έχετε δίκιο, ούτε και γω θέλω 30+ ορόφους για κατοικία...μέχρι 20 :) . Έχει δίκιο ο gm που λέει ότι στον δυτικό κόσμο τα ψηλά κτήρια για κατοικίες χτίστηκαν για να στιβάξουν φτωχούς κυρίως χωρίς να δίνουν λύση στο πρόβλημα(ποίο απ'όλα?) . Είμαι της άποψης πως το κέντρο θα πρέπει να παραμείνει αρκετά *κοντό* ενω τα προάστια να είναι ψηλότερα, όχι Αμερικάνικου τύπου downtown, δεν μας πάει ;) . Απλά θέλω ουρανοξύστες στο Μαρούσι και στο Λιμάνι/Πυλαία, που δεν είναι κέντρο και ούτε θα επηρρεάσει αρνητικά με κανέναν τρόπο καμία θέα...Δηλάδη θα πείραζε πολύ κόσμο αν τέτοιου είδους κτήρια ήταν 10 ορόφους ψηλότερα?

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Τα οποία βρίσκονται στον περιφερειακό. Δεν λέμε να γκρεμίσουμε την Άθωνος για παράδειγμα και να χτίσουμε εκεί να κεντρικά της vodafone π.χ...Να παραμείνει το ιστορικό κέντρο( αν και έχουν γίνει εγκλήματα και εκεί :bash: ...) Προλαβάινουμε ακόμα να το σώσουμε...

Αυτά για τώρα :runaway:

Εντάξει παιδιά ( kostya και gm2263 ) έχει καταντήσει κουραστικό και αποκρουστικό.

Μην βγει κανένας και πει ότι δεν συμφωνεί με την λογική των ψηλών κτηρίων, αμέσως αρχίζετε των χλευασμό και την ειρωνεία.

Και όχι μόνο αυτό,αλλά μιλάτε συνεχώς περι ελληναραδων και Ελλάδας.

Εσείς δεν είστε μέρος της ελληνικής κοινωνίας; Γιατί με την πρώτη ευκαιρία μιλάτε με λόγια περιφρονητικά εναντίον των συνανθρώπων σας;

Δείξτε σεβασμό στον συνομιλητή σας.Σας τα λέω αυτά όχι για να σας φέρω σε δύσκολη θέση αλλά για να σας υπενθυμίσω ότι η εμπάθεια ( μια μορφή του κακού ) δεν πρόκειται να σας οδηγήσει πουθενά.

Μόνο με πνεύμα αγάπης λύνονται όλα τα προβλήματα.

Φιλικά.


Ίσως έχεις δίκιο σε αυτό που λες...Ήμουν υπερβολικός. ζητώ συγνώμη απ'όποιον θεωρεί πως τον πρόσβαλα.. :bowtie: :angel: :wallbash:

Ίσως έχεις δίκιο σε αυτό που λες...Ήμουν υπερβολικός. ζητώ συγνώμη απ'όποιον θεωρεί πως τον πρόσβαλα.. :bowtie: :angel: :wallbash:
Σε ευχαριστώ για τη κατανόηση φίλε kostya.

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Nice pix!!Thessaloniki....our sister in the lost expo 2008!

Definitely great pictures :okay: Thessaloniki is a really nice city of Greece and a gem, if you ask me. Haven't been there for many years, but I am sure the place looks just as good as it did during my last visit. Thanks for sharing these photos with us!!!

pics I took about two months ago......

enjoy


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another try...thanks for the advice about imageshack...

more......

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Welcome to skyscrapercity forum and to Hellenic Agora conqui69!
Thank you for the nice pics and i hope you enjoy the posts in our thread :)
May i ask you where do you live? Thessaloniki?

thanks for welcome Scaros, I think I sure will have fun here....

I live in Germany(Cologne) but I m greek....

i love this city.. thanks for nice pics.

Nice pics!

Uffffff!!! I loved them

Thank you!!!


I see it's still as beautifull as when I was there last time :)

By the way, I have lots of pics of Thess/nikh...I'll try to find time to post them

Excellent thread :okay: I am always appreciative of thread that show off this beautiful Greek city. I must admit that last time I visited was MANY years ago, but I can see that Thessaloniki remains just as beautiful as ever!!! Thanks for sharing your nice photos with us.

The pics aren't working now :cry:

no pics :dunno:

I can't see the pics either! :cry:

I was excited to see pictures of my home city

Pictures arent showing up.
Try rehosting them on www.imageshack.us

Yep. dead links. If possible re upload or whatever onto Imageshack.

I hope this time the pics are to see.....

beautiful :okay:

Beautiful waterfront ! :okay:

ill add this one of the waterfront:

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/4430/seafrontmoments9zu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is a pic of Thessaloniki's waterfront taken by me last April.

http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/5175/thess19040205yz.jpg

It is my first pic, I hope I'll have to time to upload more and more!

edit! 4 more pictures

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Hm. Nice photos guys.
Any night shots of the water front?

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oraies

very nice, thanks for all the pics :okay:

Thessaloniki was established in the times of Phillippos or Megas Alexandros, right?

It was established in 315 B.C. by King Kassandros of Macedon, who named it after his wife (Thessaloniki) who was also the sister of Alexander The Great. She (and the city) got her name from her father, King Filippos II of Macedon, to commemorate her birth on the day of his gaining a victory (niki) over the Thessalians. Thus the name Thessaloniki.

cool very well named by the king :yes:

click on the small images to see the real size of some newer ones

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and here are a couple of links for streaming videos of Thessaloniki in Christmass time so that you can check some of the pictures above in motion:

http://www.travel-to-thessaloniki.com/video/videobig.php?video_id=2

http://www.travel-to-thessaloniki.com/video/video.php?video_id=3


Cheers! :cheers:

and here are some of the sports facilities of Thessaloniki:

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http://www.stadia.gr/kaftanzoglio/kaftantzoglioworks3.jpg
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http://www.stadia.gr/toumba/toumba12th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/toumba/toumba17th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/toumba/toumba14th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/paok/kleisto_paok2.jpg
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http://www.stadia.gr/alexandrio/alexandrio6th.jpg
http://www.stadia.gr/alexandrio/alexandrio7th.jpg
http://www.sportmuseum.gr/photos/25.jpg
http://www.gothess.gr/fotos/030804a.jpg
http://www.athens2004.com/Images/Multimedia/thumbnails/look_08s_venue.jpg
http://www.ert.gr/aerialphoto/photos/big_new/stadia_gipeda/stadia_32.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/amadeusmozart10/36019/433294/0/DSCN3036.JPG
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ναι, ναι, ναι είναι ωραία πόλη παναθεμα τη!!! ¨Αραγε πότε θα την επισκευθώ με το καλο...

πολύ ωραίες φώτο. Ειδικά η τελευταία.

The towers of Thesaloniki:

The White Tower is the oldest one. Builded around 1400 or so. The Greeks/Byzantines called it the "bloody tower" since in the Turkish (Ottoman) occupation they were puting the greek prisoners there before killing them. It is the great symbol of the city and is located exactly in the center.Nowadays it has become a very interesting museum with the exhibitions being in some of the old cells:

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http://www.travel-to-thessaloniki.com/gallery_images/70.jpg

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5382/464pw.png

and inside it looks like this:
http://www.culture.gr/2/21/212/21209m/00/lb09m029.jpg

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6228/358mw.png

Another tower is the OTE Tower. The cafe that has in the top, used to turn around so you could enjoy your coffee or drink and have a panoramic view of the whole city all around. The last years it's not turning any more, for reason I don't really know:
http://www.gothess.gr/grtour/119200594845/400.jpg

http://www.gothess.gr/grtour/119200593850/400.jpg

http://www.saloniki.org/foto/foto/ekthesi/original/ekthesi_02.jpg

http://www.saloniki.org/foto/foto/ekthesi/original/ekthesi_06.jpg



Then it's the university tower which was built recently:

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http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4829/454co.png

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/8310/224qy.jpg

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Finally there is also a big tower in the west entrance of the city, but it was builted by an industry ofr its production needs, so not likely an urban scenery in that.


Unfortunatelly about the tower of Calatrava nothing really went on public yet. In general it will be a major reconstruction of the center and other areas of the city,plus a lot of updates of the existing infrastucture but the plans are not still finalised. Sometime in the future I will start a thread with construction updates for the city of Thessaloniki with the present (metro, underwater highway etc.) and future plans, but now I don't have much time.
In general a lot of things are supossed to happen in the next years..

Great pictures, cant wait to get there in June!!

Thessaloniki, night pics! (19/11/2005)

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1850/sal0262hj.jpg

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/675/sal0200eo.jpg

one more!

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9392/sal0309sy.jpg

Πολύ ωραίες, στο Πανόραμα μένεις;

Icredible photos! I luv Thessaloniki! Great city!

Πολύ ωραίες, στο Πανόραμα μένεις;

Ναι φίλε Πανόραμα μένω. Ευχαριστώ για τα σχόλια!

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Some nice shots...

Electra Palace Hotel
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/9461/electra.jpg

Cine Olympion
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/6565/thess-olympion_hotel.jpg

Central Public Library
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/22606/thess_cent_public_library.jpg

Limani center
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/17923/resize_of_limani_center.jpg

Golden Tower
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/7492/thessaloniki_kula1.jpg

Kamara
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/7157/galerius_2tl.jpg

Paralia
http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/9461/paraliadc.jpg

@ Singidunum, i can't see your images

Argh I'll upload them somewhere else

More pictures of Thessaloniki:

http://www.gothess.gr/grtour/56220301.jpg

http://www.saloniki.org/foto/foto/ktiria/original/etmsp02.JPG

http://www.gothess.gr/grtour/55545312.jpg

http://www.saloniki.org/foto/foto/ladadika/original/dromos_04.jpg

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4678/407zf.png

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http://www.gothess.gr/grtour/52212221.jpg

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http://www.gothess.gr/grtour/04a2.jpg

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http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7895/321gh.png

http://www.saloniki.org/foto/foto/ktiria/original/ktiria_09.jpg

http://www.saloniki.org/foto/foto/ktiria/original/ktiria_08_ethnikitr.jpg

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http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2628/236zm.jpg


File cosmos xrisimopoiisa merikes apo tis foto sou sto Marseille vs. Thessaloniki thread. I hope you don't mind..

Cheers!

Great Pics!

GREAT SIGNATURE! Loveing the greek flag! Why do u have it/

*hugs Giorgos* :p

@Giorgos - why not? ;) Well I am just showing my support to our Greek friends and their beautiful country :) I've been in Thessaloniki 6 times so far :cheers1:


Ok so here are the photos:

Electra Palace Hotel
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v360/Singidunum/Solun/electra.jpg

Cine Olympion
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v360/Singidunum/Solun/thess-olympion_hotel.jpg

Central Public Library
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v360/Singidunum/Solun/thess_cent_public_library.jpg

Golden Tower
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v360/Singidunum/Solun/thessaloniki_kula1.jpg

Paralia
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v360/Singidunum/Solun/paraliadc.jpg

White Tower
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v360/Singidunum/Solun/38025766.jpg

Thessaloniki Concert Hall
http://www.travel-to-thessaloniki.com/gallery_images/78.jpg

http://www.tch.gr/images/Building/b20.jpg

http://www.tch.gr/images/Building/b07.jpg

The Saint Dimitrios Church/Agios Dimitrios
http://sabin.ro/sabinnew/thessaloniki/P9173285_resize.jpg

The theatre
http://sabin.ro/sabinnew/thessaloniki/P9173294_resize.jpg

Exhibition
http://sabin.ro/sabinnew/thessaloniki/P9173292_resize.jpg

Geia sou Singidunum! :)Thanks for posting the pics !
Its raining here the last 4 days continuously..grr
greetings to Belgrade!

Well it's been snowing here so you are good ;)

Great pics Singidunum.

Lovely pics Singidunum, thanks!


Here are a few from stadia.gr


http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/5390/thessalonikihigh8xu.jpg

http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/7775/thessalonikihigh12zq.jpg


http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/314/thessaloniki2me.jpg

http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/7246/thessaloniki21ls.jpg

http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/1876/thessaloniki33qq.jpg

http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/6703/thessaloniki19aa.jpg

Vell Singidunum....
at least something nice in these rainy days..

Very nice pics guys :applause:

Night shot
http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/6394/24110028jz.jpg

MORE THESSALONIKI PICS! ALL FRESH!

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/213/sal0021ew.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8608/mpoulos0161hc.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3523/26110077tt.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4781/26110091ax.jpg

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/6748/26110103ng.jpg

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/7893/26110117pt.jpg

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/7113/26110137en.jpg

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/2077/26110168zg.jpg

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/2356/26110224bp.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5112/26110269pn.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1377/26110306fb.jpg

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/271/26110332zd.jpg

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9481/26110386kz.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7770/26110392mu.jpg

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9088/26110376jv.jpg

Warehouses in the port of Thessaloniki used as film festival cinemas

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1452/26110258mv.jpg

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/15/26110318ls.jpg

Night shots

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/1040/26110477fd.jpg

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5074/26110489kh.jpg

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/364/26110565sh.jpg

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/7172/26110581yu.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2517/26110599hn.jpg

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/50/26110625jw.jpg

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/4717/26110642xw.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1540/26110663lc.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3623/26110793os.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2442/26110801gu.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4019/26110843gg.jpg

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/1959/26110853ig.jpg

Apla FANTASTIKES!!! eidika oi nightshots.

ANOTHER GREAT SURPRISE!!! BRAVO COSMOS!!! AMAZING PICTURES!!!

The one with the night shot of the Makedonia Palace Hotel is simply AMAZING.

^^I completely agree
great pics!

Thessaloniki is indeed unique, green, charming and I cannot wait for the upcoming Metro, underwater tunnel and maybe the Calatrava Tower pictures to come. :)

what a magnificent artwork from the photographers!what a town!

Thank you all for your comments, pics are taken on Saturday, a really beautiful November sunny day!

I'll go around and take more pics next days from other parts of the city!

Seperb pics Cosmos!

What a great city that Thesseloniki is... :)

Οι φωτογραφίες όλων μπορεί να δείχνουν μια όμορφη και γοητευτική Θεσσαλονίκη, αλλά όσοι ζούμε εδώ δεν πρέπει να ξεχνάμε ότι αυτές οι φωτογραφίες είναι δυστυχώς μόνο η βιτρίνα... Έχω βγάλει δεκάδες ακόμη φωτογραφίες που δείχνουν πεζοδρόμια κατηλειμμένα από ΙΧ, διπλοπαρκαρισμένους δρόμους παντού, βρώμικα στενά με τσιμεντένιες 8όροφες πολυκατοικίες η μία δίπλα στην άλλη, όπου σπάνια πιάνει ο ήλιος, προάστια με άναρχη δόμηση, χώματα και μπάζα παντού. Αλλά ακόμη και η βιτρίνα όπως η Πλατεία Αριστοτέλους π.χ. δεν είναι αυτή που θα έπρεπε να είναι. Αισχρές διαφημιστικές πινακίδες επάνω στα κτίρια, βρώμικα και άβαφα κτίρια, παρκαρισμένα αυτοκίνητα επάνω στον πεζόδρομο και πολλά άλλα.

Εκτός όλων αυτών δεν πρέπειινα ξεχνάμε ότι η Θεσσαλονίκη χάνει σιγά σιγά τον κοσμοπολίτικο χαρακτήρα της, γίνεται μίζερη και κλειστοφοβική, όσο τουλάχιστον δεν αναπτύσσεται οικονομικά. Και για να αναπτυχθεί χρειάζονται πάνω απ' όλα μεγάλα έργα υποδομής που θα αλλάξουν το πρόσωπο της πόλης. Οι εξελίξεις δείχνουν ότι αυτά τα έργα βρίσκονται σε διαρκές τέλμα και μερικά από αυτά φαίνεται ότι δύσκολα θα τα δούμε να γίνονται. Χωρίς αυτά, δύσκολα μπορεί να γίνουν και ευρύτερες παρεμβάσεις εξωραϊσμού ( πεζοδρομήσεις, περισσότερο πράσινο κλπ ) των περιοχών της πόλης. Μέχρι τότε ας βολευτούμε με το τσιμέντο μας ( η Θεσσαλονίκη έχει ένα από τα μικρότερα ποσοστά πρασίνου σε σχέση με τσιμέντο στην Ευρώπη ) αλλά και τοπικές αρχές που το μόνο που τους νοιάζει είναι να πληρώνουν 85.000 € για νε φέρουν το Ρουβά να ανάψει το Χριστουγεννιάτικο δέντρο.

Για ευνόητους λόγους τα γράφω στα ελληνικά, δεν χρειάζεται να γίνουμε ρεζίλι και στους ξένους, αν και όποιος επισκέπτεται την πόλη διαπιστώνει αρκετά, ίσως γι' αυτό η πόλη μας είναι ενώ είναι η 2η σε πληθυσμό στην Ελλάδα, είναι ο 9ος παρακαλώ τουριστικός προορισμός στη χώρα.

ive been selonica last summer. th city was ok(still i didnt upload my pics but i will do one day, i hope) but i prefer villages and little towns around the city. i found some nice architectural beauties in the city, the seaside looks like Izmir and the city generally looks like Izmir. some parts are need to be rebuild but i liked the city. people are very friendly. actually as a Turk i didnt wait good reactions from locals but they were all very friendly towards Turks. i heard Turkish music in bars, cafes and restaurants, it seems Greeks enjoy Turkish music.

Urban Girl I think this city is better than Izmir. Because here has more momumental buildings when Izmir has glass covered modern buildings wich I dislike.

And of course the poeple are friendly because they are not from the cold countries of north.

wonderful pictures cosmos, I appreciate...

hey, we are not cold countries :D

Cosmos: Που ήσουν όταν έκανα βόλτες στην πόλη και έβγαζα φωτό? :)

Συμφωνώ με αυτά που λες...κρίμα που πρέπει να λέγονται ξανά και ξανά αφού ελάχιστα πράγματα αλλάζουν στην πόλη.

BTW, I wonder if it is problem for Greeks if we call the city as Selanik in Turkish or Salonica in English?

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Damn you all!!! You will make me take a train and go there, even for a weekend or something...

^^hehehe

btw Is Istanbul or Athens closer to Thesseloniki?

Maybe we should orginise a race to there! :D

I recommend you to go to Thesseloniki by road and take the train to Athens. My sister did it a couple of years ago, she liked it a lot.

By the way all I got was a souvenier plate, but not bad at all considering she brought me mapple leafs from her Canada trip. (@Leafs, I'm not playing with you,this is true :D)

I recommend you to go to Thesseloniki by road and take the train to Athens. My sister did it a couple of years ago, she liked it a lot.

By the way all I got was a souvenier plate, but not bad at all considering she brought me mapple leafs from her Canada trip. (@Leafs, I'm not playing with you,this is true :D)


Didin't she bring you any maple syryp? This is the syrup that comes from the Maple tree and is used on top of waffles or pan-cakes! It is really good! :cheers:

Didin't she bring you any maple syryp? This is the syrup that comes from the Maple tree and is used on top of waffles or pan-cakes! It is really good! :cheers:

I'm sure she told me about but she didn't bring. I guess I'd remember if she had brought.

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Istambullu the distance from Athens to Thessaloniki is of 510 kms and from Constantinople/Istambul is 700 kms, the later being the same as well as from Budapest so they could join also the race :) .

Leafs, what if Kuvacci was referring to the north-western European and northern European countries? I am talking about the stereotyped image of "cold" Europeans vs "hot" Mediterranean people... ?


In any case, yes, Thessaloniki is definitely worth a visit...

Thessaloniki should be our financial hub and should be home to hundreads of Highrise marvels! :yes:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6231/thess16hl.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7219/thess56wt.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3689/thess27zw.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8135/thess37ko.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2526/thess46ue.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9571/thess65ss.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1025/thess93un.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9160/thess72od.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6210/thess86gi.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6816/thess0109bh.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4650/thess0111ar.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2842/thess0117ll.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1410/thess0122gp.jpg

Thessaloniki should be our financial hub and should be home to hundreads of Highrise marvels! :yes:

Thessaloniki will never equal the financial centre of Greece, Athens of course.

One area though where Thessaloniki MUST take the lead is in trans-Balkan issues and business. Thessaloniki's real importance lies in the fact that it is a MAJOR port leading into the southern Balkans. The city is very important to Bulgaria, FYROM, and Serbia & Montenegro when it comes to transport of goods.

BTW, I wonder if it is problem for Greeks if we call the city as Selanik in Turkish or Salonica in English?

I don't think name is a problem Kuvvaci. When you talk in turkish it is logical to use Selanic as we use Konstantinoupoli for Istanbul in greek. When we talk in English we say Istanbul so in English you can use either Salonica or Thessaloniki.

Edit.wrong post

Er, I believe this picture deserves a bit more attention... Are we seeing the preliminaries of something coming close to the concept of skyline, or I am wrong? ..

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6231/thess16hl.jpg

Some Thessaloniki photos:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2125/4059733os.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7738/nthessalonikiarchitecture0011b.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/713/294552228ajqgcuph0ke.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4572/221185468t1td.jpg

http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/1364/sygxroneskassetinadromoi54pi.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3103/seaside7qa.jpg

http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/3815/259605697kdjbwaph9oj.jpg

http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/3895/203072975fdpsaiph5cv.jpg

http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/9659/img0635smal3rf.jpg

http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/8188/gnmtthct038007dj.jpg

http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/76/10c6az.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2554/storm35bu.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3330/img46387kn.jpg

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/1428/citylights6ia.jpg

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/8448/393495929fkxpnfph3qh.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3562/snow172mn.jpg

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1277/salonikiport1oa.jpg

http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/4435/thessalonikiview3zi.jpg

More
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2695/203078987phpsyrph1rh.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5091/499168226srddbbph5iv.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6062/tsimiski9kd.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7356/romanticsunsetsaloniki2gd.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9610/491261329ppjyluph7vp.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/818/theatro9ii.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6767/clib02uy.jpg

The similarities with Izmir are jaw dropping :eek2:

Such a great-looking city!!! Thanks for sharing all those additional photos, they are all excellent :okay:

Thanks http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/beer.gif

Very nice pics Skylineearth! :okay:

I've found some photos from the mediterranean cosmos:
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6237/mallimgmec211020051741ye2c0030.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6186/mallimgmec221020059523737m5738.jpg

New personal Thessaloniki Pics!

http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/38/rgf0107xl.jpg

http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/7237/rgf0139ak.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9822/rgf0142we.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1619/rgf0178we.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6259/rgf0186yy.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5664/rgf0205et.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3135/rgf0307ow.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/6210/rgf0318tc.jpg

St Sophia church (Agia Sofia)

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7392/rgf0329uw.jpg

Plateia Shopping Center

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7876/rgf0297uf.jpg

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2799/rgf0234kk.jpg

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/6008/rgf0264bx.jpg

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5971/rgf0274jj.jpg

American Consulate general in Plateia Shopping center

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/4985/rgf0287va.jpg

Excellent photos of Thessaloniki :okay: There is so much to see!!! Keep them coming, cosmos ;)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMm!!!! Im enjoying this thread sooooooo much!!!

filakia!

My pics ( Summer 05' ) :

- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/tkostya/purgos_1.jpg

- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/tkostya/thess-pano-2.jpg

- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/tkostya/thess-pano-1.jpg

- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/tkostya/ment.jpg

- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/tkostya/road_2.jpg

- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/tkostya/road_1.jpg

More Thessaloniki photos:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6453/16725b1dw.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7554/179230244eqvkdpph1nk.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3426/95847254pdedruph9iq.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5365/6328l8wh.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6240/erolboranthessaloniki2003a7rr.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5430/368753290yhdhtyph7aj.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2711/20050830image0035b4ba.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3407/shoppingmallthessalonikiert8ie.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/868/491262216phaglaph6vy.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/163/greecesalonikihalo18004be.jpg

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3421/491264318zujlksph1gh.jpg

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2705/491262198wonaicph2sb.jpg

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1172/202677915uorkdmph8vp.jpg

The best Thessaloniki thread so far :okay:

super photos :okay:

In a next city vs city thread in which Thessaloniki will be involved, this city will kick asses!

I love you Ooomorfi Thessaloniki

More photos :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/tkostya/thessaloniki_landscape.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/tkostya/thessaloniki_sea_2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/tkostya/thessaloniki_trainstation.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/tkostya/thessaloniki_sea.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/tkostya/thessaloniki_train.jpg

@Skyline,Cosmos , Kostya συγχαρητήρια , οι φωτογραφίες είναι εντυπωσιακές!! :)
Θα συμφωνήσω με τον κώστυα ότι είναι το καλύτερο thread για τη Θεσσαλονίκη!

@ gm η φωτογραφία στην οποία αναφέρεσαι είναι ο χώρος του πανεπιστημίου και της διεθνούς έκθεσης (δεσπόζει το κτήριο της βιβλιοθήκης αν δεν κάνω λάθος ).
Δεν ξέρω αν θα μπορούσαμε να το χαρακτηρίσουμε skyline σήμερα, αλλά αν υπάρχει όραμα πιθανώς να δούμε κάτι στο μέλλον...

Πολύ φοβάμαι ότι δύσκολα θα χτιστούν ψηλά κτήρια εκεί (γιατι θα χτιστούν πουθενά αλλού ? :sleepy: )

Προσωπικά αν ήταν στο χέρι μου θα έκανα CBD εκεί(μέχρι 30 ορ. κτήρια), στο κάτω κάτω είναι:

- κέντρο
- δίπλα στην έκθεση
- δίπλα στα πανεπιστήμια
- δίπλα στο νέο δημαρχείο (Ε αφού δεν χτίζουμε Rathaus και την είδαμε hightech ας χτίσουμε και μερικά ψηλά κτήρια :) ) (στο παρίσι π.χ το υπουργείο μεταφορών είναι @ LaDefence αν δεν κάνω λάθος)
- ΘΑ(!) περνάει το μετρό.

άλλο ένα Πυλαία (20-30ορ.)και ένα στο λιμάνι. (30-40ορ.)

woooooooooow great picturessss fantesticcc........ i think thessaloniki is much better then athens, seems very organized and definitlyyy i wanna go there as soon as possible ,,,,,,,have any of you ever noticed how much thessaloniki and izmir look like eachother ....check out the pictures of izmir and be suprised

nice city! have you some pics of the new metro-stations?

nice city! have you some pics of the new metro-stations?

Oh falconi! you just threw some salt on our open wound!

Unfortunately metro construction hasn't started yet! We are spinning around endless talks, problems, courts etc etc. I hope next year the construction will start.

Thessaloniki is a beautiful city, but with poor infrastructure. We have to be honest... Athens had its opportunity to develop the city's infrastructure due to Olympic games. Thessaloniki is just waiting...

Thessaloniki is a lovely and historical city but let's not get too crazy with our statements here! Is it better then Athens? Objectively speaking I can't say that it is! And i have visited Thessaloniki several times. It is a wonderful city, unique, that has the potential to become one of Europe's best! But I'm afraid that Athens already takes the cake and has always done so! And i'm not just saying this because i am an Athenian. What amazes me is that some of you see a couple of pictures and you automatically proclaim Thessaloniki a better city! You actually have to visit a city in order to get to know it! I wonder if Izmir is a better city then let's say Istanbul? I only mention this because some non Greek forumers are so quick to proclaim that Thessaloniki (which looks like Izmir as many of you have said) is better then Athens!? Anyway... Greece isn't just about these two cities we have many beautiful areas and should celebrate them too!

Thessaloniki is a lovely and historical city but let's not get too crazy with our statements here! Is it better then Athens? Objectively speaking I can't say that it is! And i have visited Thessaloniki several times. It is a wonderful city, unique, that has the potential to become one of Europe's best! But I'm afraid that Athens already takes the cake and has always done so! And i'm not just saying this because i am an Athenian. What amazes me is that some of you see a couple of pictures and you automatically proclaim Thessaloniki a better city! You actually have to visit a city in order to get to know it! I wonder if Izmir is a better city then let's say Istanbul? I only mention this because some non Greek forumers are so quick to proclaim that Thessaloniki (which looks like Izmir as many of you have said) is better then Athens!? Anyway... Greece isn't just about these two cities we have many beautiful areas and should celebrate them too!


"Objectively speaking" did someone insult you and your city claiming that Thessaloniki has a better quality of life?

See you (Objectively speaking)...

nice city! have you some pics of the new metro-stations?

Actually, nothing is done yet ( :bash: ) but...here's a text from a magazine( ok, i know you can't read greek but you can see some pics for proposed stations), I'll translate the text when i have some time, there're some interesting info :okay: ...maybe later tonight

here you are:

http://metrothessalonikis.tripod.com/TEXNOGRAFIMA295-10.pdf

http://metrothessalonikis.tripod.com/TEXNOGRAFIMA295-11.pdf

http://metrothessalonikis.tripod.com/TEXNOGRAFIMA295-12.pdf

Thessaloniki is a lovely and historical city but let's not get too crazy with our statements here! Is it better then Athens? Objectively speaking I can't say that it is! And i have visited Thessaloniki several times. It is a wonderful city, unique, that has the potential to become one of Europe's best! But I'm afraid that Athens already takes the cake and has always done so! And i'm not just saying this because i am an Athenian. What amazes me is that some of you see a couple of pictures and you automatically proclaim Thessaloniki a better city! You actually have to visit a city in order to get to know it! I wonder if Izmir is a better city then let's say Istanbul? I only mention this because some non Greek forumers are so quick to proclaim that Thessaloniki (which looks like Izmir as many of you have said) is better then Athens!? Anyway... Greece isn't just about these two cities we have many beautiful areas and should celebrate them too!
True. Athens is a better all around city.

"Objectively speaking" did someone insult you and your city claiming that Thessaloniki has a better quality of life?

See you (Objectively speaking)...

No... I'm just pointing out the obvious!

And I don't think that anyone here (that really knows the two cities) were proclaiming that Thessaloniki has a better quality of life then Athens and vice versa, in terms of quality of life they are both up there .... except for the fact that Thessaloniki lacks some of the infrastructure that Athens has (like a metro system, etc) it is quite the livable city and the standards of living are quite good just like Athens'! My argument was geared elsewhere. Thessaloniki just in terms of size is much smaller then Athens, etc. The two cities on a comparable level have there differences. So I suggest that you re read my post, really look at the two cities.......... "objectively" speaking.... and then decide whatever you like! Overall Athens is a better city then Thessaloniki but I don't say this to take away from Salonika! It is a fabulous and charming city as well!

I have to remind everybody here that quality of life is a subjective element in many cases. This applies to Thessaloniki.

The fact that Athens has a metro system can be attributed to many factors but this does not mean that there hasn't been some preferential treatment on the part of state authorities towards Athens. The "overall" notion of a city being "better" needs re-examining guys. You may have not noticed it but Thessaloniki is like a Volcano waiting to explode in terms of development. As a city it is much more "ordered" than Athens and much easier to harness in terms of infrastructure.

Just wait and see...

If ND is true about it's wish to send funds to the until now somewhat 'neglected' Greek cities, then Thessaloniki as a major Balkan transport and business axis will rival Athens soon enough (hopefully).

The new airport terminal, metro (IF they every God damned happen for F*** sake!!!!) coupled with the Egnatia Odos give it everything it desires in terms of modern transport infrastructure.

I agree with gm. Thessaloniki is smaller from Athens in population, but in size Thessaloniki is much more smaller than Athens, so we expect Thessaloniki will get bigger in size. The building construction around the city increases every year and new malls have been built.
The new airport will be very important, because of the flights from countries out of europe (New York, etc).

thx kostya for the pdf's, i'll wait for some translations! ;)
the stations looks very good in quality, but whats the problem with the construction?
are there financial or other problems?

are there financial or other problems?

It's a looong story that started in 1986 I think.

thx kostya for the pdf's, i'll wait for some translations! ;)
the stations looks very good in quality, but whats the problem with the construction?
are there financial or other problems?

Lol, I have to search my "Metro Thessaloniki News" archive :)

There are no financial problems, all 800million euros are there :), but there is a problem with the construction company.


The translation I promised:

- It says that the main project will have 13 all-underground stations in 9,6 km
- Trains will come every 90 seconds
- 36000 people are expected on "rush-hours"
- PSD doors (platform screen door)
- Air-conditioning
- will be build in 6,5 years

Extension plans:
5 km with 5 stations to north - west
5 km with 5 stations to south-east
4 km with 4 stations to the west
7 km with 3 stations to the airport

31 km if all done :)

Everything is ready for the construction to start...at last, after waiting 20 years..

People...anyone with Mediterranean Cosmos pics? ( i've seen those two in this thread )

Thanks.

No, although I would certainly like to see something like "the mall Athens" too. I mean, Pylaia is becoming like Maroussi, even better. For instance, the "Balcan Medical Centre" (Iatriko kentro) there is an A-class hospital of unbelievable architecture and we haven't seen pics yet!!!

http://www.iatriko.gr/html/greek_ver/images/upmenu_off_15_1.jpg



Read here: http://www.iatriko.gr/index_ir.html

Athens, 13th March 2002


PRESS RELEASE


Thessaloniki’s Inter-Balkan Medical Centre
On BBC 1’s main news bulletin (“The 6:00 o’clock news»)



The reportage broadcast by BBC Television on its main news bulletin “The 6:00 o’clock news” about Thessaloniki’s Inter-Balkan Medical Centre” has provoked much comment.

The newscaster at the beginning of the reportage, referring to Mr. John McCumisky, the first English private patient treated recently at the Inter-Balkan Medical Centre Thessaloniki, characterized the hospital as an “exotic solution”.

Following this, footage from an English journalist who visited the Inter-Balkan Medical Centre was broadcast, who likened it to a 5 star hotel, commenting on the architecture and decoration which consists of marble and granite.

The footage also noted that the Inter-Balkan Medical Centre Thessaloniki is also a leader in another sector since it is the only hospital which proposes the ‘Medical Package’ as a solution which includes treatment of patients, accommodation for relatives, travel tickets and tours of the city of Thessaloniki.

Following this the reportage placed emphasis on the ability of the Inter-Balkan Medical Centre to absorb 25,000 patients, a fact which may be a source of relief for the English Health Care System.

The reportage ended with statements made by the English patient, John McCumisky, his spouse and the Organization and Development Manager of the Athens Medical Group, Mr. Anthony Rapp.

Finally, it is worth noting that the footage which was broadcast on BBC Television’s main news bulletin took up more than three minutes television time.

I could take some shots when will be in Greece again... Meanwhile i'll phone to my father, he works there and could send me some photos to upload :okay:

The building is really beautiful indeed, what's amazing is the elevators in the main entrance (remind me those at Plateia) . The building it self is elegant ( high-tech i would add ) and modern.

Wait for the photos :okay:

Most people refer to it as "Diavalkaniko" ( Διαβαλκανικό κέντρο )

I have to remind everybody here that quality of life is a subjective element in many cases. This applies to Thessaloniki.

The fact that Athens has a metro system can be attributed to many factors but this does not mean that there hasn't been some preferential treatment on the part of state authorities towards Athens. The "overall" notion of a city being "better" needs re-examining guys. You may have not noticed it but Thessaloniki is like a Volcano waiting to explode in terms of development. As a city it is much more "ordered" than Athens and much easier to harness in terms of infrastructure.

Just wait and see...

I pray to all 12 gods on olympus that you are right. When it 'Erupts', we will see skyscrapers! That is if they discover them. I still dont get why Thessaloniki dosn't have them.

Hopefully, the next years will be years of evolution and progress for my beloved city :yes:

I dream of skyscraper districts, metro lines and green parks everywhere...

Ah... :pet:

Kostya ωραία τα λες αλλά ας είμαστε λίγο ρεαλιστές , στην ελλάδα ζούμε.

Παρακολουθώ εδώ και πολύ καιρό τις ωραίες συζητήσεις περί βελτίωσης των υποδομών των πόλεων της χώρας , τις νέες κατασκευές κτλπ.

Συνήθως η συζήτηση αναλώνεται σε ευχολόγια.Και με ευχολόγια δε βγαίνει τίποτα

. Είναι ξεκάθαρο πια ότι ο ιδιωτικός τομέας δεν ενδιαφέρεται για την κατασκευή ψηλών κτηρίων ούτε στην Αθήνα ούτε στη Θεσσαλονίκη.

Εκεί λοιπόν τελειώνει και το παραμύθι.
Εκτός φυσικά και αν έχετε στο νου σας κάτι από το κράτος το οποίο θα επενδύσει πολλά εκατομμύρια ευρώ για τέτοιες κατασκευές ( εξαιρετικά απίθανο ακόμα και για μεγάλους κρατικούς οργανισμούς ή υπουργεία ).

Επειδή είσαι ο μόνος που μίλησε για πράσινο , θα σου υπενθυμίσω την πραγματικότητα.
Τις χιλιάδες ανεξέλεγτες χωματερές , τις τσιμεντουπόλεις με τα στενα πεζοδρόμια και με τα ταξί να περνάνε από δίπλα βγάζοντας "μαυρίλα" από τις εξατμίσεις κτλπ κτλπ κτλπ.
Πες μου εσύ που ξέρεις από θεσσαλονίκη πόσα χρήματα ξοδεύτηκαν για αγορές οικοπέδων για δημιουργία χώρων πρασίνου , πες μου ποια η αναλογία πρασίνου στις ελληνικές πόλεις , πες μου 2-3 μεγάλα πάρκα μέσα στον πολεοδομικό ιστό της Θεσσαλονίκης...

Ας δούμε την αλήθεια και ας καταλάβουμε ότι είναι εξαιρετικά απίθανο να αλλάξει κάτι στη νοοτροπία αυτή που υπάρχει.

και μια δυο φωτογραφιούλες από το "διαβαλκανικό" (interbalkan european medical center )

http://www.kallimarmaro.gr/photos/diabalkan1.jpg

http://www.kallimarmaro.gr/photos/diabalkan3.jpg

http://www.mantzaris.gr/_products/6.jpg

Το θέμα πράσινο ίσως να με πονάει περισσότερο απο άλλους συμπολίτες...Τυχαίνει να ζω( όχι μόνιμα ) στην πιο πράσινη πόλη της μεγαλύτερης χώρας του κόσμου και όταν γυρίζω στην Θεσσαλονίκη κάτι με πνίγει...

Χρήματα για χώρους πρασίνου? Χμ, ελάχιστα, δεν λέω καθόλου...στην γειτονειά μου ένας αγόρασε ένα οικόπεδο και το έκανε παρκάκι για τα παιδιά της γειτονιάς με παγκάκια κλπ. Αυτό είναι όλα. Αυτα είναι τα central parks μας :bash: . Αυτό που βλέπω πάντως είναι ότι μεγάλες επιχειρήσεις που χτίζουν κτήρια ή εμπορικά κέντρα κλπ φροντίζουν για το πράσινο και τα ψηλά κτήρια έχουν το πλεονέκτημα ότι αφήνουν χώρο για πράσινο!!!

Ξέρω την αναλογία πρασίνου, είναι θλιβερό. Έχουμε συζητήσει και σε άλλα forum πιθανές λύσεις, έχουμε μιλήσει για πράσινες ταράτσες και χιλιάδες άλλα, το πρόβλημα παραμένει όμως. Δεν είμαι ο υπερ-αισιόδοξος, απλά είπα αυτά που εύχομαι να δω. Δεν είναι στο χέρι μου να αλλάξω κάτι. Τι κι αν έχω το πιο πράσινο μπαλκόνι, τι κι αν παίρνω μόνο λεωφορείο, τι κι αν προσέχω που πετάω τα σκουπίδια, αν ανακυκλώνω αν αν αν... Είναι στα γονίδια του Ελλήνα ο "σταρχιδισμός" ( σόρρυ δεν κρατήθηκα ), αν το κράτος δεν πάρει δραστικά μέτρα, εγώ εσυ και άλλοι ρομαντικοί δεν πρόκειται να αλλάξουμε τίποτα όσο και αν θέλουμε να πιστεύουμε ότι όλα ξεκινάνε από μικρούς πυρήνες. Μπορώ να το γυρίσω σε άπειρα θέμα για να εξηγήσω το φαινόμενο ( παιδεία, εκπαιδευση, νοοτροπία κλπ ) αλλά πολύ φοβάμαι ότι δεν θα βγεί τίποτα. Αμφιβάλω πως οι μεγάλες επιχειρήσεις δεν ενδιαφέρονται για την κατασκευή ψηλών κτηρίων, τουλάχιστον στην Αθήνα αν ακούγεται υπερβολικό για την Θεσσαλονίκη ( το έχει αναλύσει πιστεύω ο gm στο thread του για του ουρανοξύστες στην Αθήνα ). Είναι θέμα νομοθεσίας, νοοτροπίας NIMBYs κπλ.

Για την Θεσσαλονίκη θα ήθελα κτήρια ας πούμε 20 μέχρι 30 ορόφων. Ας ήταν τράπεζες, γραφεία, ή και highrise residentials ( δεν χρησιμοποιώ τον όρο commieblocks για να μην τρομάξουν μερικοί :) ) (με μέτρο πάντα ε)

Σίγουρα η έλλειψη πρασίνου στην Θεσσαλονικη είναι ένα θέμα που μας βασανίζει, αλλά αυτό έπρεπε να το σκεφτούν το 60, όταν χτίζανε τις πολυκατοικίες, χωρίς να σκεφτούν να αφήσουν χώρους με πράσινο ανάμεσα. Ομως αφού φτάσαμε ως εδω, τώρα το μόνο που έχει σημασία είναι να φροντίσουν να περιορίσουν αυτήν την αίσθηση του τσιμέντου και αυτό εχει ηδη αρχίσει να φαίνεται με τα στρατόπεδα της δυτικής Θεσσαλονικης που προορίζονται για να γίνουν πάρκα και κάτι τέτοια. Πάντως η δυτική Θεσσαλονίκη χρειάζεται αυτό το πράσινο. (οχι οτι δεν χρειάζεται και η υπόλοιπη, μην τρελαθούμε.)
Να και λίγο πράσινο:
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2628/nthessalonikisights0003b2gs.jpg


Α, ξέχασα να σας πω οτι αυτό το κτίριο προορίζεται για ξενοδοχείο:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/724/26110103ng9eq.jpg

Δυστυχώς παιδιά, στην Ελλάδα δεν υπάρχει εν γένει η έννοια του αστικού οράματος. Καθόμαστε δέκα άνθρωποι εδώ πέρα, όλοι και οι γηγενείς και οι Ελληνες του Εξωτερικού και μιλάμε για κτίρια, πράσινο, ουρανοξύστες ή απλά ωραια και πρωτοποριακά κτίρια, και στο stadia.gr, όπου είναι και εκεί αρκετοί νοματαίοι και νομίζουμε ότι κάτι κάνουμε.

Ε βρε παιδιά, κάντε κλίκ εδώ --------> http://www.asda.gr/elxoroi/elxoroi.htm για να δείτε και την άλλη πλευρά/.

Επειδή λοιπόν στην περίεργη χώρα που λέγεται Ελλάδα όοοοοολοι αυτοί οι κύριοι που γράφουν εκεί πέρα (είδατε πόσα κείμενα είναι εκεί πέρα ) εξασκούν το δημοκρατικό τους δικαίωμα να εκφράζονται με αυτό το βόρβορο αρνητισμού και να χύνουν έτσι το πύον τους σε ΟΛΑ μα σε ΟΛΑ είτε είναι ουρανοξύστες, είτε είναι μουσεία, είτε είναι σχολεία, είτε είναι δρόμοι, ειτε είναι ακόμα και σταθμοί του Μετρό (Αγία Παρασκευή!!! Ναί, δεν ήθελαν σταθμό του Μετρό στην Αγία Παρασκευή Αττικής, δεν έγινε όταν έπρεπε, και τώρα λέει πρέπει να κοπέι η σύνδεση του Μετρό με το Αεροδρόμιο της Αθήνας επί τρίμηνο για να γίνει ο σταθμός !!!), έτσι κι' εμείς εκφράζουμε το ανάλογο δικαίωμα να θελουμε μια Ελλάδα που να έχει μια αστική υπερηφανεια, και όχι πόλεις-κοτέτσια. Ναι στις μικρές κλίμακες στο Θησείο αλλά ΟΧΙ και σε κεντρικές λεωφόρους όπου το τοπίο ΦΩΝΑΖΕΙ οτι "σηκώνει" ψηλά κτίρια ή άλλου είδους κατασκευές από σωμόν πολυκατοικίες, γυάλινα τετραόροφα και διασκεδαστήρια.

Όσο λοιπόν έχουν το δικαίωμα οι άλλοι, άλλο τόσο έχουμε κι' εμείς να δηλώσουμε ότι ότι υπάρχει σήμερα στις πόλεις μας μας πέφτει λίγο και ότι έχουμε όραμα για κάτι καλύτερο.

Απλά τα πράγματα....

Αντε you started me up again :)

@ Skylinearth: Πολύ φοβάμαι πως τα στατόπεδα μόνο πάρκα δεν θα γίνουν ( Παύλου Μελά, Σταυρούπολη και Πολίχνη ) ...σιγά μην τα αφήσουν οι εργολάβοι τέτοια οικόπεδα... Θέλουν και επέκταση του μετρό προς τα κει ( ναι, η επέκταση της βασικής γραμμής :D ) . Αν και η περιοχή θα ήταν η καλύτερη για μεγάλο πάρκο για την δυτική θεσσαλονίκη. Πολίχνη, Νεάπολη, Σταυρούπολη, Αμπελόκηποι ! Τόσες περιοχές χωρίς ένα μεγάλο πάρκο..Γμτ, δεν μπορώ να βρώ μια φωτό που είχα βρεί στο google που δείχνει το στρατόπεδο από ψηλά..

Εγώ πάντως δεν είμαι καθόλου αισιόδοξος, ούτε για τα στρατόπεδα της Δυτικής Θεσσαλονίκης, ούτε για την ουσιαστική αναμόρφωση του κέντρου της πόλης.

Από τη μια όσον αφορά τα στρατόπεδα η ανάλυση του Kostya με βρίσκει σύμφωνο και είναι πραγματικά κρίμα να μην εκμεταλλευτούμε αυτή την ευκαιρία να πρασινίσουμε μια τόσο μεγάλη και δυστυχως υποβαθμισμένη περιοχή.

Από την άλλη η γνώμη μου είναι ότι το κέντρο δεν μπορεί να αλλάξει πρόσωπο όσο δεν αρχίζει κανένα μεγάλο έργο υποδομής. Χωρίς έργα δύσκολα μπορείς να διώξεις τα αυτοκίνητα ( που αυτή τη στιγμή πνίγουν την πόλη κυριολεκτικά ) και να προχωρήσεις σε μαζικές αναπλάσεις. Από την άλλη υπάρχει μια κεντρική δημοτική αρχή χωρίς κανένα όραμα, με τελείως κοντόφθαλμη λογική και με κατά βάση κιτς αισθητική. Κατά πόδας ακολουθούν και οι περιφερειακοί δήμοι ( θα εξαιρέσω τον δήμο Συκεών που παρά το ότι θεωρείται σχετικά υποβαθμισμένη ππριοχή, βλέπω ότι ο τοπικός δήμος κάνει μια σχετικά αξιοπρεπή δουλειά )

Θεωρώ ότι ιδανική περιοχή στη Θεσσαλονίκη για ανάπτυξη business center και πιθανό χτίσιμο high rise κτιρίων είναι αυτή των Λαχανόκηπων-Σφαγείων. Δίπλα στο λιμάνι, δίπλα στα μεγάλα οδικά δίκτυα, με γρήγορη αναβάθμιση τα τελευταία χρόνια (με χτίσιμο εμπορικών κέντων όπως limanii center, city gate κλπ - χτίσιμο ξενοδοχείων-porto palace, chandris που χτίζεται κλπ.) Είναι περιοχή όπου πιστεύω σηκώνει πολλά. Επίσης υποψήφια περιοχή ολοκληρωμένης αστικής παρέμβασης που θα περιλαμβάνει εκτεταμένο πράσινο αλλά και πιθανά high rises είναι και αυτή της ΔΕΘ-ΑΠΘ όπου μακάρι να δούμε την πολυθρυλούμενη παρέμβαση Καλατράβα, αν και στον τύπο γράφεται ότι ναυαγεί :( Από την άλλη υπάρχει βέβαια και η ταχύτατα αναπτυσσόμενη παραλιακή ζώνη της Πυλαίας με τα εμπορικά κέντρα και τα Malls, τα ξενοδοχεία κλπ.

Είδωμεν, όρεξη να υπάρχει ( που δυστυχώς δεν βλεέπω να υπάρχει και πολλή στους ιθύνοντες ) και βλέπουμε.

μία καλή αρχή θα ήταν η δεντροφύτευση όλων των δρόμων-κατά το δυνατόν-μιας και λείπουν οι μεγάλες εκτάσεις( ειδικά στο κέντρο )που μπορούν να ¨πρασινίσουν¨...

kostya ορίστε μερικές φώτο απο την δυτική Θεσσαλονίκη:

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6203/northclear8nm.jpg

Όντως η δυτική Θεσσαλονίκη έχει πολλά προβλήματα, αλλά ηδη κάποιοι δήμαρχοι έχουν κάνει πολύ καλή δουλειά, όπως ο δήμος Συκεών, που ανέφερε ο cosmos. Επίσης πολύ καλή δουλειά έχει κάνει ο δήμος Ευόσμου, καθώς όταν είχα πάει κάποτε με έκπληξη παρατήρησα οτι ήταν αρκετά φροντισμένος, με πεζόδρομους κλπ, όπως και στο Κορδελιό που σημειωτέον οτι έχει και διυλιστήρια κοντά του.
Τελικά απ'ότι κατάλαβα ο κάθε δήμος είχε το δικό του κέντρο με πολλά μαγαζιά καφετέριες κλπ, το τσιμέντο και η έλλειψη πρασίνου όμως οργιάζουν και οι κάτοικοι περιμένουν τα στρατόπεδα με αισιοδοξία.

Ορίστε και μια φώτο απο αεροπλάνο. Η δυτική Θεσσαλονίκη είναι στο βάθος και επειδή έχει συνεφια δεν φαίνεται:
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8189/3452uq.jpg

In some views greece look worser than somalia :(

I hope the suburbs will look better in the future..

In some views greece look worser than somalia :(

I hope the suburbs will look better in the future..


Alexandros....Σου γράφω στα ελληνικά για να μη μας καταλάβουν η ξένοι.

Δεν πρέπει να λες τέτοια πράγματα για την Ελλάδα. Έχεις πάει ποτε στην Somalia? E, τότε, μην λες πράγματα που είναι απαράδεχτα γιατί η ξένοι τα πιστεύουν.

Μερικές από τις φωτογραφίες τις Θεσσαλονίκης και Αθηνας είναι άσχημες γιατί έχουν πολύ τσιμέντο και λίγο πράσινο. Αυτό, όμως, then σημαίνει πως η άνθρωποι ζούνε σε φτώχεια σαν την Somalia. Μεγάλη διαφορα φιλε μου.

nomizo oti o Alexandros doesn't appreciate the charm of these roofs as I do ;)

The ''real'' Thessaloniki's suburbs:
Peraia
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4403/10dscn11795ar.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2988/photo01010zi.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1872/photo05017we.jpg
Oreokastro
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5880/p81400095vx.jpg

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/8852/p81400030jk.jpg

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/5608/p81400161ed.jpg

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/8168/p81400318uj.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5639/p81400219os.jpg
Panorama
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6006/17okt20040011qk.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/755/1005040041bv.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3610/phototour127pk.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5149/xioni0109cz.jpg

Thanks skylinearth now we're talking... :) Excellent pics.

New Thessaloniki night shots-again personal pics
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Ruins of Gallerius Roman Palace

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3300/eff0042gm.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/452/eff0039oh.jpg

Christmas in Thessaloniki

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9185/eff0087nq.jpg

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/934/eff0162ur.jpg

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4199/eff0186ph.jpg

View of Macedonia Palace Hotel and ancient wall

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9088/eff0333bz.jpg

View of Macedonia Palace Hotel

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6944/eff0292fw.jpg

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5605/eff0194sn.jpg

The Macedonia Palace hotel looks nice with the lighting for Christmas.
Does anyone else think more buildings should be 'dressed' up in wuch a way, but all year round?

Amazing pics guys great work and thanks for sharing!

I see some banner material there too

nice Crhistmas decoration :yes:

The Macedonia Palace hotel looks nice with the lighting for Christmas.
Does anyone else think more buildings should be 'dressed' up in wuch a way, but all year round?

I agree some areas should be kept similar but scaled down.

KALAMARIA SUBURB (Southeastern part of the city)-Personal Pics

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1289/eff0355uw.jpg

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/5264/eff0378gb.jpg

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/1482/eff0413kp.jpg

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/562/eff0446wh.jpg

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/4592/eff0454ri.jpg

http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/426/eff0463ib.jpg

http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/638/eff0497gr.jpg

http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/8315/eff0513nb.jpg

http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/3065/eff0522zo.jpg

http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/8818/eff0531bg.jpg

http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/8675/eff0540tj.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3599/eff0561cw.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5213/eff0574if.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9929/eff0584nq.jpg

http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/9153/eff0599rc.jpg

http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/3766/eff0603rl.jpg

http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/1111/eff0649xc.jpg

^^

Great job Cosmos!!!

edit.

Yes, this suburb is incredible. I recenly went there, but it was very difficult, because of the traffic. You see Kalamaria has many bars and many shops(McDonalds, Goodys etc).
It's population is about 120.000 people.
Here's a site with info's:http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/gr-kalam.html

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3599/eff0561cw.jpg
See it IS possible to make traditional Greek polikatikies that look presentable.

I should take some pics of Nea Politeia when will be back in Thessaloniki...Less classy suburb...but it's livable, quite, mainly young families with their children live there :) . I think it's the best cheap solution for residency in Thessaloniki, but Kalamaria is one of the best suburbs :okay: . It's interesting that both municipalities are the biggest in the city: Nea Politeia ( Euosmos ) 120,000 and so is Kalamaria . Great pics cosmos, once again :okay: :applause:

Have you seen longest buinding from that?
http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/426/eff0463ib.jpg
Yes, Evosmos is a great suburb. We are waiting for your pics, Kostya.

Some more Thessaloniki pictures for my friends.... (my apologies if some have already been posted :) )

http://static.flickr.com/38/75989163_56ba3a6b46_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/40/75989164_8ea284f210_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/41/75989165_3a140f6d5f_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/36/75989166_a28c763cac_o.jpg


http://static.flickr.com/43/75989167_25a6a0b2ff_o.jpg


http://static.flickr.com/41/75989168_da2a0cae6a_o.jpg


http://static.flickr.com/42/75989406_43a6590902_o.jpg


http://static.flickr.com/43/75989407_f5eb0ad23a_o.jpg


http://static.flickr.com/41/75989411_12cc713c34_o.jpg


http://static.flickr.com/36/75989413_f4a3b975c8_o.jpg


http://static.flickr.com/43/75990111_cf504d371e_o.jpg


http://static.flickr.com/42/75990112_2cc646cbe2_o.jpg


http://static.flickr.com/9/75990113_023f8b45d2_o.jpg


http://static.flickr.com/9/75990114_63cb674948_o.jpg


http://static.flickr.com/42/75990115_004b2f3c13_o.jpg

The descent of the Torontonians once again :)
Excellent pics, don't apologise. Do I see some pics from the "Ladadika" area in here. or am I wrong?

Gm οι φωτογραφίες δεν είναι από τα Λαδάδικα, η μία με το δρομάκι είναι στην Άνω Πόλη, η δεύτερη με το εστιατόριο, στην περιοχή Βενιζέλου-Εγνατίας και αυτή με το σκέπαστρο στην περιοχή της Αγοράς ( Καπάνι ή Μοδιάνο )

BTW excellent pics! Congratulations Leafs!

Pic of Thessaloniki before the great fire. Beauty in excess...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b9/Thessaloniki_old.jpg/800px-Thessaloniki_old.jpg

Notice the similarities of the buildings with the ones in Istanbul where most of them have been burnt by the fire. Pity... :(

Pic of Thessaloniki before the great fire. Beauty in excess...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b9/Thessaloniki_old.jpg/800px-Thessaloniki_old.jpg

Notice the similarities of the buildings with the ones in Istanbul where most of them have been burnt by the fire. Pity... :(

Some of these buildings still exist, one of them is the very left building of the picture, known as the red house. The area is the Hagia Sophia Square.

This is a recent pic of the square, you can see the red-house(January 2004)

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/728/1333333img9ft.jpg

I agree with Istanbul similarities, the 19th century Ottoman heritage of our city is really important, although this damn fire destroyed part of it (one important part was also destroyed by the Greek -contructing new buildings fever- of 60s and 70s)

http://www.theodora.com/wfb/photos/greece/football_stadium_thessaloniki_greece.jpg
http://www.theodora.com/wfb/photos/greece/roman_byzantine_ottoman_modern_thessaloniki_ert.jpg
http://www.theodora.com/wfb/photos/greece/ruins_ancient_agora_thessaloniki_ert.jpg
http://www.autom.teithe.gr/~vivia/images/ote.jpg
http://www.autom.teithe.gr/~vivia/images/aristotelous.jpg
http://rufus.hackish.org/albums/03-thessaloniki/1761_vlatadon_monastery_view_of_thessaloniki.sized.jpg
http://rufus.hackish.org/albums/03-thessaloniki/1762_vlatadon_monastery_view_of_thessaloniki.sized.jpg
http://rufus.hackish.org/albums/03-thessaloniki/1561_upper_city_walls_south_side.sized.jpg
http://rufus.hackish.org/albums/03-thessaloniki/STD_1567_thessaloniki.sized.jpg
http://rufus.hackish.org/albums/03-thessaloniki/1571_vlatadon_monastery_newly_constructed_monks_quarters.sized.jpg
http://rufus.hackish.org/albums/03-thessaloniki/STF_1569_thessaloniki.sized.jpg
http://rufus.hackish.org/albums/03-thessaloniki/STC_1566_thessaloniki.sized.jpg

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/3818/westentrance6oc.png

wHAT THE HELL IS THAT BUILDING IN THE BACKGROUND??????

']http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/3818/westentrance6oc.png

wHAT THE HELL IS THAT BUILDING IN THE BACKGROUND??????


I think it is TITAN, the cement factory in northwest Thessaloniki. Yes it looks like a skyscraper but...


Anyway these are my first photos for 2006:
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/8151/grsaloniki28cp.jpg

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/2589/dsc014211mo.jpg

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1975/whitetower032oi.jpg

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/3497/0455lh.jpg

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/9494/shipssunset6aj.jpg

http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/1392/megaronmousikis9wk.jpg

I like this:
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5461/grsalonikipanoramasp8wn.jpg

Perea suburb with view to Thessaloniki:
http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/126/gremptycafe0cn.jpg

I could swear some photos are from Izmir! So many similarities!!

BTW, The Titan block is as tall as a skyscraper. Too bad TITAN is a cement company and these are their silos... I have seen the structure close in 2002. Really impressive but still... not exactly the real thing...

Damn. I got so excited i nearly pissed myself lol! It could easily pass as a modern skyscraper from that pic. It looks like it has Cross Bracing Facade and reminds me of BOC Tower. Any Closeups?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/tkostya/titan.jpg

Έτσι για να σας την σπάσω :D

We will need to make a reference to all the tall structures in Greece. I know of Power plant chimneys in Greece for instance that are much taller than the Athens Tower etc...

Yep, looks impressive

Nah... We need urban scenery...rural power plant chimneys are boring imo...

God, I can't wait to see a highrise project proposed....ops, i mean, i can't wait to see laws changing first.

Happy new year by the way :okay:

nice city really nice. it kinda looks like izmir

hi neighbours... ;)

this is my modest contribution to your great thread.

these pictures are from 2002 and are nothing spectacular.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8861/1181857img4we.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2695/1181859img0vy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/663/1181864img2pk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And this one is when you won the European Championship in football... so 2004

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8164/img10916mi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

What's the population of Thessaloniki today?! I'm interested in the official numbers not speculations?

:cheers2:

hi neighbours... ;)

this is my modest contribution to your great thread.

these pictures are from 2002 and are nothing spectacular.

And this one is when you won the European Championship in football... so 2004

What's the population of Thessaloniki today?! I'm interested in the official numbers not speculations?

:cheers2:

Hello Djurob thank for the pics :)
The population of the city of Thessaloniki (NOT THE PERFECTURE) is ~900,000-1,000,000.
The whole perfecture of Thessaloniki (something that you can call in the broader meaning as the metropolitan area ) is ~ 1,150,000 - 1,250,000
These numbers are based on the official census (last in 2001) by adding the number of illegal immigrands and the population growth the last 5 years.

Yes, I agree with you Skaros.
I believe the logical population is 1.200.000

Hello Djurob thank for the pics :)
The population of the city of Thessaloniki (NOT THE PERFECTURE) is ~900,000-1,000,000.
The whole perfecture of Thessaloniki (something that you can call in the broader meaning as the metropolitan area ) is ~ 1,150,000 - 1,250,000
These numbers are based on the official census (last in 2001) by adding the number of illegal immigrands and the population growth the last 5 years.

thanx Skaros :)

what about area and density? I've been trying to make some comparations for several Balkans cities in terms of population, area, density... and also the population figures from the last couple decades. But I often find very unrealibile, unlogical and contradicting informations on the internet. Perhaps you guys can help me out about Thessaloniki. Oh, and if you have the GDP per capita for the city... that would make my day :)

:cheers: