according to the sunday times property liftout the raffles development has sold about 140 out of 147 units in 10 days, and marketing hasn't even stated [and i don't think it has full approval yet] !!!!

Yeah this has died down lately. The Nimby's must be regrouping (God help us all). Be interesting to see what happens with it.

are there any dates on construction? i thought it had gained approval. from memory wasn;t it around the same time that Burswood Lakes gained its approval?

mike

Doing pretty well. This project should get the approval of council.

MCC has already approved it, but it's the state planning commission that you got to worry about. I don't think there will be any problems though. Construction should start mid year last time I read.
I have one question, what will happen to T'birds!!!

http://www.melville.wa.gov.au/frame-test.html?temp/raffles/raffles_approval.htm

Last bid to stop vote on Raffles
By PETA HELLARD
23feb03
THE future of Multiplex's controversial redevelopment of the Raffles Hotel site in Applecross could be decided this week.

The WA Planning Commission's Statutory Planning Committee is scheduled to meet on Tuesday to vote on the building giant's application to build a 15-storey riverside tower.

But local opponents of the development plan, which also includes 147 residential units on the land surrounding the art deco hotel, made an 11th-hour bid this week to delay the committee considering the application.

Alfred Cove MLA Janet Woollard and members of the Raffles Action Group called on the State Government to pull the proposal from consideration until it had been determined whether Multiplex's application process met legislated requirements.

Dr Woollard said she believed several requirements of the redevelopment application system had not been fulfilled.

"The Government is there to ensure that legislation which is passed is carried out correctly," she said.

Planning Minister Alannah MacTiernan said she had passed on the group's concerns to the planning commission.

"I have asked them to ensure these allegations were dealt with and there was no breach in the application or anything that would undermine the lawfulness of any decision," Ms MacTiernan said.

Voting by the six-person committee on Multiplex's proposal has been postponed once before.

The committee was scheduled to make the final decision on the project last month but was delayed after Dr Woollard and the Conservation Council appealed the decision of the Environmental Protection Authority not to make a formal environmental assessment of the application. The appeal was quashed later by Environment Minister Judy Edwards
www.sundaytimes.com.au

Raffles Hotel plans hit approval impasse
CONTENTIOUS plans to develop the Raffles Hotel site in Applecross have been stalled by a WA Planning Commission decision.

City of Melville mayor Katie Mair said yesterday that developers Multiplex would not be able to build a multi-storey apartment tower because the commission approved an application different from that approved by the council.

"They can get a building licence but the problem is they can't build because the WAPC has given approval which is in variance to our approvals," she said.

The commission revealed yesterday it consented to a 17-storey tower at the riverside site provided adjoining buildings were restricted to five storeys.

But at a meeting last December, the Melville council approved a 15-storey tower with neighbouring buildings of five and nine storeys.

"That means that the Raffles Hotel cannot proceed," Ms Mair said. "Multiplex will have to make a decision as to whether it appeals the council's decision or appeals the WAPC's decision or whether it appeals both."

Multiplex could also submit a new application to the council.

Alfred Cove MLA Janet Woollard said the decision could spell the end of the Raffles redevelopment because a new council could be elected by the time Multiplex submitted a new application.

Commission chairman Terry Martin said the decision was made in accordance with planning and urban guidelines for the significant riverside site which ruled out bulky developments.

Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan said the decision highlighted the need to address the issue in a proposed review of the Town Planning and Development Act.

Multiplex Developments general manager Martin Steens declined to comment.
www.thewest.com.au

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theres an ad in todays west [sat] on page 45, have a look what an amazing view

website just launched !!!
www.raffleswaterfront.com

wow i don't know the original plan for for a 12 & 17 level towers

Conditional Approval for Raffles Proposal
The Western Australian Planning Commission has granted conditional approval to redevelopment of the Raffles Hotel site in Applecross.

Commission Chairman Terry Martin said in 1999 the Commission adopted planning and urban design guidelines to guide future development of the significant riverside site.

"The Commission determined to approve the proposed development subject to a number of conditions that would ensure greater consistency with the guidelines for a slender and elegant tower with regard to the Applecross skyline.

"The 17 storey tower was approved as it provides a focal point for the site that will become a distinct regional and local landmark.

"It was determined that to attach a 12 storey tower to it would create a bulky development, not elegant and slender as referred to in the guidelines.

"The 12 storey tower and other residential buildings on the site have been restricted to a maximum of 5 storeys in height, to create a podium from which the tower will ascend.

"As the Raffles Hotel building is listed on the State Register of Heritage Places it is required to be retained and will be redeveloped for use as a café, restaurant and offices.

"The development of the foreshore reserve will be the subject of a separate application that will be considered by the Swan River Trust.

"It is now for the developer to decide on the necessary steps to enable development to commence as planning approval is required from both the Commission and the City of Melville," Mr Martin said.
5 March 2003

Commission Outlines Decision to Approve Raffles Hotel Development

Western Australian Planning Commission Chairman Terry Martin recently attended a meeting of the Melville City Council in order to explain the Commission's reasons for its decision and at that meeting he agreed to publish those reasons.

"In 1999 the Commission refused an application for the redevelopment of the site that included a 9-storey resort and serviced apartment complex," Mr Martin said.

"This proposal would have resulted in the demolition of the Raffles Hotel and a slab-design building occupying the whole of the site presenting a stark and overwhelming building on the foreshore, which would have been completely at odds with the surrounding landscape.

"In October 1999, the Commission recognised the regional importance of the site at the confluence of the Swan and Canning Rivers and required any application to develop the site be referred to the Commission for determination.

"This prompted the Commission to declare planning and urban design guidelines, which guide the form and design of any future development.

"In essence the guidelines sought a design solution that proposed a low, horizontal element bordering the foreshore, and conservation of the Raffles Hotel structure and setting with the opportunity for a slender tower element above the podium as a landmark building.

"These guidelines prepared in late 1999 have been in the public arena and made available to the Melville City Council, the public and interested developers.

"The Commission subscribes to the implementation of its guidelines and must therefore place great weight on them when considering any development application for the site.

"Its approval of the Multiplex proposal was conditional on those objectives being met.

"The Commission's approval is subject to a number of conditions to ensure a closer fit with the guidelines, including the removal of one floor on the eastern wing of the development and reduction of the proposed 12-storey tower to 5-storeys," Mr Martin said.

The Commission also took into account the many public benefits associated with the proposed development including the retention and reuse of the Raffles Hotel, which is now on the State Heritage List; upgrading the foreshore reserve; improvements to the local road network; and landscaping of the forecourt to the Raffles Hotel.

It also had due regard to the consideration given to the development application by the Melville City Council and to public interest which the application generated.

The proposed development, together with the proposed rail/bus station at Canning Bridge and the recreational asset of the Canning River will all contribute to the Canning Bridge locality becoming an attractive and appealing urban precinct as envisaged in the City's town planning scheme.
20 March 2003

www.planning.wa.gov.au

Multiplex builds on Raffles success
MULTIPLEX is using the strong sales performance of the controversial Raffles Hotel redevelopment to launch its burgeoning residential operation, Multiplex Living.

About 80 per cent of the apartments in the 119-unit development on the site of the old Raffles Hotel have been sold in off-market transactions.

Multiplex is proceeding with a 15-storey tower, with construction scheduled to start in October.

A mix-up with the approvals for the project has forced Multiplex to go back through the approvals process to get the go-ahead for the 16th and 17th floors.

The WA Planning Commission approved a 17-storey development in February after the Melville City Council agreed to a 15-storey tower in December 2002.

Multiplex Living national sales and marketing manager Kevin Driscoll said he was confident the approval for the top two floors would be granted.

Multiplex is capitalising on the success of the $130 million development, named Raffles Waterfront, and is using it to introduce Multiplex Living, the national brand for its residential development operation, to WA.

Multiplex Living will go head to head with traditional residential developers, including Mirvac Fini, Stockland and Australand, in the battle for prime waterfront land.

Multiplex development director Martin Steens said the Multiplex brand was traditionally associated with building and joint venture partnerships in WA.

The Raffles Waterfront is the first major residential project for Multiplex in Perth, and the group has now announced a joint venture with Sealanes to develop an oceanfront parcel of land in Fremantle.

Mr Driscoll said the speed of sales was impressive for a market the size of Perth.

He said Perth still had a fledgling apartment market in comparison with other Australian cities like Sydney and Melbourne but the sales proved there was demand for well-located product.

Multiplex has set up a display suite in the Old Swan Brewery development on Mounts Bay Road.

Despite concerns voiced by the community regarding the style and height of the project, Mr Driscoll said the majority of the buyers who had exchanged contracts lived locally.

He said the apartments appeared to appeal in terms of demographics, location and proximity to water.

The project is expected to be sold out by the end of this week.

Mr Driscoll said the success of the Raffles project would be used to sell the Multiplex Living covenant into the Perth market.

"When we next launch a major project we can use the success of this as an example of the Multiplex Living ethos," Mr Driscoll said.

For many of the buyers this was their first experience buying property off the plan.

Although most of the sales went to local people the development attracted some interest from people living on the east coast.

He said the apartments had been pitched at the owner-occupier market rather than investors.

The apartments start at around $500,000, rising to more than $2 million for the penthouses.

Multiplex Living's strategy for identifying new parcels of land for future developments will be focused on waterfront opportunities.

Mr Driscoll said Multiplex Living would seek out unique sites with water vistas.

Multiplex announced it had entered into an agreement with Sealanes to develop its South Fremantle property last month.

The $50 million project will transform the oceanfront site into an urban village with up to 130 dwellings.
www.thewest.com.au

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WAPC Approves Different Raffles Design
The West Australian Planning Commission (WAPC) has granted planning approval for a building up to 17 storeys on the Raffles Hotel site. However in January 2003, the City of Melville granted planning approval for a 15 storey building.

The original proposal submitted by Multiplex, requested a 17, 13, 6 and 5 storey building. The City of Melville approved, under the Community Planning Scheme No. 5, a 15, 9 and 5 storey building.

The approval was granted on the basis that the 15 storeys does not exceed 49 metres in height, has a plot ratio of 1.55 and has a maximum floor space of 14,850m2 (not including the heritage listed building).

The West Australian Planning Commission has approved, under the Metropolitan Region Scheme, a building up to 17 storeys for the residential tower and 5 storeys for the lower apartments.


Executive Manager Planning and Development Services, Craig McClure, said that the redevelopment of the site cannot proceed until a building licence is issued by the City of Melville.

"A building licence can only be issued in accordance with the planning approval granted by the City of Melville", he said.

"The Raffles redevelopment requires two approvals - one under the Metropolitan Region Scheme and one under the Community Planning Scheme No. 5".

"In short, the development cannot proceed unless the planning approval by Council and the WAPC are similar", he said.

Multiplex has an appeal right to both the WAPC and the City of Melville decisions. Meetings are being arranged with the WAPC and Multiplex to clarify the process from here

City of Melville faces Raffles court threat
CITY of Melville councillors may have to decide whether to allow a 17-storey tower at the Raffles Hotel in Applecross or face a court battle costing ratepayers up to $200,000.

The council will decide tomorrow decide whether to allow chief executive John McNally to negotiate a consensual agreement with Multiplex on the basis that any final resolution would be put to a council vote.

Melville Council in December approved the construction of a 15-storey tower at the prime riverside site but Multiplex is pursuing its plans for a 17-storey development and wants increased floor space and changes to other conditions.

The Town Planning Appeal Tribunal has set down a 14-day trial to decide the issues in September.

Ernie Samec, a senior partner at law firm Kott Gunning, estimated the hearing would cost the City of Melville $100,000 to $200,000 and would raise complex legal issues due to the prominence of the site.

"They could not run a defence for under $100,000," he said.

In a report prepared for the council's development and neighbourhood amenity committee meeting last week, councillors were told they should consider negotiating on car parking, stormwater and drainage run off, finishes and design elements and plot ratio.

Committee chairman Duncan Macphail said out-of-court mediation would also include the prospect of increasing the height and original floor space approval of 14,850sq m.

"The point of negotiation would look at the possibility that we could look at 17 storeys (and) . . . maybe a maximum of 15,400sq m," he said.

"Also then we would look to negotiate community benefit commensurate with that extra floor space."

The entire Raffles residential complex has already been sold. Buyers have paid more than $10,000,000 in deposits to stake a claim to the luxury accommodation.

Martin Steens, Multiplex Developments general manager, declined to comment because of the court case.

The council must vote in favour of any altered or new development before it can go ahead.

Alfred Cove MLA Janet Woollard, who has campaigned heavily against the size of the development, said the council should consider pushing for a nine-storey complex in light of the recent elections and new make-up of councillors.

"The council has to put it back to the community," she said.
http://www.thewest.com.au/20030616/news/perth/tw-news-perth-home-sto101705.html

Further up the river, Multiplex’s Raffles Hotel apartment development has recently sold out, despite any decision yet to be made about the height of the building.

Multiplex has to wait until September for a 14-day trial with the Town Planning Appeal Tribunal to find out whether it must reduce the size of its tallest residential tower from 17 storeys to 15 storeys.

Multiplex has stated that the project is not viable without the extra two floors
http://www.businessnews.com.au/story.php?nid=11733&P_category=1

Good! Multiplex know how to use maximum pressure, threatening to pull the plug on the whole project - I'm sure it will still go ahead even at 15 levels.

esp. considering the penthouse alone went for $7m. god they must have made around $100m in sales

I think they want to start construction in the next couple of month, though they could be effected by legal action for the extra height

mirvac fini have been given approval for a $40m 4 level unit development right near the raffles on the foreshore

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Tower on Raffles site likely
A 17-STOREY apartment tower is back on the drawing board for the Raffles Hotel site at Canning Bridge after mediation talks between Multiplex and the City of Melville.

In a report to be tabled at Tuesday's council meeting, chief executive John McNally recommends councillors support a 58m apartment block provided three surrounding apartment buildings are kept to five storeys.

The proposal is the same as that approved by the WA Planning Commission in March.

A community backlash led to the council rejecting Multiplex's proposal for a 17-storey tower in December, instead approving two towers of 15 and nine storeys.

But the threat of a $200,000 court battle prompted a new round of negotiations.

The City of Melville would gain an extra $2 million in revenue - consisting of a cash contribution of $800,000 and the strata title and parking rights to 133 pay-parking bays - if the proposal is approved.

In return Multiplex would gain an increased plot ratio of 16,400sq m, which translates into 115 apartments, all of which have been sold already.

"From discussions among elected members it is clear that there are different views, some suggesting that a single 17-storey tower would have less amenity impact on the surrounding area than the 15-storey and 9-storey towers, bearing in mind the bulk of the construction," the report reads.

"Bearing in mind that the council has already approved a 15-storey x 9-storey x 6-storey configuration, totalling 14,850sq m, the remaining issue for the council is whether they are prepared to accept 16,400sq m of residential development within the same shell."

City of Melville mayor Kathryn Jackson said the proposal represented a compromise in light of the WA Planning Commission's approval.

"If council approves the report and recommendations on Tuesday, then Multiplex will be able to progress to the next step, which is to obtain a building licence," she said.

"If agreement is not reached, the matter will be referred back to the Town Planning Appeal Tribunal for determination in September."

Multiplex Developments general manager Martin Steens said he was unable to comment until the appeal was finalised.
http://www.thewest.com.au/20030816/news/perth/tw-news-perth-home-sto109048.html
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Raffles Redevelopment to be Considered
As a result of discussions between Multiplex and the City Melville regarding the application for the redevelopment of the Raffles Hotel site, a report and recommendations will be presented and considered at the next meeting of Council.
The City of Melville Council, at its Ordinary Meeting in June 2003, authorised John McNally, Chief Executive Officer, to negotiate a Consensual Agreement with Multiplex with the view to resolving the Raffles Hotel Development Appeal on terms acceptable to the City of Melville, with the Agreement being referred to the Council for final approval.

Mr John McNally has now concluded discussions with Multiplex and will present his report and recommendations to full Council at the next Ordinary Meeting to be held on Tuesday 19 August at 7.00pm in the Council Chamber, Melville Civic Centre, 10 Almondbury Road, Booragoon.

Council granted approval for a 15 and 9-storey structure in January 2003, which included a number of special conditions. As the Raffles site is one of regional significance, approval under the Metropolitan Regional Scheme is also required. In March 2003 the West Australian Planning Commission approved a 17 and 5 storey structure citing that a taller but less bulky structure was more appropriate for the site.

Multiplex, through Appin Investment Pty Ltd, has appealed seven (7) Conditions of the Council Planning Approval dated 13 January 2003.

The report details the major points of the negotiations, which Council will consider;

·One single 17-storey tower, as per the Western Australian Planning Commission decision, instead of a 15 and 9 storey tower.
Surrounding building height of 5 storeys, instead of 5 and 6.
Resolving other minor matters such as
o Pick up and drop off points
o Provision of parking for commercial users and access to visitors bays
o Management of drainage in an environmentally acceptable manner.
“If Council approves the report and recommendations on Tuesday, then Multiplex will be able to progress to the next step, which is to obtain a building licence. If agreement is not reached, the matter will be referred back to the Town Planning Appeal Tribunal for determination in September”, said Melville Mayor, Katherine Jackson.

Copies of the Council agenda will be available on the City of Melville website on or before Monday 18 August 2003

the council gave the 17 level tower the green light last night:banana:

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:!!!!!!!a new surburban skyline will be born!!!!!!

there's currently an 8 level apartment building nearing completion oposite the raffles and mirvac have just got an approval for a 5 level apartment development just arround the corner. This has been a good win against the nimby's. we didn't get the 3 towers, but were getting a pretty significant sized tower for being about 8km from the CBD. probably the tallest out of the inner city on par with renzevous scarbourough

Originally posted by chrisaus
there's currently an 8 level apartment building nearing completion oposite the raffles and mirvac have just got an approval for a 5 level apartment development just arround the corner. This has been a good win against the nimby's. we didn't get the 3 towers, but were getting a pretty significant sized tower for being about 8km from the CBD. probably the tallest out of the inner city on par with renzevous scarbourough
iv always wondered what that 8 lv tower is. i thought it was only like 4 levels cause there is no core. do ya know when construction will start?
Is this area classed as middle city or far city.

The 8 level building U/C is called Number 1 The Esplanade, and is residential. Also the Mirvac development is only 4 levels, not 5.

they plan to start construction in october, all units are sold!

I love it!
http://www.aussiehome.com/images/properties/34013/34013_lg.jpg

It is pretty fine:)
It's great that it will be the full 17 levels,at the start of the year it seemed the Nimby's might get their way.Maybe now,when other developments are proposed in this area,they will shut up and let people who want high rise apartments have them and enjoy the awesome views they are willing to pay for.

More scrapers for the suburbs(Perth's):guns1:

there was going to be 3 towers....

So,is there going to end up being more or less units overall?

Originally posted by NZer
So,is there going to end up being more or less units overall?

I think ive posts lots of articles on the first page of the thread... anyway construction should get underway in sept:guns1:

its a bloody stunner!!!! idont think there is any modern skyscrapers in the inner city burbs' like this one. they are shitboxes. (excenpt for bluwater in sp)

http://www.melville.wa.gov.au/temp/raffles/model3.jpg
Raffles Decision
The City of Melville, at its Ordinary Meeting of Council on Tuesday 19 August 2003, approved a redevelopment proposal for the Raffles Hotel with structures at 17 and 5 storeys.

The previous approval granted by Council was for 15, 9 and 5 stories. The West Australian Planning Commission also approved a 17 and 5 storey structure.

Multiplex (the developer) had appealed the original decision which was scheduled to be heard at the Planning Appeals Tribunal in September.

In June, Council authorised the Chief Executive Officer to attempt to negotiate a mediated solution. The recommendation from these discussions was considered and adopted by Council.

These negotiations were built around the following three (3) key principles –

To maximise the parking in Canning Bridge, both now and in the long-term future;
To obtain fair value for City of Melville assets if they were to be used for parking - this includes City of Melville land opposite the Raffles development and the existing Library site;
Obtain fair public benefit for any bonus plot ratio provided.
The final proposal adopted by the Council involves the following key components –

A cash contribution to the City of Melville of eight hundred thousand dollars ($800,000); and
The ceding of the public carpark area located in the basement of the Raffles Development, containing approximately one hundred and thirty-three (133) public bays, to the City of Melville to be run as a ‘paid parking station’. When combined these benefits have a total public benefit of approximately two million dollars ($2m).
Bearing in mind that the Council had already approved a 15-storey x 9-storey x 6-storey configuration, totalling 14,850sq.m, the remaining issue for the Council was whether they were prepared to accept 16,400sq.m of residential development within the same shell – ie one single 17-storey tower and three x 5-storey residential buildings. This would be instead of two towers, one being 15-storeys and the other 9-storeys x 6-storey residential building facing eastwards, and the other two facing north and west being 5-storey.

http://www.aussiehome.com/property.asp?pid=34013

More pics...

hi aussie andrew and welcome to the forum!!

Raffles deal settles on 17 storeys
THE compromise plan that has put an end to a seven-year battle over the controversial redevelopment of the heritage-listed Raffles Hotel site is revealed here.

Melville City Council, which accepted Multiplex's plans for a 17-storey apartment tower on the prime foreshore site in Applecross last week, says the deal avoids a costly legal fight and secures the community a $2 million windfall in cash and parking rights.

But the Raffles Action Group says the council has sold out, ignoring strong community opposition and setting a dangerous precedent which could destroy the Swan River foreshore.

Debate over the site has raged since 1995 when an application was lodged to demolish the art deco building and replace it with a nine-storey hotel and apartment complex.

Various applications have been lodged and withdrawn since. Last December, the council eventually approved three buildings, of 15, nine and five storeys, and the restoration of the existing hotel.

In March, the council's decision was undermined by WA Planning Commission approval for a 58m tower and three five-storey buildings - giving Multiplex an extra six apartments.

Last week, fearing a court battle which could cost up to $200,000 and risk the community benefits offered by Multiplex, councillors endorsed the 17-storey plan.

Raffles Action Group member and Alfred Cove MLA Janet Woollard said council officers initially recommended a 13-storey building and town planning allowed for a six-storey development.

Dr Woollard said the action group was not anti-development but wanted responsible progress at the site, which had regional heritage significance.

She said the approval also allowed for the development to occur within 4m of the foreshore, contravening provisions of the Swan River Trust Act.

"It is setting a precedent to destroy the Swan River foreshore and to destroy heritage sites throughout the metropolitan area," Dr Woollard said.

Building the approved development is expected to take more than two years.
http://www.thewest.com.au/20030830/news/perth/tw-news-perth-home-sto110821.html
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it looks like its on a desserted island!:D

I like it when you drive back to Perth from down south on the freeway. You start to see the city skyline from a distance. Soon the first scraper we shall see is this one (Raffles) with the vast river glistening behind it. Next the Crawley Towers from across the river come into focus with Kings Park as their back drop followed by the South Perth towers and then the Jewel of the crown, the CBD, glistening in the sky as the sun begins to set with an array of colors in the sky.:angel1::D


http://www.melville.wa.gov.au/temp/raffles/elevation%20north17.jpg

not long now!
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:cry: I don't want it to go now! jj:D

demolition will start early november:guns1:

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I'll be going rowing tomorrow morning right near the site.:cool:

Ok I didn't drown. Hey I didn't know there was a 10 story tower nearing completion near the rowing club.:cool:

Originally posted by RocStar
Ok I didn't drown. Hey I didn't know there was a 10 story tower nearing completion near the rowing club.:cool:

Where is the rowing club (meaning, where is the 10 storey tower nearing completion?)?

I think its about 8 levels its south west from the bridge next to BP just back from the foreshore, oposite the raffles. mirvac are also putting up a 4 level development close by.

errr... funny design...:sly:

Originally posted by finn
Where is the rowing club (meaning, where is the 10 storey tower nearing completion?)?
It's actually on the corner of Canning Hyw and The Esplanade Mt Pleasant.
@chris too..I counted the floors twice. The first time I got 10 and the second time I got 9!:dunno:

Here's a slightly different rendering of Raffles that I found - it's gonna be quite the landmark develoment right there on the water! :)

http://members.optusnet.com.au/lafin/raffles.jpg

Very nice. It's just what that part of Perth needs.

I really really like all the rendings I have seen, should be great, and im glad the raffles is being saved as a heritage icon, and the new cafe should be good there as well! can't wait for construction to get underway!

RAFFLES HOTEL HAS OFFICIALLY CLOSED PAVING WAY FOR THE START OF CONSTRUCTION

cool... it will make a great entry statement to the city of melville!...

what happened to the site next to mcdonalds?? west of the raffles?? is it being built on?

I think that site your talking about is the one where a 9 level building has just been completed...
when are you coming back to perth?

Regarding the site west of maccers, a 9 story apartment building was approved late last year. Nothing has yet come of it. Number 1 Esplande (Chris mentioned) is almost complete.

i will be coming back next yr... depends on the visa... i just got married so i am waiting for my wife's visa to be approved and it can take time...

hopefully the southern rail line should be well under construction then... there is heaps of things going on here construction wise.. but i still miss perth..
here they are building a new subway line (seems they are digging it by hand) and also just finished a new convention center which is 2nd biggest in world and completing a new airport which will be one of the biggest in asia....

The amount of apartments that are being built here is ridiculous.. from my balcony i can see around 20 tower cranes.....and every day there are more cranes.. the prices are going to crash soon... many of the office buildings are half finished and stopped coz the devloper runs out of money..........

saw the new apartment tower oposite while going down the southern freeway and the scafolding had been removed and it look really nice at a glance. anyone been past the site recently? has groundworks started?

Went past on Saturday. There is a fence around the whole site. It would seem that they are currently gutting the bar, but as of yet, no wrecking ball for the hotel.

its not being demolished... they are turning it into a cafe & bar

No shit, read carefully, I said the hotel (the hotel is at the back of the bar, it is being demolished.)

Isn't hotel & bar the same thing.... or is there accomodation at the back? never been there....

went pass the other night. that new building above shell is bloody nice! really happy with that one! also the raffles site is blocked of by fences, thats all I could see. with these developments plus mirvacfini's new one this is going to be a quality mini skyline! hopefully the dick head locals can see that development can look great!

i saw it too. i think some of it has been demolished.
BTW tat neon beer sign was still lit up!:D

Yeah, the hotel part has been pretty much completely demolished. Not to long we'll see a couple of cranes towering over the site.

hopefully 2 nice big tower cranes like we had on panorama!! that would look great heading down the southern freeway! a real statement about perth's growth and development heading upwards:guns1:

http://www.melville.wa.gov.au/temp/raffles/elevation%20north17.jpg
http://www.melville.wa.gov.au/temp/raffles/elevations%20south17.jpg
http://www.melville.wa.gov.au/temp/raffles/elevations%20east17.jpg
http://www.melville.wa.gov.au/temp/raffles/elevation%20west17.jpg

there is now one of those crane things on site

There was actually two when I drove past yesterday. It looks like its full steam ahead.

The apartments building near the raffles
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view from no 1 the esplanade
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went padling on the river today. we were only 1k from the raffles and i could see quite alot! it looks like the groundworks are finishing off and the bldg is about to start.

I had a quite look while cruise down the southern freeway and looks like its cranking up, can't wait to see a big tower crane! a nice statement to the nimbys that we are serious about development. hopefully with the rail canning hwy traffic will calm down and become a very attractive area!

It is already a nice area,I stopped to have a look around Coffee Pt etc while driving into Perth from Mandurah last year and I thought it was nicer than the Western Burbs like Cottesloe.
I think I could handle living there;)





It's over a year since NZer was in Perth,I get sad when I look at pics of it now..........:ohno:

when's your next trip to the mighty west?
I might even give your a free tour for $10000:D

What could you show me of Perth that I couldn't find myself? :D
Do you know where to get some goo poon.lol

When I finish my training and become a qualified tradesman I would like to move to Perth permanently,only coming back to New Zealand to hunt Deer in the Beech Forests of the Central North Island.


Perth is so warm and sunny and modern,but laid back I liked it ever since I first visited as a kid.
It's so much different from NZ but kinda similar in how lazy and can't be fucked attitude to everything but with nice weather and palm trees thrown in for good measure.

do you have family in perth? or does your family like coming over to perth on hols?

perth is a nice place but the wankers in it are givin me the shits . id rater be in auckland right now

pffft from what they say the sprawl, traffic and public transport are shocking in auckland, trust me dilaz you get nimby wankers everywhere! lets not go running let get the wankers! with brinks:guns1: nah ill be nice, just batons

most nimbys are old fucks who are about to kark it soon anyway.

who breed suburban car depended dwats!!!! END THE OUTRAGE!!! HELP A NIMBY KARK IT!!!1:guns1: :colgate:

Heritage Agreement Secured
The Heritage Council of Western Australia has secured an Agreement with Multiplex (the developers of the Raffles Redevelopment) to retain and restore the Raffles Hotel to its original state and to prepare a conservation plan so that the site will be required to conserve the heritage value, regardless of who owns and manages the site.

The original application for the redevelopment of the site proposed to demolish Raffles Hotel altogether, so this is a significant achievement, ensuring the landmark retains more of its individualistic Art Deco style.

The Agreement requires the owner, Multiplex Raffles Pty Ltd, to carry out a schedule of conservation works and prepare a conservation plan to guide future management of the site. It requires the developers to retain all existing original fabric on the site and to enhance the buildings settings and surrounds.

The Heritage Agreement was a condition of the Heritage Council's recommendations for the Raffles Hotel Redevelopment in 2002.

Heritage Minister Tom Stephens said that Heritage Agreement between the hotel owner and the Heritage Council of WA would ensure the protection and conservation of the Raffles Hotel.

Her Worship the Mayor, Katherine Jackson said in a prepared statement:

"The Raffles is such a landmark south of the river, not only for its location, but for its original Art Deco flavour

"The City of Melville is very pleased thiat this iconic entrance into our City will now be restored and protected under this agreement

"To know that the Raffles is now required to be maintained and conserved regardless of ownership is very reassuring," she said

Originally posted by chrisaus
do you have family in perth? or does your family like coming over to perth on hols?


Both really,I got family in and around Perth.
My immediate family want to move back to the West in the next few years but I'll probably be here for a bit longer than them.


The best way I can describe Auckland to you guys is to imagine Perth without anyone using the trains,half the width of most major roads,double the rainfall,a lot more planes flying over,denser but shorter CBD and everyone shops at "The Wharehouse" instead of Myer.

I like both of them I think.:)

when you say move back to perth do you mean your family is from perth and move to NZ?

One side of my family is from WA,but the other is from NZ.
My parents settled in NZ years ago(before I was born) but have always intended to live in Aus eventually.

I have never lived in Perth,but I've been over a lotta times-and I like it more and more after every visit;)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid109/p7620ecef07f1035557c5187579d49673/f9259714.jpg

This ones going to look like a jewel. Have those Nimby's shut da hell up down in that part of the world yet? This is all go go go isn't it.

yeah its full steam ahead now!

sure is, haven't cruised down the southern freeway for awhile but last time, looked like the site was cranking ahead, think we should see some cranes soon! should be able to see this one when finished from kings park!

More renders from ssp>>>
http://www.emporis.com/en/il/pc/?id=181155&aid=8

ive edited this one on ss.com as UC is that right? if so piccies yet?

ive edited this one on ss.com as UC is that right? if so piccies yet?

sure is, haven't cruised down the southern freeway for awhile but last time, looked like the site was cranking ahead, think we should see some cranes soon! should be able to see this one when finished from kings park!

=yes

last time i saw the groundworks had finished

i have some pics.. i will post in the next few days

i cant wait!!! if ya can't be fucked hosting them just send them to mdilaz_19@iprimus.com.au and i'll do all the dirty work!:)

I went past this site yesterday but forgot to take my camera with me.
Site work well under way..I also I see they are digging around the Raffles building.. wonder whether that will impact the building's foundation. The WA Art Deco Society wont be happy if they see that since they're very much against the development!

I think they plan to upgrade the facade anyway, whats great, we get a nice heritage building and a skyscraper what more could you want:) oh plus it will house a new riverside restaurant:)

Nimbys advocate: "but it's more than 4 storeys and we don't want it. It's a monstrosity and I have no rational reason to give you why it should not have gone ahead". You know what they say about Nimby's and small building sizes don't you? :).

Here ya go !! :D

Pic from canning hwy
http://images.fotopic.net/?id=4885386&outx=600&oq=0

from the foreshore.... new apartment tower can be seen in the background
http://images.fotopic.net/?id=4885388&outx=600&oq=0

The big dig
http://images.fotopic.net/?id=4885389&outx=600&oq=0

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they are digging pretty deep around the front....... i hope the old hotel wont fall in :D its going to be great when finished... the spire will be lit up at night .. i will update with more photos over time.. i am living nearby now..

Thanx Guy :okay: ...cant wait till its finished...a long wait I know :)

thanks for the update! great to see some more people getting of around town with their digi's!! there seem to be a lot of site offices they must sit in there all day instead of working:)

now got a tower crane (mayby 2 as i saw another tower cranes footings) and what seems to be a corebox
apologies for the crap pics

http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v42/mdilaz/DSC01095.jpg

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thats awesome.... i was going to take some tmmrw but now theres no need...

i dont think there will be two cranes.. they were installing this one on the weekend and there was only the one..... there are heaps of cranes in that area now.. with one there, one in mt pleasant on one big one on mt henry bridge... the impact of the crane shows the kind of impact the building will have.. HUGE. can be seen from mts bay road and the city very clearly

yes there is need! mine r shit!

ok when my work is quieter later in the week ill take some close ups around the site :D

cheers for that, it sets a nice statement about developement and a entry to the built up inner city area

i took some pics of raffles today.. work is going ahead at a good speed.. i will post them later.. unfortunately my camera ran out of battery so I was only able to get around 7 pics.. i also wanted to get some pics of the mirvac fini project across the road but no joy...

dilaz was correct, there is two tower cranes.. the new one will be erected on the weekend i think... they were delivering the beams etc: today... this one will be yellow :D... the one tower crane they have got there is going gangbusters.. so having the second one is good news...... the core is in place and they are still excavating around the front part next to canning hwy...

pics will be posted soon......

is azure UC (mirvac fini)

yes its well UC... i dunno how many stories it will end up being.. maybe 4 or so? they have completed around 2 stories so far.. and seems to be full steam ahead... although it wont make much of an impact once its finished and the crane is gone.

thanks for getting pics!!! as i said b4 i saw the second tower cranes footings, i actually had doubts that is was another crane because it was yellow, not white!

some excellent pics by perthguy78

http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v42/mdilaz/IMG_0534.jpg

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Great pix...it's really powering ahead!

wow thanks for those pics its going to look great, those homes have a great vantage point for construction:)

^
It will be hell if u were a nimby:laugh:

yeah thats why i took that pic... to show where the nimbys live.. and i imagine they are well pissed off! :D

id be cremen myself if i were there!:D

going by the impact the crane is having from the CBD this is going to be a great landmark, and a nice precedent for more development nodes around the Swan!

second crane is up!

Every time i go to my local dewsons ill be able to see this thing. Makes me wanna get groceries.

lol where do you live?

Como..

A few k's plus a bridge and im there.

i live in applecross.. we are neghbours...... dewsons sucks..... i wish we had a coles in applecross..

so mikeyraw when are u gonna take some pics of developments around como :D

When my digi cam's loading bay isnt so fucked :)

And dont knock dewsons man. Dewsons is the shit..

we used to have a dewsons near us then skips bought it out and called it farmer jacks. its like the worst shop eva!

what do you mean by ya digicams loading bay??? what camera is it?

kodak dx6300.
http://img.dooyoo.net/GB_EN/120/photography/digital_cameras/kodak_dx_3600.jpg

The loading bay works on my families office comp, but my comp doesnt seem to recognize the hardware even though the program is loaded etc.

what windows? if its 98, forget it due to lack of usb support

NEEEEEEEEEEERDS ! ! ! ! :rofl:

i may be a nerd, but im not in a country hicks town in new zearland!

nah, im not a nerd. just not a dumbass either!:D

It's not that much of a hick town...


Man,chris is going to be so pissed when he comes back and finds all his project threads fucked up with spam.lol

his fault for leaving us

Yeah its XP...

there is a spam thread for this guys.. :D or pm each other...

ok ok no more!
here are some photos from today. i had this good one of the corebox whats like lv 2 or 3 but it accidently got deleted:(
http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v42/mdilaz/DSC01331.jpg

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To get a fair idea of raffles height, How high do you think those cranes are, so i can get a goot comparison of how tall it will be from the city..

double heightr of cranes i reckon

Nice... I would Photshop it in accordingly, but ah.. You know how it is...

ill do it! im like the apprentice chrisaus nowdays ;)

eh? so ure gonna start blowing up at people for asking questions about prjects?? hehe

for fuck sakes look back 2 pages for my aswer to that! :D

haha :D

:rofl:

wow wow wow cranes cranes crane!!! wikid

i think fotopic ruins the quality of the pics.. they look much better on my pc before uploading and are taken using a 5mpx canon... oh well here are some pics as promised :D


cranes seen from kings park :D


http://images2.fotopic.net/?iid=y3ogib&outx=800&oq=0

more cranes
http://images1.fotopic.net/?iid=y3ogig&outx=800&oq=0


closeups..........the core is hanging over the edge of that fucking big hole :runaway:
http://images2.fotopic.net/?iid=y3ogih&outx=800&oq=0 http://images1.fotopic.net/?iid=y3ogii&outx=800&oq=0



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cheers mate!

>>>>>>www.multiplexliving.com.au
sign up for the mailing list (vip list me thinks) and get a magazing sent out with latest project info, including raffles and other projects around the nation

there is a sign up now at the raff advertising multiplex living....

MORE INFO>>>>>>
www.melville.wa.gov.au >>> news

Scheme Amendment to Control Building Height Near Raffles
Urban Planning for the Canning Bridge Precinct between Sleat Road and the bridge is currently under review. A proposed amendment to the City of Melville Community Planning Scheme No. 5 recommends better management of building heights, density and plot ratio, reflecting both the needs of the business community and local residents.

While continuing to encourage commercial and mixed-use development opportunities in the area, taking advantage of the location’s proximity to the river and proposed Rail Station at Canning Bridge, the amendments also consider the concerns of local residents in relation to building height restrictions in the area and preliminary comments from the public are being sought.

Under the proposed amendments, the District Centre, which includes the Raffles Hotel, is proposed to be divided into three sub precincts, staggering the allowable height of buildings within the zones, thereby keeping the low height restrictions of those zones closest to residences.

The highest densities are proposed to be within walkable distance of the proposed Canning Bridge Rail Station.

A traffic and parking study will also be undertaken by independent consultants on behalf of the City of Melville to determine the impact of new and proposed developments in the Canning Bridge Precinct, which will later be reviewed by the Council.

A wide number of bodies will be consulted about the proposals, including local community groups, in order to consider all views and perspectives.

The City of Melville welcomes any preliminary public comment about the Canning Bridge Precinct Scheme amendments. All comments will be referred to Council for consideration of modifications prior to formal advertising of the Scheme amendment.

For more information about the Canning Bridge Precinct Scheme amendments, click here to visit the Community Consultation page or contact Special Projects Officer, Alan Diggin on 9364 0221or email Alan here or Planning Officer Matt Raymond on 9364 0234 or email Matt here. (Please write Canning Bridge Amendment in subject line if writing email)

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went past today. its up to lv3 in the core

some shit pics form the bus
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great article about the raff in this weeks melville times :) some great u/c pics aswell on the front cover :D

get it for us!:D
we know a few people in melville so ill see if i can scabb it off them. there will probably be a metion about it in the cockburn paper if i cant get the melville one

i have it.. but no scanner :P.. yeah its a bit small the article but has interview with the multiplex prject manager.. he says there have been no troubles with water or digging around the river... and the carpark is done.. core to lv3.... 14 more lvls to go!....... construction on the wings will start soon then after that the hotel will be restored.

im looking forward to the restoration of the raffles and the new restaurant should be nice and swanky right on the riverfront, plus when raffles finished the train line will be getting close so it will only take 5 mins to go there from the CBD

there all ready some nice restaurants in that vicinity

as seen from crawley-
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/mdilaz/DSC01703.jpg

core upto lv 4/plates on lv 3

its about 4 levels up now, that area looks great now with alot of buildings, perths first real suburban skyline, and with the rail transit line that area will be great, even better if there were less cars and more people, lets hope the nimbys cool of and we can get some high density nodes all around perth esp near mass rapid transit lines, and get some suburban density, and urban living happening to help consolidate the sprawl and increase public transport use, and shed the suburban image and help us get to the top of the standard of living list.


Scheme Amendment to Control Building Height Near Raffles
Urban Planning for the Canning Bridge Precinct between Sleat Road and the bridge is currently under review. A proposed amendment to the City of Melville Community Planning Scheme No. 5 recommends better management of building heights, density and plot ratio, reflecting both the needs of the business community and local residents.

While continuing to encourage commercial and mixed-use development opportunities in the area, taking advantage of the location’s proximity to the river and proposed Rail Station at Canning Bridge, the amendments also consider the concerns of local residents in relation to building height restrictions in the area and preliminary comments from the public are being sought.

Under the proposed amendments, the District Centre, which includes the Raffles Hotel, is proposed to be divided into three sub precincts, staggering the allowable height of buildings within the zones, thereby keeping the low height restrictions of those zones closest to residences.

The highest densities are proposed to be within walkable distance of the proposed Canning Bridge Rail Station.

A traffic and parking study will also be undertaken by independent consultants on behalf of the City of Melville to determine the impact of new and proposed developments in the Canning Bridge Precinct, which will later be reviewed by the Council.

A wide number of bodies will be consulted about the proposals, including local community groups, in order to consider all views and perspectives.

The City of Melville welcomes any preliminary public comment about the Canning Bridge Precinct Scheme amendments. All comments will be referred to Council for consideration of modifications prior to formal advertising of the Scheme amendment.

For more information about the Canning Bridge Precinct Scheme amendments, click here to visit the Community Consultation page or contact Special Projects Officer, Alan Diggin on 9364 0221or email Alan here or Planning Officer Matt Raymond on 9364 0234 or email Matt here. (Please write Canning Bridge Amendment in subject line if writing email)

@ www.melville.wa.gov.au - news - july 26

A few of these towers around the raffles would be great... or in emu brewery :P

http://www.student.math.uwaterloo.ca/~j3fung/vancouver/DSCN1707.jpg

make sure you get your submission into the council then, or the biggest thing you might get is a 3 level house:D

from the car-
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perth needs alot more suburban development! this is a great start, sends a chill up your spine seeing those cranes in the burbs:D more more more, vote with your vioce for moooore

lol yup we sure could no with more of that! it looks like people are sorta starting to ecept change around there and i hope it sparks many new projects like this.

A few of these towers around the raffles would be great... or in emu brewery :P

http://www.student.math.uwaterloo.ca/~j3fung/vancouver/DSCN1707.jpg
nah they look shit + trhey are too tall for therm to fit in nicely with that area

I like towers that a similar yet very different or mass developments will just be sterile

hey wil the penninsular look different?

looking at yarra's edge in melb I would think so, the first 2 towers are similar though they are of similar height, all 7 towers range in height anyway back to raffles

as seen froim aapt-
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ahhhh my eyes :D looking forward to the cannning bridge train station though by the time that opens i guess construction will be done

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ahhhh my eyes :D looking forward to the cannning bridge train station though by the time that opens i guess construction will be done

wont be much chaneg at cnng bridge.. they wil just use the exisitng bus station

im more thinking about just being able to get there with ease... hop on at esplanade one station to canning bridge @ 130kmph how easy is that, and the new restaurant will be open by then, ah can't wait...

will probaby be real $$$

good won't be full of bums

just cause its fancy doesnt mean its all that great.

will probaby be real $$$

wouldn't be suprised at all :p

just cause its fancy doesnt mean its all that great.
if there are no bums, bogans, wiggas no fast food store styled decor etc.. then it gets my vote :D

lol
i think the station will help it a lot too.

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dilaz what kind of impact is it having from the freeway? will be a great gateway tower into the CBD when all the people come into the CBD from the sprawl with the new rail line

not so much as of yet but up close its starting to look big.

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Living at Raffles Waterfront is a sensational and unique lifestyle. Situated in an amazing stretch of the Swan River that invites walks, bike rides or a paddle, Raffles Waterfront is nearby to South Perth Yacht Club. There are lots of great parks in the area and if you feel like a round of golf there is a course close at hand. Places like these are extremely rare. Raffles Waterfront is life right on the water's edge. Nothing between you and the river. Enjoy views that stretch to the city and across the expanse of water that begins just outside your apartment. There is no finer place to live in Perth. This outstanding future development will comprise of apartments designed with style and quality. Don't let this once in a lifetime opportunity pass you by.

um didnt they sell out?

thats a roger, just a bump up to remeber the design

i think a ferry to raffles and to east perth and other places along the swan would be great! and be more useful like the sydney ferries :)

Yeah, it would take a while to get that awesome. It pains me to never see any boats on the swan.

looks amazing on a sunday when there are hundreds of sailing boats thingings out on the swan very postcardish also there must be atleast 6 river cruise companies that operate from barracks square, but if we can get more high density riverside nodes and create the mount pleasant foreshore into a tourism node then a public transit ferry route could become viable

WAPC and the PTA AND the DPI have agreed that MORE ferries are needed.

I like sitting down on como jetty on sundays. Its really is nice. Im the only person in the world who can catch fish thier aswell.

WAPC and the PTA AND the DPI have agreed that MORE ferries are needed.
well its all good to say that but..... SHOW ME THE MONEY.... comeon the election porkbarreling has started now give us something worthwhile

even though south perth will get rail in future and canning highway i think the ferries will still be popular as they are very 'holidayish' and 'touristy' so i think both services could be sustained, there is talk of extending ferries into east perth with the gateway project and the burswood foreshore, would be a great way to get to burswood esp in the future when its 'burswood city' for the people who are to terrified of catching the train on the armadale can use the ferry

Yeah, talk from this forum. that doesnt count.

lol

all too true

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excellent! i wate with bated breath the higher it goes! :)

taken yesterday (fone cammed)
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The sort of view upper level residents cane expect to wake up to daily! go highrise!
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its been 7 weeks .any new pix.?

i last saw it 2 sundays ago. it was lv 8 in core and 7 in floors. will go get an update next week.

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that looks about 200m of the ground.

i went past today and counted 7 stories! might be wrong because i was on the freeway.

you need a digi? im sure you atleast had a phone cam? we need more updates on this one!!!

im getten digi for chrissie, i was worken for ma grandfather and i didnt take my fone (its a shitty siemens MC60 the camera is crap as!)

I might go down. I live up the road.

One day maybe.

lol, i dont find raffles that exciting it would be awesome if it was a 40story tower :(

Oh contrare - I find it "reasonably exciting" as it's a step in the right direction and a blantant punch in the face to irrational nimby's who can't understand the difference between progressive logical development and irrational development.

i dont' know how people couldn't support it, the old raffles look like a stingly suburban bogan hole now we are getting a slick landmark tower, close to a new train station and the raffles will become a chic restaurant and bar, any one who is against it should move bush and get on with their pethetic life, and let the city move on an urbanise..!!

Yes, I agree Chris. This is the dilemma and illogical mindset of the Nimby we are talking about here. When the Raffles development was proposed, there were 50yo married couples protesting saying that the spirit of the old Raffles should be preserved, that it was a place where they met and grew up and had great times in their teens and 20's. Revelation 50 yo's, the Raffles, before the development, was a den for the Bikers and rough nuts, the scum and the drunks. The Raffles changed and these 50yo's couldn't even see the dive that it became.

These emotional arguments aside, are there shadow issue's with this new development, will it attract a low class of tenancy? Nope - so what's the frikken issue?

what our nimby'ism is from... we really need to kill all these things of...
1. jealousy ie people can't afford nice apartments so they don't want others to enjoy it
2. conservatism people are just so set in their boring ways to scared of something new
3. country town outlook, because haven't got used to the fact we are now a big city
4. views, people don't want their views lost
5. absolute selfishness, people have thier place in paradise and don't want more people in the area
6. stupidity, simply because they are boring as fuck and have nothing better to do than simply complain about crap

and im not sure what this big shaddow things is about, they are good, perth gets so hot the more shade the better, the city where there is low rise is like an oven sometimes, shaddows are great, what better way to slop slop slap than with a whopping big tower! they always go on about gettiing burnt so a nice tower along the coast will protect our skin:D
and who cares about the class, who says money is class? alot of the rich western suburbs have about the class of a poo. you can't buy class, alot of poor people have alot more class than any rich person could ever imaging, and imo a brownlie towers is alot better looking than a sprawling new elenbrook or brighton what a community shouldn't be, i can't wait for the day that our shit for brains resident realise the tacky stupid fake lakes 'lifestyle' estates, is absolute heartless crap thats killing the heart of our city...
in conclusion... BRING ON THE TOWERS!!

i got pics last wednesday. there was a core rise later that day but i ditnt manage to get a pic of that. ill post soon

http://img155.exs.cx/img155/8150/dsc029500ns.jpg

http://img155.exs.cx/img155/2761/dsc029513ce.jpg

good pics,

cheers again dilaz, love your works, great pics, and cheers for the update! keep up the good work, from the bus on mounts bay road the other day its having a nice impact now, its a great landmark project we should all be proud of as pro developer crew

lookin good (Y)

one dodgy arse pic

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/freoperthwa/158-5821_IMG.jpg

hahaha still gives an indication which is what counts

Probably about 40% of it's eventual height.

nah half exact. its hard to tell from that angle.

should then reach the tip of the smaller hammerhead

last wednesdays pics (nothing chaged- constrction break)
http://img146.exs.cx/img146/2879/dsc031300wk.jpg

http://img146.exs.cx/img146/6859/dsc031321rc.jpg

today (14-1-05) rise should occur later this week.
http://img97.exs.cx/img97/8781/1626225img2yl.jpg

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/7763/1626224img1so.jpg

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/4586/1626223img6xe.jpg

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/4797/1626222img3om.jpg

core is now lv 10 of 17.

looks like a nice height.

http://img161.exs.cx/img161/1315/31010513336mf.jpg

http://img161.exs.cx/img161/4232/31010513349dq.jpg

noice !

sick!

http://img54.exs.cx/img54/6663/1676771img9fm.jpg

making good progress. even if slow.

slow???? floor pate and core rise once every two weeks aint slow!:D

the low rise part has toped out too

http://img219.exs.cx/img219/2766/1686880img3pg.jpg

http://img219.exs.cx/img219/6725/1686882img7ei.jpg

http://img219.exs.cx/img219/9318/1686883img1el.jpg

http://img231.exs.cx/img231/9062/dsc000132yw.jpg

glass and cladding going up

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/perthcitycentre/RIMG0095.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/perthcitycentre/RIMG0121.jpg

wish it was taller!

Ugly Freeway!

LOL, I thought I was looking at the wrong section. Is this under the same Raffles based in Singapore?

http://img190.echo.cx/img190/140/dsc003197ab.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Should be the hight of the crane

wow, what a location! cool pix guys

my prediction-
http://img10.echo.cx/img10/9781/pred0rm.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

I reckon these apartments are going to go up in price so quickly. Just because of their exclusive location and the lack of any simular developements in the foreseeable future.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/perthcitycentre/RIMG0216.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/perthcitycentre/RIMG0215.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/perthcitycentre/RIMG0214.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/perthcitycentre/RIMG0213.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/perthcitycentre/RIMG0211.jpg