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Taha November 13th, 2005, 11:40 PM Hamilton skyline from Arkledun Ave.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3711/s53000129gh.jpg
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Taha November 13th, 2005, 11:50 PM Sorry made a mistake. Could you move to the ontario tread :)
jeicow November 13th, 2005, 11:55 PM It's a nice skyline, but some of the larger buildings are very... not great in terms of design. Hopefully there will be some major condo development (which I think is happening, but correct if I'm worng) so there will end up being more prettier ones in the skyline.
Btw, which building is taller. The white one in the distance or the brown one that's closer? I think the white one is taller, but I can't tell if the brown one is built on a hill or not.
MTLskyline November 14th, 2005, 02:04 AM I find it looks like part of Moscow :tongue2:
Steeltown November 14th, 2005, 02:23 AM When people ask me to describe our skyline I simply say “All Hamilton needs is a giant disco ball hovering over the city and everything matches up” lol. Skyline been stuck since the 70’s.
The tallest is the white one with the black top. That's Landmark Place which is the tallest residential tower in Ontario outside of Toronto.
There are condo developments happening in Hamilton but that's only happening where developers are purchasing unused buildings and converting them into condos/lofts. Over 1,000 condo/loft units have created over the last 4 years. Pretty soon they'll be no more unused buildings and hopefully that will make developers build condominium buildings, which is starting to happen such as Cityview Terrace.
rise_against November 15th, 2005, 06:18 PM Hamilton should have a better skyline then it does...
ssiguy2 November 15th, 2005, 08:04 PM I've always thought Hamilton has a pretty good skyline for the size of the city but it doesn't seem to have changed much over the last 20 years.
Nick November 19th, 2005, 12:44 PM (My first post on the Canadian forum).That skyline looks huge for a small city.Hamilton is just south of Toronto right? near Niagra? I went through there on a bus late in the evening
Xusein November 19th, 2005, 05:55 PM Very impressive, I rarely see that side of Hamilton when going to Toronto when driving on the QEW.
jeicow November 19th, 2005, 06:22 PM ^ I know what you mean. For people who just drive on the QEW and never go on the 403, Hamilton looks like a total crap shack. I never realized how good Hamilton actually looked until I went down the mountain.
Dino Domingo November 19th, 2005, 06:51 PM Hey that's cute. Are there any new buildings planned for Hamilton?
DrJoe November 19th, 2005, 07:20 PM (My first post on the Canadian forum).That skyline looks huge for a small city.Hamilton is just south of Toronto right? near Niagra? I went through there on a bus late in the evening
Yeah pretty much. It is about half way between Niagara Falls and Toronto.
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1107/untitledfdgdf4yi.jpg
Steeltown November 19th, 2005, 07:58 PM Hey that's cute. Are there any new buildings planned for Hamilton?
Yes,
There's a Hilton Hotel being planned out, they already picked the located (corner of Bay and Main) which is steps away from Hess Village. A great location really.
Hamilton Port Authority is expanding their building, doubling the size to 9 storey.
Rendering photo: http://www.raisethehammer.org/images/port_office_rendering_lg.jpg
Cityview Terrace is a condominium building that's currently under construction, located near Copps Coliseum.
McMaster Graduate Residence located at the corner of Jackson and Main St. which is 15 storey.
Rendering photo: http://www.rflintack.com/fileupload/uploads/portfolio/TITLE-SHEET_copy.jpg
Lister Block which is an eyesore is going to be redeveloped into office spaces.
Rendering photo: http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/549/5507listerblock.jpg
Part of Phase II is to build a minimum of 10 storey office (could be more floors just has to be least 10) building next to Lister Block.
Probably the most exciting project is Hamilton Health Sciences. Over time their going to relocate 1,000 employees to the downtown. Few days ago they announced their renting a few places until they whip up a building of their own.
Royal Connaught Hotel is currently under renovation which is a multi million dollar project. When it’s completed it’s going to be a 5 star hotel. The only 5 star hotel outside of Toronto in southern Ontario.
McMaster is currently building a sports complex and a stadium.
Rendering photo: http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b2/Bonaducci1/sports.jpg
Oh and McMaster is also creating a McMaster Innovation Park the hired architect firm is Diamond+Schmitt Architects Inc. Which I’m sure some of you know does awesome projects.
The rest of downtown construction is converting buildings into condos/lofts there are probably around 7 or 9 of those projects, some big some small.
Go to Hamilton Development Thread if you want to get more information: http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=237246
You are to blame November 19th, 2005, 08:21 PM Hamilton needs the vancouver treatment, some glass condo's would really improve the skyline.
doady November 19th, 2005, 09:28 PM Hamilton's skyline is great. I don't understand why people think it's so bad.
Jaybird November 19th, 2005, 09:39 PM Is the Hilton hotel gonna be a highrise of some sort, Steeltown? If so, SWEET, will add a little to Hamilton's skyline.
zerokarma November 19th, 2005, 09:47 PM Skyline been stuck since the 70’s.
That's very true which is sad because Hamilton as a city has so much potential but as time goes on I think it is getting a somewhat unpleasent reputation.
Steeltown November 19th, 2005, 10:10 PM Is the Hilton hotel gonna be a highrise of some sort, Steeltown? If so, SWEET, will add a little to Hamilton's skyline.
I'm pretty sure. Darko Vranich, the developer, gave some clues such as it will have underground parking, he'll have restaurants/pubs/night clubs facing along George St so help expand Hess Village and everything currently at Bay and Main will be levelled to make way for the Hilton Hotel. He bought the property over the summer so there isn’t much information.
Darko owns the old federal building right next door to the planned Hilton Hotel which will be turned into condo/lofts and that's 8 storey so it'll probably be taller than 8 storey.
A few months ago Darko completed the Staybridge Hotel at downtown Hamilton. Which are steps away from Copps Coliseum. Darko has been on a buying spree he has bought 4 downtown Hamilton properties over the year.
CrazyCanuck November 20th, 2005, 12:06 AM I few more modern buildings would do wonders to hamilton, but the lack of a few more taller buildings and the awful designs of the ones that are there are clouding my vision.
Lucky 24 November 20th, 2005, 02:11 AM Hamilton is great, but I wish they would blow up landmark place...I think it's the worst skyscraper in Canada.
Dino Domingo November 20th, 2005, 04:54 AM Hamilton's skyline is great. I don't understand why people think it's so bad.
Well it is a little bland, come on, let's be honest here. It needs help.
doady November 20th, 2005, 07:56 AM Hamilton's skyline is huge for its size, and the buildings are densely packed together. There are few cities in North America of this size that can match it.
Brett November 20th, 2005, 09:32 PM I can't wait to see the new hilton, it will look much more impressive then the ratty old car dealership! I like Hamiltons skyline even if its is a little dated, I even like the Century 21, err i mean landmark place, i still get the names mixed up
snoopy November 20th, 2005, 10:43 PM I can't wait to see the new hilton, it will look much more impressive then the ratty old car dealership! I like Hamiltons skyline even if its is a little dated, I even like the Century 21, err i mean landmark place, i still get the names mixed up
moi aussi! i think it really matches the name "hamilton" for some reason...
zerokarma November 21st, 2005, 01:24 AM Well it is a little bland, come on, let's be honest here. It needs help.
Yea it does, like I said it has great potential but seems like the city for the most part is stuck in neutral.
rise_against November 21st, 2005, 02:33 AM which is to bad because on street level i find it has a very urban feel!
DrJoe November 21st, 2005, 03:22 AM Needs a couple of these just to add some spark.
http://photos23.flickr.com/38357970_92e4384034_o.jpg
Brett November 21st, 2005, 06:04 AM ^^ I've always wanted to play "simcity" with Hamiltons downtown. The location is steller and the results could be to. One thing i would like to see done is one or two condo towers rise out of Jackson Square. 5-10 thousand people living in the mall would really improve its business.
rise_against November 21st, 2005, 06:14 AM i think its a matter of time before hamilton has a resergance in its skyline. think of all the people that are moving into the GTA...not all of them may end up right in toronto! plus im sure alot of them may want a blue collar job...HELLO HAMILTON. more people=more density=more condo towers???
partybits November 21st, 2005, 07:22 AM Hamilton has a great amount of tall buildings considering it's size and even its proximity to Toronto. But it could use more architectural variety to the current concrete and brick high rises.
Glass point towers would do wonders to the skyline, especially since Hamilton can offer some of the greatest lake views. Condo fever is gripping most of Canada, so hopefully it will spread to Hamilton with a couple taller buildings.
Dino Domingo November 22nd, 2005, 01:18 AM In Hamilton, I have faith. I'm sure it'll come around...
:)
Steeltown November 22nd, 2005, 01:41 AM Would love to have one or two of these condos along the waterfront at Pier 8 and 9.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b2/Bonaducci1/waterfrontcondo.jpg
City won't approve a hi rise next to the waterfront. Have to stay a certain distance away from the waterfront for a hi rise, same rule in Toronto.
There is this proposal for downtown Hamilton called Hughson Square Condominiums, two 20 storey condos. It's okay just don't like the roof-top.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/Aallen396/HR4-L.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/Aallen396/HR.jpg
Kinda like a Vancouver condo expect this is blue and not green. I think this proposal is dead though. Haven't made much news lately.
algonquin November 22nd, 2005, 06:40 AM i think its a matter of time before hamilton has a resergance in its skyline. think of all the people that are moving into the GTA...not all of them may end up right in toronto! plus im sure alot of them may want a blue collar job...HELLO HAMILTON. more people=more density=more condo towers???
Thats the amazing thing about Hamilton.. it's location. I moved to Hamilton from Toronto, now I can look for jobs anywhere west of downtown TO, Hamilton itself, K/W, Guelph, Brantford even... it's so central.
I can hop on an express bus and be in Union Station in an hour (which is better than some TTC commutes within the city).
House prices in Hamilton are cheaper than not only Toronto, but any other city in Southern Ontario. It's a fucking bargain to own real estate in such an interesting urban city, and still within the GTA basically.
hobubu1 January 15th, 2007, 06:25 PM Hamilton has a nice skyline. It should be added on to :)
Nouvellecosse February 7th, 2007, 03:49 AM Hamilton has a lot of good characteristics, but I'm not crazy about the skyline. It's really just "ok" for a city of its size and urbanity.
isaidso April 5th, 2007, 11:40 PM I love Hamilton. People always ask why, completely taken aback.
Hamilton is an intensely, impressive, fully intact example of a great industrial city. It could be argued the finest in all of North America. It is a gem in the same vein as Prague is the best intact example of a fully intact midevil city in all of Europe.
Hamiltonians should not make the same mistake countless other cities including Toronto have made. Do not tear down remnants of your blue collar past out of disdain for it. Celebrate it because it is what gives your city a sense of itself, character, charm, integrity, and uniqueness. Industry built Hamilton, created it's wealth, its culture, and it is Hamilton's heritage.
Everyone told me how ugly Hamilton was, but when I visited my first time, it was love at first site. Many see the steel plants as an eye sore. I see beauty in it. Industrial landscape on such a massive scale is awe inspiring. It should never be taken down. Nothing in all of Canada comes close to matching it in scale and power.
The flat city grid, residential blocks, the bridge, the lake, Hamilton Mountain, and then that amazing Niagara Escarpement. Hollywood couldn't dream up a better cityscape.
So you don't have alot of skyscrapers. You've got an impressive collection of architecture and structure that Toronto doesn't and will never have. Toronto either lost it in the great fire, tore it down in the decades following the 60's and regrets it now, or never had it in the first place.
Go MAC! Go Tiger-Cats!
flar April 6th, 2007, 03:56 AM wow this is an old thread, here are some more Hamilton skyline shots from different vantage points:
Looking northeastly from the mountain:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/mountain/00003.jpg
looking east from Dundas Peak:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/mountain/5.jpg
looking west from Concession:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/mountain/2.jpg
The familiar view from Sam Lawrence Park (looking north):
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/mountain/nightpano.jpg
A daytime view looking north from the Mountain:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/mountain/1.jpg
Hamilton's best skyscraper, and one of Canada's earliest, the Pigott Building:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/oddstuff/00060-1.jpg
WinnipegPatriot April 7th, 2007, 04:31 PM Hamilton is a lot more flattering at street level.
zachus22 April 8th, 2007, 06:00 AM Hamilton is a lot more flattering at street level.
I would definitely agree with that. But I mean, the reason for Hamilton's somewhat 'weak' skyline is the fact it's way past its prime. Hamilton's era of economic prosperity is simply history now. The days of booming steel plants and thriving factories are long gone, and frankly, funding towards anything to do with Hamilton has dwindled down to nearly nothing ever since.
So we can say 'All Hamilton needs is a few glass condos like Toronto and it'll be set' or 'Hamilton just has to add a couple high rises to make its skyline awesome,' but the fact is, Hamilton's skyline hasn't changed for 20 years and it's not just because the municipal government is lazy.
Steeltown April 8th, 2007, 07:11 AM Changes are happening in Hamilton, population of downtown Hamilton has increase over the last 10 years. The economy is changing to research, medical and knowledge based economy.
Here's a crane being built recently for a new residential tower being built in the downtown
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q299/ray_love737/Crane03.jpg
you can see two cranes, look at the bottom centre of the picture you'll see the other crane, another condo project.
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q299/ray_love737/Crane01.jpg
phunky April 8th, 2007, 07:17 AM Someone needs to move this to the Ontario forum!
Waterloo_Guy April 9th, 2007, 03:25 AM Hamilton has insane potential. It's location is almost unrivaled, even by world standards. And it has a great stock of architecture downtown. Metro Hamilton already has a lot going for it, but it's the future of the inner city that excites me.
isaidso April 9th, 2007, 04:00 AM Waterloo Guy: couldn't agree more. The inner city has block after block of diamonds in the rough. It would be tragic if any of them faced the wreckers ball so that some uninspiring generic glass condo tower can be erected.
These architectural gems could be renovated, restored, and repackaged as highly valuable residential/retail/office space. I am not opposed to high rises, but alot of the ones erected in Hamilton take away from the city rather than add.
flar April 9th, 2007, 04:31 AM Amazing that Hamilton still has lots of great old buildings considering how many have been torn down already. There are lots of parking lots where new buildings could be built.
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