View Full Version : Asia's Finest, The Hong Kong Police Force


Manila-X
November 15th, 2005, 06:58 AM
http://www.hkua.org.hk/Links/logo_Police.gif

HK's police force is argubly the best in Asia and one of the best in the world. Founded in 1844, it is one of the oldest but also one of the most modern in this region.

The force

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/uniforms/images/ub/ub004.jpg
This is the current uniform of the HK Police Force. Unlike the summer green and winter navy blue uniforms, this is worn throughout the year.

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/uniforms/images/ub/ub005.jpg
Another view but this time, uniforms of women officers are also shown.

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/offbeat/634/images/ob63425.jpg
Motorcycle police wear a bright yellow jacket instead of navy blue.

The fleet

While police forces in other countries use patrol cars, HK Police use patrol vans. The standard patrol van is a Mercedes Sprinter or Ford Transit.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6a/Sprinter_314_Police_HK.jpg
Mercedes Sprinter

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/vehicles/images/veh/transit_ford.jpg
Ford Transit

Other vehicles

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Trooper_Police_HK.jpg
Isuzu Trooper

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/vehicles/images/veh/trooper_benz814d.jpg
Trooper Benz 814D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/CBX750P_Police_HK.jpg
Honda CBX 750P

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Coaster_Police_HK.jpg
Toyota Coaster

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Capella_Police_HK.jpg
Mazda Capella

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/vehicles/images/veh/force_mobile_command_unit.jpg
Mobile Command Unit

For more info, please check out
http://info.gov.hk/police

Manila-X
November 15th, 2005, 09:27 AM
Police Tactical Unit (PTU)

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/PTU_1_jpg.jpg

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/PTU_3_jpg.jpg

zergcerebrates
November 21st, 2005, 11:37 AM
Seen it in HK films all the time lolz. I like the uniforms though, although you can hardly tell that in these pics. I like how they change it to black for winter and green for summers.

Manila-X
November 21st, 2005, 11:51 AM
Seen it in HK films all the time lolz. I like the uniforms though, although you can hardly tell that in these pics. I like how they change it to black for winter and green for summers.

That was before. It was green for the summers and navy blue for the winters. Today, they wear a light blue uniform all year long just like the photo above.

Manila-X
November 21st, 2005, 12:18 PM
A century of police uniforms :)

1920s - 1930s officer
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/people1/images/1920%20to%20mid%201930s_jpg_jpg.jpg

1925 special constable
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/people1/images/1925%20special%20constable_jpg_jpg.jpg

1960s rural patrol unit
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/people1/images/1960s%20rural%20patrol%20unit_jpg_jpg.jpg

1950s-1960s
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/people1/images/1950s%20to%201960s_jpg_jpg.jpg

1960s traffic
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/people1/images/1960s%20traffic_jpg_jpg.jpg

1960s female officer
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/people1/images/1960s_jpg_jpg.jpg

1965 to 1987 female officer
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/people1/images/1965%20to%201987_2_jpg_jpg.jpg

1972-2004 winter uniform
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/people1/images/1972%20to%202004_ip_jpg_jpg.jpg

1976-2004 summer uniform
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/people1/images/1976%20to%202004_jpo_jpg_jpg.jpg

1988-2004 female officer summer uniform
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/people1/images/1988%20to%202004_jpg_jpg.jpg

1980s female officer winter uniform
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/people1/images/1980s%20WPC_jpg_jpg.jpg

ceremonial dress
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/people1/images/ceremonial%20dress_jpg_jpg.jpg

Manila-X
November 21st, 2005, 12:22 PM
today

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/UB_5_jpg.jpg

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/UB_4_jpg.jpg

zergcerebrates
November 22nd, 2005, 02:06 AM
Oh man! I don't like their new style. Light blue looks like a security guard and whats with the light jacket..sigh. Mainland Chinese police uniform actually looks much better than HK's now.

Manila-X
November 22nd, 2005, 05:39 AM
I don't like their new uniforms either. But I think the reason why they decided to change uniforms because they want something that will adapt to any season so they choose light blue as their color. Ok the light blue uniform itself is lame but they look better with the jackets.

On the other hand, the former uniforms look better but it's still has that British influence on it. Especially during the summers when HK cops prefer green while cops in other countries prefer blue or white.

Manila-X
November 22nd, 2005, 12:13 PM
The Hong Kong Marine Police fleet

Boston Whaler
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/Boston_Whaler_25_jpg.jpg

Damen Cougartek
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/Damen_Cougartek_jpg.jpg

Damek MK-I
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/Damen_Mk_I_jpg.jpg

Seaspray (Logistics)
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/Seaspray_(Logistics)_jpg.jpg

Damen MK-III
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/Damen_Mk_III_jpg.jpg

Fast Pursuit Craft
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/Fast_Pursuit_Craft_jpg.jpg

Harbour Patrol Launch
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/Harbour_Patrol_Launch_jpg.jpg

Sharkcat
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/Sharkcat_jpg.jpg

Inshore Patrol Craft
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/Inshore_Patrol_Craft_jpg.jpg

KEKA
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/KEKA_jpg.jpg

Police Barge
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/Police_Barge_jpg.jpg

TASI
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/TASI_jpg.jpg

cphdude
November 22nd, 2005, 12:29 PM
what are we suposed to think`? they seam well dressed, but i dont think that is a priority of a policeforce...however based on a few pics, thats all i can say..

Manila-X
November 22nd, 2005, 01:15 PM
Dressing is not really a priority of a police force but it symbolizes law and authority and also respect.

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/UB_4_jpg.jpg

BTW, If you look at pic above, they seemed pretty innocent, approachable, less aggressive and friendly. Compare them to this :)

http://www.thelaphotographer.com/photo/lapd.jpg

Which one would you NOT want to mess with?

kurklk
November 22nd, 2005, 10:08 PM
I see the point the HK police do not look to menacing.. Compared to US(where i live) and India (where I grew up) up defenately do not want to mess with them. HK guys do look like they will be very helpfull and (according to Supercop I II III IV V atleast) They al know karate/kungfu.. haha Just kidding. I guess you cannot judge a person by their looks

Manila-X
November 23rd, 2005, 07:10 AM
To be honest, American cops are scary especially the LAPD! NYPD, SFPD, and Chicago police department are some exceptions. It's because the crime rate in the United States is higher and more serious compared to HK. Also, HK's residents are not allowed to own or carry firearms thus they are unarmed. The revolver is the standard issue handgun for a HK police officer compared to Berreta or Gloc-9 for US. Hong Kong is one of the safest cities in the world and it's residents aren't as violent of aggressive compared to the United States so HK cops aren't that aggressive.

HK police officers are trained in self defense but the most common is Wing Tsun, a form of Kung Fu. But those in the special units are more trained in martial arts and self defense compared with local officers.

Manila-X
November 23rd, 2005, 07:18 AM
But if the going gets tough

http://www.hkdsc.com/images/police/police_patches/sdu_patch_lg.jpg

http://www.sdupro.com/image/gallery/gallery_001.jpg

http://www.sdupro.com/image/sdu_001.jpg

http://www.hkpro.com/image/action2hongkong.jpg

http://www.sdupro.com/image/gallery/gallery_002.jpg

http://www.sdupro.com/image/gallery/gallery_005.jpg

http://www.sdupro.com/image/gallery/gallery_003.jpg

http://www.sdupro.com/image/gallery/gallery_004.jpg

Bonshita
November 24th, 2005, 08:56 AM
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/amerpol.jpg
What are you talking about? American cops dont scare me!

zergcerebrates
November 24th, 2005, 09:03 AM
Do they still wear the jackets during the hot summers?

Manila-X
November 24th, 2005, 09:09 AM
Do they still wear the jackets during the hot summers?

Of course not but I would be surprised if anyone did!

Most likely when they enter a building since alot of buildings in HK have their aircons in full blast!

Submarine Street
November 24th, 2005, 09:22 AM
I like that female police officer. :)

Hong Kong should really reduce the AC, I always get a cold when I come from outside all sweaty, and inside my sweat starts to get really cold and I get sick, lol.

Cymen
November 24th, 2005, 10:47 AM
Dressing is not really a priority of a police force but it symbolizes law and authority and also respect.

IMG

BTW, If you look at pic above, they seemed pretty innocent, approachable, less aggressive and friendly. Compare them to this :)

IMG

Which one would you NOT want to mess with?


Now that's American-style thinking ;) Solving problems with brute force instead of preventing them.....

Manila-X
December 23rd, 2005, 07:51 AM
During the WTO meeting

http://appledaily.atnext.com/images/apple-photos/640pix/20051218/Article_news/18ls1p11aaa.jpg

http://appledaily.atnext.com/images/apple-photos/640pix/20051218/Article_news/18la2p9.jpg

http://www.singpao.com/20051218/photos/m793542SP.jpg

http://tinypic.com/ip48ye.jpg

http://appledaily.atnext.com/images/apple-photos/640pix/20051217/Article_news/17la2p4new1.jpg

http://appledaily.atnext.com/images/apple-photos/640pix/20051218/Article_news/18la2p15.jpg

http://tinypic.com/ip42vr.jpg

Talbot
December 23rd, 2005, 08:42 AM
today

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/UB_5_jpg.jpg

The two women almost look fake, kind of scary actually. Seriously though, if I were in the local police force or mostly any police force for that matter I would be pretty jealous of HKPD vehicles.

Manila-X
December 23rd, 2005, 08:50 AM
The two women almost look fake, kind of scary actually. Seriously though, if I were in the local police force or mostly any police force for that matter I would be pretty jealous of HKPD vehicles.

I don't think they're real cops but models! But in real life, HK cops are more approachable and less agressive compared to US cops.

ejd03
December 23rd, 2005, 07:38 PM
What do you think about Hong Kong's Police Force?

http://www.hkua.org.hk/Links/logo_Police.gif

http://www.maj.com/gallery/tcsk/Reference/HongKongPolice/NewUniform/004.jpg

http://www.maj.com/gallery/tcsk/Reference/HongKongPolice/NewUniform/003.jpg

http://www.maj.com/gallery/tcsk/Reference/HongKongPolice/NewUniform/007.jpg

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/PTU_2_jpg.jpg

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/Trooper_Benz814D_jpg.jpg

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/Inshore_Patrol_Craft_jpg.jpg

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/Force_Mobile_Command_Unit_jpg.jpg

"Bad boys, bad boys; Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do; When they come for you"

they look evil honestly :) theives are peeing off their pants

Siopao
December 23rd, 2005, 07:44 PM
Hong Kong Police force is weak.

Hecago
December 24th, 2005, 08:15 AM
Hong Kong police force A century from now:

http://www.hairyfishnuts.com/images/stormtroopers.jpg

Manila-X
December 27th, 2005, 06:21 AM
Hong Kong Police force is weak.

I don't think so ;)

From Terrence, More of the WTO riots

http://www.youtough.com/hkpolice/images/18la3p1aaa.jpg

http://www.youtough.com/hkpolice/images/3272437853.jpg

http://www.youtough.com/hkpolice/images/tvb/yahoo/20051214124133b2a6f.jpg

http://www.youtough.com/hkpolice/images/18la1p102aaa.jpg

http://www.youtough.com/hkpolice/images/18lp2p9.jpg

http://www.youtough.com/hkpolice/images/18lp2p10.jpg

http://www.youtough.com/hkpolice/images/18la1p102aaa.jpg

http://www.youtough.com/hkpolice/images/18la3p3.jpg

Manila-X
December 27th, 2005, 06:24 AM
http://skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/1218nhkm01b1_8mz5UfSWYBZG.jpg

http://skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/1218nhkm01b2_NXkYNZE0AMw1.jpg

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http://skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/1218nhko07b1_BZ1vBLsmxNQZ.jpg

Manila-X
December 27th, 2005, 06:25 AM
http://skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/m793525SP_WTebOcw1jVvr.jpg

http://skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/m793527SP_uqbsnelrvoFc.jpg

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http://skyscrapers.cn/forum/attachments/sn02121804_big_unAGhnu3uU7U.jpg

rise_against
December 27th, 2005, 10:07 PM
being in a riot would be scary...but kind of fun too...

Manila-X
December 29th, 2005, 09:49 AM
being in a riot would be scary...but kind of fun too...

I would find it more fun than scary :D But scary if you're a riot police!

Prior to this one, there haven't any serious riots in HK since the mid 1960s. But the HK Police did a good job in handling this incident :)

silly thing
December 29th, 2005, 02:52 PM
Hong Kong Police force is weak.
hey man hk is the safest world city in the world

Indica
December 31st, 2005, 03:48 AM
Dressing is not really a priority of a police force but it symbolizes law and authority and also respect.

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/UB_4_jpg.jpg

BTW, If you look at pic above, they seemed pretty innocent, approachable, less aggressive and friendly. Compare them to this :)

http://www.thelaphotographer.com/photo/lapd.jpg

Which one would you NOT want to mess with?



:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

I was just going to say the same thing... here in Los Angeles, Im more afraid of the cops than the criminals themselves!! In those pics, I dont see police that look like they are hell-bent on a power trip. 98% of all the police over here are like that, and they are more worried here about writing tickets to support their dept. than actually helping out with crime it seems. Brings new meaning to the saying, "they are never around when you need them." Too bad the "next to useless LAPD" weren't around earlier this year when my Tbird got stolen. now that car is in millions of pieces being sold in TJ... :bash: :bash:

Manila-X
January 2nd, 2006, 06:24 AM
hey man hk is the safest world city in the world

I think HK is one of the safest but not the safest! There's also Singapore!

The reasons why HK is one of the safest is not just the police force. True that the HK police are one of the most modern and efficient police force in Asia and they're doing a good job maintaining peace and order despite having a revolver as the standard issue handgun.

But it is also HK is a small place and the situation in this region can be controlled! Another is the law where HK is fortunately less strict compared to Singapore! If someone commits a capital offence in HK, he or she will serve his/her sentence in a HK prison and in the mainland. There is no death penalty in HK so the authorities there are more lenient compared to Singapore. Corruption is less of a problem in HK since it's one of the least corrupted cities in the world. Also, the general public in HK are forbidden to own or carry a firearm.

Most of HK's residents are peace loving and are non violent. So alot of people who create trouble in HK are not from other countries.

Manila-X
January 2nd, 2006, 06:31 AM
:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

I was just going to say the same thing... here in Los Angeles, Im more afraid of the cops than the criminals themselves!! In those pics, I dont see police that look like they are hell-bent on a power trip. 98% of all the police over here are like that, and they are more worried here about writing tickets to support their dept. than actually helping out with crime it seems. Brings new meaning to the saying, "they are never around when you need them." Too bad the "next to useless LAPD" weren't around earlier this year when my Tbird got stolen. now that car is in millions of pieces being sold in TJ... :bash: :bash:

I ended up comparing HK's police with LA's because I was there during the crowd dispersal incident during the B-Boy Summit even at Venice Beach back in the late 90s.

Those cops you're talking about are probably the low ranked officers. How about the high-profile ones like the characters in the movie Training Day?

mayang3
April 4th, 2006, 12:38 PM
HI Guys...is anyone of you here is a HK traffic officer? Love the uniform and motorcycle so much. Message me pls via email ? thks James

andysimo123
April 4th, 2006, 12:44 PM
Them cops couldnt catch a cold.

Manila-X
April 4th, 2006, 12:50 PM
HI Guys...is anyone of you here is a HK traffic officer? Love the uniform and motorcycle so much. Message me pls via email ? thks James

Definitely not me :D But I like the motorcycle division of HKP.

http://www.maj.com/gallery/tcsk/Reference/HongKongPolice/HondaMotorcycle/newh005.jpg

http://www.maj.com/gallery/tcsk/Reference/HongKongPolice/HondaMotorcycle/a05.jpg

kaunaz
April 4th, 2006, 01:11 PM
Dressing is not really a priority of a police force but it symbolizes law and authority and also respect.

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/photo/tvf/images/UB_4_jpg.jpg

BTW, If you look at pic above, they seemed pretty innocent, approachable, less aggressive and friendly. Compare them to this :)

http://www.thelaphotographer.com/photo/lapd.jpg

Which one would you NOT want to mess with?
That's ridiculous to see such American policemens... :hilarious Probably the most stupid policemens in the world, and also the most brutally. I can't stop laughthing when I see that idiot with the gun... :D Maybe they watch too many Hollywood films? :)

Manila-X
April 4th, 2006, 01:18 PM
That's ridiculous to see such American policemens... :hilarious Probably the most stupid policemens in the world, and also the most brutally. I can't stop laughthing when I see that idiot with the gun... :D Maybe they watch too many Hollywood films? :)

Not all especially The NYPD.

But LAPD aren't stupid but they are aggressive. Especially if you dealing with these kinds of people

http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2005/mar/salvador_gangs/main_lg.jpg

http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2005/mar/salvador_gangs/gallery7.jpg

http://gangresearch.net/GangResearch/Policy/images/ms-1.jpg

http://steelturman.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gang_bangers.JPG

We don't have these kinds of gangs in HK. We have triads and some minority youths commiting petty crimes but their activites don't affect public safety. HK is still one of the safest in the world.

kaunaz
April 4th, 2006, 01:40 PM
Don't you think that it is stupid to keep the on the suspect who is on the ground and the face down to the floor?
And I have seen many videos about the police catching drivers for speeding, after that they also take their guns and they were 7 beating one driver.

Manila-X
April 5th, 2006, 12:00 PM
Don't you think that it is stupid to keep the on the suspect who is on the ground and the face down to the floor?
And I have seen many videos about the police catching drivers for speeding, after that they also take their guns and they were 7 beating one driver.

I think it's a standard police procedure since it's easier to cuff the suspect and to make sure that the suspect won't be a threat to the officer like being able to use a concealed weapon if he/she has one.

Anyway, police brutality, along with corruption is one of those concerns especially in The United States and other less developed countries. It happens but good thing there are some who are punished for this crime.

♣628.finst
April 11th, 2006, 11:58 AM
We don't have these kinds of gangs in HK. We have triads and some minority youths commiting petty crimes but their activites don't affect public safety. HK is still one of the safest in the world.

I think there are many gangs in HK actually. Many people there looks pretty aggressive, especially those uneducated youths--- is definitely not the safest in the world, but could be compare to cities like LA or Tokyo... It has a safe downtown area, that's true... but don't you know most people in HK live in dreary conditions with small flats and badly-educated background that is more common than Canada or Switzerland.

Manila-X
April 17th, 2006, 10:52 AM
I think there are many gangs in HK actually. Many people there looks pretty aggressive, especially those uneducated youths--- is definitely not the safest in the world, but could be compare to cities like LA or Tokyo... It has a safe downtown area, that's true... but don't you know most people in HK live in dreary conditions with small flats and badly-educated background that is more common than Canada or Switzerland.

Gangs that are related in organized crime are called triads in HK and there are several high profile ones like Sun Yee On or 14-K.

HK may not be the safest in the world but it's one of the safest cities. And living conditions in HK is not a factor for commiting crime. The Kowloon Walled City had some of the worst conditions in the world but has a low crime rate in it's later years.

hkskyline
April 17th, 2006, 06:19 PM
I think there are many gangs in HK actually. Many people there looks pretty aggressive, especially those uneducated youths--- is definitely not the safest in the world, but could be compare to cities like LA or Tokyo... It has a safe downtown area, that's true... but don't you know most people in HK live in dreary conditions with small flats and badly-educated background that is more common than Canada or Switzerland.
Literacy rates in HK are on par with the West. Despite crowded living conditions, HK's crime rate is actually lower than Canada's largest city.

sravan2569
April 17th, 2006, 09:45 PM
They are good at riot control, but are they good at real police work like anti-corruption, scandals, murders, conspiracies?

hkskyline
April 18th, 2006, 12:56 AM
Anti-corruption activities are undertaken by an independent commission named the ICAC. Website : http://www.icac.org.hk/eng/main/

Manila-X
April 18th, 2006, 02:55 PM
They are good at riot control, but are they good at real police work like anti-corruption, scandals, murders, conspiracies?

Like hkskyline mentioed, there's the ICAC. But these sort of problems is rare in HK and are very low.

As for the triads, The HK Police has it's own division for these such as The Organized Crime And Triad Bureau.

♣628.finst
April 18th, 2006, 02:56 PM
Literacy rates in HK are on par with the West. Despite crowded living conditions, HK's crime rate is actually lower than Canada's largest city.

Actually the most dangerous medium-sized city in Canada--- probably Regina, or Saskatoon, here. It's strange that we have rather good living standard, with reasonable income and education--- yet the lower class still troubles our cities.

Manila-X
April 18th, 2006, 03:03 PM
Actually the most dangerous medium-sized city in Canada--- probably Regina, or Saskatoon, here. It's strange that we have rather good living standard, with reasonable income and education--- yet the lower class still troubles our cities.

Just wanna know, is the general public allowed to own or carry firearms in Canada? In HK, we're not allowed.

I think the reason why the lower class commit such crimes is because of discrimation from those who are more fortunate than them.

♣628.finst
April 20th, 2006, 06:38 PM
Just wanna know, is the general public allowed to own or carry firearms in Canada? In HK, we're not allowed.

I think the reason why the lower class commit such crimes is because of discrimation from those who are more fortunate than them.

Possibly that's because our education is very relaxed and large degree of freedom is granted for today's kids--- probably more than 90% finished high school... and 50% have a chance to study in tertiary institutions or universities--- however, today the situation is not much improved from the 1960s, when Saskatchewan and Manitoba was still "developing provinces" in a "developed country"--- it's largely because of the industrialisation lags behind, and we catched up since the 1980s. Canadian culture, probably respect more freedom than Asian ones--- leads to these problems. Though nowadays... I've visited Hong Kong in 1995, 2001 and 2004, I think Hong Kong Youths are increasingly "Americanised" and at the same time, greatly influenced by Chinese rule in 2001. Their lifestyle is more like Asian-Americans, as well as their appearance. That was not the case when I first visited there (1991)--- it was an average, developing city, looked very conservative Asian, and it was however, seems more dangerous than later visits because youths in Kowloon were really poor and rude (Also, I did not visit the Kowloon in later visits because the beautiful nature and massive skyscrapers on the Island side is totally distracting for me) --- and I did not visit the famous Walled City... and now it was demolished. Anyway Hong Kong was once famous of their brutal architecture and conservative nature--- recently seems it has changed a little bit.

Manila-X
April 21st, 2006, 10:29 AM
Possibly that's because our education is very relaxed and large degree of freedom is granted for today's kids--- probably more than 90% finished high school... and 50% have a chance to study in tertiary institutions or universities--- however, today the situation is not much improved from the 1960s, when Saskatchewan and Manitoba was still "developing provinces" in a "developed country"--- it's largely because of the industrialisation lags behind, and we catched up since the 1980s. Canadian culture, probably respect more freedom than Asian ones--- leads to these problems. Though nowadays... I've visited Hong Kong in 1995, 2001 and 2004, I think Hong Kong Youths are increasingly "Americanised" and at the same time, greatly influenced by Chinese rule in 2001. Their lifestyle is more like Asian-Americans, as well as their appearance. That was not the case when I first visited there (1991)--- it was an average, developing city, looked very conservative Asian, and it was however, seems more dangerous than later visits because youths in Kowloon were really poor and rude (Also, I did not visit the Kowloon in later visits because the beautiful nature and massive skyscrapers on the Island side is totally distracting for me) --- and I did not visit the famous Walled City... and now it was demolished. Anyway Hong Kong was once famous of their brutal architecture and conservative nature--- recently seems it has changed a little bit.

Not really Americanized. Though Japanese pop culture has a strong influence on HK youths.

BTW, doesn't Canada get alot of immigrants as well?

Rachmaninov
April 22nd, 2006, 08:59 AM
Actually, HK youngsters are strongly influenced by the Japanese, who in turn are half influenced by America.

Xantarx, do believe that Hong Kong is one of the safest city in the world (and indeed HK's suburban area is more well-controlled than those of LA's). As for the corruption issue, it is interesting to note that government officials from cities like Singapore come to Hong Kong to see how the ICAC works.

One problem of Hong Kong's movie industry is that they tend to love making movies on triads. Triads are actually not a major problem in Hong Kong, and indeed it would be impossible to see street combat scenes with the police in real life!!! In the past 30 years, I am only aware of two or three crimes involved with the use of firearms.

Manila-X
April 22nd, 2006, 09:02 AM
Actually, HK youngsters are strongly influenced by the Japanese, who in turn are half influenced by America.

Xantarx, do believe that Hong Kong is one of the safest city in the world (and indeed HK's suburban area is more well-controlled than those of LA's). As for the corruption issue, it is interesting to note that government officials from cities like Singapore come to Hong Kong to see how the ICAC works.

One problem of Hong Kong's movie industry is that they tend to love making movies on triads. Triads are actually not a major problem in Hong Kong, and indeed it would be impossible to see street combat scenes with the police in real life!!! In the past 30 years, I am only aware of two or three crimes involved with the use of firearms.

The worst incident that I heard involving firearms was a shootout that happened in Central back in the mid-90s. I think it was a bank heist done by the AK-47 gang.

Manila-X
March 28th, 2007, 08:22 AM
It's been a long time since I've seen this thread but this is a promotion video done back in 2002 :)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkxEbXlhBy4

gladisimo
March 28th, 2007, 09:19 AM
haha you dug up such an old thread. Hong Kong's crime is, by real experience, extraordinarily low for a city of its size, even out in the housing estates. Plus, policemen there are much more courteous than American ones, in my experience, both in Chinese and English.

Manila-X
March 29th, 2007, 10:51 AM
haha you dug up such an old thread. Hong Kong's crime is, by real experience, extraordinarily low for a city of its size, even out in the housing estates. Plus, policemen there are much more courteous than American ones, in my experience, both in Chinese and English.

I was born and raised in HK and I never witnessed any crime.

I agree that HK police are courteous but I don't like how they do those random ID card and body search.

Anyway, for emergency, just dial 999 :D

googleabcd
March 29th, 2007, 06:02 PM
Well...Not bad, but it depends on how you define finest...
Obviously, in terms of combat ability, HK doesn't seem to be the finest..

gladisimo
March 29th, 2007, 06:16 PM
I was born and raised in HK and I never witnessed any crime.

I agree that HK police are courteous but I don't like how they do those random ID card and body search.

Anyway, for emergency, just dial 999 :D

I lived in Hong Kong until I was 9, then spend about a month every year there...

I dont see crime often, the one time I saw police was when they closed up a street and had a bunch of SWAT guys outside a club, I think they were arresting prostitutes.

Random ID checks are done, afaik, because of illegal immigrants from the mainland, I seldom see a whole body search, almost never.

Manila-X
March 30th, 2007, 07:07 AM
Well...Not bad, but it depends on how you define finest...
Obviously, in terms of combat ability, HK doesn't seem to be the finest..

That's debatable. I had that debate in the Philippine Forums when I stated that Manila cops have more battle experience compared to HK cops. But gun crime rarely happens in HK and if it does, the HK police can handle the situation well.

Gladisimo, They're not called SWAT but SDU or Special Duties Unit. And yes I have been searched many time cause they think I'm a triad member or an illegal immigrant since I'm not Chinese :D

.............

Think HK police don't have what it takes, check this out :D

gcN4cJheedM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcN4cJheedM

gladisimo
March 30th, 2007, 11:43 AM
"Flying Tigers" :banana:

I remember watching that moving PTU (irrelevant, but I just remembered it)

googleabcd
March 30th, 2007, 06:15 PM
Flying tiger team is not bad, but it is just armed police.
In term of real special force, I think PLA's specail force(WinterWolf) is the best in Asia and TOP3 in the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkZ_A0MV3V0

http://www.youtube.com/v/rkZ_A0MV3V0
Sorry, don't know how to embed the flash into the post
That's debatable. I had that debate in the Philippine Forums when I stated that Manila cops have more battle experience compared to HK cops. But gun crime rarely happens in HK and if it does, the HK police can handle the situation well.

Gladisimo, They're not called SWAT but SDU or Special Duties Unit. And yes I have been searched many time cause they think I'm a triad member or an illegal immigrant since I'm not Chinese :D

.............

Think HK police don't have what it takes, check this out :D

gcN4cJheedM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcN4cJheedM

gladisimo
March 31st, 2007, 01:20 PM
Here you go:

rkZ_A0MV3V0

btw, the thing is, the PLA is an army, HK police, like you said is just police, Hong Kong is neither big enough nor have sovereignty to have its own Spec Ops, which, have different responsibilities than a SWAT team...

Sen
April 1st, 2007, 07:01 PM
LOL Hong Kong police looks weak, this is a video of South Korea riot police, this is whack.
KKJyR_JFOKs

Manila-X
April 2nd, 2007, 09:27 AM
eabcd;12419666]Flying tiger team is not bad, but it is just armed police.
In term of real special force, I think PLA's specail force(WinterWolf) is the best in Asia and TOP3 in the world.[/QUOTE]

You can't compare SDU to Winterwolf. Winterwolf is more ranked as military while SDU is police.

SDU is better off being compared to NYPD's Emergency Service Unit, LAPD's SWAT or Singapore's S.T.A.R.

I'm not that familiar with China's police forces but I'm sure they have SWAT or special units as well.

odegaard
April 9th, 2007, 08:06 AM
Women police in Iran (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv4G7ecWCuU) :banana:

googleabcd
April 10th, 2007, 03:14 AM
eabcd;12419666]Flying tiger team is not bad, but it is just armed police.
In term of real special force, I think PLA's specail force(WinterWolf) is the best in Asia and TOP3 in the world.

You can't compare SDU to Winterwolf. Winterwolf is more ranked as military while SDU is police.

SDU is better off being compared to NYPD's Emergency Service Unit, LAPD's SWAT or Singapore's S.T.A.R.

I'm not that familiar with China's police forces but I'm sure they have SWAT or special units as well.[/QUOTE]


Beijing swat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9adRQrN7Tc

odegaard
April 10th, 2007, 06:13 AM
America's Finest!....this is the way we do it in the USA :cheers:
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Manila-X
April 10th, 2007, 01:06 PM
Beijing swat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9adRQrN7Tc

Thanks for the link. Beijing's SWAT unit is well trained but I'm curious, do they also use MP5 as a standard submachine gun other than what they're using right now.

HK's Special Duties Unit has the HK MP5 as their main weapon just like other special units.

googleabcd
April 11th, 2007, 03:24 AM
Thanks for the link. Beijing's SWAT unit is well trained but I'm curious, do they also use MP5 as a standard submachine gun other than what they're using right now.

HK's Special Duties Unit has the HK MP5 as their main weapon just like other special units.


Chinese SWAT uses a special version of Type95, it is much more powerful than MP5

The memebers of Beijing WinterWolf SWAT are selected from millions of armed police in China, they are the elites of elites.
The cost of equiments for each WinterWolf member is more than $50,000 USD.
In terms of combat and shooting skills, the WinterWolf team should be the world's best SWAT

http://upload.mop.com/user/2006/05/18/12/1147884598402.jpg

http://upload.mop.com/user/2006/05/18/12/1147884640411.jpg

http://upload.mop.com/user/2006/05/18/01/1147887976316.jpg

http://upload.mop.com/user/2006/05/18/01/1147887969590.jpg

Type95 series
http://upload.mop.com/user/2006/05/18/08/1147913306810.jpg

http://upload.mop.com/user/2006/05/18/08/1147913252589.jpg

http://dzh.mop.com/topic/main/readSubMain_6637909_0.html

googleabcd
April 11th, 2007, 03:36 AM
normal SWAT
http://upload.mop.com/user/2006/05/18/04/1147940381070.jpg

Real Chinese special fore, Guangzhou region
http://upload.mop.com/user/2006/05/18/02/1147934343295.jpg

superchan7
April 12th, 2007, 01:32 AM
Those look like rifles. MP5 cannot be compared, it only fires 9mm handgun rounds!

hmmwv
April 13th, 2007, 11:00 AM
I think HK SDU is one of the finest SWAT in the world, I don't know any other SWATs have Blackhawk support or trained to do underwater insertion.

Manila-X
April 13th, 2007, 11:36 AM
I think HK SDU is one of the finest SWAT in the world, I don't know any other SWATs have Blackhawk support or trained to do underwater insertion.

The SDU gets alot of training from The British SAS which is a major influence on them.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/SDU_WT_patch.jpg

http://www.sdupro.com/image/gallery/gallery_005.jpg

http://www.sdupro.com/image/gallery/gallery_002.jpg

Magic Night
April 19th, 2007, 09:36 AM
The Special Duties Unit (Abbreviation: SDU; Traditional Chinese: 特別任務連, nicknamed 飛虎隊 Flying Tigers) is a secretive and elite paramilitary police unit of the Hong Kong Police. Established in July 1974, it is a sub-division of the Police Tactical Unit (PTU). Its primary functions include counter-terrorism, anti-narcotic raids, hostage rescue and other crimes (usually involving firearms) which are deemed too dangerous for local police to handle. The unit holds regular training exercises with similar units from around the world.

Origins & History

The establishment of SDU can be traced back to an incident on March 13, 1971, when a plane from Philippine Airlines was hijacked and landed in Kai Tak Airport. Though the incident was resolved peacefully, the Hong Kong Police Force became concerned that a similar incident will occur in the future. A "marksmen squad" (神槍手隊) was assembled in 1973 and later re-organised into the Special Duties Unit in 1974.

The unit is modelled after the British SAS. When SAS personnel came to Hong Kong in 1978 to refine their CQB techniques as well as training syllabus, SDU received their training from the SAS.

In its 30 year history, the SDU has evolved into a unit capable of conducting operations through air, land and sea. It consists of a support group, administration group and the action group. The action group is the core of the unit, further categorised into the land assault team, the water assault team and the sniper team.

SBS operators also helped SDU develop its own specialitst marine attack unit (known as the Marine Counter Terrorist Team; nicknamed: 水鬼隊 "Water Devils") after an incident in the early 1980s. Due to its highly specialist nature, the Marine Counter Terrorist Team has achieved an almost legendary reputation and has thus often been compared with the United States Navy SEALs. An SDU sniper in the team was seriously injured when having joint training with SEAL Team 6 in 1991, during a ship-boarding exercise.

The Marine Counter Terrorist Team was later disbanded in 2000, due to the fact that all current SDU operators are equally trained and proficient in maritime operations.

Training & Selection

To maintain the SDU's high standards, recruitment exercises are not open to the general public. To even qualify for the recruitment, one must have a minimum two years service in the Hong Kong Police, and to be both a non-smoker and non-alcoholic. The selection process is very stringent, with a high drop-out rate; out of approximately 30,000 police officers in Hong Kong, only about 100 are selected to enlist in the SDU.

The officers in the unit maintain a high degree of secrecy and only the closest family members know their true identity.

Interestingly, the SDU does not enforce a retirement age, due to the unit's emphasis on overall personal capability rather than physical prowess alone; an officer only retires when he wants to resign or has become incapable of fulfilling his duties.

The officers in SDU enjoy a comparatively high salary, a typical officer can expect to afford an expensive car or other luxuries in his first year of service. At their retirement, they are paid a lump sum of HK$2,000,000 and still receive a monthly pay-check. Henceforth, even though the life of a SDU officer is a dangerous and lonely one, it is at least financially stable.

Equipment & weapons

Pistol
Colt M10 (Early 70s - late 70s)
Browning Mk3 (Late 70s - early 90s)
Glock 17 (Early 90s - present)

Submachine Guns
MP5A3 (Early 80s - present)
MP5A5 (Early 80s - present)
MP5SD3 (Early 80s - present)

Rifles
AR-15 (Early 70s - early 80s)
XM-177 (1982 - 2000)
MC-51 (1992 - 1996)
M-4 (2001 - present, as medium range sniper rifle)
G-36KV (2001 - present, as medium range sniper rifle)

Shotguns
Remington 870 (Early 80s - present)
Benelli M1 Super 90 (Early 80s - present)


Sniper Rifle
G3SG-1 (Early 80s - early 90s)
PSG-1 (Late 80s - 2005)
L42A1 (Early 80s - 90s)
L96A1 (Early 90s - present)
SR-25 (Late 90s - present)
SSG-2000 (Early 90s - present)

Known Operations

During a robbery in 1992, four robbers with AK-47 assault rifles battled the SDU, resulting in 7 operators injured. As a result of this incident, their CQB technique was further refined in order to fit Hong Kong's unique urban environment, and new equipment were added to the SDU's arsenal.

Before Christmas Eve of 2003, the most wanted person in Hong Kong was arrested in a joint raid between the SDU and Criminal Intelligence Branch (CIB, Team D). No shots were fired during the raid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Duties_Unit





"Flying Tigers" Roar for Consular Corps

THEY are Hong Kong's elite counter-terrorist team - the Special Duties Unit. Aka - the 'Flying Tigers".

Recently they were deployed not to deal with terrorists or dangerous criminals but to demonstrate their capabilities to Consular Corps members whose leaders will be in Hong Kong at the end of the month to witness the territory's change of sovereignty, and to strengthen the international community's confidence in post-Colonial Hong Kong's ability to deal with terrorism.

Indeed, members of the international community through their Consular representatives were again assured by the Commissioner of Police Eddie Hui Ki-on that the Force will continue its fight against international terrorism after the handover.

Mr Hui made the remarks to more than 20 Consular representatives before the Special Duties Unit demonstration at the Police Tactical Unit Headquarters.

"I wish to take this opportunity to state clearly our commitment in the fight against international terrorism. The Force's counter-terrorist unit - Special Duties Unit - provides an effective response to any such threat,"he said.

"The team is highly trained, well-equipped and consists of the best and the brightest. Its well-developed strike capabilities have earned it a solid international reputation and the SDU is held in high regard by its overseas counterparts.

"With the impending change of Hong Kong's sovereignty, I hope to stress that our determination to fight against international terrorism will remain unchanged after 1997."

The operations began with helicopter deployments of assault teams onto the roof of a building as part of the Unit's emergency response. Wearing dark balaclavas over their heads, gas masks, bullet resistant vests and brandishing high-powered machine guns, pistols, and combat knives, the "Flying Tigers" launched their assault.

The Unit is trained to strike strongholds like buildings, ships, aircraft or trains and can operate on land, sea or in the air.


Special Duties Unit

Members of the Consular Corps took a closer look at climbing and absailing techniques of the "Flying Tigers" outside the Close Quarter Battle House, while demonstrations of close quarter engagement and hand-to-hand combat skills were held inside the CQBH. There was also an equipment display. Consular representatives were then taken to the 100-metres range to see for themselves the shooting skills of snipers (who serve as the eyes and ears of the SDU), as well as assault personnel who deployed explosive distraction devices.

"The Consular Corps representatives were impressed by the professionalism, stealth and skill of the SDU. I believe they found the presentations interesting and informative," said the SDU's Chief Inspector Danko Au Yeung Chiu-kong.

"Our Unit will be on full standby during the farewell and handover ceremonies as well as over the whole transition period. We will closely co-operate with the VIP Protection Unit to ensure the best protection for Internationally Protected Persons (IPPs) and will be ready for any emergency situation."

Based at the Police Tactical Unit Headquarters in Fanling, the SDU was set up in 1974 as a Government response to the ever-increasing threat of international terrorism.

The first "Flying Tigers" used existing Force weaponry and devised their own tactics. An appraisal of the Unit by the British Special Air Service in 1978 led to considerable changes in equipment and tactics.

Since then, the SDU has developed its own comprehensive training programmes and facilities and holds regular training exercises in Hong Kong with similar, overseas units. Officers are also sent on two-week overseas exchanges.

Twenty years ago, the SDU was a small force of volunteers. Today, it consists of over 120 officers. Few police forces in the world can field a counter-terrorist unit as highly trained, prepared and equipped.


"I send my very best wishes to all in the Royal Hong Kong Police Force on this eve of Hong Kong ceasing to be a British Colony. It has been a great privilege to have been your Honorary Commandant General, and I look back with pride on your singular achievements over the years. You have a proud history and I know that you will continue to serve Hong Kong in the best tradition of the Service.

Best wishes to Force from Her Royal Highness,
Princess Alexandra

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/offbeat/610/ehead.html

Manila-X
April 25th, 2007, 06:58 AM
More of The SDU

plain clothed SDU in action

http://www.sdupro.com/image/upload/20020908-001.jpg

http://www.sdupro.com/image/upload/20020908-002.jpg

http://www.sdupro.com/image/upload/20020908-005.jpg

http://www.sdupro.com/image/upload/20020908-008.jpg

http://www.sdupro.com/image/upload/20020908-013.jpg

LordCarnal
April 27th, 2007, 08:18 PM
The police in HK are indeed courteous. I was once walking at Queens Road and a police officer asked if I had a Hong Kong Residents ID. I showed her my passport of course and told her that I was a tourist. All throughout the conversation the police officer was very courteous and she even bid me good luck and safe travel.. :okay:

Manila-X
April 28th, 2007, 06:06 PM
The police in HK are indeed courteous. I was once walking at Queens Road and a police officer asked if I had a Hong Kong Residents ID. I showed her my passport of course and told her that I was a tourist. All throughout the conversation the police officer was very courteous and she even bid me good luck and safe travel.. :okay:

Pinoy ka diba? Yes its common for the police to do random ID searches since the territory has alot of illegal immigrants. Those who are usually target of these searches are Mainland Chinese and other minority groups in HK. Gweilos are never been a target of these searches so what we have here is a bit of racial discrimination.

I've been searched many times but things is all good. The last one was when I was playing at a game centre in Sham Shui Po. They thought I was a triad member.

Manila-X
June 13th, 2007, 08:01 AM
SDU in action (circa 1992)

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cmoonflyer
August 30th, 2007, 04:07 AM
Great team - worth saluting !

_00_deathscar
August 30th, 2007, 07:50 AM
I've been searched many times but things is all good. The last one was when I was playing at a game centre in Sham Shui Po. They thought I was a triad member.

And are you? ;)

Manila-X
October 1st, 2007, 06:43 AM
And are you? ;)

Oh yeah I'm "DAI-LO" :D

kix111
October 1st, 2007, 10:39 AM
hongkong's polices are trained from the mafias :p

Manila-X
October 1st, 2007, 11:03 AM
hongkong's polices are trained from the mafias :p

NO WAY MAN!!! But The HK Police Force had British style training when it used to be of course, a British colony.

kix111
October 4th, 2007, 11:26 AM
^^^haha just joking

williamcecil
January 6th, 2008, 11:03 AM
My experiences with HK police were nothing but pleasant. I visit HK a lot and whenever I asked for directions, they're more than willing to assist (One time an officer even walked with me to the particular building I was looking for). I felt so comfortable that I no longer bring along my passport whenever I walk the streets of HK.

Ever seen the Patrolling cops in TST with their canine companions? They look really impressive. They're probably scaring the heck out of those Indians on the street accosting tourists with: "Rolex? Rolex?":lol:

Rachmaninov
January 11th, 2008, 03:44 AM
Oh yeah I'm "DAI-LO" :D

Hmm... according to HK law you can be arrested for claiming yourself a member of a triad.

amirtaheri
January 13th, 2008, 01:09 PM
In the UK, you can now be theoretically arrested for littering or claiming to be anything that can cause alarm to another member of the public :)

hkskyline
January 13th, 2008, 04:11 PM
In the UK, you can now be theoretically arrested for littering or claiming to be anything that can cause alarm to another member of the public :)

Actually, Hong Kong police recently took action and made arrests regarding a T-shirt whose design resembled triad symbols.

Manila-X
January 15th, 2008, 05:38 AM
Hmm... according to HK law you can be arrested for claiming yourself a member of a triad.

I was just kidding ;)

Anyway, HK's law is strict and you can get arrested for being a triad member even if you haven't commited any crime. Unlike in the US where there is so many organized crime and gangstas and they don't arrest anyone by just being a member of the mafia or even a blood or crip.

Anyway, one thing I noticed with HK's police force is some officers are adapting the baseball cap

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/532120/2/istockphoto_532120_police_officer_in_hong_kong.jpg

unlike the ordinary police hats :D

http://lh3.google.com/_zS1mMwQRCvE/RwnOHDk-Y0I/AAAAAAAABI8/k9JQ-9oHgdA/s800/Police+Officer+..Check+Out+The+One+On+The+Right.jpg

hkskyline
January 15th, 2008, 06:27 AM
I was just kidding ;)

Anyway, HK's law is strict and you can get arrested for being a triad member even if you haven't commited any crime. Unlike in the US where there is so many organized crime and gangstas and they don't arrest anyone by just being a member of the mafia or even a blood or crip.


Correction : you can be arrested for claiming to be a triad member.

Manila-X
January 16th, 2008, 05:36 AM
Correction : you can be arrested for claiming to be a triad member.

That's the thing. Is it same in the US if you claim to be a blood or a crip you know what I mean.

But again, triad members work in secrecy unlike gangs in the US where they show their colours.

Manila-X
January 18th, 2008, 07:40 AM
Actually, Hong Kong police recently took action and made arrests regarding a T-shirt whose design resembled triad symbols.

Charges against G.O.D. dropped
Vivienne Chow and Ng Kang-chung
Jan 18, 2008

The upmarket lifestyle chain store G.O.D. has vowed not to censor its creative designs after police decided to drop charges against it for selling *T-shirts and postcards with the Chinese characters for "14K" - also the name of a major triad society.

Speaking at the Central police station yesterday, G.O.D. owner Douglas Young, also a designer, said police had decided not to press charges after accepting that the "14K" design had nothing to do with triads.

Mr Young said he did not feel the design had gone too far. "As an artist, one has the responsibility to push the limits of society. There are many taboos and if we artists do not do anything to stimulate discussion, our society will not progress. My style is to challenge the limit, and for this, I and my company will not change."

Police made no comment.

In November, Mr Young, along with 17 staff members, were arrested on suspicion of violating the Societies Ordinance for selling products bearing "14K". Police seized 88 T-shirts and more than 500 postcards at G.O.D. branches in Causeway Bay, Central and Tsim Sha Tsui, as well as the company's offices and warehouse in Yuen Long.

The arts and culture community welcomed the police decision. The director of the theatre group Zuni Icosahedron, Mathias Woo Yan-wai, said resources should be devoted to "catching real criminals". He urged the government to clarify legal grey areas to give artists clearer guidelines. "People will keep crossing the line if they do not know what is allowed and what is not," Woo said. "We asked the government about this. What we got were very vague answers asking us to refer to two books in English - but we perform in Chinese."

Human Rights Monitor director Law Yuk-kai said he appreciated the police's concern but believed they had overreacted. "Police should have taken into account the context of the entire issue. There is little reason to believe that G.O.D. or Mr Young and his staff are involved with the triads."

Mr Law said police should have issued a verbal warning rather than making high-profile raids.

Artist Chow Chun-fai said he believed more artists would try to be provocative after the incident. "It is good to be a bit rebellious ... this can help improve the diversity of our creative works."

Fashion designer William Tang said: "Designers should have a touch of humour. The police overreacted."

Lawyer Simon Ip Shing-hing, however, warned that designers using "14K" imagery might not be so lucky in the future. "The authorities might have believed that [Mr Young's] intention was just to create a gimmick. But the case could be treated differently next time. It's a matter of intention."

Manila-X
September 26th, 2008, 09:16 AM
A Blast from The Past!!!

Recruitment ad for The Royal Hong Kong Police circa 1960s
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Manila-X
September 26th, 2008, 09:37 AM
Recommended movie based on The Hong Kong Police

Internal Affairs
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Breaking News
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tommy949
February 27th, 2010, 08:00 PM
BUMP,mainland and HK police seem nice at first but once you commit a crime,they will chop you up.

nerdly_dood
February 28th, 2010, 06:45 AM
BUMP,mainland and HK police seem nice at first but once you commit a crime,they will chop you up.

same with American police, although it's not exactly being chopped up, but they'll shove you in the back of a cop car in the blink of an eye. (but not without screaming at you... GET ON THE GROUND. DROP YOUR WEAPON. ON THE GROUND.)

tommy949
February 28th, 2010, 09:48 PM
same with American police, although it's not exactly being chopped up, but they'll shove you in the back of a cop car in the blink of an eye. (but not without screaming at you... GET ON THE GROUND. DROP YOUR WEAPON. ON THE GROUND.)
No,here's how the US cops do it,they need like 10 cop cars to chase down a vehicle wasting as much resources as possible why not 5 with 2 people each car.

nerdly_dood
March 1st, 2010, 09:29 PM
No,here's how the US cops do it,they need like 10 cop cars to chase down a vehicle wasting as much resources as possible why not 5 with 2 people each car.

most of the time it's 2 people per car, and the vast majority of times it's just two or three cars.

Manila-X
March 2nd, 2010, 04:07 AM
BUMP,mainland and HK police seem nice at first but once you commit a crime,they will chop you up.

HK police are tame compared to American ones except The SDU. But they are efficient, HK has one of the lowest crime rates in Asia.

Vehicle chases are rare in HK in fact they are non existent. If you notice HK streets, they are patrolled by Mercedes Sprinter vans instead of patrol cars.

Manila-X
March 2nd, 2010, 04:10 AM
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UD2
March 3rd, 2010, 07:06 PM
HK police are tame compared to American ones except The SDU. But they are efficient, HK has one of the lowest crime rates in Asia.

Vehicle chases are rare in HK in fact they are non existent. If you notice HK streets, they are patrolled by Mercedes Sprinter vans instead of patrol cars.

HK has one of the lowest crime rates in Asia? Are you kidding me?

Manila-X
March 5th, 2010, 07:45 AM
HK has one of the lowest crime rates in Asia? Are you kidding me?'

Ask almost everyone. HK is a safe place. Don't let those martial arts films fool you.

Gaeus
March 5th, 2010, 09:25 AM
That's the thing. Is it same in the US if you claim to be a blood or a crip you know what I mean.

But again, triad members work in secrecy unlike gangs in the US where they show their colours.


I concur this. US Gangs used to show their colors but not anymore. That's because its easier to operate that way. Plus, competition is stiff now. Before, the Italians dominate the industry. But now, the Russian mafia is is ruling the black market. The Mexicans, Columbians and Cubans are still powerful. The Chinese is growing fast and the Japanese are nowhere to be found. And there's others that are too big but not well known like Hell's Angels and a few organized black gangs.

These gangs operations are so good that FBI don't know how to topple the head of the snake especially the Russian mafia who are mostly former KGBs

zergcerebrates
March 21st, 2010, 02:49 PM
HK has one of the lowest crime rates in Asia? Are you kidding me?

Its among the lowest in the developed world.

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Manila-X
March 24th, 2010, 07:32 AM
I concur this. US Gangs used to show their colors but not anymore. That's because its easier to operate that way. Plus, competition is stiff now. Before, the Italians dominate the industry. But now, the Russian mafia is is ruling the black market. The Mexicans, Columbians and Cubans are still powerful. The Chinese is growing fast and the Japanese are nowhere to be found. And there's others that are too big but not well known like Hell's Angels and a few organized black gangs.

These gangs operations are so good that FBI don't know how to topple the head of the snake especially the Russian mafia who are mostly former KGBs

That's because The Yakuza is more focusing on legit business particularly in their motherland, Japan.

Anyway, I'm more talking about street gangs than organized crime group when it comes to colours.

US organized crime is different because you have organization of different ethnic groups, etc.

Unlike in HK where most organized crime is Chinese.

As for the Yakuza, they are busy fighting the cops :eek:
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Manila-X
March 24th, 2010, 07:39 AM
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