http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Summer_Olympics
http://www.pinfever.com/websites.html
I really hope we will win the bidding as Malaysia will becoming a full(?) developed nation in 2020! :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Summer_Olympics
http://www.pinfever.com/websites.html
I really hope we will win the bidding as Malaysia will becoming a full(?) developed nation in 2020! :)


Dun think we r qualify cos hardware (infrastructure) n software (nation's attitude) still not equal yet..It is easy to say boleh boleh without actual efforts to put in...

I hope M'sia can hold such a prestige Game.... but personally i am doubtful.... and pls... no more orang utan mascot....

2020 is a long way to run
who know during that time Malaysia already become one of the strongest country in sport :D

Well, if we do get to host Olympic 2020, one of the first thing that should be done would be to set up a proper accounting system. I don't think the accounts for the 1998 Commonwealth Games was ever finalised and audited. I might be wrong here, but I didn't hear anything after the hoo-haa on this.

I find http://www.gamesbids.com/english/index.shtml a very reliable source. Potential 2020 Bid Cities are Busan, Cape Town or Prague. There were some discussions on this forum in the past, whether KL would be good choice for the Olympic Games or not.
Personally I think already now, KL would have almost everything it would take, but so far Olympic games have never been held in the tropics.
Imagine running a Marathon in 33c heat and 90% humidity.

I would think that by 2020, KL is capable of handling a huge event like the Olympic. If you guys remember, if it wasn't for some under table deals by other competitors, KL would have won the bid for Asian Games 2006 in terms of almost all categories. According to the council, in order for KL to be capable of hosting the Olympic, the Commonwealth Games is not enough. KL needs to host the Asian Games before it proves itself capable of staging Olympic. But now it seems like KL is skipping that and go directly for Olympic.

For KL to host Olympic 2020, is defintely the greatest leap that Malaysians have ever achieved. I wish KL wins! And I'll take leave off work to celebrate it! :D

And yeah, I hope the mascots are not the animals and plants! It could be some funky creative futuristic yet traditional elements that portrays truly uniquely Malaysian spirit.

^^ 3D Orang Utan or Wayang Kulit :lol: jk.. finger cross!

^^ Nolar... at least something... like erm... something CYBER... we can name the mascot KLYBER. hmm..... :D

Quite hard ... since Malaysia is not a strong sport country...

infrastructure wise..yes..we can host the Olympic..
but IMO..i dun think we have athletes thats is up to world standard..;)
unless squash,bowling and taekwando considered as events in the olympic..
but hey..anything can happen..

^^ Nolar... at least something... like erm... something CYBER... we can name the mascot KLYBER. hmm..... :D


Oh no!!! Remember CYBERLANG? Its supposedly to be the mascot if KL wins the 2006 Asiad :eek:

infrastructure wise..yes..we can host the Olympic..
but IMO..i dun think we have athletes thats is up to world standard..;)
unless squash,bowling and taekwando considered as events in the olympic..
but hey..anything can happen..


Hmmm......I think all 3 are lah. But TaeKwonDo confirmed as it is introduced during the Seoul Olympics in 1988 ;)

Quite hard ... since Malaysia is not a strong sport country...


I am not too sure why a lot of people place a lot of emphasis on being a very strong sports country as it is not a criteria in the bid for an Olympic ;)

Dun think we r qualify cos hardware (infrastructure) n software (nation's attitude) still not equal yet..It is easy to say boleh boleh without actual efforts to put in...


Software is certainly not there but when we put our heads to it we could like what we did for SUKOM. Hardware-wise, out National Sports Complex is better than many Olympics venues. ;) It just need a lil spicing up work :)

Well, if we do get to host Olympic 2020, one of the first thing that should be done would be to set up a proper accounting system. I don't think the accounts for the 1998 Commonwealth Games was ever finalised and audited. I might be wrong here, but I didn't hear anything after the hoo-haa on this.

I think so too leh......everything seems to vanish in thin air......but they did report how much they gained before winding up Sukom98 Bhd ;)

Quite hard ... since Malaysia is not a strong sport country...
hmmmm... speculation aside, neither is Qatar (for hosting the next Asian Games..)

Hmmm......I think all 3 are lah. But TaeKwonDo confirmed as it is introduced during the Seoul Olympics in 1988 ;)

sorry..my mistake..back then in Seoul Olympic Games 1988..Taekwando is only a demonstration event..only confirmed as an official event in Sydney Games 2000..
heard rumours that since London won the 2012 Olympic bid last July..squash will be an official event for Olympic by 2012...but still not confirm la..

by the way..Sea Games Manila events start today..though opening ceremony wont be till this 27/11/2005
let us cheer for Malaysian athletes!! yeah..:cheer:

by the way..Sea Games Manila events start today..though opening ceremony wont be till this 27/11/2005
let us cheer for Malaysian athletes!! yeah..:cheer:

Eh..starting already? No news pun...not that hun ha like last time...feel like SEA Games losing its shine and glamour already liao :(

Eh..starting already? No news pun...not that hun ha like last time...feel like SEA Games losing its shine and glamour already liao :(

yes..the event started already..our soccer team thrashed Cambodia 6-0..
but then..its Cambodia..
cant wait for swimming and athletic ;)

Got the feeling that it will pass unnoticed :(

KL is a nice city, but an Olympics in the tropics would be too exhausting for the athletes, unless it will be held in an air conditioned dome, with an indoor marathon- which I doubt will be allowed.

Dont really think so, malaysia is still poor. Unless she becomes very rich by the year 2020, but i think the probability is very low. But let see how first!

I would think that by 2020, KL is capable of handling a huge event like the Olympic. If you guys remember, if it wasn't for some under table deals by other competitors, KL would have won the bid for Asian Games 2006 in terms of almost all categories. According to the council, in order for KL to be capable of hosting the Olympic, the Commonwealth Games is not enough. KL needs to host the Asian Games before it proves itself capable of staging Olympic. But now it seems like KL is skipping that and go directly for Olympic.

For KL to host Olympic 2020, is defintely the greatest leap that Malaysians have ever achieved. I wish KL wins! And I'll take leave off work to celebrate it! :D
In terms of numbers of athletes and size, I think Commonwealth Games is the largest after Olympic Games - bigger than Asian Games. To win the Olympics, you need to have bidding experience, which is what KL has been doing each time the Olympics comes around. 2020 is long enough after 2008 for another Games to be held in Asia. I doubt that M'sia can achieve developed country status by that date on current growth figures, but whether or not that's relevant is another issue. I personally think that there are more important things to spend $$$ on, and M'sia's time will come eventually - but to successfully hold an Olympics - think about new infrastructure (yes, even more than Sukom 96), massive security costs, new transport initiatives, environmental concerns, etc etc etc. Basically - it's many mega projects put together, and completely a waste of $$$ at this stage, anyway. But who knows, 2020 is a long time from now.

Hmmm...waiting the date to be coming.....

Hmmm..i will be 43 years old by then...

Hmmm..i will be 43 years old by then...


NOw already you macam pakcik.......43 years old? hmmmmmmm :sly: :lol:

43..still younger than Aznil today!

In terms of numbers of athletes and size, I think Commonwealth Games is the largest after Olympic Games - bigger than Asian Games. To win the Olympics, you need to have bidding experience, which is what KL has been doing each time the Olympics comes around. 2020 is long enough after 2008 for another Games to be held in Asia.


Nope...the Asiad is larger ;) Commonwealth Games are only larger if the participating nations are counted which some are not even totally a sovereign nation on its own. (like the many dependencies and territories of UK that are participants) ;) And many of the participating countries are so small that some only send like 3 athletes or so :D

Anyway here's the statistics ;) :



BUSAN 2002


- Participating Nations = 44

- Participants = 9782

- Sports/Events = 38

Archery, Athletics, Badminton, Baseball, Basketball, Billiard & Snooker, Bowling, Boxing, Canoeing, Cycling, Equestrian, Fencing, Soccer, Golf, Gymnastics, Handball, Hockey, Judo, Kabaddi, Karatedo, Rowing, Rugby, Sepaktakraw, Shooting, Softball, soft Tennis, Squash, Swimming, Table Tennis, Taekwondo, Tennis, Volleyball, Weightlifting, Wrestling, Wushu, Modern Pentathlon, Sailing and Body Building





MANCHESTER 2002

- Participating Nations = 72

- Participants = approx 6000 (Athletes/Team Officials)

- Sports/Events = 17

Aquatics, Athletics, Badminton, Boxing, Cycling, Gymnastics, Hockey, Judo, Lawn Bowls, Netball, Rugby 7s, Shooting, Squash, Table Tennis, Triathlon, Weightlifting and Wrestling.

I personally think that there are more important things to spend $$$ on, and M'sia's time will come eventually - but to successfully hold an Olympics - think about new infrastructure (yes, even more than Sukom 96), massive security costs, new transport initiatives, environmental concerns, etc etc etc. Basically - it's many mega projects put together, and completely a waste of $$$ at this stage, anyway.

Fully Agree!! We don't want any underutilized white elephants sitting around either!!

So what happens to Bukit Jalil sport complex now?

So what happens to Bukit Jalil sport complex now?


Our National Sport Complex are very well-used as contrary to many whom think it is a white elephant ;)


Just last weekend, the Putra Indoor Stadium is host to Jacky Cheung's well-acclaimed Snow Wolf Lake Musical. Jacky himself have had 2 (or izzit 3?) concerts held at the National Stadium. I am not too sure how well-utilised our National Squash Centre is but our National Hockey stadium are very well-used too. The National Aquatic Centre and the Bukit Komanwel Park are opened for the public everyday.

The transit stations for Starline - Bukit Jalil and Sri Petaling stations are often packed because it served the entire Sri Petaling, OUG and Bukit Jalil neighbourhood.

The area where our national stadiums are located are previously a landfill. ;)

I seriously do not think that anything that are spent on Sukom 98 are under-utilised except maybe MINT Hotel which is now closed :D

I seriously do not think that anything that are spent on Sukom 98 are under-utilised except maybe MINT Hotel which is now closed :D

Eh...MINT Hotel closed already? since when? What happen to it now?

Eh...MINT Hotel closed already? since when? What happen to it now?


I think since a year ago.......It is now empty :(

I think since a year ago.......It is now empty :(

Oh....what a waste of space :(

Mint hotel is so ugly lah...interior wise is fine.

Mint hotel is so ugly lah...interior wise is fine.


Have you been inside? :? I have not so I dunno....yeah....outside is butt ugly :D

Can you go on MSN now? hehehe :D

I been inside as well, as my friend previously work as human resource manager there ;)

Stayed there a night..I can't believe there build a hotel there..location..aiyoh rm22 for taxi from midvalley :cry:

Stayed there a night..I can't believe there build a hotel there..location..aiyoh rm22 for taxi from midvalley :cry:


You stayed there for what? :? It is very badly located IMO. :ohno:

And RM22 from Midvalley? I think you got ripped off lah by the taxi driver :D

You stayed there for what? :? It is very badly located IMO. :ohno:

And RM22 from Midvalley? I think you got ripped off lah by the taxi driver :D

Ha.ha...memang confirm kena ripped off :lol:

does MINT have anything to do with Malaysian Institute for Nuclear Technology?? :D

does MINT have anything to do with Malaysian Institute for Nuclear Technology?? :D

yaya. But i think is refer to the hotel that Baq had been stayed there before. haha :hahaha:

yaya. But i think is refer to the hotel that Baq had been stayed there before. haha :hahaha:


Haha...dun laugh at him lah :D

Cause many years back, one of my friend told me that the hotel is indeed a commercial venture by the Malaysian Institute of Nuclear Technology. However I have yet to verify that statement of his ;)

Eh..all taxis from midvalley that pergi to outside KL will kena ripoff lah! :D

Malaysia cannot host an Olympic game. It doesnt recognize Israel as a nation and Isrealis are not permitted to enter the country. Making that exception during the Olympics will be a very sensitive issue

hmm...you have a point there.

I thought Games are beyond politics.

I thought Games are beyond politics.

The Olympic Games have always been political. It was policitized in a way to enable a certain message to be conveyed to the world becuase those individuals have no other means of doing it. In Munich 1976, Palestinians terrorists kidnapped about 10 - 15 Isreli atheltes and killed them for the purpose of showing their plight to the world because they are unhappy about the way European powers partitioned the land that was originally inhabited by them. Isreal was basically a creation of that partition. I dont think Isrealis will feel comfortable participating in an Olympic Games in KL coz Malaysia is a Muslim majority country and Isreal has a longstanding problem with the Muslim community. Furthermore, No OIC members recognize Israel and that includes their neighbours. In Moscow 1980, US did not participate because of they wanted to boycott the USSR and the Russians retaliated by not sending any athletes to Los Angeles 1984. U.S blacks used the opening ceremony of the 1972 games i think to show the world how racist U.S was against the blacks.

The Olympic Games have always been political. It was policitized in a way to enable a certain message to be conveyed to the world becuase those individuals have no other means of doing it. In Munich 1976, Palestinians terrorists kidnapped about 10 - 15 Isreli atheltes and killed them for the purpose of showing their plight to the world because they are unhappy about the way European powers partitioned the land that was originally inhabited by them. Isreal was basically a creation of that partition. I dont think Isrealis will feel comfortable participating in an Olympic Games in KL coz Malaysia is a Muslim majority country and Isreal has a longstanding problem with the Muslim community. Furthermore, No OIC members recognize Israel and that includes their neighbours. In Moscow 1980, US did not participate because of they wanted to boycott the USSR and the Russians retaliated by not sending any athletes to Los Angeles 1984. U.S blacks used the opening ceremony of the 1972 games i think to show the world how racist U.S was against the blacks.

Yea, the Olympic Games is basically a politically domineering event. If i'm not wrong Israel have ties with 3 Islamic countries, full diplomatic relations i mean, with Egypt, Mauritania and Jordan.

Yea, the Olympic Games is basically a politically domineering event. If i'm not wrong Israel have ties with 3 Islamic countries, full diplomatic relations i mean, with Egypt, Mauritania and Jordan.

you might be right. I think Egypt started full diplomatic relations with Isreal after Isreal returned them the Sinai Region that was annexed by Isreal in the six day war. But i think you know more than i do on that issue. However, everything about the Olympics have always been political. If Australia IOC members did not bribe a few African IOC members, Beijing would have hosted the 2000 Olympics not Sydney.

The Olympic Games have always been political. It was policitized in a way to enable a certain message to be conveyed to the world becuase those individuals have no other means of doing it. In Munich 1976, Palestinians terrorists kidnapped about 10 - 15 Isreli atheltes and killed them for the purpose of showing their plight to the world because they are unhappy about the way European powers partitioned the land that was originally inhabited by them. Isreal was basically a creation of that partition. I dont think Isrealis will feel comfortable participating in an Olympic Games in KL coz Malaysia is a Muslim majority country and Isreal has a longstanding problem with the Muslim community. Furthermore, No OIC members recognize Israel and that includes their neighbours. In Moscow 1980, US did not participate because of they wanted to boycott the USSR and the Russians retaliated by not sending any athletes to Los Angeles 1984. U.S blacks used the opening ceremony of the 1972 games i think to show the world how racist U.S was against the blacks.


The Olympics are political because its participating members made it so. The games itself and the organisers are not. Although there are elements on corruption on the IOC part, but it had been largely weeded out since that Sydney fiasco.

Rather than just concentrating on the political problems that had plague the Olympics throughout the decades, we should cherish those which made milestones in International cooperation and understanding. One example is like how the contigents of both North and South Korea came together as ONE Korea. ;)

Just to add a little to your above statement, the 1980 Moscow Olympics are boycotted because of the invasion of Afghanistan by the Russians. So most NATO allies as well as Muslim countries like Malaysia boycotted the games. So like you've said, the Warsaw Pact countries which are aligned to Mother Russia boycotted the LA Olympics :(

But the Olympics is neutral and wherever it is held, the host country are confined to the nautrality of the games. So yes......even if the games are held in any hardcore Muslim country, Israelis would be able to compete. ;) The games are not as politicised as you think and it wouldn't be unless participating countries and terrorist made it so ......

OBJECTIVES OF THE OLYMPIC COUNCIL OF MALAYSIA (http://www.olympic.org.my/web/aboutocm/objectives/objectives.htm)
8. OCM's PLANS

8.1 Complete Phase II of the OCM Building Project [Done]

8.2 Establish a Sports Resource Centre for reference, education and research [Done]

8.3 Establish a Hall of Fame in recognition of athletes, coaches and sports leaders who have contributed to the development of sport in Malaysia [Done]

8.4 In line with Malaysia's Vision 2020, the OCM will demonstrate the achievement of a developed nation's status by bidding and, if successful, hosting the Olympics 2020

8.5 As part of the target towards Olympics 2020, OCM will lead and initiate programmes aimed at excellence in all areas of sports (athlete preparation, sports technology, hosting of international events and multi-sports events, construction of suitable infrastructure, etc).

Impianku.org (http://www.impianku.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=51&Itemid=2) > Malaysian Olympics 2020

I hope M'sia can hold such a prestige Game.... but personally i am doubtful.... and pls... no more orang utan mascot....

It will be yellow tiger muscot kot!..
but Malaysia familiar with twins kan..like upin & ipin Lol! :lol:

In terms of Infra i think we OK... but what about our sports performance..counted or not???

It is almost like an unwritten rule by the IOC that the Olympic Games should be rotated between different continents - meaning that 2 consecutive games will never be hosted within the same continents. Barcelona 92 was a European Olympic and it was only for the 2004 edition that the games return to Europe.

Beijing is hosting it next year, followed by London in year 2012. 2016 will probably be an American games and if that was the case, Asian city such as KL may stood a chance. However, if African city such as Cape Town or rich mideast city such as Dubai made a strong bid, the "novelty" factor will definitely influence the decision.

One more thing... Olympic games IS political. Most (but not all) previous host got the hosting right by playing the political card. Some notable example;

The 1936 Games in Berlin was supposed to be a showcase of Nazi / Aryan supremacy.

1948 Games in London was meant to show the world the resiliency of the British citizen following ww2, and the return of British Empire to the world's helm following the fall of Nazis.

1976 Games was meant to highlight the dynamism of the pro-independence movement of Quebec, and the ability of the French-speaking Canadian to make an impact on world stage. Prior to the Olympic, those Quebecois also hosted the World Expo in 1972.

1980 Games in Moscow was all about the glory of communism.

1984 Games in LA was a celebration of capitalism and free spirit

1988 Games in Seoul was about announcing to the world that South Korea has "arrived" in the world stage. They want people to know that they are as good as, if not better, than Japan. South Korea and Japan always have this love-hate relationship (just like us with those damn Singaporean) and hosting the Olympic was a big psychological boost for the Korean.

2008 Games is Beijing is also about making a statement, but this time around it was the Chinese that need the re-assurance that they are a new key player in world stage. People always say the Beijing 2008 is the coming-of-age party for Beijing.

2012 Games in London goes down to the age-old anomysity between the French and the English. London furiously fought the 2012 bid eventhough they were no where as ready as the French. Paris was the crowd favourite but at the end, London prevails because the UK is definitely more influential and politically strong at world stage.

For a tiny country like Malaysia, if we ever wanted to host the games, we also need to play up the political aspect if the bid, because these day anybody can build a nice stadium.

KL cannot dream to bid for Olympics.
Remember the bashing for the YOG2010.
In the Culture & Education Sector KL was 2.5 points out of a total of 10.
Last among the pack. Funny & still dream.
The hoopla of the maintenance costs of the already existing infrastructure and social descripanies, IOC will reject in the I Round itself the way it happened for the YOG 2010.

KL cannot dream to bid for Olympics.
Remember the bashing for the YOG2010.
In the Culture & Education Sector KL was 2.5 points out of a total of 10.
Last among the pack. Funny & still dream.
The hoopla of the maintenance costs of the already existing infrastructure and social descripanies, IOC will reject in the I Round itself the way it happened for the YOG 2010.

Hmm, didnt know that we even put up a bid for the youth olympics. found this news report... LondonLASanFrancisco are you in the know with the IOC, you seem to know the 'real' reasons for their decision. or maybe you are trolling

21 November 2007
2010 Youth Olympics: KL out in the first round

KUALA LUMPUR'S bid to host the 2010 Youth Olympic Games (YOG) went up in smoke when it failed to make the cut among the five cities short-listed by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) on Monday.

The fact that Singapore was rated second among the cities still in the running, and Bangkok named as the second South East Asian city, makes it even more painful for KL.

Moscow, which scored high with most of the 15 evaluators, finished top among the nine bidding cities, while Athens (Greece) and Turin (Italy) were the two cities which made the cut.

KL, which topped the list in accommodation, sports and venues, was out of the race at sixth position when scoring extremely low in education and culture.

The Education and Culture programme is seen as the one of the most essential components of the YOG.

The Education and Culture programme should represent a unique, once-in-a-lifetime learning experience for the young athletes and competitors gathered from all over the world to celebrate the spirit and values of the Olympics.

Host cities are required to organise educational talks by Olympic governing bodies, former gold medallists and sports experts where athletes and non-athletes are required to participate.

Hosts must also organise cultural shows - local and international - as well as exhibitions and workshops in order to bring athletes, officials and the local public together during the YOG.

Singapore is Moscow's closest challenger after it scored high with several evaluators except for its Olympic Village concept. Singapore had top scores for accommodation, infrastructure and overall project.

NST

where the hell this LondonLAwhatever came from? suddenly bashing our country...

we have to recognise israel first...

Instead of a country hosting Olympic, why not not several ASEAN countries co-host..if this is possible:nuts:..

we have to recognise israel first...

no way!

^^^ don't be an idiot. If you don't have any constructive comments just shut up. You're so bloody annoying by posting silly short comments, screw this and that, screaming madness all around this forum. I sometimes wonder if you're a small kid or have a mentality of a child. There are plenty of other forums out there for you to do this. That Asianfanatics and all that crap forums will do for you.

well, sorry for losing myself.

where the hell this LondonLAwhatever came from? suddenly bashing our country...

Enjoy the truth.
Anyway no qualms dreaming.

Venues for a Kuala Lumpur Summer Olympics:
Bukit Jalil National Stadium (main stadium) 87,411
Putra Stadium
Bukit Jalil Swimming Pool
National Hockey stadium
Stadium Merdeka (would need renovation and expansion)
Stadium Negara
Shah Alam Stadium

Out of the cage: We can pull off Olympics KL 2020
by Jack on Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:53 pm
Source: http://www.nst.com.my/Sunday/Columns/20061217111701

Not only has fate intertwined the year of the 32nd Olympiad and our self-set target for graduating into the top rung of global economies, there is a better than even chance that the Games can come back to Asia in 2020.

By then it would be 12 years since the Games would have been last hosted in Asia (Beijing in 2008).

London has taken the 2012 prize and Olympic geopolitics may want to see an African or North American host for the 2016 edition.

That leaves Asia, and Malaysia specifically, with a fair conceptual chance of making a successful bid.

Before we go any further, should we even think of bidding for the Olympic Games?

It all sounds very nice and grand, and it would be one hell of a statement for a brand new, "developed" Malaysia.

But is it worth all the effort, time and money just to get the rights to host something that would be over in a few weeks?

Bidding for the Olympics is not cheap. Just to compete for the honour of hosting the games can cost anywhere between US$15 and US$20 million (RM54-72 million).

To put that into context, under the average budget for schools in the Ninth Malaysia Plan, that’s four quality schools, just to be considered as a candidate city.

If the bid is successful, it’s more money and expenses borne by taxpayers. Stadiums, arenas and other sporting venues will have to be built or refurbished.

An Olympic village will have to be constructed, infrastructure upgraded and a stunning opening ceremony, running into millions of ringgit, will have to be carefully choreographed.

While there is hope of a huge payoff in the form of ticket sales, television rights, merchandise sales and sponsorship, not all Olympic business plans have succeeded.

Take the cautionary tale of Montreal 1976. The price tag for the Games escalated by almost five times, and Quebecois were still paying for their Olympics 26 years after the event.

Then there is the problem of white elephants haunting an Olympic city with under-utilised and, sometimes, dilapidated stadiums and infrastructure which didn’t have a post-games game plan.

As successful as Sydney 2000 was in terms of sporting achievement and displaying the right spirit, the SuperDome, which was a main venue for the games, plunged into receivership and is only now seeing light at the end of the tunnel after computer giant Acer bought over its naming rights.

In a nutshell, bidding for the Olympics is expensive and the competition out there is stiff.

Apart from cities that have already successfully hosted the games, there are many that are positioning themselves for a future bid.

Doha has made no secret of a future pitch to the International Olympic Committee (IOC), having hosted a well-organised Asian Games.

Busan in South Korea, Cape Town in South Africa and Prague in the Czech Republic have also sent out feelers for the 2020 games.

With no guarantee of success, stiff competition and also the investment required to host the games, should we seriously be thinking about a bid? I think so.

Apart from the football World Cup, there is no other global event that attracts the kind of attention.

The Olympics is widely promoted as a celebration of the human spirit through sport, but it is also a celebration of the achievements of the host country.

Among the technical considerations of the IOC for choosing a host venue are political support, public support and motivation for hosting the games and a concept for the games itself.

In other words, only a city and country with the right attitude, outlook and character deserves the games.

Malaysia in 2020 can put forward Kuala Lumpur, capital of a modern, progressive, developed Muslim country as the first in the Islamic world to host the Olympics.

KL 2020 would be a celebration not just of the human spirit in sport, but the celebration of the spirit of a people determined to bring together a multi-ethnic, multi-religious nation together against all odds.

KL 2020 carries with it all the risks of overinvestment and failure that have haunted some past hosts. But consider the benefits. If run properly, the spin-offs are staggering.

Before the 1992 games, Barcelona was ranked the 16th most popular destination in Europe. But after the Olympics, it steadily climbed that ranking and by 1999 had become the third most popular place.

A leading investment bank has estimated that tourism revenue in China will grow by 18 per cent a year from 2002 right up until the Games in 2008.

Imagine what KL 2020 can do to sustain tourism interest in Malaysia without having to hold regular VMYs.

The publicity generated in the international media will be enough to make sure we remain on the radar screen for the next decade or so.

That’s just the tourism spin-off.

As far as contribution to the economy as a whole, London estimates a whopping £8.4 billion (RM59 billion) contribution to national GDP from economic activity in the run up to, during and immediately after the Olympics.

The Games are estimated to contribute 0.3 per cent a year to China’s annual economic growth before 2008, taking into account the public works spending required to prepare Beijing.

The Olympics have also boosted investor confidence in China, which will see a jump in foreign direct investment from US$1.5 billion in 2000 to nearly US$5 billion in 2008.

At a micro-level, staging the games itself can be profitable. Of course, there have been financial nightmares like Montreal.

But the 1984 Los Angeles games, which was the first privately funded games, turned in a profit of US$223 million and Seoul 1988 recorded earnings of US$288 million.

This surplus can be channelled towards sports development and maintaining some of the venues for post-Olympics usage.

The games would also create thousands of jobs which, although temporary, will be able to train young people in project management, hospitality and logistics.

It can provide many Malaysians with the expertise to handle international events of stunning complexity with an infinite amount of permutation of things that can go wrong.

Numbers aside, it steals the global spotlight for Malaysia for a few weeks. In an age of instant communication, the democratisation of information and attention deficit disorders, the airtime that we can get from the games is priceless.

So, although there are risks aplenty, the tangible and intangible benefits of hosting the games are considerable. There are ways of making sure we don’t end up with too many white elephants.

For one, we don’t have to build new venues for every discipline. LA 1984 proved successful in the long run because it used existing facilities that were renovated for the Olympics.

Similarly, we have world-class sporting venues built for the 1998 Commonwealth Games that can be upgraded.

We should also have a post-Olympic plan for any new facilities we build. Whether it is to create a new, integrated sports city that would be an international centre for excellence or to continue to attract top-class events, we must see beyond the Olympics or otherwise the hangover can be as intense as the joys of hosting it.

If we are serious about making a bid, we also need to get one small detail out of the way. Although not officially a technical consideration, it will not reflect well on a candidate city if the country is not known to produce quality athletes and medal winners.

On balance, all things being equal, the IOC would much prefer to award the games to a country that has displayed a sustained improvement of their athletes at the highest level.

And this may very well be our stumbling block. If we do not show marked improvements for Beijing 2008 and London 2012, we may be passed over because of our lack of sporting prowess.

Kuala Lumpur can put together an excellent bid for 2020. We have the experience, we have the story and we have the ability to pull it off.

But if it is asked whether we are a sporting nation, in the way that Australia with a similar population is in its dominance of so many sports, we surely cannot lie.

But all is not lost. I believe, especially after the decent showing in Doha, that things can get better.

So we didn’t win many medals in "traditional" Olympic sports.

But the commitment and drive shown by our winners can be replicated and we can get the formula right.

Our 2020 Olympians will be just starting primary school now. We have a chance to start with a clean slate, identify these talents early and develop them systematically, communist-style for 2020.

If dreams come true, KL 2020 should not just be a success for us as hosts. It should also signal our arrival on the global sporting scene.

Malaysia Can Only Bid For Olympics After 2020 - Ismail Sabri
July 14, 2008 23:13 PM

KUALA LUMPUR, July 14 (Bernama) -- Malaysia can only bid to host Olympic Games after 2020 when the country becomes a developed nation, the Dewan Rakyat was told Monday.

Youth and Sports Minister Datuk Ismail Sabri Yaakob said this was because the hosts of Olympic Games before that had already been determined.

He said huge funds were needed to host an international sports meet like the Olympics.

Malaysia was more interested to stage Asian Games first to qualify as an Olympic Games host, he said when winding up debate on the Mid-Term Review of the Ninth Malaysia Plan.

He was replying to a question from Datuk Dr Mohd Fuad Zarkashi (BN-Batu Pahat) who proposed to the government to lobby for the next Olympic Games.

Khairy Jamaluddin (BN-Rembau) who interceded asked the government to focus on harnessing Olympic sports instead of non-Olympic sports like bowling.

Ismail Sabri said although sports like bowling, sepak takraw and squash were not included in the Olympics, they had brought glory to the country.

"The ministry will consider harnessing Olympic sports especially those which Malaysia has the potential," he said.

-- BERNAMA

Improve our sporting prowess first, then only consider bidding it...

Our best chance currently, is in badminton...to be a host nation, we should at least capable of excelling in a few more Olympic sports...i don't see any purpose to become host nation if we only excel in one sport...

Infrastructure, we can renovate Bukit Jalil for that...

Youth and Sports Minister Datuk Ismail Sabri Yaakob said this was because the hosts of Olympic Games before that had already been determined.

He said huge funds were needed to host an international sports meet like the Olympics.

Malaysia was more interested to stage Asian Games first to qualify as an Olympic Games host, he said when winding up debate on the Mid-Term Review of the Ninth Malaysia Plan.2016 has not been determined yet, so how would 2020 be already determined?

realistically, if 2012 is going to London, 2016 will probably go to New York since they staged a bid for 2012 and lost to London.

if 2016 goes to a North American city, then 2020 would likely go to an Asian city and most likely it would be in the middle east.

I could imagine Qatar and Bahrain working together to secure the summer games...with huge, air con indoor facilities, mist fans along the route of the marathon, monorails galore...they could put a lot of money into it.

Malaysia with the olympics? Not 2020, certainly. Asian Games would be a great alternative for that year (or thereabouts).

Cheers, m

Malaysia is too small to host the games alone. Invite singapore to joint hosting with us..

^^

I don't know if joint-bid was allowed in Olympics or not....but i think in FIFA World Cup, joint-bidding not encouraged after the 2002 Japan/Korea.....

Regarding to size, i think Greece is even smaller than us, in terms of size and population (they held the 2004 games)...

But we should get Asian Games first before talking about hosting Olympics...

Regarding to 2016 Olympics, now there are 4 candidate cities, Tokyo, Rio de Janeiro, Chicago and Madrid....i don't know whether the US president election may influence the selection process or not...

yeah somehow i feel Malaysia is way too far from hosting the Olympics as of now.
1. We don't seem to be a sporting nation. Our contingent to Beijing this year totalled 30+ members. Not too bad. In contrast, China the host country has 1,099 members. We need to concentrate on Olympics sports first.
2. Our economics could be too small for Olympics.
3. Modern Olympia was born in Greece. So historically Greece has alot of advantage, unlike any others, especially Asian countries.
4. No experience in hosting Big sporting events except Commonwealth Games. We should concentrate on Asian Games and other World Championship (for Olympic sports) first!
5. South east Asia as a region is premature when it comes to this. Perhaps in the next decade or so we might be more ready to be first SEA nation to host it.
6. With all the uncertainties going around, less chance lah!
7. Politics and favouritism in IOC is very hard to tackle. Many may never heard of Malaysia in the Olympics arena.
8. We might have to wait for giants like Australia (2000), China (2008) etc to host it first. Middle East could be an interesting Asian candidate before SEA comes into the picture.
9. The "developing nation" phobia. Maybe we shall wait for India (since 2nd most populous nation) to host it first.
10. The "muslim nation" phobia. No offence. If Istanbul gets to host one day, I don't see why we cant!

Having said that, I guess we have good connectivity to all continents. Plus point for Malaysia.

In my opinion, we stand a good chance to host the game if we can play up the "small-nation" card cleverly.

Instead of looking up at Beijing model, we should try to emulate London in hosting future games. Convince the IOC people that having a bloated games like the Beijing edition is not good for the future of Olympic movement. We should promote a leaner games, where the pageantry is kept at minimum and the number of participating athletes/officials are kept at manageable numbers. Instead of pitching our facilities (which surely will not be able to keep up with the craziness of the likes of Beijing and Dubai), we should sell our version of the "scale-down" Olympic concept and also all the symbolism that Malaysia represents - muslim but progressive, multicultural but peaceful, small nation with big dream...

This idea of using symbolism to win hosting rights has been used before by Atlanta. Back in 1996, for the centenary edition of the games, Greece was so sure that they will get the games because Athens is after all, the birthplace of Olympic. Using this logic, the Greek felt that the 1996 edition should naturally be awarded to them.Their assumption was dead wrong. The IOC were led to believe that the centenary games should instead be awarded to Atlanta because the U.S., being a young country (at least compared to the antiquated Greece) represent everything that is youthful, energetic and vibrant and therefore, is in tandem with the idea of modern olympic movement.

Anyway... this is just my two cents. Hosting an Olympic Games seems like a Herculean task, and unless we can trick the OIC people to justify for a smaller games, we will never be good enough to do the job.

This is an interesting topic. :)

I am in the agreement that Malaysia needs to be a strong medal contenders in the Olympics before we can become a host. South Korea and China were already a strong competing country with medals to show before they hosted their respective Olympics. Looking at the past few Olympics, for South East Asia, Thailand and Indonesia stand a good chance to host the event.


Performance by ASEAN Countries in the Summer Olympics since Moscow 1980

Athens 2004
Ranking Country Gold-Silver-Bronze (Total)
25 Thailand 3-1-4 (8)
48 Indonesia 1-1-2 (4)

Sydney 2000
Ranking Country Gold-Silver-Bronze (Total)
37 Indonesia 1-3-2 (6)
46 Thailand 1-0-2 (3)
64 Vietnam 0-1-0 (1)

Atlanta 1996
Ranking Country Gold-Silver-Bronze (Total)
41 Indonesia 1-1-2 (4)
47 Thailand 1-0-1 (2)
58 Malaysia 0-1-1 (2)
61 Philippines 0-1-0 (1)

Barcelona 1992
Ranking Country Gold-Silver-Bronze (Total)
24 Indonesia 2-2-1 (5)
54 Malaysia 0-0-1 (1)
54 Philippines 0-0-1 (1)
54 Thailand 0-0-1 (1)

Seoul 1988
Ranking Country Gold-Silver-Bronze (Total)
36 Indonesia 0-1-0 (1)
46 Philippines 0-0-1 (1)
46 Thailand 0-0-1 (1)

Los Angeles 1984
Ranking Country Gold-Silver-Bronze (Total)
33 Thailand 0-1-0 (1)

Both Thailand and Indonesia has hosted the Asian Games (Thailand has hosted the Asiad 4 times!) If a SEA country is to be choosen, I think Bangkok should come up top. Indonesia may have the prowess, but they flaw when it comes to infrastructures and financial capability.

Singapore may have a chance too if they continue importing good athletes to compete under their flag. They have showed their claws when winning the 2010 Youth Olympics. Singapore is set to have a world class sporting venues that can easily host Commonwealth or Asian Games in the future beyond 2010.

Looking at current scenarios, Malaysia seems to have slowed down in sports development progress/program since the 1998 Commonwealth and more apparent after losing the bid for 2006 Asiad. With the current hanky panky in politics, I doubt we will be even shortlisted (again) for 2020 Olympics, should we decide to contest.

A joint Olympic could be a shortcut for ASEAN countries to host the Olympics, but this region is not known to be supportive towards each other (the 2010 Youth Olympics can simply exhibits this where Singapore, Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur competed against each other to be the host, instead of all ASEAN countries show supports towards one city), plus the IOC's no preferential treatment towards a join Olympics.

Always remember, Doha won the 2006 Asiad because she got unconditional supports from all Arab countries at that time, although Qatar is a tiny weenie country and not a sporting powerhouse.

Always remember, Doha won the 2006 Asiad because she got unconditional supports from all Arab countries at that time, although Qatar is a tiny weenie country and not a sporting powerhouse.

Part of the reason Doha (Qatar) won the bid as the host of 2006 Asian Games is because of their $$$$$ just like Atlanta, Georgia back in 1996. :shifty:

It's evermore expensive to host the Olympic Games. BUT technically speaking, any country can BUY the Olympic Games if they have the cash to burn :scouserd: - not to mention other circumstances...

FYI, Our country either private or government sector have been trying their luck to host any games eversince Commonwealth Games 1998 but unfortunately… :cry:

2006 Asian games – KL, Malaysia was shortlisted (a favourite) but was doomed because of Doha's Wealth

2008 Olympic Games – KL, Malaysia bid for the game BUT was not shortlisted.

2010 Asian Games – KL, Malaysia once again bidding for it, one of the final 2 countries bidding as for the other 2 (Amman & Seoul) withdraw from the bidding, soon after Malaysia quit the bid after the country's Sports Minister boycotted for the high cost of hosting the games

2010 Youth Olympics – KL, Malaysia bid for the game BUT was not shortlisted.

It's plausible for Malaysia :soon: to Host the Olympics i.e. the 2020 games IF both private & government sector put themselves together to overcome heaps of issues & pull it off together. As for joint bidding??? *YAWN* :hahano:

The bottom-line is, everyone keep on saying "Don't mess Olympics with Politics" but its totally different story in reality. :speech:

The bottom-line is, everyone keep on saying "Don't mess Olympics with Politics" but its totally different story in reality. :speech:

Money makes the world go round... :drunk: :baaa: :|