Well the comp has been run & won! The winning design was chosen from the Foster architects! they didnt use our model due to alternate smaller scale model used. Ive seen the 3 designs and i think Fosters is best also.
JPW or breakaway DCM looked like a taller KENS tower. Its 3 segmented silver tower looked to massive.
The KPF/Peddlethorp ignored site envelope and payed concesquences. It looked shit.
The foster design is a flat top silvery looking box shape with large segmented bays runing full height.The top is till being designed with "architectural features" yet to be add!
The smaller towewr is now shorter at 100m high and similar shape.
Kuok from Greencliffs Dev wants better renders done before he makes it public!
Also he wants to start this year.!! woohoo!!

I want to say WOOOHOOO!!! But I don't know what exactly to WOOOHOOO!!! just yet! :) You say the second tower is now smaller at 100 metres but what about the main tower, is it still 150 metres or thereabouts? I'm excited about the silver though, it should turn out to look nice and schmick whatever the design!

I'm assuming you don't have a pic yet....otherwise you would have posted it! I can't wait to see it!

Well,ive got a B&W render and floor plate diagram. so ill post tonight!!
the tallest tower is still restricted to 150m but wil have plant and roof features which could go a further 10-15m.It has 41 levels above grd.It was 45 but foster likes floors big and open so there 3.5m per floor!!! It will have 408 units.
The smaller serviced apartments on Kent will be 110m high/35storeys.

Can't wait to see pics!

Great! Dying to see the pic!

The suspense is killing me!!!!!!

I am dying to see this one!!!!!

Silver????? This could turn out to be a very wicked creation

;)

I am very happy that it will include some roof "addition". I am hoping for a massive spire, we haven't had one of those lately. :D

ARGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH! It is very frustrating trying to picture things from a description! :nuts:

Thanks for letting us know Cul, but please post the plans and BW rendering ASAP! ;)

well here it is!. remember its only a small B&W. i couldnt get hold of a colour.
Its silvery- white in colour. I thinks its a great design. The top terminaton has yet to be finalised and podium also.But i think were in for an award winning block of units!!!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid53/p2133cdaf4a258361da1b1a1d68251877/fc8e2d4c.jpg

floor plate!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid53/pc96bbec069ea1d0149464cb8e5900c4d/fc8e2912.jpg

Looks huuuuuuuuge even though it's only 150 metres! I like the "heavy top" and hope it stays flat and large to frame the Town Hall cupola/spire (when sitting down at 'Jet' cafe in the QVB ;)). Waiting to see the podium so I won't give my verdict on what's been released to us yet, but like what I see so far. I like its boldness!

It looks good how it is... I am hoping that they don't change it much. Silvery-White? does that mean it has silver tinting? I sure hope so.

This would have to be the most appealing of any Sydney Building... what a mockery it makes of the avocado seidler building "The Meriton".

I'm pretty certain that Cull said Seilders "The Unimaginative"...... I mean ......."The Meriton" will be the same colour as Cove and not "Avocado" anymore.

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Looking good at the moment. I can't wait to see the final product.

Fantastic- PUHLEEEESE let it be more silver coloured than white- the less white towers in the southern CBD the better. :)

That is a great design and although I felt we needed more towers with spires, I really like the "Heavy Top" as TonyP put it, therefore I think it would be unnecessary to add a spire.

I am begging that the building is giving a slick silver tint, that is something that would look supurb and distinctive on the Sydney Skyline.

;)

Well, Foster loves his glass and shiny steel, so I'm pretty sure it will end up predominantly silver!

I love the floorplan! By looks of it, many of the apartments won't even have to share a wall with neighbours!

Looking good so far - can't wait to see more of it!

Looks very much like a Melbourne tower to me. I like it, but also feel it needs a spire to take the edge off that bulk termination.

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Actually, it kinda looks like a London tower to me - which I guess it is since its a Foster design! Its sorta like some of the buildings you see popping up in Canary Wharf.

ha, didn't see this discussion here .. this forum has too many overlapping categories!

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yes finn this is fantastic design, if there is one problem i have with australian apartments, it's sharing walls with neighbours with inadequate insulation .. just for everyone's peace of mind, not having to worry about the noise you make and not having to resent them having a home theatre or whatever .. let's hope more developments utilise clever layouts and quality insulation to minimise noise leakage

hkstar

I like the silvery colour of the tower. Looks impressive too.

Just found this article that appears in todays The Sydney Morning Herald (smh.com.au)

Towers chosen to put Regent site to rest
By Geraldine O'Brien, Architecture Writer
March 7 2003

A pair of see-through towers has won the international design competition to fill one of Sydney's oldest "black holes".

The $500million scheme, by renowned British architect Norman Foster, shows two glass towers set on a five-storey sandstone podium on the old Regent Theatre site.

The selection of Foster and Partners followed a limited design competition. When it is completed next year, it will be the company's second major Sydney building. It won over a panel of judges which included Paul Keating, architects Alexander Tzannes and Richard Francis-Jones, NSW Heritage Office chairman Michael Collins and representatives of Greencliff Developments.

Greencliff's chairman and managing director, Stanley Quek, said yesterday that the "very elegant design" would respect the historic stone and masonry buildings which surrounded it.

The judging panel was unanimous in choosing the Foster and Partners scheme.

The five-storey podium, in harmony with the low-rise buildings around it, would create "a lively urban quarter where people can live, work and enjoy life," Dr Quek said. It would house a retail arcade and offices.

The towers - a 48-storey residential tower facing Bathurst Street and a 33-storey tower of 180 serviced apartments on Kent Street - appeared to float above the podium, becoming "increasingly transparent as they rise into the sky", the judges said.

Construction is likely to begin at the end of the year, Dr Quek said. But work has begun on the first Foster and Partners project in Sydney, a 31-storey office building at 126 Phillip Street, which will be completed in September 2005.

Sir Norman is the designer for the rebuilding of Berlin's Reichstag, the Great Court at the British Museum and the international airport at Chek Lap Kok, Hong Kong.

The 1928 Regent Theatre was demolished amid controversy in 1989. Shops were built on the site just before the Olympics.

Thanks Fabian.

I don't quite understand in the 3rd paragraph where it reads "when it is completed next year", becuase later down the page it reads "Construction is likely to begin at the end of the year" :? Even if construction began tomorrow, they wouldn't be finished by next year anyway. Just typo or badly edited.

LOL @ "The towers, blah blah, appeared to float above the podium" Wheeeeee! ;)

Today's AFR has a more detailed black and white render of both towers up close. Can anyone scan it ?

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I don't quite understand in the 3rd paragraph where it reads "when it is completed next year", becuase later down the page it reads "Construction is likely to begin at the end of the year" :? Even if construction began tomorrow, they wouldn't be finished by next year anyway. Just typo or badly edited.

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I think they will have a chance to get to full height next year!
The excavation is already done! the floor plate is exactly the same the whole 150m height! so it will rise rapidly when things start up! my work is within spitting distance from this baby! guess who will be taken heaps of happy snaps! lol

who said Sydneys residential sector is in oversupply!

;)

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the approved section had the heading "no more posting in this section" .theres no overlapping catorgories!

I still think it is rather ambitious for them to have it up to full height by next yext, even given the excavations are done but construction may not begin till the end of the year. :nuts:

Where is Steve W.T.? He will love the prediction in the article of full height by virtually tomorrow ;) (please don't hurt me Steve!!)

...and of course we look forward to plenty of construction pics - esp. of an N. Foster development (regardless of what you think of the design) :okay:

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Where is Steve W.T.? He will love the prediction in the article of full height by virtually tomorrow ;) (please don't hurt me Steve!!)

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Excellent that should be the speed all buildings are built at. Then they can be built while economic conditions are favourable and there is no war or terrorist attack. You know it would only take one or two more tall buildings to be hit by terrorists and they would stop building more.

This building looks even better in colour. I like how they will be having sand stone at the base to fit in with the KFC building.

I'm really looking forward to this........although I often ponder how tall this sucker would have been if it weren't for the height restriction.
This could have been a "Norman Foster landmark tower", but instead its a "Norman Foster - bloody nice , but not big enough to be noticed in many views of the skyline - tower".

If they can pully a swifty then good on them, I am so happy to see another decade long crater finally being filled and the design for the site is a beauty. I am sooooooooooooooooooo happy! :) :) :)

The Herald article had a black and white version of that rendering. They should of done it in colour!

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LOL! Well, I just cry when I imagine how cool this tower would look like at 250m+...

anyway, It is an ABSOLUTELY bloody good design! MORE PLEASE!:cheers:

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i chatted to planner today and he said the top could have pinnacles remincent of opposite St Andrews cathedral. I straight away thought of PGG Place Tower in Pittsburgh!
(this is one of my fav skyscrapers) has the gothic feel but remains modern looking.

http://rewind.cx/images/photos/Skyscrapers_Pittsburgh.jpg



i think it would look excellent! but i reckon foster will have the spirelets as less significant.
heres a pic i altered with spirelets!!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid54/p6a00a3804394d938a56cf63a41f1566c/fc8a888b.jpg

Cul, your modifications look good. But we'd be accused of plagarism. The proposals never stop down there - another (damn near) 500fter for Sydney!

Culwalla

That would look soooo cool. I really hope they put them on the top.

I wish you hadn't said that because I will be really dissapointed if they don't do it now.

Culwalla

Can you e-mail that picture to them as a suggestion.

lol

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That would look soooo cool. I really hope they put them on the top.

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lol. yeah there gonna do some sort of additions but there probably going to be minor. Also to be added will be a platroom/LMR which will be located in the centre of roof , probably 3-6m high so the total height will be approx 150m+ LMR = 156m.
and if spires are substantial maybe 160m?
looking forward to new renders! it goes to council again this month so i ll see if theres anymore info to come!
cheers

I like

Finally, another hole to be filled with a quality tower. I love the glass walls it will have, and the more silver they are, the better it will appear as it seemingly blends into the sky as it rises. A nice contrast to St Andrews across the road as well.

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That would look soooo cool. I really hope they put them on the top.

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Yes Cul, those possible pinnacles are now teasing me. I will not sleep now until I see the end product. I too will be disappointed if we dont get something that good. Still I love this tower to death.

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Good to see a residential tower that is nice and sleek and mmmmmmminimalist:D

The coloured image shows much more glass than the b/w image, which leads me to think that most of those balconies are glazed / louvred winter-gardens Q1 / Aurora Place style??

@finn - I agree.... love the plan, simple yet elegant. It is great to see something different in the planning......like getting light into the lift lobbies and corridors!! It really feels like they have gone for quality rather than quantity!!

I am almost sick to death of Foster.....his work is a little too slick and repetitive sometimes, but this is a nice addition. It is great that Sydney is getting a good stock of international standard buildings - residential and commercial.

bit of a tease but i got some shots of model today so ill post them tonight! great model, its white but shows all detail, its so massive! i didnt realize how large the floor plate was. its 45m x 45m, which is quite a size area, which is about 2000sqm per floor ,without services etc probably 1800sqm? theres still no "architectural features" but its only stage 1 status.
cheers

Tease!! :(

The suspense is going to kill meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee .........

Looks like we are about to get one fat monster :D

I guess you will also find out the dimensions of Tower 2 at the same time?

well here some pix.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/03/184683.jpg

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/03/184680.jpg

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/03/184685.jpg

view from west.the shorter tower on kent st rises to 117m/29st.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/03/184686.jpg
an elevation

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/03/184687.jpg

WOW! that's all I can say! :drool: I must say I don't mind the actual look of the building as it stands right now, no real need to add any architectural features. The thing that gets me is that it's a massive building in terms of the size of the floorplates, like Cul said... I really will dominate that part of town. Boy, its been a while since ANYTHING significant has been there, what a boost for the area.

Now, lets hope they start this year, like they plan too... ;)

A couple, juuuuust a couple of architectural features wouldn't go astray - but they would have to be well thought out, not just stuck on here & there. I have faith in Foster & Partners.

I like how the lower tower is on a diagonal as opposed to being uniform with the biggin'. Lobana is looking taller than I keep remembering :) .

BTW I wouldn't wanna have a hangover in that boardroom re carpet 'n chairs ;)

Ta CULWULLA

Reminds me of 363 George Street, hopefully the roof feature will be more impressive than the ladder:

http://images2.fotki.com/v19/photos/2/22045/167517/0330andersons-or.jpg

I think it would look wicked with each of the 8 sections around the core reaching different heights like Telstra and HWT in Melbourne (maybe the highest could be a light box, like on World Tower.

It also looks rather similar to Verve 501 in Melbourne with glass up the top and more balconies in the lower section.

Gee, that is one FAT tower. Based on a 45m width the aspect ratio will be somewhere around 3.5 which says it all..FAT!!!

From an aesthetic point of view the tower looks rather bland and ordinary. In fact it looks like an older style Gold Coast apartment building. The only thing that could (hopefully) save it is the use of ultra-reflective glazing.

Right now for this design Im thinking:puke: :puke: :puke:

Impressive model and renderings. It looks very impressive and finely designed. I look forward to seeing the architectural fature.

Wow, for a residential tower that is super fat!

I quite like how it fills so much of the site. The smaller tower makes for a nice little "Mini Me".

The end product once complete will be a stunner. Lets hope they begin construction this year as anticipated ..... ;)

Looks stunning! The tower just screams high-quality design, inside and out! And there are very few buildings in Australia that I would say that about.

Its amazing, because when I normally think of a wide-girth tower, I tend to start thinking about how dark and unpleasant it must be near the tower core - especially in a building full of apartments!

But the width of this tower is because it has provided thoughtful separation between apatments, and has not been stingy in its allocation of movement spaces (i.e. common hallways, lift areas etc.).

And at the same time, its ultra-glassiness (and indeed its fatness!) looks like it will bestow upon the eventual residents a removal from the uncomfortable characteristics so often found in high-rise apartments, by providing space, natural light, and ventilation!

I am really liking it! :D

finn, thats at u get when u hire norman foster and co.!

The bldg has recently been "modified" with more set back from George st which i think is a good thing. also the tower has been reduced slightly in bulk. and the biggest news is the flat top has gone, it looks like it will have a 3 step tiered effect aka-Investec bldg on macquarie st.


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Not sure if it goes much higher though? maybe 160m? the pre DA will come in soon with new model !

Culwulla, you start to scare me when you use the dreaded "MODIFIED" word.

All I can say is they had better not fuck this one up! :rant:

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dont be scared! it will still look awesome! trust me!
;)

lol Don't think it will get any shorter, just leaner - perhaps with the 'L' sections lopped. It needs to 'Jenny Craig up" a bit anyway. Far too disproportionate for its surrounds.

You start to scare me when posting pics like that http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/sad/nervous.gif !!

That pic IS scary! I scrolled up from the bottom and for a split second thought it was a new design for 101 Bathust hehe.

You should post that pic to the skyscraper jail thread :-)

Get a grip, Fountainhead, getting sick to death of Foster! Take a look around at most of the alternatives and be very, very grateful Foster is so prolific. At least he creates architecture which is more than you can say for a lot of those corporate turkeys who fancy themselves as architects.
p.s. Kill that idea for the Johnson/Burgee (PPG Place) pointy bits atop 101 Bathurst - they don't work. Height ain't everything in every case. I'm sure Foster can come up with something a bit more elegant and convincing.
p.p.s. For fans of PPG Place watch The Guardian on tv Wednesday nights @ 8.30.
p.p.ps. L.A. fans, the Library Tower et al, check out Boomtown also on Wednesday nights - check that opening sequence!

its about time that crater will be filled. Great design but im very very relieved that its not a seidler!

This one looks good I can't believe how much the stretch from Bathurst to Goulburn Streets is changing. I remember on George street around Martin Place before World Tower started how the HSBC Tower stood right out, now it's totally dwarfed. Also with those shops around KFC I wonder how many people know that they are standing over a 20 odd metre deep pit.

See article in today's (29.04) SMH in features page, by Elizabeth Farrelly: hmmnnn...
Farrelly is sharp-penned, "bolshie" and cynical but she knows her onions. She is also literate and often downright entertaining though I would say she gets up the respective noses of some of our bigger named developers, architects and bureaucrats.
Go, Liz!

On that same article- there is a huge black and white rendering of the tower. It's worth keeping. The article itself is a great read too.

Elizabeth Farrelly is cool. she used to love collecting my drawings. she was in my dept as a councilor for many years. she loved a chat about scrapers.all 6ft of her!

Where Can I find this Article On the Smh website its hard to find

Here's the link to the article

http://www.smh.com.au/text/articles/2003/04/28/1051381900202.htm

I don't know anymore. After reading that article I get the impression that 101 Bathurst is not 100% certain to go ahead. I hope this is not the case.

It's 100% that SOMETHING will be built on the site in the next.....50 YEARS!!!!!

This developer is notorious for farting around with projects. Combine that with the oversupply in the CBD apartment market.

I won't be holding my breath on this baby.>(

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wow! what a read! preeety harsh!!!she really put it to foster! but thats her job , shes an architecture critic! she jokes around alot of the time!
anyway

i have it from the planner than Greencliffs want to start before end of year!
he knows more than farrelly about its status!

;)

The article isn't worth the paper its written on. There is alot of politics being played in that article. If she wants to critique a building fine, but leave the politics out of it. It really is unprofessional.

Wasn't Foster the one that designed the rebuilding of the reichstag in Germany ? Now that is brilliance.

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I think we can be it fairer to Farrely than that!

The politics is a description of the politics around the site, which is pretty informative. I don't think she is herself playin excessively political games.

And to be fiar she agrees Foster is brilliant; she just thinks (and I agree) that as far as we can tell from the preliminary drawings this is not top drawer Foster. That doesn't mean it's a bad building, nor does it mean it won't be better than most of the buildings in the area (or indeed in the CBD as a whole). Just that it's a mild pity that the chance for a great foster (or someone else) is lost. But hey: who knows how the prelims may change; maybe for the worse but also maybe for the better, And also, the internal layout issues she describes does speak of a brutally cost minimizing approach to the interior.

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I can see this getting off the ground as soon as all the red tape is dealt with.

There is an oversupply, but this will go ahead regardless. People will still buy, but getting tenants will be the hard part:D

It is the role of the critic to inform as well as comment and I think Farrelly does this rather well even if it is usually with a tart wit. She wants to promote discussion and thought rather than simply toe a particular party or approved party line. If you want pure information, just read the news; if you want to be stirred and maybe even have your ideas challenged, read criticism. She is earthier that Paul Goldberg and less patrician than Ada Louise Huxtable who have been excellent architectural critics in recent decades, but she is always a bloody good read. And she is local! Our only genuine newspaper architecture critic so love her even if you violently disagree with what she says from time to time and be grateful that she exists, can write and has something to say with a bit of passion albeit cynically at times.

Just one question regarding the model of Foster's design.

When will we expect to see it on the city model?

Just a guess, but it would save CULWULLA a lot of work until when and if the architectural features are added to the Foster structures. Or will the models will come from the developer :?

Four new levels of retail might be needed once all the new developments i.e. Lobana, W.T., E & Y & East @ Latitude (although there will be a huge retail precinct included there) Meriton Tower (retail levels there too) and the Foster Towers are completed. Plus as the overall population of Sydney naturally keeps growing.

Of course there will be some form of entertainment i.e. bars, restaurants and other stuff provided. Just not cinemas - but hey, who needs more cinemas in the area when that huge Hoyts/G.U./Village megaplex has something like 25 screens!

It would be nice if they just add a twin art house type cinema though.

About Farrelly herself....she seems to know a lot about local development and its history. Wonder if she reads this forum?

The developers considered an art house cinema but canned it because they believed it wouldn't be viable as the strip is likely to be known as "the lifestyle strip" by the end of the decade.

this is a more updated thread, i got rid of other one
here is my last reply on other thread.

DA IS BEING LODGED NEXT WEEK!!!!
The architects for this long awaited baby contacted us today to inform us the model will be coming in next week! yippee!
this should look bloody awesome! the 50storey apartment tower + 35storey serviced unit tower!
ill be sure to take pix of new models.
Also new Aspect model will be in either this week of next!
cheers

50 levels. Like hell. More like 35. No need to clarify because I know the crap system of levels they use.

Example- Bank of China= Genuine 75 stories
World Tower supposedly 75 stories more like 60.

Originally posted by climbing_crane
50 levels. Like hell. More like 35. No need to clarify because I know the crap system of levels they use.

Example- Bank of China= Genuine 75 stories
World Tower supposedly 75 stories more like 60.
when i quoted 50 levels, i ment 41 above ground and 9 below. Also its 150m to flat roof so that the impressive bit! also tower 2 is 35 levels or 130m+.
world tower is 83storeys in total or 73 storeys above Liverpool Street!
:)

So is the underground join to Town Hall arcade in or out? From the article I can't tell. And what's this arcade to Kent St?

After this one is finished, that's all the residential density I want on George St at least down to haymarket. Getting a bit full. Time to spread east a bit methinks, there's a lot of unused space along wentworth avenue etc. And let's hope the cinema is prettied up a bit!

hk

There still will be an arcade linking the scraper with Town Hall Station. It might mean those ugly toilets might have to be relocated.

Originally posted by Fabian
There still will be an arcade linking the scraper with Town Hall Station. It might mean those ugly toilets might have to be relocated.

There will be no link to town hall arcade! where did you read that!
An earlier proposal years ago had a link but council didnt approve.
not sure why?

Hey Cul, are you expecting the DA to come in with NO rooftop "treatment"( e.g spire, decorative stuff) and simply be 150m to roof , or will there be a nice little bonus up there ?

Originally posted by spazpecker
Hey Cul, are you expecting the DA to come in with NO rooftop "treatment"( e.g spire, decorative stuff) and simply be 150m to roof , or will there be a nice little bonus up there ?
i think th council liked the idea of flat roof no exciting stuff up there, so we will have to see! hopefully this week DA/model will come in!
:guns1:

Foster has done an outstanding job on the roof without adding a feature on top.

Originally posted by CULWULLA
i think th council liked the idea of flat roof no exciting stuff up there, so we will have to see! hopefully this week DA/model will come in!
:guns1:

Leave the design as it is! There's nothing wrong with it!

Can't wait to see the model!:D

This is the model at present. I guess the new one will be better

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/03/184683.jpg

Taken by CULWULLA

it will be very similar! i think the roof has a step now but could be wrong? i think its still 150m.
this will be the closest scraper to me at work UC. i cant miss it. i will see it several times a day from my front entrance on sydney sq. i feel a thousand pix coming on!lol

oooh so close to 500 ft :rant:

Most of the temporary stores along George Street now have either "Closing Down Sale" or "Liquidation Sale" signs on their windows. Just hurry up and close, will yas!! There are towers to be built!!!

Thats been going on ever since the start of the year. You wonder how much longer they are going to be there for.

True Fabian LOL. How long can you have a closing sale for? Geez! :|

the Foster group will lodge DA for 101 Bathurst either today or next week! So those damn shops might have to actually close down soon!lol

DA will be lodged tommorrow!!
Got the tip off from model maker who is making the DA. He said its still a flat top (nothing above 150m mark). so i quess this is ok. Ill be sure to take photos of new model insitu! hopefiully they will lodge before 5pm!
cheers

Ah well, here we go! About time too! It's good news that the roof will remain it is. ie. FLAT! No messing about!

*me cracks open champagne bottle*

LOL @ Cul's quote on relatives! very true!

About bloody time! Can't wait to see some action - with or without an architectural feature on the roof!! :D

Sydney's 3 nastiest sites will be developed soon!!

- Regent Theatre site
- 720 George
- 330 George

:guns1: :guns1: :guns1:

DA Lodged!!! but no model for another week! but ive borrowed a DA submission booklet which has out of this world renderings which ill post tonight!!!
heights-
TOWER A- 151m /47storeys
TOWER B- 114m/ 35 storeys!!
beautiful details on the podium and tower. very similar to competition design!

Originally posted by CULWULLA
DA Lodged!!! but no model for another week! but ive borrowed a DA submission booklet which has out of this world renderings which ill post tonight!!!
heights-
TOWER A- 151m /47storeys
TOWER B- 114m/ 35 storeys!!
beautiful details on the podium and tower. very similar to competition design!

Soooooo close to 500 feet - out by just 4 puny feet or the height of.......a washing machine !!!

5 storey sandstone podium???

Can't wait to see renderings! :)

So that means 12 stories=37 metres. Or roughly 3 metres a story.:)

spaz-i look at it like its OVER 150m high. fuc the imperial system, where in metric overhere in oz.lol.[150m/500ft same thing! ]
Its 150m to flat roof and the concrete blades go a further 1metre thus 151m. its actually 156m from the Kent st entrance anyway!
Its roof is even higher than HSBC above sea level- 101 bathurst is RL172m, HSBC =Rl169m.
There will be a 20m roof top pool between the towers on the podium.Also a library in the kent st tower.

well here they are!!!
I love how the tower 'floats" above the podium as a separate element.
The application describes the facade as -mid tint greys and mixtures of dark grey balustrades. In each tower the top 3 floors are clear glass with solar reflective panels.The plantrooms are centrally located on these floors.

sorry for sloppy scans

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/212943.jpg

you can see shadow on smaller tower -how the top 3 floors are see thru.i couldnt get ground floor in due to size of render.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/212944.jpg

great view from kent st showing both towers.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/212945.jpg

from George st north.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/212946.jpg

classic shot from QVB-

Should look awesome on overcast days!Imagine having views looking over cathedral & Townhall.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/212947.jpg

View from Darling harbour. should really densify the area into one of the best cluster of scrapers in Oz.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/212949.jpg

Tower B will be serviced apartments. 114m/35storeys-nice and slender!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/212948.jpg


cheers

FUCK YEH! WOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!! LIKE AWESOME Y'ALL!!! :D

That is one awesome lookin tower! another 150+m for sydney- fuck the imperial system!!

Is that silver aluminium facade i see?????

*cletus*it all shiny and priddy mama. I likes it! *cletus*

Fantastic! Brilliant! Exceptional! WOWO!
Big thanks to Cul for getting these scans in so quick!

HAHA! I must say, everytime I look at this structure I can't help but get excited at the whole impressiveness of it all. This will be a godsend for Sydney! Imagine, 2 Lord Foster towers in our little ol' city. Amazing...

And look at Tower B, it's not as small as I thought it would be. It's going to be brilliant. I love the 2nd last shot, the render from the Darling Harbour... look at British refinement standing out amongst that FILTH! More! MORE! MORE!

Amen. Can't wait till it starts. Any hints Cul, considering that the hole is dug, as it were?

Wow looking good, I wonder when construction will start, hope its half as good as the scans!!!!!

Not a bad looker! :D

I like it! Blends nicely with HSBC Building! Looks best from Darling Harbour....Looks mighty from QVB (south George St will be the best canyon in town!)

I kinda dislike the podium - maybe it's just a render, but looks pretty basic, something like Meriton (Village) Tower podium...

Let's hope this baby will be u/c soon! What a transformation of this 'ugly' end of town - 101 Bathurst, Meriton, Cassia, Rialto, World Tower, Latitude, East, Civic, North, Aspect, 720 George.........

:guns1:

It's not fair, seriously this is bullshit. Sydney get all these awesome buildings going up all over the place. Why can't some of these towers come to Adelaide. I'm not being selfish, but can Adelaide have this one please??

Originally posted by pikey
It's not fair, seriously this is bullshit. Sydney get all these awesome buildings going up all over the place. Why can't some of these towers come to Adelaide. I'm not being selfish, but can Adelaide have this one please??

IMO Adelaide has potential. But when will developers recognise this?? Also, Adelaide City Council sounds pretty backwards from what Ive heard...

I feel sympathy for you, I really do! Sydney currently has over 6 scrapers UC taller than your tallest! :D

We have 3 new tall scrapers planned for Adelaide, 20, 21 and 26 levels which will be nice and everything, but when are the 35, 45 levels jobbies gonna surface??!!?

thanks for the feedback on the heights Cul. So do you call this babt 156m or 151m ? Not that it really matters.....

Just out of interest Cul - how do you decide which part of the site to take the height from?

Obviously the height above sea level varies across the site, and I know that it is often said that the height should be taken from the main entrance, but since the tower is set back on the podium that isn't possible...I guess you just draw a direct vertical line from the highest point on the tower (which I guess is the top concrete fins) to where it hits the ground?

But then again, that would vary as well, as the fins on the west side of the tower would be higher above the ground than those on the east side of the tower...sounds pretty bloody fussy to me!

Originally posted by finn
Just out of interest Cul - how do you decide which part of the site to take the height from?

Obviously the height above sea level varies across the site, and I know that it is often said that the height should be taken from the main entrance, but since the tower is set back on the podium that isn't possible...I guess you just draw a direct vertical line from the highest point on the tower (which I guess is the top concrete fins) to where it hits the ground?

But then again, that would vary as well, as the fins on the west side of the tower would be higher above the ground than those on the east side of the tower...sounds pretty bloody fussy to me!
the top RL of blades are 172m. The height of street at bathurst street entrance (next to MBF) is RL21m, thus 151m above street.
I wish the blades has another 1m on them this would take them to 152m. lol

Wow, 101 Bathurst Street seems pretty wide for a residential building! How many apartments will there be, and how many on each floor?

Originally posted by AG
Wow, 101 Bathurst Street seems pretty wide for a residential building! How many apartments will there be, and how many on each floor? Tower A will consist of 447 units (av 10 per floor)
Tower b will have 140 units.
total-587units, which is more than Eureka or Q1!!
There will be 8 levels of carspaces which will total 600.

Is there any news about the old Bank of Wales Building (now Kentucky Chook)? Will it be engulfed by this monsta?

Originally posted by museumb
Is there any news about the old Bank of Wales Building (now Kentucky Chook)? Will it be engulfed by this monsta? It remains as it is (i think).but ill find out

Originally posted by museumb
Is there any news about the old Bank of Wales Building (now Kentucky Chook)? Will it be engulfed by this monsta?

No need to fear. I assume it will be around for many years to come.

thats a cool KFC. 3 levels- i love eating chicken there lookin up at citigroup tower- a great pasttime of mine.

Muse- were you asking about if the bldg itself was staying or KFC???
The bldg itself is heritage protected!! but KFC could move out tommorrow!(but it wont)lol

I apologise in advance for asking this question........but I can't help but WONDER how tall this baby would have gone if it weren't for the 150m height limit.
A 230m version of this design has been stuck in my friggin god damn head for almost 2 days now...........once again I'm terribly sorry................:jippo:

Originally posted by spazpecker
I apologise in advance for asking this question........but I can't help but WONDER how tall this baby would have gone if it weren't for the 150m height limit.
A 230m version of this design has been stuck in my friggin god damn head for almost 2 days now...........once again I'm terribly sorry................:jippo:
I think the location opposite St Anrews cathedral also lowered its potential. I reckon 200m would of look awesome! same design as foster one!

What this design needs is more height!! ahh what could have been.. (sorry bout the dodgy job, lol)

http://www.lewycomputing.com.au/andy/hhh.gif

Now that looks cool!:guns1:

i did a render for skyscraperpage.com (my first!)

http://www.lewycomputing.com.au/andy/101bath.gif

ill do the base later

models are in!!
as you can see the project is massive. really densifys the town hall precinct!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/09/215088.jpg

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/09/215089.jpg


http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/09/215090.jpg

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/09/215091.jpg

Very impressive! :cool:

Hope it's gonna be built soon - no need to excavate, Goddam hole is already there! :D

Yeh the buildings really make an impact in this part of the city.....I know of the height restrictions, but gee this baby would have looked awesome at 200m plus!!

Originally posted by AltiusAltiusAltius
Very impressive! :cool:

Hope it's gonna be built soon - no need to excavate, Goddam hole is already there! :D

Not only that, but when those temporary shops close down FINALLY and are removed, imagine the vista! And what a feeling it will be to walk past the site when it's in full cosrtuction mode! It'll bring tears to my ears, the last major hole in the ground being filled.
And not with some shite, this is Foster, Lord Foster Dammit.

Impressive. It doesn't look as bulky as before.

Yesterday (Saturday) I called into BookStar which is a U.S. discount book chain on the site and spoke with the day manager. She told me their lease runs out in late November and that she doesn't expect the construction of the George Street facing tower to start until the new year - at least just before above gound.

The Kent Street side lower tower will hopefully start construction before that....surely.

Also popped into the gift store next to K.F.C. and they told me they're on a month-to-month lease.

Just bloody well close, will youze? ;)

At the rate this is going, they will set a world record for worlds longest clearance sale. It was still a hive of activity when walking past on Thursday.

And when will they approve these towers too so these shops can close for good.

Originally posted by CULWULLA
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I really like this tower design... it looks awesome... :)

I can really feel this one starting to warm up. At last:)



http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/p959fb1e3f05ce40b6b1e2a6fd8d86202/fa9ddf12.jpg

This one is set to start early 2004. so since the excavations are already done, the crane will turn up before you know it and concrete will be a pumpin!:guns1:

Keep that pic Mr Crane. It will make a great "before and after" shot.

And when will this tower get approved? It's taking forever.

Originally posted by Fabian
Keep that pic Mr Crane. It will make a great "before and after" shot.
And when will this tower get approved? It's taking forever.

that pic is too dark!!! you still have a couple of months to retake !lol!

the development has been aready been approved! its just a few minor things to give official ok. It ws approved earlier this year!

Originally posted by CULWULLA
the development has been aready been approved! its just a few minor things to give official ok. It ws approved earlier this year!

Why is it still white on the model?

I deleted that pic Fabian. Way to dark.

Originally posted by finn
Why is it still white on the model?
it all comes down to the minor details and approvals with stamps ect. I know for a fact there were some "issues" at ground level AND below so once these are sorted out the WHOLE project is given approval! The towers themselves have already got planning approval! its the internal configurations ect take longer.
Ill ask this week when does it get final approval.

Good to hear then Cul
Step Red is one step closer for us all !
And will give you some thing to do :)

The shops on site are still open. When will it end?

Originally posted by Fabian
The shops on site are still open. When will it end?

Two shops have now closed and the others are in their last days.

The Convience store is acting defiant, staying open as per normal.

We've seen this all before. The shops have their "MASSIVE CLOSING DOWN SALE: EVERYTHING MUST GO - LAST DAYS" and then they close. Then 2 weeks later, another bunch of shops open up.

Rinse, Recycle, Repeat.

LOL @ fro. True, however this looks like the real McCoy. They've been saying all along this will be their last days i.e. final leases running out before the end of the year.

Strange that they closed now and miss on Xmas trade as that must be worth some thing ?

Originally posted by Trances
Strange that they closed now and miss on Xmas trade as that must be worth some thing ? For the developers Greencliff, this year's Xmas trade for the stores is 'chicken feed'. Thyey're more interested in the longer term profits in building the Foster towers.

BTW BookStars on the site is closing this coming Tuesday i.e. 25th November - yipee!

big news! project to start in Feb-mar!
i chatted to one of the project managers on 101 bathurst st and he said that the project will be given final nod early dec, and the project will start up in feb-mar 2004. The podium and kent St tower will commence firstly with the 2nd larger (151m) tower to start later. he said the big tower could even start along with the rest of project depending on market situation.
So its good news and bad.

The smaller tower will commence first-
Tower B will be serviced apartments. 114m/35storeys-nice and slender!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/212948.jpg

Originally posted by CULWULLA
big news! project to start in Feb-mar!
i chatted to one of the project managers on 101 bathurst st and he said that the project will be given final nod early dec, and the project will start up in feb-mar 2004. The podium and kent St tower will commence firstly with the 2nd larger (151m) tower to start later. he said the big tower could even start along with the rest of project depending on market situation.
So its good news and bad.

The smaller tower will commence first-
Tower B will be serviced apartments. 114m/35storeys-nice and slender!


Yay! I'm not concerned if the larger tower doesn't get built straight away - I'll just be over the moon to have that massive pit filled, and a decent active frontage (meaning more than temporary bargain stores!) along that stretch of George Street!

The shorter tower getting underway will be an added bonus - I guess they feel confident about starting that one up, as they have a confirmed manager for the serviced apartments I think :? Does anyone know who will manage it?

Anyway, great news! :D

Originally posted by Muse

BTW BookStars on the site is closing this coming Tuesday i.e. 25th November - yipee!

...And it has now opened a store up George St across the road from Dymocks.

Good/bad news! :D

It's good to have at least something underway but I don't like the idea of postponing the major tower....

We heard the same story 4 years ago - let's build a podium at least and the tower will come when the market picks up....Of course we had a dodgy developer back in the late 90s - this time it is far more serious! :)

Also "Feb-Mar" start may well be "Nov-Dec" as we have already experienced with Aspect tower!

I am still a bit sceptical...Cautious optimism guys! :angel1:

I just want to see a crane, preferably a climbing one, on site.

Did anyone see the centre liftout of Financial Review today? There was a section called- VERTICAL VILLAGE which was about 101 Bathurst st being the first "Vertical Village" outside of Asia. There were a couple of renders ect..
Developed by Stanley Qeuk, he means that the whole complex is self supported, no need to leave! Its a great article, can some one post it from fin site?

Vertical Village? Wouldn't QV and Freshwater Place be vertical villages?

Originally posted by Grollo
Vertical Village? Wouldn't QV and Freshwater Place be vertical villages?

I wouldn't worry too much. I think the Fin review spells "Vertical Village" as "Hyperbole." It's a new western dialect.

Anyway, about 101, I'm happy about the news that it's gonna start relatively soon. Should be bloody weird walking past that site and seeing SOME CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY! EGADS! WHAT'S THE WORLD COMING TOO!?!

Also noticed the books stores ARE ACTUALLY CLOSING!!! Yes, guys you were right. And don't worry C_C, there'll be heaps of climbing cranes on site. DONT WORRY MATE.

Originally posted by Grollo
Vertical Village? Wouldn't QV and Freshwater Place be vertical villages?
that was i was thinking,does QV/fwp have shopping centres, apartments for large familys,schooling facilities, community centre ect ect. I think a 'village" is more than a unit block with just units.be interesting to find out if other complexes have this.

@fro- you can bet a couple of cranes will be on site in Feb!
cheers

Does 101 Bathurst have a school???? QV and FWP will be much closer to Vertical Villages than this development. The Como Development in South yarra would have been the first Vertical Village in Australia with two apartment towers, an office tower, 5 star hotel, shopping centre and a cinema, all in the one complex.

Here is the article:

When Stanley Quek was mulling over who to get to design his $500 million Regent Theatre apartment project in Sydney there was one guiding principle.

The Singapore developer wanted a commercial architect - someone more familiar with designing office towers and museums than multistorey city apartment blocks - to bring his vision to life.

For Quek, the chairman and managing director of Greencliff, it was a way of bringing fresh concepts into residential design, of taking apartment living to a new level. A design competition awarded the brief to Foster and Partners, the internationally renowned firm headed by Norman Foster and the designer of such landmarks as Berlin's Reichstag, the international airport at Chek Lap Kok, Hong Kong, and the 126 Phillip Street office tower in Sydney.

"I wanted new ideas - I wanted to get architects to think out of the box, and they have," says Quek. "I've challenged them . . . they're not experts in residential, they have no preconceived ideas."

What Foster and Partners proposed was a pair of see-through towers, floating above a five-storey sandstone podium. A 48-storey residential tower facing Bathurst Street will contain more than 450 apartments, next to a 33-storey tower of 180 serviced apartments on Kent Street.

What Quek hopes to achieve is a true vertical village - a concept Quek believes many developers have tried and failed to create successfully outside Asia.

The vertical village creates an environment in which people can "live, work and play" without taking a step outside.

Quek says the eight upper apartments will house the "village chiefs" and, at 300 square metres each, they will be the equivalent of a manor house with their own concierge. Further down the tower will be Quek's version of the semi-detached home, and below that the one-bedrooms and studios or, as Quek calls them, the "first rung on the ladder".

Isn't that perpetuating a class system? Not according to Quek, who says the design incorporates a village common where people can interact, shop in the five levels of convenience retailing, swim in the 50-metre swimming pool, relax in the residents' lounge and rent theatrettes to show films or home movies.

Residents will also be able to draw on the facilities provided in the adjoining serviced apartment tower - for instance, have dinner parties catered for or their apartments spring-cleaned.

The serviced apartments will be run by Asian giant Fraser Serviced Residences in its entry into Australia.

As for the internal design, Quek firmly believes apartment buyers are tired of minimalism - the style that has been de rigueur in recent years. "People are looking for a little more luxury, a little more comfort and not pure, pure design," he says. "We want to do something that's sophisticated, something's that's timeless, something that's elegant."

Some of the ideas put forward by Foster and Partners include devices that light the space without needing apertures in the ceiling - such as illuminated glass counters in the kitchen lit from beneath, fibre-optic lighting strips in the skirting boards, uplighting from the floor, and back-illuminated panels.

To house the technology, Foster has proposed the "living" wall, which can be hidden by a sliding panel finished with a choice of screen-printed glass, coloured glass or even printed fabric.

Concealed showers in the bathroom and adaptable kitchens are also on the menu.

The initial concept for the kitchen is for it to be a transformable box, where the cooking area can be closed off behind sliding doors to give the living space a changing character.

The island bench becomes an extension of the living room and can house a portable mini-bar that can be wheeled on to the balcony for drinks.

Quek hopes to start work on the development in the new year, ahead of a formal launch in February or March.

He is unconcerned about persistent talk of an oversupply of CBD apartments in Sydney.

"Specific developers with secondary locations will struggle," he says, "but this is a special location which can't be built out. And we won't be completed for four years."

Prices have yet to be set, but Quek says the average price will range between $9000 and $12,000 a square metre.

thanks for posting that grol. the come project sounds cool, when was that compelted?

This is great stuff! :)

We're lucky Harry T. didn't buy this site! I reckon it's been much better to wait a little longer rather than to have Genting or Meriton as developers. Greencliff are legends! At least we'll have a great design both externally and internally!

Can Foster design one more "vertical village" in the City pls? - say a brand new John Boyd tower for Lend Lease!? :D

Only 2 stores left open on George Street and one of them is "Last day tomorrow". The convenience store will be the last one to go!

This time it's definitely for real!

Great To hear
This made a move while I was off the forums

I hope this picture injects some much needed joy into people

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid90/p974570cbb6492d868439fd29c8102b95/fa74d863.jpg

Yeah it's great to see those shops disappear forever!:D But nothing will beat the day when 720 George shops are finally pulled down! :D :D

Originally posted by AltiusAltiusAltius
Yeah it's great to see those shops disappear forever!:D But nothing will beat the day when 720 George shops are finally pulled down! :D :D

I second that! But this is VERY good news. Finally, after all these years 101 looks like it's going ahead, even if it's just the Kent St tower I don't care. At least the podium will be built up on the George St side and it will look good. Can't wait.

Are they still looking to start this December?

On a totally unrelated note, i like this smiley::dizzy:

Originally posted by fro
I second that! But this is VERY good news. Finally, after all these years 101 looks like it's going ahead, even if it's just the Kent St tower I don't care. At least the podium will be built up on the George St side and it will look good. Can't wait.

Are they still looking to start this December?

On a totally unrelated note, i like this smiley::dizzy:
february/march is start date!!! -this is what developer has told me.
cheers

I walked past the site today and all the shops are closed bar one clothing shop. And surprise surprise, they've got advertising for the new tower... it's called <dumroll> lumiere - Regent Place

Official lumiere website here:
http://www.regentplace.com.au/


Here's the main text from the website:

Located in the historic centre of Sydney beside St Andrews Cathedral and Sydney Town Hall, Regent Place is Australia’s first vertical village.

The award-winning and internationally acclaimed British architectural firm, Foster and Partners, is transforming this iconic precinct into a lively urban quarter where people can live, work and enjoy life in the city. Regent Place will comprise a dynamic 5 level retail and commercial complex, the residential lumière, and the serviced residences of Frasier Suites.

Floating skywards from Regent Place, lumière is a 56 storey residential tower linking the city to the sky. Foster and Partner’s visionary landmark will optimise light through its intelligent and innovative design features and finishes, providing residents with a uniquely invigorating space.

On Regent Place’s sandstone podium sits a tranquil setting with expansive outdoor areas that are sun-drenched and green. You will also enjoy health and recreational facilities, while maintaining vigour with an indoor/outdoor 50 metre swimming pool.

Be part of this innovative, timeless and elegant creation that will progress Sydney living to a new dimension.
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Sounds good!

Fantastic! :)

Regent Place is a perfect name for the complex! :)

Lumiere - the tower of light, innovative skyscraper 'floating' above the 5 storey podium will be one of the best places to live in the CBD (maybe only Bennelong apartments are better...)

Regent dream is finally coming true! :cool:

Right time @ right place fro. Good one!

Web site a wee pretentious but hey, no complaints.

So the whole complex is known as Regent Place (I guess the base will be known commonly as that), the tallest as lumiere and obviously Frasier Suites :? for the minor tower. Who the hell are Frasier Suites? Maybe a company based in Seattle ;)

Originally posted by Muse
Right time @ right place fro. Good one!

Web site a wee pretentious but hey, no complaints.

So the whole complex is known as Regent Place (I guess the base will be known commonly as that), the tallest as lumiere and obviously Frasier Suites :? for the minor tower. Who the hell are Frasier Suites? Maybe a company based in Seattle ;)

Lol, I couldn't believe it. I had to actually blink twice to make sure it wasn't all some sort of weird dream. But, no. It was really real. I hardly ever get to be the one who breaks the big news... well, this is relatively big. Hey, I beat Cul to the punch. That's gotta count for something, right? :colgate:

ONYA Fro you crazy "mo - fro" ! :guns1:

It is great things are finally moving and we are getting a couple more of Foster's buildings, but could some-one shoot the wanker that wrote, oops, sorry, "composed", that load of crap that pretends to be English. It is an embarrassingly good example of "purple prose". Anyone who writes that sort of abortion of the English language has two things:
1. an ill-used, misunderstood Roget's Thesaurus; and
2. a lack of understanding of the English language.
The buildings are excellent architecture so why can't they find a copy writer to match?
Could we send them a copy of Don Watson's recent book Death Sentence: The Decay of Public Language?
In case you can't tell, that sort of pseudo-intellectual, pooncy, poser "writing" really pisses me off.

Lumina is good name for the taller tower but the name Fraiser Suites for the serviced apartments isn't very appealing. A catchy one worder will be just as appealing.

And the name of the development Regent Place is excellent, trying to tie in with it's predecessor The Regent Theatre. When I think the name, I will be reminded of it's past and present as well.

cool names! on the spot fro! ive actually just returned from 3 days at Hunter Valley winerys! so havent been in cbd. but back tommorrow to check it out!

ill amend stats on ss.com.:guns1:

Australia's first Vertical Village:
;)
http://www.rpvht.com.au/projects/projectsheetimages/025.jpg
;)

Promotional material has now appeared on the windows of the former shops.

And they put this really good diagram of the towers as well on it. Have a look next time you pass.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid92/pc5950e9cdcfbfe38e122d16fc049ea73/fa547c01.jpg

And former tenant Bookstars has now opened another store along what I call "the bargain mile" in Pitt St between Market and Park Sts.

Note on hoarding diagram the spelling is Fraser, not Frasier, Serviced Apartments.
Regent Place is going to look bloody elegant.

Originally posted by Grollo
Australia's first Vertical Village:
;)
http://www.rpvht.com.au/projects/projectsheetimages/025.jpg
;)
yeah i guess in a way, but its only a small tower (20storeys) and isnt in centre of a CBD. The Regent place complex is on a city block smack bang on George st centre of CBD and is nearly 50storeys with no ground areas such as parks ect, only podium and tower. thus a "vertical village" not spread out as Como project on 5 hectare site.;)

Who cares who was the first. Lumiere will be the classiest by far. Bring on some of that British class. By god, Sydney needs all it can get :D *cough*Meritonia*cough* :bash:

Just got some news from people in the know that this one will start in april.

Originally posted by MrTall
Just got some news from people in the know that this one will start in april.
i was informed a few weeks ago from Greencliffs that construction will start in march with podium and shorrter tower to be built first.
either way its bloody good news!

officially approved thursday night!
so all guns blazing for construction to start feb/march 2004!:guns1:

The smaller tower I assume.

Originally posted by climbing_crane
The smaller tower I assume.
the smaller tower + the 8 storeys of carparking and 4 storey podium structure! The taller tower might also start next year IF the real estate markets are looking positive!

Called into the Sydney model yesterday @ Town Hall and both lumiere & Fraser Suites are now sprayed gray. Yey! :D

Originally posted by Muse
Called into the Sydney model yesterday @ Town Hall and both lumiere & Fraser Suites are now sprayed gray. Yey! :D

I actually grabbed a pic of it in grey just the other day.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid97/p7d4c08e21745026a407f7e970bfef1cf/fa0a0f64.jpg

i sprayed it grey before xmas!:D
ill be spraying red in march!:guns1:

Bring on March!!

Originally posted by CULWULLA
i sprayed it grey before xmas!:D
ill be spraying red in march!:guns1:

Shouldn't you be spraying only the smaller tower? Not that I care if they decide to go ahead and build both towers at once!

Both towers must be red by March! :cool: Hope they could start working on Lumiere tower podium this year! :guns1:

Originally posted by fro
....Not that I care if they decide to go ahead and build both towers at once! Exactly. Just build the fuckin' things, quick smart!!

Originally posted by fro
Shouldn't you be spraying only the smaller tower? Not that I care if they decide to go ahead and build both towers at once!
yeah i think thats the case. the podium and serviced apats red and maybe Lumeire later on? depending

Watch this space

http://img8.photobucket.com/albums/v28/Fabian/b4e86319.jpg

And this will be my offical vantage point to follow the construction of the complex.

Nice pic of the old Bank of NSW building, now KFC.

Can't wait till that rotten wall of the George Street Hoyts/G.U. wall is disappears. It's such an embaressment.

BTW Fabian. How do you propose to either take pics of the below ground construction shots and sections of the lower floors of Fraser Suites?

You'll possibly get some nifty shots atop of The Energy Oz Building podium a few floors up where there is a cafeteria.

The roof of Town Hall House will be good as well. The first basement floor or two may not be visible though.

And Muse,I will grab pics from other locations too which will change from time to time.

Passed the site on George Street after meeting Lucy Turnbull (I had an appointment with her) and there are the beginnings of new hoardings jutting out on the George Street side outside the enclosed glass adverts within.

Does this herald the true beginning of the long awaited greencliff/Foster & Assoc.. What else would it be?

Finally, at long last :)

Just get builidng guys!

Originally posted by Muse
Passed the site on George Street after meeting Lucy Turnbull (I had an appointment with her) and there are the begginings of new hoardings jutting out on the George Street side outside the enclosed glass adverts within.

Does this herald the true beginning of the long awaited greencliff/Foster & Assoc.. What else would it be?

Finally, at long last :)

Just get builidng guys!

wow, how is lucy? what did ya talk about?
http://www.bobsliberace.com/decades/1970s/1970s.image/lucy.1.jpg

Greencliffs told me late last year that they are scheduled for an early march commencement ! i reckon in feb they will start site works getting it ready ect for the foundation stages.

Originally posted by Muse
Passed the site on George Street after meeting Lucy Turnbull (I had an appointment with her)

Are you bein serious? If you are, what are u doin meetin lucy turnbull?

http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1056220579359_2003/06/24/home_kingscross.jpg oooh yeh ;)

O.K you jokers, CULWULLA and SydneyDude (and yes I was being serious). I had a business meeting with The Lord Mayor of Sydney, Lucy T. yesterday. After our 15 minute discussion, she personally signed my copy of her book, "Sydney, Biogrgraphy Of A City". We spoke for a further 5 minutes about her book and other political issues. Confidential of course ;) .

***BTW There are now further diagrams on the Bathurst St of the site, including the now known flash web site @ http://www.regentplace.com.au :) .

Originally posted by Muse
O.K you jokers, CULWULLA and SydneyDude (and yes I was being serious). I had a business meeting with The Lord Mayor of Sydney, Lucy T. yesterday. After our 15 minute discussion, she personally signed my copy of her book, "Sydney, Biogrgraphy Of A City". We spoke for a further 5 minutes about her book and other political issues. Confidential of course ;) .

There are now further diagrams on the Bathurst St of the site, including the now known flash web site @ http://www.regentplace.com.au :) .

Hey cool man! maybe you can talk her into approving thakrals proposal for Wynyard :guns1:

Umm what famous people have i met?... Ive met Paulini lol :)

Originally posted by SydneyDude
Hey cool man! maybe you can talk her into approving thakrals proposal for Wynyard :guns1:Unfortunately that is not possible Sydneydue as she is not running for Lord Mayor in the next City of Sydney elections. As she explained to me, she is putting her energies into the proposed sleazoid Labor propsals to change the boundaries thus creating a gerrymander. Nothing worse that a gerrymander :puke: . Gerrymander = dividing a voting area so as to give your own party an unfair advantage. Blah!!

Now hey, let's concetrate on lumiere and Fraser Suites @ Regent Place from now :okay: !!

lumiere will be 150m / 492ft to roof and Fraser Suites will be 110m / 369ft. lumiere may still have a 10-15m roof top feature added. Indeed, time will tell. ;)

hey i was serious!;) The DA plans ive scaled off indicate the height of Lumiere as 150m to roof slab and 151m to stumpy blades that encircle the tower.
The shorter guy (Frazier Suites is 113m to roof slab and 114m to blades.)
The 17storey DA for Bible house cnr site (betwen MBF and Frazier Suites is set to come in soon.

Kent st elevation.

http://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/212948.jpg


I would love for Lumierie to have a roof feature but ive been told this is highly unlikely.

Yeah, it's a shame....This great tower deserves some architectural feature on the top....But I am still very happy this project is now very close to its construction stage! It's been a long and agonising wait since the demolition of the good old Regent Theatre....Genting, Meriton and Grocon have failed but Greencliff will deliver! :colgate:

There's hoardings up on the George Street side if no one's mentioned it. And quite a few of the old shops windows are all gone.

EDIT: Simple c_c. Just go back and read some of the recent posts.

Originally posted by climbing_crane
There's hoardings up on the George Street side if no one's mentioned it. And quite a few of the old shops windows are all gone.

There have been there since early december. I took this on December 11 of part of the hoardings.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid92/pc5950e9cdcfbfe38e122d16fc049ea73/fa547c01.jpg

Fabian

What on earth are you talking about? :weird:

The beginning of the hoardings only started to appear last week. That pic you just reposted were the ads for the development behind glass. No hoardings were there on Dec. 11/03, only your reflection in the glass.

BTW Fabian. Did you read my last post that included my quotes?

Muse, I did read those posts. I thought those billboards were part of it and I also didn't quite understand the full situation going on down at the site. I was attempting to clear things up. Thanks for clearing it up all now.;)

big news guys!! was chatting to project manager of greencliff today and i asked him about construction schedule of Regent Place, so i can update our city model with colours ect. I specifically asked him if i should spray our model all red which included podium, kent st tower and George st tower. he said spray the whole bloody thing red!! its full steam ahead in 4 weeks!!
So thats great news! I thought it was just podium and Frazier suites but he has confirmed the large tower (Lumiere) will also commence!!
:guns1:

Originally posted by CULWULLA
big news guys!! was chatting to project manager of greencliff today and i asked him about construction schedule of Regent Place, so i can update our city model with colours ect. I specifically asked him if i should spray our model all red which included podium, kent st tower and George st tower. he said spray the whole bloody thing red!! its full steam ahead in 4 weeks!!
So thats great news! I thought it was just podium and Frazier suites but he has confirmed the large tower (Lumiere) will also commence!!
:guns1:

Excellent! Sounds like great news Cul, but like anyone who's relied on projected construction start dates in the past, I'm only gonna be tentatively excited at the moment! ;)

But if it all really does get underway in 4 weeks, then I'll be the first one to crack open the champers! :)

Wow, Lumiere will start too! :cool: :cool:

Let there be more light in the City!! :D

I wanna see Greencliff and Meriton competing against each other to build their new George St towers faster! :guns1:

In this case quality is what really matters - George St cinemas will be bounded by superb new towers designed by two best architects in Australia and the UK! It was really worth waiting for! :cheers:

Oh this is good. Kent Street carpark will provide a perfect spot for photos of the foundations.

Originally posted by AltiusAltiusAltius
Yeah, it's a shame....This great tower deserves some architectural feature on the top....But I am still very happy this project is now very close to its construction stage! It's been a long and agonising wait since the demolition of the good old Regent Theatre....Genting, Meriton and Grocon have failed but Greencliff will deliver! :colgate: Yes, that beautiful old Regent owned by the Fink Family was pulled down during the night to avoid caring people's daytime protests. How sleazy was that? Finks!

...and N. Foster & Associates will also deliver for sure.

It's (almost...finnnnnnn-ster?????) unaminous. Good news about the commencement of these stunners-in-the-making. Hoorah!

*Does a jolly jig around the lounge room*

Originally posted by AltiusAltiusAltius
I wanna see Greencliff and Meriton competing against each other to build their new George St towers faster! :guns1:


Wow...good point AAA! I didn't think about that, but considering that Meriton are still excavating for their building, and the Greencliff site is already excavated, the two towers will be starting at about the same construction stage, and hence will rise at the same time! That will be amazing! :D

Hope to be joining the unanimous bunch on the good-news train soon! ;)

LOL finn. The Soul Train is now boarding.

Hrrmmmmm, Greencliff vs Meriton:

_________http://www.shillpages.com/movies/clashofthetitans1981dvd.gif

yeah, two x 150m towers rising within spitting distance from each other! A seidler & Foster project rising together! :guns1:
Also the LARGE Hoyts site nestled in between is also allowed a 150m tower. So this area come 2010 will be WALL STREET!

the amount of skyscrapers within a few city blocks is amazing!
Rialto,Energy OZ,Waterbaord,HSBC,Century tower,Princeton,telstra Plaza,Lumiere,MBF,Frazier Suites,meriton tower,World Tower,Latitude,Summit ect ect..:cheers:
CC- another great vantage point to watch Lumiere grow will be roof of THH!:cool:

Originally posted by Muse
Yes, that beautiful old Regent owned by the Fink Family was pulled down during the night to avoid caring people's daytime protests. How sleazy was that? Finks!

...and N. Foster & Associates will also deliver for sure.

It's (almost...finnnnnnn-ster?????) unaminous. Good news about the commencement of these stunners-in-the-making. Hoorah!

*Does a jolly jig around the lounge room*

LOL, in the words of BIG KEV himself, "I'M EXCITED!" This is brilliant news about the larger tower rising! I can't believe it's all about to start. Bring it on! :guns1:

But if it all really does get underway in 4 weeks, then I'll be the first one to crack open the champers! :) [/B]

Hear here!!! We'll be doing the same over here too, as long as you all let me know ;) I can't believe I haven't posted on this one yet, it is most certainly the most exciting yet-to-begin project in Sydney..... and that's with a lot of stiff n' good competition.

Cheers

I'm excited too guys ;)

It's starting to build up on site as the temporary shop fronts which hung over the site for the past four years on the George St side are demolished. meanwhile those billboards have begun appearing on the Bathurst St side.

Muse - I'm noww clear about the boarding up of the shops on the George St side

There was an article and a new street level render (looking up) in today's Sunday paper - anyone see it?

Originally posted by gazmo
There was an article and a new street level render (looking up) in today's Sunday paper - anyone see it?

Yeah, I saw it - there was a good picture of the original "regent Theatre", but the rendering of the new development was wrong! It was actually an old proposal for the site, which has now been superseded by Foster's design.

Really? I thought the render looked too "blue" to be the current Foster design.

Originally posted by finn
Yeah, I saw it - there was a good picture of the original "regent Theatre", but the rendering of the new development was wrong! It was actually an old proposal for the site, which has now been superseded by Foster's design.

Originally posted by gazmo
There was an article and a new street level render (looking up) in today's Sunday paper - anyone see it?

Yeah - it was in the Sun Herald. It summarises the project quite well. The rendering did look a bit strange when I saw but I thought it was still Fosters design. Thanks for the correction Finn.

This is good news
was scared they might be delay if only one got built
Now this wont be a factor

Originally posted by Trances
This is good news
was scared they might be delay if only one got built
Now this wont be a factor
I spoke to Greencliffs project manager for Regent place 2 weeks ago and its starting anyday now!
he assured me they will get stuck into it and have podium completed by necxt year. e also said the shorter tower will be built same time as larger one! And the best thing is the hole is already dug!!:D
lights, camera, action! or should i say- concrete, crane, action!:guns1:

Originally posted by finn
Yeah, I saw it - there was a good picture of the original "regent Theatre", but the rendering of the new development was wrong! It was actually an old proposal for the site, which has now been superseded by Foster's design.

Yeah, that's what I thought when I saw the rendering. Makes you wonder how much they care to research when they put these articles together. Ah well, it is the Sun Herald. I think all the serious editors and writers go home on the weekend and they get student writers to come in...

anyway, I've scanned the article, so if you want to read it go here (http://mywebpage.netscape.com/plebon82/CITY/101bathurstSMHarticle.jpg)

I'm also delighted to hear the news that Greencliff are keen to start and that BOTH towers will be built at once! AWESOME! The construction of this site will be seen my thousands of people each day and it's in such a prominant location. I'm sure Cul will be having many a lunchtime sitting just outside Town Hall watching the construction going on...

what ?papers getting a story wrong? thats a first!lol
yeah i reckon the town hall house roof will superb place to take piccies, also Kent st carpark roof!

chatted to Greencliffs today and the construction on Regent Place is scheduled to commence after Easter or April 13ish.
The showroom is to be built on site this month.

It's good they didn't say April 1st lol...RT site has beem doomed for too long lol :D

I received a stunning Regent Place brochure from Greencliff this week featuring great renderings of RP and many other Foster projects....They asked me to register my interest on the project Website etc....And yeah they mentioned that Lumiere construction would commence shortly :cool:

ss.com says that the taller one isn't starting until 2007. Then again it also says that KENS wasn't starting until 2005. So maybe 2006 then.

Originally posted by climbing_crane
ss.com says that the taller one isn't starting until 2007. Then again it also says that KENS wasn't starting until 2005. So maybe 2006 then.
ss.com says both start in 2004 and completed 2005.
kens also indicates start in 2003 and completed 2005.
where did you see 2007? and kens starting in 2005?
:?

Originally posted by AltiusAltiusAltius
It's good they didn't say April 1st lol...RT site has beem doomed for too long lol :D

I received a stunning Regent Place brochure from Greencliff this week featuring great renderings of RP and many other Foster projects....They asked me to register my interest on the project Website etc....And yeah they mentioned that Lumiere construction would commence shortly :cool:

It sounds really cool, but i don't get why every reference to Lumiere that I've read has given the completion date as 2008!!! That is a bloody long time for a tower - almost a year longer than World Tower took!

big article in todays Australian - heres a short from it>>
very interesting reading! the head architect from fosters, says that this will look like a gleaming glass skyscraper more than a residential bldg with balconies.


Architect aims for more class on glass skyline



Publication : Australian Section : Property Page : 47

A profile of Gerald Evenden. Foster and Partners architect, Gerald Evenden, is project director for the twin residential towers that will be built on the old Regent theatre site opposite Town Hall. The towers, to be called Lumiere at Regent Place, will have a facade more like a gleaming office tower than a 'crumbly egg-crate facade' of a residential tower, as it is more appropriate for the heart of the city. The architects brief was to create a building with plenty of light and fresh air. The apartments will have north-south views with the living areas on the edge of a central bedroom. Me Evenden says Sydney's planning rules are quite strict place a lot of demands on architects.

Says construction is 2005. I figure this is when construction ends. When you go in the under construction or approved area just sit your cursor on a building without clicking anything.

Originally posted by climbing_crane
Says construction is 2005. I figure this is when construction ends. When you go in the under construction or approved area just sit your cursor on a building without clicking anything.
yeah isnt it great! its a new thing ss.com have done! it shows tiny pic aswell as height info ect.
In todays paper they sat 2007 is when whole complex will be complete. My estimate is early 2006!

Lumiere looking down from Centrepoint.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/pd400f8592eddfbd1267b8547ab50019c/f94f62ca.jpg

Originally posted by climbing_crane
Lumiere looking down from Centrepoint.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid108/pd400f8592eddfbd1267b8547ab50019c/f94f62ca.jpg

the good news is the hole is already there, so we dont have to go down before we go up (like Meriton tower, which is taking soooooooooooo long).

took this pic early in the week. we have ACTION!!
the scaffolders are there preparing site for commencment n Easter

http://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2004/03/256253.jpg

Wow, excitement!!!!!!!!! :D Thank goodness we dont have to wait for them to dig and shore up the excavations! Otherwise we'd have another bloody Meriton Tower on our hands and have to wait forever for some action!!! :wallbash: ;)

Wow, excitement!!!!!!!!! :D Thank goodness we dont have to wait for them to dig and shore up the excavations! Otherwise we'd have another bloody Meriton Tower on our hands and have to wait forever for some action!!! :wallbash: ;)Or even worse, another Aspect.....and even worse than that, another damn The Common! :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

On the George Street side, there is now also a huge smooth frontage for the whole project that sits flush with the George St Cinemas' entrance on one side, and KFC on the other. Rather impressive advertising.

I have a feeling they might be preparing a big sales office too, hopefully with models ;). This being where the old Star Cruise Centre stores were.

Or even worse, another Aspect.....and even worse than that, another damn The Common! :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

On the George Street side, there is now also a huge smooth frontage for the whole project that sits flush with the George St Cinemas' entrance on one side, and KFC on the other. Rather impressive advertising.

I have a feeling they might be preparing a big sales office too, hopefully with models ;). This being where the old Star Cruise Centre stores were.
affirmative! the sales chick told me the sales office will be completed just after Easter with pix and models ect on george st entrance. The crane ect will turn up soon after then the model at council will go code RED !!as in UC!! yeah

Damn, we should have some sort of "Painting Red" ceremony. This is the last of the BIG holes of Sydney to be filled. And yes, I walked past the George St., sales office today and it's very schmick! NICE!

Awesome news about the crane. Can't wait for 18 months to be standing outside the cinemas and seeing 2 pretty big towers U/C. Awesome.

Looks like more discount bookshops for Sydney!

Looks like more discount bookshops for Sydney!
wtf?
chin up big fella!

Yeah I know. But we've been talking about these for years and it's been painfully freakin' slow. I think I'm burnt out. :badnews:

LOL. Betta get used to it as it is the way the whole process is. Just don't jump Tall-y!! Don't to it for the love of God!

Just think Aspect. Just think Cove or Loabana (back then) getting out of their gaping holes. Just think The Common.

If you think about those projects, ever since it was decided that Greencliff would go with the Foster & Partners' design and it was approved by council, this has been relatively smooth and easy going by comparison.

Dunno about seeing more discount bookstores on the site. I don't think the Regent Place display centre would want tacky looking stores next to its glamourous display room ;) .

Anyway, let's break out the champers when a crane base (or bases) and workmen looking like ants busily plying along down that huge hole start to appear :cheers1:

Looks like more discount bookshops for Sydney!

lol, The wait is over now. Rejoice and be glad now.

It's going to feel a bit weird to see something on that site after being idle virtually all my life but in the long run it will actually be better with it as there will be a nice big tower to look at and injecting some life into the entertainment strip.

lol, The wait is over now. Rejoice and be glad now.

It's going to feel a bit weird to see something on that site after being idle virtually all my life but in the long run it will actually be better with a nice big tower to look at and injecting some life into the entertainment strip.

lol

Gee, there's suddenly a lot of LOL'ing going on. Us diehards must be so happy this one is finally happening.

lol

http://www.wattacroc.com/smiles/laughing.gif
sorry

I heard this was starting after easter. Yay.

I've spoken with an insider closely involved in the project and the construction start date is Tuesday 4th May

Also, only the short tower will be built for the moment, while they try to sell the apartments in the biggie.