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coth
November 22nd, 2005, 02:52 PM
This saturday I was on construction site.

Here is temporary billboard about preparation works. Didn't made shots from inside the plot. But there is technics and building materials for building wall in ground. Partially in some place there is clearly visible shape of future pit.

http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/1966-1/PICT0631.jpg






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Video.

high quality (14mb)
http://dva3.ru/pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/mmdc_divx600.avi

low quality (5mb)
http://dva3.ru/pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/mmdc_divx200.avi


few screenshots

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/fin.jpg

http://dva3.ru///pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/03.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/05.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/08.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/09.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/11.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/14.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/15.jpg

BMXican
November 22nd, 2005, 03:40 PM
any renderings? sounds exciting

coth
November 22nd, 2005, 04:11 PM
four red glassy towers on this model
http://*******************/imgs/city/p1010053.jpg

Urban Dave
November 22nd, 2005, 04:17 PM
^^ Will be one of the most exiting clusters in Europe!

BMXican
November 22nd, 2005, 09:45 PM
but technically this red complex is just one tower. the height is impressive though.

coth
November 22nd, 2005, 10:23 PM
technically it is four towers with skybridges between towers.

Urban Dave
November 22nd, 2005, 10:49 PM
Sorry, but I only see one tower there.

coth
November 22nd, 2005, 11:07 PM
another facing version
here those 4 towers clearly visible
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/650/2635ibccolors.jpg

BMXican
November 22nd, 2005, 11:57 PM
the rendering seems to be old. the model shows a different version with one tower.

Dr. Dubai
November 23rd, 2005, 12:00 AM
Very nice project. IMO it's only one tower btw.

The Moscow cluster will become gorgeous, maybe the most beautiful of Europe, we'll see. I think most of the concurention will come from Istanbul where Dubai is going to invest some money in skyscrapers.

coth
November 23rd, 2005, 12:14 AM
the rendering seems to be old. the model shows a different version with one tower.
no. towers is not different. different only facing and position of skybridges.

this is form conception
http://foto.rambler.ru/photos/a/l/aleksey-kuznetsow/3/meria/meria.jpg

Pedrillo
November 23rd, 2005, 12:39 AM
no. towers is not different. different only facing and position of skybridges.

this is form conception
http://foto.rambler.ru/photos/a/l/aleksey-kuznetsow/3/meria/meria.jpg


:eek2:

Spearman
November 23rd, 2005, 12:41 AM
Gah! I really like what I see. How many of the buildings rendered is built/uc?

Jose Luis
November 23rd, 2005, 02:06 AM
The tallest is the best, simple and amazing design. i cant wait to see that u/c

Trances
November 23rd, 2005, 02:27 AM
I always thought it was one but understand more clearly now

coth
November 23rd, 2005, 02:44 AM
So.

Billboard says:
Construction of complex of administrative buildings of executive and legislative powers of City of Moscow in the MIBC "Moscow-City"
(preparation works)
begin: october 2005
completion: march 2006

i have no clue what they mean under preparation, but as i said there is technics and building materials for building wall in ground. so may be it mean cleaning the plot and making wall in ground, which seems already begun. i doubt they will also dig such big pit until march.

coth
January 29th, 2006, 06:24 PM
today. took myself.

http://*******************/gallery/d/2226-1/PICT0672.jpg

http://*******************/gallery/d/2229-1/PICT0674.jpg

Gismo
January 29th, 2006, 07:12 PM
this skyscraper ist simply WOW

Chad
January 29th, 2006, 08:03 PM
Damn!!, Maybe it isnt one of the best design..but the scale is truely impressive!

dubaiflo
January 30th, 2006, 12:20 AM
amazing project, does this count as 4 single towers or one tower at 307m?

Reptilikus
January 30th, 2006, 02:42 PM
All right then.
Let's talk skyscrapers.
I well known that skyscrapers are very uneconomically. It much cheaper to build low-rise, and you get much more space out of it. A great part of the space in skyscrapers are offen used for lift shafts and staircases. Then why are skyscrapers build? Think of The Chrysler building and The Empire State building. The reason they are so tall is because the they compete of wich one would be the tallest!
Look at Taipai 101. Is it build because of lack of areal? No
And what about Burj Dubai? Have the run out of construction sites? No
They just wanna be the tallest!
And that fine with me. As long as it isn't the taxpayers money that is used for the purpose.

www.sercan.de
January 30th, 2006, 02:57 PM
only some projects are so ^^^
But moscow need office area

coth
January 30th, 2006, 02:57 PM
how about other thousands of skyscrapers around the world. they don't claim to be tallest. those just skyscrapers.

As for City Hall and City Duma. I repeat once again for you. It is much more better for organisation 4 skyscrapers than hundreds of lowrise buildings spreaded around big city.

crazyevildude
January 30th, 2006, 03:38 PM
All right then.
Let's talk skyscrapers.
I well known that skyscrapers are very uneconomically. It much cheaper to build low-rise, and you get much more space out of it. A great part of the space in skyscrapers are offen used for lift shafts and staircases. Then why are skyscrapers build? Think of The Chrysler building and The Empire State building. The reason they are so tall is because the they compete of wich one would be the tallest!
Look at Taipai 101. Is it build because of lack of areal? No
And what about Burj Dubai? Have the run out of construction sites? No
They just wanna be the tallest!
And that fine with me. As long as it isn't the taxpayers money that is used for the purpose.

Arn't skyscrapers usually commericial projects anyway?
And even if a government pays for them it would be for the economic benefits that they will bring which will (if managed correctly) help everyone in the country alot more in the long term. It is incredibly short sighted to only think about spending money where it is most needed at that present time. A reactionary economy will not work. It is better to plan long term projects that will help the growth and stability of a country. This should result in a higher standard of life for everyone.
The problem with capitlism is that that so often isn't done. Those who can take the economic benefits for themselves and leave everyone else how they are. But the solution to that is to allow the economic benefits of major developments to be spread out. Not to stop all economic developments so you can give the money to the poorest. That will simply not work.

And also skyscrapers have huge commerical value, the tallest might be built for the title, just as the most extravagent looking are designed to get attention aswell. But there is nothing wrong with that. A worlds tallest building will bring in tourists who will spend money in the local economy, no building is built just for the sheer fun of it, that is not how the world works.

Also bare in mind that highrise developments are far more friendly to the enviroment. They help reduce urban sprawl which is tremedously damaging to animals habitats. They reduce the amount of transport people need as they live in a more tight area, meaning less commuting - and hence less pollution. The buildings themselves are also more enviromentally friendly. With recent technologies designed to minimise heat loss and heat gain(depending on climate) using rain water, generating their own power, Using excess heat from one area of a building to heat others is also comeing into reality now.

I'm not a big fan of the way the capitalist model is implemented. But economic growth is important for everyone, and done managed correctly can bring enourmous benefits to everyone in a society.

Besides why did you join a Skyscraper forum when you hate skyscrapers :sleepy:

engiNerd
January 30th, 2006, 08:30 PM
Everything crazyevildude said above is true. Sprawl is a bad option. And many cities build large buildings to consolidate all of their departments into one building. It ends up being cheaper in the end usually for the city. So this is probably cheaper to build one building and sell off all the others than to maintain what is existing.

Muse
January 30th, 2006, 11:49 PM
Will be one of the most exiting clusters in Europe!^^ So true!! It will join London's Canary Wharf, Paris' La Defence area, and Warsaw's new booming central business district as an exciting scraper cluster in Europe. Constructing a cluster of talls in a specific area of older cities saves a lot of the beautiful older structures because if the scrapers were dispersed throughout the city, a lot of nicer historic buildings may disappear.

City Hall & City Duma will join the other high-tech buildings in the area, some already under construction such as The Complex Federation Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=86772), Plot 12 - International Business Centre (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=139883&page=1&pp=20), the very funky City of Capitals; Moscow & St Petersburg Towers (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=213958) and Naberezhnaya Tower C & the already built Naberezhnaya Towers A & B (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=213947).

The proposed 648m/2,126ft Russia Tower Pt 1 (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=102051)__&__Russia Tower Pt 2 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=253271) if/when built in the same area will be the crowning glory.

Loving the design of City Hall & City Duma and the huge atrium-esque wintergarden floors that join the 4 towers together as skybridges; it will be just amazing - truly a beautiful, sensible and logical design.

These towers will be a real showcase and it's best if a city has it offices of the contolling government centralised in a new high-tech building; it makes pure sense economically as it saves money for the city in the longer-term as the city government would currently have its offices spread out in different locations.

***BTW Who is the architect of City Hall & City Duma? Anyone know? coth? :)

coth
January 31st, 2006, 01:21 AM
The original design has been made by Mikhail Kazakov, Anton Nagavitsin and Nodar Kancheli.
It won 1th place in contest out of 142 in 2002. Orginally planned 200 meters tall on plots 2-3.
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/2690/4518pu.jpg

Muse
January 31st, 2006, 05:09 AM
Thanks coth :okay:

coth
February 28th, 2006, 10:16 PM
Video.

high quality (14mb)
http://dva3.ru/pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/mmdc_divx600.avi

low quality (5mb)
http://dva3.ru/pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/mmdc_divx200.avi


few screenshots

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/fin.jpg

http://dva3.ru///pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/03.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/05.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/08.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/09.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/11.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/14.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/15.jpg



24 february 2006 by Ysh.
most of work going to left of this picture. they digging pit.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5347/duma3ag.jpg

Peter The Great
February 28th, 2006, 10:46 PM
Is it going to be red? :|

coth
February 28th, 2006, 10:53 PM
of course. that's all charm there is in red. it's simply beautiful.

NEWWORLD
February 28th, 2006, 11:01 PM
Amazing project this is going to look great when they complete it.

davidwei01
February 28th, 2006, 11:59 PM
Amazing! not expecting Moscow is so beautiful. Will definitely like to visit Moscow some time!

weird
March 1st, 2006, 01:35 AM
Roof top, overview, looks like a flower :uh:. It's very original the red color.

@coth: This is just one tower. Towers are totally linked at the top!! And at the bottom, they have lots of brigdes. Definitely, one.

coth
March 1st, 2006, 01:55 AM
at top there is 8 story huge skybridge that covers all space space between towers.

Chad
March 1st, 2006, 01:58 AM
I'm really wondering what it's gonna turn out like. Whats that red? glass?

guidodesign
March 1st, 2006, 04:38 AM
like it!!

ReddAlert
March 1st, 2006, 05:34 AM
I really like it, the red of course puts it over the top. A fitting color for the captiol of Russia!

btw...the building reminds me of Milwaukees tallest skyscraper in a way...well not the color..

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5089/0719828ga.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Oriolus
March 1st, 2006, 06:10 AM
OMG! - it wont actually be THAT red will it? That said I hope it is cause it's just so insane - I mean a bright red skyscraper, who does that? As long as it doesn't end up looking tacky, I think it'll be quite an icon for Moscow.

The last construction update - I take it that's Federation Tower in the background? Can't wait for it this thing to rise, or even more so for the first glass to go up.

crazyevildude
March 1st, 2006, 01:54 PM
^ Isn't there a bright red skyscraper in Chicago? I seem to remember it looks alright.

PYCb
March 1st, 2006, 03:07 PM
OMG! - it wont actually be THAT red will it? That said I hope it is cause it's just so insane - I mean a bright red skyscraper, who does that? As long as it doesn't end up looking tacky, I think it'll be quite an icon for Moscow.

The last construction update - I take it that's Federation Tower in the background? Can't wait for it this thing to rise, or even more so for the first glass to go up.
Why not?
Matches with the Kremlin

Oriolus
March 2nd, 2006, 07:02 AM
^ Isn't there a bright red skyscraper in Chicago? I seem to remember it looks alright.Yeh, the 183m CNA Plaza (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=117052). It's looks good.

http://www.aviewoncities.com/img/chicago/kveus1452b.jpg

Gherkin
March 2nd, 2006, 11:08 AM
I remember a 600ft bright yellow skyscraper proposed for London a few years back... can't wait until the red cladding on this one gets built though!

coth
March 2nd, 2006, 12:38 PM
red is official color of moscow.

since 1781 official coat of arms and flag of moscow is a horseman, st george, killing dragon, on red background
but appeared it in XIV century

http://mos.ru/cgi-bin/prn_img?vid=2&unom=3510&vel=4

http://mos.ru/cgi-bin/prn_img?vid=2&unom=3509&vel=4

Gerard
March 2nd, 2006, 01:13 PM
Red can be nice. You do not see it that much but i think its ok.

Rotterdam is getting its own 'not so tall' red building. (127 metres)

http://207.44.228.232/images/B03/3692.jpg

http://207.44.228.232/images/B03/3538.jpg

For Moscow again this is a super project. Looks fantastic.

simms3
March 2nd, 2006, 11:17 PM
WOW! I love that whole "city" that Moscow is building and especially that red tower as it has a kind of unique design to it, as well as the above building in Rotterdam-is that residential because it seems to have a lot of floors for only 127 meters? By the way, is it just me or does one of the buildings in the Moscow tower area look like the Williams Tower in Houston?

Bikes
March 2nd, 2006, 11:51 PM
Love this project!

Albaniangigi
March 3rd, 2006, 02:55 AM
wow the project above is beautiful, especially that building that overlaps the one beneath it...and the big gap on the top with trees and things looks cool

ZimasterX
March 3rd, 2006, 03:44 AM
New renders look awsome! It really has that uniqueness now that its in red. You really don't get to see many buildings of that sort.

seb5990
March 3rd, 2006, 07:53 AM
looks like garbage IMO

Seb
March 3rd, 2006, 04:39 PM
Nice building for Moscow. I think the one in Rotterdam would look even better if the red colums were staight.

Dr. Dubai
March 3rd, 2006, 09:05 PM
Really strange but awesome building:)

SkyLerm
March 3rd, 2006, 09:12 PM
First time I saw the buiding I thought it was a huge tower but it's clearly visible that there are four towers in the complex :yes:

Urban Dave
March 3rd, 2006, 09:33 PM
:drool::drool: It's so lovely!

Eric Offereins
March 5th, 2006, 04:25 PM
WOW! I love that whole "city" that Moscow is building and especially that red tower as it has a kind of unique design to it, as well as the above building in Rotterdam-is that residential because it seems to have a lot of floors for only 127 meters? By the way, is it just me or does one of the buildings in the Moscow tower area look like the Williams Tower in Houston?

Yes, the Rotterdam tower will be residential.

Indica
March 7th, 2006, 02:06 AM
this is BY FAR, one of my favorites!!! ;)

Manu84
March 7th, 2006, 02:14 AM
wuahh

7 World Trade
March 7th, 2006, 07:41 AM
not bad of a design now that i got to see some detailed image. i just the red won't be so intense that u'd end up seeing green everywhere after gazing at this tower for a long time.

Mosaic
March 8th, 2006, 09:28 AM
very nice project.

coth
March 16th, 2006, 11:57 PM
16 march by bolik

http://*******************/gallery/d/2659-1/mosgor_1.jpg
http://*******************/gallery/d/2663-1/mosgor_2.jpg
http://*******************/gallery/d/2665-1/mosgor_3.jpg

Skyman
March 17th, 2006, 01:18 AM
Thanks guys for the new pix, keep us posted

Chad
March 17th, 2006, 12:49 PM
another facing version
here those 4 towers clearly visible
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/650/2635ibccolors.jpg


What is No.4?

coth
April 20th, 2006, 12:46 PM
19 april 2006 by sturman

pit completed by about 25%, almost half to depth and half to width

http://www.ljplus.ru/img/s/t/sturman/gd_152.jpg

http://www.ljplus.ru/img/s/t/sturman/gd_153.jpg

http://www.ljplus.ru/img/s/t/sturman/gd_154.jpg

Mosaic
April 20th, 2006, 05:21 PM
very nice updates, thanks.

coth
May 4th, 2006, 01:11 AM
3 may 2006 by bolik

http://*******************/gallery/d/3754-1/ibc_30.jpg

http://*******************/gallery/d/3764-1/ibc_35.jpg

Skyman
May 4th, 2006, 03:27 PM
Nice view of the construction site, now it's easy to understand what happens on it

coth
June 16th, 2006, 08:28 PM
16 june 2006 by Ysh

City Hall and City Duma, and Mercury City Tower pit

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8092/duma14ml.jpg

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7470/duma20tp.jpg

ZZ-II
June 17th, 2006, 08:09 PM
Wow, great pics. Thank you!!!

sturman
June 18th, 2006, 01:29 AM
site pano:

http://sturman.ometro.net/journ/ssc/2006_06_17_city/gd_052.jpg

http://sturman.ometro.net/journ/ssc/2006_06_17_city/gd_054.jpg

http://sturman.ometro.net/journ/ssc/2006_06_17_city/gd_088.jpg

coth
July 24th, 2006, 03:13 PM
22 july by me

http://*******************/gallery/d/4978-1/PICT2482.jpg

http://*******************/gallery/d/4980-1/PICT2483.jpg

CULWULLA
July 25th, 2006, 12:56 AM
great updates.
cheers

Mo Rush
July 25th, 2006, 12:59 AM
great pics...awesome progress.

KVentz
July 26th, 2006, 05:17 AM
But, here is some facts. Today 'krasniy' means 'red' but long ago 'krasniy' meaned 'beautiful' and today 'krasiviy' (even sounds similar!) means 'beautiful'. The Red square and red walls of the Kremlin were not built by communists, they are much much older. And the shape of the City Hall tower repeats the shape of the tooth of the Kremlin wall that looks like "M" spell.

So, don't worry about the color: latest rumors said the colour will be able to be changed from very very light red to strong red according to weather and/or time of a day.

Oh, and something else. Moscow goverment desided to involve the investors into this project and share some part of the building. So no more flames about wasting city budjet money.

P.S.: No one part of IBC was or will built on Russian state budjet money. No one at all. IBC development was started many years before Putin became a president (some people in SSC said that Putin came, desided to rebuild an empire and that's why he is building IBC. Blah blah blah). So stop crying about (nonexistent!) hungry children suffering because state spends its money on expensive IBC. It is a commercial project developing by investors.

ZZ-II
July 26th, 2006, 05:18 PM
nice updates, thank you

sturman
August 5th, 2006, 05:32 PM
http://sturman.ometro.net/journ/ssc/2006_08_04_city/duma_01.jpg

ZZ-II
October 16th, 2006, 09:33 PM
updates?

Brad
October 16th, 2006, 09:38 PM
updates?Please, remind in spring :)

ZZ-II
October 16th, 2006, 09:54 PM
ok :)

staff
October 17th, 2006, 03:44 AM
I'm excited about this tower, looks very intriguing!

igor
October 24th, 2006, 08:22 PM
24/10/06

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/627/img1314pt1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ZZ-II
October 24th, 2006, 10:38 PM
wow, what a big hole!! UC on emporis now?

Peloso
October 25th, 2006, 12:45 AM
24/10/06
(Nighttime Moscow City)
This qualifies for the "mystery darkness construction" award. Very romantic though! :|

ROYU
October 25th, 2006, 01:06 AM
This zone will be impressive when completition. Nice updates.

iliamo
October 26th, 2006, 06:53 AM
oooh, interesting! its...um... red!

KVentz
October 26th, 2006, 07:21 AM
oooh, interesting! its...um... red!
I don't think it will be red all the time. Just at night maybe: red color is an illumination.

igor
November 7th, 2006, 07:30 AM
06/11/06
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/3470/img1764xx5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3595/img1766vx6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/518/img1767et5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

colemonkee
November 7th, 2006, 08:01 AM
That pit is huge.

Pas
November 7th, 2006, 09:01 AM
I like this kind of futuristic design (abstract M shape as well..)
will this be the tallest city hall building in the world..?

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ani/mmdc/fin.jpg

ZZ-II
November 7th, 2006, 11:19 AM
Can anyone chance the status on emporis from Approved to Under Construction?

eng_kheffa
November 7th, 2006, 12:02 PM
SOO DEEEEEEEEEEP !!!!

coth
November 7th, 2006, 12:37 PM
it's a pit for 5 supertalls. 4 city hall towers and mercury city tower.

oliver999
November 7th, 2006, 12:52 PM
red house! cool.
but if this city hall built in china, people will be very angry, because they said there are so many poor people in low living standard, how can goverment build such a luxuary buildding???!!!!

Brad
November 7th, 2006, 12:59 PM
red house! cool.
but if this city hall built in china, people will be very angry, because they said there are so many poor people in low living standard, how can goverment build such a luxuary buildding???!!!!this skyscraper won't cost anything to the Moscow goverment. It consists of 4 towers. Moscow will get 2 of them absolutely free.

RSG
November 7th, 2006, 01:08 PM
The concept is ok but I hope they do not finish it in red. It would look stupid.

They should also stop spending money on building the ISS. Our world leaders should fix the planet we are on and it's people before exploring for another.

ZZ-II
November 7th, 2006, 01:12 PM
i don't think the tower will be red.

marax0
November 7th, 2006, 01:27 PM
An oposition to White House? :) Still cold war? "D

amazing...

And what about dates? Start/ FInish ?
i dont know russian :(
Cant read your alphabet.

coth
November 7th, 2006, 01:45 PM
red and white are traditional colors in moscow. yellow is a bit modern - from imperial times.
in old russian red was meant beautiful - red square correct translation is beauty square.

alphabet is not russian - it is cyrillics.

ZZ-II
November 7th, 2006, 08:10 PM
hmm...a yellow supertall......maybe looking really nice.

KVentz
November 7th, 2006, 09:00 PM
red house! cool.
The color can be changed. I beleive the native color of the building will be more traditional but can be changed with illumination.

but if this city hall built in china, people will be very angry, because they said there are so many poor people in low living standard, how can goverment build such a luxuary buildding???!!!!
Oh yes, you are right and city government thinks the same way. This City Hall will consist of four interconnected towers. The construction of all complex (exept preparing stage which is in process now) will be financed by an investor. After construction investor will take 2 towers of the complex and Moscow government - another 2 ones free for the city budget.

KVentz
November 7th, 2006, 09:05 PM
Cant read your alphabet.
It's quite simple, here is a key (http://skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=10359906&postcount=21).

Brad
November 7th, 2006, 09:11 PM
Could you be so kind and answer?The situation is not clear yet and quite not common. The Moscow goverment finances the digging of the pit (to speed up the whole process of the construction)
The investor of the construction itself is not known yet :) and is beeing looked for (Remember, Moscow goverment wants the half)
That's why nobody dares to say when it will be built :)

marax0
November 7th, 2006, 11:23 PM
Than you very much :)

but what about data on information board ?
Shouldnt it be there?

Brad
November 7th, 2006, 11:43 PM
but what about data on information board ?
Shouldnt it be there?I was there a month ago. The information of the board was about the preliminary (or smth like that) works - August, 2006.
They say, it will be built in 2008.

coth
November 7th, 2006, 11:58 PM
preparation works includes full underground part as i remember - foundation + underground floors.

philip
November 8th, 2006, 03:50 AM
All those buildings look very unique, are they designed by Russian architects?

The RED buildings looks huge !!

KVentz
November 8th, 2006, 06:54 AM
All those buildings look very unique, are they designed by Russian architects?
Most buildings are designed by foreign or with participation of foreign architects.

Sergei
November 8th, 2006, 07:09 AM
I love the M building! Looks awesome. I hope it looks as good when/if it gets done.

jmancuso
November 14th, 2006, 02:55 PM
if this thing is 4 buildings, how will they be used?

what's the difference between the city hall and the city duma? assuming each gets a tower, who will occupy the remaining two?

coth
November 14th, 2006, 03:25 PM
two towers will get moscow executive and legislative powers and two other towers will get an investor.

Brad
January 27th, 2007, 07:00 PM
Обещанные сваи и сваезабивалки:

http://sturman.ometro.net/journ/ssc/27_01_2007/duma_051.jpg

http://sturman.ometro.net/journ/ssc/27_01_2007/duma_052.jpg

http://sturman.ometro.net/journ/ssc/27_01_2007/duma.jpg
побольше (http://sturman.ometro.net/journ/ssc/27_01_2007/duma_b.jpg)...

ZZ-II
January 27th, 2007, 07:57 PM
great update.

coth
January 27th, 2007, 09:42 PM
legend to plots made by sturman

blue - boulevard between Federation Tower and Mercury City Tower
green - mercury city tower plot
red - city hall and city duma plot
http://sturman.ometro.net/journ/ssc/27_01_2007/plots.jpg

Ginza
January 28th, 2007, 03:09 AM
does anyone have a pic that shows Moscow when all the edifices are completed

gunslinger
January 28th, 2007, 04:13 AM
Ginza, something like this:

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9450/city20facadecitywg4.jpg

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/15/moscowcityplaza1jn6.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g231/mrfusion1/MCT.jpg

el_bebiduncho
January 28th, 2007, 11:41 PM
Wow! Moscow will have an amazing skyline. Very good projects! ;)

Muse
January 29th, 2007, 04:23 AM
What is that whole area called, in Russian and its English translation? (Like London has Docklands, Paris La Defense etc).

coth
January 29th, 2007, 04:30 AM
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=297180

Muse
January 29th, 2007, 04:35 AM
OK, thanks. What would you say in Russian and the way to say it in English?

Skyman
January 29th, 2007, 06:26 AM
OK, thanks. What would you say in Russian and the way to say it in English?

"Moscow-City"- short and clear

xAKxRUSx
January 29th, 2007, 06:49 AM
^^ Actually, thats just the "temporary" name. It's probably going to have a different name.

But yea, Moscow International Business Center or Moscow-City for now.

coth
January 29th, 2007, 10:19 AM
oficially it is Moscow International Business Center "Moscow City".
Московский Международный Деловой Центр "Москва-Сити"

coth
February 20th, 2007, 03:39 PM
20 feb 2007 by participant

East Federation Tower, Mercury City tower, City Hall and City Duma, and Four Season mall

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4122/044eh0.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4218/045lx1.jpg

ZZ-II
February 20th, 2007, 04:33 PM
thank you very much for posting the update coth :)

Mosaic
February 20th, 2007, 06:37 PM
The site is very hugh!!

ZZ-II
February 20th, 2007, 06:57 PM
because the boulevard between Federation Tower and Mercury City Tower mercury city tower, and the city hall and city duma are going to be build in that one hole :)

billyandmandy
February 20th, 2007, 11:44 PM
what an enormous mall that is going to be...

hades
February 21st, 2007, 05:14 AM
wow!!!!!!! a big big hole, its hugh, its a mix between old construccion and the new one, a new and beautiful face for the capital.

Congratulations!!!!

Gamma-Hamster
March 3rd, 2007, 07:47 PM
Posted by windstride in russian section:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8708/dsc050942fl8.jpg

ZZ-II
March 3rd, 2007, 07:51 PM
wow, there you really can see how big it is

Justa
March 3rd, 2007, 08:10 PM
wow...only parking???maybe some KGB deals...?

Ginza
March 3rd, 2007, 08:37 PM
thanks for the pics

Brad
March 30th, 2007, 09:00 PM
30.03.2007'
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/7392/gorguma2id5.jpgёё

ZZ-II
March 30th, 2007, 09:03 PM
lots of water and mud in the hole ^^

Herr Lind
March 31st, 2007, 10:32 PM
Example from Dubai :)

Ralphkke
May 2nd, 2007, 07:10 PM
The tower is great but the color sucks:|

xAKxRUSx
May 2nd, 2007, 09:10 PM
The color is great.

Sentient Seas
May 3rd, 2007, 12:20 AM
Looks like a great project, and yeah, it's four towers connected by skybridges basically, so I'd count it as just one tower. I really think they shouldn't make it red though, that makes it ugly as hell.

FastFerrari
May 3rd, 2007, 01:07 AM
THE RED CRUSH rises with spectacular projects....cant wait to see all these dreams come to life.

Adrian Smith fan
May 3rd, 2007, 01:29 AM
Example from Dubai :)

but not as much ;)

Gamma-Hamster
May 18th, 2007, 09:34 AM
Render
http://img.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo/business-lynch/files/F/3/F3D05BF0-C11F-4A64-BF62-825E0DBB6A28.jpg

Stephan23
May 18th, 2007, 10:02 AM
Isn't this one single tower??

ZZ-II
May 18th, 2007, 10:02 AM
will that tower really be red?

Isn't this one single tower??

as far as i know it are 4 towers which are connected very often. so i think you can coun't it as one single, and very big, tower

Xander
May 18th, 2007, 02:16 PM
^ thats the best render I've seen so far, gives more of a feeling of what it will actually look like.

Gamma-Hamster
May 18th, 2007, 05:09 PM
will that tower really be red?

As i understood, the red is actually lighting, not colour of the tower itself. Colour of lighting will be changeble, if needed.

ZZ-II
May 18th, 2007, 05:27 PM
that's good, thank you for the info :)

Alweron
May 18th, 2007, 06:33 PM
It looks quite impressing, at least the interior :O I just hope they won't make it red. Glassy facade would be much better. It would match the interior well.

SkyLerm
May 18th, 2007, 06:48 PM
I just don't like how massive is this complex..but i like colours...

Gamma-Hamster
May 18th, 2007, 06:51 PM
I just don't like how massive is this complex..but i like colours...
Well yeah, it could be a bit thiner, but i like it's boxy shape, i think boxy building is required in Moscow City to contrast other unusually shaped buildings:)

ZZ-II
May 18th, 2007, 07:01 PM
i love the big dimensions of it

Stefan88
May 18th, 2007, 07:12 PM
This building has grown on me alot. I think it will compliment the other buildings very well with it's unusual features. It'll look brilliant at night aswell.

Skyman
May 19th, 2007, 11:44 AM
Really nice shape, and I guess it's one single tower, the colour also fits well to it

Gamma-Hamster
July 8th, 2007, 08:22 PM
By igor:
http://re.foto.radikal.ru/0707/32/d453d16d47e6.jpg

Middle-Island
July 8th, 2007, 08:30 PM
Moscow will probably have the boldest, most futuristic *cluster* of buildings in the world when these are done.

giovani kun
July 8th, 2007, 09:11 PM
great pictures from Moskow :D

ZZ-II
July 8th, 2007, 09:14 PM
are this the first crane parts for the tower?

JohnFlint1985
July 8th, 2007, 09:32 PM
I like the "M" in the shape of it -- very interesting and new. Plus M stands for Moscow.

Skyman
July 9th, 2007, 03:41 PM
Interesting detailed picture

CULWULLA
July 9th, 2007, 04:17 PM
that render is so life-like?
such a massive building for 308m/1000ft tall. looks stumpy.its about 90m/300ft wide.

Herr Lind
July 9th, 2007, 07:04 PM
I can't understand - panes will be red? :crazy:

ZZ-II
July 9th, 2007, 07:07 PM
not sure but i believe it'll be able to change its color

philvia
July 9th, 2007, 09:32 PM
ummm i like the red... dont make it plain boring color like silver -_-

newyorkrunaway1
July 11th, 2007, 06:52 PM
congrats to moscow, but red?

Brad
July 24th, 2007, 05:37 PM
[QUOTE=Daniil N.;14423710]
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/330/1924th2.jpg

vladorlando
August 11th, 2007, 09:31 PM
I think this building too much fat for this place.

Brad
August 12th, 2007, 12:34 AM
Which building is too fat?
There are four buildings there.

MaZitRon
August 12th, 2007, 03:08 PM
^^It speaks that territories a little for this building

Brad
December 21st, 2007, 01:01 PM
The foundation slab is being prepared.
(the upper side of the photo)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2094/2123791149_c5334c1cc5_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2123791149&size=l

webeagle12
December 21st, 2007, 01:45 PM
nice shot brad, :) really like it

Qtya
December 31st, 2007, 07:22 PM
I don't like it... :ohno:

xlchris
December 31st, 2007, 08:55 PM
^Why not, it's great to see that, the inside!

Milllos
January 21st, 2008, 11:32 AM
Mercury T and Duma will be ready in 2011, maybe, not in 2008 and 2009.

Brad
January 21st, 2008, 01:47 PM
^^I hope in 2010

zerokarma
January 21st, 2008, 09:58 PM
Good update

silencer
January 30th, 2008, 07:47 AM
Hi Brad, you know what the colored material at the wall in your pics from post 163 and 164 is? Maybe its an anti vibration isolation. Is there an underground train in the direct neighbourhood of the foundation?

Brad
January 30th, 2008, 01:26 PM
^^I don't know if this is an anti vibration isolation.
There are several metro stations near by. The metro lines (green circles) pass just under that huge mall in the middle of the pic.

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4379/77951794sr5.jpg
Axort

PS I did not shoot these photos.

ZZ-II
January 30th, 2008, 09:56 PM
does anybody know how wide the City Hall and Duma will be?

coth
January 31st, 2008, 12:30 AM
The plot is around 80 x 80 meters.

coth
January 31st, 2008, 04:53 PM
taken by a friend of windstride
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/5757/066ro0.jpg

Brad
May 8th, 2008, 01:07 AM
by Александр Мотин; 07.05.08
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7836/photo0075wm4.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1648/photo0078pt8.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7068/photo0074gv7.jpg

cello1974
May 8th, 2008, 11:48 AM
Will it be red???

Densetsu
May 8th, 2008, 03:33 PM
^^Probably red. I hope they will change the color asap but actually it may give an interesting silhouette to moscow.

cello1974
May 8th, 2008, 04:24 PM
I think red is something rare. So, why not? And I LOVE red! I would love to see it in red with red illumination at night! :drool:

coth
May 8th, 2008, 04:56 PM
final design is not unveiled yet. probably it's now a single 309m tall building.

Sexas
May 8th, 2008, 07:13 PM
what's wrong with red!! Russian and Chinese think red is a lucky color in both countries.

I like red :)

Joel que
May 9th, 2008, 06:42 AM
is there any law in Moscow,banning the construction of high rise or skyscraper near the kremlin?

Brad
May 9th, 2008, 05:31 PM
Yes, there is.

ZZ-II
May 9th, 2008, 07:46 PM
final design is not unveiled yet. probably it's now a single 309m tall building.

it only has to be a supertall :)

choyak
May 9th, 2008, 11:05 PM
I hope there will still be the red 'M' at the top, that is cool especially at night.

icosium
May 9th, 2008, 11:16 PM
y a loublou mockba

SkyscraperFreak92
May 27th, 2008, 03:27 PM
any news ???

eyrie
May 28th, 2008, 10:37 AM
it only has to be a supertall :)
yes one can never have enough of the super or the tall:)

LeMoN-SK
May 28th, 2008, 10:50 AM
final design is not unveiled yet. probably it's now a single 309m tall building.

I would love to see a single building. Or maybe twins connected with just a light skybridge. The original project is just too massive IMO.

chinatown
May 28th, 2008, 02:12 PM
what's wrong with red!! Russian and Chinese think red is a lucky color in both countries.

I like red :)

red is a symbolized color of the commies.

I nv like 'hot colored' buildings such as red, pink.
But it's acceptable if it's in dark red, as long as it's not in bright red just like in the render.

coth
May 28th, 2008, 02:30 PM
chinatown
read the thread please before making such comments

all moscow city halls was red even before commies. moscow flag is red for centuries. red is symbolizing beauty in russia. (red square's actual name is beautiful square)

Sexas
May 29th, 2008, 08:43 PM
funny about color red, it is the only prime color people react the most. Most people have no problem with blue, green and yellow, but when it come to red, some love it but some hate it.
I don't understand is why all new building need to be blue glass or clear glass, for once I like to see a building stand out.

Alexriga
May 29th, 2008, 11:43 PM
I want it to be red with red illumination. Because red skyscrapers are extremely rare.

Brad
June 5th, 2008, 09:58 PM
exclusive photo from sturman;
http://sturman.ometro.net/journ/pics/2008/roof/roof_1057.jpg
Enlarge ) (http://sturman.ometro.net/journ/pics/2008/roof/big/roof_1057.jpg)

ZZ-II
June 5th, 2008, 10:50 PM
ready to rise :)

skyboi
June 7th, 2008, 08:54 PM
According to the IBC render's Animation this Tower look incredibly beautiful when lit up in illuminating red lights especially at the top

montesky
June 9th, 2008, 01:32 PM
the construction goes way too slow. i thought that moscow has loads of money to support this project

LeMoN-SK
June 9th, 2008, 02:59 PM
the construction goes way too slow. i thought that moscow has loads of money to support this project

Do you think that lack of money is the only reason that can slow down construction of a skyscraper?

Nneznajka
July 5th, 2008, 08:20 PM
by igor Today

http://i042.radikal.ru/0807/98/829bc7effff6.jpg

http://i008.radikal.ru/0807/10/de6bc2059642.jpg

http://i066.radikal.ru/0807/9b/e6c1ce84854f.jpg

http://i026.radikal.ru/0807/fe/07ebc707386c.jpg

skyboi
July 5th, 2008, 08:24 PM
Half of the base is progressing well the other half is still intact especially at the corner there ,they haven't got it flatten yet , it has been a while ...

Manitopiaaa
August 6th, 2008, 09:00 PM
Barf in a bag! This complex is hideous. I thought Russia was past Soviet-style architecture! Russia needs to seriously rethink their style because all Russian buildings so far look like the Oriental Pearl in Shanghai. Moscow will soon be as colorful as Willemstad!
Ironic since most Russians are rascist.

Majevčan
August 6th, 2008, 09:02 PM
Ironic since most Russians are rascist.
We are not interested in retarded comments here. So please:)

Justa
August 6th, 2008, 09:16 PM
Barf in a bag! This complex is hideous. I thought Russia was past Soviet-style architecture! Russia needs to seriously rethink their style because all Russian buildings so far look like the Oriental Pearl in Shanghai. Moscow will soon be as colorful as Willemstad!
Ironic since most Russians are rascist.

u do not know nothing about Russia, russians and an architecture itself ... So please... ban yourself or regain ur consciousness...

Peloso
August 6th, 2008, 09:31 PM
Ironic since most Russians are rascist....and furthermore, he doesn't even know his own language. :lol:

skyboi
August 7th, 2008, 08:04 AM
Barf in a bag! This complex is hideous. I thought Russia was past Soviet-style architecture! Russia needs to seriously rethink their style because all Russian buildings so far look like the Oriental Pearl in Shanghai. Moscow will soon be as colorful as Willemstad!
Ironic since most Russians are rascist.

The most beautiful building ever I have seen in a million years :) and It suits perfectly with Moscow and it peaceful loving people :applause:

anm
August 8th, 2008, 05:55 AM
Ironic since most Russians are rascist. It looks like you dislike too things - racism and Russians.

Peloso
August 8th, 2008, 07:03 AM
It looks like you dislike too things - racism and Russians.You're being too subtle for that guy.

skyboi
August 8th, 2008, 07:04 AM
Every time there is not foto of the building progress , people just kill time by talking off track :)

anm
August 8th, 2008, 07:11 PM
You're being too subtle for that guy.

Well, he claims to know what irony means.

Brad
September 9th, 2008, 12:47 AM
by igor; 08/09/08
http://i064.radikal.ru/0809/de/1506900020d5.jpg

SkyscraperFreak92
September 9th, 2008, 04:44 PM
the work is very slow...in the old plan the building was completed in ca 2/3 months....

webeagle12
September 9th, 2008, 05:01 PM
the work is very slow...in the old plan the building was completed in ca 2/3 months....

do you have to say same thing in all moscow threads?

FM 2258
September 9th, 2008, 05:40 PM
I never realized how "fat" this building is. I love it, it's going to be massive.

SkyscraperFreak92
September 10th, 2008, 04:42 PM
do you have to say same thing in all moscow threads?

not in all...just at the buildings where are the construction works so slow....mercury city tower and duma building.....they work since more than 1.5 years at the fundation....and you must say that this is slow, right?!

webeagle12
September 10th, 2008, 05:16 PM
not in all...just at the buildings where are the construction works so slow....mercury city tower and duma building.....they work since more than 1.5 years at the fundation....and you must say that this is slow, right?!

open your eyes and look at the size of this building, sigh :ohno:

**RS**
December 13th, 2008, 08:48 PM
What is the construction progress?

Nneznajka
December 13th, 2008, 10:45 PM
On Hold ^^

Gamma-Hamster
December 13th, 2008, 10:50 PM
On Hold ^^
No, it's not. At least as of now.

webeagle12
December 14th, 2008, 08:19 AM
On Hold ^^

source? :bash:

spectre000
December 14th, 2008, 08:48 AM
Of all the towers in the IBC, this is one I can't see being put on hold. After all, the government itself will be the primary tenants (and they need room). I'm sure they'll come up with the rubles to pay for it. By comparison this tower is about as far behind schedule as NY's 1WTC, and probably won't be finished for several more years, but I'm sure it'll be built.

stewartrama
December 14th, 2008, 05:54 PM
this is a big-ass building

coth
December 14th, 2008, 11:51 PM
they are working on a huge foundation slab. and zero level works are 100% financed from the city budget.

Brad
December 15th, 2008, 01:47 AM
Because of the crisis the Moscow gvmnt has to stop some very important projects.
If the crisis continues it will have to stop other very important for the city projects.
So I doubt the mayor will invest money in the City Hall construction at the expense, say, of the roads construction.
Moscow could not find investors during many years. So it will be even more difficult now.
We all have to wait till the crisis stops...
PS To my mind the foundation construction will continue for several years more)), very slowly...

coth
December 15th, 2008, 02:02 AM
this project has got 100% of finances for zero level

spectre000
December 15th, 2008, 04:28 AM
this project has got 100% of finances for zero level

But what happens after the below ground levels are finished? Is Moscow going to finance the rest of the construction or will they go to the private sector? I think either way it could be tough.

coth
December 15th, 2008, 04:34 AM
invest tender

KVentz
December 16th, 2008, 11:39 AM
But what happens after the below ground levels are finished? Is Moscow going to finance the rest of the construction or will they go to the private sector? I think either way it could be tough.
First they thought about to finance rest of the construction (some years ago). Then, there were (are?) plans to finance only 50% from the budget and another 50% — from private companies. Some people think they just can't find the investor for this project, but there were no tenders about this yet. What Moscow government will do now? Only Mr. Crisis knows. :)

guzm@n
December 17th, 2008, 04:39 AM
On hold? :ohno:

This is my favourite building in the IBC, so is sad to hear that. At least we will have updates until the zero level.

igor
January 13th, 2009, 03:57 PM
13/01/09

http://s59.radikal.ru/i165/0901/04/4d6f20b96f71.jpg

http://s39.radikal.ru/i083/0901/7b/0bb86eb35635.jpg

http://i026.radikal.ru/0901/93/2a0e7b1c7d97.jpg

choyak
January 15th, 2009, 07:17 AM
Please tell me that the top crown shows a huge 'M'. That is so awesome looking, and also I love the FATNESS, but actually isn't this 4 towers?

Wow, I just stared at the rendering, the whole building looks like a huge 'M'. I hope that is what is still planned to be built.

Hed_Kandi
January 15th, 2009, 07:41 AM
So is this one on hold or not?

webeagle12
January 15th, 2009, 08:37 AM
So is this one on hold or not?

not sure it's looks "frozen" :lol::lol: :ohno:

Justa
January 15th, 2009, 09:27 AM
yep :) , only in russia we have such status like "frozen" - look at the crane...

coth
January 15th, 2009, 09:58 AM
So is this one on hold or not?
no it isn't. the government has changed the developer. new developer is on the site already and preparing to begin.

luci203
January 15th, 2009, 12:00 PM
^^ ^^

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/h5forem/women10restj5.gif

rafaaarkiteto
March 4th, 2009, 06:25 PM
Such a great complex of buildings. Here in Brazil we don`t use to build tall buildings like these. The architects and the constrution market preffer build construtions of 150m in general.

**RS**
April 27th, 2009, 08:25 PM
Construction of the towers at the beginning of April.
02.04.2009

http://s57.radikal.ru/i157/0904/d8/51eb37774a6d.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Brad
April 27th, 2009, 11:05 PM
not much more information in the comparison with the post 232 :)

Nneznajka
May 6th, 2009, 06:36 PM
30.04.09

by Boch

Now we see some progress :banana:

http://irc.lv/images/photos/0/370/467/262640_orig.jpeg

christos-greece
May 6th, 2009, 06:42 PM
I saw the renderings in the first page. The interior looks great , like the exterior too. The red color: the tower will have the red color as seems in renderings?

Nneznajka
May 6th, 2009, 06:47 PM
It is planned to be red, but you know anything can happen.. Especially in cryzis and especially in Russia :)

Shortest Skyscraper
May 6th, 2009, 06:56 PM
I was wondering that myself... a constant red glow. Would it reflect from the windows in the offices? How would birds react to it... would they be afraid to land on this building? Maybe they can have an adjustable color and color-saturation for all the floors.

poshbakerloo
May 6th, 2009, 08:22 PM
wow i used to live in Moscow in the 90s...

there has been such a transformation!!!

spectre000
May 7th, 2009, 01:28 AM
The progress on this one and Mercury City is great to see. I hope we'll see both of these grow quickly. More density to the IBC will be great.

Now if they could just get the Russia Tower restarted...

gcpjessy
May 7th, 2009, 03:59 AM
I am familiarly with this construction site. But i do not have the chance to the see the finished project,the skyscraper.. When I sold out my concrete mixing plant& Asphalt mixing plant, I always think more about the running of the machine. Hope they perform satisfactorily...

Stephanie-kun
May 7th, 2009, 04:26 AM
and especially in Russia :)

In Soviet Russia, nobody knows YOU!

christos-greece
May 7th, 2009, 07:52 PM
That red think, would be glass? I mean red glass...?