Aspect Web site is up and running:

www.aspectliving.com

The official launch of the 41 level tower will be on October 16 (mix of residential and serviced apartments...)

btw, what is the proposed building on the cnr of Oxford and Riley Sts? (looks cool) And the small tower in Liverpool St facing the southern edge of Hyde Park? You've done the preliminary models Richard so what's the story? You've also added Meriton's 4th Regis tower to the model which is good too....Just need to paint Latitude soon! hehe

In the North, St Leonards is booming - after Northmark, Shoremark, Forum 1&2, Space 207, Habitat, Veronne 1,2 & 3, Abode, Linea and Nexus, there are Aria, Arden and Trinity coming up! (the last three should be in Albany St...)

Cheers

Thanx Ax3,

Still no rendering available at the site even though a vague side elevation of the upper half is available.

ATM There is more propaganda touting broadband connections (gee we are such a smart building, too!), more happy, smiley & vacant pics of people eating 'n exercising and pretty flash visuals.

The boards are still up at the site on Cunningham Street with the same petals-floating-in-the-water type fantasy logo.

Hanging out for a REAL render. on this one!

Altious, that for posting that website! Its about time the former Gotham city tower is finally taking of. At 136m high its as high as the tallest on Surfers and even taller than Adelaides Santos House.!!
Rondeez,
the new bldg planned for cnr Liverpool/Riley is the revamped Oxford Inn.
The other tower in Liverpool st is a 15storey 159 Liverpool st .its actually a horrible 1970's office tower being converted to a res tower. its definately an improvement!
# there was a movie made in mid 80's called "The 13th floor' and the bldgs lift was possessed and carmen miranda was in it. and the lifts killed people! eeiii. it was such a bad movie but worth seeing with shots of sydney's highrise!!

cheers:D

The 13th floor? Wasn't there a recent movie by the same name?

BTW, S*****r's 'North' Apartments are also starting... or are they not? I reckon they're pretty nice... good effort. Still white though.

Originally posted by CULWULLA
rondeez, that for posting that website! Its about time the former Gotham city tower is finally taking of. At 136m high its as high as the tallest on Surfers and even taller than Adelaides Santos House.!!
the new bldg planned for cnr Liverpool/Riley is the revamped Oxford Inn.
The other tower in Liverpool st is a 15storey 159 Liverpool st .its actually a horrible 1970's office tower being converted to a res tower. its definately an improvement!
# there was a movie made in mid 80's called "The 13th floor' and the bldgs lift was possessed and carmen miranda was in it. and the lifts killed people! eeiii. it was such a bad movie but worth seeing with shots of sydney's highrise!!

cheers:D

why thankyou ... LOL.

what exactly is it that yur thanking me for cully? HAHA :D

i thought it was altius x3 that posted it hehe :)

That's alright ronny, we knew culwulla meant A x 3 (i've been called Finn a couple of times in the past LOL)

Still no render available for Australand's Arden in St Leonards either.

Yes fro, The DNA Strand; North's construction is in full swing on Goulburn St. White with coloured 'bits'.....

............................http://seidler.net.au/graphics/033_DT02.jpg

Originally posted by museumb
That's alright ronny, we knew culwulla meant A x 3 (i've been called Finn a couple of times in the past LOL)

Still no render available for Australand's Arden in St Leonards either.

Yes fro, The DNA Strand; North's construction is in full swing on Goulburn St. White with coloured 'bits'.....

............................http://seidler.net.au/graphics/033_DT02.jpg

I've got a 2 Cunningham St elevation somewhere - looks very close to the images on the website...will search files now! :)

Sorry muse! Didn't mean to quote you on that one...must have pressed "quote" instead of "reply"...anyhow...

So found the elevation, but its called 6A Cunningham, rather than 2...but I assume it is the same.

Also, the design looks a bit different from what is shown on the website, so this is probably an earlier version of the current scheme, but anyway, here it is (a nice big elevation!):

http://www.arch.usyd.edu.au/~afindlay/6acunningham.jpg

That's one nice looking tower :-)

I love some of the architecture going up these days :D :D :D

You can quote me anytime finn, mistakenly or intentionally :)

Yeah, thanx (never seen that one b4); i have 2 hard copy side elevations too. One very close to the web site's. I guess i'm really waiting to see a nice P.R. artist's rendering. :(

I actually like the robotic look of finn's elevation. If the envelope is still the same, Aspect has some nice height.

Good ridance to the gambling den on the site as well....humpffff!

Originally posted by museumb
I actually like the robotic look of finn's elevation. If the envelope is still the same, Aspect has some nice height.

Well, the sketchy images on the website seem to indicate that they've gone for the "petals on water" theme (as the logo reflects) with the curvy/wavy rooftop, rather than the hard edge robotic look of the angled roof.

Either way, they both look promising! :D

Rondeez, here is a model of the redevelopment of the Oxford Koala Hotel.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid29/pca15d5985d9b8e4ff2efeecb45e81c87/fd595343.jpg

Finally, more rumblings of development in Sydney. This long awaited tower will definately add more desity and style to the World Square precinct. Looks as though there is a major density shift heading in a southward direction in the CBD :D

I am getting pretty excited with all of the CBD activity.
I have only been living in Sydney for about 30 months and haven't yet seen a CBD building boom ( I arrived at the tail end of the last one ). If it is anything like the boom currently happening in the suburbs then I will be a very happy man for the next few years !
The southern CBD is the epi centre of hi-rise contstruction, similar in many ways to Southbank in Melb !!!

Spaz, yeah the southern section near World square is the epi centre alright! With our city model the colour coding indicates the status of the individual building. The "red cotta" colour indicates underconstruction and i pointed out to a planner last week that the city module which has World square in its centre is agoing to be full of red bldgs innext couple of months. It will have the following bldgs UC colour>..
Village tower
110 Liverpool st
World tower
Ernst & Young @ latitude
Civic Centre (masonic)
North Apts
Aspect
cassia gardens
this should look impressive on the model as a large red area!!

cheers

Originally posted by spazpecker
I am getting pretty excited with all of the CBD activity.
I have only been living in Sydney for about 30 months and haven't yet seen a CBD building boom ( I arrived at the tail end of the last one ). If it is anything like the boom currently happening in the suburbs then I will be a very happy man for the next few years !




Cool... then you've only been in Sydney for about as long as I have (I arrived about July 2000)... Where did you come to Sydney from?

I love the current building boom, I only wish the buildings were a little taller. The rate we're going, we're going to have a hell of a lot of towers 235m in length... We may end up with a skyline a lot like Adelaide's in the future, only considerably taller...

Originally posted by museumb
That's alright ronny, we knew culwulla meant A x 3 (i've been called Finn a couple of times in the past LOL)

Still no render available for Australand's Arden in St Leonards either.

Yes fro, The DNA Strand; North's construction is in full swing on Goulburn St. White with coloured 'bits'.....

............................http://seidler.net.au/graphics/033_DT02.jpg

Hmmm interesting colours.Ive forgoton where Golburn street is in Sydney.
Doko?

Goulburn St borders the southern edge of the World Square block.

So its right in the epicentre of the southern CBD construction zone, with Civic Tower (Masonic), North, Aspect, Latitude all anticipated to start construction along there soon.

What happened to the gorgeous original design??? Have they gone with another design or is it just me?:? :?

The rendering looks different to the model down in the city model. Have they actually changed the design?

Yes, they appear to have changed the design - it will not be the original Gotham City design, but it will not be the elevation that I posted either. If you check out the website, they have a different looking roof element, and a few other things happening that have changed.

I think we're gonna have to wait until a full rendering is released to see the final resolved design of this one.

New rendering of Aspect in this weekend's S.M.H.. :okay:

The new rendering does have some resemblence to the one appearing on the city model, but it appears to be a bit sharper and more pointy.

if the developers of Aspectare serious about building, i wonder when there going to lodge plans at Council? nothing will happen until they do so. maybe they ,ight show up any day now!:)

It has been approved according to the grey on the model. They better start making their way to the Town Hall as soon as possible if they want to finalise it's design and commence building before it's gets too costly or there is a property crash.

Maybe they are launching it now so they can raise the funds need to build this tower. What do you think?

Here's the Aspect rendering from this morning's domain:

http://www.arch.usyd.edu.au/~afindlay/aspect01.jpg

It actually looks really similar to the current proposal on the model - maybe it is a rebranded Gotham City, with the same design :?

They could possibly be going with the already approved design?

I've been looking at the rendering from The Domain on and off all day. It looks good, slender and tall enough but the base, even though lined with apartments, is just reminiscent of the carpark areas at the base of the Carlton Crest Hotel in Haymarket (behind the substation being built).

The decorative 'bits' fronting the Goulburn Street side are funky and it still has exactly the same wavey top as the side elevation on the Aspect web site.

Carlton Crest:

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/5/2001/07/123075.jpg

Originally posted by museumb
That's alright ronny, we knew culwulla meant A x 3 (i've been called Finn a couple of times in the past LOL)

Still no render available for Australand's Arden in St Leonards either.

Yes fro, The DNA Strand; North's construction is in full swing on Goulburn St. White with coloured 'bits'.....

............................http://seidler.net.au/graphics/033_DT02.jpg

Very sexy indeed.I like the 60s colour schemes

Ahhhhhhhhhh,

The humanity!!!!!!!!!

Are they serious?

http://seidler.net.au/graphics/033_DT02.jpg

This man must be stopped.

If that's DNA, it's mutated, phase shifted and completely denatured.

Cheers,

Adam

Too late! Construction is in full swing. :banana:

BTW I've also noticed with the Aspect rendering that the row of 3 storey art deco buildings lining Goulburn Street are staying (that strange sleezy looking gambling joint on Cunningham St can go)!! Rating = :banana: :banana: :banana:

On getting a glossy with more happy smiliey people, i was informed that 15 of the 94 apartments have been sold and it is "very likely" the development will go ahead as Kimberley, the developers, are keen. Looks like they are settling on the above design as everything has it i.e. brochures and showroom.

Looks like the sleezy casino has closed and the Aspect site office has been set up in the next building across Cunningham Street at 59 Goulburn Street where the Australia Cinema used to be.

Apartments are priced from $295,000 min. for a sudio, $570,000 min. for a 2 br., up to $1,350,000 max. for a 3br..

.

Aspect is going ahead - there's no doubt about that...

It is one of 'nice to have' towers in the Southern CBD....

But the 'must have' one is 720 George St (the ugliest site in any city anywhere that cries to be developed) Richard was gonna prepare a model for it...... :?

It's just that plans are still before council for Aspect (that's the meaning of my last post). Even the rep was careful in saying "very likely".

Also noticed today that foundation work has begun on Bullecourt on Harris Street Ultimo (finally).

Yeah, you never know for sure when it comes to those dodgy developers without financial muscle. Maybe they will give it a go if vast majority of units are sold off the plan. But how about the huge serviced apartments component of this development?...

I remember a very similar tower proposed for the same site and heavily advertised in SMH a few years ago...It never took off the ground... :bash:

Originally posted by museumb
On getting a glossy with more happy smiliey people, i was informed that 15 of the 94 apartments have been sold and it is "very likely" the development will go ahead as Kimberley, the developers, are keen. Looks like they are settling on the above design as everything has it i.e. brochures and showroom.

Looks like the sleezy casino has closed and the Aspect site office has been set up in the next building across Cunningham Street at 59 Goulburn Street where the Australia Cinema used to be.

Apartments are priced from $295,000 min. for a sudio, $570,000 min. for a 2 br., up to $1,350,000 max. for a 3br..

.

Wow, I'm surprised that a tower that size only has 94 apartments!

94 residential apartments.....the rest are serviced apartments :D

Originally posted by AltiusAltiusAltius
94 residential apartments.....the rest are serviced apartments :D

Ahhh, I see! Cool! So the boxy looking podium would be the serviced apartments and the rest are the privately owned apartments.

Well, provided they've got a serviced apartment company set up for that section, it should be built no worries! :okay:

Originally posted by AltiusAltiusAltius
94 residential apartments.....the rest are serviced apartments :D

Ahhh, I see! Cool! So the boxy looking podium would be the serviced apartments and the rest are the privately owned apartments.

Well, provided they've got a serviced apartment company set up for that section, it should be built no worries! :okay:

I can't say I'm excited about this one. At least not based on the rendering. It looks like very substandard Meriton schlock to me, and Meriton aren't even involved!

The upper part of the building looks like it's plonked on top of the "carpark" base as if they were built in different eras - nothing there relates to each other!

The art-deco-like 3-pronged fins that are placed up the building along the thin spine looks like it eats into some serious balcony space....wouldn't want to live in those floors! (more visible in the larger rendering in Domain than in the smaller image above).

I'd be much happier if they worked the base of the building into the upper section of the tower a lot more gradually, perhaps with the base stepping back with each floor until it blends into the high-rise section.

The small balconies cheapen the look of the building too. Perhaps a "louvre" treatment spanning the height of the building would work better.

Seems like nothing more than "filler" to me, such a waste of an opportunity.

Who, may I ask, are the architects?!

This was never going to be a great tower since they started to water down the original designs. It will however break up some of the blockiness being created over at World Square and next door at 59 Goulburn St. I will wait till it is completed (although in the rendering too many balconies for my liking and the 'carpark-looking' base is, well, to say the least ..... )

i felt the art deco-ish fins are redeeming features of the design and they can eat into as much balcony space as they like!!

The 72 serviced apartments will be in the lower section (as already mentioned) up to level 11 whereas the 94 apartments will be from level 12-38.

BTW There is still no decision on which company will run the serviced apartments.

:)

BTW Wolff is listed as the architectural firm.

This baby doesn't look too bad. It's surrondings are pretty awful (eg Meriton's Miramar, Ibis WS hotel, terrible low rise shops etc) so let's hope it will happen soon...

It's gonna look good from Central rising in front of the World Square (namely Horden Tower) :cool:

Originally posted by museumb
BTW Wolff is listed as the architectural firm.

Thanks for that, Museumb.

Originally posted by museumb i felt the art deco-ish fins are redeeming features of the design and they can eat into as much balcony space as they like!!


I agree with you that they do make the design look a lot more interesting than it would be without them. However, to be totaly scathing, I often do wonder how much amenity is lost to residents of a building (or rather, certain parts of a building) due to frivolous architectural decorations that are put in place to "spruce up" or "hide" what is most likely banal or poor architecture in the first place.

Maybe I'll start a thread on this topic tonight some time. I need to gather photos to show examples of what I mean, first.

I am being unfair to the architect though, they've probably designed something fantastic only to have it watered down, as you've just mentioned.

Speaking of the design of the tower (the strange hybrid it is), does anyone know if the building still has excessive amounts of blank face walls?

I think that whole face on the left hand side/east side of the tower is one huge sheer wall of blankness. Kind of like the sheer white wall you can see on the north face of the podium.

This particular design caused a big uproar when it was proposed, for these reasons and a couple of others, and I was just wondering if it has been fixed at all?

very cool tower indeed! :cool:

Originally posted by AltiusAltiusAltius
This baby doesn't look too bad. It's surrondings are pretty awful (eg Meriton's Miramar, Ibis WS hotel, terrible low rise shops etc) so let's hope it will happen soon...

It's gonna look good from Central rising in front of the World Square (namely Horden Tower) :cool:

I agree with you. That area is fairly run down. The shops are ugly and the area needs a lift. This with the addition of the World Square development should lift the area and the area becomes more lively and better shops open.

Originally posted by finn
Speaking of the design of the tower (the strange hybrid it is), does anyone know if the building still has excessive amounts of blank face walls? I think that whole face on the left hand side/east side of the tower is one huge sheer wall of blankness. Kind of like the sheer white wall you can see on the north face of the podium. This particular design caused a big uproar when it was proposed, for these reasons and a couple of others, and I was just wondering if it has been fixed at all? Yes, a hybrid of styles it is. Phillip Cox (the OZ architect) wavey bits, post modern features and standard Gold Coast balcony high rises.

I can't imagine the east side would be a sheer wall of blankness. Not at those prices. Unless on the lower levels where they only have peek-a-boo bathroom windows http://www.plauder-smilies.de/peepwall.gif .

BTW What was the "big uproar"? Also for the few reasons and a couple of others you say finn, fixed at all :? . Pauline Hanson: "Please Explain". :)

just to let everyone know, the approved model in the city display is the DA the wolffe firm designed. It had to go to court years ago and council were beaten!lol the council didnt like anything about it. the way it is "hemmed in" and the east facing wall with no windows!! but a guy (cant think of his name) bought it recently for 42mill and i heard from a council guy last week they only have to lodge construction certificate and it will start in january 2003!!
I do believe it is heemed in thou! think bout it>

going clockwse from south face-
the 108m Roden cutler house to south,
the planned 112m 720 George st tower (which is currently going thru design stage) this will fill up gap between rodencut & Sydney sq.
the 100m Sydney square to its abrupt west,
the 89m cassia garden UC on george st (this will stop views towards chinese gardens)
the 190m Latitude tower to north
the 230m world Tower (these two towers will shadow Aspect no doubt).
138m Horden towers looking north
the wall of 100m bldg along castlereagh st to west (Com Bank,etc)
the new 130m Civic tower to west
and finally 114m Mirramar to east
so as you can tell you wont be an aprtment in the Aspect for views!!lol

cheers

Welcome to Canyon City! :cool:

so as you can tell you wont be an aprtment in the Aspect for views!!lol

Maybe not, but it will be a voyeurs paradise! :) All those people in Aspect looking into other peoples apartments and offices and vice versa! You wouldn't want to be shy! :)

http://www.plauder-smilies.de/coollook.gif

Originally posted by museumb
Yes, a hybrid of styles it is. Phillip Cox (the OZ architect) wavey bits, post modern features and standard Gold Coast balcony high rises.

I can't imagine the east side would be a sheer wall of blankness. Not at those prices. Unless on the lower levels where they only have peek-a-boo bathroom windows http://www.plauder-smilies.de/peepwall.gif .

BTW What was the "big uproar"? Also for the few reasons and a couple of others you say finn, fixed at all :? . Pauline Hanson: "Please Explain". :)
:omg: I cannot believe this!! I have seriously too much paraphenalia in my room of property articles, brochures, advertisements - it is just all over the place (I have bought a filing cabinet for it, but its taking me a while to organise everything).

Anyway, whenever I want to find something to show to someone, I never ever can - until now! Museumb, I have found the information you requested in a matter of minutes!!! :D

Okay, to your question. I have a copy of a booklet published by the City of Sydney called "Unwanted Legacies of the Land and Environment Court", subtitled "A selection of developments approved by Land and Environment Court which highlight the need for reform." It is basically full of pages of developments rejected by numerous Sydney councils, but approved by the Land and Environment Court anyway.

And 2-6A & 12 Cunningham St (Aspect site) is one of these developments. For a start, let me begin my writing out the description of the proposal: 41 storey residential development comprising 92 residential and 72 serviced apartments, a convenience store, a pub, bistro and gaming room operating 24 hours, 7 days a week.

So for a start, that mini Las-Vegas gambling slum that exists on the site at the moment is going nowhere - simply being rebuilt.

When the development was first put in for council assessment (1999), it was rejected for the following reasons:

- Not in keeping with the Central Sydney Local Environment Plan (LEP) 1996 objectives of ensuring high level of design quality and ensuring protection and enhancement of the quality of public areas of central Sydney.

- Did not comply with acceptable standards in relation to urban design and its impact on the immediate location.

- Involved overdevelopment of a narrow site and was unsympathetic to an adjoining heritage building and the character of the street generally.

- The separation of the proposed development from adjoining multi-storey buildings was unsatisfactory.

- Contravened the Council's residential amenity policy in relation to suitable accomodation mix.

- Did not resolve satisfactorily the issue of pedestrian and vehicular access and as such would result in unacceptable traffic congestion.

- Would inhibit future development of adjoining sites.

So as you can see, there were numerous reasons for the rejection. On receiving this rejection the developers went to the Land and Environment Court and were also rejected by the court.

In response to this the developers prepared a "new" development application, and resubmitted it to council. They were rejected by council again for exactly the same reasons. However, as the council report states: Despite the proposal remaining substantially the same, if not worse, as that which had been rejected by the Court in the first appeal, the Court upheld this second appeal."

Both of the submissions are presented below, and as you can see show very little difference between the two proposals:

http://www.arch.usyd.edu.au/~afindlay/aspectrejection.jpg

Some other issues which arose were the excessive amount of blank walls. In the elevation you can see the heritage building at the back of the tower (shown best in the second elevation), which Aspect will wrap around in the same way that Culwulla Chambers wraps around another building - facing it with 41 storey high blank walls.

And as I thought, the entire eastern wall is indeed a blank wall. As the council report states: In particular, the Court did not accept that the visual prominence and scale of the proposed large, blank eastern wall contravened the Council's objectives in relation to urban design. Instead, the Court accepted the applicant's evidence that the modelling and detail relief on the wall made it an "abstract work of art" such as was, overall, accepted."

Can you imagine how enormous the huge blank wall of this 41 storey tower is going to be?!?

In addition to this, further issues raised and rejected by council but approved by the court include huge columns which did not respect the existing streetfront, poor fire exits, and the intense activity (i.e. pub, gaming hall, bistro, traffic entrances, apartment lobbies etc.) on such a small frontage to the lane.

So when Aspect is built, Sydney will be receiving a development that was entirely rejected by the city council, and will inhibit the development of other sites on the block around it. :ohno:

They don't need to have a blank wall for a building that tall. The chances of a tower that height being built next door are very slim. It is a blight on the skyline and will ruin it to some extent.

To build it in a laneway, why there? Isn't the street narrow? Could of they built it facing Pitt St instead which is a major road? The laneway is going to be clogged and hard to navigate through.
I might have to check the site out if I go to the city tommorrow.

Also The Land and Environment court needs to be reformed hard. Their knowledge of urban planning is fairly poor and this needs to be fixed up before we see more developments are "bad" for various reasons.

I totally disagree with you guys. It's about time the developers started to stand up the the council, and I'm so glad they had the guts to go to court and win.

All the reasons given by council as to why the building should not be built are dodgy nit-picking exercises. It's absolute and utter bullshit. An exercise in red tape and nothing else. In truth, this building will do no damage at all to the city. In fact, it will further enhance it. Sometimes the council workers have to justify their jobs by making it hard for the developers. The worst thing that could happen to that site is putting up another 15 storey piece of crap apartment shitbox.

- Would inhibit future development of adjoining sites.

What?! Shouldn't the landowners of the surrounding sites then be compensated significantly if they can't develop their site in future to their rightful floorspace ratio, due to this building being built?

If a neighboring site cant develop on a portion of their land to satisfy council requirements regarding the "closeness" of the new building to an existing one (Aspect), then to be able to make full advantage of the floorspace ratio they bought and rightly deserve, they would be forced to develop higher (smaller floorplates, more floors......good for us! ;)), however, this would incur a higher cost. Shouldn't this higher cost be compensated for by the developers of Aspect, as they were the company that imposed a restriction on the neighboring site?

The neighbours of Aspect should take this to court if they've lost out!

yeah, i know all about the court case! we had to take the city module with aspect 1 & 2 with it over several weeks. i dont mind the tower. notice the one that was rejected the "bat cave" car park entrance! brilliant!! i was spewing they had to loose it. i actually like the design but i wish the fabulous western facade could be more seen from street. as for the blank wall, there will be a few windows up and down it. should look cool when completed!!

cheers

Originally posted by Tony P


What?! Shouldn't the landowners of the surrounding sites then be compensated significantly if they can't develop their site in future to their rightful floorspace ratio, due to this building being built?

If a neighboring site cant develop on a portion of their land to satisfy council requirements regarding the "closeness" of the new building to an existing one (Aspect), then to be able to make full advantage of the floorspace ratio they bought and rightly deserve, they would be forced to develop higher (smaller floorplates, more floors......good for us! ;)), however, this would incur a higher cost. Shouldn't this higher cost be compensated for by the developers of Aspect, as they were the company that imposed a restriction on the neighboring site?

The neighbours of Aspect should take this to court if they've lost out!

No way dude. First in best dressed.

Originally posted by MrTall
I totally disagree with you guys. It's about time the developers started to stand up the the council, and I'm so glad they had the guts to go to court and win.


I'm sorry but blank walls absolutely suck! They better come up with something pretty impressive to decorate the thing if they feel justified in building it!

I just can't get over the fact that there is the elevations that I posted (not too bad), and then on the other side of the building there is a huge blank, flat wall as tall and as wide as the side with the main facade!

I really hope, as you say Culwulla, that they will find a way to make it look good and maybe get at least a couple of windows in there!

Finn, i was talking to a planner about that issue (blank wall) and he said theres talk about "false" windows or "painted on" elements so it will break up the 120m high x40m wide blank wall!
serious!!!

or my suggestion would be better!>

we could hook up a giant movie projector on Miramar across the road and paint Aspects wall white and show large size movies!!. The visitors in the CB Hotel (which is the cnr bldg directly underneath the blank wall) could sit outdoor on the rooftop and view the movie!!!!brilliant! Aspect could make lots of money this way to pay for bldg fees etc.

LOL

cheers

Originally posted by CULWULLA
Finn, i was talking to a planner about that issue (blank wall) and he said theres talk about "false" windows or "painted on" elements so it will break up the 120m high x40m wide blank wall!
serious!!!

or my suggestion would be better!>

we could hook up a giant movie projector on Miramar across the road and paint Aspects wall white and show large size movies!!. The visitors in the CB Hotel (which is the cnr bldg directly underneath the blank wall) could sit outdoor on the rooftop and view the movie!!!!brilliant! Aspect could make lots of money this way to pay for bldg fees etc.

LOL

cheers

:ohno: false windows = architectural travesty

Why don't they just ask the local primary school to paint a nice mural for f*ck's sake! Bags not covering the building on liability while the year 1's climb up the scaffolding!! ;)

I like your movie idea much more Culwulla! :yes:

False windows? Thats a disgrace

Put real ones in, thats better.

This tower is starting to earn the title of "Sydney's Ugly duckling"

Well, let's hope Aspect turns into a beautiful swan :angel1: .

@ finn. Thankyou. The mechanisms of this are quite interesting.

I also have a copy of "L & E Court Review Jan. 2001". It has exactly the same 'rejected' and 'approved' diagrams of the Gotham City development.

In layperson terms this is exactly what the newsletter states:

Why the City of Sydney rejected the Gotham City development.

* Building too big for site
* Design not good enough
* Adverse effects on adjoining sites including adjacent heritage hotel
* Failure to meet 'green' development requirements
* Some units will be dark and stuffy
* Over-excavation of the site
* Too many studio apartments
* Lack of street front activity
* Makes Cunningham Street pedestrian unfriendly

There is an accompanying article that includes quote: "Sitting uneasily in a narrow laneway off Goulburn Street, the imposing tower will contain 72 serviced and 94 residential apartments, as well as a 24 hour pub, bistro and gaming room."

Well, from Gotham City to Aspect, the apartment configuration remains the same. I have a strong feeling that the new 24/7 "fun parlour" will be classier than the dive that it will replace.

Thanks again finn for being so thorough in your reply. :okay:

Originally posted by Fabian
False windows? Thats a disgrace

Put real ones in, thats better.

This tower is starting to earn the title of "Sydney's Ugly duckling"

Woah! steady on! It'll have to be exceptionally ugly to beat some of meriton's early offerings...

Damn fugly buildings:moods:

Just look at how narrow Cunningham Street is

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid36/p9221ac988ec9b9ac932417bdb7ccccaa/fd1f7070.jpg.orig.jpg

You can barely park your car here and looks as if it might be hard to navigate through. This backs up the council arguments of the development being pedestrian unfriendly and traffic problems.

I dont think it will be Sydney's ugly duckling! its actually quite elegant from the balconied face. Check out the "back to front " pic of it today in the middle of Sunday tele!!!!! Its in the home owners liftout! It talks about prices of units and sizes. Also the 3mill penthouse will take 3 top floors!! They also chat with developer kimberley Securitiesabout its location and "aspect". they like how the tower faces north for its aspect!

cheers

It certainly won't be Sydney's ugly duckling, for crying out loud. Enough of this sensationalism, people!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It will add marvellous density and refresh an absolute shithole of an area. This is exactly what the doctor ordered.

And who really gives a hoot about the eastern facade anyway. The southern part of the CBD looks crap from that side anyway so I don't see the conflict at all. Some of the other reasons given by council are equally retarded e.g "Makes Cunningham St pedestrian unfriendly". WTF???? Who uses that Street anyway?

looking at the list of objections, it makes you wonder if there's anything they could build on that site at all that will make the council tosspots happy.

I view it to be "the ugly duckling" because of the councils attitude on the development. Also the eastern side with no windows or balconies would justify this.

These apartments will improve the area and I do support this, but some changes will have to be made before it gets off the gorund.

It's quite spectacular for Southern CBD...Can't wait to see this one, Latitude, Masonic Ctre Civic Tower and hopefully 720 George going up! Will be a nice cluster of towers.... :cool:

Originally posted by MrTall
"Makes Cunningham St pedestrian unfriendly". WTF???? Who uses that Street anyway?

looking at the list of objections, it makes you wonder if there's anything they could build on that site at all that will make the council tosspots happy. Yes, the list is quite hilarious.

I don't think i have even seen anyone in Cunningham Street. The triad probably slipped into the gambling den and then across to the Australia Cinema to catch a Chinese soft porno flick. Those places are now history.

Cunningham is not even a bloody street. Just a pokey little kind of cul-de-sac.

Hmmm...In looking at a map of that area of Sydney, I must say that the building does sit on a very awkward block shape, and has been designed quite well considering those constraints, with respect to the massing.

If only they could have gotten control of the heritage building down the back of the block though, and eliminated the little segment of the building that is cut out around the heritage structure!

The entire remainder of the block, besides the Aspect site, appears to be taken up by one large rectangular building (CB Hotel), which I think could easily be developed in the future, and block the expanse of the eastern blank wall.

There is hope! :banana:

Originally posted by museumb
Yes, the list is quite hilarious.

I don't think i have even seen anyone in Cunningham Street. The triad probably slipped into the gambling den and then across to the Australia Cinema to catch a Chinese soft porno flick. Those places are now history.

Cunningham is not even a bloody street. Just a pokey little kind of cul-de-sac.

It should be viewed more as a laneway seeing that the street is so narrow like other laneways across the CBD.

Also on the council said that it was pedrestrian unfriendly was the narrow footpaths and how the increased volume of pedrestrians would force people to walk on the street and would hamper those driving through the street.

More than likely means (another) bare concreted car access into the building off Cunningham "Lane". I think most traffic though will just drop people off on Goulburn Street, like from friend's or rellies' cars and taxis.

Residents who choose to live there will not be driving to work or to their entertainment needs.....and with Chinatown around the corner, who needs to "drive" to the supermarket. Gee, and the City Convenience Store if still there on Aspect's completion, will do a roooooaring trade.

Like those all those glossy brochures tell us, "everything is there at your doorstep" LOL :) .

Yeah, Cunningham St. will become more of an access way to the developments which front it - it is by no means a thoroughfare as it is.

Cunningham is a one-way street fronted by only a few buildings. Sydney Plaza, Roden Cutler House, CB Hotel, Aspect, and a few other small buildings are the only ones with access to it - so it is essentially an access lane to the carpark's of these buildings.

It's access lane exits on to Goulburn St, and the only difficulty will be right-hand turns from Cunningham, which will probably not be allowed.

Ewwwww. Today for the first time I ventured down into the depths of Cunningham Street.

The tacky Triple 8 Club was still open, but virtually empty. Also advertising its "Booty Bar". LOL

It was very brave of me but i took the plunge. It actually forks off, but the main street proper cirles into Pitt behind Roden Cutler, as mentioned.

Otherwise, it continues down into the sleaziest carpark, behind all the low-rise stores on the Gateway site at 720 George Street (earmarked for a 30 storey job).

Booty Bar :ohno:

Originally posted by museumb
Ewwwww. Today for the first time I ventured down into the depths of Cunningham Street.

The tacky Triple 8 Club was still open, but virtually empty. Also advertising its "Booty Bar". LOL

It was very brave of me but i took the plunge. It actually forks off, but the main street proper cirles into Pitt behind Roden Cutler, as mentioned.

Otherwise, it continues down into the sleaziest carpark, behind all the low-rise stores on the Gateway site at 720 George Street (earmarked for a 30 storey job).

Booty Bar :ohno:

Well if 720 George is developed then all those little shops should go, and Cunningham may become a repectable (if fairly dull) access way to that development as well - and hopefully less trashy/sleazy!

I am hopefull of the bar/bistro/gaming room of Aspect being at least a step above the current establishment - I'm pretty sure that with residents living on top of it and tourists staying above in the serviced apartments it will be!

A lllllloooot less trashy!! If you want to shoot a short film about street junkies who hang out at the Booty Bar for kicks, that is the place and now is the time!! :ohno: Venturing into that carpark was the worst Sydney CBD could offer. I couldn't beilieve it! :eek:

No wonder i've never been down Cunningham Street before! My first and last trip.

Today i called in the the Aspect sales office on Cuningham street.

I was infromed that sales of the apartments have now reached more than 30.

As of now, i was infromed that the promencement of construction will be now taking place in either Feb. March next year i.e. 2003 with the aniticpated completion date at the begining of 2005.

mb.

cool! mb. that means that there will be mass of cranes in that area in 2003. the masonic centre is about to start also village tower. so these are the bldgs uc in 2003 just on the immediate area>>

WORLD TOWER-230M
LATITUDE-190M
EAST TOWER-55M
CASSIA GARDEN-89M
VILLAGE TOWER-169M
MASONIC CENTRE-130M
114 LIVERPOOL ST-75M
ASPECT-136M

average height of 134m!!

..also let's not forget Seidler's North Apartments on Goulburn Street @ 55m above street level. In its construction, it is currently at about 5 levels above street level (in total North has 16 levels).

BTW CULWULLA I'm trying to think of what the 75m tower planned at 114 Liverpool Street is. :okay:

Culwulla, do you know how many cranes they will use at each site throughout the CBD? How many will we actually end up seeing as some sites will use more than one crane.

Once again i ask. What is the 75m planned for 114 Liverpool Street?

Museumb, the 75m/23st aprtment tower is the one next to Central Police Court opposite Monorail station. It suppose to start soon also! oops i forget harrys North.
fabian, i think most sites will have 1 crane each, but sometimes on larger sites a secondary crane is brought in to assist.


Incidentally! just on the Aspect. i was asked today by there architects to build there new model for our council display. They need a new model for there CC . So that will be great to see . ill have to check out if the east face has windows etc.
when i complete it ill post new pix of it.
cheers

See people ..... I told you all that 114 Liverpool St had its hoarding up ...... but they have been there for a while thou :)

Even though I have been fairly critical of the Aspect design, I am a total construction junkie, so I can't help but feel excited in reading the update on the number of apartments currently sold! Thanks for that museumb! More than 30 - that's about 1/3 of the apartments considering there is only 92!.

Another southern CBD tower a step closer to construction!

That area of the CBD is gonna be undergoing a rapid transformation in the next couple of years! :D

heres a pic of ASPECTS views looking north. doh! your talking about a 136m/42st bldg which is about height of Gold Coasts tallest at the moment. you have 200m walls infront of you and 100-150m either side! talk about density!!!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid38/p66a5bb4031cd1728bec92aa0a71a0559/fd12bdd0.jpg:)

Originally posted by CULWULLA
heres a pic of ASPECTS views looking north. doh! your talking about a 136m/42st bldg which is about height of Gold Coasts tallest at the moment. you have 200m walls infront of you and 100-150m either side! talk about density!!!


Well, at least they'll have nice views...of other towers! ;)

The "East" development across the road from them should provide a certain level of open-ness in the area though.

Yeah, it's pretty dense in that area but the views will nevertheless be amazing. What I like about it the most is how it finishes off the southern skyline just south of world square.

Will I be able to see it from Leichhardt ?
I think I will- it will sit nicely on the right hand side of Latitude, maybe slightly compromised by Sunlord tower, not sure.
Fab- have you got a pic from the inner west side of the model ?
Thanks.

The eastern blank facade of ASPECT might end up looking something like this! This is the side elevation of the lexington tower on Kent st.
note, the tiny windows.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid38/p6bfce94b674b1deb5789a5b32b0c250e/fd129547.jpg

I do have a picture of aspect from the "inner west"

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid35/pcf1108192e15277bc0d1a9dbed779e19/fd2f0c44.jpg

that gap there between roden cutler and sydney square was just filled today! the 112m /35st 720 george st was lodged!!:D

thanks Fab !
I thought the 136m Aspect tower would be a tad more prominant that what it looks....... oh well.

I think part of the problem there Spaz is that the land kinda slopes down towards Central.

Yeah, the land does slope away considerably as you head south.
I stared at Fab's pic for some time thinking "Fuck, this is TALLER than Santos House in Adelaide ?? "

25% of the 166 apartments in the 42 storey tower are sold to date.
The bottom 40% of the building will be serviced apartments managed by a four star hotel operator.

there's and 'article' on aspect tower including a coloured render looking from west. It's in today's (14th nov) SMH domain lift out.

just got given plans of ASPECT to quote for a model for council display! its now TALLER AT 138m high!!!! up from 136m at DA STAGE.
they will start on excavation in Jan2003.!

:D

Wow... cool stuff... almost all the new Sydney developments are growing by about 2 metres. :)

John Boyd at 188m,
Aspect at 138m,

Kinderlsey might go as high as 180m, up 2,

Latitude already went up from 188m to 190m,

the only one that went down by two was World Tower.

Poo on that. Hopefully Meriton are lying cheating bastards who will build to 235m anyway! :) :D

I saw the D/A for 720 George Street today and just checked the rendering for aspect. Pretty sweet.

Originally posted by Kay
Wow... cool stuff... almost all the new Sydney developments are growing by about 2 metres. :)

John Boyd at 188m,
Aspect at 138m,

Kinderlsey might go as high as 180m, up 2,

Latitude already went up from 188m to 190m,

the only one that went down by two was World Tower.

Poo on that. Hopefully Meriton are lying cheating bastards who will build to 235m anyway! :) :D

LOL- I like your logic ! :)

Originally posted by Kay
Wow... cool stuff... almost all the new Sydney developments are growing by about 2 metres. :)

John Boyd at 188m,
Aspect at 138m,

Kinderlsey might go as high as 180m, up 2,

Latitude already went up from 188m to 190m,

the only one that went down by two was World Tower.

Poo on that. Hopefully Meriton are lying cheating bastards who will build to 235m anyway! :) :D

Kinderlsey is guaranteed to be be 180 metres tall and could end up as a height limit tower of 235 metres. Lets hope that happens.

Thanks Spaz... but... what logic? :lol:

Well, actually, Kindersley was kinda mooted to be 178m originally... but then Culwulla said it can go to 180m. Of course, it can only go to 235m if it's residential I guess. Or if they get more space.

Yeah, I think you're onto something with the 2m thing- I love the logic you applied ! The concept has legs !

Don't forget that Culwulla ( wearing a stetson hat ) is exactly- you guessed it - 2 metres !!! :guns1:

LOL...

well, you know, that's me!!! :) ;) :lol:

But yeah... isn't it... 'interesting'... :)

I wonder what else we'll see..

we're already had like a few major developments go up by two... I wonder what it represents!

Gee, the latest issue of the local rag, The Inner Western Suberbs Courier has a full page add on Aspect. I'm sure the P.R. people are advertising in other local publications. The developers, Kindersley, must have cash to splash!!! $$$

Here are some projected interiors from the aspectliving.com site......IMO The 3 bedroom is the most tastefully decorated; so i'll take that one thankyou very muchly! ;)

The 1 bedroom:

http://www.aspectliving.com/images/oneBedroomInt.jpg


The 2 bedroom:

http://www.aspectliving.com/desirable/2_bed.jpg


The 3 bedroom:

http://www.aspectliving.com/images/twoBedroomInternal.jpg

The one bedder looks better than the two bedder in my opinion! If I had a choice though, I'd take the Mies Van De Rohe Barcelona chairs (in black or white) from the 2 bedder and move them into the 3 bedder. ;)

Or similarly, I could take them out of the lobby where Culwulla works and get the matching day bed too! :)

How about the super-imposed computer graphic painting on the wall in the 3 bedroomer? LOL. Doesn't even look like it's on the wall but jumpin' out right atcha - in 3D.....ummmm, no it looks very 2 dimensional....once again LOL....and again LOL.

BTW i think it is a painting of irises, or perhaps African violets (both are purple in colour). Nah, i'm sure it's a pic of African violets.....comin' right atcha!!

Maybe it's a yet-to-be-invented 3D LCD TV screen, you know, to make up for the lack of expansive views you'll get in this tower! :)

Perhaps the most bizzare 'aspect' of the 3 bedder is the hovering sun lounge out on the balcony. ;)

By the way, that blue and white striped plate, bowl, jug set is the first thing I'd throw down the garbage chute! *shudder* :)

LOL you ding-a-ling Tony P......but too true!

We've already paid our dues to this one, yet we're still in that kinda Aspect mood....uh-hah!! Just build the bloody thang...'coz we'za in that kinda mood ;) .

I'll take:

- The interesting topiary from the one-bedder balcony - it's the only plant I see in these images that isn't on the plasma screens! Of course with the exception of the sticks in vases displayed in the one and two-bedders ;)

- The Danish "Family Lamp" in the two-bedder suspended over the dining table (I've always liked those Scandinavian things ;)), and also the Barcelona chairs too ;)

And of course I'd put them in the 3 bedder! I'd also ditch the crockery and that strange white blob thing on the table in the corner near the irises/african violets!

Exremely insightful finn.

The danish-type lamp is very Paul Henningsen. He is a Dane whose ensemble designed many of the lamps/chandeliers for Crown Casino, Melb.

Another Henningsen original:

.................http://www.circa50.com/henningsenlamp.jpg

Like that one bedroom apartment. I'd feel pretty cosy in that one.

Well st least the insides of Aspect look reasonable. Don't know about the outside...

Me, I'll be happy in either the 1,2 or 3 bedder..;)

Aspect Tower's apartment component is now 40% sold with pre-commitmets with deposits or they have been sold outright.

A seviced apartment company still hasn't been decided upon yet for the floors covering the lower podium levels......

Construction is still expected to begin in Jan., Feb., next year i.e. 2003 with it expected to be completed sometime in 2005 around March or April.

The rep. in the sales office told me in regard to the large eastern blank wall, they're expecting another tower to be built almost next door to cover Aspect's huge blank wall; this can only be a good thing :) .

I havent yet seen any proposals for the CB Hotel site east of the blank wall of Aspect. I dont think it will ver be allowed to host a tower, being heritage listed!

Are serviced apartments becoming popular seeing that there are a number of proposed projects that will have serviced apartments like 101 Bathurst St?

Originally posted by Fabian
Are serviced apartments becoming popular seeing that there are a number of proposed projects that will have serviced apartments like 101 Bathurst St?

Apparently serviced apartments are the most popular accommodation style at the moment, while hotels have been languishing, because of the global tourism downturn.

Personally, I always like to stay in serviced apartments when I travel, simply because i can go to the supermarket buy some stuff, and make quick meals in the apartment, without having to pay for restaurant/cafe food whenever I'm hungry!

Also, they often have a washing machine for cleaning your clothes. :)

The CB structures along Pitt Street opposite Meriton's Mirimar could easily accommodate another tower covering Aspects 40 Storey blank wall. Even if the fronts of those low rise shops are used as facadism, this could quite be accepatable.

As long as they leave the 3 storey art deco CB buidlings along Goulbourn to Pitt Streets, then everthing sould be A.O.K..

..............................http://www.arch.usyd.edu.au/~afindlay/aspect01.jpg

Thanks for that info Finn.

You get more control about how you want to use the room that you're given at a reasonable cost.

A revised D/A has been lodged. We should be seeing a new model soon. Here are the details of the amendments to the D/A

*Changes to external architecture (eg: detailing and some changes to approved envelope)
*Changes to unit mix
*reduced on-site parking from 105 t0 90 spaces
*Various internal changes including revised floor levels.

The NSW Land and Environment Court acts as the consent authority for this development.

Spoke with the Aspect sales office about 1 hour ago today in Cunningham Street and now just over 40% of the 92 apartment available have now been commited to.

Towards the end of last year construction was considered to begin at the very latest Feb. '03. I was told now construction will now begin in March '03.

Let's pray that it won't be put back even further i.e. the beginning of its construction proceding.

I know it's been said many times before, but I came to the thread late...well, IMHO it's not terribly exciting. Just more bulk for the city. Wish the Gotham City design went ahead.

PS. Wasted opportunity is what I mean to say.

Oh, I really hope this one goes ahead without delay. Do you guys know whether the design revisions will take a long time to approve? If they're supposed to be building in 2 months' time it doesn't really leave a lot of time so I guess they must be counting on a quick process.

i'm outta the know is aspect that pic above? well whatever tower it is its very thin!

Called into the Aspect sales office this afternoon (Friday).

i was told out of the 90 apartments , 62 have been pre-commited to.

Quest will be running the serviced apartments at the base.

Work at this stage will be beginning in either the 2nd or 3rd week next month i.e March.

A reminding of aspect's rendering.......

http://www.aspectliving.com/images/aspect_external.jpg

Thanks for the update muse! That's 69% of the private apartments sold, and the serviced apartments spoken for!

I really am just so much happier with Aspect since they sorted out the eastern facade with some windows! To some it may sound trivial, but I think that a blank wall of that size with little chance of being built in front of (because of heritage listing of the building next door) would have been a huge shame.

Now, after seeing the model of the revised tower at Town Hall, I think of it as a welcome addition to the booming southern precinct (or "mid-town" as they call it in advertising for Latitude ;))!

So, in one month's time this will possibly be what's underconstuction in JUST a handful of blocks in the southern CBD !

230m World Tower
190m Latitude
152m Village
137m Lobana
135m Hilton redevelopment
130m Civic
89m Cassia Garden
62m Harmony
55m North

Others that I’m not sure about.....
Shorter Latitude Tower- height ?
Ultimo office project ( Quay St) - height ?
Emporio underway ? – height ?
Rex completed? - height ?
101 Bathurst? Timeline?
Honeymoon tower ? Height ?
Any others......?

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>So, in one month's time this will possibly be what's underconstuction in JUST a handful of blocks in the southern CBD !

230m World Tower
190m Latitude
152m Village
137m Lobana
135m Hilton redevelopment
130m Civic
89m Cassia Garden
62m Harmony
55m North

Others that I’m not sure about.....
Shorter Latitude Tower- height ?
Ultimo office project ( Quay St) - height ?
Emporio underway ? – height ?
Rex completed? - height ?
101 Bathurst? Timeline?
Honeymoon tower ? Height ?
Any others......?</td></tr>
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Hey spaz! Don't forget:

138m Aspect! ;)

yeah its quite amazing really! this list is amended. just for southern precinct only

20 towers!!!!!!!!!

UC
230m World Tower
190m Latitude
152m Village
137m Lobana
135m Hilton redevelopment
132m Civic
89m Cassia Garden
62m Harmony
55m North
50m Quadrant

about to start
138m Aspect
65m Common
50m East
55m Emporio

planned
150m x2 101 Bathurst st
113m 720 George st
90m 420 Pitt st (meritons next one)
45m 849 George st cnr harris st
45m Honeymoon tower

just about complete
80m Rex House



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Well, walked by the site yesterday and still no sign of commencement .... and we are now into the 3rd week of March :bleep: !!!

Even the sleazy Triple 888 gambling club/pub on the site is still operating with its neon half out of order "bzzzz, bzzzz" lol. Not even a "CLOSING SOON" sign on the window :| .

The model has also disappeared. I ventured by there on the way to the State library this morning and Culwulla discovered that someone had taken it. Hope he knows what has happened to it. I have seen it in person yet.

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its cool! its just being re-accessed because of its amended top!
It will be back soon!

Ammended top? Did I miss something?

Yeah, I think those wavy-ass strips at the top are being reviewed.

We did a shadow test on belmore and it now shadows!! due to new top! Word is now that its going to court so they have to amend top! this will obviously slow down the approval process! this is why it hasnt started yet!
If they stuck with same plant room as before it would of started already!!
:bleep:

So it will now be shorter than 136m ?

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its height is 138m, and it shouldnt come down at all, just shorten the LMR length southwards.

Sounds like the boys at the council are still smarting from their loss at the Land and Environment Court last time.

I like this developer!! Hope they mop the floor with the council.

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me too!:D

Explains why the council doesn't want this tower in the first place. Well good luck in their battle.

I walked past Aspect today and took this pic. Lots of people in and around the building when I was there including about 5 cars/vans from an engineering company and 2 'City of Sydney' marked vehicles.
The bloke in the sales office said it will start in April.
There is a fully fitted our apartment in the showroom which looks very nice !!

http://members.fortunecity.com/pistol2/ppppp24.jpg

wel, theres been a rather big design change yet again!! The plant room structure had to be altered due to sun access plane. So the new design has "removed" the wavy structures and replaced with a steel structure with architectural spire!!
Also the podium at entrance has had a amendment also. So a new model will have to be made and should be in 2 weeks!
when this is approved by council then it will proceed!

Height increase? :D


This tower is evolving into one more palatable by myself! I started off despising the building and have slowly come around to liking it as it has progressed on paper. I never went for the 'curvey things' so I'll be interested to see what the steel structure with spire looks like.

Thanks for the news Culwulla!

well plans have come in for Aspects new roof! its come down in height from 137m to 133m. but official height has gone from 137m to 140m due to a spire feature! i like the new design better. the wavy features are gone and its more stepped design with blade like structure with small spire at northern most part of roof! the model will be amended soon.

Cool Culwulla. Shame that this 133m tower ( to structural top) will be hard to pick down there in the depths of the southern CBD.
I always find it hard to beleive that a tower equal to the height of Santos in Adelaide is almost insignificant in the southern Sydney CBD.
If only the RL of that part of town was 20m higher !!!!!! :bash:

well heres a sneak preview of the new top. Its hard to make it out from this 2d plan but this is west elevation. As you can see the bulk of the top floors have been reduced due to overshadowing issues. the roof is 133m.The front blade is 2m wide x 4m wide. This holds the 13m spire which extends just 3m above the 137m height / total-140m

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/04/187457.jpg

Looks pretty good! :) Will be good to see the amended model and check-out the overall effect of the new top.

Hopefully this will be approved with no issue and we can look forward to seeing the construction get underway in the near future!

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yeah it should be pretty smooth sailing from now and they should get official ok this month so maybe May we will see some action!

Well not so fast! GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS!!!
The new design has had some issues with sun height plane, so they have had to redesign roof again!!! the back section of southern side of plantroom cuts thru height plane, so they have to redesign this to fit under height contral plane. This shouldnt take long and good news is the front section of the plant room can go up further in height and spire also. So maybe up from 140m to 150m+. we will have to see in next couple of weeks.
Apparently if the architects didnt change upper floors of the already approved DA, it would of been UC by now!!!
ah well they learn from there mistakes!
ill let you know when new design comes in!!

Another model on the way I guess. I don't think there is a point of me getting a shot of this one.

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no just top plant room has to be completely replaced with more angled structure! when i told them that the spire could go higher they seemed interested!!!!
;) the model will be amended soon.

well new design has come in. its nowhigher by 2m!!-now 142m to spire! .They have had to reduce each floor by 50mm to keep same amount of floors to abide by sun plane.
flloor to floor now 2.950m intead of 3.000m floors. this should get going soon and construction should start soon as approval has been granted!

They've "had to reduce each floor by 50mm to keep same amount of floors to abide by sun plane"????

Now if that isn't just the most useless, beaureucratic, inflexible "got-to-use-this-red-tape-somewhere" attitude ..

I know it's not you culwulla but seriously, what the hell difference is 5cm a floor going to make to anything? It's obviously just to comply "to the letter" in some stupid local ordnance. Thank god the developer isn't giving up and is just steadfastedly meeting even the most discouraging demands .. I can just imagine the much-harrassed developer's eyes turning skyward when he heard the news about the 5cm per floor reduction!

thanks for the updates everyone!

hk

hk-star, the measley 5cm per floor =totalled 3m over its full height which will give it approval!!!

heres a sneak peek at the new top! this is the west elevation. Notice the slant from spire to rear of bldg! this is the reason why it had to be redesigned!!! you can see the cut offs on plantroom ect. The new amendments wil go thru soon and construction will finally commence!!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/126aspectdiagramjun2003.jpg

This is what the Aspect sales office last told me in reagrd to the modifications -

The architects have done away with the waves @ the top, just above the Quest Serviced Apartments
& also the lower 3 side ribbings on the northenly aspect seen here in the original rendering:

http://www.aspectliving.com/images/aspect_external.jpg

The model is being adjusted for these changes isn't it?

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well of course! the modeel will have to be completely rebuilt, due to all floors being reduced in height. plus many changes at top! it should be done within this month!

You must hate rebuilding models.

Also it's turning into an ever ending sage regarding the design and the conflicts with councils. It has to end soon.

I scanned these floorplans for Museumb today. The unique floor plan allows for each unit to face a northerly aspect.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/06/195468.jpg
ghostly image of latest elevation (spire excluded)

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/06/195469.jpg

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>I scanned these floorplans for Museumb today. The unique floor plan allows for each unit to face a northerly aspect.

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It looks like they all have a westerly aspect.

they can see out the west view but all units are configured to north aspect.

I reckon the floorplan for apartment C looks pretty good!

In terms of solar access, you get the northely light into the living space as well as views of the sunset from the west, the east light in the bathrooms in the morning when you're in the shower, and the diffused southerly light into the bedrooms! That's quite ideal!

I also like the L-shape of Apt. C because it's like having two wings to the house - the living areas wing and the sleeping wing. That would make it seem larger I think, and is a practical layout!

Plus, Apt. C has three balconies, and views in all directions! :)

ASPECT is now known as QUEST ASPECT on CUNNINGHAM! LOL

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That name is too long. I'd rather have it known as Aspect. They should keep names simple.

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Quest is a brand name Fab. They are the managers of the serviced apartments.

Are Quest the developers of the entire development or do they just look after the serviced apartments?

BIG NEWS!!! Construction to start in 5 weeks!!
The amended Aspect tower was officially approved in court this week which paves way for CC and demolition of existing 2 storey bldgs to make way for the much anticipated ASPECT apartments!!
We have waited a while since they stuffed up with the new roof design back in January. The model will be amended next week so il post pix of new design then. its basically tyhe same except the roof now is steps down and has a spire reaching 142m high.
The project manager has told me today the demolishing starts in 5 weeks or early Sept!
yet another site to take pix of in the southern boom area in Goulburn st!

You beauty!!!!

I've been eagerly anticipating this one's go-ahead as it will provide a nice step-down between WT-Latitude and the short-ass towers further south. YES!!!!:guns1: :guns1: :guns1:

Just one question. How many basement levels are included in the proposal? I'm hoping we don't have to wait to long to see a core popping out above ground level although in all probability it's something like 8 or 10 basement floors, right?

Originally posted by MrTall
You beauty!!!!

I've been eagerly anticipating this one's go-ahead as it will provide a nice step-down between WT-Latitude and the short-ass towers further south. YES!!!!:guns1: :guns1: :guns1:

Just one question. How many basement levels are included in the proposal? I'm hoping we don't have to wait to long to see a core popping out above ground level although in all probability it's something like 8 or 10 basement floors, right?
just had a look at plans and the Aspect will have 8 basement levels and go down 19m below street level! This is going to one deep hole!! were lucky the existing bldgs are tiny, so wont take long to raze them!!

Originally posted by CULWULLA
BIG NEWS!!! Construction to start in 5 weeks!!
The amended Aspect tower was officially approved in court this week which paves way for CC and demolition of existing 2 storey bldgs to make way for the much anticipated ASPECT apartments!!
We have waited a while since they stuffed up with the new roof design back in January. The model will be amended next week so il post pix of new design then. its basically tyhe same except the roof now is steps down and has a spire reaching 142m high.
The project manager has told me today the demolishing starts in 5 weeks or early Sept!
yet another site to take pix of in the southern boom area in Goulburn st!

The Land and Environment Court are at it again. Will the council be appealing this verdict seeing they weren't so supportive of the development.

And I won't be surprised if the revised D/A appears in a revised edition of "Unwanted Legacies of the Land and Environment Court."

Originally posted by Fabian
The Land and Environment Court are at it again. Will the council be appealing this verdict seeing they weren't so supportive of the development.

And I won't be surprised if the revised D/A appears in a revised edition of "Unwanted Legacies of the Land and Environment Court."

Well personally, my biggest gripe about the original design for the tower (back when it was "Gotham City Apartments") was the big blank eastern wall - and that has now been fixed up with the addition of windows to that facade, so I'm pleased!

Most of the councils complaints were dealt with as well I believe, so I don't think they'll waste the ratepayers money on any additional appeals.

Regarding walls, I think provision of "blank" walls is a sensible design approach in certain situations where there is a probability of future development on adjacent sites (case in point is Cassia Gardens). Sure they don't look as good as a glazed facade but they do avoid future problems.

BTW, why the name change? I've noticed ads in the SMH for apartments in Redfern also called "Aspect" so I'm thinking maybe the name change was in response to the this other development.:?

Originally posted by MrTall
Regarding walls, I think provision of "blank" walls is a sensible design approach in certain situations where there is a probability of future development on adjacent sites (case in point is Cassia Gardens). Sure they don't look as good as a glazed facade but they do avoid future problems.

Yeah, but it is a really enormous blank wall! Anyway, I don't think they're actually opening view windows - more like galss brick panels to let light into bathrooms or something, and create a pattern and a bit of interest on the facade.

Besides, like you've said MrTall and as Culwulla has mentioned, there looks to be a proposal in the works for a new 40 storey tower over the adjacent CB Hotel anyway!

I thought these windows were going to be fake windows, but I'm happy to see that at last there will be windows. Thankyou Sydney City Council. *hugs mayor*

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Originally posted by Fabian
Are Quest the developers of the entire development or do they just look after the serviced apartments? As finn stated, quote "Quest is a brand name Fab. They are the managers of the serviced apartments."

The actual developer is Kimberley Securities Ltd and it has been listed on the Australian Stock Exchange sine 1969.

Quest are a 4 star serviced apartment operator and they will be operating 72 serviced apartments up to level 11 of Aspect.

The other Sydney CBD property they have serviced apartments in is Dixon 8 Apartments; 36 in total. A rendering even though completed:

__________http://www.questapartments.com.au/images/property/Dixon.jpg

BTW Good riddance to the sleazoid Triple 8 Lounge on Cunningham!! :wave: See ya NOT!

__http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3036/379triple8no1-med.jpg

new model top is in!
note that Aspect has worlds smallest spire!!! it protrudes only 2m above steel feature!
At 142m to tip, it could of easily of been 150-160m high. oh well.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/209249.jpg

full west elevation.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/209250.jpg

southern skyline. thhe tip of Aspects spire is Rl150m -equal to civic tower roof.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/209251.jpg

Aspect looks quite nice and it's design blends in quite well with surrounding scrapers.

Thanks CULWULLA for your model pic posts.

Can juuuuust see the "world's smallest spire" in your last model pic post
on the previous page of this thread:

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/209251.jpg

Cheers,
mb :)

The 'new' design is a bit funny! Maybe they wanted this one to blend with nearby 'Miramar'! ( the worst Meriton design ever hence a really bad role model!)

I found the initial Aspect design much cooler, slender and more dramatic! :mad: (I also remember the original Gotham proposal a few years ago - well before Aspect: it was even more 'needle-like' and was topped by a three level skyhouse featuring Japanese style indoor garden with bridges and waterfalls!)

It's nice. Looks like Chifley. And if the tip is only 2 metres you probably won't see it from street level.

regarding-worlds smallest spire!
i think i convinced Kimberley Securities project manager for Aspect, that the spire (worlds smallest) can go higher and he is going to enquire about extending! i told him did he realize that the spire can go thru sun plane?? he said after the 6 month long debacle with roof design, he was told it couldnt go higher than the angle which happens to be 142m above grd. , even though the spire looks ridiculous at 2m high above roof. i told him latitudes spire projects 32m thru sun plane, also the new 720 george st will have a wind spire also 30m above sun plane! So he said he will see council soon to extend spire 10-20m to look more balanced!! i told him planners wont have any problem due to the spire being architecural addition only! So looks like Aspect might get to 150m-160m +!! woohoo!another 150m/500footer for sydney!!

Richard you're legend! :)

If that spire is built you deserve a bottle of Macallan single malt - 25 years old!

:cheers:

Originally posted by CULWULLA
regarding-worlds smallest spire!
i think i convinced Kimberley Securities project manager for Aspect, that the spire (worlds smallest) can go higher and he is going to enquire about extending! i told him did he realize that the spire can go thru sun plane?? he said after the 6 month long debacle with roof design, he was told it couldnt go higher than the angle which happens to be 142m above grd. , even though the spire looks ridiculous at 2m high above roof. i told him latitudes spire projects 32m thru sun plane, also the new 720 george st will have a wind spire also 30m above sun plane! So he said he will see council soon to extend spire 10-20m to look more balanced!! i told him planners wont have any problem due to the spire being architecural addition only! So looks like Aspect might get to 150m-160m +!! woohoo!another 150m/500footer for sydney!!

Excellent job Cul. I hope they listen and do it. You virtually cannot even see it.

Was told by the publican of the Triple 888 bar/club 3 weeks ago that it will be closing in 2 weeks.

Well, low and behold last night I passed it and it looked pretty-well damned closed to me. Yippee!

I will miss you neon:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3036/379triple8no1-med.jpg

Very westie in nature. Lets bring in proper CBD neons to this part.

And the entire contents of the 888 Bar are to be auctioned off this coming Wednesday:

http://www.graysonline.com.au/sale.asp?SALE_ID=5805

The demiloshment is scheduled to start any day now!

view from 200m above site!!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/126aspectfrom74-med.jpg

It's a bloody time! Hope it won't be shelved again! :D

The pic from above is great except for revealing "Miramar" and "R Cutler" that freak me out whenever I see them! :rant: At least "Miramar" will be well hidden after Latitude, East and Aspect are complete! :D

Is "East" about to start soon too? That would be a dream come true - the World Sq site was almost vacant 5 years ago and may be complete by 2005! :)

Originally posted by AltiusAltiusAltius
It's a bloody time! Hope it won't be shelved again! :D

The pic from above is great except for revealing "Miramar" and "R Cutler" that freak me out whenever I see them! :rant: At least "Miramar" will be well hidden after Latitude, East and Aspect are complete! :D

Is "East" about to start soon too? That would be a dream come true - the World Sq site was almost vacant 5 years ago and may be complete by 2005! :)
no worries about Aspect. they just had a few "design" problems early in the year. It will still be completed by 2005.
East is set to start early next year apparently, and completed by late 2005.
I cant wait to stand in centre of piazza of World Square and look up to see Hordern, east, latitude and WT soaring skywards! that should make a great pic!

Have the architects decided to extend the spire or is the design final?

not sure. they will submit final drawings with Construction certificate any day now!

Well, I thought I'd better mention it since no one else has. I walked past the Aspect site yesterday and Muse's much beloved "Triple8" sign was gone and there was a general hum of activity going on. I don't think they've sent in the wrecking balls yet or whatever, but there were some dudes in hard hats looking like smug construction dudes always look like.

But yeah. Looks like it's finally starting.

Only noticed yesterday the wreckage going on. Boy am I getting excited at last.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid86/p70029cf0eca4c90f34e80cae116a7e58/faae8ed1.jpg

Whooooo. Great news!!! I cannot wait for this one to rise.

Originally posted by fro
I walked past the Aspect site yesterday and Muse's much beloved "Triple8" sign was gone..... Yes, it will sadly be missed - a symbol of sleazoid rat-trapping.

Yeah, get into the guts of it! Smash it!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379aspect1.jpg

Go Aspect! Hope the spire will be extended too!!
:cool: :cheers: :guns1:

The removal of the Triple 8 sign is a removal of westie influence on the CBD which the CBD doesn't need.

crush kill destroy!!

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/11/227781.jpg

Looks like were not the only folks who watch this one rise with the guy having a look.

Originally posted by Fabian
Looks like were not the only folks who watch this one rise with the guy having a look.
your not wrong! it was creating a bit of interest to anyone passing by!

Originally posted by CULWULLA
Crush, kill, destroy!!Indeed, with Lost in Space's robot during one of his psychocit (programmed moments thanks, or no thanks, to the evel Dr Zacherey Smith).

A bit of added humoruress moments to this thread:

http://www.culttvman.com/assets/images-IRWIN/JZrobot.jpg

I'd like to see him smashing the building. They would get more done with him.

Originally posted by Fabian
The removal of the Triple 8 sign is a removal of westie influence on the CBD which the CBD doesn't need. That's a matter of opinion Fab.

The most we can hope for a few small illuminated Quest signs, possibly at the base on Cunningham St., one visible for Goulborn Street and one at the top of the lower rise Quest sign @ the top of Aspect's base - as shown below. Don't expect any high-tech video screens, flashing neons ala Kings Cross or stock market tickers Fabian:

________________http://www.questapartments.com.au/images/logo.gif

I wish they had them Muse, but I wasn't anticipating them anyway. Save it for William St where it really belongs.

Fabain, you posted this on the 15/09 in regard to the now gone Triple 8 neon:Originally posted by Fabian
Very westie in nature. Lets bring in proper CBD neons to this part. "This part" doesn't mean William Street. You're contradicting yourself now.

Let me clarify this...

I would prefer seeing proper neons in this part of the CBD but this is not possible so William St should be the focus instead.

Originally posted by Fabian
Let me clarify this...I would prefer seeing proper neons in this part of the CBD but this is not possible so William St should be the focus instead. How do you know this? There are still some flashing neons in Sydney's main CBD proper.

Originally posted by Muse
How do you know this? There are still some flashing neons in Sydney's main CBD proper.

Where?

Originally posted by Fabian
Where?
is this the aspect thread or neon light thread?? puuulease!!

Originally posted by CULWULLA
is this the aspect thread or neon light thread?? puuulease!!

I'm asking Muse where the flashing neons are.

Neon signs have no reason in this thread. I suspect that this is Aspect.


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delta demolition are a good firm. they do most demolitions in Sydney.
After the small bldgs are gone then the hole will begin which will be bloody deep! 8 storeys or 25m!!

The way they have demolised the buildings is quite good, efficient and quick. the demolition of parts of the Latitude site were just as messy.

Originally posted by climbing_crane
Neon signs have no reason in this thread. I suspect that this is Aspect.Judge Judy of skyscrapercity.com?

It had very much to do with the Aspect thread as many of us city dwellers adore bright lights and it was on the site being demolished for the great Aspect Tower that we have waited soooooooooooooo long for.

Go back and read past pages in this thread and you'll realise it's long damn history along with Triple 8. Also Quest is going to be running the serviced apartment component (as the title of this thread indicates). Extremely relative.

Anyway, geat 'demolishment' pic climbing_crane :okay:

latest demolition shot - taken today

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid88/p438e7b834abac46910067ba5c3406c2e/fa92e519.jpg

Nice shot Fabian.

Cranes in action
Thanks for the updates
Just after the exams and already your out there roving around getting up dates!
Photos have been down a little last few weeks
Hope thats going to change soon !

I think the number of photo's posted has been average.

But it will explode tomorrow as everyone seeks a piece of the action from atop World Tower. I'd be interesting to see how the demolition is looking from up there.

Expect so Fab
as well as the Fab that Cause every one will be in city might get heaps of Street level shots of places like this
Oh I hope I have time to post mine before I go away

Pity you couldn't see it from WT. Oh well.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid89/p754a3624461de38fa8ccaed864ff93fa/fa83779c.jpg

Aspect yesterday afternoon

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid89/p49489390861c4bdb018d2fa67b2cdca7/fa83d3d4.jpg

Originally posted by Fabian
Aspect yesterday afternoon

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid89/p49489390861c4bdb018d2fa67b2cdca7/fa83d3d4.jpg

Nice detective work peoples. Looks like the hardcore diggers will be out in force on this site very soon. YAY!

In other news, has that BMW driver stopped at a public phone booth to make a phone call? What's wrong, his/her $1000 mobile not working?

Latest demolition image. The bulldozers are beginning to chew into the building next door.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid90/p2456c9b20633bb90167b5e4e495a921c/fa74d7ce.jpg

the bldg to the south actually stays! its not part of site. the walls to east still have to go so the laneway can be exposed. also bldg to north stays. So its actually a small site! It will go down 8 floors or 25m deep! deeeeep!!!

most sites in city today were quiet. no action what so ever!
this view will superb next year!

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/12/232640.jpg

It looks like these guys couldn't wait for December 19, so they decided to have an early start to the holidays. You are supposed to keeps us all entertained with your antics until then. Stupid bludgers!!!:bash:

I want a refund please

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid92/p703aa440f33ddfdd9d68f43cf0a55474/fa547bc0.jpg

official new height is in for the roof structure and spire-
it is still short of 150m mark, but just.
Its 146m to spire! up from 142m.
The roof blade below the spire is also 2m higher at 140m.

The spire RL is actually 154m, which is just over 500ft.

Some vans and trucks were parked out the front of the site today but no one was on site. However I did see a group of people eating on the steps of Sydney Central suggesting that the workers were on a lunchbreak.

Fabian, there were no workers on the Aspect site today. I just went into the Aspect web site and sent them a message asking them, besides a few other questions, when are they going to resume work.

Regardless, if they resume next week and OZScraper forumers spot this, even better. Otherwise if & when I receive a reply, I will let the interested parties via this thread know.

I went by the site and no one was on site. At this rate this is going to be the Sydney equvialent of Eureka where workers are always off site, meaning construction is delayed. :bash:

Yeah. Still none of the bludgers on site.

I got a return 'unable to deliver' email message BTW re my last post. Still the older render on the aspect web site too :(.

This and The Common have proven to be quite sagas in their own rights.

Wake me up when something happens. http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/sleep.gif

Originally posted by CULWULLA
official new height is in for the roof structure and spire-
it is still short of 150m mark, but just.
Its 146m to spire! up from 142m.
The roof blade below the spire is also 2m higher at 140m.

The spire RL is actually 154m, which is just over 500ft.
wow, i didnt realize i havent posted a pic of the amended final top of Aspect. anyway here it is. the spire just falls short of magic 150m mark. still a great addition to the southern skies!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/126finalaspecttop.jpg

as muse requested, its only top section of north elevation of latest design which is to be built.
the RL is over 500ft above sydney harbour!! 153.5m or 146m above Cunningham lane!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/126aspctnewfeb2004-med.jpg

Your line work is always so exact CULWULLA. Equidistant spacing to the 'T'.

What do the circled letters indicate? i.e. D, E & G?

Originally posted by Muse
Your line work is always so exact CULWULLA. Equidistant spacing to the 'T'.

What do the circled letters indicate? i.e. D, E & G?
the letters indicate materials such as glass,metal cladding ect.

The guys are back at work for 2004 and demolition and the clearing of the site continues.

I hope the photos are worth it because I got busted. Not really busted but I found a vacant level on level 9/69 Goulburn Street and I was taking pics for a few minutes and this guy gets out of the lift and tells me that security were watching me the whole time. I told him I was just getting pics of the construction sites and he just said in future if I want to come up to let them know. Fair enough. He even let me get a couple more pics after he caught me. Sweet.

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Still having a bludge??? I thought it was full steam ahead.

getting stuck into today!

http://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2004/02/245739.jpg

This one is still chuggling along at a very slow pace. I can barely notice the changes made since CC posted those photo's on Feb 12.

This site has become our own version of the construction of Melbourne's Eureka Tower, where the site falls idle and falls behind schedule.

This one is still chuggling along at a very slow pace. I can barely notice the changes made since CC posted those photo's on Feb 12.

This site has become our own version of the construction of Melbourne's Eureka Tower, where the site falls idle and falls behind schedule. At the rate were going, it will be winter, and they are probably clearing the site.

they were getting stuck into it today! not much left to demolish. next week should start diging!

http://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2004/03/248491.jpg

I went past the site at 8:40 this morning and there were two guys on site working, probably having a bit of a break. The pile of rubble as shown as Wednesday's picture by Cul, is still there waiting for a truck to collect it.

Work is getting more intense by the week. More equipment has appeared on site and signs stating what to demolish etc has appeared on the walls. You may not be able to see them due to the small image size.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid107/p6a2f30e7819c8faa7fe0e8a811654969/f95ebc82.jpg

Yay, there's no locked gate in that pic. Good stuff Fabian and nice image sizes.

^^^What climbing_crane posted^^^

Fabian, the image isn't too small. I passed the site earlier today, and the demolition is progressing fairly well as you've demostrated in your last pic post of the site :okay: .

All systems go-a-rama!!

gee? us skyscraper nuts are alot of impatient bastards!!lol
I thought i was impatient, you young guys take the cake!lol