The architect's who designed this, should have a design for a retractable roof.

I disagree. A retractable roof for this stadium would have compromised the strength of the design, IMO.

It looks like a huge cord coil to keep all together.

Our stadium's gonna be better :lol:

Thom, just though I'd mention, Delft is a beautiful place, I went when I was 11, it actually reminded me a lot of britain...

Our stadium's gonna be better :lol:

Be prepared for a disappointment then. London's one won't even have a roof.

Our stadium's gonna be better :lol:

Thom, just though I'd mention, Delft is a beautiful place, I went when I was 11, it actually reminded me a lot of britain...

After the news London's Olympics is going to cost a lot more than realized, either it's not going to turn out like you expect or you're going to go through economic depression like previous host cities.

The architect's who designed this, should have a design for a retractable roof.

The reason why the Bird's Nest won't have a roof like originally designed is because after some of the architect's designing for Beijing have had disasters recently with their buildings in Europe. Eliminating the roof was just a precautionary measure to relieve unnecessary weight on the structure.

what will the seating capacity of this stadium be?

what will the seating capacity of this stadium be?

100K

nope
it will be 91.000 and after the games 80.000

100K

100K?? No !! 91,000!!
try visit at http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/future_stadiums.shtml

www.sercan.de that's right!! :)

Has anybody found new photo's of the Beijing Stadium.

100K?? No !! 91,000!!
try visit at http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/future_stadiums.shtml

www.sercan.de that's right!! :)

you can call me Sercan :D

But why they want to remove 11.000 seats and from where?

you can call me Sercan :D

But why they want to remove 11.000 seats and from where?

I unknow...!! Sorry :dunno:
I think...VIP maybe!!

After the news London's Olympics is going to cost a lot more than realized, either it's not going to turn out like you expect or you're going to go through economic depression like previous host cities.

A couple of billion ain't gonna send London into an economic depression.

A couple of billion ain't gonna send London into an economic depression.

Well if it wasn't a problem then it wouldn't have been a story. Besides I heard it was the other option on how it was going to be handled. London is going to have to cut from what was promoted.

you can call me Sercan :D

But why they want to remove 11.000 seats and from where?

I've got no idea and why.

i have a newest "Bird Nest" pic in my gallery, but i dont know how to send it 2 this forum...

you can upload it here
http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/

Hmm I wonder where the cauldron will be at and how they are going to lit it this time.

Hey guys, did some of you have a video or pls post in youtube..
the olympic passover to beijing in athens 2004 olympics..?
hehe loved the performance as far as i can remember.. hehe it is soo red.. lolz..
wahh BEIJING 2008!


Yah here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPWY9b4HM_I&mode=related&search=

The bird nest used to have a roof in its original design, but later cancelled due to cost issue. Supposely the stadium will be finished 1 year ahead of the game, that is, this Auguest, but I think that schedule may get delayed.

London is going to have to cut from what was promoted.

Just as every other Olympic host city has had to. Beijing promised a whole lot more than what we are getting, so did Athens and Sydney. You can't build a bid that wins an Olympic Games and expect to stick to every detail in that bid; costs rise, budgets are set and unexpected problems arise over the seven years of building an Olympic Games.

You live in clock cuckoo land if you expect everything to go to plan.

Some updates

Bird's Nest

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/522613210_ac60d36735.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/243/522621995_487edf9376.jpg

http://belkblog.typepad.com/belkblog/042707_1542_TechUpdateJ7.jpg

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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/254/461239353_afe488a719.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/186/461239341_81418d2b9c.jpg?v=0


Water Cube

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/199/463714674_63f92b8709.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/168/463714393_51b4bddbc4.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/463713449_3de0503b42.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/188/463713184_e7c4255fe2.jpg?v=0

Look this image, It's interesting
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5512518,00.jpg

Bird's Nest and Water cube finished!! :applause: :applause: :applause:

Looks like a bird's nest and a mattress, but interesting. The spaces in between will make it lively.

^^I think the Mattress is the new nickname of the aqua stadium. :lol:

Just as every other Olympic host city has had to. Beijing promised a whole lot more than what we are getting, so did Athens and Sydney. You can't build a bid that wins an Olympic Games and expect to stick to every detail in that bid; costs rise, budgets are set and unexpected problems arise over the seven years of building an Olympic Games.

You live in clock cuckoo land if you expect everything to go to plan.

Just like your Olympic Logo which is worth 400,000 pounds and it does not even look good :lol: Sorry for the sarcasm but I can't stop laughing at the Goatse Logo in BBC :lol: :nuts: :lol: :nuts: :lol: :nuts: :lol: :nuts: :lol: :nuts: :lol: :nuts: :lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Proposal11x1.jpg

http://fotoearth.com/Beijing2008/1.jpg
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Tianjing

http://fotoearth.com/Beijing2008/19.jpg
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The structure is amazing, but what is it made of (bird's nest) any idea.

Originally Posted by jhae
Hey guys, did some of you have a video or pls post in youtube..
the olympic passover to beijing in athens 2004 olympics..?
hehe loved the performance as far as i can remember.. hehe it is soo red.. lolz..
wahh BEIJING 2008!

Oh do you, I think the lap dances are rather stupid :ohno:

The Water Cube looked so much better in the original renders.

Just looks a bit tacky IMO. Maybe it will be better at night, with good lighting.

Just as every other Olympic host city has had to. Beijing promised a whole lot more than what we are getting, so did Athens and Sydney. You can't build a bid that wins an Olympic Games and expect to stick to every detail in that bid; costs rise, budgets are set and unexpected problems arise over the seven years of building an Olympic Games.

You live in clock cuckoo land if you expect everything to go to plan.

Put London aside (since we don't know yet) I think Beijing follow the plan very close to the detail, all I can think of is the huge TV wall and the roof. But all others come out look 100% like the design (remember half of the people here don't think the water cube will look good) The Sydney's one was good too btw. it come out just like everything they say...

Just as every other Olympic host city has had to. Beijing promised a whole lot more than what we are getting, so did Athens and Sydney. You can't build a bid that wins an Olympic Games and expect to stick to every detail in that bid; costs rise, budgets are set and unexpected problems arise over the seven years of building an Olympic Games.

You live in clock cuckoo land if you expect everything to go to plan.

Did I say anything of the sort? It's you hooligans that come in this thread bringing the stink. Go to your own thread and express your envy there. Just like when you guys came in here bringing the stink when you won the 2012 games but all of the sudden disappeared when the whole budget story broke. Now the hooligans are building up their courage again bringing the stink as usual but quickly disappeared. I wonder why. Maybe they were all having epileptic seizures.

Just as every other Olympic host city has had to. Beijing promised a whole lot more than what we are getting, so did Athens and Sydney. You can't build a bid that wins an Olympic Games and expect to stick to every detail in that bid; costs rise, budgets are set and unexpected problems arise over the seven years of building an Olympic Games.

You live in clock cuckoo land if you expect everything to go to plan.

You are 100% wright.

Take London for example, the expected figure has shot up 3 to 4 times from the original quote. You can not budget for something seven years down the road at today's costing.

ETFE (Ethylene TetrafluoroEthylene) material is so good in construction. Water cube is beautiful.

Water cube is so beatiful

so big!

look at the shadows inside the stadium
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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/314D0BE0-11BC-4475-BC0D-140FBBB34A5C.htm

Those shadows have to be very frustrating for the atheletes

Those shadows have to be very frustrating for the atheletes

http://www.danda.be/files/thumbnail.php?img=data/reviews/96/5.jpg&w=600&h=600&mode=1

Seen from inside, Bird's nest stadium is imposing.

Oh no, the shadow is terrible. How could anyone see anything?

^^Didn't you guys see the pic bluga posted?
That render suggests there will be a shield under the beams.

The picture looks nice, shame about the shadows. The organisers, architect's and the builders should have something in place as a shield or some sort of a cover.

i'll judge london's olympics when it's hosted in 2012,until then(and who cares about what it cost's it the legacy it leaves thats important).I think bejing will host a very good olympics looking forward to seeing it on tv though lol.

The picture looks nice, shame about the shadows. The organisers, architect's and the builders should have something in place as a shield or some sort of a cover.

see bluga post they gonna cover it.

Oh no, the shadow is terrible. How could anyone see anything?

shadow will be eliminate by bright lights in the stadium

A second layer of ETFE membrane will prevent the shadow issue. It will almost form a sort of insulation against heat, will minimize shadows and minimize noise pollution, I am actually not sure about it reducing shadows but i do hope so

Actually if they're going to install that inner membrane like depicted, most of the sunlight will be diffused and might be more pleasant than the sun coming down in the center. I wonder if they can use the membrane to project images on it. The opening ceremony would look spectacular with that use.

A second layer of ETFE membrane will prevent any shadows coming through.

Their are rumours of changing the London Olympics LOGO.

London Olympics
Rumours of new LOGO for Olympics
Ken Livingstone (Mayor of London) "logo will grow on you"

SHADOWS
:bash: WTF... have you guys been reading the thread??
the stadium "BIRDS NEST" will be covered with the same cushions like whats on the WATER CUBE the same ETFE cushions but i think more of fabric layer rather than inflated...

http://www.mcgill.ca/files/architecture/BiomimicrySSEFessay2007.pdf
:)
there are many articles on the WEB SAYING So....
i wouldn't think that they( the architects would regret that if so its an olympic stadium to think of!! common!!!!

Sorry, not a rumour.

Their is a new LOGO for the LONDON OLYMPICS.

who sanctioned the damn childish logo?

BBC news today, interviewed an official of some sort about the logo, and she said the logo is to stay and they won't be changing it.

BBC news today, interviewed an official of some sort about the logo, and she said the logo is to stay and they won't be changing it.

A British friend of mine who works for LOCOG had told me the same thing that there was not a possibility of changing the logo so I guess they won't be changing it after all! Oh well....

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Wow that looks great.
I love how the steel beams are glowing in the sun.

Just a shame that this thread isnt in the "sports arenas" section where all the stadium fanatics hang around.

ETFE is all the rage...allianz, beijing, water cube, cape town......all use ETFE

Didn't realize that its shape looked so similar to the Saddledome. Does anybody know what the torch will look like and/or where it'll be placed?

Assortment of pics (some fairly old)

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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!....Viva Beijing...... Wo Hen Ai ni.......!!!!!!

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Imposing

The picture looks nice, shame about the shadows. The organisers, architect's and the builders should have something in place as a shield or some sort of a cover.

Yes, would be realy great to have some sort of shield as a cover. The shadows are realy disturbing.

http://www.sinaimg.cn/dy/c/p/2007-06-15/U1565P1T1D13236701F21DT20070615101435.jpg

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Such a perfect building. An Icon for the 21st Century Sporting

yes, really wonderfull

Internally it still looks like the stadium has 6 months work to do, so it's still a little way off being finished.

Have you seen the newly revised website for the 2008 Beijing Olympics? It has some contruction pics of other venues besides the Bird's Nest and the Water Cube.

http://en.beijing2008.cn/en.shtml

Wow that looks great.
I love how the steel beams are glowing in the sun.

Just a shame that this thread isnt in the "sports arenas" section where all the stadium fanatics hang around.

Yes, it looks great glowing in the sun, from the distance. But the picture looks totally different when you look closer.

please watch this.

jGwDz5KkfmQ

Wow! i love this stadium!

looks awesome! :okay:

This is the most beautiful stadium!

Herzog-Meuron ROCKS!

please watch this.

jGwDz5KkfmQ

Yes, will they finish.

Yes, will they finish.


Can somebody please tell me what is the progress of the Bird's Nest, how far has it reached, will it be ready in time, I don't think their is much time left.

What makes you think it will not be finished in time. There are just some interiors work left. Mar. 2008 they will finish everything.
There will also be a sports event before olympics in that to test everything.

That's fantastic, if they can do it.

i fly into beijing in 5 days so ill try to take some updated pictures if anyone cares

i fly into beijing in 5 days so ill try to take some updated pictures in anyone cares

That would be good.

That's fantastic, if they can do it.

No doubt about that , believe in China... :)

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Beijing Olympic ping pong venue on fire
By Alice Gu 2007-7-2

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AN indoor gymnasium that is under construction to hold table tennis matches of the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games is on fire, Xinhua news agency reported.

No casualty has been reported from the accident which happened at about 8:14am on the campus of Beijing University, where the venue is.

Seventeen fire engines have been dispatched to the scene, Xinhua said.

The gym, covering 26,900 square meters, is designed to host 8,000 spectators. The construction began in September, 2005, and is expected to be finished next month.

It is due to host an Olympic test event in December.

outsch ... bad news :/

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Looks like the damage was serious enough to omit the Table Tennis events of the 2008 Olympics.

http://www.sinaimg.cn/dy/c/p/2007-07-03/U1043P1T1D13362694F21DT20070703081741.jpg

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^^ The lightings are not that impressive but I'm sure it is just a partial test.
For that Ping Pong stadium, I hope they are ok for the Olympics.

^^ lucky still have a full year to go, they and fix it in no time... seems like they light up the Olympic fire little too early..hehee :)

I'm overwhelmed by seeing those pictures!!!!!!!!!!^^

surlin :)

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Is that venue completed? If so, then I still need to know what it's exact location is.

^^ it's completed ahead of schedule. It's located in Shenyang, Liaoning province and it's supposed to hold one group of the Olympics soccer games.

^^ it's completed ahead of schedule. It's located in Shenyang, Liaoning province and it's supposed to hold one group of the Olympics soccer games.

I was asking what district of Shenyang this stadium is located in.

the bird's nest is looking good........
hope they finished the repairing in time...........

The Shenyang Stadium is built on where Wulihe Stadium was demolished not too long ago right?

Amazing...

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wow wow wow :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: ...very very beautiful the stadium in shenyang!!! :master: :master: :master: I Love love love it!! :applause: :applause: :applause:

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/patarapong/1.jpg

Beijing Olympic ping pong venue on fire
By Alice Gu 2007-7-2

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/patarapong/2.jpg

AN indoor gymnasium that is under construction to hold table tennis matches of the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games is on fire, Xinhua news agency reported.

No casualty has been reported from the accident which happened at about 8:14am on the campus of Beijing University, where the venue is.

Seventeen fire engines have been dispatched to the scene, Xinhua said.

The gym, covering 26,900 square meters, is designed to host 8,000 spectators. The construction began in September, 2005, and is expected to be finished next month.

It is due to host an Olympic test event in December.

what was happen?? what wrong??

Wow... nice venues!!! definitly the best summer olimpics will be here! i´m sorry about the ping pong venue... but i still believe it will be finished for next year :D

what was happen?? what wrong??
I hear it's a welding accident.

OMG !!! ShenYang's stadium is superb .. great!!

The Shenyang Stadium is built on where Wulihe Stadium was demolished not too long ago right?

Amazing...

No it's not built on the same site of Wulihe Stadium. It's located on a very different site.

Tianjin Olympics Stadium. It's in final touch now. Prepare for the Women World cup and Olympics

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^^ AMAZIN!!!! Absolutely beautiful!!! Good work General Huo!!

^^ Wow, I see awesome stadium!

Pictures of the Olympic stadium in Beijing, taken 11/07/07. Sorry about the small size the internet in Beijing is not as quick as in the U.K.



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thanks for the updates

The Tianjin Olympics Stadium looks awesome! I expect hardly anyone on these forums even knew about it.

the best stadium yet!

Looks good, although if this only hosts football why have they built an athletics track around the pitch?

^^ It is not exclusive for 2008 right? ;)

About the Tabletennis venue for 2008:
I've heard there's no real serious damage to the main frames and metal work, so it will definately be finished before the olympics start.

great update, the stadium looks so fantastic!

wow, tianjin stadium surprised me
what is the capacity. looks in the 65-75 k range

if it were in europe, surely will be a top tier stadium, even a 5 star UEFA stadium, sorry for the athletic track

wow!

i didnt like this building at first but i saw it in real life and it looked a lot better than on the web.

Tianjin Stadium


I like this stadium a lot!!!! Good work!!!

^^ whats the other percent?

CHINA has many magnificent stadiums...can easily fit olympics in any stadium...the bird nest is my favourite but other stadiums are also nice...albeit much nicer than other countries best stadium...

china is blessed

ha ha

You sound like you should work for the propaganda ministry.

You sound sensitive or is it insecure.

ssangyongs, thank you for the postive comment about China's stadium, but i think comparison is not desired in this thread, I believe every country has its own magnificent structures. Please next time don't bring up any comparison.

Thank you

CHINA has many magnificent stadiums...can easily fit olympics in any stadium...the bird nest is my favourite but other stadiums are also nice...albeit much nicer than other countries best stadium...

china is blessed

I agree the Bird's Nest is one of the most beautiful buildings ever constructed!

CHINA has many magnificent stadiums...can easily fit olympics in any stadium...the bird nest is my favourite but other stadiums are also nice...albeit much nicer than other countries best stadium...

china is blessed

thank you for your kind words:pet:

Those stadiums are very impressive !:)

thank you for your kind words:pet:
He's right though, what Zhongguo is doing to do in Beijing 2008 will most likely not be done better by other nations in the near future olympic games (i.e. London 2012)!

I would love to come to Beijing coming year, I'm going to study Chinese next schoolyear and I would hate to miss such a great event.

Looks good, although if this only hosts football why have they built an athletics track around the pitch?

So it can be used for track and field for local or international events. One event stadium is a waste of money. Toronto's Skydome - now Rogers dome- can only be used for football and baseball. If Toronto won the Olympic bid against Beijing, Toronto would have to built another stadium to accommodate track and field.

I love Beijing! Was there for my fourth time last week, nice new developments, just a shame they knocked down some of the old buildings like Houtongs. Nice and green though.:)

So it can be used for track and field for local or international events. One event stadium is a waste of money. Toronto's Skydome - now Rogers dome- can only be used for football and baseball. If Toronto won the Olympic bid against Beijing, Toronto would have to built another stadium to accommodate track and field.

Well this isn't the main Olympic Stadium, how many times is this going to be used for International Athletics? I thought it would have made sense to use this as a purpose built football stadium for use for a future World Cup bid.

^^ I think that might be the cultural difference. Even Chinese soccer league is not held in soccer stadium but in complete stadium with track and field. We do not have many stadiums only for soccer after all. This is totally different in UK from what I see in premier league.
I think this is due to full stadiums are cost effective and soccer leagues are not popular in China compared to say UK.

About the Wukesong Baseball Fields, there was a report about the Good Luck Beijing baseball tournament on the Beijing 2008 website saying that there will be 1,000 permanent seats. i though nothing was to be left of the Baseball fields after the Games. What should we do, remove the secondary competition field and the practice field?

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http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2007-7/2007720044141386.jpg

http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2007-7/2007720061721900.jpg
photo by cobble

nice picture

still no trees yet!!

The stadium looks like a big bird arche

Amazing Pictures, Now hopefully they will be clearing out obstructions for us to observe the full splendor of the Bird's Nest.

http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2007-6/20076514444808.jpg

http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2007-7/20077250515378536.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1179/891483458_a9d0d06873.jpg?v=0
photo by cobble and myuibe

I can't grow to love the pool building, I'm tryin.. I just don't get it.

The Bird's nest though, I'm in love.. lol, (never thought I'd say that about a structure!) its the most amazing stadium I've ever seen, if I were rich enough, I'd have my own built outside of my house to look at it every day.

(might be cheaper for me to just move to Bejing mind, lol)

:runaway: Wow
the bird nest is out of the world

iconic, yes. recognized forever, yes. unique, yes

but I can't bring myself to call it beautiful, and the bowl seems just ok.

And I hope London doesn't try to be as out there. I'd rather a nice stadium be built along with the goals that the IOC claim to be all about.

iconic, yes. recognized forever, yes. unique, yes

but I can't bring myself to call it beautiful, and the bowl seems just ok..



I actually find the 'birds nest' very beautiful. Initally I liked the conceptual design of the aquatic centre, but seeing the photos people have posted, I like it even more! In fact I am really impressed with the structure that is now taking form.

And I hope London doesn't try to be as out there. I'd rather a nice stadium be built along with the goals that the IOC claim to be all about.

Really? What's wrong with creating something unique, iconic, memorable? I'm not just talking about physicality. I've been reading a lot of literature regarding these Games and already people are coining it the 'Green Games' . Basically a reference to how the Beijing games are a template for future games in sustainability and environmental impact.

Why settle for 'nice'...

I love the stadium, but the watercube seems weird in daylight. (please don't kill me for saying this!)
Explaining: It's unique, and I bet with lights, at night, it will have a wonderful effect. But it looks too fake, too plastic, as if it's not a permanent building.
It is, anyway, better than just a swimming pool in a building... It'll look great in the Olympics.
I just wish my country inspired more in the Chinese success than copying others' failures! (I mean the Pan-Am Games in Rio)

I also like the watercube but it looks very "Plasticky", & seems very hard to maintain. Anyway, with proper lighting and visual enhancement the watercube will look fantastic. :)

etfe the the aquatic centre material is easy to maintain..thats exactly why its used..apart from its other good properties.

I think all the talk about the Aquatic centre being 'plastic' or 'fake' is just a reaction to people not being used to hi-tech materials such as ETFE being used as a building component! Basically 'the Shock of the New'!!! so to speak...

Unfortunately, over here, the only widely accepted materials are stone, brick, timber and glass. Steel and concrete to a much lesser extent - people are STILL suspicious of these materials!

I don't think this is the case in other countries. The UK, for the most part is unfortunately a terribly reactionary country. Forever harking back to a Georgian/Arts & Craft era that never was. How sad.

Incredible stadium!

Great projects! I want to see all these stadiums in action during the 2008 games!

The Water Cube's material gives me a feeling like the cover of the MacBook (not pro), some people love it, but I have to say it is kind of cheap. I never understood why Apple made the macbook cover so "cheap" looking/touching.
Yes, you may argue they are actually more expensive but nothing changes the cheap feelings they give.

there is one year left
Come on
CHINESE:banana:

A update panorama pic for the famous stadiums - Water Cube and Bird Nest >>>

http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07324/jhjhg.JPG

The countdown board

http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07324/ddgr.png

The UK, for the most part is unfortunately a terribly reactionary country. Forever harking back to a Georgian/Arts & Craft era that never was. How sad.

The UK has EFTE buildings. In fact we pioneered it.

Eden Project:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/EdenProject2005-07-30.jpg/800px-EdenProject2005-07-30.jpg

Southend University:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/essex/content/images/2007/03/06/southend_university_203_203x152.jpg

http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2007-6/20076514444808.jpg

http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2007-7/20077250515378536.jpg

photo by cobble and myuibe

just amazing!

DarJoLe;14705225]The UK has EFTE buildings. In fact we pioneered it.


I'm not disputing that, but the fact is that the overwhelming majority of people in the UK are resistant to change. I'm glad that we have world leading architects who are not afraid to push the 'boundaries', but unfortunately, the public are not, in general, supportive of this. That is why there is a negative attitude and perception towards architects in the UK, that is not by and large representative abroad.

there are two avenues are completed and accepted
Shunyi Olympic Rowing-Canoeing Park(Beijing)
http://img1.qq.com/2008/pics/5115/5115706.jpg
http://s4.album.sina.com.cn/pic_3/47420b9302001723
http://s8.album.sina.com.cn/pic/47420b930200172v
and
Beijing Shooting Range Hall(Beijing)
http://www.pladaily.com.cn/site1/images/2007-03/27/xin_30030427092151811778.JPG
http://images.beijing2008.cn/20070728/Img214115817.jpg
http://images.beijing2008.cn/20070724/Img214114013.jpg
http://images.beijing2008.cn/20070728/Img214116031.jpg

Does anyone in Beijing live here? If so, do you notice if Beijing is trying to address to pollution situation permanently (scrubbers on factories, planting trees, transport system, etc.)

I've heard that they're going to shut down traffic and factories a couple of weeks before the olympics... but what about long term solutions for after the olympics?

^^ Trust me, it is not like Chinese people enjoy living in polluted cities. But all these need time to improve. Chinese gov't keep making effort to reduce pollution but I guess everyone knows at this fast growth stage, Chinese pollution problem will continue for years ahead before eventually get improved.

Anyone aware of this CNN special for 1 year countdown of Beijing Olympic games?

Homepage:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2007/countdown.to.beijing/

All videos
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/08/09/countdown.beijing.videos/index.html

I'm not disputing that, but the fact is that the overwhelming majority of people in the UK are resistant to change. I'm glad that we have world leading architects who are not afraid to push the 'boundaries', but unfortunately, the public are not, in general, supportive of this. That is why there is a negative attitude and perception towards architects in the UK, that is not by and large representative abroad.

I think both of you are right to some extent... The British population (personal opinion) are quite often against ultramodern or daring developments. Or perhaps I should say, there is often a hell of alot of contraversy surrounding such developments. However, that said, most of London's biggest icons are major daring architectural desings such as the gherkin, lloyds, wembley, london eye etc. etc. They hate the idea, but love and embrace the reality.

I think it's petty and useless how people are constantly trying to compare Beijing and London (especially considering most is based on personal bias). Apples and oranges people. Both will have their pros and cons, but maybe wait until London release some final designs until you get on your bandwagon...

Sorry, didn't mean to to take this thread off topic. I think Beijing will be absolutely spectacular and completely different from any other olympic games previous. Bring it on!

Wow...Beijing has all it takes to host a wonderful olympic games.

Good luck beijing.

http://www.sinaimg.cn/dy/c/2007-08-11/U2117P1T1D13642648F21DT20070811145200.jpg

there are several new stadiums are complete yet

All these projects are amazing. I hope the improvement of environmental quality (and civil liberties) continues.

this will be one of the best olympic games for sure!!!:D

I think the best Olympic games should be in 2010 Canada,Vancouver winnter games! It should be the best winnter games in the all history for sure!:lol: :baeh3:


Go Canada! whoo :)

I think the best Olympic games should be in 2010 Canada,Vancouver winnter games! It should be the best winnter games in the all history for sure!:lol: :baeh3:


Go Canada! whoo :)

Huh?? I dont like winter games!! so boring!! sorry!!

Every thing is cool man, i just love to joke and think some people is angry at me...etc. sorry for that! :)

Does anybody remember "the hole" at the Olympic Stadium in Athens? Well, is Beijing doing it again?
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1301/846060745_9ccf888628_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1249/846048803_dde649b9b3_o.jpg

some new pics from Beijingupdates
http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2007-8/20078258353153123.jpg
http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2007-8/20078258442799293.jpg
http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2007-8/20078258455799174.jpg
:banana:

Wow....a clear sky...and the watercube actually looks great there...GO BEIJING!!!

http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2007-8/20078299532441182.jpg
http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2007-8/200782922474028859.jpg

A little less than a year left, I hope they get it constructed quickly!

A little less than a year left, I hope they get it constructed quickly!



They will. They were actually way ahead, their intended target was to finish everything a year earlier but IOC told the Chinese to slow down on their construction because the olympic venues would just be sitting there wasting money.

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great !!! Go China Go.

Does anybody remember "the hole" at the Olympic Stadium in Athens? Well, is Beijing doing it again?
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1301/846060745_9ccf888628_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1249/846048803_dde649b9b3_o.jpg

What function will it have?

^^
To bring up a Ferrari with Paris Hilton driving in it and Miss Teen South Carolina as her passenger. :lol: J/K

^^
To bring up a Ferrari with Paris Hilton driving in it and Miss Teen South Carolina as her passenger. :lol: J/K
Miss Teen South Carolina wouldn't know where she is.

Is there a function to the hole other than hiding performers?

wow the stadium looks good , i hope this would be the best ever olympic

^^
To bring up a Ferrari with Paris Hilton driving in it and Miss Teen South Carolina as her passenger. :lol: J/K

I don't get it. :hahano:

I don't get it. :hahano:

A big round elevator.

Miss Teen South Carolina wouldn't know where she is.

Is there a function to the hole other than hiding performers?


Yah, instead of using water like Athens, the Chinese will use fire to turn the stadium red to bring out the "Chinese" in the games. This will be an Olympic like no other, and the fire will be used to make Peking duck for all its audiences! :lol:

and Miss Teen South Carolina as her passenger. :lol: J/K

Such as

Such as
:?

What's the stadium expected to be used for after the Games?

:?

0:29

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hmmm.... why does this Olympic thread suddely become a beauty contest thread ?

hmmm.... why does this Olympic thread suddely become a beauty contest thread ?

Well... Some say the stadium is beautiful, others say it isn't.

^^
To bring up a Ferrari with Paris Hilton driving in it and Miss Teen South Carolina as her passenger. :lol: J/K

:lol: This is one of the funniest posts here.

Anyway, the stadium and the the aquatic center looks great.

Yah, instead of using water like Athens, the Chinese will use fire to turn the stadium red to bring out the "Chinese" in the games. This will be an Olympic like no other, and the fire will be used to make Peking duck for all its audiences! :lol:
Yes, I envision the unleashing of:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40198000/jpg/_40198050_ducks_afp.jpg

over:

http://www.yorktownsquare.com/photos/arX00022_9.jpeg

Anyhow, the water cube is looking great. I am impressed at how close to the renders it looks -- almost unreal in some shots. What if some hooligan decided to slash or burn the facade though?

^^ btw. they just free Eric Robert Rudolph (the Atlanta Olympic Park Bomber) ...LOL

^^ btw. they just free Eric Robert Rudolph (the Atlanta Olympic Park Bomber) ...LOL
I'd assume China's fair safe from terrorism, given the efficiency of their censorship and national security apparatus. If they can keep out journalists, Rudolph won't be a challenge. :lol:

I was wondering about the facade because isn't it just saran wrap? :lol:

Anyhow, the water cube is looking great. I am impressed at how close to the renders it looks -- almost unreal in some shots. What if some hooligan decided to slash or burn the facade though?



Well damaging physical property is rare in China, and since this is the Olympics the Chinese take great pride in it and I doubt anyone would want to ruin it besides foreign trouble makers. Sports hooligan exist in China like during soccer games but when it comes to big games like Asian Games, National Games these things are almost non existence.

I'm also sure its not that easily destroyed. Imagine if a bird flies by and decides to poke a few holes. I'm more worried about smokers, they just throw cigarette buds wherever imagine if one caught fire.

Come to think about it I think during a hail storm this cube would look amazing you can see all those hail stones bouncing on the top areas or off the bldg. lolz :lol:

Anyhow, the water cube is looking great. I am impressed at how close to the renders it looks -- almost unreal in some shots. What if some hooligan decided to slash or burn the facade though?

Believe me, the Watercube will be the next biggest Aquarium after the Olympics. There goes for you Dubaians!!!

NICE!!

any updates?

here i got some shots for Water Cube!!
enjoy!
http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2007-10/2007101722222765054.jpg
http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2007-10/2007101722241333988.jpg
http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2007-10/2007101722251899310.jpg

WOW NICE!

WOW!!!! Amazing !!!

holy sh*t that looks fantastic!!!! :drool:

Beijing's autumn is the most beautiful season in a year
I live in Beijing
these days' sky are terribly blue
and in the dusk
the sky looks pink an purple or red
very beautiful

Beijing's autumn is the most beautiful season in a year
I live in Beijing
these days' sky are terribly blue
and in the dusk
the sky looks pink an purple or red
very beautiful

sounds cooooooool！！
i cannot wait to go back lar...

http://www.beijingupdates.com/forum/UploadFile/2007-10/200710191043612902.jpg
look at Beijing's sky in autumn!!!!!!!!!!!!

NICE :)

Water cube looks very nice lit up at night!!!

Need updates or status of The Bird's Nest, Watercube and other buildings related to the Olympics (especially the indoors).

Olympic Ticket Sales Suspended
www.chinaview.cn
2007-10-31 08:54:45

BEIJING, Oct. 31 (Xinhua) -- The sale of the second batch of Olympic tickets has been suspended after the booking system crashed under overwhelming demand on Tuesday, the first day tickets became available.

The Beijing Organizing Committee for the 2008 Olympic Games (BOCOG) said Tuesday night in a statement that they had decided to temporarily halt domestic ticket sales to improve the technical system and will announce new ticketing information on November 5.

"Because of the overwhelming volume of page visits, the technical system was unable to perform the tasks well enough, and many applicants were unable to successfully submit their applications," said the statement posted on BOCOG's website.

"We sincerely apologize to the public," it added.

The first-come-first-serve scheme had 1.85 million tickets on sale through the booking website, a hotline and 1,000 designated branches of the Bank of China.

But demand was much higher than organizers anticipated. According to the Beijing Olympic Ticketing Center, the official ticketing website (www.tickets.beijing2008.cn) saw 8 million hits in the first hour starting 9 a.m., while the ticketing hotline received 3.8 million calls.

About 43,000 tickets were successfully purchased before the system crashed half an hour after the sales started, more than 90 percent of them through the ticketing website, said Rong Jun, head of the Olympic ticketing center.

A total of 7 million tickets are available for the Games, with some 75 percent reserved for domestic sale. The first 1.6 million tickets were allocated after a lottery earlier this year. The third phase - from April to August next year - will also sell tickets on a first-come, first-serve basis.


Source (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-10/31/content_6976823.htm)

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LOL! Good thing I bought mine straight from eBay. The price is much more expensive than usual and I don't care. I got 4 tickets for multiple events next year including the Opening and Closing Ceremony!!!!

The Olympic stadium of 2008 Beijing will be completed by March, 2008.

http://i3.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-14/U1974P6T12D3293100F44DT20071114122447.jpg

http://i3.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-14/U1974P6T12D3293098F44DT20071114122403.jpg

http://i0.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-14/U1974P6T12D3293096F44DT20071114122316.jpg

http://i0.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-14/U1974P6T12D3293077F44DT20071114121758.jpg

http://i1.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-14/U1540P6T12D3292828F44DT20071114104547.jpg

http://i0.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-14/U1974P6T12D3293090F44DT20071114122152.jpg

The Olympic stadium of 2008 Beijing will be completed by March, 2008.

http://i3.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-14/U1974P6T12D3293100F44DT20071114122447.jpg

http://i3.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-14/U1974P6T12D3293098F44DT20071114122403.jpg

http://i0.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-14/U1974P6T12D3293096F44DT20071114122316.jpg

http://i0.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-14/U1974P6T12D3293077F44DT20071114121758.jpg

http://i1.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-14/U1540P6T12D3292828F44DT20071114104547.jpg

http://i0.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-14/U1974P6T12D3293090F44DT20071114122152.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=546904

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1018925,00.jpg

I see the ETFE membrane is almost complete.

The stadium looks great.
Here are some more pics of the venues:

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1018925,00.jpg

The aquatic centre looks quite ugly though:

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1018939,00.jpg
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1018951,00.jpg

The tennis centre:

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1019047,00.jpg

Chaoyang-Parc:

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1018991,00.jpg

Stadium in Shenyang (will be used for football)

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1018959,00.jpg

Still not convinced about the main stadium design, though I think it'll look good lit up.

The water cube is an incredible structure. The renderings I've seen of it are beautiful, especially from the inside.

The Shenyang Stadium is also beautiful.

Should be a good games!

The last 3 Olympics stadiums are very similiar (lol, even Istanbuls proposed 2008 stadium would have been~ the same :D)

Very beautiful stadium. That "Bird's nest" looks much better as the stadium for the Olympics in 2012.

The tennis and volleyball venues are great.

http://i3.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-14/U1974P6T12D3293098F44DT20071114122403.jpg

Quick question to those ITK?

Is the whole stadium going to be filled in like those panels are at the top? I think it'd look a whole lot better if it was and I might grow to like it more if that's the case.

venues look good but i fear the quality of the games will be spoiled by the smog that covers this city the long distance events will be a killer.But i hope i'm wrong.We need this to be a great games so our city london can raise the standard to the next level after Bejing. after all thats what every olympics does aint it raises standards to another level

The aquatic centre looks quite ugly though:

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1018939,00.jpg
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,1018951,00.jpg



ugly!? you should take another look. This thing is amazing and looks great.

Yes, I envision the unleashing of:


Anyhow, the water cube is looking great. I am impressed at how close to the renders it looks -- almost unreal in some shots. What if some hooligan decided to slash or burn the facade though?

You don't get that sort of behaviour over there, the Chinese have considerable pride in their public buildings and spaces. Over here in the UK though, that's a different matter! Imagine having the water cube in London - slashing WOULD then be a major concern... what with the current gun and knife culture that we have over here.... nightmare.

Dont know. The renders were looking good but the building itself doesnt.
It looks a bit cheapoish imo.

you crazy, the Water Cube is amazing!

Dont know. The renders were looking good but the building itself doesnt.
It looks a bit cheapoish imo.

I agree!

I loved the renders, but it looks so plain in real life. The blue is so dull.

Maybe at night when it's lit up, it'll look better.

The Tennis and Beach Volleyball stadiums look very similiar to Sydney's in shape, seating structure and even colours used.

The Bird's Nest is absolutely amazing.

The stadium is fantastic, and the watercube looks amazing at night. Cant wait until its complete.

Anyone got any pics of what the velodrome looks like?

Anyone got any pics of what the velodrome looks like?http://en.beijing2008.cn/cptvenues/venues/lsv/n214073807.shtml

I also dont like the stadiums desighns in the day time......at night though, it looks AWESOME lit up and all!!!

Cube looks ugly!

wow, truly amazing

BTW, the majority is looking at the outside/facade
But the stands are also great IMO
How many rows does the 3rd tier have?

It is so amazing and great...
:drool::drool:

ugly!? you should take another look. This thing is amazing and looks great.

Absolutely, this will be the world's best aquatic centre ever built...btw, this aquatic centre will be changed into a water world playground after the olympics!

Some of the updated pics of the Olympic arenas.

Beijing Workers' Arena (Boxing)
http://i0.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-15/U397P6T12D3294248F44DT20071115000043.jpg
http://i0.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-15/U397P6T12D3294251F44DT20071115000135.jpg

Beijing University of Science and Technology (Martial arts)
http://i2.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-14/U397P6T12D3294023F44DT20071114214746.jpg

Beijing University of Industry (Badminton)
http://www.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-09-18/U2096P6T12D3177576F44DT20070918145247.jpg

Beijing National Arena (Gymnastics/Handball)
http://i2.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-22/U397P6T12D3311874F44DT20071122181929.jpg

Anyone got any pics of what the velodrome looks like?

These are the pics of the velodrome. I like the design of the roof.

http://www.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-10-28/U397P6T12D3254371F44DT20071028232344.jpg

http://www.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-10-28/U397P6T12D3254356F44DT20071028231416.jpg

http://www.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-10-28/U397P6T12D3254369F44DT20071028232232.jpg

they look great maybe the will look better at night with a good lights scheme

It's Wembley stadium with a different roof.

good to see the water cube and olympic stadium in the ETFE membrane, since Cape Town's world cup stadium will be wrapped with that membrane. Would look awesome with good lighting

I like that some of the indoor halls aren't oversized. Big enough for the Olympic Games but not too large to sustain after the Games.

perhaps with some reference to london 2012, initial design of the national indoor arena and the final design are vastly different, lots of dumbing down

Beijing National Arena (Gymnastics/Handball)
http://i2.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-22/U397P6T12D3311874F44DT20071122181929.jpg

Do you know the capacity of this arena?
It looks quite decent.

The velodrome looks very nice.

These are the pics of the velodrome. I like the design of the roof.

http://www.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-10-28/U397P6T12D3254371F44DT20071028232344.jpg




Cool building, it reminds me of this 40 year old building in Eindhoven:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/695/p910020313bf2.jpg

:)

Do you know the capacity of this arena?
It looks quite decent.
I like it as well.

Looks very North American, like built for hockey/basketball.

the velodrome has no spectators ?

Do you know the capacity of this arena?
It looks quite decent.

The capacity is 18,000 + 2,000 temp. seats

the velodrome has no spectators ?

Capacity will be 3,000 + 3,000 temporary seats after completion.

Some updated pics of the National Arena;

http://i3.sinaimg.cn/ty/s/2007-11-29/6abfc1d9f6a3bf4d6dd11be1affd3709.jpg

http://i1.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-28/U397P6T12D3324399F44DT20071128171914.jpg

http://i0.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-28/U397P6T12D3324611F44DT20071128194742.jpg

http://i3.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2007-11-28/U397P6T12D3324510F44DT20071128181927.jpg

Capacity will be 3,000 + 3,000 temporary seats after completion.

Isn't that a bit low?

Where will basketball be played?

I think in another arena

Where will basketball be played?

It'll be played at another arena which is still under-construction. The capacity is around 18K.

12.3 Bird nest and water cube
http://photocdn.sohu.com/20071204/Img253795356.jpg

http://photocdn.sohu.com/20071204/Img253795358.jpg

Old and modern (from skyscrapers.cn)
http://www.beijingbg.com/BBS/UPLOADFILE/2007-8/200781914223388289.jpg

why they don't use clear color ETFE for the stadium, clear color ETFE will keep the birdnest look almost no roof.