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tayser
January 28th, 2003, 05:45 AM
Two office towers, one @150m tall and another around 60 - 80 metres.

Lonsdale Street Tower has had a pre-commitment of 50,000 square metres to the Vic Department of Natural Resources and Environment (they're in 2 Nicholson Street atm), renderings / plans thanks to silvermb's smooth talking at the DOI:

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/tuw06.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/tuw04.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/tuw11.JPG

Smaller Tower:

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/tuw02.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/tuw05.JPG

see here for everything else: http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20306

Anyhow latest site pic:

Nope, not much has happened lol :D

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/uworkshop280103.jpg

tays

Bond James Bond
January 28th, 2003, 10:46 AM
Nobody's responded to this thread yet and I felt sorry for it so I thought I'd type this here reply. :)

As for the building(s?), it's OK. Looks like one of those annonymous office towers that get put up on small sites in Manhattan.

But maybe that's a sign of progress - Melb is starting to do stuff like Manhattan. :)

aussie man
January 28th, 2003, 11:54 AM
lol, you're a classic Bond.
Looks good. Will add a bit of bulk at least. Any idea when we'll see some proper (ie. CORE) construction??? And completion is when??

Thanx guys,
Matt:)

A-brain
February 5th, 2003, 05:34 AM
Went past today and still no signs of construction..

Did someone have a specified starting date on this tower ?

tayser
February 8th, 2003, 08:00 AM
silvermb found out some dates - "official" ones were start of December (for PWC, SXC) and I think it was early feb for UW and April / May for E&Y ?

tays

Dean
February 8th, 2003, 10:03 AM
remember Grocan has a full plate at the moment so this site may be idle until the other big sites they are building get into full swing. remember they have Eureka, MCG, RACV, and now this so it may be just a question of logistics b4 this ones starts up.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

A-brain
February 11th, 2003, 12:55 AM
Ermm.. it gets better than that..

The AFR reported today that ISPT (the developers) have chosen to re-tender the construction contract because Grocon's costs were 'too high' ..

Grocon might actaully re-tender but blame the costs of course on the unions and construction being 20-30% more expensive in Victoria ..

So don't hold your breath fella's! I'd say at this rate we're looking at a mid-year start at best .. and hopefully it won't go down the hole like the Eastern Fwy did because its simply too expensive..

On the bright side.. maybe the Government will pick up their 50,000sq.m and go for some other new office tower .. like umm .. Grand Central!!

Aussie Steve
February 11th, 2003, 02:06 AM
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>On the bright side.. maybe the Government will pick up their 50,000sq.m and go for some other new office tower .. like umm .. Grand Central!!</td></tr>
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If they were to pic another site, which I don't think is ever going to happen, it would be the western tower of the Southern Cross Hotel site. Grand Central is too far from the Parliament Precinct.

tayser
February 11th, 2003, 03:49 AM
Grocon's costs might also be too high due to high demand for them ?

E, RACV, 11E, MCG, YE3 (or 4 ?), QV.................... ?

tays

Blabbyboy
February 14th, 2003, 06:22 AM
Yeah, I read about it in the AFR, the tender being called in and Grocon being kicked off, but it didn't mention which site it was, although it mentioned the Govt precommitment - so it was either this or Southern Cross. Well, I hope it doesn't delay the project (need not necessarily delay it).

Melb1
March 7th, 2003, 03:30 AM
There appears to be a start to the Urban Workshop today. The earth moving equipment has moved in today, and there is quite a bit of noise coming from there this morning.

tayser
March 7th, 2003, 03:50 AM
Are they from Delta ?

or ?

interesting!

tays

Melb1
March 7th, 2003, 04:24 AM
from my office window it reads C.D.L on the equipment.

Grollo
March 7th, 2003, 05:49 AM
Possibly more demolition or site preparation?

Maybe ISPT was just putting the screws on Grocon to get a better deal, there is still a big Grocon banner out the front of the site, so maybe they have come to an agreement to start work.

This one will definately get built whether it's Grocon or someone else building it.

A-brain
March 7th, 2003, 08:29 AM
Geez.. CDL Workzone ???

I'm glad it looks like its back on.. But really.. in terms of construction companies thats like trading in your Gold Marantz Amp with Wharfdale speakers for a Konka AM/FM Cassette deck !!!

Cornholio
March 7th, 2003, 09:14 AM
<<<snipped>>originally posted by A-brain ....
So don't hold your breath fella's! I'd say at this rate we're looking at a mid-year start at best .. and hopefully it won't go down the hole like the Eastern Fwy did because its simply too expensive..

On the bright side.. maybe the Government will pick up their 50,000sq.m and go for some other new office tower .. like umm .. Grand Central<<snipped>>

G'day,

Could you (pick a voice, any voice ;)) please explain! What happenned, or didn't happen to the Eastern Fwy. I live in Melb now, but I'm originally from Adelaide so I don't get some of the 'in-comments' of the vic crowd.

Cheers.

BigVman
March 7th, 2003, 09:24 AM
Can anyone post some new pics of this project 'cos I can't see the ones at the top of the thread. It's really piqued my curiosity.

And no I can't see them in silvermb's other melbourne projects thread either - very frustrating!!

Cheers:cheers:

tayser
March 7th, 2003, 05:50 PM
originally sourced / posted by silvermb

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/tuw01.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/tuw02.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/tuw04.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/tuw05.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/tuw06.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/tuw11.jpg

points:

awesome base / entry

awesome gap-filler (quite prominant gap at that!)

JUST under that magical 500 foot mark :( lol!

tays

CULWULLA
March 8th, 2003, 03:17 AM
how high is this one? it must be just under 500ft? cause the lowest roof on telstar corp is exactly 150m high! it looks about same hieght?
it will be ashame if it does go ahead tho?
it fits in nicely between Telstra and Caseldon.

skiesthelimit
March 8th, 2003, 04:29 AM
Yeahm it's *just* under the 500ft mark at 150m, and 152.4m is 500ft...

Maybe it will get a little spire to push it past 500ft? ;)

Heh. Wishful thinking.

A-brain
March 9th, 2003, 04:11 PM
Drove past UWT today and there are definately a couple of piling machines onsite looking ready to be assembled so at least the foundation work looks set to begin!!

Couldn't see this CDL Workzone sign tho..

BigVman
March 9th, 2003, 08:01 PM
:) Thanks for the pics. It does look cool. I must go check it out tomorrow. Cheers

SydMelBrisAdeDarPerHo
March 13th, 2003, 04:49 AM
How many floors are in both of the buildings,and is Grocon building it?:baaa:

Muse
March 16th, 2003, 01:33 AM
S.M.B.A.D.P.H.,

The taller tower of Urban Workshop will be 34 floors above ground and the shorter tower on ss.c, 16 floors above ground.

According to the AFR of March 15th '03.....quote:

"The government anchored two new developments in the eastern sector of the CBD, committing to 53,000 sq m at the Industry Superannuation Property Trust's and Grocon's Urban Workshop project and another 50,000 sq m at Multiplex and Baron Corp's $300 million joint venture on the site of the old Southern Cross Hotel i.e. Southern Cross Office project."

So yes, Grocon will be constructing U.W. :yes:

tayser
March 16th, 2003, 03:53 AM
..we hope, there was talk of it being re-tendered.... :rant:

Grollo
March 17th, 2003, 01:35 PM
Urban Workshop is definately U/C!

Went past today and piling and excavation are full steam ahead :-)

kasperluke
March 17th, 2003, 02:06 PM
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<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Grollo </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>Urban Workshop is definately U/C!

Went past today and piling and excavation are full steam ahead :-)</td></tr>
</table>

Beautiful! *rubs hands together*:D

tayser
March 31st, 2003, 10:48 AM
this is NOW what you call a sizable "hole in the ground"

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/uw3103031.jpg

perhaps a new OzScrapers recruit ? lol :D

http://members.iinet.net.au/~tayser/uw3103032.jpg

Duff
March 31st, 2003, 12:28 PM
jeeze theyre cutting it pretty close to cassledon place arent they?
from that first pick it looks like a matter of centimetres!

tayser
April 3rd, 2003, 05:18 AM
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>jeeze theyre cutting it pretty close to cassledon place arent they?
from that first pick it looks like a matter of centimetres!</td></tr>
</table>

yarp - and they might be cutting it quite close to T-HQ, just below the railing (for anyone who's been to this spot) they've got a make-shift path for trucks / piler what have you to get to the Little Lonsdale side of the site, but nevertheless, they might excavate that path soon too!

tays

Aussie Steve
April 11th, 2003, 01:34 AM
There is a very tall crane being constructed today.

tayser
April 11th, 2003, 07:36 AM
<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
<td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Aussie Steve </i></b> </smallfont> </td>
<tr><td align=left valign=top>There is a very tall crane being constructed today.</td></tr>
</table>

any concrete poured ?

silvermb
April 11th, 2003, 08:49 AM
easy fellas, the only concrete poured at this stage are for the perimiter pilings. Demo/excav/pilings handled by CDL and Piave Concrete. Im guessing a large mobile crane went up today Aussie Steve?

Although the site is u/c there is no major builder yet. Tays pointed out that the site is being re-tendered as Grocon's final submission was considered too high. By the time the prelim work is completed (4 weeks +) the builder will be allocated and the site will be ready to start.

Aside from Grocon the builder generally moves in on the site when the core begins, eg. Delta did the cores on PWC and FWP and Baulderstone moved in after the core was formed. Multiplex aren't really on FWP yet. Same goes for Concept Blue and HWT, Delta are doing the excavation/demo and look after the piling process while Multiplex will move in when the tower is ready to construct.

So basically if ISPT haven't secured a builder ready to go immediately for Urban before CDL finish the prelim work we will be waiting around for a while.

Anyway Dean would know more about when the builder moves in, but thats where Urban is at the moment.

Aussie Steve
April 11th, 2003, 09:09 AM
I just went for a very long walk around the city and now I feel very very silly :runaway:

The crane I was atlking about is either a new one at QV or an old one being removed. The crame is right on Little Lonsdale Street servicing the tall apartment tower on the corner of Russell St.

I did walk by UW and no action, but very few old buildings left on site, just the handfull that must be retained due to their heritage significance.

I suspect there will be a hell of a lot of action in a few weeks time.

A-brain
April 12th, 2003, 04:17 AM
Tenders were out in the Saturday Age today calling for subbies to submit costs for UWT ..

Multiplex and ProBuild were both tendering and there may have been others ..

Going by that I'd say we'll have a building onsite and construting by about late June/July .. hopefully foundation piling might be carried out by an already contracted builder like Delta ..

silvermb
April 12th, 2003, 04:41 AM
c'mon A-brain usually your red hot on those who dont read the previous posts prior to replying. CDL and Piave are looking after foundation piling as was pointed out by some nincompoop a few posts above. :cool:

A-brain
April 12th, 2003, 10:11 AM
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>c'mon A-brain usually your red hot on those who dont read the previous posts prior to replying. CDL and Piave are looking after foundation piling as was pointed out by some nincompoop a few posts above. :cool:</td></tr>
</table>

Haha ok yeah sprung bad! :runaway:

Anyways good news that construction schedule doesn't look like being interrupted as a result of the Grocon thing..

Aussie Steve
May 3rd, 2003, 06:57 AM
Tenders have been put out yet again in todays The Age by a number of major companies.

silvermb
May 12th, 2003, 06:51 AM
piling and capping continued last week. Most of the piling/capping is complete so excavation will be back in full swing this week
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/urban_20030507.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/urban_20030507=1.JPG

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/urban_20030507=3.JPG

silvermb
June 24th, 2003, 01:40 PM
http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/uw1.JPG

suprised it hasn't been in the news but Multiplex will be the builder, there's a brand new Multiplex site office up and running so there won't be any delays, right into construction

tayser
June 24th, 2003, 01:53 PM
well, at least that one's settled.

PLUG THE GAP I say (and hurry up about it!)....! :D

I knew there was a reason why I didnt have to go up there today :cool:

Aussie Steve
July 4th, 2003, 01:35 PM
WOW

This development just keeps going deeper and deeper every time I walk by. Today it was at least 3 - 4 stories underground and still going! No core for at least a month, maybe even longer!

silvermb
August 5th, 2003, 10:28 AM
finally down to digging the core pit

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/urban_20030805.JPG

tayser
August 5th, 2003, 01:26 PM
A request: can you post all the renderings you have of this tower again silvermb ?

..what do you reckon, 6 months til all of that hole is filled up /back up to street level ?

tays

Arunava
August 5th, 2003, 01:39 PM
Found a few renderings on my computer:
http://users.tpg.com.au/adsl7es3/urbanworkshop.jpg
http://users.tpg.com.au/adsl7es3/urbanworkshop2.jpg

tayser
August 5th, 2003, 02:25 PM
aiee, havent seen those before!

thanks Arunava!

*right click, save picture as...* :)

tays

BigVman
August 8th, 2003, 07:16 AM
Rocked past this morning and there were a dozen trucks line up on Lonsdale St ready to cart rubble I assume. They've also moved the exit ramp from Lt Lonsdale to Lonsdale St as they dig away.

The core pit was looking pretty well formed, well on the way to starting to plug the gaps.

silvermb
August 19th, 2003, 05:53 AM
one big core pit, and that'll be one massive pour to fill that hole in one day

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/urban_20030815.JPG

Blabbyboy
August 19th, 2003, 11:02 AM
There are so many developments in Melb, I practically FORGOT about UW!!!

tayser
August 19th, 2003, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Blabbyboy
There are so many developments in Melb, I practically FORGOT about UW!!!

yeah I frequently forget bout Yoo-Dubbaya.

And I only just realised, Yoo-Dubbaya, SX and EY are probably all going to rise at the same time ;)

CULWULLA
August 20th, 2003, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by tayser
yeah I frequently forget bout Yoo-Dubbaya.

And I only just realised, Yoo-Dubbaya, SX and EY are probably all going to rise at the same time ;)
similar to what happened in 1991 when the 5 BIG BITCHES rose up in same area!! but these are slightly smaller bitches!!!
lol

Blabbyboy
August 20th, 2003, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by CULWULLA
similar to what happened in 1991 when the 5 BIG BITCHES rose up in same area!! but these are slightly smaller bitches!!!
lol

All the same, I'd still prefer a few big mommas to many smaller developments!

Btw, don't know where to post this: another big momma bites the dust - Harley House redevelopment is completed and the scaffolding is down. The redevelopment of the building next door (on Exhibition, can't remember the name) is also well underway.

Grollo
August 20th, 2003, 03:35 AM
Harley House is only being leased out for five years, it will definately be torn down after that :-) It's a shame that the HIH collapse put an end to the proposed tower for this site, but it will happen, just in five years :-(

Blabbyboy
August 20th, 2003, 03:54 AM
Originally posted by Grollo
Harley House is only being leased out for five years, it will definately be torn down after that :-) It's a shame that the HIH collapse put an end to the proposed tower for this site, but it will happen, just in five years :-(

Why do you say that it will "DEFINITELY" be torn down after 5 years? Does that mean the proposed resitower will still go up? Who owns the site? And is it large enough for a tower, or will it be consolidated with the building next door? DETAILS PLEASE!!! :D

Grollo
August 20th, 2003, 07:35 AM
The current works are just touch ups really, it's not being fully refurbished like 15 William Street. This building will go because , it's an old crappy building on one of the last sites large enough for a tower at the top end of Collins Street (the most expensive real etsate in Melbourne) and they have a permit for a 146m high apartment tower on the site .

Blabbyboy
August 20th, 2003, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by Grollo
The current works are just touch ups really, it's not being fully refurbished like 15 William Street. This building will go because , it's an old crappy building on one of the last sites large enough for a tower at the top end of Collins Street (the most expensive real etsate in Melbourne) and they have a permit for a 146m high apartment tower on the site .
I hope you're right!

silvermb
August 20th, 2003, 10:09 AM
Harley House is the old stager on cr Collins & Exhibition, recently had a new paint job and looks superb, i was under the impression that it would remain as part of the proposed tower. 63 Exhibition is the shitty office block that will be demolished as will 71 Collins. the parcel is owned by Allianz who took over from HIH

Grollo
August 20th, 2003, 01:21 PM
Your right, it's the Harley House redevelopemnt, but the new tower would retain Hatley House and be canterlievered over it and the office block at 63 Elizabeth Streeet is the ugly one that would be demolished.

Aussie Steve
August 21st, 2003, 01:35 AM
Hate to tell you, but 63 Exhibition St has just had a make over and it looks better then before. I now doubt wether that proposed development will ever happen. Oh well, there are plenty of other sites that need redevelopment much sooner then this one.

Grollo
August 21st, 2003, 02:09 AM
They are only considering leases for 63 Exhibition Street for up to five years, so they obviously have plans in five years time :-)

Aussie Steve
August 21st, 2003, 03:21 AM
Oh, ok, Lets hope so Grollo.

silvermb
August 26th, 2003, 12:24 PM
big pour today & tonight, three arms pumping

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483urban_20030826.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483urban_20030826_1.jpg

same line down lt Lonsdale as well
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483urban_20030826_3.jpg

hey Grollo, was that you i flew past at Treasury Gardens today, or your uncanny twin?

tayser
August 26th, 2003, 01:44 PM
nice blonde!

...and nice construction pics!

was gonna call you today to see what you were doing - but I didn't get up until, well I won't say what time.

I love being a student.

:guns1:

Dean
August 26th, 2003, 02:07 PM
Man.. that's one big MoFo Core. Do u think the UWS core is bigger than the SX, which also a big MoFo??

Should have a few more cranes very shortly in the CBD

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

Bluestar
September 10th, 2003, 01:55 PM
The SX core is bigger by a small margin I believe. Commercial tower cores are always impressive because they have to carry all the utilities and some services that resitowers dont.

The East end of the city will have 4 serious cores going skyward in a little while. Marvellous.

Bluestar

tayser
September 10th, 2003, 02:07 PM
Yeah, I'd agree SX's core is just a little larger.

Still though, all this talk of integrating the old buildings into the new foyer suddenly became clear on tuesday, I never realised they'd done the same inside Telescum (Telstra :D) HQ's retail component / podium !

lozza
September 11th, 2003, 05:03 AM
Quote: Telescum (Telstra ) :D

VERY FUNNY TAYS :rock:

cheers

lozza:D

:dooby:

silvermb
September 21st, 2003, 04:47 AM
dean, you wanted it

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483urban_20030919.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483urban_20030919_1.jpg

what was her name again?
lozza you dog :cool:

tayser
September 21st, 2003, 06:06 AM
very nice, keep all these pics coming silvermb ;)

tayser
September 24th, 2003, 11:08 AM
Ding! Just had a thought:

As Department of Sustainability of Environment have signed the pre-commitment lease for 50,000 sqm, and as planning is now DSE and not DOI, will we be saying bye bye to Nauru House's Planning Information Centre in the forecourt ?

or is DSE going to SXE ?

gah, can't remember...

Dean
September 24th, 2003, 11:49 AM
nice pics silver...

with a crane base on the north end and one in the core they should be assembleing them any day now..

if they're available

what's goin on with the smaller spring street tower. is that happening??

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

silvermb
September 24th, 2003, 11:21 PM
all the tenders submitted were for 50 Lonsdale so the Spring st tower will come later

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483urban.jpg

tayser
September 25th, 2003, 09:41 AM
Good old Cass is getting a closer friend at long last ;)

When did the crane appear silvermb?

tues / wed ?

Kushantaiidan
September 25th, 2003, 05:02 PM
Cass is underated and under appreciated on this forum. Look at her! Such an elegant little tower...

If I had to pick any skyscraper from Melbourne and plonk it in geelong, I'd choose Casseldon.

Anyway, nice to see some putz's, crane's, cement trucks and a core finally!

Blabbyboy
September 26th, 2003, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by Kushantaiidan
Cass is underated and under appreciated on this forum. Look at her! Such an elegant little tower...

If I had to pick any skyscraper from Melbourne and plonk it in geelong, I'd choose Casseldon.


Uh...that's not MUCH of a compliment, K! :D

Hey, I love Geelong!

But you know what's missing with Cassie that would make her a beauty? She needs a friggin' SPIRE with LASER BEAMS!!! :D

tayser
October 2nd, 2003, 08:47 AM
http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/uw0210031.jpg

Kushantaiidan
October 2nd, 2003, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Blabbyboy
Uh...that's not MUCH of a compliment, K! :D

Hey, I love Geelong!

But you know what's missing with Cassie that would make her a beauty? She needs a friggin' SPIRE with LASER BEAMS!!! :D

Yes. Melbourne needs MORE BLUE LAZER BEAMS.

I tell ya, if the rialto spire aint a blue lazer beam, I'm personally gonna climb up there, and cut the mofo down, and put it on top of the hospital in ballarat. =P

tayser
October 11th, 2003, 12:23 PM
big plug to: www.hassell.com.au

seen these before, but here's your ubar-large versions! :D

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/Urban-Workshop-01.jpg

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/Urban-Workshop-02.jpg

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/Urban-Workshop-03.jpg

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/Urban-Workshop-04.jpg

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/Urban-Workshop-05.jpg

^^ CANNOT WAIT for that foyer! :righton:

Richo
October 12th, 2003, 01:00 AM
I was thinking about UW and said to myself - I wonder if the green glass exterior is going to be the same green glass exterior as Southern X up the road. I know you may say UW is a lighter green, as noted in recent sketches, but look at Eureka, everyone thought, or was sketched with a purple colour exterior at first, then a lighter blue, now it's even darker than most expected.

Both buildings (UW and SX) are similar in a few ways. They are:

1. Similar in height, give or take 10m.
2. Both have green glass exteriors.
3. Both are up the same end of town.
4. Both are U/C at the same time.
5. They are both similar in shape (except for the roof).

Does anyone want to add any further useless information?

A-brain
October 12th, 2003, 03:59 AM
Haha that's ok.. theres enough useless info to go around.

But I am wondering from those renderings.. are we *sure* the building is still gonna be 150m ??

It so doesn't look 150m from those pictures, though of course I hope I'm wrong.

But ditto tays.. that foyer rocks..

Aussie Steve
October 13th, 2003, 01:19 AM
I don't know if that little building on the corner of Spring & Little Lonsdale St will be built, but again, we will have to wait and see. Lets hope it happens, cos I don't want another Southern Cross Office tower with only 1 going ahead and the other not!!! :(

tayser
October 31st, 2003, 06:05 AM
Yarp - still pretty much a pit (pic c/o SteveMelb)

http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/gallery/galleries/Tour_2003-10-29/image034.jpg

tayser
December 15th, 2003, 07:50 AM
didnt have time to take a pic to compare, however I think we've had a core rise - well it looks it since I've been away, can anyone confirm?

A-brain
December 15th, 2003, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by tayser
didnt have time to take a pic to compare, however I think we've had a core rise - well it looks it since I've been away, can anyone confirm?

Most definately it has risen since your last pic tays.

Drove past this morning and the top of the box looks to be exactly at footpath level - with the red steel strut thingys now standing above ground out the top of the core box..

tayser
December 15th, 2003, 08:56 AM
weee! thought so :banana: :banana2: :banana:

the whole East End is just preparing to go gangbusters right from the start of next year!

If you're happy and you know it, use the guns1 smilie

:guns1:

:)

BigVman
December 16th, 2003, 12:06 AM
This has to be one of the ugliest cores and ugliest, messiest pits I've ever seen. Looks like Jerry and his mates are building it, but it is coming along. They've even got some concrete on the ground now. For a while there it was a 1 level core surrounded by dirt and rock.:eat:

Muse
December 17th, 2003, 08:16 PM
According to the latest issue of National Building News Monthly (Dec. 2003), makes absolutely no mention of the lower-rise tower 60-80m tall, only the higher-rise 29-30 storey tower, with a large rendering, seen on earlier posts in this thread (smaller).

Which may bring us to the conclusion that the lower-rise has either been put on hold - waiting for an upturn in the commerical development cycle or scrapped altogether :rant:. Hopefully the former (at least) in regard to the 'smaller' tower and definitely not the latter!! Grrrrrr.....

Aussie Steve
December 18th, 2003, 12:09 AM
Sounds very much like Southern Cross Office. I thought this might happen with this site too. Because there is no market for new office towers, they will not build the smaller towers at either UW or SXO :( Sad news

Blabbyboy
December 18th, 2003, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by Muse
According to the latest issue of National Building News Monthly (Dec. 2003), makes absolutely no mention of the lower-rise tower 60-80m tall, only the higher-rise 29-30 storey tower, with a large rendering, seen on earlier posts in this thread (smaller).

Which may bring us to the conclusion that the lower-rise has either been put on hold - waiting for an upturn in the commerical development cycle or scrapped altogether :rant:. Hopefully the former (at least) in regard to the 'smaller' tower and definitely not the latter!! Grrrrrr.....
As a basis for comparison, how high will UW reach compared to Telstra and Casselden? Somebody told me (I think it was A-Brain or Deano) that it would reach as high as the first setback on Telstra. How can that only be 30 levels?

Dean
December 18th, 2003, 03:21 AM
I think its 33 or 34 levels plus LMR's etc.. it will reach 150m. i think Casseldon is in the 160's so it will look great sandwiched in between Telstra and Cass. i also think that Telstra's first setback is about 150m

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

tayser
December 18th, 2003, 09:24 AM
ding ding.

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/tuw04.jpg

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/tuw06.jpg

_____

thanks for the info muse!

tays

Muse
December 18th, 2003, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Dean
I think its 33 or 34 levels plus LMR's etc.. it will reach 150m. i think Casseldon is in the 160's so it will look great sandwiched in between Telstra and Cass. i also think that Telstra's first setback is about 150m. Cheers Dean - Melbourne According to both skyscrapers.com and skyscraperpage.com, U.W. will be 34 levels and 150m above ground.

Like all the other Multiplex constructions happening around Melbourne's CBD, tomorrow is the last day for the workers i.e. 19th Dec. and they will start work again on the 15th Jan..

silvermb
January 15th, 2004, 11:44 AM
big big box, second crane as well

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483uw_20040113_3.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/510/483uw_20040113_1.jpg

Grollo
January 15th, 2004, 01:53 PM
Another monster core. Any movement on the Landmakr Tower site across the road?

tayser
January 22nd, 2004, 11:45 AM
definitely been a core rise, slightly above street level now [compared to silvermb's last pic] :guns1:

http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/cbd/uw2201041.jpg

forgot to go up and have a look at Landmark sorry grollo

Meldon
January 22nd, 2004, 12:01 PM
There has been some drilling going on at the Landmark site for the last couple of days, but no major works atm. At least there is activity though.

A-brain
February 21st, 2004, 07:16 AM
Finally the core is above ground - which means the Big 4 major new Office Towers are all now visible above ground!! Woo Hoo !!

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Cons/DSC00682.jpg

plotstyle
February 21st, 2004, 07:27 AM
any one been to that club there? in the first elevation? it also looks like those drawings are hand done wtf lol!

tayser
February 23rd, 2004, 12:05 PM
http://www.johnwardle.com/uploads/pr06_03.jpg

^^ very similar to Telstra HQ's podium / labyrinth

http://www.johnwardle.com/uploads/pr06_01.jpg

http://www.johnwardle.com/uploads/pr06_04.jpg

http://www.johnwardle.com/uploads/pr06_05.jpg

www.johnwardle.com

kasperluke
February 23rd, 2004, 12:14 PM
Where do you find all your information and pictures tays! Keep up your great work..!

Where are these mode pictures from?

tayser
February 23rd, 2004, 12:22 PM
The architect's (associate?) site ;)

silvermb
March 18th, 2004, 10:41 AM
this is the single biggest core in town, takes three pumping arms about half a day to pour a level

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/483urban1834.jpg

tayser
March 23rd, 2004, 11:07 AM
What I'd give to be an Exec at Tele$cum right now...

wait a minute... what am I saying? It's Tele$scum who are making me pay $80 per month for semi-decent broadband as opposed to sparrowband...

either that, or a job at the ATO would be good, eh silvermb? ;)

silvermb
March 23rd, 2004, 11:29 AM
or even college house over the road for the diagonal pic

say tays you weren't trashing a certain uni yesterday afternoon waving your little red flag?

tayser
March 23rd, 2004, 11:35 AM
héhéhé

no of course not!

not I!

...*whistles*

:cool:

as if ;)

tayser
April 24th, 2004, 09:57 AM
.

BUMP - updates?

Meldon
April 26th, 2004, 06:05 AM
The core has probably risen twice since that last pic. It's now well above street level (5-6 levels approx)

Aussie Steve
April 30th, 2004, 06:15 AM
The core now has number on it level 3 exposed

plotstyle
May 2nd, 2004, 02:47 AM
couldnt find a park anyone got close ups of slabage

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic38.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic39.jpg

Aussie Steve
May 14th, 2004, 05:19 AM
The core is still at level 3 but the floor plats are now at street level.

plotstyle
May 15th, 2004, 07:18 AM
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic63.jpg

floor plates will be above street level in a few weeks

tayser
May 15th, 2004, 07:27 AM
good stuff, it turns out it hasnt taken that long to get back up to the street eh?

bring on the 'scraper wall! :D

plotstyle
May 15th, 2004, 07:34 AM
u meen this tasyer......



http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic68.jpg :wallbash:

plotstyle
May 15th, 2004, 07:41 AM
can some get some shots looking down at the core please good ones?

Richo
May 16th, 2004, 01:23 AM
Mmmmmmm - I still can't make up my mind on this building and it will be a while before I do.

plotstyle
May 26th, 2004, 02:36 PM
im just posting to myself in this thread! has any one ever been to the club that stuck in the middle and not getting demolished?

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic79.jpg

tayser
May 26th, 2004, 02:39 PM
whaaa?

and yes, no-one takes notice until the core's about 12 levels over ground ;)

thanks anyhow

dynamoultraclean
May 26th, 2004, 03:36 PM
Speaking of which, what level is it at now?

Aussie Steve
May 27th, 2004, 01:28 AM
Yes plotstyle, I have been to that club, but its now closed. It was a great bar, but in need of a make over and I don't think it will come back. But its great to see this project moving along. Must go for a walk today to see it.

Grollo
June 11th, 2004, 04:13 PM
I think this tower will have more of an impact on the skyline that most people expect as it is a very long building with much smaller setbacks from the road frontages than Telstra and Casseldon.

The podium and covered laneways will be awesome:
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/urban workshop 1.jpg

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/urban workshop 3.gif

Stage 1 of The Urban Workshop master-plan is now underway
with the construction of the main 33 storey offi ce tower on the
basis of a 50,000m2 tenant pre-commitment from the Victorian
Government’s Department of Human Services. Stage 2, the
smaller offi ce tower on Spring Street, is not proceeding in the
absence of tenant pre-commitment.
The 33 storey tower provides approximately 62,000m2
NLA of A-grade commercial offi ce space with premium grade
services. The building is designed with a side core (housing
17 lifts in three rises with two dedicated goods lifts) and large,
fl exible fl oor plates ranging from 1,700m2 to 1,900m2. A four
level podium provides interactive offi ce space with bridge
links between tenancies overlooking the large foyer and
retail area below.
The leisure building at the east of the site is also linked to
commercial offi ce fl oors by bridges and is serviced by car park
lifts. Located adjacent to Casselden Place offi ce tower, the
leisure building provides a connection with Casselden Place
foyer. Users to both offi ce towers will freely fl ow through both
buildings and activate the space.
The basement car park, accessed off Little Lonsdale Street,
provides car parking for approximately 500 cars, 100
motorbikes and 160 bicycles. Shower and change facilities
are provided adjacent to bicycle storage areas. A dedicated
loading bay is provided with easy access to goods lifts and
loading areas to service the main offi ce tower and
podium levels.
The ground level provides a diverse mix of uses comprising
entry and reception for commercial offi ce tenants, specialty
retail and urban spaces. The retail laneway, adjacent to the
offi ce entry includes food and dining outlets, specialist retail
including newsagency, pharmacy and mini-mart type facilities
and conversion of the existing heritage buildings into food and
beverage tenancies.

silvermb
June 12th, 2004, 01:57 AM
late last month

http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/uw200405.JPG

plotstyle
June 12th, 2004, 02:10 AM
your images are getting bigger in size and less compression :)

tayser
June 12th, 2004, 03:00 AM
Is the walkway beside 242E still closed?

Aussie Steve
June 14th, 2004, 09:03 AM
Its a pitty that the second tower won't be built at this stage, but at least there is a possibility for a taller tower in the future! This is going to be a great development and I like Grollo said, I don't think most poeple understand how much of an impact this tower will have to that end of the CBD. It will fill a gap very nicely.

tayser
June 20th, 2004, 07:24 AM
Well, Multiplex were working on a sunday! (20th June) - strange, even with the rain rolling in. Still at 3 exposed on the core.

http://thehoddlegrid.net/projects/updates/cbd/uw/uw2006041.jpg

How long's it been at street level?

http://thehoddlegrid.net/projects/updates/cbd/uw/uw2006042.jpg

Meldon
June 29th, 2004, 05:35 AM
The core has finally risen to 4

Blabbyboy
June 30th, 2004, 10:36 AM
So bluddy slow!

Grollo
June 30th, 2004, 04:25 PM
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/uw web.jpg

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~naharrison/uw 2 web.jpg

tayser
June 30th, 2004, 04:35 PM
it sure as hell is going to be a shock to all the Tele$cum employees on the Eastern side of the building as the core progressively rises eh. There goes the natural light ------------------------------->

Aussie Steve
July 1st, 2004, 02:07 AM
This one is very very slow!!!!

I wish they would hurry up and fill this gap in the CBD!

silvermb
July 6th, 2004, 11:49 AM
not so slow anymore..

third crane is up and the first steel floorplate is almost complete. will rocket along now that the floorplate is established, doesn't deviate to the top now

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/uw200407.jpg

FAVELLE
July 6th, 2004, 12:30 PM
Christ ive got to travel to more major cities ive never seen a tower setup like the one on the black Favelle in the core really well done. :)

plotstyle
July 6th, 2004, 12:36 PM
nice shots! :)

silvermb do you get construction workers giving you funny looks alot?

Favco750
July 6th, 2004, 04:02 PM
Favelle, the black one is a normal 310 set up as an internal climber, same as the soon to be 4 M225D's at circle on cavill. It is a split deck owned by Caelli's ( I think) with a 16t winch, # 059.
C'Mon, give us some numbers!!!!!!!!!!!

Silver, as always, your images are prime!!!!!

Dean
July 6th, 2004, 04:23 PM
^^ if i remember correctly those rigs have a SWL of around 15t with the boom right up and around 1.5t with it fully extended?? sound about right Fav & Fave??

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

FAVELLE
July 7th, 2004, 12:58 PM
Favelle, the black one is a normal 310 set up as an internal climber, same as the soon to be 4 M225D's at circle on cavill. It is a split deck owned by Caelli's ( I think) with a 16t winch, # 059.
C'Mon, give us some numbers!!!!!!!!!!!

Silver, as always, your images are prime!!!!! I was getting at the tower its a bloody big comedown from 2.4mts weird design have never seen one quite like it,so the tower would be smaller than the internal climbers they used on World Tower,.Dean not sure how much boom this 310 has but with 60mts its good for about 16t approx 6 meters out and about 2t flat stick. :)

Favco750
July 7th, 2004, 01:14 PM
Same size towers as Q1, circle on cavill, just with a transition as the top one to enable the pedestal of an older bigger crane to marry up with the newer smaller dimensioned towers.

plotstyle
July 7th, 2004, 01:49 PM
ive seen crane template drawings they rock when i first looked at the drawing it looked like it had been nuked twice with rings within rings then i looked closer and it was 2 cranes do you have these when you operate cranes? another question every a4 precast panel drawing has the total panel load do they radio this to you cause ive heard stories of...

Favco750
July 8th, 2004, 02:44 PM
Don't have a clue where you are going with the rings in the rings????

Every panel lifting by a crane (In Victoria) must have accompaning paperwork with it which gives information such as but not limited to, casting date, strength of concrete at time of pour (mpa), day it was lifted from the cast bed, strength (mpa) at that time and what type (and/or brand) of lifting inserts have been installed inside the panel. This information is brain processed and kept by the crane crew on a tower crane, and given to the crane driver of a mobile crane. The main points that looked at is the time between casting and delivery, to make sure the panel has gained strength and is not 'green', and of course the weight.
The rings you talkin about, you mean a birds eye view of a job with a ring around the crane on a site layout comic, if so, that is just a radius guide, how far the crane will reach superimposed onto a job plan. eg, 55m from centre of crane tower etc etc.

plotstyle
July 9th, 2004, 01:19 AM
yeap cool with the loads at each ring thats what im talking about!
yeah i have to file a4 precast panels so i sometimes see 40 in one day

A-brain
July 11th, 2004, 02:40 AM
This outline of the buildings shape formed by the steel frame is *really* noticeable now if go past the site - you can really feel the scale of the building..

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/uw200407.jpg

Very wide & imposing!! Great bit of bulk for that end of town.. isn't it amazing how with so many still vacant potential scraper sites in CBD Melbourne tends to build in clusters...

I mean SxC & E&Y are all right up against existing talls.. and UW here is wedged in the middle of Telstra & Casselden..

Favco750
July 12th, 2004, 01:30 PM
yeah i have to file precast panels so i sometimes see 40 in one day


must have a big filing cabinet to be filing panels, under c for concrete or p for panels :)

plotstyle
July 12th, 2004, 01:58 PM
yeap + marking plans ect ect

FAVELLE
July 13th, 2004, 11:35 AM
must have a big filing cabinet to be filing panels, under c for concrete or p for panels :)
thats good :hilarious :hilarious :hilarious :hilarious

Meldon
July 14th, 2004, 02:30 AM
Core rise yesterday...level 5 exposed.

plotstyle
July 14th, 2004, 05:46 AM
just cause you guys lift panels without looking at em!

FAVELLE
July 14th, 2004, 11:55 AM
Sorry mate just jokin around :)

Favco750
July 14th, 2004, 01:10 PM
How do you mean lift 'em without looking at 'em.????? Sometimes we look at them for days on end, week after week. How much is there to look at????? We look at the inserts, we look at the weight, we lift. Not long after, we put on props, we put down. It's not rocket science.

As far as stimulation goes, panels don't really rate all that high, if at all.

Aussie Steve
July 23rd, 2004, 04:29 AM
Up to Level 6 today

plotstyle
July 23rd, 2004, 05:23 AM
also spandec down for slabage of level 1 i assume

Aussie Steve
July 29th, 2004, 08:27 AM
http://img68.exs.cx/img68/4471/UW1.jpg

http://img68.exs.cx/img68/7585/UW2.jpg

http://img68.exs.cx/img68/4130/UW3.jpg

tayser
July 29th, 2004, 08:43 AM
you have to borrow that cam more often A. Steve :D

Grollo
July 29th, 2004, 09:11 AM
Cool so it's another composite building with a concrete core and steel floorplates and columns. These seem to be getting pretty common in Austrlaia for office buildings.

Meldon
August 4th, 2004, 07:46 AM
Level 7 of the core was exposed today...

plotstyle
August 4th, 2004, 08:00 AM
Level 7 of the core was exposed today...

and there will be pictures @ the 6:30 news update ;)

tayser
August 4th, 2004, 09:27 AM
eh?

plotstyle
August 4th, 2004, 11:30 AM
uh left my cable at work... :(

plotstyle
August 16th, 2004, 06:16 AM
8...

Meldon
August 20th, 2004, 08:11 AM
Question: Where is the height of UWS measured from, as Lonsdale St is on quite a slope here? Can't we squeeze another 2m out of this one?

Grollo
August 20th, 2004, 08:22 AM
The height is already taken from the Lowest entrance :-)

Meldon
August 30th, 2004, 05:15 AM
level 9 of the core exposed now...

plotstyle
August 31st, 2004, 11:31 AM
bump

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic197.jpg

Meldon
September 20th, 2004, 05:37 AM
Level 11 of the core exposed today...

Aussie Steve
September 22nd, 2004, 05:54 AM
http://img62.exs.cx/img62/849/Mvc-014f.jpg

http://img62.exs.cx/img62/8826/Mvc-008f.jpg

Peek-a-boo. I see you :D
http://img62.exs.cx/img62/1579/Mvc-009f1.jpg

Icanseeformiles
September 22nd, 2004, 07:01 AM
can anyone explain to me why on earth this project seems to be taking an eternity. I admit I am only going by pics and a few glances at it as i sometimes drive past it but WTF? are they all on tranquilizers on that site?
a perfectly valid reason will be gladly accepted.

tayser
September 22nd, 2004, 08:23 AM
It's taking an eternity as it's a complex project (what isn't?) - extra complex as they are retaning a few of the buildings and incorporating them into the base - go inside Telstra HQ and you'll see what I mean.

Icanseeformiles
September 22nd, 2004, 09:25 AM
thanks Tays'
That thought was in the back of my mind.
Wasn't there something of historical significance dug up there as well or am i mixing that up with another site?

tayser
September 22nd, 2004, 10:54 AM
yep, it's the old pro' district of 100 years ago :)

Aussie Steve
October 6th, 2004, 05:35 AM
The core is at level 12 exposed.

Meldon
October 14th, 2004, 07:03 AM
Level 13 of the core exposed today...will it catch SX?

phi1ip
October 14th, 2004, 07:28 AM
Bugger - looks like the photo I took on the weekend is already out of date:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/phi1ip/UrbanWorkshopLonsdale/200410091625.jpg

SX Phase 1 has been rising fairly rapidly too - photos at the end of August show 16 as the top floor exposed, and it was up to level 19 exposed when I went on my Sunday afternoon building site excursion, so although UWL is moving fast, I doubt it will have time to overtake SX. It could be close.

tayser
October 14th, 2004, 09:06 AM
awesome pic - massive gap filler says it all about this tower.

I wonder if we're going to have to trudge up here in future for plans after DSE has moved in? or will Nauru's Planning Info Centre stay put?

silvermb
October 19th, 2004, 02:25 PM
this thing has a podium that covers a massive area with plenty of alcoves, a triple-level foyer and mezzanine in areas while also incorporating the old pubs at ground level, so the talk about this think going slow is no on. the tower proper already has facade and i'd bet it'll go faster than Southern Cross from this point on

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/uw200410.jpg

Meldon
October 27th, 2004, 01:09 AM
Up to level 14 now...

Bluestar
October 27th, 2004, 05:24 AM
Hands up who thinks Telstra HQ is the sexiest commercial tower in the city.

<Hand in air>

This tower was mooted as 'see through' in the papers when it was announced; I'm waiting eagerly to see what the glazing will be like. We've got charcoal grey for E&Y, turqouise for SX, waiting on this tower for the uber-slick glazing trifecta.

Blue

Aussie Steve
October 27th, 2004, 05:51 AM
Going on the pic above, the glass looks blue/green to me.

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/Urban-Workshop-01.jpg

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/Urban-Workshop-02.jpg

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/Urban-Workshop-05.jpg

CULWULLA
October 27th, 2004, 06:23 AM
i just wish it was to be more seen. being squashed between two big towers just ruins the cityscape, and becomes a 150m wall. I thought Sydney only did this? lol (eg-33 bligh st)
going on renders, this slab should of been more noticeble.
aw well

idle21
October 27th, 2004, 06:36 AM
It must suck to have an office in the Telstra HQ facing this development. They are going to go from having decent views to facing a concrete slab that looks to be a mere 5 meters from their office windows. Wouldn't that be a joy.

And just out of curiosity how come some buildings must cover their sides (where there is the potential for future developments) in concrete (so the buildings can join up if/when they are built, while others (such as Telstra HQ) just get to build a glass facade the whole way up. I can't think of a good example of a building with a slad on the side of it at the moment, that CBD central equity tower that has been proposed is ringing a bell, but i'm not sure.

Icanseeformiles
October 27th, 2004, 08:18 AM
Yes I agree...why here?? it's not like we haven't got room elsewhere. maybe someone can clarify this reason.

As for Telstra workers loosing their view it think they would be used to it on account of all the windowless, featureless office and exchange boxes dotted all over the city.

Telstra doesn't seen to have a high priority regarding "vision" anyway.

What about the residents views too?

Possibly the Telsra workers will enjoy their new view MORE but thats a story for another thread.

finn
October 27th, 2004, 08:42 AM
I can't think of a good example of a building with a slad on the side of it at the moment, that CBD central equity tower that has been proposed is ringing a bell, but i'm not sure.

You mean like Optus House in Melbourne? That has a big blank wall doesn't it?

tayser
October 27th, 2004, 08:49 AM
i just wish it was to be more seen. being squashed between two big towers just ruins the cityscape,


how? have a building with a smaller envelope will usually have a more positive effect on the cityscape than a larger building competing for 'look at me' rights...


going on renders, this slab should of been more noticeble.
aw well

herein lies the major difference between 1990 and 2004: in 1990 organisations were still building for image & stature, in 2004 organisations are leasing towers where they will get profile and image & stature are less of a concern.

Apples. Oranges.

The single greatest thing about this project is streetscape side of things & its podium, it's almost an exact mirror of 242E's podium (integration of the old buildings) and I'm just a sucker for elevated walkways :D

tayser
November 3rd, 2004, 08:52 AM
nice surprise walking down Bourke Street for the first time in 6 weeks this morning:

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/projects/updates/cbd/uw/uw0311041.jpg

Muse
November 3rd, 2004, 05:58 PM
nice surprise walking down Bourke Street for the first time in 6 weeks this morningWhy? Because you saw hot-chicky-babe with black roots in ill-fitting suit strutting down the street? Oh, 'scuse moi!! That's what I saw lots of walking down George St in Sydney today ;)

tayser
November 4th, 2004, 12:13 AM
she wasn't hot, she was 40+ & all other stereotypes associated with that age, Muse.

:rofl: :runaway:

naw, I'd completely forgotten that the tower is going to be so visible from Bourke Street, and it's still got ages to go.

Favco750
November 4th, 2004, 08:51 AM
Hey Tayser, for some of us older bastards, 40+ and all those stereotypes are the best we can get, and we love 'em like there's no tomorrow:)

It's allright for all you young blokes, slinking around town in your metro gear at all hours of the night in bars that we could only dream of when we were your age.

AAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............... the memories..........................

plotstyle
November 4th, 2004, 11:29 AM
It's allright for all you young blokes, slinking around town in your metro gear at all hours of the night in bars that we could only dream of when we were your age.

AAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............... the memories..........................

funny you say that on the train on the way home i saw some 37 year woman throwup it stank and it was huge... then i had a 35 year woman say id go him will u come home with me then she started taking pictures of me and pointing

im feeling old now... how much worse can it get?

silvermb
November 4th, 2004, 11:59 AM
how much worse can it get?

read your above sentence...dyslexia!

Favco750
November 7th, 2004, 10:15 AM
Was there any action across the road from UW on the weekend??? Should Have Been!!

silvermb
November 7th, 2004, 10:26 AM
cbd east end thread

silvermb
November 9th, 2004, 12:48 PM
progressing nicely

ive never seen precast panels lowered into a core box prior to a pour to form part of the buildings core. nice view through to lonsdale st, its a floorplate that spans a city block

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/uw200411.jpg

tayser
November 9th, 2004, 12:52 PM
heh, that floorplate is going to swamp TeleSkank HQ like no tomorrow. Oh wait, it already is --> :banana:

No morning sun for you Tel$tra! :)

thanks for the more comprehensive update big chief.

tayser
November 9th, 2004, 01:09 PM
ok ok ok ok ok... how the fruit are the floors going to work????

it only just dawned on me after seeing the sloping rigs on the side of the floorplates in mb's above pic, that as the building rises the floors start sloping.. say what?

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/Urban-Workshop-01.jpg

fountainhead? anyone? how's that work? Is it just an illusion and floorplates will remain flat?

anyhow DSE employees will sure as shit have fun rolling jaffas down in between pods if they're all sloping floors :lol:

...I just can't quite get my head around it now.

uewepuep
November 9th, 2004, 01:18 PM
Isnt it just the floorplate coming towards you on an angle?

sakor1
November 9th, 2004, 01:48 PM
Yeah, that is what I thought, it just creates a bit of an optical illusion.... I am sure the floorplates are flat because it would not be an ideal working environment on a slope...

Stu

Favco750
November 9th, 2004, 01:53 PM
White crane getting ready for a climb, towers stacked neatly and in line with the crane and the photo showing the finishing of the installation of the tie are a bit of a giveaway. What's with all the red flags on the crane ropes???? Where is there F1 car races in the world this month, I noticed the same at YE5 & FWP yesterday as well.

Favco750
November 11th, 2004, 11:27 AM
The red flags on alot of the crane ropes at the moment have Canteen on them. Canteen is a charity for kids with cancer and building workers have supported this for a long time. When we did the UQ/CSIRO rebuild at St Lucia a few years ago, two of us raised $1500 odd bucks by shaving our heads from the blokes on site. Previously, bandana's badges and tee shirts were also sold. I had never seen the flags before though.

Icanseeformiles
November 12th, 2004, 06:58 AM
hehehe sloping floor plates! hehehe that made my day.
Look at the render...

Meldon
November 12th, 2004, 07:40 AM
The facade looks like it's going to have those little 'fins' between the glass panels, like 15 Exhibition. Is this the latest archi-trend?

Aussie Steve
November 21st, 2004, 02:53 AM
Thanks to silvermb, you can see some of the glass facade!

http://img70.exs.cx/img70/8026/qv200411.jpg

Muse
November 21st, 2004, 03:57 AM
The facade looks like it's going to have those little 'fins' between the glass panels, like 15 Exhibition. Is this the latest archi-trend?Seems to be. They have appeared on others including E&Y @ Latitude in Sydney and Bloomberg Tower in NYC.

Meldon
November 23rd, 2004, 06:02 AM
The core is up to 15 now...

CULWULLA
December 14th, 2004, 11:46 PM
bump

phi1ip
December 18th, 2004, 04:14 PM
Core was up to 16 last I saw. I must go on another photo-gathering excursion to mark the end of the construction year.

It occurs to me that having a 500 footer (or near enough) go up right beside Casselden is probably the best chance we have of getting the original spire put on top! What a line up that would be along Lonsdale Street:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/phi1ip/CasseldenPlace/LonsdaleStreet.gif

Adam from Oz
December 18th, 2004, 07:13 PM
I have seen the original spire for Casselden Place in an architecture book and on here. I don't remember a dome - it was just a spire that tapered quite a lot.

Who has the spire drawing pic? I would love to see it again.

If memory serves, it was grollo???

Cheers,

Adam

Aussie Steve
December 19th, 2004, 11:09 PM
WOW!!

That is the first time I have seen a pic of the spire & dome on top of Casselden Pl.

Now I wish they had built it, but as we all know, Melbourne doesn't ever finish its major buildings (GPO & State Parliament House)!

CULWULLA
December 19th, 2004, 11:49 PM
ie only seen a plan when i visisted caseeldon in 1991. ihadnt topped out yet and the plan was for a 40m antenna similar to 120 collins. no dome.

lozza
December 20th, 2004, 06:42 AM
WOW , that dome and spire sure would suit Casseldon Place heaps !

Its funny, the other day , A- Brain said that a dome would suit Casseldon really well, and to find that it was supposed to have one all along is just awesome ! I hope they decide to put the dome and spire on it one day !

CUL - Complain to the relvent people for me would ya !! hehe ! :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Cheers

Lozza :dj:

silvermb
December 20th, 2004, 11:42 AM
whoa that facade is a worry

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/uw200412.jpg

tayser
December 20th, 2004, 11:47 AM
I dunno - I think it's probably the best compromise you could get, what with über-conservative Telebitch HQ to the west and the pretty pink & blue Casselden to the East.

out on a limb: I'll most definitely wait for more than half to be covered up before judging.

I'm still freaked out by the slanting floor illusion though :cool:

Aussie Steve
December 21st, 2004, 12:51 AM
The glass facade looks great. It fits into what they want to create and that is a slick urban and modern environment, unlike its conservative neighbours.

Daffy
December 21st, 2004, 02:14 AM
That glass looks really icy; probably suit the Dept of Immigration people.

There was no dome in the original roof top; I think it was a 2 to 3 storey concrete slab faced drum with a spire like Telstra's. The financiers - Dept of Finance - wouldn't let it get built unless it's full cost was covered by rent paying tenants.

Icanseeformiles
December 21st, 2004, 02:36 AM
Here we go again!
ThereWAS to be a dome on top of Casselden. Even when it was under construction there was a render/ picture of the completed project (including Dome) on the corner of Spring Street. The picture was placed roughly where the small podium dome is now.

Daffy
December 29th, 2004, 01:47 AM
As I recall it, Icanseeformiles, the render on that board was not very accurate and the "dome" was a result of an exaggerated perspective of the building.

lozza
December 29th, 2004, 03:45 AM
^^^

Either way, it still should be built with the dome and spire ! :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Cheers

Lozza :rock:

Daffy
December 30th, 2004, 01:34 AM
I agree, it needs a spire but I would prefer the drum design instead of a dome.

tayser
December 30th, 2004, 09:01 AM
Think podium. (repost #224 :))

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/Urban-Workshop-05.jpg

ohhh yeah..

Muse
December 30th, 2004, 10:56 AM
Such an amazingly busy podium too.

Daffy
December 31st, 2004, 01:15 AM
....and the lady in te blue suit is striding purposefully towards a solid glass wall ... looks like the aimless criss crossing pedestrians you often see in TV shoes and movies.

uewepuep
January 11th, 2005, 02:49 AM
http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/2005-01-10%20Melbourne%20-%20Collins%20st%20and%20REB/IMG_5321.jpg

tayser
January 11th, 2005, 02:51 AM
winnnnahh shot dan.

awesome stitch job too. what are you using for it? Canon's bundled app?

The Collector
January 11th, 2005, 01:10 PM
Dan, you're getting to be quite a photographer! :okay:
Like tayser says. :)

tayser
January 11th, 2005, 01:56 PM
dan tells me (on IRC) that it's not a stitch job. in that case, everyone on their knees and worship dan's cam! :)

Blabbyboy
January 12th, 2005, 02:16 AM
i didn't realise that UW's length is perpendicular to the street!

christarrant
January 12th, 2005, 09:08 AM
dudes, have you seen this pics before ( off the hassel site ) coz theyre GREAT, apologies if theyre already posted in one of these 12 pages, havent had time to searach thru them all on a dial up modem.

http://www.hassell.com.au/projects/proj185_0.html

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/Urban-Workshop-05.jpg

http://www.hassell.com.au/siteImageStore/Urban-Workshop-01.jpg

Drunkill
January 21st, 2005, 02:05 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/drunkill/Urbwshp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/drunkill/Urbwshp4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/drunkill/Urbwshp1.jpg
lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/drunkill/Urbwshp3.jpg
From today.

kasperluke
January 30th, 2005, 11:59 AM
I feel like positng a couple more pictures! I like this green glass!

I know it is the same view but.......meh.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/UW1.jpg

http://members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/UW2.jpg

tayser
February 17th, 2005, 06:16 AM
http://thehoddlegrid.net/projects/updates/cbd/uw/uw1702051.jpg

Digital Zoom blows eh.

http://thehoddlegrid.net/projects/updates/cbd/uw/uw1702052.jpg

kasperluke
February 17th, 2005, 10:41 AM
Nice tays! So there has been one core rise on this one since I took my pics in late Jan.

tayser
February 17th, 2005, 10:46 AM
yeah - also look at Liverpool 16 (right side of lane, compare yours to mine :D)

CULWULLA
February 17th, 2005, 11:41 AM
wow, its moving along. im trying to work out height.
Are floors at level 15, and corebox with 21 inside?
looks good

silvermb
February 23rd, 2005, 12:51 PM
hammering along, piss poor facade?

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/uw200502.jpg

tayser
February 23rd, 2005, 02:01 PM
very piss poor, just a little too transparent for my liking.

Aussie Steve
February 24th, 2005, 12:58 AM
This building will be a great gap filler.

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/5589/401445589al1109143715.jpg

Blabbyboy
February 25th, 2005, 01:21 AM
as piss poor as all the other office projects going up.

plotstyle
February 25th, 2005, 12:08 PM
as piss poor as all the other office projects going up.

how much a sq. mtr?

whats your idea of the best office buildings in melb? and what where there costs?

the facade does have a cheap feel to it but ill what till its finished...

Grollo
March 17th, 2005, 03:31 PM
Level 23 exposed now:
http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/urban workshop web.jpg

Making a big impact on Lonsdale Street, three 150m+ buildings in a row ;-)
http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/urban workshop 5 web.jpg

I don't think the facade is looking that bad, at least it is different :-)
http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/urban workshop 2 web.jpg

Very narrow floorplate, the podium is going to look very funky:
http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/urban workshop 3 web.jpg

Very long floorplate, almost the length of an entire Melbourne block!
http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/urban workshop 4 web.jpg

sirbugalugs
March 17th, 2005, 03:51 PM
Another hospital shot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/sirbugalugs/IMG_3781_3.jpg

Aussie Steve
March 18th, 2005, 12:43 AM
Its a great building and filling in a gap in the CBD, but its a pity most people won't see it cos its so hidden. Oh well.

Icanseeformiles
March 18th, 2005, 07:04 AM
wow! lucky your mum is in hospital huh? 8)
Is she getting the feeling you are only visiting to take pictures out her window?
Just kidding. Glad she is on the mend. Best of luck to her.

Kylie
March 31st, 2005, 02:45 AM
For Culwulla - Level 24 exposed @ today

CULWULLA
March 31st, 2005, 02:50 AM
thanks, my guestimate was right. currently 100m high, 50m to go!
cheers.

salamagd
April 16th, 2005, 08:09 AM
Not much action in this thread! :)

Well, anyway, here's the core poking up:

http://img91.echo.cx/img91/3072/sscuw3pu.jpg

uewepuep
April 16th, 2005, 08:52 AM
I just remembered taking a photo of this little thing yesterday.
http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/2005-04-15%20Melbourne%20-%20Rialto%20Obs%20deck%20and%20Construction/IMG_6428.jpg

tayser
April 16th, 2005, 09:44 AM
Ziggy's loving it.

Aussie Steve
April 16th, 2005, 09:57 AM
Just drove past it this afternoon and it looks great from Lonsdale St. You can see it poking out from the corner of Elizabeth St. The core is at 26.

CULWULLA
April 16th, 2005, 04:41 PM
great pix guys. lev26/7 is approx 102m up. so 2/3 height. i think 150m is Casseldons first setback at top.

tayser
April 23rd, 2005, 10:41 AM
http://thehoddlegrid.net/projects/updates/cbd/uw/uw2304051.jpg

http://thehoddlegrid.net/projects/updates/cbd/uw/uw2304052.jpg

http://thehoddlegrid.net/projects/updates/cbd/uw/uw2304053.jpg

http://thehoddlegrid.net/projects/updates/cbd/uw/uw2304054.jpg

CULWULLA
May 25th, 2005, 04:45 AM
no piccies this month?
any idea how high core/floors are?
just updating monthly diagrams
cheers guys

skiesthelimit
May 25th, 2005, 10:51 AM
Geez it's been a while since UW has been updated! It's the forgotten project amongst all these 500fters! (hey it just falls short by like 4ft, but I'll be generous... :p)

kasperluke
May 25th, 2005, 11:36 AM
Was planning to go up tehre today but i slacked out due to rain! hehe! I haven't seen rain in a month i didn't know what to do! hehe nah was just slack! I'll take some pics tomorrow if I remember.