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Maroon Grown December 2nd, 2005, 04:52 AM BIG NEWS!!!!! :nocrook:
Bovis Lend Lease have submitted a DA for "TWIN" 24 storey commercial towers that will stand over 100m RL. They will stand where the current bus bridge access is now. The towers will be part of a rejuvination of the entire transit centre. Judging from what I have seen, it will also incorporate the Inner Northern Busway into it as well as redevelop the Interstate Bus Station in the basement.
http://www.ourbrisbane.com/public/DAServlet/933518?pagenumber=2
More info as I find out.
RENDERS (only 2 coz the files are massive - 23mg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Maroon1/RomaSt2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Maroon1/RomaSt1.jpg
GMAC December 2nd, 2005, 05:41 AM Fantastic, this is great news and about time they got rid of the eyesore that is this part of the transit centre. I must say though, the designs are a bit boring, 2 boring boxes sitting at one of the entrances to the CBD.
CULWULLA December 2nd, 2005, 06:03 AM none of the plans showed heights?
Maroon Grown December 2nd, 2005, 06:08 AM Fantastic, this is great news and about time they got rid of the eyesore that is this part of the transit centre. I must say though, the designs are a bit boring, 2 boring boxes sitting at one of the entrances to the CBD.
they are curved. you just can't tell from the renders.
and cul, i know, i couldn't find one plan with a maximim RL. The highest I found was 104m on L24. There was still a plantroom above it.
CULWULLA December 2nd, 2005, 06:13 AM ok, no rls at ground anywhere? i think its low rl there anhow. so maybe over 100m each.
Locke December 2nd, 2005, 06:20 AM Hmm, too many 100m office towers going up, they could sap demand for a bigger tower. Wish they would stack these two.
Design: 6/10 - Boring, but a good facade might make it respectable.
Height - 5/10 - 100m RL is nothing to get excited about.
So all up a score of 5.5 out of 10, somewhat dull and short. But at least it will rejuventate that area a bit.
Malt December 2nd, 2005, 06:38 AM lol Locke
Theyre fine. No complaints here, will bring height to the area which previously was not there, plus the designs are completely innoffensive and I do like them.
Maroon Grown December 2nd, 2005, 06:54 AM Hmm, too many 100m office towers going up, they could sap demand for a bigger tower. Wish they would stack these two.
Design: 6/10 - Boring, but a good facade might make it respectable.
Height - 5/10 - 100m RL is nothing to get excited about.
So all up a score of 5.5 out of 10, somewhat dull and short. But at least it will rejuventate that area a bit.
its on the most outer fringe of the widest section of the city. it would stand out like a wart on a dick. 100m is great for this area. 200m towers though down the street. :)
neilo63 December 2nd, 2005, 07:02 AM Excellent... now to demolish the feral black crow towers down the street.
GMAC December 2nd, 2005, 08:40 AM I spose they're not as bad as my first reaction, initially they just kept reminding me of lovett tower in Canberra. The facade looks good and they will do wonders for Roma St, I just would have liked twin towers like this to have some sort of angled roof, since every other building in the area has flat roofed I thought it would add some interest to that end of the skyline. But Im happy with it!
Orfeo December 2nd, 2005, 09:30 AM ok, no rls at ground anywhere?
Ground level is 14.30m RL
Overall I don't mind these buildings too much. The facade is a little interesting.
If you havn't seen it...a closer view.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/Orfeo4/rrm1.jpg
1_gtar December 2nd, 2005, 09:36 AM Fantastic, this is great news and about time they got rid of the eyesore that is this part of the transit centre. I must say though, the designs are a bit boring, 2 boring boxes sitting at one of the entrances to the CBD.
The current buildings aren't an eyesore. I reckon they look alright.And nobody respond to this or we'd be starting a long argument.
it would stand out like a wart on a dick.
You've used that analogy before. lol.
CULWULLA December 2nd, 2005, 10:31 AM thanks orilus & maroon. so when you say lev24 floor RL is 104m, not roof RL? and grd RL=14m, thus90m from grd to floor of lev24. So i measured this and overall height to plantroom is 100m above grd! actual roof works out to be 95m.
ill add to emporis
cheers
BrizzyChris December 2nd, 2005, 12:25 PM From the DA it looks like the whole Transit centre entrance and facade is being spruced up as well.
CHapmaN December 2nd, 2005, 12:40 PM the first render looks nice, nothing special but as malt said, nothing offensive. the facade has potential to make them pretty cool little buildings, i think 100m is the perfect height for thier location, anything considerably bigger would seem out of place but they're not too short to be noticed.
GMAC December 2nd, 2005, 12:53 PM 1 gtar I know you didnt want a response but I like the transit centre as it is, the eyesore I was talking about was the bus bridge.
Danubis December 3rd, 2005, 02:42 AM so if they're building it on top of that round bus entrance thing... how will the buses get onto the raised interchange?
JayT December 3rd, 2005, 05:39 AM Wow how did I miss this one? I really should look in the Queensland forum more often. This looks like a nice development - transit oriented ect. Should be good for that part of the city.
Orfeo December 3rd, 2005, 05:44 AM so if they're building it on top of that round bus entrance thing... how will the buses get onto the raised interchange?
A new interchange will be built in the basement level of the twins buildings. The current one will be redeveloped -
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4285/comm9pt.jpg
Danubis December 4th, 2005, 04:32 AM lol i wonder what they mean by 'conference space' since they have like five of them lol, are they just a bit of cement with some seats?? tehehe
nagelixin December 4th, 2005, 07:48 AM I think they will be themed conference centres.
Danubis December 4th, 2005, 08:44 AM I think they will be themed conference centres.
oh dear....
Brizzy-Mike December 4th, 2005, 11:04 PM I don't quite get the location in relation to the black stumps, is there a site map. Ground floor looks funky.
Maroon Grown December 5th, 2005, 12:51 AM lol i wonder what they mean by 'conference space' since they have like five of them lol, are they just a bit of cement with some seats?? tehehe
ive seen pics on the da of it. they are like small outdoor rooms. the file is massive it will take me ages to find it again. ill have a look for it at lunch.
Maroon Grown December 5th, 2005, 03:52 AM conference room pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Maroon1/RomaSt4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Maroon1/RomaSt3.jpg
GMAC December 5th, 2005, 05:16 AM Brizzy Mike that plan above is of the current bus hall floor, so all of the current bus driveway area will be converted to these conference, child care and fitness areas!!
Looks great!!! Although the conference rooms dont look very large.
nagelixin December 5th, 2005, 09:31 AM In King George Square today there was a Busway information stand. Not much to tell except they are still working out the path of the Roma Street tunnel.
Oriolus December 6th, 2005, 04:16 AM I don't quite get the location in relation to the black stumps, is there a site map. Ground floor looks funky.Here's a map. Correct me if I'm wrong but it's on the western side of the black Transit Towers (which by the way I love) where the round thing is.
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6397/transitcentre9kz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The facade sure is interesting, what with the freaky optical illusions and all. Don't know about the psycodelic podium though.
Maroon Grown December 6th, 2005, 04:31 AM ^^ yeah! where that circular ramp is!
Muse December 6th, 2005, 04:42 AM If it goes ahead, along with the approved Evolution = a big plus for that side of town :okay:
Now if only the 400 George St sub-divisions produced some good results blah blah...
JayT December 9th, 2005, 12:16 PM ^^
This end of town is heading for big things. I wouldn't be surprised if it had Brisbane's tallest one day.
Here is what the new city plan envisages for the Roma Street Precinct - a brand new railway station and square linking the city heart with Roma Street.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/8260/roma31tz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
This of course is at the other end to where the Transit Centre Towers are or may go.
mossnd December 9th, 2005, 01:29 PM A good move forward on that side of town. It’s been a bit dead for a long time (ever since Mac and East closed down), but now with Brisbane Square drawing more attention from the Story Bridge end to the Victoria Bridge side of town, things are getting interesting. There’s a lot of room for growth over there.
For those a bit in the dark about those Roma St ramps, they are the result of a design change after construction was well on the way, when the parking station was changed into one of the now, office towers. Some quick and clumsy design outcomes resulted.
Leesome December 10th, 2005, 02:39 AM JayT, is that pic something you've done yourself? or is it like an official bcc image?
Orfeo December 10th, 2005, 02:49 AM ^
it is a render from the bcc plan. You can see others at masterplan site (http://www.zone4.com.au/dev/masterplan/site)
nagelixin December 10th, 2005, 03:27 AM Also you have the recladding of Suncorp plaza and the Suncorp theatre/car park redevelopment into a residental tower.
Now only if they would redevelop the Carlton Crest....
GMAC December 10th, 2005, 12:20 PM Definitely, the Carlton Crest is hideous, and in such a prominent position!!!
Leesome December 10th, 2005, 12:38 PM Why is it that there are pics of federation square in the masterplan? *rhetorical question - just wanted to point it out...*
KJBrissy January 13th, 2006, 04:52 PM I would personally like to see three or four buildings all designed to fit in together at different heights at this spot and also over the railway station. This would look cool, it would make it easier for people to find the railway station and it wouldn't be as hot waiting for a train.
Also does anyone know what is going on the old Fire station site about 50m down the road??
TOCC January 13th, 2006, 06:13 PM look at all that undeveloped space in Roma Street there..hmmm one day that will tunrned into a crowning achievement of Brisbane developments.
nikko January 13th, 2006, 10:51 PM This would look cool, it would make it easier for people to find the railway station and it wouldn't be as hot waiting for a train.
Agree with you there, Roma. St really needs to be undercover. Not only does it look primitive, its also a waste of space that could be used for commercial or residential space.
Also does anyone know what is going on the old Fire station site about 50m down the road??
A brand new combined fire/ambulance station is being built there.
GMAC January 14th, 2006, 02:05 AM I think its inevitable that something will happen over the station, I was under the impression that eventually all of the tracks in that area would be covered with buildings to link up with countess st, its a bit of an eyesore at the moment, especially noticable now that Parklands is finished. As for the station itself, it kind of looks like it belongs in the country, not linked to a big concrete and black glass monolith of a building. But then, I would like to see all stations in Brisbane have a really modern upgrade to bring them inline with the bus stations.
Back to topic tho, these two buildings are a great start and the improved street appeal for Roma St, the first point of call for many visitors to Brisbane, is long overdue.
Orfeo January 31st, 2006, 04:28 AM Since there is a plant room above the last office level at 24, shouldn't the building be 25 levels? Anyway, total office space in each tower is 34,750sqm (or a total of 69,500sqm) so this development is pretty decent. The reorganisation, the first real upgrade since the centre was built in the 80's, should make is a much better facility. The close up of the cladding a few pages ago isn't for the proposed towers - it's for the two black office towers, which are to be reclad in 'natural colours'. The explanation for why seems to be that dark buildings don't fit Brisbane.....
The Holiday Inn will be left as is.
Orfeo February 9th, 2006, 02:35 PM From another threat
Good News for Empire Square!
Channel 10 today had a story about Empire Square and Brisbane's high rise boom...
And early signs are looking very positive for Empire Square's approval! They showed the deputy mayor David Hinchcliff looking over the renderings of the 'sleek and shiny' Empire Square, he said 'I think it's time for Brisbane to increase it's heights'! and 'that they city needs to grow'. Lots of shots of the renders we have seen.
Also showed the property council saying the city desperately needs new office towers.
They also showed rendering of a 44 storey tower on Queen Street which looked decent I forget which one it was, render look different, as well as renderings of the Transit Centre towers. Said if the towers are approved construction would start next year (didn't say which ones or if they meant all of them).
So in any case, looking good for Empire Square!
It also stated that these towers have 'peliminary approval'. Hopefully full approval will follow soon.
Brissy4me May 28th, 2006, 01:36 AM any updates on this redevelopment yet?
Muse July 27th, 2006, 05:12 AM Here is the latest info on the project coutresy of The Brisbane City Council Online Services. Take note of the sub-heading "Approvals being Sought"
http://www.ourbrisbane.com/public/DAServlet/933518
Also on the same page click under the sub-heading "Property Details"
Property 1 <--- Don't click here but on the page of the link provided above. It will take you to more info on the project.
Orfeo August 18th, 2006, 12:43 PM Approved!
neilo63 August 18th, 2006, 12:52 PM Thank the bloody lord.
Maroon Grown August 18th, 2006, 01:52 PM Approved!
Sweet! Roma St needs all the help it can get and 100m towers on the very fringe of the city is great!
SoulvisionQ1 August 18th, 2006, 01:53 PM So whens construction start?
Orfeo August 18th, 2006, 03:12 PM Keep in mind that the first stage of this project is the redevelopment of the station and re-cladding of the existing towers - the new towers may not start for several years.
Brissy4me August 18th, 2006, 08:58 PM Dammit!
KJBrissy September 29th, 2006, 02:31 AM For some reason in Prime Site today, they were talking about the development just getting preliminary approval this week. Whatever the case it looks like she'll be built!
SoulvisionQ1 October 1st, 2006, 05:26 AM http://www.news.com.au/sundaymail/story/0,23739,20493856-3102,00.html
Can anyone download the drawings?? I can't for some reason!
Orfeo October 1st, 2006, 05:28 AM ^
yep, not interesting or new. If you still want to see them, save, open with with microsoft picture viewer.
Brissy4me October 28th, 2006, 03:13 AM So the whole bus ramp and carpark will be demolished for this development?
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/cj_81_/DSC00431.jpg
SoulvisionQ1 October 28th, 2006, 03:25 AM ^^ Yeah it has to... no questions there.
SkyBoy October 28th, 2006, 08:16 AM I'm finding it hard to visualise inside my head how the busways will run parallel to the train lines. So are they going to build the busways beside the current train tracks by demolishing the platforms that aren't currently being used. Or are all the train tracks and the new busways going to 'shift' to a completely new spot?
And what will be built in the place where the current car parks and bus ramps stand as shown in the photo above??
Any renders anyone??:|
Malt October 28th, 2006, 10:26 AM Theres such a thing as going back 2 pages....
u nub
BIG NEWS!!!!! :nocrook:
Bovis Lend Lease have submitted a DA for "TWIN" 24 storey commercial towers that will stand over 100m RL. They will stand where the current bus bridge access is now. The towers will be part of a rejuvination of the entire transit centre. Judging from what I have seen, it will also incorporate the Inner Northern Busway into it as well as redevelop the Interstate Bus Station in the basement.
http://www.ourbrisbane.com/public/DAServlet/933518?pagenumber=2
More info as I find out.
RENDERS (only 2 coz the files are massive - 23mg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Maroon1/RomaSt2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Maroon1/RomaSt1.jpg
Orfeo December 26th, 2006, 06:49 AM Just when I thought this was over.....
Resubmission. (http://www.ourbrisbane.com/psf/servlet/Search/bcc/file/search?applicationForm.type=PSF&applicationForm.fileType=ra&applicationForm.appNum=962315)
The plan has changed from 2 towers to 1.
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4642/romanew2ne6.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2042/romanew1pv7.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8783/romanew3wj0.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5152/romanew4gc7.jpg
A nice comparison that emphases the good points of this chage.
1) the new building is taller, at 34 levels and 139m to roof (=151-12) with those white structures pushing the building past 140m
2) much nicer design for the tower, though very bulky....70,000sq m.
2) no more psycho technicolour base
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6826/romanew5kc2.jpg
Can someone change the thread title and correct emporis.
Danubis December 26th, 2006, 06:58 AM jesus, it looks as wide as bris square.
Messed Up December 26th, 2006, 06:58 AM Yeah it is a massive improvement. It is so much better looking as the previous design was already looking dated and very unexciting.
Malt December 26th, 2006, 07:17 AM definitely alot cooler. Great that its 40m taller and it looks so much better. yay!
Danubis December 26th, 2006, 07:20 AM so just makes the top 20 tallest buildings in 2009/10-
1. 283m - Vision
2. 240m - Empire Square
3. 240m - 480 Queen st
4. 207m - Aurora
5. 200m - Riparian
6. 192m - 549 Queen st
7. 180m - 275 George st
8. 174m - Central Plaza One
9. 162m - Waterfront Place
10.160m - Skyline Apartments
11.151m - Brisbane Square
12.150m - 400 George st
13.145m - M on Mary
14.145m - 111 George st
15.143m - 482-502 Adelaide st
16.142m - Riverside Centre
17.142m - New Transit Centre Building
18.138m - Charlote Towers
19.135m - AMP Centre
20.135m - Festival Towers
Locke December 26th, 2006, 07:21 AM WAY better design and 40m taller as well.
Good result all round.
Of course it would be great if it could be thinner and taller still, but I suppose this area has limits of some sort.
Still, good move!
WestEnderBender December 26th, 2006, 07:22 AM Looks great. This should pave the way for higher towers that far out of the city centre.
WestEnderBender December 26th, 2006, 07:24 AM ^^ Would you include 275 George St's spire in the height? I'd think maybe the top of the architectural feature, but not the spire... Still, nice list there Danubis!
Ausilencer December 26th, 2006, 07:25 AM Great design! I love it, I think it's a much better option than the original.
Danubis December 26th, 2006, 07:33 AM ^^ Would you include 275 George St's spire in the height? I'd think maybe the top of the architectural feature, but not the spire... Still, nice list there Danubis!
i just took the data str8 off emporis, i would argue to include riparians spire in its offical height if youre doing the same for vision.. but im sure thats another thread lol
ps - can someone please change the thread title appropriatly? cheers
BrizzyChris December 26th, 2006, 10:11 AM Way better design, and such a huge building now! Would this make it larger than Waterfront Place?
Danubis December 26th, 2006, 10:14 AM Way better design, and such a huge building now! Would this make it larger than Waterfront Place?
i reckon it might appear higher cause of the significant R/L
Maroon Grown December 26th, 2006, 11:56 AM Just when I thought this was over.....
Resubmission. (http://www.ourbrisbane.com/psf/servlet/Search/bcc/file/search?applicationForm.type=PSF&applicationForm.fileType=ra&applicationForm.appNum=962315)
The plan has changed from 2 towers to 1.
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4642/romanew2ne6.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2042/romanew1pv7.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8783/romanew3wj0.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5152/romanew4gc7.jpg
A nice comparison that emphases the good points of this chage.
1) the new building is taller, at 34 levels and 139m to roof (=151-12) with those white structures pushing the building past 140m
2) much nicer design for the tower, though very bulky....70,000sq m.
2) no more psycho technicolour base
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6826/romanew5kc2.jpg
Can someone change the thread title and correct emporis.
oh hell yeah :banana:
what a sick proposal. the twin towers did bore me a lil. 140m tower on the city fringe. great stuff!
CULWULLA December 26th, 2006, 02:22 PM i scaled the diagrams ( top of twin bledes )RL155m -grd floor=RL13m=
142m above Roma st.
yes its massive. at 90m wide!!
thats one big slab
Orfeo December 26th, 2006, 02:32 PM jesus, it looks as wide as bris square.
It's even wider:
BS is 71m across, or a ratio of 2.1m up for every 1m across
This baby, by my calculation, is about 87m across....or 1.6m up for every 1m across.
Would this make it larger than Waterfront Place?
If you mean in floor space, then yes....WP has about 60,000sqm. This should also become the building with the largest floor plates in Brisbane as well (also nicked from Waterfront Place).
Would you include 275 George St's spire in the height? I'd think maybe the top of the architectural feature, but not the spire... Still, nice list there Danubis!
The spire should be included because it is a purely architectural feature, similar to the spires of Q1 and Vision.
WestEnderBender December 26th, 2006, 03:23 PM so just makes the top 20 tallest buildings in 2009/10-
1. 283m - Vision
2. 240m - Empire Square
3. 240m - 480 Queen st
4. 207m - Aurora
5. 200m - Riparian
6. 192m - 549 Queen st
7. 180m - 275 George st
8. 174m - Central Plaza One
9. 162m - Waterfront Place
10.160m - Skyline Apartments
11.151m - Brisbane Square
12.150m - 400 George st
13.145m - M on Mary
14.145m - 111 George st
15.143m - 482-502 Adelaide st
16.142m - Riverside Centre
17.140m - New Transit Centre Building
18.138m - Charlote Towers
19.135m - AMP Centre
20.135m - Festival Towers
Isn't it funny that just 5 of the top 20 are from the old-school Brisbane (pre- current boom / pre- 2004)
Locke December 27th, 2006, 03:27 AM I'm actually surprised by the number of buildings nowadays that end up being resubmitted as better designs.
Stuff gets submitted and if it's shit then they get told to submit something better. It's brilliant.
Is this a push by Council to improve the standard after some of the shockers that got thru back in the nineties and early naughties?
If so then well done, give it a few years and we will start to see the fruit of these efforts.
Orfeo December 27th, 2006, 03:59 AM ^
as far as I can tell, the council has not influence in these resubmittions.
In this case, the site owners and develeopers decided that a single tower would be preferable to the duo, and go the architect to design arround this.
As an aside, the developers were going after telstra (won last week by 275 Adelaide), for which floor plates were desired...clearly they'll need to go after other tenants.
neilo63 December 27th, 2006, 06:40 AM Absolutely love the re-design. And the rest of the development refurbishment looks a lot classier too.
nagelixin December 27th, 2006, 07:06 AM All we need now is for someone to cover up the train station with a few towers to complete that part of town.
GMAC January 2nd, 2007, 03:16 PM Well I have just come back from holidays and what a New Years present this is for MEEEEEEE!!!!! So much better than the original design and should stretch this side of the city out quite nicely taking the height emphasis away from Oaks when looking from the river.
SkyBoy January 3rd, 2007, 03:02 AM I think this is going to be my favourite tower to be constructed in Brizzie after the "Three Musketeers".:cheers:
WestEnderBender January 3rd, 2007, 04:06 AM It very much looks like 400 George. I wonder how people will see the designs of today, in 20 years.
neilo63 January 3rd, 2007, 05:13 AM It very much looks like 400 George. I wonder how people will see the designs of today, in 20 years.
Not like we see the buildings of the 80's. :lol:
Locke January 6th, 2007, 03:32 AM It'll age well as long as it's not concrete. AMP and Comalco are still attractive buildings, can't say the same for the 70's concrete boxes with their dripping condensation marks running down the side of their yellow concrete.
Locke January 19th, 2007, 12:31 AM ..
Brizbane2 January 19th, 2007, 03:18 AM Cool Grimshaw! They do very high tech stuff. They recently designed the southern cross station building for Melbourne
Malt June 2nd, 2007, 01:20 AM cool
New DA is out... Thanks to Locke for finding this one! The blue looks much better IMO.
New hotness:
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1284/untitled1zt6.jpg
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/1200/untitled2bh9.jpg
KJBrissy June 2nd, 2007, 01:36 AM Now can they just build it!!!!
Aussie Bhoy June 2nd, 2007, 02:08 AM That is going to look awesome on Roma St
KJBrissy June 2nd, 2007, 04:58 AM Could the title be changed to read #Approved: Q Centre - 34st/142m/Office.
One source: http://www.propertylook.com.au/listing/default.asp?lk=81702
If you check google there are plenty of others.
Orfeo June 2nd, 2007, 05:26 AM One floor has been lost - now 33 levels and 136m RL
KJBrissy June 2nd, 2007, 05:30 AM ^^Missed that one...thanks.
BrizzyChris June 2nd, 2007, 06:30 AM I still count 34 from the renders.
Maroon Grown June 2nd, 2007, 07:59 AM i think this will date quickly
Orfeo June 2nd, 2007, 08:29 AM I still count 34 from the renders.
Go look at the plans.
CULWULLA June 2nd, 2007, 08:59 AM One floor has been lost - now 33 levels and 136m RL
so its it now RL136m? or 136m abovegrd?
the Rl at grd is 13m, so does this mean 123m above grd or is it RL149m?
Orfeo June 2nd, 2007, 09:12 AM ^
136m above ground.
CULWULLA July 13th, 2007, 11:14 AM web link and movie>
http://www.northquartercbd.com.au/buildings/buildings_06.html
construction phase
Brisbane Transit Centre - Latest BCI information -
Stage 1 - Podium car park anticipated 8 months construction;
includes podium entry ramp, demolition of ground and upper ground level car park, new ramp and circulation on level 1
Stage 1 Retail -anticipated 8 months construction;
Relocation of food court and retail to ground floor, refurbishment of existing retail, demolition of level 2 retail and level 3 coach deck.
Stage 1 will also involve podium facade and tower facade anticipated 12 months construction;
Stage 2 New Podium Level - anticipated 10 months construction;
Demolition of coach ramp and internal fit out of coach terminal, basement and ground level construction and fit out of retail areas, new podium car park extension, new podium facade and relocation of coaches to new coach level.
Stage 2 New Tower - anticipated 18 months construction;
81358 sqm above podium, 21 storey tower above podium for mixed use development - other components include child care centre, conference areas, gymnasium, multidwelling units, additional restaurants and shops, offices.
Project scope has changed, DA submitted for stages 1 and 2
NB only one tower now proposed for Stage 2
KJBrissy July 14th, 2007, 02:23 AM BTW this hasn't been approved yet. Could someone please change the thread title? Thanks
CULWULLA July 31st, 2007, 04:16 AM has this got 70,000sqm of office space? will be largest office tower in Brisbane?
KJBrissy October 8th, 2007, 08:02 AM Looks like the new design wont be long before it is approved. QT were dragging the chain on this one and it looks like according to the DA (http://pdonline.brisbane.qld.gov.au/MasterView/modules/applicationmaster/default.aspx?page=wrapper&key=A001638104) that they have submitted their conditions.
BrisbaneROCKS October 9th, 2007, 01:24 AM Meaning?
KJBrissy October 9th, 2007, 01:35 AM All the referral agencies (Queensland Transport, Main Roads etc) have given their approval and conditions and now it is just up to council.
BrisbaneROCKS October 9th, 2007, 04:19 AM So is it looking good? Are they likely to approve it, and soon? That area desperately needs this building and the refurbishment of the existing buildings to take place sooner rather than later. This would complete, well at least go a long way to, cap off the transition of the North Quarter. This tower would be the true western border of the CBD skyline too.
Rubber Duck December 13th, 2007, 06:05 AM DA Approved (http://pdonline.brisbane.qld.gov.au/MasterView/modules/applicationmaster/default.aspx?page=wrapper&key=A001638104) - though judging by this thread it's been approved for 6 months!
Roof RL148.035, ground RL12.9, therefore 135.135 above grd.
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z212/s359999/qcentre.jpg
KJBrissy December 13th, 2007, 07:20 AM ^^There seems to be a feature going above that RL148.035m height.
MyFavco December 14th, 2007, 02:32 AM DA Approved (http://pdonline.brisbane.qld.gov.au/MasterView/modules/applicationmaster/default.aspx?page=wrapper&key=A001638104) - though judging by this thread it's been approved for 6 months!
No, it has only just now been approvwed. There was some confusion earlier in this thread because of the old approved scheme for two towers was being referred to.
Were on earth are they going to find tenant pre-commitment for 70,000m2 NLA ?????? GPT has said they need partial precommitment before they will start. They are also refurbing 30,000m2 of the existing Transit Centre Office towers. Crazy ! some one should tell them the oversupply bust is on it's way.
Ausilencer December 14th, 2007, 02:01 PM No, it has only just now been approvwed. There was some confusion earlier in this thread because of the old approved scheme for two towers was being referred to.
Were on earth are they going to find tenant pre-commitment for 70,000m2 NLA ?????? GPT has said they need partial precommitment before they will start. They are also refurbing 30,000m2 of the existing Transit Centre Office towers. Crazy ! some one should tell them the oversupply bust is on it's way.
Suncorp are looking for about 40,000m2 so that would take a fair chunk up if they go for this...
Oriolus March 2nd, 2009, 03:44 AM When I found this thread and saw it hadn't been posted in for well over a year I thought this project was totally dead, which would be a real shame given its extremely high level of awesomeness...but I found a PDF about the Q Centre on the GPT website (http://www.gpt.com.au/GPTCorp/contentdocs/FactSheets/FactSheets_office_Qcentre.pdf) which is dated March 2009 - hot off the press. Nothing exciting really - they are still looking for pre-commitments, but at least the project is still alive.
http://i43.tinypic.com/3447h2q.jpg
OUTOFNOWHERE March 2nd, 2009, 03:51 AM When I found this thread and saw it hadn't been posted in for well over a year I thought this project was totally dead, which would be a real shame given its extremely high level of awesomeness...but I found a PDF about the Q Centre on the GPT website (http://www.gpt.com.au/GPTCorp/contentdocs/FactSheets/FactSheets_office_Qcentre.pdf) which is dated March 2009 - hot off the press. Nothing exciting really - they are still looking for pre-commitments, but at least the project is still alive.
http://i43.tinypic.com/3447h2q.jpg
I don't think there was is anyone alive who saw this coming! Wonderful news for Brisbane. This tower will certainly make an impression when viewing the CBD from Coro Drive!
Brizzy-Mike March 2nd, 2009, 03:55 AM Hopefully it will off-set some of the black stump look of the other buildings.
BrisbaneROCKS March 2nd, 2009, 04:02 AM Certainly would be. Let's hope this gets accross the line, as this far stretch of Roma Street still looks pretty horrible and remains the worst part of the CBD. The tower would nicely cap of the far western side of the entire skyline (particularly at a more than reasonable 135m, and would make the second Meriton tower less isolated), while the rejuvinated podium would spruce up the tired early 80's legacy the rest of Brisbane has thankfully shaked off.
MyFavco March 2nd, 2009, 04:03 AM .......which is dated March 2009 - hot off the press. Nothing exciting really - they are still looking for pre-commitments, but at least the project is still alive.
Don't read anything in to this document. They have merely updated the old version of the doc with a statement that they existing two towers will become avaiable Sep-09 (even though Telstra will be in 275 George well before then).
Read also the note which follows on the same page which lists the current projects, and states that: 'GPT has deferred the commencement of future projects until market conditions improve.' This new tower is classified as a 'Future Project' and is not current, i.e. it is deferred until a Tenant emerges.
It is also likely that they will need to continue with the refurb of the existing towers to secure a new tenant. This will keep them occupied for a little while.
This building is too big for our current leasing market.
KJBrissy March 2nd, 2009, 04:09 AM ^^Exactly.
I actually hope for a complete redesign of the whole precinct and not just an add on of the tower.
Brissy4me March 2nd, 2009, 06:46 AM Can one of you guys sign up as a tenant so this thing gets started??
Messed Up March 2nd, 2009, 08:27 AM Chances of anyone lining up to be a tennant for this one will be pretty remote. It will be years away before any company large enough that can lease a large number of floors emerges.
Orfeo March 2nd, 2009, 09:39 AM This project has always been listed as long term. I'd rather they begin the redesign of the rest of transit center first, as was the plan.
MyFavco March 2nd, 2009, 11:49 AM I'd rather they begin the redesign of the rest of transit center first, as was the plan.
They have actually finished the design for it. It involves the relocation of the bus departures to the lower deck and a full refurbishment of the food court. The timing on this component will also be dictated by the market.
CULWULLA March 2nd, 2009, 12:13 PM same height as sydney harbour bridge or westpac in adelaide/ ;-)
Oriolus March 2nd, 2009, 12:25 PM Can one of you guys sign up as a tenant so this thing gets started??Yeh, I'm sure if we all chipped in we could sign up SSC for 1sqm. We could get some space on the top floor and use it to host Brisbane meets. And 1sqm should be quite adequate for that purpose, based on previous attendances :D
MyFavco March 2nd, 2009, 12:42 PM ^^ Hang On there.
Two people turned up to the last Brisbane meet, just not at the same time though
[true story]
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