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RafflesCity March 10th, 2004, 05:43 AM 10 March 2004
SINGAPORE Labour Foundation (SLF) has shelved plans to build a residential and office development in the heart of Ang Mo Kio - a move that property consultants are in two minds about.
While they agree that it makes sense not to go ahead with the proposed 21-storey office building, especially given the weak office market, they believe the location is ideal for a condominium.
SLF had originally planned to build a 31-storey condominium on the 2.57ha site, alongside the office block and a new air-conditioned bus interchange.
It now plans to construct 'an integrated shopping mall-cum-bus interchange' instead, details of which will be released later.
Chesterton International associate director Nicholas Mak felt a condominium there could attract many potential home buyers because of its proximity to the MRT station and bus interchange.
'Ang Mo Kio is also a big established HDB estate and there would be strong demand from Housing Board dwellers looking to upgrade to a 99-year condo. I think it would have worked,' he said, adding that it could have sold for about $500 per sq ft.
Grandeur 8, a 99-year leasehold condominium also in Ang Mo Kio, was snapped up last year at an average price of $480 per sq ft.
While SLF said it had decided to scale down its plans because of the 'prevailing oversupply of office and residential space in the market', some believe it may also be due to the earlier controversy over the direct sale of the site to SLF, instead of putting it up for public tender.
That aside, analysts are in favour of the proposed mall and expect it to be 'commercially viable'.
Knight Frank executive director Tay Kah Poh gave the example of nearby Bishan Junction 8. Its entire office tower is being exchanged for additional shop space, as its retail rentals have more attractive returns.
'Retail is a good choice for the Ang Mo Kio town centre, as people can commute there easily to shop and eat. It's a sensible move.'
huaiwei March 10th, 2004, 11:40 AM What a pity.....but then again, they might add the extra towers in future anyway. ;) I hear from the chinese news they are building up only 1/4 of the available site.
kenmin March 10th, 2004, 12:55 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
What a pity.....but then again, they might add the extra towers in future anyway. ;) I hear from the chinese news they are building up only 1/4 of the available site. reduced by 1/4 or build only 1/4?? makes lotsa diff...
sometimes really wonder how some of the ppl in the civil service work. do they really think with their butt?? why did they tear down the area so early? can't they finalise everything first? the inconvenience they brought to us. :soapbox:
heirloom March 10th, 2004, 01:13 PM ummm just build the air con interchange first... most impt...
kenmin March 10th, 2004, 01:23 PM Originally posted by heirloom
ummm just build the air con interchange first... most impt... yar lor. they should have done in phases instead. build the most necessary first while the rest can wait. what for all wait together.
heirloom March 10th, 2004, 02:07 PM what's waiting anyway? only the interchange is it? and supermarket, but supermarket shifted somewhere not too far rite?
huaiwei March 10th, 2004, 02:17 PM Originally posted by kenmin
reduced by 1/4 or build only 1/4?? makes lotsa diff...
sometimes really wonder how some of the ppl in the civil service work. do they really think with their butt?? why did they tear down the area so early? can't they finalise everything first? the inconvenience they brought to us. :soapbox: What I here is build 1/4 of the site....
Dunno why they suddenly stop the development halfway, then decide this should be done. I tot they got so much money can do anything with it one. Or maybe they feel gulty about the way the site was dished to them on a platter....:D
Actually hor....NTUC Centre was dished out to them leh. :colgate:
huaiwei March 10th, 2004, 02:20 PM Originally posted by heirloom
what's waiting anyway? only the interchange is it? and supermarket, but supermarket shifted somewhere not too far rite? Er...the supermarket become a makeshift thing beside the temp interchange wat....
kenmin March 10th, 2004, 02:22 PM Originally posted by heirloom
what's waiting anyway? only the interchange is it? and supermarket, but supermarket shifted somewhere not too far rite? the supermart now is temp only though it's big!
they tore down the interchange and supermart building cos they tot the area was too underutilised...
besides the interchange, they intended to build shopping centres, offices, condos etc... too ambitious and look at what's happening in the end? back to square 1, albeit larger shopping space, i suppose. :bash:
kenmin March 10th, 2004, 02:25 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
What I here is build 1/4 of the site....
Dunno why they suddenly stop the development halfway, then decide this should be done. I tot they got so much money can do anything with it one. Or maybe they feel gulty about the way the site was dished to them on a platter....:D
Actually hor....NTUC Centre was dished out to them leh. :colgate: what i read is scale down fr 2.5ha to 1.9ha. that's around 3/4 lor.
i think gotta do with the budget cutting here and there. no more extra cash for them 2 spend liao lar. then shouldn't have done it in the first place.
huaiwei March 10th, 2004, 02:38 PM Area underutilised as in the land area used by the interchange is too big loh....considering its hot property, its quite a waste.
Most of our previous generation bus interchanges will be demolished one by one and replaced lah.
Interchanges to be retained:
Bishan
Bukit Merah
Hougang Central
Punggol (new one u/c)
Sengkang
Sembawang
Woodlands
Yishun (may be demolished according to previous plans)
Interchanges recently demolished and replaced:
Hougang South (replacement in Hougang Central)
Toa Payoh
Interchanges in the replacement process:
Ang Mo Kio
Interchanges to be demolished and replaced:
Bedok
Boon Lay
Bukit Batok
Bukit Panjang
Choa Chu Kang
Clementi
Eunos (may have no replacement)
Jurong East
Pasir Ris
Serangoon
Tampines
huaiwei March 10th, 2004, 02:42 PM Originally posted by kenmin
what i read is scale down fr 2.5ha to 1.9ha. that's around 3/4 lor.
i think gotta do with the budget cutting here and there. no more extra cash for them 2 spend liao lar. then shouldn't have done it in the first place. Maybe I hear wrong from the news loh. Anyway, maybe budget cut 2% thats why not much cash left for extra frills? :D
kenmin March 10th, 2004, 02:46 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Area underutilised as in the land area used by the interchange is too big loh....considering its hot property, its quite a waste.
Most of our previous generation bus interchanges will be demolished one by one and replaced lah.
Interchanges to be retained:
Bishan
Bukit Merah
Hougang Central
Punggol (new one u/c)
Sengkang
Sembawang
Woodlands
Yishun (may be demolished according to previous plans)
Interchanges recently demolished and replaced:
Hougang South (replacement in Hougang Central)
Toa Payoh
Interchanges in the replacement process:
Ang Mo Kio
Interchanges to be demolished and replaced:
Bedok
Boon Lay
Bukit Batok
Bukit Panjang
Choa Chu Kang
Clementi
Eunos (may have no replacement)
Jurong East
Pasir Ris
Serangoon
Tampines
the next should be Serangoon rite? together with CCL... but i think they should do something to Clementi first... the interchange is pathetic.
but after AMK fiasco, i think most ppl will not welcome such an idea... just like the upgrading... :nono:
actually interchanges like Hougang is also wasting lotsa prime land... why they r retaining it? too new?
heirloom March 10th, 2004, 02:49 PM well i dont really think its a frill...apartments are money spinners... they're really wasting land there by just building a mall. and i pray the mall looks nice. no more liu thai ker style please.
huaiwei March 10th, 2004, 02:52 PM Originally posted by kenmin
the next should be Serangoon rite? together with CCL... but i think they should do something to Clementi first... the interchange is pathetic.
but after AMK fiasco, i think most ppl will not welcome such an idea... just like the upgrading... :nono:
actually interchanges like Hougang is also wasting lotsa prime land... why they r retaining it? too new? Serangoon will depend on how well they can sell the site loh. Jurong East and Bukit Panjang also seem to be prime candidates soon.
Hougang Central ah? Hmm....it actually have quite a combact design aka Bishan, but no car park on top. Notice they stopped having the end-on berth liao, in favour of the sawtooth berth system? And it was built to intergrate well with the MRT station mah. I think at that time they didnt anticipate building over an MRT station, and reconned that a bus interchange is that best use for that space?
If anyting, Yishun would be the one which uses the most space! :D I also wonder if they are going to do anyting about Bukit Merah...pertetic building...
heirloom March 10th, 2004, 02:58 PM bishan interchange should be given at least renovation. it looks quite terrible. and of course, air-con.
kenmin March 10th, 2004, 03:17 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Serangoon will depend on how well they can sell the site loh. Jurong East and Bukit Panjang also seem to be prime candidates soon.
Hougang Central ah? Hmm....it actually have quite a combact design aka Bishan, but no car park on top. Notice they stopped having the end-on berth liao, in favour of the sawtooth berth system? And it was built to intergrate well with the MRT station mah. I think at that time they didnt anticipate building over an MRT station, and reconned that a bus interchange is that best use for that space?
If anyting, Yishun would be the one which uses the most space! :D I also wonder if they are going to do anyting about Bukit Merah...pertetic building... with BTL and JRL? then Tampines too when ERL is built...
but how come they know they should have more things above Sengkang, Punggol, Clarke Quay :puke: stations... another cock up i think. :ohno:
Bukit Merah is decent compared to Clementi... at least it still keep u fr the rain.
huaiwei March 10th, 2004, 03:25 PM Originally posted by kenmin
with BTL and JRL? then Tampines too when ERL is built...
but how come they know they should have more things above Sengkang, Punggol, Clarke Quay :puke: stations... another cock up i think. :ohno:
Bukit Merah is decent compared to Clementi... at least it still keep u fr the rain. I wasent thinking in terms of the rail lines, but Bukit Panjang has always been a temporary structure lah.....so it seems as thou they were anticipating a more premanent thing soon.
Jurong is because I have seen the new plans for the Jurong East Regional centre. Construction would have to start once they start rebuilding the road system there.
Whats wrong with Sengkang, Punggol, and Clarke Quay??
kenmin March 10th, 2004, 03:40 PM Originally posted by huaiwei Whats wrong with Sengkang, Punggol, and Clarke Quay?? about why they only built an interchange above Hougang but more on top of the other 3 stations.
huaiwei March 10th, 2004, 03:53 PM Originally posted by kenmin
about why they only built an interchange above Hougang but more on top of the other 3 stations. Hm...Hougang interchange only covers half of the hougang station box leh....the other half is slated for more intensive commercial developments anyway. ;)
In general, I think its more bec during that era, the concept of an all-in-one town centre has not materialised yet loh. Sengkang is the first one that I know of, the Pungool the next. Toa Payoh is a mix of this concept plus the one at Woodlands?
Clarke quay is just a simple case of building over an underground station mah...just like wat is going to happen over Tanjong Pagar, Outram and Orchard? In fact, I think Tiong Bahru is one of the earliest in this development. Most other underground stations are underneath roads thou.
huaiwei March 16th, 2004, 10:14 PM This is the belated article about that AMK fiasco:
AMK centre to get mall instead of planned condo
SINGAPORE Labour Foundation (SLF) has shelved plans to build a residential and office development in the heart of Ang Mo Kio - a move that property consultants are in two minds about. While they agree that it makes sense not to go ahead with the proposed 21-storey office building, especially given the weak office market, they believe the location is ideal for a condominium.
SLF had originally planned to build a 31-storey condominium on the 2.57ha site, alongside the office block and a new air-conditioned bus interchange. It now plans to construct 'an integrated shopping mall-cum-bus interchange' instead, details of which will be released later.
Chesterton International associate director Nicholas Mak felt a condominium there could attract many potential home buyers because of its proximity to the MRT station and bus interchange. 'Ang Mo Kio is also a big established HDB estate and there would be strong demand from Housing Board dwellers looking to upgrade to a 99-year condo. I think it would have worked,' he said, adding that it could have sold for about $500 per sq ft. Grandeur 8, a 99-year leasehold condominium also in Ang Mo Kio, was snapped up last year at an average price of $480 per sq ft.
While SLF said it had decided to scale down its plans because of the 'prevailing oversupply of office and residential space in the market', some believe it may also be due to the earlier controversy over the direct sale of the site to SLF, instead of putting it up for public tender.
That aside, analysts are in favour of the proposed mall and expect it to be 'commercially viable'. Knight Frank executive director Tay Kah Poh gave the example of nearby Bishan Junction 8. Its entire office tower is being exchanged for additional shop space, as its retail rentals have more attractive returns. 'Retail is a good choice for the Ang Mo Kio town centre, as people can commute there easily to shop and eat. It's a sensible move.'
RafflesCity March 18th, 2004, 04:36 AM So dissapointing!:bleep:
huaiwei March 18th, 2004, 10:44 AM Originally posted by RafflesCity
So dissapointing!:bleep: But at least the site is "semi developed," allowing for future additions? ;)
babystan03 May 16th, 2004, 03:23 PM MAY 16, 2004
WORK to rejuvenate the Ang Mo Kio town centre will begin after a delay of two years, with construction of a new shopping mall on a plot of land opposite Ang Mo Kio MRT station starting later in the year.
The project is scheduled to start 'in a few months' time' and 'residents can be assured there'll be a new mall up in the first half of 2007,' said an MP for Ang Mo Kio GRC, Mr Seng Han Thong, at the launch of an upgrading project on Sunday.
The S$325-million project will include a three-storey shopping centre connected to a bus interchange and the MRT station.
The old interchange, along with a three-storey building that housed a supermarket and retail outlets, were demolished in early 2002.
The interchange and supermarket were then moved to a temporary location farther up the street on Ang Mo Kio Ave 8, causing inconvenience for some residents.
Construction of the new mall and bus interchange was put on hold after the Singapore Labour Foundation, in charge of building on the plot of land, went back to the drawing board in 2001 to revise its plans because of 'changing economic conditions'. The original plan was to put up a 31-storey condominium and a 21-storey office block and an air-conditioned bus interchange.
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Copyright @ 2004 Singapore Press Holdings. All rights reserved.
heirloom May 16th, 2004, 03:42 PM no pics?
RafflesCity May 16th, 2004, 03:43 PM so angry they removed the towers!
Looks like AMK has lost its highrise competition with Bishan.
babystan03 May 16th, 2004, 03:44 PM Nope....unfortunately.....
huaiwei May 16th, 2004, 03:48 PM so angry they removed the towers!
Looks like AMK has lost its highrise competition with Bishan.
Very pissified here too. Whts wrong with building that damn condo?! :bash:
babystan03 May 17th, 2004, 05:52 AM Found a picture of the original plan on the net.....
http://www.at3.com.sg/Images/Project/AMK2.jpg
heirloom May 17th, 2004, 09:47 AM pity :/ will there be a roof garrrden?
huaiwei May 23rd, 2004, 04:38 PM pity :/ will there be a roof garrrden?
What roof garden? I dont see it in the rendering?
heirloom May 23rd, 2004, 05:18 PM um just asking
huaiwei May 23rd, 2004, 05:22 PM um just asking
Chey.....You think every building got garden somewhere one ah? :D
I wonder when they will show the rendering of the new plans...
heirloom May 23rd, 2004, 06:05 PM yar... i thought there's a big push towards eco frinedly features in buildings... roof gardens are probably the most obvious eco friendly thing
redstone May 23rd, 2004, 06:08 PM Wah biang ,I was so hopeful of finally getting a shopping mall in my district.Now ,smaller ,minus office and condo! :bash:
babystan03 May 23rd, 2004, 06:11 PM Wah biang ,I was so hopeful of finally getting a shopping mall in my district.Now ,smaller ,minus office and condo! :bash:
Haha.....i'm sure most ppl will share your "grief"....:D
Anyway, it's better than nothing, you dun see them building one in my neighbourhood(not even mention) :bash:
redstone May 23rd, 2004, 06:13 PM Where you stay?
heirloom May 23rd, 2004, 06:15 PM haha i think the streets in bedok should be made into a bugis junction style thing... now only one semi-interesting store... body shop... ok two... bee chang hiang bak kwa :D
redstone May 23rd, 2004, 06:18 PM U live there?
heirloom May 23rd, 2004, 06:20 PM no but my friend does
babystan03 May 23rd, 2004, 06:32 PM I live in the place where heir's friend lives.......:D
ignoramus December 3rd, 2005, 12:02 PM © ignoramus
Ang Mo Kio Bus Interchange & Shopping Centre
They are digging real deep! From Ang Mo Kio Station Platform, you can see they are digging at least 4 basement levels down... Nothing above the ground yet, just a lot of digging underground... Its a giant hole...
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7761/dsc000653lr.jpg
Pengui December 3rd, 2005, 03:36 PM Isn't there going to be a MRT interchange with Circle Line here as well ?
That might explain the excavation's depth.
babystan03 December 3rd, 2005, 03:59 PM Isn't there going to be a MRT interchange with Circle Line here as well ?
Not really.......:yes:
ignoramus December 3rd, 2005, 04:52 PM Isn't there going to be a MRT interchange with Circle Line here as well ?
That might explain the excavation's depth.
Definitely no. The North South Line only intersects with the Circle Line @ Dhoby Ghaut & Bishan Station.
Mr.ASAP December 3rd, 2005, 09:23 PM yes there will not be any MRT lines crossing AMK.....i guess they are digging deep for foundations and basement carparks ...something like Toa Payoh HDB Hub ....kind of centre :)
Pengui December 4th, 2005, 03:49 AM My mistake ^ ^
babystan03 December 10th, 2005, 04:08 PM Is there any rendering for the project? :?
Cliff December 11th, 2005, 04:23 AM Yeah, on the fence of the construction site, looks very average. Its the same one on exhibit at LKC Refernce library.:)
babystan03 December 11th, 2005, 04:43 AM Yeah, on the fence of the construction site, looks very average. Its the same one on exhibit at LKC Refernce library.:)
Is it still on exhibition?? :?
Pengui May 20th, 2006, 10:13 AM Damn I thought there was a rendering already in the thread, I didn't shoot the board :-)
By the way I've seen two different renderings for this project. The one currently at the site only shows the mall.
I've seen another one on a public board notice with the same mall design, plus two highrises (about 20 storeys). One looked like an office tower, a bit similar to JTC Summit, another one was apparently a condo tower. The notice was all in chinese so I couldn't quite read it :-(
Anyway, here's an update...
19th May
http://membres.lycos.fr/pengssc/img/060520_angmokio_mall01.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/pengssc/img/060520_angmokio_mall02.jpg
No hole anymore ^ ^
Singapor3 May 20th, 2006, 01:05 PM Hmm,air-conditioned bus interchange?
Cliff May 21st, 2006, 04:50 AM the one with the towers was cancelled:(
Pengui May 21st, 2006, 05:25 AM I can't say I'm surprised, there's nothing that look like it could become a highrise core on the site.
Blah :-p
If I see the notice again, somewhere, I'm gonna try to get a pic of it ;-)
RafflesCity May 21st, 2006, 06:27 AM That is sure a massive site!
Thanks for the update....its one of the major town centre redevelopments
hyacinthus May 21st, 2006, 10:02 AM when will it be ready? early 2008?
blizzardtweaker May 22nd, 2006, 05:28 PM asumming the structure there is for the mall, what about the part that is left untouched? very excited for this project, coz there would be a new mall within walking distance from my school! (hope i'll still be der when its done)
Pengui May 27th, 2006, 07:43 AM The rest of the site should be for the bus interchange, I guess.
blizzardtweaker May 28th, 2006, 06:17 PM acording to the original plan, bus interchange was suppose to be underground right?
Pengui May 29th, 2006, 08:24 AM I have no idea :-)
Then I don't know, plaza maybe ?
^tamago^ May 29th, 2006, 12:45 PM I seen somewhere says that it'll be ready by end of next year (2007). They're going very fast with the construction...
Pengui June 30th, 2006, 04:54 PM 29/30th June
Very fast indeed ^ ^
Seen from above:
http://ssc.singapenguin.net/06/060629_ang_mo_kio_mall01.jpg
Seen from street level... Quite impressive ! :-)
http://ssc.singapenguin.net/06/060630_ang_mo_kio_mall01.jpg
Seen from MRT station platform level:
http://ssc.singapenguin.net/06/060630_ang_mo_kio_mall02.jpg
hyacinthus June 30th, 2006, 04:55 PM It's about 5 storeys?
Pengui June 30th, 2006, 05:00 PM It's about 5 storeys?
More like 4 I think, but your average mall storey is easily 4 or 5 metres nowadays :-)
RafflesCity June 30th, 2006, 05:01 PM Thanks Pengui
Its great that you can take regular updates of this project now :yes:
Pengui June 30th, 2006, 05:07 PM ^^ I had some troubles finding a nice staircase ^ ^ Lotsa very tall trees blocking the view around the site ;-)
nolimit July 2nd, 2006, 07:27 AM Picture taken on 01/07/06
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/4001/img03905km.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8496/img03836zh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
^tamago^ July 17th, 2006, 07:30 PM thanks all for the pics. how come this thread kena buried ah? lol.
i took last morning.
http://cloud85.iespana.es/jul06/amki/DSC_0001.jpg
http://cloud85.iespana.es/jul06/amki/DSC_0002.jpg
http://cloud85.iespana.es/jul06/amki/DSC_0003.jpg
http://cloud85.iespana.es/jul06/amki/DSC_0005.jpg
http://cloud85.iespana.es/jul06/amki/DSC_0006.jpg
http://cloud85.iespana.es/jul06/amki/DSC_0008.jpg
http://cloud85.iespana.es/jul06/amki/DSC_0009.jpg
http://cloud85.iespana.es/jul06/amki/DSC_0010.jpg
http://cloud85.iespana.es/jul06/amki/DSC_0011.jpg
babystan03 July 18th, 2006, 12:04 AM ^ Nice update....:yes:
Here's some news about the mall....:yes:
Business Times - 17 Jul 2006
CapitaLand is top contender to run Ang Mo Kio mall
Project developed jointly by SLF, Income, FairPrice slated for opening in May next year
By UMA SHANKARI
CAPITALAND is poised to gain a monopoly of malls in the Ang Mo Kio-Bishan area. BT understands that the property giant's retail division is the front-runner to win the contract to manage the upcoming shopping centre in Ang Mo Kio central, which is expected to open in March next year.
http://business-times.asiaone.com/mnt/media/image/launched/2006-07-17/BT_4445142_17_07_2006.jpg
New hangout: Only half of the mall's space will be open to retailers as at least half must be taken up by SLF, NTUC or their affiliates and other non-profit institutional users
Together with Junction 8 in Bishan, CapitaLand will operate two malls within one train stop from each other.
The mall in Ang Mo Kio, now under construction, is being jointly developed by the Singapore Labour Foundation (SLF), NTUC Income and NTUC FairPrice.
SLF acquired the site for the mall from the government at a reduced rate in 2002 after bypassing the usual bidding process - a move that drew fire from developers and retailers.
In response, the Singapore Land Authority, the Urban Redevelopment Authority and the SLF explained that the land was directly sold to the SLF at a 'fair market value' because 40 per cent of the development would comprise public and non-institutional uses.
SLF had originally planned to build a 31-storey condominium on the 2.57 ha site, alongside an office block and a new air-conditioned bus interchange. But in 2004, it said that it would construct 'an integrated shopping mall-cum-bus interchange' instead.
The project is now on the verge of completion. The mall will have a gross floor area of 48,250 sq m, and the net lettable area is estimated to be 32,500 sq m.
Construction is due to be completed by the first quarter of next year, and most of the shops will be open by March, said Knight Frank property consultancy. The grand opening is scheduled for May.
The project will be managed by SLF Management Services, which together with Knight Frank is now looking for tenants. Knight Frank confirmed that the mall is on the lookout for a professional mall management company.
Whoever runs the mall will be restricted by conditions that came with the subsidised price tag.
At least 50 per cent of space has to be let out to the SLF, the National Trades Union Congress (NTUC) or their affiliates and related organisations, private companies majority-owned either individually or jointly by SLF, NTUC, its affiliates and other related organisations, other non-profit institutional users, and users of the bus interchange.
The new mall is expected to face stiff competition from Junction 8, which has established itself as the suburban mall of choice for shoppers in the area.
To overcome all this, the new mall will be marketing itself differently - as a place to cater to everyone in the family. There will be a 'learning hub', which could take up an entire floor. And another floor could be devoted to entertainment, with plans under way for an eight-screen cineplex.
Knight Frank also hopes to line up an exciting retail landscape for residents of Ang Mo Kio, despite being able to devote only half of the mall to retail.
Retail group RSH (formerly known as Royal Sporting House), which distributes labels such as Mango and Bebe in Singapore, and Esprit could both open stores within the shopping centre.
NTUC's FairPrice will be one of the anchor tenants, operating a 7,110 sq m hypermarket.
Copyright © 2005 Singapore Press Holdings Ltd. All rights reserved.
redstone July 18th, 2006, 04:22 PM Looks very small and budget. :(
RafflesCity July 19th, 2006, 04:12 PM its hightime Ang Mo Kio town centre got an upgrade anyway...it was starting to look a little old IMO.
blizzardtweaker July 21st, 2006, 05:05 PM small? u cant ask for that much, with J8 just a couple-a-hundred metres away...
babystan03 July 21st, 2006, 05:54 PM actually 32500 sq m is about as big as Tampines Mall which I dun think it's that small......:yes:
CT July 21st, 2006, 08:51 PM For someone staying in AMK, it's been too long a wait. It's obvious that the allotment of half the mall to non-profitable institutions was to justify for the direct sale to SLF. Let's hope this will turn out to be a gain for AMK residents... One thing for sure, J8 has gained from the past 5 yrs and will only continue to gain since there won't be too many competing retail labels here.
babystan03 July 22nd, 2006, 12:44 AM For someone staying in AMK, it's been too long a wait. It's obvious that the allotment of half the mall to non-profitable institutions was to justify for the direct sale to SLF. Let's hope this will turn out to be a gain for AMK residents... One thing for sure, J8 has gained from the past 5 yrs and will only continue to gain since there won't be too many competing retail labels here.
I feel both malls would be complementary since they are so close to each other.......:yes:
blizzardtweaker July 22nd, 2006, 04:30 PM I feel both malls would be complementary since they are so close to each other.......:yes:
well i assume they r supose to, after its renovation, J8 has been slightly more teen-based with a whole new annex dedicated to teens (n F&B)
since amk mall is family-oriented, it sound complementary
o n whats the final name of the mall? it shouldnt be AMK MALL.... sound abit wrong
babystan03 September 5th, 2006, 07:57 AM Any updates??:?
ddes October 22nd, 2006, 03:52 PM Y no pics? I wish i had a camera...
I've been passing this project everyday and the progress is amazing. They have begun cladding the building in green glass, with black tiles and red clads.. I don't know how to explain.
One of the tenants is Cathay Cinemas. Accidentally found that out when I was attempting to book tickets for The Departed online. It will open this May.
redstone October 22nd, 2006, 05:31 PM WAH!!!! There's a cinema?! :eek:
What's the name of this mall? Still nameless?
Cliff October 22nd, 2006, 05:32 PM YAY! AMK is finally getting what it deserves!
RafflesCity October 23rd, 2006, 03:34 AM Any updates??:?
yah..anyone staying Ang Mo Kio? :D
tahoo October 23rd, 2006, 06:25 AM I am staying @ AMK. Construction for this project is progressing very fast... Workers are working still late nite to rush out this project.
Can't wait for it to be ready :)
littlearea October 23rd, 2006, 06:49 AM Installation of windows some of them completed.
redstone October 23rd, 2006, 01:50 PM Nameless, mysterious mall.... :eek:\
I find the giant cube cantilivering towards Big Mac Centre quite intimidating. :lol: :runaway:
littlearea October 23rd, 2006, 02:05 PM The naming of the mall is call "AMK Hub" (as stated on the AMK central map). But lack of creative as the "Hub" used for HDB Hub.:?
redstone October 23rd, 2006, 02:31 PM AMK Hub????
That's an awful name
tahoo October 24th, 2006, 05:41 PM I remember there was a naming contest?... and they came out with such a lousy name?...
Update: the overhead bridge is almost done..... direct access to the second floor.
redstone October 24th, 2006, 05:54 PM There was?
Is "AMK" the official name for the mall? Or is it just the abbreviation of "Ang Mo Kio"?
littlearea October 25th, 2006, 03:11 PM I am not very sure but mostly use "AMK" instead of "Ang Mo Kio".:|
Cliff October 25th, 2006, 03:27 PM AMK HUB??!!
littlearea October 25th, 2006, 03:34 PM This might be use for official name of the mall.
tahoo October 25th, 2006, 03:53 PM Ai yoh.. like no class leh.. How about tomatotown, Ang Mo Kio Point.. haha...
Any idea when will this shopping center open? Any confirmed tenant?
littlearea October 25th, 2006, 03:59 PM Not sure who is the tender, but i remember the news was capitaland to run the mall.
ddes October 25th, 2006, 06:41 PM I believe there was no tender. The project was given to NTUC, I heard.
I hope they really use "AMK" in AMK Hub. It'd be awkward to call it Ang Mo Kio Hub. Anyway "AMK" reminds me of Mah Boon Krong or MBK Shopping Centre in Bangkok, I keep reminding myself that to console myself over the AMK Hub name.
redstone October 25th, 2006, 07:55 PM Jubilee Point sounds nice but tacky.
ddes October 26th, 2006, 05:03 PM Just passed by AMK Hub, they have a banner hanging at the entrance to the new bus interchange.
"AMK Hub Topping Out Ceramony, Friday, 27 October, Invited Guests Only"
babystan03 October 27th, 2006, 05:36 AM Just passed by AMK Hub, they have a banner hanging at the entrance to the new bus interchange.
"AMK Hub Topping Out Ceramony, Friday, 27 October, Invited Guests Only"
AMK hub?? hmmm......sounds common......:lol:
redstone October 27th, 2006, 06:15 AM AMK Hub.... :lol: hate that name la... :lol:
Maverick713 October 27th, 2006, 08:30 AM AMK Hub.... :lol: hate that name la... :lol:
Sound so generic and functional, just like all the street names in AMK!
Mr.ASAP October 27th, 2006, 08:39 AM just keep it as it is--> AMK Central....no need for any ''modern/silly/hip'' names
littlearea October 27th, 2006, 10:29 AM Is it's change the name to "The Mall@AMK"(the name i suggested), not sure the sound awful or not.
^tamago^ October 27th, 2006, 11:25 AM AMK Hub to be completed early next year
27 October 2006 1540 hrs (SST) 0740 hrs (GMT)
SINGAPORE: AMK Hub, a seven-storey retail mall at Ang Mo Kio Central, will be ready early next year, complete with an air-conditioned bus interchange and an underground pass to the nearby MRT station.
Labour chief Lim Boon Heng was at the topping out ceremony, which is to symbolically give the finishing touches to a building.
The new hub will house NTUC's various cooperatives like supermarket chain NTUC Fairprice, its insurance arm NTUC Income, its childcare cooperative, and its recreational NTUC Club - all under one roof.
The fourth floor is expected to be transformed into an integrated entertainment centre, with an eight-screen cineplex.
Some 800,000 residents live around the area in Ang Mo Kio, Bishan, Hougang, Serangoon and Toa Payoh.
The new mall is expected to add vibrancy to the town centre and the businesses there.
It is estimated to have cost more than $300 million to develop. - CNA/so
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/palmnews/singaporelocalnews/view/237915/1/.html
Cliff October 27th, 2006, 12:07 PM I saw the billboard, tomorrow's the topping out ceremony of "AMK Hub"...
babystan03 October 27th, 2006, 12:22 PM From Arup website....:yes:
Ang Mo Kio Hub Mall, Singapore
http://www.arup.com/IMAGEBANK/image8223.jpg
With six levels of retail and entertainment, the S$340M Ang Mo Kio Hub Mall is set to become Singapore’s largest neighbourhood mall.
Offering significant cost savings, Arup’s fire strategy increases flexibility of usage without affecting occupant safety. A reduction in the number and width of staircases has rationalised the building’s escape systems, enlarging its net leasable area and improving rental returns.
Without Arup’s fire engineering, the architect’s vision for large, polygonal atrium voids could not have been realised. The architectural intent was for an irregular atrium layout where the void widens with increasing levels.
By rationalising smoke control systems, Arup has enlarged the size of the smoke zone, making it much larger than the prescriptive approach. This reduces the requirement for smoke curtains, which are problematic from an aesthetic and maintenance point of view.
Arup assessed the inherent properties of the supporting steel beams and demonstrated that they will have sufficient stability in fire conditions. This allowed the majority of the beams to be constructed without additional fire protection. This innovative solution is uncommon in Singapore, and reduces upfront labour and material costs, construction time and ongoing maintenance requirements.
Arup separated the bus interchange and concourse waiting area with a window drencher system instead of conventional fire shutters. The benefit of using a window drencher system is that it is cost effective and easy to maintain. This is the first time in Singapore that a drencher system has been used for this purpose.
http://www.arup.com/singapore/project.cfm?pageid=8593
babystan03 October 27th, 2006, 02:32 PM 27 Oct 2006
Ang Mo Kio to get new mall next year
An eight-screen cineplex, a hypermarket and more than 250 shops lie in store for Ang Mo Kio residents at the new AMK Hub.
The seven-level retail mall will be completed in the first quarter of 2007.
At the topping-out ceremony, labour chief Lim Boon Heng said the development of AMK Hub was in line with the labour movement's vision of working together to serve all workers.
This is because the mall won't just provide food, shopping and entertainment but also services such as childcare, financial planning and elder care.
Shoppers can carry out their banking and insurance transactions at a business centre.
There will be a lounge for senior citizens to meet and socialise and a pharmacy providing general medicines and patient counselling.
And while parents are busy shopping, they can leave their kids at a nursery within the mall.
The building structure of the mall is complete and work on its facade is underway.
A new fully air-conditioned bus interchange that will be connected to the mall is also expected to open early next year.
Copyright © 2006 MediaCorp Radio New Media Development
Singapor3 October 27th, 2006, 02:59 PM A new fully air-conditioned bus interchange that will be connected to the mall is also expected to open early next year
Singapore's second air-conditioned bus interchange??
babystan03 October 27th, 2006, 03:01 PM Singapore's second air-conditioned bus interchange??
Nope.....:)
Should be 3rd....after Toa Payoh and Sengkang.....:yes:
shao_ye October 27th, 2006, 03:58 PM ^^ that one at sengkang is horrible... dark and very hot for the bus parking area...
redstone October 27th, 2006, 03:59 PM Ya agreed, Sengkang's horrible...
ryantey October 27th, 2006, 05:37 PM I think Bedok Bus Interchange also needs to be refurbished. It looks so old. I hopr that Bedok Bus Interchange will become an air-con bus interchange station too. LOL.
ddes October 27th, 2006, 06:54 PM I agree. Bedok needs to get a new interchange, the place is so 1980s..
Sengkang interchange is terrible. The place is so make-shift and waiting for buses always entails a sniff of carbon monoxide.
littlearea October 28th, 2006, 02:40 AM But the problem is bedok do not have a temporary site when construction of the new bus interchange.
babystan03 October 28th, 2006, 03:53 AM Aiyo....they really know how to exaggerate (mega mall)....:lol:
Oct 28, 2006
Ang Mo Kio mega mall ready soon
ANG Mo Kio is about four months away from having a new mega mall, a development seen to bring a new buzz to one of Singapore's oldest HDB estates.
Billed as a one-stop retail and entertainment experience, the four-storey AMK Hub with 262 shops will also be a focal point for a range of services provided by National Trades Union Congress (NTUC) cooperatives.
These include a 2,000-sq-ft lounge where the elderly can meet in air-conditioned comfort; a 4,400-sq-ft childcare centre; and an NTUC Club entertainment centre with an eight-screen cineplex.
It will also house FairPrice's first-ever hypermarket and have a mega pharmacy run by NTUC Healthcare, the labour movement's health-care arm
At least 90 per cent of floor space in the $340 million mall has already been taken up by the NTUC cooperatives and stores ranging from fashion and apparel outlets to banks, cafes and eateries.
The 19.3ha complex will also be connected to an air-conditioned bus interchange, slated for completion early next year, and an underpass to Ang Mo Kio MRT station.
Speaking at the mall's
topping-off ceremony yesterday NTUC secretary-general Lim Boon Heng said its completion - hopefully in time for Chinese New Year - will complement the rejuvenation of Ang Mo Kio town centre.
'By having a seamless linkage with the upcoming air-conditioned bus interchange and the underpass to Ang Mo Kio MRT station, the one-stop AMK Hub will also provide greater convenience and accessibility to the contemporary family needs of residents within and beyond Ang Mo Kio,' he said.
Mr Lim believes that with a catchment of some 780,000 residents in Ang Mo Kio and nearby estates in Bishan, Hougang, Serangoon and Toa Payoh, the mall will become a 'buzzing focal point' for young and old alike.
It was a view shared by Mr Seng Han Thong, MP for Yio Chu Kang, who is NTUC assistant secretary-general.
'We foresee that with the completion of AMK Hub, the town centre will be even more vibrant,' he said.
'The mall will attract shoppers from not just Ang Mo Kio, but other parts of Singapore as well.'
Mr Lim also saw the mall's development as reflecting what NTUC spelt out in its Labour Movement 2011 vision for the next five years to serve workers at all levels - from low-income contract workers to executives.
'The AMK Hub development is in line with an exciting phase for the labour movement,' said Mr Lim, who is also Minister in the Prime Minister's Office.
Construction of the mall began last year, and when it opens next year it is expected to generate 1,500 jobs.
Dr Chua Yang Liang, head of research at property consultancy Jones Lang LaSalle's office here, said the mall will benefit from the large human traffic flow.
'Such a development will complement the surrounding retail landscape, providing residents and businesses alike with a wider choice of retail opportunities,' he said.
However, Mr Goh Ang Jee who heads an association of neighbourhood shops was less certain.
'We are only small-scale retailers, so it'll be very difficult to compete against such a new large-scale and air-
conditioned mall,' said Mr Goh, who runs a furniture shop in the area.
To cope with the competition, he plans to get shop owners to put their goods on sale more often, and organise stage activities during festive seasons to draw more shoppers.
Ultimately, consumers such as administration officer Jessie Quek, 49, are the ones who stand to benefit.
'We have waited so long for this,' said Madam Quek, who lives a five-minute walk away from the mall. 'Ang Mo Kio Central used to be filled with activity until the old bus interchange was demolished some years ago.'
'We are more than happy to have the bustle back.'
Copyright © 2006 Singapore Press Holdings. All rights reserved.
Singapor3 October 28th, 2006, 04:23 AM Huh? 4,6 or 7 storeys?
Pengui October 28th, 2006, 09:54 AM I saw the billboard, tomorrow's the topping out ceremony of "AMK Hub"...
This is the billboard Cliff was referring to.
Pics are from 27th October.
http://ssc.singapenguin.net/06/061027_amkhub01.jpg
http://ssc.singapenguin.net/06/061027_amkhub02.jpg
ignoramus October 28th, 2006, 12:58 PM Huh? 4,6 or 7 storeys?
Wow I didn't notice the discrepancy. I think they meant 7 floors in total 4 above ground and 3 basement floors. 6 floors of retail space within that 7 floors will be used for retail and one floor for a carpark. Right???
^tamago^ October 29th, 2006, 06:44 PM But the problem is bedok do not have a temporary site when construction of the new bus interchange.
maybe have to wait for SERS. :)
littlearea October 30th, 2006, 09:43 AM maybe have to wait for SERS. :)
I guess before the suitable temporary site is near blk 215, but now is built for SERS flats.
Singapor3 October 30th, 2006, 03:09 PM what is SERS?
Mr.ASAP October 30th, 2006, 03:19 PM what is SERS?
Selective En Bloc Redevelopment Scheme(or system? most probably scheme)
government agency of course ;)
^tamago^ November 9th, 2006, 07:54 PM 9th November 2006
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/1897/amkhubbw6.jpg
RafflesCity November 10th, 2006, 02:44 AM thats fast!
not quite sure I like the colours though...maybe it'll look more trendy at night
Singapor3 November 10th, 2006, 03:48 AM wahh fast, nice
^tamago^ November 10th, 2006, 03:57 AM but the backside isn't quite done yet.... :)
10 November 2006
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/41/dsc0024rd1.jpg
redstone November 10th, 2006, 09:26 AM 10th November 2006
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/1897/amkhubbw6.jpg
The cube is so intimidating
^tamago^ November 10th, 2006, 10:45 AM The cube is so intimidating
okie lah, but it sure is a dull colour scheme. :(
Pengui November 11th, 2006, 04:22 AM I think those colors won't stay. More like protecting stickers on the glass ;-)
babystan03 November 11th, 2006, 05:09 PM Taken from a bus today....:yes:
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9522/dscf0048qi9.jpg
CT November 11th, 2006, 10:04 PM It's hard to take a pic with a phone while driving :ohno: , this was taken about 2 weeks ago at the cross junction. Sorry, not very nice pic...you can probably see the reflection of my tissue box on the deck.
http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/8824/amkhubkb8.jpg
Pengui November 13th, 2006, 12:39 PM ^^ Haha ! Cross safely, it says... Also for drivers taking pics as they drive through the intersection, heh ? :-p
^tamago^ December 15th, 2006, 02:33 PM 15 December 2006
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http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/4233/dsc0022ia3.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6747/dsc0029gm9.jpg
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/6803/dsc0030xb6.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/282/dsc0031jc4.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1442/dsc0032qn4.jpg
babystan03 December 15th, 2006, 03:03 PM ^ Wow....seems ready......:eek:
Singapor3 December 15th, 2006, 03:14 PM nice entrance =0
Cliff December 16th, 2006, 03:55 AM The red is alittle weird...
shao_ye December 16th, 2006, 05:03 AM ^^ quite nice what... got red lor... :lol:
JoSin December 16th, 2006, 06:21 AM nice entrance =0
Yeh nice one. But too high. not so convenient for wheel-chair bound ppl...
glitz_boy December 16th, 2006, 06:59 AM wow quite nice lei .... good for AMK
RafflesCity December 16th, 2006, 10:59 AM I like those tropical palms...hope for a large outdoor events space in the design
Singapor3 December 16th, 2006, 11:05 AM Yeh nice one. But too high. not so convenient for wheel-chair bound ppl...
hmm? maybe there's a machine to bring those wheel-chair up?
littlearea December 29th, 2006, 03:05 AM AMK NTUC Fairprice opens yesterday.:)
ignoramus December 29th, 2006, 05:28 PM I wonder how people access the hypermart on B2. The main entrance doesnt seem to be ready, neither are any of the other floors.
The Bus Interchange Glass Berth Doors can be seen already, as well as the bare interiors...
^tamago^ December 30th, 2006, 12:30 PM access is via Big Mac Centre. heard it's very crowded since opening day, so will be giving it a miss.
littlearea December 30th, 2006, 12:44 PM Can change the thread title to AMK HUB.:?
RafflesCity December 30th, 2006, 12:47 PM ok changed :)
Kit December 30th, 2006, 01:22 PM The main entrance actually brings you to the upper mezzanine floor which is not open to the public yet. Only entrances with direct access to the lower mezzanine floor, which in turn leads to the basement is open to public. There are still a lot of areas which are still cordoned off to the public. As far as I know, only the lower levels has obtained TOP.
redstone December 30th, 2006, 03:14 PM Why is the basement at half below ground? This kind of layout not very ideal, kinda like Centrepoint.
Kit December 30th, 2006, 03:34 PM The basement is completely below ground level.
ddes January 1st, 2007, 07:26 PM I don't understand. AMK Hub although is nearing completion, is not ready for shoppers. Having NTUC Fairprice Xtra, BreadTalk, Bengawan Solo, Bossini, 2 other clothes shops and a drugs store(aka Watsons, Guardian) does not seem to make much economical sense.
By the way, I took a walk in Fairprice Xtra and it was HUUGEEE. Crowded nevertheless, even at 10pm on 1 Jan.
AMK Hub is quite a huge shopping mall actually. Judging by walking down B1 to B2, although the design is abit strange. Go and see for yourselves, you'll know what I mean. Some corridors are very very wide while others are incredibly narrow, aka where Bossini is.
Kit January 2nd, 2007, 03:46 PM I don't understand. AMK Hub although is nearing completion, is not ready for shoppers. Having NTUC Fairprice Xtra, BreadTalk, Bengawan Solo, Bossini, 2 other clothes shops and a drugs store(aka Watsons, Guardian) does not seem to make much economical sense.
You'd understand the sense behind it a little better if you get an idea what is going on, especially for NTUC Xtra.
This mall was supposed to be open completely at the beginning of the year. The shops, especially the anchor tenants will have their plans drawn up much earlier. These plans include the internal layout planning, actual renovation works, purchasing of goods and working towards an opening date.
These people would have ordered their goods to be delivered on site months before, including perishables which they can't simply cancel or return the order. Nobody knows that the mall will be late and since they can't return the orders, everybody will work towards the opening dateline by hook or by crook even though the rest of the mall is not ready. They open the mall part by part in accordance to priority. Nobody wants a supermarket load of perishables to perish. Contrary to what you think, it makes a lot of economical sense. Look at the crowd, ready or not, those people flocked to the supermarket the day it opened. I was there.
Pengui January 7th, 2007, 05:12 AM Been there twice already since this is replacing a temporary Fairprice that was closer to my place, just next to Grandeur 8 condo. Access to the hypermart is not very convenient at the moment. The hypermart is quite big with a large range of products. Fresh products also seem to be of better quality than at your usual NTUC supermarket, although maybe that's just because it's just opened and they want to lure people ;-)
The shopping mall is actually quite large, much larger than it looks from outside since the two basement floors are really huge.
A Cathay cinema is slatted to open there in May \o/
I wonder what will happen to Eng Wah at the Jubilee Mall next door... I don't think it can compete.
Kit January 7th, 2007, 05:27 AM Fresh products also seem to be of better quality than at your usual NTUC supermarket, although maybe that's just because it's just opened and they want to lure people ;-)
Its quite a known fact that NTUC categorises its supermarkets. Some get better stuff than the others. This being the flagship hypermarket, should be getting the good stuff.
Pengui January 7th, 2007, 06:27 AM Ha... Twas not a known fact to me... Cool ^ ^
CT January 15th, 2007, 08:59 PM Think it's got nothing to do with the perishables and everything to do with the fact that NTUC is 1 of the develoers. It only makes a lot of economical sense to start business when it's ready.
Something's wrong with the carpark structure, the corner next to the travellator leading to NTUC is a dead end. I saw many cars stuck at the corner, not able to reverse...
Many inconsiderate drivers are also making illegal U-turns to get into the entrance of the hub. Sigh...think LTA should do something about this...
Kit January 15th, 2007, 09:02 PM Think it's got nothing to do with the perishables and everything to do with the fact that NTUC is 1 of the develoers. It only makes a lot of economical sense to start business when it's ready.
Wasn't that what I said??? To start business as soon as they possibly can.
tahoo January 16th, 2007, 01:55 AM For me, I can't wait for the opening of AMK Hub. I stay in AMK for the last 25++ year. Since the demolish of the old NTUC Fairprice and Oriental Emporium, biz in AMK and the resident suffer a lot.
With the new AMK Hub, it spice up and revive life back to the "New" central. For so long I have not seen crowd at AMK central, and I look forward to enjoy the crowd and atmosphere during the Chinese New Year period.
CT January 16th, 2007, 01:53 PM Wasn't that what I said??? To start business as soon as they possibly can.
I disagree it has anything to do with the perishables and it has more to do with them being the developer ie. political reasons la.
Yes @tahoo, the mall is long overdue...and while we are still waiting for it to be ready, it remains an understatement.
Kit January 16th, 2007, 02:15 PM If it was opened for the reasons you claimed, then why aren't NTUC Income, NTUC Childcare and Seniorcare in that same particular building opened at the same time?
CT January 16th, 2007, 02:23 PM If it was opened for the reasons you claimed, then why aren't NTUC Income, NTUC Childcare and Seniorcare in that same particular building opened at the same time?
relax @kit, I can't answer for NTUC, u shud ask them. But like you already mentioned, what we know is, they're 1 of the developers and can decide what they want to start first.
Cliff January 19th, 2007, 02:43 AM I went there, quite nice, alot of stairs though, strange for a town with an aging population.
redstone January 19th, 2007, 03:06 PM Just saw the name "AMK HUB" placed on the mall. It looks so.... child-like. :(
^tamago^ January 19th, 2007, 08:45 PM Actually I believe the reason for the rush to open the new hypermarket is because the lease on the temporary site is going to be due soon. :yes:
RafflesCity January 19th, 2007, 09:12 PM Is it fully opened already?
Pengui January 20th, 2007, 06:02 AM B1 and B2 are fully opened and about 70% occupied maybe.
The underpass to the MRT station is fitted with escalators and signage already and probably due to open soon.
The rest of the mall is still vacant with fitting works going on.
CT January 21st, 2007, 03:36 AM Actually I believe the reason for the rush to open the new hypermarket is because the lease on the temporary site is going to be due soon. :yes:
Yes, and maybe the building was agreed contractually to open earlier? I'm sure some other tenants would have their lease expired elsewhere too...but they may not have the call or the size to justify an exclusive earlier opening than the rest. Whether is it because of the size of the hypermart or because of it's developer status, it's great to have a hypermart sooner in AMK :cheers:
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